X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:25:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mz_mail@pop.gmx.de Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:10:04 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: OSC 1-Shape Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >So, maybe the problem is not the virus, but that you have a very sharp ear! Thanks for the compliment and your explanation (the answer was quite fast, indeed), but I compared the sound to that one of OSC 2. I actually initialised all patches yesterday, and now the problem is gone. Interesting thing. Please, ACCESS, do something about these corrupt files that turn up after some time. Or do I just have to change the internal battery? Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 23:22:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: Subject: Re: ?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:20:44 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? > >Christoph >access That would be *GREAT*.. I can't imagine anyone not wanting this option. daniel cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 00:08:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:46:48 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ?? vocoder? (No) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com <<<>>> <> Not another vocoder, please! If I want to vocode, I already have the overwhelming decision of choosing between my Electro Harmonix vocoder, Doepfer Modular vocoder, Korg DVP-1 vocoder, Nord Modular, Roland JP-8080, Roland SE-70 or Behringer Virtualizer. Don't make my life anymore confusing. Sorry. I was only thinking of myself. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 00:41:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 00:38:01 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ?? Vocoder ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, This is a GREAT idea !!! I'd love to take this even further ! Here's an idea for the Virus OS 2.0: Make a vocoder that can work in multi mode (I mean next to other instrument functions). This vocoder could for example take 12 bands. Then make a second vocoder mode, in which you can only use the vocoder (and no other instrument channels). This second mode should be a vocoder of 24 channels. If it's possible to make a 24-band vocoder together with the rest of the channels, then of course, this would be even nicer. I don't know how much DSP power this takes though... Ciao, joeri Rick Reyes wrote: > >* From Rick Reyes > >I personally would love a vocoder. Especially a good one. Even if it takes the full power, it would be great as a sample source. > >I too agree, there are other features that are very important. I really, really, really, need all routings of LFO 1&2 available from either LFO. I need to be able to modulate the filter from both LFOs. I like to program with the filters in parallel or split mode. This type of programming begs for seperate filter control from 2 LFOs... > >Rick > >---lowlifeform wrote: >> >>* From lowlifeform >> >>Let's be honest, we don't need a vocoder really, do we. What we NEED >has been mentioned several times before (3rd Envelope, RM, modulation of LFO freq., modulation matrix etc. etc.) >> >> >>But a vocoder would be quite nice for the new millenium. >> >> >>Don't kick me for this. Let's just get our priorities right. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 00:57:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: ?? Date: Tue, 1 Dec 98 00:55:52 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer >* From "Terminal Bliss" > >>Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? >> >>Christoph >>access > > >That would be *GREAT*.. I can't imagine anyone not wanting this option. Yes - great! Also a Lexicon like Reverb would be nice! Can you really realise a vocoder with the Virus?? Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 01:15:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 01:19:18 +0100 From: Bertrand Blais Organization: MA'o To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: unsuscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bertrand Blais Thank you access for the support Thank you K9 for your work The virus is a really good machine The list is getting so ridiculous that i can't go on. The more you speak the less you act....May the sound be with you ! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 01:33:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: ?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:39:04 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness And while you're at, you could change the name to the Virius and include a free Radio-Shack microphone and Casio keyboard controller. -----Original Message----- From: Raymund Beyer [mailto:brainray@real-net.de] Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 3:56 PM To: Access List Subject: Re: ?? * From Raymund Beyer >* From "Terminal Bliss" > >>Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? >> >>Christoph >>access > > >That would be *GREAT*.. I can't imagine anyone not wanting this option. Yes - great! Also a Lexicon like Reverb would be nice! Can you really realise a vocoder with the Virus?? Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de                     http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2                ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 02:56:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: [virus list] - v1.57 - v1.58? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:56:06 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >* From MailingGoa@aol.com Hehe...I know why you have a Virus ;-) 1.58 fixes some bugs...now it doesn't ask you to reload the factory sounds all the time. Also there is a chord arpeggiator which eats a lot of polyphony but sounds super-fat (thank you Access). I came from v1.54 and 1.58 has cured an annoying clicking sound from Virus when it should be silent and it makes the external input work fine (thank you again Access). Filtering external sounds through the virus can be very...interesting... By the way I just found a PC shareware program called Coagula (from www.passagen.se I think) which makes weird full-spectrum metallic sounds using additive synthesis techniques (you can get other sounds out of it too) - you take a picture file and it turns it into a sound. It is pretty bizarre, and I mention it because the Virus filters do fantastic things to the sounds it produces because of the full-spectrum character of the thing. check it out. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 03:19:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:15:24 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: RE: [virus list] - v1.57 - v1.58? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >By the way I just found a PC shareware program called Coagula (from www.passagen.se I think) which makes weird full-spectrum metallic sounds using additive synthesis techniques (you can get other sounds out of it too) - you take a picture file and it turns it into a sound. It is pretty bizarre, and I mention it because the Virus filters do fantastic things to the sounds it produces because of the full-spectrum character of the thing. check it out. Wow, sounds like what I've been looking for the PC for the last year, since playing with MetaSynth on the Mac at NAMM last January. But, alas, I cannot find anything like it on www.passagen.se at all... got sorta diverted by those damned sexy Swedish models and their sports bra's though, that was pretty exciting! Anyway, got any real link to Coagula? My Swedish (yes, I speak a little Swedish) isn't good enough to navigate Passagen that well, and those damned sports bra ads just keep getting in the way. I want Coagula! :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 16:21:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 04:18:55 +0100 From: Marian Kubinec To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ?? vocoder? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness SAMOZREJME!!!! From Czech Republic YES WE need VOCODERX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 04:27:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Funny Noise... Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:27:22 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" I notice sometimes after I play the virus that it makes a small clicking sounds, like a resonant click or something when i am not touching it. This is better after 1.58, with 1.54 I used to get it ll the time. It is not a big problem now, but I am curious about what it is. Incideentally I have been crashing the Virus a few times while sequencing with cakewalk lately, although the osund is fine mostly. But if i begin patch editing while I am looping a melody sometimes the Virus seems confused. I will change a knob or something and then the value will keep changing as if the Virus were rereading its MIDI buffers? I have checked that there is no input coming from the computer. This is not a big problem either, but sometimes after I get a lot of weird stuff i just reboot the PC and the Virus to be sure. I cann't complain, because I got to work on 3 tracks in the last week and the 3rd one is good enough to start recording :D Thank you Access! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 04:27:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: [virus list] - v1.57 - v1.58? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:27:23 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >Wow, sounds like what I've been looking for the PC for the last year, since playing with MetaSynth on the Mac at NAMM last January. > >But, alas, I cannot find anything like it on www.passagen.se at all... got sorta diverted by those damned sexy Swedish models and their sports bra's though, that was pretty exciting! Sorry, it is at http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/coagula.htm Less powerful than Metasynth but right now it is free! My music partner and I lost 6 hours of sleep with it on Saturday night because we were having too much fun throwing fractal pictures at it. We will definitely try to record a track using some of these sounds. Enjoy! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 04:44:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:37:33 -0800 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Coagula Cc: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan [Moving this to the music-bar, since it has little to do with the Access Virus any more... but cc'ing the access-list in case anyone wants to know what happened to the thread... sub to music-bar if you're interested] At 07:27 PM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > >>* From Jay Vaughan >>Wow, sounds like what I've been looking for the PC for the last year, since playing with MetaSynth on the Mac at NAMM last January. But, alas, I cannot find anything like it on www.passagen.se at all... got sorta diverted by those damned sexy Swedish models and their sports bra's though, that was pretty exciting! > >Sorry, it is at http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/coagula.htm Less powerful than Metasynth but right now it is free! My music partner and I lost 6 hours of sleep with it on Saturday night because we were having too much fun throwing fractal pictures at it. We will definitely try to record a track using some of these sounds. Enjoy! Anig Browl Yeah - I found it in the time it took you to respond. Amazing tool, very close to MetaSynth in concept, if not in interface/capability. I've just spent about an hour messing with it ... very contagious and infections piece of software! I'm afraid I'll be here all night, or at least until I run out of pics to pipe through it... Still trying to get my head around it though. I'd like to understand it enough to where I could actually work out how to get a sound from mental concept to picture to .wav file... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 06:03:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:55:08 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Primal Scream ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:04:02 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Primal Scream ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Mon Nov 30 20:03:59 1998 >Received: from ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com (mta@ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com [24.2.9.66]) > by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01791 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:03:59 -0800 Received: from cr143197-a ([24.112.41.34]) by ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com >(Post.Office MTA v3.5 release 217 ID# 0-53853L0S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; >Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:00:08 -0800 >Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981201040014.0070d5fc@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com> X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:00:14 -0500 >To: access-list@teklab.com >From: Primal Scream Subject: MPC2000 /w Access Virus > >Ok, i have a couple of problems here: > >1) I heard that the Mpc won't load .mids biger than a certain ammount, i can't remeber exactly how big, but because of this i can't update my OS via the mpc, it there a way around it? > >2) If i stop one of my songs in the middle of an arrpeggiation, when i restart it it's COMPLETELY off, totally out of sync. If i was to start a song off with just an arpeggiation, it starts off wrong for about 1-2 seconds, then kicks in to be synced.. what's happening? how can i fix this? > >3) I can't load any patches i get. The mpc WILL load them, yet it does not seem to be transmitting to the virus, even though it's all set up properly. Any ideas? > >Anyone else using an mpc2000 with their virus? > >thanx, > >Eric > > j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 09:29:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:24:06 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: ?? vocoder? (No) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:46 PM +0100 on 30.11.1998 Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >Not another vocoder, please! If I want to vocode, I already have the overwhelming decision of choosing between my Electro Harmonix vocoder, Doepfer Modular vocoder, Korg DVP-1 vocoder, Nord Modular, Roland JP-8080, Roland SE-70 or Behringer Virtualizer. Don't make my life anymore confusing. sheesh you poor thing. Weren't you the guy with 15 Jupiters too? Where do you store all that gear? in your house? amazing...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 10:48:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 09:47:22 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Meet in Amsterdam, Coffee Shop ??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >or if somebody is in amsterdam accidentally, give me a sign! It'd be nice >to share thoughts, >experiences and coffee! That gave me an idea. European Virus Posse!!! Let's all meet in an Amsterdam coffee shop (this is important!!)in the new year (with our Viruses, of course), stay there and "relax" for a few hours and then go back to someone's studio for a mega-jam. Sounds like my idea of fun, especially if some virus girls come too . . . . ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 11:27:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:23:27 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Re: Meet in Amsterdam, Coffee Shop ??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S Okay! I just mailed with Sascha Kuwana too. Why don't we organise a meeting! Wait, I'll fix a homepage for it... URL is coming soon. Dimitri. At 09:47 1-12-98, you wrote: >* From lowlifeform > >>or if somebody is in amsterdam accidentally, give me a sign! It'd be nice >>to share thoughts, >>experiences and coffee! > >That gave me an idea. European Virus Posse!!! Let's all meet in an Amsterdam coffee shop (this is important!!)in the new year (with our Viruses, of course), stay there and "relax" for a few hours and then go back to someone's studio for a mega-jam. Sounds like my idea of fun, especially if some virus girls come too . . . . > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ------------------------------------------------ "In a world without walls and fences we don't need windows and gates." IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 14:54:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:56:24 +0100 From: Rutger van Dongen Subject: Re: Meet in Amsterdam, Coffee Shop ??? To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rutger van Dongen >>or if somebody is in amsterdam accidentally, >That gave me an idea. European Virus Posse!!! Let's all meet in an Amsterdam coffee shop (this is important!!)in the new year (with our Viruses, of course), stay there and "relax" for a few hours and then go back to someone's studio for a mega-jam. Sounds like my idea of fun, especially if some virus girls come too . . . . Yeah! Sounds great. I'm sure Í can get my Virus and Virus-girl with me to such a mega-gig!!! Ishi. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 12:07:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: Aux1 & 2 Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 03:06:18 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield Hello everyone, I am having difficulty understanding Aux1 and Aux2..... Are these *internal* signal routings that get picked up by an INPUT assigned to the appropriate Aux channel? It is then possible to refilter the signal and use the amp env.....? Is it possible to apply FM or detune the signal again a second time? thanks, David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 12:50:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:47:20 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Meeting of Virus Users in Amsterdam & European Virus Posse homepage! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S Hello! A you can see in the former mails, there exists an idea to have a european meeting in Amsterdam, and we call ourselves the European Virus Posse! More info on http://145/99/128/7/evp ! Come and take a look! Dimitri ------------------------------------------------ "In a world without walls and fences we don't need windows and gates." IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 13:17:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:08:32 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Meeting of Virus Users in Amsterdam & European Virus Posse homepage! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S >Hello! > >A you can see in the former mails, there exists an idea to have a european meeting in Amsterdam, and we call ourselves the European Virus Posse! > >More info on http://145/99/128/7/evp ! Dehhhh, I mean http://145.99.128.7/evp . ------------------------------------------------ "In a world without walls and fences we don't need windows and gates." IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 14:35:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 14:31:12 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: Aux1 & 2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner At 03:06 01.12.98 -0800, you wrote: >* From David Battenfield > >Hello everyone, >I am having difficulty understanding Aux1 and Aux2..... Are these *internal* signal routings that get picked up by an INPUT assigned to the appropriate Aux channel? Yes! When you set the value in Display-Page in the EDIT-Menu "INPUT Mode" to "Dynamic" or "Static", the Oscillator-Section IS SWITCHED OFF and instead of the "internal Sound" an *external* Sound will go through the filter. Remember: Instead of the >OSCILLATOR SECTION< - Signal ! When you set the value in DisplayPage "INPUT Select" to IN L..IN R the filtered signal is real *external*, but when you set it to AUX1 L ..AUX 2 R the signal is a loop back from the output of other parts, sending their sound to AUX. >It is then possible to refilter Yes! You can refilter the sound-signal from other parts, which are sended to AUX 1 L..AUX 2 R instead of OUT 1 L .. OUT 3 R. Remember the Page "OUPUT Select" for these parts (avaible in MultiSingle-EDIT-Mode) ! >the signal and use the amp env.....? Keep in mind, that you only can trigger the AmpEnv, when the INPUT Select is set to "Dynamic". Otherwise you cannot trigger the AmpEnvelope, beacuse it's "Static". >Is it possible to apply FM or detune >the signal again a second time? No, of course, because that's part of the >OSCILLATOR-SECTION< and this is switched off, when INPUT Mode is "Dynamic" or "Static" >thanks, You're welcome! >David Tip: Another AUX is a Audio-Cable from f.e. OUT 3 to EXT IN. Think about! Jörg Meißner access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 15:59:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Funny Noise... Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:05:08 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I get stuff like this all the time, even with 1.58. Certain knob tweaks that would be used live generate all kinds of scratchy sounds that shouldn't happen. I get noises like a dirty pot! I know this is supposed to be virtual analog, but this is ridiculous. Next thing you know the oscillators won't stay in tune. -----Original Message----- From: Anig Browl [mailto:eddy@anig-browl.org] Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 7:27 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Funny Noise... * From "Anig Browl" I notice sometimes after I play the virus that it makes a small clicking sounds, like a resonant click or something when i am not touching it. This is better after 1.58, with 1.54 I used to get it ll the time. It is not a big problem now, but I am curious about what it is. Incideentally I have been crashing the Virus a few times while sequencing with cakewalk lately, although the osund is fine mostly. But if i begin patch editing while I am looping a melody sometimes the Virus seems confused. I will change a knob or something and then the value will keep changing as if the Virus were rereading its MIDI buffers? I have checked that there is no input coming from the computer. This is not a big problem either, but sometimes after I get a lot of weird stuff i just reboot the PC and the Virus to be sure. I cann't complain, because I got to work on 3 tracks in the last week and the 3rd one is good enough to start recording :D Thank you Access! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 14:37:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:43:38 +0000 From: Meister Organization: Institute of Immunology To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Meet in Vienna ??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Meister Are there some virus users in Vienna or nearby ???? Mail me, maybe we can change ideas or organise a session with more virii. We could make some experiments in my little studio. das ich da nicht schon früher drauf gekommen bin? Sascha ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 16:46:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Aux1 & 2 Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:52:17 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Thanks for explanation Joerg, I also had a little difficulty understanding this. A graphical representation in the manual (or an online PDF document) would have been helpful in understanding this. For example, it was easier to understanding the filter routings when there was a picture. This would also be helpful for understanding the voice architecture as in what the routings are. A picture is worth 999.99 words. Ja oder nein? -----Original Message----- From: Joerg Meissner [mailto:Joerg.Meissner-2@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 5:31 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Aux1 & 2 * From Joerg Meissner At 03:06 01.12.98 -0800, you wrote: >* From David Battenfield > >Hello everyone, >I am having difficulty understanding Aux1 and Aux2..... Are these *internal* signal routings that get picked up by an INPUT assigned to the appropriate Aux channel? Yes! When you set the value in Display-Page in the EDIT-Menu "INPUT Mode" to "Dynamic" or "Static", the Oscillator-Section IS SWITCHED OFF and instead of the "internal Sound" an *external* Sound will go through the filter. Remember: Instead of the >OSCILLATOR SECTION< - Signal ! When you set the value in DisplayPage "INPUT Select" to IN L..IN R the filtered signal is real *external*, but when you set it to AUX1 L ..AUX 2 R the signal is a loop back from the output of other parts, sending their sound to AUX. >It is then possible to refilter Yes! You can refilter the sound-signal from other parts, which are sended to AUX 1 L..AUX 2 R instead of OUT 1 L .. OUT 3 R. Remember the Page "OUPUT Select" for these parts (avaible in MultiSingle-EDIT-Mode) ! >the signal and use the amp env.....? Keep in mind, that you only can trigger the AmpEnv, when the INPUT Select is set to "Dynamic". Otherwise you cannot trigger the AmpEnvelope, beacuse it's "Static". >Is it possible to apply FM or detune >the signal again a second time? No, of course, because that's part of the >OSCILLATOR-SECTION< and this is switched off, when INPUT Mode is "Dynamic" or "Static" >thanks, You're welcome! >David Tip: Another AUX is a Audio-Cable from f.e. OUT 3 to EXT IN. Think about! Jörg Meißner > access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 18:05:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:05:06 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: Coagula To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt where can I find this program without getting somewhere where I don't understand what's written on the screen? tnx... ---Jay Vaughan wrote: > >* From Jay Vaughan > >[Moving this to the music-bar, since it has little to do with the Access >Virus any more... but cc'ing the access-list in case anyone wants to know >what happened to the thread... sub to music-bar if you're interested] > >At 07:27 PM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >>* From "Anig Browl" >> >>>* From Jay Vaughan >>>Wow, sounds like what I've been looking for the PC for the last year, since playing with MetaSynth on the Mac at NAMM last January. But, alas, I cannot find anything like it on www.passagen.se at all... got >>>sorta diverted by those damned sexy Swedish models and their sports bra's >>>though, that was pretty exciting! >> >>Sorry, it is at http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/coagula.htm Less powerful than Metasynth but right now it is free! My music partner and >>I lost 6 hours of sleep with it on Saturday night because we were having too >>much fun throwing fractal pictures at it. We will definitely try to record a >>track using some of these sounds. Enjoy! Anig Browl > > >Yeah - I found it in the time it took you to respond. Amazing tool, very >close to MetaSynth in concept, if not in interface/capability. > >I've just spent about an hour messing with it ... very contagious and infections piece of software! I'm afraid I'll be here all night, or at >least until I run out of pics to pipe through it... > >Still trying to get my head around it though. I'd like to understand it >enough to where I could actually work out how to get a sound from mental >concept to picture to .wav file... > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 18:15:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: BHamilton@collectech.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:26:33 +0000 Subject: RE: ?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >I'm sure not going to devote this much of my setup for this type of effect. I have a Roland RSP-550 which does a reasonable job and only cost me $275 used. The BOSS SE-50 and SE-70 are also cheap ways to go. I'd rather see more modulation capability. > Yes please to more modulation capabilities but also yes please to a vocoder since I'm skint and can't afford even the cheap options a few people on the list are saying would be better to own rather than having one in the Virus. Christoph is offering us one for free (or at least it sounds like he is). Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 19:53:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: "(ListServ) Access Virus" Subject: RE: ?? Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:59:04 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. That's part of what this forum is for. And I suppose if the Virus can EVENTUALLY do a decent job of vocoding it would be great. However, I believe, like LowLife, that there are higher priorities. There still are a number of functional problems present in the OS as well as some key synth options (such as LFO/ENV power) lacking that I feel take priority. I currently have two effects units capable of vocoding, the DP/4+ and an RSP-550. I know that each of these boxes, while quite powerful, have to use up all of their processing power to do this one job. In the case of the DP/4+ it has 4 separate chips. Admittedly, these boxes have yesterday's DSP chips, but it still says something about the digital power required to vocode. As I said before, the Kurzweil K2500 is (unofficially) capable of vocoding but takes up the whole DSP engine. It's normally a 48 voice synth with up to 192 oscillators. Possibly, if and when Kurzweil ever release this feature, it will be optimized to use less of the engine. I guess I figure that if a feature, such as vocoding, is essential to your music, you will purchase a device capable of doing this task. There are plenty of cheap options. The Behringer Virtualizer list price is only about $200 brand new. To me the Virus is more valuable as a synth. If the trade-off of using vocoding on the Virus is 2-4 voices, it seems fair, but more than that seems to be a waste. My rig is oriented toward live performance where I have enough polyphony to cover all parts simultaneously. Of course, others are more oriented toward multi-track recording where they can make multiple passes. I think the way that Christoph phrased the question, made it sound as though vocoding was just about done and would be released anyway (and therefore not a real question). This is just my impression. I think there's tremendous pressure for synth mfgs to keep up with Joneses (or Rolands and Kurzweils, for that matter). If that's the case, and Christoph was not really surveying for opinions, then this whole discussion has been just a lot of hot gas. -----Original Message----- From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk [mailto:S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 10:27 AM To: BHamilton@collectech.com; access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: ?? >I'm sure not going to devote this much of my setup for this type of effect. I have a Roland RSP-550 which does a reasonable job and only cost me $275 used. The BOSS SE-50 and SE-70 are also cheap ways to go. I'd rather see more modulation capability. > Yes please to more modulation capabilities but also yes please to a vocoder since I'm skint and can't afford even the cheap options a few people on the list are saying would be better to own rather than having one in the Virus. Christoph is offering us one for free (or at least it sounds like he is). Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth. Steve (n-tropic) X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 20:08:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "yuppieflusuite" To: "virus access mailing list" Subject: unsuscribe Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:11:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness unsuscribe. -Desperate times, same measures- yuppieflusuite@iol.it yuppie flu home www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Balcony/3155/index.htm X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 21:33:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Re: Syx Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:39:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" Hi, Thanks Dimitri, can you please E-mail it to: D_Tikovoi@classic.msn.com Cheers Dimitri II -----Original Message----- From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Date: lundi 30 novembre 1998 21:53 Subject: Re: Syx >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >I suddenly realise that my old programme I use for dumps without annoying sequencers, MDF, uses the SYX format. Shal I send you it by mail? It's 27Kbyte zipped, and i wrote two simple batch files for it, quite unnecesary, because the programm itself is terribly simple. > >MDF.EXE FILE.SYX dumps MIDI >MDF.EXE NEWFILE.SYX waits for incoming MIDI sys-ex. > >Dimitri. > >At 11:48 27-11-98 -0000, you wrote: >>Hi, "" but how am I supose to read or open this files ? I am working >>on PC using Cubase Audio XT. Thanx a lot for the module driver it looks fab ! Sayonara Dimitri II > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 20:49:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "seb:h" To: Subject: Re: Coagula Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:48:51 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "seb:h" correct link is: http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Coagula.htm (it has to be a capital C) Sebh -----Original Message----- From: Valentijn Steenhoudt To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 1998 18:31 Subject: Re: Coagula >* From Valentijn Steenhoudt > > >where can I find this program without getting somewhere where I don't >understand what's written on the screen? > >tnx... > >- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 21:04:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:59:00 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: RE: ?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness However, I believe, like LowLife, that there are higher priorities. There still are a number of functional problems present in the OS as well as some key synth options (such as LFO/ENV power) lacking that I feel take priority. I currently have two effects units capable of vocoding, the DP/4+ and an RSP-550. I know that each of these boxes, while quite powerful, have to use up all of their processing power to do this one job. In the case of the DP/4+ it has 4 separate chips. Admittedly, these boxes have yesterday's DSP chips, but it still says something about the digital power required to vocode. As I said before, the Kurzweil K2500 is (unofficially) capable of vocoding but takes up the whole DSP engine. It's normally a 48 voice synth with up to 192 oscillators. Possibly, if and when Kurzweil ever release this feature, it will be optimized to use less of the engine.  Perhaps the reason that these boxes are using the 'entire DSP' for vocoding is not so much that it requires all that DSP power, but that the mfr hasn't figured out a way to integrate this feature with the others the box can do. In the case of the Virus, if you could set up on of the external voice routings to vocode (in other words, make vocoding a 'filter type'), while using the other 12 voices, then that would be ideal. I don't think vocoding algorithms take *all that* much DSP power - sure, some of the more complex ones are very DSP intensive. But I'll bet that the DSP in the Virus is more than capable of doing a decent vocoder algorithm as well as maintaining it's voice capabilities... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor]X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 21:32:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 21:28:19 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Meet in Vienna ??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht Jaja. Günther Albrecht Reismannhof 14/13 1120 Wien 817 98 53 weiters: Clemens.Haipl@blackbox.at (=Clemens Haipl, auch aus Wien) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 21:49:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: why not! Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:52:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" Blackstone Hamilton said: >I guess I figure that if a feature, such as vocoding, is essential to your music, >you will purchase a device capable of doing this task. There are plenty of cheap >options. The Behringer Virtualizer list price is only about $200 brand new. >To me the Virus is more valuable as a synth. If the trade-off of using vocoding >on the Virus is 2-4 voices, it seems fair, but more than that seems to be a waste. >My rig is oriented toward live performance where I have enough polyphony to cover >all parts simultaneously. Of course, others are more oriented toward multi-track >recording where they can make multiple passes. I just don't see the problem with implementing a vocoder function into the Virus! If you don't want to use it, then don't...you won't run out of voices then. The more functions, the better IMO. I have to agree that first the 'viruses' have to be out of the Virus :-) And do you really think Christoph haven't done this vocoder function already on a Virus, why do you think he asks it! I think he has already done it and that it worked! Let's have some kraftwerkers coming out of the redbox! :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 22:18:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: why not! Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:24:26 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness You can make it sound really Kraftwerky if you plug a turntable into the Inputs and throw on a copy of Computer World. It would even have that neato vynil popping sound. -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Engels [mailto:fsp@wxs.nl] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 12:52 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: why not! * From "Marcel Engels" Blackstone Hamilton said: >I guess I figure that if a feature, such as vocoding, is essential to your music, >you will purchase a device capable of doing this task. There are plenty of cheap >options. The Behringer Virtualizer list price is only about $200 brand new. >To me the Virus is more valuable as a synth. If the trade-off of using vocoding >on the Virus is 2-4 voices, it seems fair, but more than that seems to be a waste. >My rig is oriented toward live performance where I have enough polyphony to cover >all parts simultaneously. Of course, others are more oriented toward multi-track >recording where they can make multiple passes. I just don't see the problem with implementing a vocoder function into the Virus! If you don't want to use it, then don't...you won't run out of voices then. The more functions, the better IMO. I have to agree that first the 'viruses' have to be out of the Virus :-) And do you really think Christoph haven't done this vocoder function already on a Virus, why do you think he asks it! I think he has already done it and that it worked! Let's have some kraftwerkers coming out of the redbox! :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 22:36:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MailingGoa@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:33:01 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: WHERE DO YOU FIND CUBASE DEMO! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MailingGoa@aol.com Hi all, I had the Cubase Demo to do upgrades on my synths, but this morning, it decided to do the AOL "illegal operation" thing, so every time I try to activate the sequencer, it won't let me. Went looking at WWW.STEINBERG.DE and wasn't finding the free demo. Where have I missed this? I'm buggin' out, so help! michael ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 23:02:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:36:55 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: !**picNIC**! Subject: Re: Vocoder? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From !**picNIC**! >At 07:16 AM 11/30/98 EST, you wrote: >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >> >>Hi, >> >>Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? >> >>Christoph >>access Maaan, I just sold my Voco to get the money for my VIRUS, would be great to see that it is in there as well....!! Give it some Voco!!!!!!!!! THX! (-> this is real support, I love you, ACCESS!) ***NIC*** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 1 23:03:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:59:37 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Mark Pulver ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:43:39 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Mark Pulver ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Tue Dec 1 13:43:37 1998 >Received: from mw.3com.com (intergate.usr.com [149.112.20.3]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10171 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:43:36 -0800 Received: from mpulver by mw.3com.com (8.8.5/3.1.090690-US Robotics) id PAA08402; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:44:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981201154408.00ab0a30@midiwall.com> X-Sender: mpulver@midiwall.com >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:45:25 -0600 >To: MailingGoa@aol.com >From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: [AH] re: WHERE DO YOU FIND CUBASE DEMO! Cc: access-list@teklab.com >In-Reply-To: <8c560b4a.3664608d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >MailingGoa@aol.com (04:33 PM 12/1/98) wrote: > >>Went looking at WWW.STEINBERG.DE and wasn't finding the free demo. >> >>Where have I missed this? > > >http://www.steinberg.net/service/download.html > > >Mark > >_________________________________________________________________ Stuff: www.midiwall.com, AH Archives: www.midiwall.com/aharchives j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 05:26:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Mark Pulver ] Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:16:06 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" Can someone please tell me why I keep getting 3 to 5 bounces a day from Teklab with Jay Vaughns address and sig file at the bottom ? ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 01:19:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 01:16:44 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus + Vocoder... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, That's exactly what I've been thinking as well... do I smell Virus OS 2.0 here ? :-))) Bye, Joeri >And do you really think Christoph haven't done this vocoder function already >on >a Virus, why do you think he asks it! I think he has already done it and >that it >worked! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 02:17:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:12:57 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ?? vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Jay Vaughan) wrote: << I don't think vocoding algorithms take *all that* much DSP power - sure, some of the more complex ones are very DSP intensive. But I'll bet that the DSP in the Virus is more than capable of doing a decent vocoder algorithm as well as maintaining it's voice capabilities... >> Well on the JP-8080 when you use the vocoder, the voice polyphony drops from 10 to 8. On the Nord Modular the Vocoder module takes about 50 percent of the DSP power. So expect to give up something when using a vocoder on the Virus. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 04:54:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:18:56 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoders,Modulation Matrices etc...... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/1/98 5:52:24 PM, buddha@dial.pipex.com writes: >Btw, while the general subject of conversation revolves around what's missing from this little beast, it becomes easy to lose sight of just how much Access have got right in the design of the Virus. Therefore I would like to propose a thread on what particular features people like about the Virus. First and foremost is the SOUND. Someone with a great set of ears designed this thing. I grew up on Minimoogs and analog synths, and the Virus is the first digital synth that really nails the warmth, the depth, the "balls" and the tweakability (in terms of smooth response to turning knobs) of an analog synth. Well done! Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 05:17:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:23:23 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: Features Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield >First and foremost is the SOUND. Someone with a great set of ears designed this thing. I fully agree, the SOUND totally rocks!! But I have been playing with the INPUTS, and it is truly amazing to set up a gate-like sequence and run some vocal samples thru the VIRUS filters and sweep the cutoff!!!! Its a religious experience!! ;) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 05:46:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 20:42:34 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Mark Pulver ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 04:16 PM 12/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >* From "Paul D'Amato" > >Can someone please tell me why I keep getting 3 to 5 bounces a day from Teklab with Jay Vaughns address and sig file at the bottom ? > Send one of them to me. I'd like to see it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 00:42:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 23:40:48 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Vocoders,Modulation Matrices etc...... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha Hi Virusheads, Sure I could use a vocoder, if it was a good one. But as far as I'm concerned a modulation matrix would be a whole lot more useful. And while were on the subject, an envelope mode for lfo 3 would be nice, also a pan delay in the fx dept. would be a nice option and last but not least, a compare function. Whilst not being half as glamorous as a vocoder, it's inclusion would make using the Virus (in the studio) much smoother for me certainly. Btw, while the general subject of conversation revolves around what's missing from this little beast, it becomes easy to lose sight of just how much Access have got right in the design of the Virus. Therefore I would like to propose a thread on what particular features people like about the Virus. I for one love the dual filter idea. Also I'm getting some positively obese bass sounds using twin mode. I also love the inclusion of the time function of the envelopes, gives some pretty unique sounds........... Anyone else..... Bilbo Bagginz ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 09:40:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Vocoders,Modulation Matrices etc...... Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:39:12 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Marzzz@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: woensdag 2 december 1998 5:04 Onderwerp: Re: Vocoders,Modulation Matrices etc...... |* From Marzzz@aol.com | | |In a message dated 12/1/98 5:52:24 PM, buddha@dial.pipex.com writes: | |>Btw, while the general subject of conversation revolves around what's |>missing from this little beast, it becomes easy to lose sight of just |>how much Access have got right in the design of the Virus. Therefore I |>would like to propose a thread on what particular features people like |>about the Virus. | |First and foremost is the SOUND. Someone with a great set of ears designed |this thing. I grew up on Minimoogs and analog synths, and the Virus is the |first digital synth that really nails the warmth, the depth, the "balls" and |the tweakability (in terms of smooth response to turning knobs) of an analog |synth. | |Well done! | Yes, Access did a great shop. But don't sell your other stuff. A synth that can do all will never be made. Rob | | |Marshall |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 09:40:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: why not! Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:39:17 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness KRAFTWERK, I did a music poduction based on Pocket Calcullator of KRAFTWERK (out in Januari 1999). All the sounds I did program on the Virus. In the studio they where amazed by the result. Maybe a good idea for a soundset? Regards and the Vocoder is....., Rob -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Blackstone Hamilton <BHamilton@collectech.com> Aan: access-list@teklab.com <access-list@teklab.com> Datum: dinsdag 1 december 1998 22:40 Onderwerp: RE: why not! You can make it sound really Kraftwerky if you plug a turntable into the Inputs and throw on a copy of Computer World. It would even have that neato vynil popping sound. -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Engels [mailto:fsp@wxs.nl] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 12:52 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: why not! * From "Marcel Engels" Blackstone Hamilton said: >I guess I figure that if a feature, such as vocoding, is essential to your music, >you will purchase a device capable of doing this task. There are plenty of cheap >options. The Behringer Virtualizer list price is only about $200 brand new. >To me the Virus is more valuable as a synth. If the trade-off of using vocoding >on the Virus is 2-4 voices, it seems fair, but more than that seems to be a waste. >My rig is oriented toward live performance where I have enough polyphony to cover >all parts simultaneously. Of course, others are more oriented toward multi-track >recording where they can make multiple passes. I just don't see the problem with implementing a vocoder function into the Virus! If you don't want to use it, then don't...you won't run out of voices then. The more functions, the better IMO. I have to agree that first the 'viruses' have to be out of the Virus :-) And do you really think Christoph haven't done this vocoder function already on a Virus, why do you think he asks it! I think he has already done it and that it worked! Let's have some kraftwerkers coming out of the redbox! :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 09:52:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 09:49:18 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Re: Syx Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Okay! Here it is! At 19:39 1-12-98 -0000, you wrote: >* From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" > >Hi, > >Thanks Dimitri, can you please E-mail it to: > >D_Tikovoi@classic.msn.com > >Cheers >Dimitri II >-----Original Message----- >From: Dimitri Sijperda >To: access-list@teklab.com Date: lundi 30 novembre 1998 21:53 >Subject: Re: Syx > > >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>I suddenly realise that my old programme I use for dumps without annoying sequencers, MDF, uses the SYX format. Shal I send you it by mail? It's 27Kbyte zipped, and i wrote two simple batch files for it, quite unnecesary, because the programm itself is terribly simple. >> >>MDF.EXE FILE.SYX dumps MIDI >>MDF.EXE NEWFILE.SYX waits for incoming MIDI sys-ex. >> >>Dimitri. >> >>At 11:48 27-11-98 -0000, you wrote: >>>Hi, "" but how am I supose to read or open this files ? I am >working >>>on PC using Cubase Audio XT. Thanx a lot for the module driver it looks fab ! Sayonara Dimitri II >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:mdf.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (0000A007) ------------------------------------------------ "In a world without walls and fences we don't need windows and gates." IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nlX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 09:55:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: BHamilton@collectech.com Subject: Kraftwerk Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 08:50:34 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >You can make it sound really Kraftwerky if you plug a turntable into the Inputs and throw on a copy of Computer World. I would prefer to vocode my own drums :) Anyone heard "Nummern/Computerwelt2" (found it on SpaceNightVol4) PS: anyone knows if there is a tourDeFrance CD? With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 10:25:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 10:20:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Re: Syx Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S Oeps! Sorry, i thought i replied to a person, not to the entire list. Sorry for the 27K attachement. But now you have it, I can just as well tell you what it is: I't a simple DOS-programme to record and sned MIDI sysex dumps in .SYX format. Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ "In a world without walls and fences we don't need windows and gates." IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 13:16:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: digix@pop.internal.mindspring.com Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 07:12:37 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: LFO Subject: Programming Books?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From LFO This question is directed to Rob Papen and the like... Could you reccomend any good synth programming books which may apply to the Virus? I'm not really looking for the theoretical information (I already understand filtering, FM, waveshapes, etc.) but something more hands on in order to work on my programming chops. Any ideas? Have you considered writing a programming guide specifically for the Virus, Rob?? Thanks in advance! LFO ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 13:17:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: RE: ?? Date: Mit, 2 Dec 98 13:20:11 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile >Absender: Blackstone Hamilton, BHamilton@collectech.com weiter an: access-list@teklab.com >An: (ListServ) Access Virus, access-list@teklab.com > >As I said before, the Kurzweil K2500 is (unofficially) capable of vocoding but takes up the whole DSP engine. It's normally a 48 voice synth with up to 192 oscillators. Possibly, if and when Kurzweil ever release this feature, it will be optimized to use less of the engine. allthrough i really like the k2500 kicking 100% of the dsp power by emulating a vocoder sounds like a quiet loosy job for me. shame on that ings (if there is no other reason) >The Behringer Virtualizer list price is only about $200 brand new. To me the Virus is more valuable as a synth. If the trade-off of using vocoding on the Virus is 2-4 voices, it seems fair, but more than that seems to be a waste. My rig is oriented toward live performance where I have enough polyphony to cover all parts simultaneously. Of course, others are more oriented toward multi-track recording where they can make multiple passes. as long as you would be able to disable the vocoder nothing would change concerning you old songs. and by the way, imo the whole virtualizer exept the reverb sounds just horrible. i wouldn't spend money for a device that harms my whole sound. ok- this wouldn't be true if you use the virtualizer for a vocoder sound but i honestly don't know why so many people believe that a good quality fx processor is possible for $200 >I think the way that Christoph phrased the question, made it sound as though vocoding was just about done and would be released anyway (and therefore not a real question). This is just my impression. (...). If that's the case, and Christoph was >not reallysurveying for opinions, then this whole discussion has been just a lot of >hot gas. good point, very good point ;-) i think you're the first one who thinks about that option. regards, marc "..." (my girlfriend announced that she'll dump me if i don't drop me previous signature. available on request at stylepolice@usa.net babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 07:11:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 06:43:30 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: Re: Programming Books?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla >* From LFO > > >This question is directed to Rob Papen and the like... Could you reccomend any good synth programming books which may apply to the Virus? I'm not really looking for the theoretical information (I already understand filtering, FM, waveshapes, etc.) but something more hands on in order to work on my programming chops. Any ideas? Have you considered writing a programming guide specifically for the Virus, Rob?? Thanks in advance! > >LFO > >>>LFO 3 books come to mind one is called "Music,Sound and Sensation" i believe its by Fritz Wenkle (I may have the spelling of the last name wrong/and i think its available from the Mix Mag. bookshelf) A must read for the serios sound designer/programmmer, The next Jim Mitchmerhuesens "ARP 2600" manaull in my opinion the diffinitive guide to subtactive- synthesis teckniques. the thiird Carl Seashores :"the Psychology of Music" a gtreat resource on psychi-acoustics and the percetion of sound. Peace Doug M. ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ NORTH AMERICAN PRODUCT SUPPORT FOR WALDORF AND ACCESS PRODUCTS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 16:28:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Programming Books?? Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:28:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: LFO Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: woensdag 2 december 1998 13:34 Onderwerp: Programming Books?? |* From LFO | | |This question is directed to Rob Papen and the like... Could you reccomend |any good synth programming books which may apply to the Virus? I'm not |really looking for the theoretical information (I already understand |filtering, FM, waveshapes, etc.) but something more hands on in order to |work on my programming chops. Any ideas? Have you considered writing a |programming guide specifically for the Virus, Rob?? Thanks in advance! | Programming is a matter of talent and experience. I started 19 years ago with the Korg MS-20 (still a nice machine). So my advice: practice, experiment and use your ears. About writing a book for the Virus: I am better in making sounds and music. And all the time now I do need for my EMU EOS CD-ROM. Rob Papen |LFO | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 20:51:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 19:51:07 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Go To www.tsi-gmbh.de NOW!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Who knows what you might find. DO IT ! ! ! ! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:18:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Vocoder Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:05:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Hi, >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? Christoph >access ;-) If you can do a good one without having to swap the OS every time, yes please! Could be a good selling point. Otherwise it might just be too much trouble (for you and for the users). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 20:01:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Programming Books?? Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:07:03 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >>Programming is a matter of talent and experience. I started 19 years ago with the Korg MS-20 (still a nice machine). >> >>So my advice: practice, experiment and use your ears. About writing a book for the Virus: I am better in making sounds and music. >>And all the time now I do need for my EMU EOS CD-ROM. >> >>Rob Papen >> >> >> There are those who make history and those who write about it. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:18:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: What's right! Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:09:04 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>Btw, while the general subject of conversation revolves around what's missing from this little beast, it becomes easy to lose sight of just how much Access have got right in the design of the Virus... >First and foremost is the SOUND. Someone with a great set of ears designed this thing. I grew up on Minimoogs and analog synths, and the Virus is the first digital synth that really nails the warmth, the depth, the "balls" and the tweakability (in terms of smooth response to turning knobs) of an analog synth. Well done! The Virus seems to have been designed by people who really understand what makes analog synths interesting for musicians. For me, the "tweakability" aspect (dedicated controls as in a mixing desk, rapid programming, very well chosen laws and limits, OK knobs and buttons) is the most important factor of the Virus "sound" (meant dynamically - see above). People who just want "sound" can feed a sampler. Well done, too! BTW: I remember someone (Access?) writing that VST 3.6 can't be used to update the OS (I'm still on 1.54 due to various reports - but thinking about 1.58). A bug in VST? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 20:31:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 20:15:45 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Kraftwerk X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sascha Kujawa schrieb: >* From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >>heya< > >>You can make it sound really Kraftwerky if you plug a turntable into the Inputs and throw on a copy of Computer World. > >I would prefer to vocode my own drums :) > >Anyone heard "Nummern/Computerwelt2" (found it on SpaceNightVol4) > >PS: anyone knows if there is a tourDeFrance CD? With greetings from Germany > >Sascha Kujawa >Quality Assurance Manager >Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH Hi Sascha ! You find TourdeFrance on CD at http://kraftwerk.mdis.de It´s out on Emi-Records. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:02:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 11:54:11 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Go To www.tsi-gmbh.de NOW!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 07:51 PM 12/2/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From lowlifeform > >Who knows what you might find. > >DO IT ! ! ! ! > WOW!! WOW!!!! Awesome! /me is grinning shit-eatingly... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:55:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 20:54:56 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: And a merry Christmas . . . Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Oh, I feel so guilty. I refused the Vocoder And now I'm so excited about it. It's rather excellent, actually. Thank you Christoph, Thank you Joerg. And good night . . . . LoLife ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:29:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 12:22:23 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 08:05 PM 12/2/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" >>Hi, >>Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? Christoph >>access >;-) >If you can do a good one without having to swap the OS every time, yes please! Could be a good selling point. Otherwise it might just be too much trouble (for you and for the users). Hey, ummm... better check out http://www.tsi-gmbh.de j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:28:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:26:55 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Mark Pulver ] To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes I too receive a fair share of bounced messages. Rick ---Jay Vaughan wrote: > >* From Jay Vaughan > >At 04:16 PM 12/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >>* From "Paul D'Amato" >> >>Can someone please tell me why I keep getting 3 to 5 bounces a day from >>Teklab with Jay Vaughns address and sig file at the bottom ? >> > >Send one of them to me. I'd like to see it. > > > >j. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:41:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Go To www.tsi-gmbh.de NOW!!! Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 21:32:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From lowlifeform > >Who knows what you might find. > >DO IT ! ! ! ! AHA!!!! I knew it!!!! Great work guys.....I can't think of a manufacturer with better support then the people at Access.... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl downloading it now..... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:34:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:35:49 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Go To www.tsi-gmbh.de NOW!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes Hella Yea, Boys. I can't wait to get home tonight to check it out. Sweeeeeeeeeeet..... Rick ---Jay Vaughan wrote: > >* From Jay Vaughan > >At 07:51 PM 12/2/98 +0000, you wrote: >>* From lowlifeform >> >>Who knows what you might find. >> >>DO IT ! ! ! ! >> > >WOW!! WOW!!!! > >Awesome! > >/me is grinning shit-eatingly... > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 22:22:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Vocoder Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 21:49:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>Hi, >>Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? Christoph >>access > >;-) >If you can do a good one without having to swap the OS every time, yes please! Could be a good selling point. Otherwise it might just be too much trouble (for you and for the users). hee, not so negative...this is just an extra function!!! for free!!! Marcel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 21:53:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:52:34 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Meet in Amsterdam, Coffee Shop ??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Well, if you want to join us.. I made a site with all the people who want to come. Send me a mail to my personal adress (not the access-list, so don't reply) at di-mi@dds.nl with: -name -email -URL (homepage) -at the meeting I would take..... -What everyone should know about me... We haven't got a date yet, and we haven't decided whether to bring our virusses or not, but we'll find out later. But I could try to fix a place where we all could play with our red toy! Have a look at http://145.99.128.7/evp Dimitri. At 11:56 1-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From Rutger van Dongen > >>>or if somebody is in amsterdam accidentally, > > >>That gave me an idea. European Virus Posse!!! Let's all meet in an Amsterdam coffee shop (this is important!!)in the new year (with our Viruses, of course), stay there and "relax" for a few hours and then go back to someone's studio for a mega-jam. Sounds like my idea of fun, especially if some virus girls come too . . . . > > >Yeah! Sounds great. >I'm sure Í can get my Virus and Virus-girl with me to such a mega-gig!!! > >Ishi. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 22:02:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 12:55:35 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: OS2.0 VOCODER - Oh my GOD!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Just downloaded and installed OS2.0. Played a boring loop from my little handheld SU10 sampler into the Virus. Oh, My, GOD!!!! Instantly transformed this boring cheesy little lo-fi rythmn into this amazingly deep and organic wash of waves and spectra. Unbelievable. I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this tonight - I just wish I didn't work so close to my Access Virus right now! Hah hah! Access, you have my utter praise. You guys are *AWESOME* instrument mfr's. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 22:23:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 22:22:43 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Waaaa! The Vocoder! (RE: Go To www.tsi-gmbh.de NOW!!!) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Ahahahahaaaaaaaaah???? Glblmjmkbmmww.!!!! Subbriflupwowowowokounub.!!!!!! Ahem! A vocoder. Quite nice. But why is my define/value knob bug not fixed? ;-) This is great, access guys! I'll buy you another Guiness! Say, why don't you come to the Virus meeting too!? Look at http://145.99.128.7/evp (server may be down sometimes... hope to fix this soon) Dimitri. At 21:32 2-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From lowlifeform >> >>Who knows what you might find. >> >>DO IT ! ! ! ! > >AHA!!!! I knew it!!!! >Great work guys.....I can't think of a manufacturer with better support then the people at Access.... > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl >downloading it now..... >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 00:34:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Vocoders,Modulation Matrices etc...... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes The dual filters/multi-routing is one of the primary reasons I wanted a Virus. This is also why I want the ability to modulate each cutoff separately from LFO 1&2. That would really kick arse. I also love the inclusion of the spectral waves. They really expand the sonic possibilities of the Virus. Lets not forget the external inputs and flexible internal routing schemes. I love this baby. I sure hope the Vocoder kicks. It's description seems extremely flexible in the readme file. Much more than most of us probably expected. BTW: Thanks Access for blessing us with such a well designed synth. It really is the cream of the crop.. Rick >Btw, while the general subject of conversation revolves around what's missing from this little beast, it becomes easy to lose sight of just how much Access have got right in the design of the Virus. Therefore I would like to propose a thread on what particular features people like about the Virus. > >I for one love the dual filter idea. Also I'm getting some positively obese bass sounds using twin mode. >I also love the inclusion of the time function of the envelopes, gives some pretty unique sounds........... >Anyone else..... > > >Bilbo Bagginz > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 02:58:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 03:00:16 +0100 From: Rutger van Dongen Subject: Vocoder To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rutger van Dongen WOW! I like that Vocoder sooooo much... maybe it's because my experience with vocoders isn't that much, but i'm really impressed!! i've played with it for hours now, although i really had to do some studying this evening... i just can't stop myself trying to do all kind of exciting things with those damn knobs... thanx a lot Access!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 03:04:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 18:00:41 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I like that Vocoder sooooo much... >maybe it's because my experience with vocoders isn't that much, but i'm really impressed!! >i've played with it for hours now, although i really had to do some studying this evening... i just can't stop myself trying to do all kind of exciting things with those damn knobs... No kidding! For anyone that wants a gear suggestion, get a cheap SU10 sampler, and use it as a phrase/wavetable playback sampler for input into your Virus. I tell you, some totally amazing sounds are possible with this combination - the SU10 has its own filters too, so it's even more flexible. Take some cheesy drum loop, or maybe some vocal phrase or something, sample it into the SU10, and away you go! Have to admit, my buddy and I laughed our asses off this afternoon, as I plugged in the Mic, fired up the Vocoder patches, and uttered "Intergalactic Planetary, Planetary Intergalactic"... couldn't help myself! Awesome! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 04:28:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:13:19 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Go To www.tsi-gmbh.de NOW!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/2/98 1:58:59 PM, vcs3@usa.net writes: >Who knows what you might find. > >DO IT ! ! ! ! > That's it!!!!! You guys are the greatest!!!!!!!!!!! (now can I have that third envelope generator, please?????) Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 06:12:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:12:27 -0800 From: Bill McCarty X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bill McCarty Hi all, After failing to update the OS by using Jazz and several other sequencers, in desparation I fired up Cakewalk 8.01 and succeeded in updating the OS by running at 60 BPM. If nothing else works for you, it's worth a shot. I'm using a PC and MOTU MIDI Express XT. Cheers, Bill CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >>* From "B. Hamiltoin" >> >>My Access came with v 1.51 and for many months I have been trying to send the OS to the VIRUS with no luck. I was using Cakewalk 6.0, 7.01 and 8.01 as well as Cubase VST for Windows. None of these products worked. In the case of Cubase, it would hang the whole system. With Cakewalk (maybe someday the meaning of the term "cakewalk" will be changed to mean "something that is nearly impossible to master" instead of "easily mastered."), the VIRUS would always report that there were CHECKSUM FAILURES. > >It is known, that Cakewalk has problem with updating the Virus out of some reason. >Cubase VST 3.55 also has a bug that make it impossible to playback longer SysEx files. > >Christoph Kemper >access > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- Dr. Bill McCarty, Associate Professor School of Business & Management Azusa Pacific University Ph. 626 815-3839 901 East Alosta Avenue Secty. 626 812-3085 Azusa, CA 91702 USA Fax 626 815-3802 mailto:bmccarty@apu.edu http://www.apu.edu/~bmccarty ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 2 22:23:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:22:09 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Vocs,Modz Etc. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha Bagginz wrote: >First and foremost is the SOUND. Someone with a great set of ears designed >this thing. I grew up on Minimoogs and analog synths, and the Virus is the >first digital synth that really nails the warmth, the depth, the "balls" and >the tweakability (in terms of smooth response to turning knobs) of an analog >synth. > >Well done! >Marshall > > I have to agree about the sound. I find myself using some Virus sounds completely dry in my mixes, something that I have rarely done before. I put this is down to sound quality. And I also agree with Rob about the fact that a synth hasn't been made that does it all, which is to say, sounds like every other good synth ever made. I love the differences in character of various synths and one of the things that I particularly like about the Virus is that it actually has a character, without it's character being too defined by it's limitations. Btw Rob, talking about Korg MS20s, last month I picked up a mint condition MS20 in Belgrade for 500DM while I was there playing a show. Total bargain mate. Sounds great and lots of fun to programme. Bilbo Bagginz ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 07:25:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 01:15:36 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com Just to throw out some more info- I have been able to upgrade the Virus (several times now) at full tempo with VisionDSP (Mac) thru a Studio4 without any problems. By the way...instead of calling them Virus Upgrades, shouldn't we be calling them VIRUS MUTATIONS? I'm infected and there's no hope...... Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 08:07:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MailingGoa@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:06:34 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MailingGoa@aol.com Hey, I, too, for the LONGEST had version 1.19, I think. I got the instrument the moment it landed at Geoff Farr's house! I was trying to update it thru my SoundBlaster, failing miserably, and was getting the Checksum Error message, too. Finally, I bought the MusicQuest (opcode) MIDI card, left my soundblaster in and the modem, dumped the entire OS of my 'puter to a big drive, got rid of shit, and since there were conflicts with IRQ (?) assignments when I put in the MIDI CARD, doing the OS dump and deleting the C drive allowed the computer to make the assignments with Windows '95. So, now it all speaks politely with one another, works great, my Nord Modular communicates well, and my ACCESS VIRUS updates in one pass at 60 BPM. michael ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 11:09:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:08:47 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: It's oh so quiet . . . . . Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform It's gone really quiet on the list since the vocoder arrived. Somebody say something!! . . . I've got to wait 7 hours before I can go home to experiment with it again. Life is so cruel. LoLife ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 11:56:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: vcs3@usa.net, access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:55:42 +0000 Subject: Re: It's oh so quiet . . . . . Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >It's gone really quiet on the list since the vocoder arrived. Somebody say something!! . . . I've got to wait 7 hours before I can go home to experiment with it again. Life is so cruel. > >LoLife > It's 10.50 GMT and having just downloaded it, like you I have to wait 'till this evening to try it out. Work is such a waste of a life! Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 12:33:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Good synths and a newborn classic from Germany. Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:33:26 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" |I have to agree about the sound. I find myself using some Virus sounds |completely dry in my mixes, something that I have rarely done before. I put |this is down |to sound quality. | |And I also agree with Rob about the fact that a synth hasn't been made that |does it all, which is to say, sounds like every other good synth ever made. |I love the differences in character of various synths and one of the things |that I particularly like about the Virus is that it actually has a |character, without it's character being too defined by it's limitations. |Btw Rob, talking about Korg MS20s, last month I picked up a mint condition |MS20 in Belgrade for 500DM while I was there playing a show. Total bargain |mate. Sounds great and lots of fun to programme. | | |Bilbo Bagginz Jip, and the MS-20 looks also very cool. The eye want's also someting! And Good synth stays a good synth! Nomatter the age. Also the Virus has indeed a sound that is full of character. A newborn classic for shure. Rob | | | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 13:55:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 07:52:35 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Kai Niggemann Subject: Re: Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kai Niggemann At 06:00 PM 12/2/98 -0800, you wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > > >For anyone that wants a gear suggestion, get a cheap SU10 sampler, and use it as a phrase/wavetable playback sampler for input into your Virus. I yeah, I use one also. But I also like to use BackToBasics on my Mac (www.reinformation.com) or a portable MiniDisk Player/recorder that I also use to collect sounds... >Have to admit, my buddy and I laughed our asses off this afternoon, as I plugged in the Mic, fired up the Vocoder patches, and uttered "Intergalactic Planetary, Planetary Intergalactic"... couldn't help myself! ;)))) I had to do it too while I was betatesting the critter...;) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 17:48:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:43:22 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes While I have limited experience with a true analog vocoder, I think the Virus Vocoder is funk'n great. Once I got my head around it, it was pure bliss. I am really impressed with the quality of sound and flexibility of control. Manipulating the 8 available parameters really can warp the output in fantastic ways. Using the Osc as a source, and manipulating wave shape, sync, and FM amount brought on some mutha funk'n crazy arse results. Now I am ready to take it to multi-mode and use the aux bus. Thanks for giving us (IMHO) a "real" vocoder. Not only is the Virus one incredible synth, but it is a brilliant filter/effects box to boot! Using my O1v omni outs routed to the Virus inputs lets my entire setup have "Access" to the Virus. I love this synth. I love it , I love it, I love it. Rick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 18:04:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Upgrading the OS: Tip Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:09:47 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I have had success with ActiveMovie which is a free Plug-in for Internet Explorer 4.x. ActiveMovie is essentially the same thing as the outdated MediaPlayer. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: MailingGoa@aol.com [mailto:MailingGoa@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 11:07 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip >> >> >>* From MailingGoa@aol.com >> >>Hey, >> >>I, too, for the LONGEST had version 1.19, I think. I got the instrument the >>moment it landed at Geoff Farr's house! >> >>I was trying to update it thru my SoundBlaster, failing miserably, and was >>getting the Checksum Error message, too.  >> >>Finally, I bought the MusicQuest (opcode) MIDI card, left my soundblaster in >>and the modem, dumped the entire OS of my 'puter to a big drive, got rid of >>shit, and since there were conflicts with IRQ (?) assignments when I put in >>the MIDI CARD, doing the OS dump and deleting the C drive allowed the computer >>to make the assignments with Windows '95. >> >>So, now it all speaks politely with one another, works great, my Nord Modular >>communicates well, and my ACCESS VIRUS updates in one pass at 60 BPM.  >> >>michael >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 02:49:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 17:54:23 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com I have a 01v and that's a great tip!!! Thanks Rick! M Rick Reyes wrote: >* From Rick Reyes > >While I have limited experience with a true analog vocoder, I think the Virus Vocoder is funk'n great. Once I got my head around it, it was pure bliss. I am really impressed with the quality of sound and flexibility of control. Manipulating the 8 available parameters really can warp the output in fantastic ways. Using the Osc as a source, and manipulating wave shape, sync, and FM amount brought on some mutha funk'n crazy arse results. Now I am ready to take it to multi-mode and use the aux bus. Thanks for giving us (IMHO) a "real" vocoder. WARNING: The remainder of this 4K message has not been transferred, because there was not enough disk space. Make more space and check mail again to get the whole thing.X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 02:49:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 17:54:23 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com I have a 01v and that's a great tip!!! Thanks Rick! M Rick Reyes wrote: >* From Rick Reyes > >While I have limited experience with a true analog vocoder, I think the Virus Vocoder is funk'n great. Once I got my head around it, it was pure bliss. I am really impressed with the quality of sound and flexibility of control. Manipulating the 8 available parameters really can warp the output in fantastic ways. Using the Osc as a source, and manipulating wave shape, sync, and FM amount brought on some mutha funk'n crazy arse results. Now I am ready to take it to multi-mode and use the aux bus. Thanks for giving us (IMHO) a "real" vocoder. > >Not only is the Virus one incredible synth, but it is a brilliant filter/effects box to boot! Using my O1v omni outs routed to the Virus inputs lets my entire setup have "Access" to the Virus. I love this synth. I love it , I love it, I love it. > >Rick > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 19:06:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Rudolf Lindner To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: AW: Good synths and a newborn classic from Germany. Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:04:46 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rudolf Lindner 500 Deutschmarks for a MS 20??? Gee, I paid DM 700,- for that beast and that was 15 Jears ago. Bye for now, have to play with the vocoder...... Rudolf ____________________________________________________________ |Btw Rob, talking about Korg MS20s, last month I picked up a mint condition |MS20 in Belgrade for 500DM while I was there playing a show. Total bargain |mate. Sounds great and lots of fun to programme. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:WINMAIL.DAT 2 (????/----) (0000A00A)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 19:58:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl (Unverified) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:57:37 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: bug found, clicking noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I found a bug now. And now I am sure it is really a bug. I have some strings (4 notes), played each 16 counts. Then there is a syncopic sine bass, half a count (1/8) before each firs of 4 counts. And that is when I hear a very ugly click! The digital click you'd get when you'd randomly skip some samples in a sound-'sample'. (in fact, a sound-'sample' is serie of samples.) This problem did not exist in this song untill.... i hate to say.... I introduced a third single with the Vocoder function! -When I start this tune, and the vocoder mode is set to In R, the clicks appear. -As soon as I switch it off, it disappears. -When I turn it on again, is doen't reappear. -When I stop the tune (sequencer) and start again, it re-appears. -When I stop the tune, programm the patch to Vocoder: mode off, it doesn't appear. -When I turn on Vocoder: mode on, the problem doesn't appear. Maybe it also has to do with the former clicking problem. If you (access) want , I can send the patch dumps to you. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 21:58:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:52:15 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Not only is the Virus one incredible synth, but it is a brilliant filter/effects box to boot! Using my O1v omni outs routed to the Virus inputs lets my entire setup have "Access" to the Virus. I love this synth. I love it , I love it, I love it. Hell YES! Anyone that's heard me blathering about the Virus on some of the other TekLab mailing lists know that I love this synth. It JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER! Access, you are the new gods of the synth world, imho. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 22:07:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:59:58 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 09:28 PM 10/3/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From Hannibal Man this Machine is the REAL SHIT!!! >Thanx Guys !!!!!! For those non-Americans on the list that might be a tad confused by this expression, saying something is "The SHIT!" means that it is the best there possibly is. Bizaare, I know, but this is America. Saying something is "the REAL SHIT" means that this is not just a superficial "shit", but an absolutely really the best there possible is "shit". And it is. The Virus is the absolute best synth I have in my collection. I'm gonna make all my friends buy one now... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 23:02:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:01:41 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda hA! I know a better joke, who knows the old mr10 drumbox by Yamaha? I have one here. It only has presets like walch, marimba, 16th, disco, latin, samba, etc. It woul do a nice job with my grandfather's electric organ, and that's it. But when you use 2 presets mixed, very interesting drumpatterns start to exist, and when you put a distortion effect or a flange over it it sounds great. But when you put a vocoder over it............ AAAAH!!!! I could already make a great song with only this! Dimitri. At 18:00 2-12-98 -0800, you wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >>I like that Vocoder sooooo much... >>maybe it's because my experience with vocoders isn't that much, but i'm really impressed!! >>i've played with it for hours now, although i really had to do some studying this evening... i just can't stop myself trying to do all kind of exciting things with those damn knobs... > >No kidding! > >For anyone that wants a gear suggestion, get a cheap SU10 sampler, and use it as a phrase/wavetable playback sampler for input into your Virus. I tell you, some totally amazing sounds are possible with this combination - the SU10 has its own filters too, so it's even more flexible. Take some cheesy drum loop, or maybe some vocal phrase or something, sample it into the SU10, and away you go! > >Have to admit, my buddy and I laughed our asses off this afternoon, as I plugged in the Mic, fired up the Vocoder patches, and uttered "Intergalactic Planetary, Planetary Intergalactic"... couldn't help myself! > >Awesome! > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 00:23:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:23:12 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: DOPE!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes That's funny! I was one of the Americans taking " The Shit" for granted. When I read it, I didn't even think how it might sound to anyone that is not American. I agree...Without a doubt, the Virus is the best synth I own. I think I may become a Virus Evangelist... Rick >For those non-Americans on the list that might be a tad confused by this >expression, saying something is "The SHIT!" means that it is the best there >possibly is. Bizaare, I know, but this is America. > >And it is. The Virus is the absolute best synth I have in my collection. >I'm gonna make all my friends buy one now... > > > >j. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 09:03:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 00:07:47 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Yes, this is sooo stupid, please anyone help me get of this list now!!!!!! lowlifeform wrote: >* From lowlifeform > >Stop it !! Stop it !! >You're making me ill. > >>>Dear Americans, >>>If I understood well, you mean that a "shitty machine" is the contrary of "the >>>real shit"... ;-) > >>Right. If a machine is "the real shit", it is not a "shitty machine". > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 3 13:57:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:53:58 +0100 From: Marian Kubinec To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: It's oh so quiet . . . . . Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness MJUUZIK NON.STOOP WE ARE THE ROBOTSZZ lowlifeform wrote: * From lowlifeform It's gone really quiet on the list since the vocoder arrived. Somebody say something!! . . . I've got to wait 7 hours before I can go home to experiment with it again. Life is so cruel. LoLife ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 02:33:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 17:29:33 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: FS1R thoughts Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 08:40 PM 12/3/98 -0400, you wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >some of you have asked for some yamaha FSR1 comments. these come courtesy of martin selway.\cheers martin weld > And there's also a new FS1R related mailing list now running here at TekLab too, for those that are interested: http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 03:09:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 03:06:43 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >>Not only is the Virus one incredible synth, but it is a brilliant filter/effects box to boot! Using my O1v omni outs routed to the Virus inputs lets my entire setup have "Access" to the Virus. I love this synth. I love it , I love it, I love it. > >Hell YES! > >Anyone that's heard me blathering about the Virus on some of the other TekLab mailing lists know that I love this synth. It JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER! > >Access, you are the new gods of the synth world, imho. Thats for sure!!!!! The first really new classic synth since the Nord Lead :-)) I hadnt have the time to test the Vocoder, but I am just wrighting a Sound Diver Adation for the Vocoder (at home - without my tiny red devil) , so that it will be easy to use for Mac and SD users . I will be ready tomorrow, so send me a mail if you want it to bainray@real-net.de. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 03:09:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 03:06:45 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >At 09:28 PM 10/3/98 +0100, you wrote: >>* From Hannibal Man this Machine is the REAL SHIT!!! >>Thanx Guys !!!!!! > >For those non-Americans on the list that might be a tad confused by this expression, saying something is "The SHIT!" means that it is the best there possibly is. Bizaare, I know, but this is America. > >Saying something is "the REAL SHIT" means that this is not just a superficial "shit", but an absolutely really the best there possible is "shit". > >And it is. The Virus is the absolute best synth I have in my collection. I'm gonna make all my friends buy one now... I allready did, if they didnt allready had one :-) ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 03:28:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 18:22:18 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: JAY! READ THIS: MPC2000 /w Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 21:22:34 -0500 >To: jay@teklab.com >From: Primal Scream Subject: JAY! READ THIS: MPC2000 /w Access Virus > >Hello, for some reason everytime i try and send mail to the list it never gets posted.. i dunno why. Anyways, here's what i want to post.. could you post it for me? >Thanx, > >Eric > > > > > >Ok, i have a couple of problems here: > >1) I heard that the Mpc won't load .mids biger than a certain ammount, i can't remeber exactly how big, but because of this i can't update my OS via the mpc, it there a way around it? > >2) If i stop one of my songs in the middle of an arrpeggiation, when i restart it it's COMPLETELY off, totally out of sync. If i was to start a song off with just an arpeggiation, it starts off wrong for about 1-2 seconds, then kicks in to be synced.. what's happening? how can i fix this? > >3) I can't load any patches i get. The mpc WILL load them, yet it does not seem to be transmitting to the virus, even though it's all set up properly. Any ideas? > >Anyone else using an mpc2000 with their virus? > >thanx, > >Eric > > j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 03:58:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: "Access Virus List" Subject: argh... Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:56:28 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" I cannot get the update to work with cubase vst 3.6 on the pc with a motu midi express xt. i was unable to do this in the past and I've never updated the synth, but now I really want to.. the problem I had with dumping sounds is nonexistant though. ive got 1.53 currently what happens is that I run the sequence (with only 1 channel in cubase being the sysex channel) with all clock synchronization disabled, etc.. ive even disabled the audio engine... ive tried various bpm (as low as 60 i believe) and it gets to step 20 and always locks up... has anyone been succesful with this setup? I saw access said this was one of the tested systems. thanks daniel cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 04:09:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:05:47 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Oh man this Vocoder is *DEADLY* Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan I just spent about an hour playing with the vocoder. I had to stop, because the next door neighbours went mad. WOW! I could play with this for hours... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 04:21:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 04:19:09 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Dear Americans, If I understood well, you mean that a "shitty machine" is the contrary of "the real shit"... ;-) Ciao, Joeri (from Belgium... not US) -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 04:33:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:29:50 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Dear Americans, >If I understood well, you mean that a "shitty machine" is the contrary of "the real shit"... ;-) Right. If a machine is "the real shit", it is not a "shitty machine". j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 06:04:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "LFO" To: Subject: Re: argh... Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:17:37 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "LFO" >* From "Terminal Bliss" > >I cannot get the update to work with cubase vst 3.6 on the pc with a motu midi express xt. i was unable to do this in the past and I've never updated >the synth, but now I really want to.. the problem I had with dumping sounds is nonexistant though. ive got 1.53 currently As was suggested before on the list, download the shareware sequencer called Jazz from www.shareware.com. Worked fine for me. Another freeware choice for the mac would be MIDIGraphy. Good luck. LFO ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 08:45:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 07:44:41 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Stop it !! Stop it !! You're making me ill. >>Dear Americans, >>If I understood well, you mean that a "shitty machine" is the contrary of "the >>real shit"... ;-) >Right. If a machine is "the real shit", it is not a "shitty machine". ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 16:09:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 07:14:10 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: second 2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Hello, Can anyone tell me what happened...My Virus will not update anymore!!?? I been using a studio 4, Galaxy 2.5.4, Cubase 4.0 and I've been getting this message or something like this: Can't read all 257k but only read 11 k... It's doesn't seem to enable to store all the settings? It's either the Galaxy program (which hasn't change) or a friend came by and change the Virus settings... What should the Virus be set at in terms of the MIDI Control/edit stuff is concerned? Thanks a whole bunch!!! -M Sascha Kujawa wrote: >* From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >>heya< > >>>>is anyone else having trouble loading in the vocoder pathes from the second file in 2.0??? everytime i read them i cant seem to find them in the virus???? >>>Yeah, same here. >>yep, also same here, it looks to me that the Virus does not recognise the >>midi fie, and because of that does not start loading the patches > >The second.mid is also a system Update which seems to replace the "rom" patches. It's not a single dump of patches! > >You have to burn it like you do with first.mid (press store during startup etc.) > >With greetings from Germany > >Sascha Kujawa >Quality Assurance Manager >Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH > >private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 08:50:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 07:46:21 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:20:55 -0400, weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: >is anyone else having trouble loading in the vocoder pathes from the second file in 2.0??? everytime i read them i cant seem to find them in the virus???? Yeah, same here. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 09:29:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:29:26 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: second 2.0 X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 152e" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:20:55 -0400, weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: >>is anyone else having trouble loading in the vocoder pathes from the >second >>file in 2.0??? everytime i read them i cant seem to find them >in the >>virus???? >Yeah, same here. >Paul yep, also same here, it looks to me that the Virus does not recognise the midi fie, and because of that does not start loading the patches and if I remember correctly there was also a small display problem with the the new function of one of the envlope's release, where 32 had to be the maxium, the stored settings is 66 or something... bye, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 10:10:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Subject: Re: second 2.0 Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 09:04:14 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >>>is anyone else having trouble loading in the vocoder pathes from the second file in 2.0??? everytime i read them i cant seem to find them in the virus???? >>Yeah, same here. >yep, also same here, it looks to me that the Virus does not recognise the >midi fie, and because of that does not start loading the patches The second.mid is also a system Update which seems to replace the "rom" patches. It's not a single dump of patches! You have to burn it like you do with first.mid (press store during startup etc.) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 12:31:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: thoughts about the vocoder.....IMPORTANT Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 13:32:50 +0200 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz hi everyone..... allthough i dont write to the list that much i still read mostly all of the stuff wich is written to it,but now i have to,also write....:-) seriously the virus is the most amazing synt i ever got (and i got a lot ), but ,folx,am i doing something wrong ?! first let me say that i did use most of all the payable analog vocoders (such as ems,korg,roland ,sennheiser),and if i didnt own them,i at least heard them (a rehberg vocoder is about 20,000 dollar !!).;-) did someone out there try to use the virusvocoder strictly normal with a mic ?because in my case it seems to not correct analyse the modulator... what i mean is the "a-e-i-o-u",and especially the "s"-characters.... dont get me wrong,but 32 bands are a lot !! that should be way enough to at least understand spoken words,if the carrier has a wide frequency range !! but i cant understand a word !! it triggers the sound i use as a carrier but its not really possible to build the correct formants and no "s-es",even if i use noise upon ther carrier.... that only makes the sound completely more bright and noisy,but it should not be bright if i say "uuuuuuuu" or "oooooooo".....only if my voice is getting brighter it should be a brighter sound,like in the case of "eeeeeee" or "ssssssss",correct me if im wrong.i got a dynacord srv 16 vocoder,it has 12 bands only but its analysing and rebuilding the spoken formantcharacters a lot better !!! and the virus has 32 (wich i DID turn on,too :-) )!!! please get me correct,im NOT into that "analog-is-better-than-digital-shit" and i love the virus as much as i love good looking women,but if there is no way to use those 32 bands like it should be,it would have been greater,if the virus had become a ringmodulator and a complete modulationsmatrix..... dont get me wrong,i really dont want to comlain,but if i compare the quality of the virus to its vocoder,i have to say im quite disapointed..... please access,dont start to set quantity over quality,please...... itwould be the wrong way........i think we all would wait much longer for an update if we knew it always has got this "access-quality" we all love so much........ the settings i made are ok,i mean i didnt make mistakes like turning the filterbalance to the left a bit or similar,so i think im not that wrong with my thougts and i hope i did not piss of all of u "ill-cause- infected" members(especially u,christof ....:-) ) hope to get replys...... nico "first time i love to be ill!!!" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "MAY THE SOUND BE WITH YOU" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 12:47:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Rudolf Lindner To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: AW: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:46:36 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rudolf Lindner I have loaded the second file using the OS upgrade procedure. Everything's working. Rudolf ____________________________________________________________ Rudolf Lindner Engineering Manager e-mail: mailto:Rudolf.Lindner@csdsoft.de CSD Software GmbH Enzianstr. 4 phone : +49 (0)8151 369 0 D-82319 Starnberg fax : +49 (0)8151 369 88 ____________________________________________________________ -----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Paul Nagle [SMTP:paul@softroom.demon.co.uk] Gesendet am: Freitag, 4. Dezember 1998 08:46 An: access-list@teklab.com Betreff: Re: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:20:55 -0400, weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: >is anyone else having trouble loading in the vocoder pathes from the second file in 2.0??? everytime i read them i cant seem to find them in the virus???? Yeah, same here. Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:WINMAIL.DAT 3 (????/----) (0000A00B)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 14:03:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 14:00:23 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Block Diagram programme. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S I'd like to make a scheme in which every function of the virus is described: All functions in the OSC section, the filter section, the Amp-EG., the LFO's, the effects, etc. I want to write down things like sysex code and controller information next to it too. I need a programm to assist me with this, are there any suggestions? I know there is a scheme of the filter routings, but that's just a very small part, so, does anybody know a block-diagram programme? Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ "In a world without walls and fences we don't need windows and gates." IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 14:36:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MailingGoa@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:31:43 EST To: an1x-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: [lists] fibrOptic - BooM!Records - MICHAEL - Psychedelic Goa - CD Release Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MailingGoa@aol.com 12/4/98 Hi, all! BooM!Records (Netherlands) will be releasing a CD Compilation entitled DOUBLE DIPPED quite soon for all you fans of Psychedelic Goa Trance. My track, CALIBRATE (recording under the artist title, "fibrOptic") appears to be song number five in the order sequence. If any of you get a chance, you can hear some of the work from the site provided in the copied text below to which I've legally transferred ownership of this insane tune of mine. thanks, michael fibrOptic http://www.bobnet.co.uk/koyote/artists/mg.html They wrote: >In a message dated 12/4/98 1:31:40 AM Central Standard Time, boom@ boomrecords.com writes: > >>Subj: [604] Double Dipped >>Date: 12/4/98 1:31:40 AM Central Standard Time From: boom@boomrecords.com (Matt & Rem) >>Sender: owner-goa@party.net >> >>High all! >>We are slowly winning the battle with life which we entered after our distributor went bust. Our much awaited compilation, Double Dipped, will finally be available on Monday. It suffered delay after delay, but its finally here. The track listing is as follows : >> >>1. Ubar Tmar - Cosmodrome (Japan) >>2. Mind Warped - People Of Earth (USA) 3. Cosmoon - Plankton Travelling (Holland) 4. Looping Lizards - Yam (Belgium) >>5. Fibroptic - Calibrate (USA) >>6. Trinity - Guru (Croatia + Japan) >>7. Dogma - Lokkvom (Croatia ) >>8. Die Sonne - The Rip (Switzerland) >>9. Twister - Mindfluid (Sweden) >> >> >>Double Dipped will initially be avaible from us direct, or through Cosmophilia. >>We are still looking for new distributors to work with around the world, >so >>if you can help us with this or are interested in distribution yourself, please send us a mail or give us a ring. >> >>You can listen to some audio samples here: http://www.boomrecords.com/label_releases.html For Cosmophilias address, go here: http://www.boomrecords.com/news.html >> >> >>with much PLUR >> >>Matt & Remko >> >>ps. Our apologies to anyone who has received this message twice ! >> >>---------->>Please note our new address AND phone numbers and amend your files accordingly !! >> >>‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡ Snail mail : Matt and Remko, >> BooM! 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 12:57:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 14:04:08 +0000 From: Meister Organization: Institute of Immunology To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Good synths and a newborn classic from Germany. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Meister > >|Btw Rob, talking about Korg MS20s, last month I picked up a mint condition |MS20 in Belgrade for 500DM while I was there playing a show. Total bargain |mate. Sounds great and lots of fun to programme. > > >Jip, and the MS-20 looks also very cool. The eye want's also someting! And Good synth stays a good synth! >Nomatter the age I want a MS-20, but where i can get one? I live in Vienna, so if someone would sell one near me (also Germany) tell me please. I´m also interested in Moog. My Virus needs some brothers ; p Alex ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 08:42:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:56:47 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: Re: Good synths and a newborn classic from Germany. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla >* From "Rob Papen" > > >|I have to agree about the sound. I find myself using some Virus sounds |completely dry in my mixes, something that I have rarely done before. I put >|this is down >|to sound quality. >| >|And I also agree with Rob about the fact that a synth hasn't been made that |does it all, which is to say, sounds like every other good synth ever made. |I love the differences in character of various synths and one of the things |that I particularly like about the Virus is that it actually has a |character, without it's character being too defined by it's limitations. |Btw Rob, talking about Korg MS20s, last month I picked up a mint condition |MS20 in Belgrade for 500DM while I was there playing a show. Total bargain |mate. Sounds great and lots of fun to programme. | >| >|Bilbo Bagginz > .>>>>>>>>>>> Thats whats so nice about Synths today,they are relativly inexpencive,soyou can afford to have a 1/6 dozen (or more around) machines around,and take advantage of each-ones unique strengths. Iam only aware of one system that doesit all at the same time and that is KYMA! 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 17:17:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 08:06:03 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: AW: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 12:46 PM 12/4/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From Rudolf Lindner > >I have loaded the second file using the OS upgrade procedure. Everything's working. > Me too. They're internal patches, so you load them just like you load the OS... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 16:53:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "LFO" To: Subject: Re: thoughts about the vocoder.....IMPORTANT Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:06:37 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "LFO" >* From Nico Herz >did someone out there try to use the virusvocoder strictly normal with a mic ?because in my case it seems to not correct analyse the modulator... what i mean is the "a-e-i-o-u",and especially the "s"-characters.... dont get me wrong,but 32 bands are a lot !! that should be way enough to at least understand spoken words......... Hello Nico- I too had similar results when using a mic.....but, after playing around a little more and especially trying various patches & tweaks I was able to get a much more satisfactory "vocal" sound using the mic. I'm sure you have more vocoder experience than I, I'm sure you will be able to get some satisfactoy results from the Virus. Good luck.. LFO ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 17:17:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 08:06:59 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Block Diagram programme. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I'd like to make a scheme in which every function of the virus is described: All functions in the OSC section, the filter section, the Amp-EG., the LFO's, the effects, etc. I want to write down things like sysex code and controller information next to it too. I need a programm to assist me with this, are there any suggestions? Visio would probably be the best for this, though it's a PC program. Don't have a URL handy, but you could AltaVista for "+Viso +drawing +templates". j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 17:09:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:10:26 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: The Vocoder Kicks Ass!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes Cool, glad to help. Hey don't forget to set the Aux send to Pre-Fader and turn down the instrument fader. That way you only hear the processed signal. Unless you want to hear a Dry/Wet mix. Rick ---monokrom@sirius.com wrote: > >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >I have a 01v and that's a great tip!!! > >Thanks Rick! > >M > >>filter/effects box to boot! Using my O1v omni outs routed to the Virus >>inputs lets my entire setup have "Access" to the Virus. I love this synth. I love it , I love it, I love it. >> >>Rick >> >> _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 17:23:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:21:33 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: 2.0 patches To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes Using the same OS Burn procedure for both midi files, I was able to update the first try. There is nothing wrong with the files. Rick ---weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: > >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >christoph >can you please repost the 2.0 patches somewhere, there not reading in right/confrimed ny paul N >thx >Weld > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 17:30:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:33:38 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: DOPE!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes What's the big funk'n deal? Do you have a stick in your arse? Rick > > >Stop it !! Stop it !! >You're making me ill. > > >>>Dear Americans, >>>If I understood well, you mean that a "shitty machine" is the contrary of "the >>>real shit"... ;-) > >>Right. If a machine is "the real shit", it is not a "shitty machine". > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 17:39:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: s-cappiello@pop.ski.mskcc.org Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:41:06 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Steven Cappiello Subject: where should I get infected ?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steven Cappiello Dear list, I heard the Virus and am in love. Can someone recommend a place (and a price) to purchase my Virus ? I am in the New York area if that matters. Grazie ! -Steven o \o/ o _| \ / |_ \o/ o o/ _ o /|\ | /\ _\o \o | o/ O/_ | \|\ / | /\ / \ / \ |\ ) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / \ / / / \ |\ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 18:11:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 12:10:34 -0500 From: Dave Hylander To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: where should I get infected ?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dave Hylander I got mine last winter from Rogue Music in NYC, 212-629-5073. Can't remember the price exactly, but it was 1149 or 1199 at that time. Steven Cappiello wrote: > >* From Steven Cappiello > >Dear list, > >I heard the Virus and am in love. >Can someone recommend a place (and a price) to purchase my Virus ? >I am in the New York area if that matters. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 18:13:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: ReRe: thoughts about the vocoder.....IMPORTANT Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 19:16:10 +0200 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz >I'm sure you will be able to get some >satisfactoy results from the Virus. Good luck.. thanx....:-)but i already did try a lot actually....i wrote this message especially because i know exactly how a vocoder worx....i mean ,of course i could understand spoken words,but if i compare these results to other vocoders,no matter if digital (cheap boss s e 50,8 bands !) or analog (dynacord srv 60,12 bands),i always come to the point where i got to realize,that they do the job better than the virus,even if they DONT have the specs the virus has (such as 32 bands, detailed adjustment and so on...). and compared to the quality of this "red devil" in its character as a synthesizer i simply expected a lot better quality of its vocoder,such as the virus normally owns.....:-) u should listen to "the grand mix 1991"....its a mix of hits of one complete year ,released every year ,mixed by famous dj`s around the world,in this case 1991 mixed by ben liebrand.....maybe u know it. in the intro u hear some robots speaking about the musically invasion of the earth,hehe....THAT IS A GOOD VOCODERSOUND !! ;-))) if the virus would reach this sound,then it would be exactly the quality the virus got in its characteristic as a sythesizer...hehe... so ,u see...its not luck....:-) anyway,if u got some definitive tips how it worx better,then i would apreciate to hear them....i never can learn enough.......i mean it.... meanwhile i can give u one: if u use spoken stuff as a modulator,then put lots of compression on this material,leave the attack a little free,so that the "s"-sounds are coming up,then feed it into the vocoder......try this.....it brings a lot more quality to the "understanding of speech" (excuse my crap english)........... greez,nico "first time i love to be ill!!!" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "MAY THE SOUND BE WITH YOU" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 02:41:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:45:20 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness How about changing your font!? It's hard to read... Blackstone Hamilton wrote: How about a mode that lets the control surface of the VIRUS act as a programmer for my Matrix modules? X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 02:46:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:51:04 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com One the word (diction): "Dope" is out...move on. Try and be more creative with word usage for a change. Moreover, keep your pants on. Yes, the Virus is cool and the new vocoder is cool too... -M Rick Reyes wrote: >* From Rick Reyes > >What's the big funk'n deal? Do you have a stick in your arse? > >Rick > >> >> >>Stop it !! Stop it !! >>You're making me ill. >> >> >>>>Dear Americans, >>>>If I understood well, you mean that a "shitty machine" is the contrary of "the >>>>real shit"... ;-) >> >>>Right. If a machine is "the real shit", it is not a "shitty machine". >> >> >> >> > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 19:14:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: argh... Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:19:41 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I have both CW Pro 8.01 and Cubase VST 3.5x connected to a MOTU Express XT. I have not had success with either of these programs loading the OS. One list member said he WAS able to get CW to do it by using ONLY port 1. I have not test this. But I have had success by using the ActiveMovie which is a replacement for the MediaPlayer that comes with Windows. MediaPlayer should work too, but I haven't tested it. Make sure to go to the Control Panel and set the Default MIDI Output port to the one connected to the VIRUS. When using ActiveMovie there are no settings you have to make such as tempo. Just get the VIRUS ready, and play the file. Make sure also to set your MOTO device to "Sequencer 30 FPS". >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Terminal Bliss [mailto:terminal@xnet.com] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 6:56 PM To: Access Virus List >>Subject: argh... >> >> >>* From "Terminal Bliss" >> >>I cannot get the update to work with cubase vst 3.6 on the pc with a motu >>midi express xt. i was unable to do this in the past and I've never updated >>the synth, but now I really want to.. the problem I had with dumping sounds >>is nonexistant though. ive got 1.53 currently >> >>what happens is that I run the sequence (with only 1 channel in cubase being >>the sysex channel) with all clock synchronization disabled, etc.. ive even >>disabled the audio engine... ive tried various bpm (as low as 60 i believe) >>and it gets to step 20 and always locks up... >> >>has anyone been succesful with this setup? I saw access said this was one of >>the tested systems. >> >>thanks >>daniel cain >>terminal@xnet.com >>www.xnet.com/~terminal >> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 19:16:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: DOPE!!! Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:22:20 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness The key word is the word "the". "The shit" is good. "Shit" is just shit. "The bomb" is also good. "Bombing out" is bad. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck [mailto:joeri@nbdj.com] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:19 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: DOPE!!! >> >> >>* From Joeri Vankeirsbilck >> >>Dear Americans, >> >>If I understood well, you mean that a "shitty machine" is the contrary of "the >>real shit"... ;-) >> >>Ciao, >>Joeri (from Belgium... not US) >> >>-- >>Joeri Vankeirsbilck >>joeri@nbdj.com >> http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 19:24:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Block Diagram programme. Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:30:15 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >>* From Dimitri S >> >>I'd like to make a scheme in which every function of the virus is described: All functions in the OSC section, the filter section, the Amp-EG., the LFO's, the effects, etc. I want to write down things like >>sysex code and controller information next to it too. I need a programm to >>assist me with this, are there any suggestions? >> >>I know there is a scheme of the filter routings, but that's just a very >>small part, so, does anybody know a block-diagram programme? >> VISIO X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 21:37:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 12:25:54 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Lukas Svoboda ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:19:41 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Lukas Svoboda ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Fri Dec 4 12:19:38 1998 >Received: from kcbbs.gen.nz (kcbbs.gen.nz [202.14.102.1]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA03332 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:19:36 -0800 Received: from lukas-p120 (as5200-09.kcbbs.gen.nz [202.14.102.39]) by kcbbs.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06284 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:12:11 +1300 (NZDT) Received: by lukas-p120 (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:19:29 +1300 >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981205091920.010ae1f0@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: lukashome@192.168.0.1 >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 09:19:20 +1300 >To: access-list@teklab.com >From: Lukas Svoboda Subject: Thank you to Access!! and some personal stuff... In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981203125139.0133e100@teklab.com> References: <19981203164322.19170.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0 Unregistered > >Hi everyone! I have been on the list for a long time now, since the days there were little postings. I got my AV with 1.08 if I remember correctly not long after they started shipping to New Zealand. Anyway I would like to take this opportunity to thank Access Virus. You guys are the greatest! The virus has been my first virtual analogue and I thought very long and hard about it. I am now so happy I bought this synth. The new 2.0 vocoder is exactly what I am looking for, am running my drum machine through it modulating some internal sounds and getting some really wicked sounds back. > >I have personally never ever seen such wonderful support from a music instrument company as Access, infact I would say that your support is far better than many people in the computer industry! It's a shame now as I'll always be comparing anyone else to Access. You guys are great! What's next? Planning anymore gear? > >Anyway I also wanted to share with the list some of my success. Recently I got together with a good friend with all the right recording gear. He helped me produce two demo tracks. The tracks used my D50, MC-303, TB-303, TR-606, SH-101, and off course the beloved Access Virus. Infact the AV had the most prominence in the tracks, due the ease of making so many different sounds. > >Well I sent my music to the main electronic music label here in New Zealand, and they called back yesterday and said they loved the tracks and that we should get together shortly and meet etc.. To top that off they played my music on their New Zeland electronic music show on the radio, which unfortunatly I missed. > >So lastly I wanted to say that I have found the Access Virus the perfect studio synth and a great live synth (in use soon...!) Access, If you ever ever need a testimonial from someone on the other side of the world don't hesitate to ask. > >Thanks for the rant! >Lukas >Auckland >New Zealand > > > j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 4 21:44:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 12:40:20 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Lukas Svoboda ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:31:57 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Lukas Svoboda ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Fri Dec 4 12:31:54 1998 >Received: from kcbbs.gen.nz (kcbbs.gen.nz [202.14.102.1]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA03417 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:31:52 -0800 Received: from lukas-p120 (as5200-09.kcbbs.gen.nz [202.14.102.39]) by kcbbs.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06942 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:24:32 +1300 (NZDT) Received: by lukas-p120 (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:31:49 +1300 >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981205093131.00e30350@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: lukashome@192.168.0.1 >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 09:31:31 +1300 >To: access-list@teklab.com >From: Lukas Svoboda Subject: Additional >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0 Unregistered > >Sorry, just wanted to add that I am also using an Jomox Xbase09 for drum sounds, and it is the perfect drum machine to go with the AV. Nice fat analogue kick and some nice hats! > >Anyone else using a Jomox Xbase09 with you Virus? > >Lukas >Auckland >New Zealand > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Ouroboros - Trance,Techno,Ambient >NZ Electronic Music - http://www.lucidworks.co.nz/ >ouroboros@lucidworks.co.nz >______________________________________________________ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 01:50:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: "(ListServ) Access Virus" Subject: OS Request Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:32:52 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness How about a mode that lets the control surface of the VIRUS act as a programmer for my Matrix modules? X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 01:33:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: "Access Virus List" Subject: still having problems with v2.0 Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:31:25 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" Ok, I got the shareware sequencer someone recommended.. Jazz... once again it got to block 20 on the virus, and then locked up everything. what is the problem here? it must not have been cubase vst. (really wanting to get the vocoder going) daniel cain terminal@xnet.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 04:11:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: dhylander@pop.mindspring.com Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 22:10:01 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Hylander Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Hylander I have both a Midi Express XT and MTP AV and have not been able to get my Virus to accept updates from either interface. My uwave II also will not update with these interfaces. I gave up trying and stuck a Ensoniq Soundscape card in my pc. It works fine to do the updates with Cubasis at 120 bpm. At 06:31 PM 12/4/98 -0600, you wrote: >* From "Terminal Bliss" > >Ok, I got the shareware sequencer someone recommended.. Jazz... once again it got to block 20 on the virus, and then locked up everything. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 12:21:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 03:25:34 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: DOPE!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com No, don't shut up. Express yourself! Marcel Engels wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From monokrom@sirius.com >> >>One the word (diction): "Dope" is out...move on. Try and be more creative with word usage for a change. > >No, I do not try to be creative with words...people talk too much about gear these days (and have beautiful words :-)). I like to be more creative with music...as I'm not much of a talker anyway. So I'll shut up :-) > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels >Email :fsp@wxs.nl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 10:11:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS Request Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 09:06:55 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:32:52 -0800, Blackstone Hamilton wrote: >How about a mode that lets the control surface of the VIRUS act as a programmer for my Matrix modules? Using a program like Cubase allows you to translate the controllers output from the Virus into other controllers or even to drive sysex commands for the Matrix. You wouldn't want to try to write something like that into the Virus OS though, would you? I think there's an example of using the Virus to control a Waldorf Pulse at my web page (Cubase mixer map) - been a while since I did it. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 11:17:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: DOPE!!! Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:19:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >One the word (diction): "Dope" is out...move on. Try and be more creative with word usage for a change. No, I do not try to be creative with words...people talk too much about gear these days (and have beautiful words :-)). I like to be more creative with music...as I'm not much of a talker anyway. So I'll shut up :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 14:13:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: DOPE!!! Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:16:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >No, don't shut up. Express yourself! ............ :-) Another thing: It seems I finally found a dealer who has the rackmount for the Virus. It's www.thomann.de. Thanks to Martin Zuther about this! Only thing is, I haven't got a reply yet...but I only send it yesterday, so could be they don't work in the weekend? Is it finally going to happen then? Will I finally get the LONG LONG awaited rackmount for the Virus???? All people know stores for these or have seen it, BUT when I contact the store they don't have it!!!!! Okay, still a happy man though... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 5 19:33:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Coagula Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:17:27 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >where can I find this program without getting somewhere where I don't understand what's written on the screen? Just look for the word Coagula and click on it, the page for the software itself is in English. There is another tool there called granulab that I have looked at but barely touched yet. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 21:07:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mz_mail@pop.gmx.de Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 02:25:42 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: argh... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >I cannot get the update to work with cubase vst 3.6 on the pc with a motu midi express xt. i was unable to do this in the past and I've never updated the synth, but now I really want to.. the problem I had with dumping sounds is nonexistant though. ive got 1.53 currently I'm using Logic Audio, but I once had the same problem. You should click yourself into "Start->System(steuerung)->Multimedia". Doubleclick on one of the MXPXT-Ports. You'll see a window showing two buttons. Click the "Settings"-one ("Einstellungen"). You'll be asked for an "auto setup". It can do no harm... ;) Then uncheck "allow multitasking during sysex" and "allow unterminated sysex". And you'd do better to use the driver 1.00. The newer ones seem to be quite corrupt. :(( I hope this works! Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 15:26:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mz_mail@pop.gmx.de Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 02:48:10 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >PC's always seam to cause a headache ...I'm glad I have a Mac. > >PC's for games, Mac's for real. Oh no, please stop this before it becomes another MAC-AGAINST-PC flamewar!!!!!! Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 14:18:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 05:23:21 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com PC's always seam to cause a headache ...I'm glad I have a Mac. PC's for games, Mac's for real. Paul Nagle wrote: >* From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) > >On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:53:47 EST, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: > >>We were told by Steinberg that Cubase VST 3.55 has a bug that it obviously stops sending SysEx data after a while. This should have been fixed for the VST 3.6. >>I will check the 3.6 in the next days. > >All versions of VST have some degree of "loosness" in handling sustained sysex transmission from data embedded in tracks. It is my understanding that it will not be totally fixed until (PC anyway) version 4.0. Any Mac users confirm that 4.0 is OK in this department? > >I always use version 3.05 for system updates and it always works fine. VST may well work but the balancing act performed by the components of your system is more delicate. > >Paul >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 10:56:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 09:51:06 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:53:47 EST, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >We were told by Steinberg that Cubase VST 3.55 has a bug that it obviously stops sending SysEx data after a while. This should have been fixed for the VST 3.6. >I will check the 3.6 in the next days. All versions of VST have some degree of "loosness" in handling sustained sysex transmission from data embedded in tracks. It is my understanding that it will not be totally fixed until (PC anyway) version 4.0. Any Mac users confirm that 4.0 is OK in this department? I always use version 3.05 for system updates and it always works fine. VST may well work but the balancing act performed by the components of your system is more delicate. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 13:36:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:33:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I have the same problem...I update to 1.58 without any problems using cubase audio XT but the 2.00 crash the system at block 62 . I've tried to use Jazz but still have the same problem @ the same place...I've also try to re-dowload the Zip file, but it still doesn't work... I'm using a MidiTimePiece AV... H E L P !! >* From "Terminal Bliss" <terminal@xnet.com> > >Ok, I got the shareware sequencer someone recommended.. Jazz... once again it got to block 20 on the virus, and then locked up everything. > >what is the problem here? it must not have been cubase vst. > >(really wanting to get the vocoder going) > >daniel cain >terminal@xnet.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 15:23:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: still having problems with v2.0 Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 15:25:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >I have the same problem...I update to 1.58 without any problems using cubase audio XT but the 2.00 crash the system at block 62 . I've tried to use Jazz but still have the same problem @ the same place...I've also try to re-dowload the Zip file, but it still doesn't work... I'm using a MidiTimePiece AV... H E L P !! Well, I have no problem with my simple soundblaster awe32 card :-) And I'm using Cubase VST 3.553. I will probably use Atari ST in the future...still the best computer for just plain simple midi...it's got the best timing and no problems whatsoever...:-))) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 02:37:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:42:23 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Okay then, let's help those with PC blues. Everyone with a tight PC configuration please send us your gear and software list to help others find a better way. Thanks! Monokrom Marcel Engels wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>I have the same problem...I update to 1.58 without any problems using cubase audio XT but the 2.00 crash the system at block 62 . I've tried to use Jazz but still have the same problem @ the same place...I've also try to re-dowload the Zip file, but it still doesn't work... I'm using a MidiTimePiece AV... H E L P !! > >Well, I have no problem with my simple soundblaster awe32 card :-) And I'm using Cubase VST 3.553. > >I will probably use Atari ST in the future...still the best computer for just plain simple midi...it's got the best timing and no problems whatsoever...:-))) > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels >Email :fsp@wxs.nl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 18:53:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: OT: still having problems with PC & Cubase Date: Sun, 6 Dec 98 18:51:52 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Yes, Mac & Logic & Unitor 8 = most stable system to get! PC & Cubase & Motu = lots of problems & untightness! Dont want to start a platform war with this, but dont wonder if you have problems while using crap! This no problem regarding the Virus or Access, it a problem of your system and IMO has nothing to do with this list. Flame me privately and keep the list clean. Ray >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >PC's always seam to cause a headache ...I'm glad I have a Mac. > >PC's for games, Mac's for real. > >Paul Nagle wrote: > >>* From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) >> >>On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:53:47 EST, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >> >>>We were told by Steinberg that Cubase VST 3.55 has a bug that it obviously stops sending SysEx data after a while. This should have been fixed for the VST 3.6. >>>I will check the 3.6 in the next days. >> >>All versions of VST have some degree of "loosness" in handling sustained sysex transmission from data embedded in tracks. It is my understanding that it will not be totally fixed until (PC anyway) version 4.0. Any Mac users confirm that 4.0 is OK in this department? >> >>I always use version 3.05 for system updates and it always works fine. VST may well work but the balancing act performed by the components of your system is more delicate. >> >>Paul >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-------------------- >>http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-------------------- >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 19:19:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Er... Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:15:15 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:23:25 -0800, Buddha wrote: >I can't seem to download that particular utility from your web page. I can double click all the others and get a dialogue box, but not on the one that I want. I just get a screen saying "s400" Any ideas? You using Netscape? I didn't zip up the file or anything and Netscape often screws files it doesn't recognise - a .mix file may be confusing. I just grabbed it using Explorer. If you continue to struggle, I'll email it to you. I should probably have zipped it. Regards, Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 20:16:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.179.6.168] From: "B. Hamilton" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS Request Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 11:15:32 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamilton" >How about a mode that lets the control surface of the VIRUS act as a programmer for my Matrix modules? Using a program like Cubase allows you to translate the controllers output from the Virus into other controllers or even to drive sysex commands for the Matrix. You wouldn't want to try to write something like that into the Virus OS though, would you? I think there's an example of using the Virus to control a Waldorf Pulse at my web page (Cubase mixer map) - been a while since I did it. Paul I've never tried using Cubase for this purpose, and as it is I haven't reinstalled it since I reinstalled my OS to blank hard drives. I had all sorts of hell with Cubase VST with it locking up the whole OS whenever trying to update the VIRUS (which always failed). I would get other lockups and now have reservations about installing it since CW Pro Audio is running nicely. I DO actually think it would be handy to be able to use the VIRUS as a programmer. After all, Access makes the Matrix Programmer which uses a similar control surface. They've already coded all of the SysEx so it shouldn't be a big deal to port that to the VIRUS OS. I wouldn't even mind if the VIRUS could only act as the VIRUS OR as the Matrix Programmer. Given how fast the machine boots up, I wouldn't mind if I had to reboot it to get it into the other mode. On boot up, you could hold down 4 buttons to get it into that mode, whatever. I'd even be willing to pay moderate amount for this special OS since I would be in the minority of VIRUS users. Say $25-$30. At any rate, this is just a suggestion which I hadn't seen posted to the list. I don't think it's any more outlandish than adding a vocoder. I do know there are Matrix owners on the list who also have a VIRUS. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 00:29:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 15:16:33 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I DO actually think it would be handy to be able to use the VIRUS as a programmer. After all, Access makes the Matrix Programmer which uses a similar control surface. They've already coded all of the SysEx so it shouldn't be a big deal to port that to the VIRUS OS. > Yeah, I personally would *love* to have a programmer for my Matrix. I've considered buying the Access one, but it's too expensive here in the US, and very hard to find too. If any of the Access people are reading this - could you e-mail me with details on how to get a programmer from you guys directly? I know it'd be a bit tricky to do the Matrix programmer in the Virus, so in the meantime if I can find a dedicated one for a good price, I'll buy it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 00:44:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: Subject: Re: still having problems with PC & Cubase Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:42:52 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" >Yes, Mac & Logic & Unitor 8 = most stable system to get! > >PC & Cubase & Motu = lots of problems & untightness! > >Dont want to start a platform war with this, but dont wonder if you have problems while using crap! This no problem regarding the Virus or Access, it a problem of your system and IMO has nothing to do with this list. this is totally untrue. i have completely wicked timing between my midi and audio parts on my pc system. the ONLY problem I have ever had in regards to sending stuff is with the access virus synth updates as well as sending and recieving patches. initially christopher kemper of access told me the problem for the patches was the virus, and I must unplug my out port when sending or recieving.. but that doesnt explain why it locks up at a certain part for the sysex in the system update now. it has to do with the virus and problems of it, if you aren't interested, i had it in the damn title, just delete the file. i dont think its too much to ask that someone hits a DEL key when they see a topic that doesnt relate to their system. its what i do whenever i see mac stuff. daniel cain terminal@xnet.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 19:13:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: still having problems with PC & Cubase Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 01:51:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" Am I the only one to think that both PC's and Mac's aren't the most suitable devices for making music? Jay V. had a nice list, that I kept, because it was so funny: Jay's Scale of User Interface Usability for Sequencing while Writing Music: Device: Score (out of 100) ---------------------- --------------------- QY700 keyboard 100 IBM PC Keyboard 80 MS Natural Keyboard 60 Two sticks and a big rock 50 Mud 45 Jackhammer 20 Mouse + GUI 0.000005 Well, what can you say? :-) - Peter -----Original Message----- From: Terminal Bliss To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 07 December 1998 00:53 Subject: Re: still having problems with PC & Cubase >* From "Terminal Bliss" > >>Yes, Mac & Logic & Unitor 8 = most stable system to get! >> >>PC & Cubase & Motu = lots of problems & untightness! >> >>Dont want to start a platform war with this, but dont wonder if you have problems while using crap! This no problem regarding the Virus or Access, it a problem of your system and IMO has nothing to do with this list. > > >this is totally untrue. i have completely wicked timing between my midi and audio parts on my pc system. the ONLY problem I have ever had in regards to sending stuff is with the access virus synth updates as well as sending and recieving patches. initially christopher kemper of access told me the problem for the patches was the virus, and I must unplug my out port when sending or recieving.. but that doesnt explain why it locks up at a certain part for the sysex in the system update now. > >it has to do with the virus and problems of it, if you aren't interested, i had it in the damn title, just delete the file. i dont think its too much to >ask that someone hits a DEL key when they see a topic that doesnt relate to their system. its what i do whenever i see mac stuff. > >daniel cain >terminal@xnet.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 6 18:25:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:23:25 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Er... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha Hi Paul, I can't seem to download that particular utility from your web page. I can double click all the others and get a dialogue box, but not on the one that I want. I just get a screen saying "s400" Any ideas? Bilbo Bagginz >Using a program like Cubase allows you to translate the controllers output from the Virus into other controllers or even to drive sysex commands for the Matrix. You wouldn't want to try to write something like that into the Virus OS though, would you? I think there's an example of using the Virus to control a Waldorf Pulse at my web page (Cubase mixer map) - been a while since I did it. Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 11:11:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 02:05:42 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: Re: Block Diagram programme. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla >* From Dimitri S > >I'd like to make a scheme in which every function of the virus is described: All functions in the OSC section, the filter section, the Amp-EG., the LFO's, the effects, etc. I want to write down things like sysex code and controller information next to it too. I need a programm to assist me with this, are there any suggestions? > >I know there is a scheme of the filter routings, but that's just a very small part, so, does anybody know a block-diagram programme? > >Dimitri. > >Dimitri- LOOK FOR A PROGRAMM CALLED"MINI-CAD" DM ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ NORTH AMERICAN PRODUCT SUPPORT FOR WALDORF AND ACCESS PRODUCTS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 10:44:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS Request Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 09:37:07 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Sun, 06 Dec 1998 11:15:32 PST, "B. Hamilton" wrote: >I DO actually think it would be handy to be able to use the VIRUS as a programmer. After all, Access makes the Matrix Programmer which uses a similar control surface. They've already coded all of the SysEx so it shouldn't be a big deal to port that to the VIRUS OS. I was only thinking that everything costs in terms of OS space and to use this memory for something to be used only by a few people would not make sense. Especially when these people can buy Access' Matrix programmer already if they need it. There are still features that people want in the Virus itself which should take precedence. Otherwise (e.g.) Microwave owners will then want to save money buying Access' Microwave programmer and have the code written into this synth. A fair point? Personally, I didn't have any need for another vocoder but at least it gives options everyone can use if they choose. Maybe something that would be of benefit to more people would be the ability to re-allocate the controller numbers of the Virus so we didn't need computers to redirect them to control other synths that use them. Comments? Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 12:17:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:16:01 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform I've been using (abusing!!) the Virus to control Rebirth V2.0 for quite some time. It's very good for that sort of thing too. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 12:38:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Re: beginner problem Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:01:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Make sure you uncheck 'Midi sysex record' in the Midi Filter box in the options menu, that may fix your problem. Dimitri II >* From Meister <alexander.renner@univie.ac.at> > >Downloading uprades is no problem, but I cannot store my sounds on cubase. Cubase get some midi datas but doesn´t record them. I record the midi transfer all and then there is nothing on cubase. >I´m shure i´m making some very simple mistake - but which one???????? > >thanx for help > >alex > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 12:37:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Mac vs PC Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:22:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" The list is also here to help people who has problems with their systems, not only to say that Mac is the best and PC sucks ! Everybody is in the same bag, we all love the Virus and want to have it rollin' Cheers Dimitri Yes, Mac & Logic & Unitor 8 = most stable system to get! PC & Cubase & Motu = lots of problems & untightness! Dont want to start a platform war with this, but dont wonder if you have problems while using crap! This no problem regarding the Virus or Access, it a problem of your system and IMO has nothing to do with this list. Flame me privately and keep the list clean. Ray ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 10:55:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:59:58 +0000 From: Meister Organization: Institute of Immunology To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: beginner problem Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Meister Downloading uprades is no problem, but I cannot store my sounds on cubase. Cubase get some midi datas but doesn´t record them. I record the midi transfer all and then there is nothing on cubase. I´m shure i´m making some very simple mistake - but which one???????? thanx for help alex ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 14:34:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Mike478640@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:31:51 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: SPANISH VIRUS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mike478640@aol.com hello list am I THE ONLY ONE?? that loves the virus and hablo espanol? ......solo una pequena pregunta. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 16:59:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:59:19 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Until recently, it was possible to take a short cut to patch A0, B0 or M0 (depending on what mode you were in) by pressing the up/down buttons simultaneously. I'm not sure if this feature was documented, but I used to use it regularly. What happened?? ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 16:13:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jester's Tears" To: Subject: Re: beginner problem Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:13:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jester's Tears" Hallo Alex, Du musst in Cubase bei deinen Midi-Filter Einstellungen SYSEX zum Empfang, und beim zurˆºckˆºberttragen in Deinen Virus, auch beim Senden aktivieren (diese sind meistens deaktiviert!!!), dann klappt's auch mit dem Nachbarn... ...keep on rocking!!! Willi Schneider (Jester's Tears) http://user.exit.de/jesterstears -----Ursprˆºngliche Nachricht----- Von: Meister An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Montag, 7. Dezember 1998 12:04 Betreff: beginner problem >’ÄÁâÜʵؔ¥ÝÊ€€Áë„Á–ƒÝʱ°Á°€Ê¼°Ê戮¼¾Êï¾Ê¼ÆÁâ€ÁïÄÊ€ÆÊ€’¼€Êç°ÊÑÆ“¼¥ý®çý®çʇÑʼ…ʇ¨Êë°Ê¼©’ÅßÁŵÊÖ¾Ê戮ńÁç©Ê½Ý’ÅØÁâƒÊâØÊ晴±‚ÊàÝÁëµ”§ÝÊåÝʼ°Ê‡Æ’Å¥Áë„ÁâØ’Å€Á€‚ÁåÝÁïØÊëƒńʼØÊåÝÊâµÁç°’¼€ý®çÁïÉÊÖ¢Êï„ÊúÝÁë€ÁåÝʵؒŀʀ‚Ê€§ÊêÝÁë° Áç°ÊàÝÁëµÊêÝÊïØʼ„Áí¥ÁàÝÊç€Áâؒŧʰ¥Êµ€’ÄÆ’ÅâÊï¾Ê‡£Êë¾ÁêÝÊï®Ê¥ÝÊë©’Å©Áâ¥Ê¼°Êô„Áâ€ÊÑÝʱ¨ý®çʼ°’ŧʰ¥Ê¼€ÁêÝÊï®Êï¾Ê§Ý’ńʇÆÊ°¥Ê¼©’ÅßʼØÊåÝÊâµÁç°’¼€ý®çÎëâ’Å‚Ê°„Áâµ’Å€Îë©’Å‚ÊÖ‚Ê€´ÊùÆÁåÝʵؒŀÊïÁ€¾ÁåÝʵ©Ê±ƒ’ŀʀ‚Áë„Ê‚°’Å€’Ä‚Áťʰ… Ê穒Ůʼؓ‡€“ºø“ºø“ºøý¥øý¥äÁêäÊÖ®Á°ÆÊòÝÁâØÊÝÝʱ€ýµƒý¥äÊÑäÊï¨ýµ½ý¥äºä‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡ü‡üý®çÊ°î’Å€ÊçÅÊï£Áç„ÂåÝʼ¼Ê°¥”êÝÁç©Áï£Áç„ʇ©’ÅÆÊÖ‚ ʱ©Ê¼©’ÅßÊ€¨Áë„ʧݒń’Å°Áâ¶Êï€ÁåÝÁâ€Ê€Êï£ÊºÝ’ŶÊïî”±´ÊⰒĨʼ°ýµ§Ê§ä’Å„ÁÅØʼ€ÁêÝ’ÅØʱ°’ŨÊï‚Êâ‚Á‒ńÊôØÁêÝÊï®”§ÝÁëÆÁâ€Êïƒťʇ£Êµ‚ʼµÁë©’¼¼’ÄÝÊ°î’Å€”ÖÜ’Åëʇ¶’žʰ¥Áç©ÊƒÝÁç©’Å¥Áç©ý®çÁô°Ê€°Ê֨ʱ¢’Å€Áâ¶ÊµØÊÝÝÁ륓©ƒ’ºØÁù…’¼…Áï‚ʼ€ Áë„Áâ€ÊêÆ’‡€Êçæʼ°Ê¼©’‡€Ê€Áï¾’‡„’¥ÝÁÄÝÊï¨Áç°’Å€Êï¾Êë°Ê§Ý’Ö¥ý®ç ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 17:57:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:56:55 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: beginner problem Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >Du musst in Cubase bei deinen Midi-Filter Einstellungen SYSEX zum >Empfang, und beim zur¸ck¸berttragen in Deinen Virus, auch beim Senden >aktivieren (diese sind meistens deaktiviert!!!), dann klappt's auch mit dem Nachbarn... Aha! Now everyone on the list knows what to do when confronted with a similar problem. Hubschrauberlandeplatzbesichtigungstermin !! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 16:57:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Having problems with PC - LISTEN UP! Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:02:39 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Just use the MediaPlayer or ActiveMovie if you have a windows system. Before you run the file, use the Control Panel, Multimedia. Select the MIDI tab and select the default port. Press OK. Since the OS is in MIDI spec 0, the Media Player has no problems sending the data. This works for me every time. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 6:52 AM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: Having problems with PC >> >> >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >> >> >>>So...is there any way for us to solve this problem? >>>Like I said before I didn't have any problems updating to >>1.58 but in the >>2. >>>00 the sequencer (either Cubase or Jazz) stop to send data >>@ block 62 for me >>>and crash the PC most of the time. >>>U can E-mail privately @ D_Tikovoi@Classic.msn.com Cheers >> >> >>The OS midi-file could be cut into two or more section to fit into your >>sequencer. >>Users that have the problem, that the update stops at a certain point (e.g. >>VST) could try the following: >> >>1. Load the 'first200.mid' or 'secon200.mid' into the sequencer. 2. Cut the part that included the data into two or more sections with about >>equal length. Don't worry about the exact cutting point, the sequencer will >>never cut a single sysex message into pieces or so. 3. Save this file as .mid or as song or arrangement under a different name. >>4. Erase the last sections of parts so that you only keep the first section. >>5. Set the Virus ready to receive the OS download. 6. Playback this section of the download. The Virus will *freeze* at the end >>of this part, that means it keeps waiting for more data. 7. Reload the OS file, that you just saved. 8. Erase all sections of the part exept the second. 9. Playback the second section. >>10. and so on. >> >> >>Please advise if this makes the download work on your systems. Thanks. >> >>Christoph Kemper >>access music >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 17:43:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:45:38 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: Having problems with PC To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt I've had the same problem with cubase but I succeeded to update the virus to 2.0 with activemovie player. Hope this won't cause any problems?!? ---CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > > >>So...is there any way for us to solve this problem? >>Like I said before I didn't have any problems updating to 1.58 but in the >2. >>00 the sequencer (either Cubase or Jazz) stop to send data @ block 62 for me >>and crash the PC most of the time. >>U can E-mail privately @ D_Tikovoi@Classic.msn.com Cheers > > >The OS midi-file could be cut into two or more section to fit into your >sequencer. >Users that have the problem, that the update stops at a certain point (e.g. >VST) could try the following: > >1. Load the 'first200.mid' or 'secon200.mid' into the sequencer. 2. Cut the part that included the data into two or more sections with about >equal length. Don't worry about the exact cutting point, the sequencer will >never cut a single sysex message into pieces or so. 3. Save this file as .mid or as song or arrangement under a different name. >4. Erase the last sections of parts so that you only keep the first section. >5. Set the Virus ready to receive the OS download. 6. Playback this section of the download. The Virus will *freeze* at the end >of this part, that means it keeps waiting for more data. 7. Reload the OS file, that you just saved. 8. Erase all sections of the part exept the second. 9. Playback the second section. >10. and so on. > > >Please advise if this makes the download work on your systems. Thanks. > >Christoph Kemper >access music > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 17:48:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OS Request Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:54:02 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness It was a nice dream while it lasted. Guess I'll have to load up VST and hope it doesn't start messing up my Windows installation again. Maybe I can do the same trick with Cakewalk's StudioWare. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 6:52 AM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: OS Request >> >> >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >> >> >>>>I DO actually think it would be handy to be able to use >>the VIRUS as a >>>>programmer. After all, Access makes the Matrix >>Programmer which uses a >>>>similar control surface. They've already coded all of >>the SysEx so it >>>>shouldn't be a big deal to port that to the VIRUS OS. >> >>Actually, to do a Matrix Programmer or a free programmer on the Virus looks >>really simple at first sight, but requires a lot of memory space for programs >>and tables, that we don't have at the right places. Sorry, the Vocoder was much easier, 'cause we simply had enough space on the >>DSP side. >> >>Ciao >>Christoph Kemper >>access music >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 18:54:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 09:52:20 -0800 From: b-La-roc To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Vocoder Technique. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From b-La-roc Dear List, Hi ... i am having some difficulties getting the sound i want using the vocoder and i wonder if any of you guys and girls could help me with some technique. I have always wanted a vocoder because i love the sounds that i belive can come them. However, i always thought that i would know what to do when i got hold of one and sadly it seems that i dont. I am trying to get a good vocal sound using the vocoder a sound that i have heard on some funk records .. some r&b and hip hop too .... the artist is usually singing. I always thought that this should be acheived by singing or speaking a phrase holding the same note and then using the carrier to change the pitch and to give it texture. ... but i dont quite get what i want there .... do you think i should be singing the melody as normal and then changing the texture only with the carrier ? Would anyone like to share their technique for vocoding vocals or anything else 4 that matter ? Thanks Barney. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 19:04:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jester's Tears" To: Subject: Re: beginner problem Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:04:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jester's Tears" Hi LOWLIFEFORM, I am sorry, that I have answered this guy in German, but Dimitri TIKOVOI already replied to the "beginner problem" in English. So anybody (?are there just English and German speaking people on the list ?;-)) should be able to find help. Again sorry for this, but I think for the guy with the "problem" it was easier to have an answer in German, too. ...keep on rocking!!! Willi Schneider (Jester's Tears) http://www.jesters-tears.de -----Ursprˆºngliche Nachricht----- Von: lowlifeform An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Montag, 7. Dezember 1998 18:08 Betreff: Re: beginner problem >* From lowlifeform > >>Du musst in Cubase bei deinen Midi-Filter Einstellungen SYSEX zum >Empfang, >>und beim zurck berttragen in Deinen Virus, auch beim Senden >aktivieren (diese sind meistens deaktiviert!!!), dann klappt's auch mit dem Nachbarn... > >Aha! Now everyone on the list knows what to do when confronted with a similar problem. Hubschrauberlandeplatzbesichtigungstermin !! > > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 19:47:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Date: Mon, 7 Dec 98 19:51:21 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" , "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer b-La-roc wrote: >* From b-La-roc > >Dear List, > >Hi ... i am having some difficulties getting the sound i want using the vocoder and i wonder if any of you guys and girls could help me with some technique. > >I have always wanted a vocoder because i love the sounds that i belive can come them. However, i always thought that i would know what to do when i got hold of one and sadly it seems that i dont. > >I am trying to get a good vocal sound using the vocoder a sound that i have heard on some funk records .. some r&b and hip hop too .... the artist is usually singing. > >I always thought that this should be acheived by singing or speaking a phrase holding the same note and then using the carrier to change the pitch and to give it texture. ... but i dont quite get what i want there .... do you think i should be singing the melody as normal and then changing the texture only with the carrier ? You can sing ANY melody (it wont affect the output signal very much), but you have to play the melody with the carrier signal! Remeber: the Modulator only picks up the formants for modulating the carrier. Perhaps the sound that is oftem heard in the moment on R&B stuff is made by a so called _Talk-Box_ (or mouth-box). It works different to a vocoder: a melody is played by a keyboard. The keyboard is plugged to an amplifier. The output of the amplifier is connected to the talk-box. Inside the talk-box, there is kind of a little speaker which is connected to a plastic tube. They keyboard player takes this tube in his mouth and forms the words, while the (very loud) keyboard sound is screaming through his mouth and is giving the words to the melody. A well knows example is _I wanna be your man_ from ..... ahhh (forgot it....). Was it this sound you were expecting? RAy ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 19:47:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Date: Mon, 7 Dec 98 19:51:21 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" , "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer b-La-roc wrote: >* From b-La-roc > >Dear List, > >Hi ... i am having some difficulties getting the sound i want using the vocoder and i wonder if any of you guys and girls could help me with some technique. > >I have always wanted a vocoder because i love the sounds that i belive can come them. However, i always thought that i would know what to do when i got hold of one and sadly it seems that i dont. > >I am trying to get a good vocal sound using the vocoder a sound that i have heard on some funk records .. some r&b and hip hop too .... the artist is usually singing. > >I always thought that this should be acheived by singing or speaking a phrase holding the same note and then using the carrier to change the pitch and to give it texture. ... but i dont quite get what i want there .... do you think i should be singing the melody as normal and then changing the texture only with the carrier ? You can sing ANY melody (it wont affect the output signal very much), but you have to play the melody with the carrier signal! Remeber: the Modulator only picks up the formants for modulating the carrier. Perhaps the sound that is oftem heard in the moment on R&B stuff is made by a so called _Talk-Box_ (or mouth-box). It works different to a vocoder: a melody is played by a keyboard. The keyboard is plugged to an amplifier. The output of the amplifier is connected to the talk-box. Inside the talk-box, there is kind of a little speaker which is connected to a plastic tube. They keyboard player takes this tube in his mouth and forms the words, while the (very loud) keyboard sound is screaming through his mouth and is giving the words to the melody. A well knows example is _I wanna be your man_ from ..... ahhh (forgot it....). Was it this sound you were expecting? RAy ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 20:19:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Vocoder Technique. Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:24:40 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Try droning the the vocal at a constant pitch instead of singing the melody or just talking. Vocoders usually gate the carrier on input from the modulator. Meaning, if there's nothing coming from the modulator the synth sound is silent. The env followers usually do better if the modulator note is sustained and shaped into words. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: b-La-roc [mailto:b.la.rock@lineone.net] Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 9:52 AM >>To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >>Subject: Vocoder Technique. >> >> >>* From b-La-roc >> >>Dear List, >> >>Hi ... i am having some difficulties getting the sound i want using the >>vocoder and i wonder if any of you guys and girls could help me with some technique. >> >>I have always wanted a vocoder because i love the sounds that i belive >>can come them. However, i always thought that i would know what to do >>when i got hold of one and sadly it seems that i dont. >> >>I am trying to get a good vocal sound using the vocoder a sound that i >>have heard on some funk records .. some r&b and hip hop too .... the artist is usually singing. >> >>I always thought that this should be acheived by singing or speaking a >>phrase holding the same note and then using the carrier to change the pitch and to give it texture. ... but i dont quite get what i want there >>.... do you think i should be singing the melody as normal and then changing the texture only with the carrier ? >> >>Would anyone like to share their technique for vocoding vocals or anything else 4 that matter ? >> >>Thanks >> >>Barney. >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 21:24:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:23:10 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Lukas Svoboda ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! No, but I heard it's a great machine? Is it really analogue, or virtual analogue? And does the sequencer in it work on other things as well, e.g. a... virus? It would be cool to have just two boxes and no PC... Dimitri >>From: Lukas Svoboda Sorry, just wanted to add that I am also using an Jomox Xbase09 for drum sounds, and it is the perfect drum machine to go with the AV. Nice fat analogue kick and some nice hats! >> >>Anyone else using a Jomox Xbase09 with you Virus? >> >>Lukas >>Auckland >>New Zealand ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 21:36:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:35:23 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 05:23 6-12-98 +0000, you wrote: >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >PC's always seam to cause a headache ...I'm glad I have a Mac. > >PC's for games, Mac's for real. No, you're confusing Win95 with a PC. A PC is fine, the OS is wrong. Use Linux with the proper hardware, and you have REAL multitasking, under a real os. Try Jazz for linux or some other programmes. There might be a possibility to run linux on a mac with a nice soundprogramme... Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 21:56:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:55:17 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Waaaa! The Vocoder! (RE: Go To www.tsi-gmbh.de NOW!!!) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! That would be great if the virus-developpers would come to the meeting too! But train your liver though... i think I am not the only one to buy you a Guiness or two... Look at the homepage of the meeting on http://145.99.128.7/evp. We're going to a coffee shop to have a nice cup of coffee, or something else. What everybody's going to take there, you can see on the EVP page. We don't know yet when it will happen, we'll have to find out. We're also bringing our Virusses and are going to make some noise. :-) If you want, you can subscribe to the meeting by sending me a mail at di-mi@dds.nl and filling in the next: name: e-mail: URL (hompepage): at the meeting I will take: (Guiness I guess??) what everybody should know about me: Of course, everybody can subscribe! Even if you're not European, though it's called the Eruopean Virus Posse. Dimitri. At 20:11 6-12-98 EST, you wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > > >>This is great, access guys! >>I'll buy you another Guiness! >>Say, why don't you come to the Virus meeting too!? Look at http://145.99.128.7/evp (server may be down sometimes... hope to fix this soon) >> >>Dimitri. > >Great idea, we will come to the meeting. It's only a two hours ride from our place. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 22:08:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:06:56 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I know an other technique for this, but i guess it' not very convenient, esecially for a performance, but it works fine in a silent studio: Send the output of your synth (or effect send on you mixing console to... the ear-dopps of a cheap walkman. Turn little peaces of plastic around them with tape or something like that because the little 'speakers' are going to get wet: You have to put them in your mouth. Then use a microphone to pick up the signal (effect return to mic input of you'r mixing console), and you have a cheap solution for this effect. Especially when you don't want to use it all the time. It doesn't sound appealing, but ik works great! Ooops, i just told a secret... Dimitri. At 19:51 7-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >Perhaps the sound that is oftem heard in the moment on R&B stuff is made by a so called _Talk-Box_ (or mouth-box). It works different to a vocoder: a melody is played by a keyboard. The keyboard is plugged to an amplifier. The output of the amplifier is connected to the talk-box. Inside the talk-box, there is kind of a little speaker which is connected to a plastic tube. They keyboard player takes this tube in his mouth and forms the words, while the (very loud) keyboard sound is screaming through his mouth and is giving the words to the melody. A well knows example is _I wanna be your man_ from ..... ahhh (forgot it....). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 23:15:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:27:58 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: !**picNIC**! Subject: Voco and list... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From !**picNIC**! I really believe in miracles now! A Voco.... maaaaan!!! I sold my MAM VF11 to get the Virus and now I have both and even more....! GREAAAT!! PS: ah, Jay, I still get messages from the list which are not filtered, how is the right adress now for the list? And what do I set into the filter box?! I haven't got it yet... Sorry! AND THE BIGGEST THX TO ACCESS / CHRISTOPH!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 23:10:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: OS Request Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:29:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >Actually, to do a Matrix Programmer or a free programmer on the Virus looks really simple at first sight, but requires a lot of memory space for programs >and tables, that we don't have at the right places. Sorry, the Vocoder was much easier, 'cause we simply had enough space on the >DSP side. Just out of curiousity (hope this isn't a FAQ, though I doubt it is), what kind of CPU/MPU and DSP does the Virus use? Do you mainly use off-the-shelve components, or are there a lot of custom ASICs? - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 23:11:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: beginner problem Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:34:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From lowlifeform > >>Du musst in Cubase bei deinen Midi-Filter Einstellungen SYSEX zum >Empfang, >>und beim zurücküberttragen in Deinen Virus, auch beim Senden >aktivieren (diese sind meistens deaktiviert!!!), dann klappt's auch mit dem Nachbarn... > >Aha! Now everyone on the list knows what to do when confronted with a similar problem. >Hubschrauberlandeplatzbesichtigungstermin !! Hey, keep it on-topic: Analogsynthesizeremulierungskasten. :-) - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 7 22:44:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:43:32 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Ways to use the vocoder. Re: thoughts about the vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Well, I connected my Yamaha MR-10 Drumbox, which could do a nice job on my grandfather's organ, but since I don't have a grandfather, and he doesn't have an organ... :-) I connected it to my Virus, and added some vocoder, chorus and echo... The result is to hear at my homepage from tuesday (in 12 hours) at http://145.99.128.7/dimi and is called wang (3d virus experiment) It's kinda freaky, minimal, and it's quite big.... The virst use of the vocoder, so if somebody has suggestoins what I could do more with it..... I think a vocoder can make great sounds of simple drums. (Try a mic under a thin cussion!) Dimitri. >Talking about other signals: It would be interesting to hear what other signals you all perform with the vocoder and what settings you used. > > >Spread the bands > >Christoph Kemper >access music ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 02:43:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:16:38 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: cubase virus utility Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha (regarding cubase utility that allows editing of Waldorf pulse from Virus front panel.) Yep, I'm using Netscape. I'll try downloading using Explorer and I'll let you know if I need it e-mailed. (I appreciate the offer.) Bilbo Bagginz >I can't seem to download that particular utility from your web page. I can double click all the others >and get a dialogue box, but not on the one that I want. I just get a screen saying "s400" >Any ideas? You using Netscape? I didn't zip up the file or anything and Netscape often screws files it doesn't recognise - a .mix file may be confusing. I just grabbed it using Explorer. If you continue to struggle, I'll email it to you. I should probably have zipped it. Regards, Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 02:05:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 17:10:18 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com That's right... Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >At 05:23 6-12-98 +0000, you wrote: >>* From monokrom@sirius.com >> >>PC's always seam to cause a headache ...I'm glad I have a Mac. >> >>PC's for games, Mac's for real. >No, you're confusing Win95 with a PC. A PC is fine, the OS is wrong. Use Linux with >the proper hardware, and you have REAL multitasking, under a real os. Try Jazz for linux or some other programmes. There might be a possibility to run linux on a mac with a nice soundprogramme... > >Dimitri. > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 03:32:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 18:28:10 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >BTW: Although there are people that don't believe it, the 56303 is still more powerful than the newly presented SHARC processor :) > Bah! I don't believe it! :) But I defer to your experience -- perhaps if you have the time you could fill us in on the differences and where the Mot does better than the SHARC? This is a topic that fascinates me! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 09:14:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:12:51 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >Is it a powerful function to get directly to program 0 by one hit? Well, I got used to using it and was rather surprised when it suddenly wasn't there anymore. I had assumed this feature was supplied as an alternative to the classic roll-around (A127 <-> A0). I will get by without it :-) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 09:42:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Virus in real life Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:42:07 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: CKe9644719@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: dinsdag 8 december 1998 3:01 Onderwerp: Re: Vocoder Technique. |* From CKe9644719@aol.com | | |> Perhaps the sound that is oftem heard in the moment on R&B stuff is made |> by a so called _Talk-Box_ (or mouth-box). It works different to a |> vocoder: a melody is played by a keyboard. The keyboard is plugged to an |> amplifier. The output of the amplifier is connected to the talk-box. | |BTW: I actually heard that if you use a talk box for a couple years, your |teeth can fall out because they get loose by the heavy vibrations of the talk |box speaker. But life is dangerous anyway :) | |Christoph I have heard that after buying the Virus you will have to visit the doktor because of addiction and a painfull arm of turning these knops. Also other synthesizers in the studio do complain about less attention and are agressive (some even quit playing). Off topic? |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 10:23:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:21:57 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht >No, you're confusing Win95 with a PC. A PC is fine, the OS is wrong. Use Linux with the proper hardware, and you have REAL multitasking, under >a real os. Try Jazz for linux or some other programmes. There might be a >possibility to run linux on a mac with a nice soundprogramme... nono. since the IBM AT every new intel cpu is crippled from the start - ask a freak in processor design for details ( A5!!!) or mail me privately. when intel had its 8088, motorola was way in front with their 68000. so, best processor architecture would be the PowerPC (where IBM did their usual mistakes & games) for people like me that can only spend a certain amount for hardware. linux is nice for servers, but at home & for my wife (when she has to write a letter) i really need the MacOS GUI had makes my tasks easier and more intuitive, especially with software i use only now and then. also, where are the Pro Tools for linux? where is professional software for people who make money with what they do? for playing around i can use an Atari or Amiga, too. where is a thing like Opcode/IRCAM Max on linux? they do not even have a DTP software there... regards .g.a. P.S.: working with computers (IBM-comp., Apple, Mainframes) for 15 years now i feel compelled to say what i think out of this experience, and Mac is really better... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 10:52:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Date: Tue, 8 Dec 98 10:51:16 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > > >>Perhaps the sound that is oftem heard in the moment on R&B stuff is made >>by a so called _Talk-Box_ (or mouth-box). It works different to a vocoder: a melody is played by a keyboard. The keyboard is plugged to an amplifier. The output of the amplifier is connected to the talk-box. > >BTW: I actually heard that if you use a talk box for a couple years, your teeth can fall out because they get loose by the heavy vibrations of the talk box speaker. But life is dangerous anyway :) Yes - a friend of mine lost 2 fillings :-(= But this won´t happen while playing with the vocoder ;-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 22:40:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened ? Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:18:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I used to hate it regulary, when I did the fast-scroll through the programs holding one Value button and pressing the other. Often I ended at A0 even though I was scolling up. >Is it a powerful function to get directly to program 0 by one hit? Personally, I don't think so. However, I would like to see a better way of pinpointing *any* sounds by holding down Multi or Single and turning the Value knob - I've mentioned this before. BTW: "Chase" is very useful. Keep up the good work! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 11:50:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:39:25 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner >Just out of curiousity (hope this isn't a FAQ, though I doubt it is), what kind of CPU/MPU and DSP does the Virus use? Do you mainly use off-the-shelve components, or are there a lot of custom ASICs? > >- Peter > We use very high integrated VLSI. For example: When turning the Shape-knob to SQUARE, you're listening to a NE556 Timer, turning the knob to 12 o'clock-position you're listening it after integrating the signal with a uA741 OP and the 64 waves are generated with a ISD1416, well known from "digital" call-reply-machines. Although these are IC's for analog-circuits we call the virus virtuell-analog - don't ask ME why! I havn't found out yet... Jörg Meißner access TIP: This is not a really serious E-Mail! Sorry Peter ;) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 11:50:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:46:58 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner At 15:59 07.12.98, you wrote: >* From lowlifeform > >Until recently, it was possible to take a short cut to patch A0, B0 or M0 (depending on what mode you were in) by pressing the up/down buttons simultaneously. I'm not sure if this feature was documented, but I used to use it regularly. What happened?? > This feature was removed in V2.0. You may reach the minimum value with this sequence (no matter where you are): Press [Value-] and hold it Press [Value+] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value-] -> YOU REACHED MINIMAL VALUE !!! And of course: Press [Value+] and hold it Press [Value-] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value+] -> YOU REACHED MAXIMAL VALUE !!! Isn't it a great feature???? :) Jörg Meißner access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 13:13:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:08:43 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, >We have a little microcontroller as the hostprocessor, that is actually to small to handle a Microwave / Matrix remote :) I don't understand why so many people want Access to make the Virus a programmer for other synths. Why don't the users do it theirselves ? It's very easy !!! The Virus sends controllers, right ? Well, in Emagic Logic, you can make an environment. Make a fader for every knob on the Virus. The input of the fader should be the controller which the Virus sends and the output should be the controller or SysEx you want to send to the other synth. Voila, now you can use your Virus to remote-control your other synth ! :-) Ciao, Joeri >>BTW: Although there are people that don't believe it, the 56303 is still more powerful than the newly presented SHARC processor :) >Bah! I don't believe it! :) >But I defer to your experience -- perhaps if you have the time you could fill us in on the differences and where the Mot does better than the SHARC? >This is a topic that fascinates me! ??? I thought Creamware was telling people that they use "the" ultimate processor ?!? I'm highly interested in some facts as well !!! ;-) -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 18:01:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:59:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Ahaa! Yes! Very practical!!! >And of course: >Press [Value+] and hold it >Press [Value-] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value+] -> YOU REACHED MAXIMAL VALUE !!! > >Isn't it a great feature???? :) > >Jörg Meißner >access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 18:08:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:04:11 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Looking for Virus-users in Finland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen 1. Please, stop this "PC-MAC" and vocoder YES - vocoder NO type of thing. 2. I would like to know if anybody else from Finland uses Virus. I bought mine from a friend who lives in USA and I feel a bit lonely having this great synth. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 18:51:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: digix@pop.internal.mindspring.com Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:48:43 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: LFO Subject: Re: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From LFO Is it possible we could see this feature put back in an upcoming OS version? It seems that I'm not the only one who found it quite useful.... Not to mention that the manual does make reference to it.... LFO > >Ahaa! Yes! Very practical!!! >>And of course: >>Press [Value+] and hold it >>Press [Value-] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value+] -> YOU REACHED MAXIMAL VALUE !!! >> >>Isn't it a great feature???? :) >> >>Jörg Meißner >>access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 20:40:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:39:16 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Contoured Sync - (if I ask nicely enough?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Hi Synthiheads! Has anyone heard of a synth called the Moog Rogue? This was one of the simplest and cheapest synths ever made by good old Uncle Bob. But it had one feature which made it unique. This feature was called "Contoured Sync". Yes, you've guessed right, the amount, or strength of the oscillator sync could be modulated by the envelope generator. Apparently, it is a very exciting and unusual effect. Now, it has been mentioned that more modulation facilities (even a matrix??) will eventually be incorporated into the Virus, and I would like to respectfully suggest that "Sync Amount" be considered as one of the possible mod. destinations. Please! LoLife. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 20:52:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:51:12 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Wow! The new solution is brilliant. Just tried it out. Now you can JUMP straight up to 127 or LEAP right down to 0 really quick. Excellent! LoLife. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 21:00:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:49:08 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 02:48 AM 12/6/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From Martin Zuther > >>PC's always seam to cause a headache ...I'm glad I have a Mac. >> >>PC's for games, Mac's for real. > >Oh no, please stop this before it becomes another MAC-AGAINST-PC flamewar!!!!!! > No. It's fun. My take: QY-series sequencers for music. Okay, just kidding. I agree. Platform wars are verboten on TekLab lists!!! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 20:59:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:52:52 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >On the other hand, the 56303 provides the ability to make two data fetches from two independent memory locations at the same time. This is very important for filter algorithms, where you always need a sample word and a filter coefficient at the same time. >The SHARC doesn't provide this double fetch, so filter algorithms require the double amount of instructions and time. > Excellent. This is the sort of thing I like to know... >All in all the SHARC architecture is a litte more modern, so in average it requires possibly 10 % less instructions to do the same task. But the 56303 is available with clock frequencies that are about 20 % higher, and this fact overcompensates the SHARC architecture. Geeze, wish some of those PC/Mac ninnies I've had wars with in the past were insightful enough to be able to understand this way of thinking sometimes... :) >So the differences in power are quite small, there is neither a reason to say the SHARC is the new DSP star, nor that the Motorola will stay the number one for the future. My experience has been that SHARC generally has more modern intuitive tools, but that there are a hell of a lot more Mot-56k programmers out there. But that's just a very limited experience. I'm considering taking some sabbatical time in '99 to devote exclusively to DSP education... got any good references, recommendations? I have the EZ-SHARC kit here at TekLab, but haven't had time to put it to use... is there something similar in the Motorola side that you'd recommend as a good education platform? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 21:09:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:56:07 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: WANTED features for OS2.1 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan I have 4 very good friends that are *very* close to buying an Access Virus based on my recommendation. However, they all want the same features that the Virus currently doesn't have: Ring Modulation Pitch EG (or 3rd assignable EG) Mod.Matrix. So, just my 2 cents worth of suggestions for OS2.1 ... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 22:31:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: still having problems with v2.0 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:21:26 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From Guenther Albrecht > >P.S.: working with computers (IBM-comp., Apple, Mainframes) for 15 years now i feel compelled to say what i think out of this experience, and Mac is really better... That's cool, I work with computers for 15 years too. I'll mail Günther privatly what the problems with the Mac are (and with his statements, who are detable, to say the least). If you want to know what tose are, just mail me - privatly. :-) - Peter (who uses PC's and Suns) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 22:04:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "NightGoat" To: Subject: Re: WANTED features for OS2.1 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:03:01 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "NightGoat" Isn't a Ring Modulator supposed to be on it's way? I tried finding some previous post about the Ring Modulator discussion, but my emails don't go that far back. From what I can remember, a Ring Modulator is on it's way to the Virus.......can this be confirmed? >SNIP< >I have 4 very good friends that are *very* close to buying an Access Virus based on my recommendation. > >However, they all want the same features that the Virus currently doesn't have: > >Ring Modulation >Pitch EG (or 3rd assignable EG) >Mod.Matrix. > >So, just my 2 cents worth of suggestions for OS2.1 ... SNIP< ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 20:09:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:06:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: Contoured Sync - (if I ask nicely enough?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen I have a Moog Rogue. I bought it three years ago and I have used it in studio and live playing. Yes, it is a contoured synth and it stays in tune. I love it. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 22:09:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: WANTED features for OS2.1 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 98 22:08:06 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >I have 4 very good friends that are *very* close to buying an Access Virus based on my recommendation. > >However, they all want the same features that the Virus currently doesn't have: > > Ring Modulation 100% agreed! > Pitch EG (or 3rd assignable EG) 50 % agreed > Mod.Matrix. ....... Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 22:21:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: WANTED features for OS2.1 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:26:56 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Yeah, Jay, I've a couple too. (Wink Wink) >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jay Vaughan [mailto:jay@teklab.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 11:56 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: WANTED features for OS2.1 >> >> >>* From Jay Vaughan >> >>I have 4 very good friends that are *very* close to buying an Access Virus >>based on my recommendation. >> >>However, they all want the same features that the Virus currently doesn't have: >> >>Ring Modulation >>Pitch EG (or 3rd assignable EG) >>Mod.Matrix. >> >>So, just my 2 cents worth of suggestions for OS2.1 ... >> >> >> >>j. >> >>-- >>Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >>Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >>Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >>Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] _____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 22:39:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:40:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From b-La-roc Hi ... i am having some difficulties getting the sound i want using the vocoder and i wonder if any of you guys and girls could help me with some technique. Record the vocals (sung or spoken) first. Then you can replay through the Vocoder and play/edit the melody on your keyboard/sequencer. This way you only hear the results, and not your original singing/speech. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 10:59:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Contoured Sync - (if I ask nicely enough?) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:02:52 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Hi Synthiheads! Hi VCS3 (I like the name) >Has anyone heard of a synth called the Moog Rogue? This was one of the simplest and cheapest synths ever made by good old Uncle Bob. But it had one feature which made it unique. This feature was called "Contoured Sync". Yes, you've guessed right, the amount, or strength of the oscillator sync could be modulated by the envelope generator. Apparently, it is a very exciting and unusual effect. I did some mods on VCS3s and Synthi As back in the '70s, including a smooth Soft-to-Hard sync control. I thought it was an good idea at first, but, after playing with it for a good while, I don't think it would be particularly useful in the Virus - not half as useful as a Compare function, for instance! Each to his own, though.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 8 23:33:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:32:32 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Contoured Sync - (if I ask nicely enough?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! at 19:39 8-12-98, you wrote: >* From lowlifeform >Has anyone heard of a synth called the Moog Rogue? This was one of the simplest and cheapest synths ever made by good old Uncle Bob. But it had one feature which made it unique. This feature was called "Contoured Sync". Yes, you've guessed right, the amount, or strength of the oscillator sync could be modulated by the envelope generator. Apparently, it is a very exciting and unusual effect. Yes, there's more information about it on http://www.sonicstate.com/bbsonic/synth/synthPlate2.cfm?synthID=434 It's not much, but it has a picture of it. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 00:59:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: OS Request Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 00:46:09 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From Jay Vaughan > >I'm considering taking some sabbatical time in '99 to devote exclusively to DSP education... got any good references, recommendations? I have the EZ-SHARC kit here at TekLab, but haven't had time to put it to use... is there something similar in the Motorola side that you'd recommend as a good education platform? http://www.mot.com/SPS/DSP/products/DSP56303EVM.html Not that I know the thing, though. Moto advertises it... - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 01:14:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:01:13 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Short cuts- what happened ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/8/98 5:00:34 AM, Joerg.Meissner-2@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de writes: >You may reach the minimum value with this sequence (no matter where >you are): >Press [Value-] and hold it >Press [Value+] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value-] -> YOU REACHED MINIMAL VALUE !!! > > >And of course: >Press [Value+] and hold it >Press [Value-] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value+] -> YOU REACHED MAXIMAL VALUE !!! > > >Isn't it a great feature???? :) Absolutely! This leads me to wonder, are there any other neat features that may be undocumented? I have been trying to collect them from the list, but i am sure there are many we don't necessarily know about...... Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 01:36:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: LoCo785@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:21:14 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From LoCo785@aol.com wut the hell is this OS about? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 02:33:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:28:23 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >> >>My experience has been that SHARC generally has more modern intuitive tools, >What tools? > The EZ-SHARC kit has a CSound devkit, which you use to compile microcode to upload to the SHARC, which I have found to be quite a bit easier to get a grasp of than raw C DSP functions... but perhaps something exists like this for the Motorola, I have no clue. >Sure, the DSP56303 EVM board, which is probably the cheapest platform you can get. > Just took a look at it this afternoon, may consider picking one up when I take a bit of a break early next year. >BTW: It seems to me profitable to start on a Motorola, 'cause if you start serious projects, and you want to cooperate with other people or a company, it's better to work on a platform that most other people use. > Agreed! Not that I'm a DSP pro at all, that's for sure, but I sure wouldn't mind at least doing more of that type of work, even if it is microcontroller stuff more than raw DSP programming (I've done a lot of Microcontroller and EP work with 68HC11 kits, Basic Stamps, MIPSR3000, etc). The Virus to me represents a very intriguing example of what can be done with a combination of these technologies... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 01:50:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Short cuts- what happened ? Date: Mit, 9 Dec 98 01:53:39 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile >>And of course: >>Press [Value+] and hold it >>Press [Value-] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value+] -> YOU REACHED MAXIMAL VALUE !!! >> >> >>Isn't it a great feature???? :) > >Absolutely! This leads me to wonder, are there any other neat features that may be undocumented? I have been trying to collect them from the list, but i am sure there are many we don't necessarily know about...... this feature is available in many synths. i always try this one first to step thru bigger parameter fields. a thing i really would like to see is an definable upper margine for the resonance pot. in live situation this would avoid to high values when raising resonance up in _realtime_ which sometimes causes some really nasty sweeps. marc "..." (my girlfriend announced that she'll dump me if i don't drop my previous signature. available on request at stylepolice@usa.net babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 06:37:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:21:29 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: feature request... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont more than anything, i would love to see some sort of step sequencer. even if it was very hard to use(due to being buried under sub-menu's etc.) it would still be nice. i long to have some way to have *only* the virus with me but still make music(i really love the way the buttons of the jp8080(boo hiss!) can become a mini-keyboard for testing out notes. i don't yet own a virus but from what i've read each multi-part has up to 16 notes of memory for the "as played" arp. so if only there was a way to input these from the virus itself instead of needing an external keyboard. perhaps using the definable knob one to move between the 16 steps and definable knob 2 to dial up a note value. the user would have to use the sub menus to change the gate time for notes, etc. but it would still be very nice. any thoughts? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 08:42:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Contoured Sync - (if I ask nicely enough?) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 07:38:26 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:56:41 EST, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >I actually wonder what the contoured Sync is exactly. Any comments? It's some time since I sold my Rogue but its sync was nothing too special if memory serves (feel free to correct here) as you just turned it on then modulated the synced oscillator's pitch very much as you do on the Virus. I think the contour bit just referred to the envelope modulation - right? I'd like a "hard sync" and "soft sync" option like on my Digisound modular but it's not so important. A ring mod and mod matrix would be cooler. And a unison mode and a compare mode.... ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 09:58:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: HScarr@csi.com, CKe9644719@aol.com Subject: Re: Short cut to A0, B0, M0 - what happened ? Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 08:52:54 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >Personally, I don't think so. However, I would like to see a better way of pinpointing *any* sounds by holding down Multi or Single and turning the Value knob - I've mentioned this before. I would like to see: - Press and hold "PARAMETER <", - turn "OSC2 SHAPE" and stop turning - release "PARAMETER <" Means: I would like to hold "Parameter <" and additionally turn a knob to get to it's section. E.g. tuning Cutoff1 directs me directly to "Filter1" section, and turning "OSC2 SHAPE" points me to "OSCILLATOR2" section. With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 10:01:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: brainray@real-net.de Subject: Re: WANTED features for OS2.1 Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 08:56:10 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >> Ring Modulation >100% agreed! >> Pitch EG (or 3rd assignable EG) >50 % agreed 100% agreed to your agreements :) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 12:03:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:02:04 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Contoured sync . . . . Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform I've been reading Peter Forrest's book "The A-Z of Analogue Synthesisers, Part One : A-M" on the train on the way to work. (recommended reading, by the way ISBN 0 9524377 0 8). I got to "M" for Moog yesterday evening, and thought hmmm, I wonder what that sounds like (contoured sync). Well if Paul and Howard don't think it's partictlarly amazing, OK. Just an idea. I'm going to modify one of the oscillators in my modular during the Christmas break, though. Howard, have you got a Synthi-AKS in your attic gathering dust? ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 12:25:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:29:52 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Mischke To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Who made the factory patches? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Peter Mischke Hi, I would like to know, who made the factory patches of the virus. Reading this mailinglist I guess: RP -> sounds by Rob Papen K -> sounds by Christoph Kemper Is this true? And what about the unmarked patches? ... Bye Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 18:42:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Ring Mod etc. Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:38:37 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) I'd like a "hard sync" and "soft sync" option like on my Digisound modular but it's not so important. A ring mod and mod matrix would be cooler. And a unison mode and a compare mode.... ;-) I assume Access are already working on a ring modulator (are there *really* so many ring-mod fans out there?) as an alternative to the FM. Wouldn't say no, but the compare mode is the one I really miss! BTW: You can make your own "Unison mode" in a Multi (e.g. 12 x same Single), so it's not really necessary - you'll be stealing polyphony anyway you do it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 18:42:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: feature request... Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:42:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >i don't yet own a virus but from what i've read each multi-part has up to 16 notes of memory for the >"as played" arp. so if only there was a way to input these from the virus itself instead of needing an external keyboard. perhaps using the definable knob one to move between the 16 steps and definable knob 2 to dial up a note value. the user would have to use the sub menus to change the gate time for notes, etc. but it would still be very nice. any thoughts? Why not buy a cheap keyboard? I don't think Access would be particularly interested in such a feature. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 19:24:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 10:23:50 -0800 From: b-La-roc To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From b-La-roc Perhaps the sound that is oftem heard in the moment on R&B stuff is made by a so called _Talk-Box_ (or mouth-box). Was it this sound you were expecting? Raymund & List, I just tried out the Talk Box .... it tickled my teeth alot .. i had an ATC-1 with minimoog filter plugged in the the input .... i was trying it out and although the sound is very interesting i think that diction is pretty difficult with a tube in your mouth ... and as a result the words do not come out in a clear way ... it was very good at reproducing wah but not ess or cee .... I also noticed this when vocoding . that sibilant sounds loose their integrity . as mentioned by another list member ... is there a way of retaining the sibilants using a talk box or a vocoder ... which carriers are best for this work ? thanks again barney. p.s. I hadn't heard the record you mentioned .. but if you heard Music In My Mind by Adam F that has a style i would like to reproduce. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 19:18:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: feature request... Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:24:46 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness or buy a cheapo used TR series drummer. That's the beauty of MIDI. Mix and match. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Howard Scarr [mailto:HScarr@csi.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 9:42 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: feature request... >> >> >>* From "Howard Scarr" >> >>>i don't yet own a virus but from what i've read each >>multi-part has up >>>to 16 notes of memory for the >>>"as played" arp. so if only there was a way to input these from the virus itself instead of needing an external keyboard. perhaps using the definable knob one to move between the 16 steps and >>definable knob >>>2 to dial up a note value. the user would have to use the >>sub menus to >>>change the gate time for notes, etc. but it would still be >>very nice. >>>any thoughts? >> >>Why not buy a cheap keyboard? I don't think Access would be particularly >>interested in such a feature. >> >> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 19:29:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ring Mod etc. Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 18:27:08 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:38:37 +0100, "Howard Scarr" wrote: >BTW: You can make your own "Unison mode" in a Multi (e.g. 12 x same Single), so it's not really necessary - you'll be stealing polyphony anyway you do it. True but I don't bother with Multi mode very often. I'd rather have a stackable unison with detune amount, de-pan amount, number of stacked voices to use etc. Or a Unisono mode like the Microwave 2/XT. ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 20:05:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:33:15 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: feature request... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn I for one would LOVE a step sequencer......I like the way little 16 step patterns sound, plus I like each unit in my setup to have its own sequencer...that way my sequences are running from diffrent place, so I can mix and match more easily. CrazyJon Any tool can be useful... Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>i don't yet own a virus but from what i've read each multi-part has up to 16 notes of memory for the >>"as played" arp. so if only there was a way to input these from the virus itself instead of needing an external keyboard. perhaps using the definable knob one to move between the 16 steps and definable knob 2 to dial up a note value. the user would have to use the sub menus to change the gate time for notes, etc. but it would still be very nice. any thoughts? > >Why not buy a cheap keyboard? I don't think Access would be particularly interested in such a feature. > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 20:34:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 19:33:17 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ring mod etc. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform A ring modulator is a traditional part of any analog synth. It just has to be there - don't worry . . it will come I'm sure. On the subject of MicrowaveII/XT, it's extremely interesting to note that Waldorf are now offering a voice extension for these two synths. It costs just under 1000 DM and gives you a total of 30!! voices, if my source of information is correct. Totally off-topic, of course :-) Sorry ! LoLife ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 19:48:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Who made the factory patches? Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 18:46:28 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:29:52 +0100 (MET), Peter Mischke wrote: >Is this true? And what about the unmarked patches? I did some - if they are still included. You can guess which they are or grab my whole bank from my free resource page. Some are OK but they aren't as good as Rob's. I just did them when I first got the instrument to learn about it. ;-) I'll upload another, more recent bank, when I remember. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 21:49:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MailingGoa@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:20:11 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re:[VIRUS] - v2.0:( AOL? CUBASE MISMATCH? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MailingGoa@aol.com Hey, 12/09/98 I tried the update to v2.0 just now, and got the message of something like... Windows Cubase Score Demo 3.50 - "Product Version mismatch. C:\PROGRAM FILES\STEINBERG\CUBASE SCORE VST DEMO\CUBASE.eng Version 0.00" So, then I though, this must be what people have been getting annoyed at on the list? So, I unzipped V1.58, which I've already successfully downloaded to the Virus a week ago, but once I unzipped that, it read the same error message when I double clicked the little happy paper to load Cubase with the MIDI File. This didn't happen last week with ANY of the versions I've done, so what's wrong with what I'm doing? Is it my computer being bugged out or something? Did something get broken and I'm not aware of it yet? Seriously. michael ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 21:18:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: sequencer Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:21:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >I for one would LOVE a step sequencer......I like the way little 16 step patterns >sound, plus I like each unit in my setup to have its own sequencer...that way >my sequences are running from diffrent place, so I can mix and match more easily. Hell, why not a seperate Module called: Access Analog Sequencer or in short: AAS :-) I would love to see more Access stuff in my rack...slowly building my own modular system :-) What I like to see is a good, analog sounding, phaser in the Virus. The delay and chorus are good, but if there's one fx which makes a sound analog it is the phaser...imo. I've heard a few new digital fx units and I'm NOT convinced by their phaser-sound...it's not exactly a Compact Phasing "A" or a Mutron Biphase :-) Or an Ensemble fx? In other words a dirty, warm chorus...like on a Solina or the Polysix... ah well, yesterdays synths don't have FXs at all, so I shouldn't be complaining...on the other hand these are 'new' times and now it is possible to integrate them, so why not?... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 22:30:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 21:35:53 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: programer X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >i believe i read where the programmers were discontinued....but the good news is there about to be re issued!!! You're right. The last 100 programmers are in production right now. But it's not quite clear if some of them will find their way to the U.S. - it's a question of demand. You will have to order one at your local dealer or contact our american distributor GSF under 001-310 452 6216. Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 22:03:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:02:31 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: wanted: lo-fi sampling freq. effect. (was Re: Ring Mod etc.) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! At 18:38 9-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >I assume Access are already working on a ring modulator (are there *really* so many ring-mod fans out there?) I am a REALLY big fan of a ring modulator! It has such a rich sound. But probably, it takes some time to develop. Say, access, I once suggested to have a function to decrease 'sampling frequency' on the place of saturation. To get this digital, aliased sound. Not really "analogue" sounding, but i'd love this feature! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 01:03:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:21:10 +1100 (EST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: RE: feature request... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont ---Blackstone Hamilton wrote: > >or buy a cheapo used TR series drummer. That's the beauty of MIDI. Mix and >match. > that is what i am actually currently doing. but i would still love it if the virus had one internally, no need to mess with midi merging on the input, etc. plus it would be nice to have the step sequencer function in the arp mode so that one could transpose the patterns just by hitting different keys. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 01:07:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:25:31 +1100 (EST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: feature request... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont hmm... i think you may have misunderstood. i want a step sequencer built into the virus (as one of the arp modes). i don't see how an external keyboard would help unless it had the sequencer built in. >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>i don't yet own a virus but from what i've read each multi-part has up >>to 16 notes of memory for the >>"as played" arp. so if only there was a way to input these from the virus itself instead of needing an external keyboard. perhaps using the definable knob one to move between the 16 steps and definable knob >>2 to dial up a note value. the user would have to use the sub menus to >>change the gate time for notes, etc. but it would still be very nice. any thoughts? > >Why not buy a cheap keyboard? I don't think Access would be particularly >interested in such a feature. > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 22:34:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:27:57 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Stephane ROLLAND ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:08:23 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Stephane ROLLAND ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Wed Dec 9 13:08:20 1998 >Received: from nef.ismcm-cesti.fr (nef.ismcm-cesti.fr [195.83.207.163]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA21440 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:07:54 -0800 Message-Id: <366EE54F.23254DB@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:02:08 +0100 >From: Stephane ROLLAND Reply-To: anaesth@wanadoo.fr >Mime-Version: 1.0 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Ring mod etc. >References: <19981209193317.15688.qmail@www02.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >lowlifeform a écrit: > >>On the subject of MicrowaveII/XT, it's extremely interesting to note that >Waldorf are now offering a voice extension for these two synths. It costs just under 1000 DM and gives you a total of 30!! voices, if my source of information is correct. Totally off-topic, of course :-) Sorry ! > >Not out yet. And I'm not really sure about your price too. Anyway it is a great upgrade. > >BTW I wanted to say that the Access Virus and the Waldorf microwaveII/XT are perfect when used together. I abuse of layering the same melody on the two synths and it's sounds awefully wonderful.Best Electro Regards._______________________________________________________________ S.ROLLAND anaesth@wanadoo.fr >ANA3STh is an elektro.industrial.project from Paris ANA3STh HOMEPAGE: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/anaesth/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 22:34:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:28:02 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Stephane ROLLAND ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:01:14 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Stephane ROLLAND ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Wed Dec 9 13:01:11 1998 >Received: from nef.ismcm-cesti.fr (nef.ismcm-cesti.fr [195.83.207.163]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA21348 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:01:09 -0800 Message-Id: <366EE3C4.2E41E835@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 21:55:32 +0100 >From: Stephane ROLLAND Reply-To: anaesth@wanadoo.fr >Mime-Version: 1.0 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Ring Mod etc. >References: <001e01be239b$632625a0$e531e8c3@howie> <366fc0ae.437094@post.demon.co.uk> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > >Paul Nagle a écrit: > >>... Or a Unisono mode like the Microwave 2/XT. > >Yep, it gives the sound a incredible depth. 100 % agreed. > >______________________________________________________________ S.ROLLAND anaesth@wanadoo.fr >ANA3STh is an elektro.industrial.project from Paris ANA3STh HOMEPAGE: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/anaesth/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 9 23:09:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: [VIRUS] - v2.0:( AOL? CUBASE MISMATCH? Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:06:30 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness As a suggestion for getting a file without corruption, use a simple character mode FTP program and download the file directly from the FTP server instead of relying on the browser. Besides, this will get you used to Unix before it will become the next desktop OS (according to so many Unix users. 0 /|\ ----- | | | | >>-----Original Message----- >>From: MailingGoa@aol.com [mailto:MailingGoa@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 12:20 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: re:[VIRUS] - v2.0:( AOL? CUBASE MISMATCH? >> >> >>* From MailingGoa@aol.com >> >>Hey, >> >>12/09/98 >> >>I tried the update to v2.0 just now, and got the message of something like... >> >>Windows Cubase Score Demo 3.50 - >> >>"Product Version mismatch. >>C:\PROGRAM FILES\STEINBERG\CUBASE SCORE VST DEMO\CUBASE.eng Version 0.00" >> >>So, then I though, this must be what people have been getting annoyed at on >>the list? So, I unzipped V1.58, which I've already successfully downloaded to >>the Virus a week ago, but once I unzipped that, it read the same error message >>when I double clicked the little happy paper to load Cubase with the MIDI >>File. This didn't happen last week with ANY of the versions I've done, so >>what's wrong with what I'm doing? >> >>Is it my computer being bugged out or something? Did something get broken and >>I'm not aware of it yet? Seriously.  >> >>michael >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 02:37:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:24:49 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: Short cuts- what happened ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner At 01:53 09.12.98 -0000, you wrote: >* From Marc Schlaile > >>>And of course: >>>Press [Value+] and hold it >>>Press [Value-] and hold it (you come to fast repeat mode) Release [Value+] -> YOU REACHED MAXIMAL VALUE !!! >>> >this feature is available in many synths. i always try this one first to step thru bigger parameter fields. > >marc > >babylonwaves music >www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ >email:babylonwaves@usa.net > I don't know any synthi or keyboard, that has *this* feature. Maybe you didn't meant exactly this feature - otherwise, please give me an example. Jörg Meißner access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 02:00:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: feature request...enough Date: Thu, 10 Dec 98 01:59:35 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer IMO the Virus is quite a good, or one of the best snths I ever had. So I wouldnt like a sequenzer in it, because it would be difficult to use! The most people have a sequencer - and I think a sequencer would overload the Virus..... keep it the nice synth that it is - no hyped kind of GM multitalent... Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 02:42:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: feature request...enough Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:48:25 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >>* From Raymund Beyer >> >>IMO the Virus is quite a good, or one of the best snths I ever had. So I >>wouldnt like a sequenzer in it, because it would be difficult to use! The >>most people have a sequencer - and I think a sequencer would overload the >>Virus..... keep it the nice synth that it is - no hyped kind of GM multitalent... Javol! Meine Gedanken genau! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 06:48:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:34:57 +1100 (EST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: wanted: lo-fi sampling freq. effect. (was Re: Ring Mod etc.) To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont >Say, access, I once suggested to have a function to decrease 'sampling frequency' on the place >of saturation. To get this digital, aliased sound. Not really "analogue" >sounding, but i'd >love this feature! > me too! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 04:46:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 19:45:37 -0800 From: b-La-roc To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From b-La-roc BTW: I just included another parameter to the Virus Vocoder. Its name is Spectral Balance and it controls the the balance between low and high frequencies of the vocoder signal. Cristoph, You rock! barney. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 08:00:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:59:10 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Uhu-oh, that means another Guiness at the meeting in Amsterdam! Dimitri. At 21:45 9-12-98 EST, you wrote: >BTW: I just included another parameter to the Virus Vocoder. Its name is Spectral Balance and it controls the the balance between low and high frequencies of the vocoder signal. Even it appears as a simple equalizer function, it is at least necessary to create a high speech quality and more, since most common signals - carrier and modulator - do not apply a well- balanced spectrum. > >We will release a V 2.01 soon, including this important feature. > >Good Night >Christoph ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 08:33:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: OS Request Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:32:35 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness How about a mode that lets the control surface of the VIRUS act as a programmer for my Matrix modules? Yes...this would be seriously fat. you could send gate from one of the aux outs to the Matrix and vocode the output, bleaurgh :) Anig Browl X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 08:33:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: still having problems with PC & Cubase Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:32:36 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >Yes, Mac & Logic & Unitor 8 = most stable system to get! > >PC & Cubase & Motu = lots of problems & untightness! Sigh. It's true tha Mac owners tend to have more problems, but the PC is nice and stable if you configure it right. I'm using Layla & an Opcode MIDI translator and Cakewalk on a Pentium 133 and I have had no MIDI problems. (This is too slow for digital audio but that is simply a performace issue). PCs can be tight as a button. Admittedly I'm a technician so I have a head start. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 09:40:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Communication Breakdown Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:33:43 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >Everytime i try to send Sounds to Sounddiver, it just says " Virus in not answering!!" >What am i doing wrong ?? Which adaptation? There are 3 or 4 different... Maybe you configured a wrong midi port? Maybe the device ID is not matching (VirusOmni=17) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 10:36:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:35:39 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: article on vocoders, "keys" 1/99 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform For those German speakers among us: The new "Keys" (Jan. 1999) contains a quite interesting article on vocoders, to be continued in the Feb. and Mar. issues. And Christoph has earned himself 50 DM by publishing a few tips concerning the Virus. Hey, I think I'm gonna try that! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 10:23:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Oliver Szigan To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:21:25 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Szigan hi list... the german company MAM as announced something like that. the thing is calle SQ-16 and is a full standalone step-sequencer ;) list price will be around 620 DM more info should be soon on http://www.music-and-more.com theres no info for that now, but it already appears in thier advert this month ;) >-----Original Message----- >From: Marcel Engels [SMTP:fsp@wxs.nl] >Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 9:21 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: sequencer > >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>I for one would LOVE a step sequencer......I like the way little 16 >step >>patterns >>sound, plus I like each unit in my setup to have its own sequencer...that way >>my sequences are running from diffrent place, so I can mix and match >more >>easily. > >Hell, why not a seperate Module called: Access Analog Sequencer or in short: AAS :-) >I would love to see more Access stuff in my rack...slowly building my own modular system :-) > >What I like to see is a good, analog sounding, phaser in the Virus. The delay and chorus are good, but if there's one fx which makes a sound analog it is the phaser...imo. >I've heard a few new digital fx units and I'm NOT convinced by their phaser-sound...it's not exactly a Compact Phasing "A" or a Mutron Biphase :-) >Or an Ensemble fx? In other words a dirty, warm chorus...like on a Solina or the Polysix... > >ah well, yesterdays synths don't have FXs at all, so I shouldn't be complaining...on the other hand these are 'new' times and now it is possible to integrate them, so why not?... > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl > >______________________________________________________________________ _____ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 10:50:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: analogue sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:50:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Raymund Beyer Aan: Access List Datum: donderdag 10 december 1998 2:28 Onderwerp: Re: feature request...enough |* From Raymund Beyer | |IMO the Virus is quite a good, or one of the best snths I ever had. So I |wouldnt like a sequenzer in it, because it would be difficult to use! The |most people have a sequencer - and I think a sequencer would overload the |Virus..... keep it the nice synth that it is - no hyped kind of GM |multitalent... | |Ray I would think more about a analogue style sequencer. The things I do make on my old Korg MS-20 and Korg SQ-10 (analogue sequencer) are very different than the thing I do make on a Computer Sequencer. Quasimidi did made a genius concept of making a Virtual synthesizer combined with a very cool analogue sequencer!! Access: Just use an extra page in the Virus and use the front knops of the ADSTR (filter and env). We would have an eight step small sequencer. Sequencer page 1: note Sequencer page 2: note on/of Sequencer page 3: controller I could be to much and making the machine to complex, but it would be very cool. Rob | |----------------------------------------------------------- |Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de | |http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 |ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim |Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany |----------------------------------------------------------- | | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 11:02:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Every party needs a Synthi Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:01:51 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I got to "M" for Moog yesterday evening, and thought hmmm, I wonder what that sounds like (contoured sync). Well if Paul and Howard don't think it's partictlarly amazing, OK. Just an idea. I'm going to modify one of the oscillators in my modular during the Christmas break, though. >Howard, have you got a Synthi-AKS in your attic gathering dust? Sadly, I sold both my Synthi A´s, a KS and a DK2 (not to mention that awful HiFli) over 20 years ago, for what would now be considered peanuts, but I do get to play with friend's (old "Zorch" comrades) AKSs and VCS3s every time I visit England. You got a spare VCS3 in your cellar? ;-) (Enough nostalgia - the Virus is tons better!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 12:46:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:45:59 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Every party needs a Synthi Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >(Enough nostalgia - the Virus is tons better!) Better? I don't think a comparison is possible. Lets just say "different". I need my EMS stuff just as much as I need the Virus in the trax I do. The Synthi-A can produce sounds which will remove ALL your fillings and kill a savage rodent at 30 metres. LoLife ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 11:54:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: ASS, AVK Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:55:12 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Hell, why not a seperate Module called: Access Analog Sequencer or in short: AAS :-) >I would love to see more Access stuff in my rack...slowly building my own modular system :-) Yes, yes, yes! That word "modular" gave me the following idea for two new products 1. The ASS (Access Step Sequencer) - should be exactly the same size and format as the Virus 2. The AVK (Access Virus Keyboard) - with a *tray* behind the keys to accomodate a Virus and an ASS, next to each other Or course the AVK should include a power supply for the whole "instrument", pedal and breath controller inputs etc :-) Access, are you listening? I'd buy both immediately! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 12:24:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: analogue sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:22:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Rob Papen wrote: >Access: Just use an extra page in the Virus and use the front knops of the ADSTR (filter and env). >We would have an eight step small sequencer. Sequencer page 1: note >Sequencer page 2: note on/of >Sequencer page 3: controller >I could be to much and making the machine to complex, but it would be very cool. That's more like it! If you're going to have a special "Notes" mode for this, you might as well make it 16 steps, using the SELECT buttons to switch between the two pages, and also use the Filter mode and routing buttons/LEDs to change step limits and octaves. However, you'd have to find a really neat way of switching in and out of this mode, otherwise you can't tweak the filters or envelopes on-the-fly! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 12 12:34:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mz_mail@pop.gmx.de Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:29:52 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: digest Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >wouldn't it be great to have 1 single mail a day with all the mailings in it, >because every day turning on your pc and get the message that you received over >50 mails is getting a bit too much . Same here. But maybe more than one digest a day would be better (a digest every 20 mails or something). Otherwise the discussions are stopped for too long - everyone waiting for the digest. ;) I once submitted to a mailing list which sent its digest once a week, and when I got it the discussion was over nearly a week since...!!! Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 11:49:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:48:31 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: analogue sequencer WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! First i'd say no to a sequencer in the virus, but an sq-10 like sequencer is a very different one...! I'd say, the kind of analogue sequencer like the old sq-10 would not take much power of the virus, much less than a vocoder. This sequencer sends at each step a voltage to the Korg Ms-20 (or Ms-10), has 16 steps, and a 3 pairs of it. You can chose in which order these pairs are played (i belive it were 4 modes) A programm to do this must be able to send a midi-note at most in lets say 64th at 255 BPM (that's one pair of 16 steps at each beat, and that is 68 notes a second, which is quite much... but not for a 8088 processor, let alone a virus. A note would be represented in a value of 0-127, and 0 is no note. The notes would take 3x16= 48 bytes of 7 bits. Okay, lets' make 4 pairs of it, that makes 64 bytes of 7bit. Maybe it would be nice to set the length of the pairs to other than 16, within a range of 1-16. That would take another 4 bytes? And with maybe some other parameters, let's say the sequencer would take 128Bytes and a small amount of processor capacity for one Midi-chan. I think this kind of advanced arpeggiator would be a nice option to use! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 12:58:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "seb:h" To: Subject: and still having problems with v2.0 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:54:56 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "seb:h" This is ridiculous - I've tried updating from 1.54 to 2.0 with every sequenzer i could get (Cubase, Logic, Jazz, Cakewalk etc.) It just wont work. Please, somebody, help me. Seb ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 13:28:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: analogue sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:23:46 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:50:01 +0100, "Rob Papen" wrote: >We would have an eight step small sequencer. I would use a step sequencer far more than the vocoder, for sure. The filter LEDs could be used as step indicators (flashing lights rule) although you'd need a mode to quickly leap between sequence settings and modifying the synth tone. Actually you could have up to 20 steps amd use the LFO LEDs to step through them. I'd like to have something like the Polymorph which sequences control changes too or even controller snapshots. Just my 2p worth. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 13:15:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:13:54 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:ASS, AVK WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Yes! That's what I suggested once too! An Acces Step Sequencer. I also suggested an Access Sampler, with the same possibilities to change the OSC as the Virus has. Never heard a reaction though. Would this be a secret project of access? :-) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 14:59:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 98 15:02:11 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Hi List, I can unterstand that some of you want a sequencer, but think about a few things: -will it be able to run via sync to MTC _reliable_ especially on critical machines that are not even able to send the OS sysex dump? Sure not! I can allready hear the complaints... I also have an AN1x which has a sequencer, but it is allmost unusable without the Sound Diver (or Yamaha) Editor. Also in Midi-sync it has timing problems and this with a very tight and reliable system. -is it really necessary? As stated here before there are about 5-10 Logic Environments, that give you a quite good analog sequencer feel. Dont know if this is possible with Cubase though.... -wouldnt it be better to save the DSP power for sound capabilities? Only thoughts RAy ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 15:34:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: digix@pop.internal.mindspring.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:34:07 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: LFO Subject: (MIDI) Step Sequencer?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From LFO Regarding the step sequencer- Does anyone know of any software applications which would (in a sense) act as a step sequencer sending MIDI note and controller data to the Virus? I know that Logic, StudioVision, Performer, etc. could probably do this, but a standalone application whould do the job nicely. Now that I think about it - It sounds like time to break out Max and start putting something together....... LFO ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 16:18:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:52:11 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RE: still having problems with PC & Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/10/98 1:55:46 AM, eddy@anig-browl.org writes: >Sigh. It's true tha Mac owners tend to have more problems, I'm sorry, we don't. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 16:06:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:01:09 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn A feature you dont use doesn't take up DSP power. I think its a great idea, any feature of a synth has it's uses...diffrent people like diffrent weapons in their sonic arsenal.......... CrazyJon MAD PROPS to access guyz.........This has to be the best supported synth on the market...U rule! > >-wouldnt it be better to save the DSP power for sound capabilities? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 16:15:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 10 Dec 98 10:13:11 -0500 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net From: evening To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From evening ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 16:51:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: (MIDI) Step Sequencer?? Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:50:36 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" >Does anyone know of any software applications which would (in a sense) >act as a step sequencer sending MIDI note and controller data to the Virus? I know that Logic, StudioVision, Performer, etc. could probably do this, but a standalone application whould do the job nicely. Now that I think about It is called SEQ-303 and it is available from Technotoys . Do an Alta-Vista search and you will find it .... ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 16:53:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: "Access" Subject: Technotoys... Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:52:34 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" Here ya' go ...... http://www.technotoys.com/ ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 17:08:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:00:50 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com Hello All, I am new to the list and am about to be a new owner of a Virus. I would also like to cast my vote for a step-sequencer (with a real-time transpose zone). Also, does the Virus have velocity-switching of parts within a Multi? And, is it possible to modulate the filter-cutoff with one of the audio oscillators? Thanks! Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 17:13:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OS Request Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:17:59 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Leider ist dieses Thema tot. -----Original Message----- From: Anig Browl [mailto:eddy@anig-browl.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 11:33 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OS Request How about a mode that lets the control surface of the VIRUS act as a programmer for my Matrix modules? Yes...this would be seriously fat. you could send gate from one of the aux outs to the Matrix and vocode the output, bleaurgh :) Anig Browl X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 17:44:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: (MIDI) Step Sequencer?? Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:50:50 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Möglicherweise sollten Sie einen Blick an FreeStyle durch MOTU nehmen. Dieses Programm scheint wie es würde tun den Trick. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: LFO [mailto:LFO@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 6:34 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: (MIDI) Step Sequencer?? >> >> >>* From LFO >> >>Regarding the step sequencer- >> >>Does anyone know of any software applications which would (in a sense) act >>as a step sequencer sending MIDI note and controller data to the Virus? I >>know that Logic, StudioVision, Performer, etc. could probably do this, but >>a standalone application whould do the job nicely. Now that I think about >>it - It sounds like time to break out Max and start putting something together....... >> >>LFO >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 18:48:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:04:46 +1100 (EST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: Sequencer To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont what i envision is something that is in reality just another arpeggiator mode. it would acutally be a different interface to the "as played" mode of the arpeggiator. from my understanding, the "as played" mode can hold a maximum of 16 notes. so the step sequencer would really just be a way to "dial in" notes using the knobs on the virus instead of a keyboard, one step at a time. of course i would love to have all the features of something like the polymorph, but as you mention that might take up too much memory, processor, etc. however, i think that a simpler interface would be easy to implement and still very usefull. image all of you lucky people at your party in amsterdam making great songs with no keyboards attached. just a bunch of virus step sequences running into a mixer. regarding the sync-issues, the above would run with the same precision that the current appregiator sync runs. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:32:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:17:48 +1100 (EST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Sequencer To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes I agree. While I would not argue if a cool 16 step sequencer was included, I would rather see the DSP/memory reserved for additional sound shaping functions. >-wouldnt it be better to save the DSP power for sound capabilities? > >Only thoughts > >RAy > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:31:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:18:55 +1100 (EST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: (MIDI) Step Sequencer?? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes There is the TechnoToys Seq-303 for PC... Rick ---LFO wrote: > >* From LFO > >Regarding the step sequencer- > >Does anyone know of any software applications which would (in a sense) act >as a step sequencer sending MIDI note and controller data to the Virus? I >know that Logic, StudioVision, Performer, etc. could probably do this, but >a standalone application whould do the job nicely. Now that I think about >it - It sounds like time to break out Max and start putting something together....... > >LFO > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 18:52:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 01:20:33 +0800 (SGT) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Sequencer To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes It does, however, take up memory (DSP memory?) that could be used elsewhere... Rick > >* From CrAzYjOn > >A feature you dont use doesn't take up DSP power. I think its a great idea, >any feature of a synth has it's uses...diffrent people like diffrent weapons >in their sonic arsenal.......... > >CrazyJon > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:21:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:27:05 +1100 (EST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Virus as a programmer. To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes Rather than making the Virus send messages that cater to a given synth, wouldn't it be better to make the CC messages generated by a given knob assignable? That is how mode 2 on my JP works. This allows me to send any CC message from any knob or slider. I currently have it setup to manipulate my Microwave II. IMHO,that would be the way to go... BTW: I personally would rather see the memory used elsewhere... Rick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 18:54:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:31:31 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Every party needs a Synthi X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >The Synthi-A can produce sounds which will remove ALL your fillings and kill a savage rodent at 30 metres. Hey, that's great! May we use this for t-shirts? Replace "SYNTHI-A" with "VIRUS", of course. Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:28:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:20:09 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: Where are my sounds??? Cc: anders.palmqvist@swipnet.se Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Can anyone help? >Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:27:19 +0100 >From: Anders Palmqvist Reply-To: anders.palmqvist@swipnet.se >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: list-admin@teklab.com >Subject: Where are my sounds??? > >Hello, I don´t know if this is the way to go, but I take a chance and see where it leads. The thing is that I uploaded the new OS 2.0 in my Virus synthesizer. >And eager to taste the vocoderpatches coming with it I made a total dump on my own >programming and loaded the second midifile. After fiddling around with the new patches for a while I wanted my own sounds back. No can do... >Ok, I know it was stupid of me not to check the dump before overwriting it. >But it seemed nicely recorded, and it still does, and I´ve never had any problem loading the OS to my Virus. >So I wonder if someone could take a look at this midi-file and find out what´s wrong with it. The message from the Virus is: >'checksum error! >reception failed' >And that´s shown when the sequencer reaches the first sysex-message. >I try to make the loading as an OS-loading, Store pressed on power-up... >Cubase 4.0, Macintosh, Opcode Studio 4. Thanks for all help. > >Anders, Sweden. > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Total Dump 412" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Total Dump 412" Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:Total Dump 412 (????/----) (0000A00D) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor]X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:37:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:24:04 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Ronald Pieket ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:28:47 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Ronald Pieket ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Thu Dec 10 01:28:44 1998 >Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA10062 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:28:44 -0800 Received: from best.com (dynamic20.pm06.sf3d.best.com [209.24.235.84]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with ESMTP id BAA16858 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:23:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <366F2244.E1FCB30B@best.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:22:33 +0000 >From: Ronald Pieket >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Vocoder Technique. >References: <199812071845.TAA11081@real-net.de> <366EC036.9A078340@lineone.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >b-La-roc wrote: > >>I also noticed this when vocoding . that sibilant sounds loose their >integrity >>. as mentioned by another list member ... is there a way of retaining the sibilants using a talk box or a vocoder ... which carriers are best for this work ? > >Some vocoders have a sibilant switch. When a sibilant is detected, it is passed >through, and replaces the regular carrier/modulator signal. > >- Ronald. > >(PS. If this message is also turned into one of those annoying "Fwd: BOUNCE" messages, I'm going to scream!) (Note from Jay - well, use the vocoder, sample it for us, upload it, and we'll enjoy it) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:37:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:25:53 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re:ASS, AVK Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 01:13 PM 12/10/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From di-mi@dds.nl >Yes! That's what I suggested once too! An Acces Step Sequencer. I also suggested an Access Sampler, with the same possibilities to change the OSC as the Virus has. Never heard a reaction though. Would this be a secret project of access? :-) >Dimitri. Please, oh please, oh please please please, Access ... *Don't* release any new gear for at least 6 months!! Because I'd *HAVE* to buy it instantly, based on the success of the Virus, and I just can't do that right now!!! :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:37:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:33:09 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 10 Dec 98 15:02:11 +0100, Raymund Beyer wrote: >-will it be able to run via sync to MTC _reliable_ especially on critical machines that are not even able to send the OS sysex dump? Sure not! I can allready hear the complaints... MTC? Irrelevant for a step-time sequencer. MIDI Clock is adequate. >-is it really necessary? As stated here before there are about 5-10 Logic Environments, that give you a quite good analog sequencer feel. Dont know if this is possible with Cubase though.... Not what I'd want on stage - if I wanted to trust a PC and fiddle with a mouse I'd use Seq-303 (which I do in the studio). >-wouldnt it be better to save the DSP power for sound capabilities? Different. Better implies you know the use that everyone puts their Virus to. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:37:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:33:11 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:00:50 EST, Synthworld@aol.com wrote: > I am new to the list and am about to be a new owner of a Virus. Hey Zon! Does this mean some of the best Virus patches we've ever heard are just around the corner? If your Nord Modular patches are anything to go by ... ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:51:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:33 -0800 To: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk From: Jay Vaughan Subject: WHY MESSAGES GET *BOUNCED* ON TEKLAB LISTS. Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, music-bar@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com, fss-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 02:06 PM 12/10/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Presumably this is a "bounce" Jay. I have been receiving a lot of these but the Virus list posts within messages like these do not reach me in the "normal" form. i.e. I only get certain posts in this format. This is a BOUNCE that *I* receive (as list administrator), and then forward on to the list. You can tell this, because the From: field says "jay@teklab.com" in it. I personally forward *BOUNCE* messages like this to TekLab lists for 2 reasons: a) so that it gets through, as it *is* someones contribution b) so that the sender can see the headers and work out what it is about their mail config that caused it to bounce. The *reason* we get bounces like this sometimes is because of the way that the TekLab lists are configured right now, and because there are some dufus system administrators out there in Internet land, who are probably just using the default sendmail config. TekLab lists are configured to prevent list members from receiving unsolicited SPAM. If my list processor software does not recognize your mail address (in other words, you haven't subscribed to the list), then it will bounce the mail to me for inspection. This means that SPAMMERS can't just post their message to every member of the TekLab lists by way of the individual list addresses - they'd have to subscribe to every mailing list first. But it *is* a bit painful for the odd list member - here is why: 1. Joe Blow has an e-mail address: jblow@hotlicks.com 2. He sends mail to majordomo@teklab.com with this in the message: subscribe access-list jblow@hotlicks.com 3. He gets subscribed to the access-list. 4. *HIS* e-mail server is really called 'licky'. So when his mail gets sent out (because *HIS* e-mail server admin is a dufus and hasn't configured sendmail properly), it gets sent out with a From: header of jblow@licky.hotlicks.com. 5. My mailing list software gets his message, and checks if he's a subscriber. It does not see 'jblow@licky.hotlicks.com' in the list of subscribers, so it *BOUNCES* the mail to me to review. 6. I, in my infinite wisdom and overworked condition, decide to forward the BOUNCE on to the list *anyway*, so that the message can be seen by all and the originator doesn't have to re-type it all, and so that the originator can see what's going on with his mail headers and fix it. You can fix it by: a) Beating the living crap out of your dufus e-mail system administrator. Assuming, of course, you can get him in front of you and there's a 3 foot piece of wood handy. Don't kill him though, because he'll need to be at least breathing in order to properly configure his mail software to not monkey around with the "From:" fields for his mail system users. b) Unsubscribing "jblow@hotlicks.com", and re-subscribing "jblow@licky.hotlicks.com" instead. This is probably the simplest solution. c) Giving up on the Internet, buying a shack in the wood and some old typewriters to use instead. [If you do option c), let me know, as I may, on occasion, get the desire to join you...] I hope that clears things up. This'll probably go in the "TekLab List FAQ" if and when I get the time to write one. Back to A3kDisky... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:47:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:39:37 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 01:20 AM 12/11/98 +0800, you wrote: >* From Rick Reyes >It does, however, take up memory (DSP memory?) that could be used elsewhere... >Rick Not DSP memory, but OS storage RAM - flash memory. Where are we at in that department these days, Access? Is the Virus OS getting close to filling available EEPROM space yet? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 19:55:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:48:05 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: OS Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:41 PM +0100 on 08.12.1998 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >ctually we can be happy about this competition, because it probably will make Motorola work even faster on more efficient and fast DSP's, that will stay compatible to the present architecture. but the important question remains: will the next Virus clean my house? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 20:13:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:12:41 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Every party needs a Synthi Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I want one! (me too, me too, and me too...) :-) Dimitri. At 18:31 10-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) > >>The Synthi-A can produce sounds which will remove ALL your fillings and kill a savage rodent at 30 metres. > >Hey, that's great! May we use this for t-shirts? Replace "SYNTHI-A" with "VIRUS", of course. > >Guido Kirsch >access music electronics >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 20:07:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:13:27 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Betrachtet Access wirklich Vorschläge in dieser Nachrichten Gruppe? Ich habe das Gefühl, das Access habt eigenen Pläne mit sehr kleine Einfluß vom Kommentar, der hier gebildet wird. Ich beschwere mich nicht. Ich wundere nur, mich wenn es irgendeinen Punkt gibt, wenn man Vorschläge bildet. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 03:36:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:19:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: wanted: lo-fi sampling freq. effect. (was Re: Ring Mod etc.) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:02 PM +0100 on 09.12.1998 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >At 18:38 9-12-98 +0100, you wrote: > >>I assume Access are already working on a ring modulator (are there *really* so many ring-mod fans out there?) >I am a REALLY big fan of a ring modulator! It has such a rich sound. I am sure you are aware of the "Moogerfooger" pedals developed by Bob Moog and Big Briar? They just came out with two pedals, a lowpass filter and a ringmodulator. I wouldn't want to say "it's a moog it must be cool", but they might be worth checking out... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 20:22:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick@europa.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:20:01 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: Sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick At 04:04 AM 12/11/98 +1100, you wrote: >* From Hugh Beaumont > >what i envision is something that is in reality just another arpeggiator mode. it would acutally be a different interface to the "as played" mode of the arpeggiator. from my understanding, the "as played" mode can hold a maximum of 16 notes. so the step sequencer would really just be a way to "dial in" notes using the knobs on the virus instead of a keyboard, one step at a time. Something like this would be really, really awesome; it'd be kinda like the sequencer in the Sequential Circuits Pro-One (still my favorite monophonic synth). However, I understand that there may be more pressing issues to take care of first. Certainly, a modulation matrix a la Oberheim would be extraordinarily useful. Nonetheless, a built-in sequencer would be a great selling point--"The Access Virus, featuring built-in Vocoder & Sequencer!" I've been contemplating is writing a little midi sequencer program for my PalmPilot, using the cool Pilot/Midi interface described at fargo.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/~gsmith/Pilot/PilotMidi.htm. Virus + Pilot = small, backpackable music system. Hopefully, I can actually get something like this up & running in the next month or so; if/when I do, I'll let y'all know. Then, if I could only power the Virus by battery, those long plane trips would become ever so much more enjoyable... :-) Christoph--One thing I'd love to know is, what's the size of the onboard Eeprom (or whatever y'all are using) in the Virus? Also, what's the approximate size in kb of the VirusOS? In other words, how much free space do you still have to work with? Access--you guys *rock*. I've never seen such support from *any* synth company before. Thanks very, very, very much... marc visnick marc@jli.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 03:36:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:23:15 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: article on vocoders, "keys" 1/99 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:35 AM +0100 on 10.12.1998 lowlifeform wrote: >For those German speakers among us: The new "Keys" (Jan. 1999) contains a quite interesting article on vocoders, to be continued in the Feb. and Mar. issues. And Christoph has earned himself 50 DM by publishing a few tips concerning the Virus. Hey, I think I'm gonna try that! great, how about a contest. He/she who can place most tips in Keys, wins... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 21:29:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 03:27:52 +0800 (SGT) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re:ASS, AVK To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes Yes Access, as long as the Virus keeps bringing revenue, stick with it and keep those killer updates coming. Then maybe later you can release the Plague with a new super powerful synthesiser/seq., whatever... Rick > >Please, oh please, oh please please please, Access ... *Don't* release any >new gear for at least 6 months!! Because I'd *HAVE* to buy it instantly, >based on the success of the Virus, and I just can't do that right now!!! > >:) > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 21:17:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 03:33:08 +0800 (SGT) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Sequencer To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes Ah Yes, OS storage RAM. Thanks for the info... Rick ---Jay Vaughan wrote: > >* From Jay Vaughan > >At 01:20 AM 12/11/98 +0800, you wrote: >>* From Rick Reyes >>It does, however, take up memory (DSP memory?) that could be used elsewhere... >>Rick > >Not DSP memory, but OS storage RAM - flash memory. > >Where are we at in that department these days, Access? Is the Virus OS >getting close to filling available EEPROM space yet? > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 03:36:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:08:25 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: (MIDI) Step Sequencer?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:34 PM +0100 on 10.12.1998 LFO wrote: >* From LFO > >Regarding the step sequencer- Ok, let me start to compile a list of MIDI hardware step sequencers and approximate prices in DM: Analog style: ------------- Doepfer Schaltwerk 8 rows,, 16 steps, 128 patterns, 8 songs.MIDI and CV/Gate apparently very flexible. big 2,500 DM (2,249 DM until 31.12.98) SND SAM-16 handmade to order 3,500 DM Doepfer MAQ 16/3 3 tracks, 16 buttons each, CV/Gate and MIDI 1,300 DM (1,169 DM until 31.12.98) Analogue systems TH-48 1,800 DM Notron weird shape. ? MAM SQ-16 620 DM Doepfer Regelwerk actually a midi faderbox, can be used as a sequencer 1,200 DM (1,079 DM until 31.12.98) Other: ------ Alesis MMT-8 8-track, few direct controls. nice muting feature. Seems a bit fragile. no longer in production 300 DM (?) used MF-player: ---------- Alesis Nanotracker (is that the name? i know nothing abnout it, I only know Alesis makes a small "Nano" type MF player. please feel free to add to this list... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 21:32:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: analogue sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:32:42 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Howard Scarr Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: donderdag 10 december 1998 13:00 Onderwerp: Re: analogue sequencer |* From "Howard Scarr" | |>Rob Papen wrote: |>Access: Just use an extra page in the Virus and use the front knops of the |>ADSTR (filter and env). |>We would have an eight step small sequencer. |>Sequencer page 1: note |>Sequencer page 2: note on/of |>Sequencer page 3: controller |>I could be to much and making the machine to complex, but it would be very |>cool. | |That's more like it! If you're going to have a special "Notes" mode for |this, you might as well make it 16 steps, using the SELECT buttons to switch |between the two pages, and also use the Filter mode and routing buttons/LEDs |to change step limits and octaves. However, you'd have to find a really neat |way of switching in and out of this mode, otherwise you can't tweak the |filters or envelopes on-the-fly! | | Jip. I would make right away some nice sounds for it together with some multies. Access.... ROB | | | | | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 21:46:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Wish Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:43:40 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Really wild would be LFO3 as source (for assign), although it's not a controller. Imagine it synced to the clock modulating any of those those destinations... delay time, twin spread, LFO3OscAmt (oh no - not that one!) ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 21:46:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: EMS gear Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:46:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >(Enough nostalgia - the Virus is tons better!) Better? I don't think a comparison is possible. Lets just say "different". I need my EMS stuff just as much as I need the Virus in the trax I do. The Synthi-A can produce sounds which will remove ALL your fillings and kill a savage rodent at 30 metres. True :-( I compare their "fun factors", and the fact that I can recreate most of my old sounds on the Virus. BTW: A buddy of mine started the official EMS site (he used to develop for them in Oxford until he was lured away by SSL). Check out http://www.hinton.demon.co.uk/ and links. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 01:18:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Every party needs a Synthi Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:07:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>The Synthi-A can produce sounds which will remove ALL your fillings and kill a savage rodent at 30 metres. >Hey, that's great! May we use this for t-shirts? Replace "SYNTHI-A" with "VIRUS", of course. Guido Kirsch >access music electronics But not "Every party needs a Virus" - people might take it the wrong way ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 22:22:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "LFO" To: Subject: SEQ-303 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:36:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "LFO" OK - the SEQ-303 MIDI step sequencer is cool - anybody know of anything comparable on the Mac platform? LFO ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 23:42:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: feature request... Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:43:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Hugh Beaumont > >plus it would be nice to have the step sequencer function in the arp mode so that one could transpose the patterns just by hitting different keys. Essential, I would say!!!!!!!! And when you hit a different key that there are no strange glitches or whatsoever!!! I heard quite a few arpeggiators in new synths and that you could freeze the arpeggiator and transpose with hitting one key... those would always come with strange side-effects such as hick-ups? in the tempo or whatever... Not on my old gear it doesn't... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 10 23:45:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: analogue sequencer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:48:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Rob Papen" > >Jip. I would make right away some nice sounds for it together with some multies. >Access.... It was the first thing I programmed when buying the Virus... For me, it misses the really great Moog-like bass sounds which where used by Schulze, Tangerine Dream etc etc... Now, I've got some...:-) And would be GREAT to use if there's ever going to be an analog step sequencer in it! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl (still, I would like to see a separate unit...not doing everything in one box...it gets too complicated) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 00:21:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: ASS, AVK Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:26:48 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness What? No Access Helicopter? Bogus! >>-----Original Message----- >>From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 12:41 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: ASS, AVK >> >> >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >> >> >>>Yes! That's what I suggested once too! An Acces Step >>>Sequencer. I also suggested an Access Sampler, with the same possibilities to change the OSC as the Virus has. Never heard a reaction though. Would this be a secret project of access? :-) >> >>Nice thought, but if someone would suggest us to come out with an Access >>Helicopter, we might not have reacted either :) _____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 00:55:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: Every party needs a Synthi Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:42:07 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From lowlifeform > >>(Enough nostalgia - the Virus is tons better!) > >Better? I don't think a comparison is possible. Lets just say "different". I need my EMS stuff just as much as I need the Virus in the trax I do. The Synthi-A can produce sounds which will remove ALL your fillings and kill a savage rodent at 30 metres. *Smirk*... I tried some sound set the other day with my *cough* AN1x and... well, I need decent speakers anyway. If they weren't busted before, they are now. Haven't seen any rat since, come to think of it. - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 00:55:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: ASS, AVK Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:49:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >>Yes! That's what I suggested once too! An Acces Step >>Sequencer. I also suggested an Access Sampler, with the same possibilities to change the OSC as the Virus has. Never heard a reaction though. Would this be a secret project of access? :-) > >Nice thought, but if someone would suggest us to come out with an Access Helicopter, we might not have reacted either :) Will the Access Helicopter have a controller matrix? I've always dreamed of flying a chopper with the radio controls. In the meantime, could you implement a fire-and-forget option into the Virus? Got to keep these rats away. - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 01:10:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: ASS, AVK Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:57:21 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From "Howard Scarr" > >Yes, yes, yes! That word "modular" gave me the following idea for two new products > >1. The ASS (Access Step Sequencer) - should be exactly the same size and format as the Virus > >2. The AVK (Access Virus Keyboard) - with a *tray* behind the keys to accomodate a Virus and an ASS, next to each other > >Or course the AVK should include a power supply for the whole "instrument", pedal and breath controller inputs etc :-) Yeah, and if you could cripple the sound, paint it silver, and put some samples and a dodgy screen on it, this would really be a hit. - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 01:11:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: Sequencer Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 01:09:30 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" From: Blackstone Hamilton >Betrachtet Access wirklich Vorschläge in dieser Nachrichten Gruppe? Ich habe >das Gefühl, das Access habt eigenen Pläne mit sehr kleine Einfluß vom Kommentar, der hier gebildet wird. > >Ich beschwere mich nicht. Ich wundere nur, mich wenn es irgendeinen Punkt gibt, wenn man Vorschläge bildet. Gibt es ein bestimmten Grund weshalb Sie uns Mitglied Ihrer Meinung auf Deutsch machen? - Peter (the confused Dutchman) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 01:34:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 01:35:03 +0100 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Bug found ? X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi List ! I´m not sure if this is a real bug , but the following is happen to me. For example : There are three sounds.Each sound on a different Stereo Output (like Out 1 L+R, Out 2 L+R...) On my mixer I have the signal from Out 2 L+R not only at one Fader . It`s also at the Fader where the signal from Out 1 L+R is . This only happens when I use an Effect on the Sound which is on Out 2 L+R. I`ve checked the Cablerouting and all Settings.I will check it out exactly tomorrow. It´s too late now. Any Ideas ? Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 02:08:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 02:05:04 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: RE: Sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf Blackstone Hamilton wrote: >Möglicherweise sollten Sie einen Blick an FreeStyle durch MOTU nehmen. >>Dieses Programm scheint wie es würde tun den Trick. >Betrachtet Access wirklich Vorschläge in dieser Nachrichten Gruppe? Ich habe >das Gefühl, das Access habt eigenen Pläne mit sehr kleine Einfluß vom >Kommentar, der hier gebildet wird. > > >Ich beschwere mich nicht. Ich wundere nur, mich wenn es irgendeinen Punkt >>gibt, wenn man Vorschläge bildet. uhm, excuse me, but... i was just wondering: that funny language youre inventning in some of your recent messages, is it supposed to be german? i thought this was an english speaking list, anyway. oh well, i guess this is what you native speakers of english are experiencing all the time: us people from the rest of the world doing terrible things to your beautyful language all the time... never mind. und nichts für ungut. mw ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 02:44:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:49:32 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Communication Breakdown Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com PLEASE ANYONE HELP ME GET OFF THIS LIST ASAP!!!!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE. MONOKROM Sascha Kujawa wrote: >* From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >>heya< > >>Everytime i try to send Sounds to Sounddiver, it just says " Virus in not answering!!" >>What am i doing wrong ?? > >Which adaptation? There are 3 or 4 different... > >Maybe you configured a wrong midi port? Maybe the device ID is not matching (VirusOmni=17) > >With greetings from Germany > >Sascha Kujawa >Quality Assurance Manager >Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH > >private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 02:46:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:51:09 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: analogue sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Rob, Would you please HELP me get off this list ASAP. I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR A MONTH. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!! MONOKROM Rob Papen wrote: >* From "Rob Papen" > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Howard Scarr >Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: donderdag 10 december 1998 13:00 >Onderwerp: Re: analogue sequencer > >|* From "Howard Scarr" | >|>Rob Papen wrote: >|>Access: Just use an extra page in the Virus and use the front knops of the |>ADSTR (filter and env). >|>We would have an eight step small sequencer. |>Sequencer page 1: note >|>Sequencer page 2: note on/of >|>Sequencer page 3: controller >|>I could be to much and making the machine to complex, but it would be very |>cool. >| >|That's more like it! If you're going to have a special "Notes" mode for |this, you might as well make it 16 steps, using the SELECT buttons to switch >|between the two pages, and also use the Filter mode and routing buttons/LEDs >|to change step limits and octaves. However, you'd have to find a really neat >|way of switching in and out of this mode, otherwise you can't tweak the |filters or envelopes on-the-fly! >| >| >Jip. I would make right away some nice sounds for it together with some multies. >Access.... > >ROB > >| >| >| >| >| >|___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 02:47:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:52:33 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ASS, AVK Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com JAY, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE HELP ME GET OFF THIS LIST ASAP!!!!!!! PLEASE, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR A MONTH NOW... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!! MONOKROM Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >At 01:13 PM 12/10/98 +0000, you wrote: >>* From di-mi@dds.nl >>Yes! That's what I suggested once too! An Acces Step Sequencer. I also suggested an Access Sampler, with the same possibilities to change the OSC as the Virus has. Never heard a reaction though. Would this be a secret project of access? :-) >>Dimitri. > >Please, oh please, oh please please please, Access ... *Don't* release any new gear for at least 6 months!! Because I'd *HAVE* to buy it instantly, based on the success of the Virus, and I just can't do that right now!!! > >:) > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 02:49:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:54:37 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Raymund, Can you please help me get off this list asap? Please help me!!!!!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!! I'v been trying for a month... David Raymund Beyer wrote: >* From Raymund Beyer > >Hi List, > >I can unterstand that some of you want a sequencer, but think about a few things: > >-will it be able to run via sync to MTC _reliable_ especially on critical machines that are not even able to send the OS sysex dump? Sure not! I can allready hear the complaints... >I also have an AN1x which has a sequencer, but it is allmost unusable without the Sound Diver (or Yamaha) Editor. Also in Midi-sync it has timing problems and this with a very tight and reliable system. > >-is it really necessary? As stated here before there are about 5-10 Logic Environments, that give you a quite good analog sequencer feel. Dont know if this is possible with Cubase though.... > >-wouldnt it be better to save the DSP power for sound capabilities? > >Only thoughts > >RAy > >----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de >http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 >ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >----------------------------------------------------------- > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 02:59:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:54:58 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: unsubscribe Cc: monokrom@sirius.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan DONE! Except for a few messages you may receive (spooled before I unsubscribed you manually), you will no longer receive messages from the access-list... At 05:58 PM 12/10/98 -0800, you wrote: >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!!!!! > >PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!! > > > >evening wrote: > >>* From evening >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 02:53:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:58:29 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!!!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!! evening wrote: >* From evening > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 04:01:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 03:52:07 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Bug found ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:35 AM +0100 on 11.12.1998 Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > >Hi List ! > >I´m not sure if this is a real bug , but the following is happen to me. For example : There are three sounds.Each sound on a different Stereo Output >(like Out 1 L+R, Out 2 L+R...) >On my mixer I have the signal from Out 2 L+R not only at one Fader . It`s also >at the Fader where the signal from Out 1 L+R is . This only happens when I use >an Effect on the Sound which is on Out 2 L+R. well, there are two things to take into consideration: first: where is the efffect routed to, second: the FX send, sends the signal into a bus, that is then routed to the FX. Thus if you send something into the delay line from part 1 and part 2, the FX output contains both signals. it sounds like a seolution to your problem could be to route the fx to OUT 3 L+R and adjust that to your taste, that way you can edit the other sounds individually in the mixer. I`ve checked the >Cablerouting and >all Settings.I will check it out exactly tomorrow. It´s too late now. > >Any Ideas ? > > >Stay Fresh , Stay Cool > >Jens Wegerhoff > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 08:15:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: CikiraMidi@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 02:10:32 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CikiraMidi@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 17:50:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:44:59 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: WHY MESSAGES GET *BOUNCED* ON TEKLAB LISTS. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >You can fix it by: >a) Beating the living crap out of your dufus e-mail system administrator. Assuming, of course, you can get him in front of you and there's a 3 foot piece of wood handy. Don't kill him though, because he'll need to be at least breathing in order to properly configure his mail software to not monkey around with the "From:" fields for his mail system users. But everything worked fine until a few weeks ago. So did several system administrators, on several unrelated servers around the world, suddenly and simultaneously decide to monkey around with their customers' messages? Or did somebody change something at Teklab which messed things up? Also, I notice that in the messages from me which get bounced as forwarded by Jay, the From field reads "From: Ronald Pieket ", which is, in fact, the exact name I used to subscribe to the list. So how exactly is this "monkeyed"? - Ronald Pieket. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 12:33:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:15:21 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Bug found ? X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > > > >well, there are two things to take into consideration: first: where is the efffect routed to, second: the FX send, sends the signal into a bus, that is then routed to the FX. Thus if you send something into the delay line from part 1 and part 2, the FX output contains both signals. > >it sounds like a seolution to your problem could be to route the fx to OUT 3 L+R and adjust that to your taste, that way you can edit the other sounds individually in the mixer. > Ahh Yes , what a dump mistake is happend to me.You´re right. I can´t believe I thought that this was a bug.I Think it was "too" late last night. Thank you canine and give me a shot in my head for writing crap. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 12:29:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:28:24 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Off topic - Language barrier (was Sequencer) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >>M–glicherweise sollten Sie einen Blick an FreeStyle durch MOTU nehmen. Dieses Programm scheint wie es w¸rde tun den Trick. >uhm, excuse me, but... i was just wondering: that funny language youre inventning in some of your recent messages, is it supposed to be >german? If I "reverse engineer" this stuff, word for word, back into the Queen's (or the President's - for you Americans) English, it is obvious that it has been translated by some kind of really bad computer programme. For instance: "nehmen" (take) "einen" (a) "Blick" (look) "an" (at). But in German one might say "einen Blick auf etwas werfen" (literally: To throw (!!) a look on something). As you can see, the "looking" is performed in opposite directions, depending on which language you are speaking. Which means that the languages are not only separated by different words and grammar, but also by the way of thinking. It might take some time for computer programmes master this concept. LoLife. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 13:08:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:06:49 +0000 (GMT) To: monokrom@sirius.com, access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Poor you, don't you like us anymore? ;-p Check out the URL and follow the instructions you can find under access-mailinglist. DOnt forget: The email adress to unsubscribe is a different one than the mailadress to send messages to for the list! Regards, Dimitri. monokrom@sirius.com schreef: >* From monokrom@sirius.com> >PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!!!!! > >PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!! > > > >evening wrote: > >>* From evening >> >> ____________________________________________________________ _______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > >___________________________________________________________ ________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 14:33:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:32:03 -0000 Subject: Re: SEQ-303 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" Hi LFO >OK - the SEQ-303 MIDI step sequencer is cool - anybody know of anything comparable on the Mac platform? Yes there is. It is a fantastic software (shareware) that is a product of research based in one alternative Midi system for the mac "Midishare" that is compatible with OMS. The Analog sequencer is part of a modular sequencer system that you can build at your will, like any TR-X0X machine and bassline like, its great it is called "Modularing" and you can get it and any info (a lot of it...not very simple to install, but gets no Problems under 7.5.5 and a 68040 that is what I use) at: www.milprod.com Enjoy it, its amazing...especialy with a virus ; ) I stopped using it because I got a Doepfer Regelwerk that is also great as a very simple stepSequencer...and is hardware !!!! Hope it helps, Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 14:54:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mz_mail@pop.gmx.de Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:54:05 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >unsubscribe Oh no, not again. Did anyone EVER read the welcome-mail??? And something quite strange happens from time to time: some files called "WINMAIL.DAT" appear embedded in emails and on my computer. What the hell are these files about? Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 16:26:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:25:59 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: compiled access list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >wouldn't it be great to have 1 single mail a day with all the mailings in it, because every day turning on your pc and get the message that you received over 50 mails is getting a bit too much. >I remember some mailinglists had a 'digest', where the best mails of each day were compiled, would be great for this acces-list too. The mails were getting a bit much for me to receive at work too, so I decided to subscribe to usa.net just for the access stuff. It costs nothing and you have up to 5MB storage for your mails. I don't like the idea of someone filtering the mails and compiling a "best of" for each day. The things which interest me may not interest you. LoLife (john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 15:49:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:49:01 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: compiled acces list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com wouldn't it be great to have 1 single mail a day with all the mailings in it, because every day turning on your pc and get the message that you received over 50 mails is getting a bit too much . I remember some mailinglists had a 'digest', where the best mails of each day were compiled, would be great for this acces-list too. right now I'm affraid i will have to unsubscribe by the time I go on holliday because 20 days with 50 mails each make al huge number of mails. greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 18:01:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Sequencer Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:07:04 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Peter Korsten [mailto:pkorsten@xs4all.nl] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 4:10 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: Sequencer >> >> >>* From "Peter Korsten" >> >>From: Blackstone Hamilton >> >> >>>Betrachtet Access wirklich Vorschläge in dieser Nachrichten >>Gruppe? Ich >>habe >>>das Gefühl, das Access habt eigenen Pläne mit sehr kleine >>Einfluß vom >>>Kommentar, der hier gebildet wird. >>> >>>Ich beschwere mich nicht. Ich wundere nur, mich wenn es >>irgendeinen Punkt >>>gibt, wenn man Vorschläge bildet. >> >>Gibt es ein bestimmten Grund weshalb Sie uns Mitglied Ihrer Meinung auf >>Deutsch machen? >> Zwei Gründe für dieses, meinen Deutschen zu üben und zweitens, weil ich möglicherweise es dachte, waren für uns die Amerikaner zum Verwenden nur englisches arrogant. Technisch gab ich nie mein Urteil auf Deutsch ab, stellte ich nur eine Frage über anbietensuggesstions. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 18:09:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Sequencer Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:14:42 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness My apologies for such horrible syntax. I thought perhaps it was arrogant for us Americans to assume the world should only speak English. However, I have begun to realize that I may be doing even worse by attempting to use my hacked up German. Unless, absolutely necessary, I'll stop. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: michael wolf [mailto:michael.wolf@rz.hu-berlin.de] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 5:05 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: RE: Sequencer >> >> >>* From michael wolf >> >>Blackstone Hamilton wrote: >> >>>Möglicherweise sollten Sie einen Blick an FreeStyle durch >>MOTU nehmen. >>>>Dieses Programm scheint wie es würde tun den Trick. >> >>>Betrachtet Access wirklich Vorschläge in dieser Nachrichten >>Gruppe? Ich >>>habe >das Gefühl, das Access habt eigenen Pläne mit sehr >>kleine Einfluß >>>vom >Kommentar, der hier gebildet wird. >>> >>> >>>Ich beschwere mich nicht. Ich wundere nur, mich wenn es >>irgendeinen Punkt >>>>gibt, wenn man Vorschläge bildet. >> >>uhm, excuse me, but... i was just wondering: that funny language youre >>inventning in some of your recent messages, is it supposed to be german? >> >>i thought this was an english speaking list, anyway. >> >>oh well, i guess this is what you native speakers of english are experiencing all the time: us people from the rest of the world doing terrible things to your beautyful language all the time... >> >>never mind. >> >>und nichts für ungut. >> >>mw >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 18:46:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 18:43:47 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: compiled access list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, I receive over 100 mails every day, and I don't have much time either. Still, things work fine for me. Try this: In Netscape (and every other mailing program as well, I think), you can filter your messages. So, I have about 10 filters for all mailinglists I'm subscribed to. The mails of the mailinglists are transferred automatically to a dedicated map I made. I have different maps for several mailinglist: Access, Waldorf, Emagic Logic, Yamaha AN1x,... It's very easy to browse through your mails and you only have to read the ones that are interesting. This means I mostly read about 30 of the 100 mails. >>I remember some mailinglists had a 'digest', where the best mails of each day were compiled, would be great for this acces-list too. Digests are more difficult to read: you mostly have to read the things that you're not interested as well. Maybe this helps ! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 19:08:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:07:12 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: For those who want to unsubscribe because there's too much mail Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! For those who want to unsubscribe because there's too much mail: I am trying to collect all messages. I put them on my homepage once a month in a zipped txt format. It's available on my page at http://145.99.128.7/dimi Check within some days, after this weekend I'll have it updated again. It starts at june 1998 and goes till now. Dimitri. At 15:25 11-12-98, you wrote: >* From lowlifeform > > >>wouldn't it be great to have 1 single mail a day with all the mailings in it, because every day turning on your pc and get the message that you received over 50 mails is getting a bit too much. > >>I remember some mailinglists had a 'digest', where the best mails of each day were compiled, would be great for this acces-list too. > > >The mails were getting a bit much for me to receive at work too, so I decided to subscribe to usa.net just for the access stuff. It costs nothing and you have up to 5MB storage for your mails. > >I don't like the idea of someone filtering the mails and compiling a "best of" for each day. The things which interest me may not interest you. > >LoLife >(john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de) > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 20:17:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:09:07 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: WHY MESSAGES GET *BOUNCED* ON TEKLAB LISTS. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan > thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. Option a) would involve getting someone in this institution to put their hand up for being the person with responsibility for doing this - a process which could take several months. Option c) does seem very attractive and I often find myself considering it along with selling all my musical instruments that have any silicon or germanium in them. Is it me that has to take option b) or just the people whose messages end up posted as bounces. This doesn't seem to be happening to my mails but the fact that you asked me the other day whether my correct address included the name of my server would tend to indicate that you had been getting bounces from me. Do I need to do anything? Steve - the only time you need to do anything is if you find that your posts are not getting through to the list - i.e. you send something to access-list and it doesn't get posted (you'll get a copy back, of course, if it does get posted). Thanks for asking! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 22:06:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:20:09 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: clicking sounds To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt I'm having an annoying problem. When I turn my virus into multi-mode, I've got those really iritating clicking sounds at the beginning of each note, even when I'm using just one sound (in multi). This doesn't occur in single mode while using the same sounds. Has anoyone got an idea what I'm doing wrong? It's starting to bother me seriously... V.S. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 21:40:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: and still having problems with v2.0 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:38:18 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >This is ridiculous - I've tried updating from 1.54 to 2.0 with every sequenzer i could get (Cubase, Logic, Jazz, Cakewalk etc.) On cakewalk, make sure the Virus is connected to the *first* MIDI port in your system and send the file at 75 bpm...worked fine for me with Cakewalk 6.0 on every OS version so far. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 23:36:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:35:32 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: clicking sounds in demo! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Now I am getting seriously concerned! When I play the demo, i very clearly hear a clicking noise. Like my speaker is blown up! But it also appears when I listen to the demo by headphone. To be sure that my Virus wasn't broke, I downgraded to OS 1.53, and there were no clicks. But of course i'd still like to use the vocoder. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 12 00:53:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: clicking sounds in demo! Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:56:12 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Now I am getting seriously concerned! > >When I play the demo, i very clearly hear a clicking noise. Like my speaker >is blown up! But it also appears when I listen to the demo by headphone. To be sure that my Virus wasn't broke, I downgraded to OS 1.53, and there were no clicks. >But of course i'd still like to use the vocoder. This topic keeps coming back... And yes, I sometimes have those clicking problems too... Still don't have a clue what it is, but I have seen several guys with the same problem about the clicking at the start of each note and I'm wondering if it's not a bug or whatever... Does Int+Midi got something to do with it????? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 11:13:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: jay@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 10:11:27 +0000 Subject: Re: WHY MESSAGES GET *BOUNCED* ON TEKLAB LISTS. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > You can fix it by: > > a) Beating the living crap out of your dufus e-mail system administrator. Assuming, of course, you can get him in front of you and there's a 3 foot piece of wood handy. Don't kill him though, because he'll need to be at least breathing in order to properly configure his mail software to not monkey around with the "From:" fields for his mail system users. > > b) Unsubscribing "jblow@hotlicks.com", and re-subscribing "jblow@licky.hotlicks.com" instead. This is probably the simplest solution. > > c) Giving up on the Internet, buying a shack in the wood and some old typewriters to use instead. > >[If you do option c), let me know, as I may, on occasion, get the desire to join you...] Hi Jay, thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. Option a) would involve getting someone in this institution to put their hand up for being the person with responsibility for doing this - a process which could take several months. Option c) does seem very attractive and I often find myself considering it along with selling all my musical instruments that have any silicon or germanium in them. Is it me that has to take option b) or just the people whose messages end up posted as bounces. This doesn't seem to be happening to my mails but the fact that you asked me the other day whether my correct address included the name of my server would tend to indicate that you had been getting bounces from me. Do I need to do anything? Cheers Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 11 11:38:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: michael.wolf@rz.hu-berlin.de, access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 10:36:00 +0000 Subject: RE: Sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >uhm, excuse me, but... i was just wondering: that funny language youre inventning in some of your recent messages, is it supposed to be german? > >i thought this was an english speaking list, anyway. > >oh well, i guess this is what you native speakers of english are experiencing all the time: us people from the rest of the world doing terrible things to your beautyful language all the time... > >never mind. > >und nichts fur ungut. > >mw > Er... yes well quite a few odd and amusing bits of bad English turn up from time to time but personally I am just grateful that everyone is prepared to talk in English which means that I don't have to learn German or whatever. I am more than happy to forgive any such errors - keep them coming. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 12 20:44:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:40:50 +0100 From: molter To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking sounds Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From molter hi. i got the same problem. cheers christian Valentijn Steenhoudt schrieb: >* From Valentijn Steenhoudt > >I'm having an annoying problem. >When I turn my virus into multi-mode, I've got those really iritating clicking sounds at the beginning of each note, even when I'm using just one sound (in multi). >This doesn't occur in single mode while using the same sounds. Has anoyone got an idea what I'm doing wrong? It's starting to bother me seriously... > >V.S. > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 12 21:27:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [171.208.132.199] From: "Thorsten P–rschke" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:26:40 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thorsten P–rschke" unsubscribe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 12 21:45:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 15:43:38 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Knob Display- bug? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com I have upgraded my Virus to ver. 2.0, and I noticed that the display behaves like the KnobDispl parameter is set to "ON," even though I have mine set to "SHORT." In fact, it seems to make no difference how I set the display, when I tweak a knob, the parameter just stays there. Obviously not fatal, but either I am doing something wrong or it is in fact a minor bug. Anyone else notice this? Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 01:35:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 01:32:08 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Knob Display- bug? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:43 PM +0100 on 12.12.1998 Marzzz@aol.com wrote: >Obviously not fatal, but either I am doing something wrong or it is in fact a minor bug. > >Anyone else notice this? Hm, all to the contrary. Since updating to 2.00 I found the knob display "short" to be too short. I just recently set mine to "long" to compensate. Could be me, but I just feel more comfortable with "long". think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 01:35:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 01:33:00 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: clicking sounds in demo! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:56 AM +0100 on 12.12.1998 Marcel Engels wrote: >Does Int+Midi got something to do with it????? I am using Int+Midi and do not experience any clicking. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 02:44:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: ASS, AVK Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:42:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Ich schrieb einmal: >>1. The ASS (Access Step Sequencer) - should be exactly the same size and format as the Virus >>2. The AVK (Access Virus Keyboard) - with a *tray* behind the keys to accomodate a Virus and an ASS, next to each other Or course the AVK should include a power supply for the whole "instrument", pedal and breath controller inputs etc :-) >Yeah, and if you could cripple the sound, paint it silver, and put some samples and a dodgy screen on it, this would really be a hit. (And call it something with "ity" on the end? ;-)) Ahem! The (serious) suggestions above would not cripple the Virus in the slightest - they would be extra units to take or leave. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 02:44:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Knob Display- bug? Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:42:42 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I have upgraded my Virus to ver. 2.0, and I noticed that the display behaves like the KnobDispl parameter is set to "ON," even though I have mine set to "SHORT." In fact, it seems to make no difference how I set the display, when I tweak a knob, the parameter just stays there. ...Anyone else notice this? >Marshall As far as I remember it's supposed to do this in Multi/Single modes. If you're in Ctrl or Edit, you should definitely see the display flip back to the correct parameter. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 08:56:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:53:15 -0500 From: Chee Keong Loh X-Sender: lohc@skule.ecf To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: AARgh, Crackling sounds on my Virus. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chee Keong Loh There seems to be static noise every time i turn the resonance up for every sound. I've tried it with all 3 outs and the the crackilng is still there. I bought this off someone and he didn't send in the guarantee form... so,, how do i get about fixing this? I'm from Toronto, btw. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 13:21:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:47:26 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: AARgh, Crackling sounds on my Virus. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:53 AM +0100 on 13.12.1998 Chee Keong Loh wrote: >There seems to be static noise every time i turn the resonance up for every sound. I've tried it with all 3 outs and the the crackilng is still there. First try to reset the Virus: hold down both LFO shape buttons and switch teh Virus on until the display reads "Reload pactory patches..." (answer no unless you want to overwrite existing sounds). See if this helps. Otherwise you could try to update the system to 2.00, a fresh system might sound fresh too... >I bought this off someone and he didn't send in the guarantee form... so,, how do i get about fixing this? I'm from Toronto, btw. contact the distributor for your country (Hm, I don't even know who does it for Canada) and ask them about their policy. The address might be on the guarantee form. It's usually good enough to send in the warranty information together with the faulty product... good luck! BTW: why did the guy sell the Virus? he must have been crrazy...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 12:53:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:52:33 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: digest Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht hi folks, it is true that digests can do a little time-warp (when you receive the last 7 weeks in one bundle), but a very active list like this one would not make such problems. list managing programs let you choose either the immediate or the digest mode, so it is up to you what you prefer. if you collect certain messages, the digest format is bad because it kills the topic line & you can not find threads so easily. i keep switching to digest mode if possible because it takes less time to be payed for if several mails come in one bulk instead of many short messages one after the other also, if i am away from the computer for some days, it is much better with digests than thousends of mails... regards .g.a. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 15:21:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:20:39 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Knob Display- bug? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Hmm, maybe it would be a nice option that in stead of on, long , short and off, one could set the knobdisplay to 0-255, where a step is 1/10th of a second, 0 is off and 255 is on, though i'd prefer a ring modulator. ;-) Dimitri. At 01:32 13-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:43 PM +0100 on 12.12.1998 Marzzz@aol.com wrote: >>Obviously not fatal, but either I am doing something wrong or it is in fact a >>minor bug. >Hm, all to the contrary. Since updating to 2.00 I found the knob display "short" to be too short. I just recently set mine to "long" to compensate. Could be me, but I just feel more comfortable with "long". ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 15:28:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:27:35 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 14:54 11-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >And something quite strange happens from time to time: some files called "WINMAIL.DAT" appear embedded in emails and on my computer. What the hell are these files about? Those are ugly, annoying files, which come from.... windows! When one sends email with an Outlook client, it adds winmail.dat, which contains some kind of binairy word-document. This way you can send letters in different fonts, size, etc. Outlook users have a 'nice layout', and you have a binairy on your harddisk, but when you use Outlook too, that won't be a problem anymore. Another ugly MS-strategy. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 17:14:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:12:10 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Knob Display- more bugs? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/13/98 8:27:43 AM, di-mi@dds.nl writes: <> And while we are on the subject, now that I am paying much closer attention to the display, I have noticed that the "effective range" of EVERY knob is limited- by this I mean that say a parameter has a range of 0-127, and the knob itself goes from the 7 o'clock to the 5 o'clock position- on the display, the value doesn't start changing from zero until the knob reaches nearly the 9 o'clock position, and reaches 127 at the 3 o'clock position. This leaves quite a bit of useless "dead zone" on each knob. I believe someone mentioned something like this in the past- this CAN'T be correct operation- can it be fixed? This is significantly more disturbing to me than the Knobdispl being constantly on, no matter how I set it in the menu......I am using vers. 2.00....... Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 19:37:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:32:01 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: 2.01 posted to my page Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" As announced by christoph 2.01 is here. It contains the new parameter Spectral Balance which will balance the Spectrum. maybe it was Rectal Balance and it will balance your rectum? oops. Different list...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 13 22:35:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Martin Selway" To: Subject: Re: 2.01 posted to my page Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:32:35 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Selway" Nice, MARTIN -----Original Message----- From: K.9 Kai Niggemann To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 13. december 1998 19:49 Subject: 2.01 posted to my page >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >As announced by christoph 2.01 is here. > >It contains the new parameter Spectral Balance which will balance the Spectrum. >maybe it was Rectal Balance and it will balance your rectum? oops. Different list...;) > > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 03:10:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:51:51 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: Knob Display- more bugs? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont >knob itself goes from the 7 o'clock to the 5 o'clock position- on the display, >the value doesn't start changing from zero until the knob reaches nearly the 9 >o'clock position, and reaches 127 at the 3 o'clock position. This leaves quite >a bit of useless "dead zone" on each knob. while i have no answer to this problem, i can say that i have noticed several other modules whose knobs show this same behavior. so i do not think it is a problem which is isolated to the virus. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: skujawa@mail.emagic.de Mon Dec 14 09:40:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: "Jörg Wessels" Cc: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Problem mit der Virus-Adaption für SoundDiver Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:34:06 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Reply-To: skujawa@mail.emagic.de >heya< Inzwischen hab ich es testweise mal downgeloaded... Das ZIP scheint inzwischen in der Tat defekt zu sein... Kannst aber auf die Schnelle auch die Mac Version nehmen (das Adaptionsfile muß nur noch die Endung .ada bekommen). >>Winzip (Version 6.3) kann anscheinend nichts mit der Datei virus_pc.zip anfangen. Es erscheint die Fehlermeldung "start of central directory not found; Zip file corrupt. Possible cause: file transfer error". Die Wiederholung des Downloads brachte nichts. Haben andere das gleiche Problem? >Soweit ich weiß, nicht... >SoundDiver 3.6 wird allerdings die Tage fällig. Darin wird auch eine aktuelle Adaption zu finden sein. With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisionsX-From_: skujawa@mail.emagic.de Mon Dec 14 09:45:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: canine@muenster.de Subject: Re: 2.01 posted to my page Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:39:58 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Reply-To: skujawa@mail.emagic.de >heya< >As announced by christoph 2.01 is here. It contains the new parameter Spectral Balance which will balance the Spectrum. maybe it was Rectal Balance and it will balance your rectum? oops. Different list...;) Oh... gerade entdeckt... werde schnell noch den Parameter in die Adaption einbauen... With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisionsX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 13:49:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:44:27 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: OS bug? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen When I try to initialise the system, the display shows two different messages. 1. Illeg. Bank/Prog? CS_V: 2. Copy_2.S51 What the hell this means? I know, that I should update the OS but I have been touring for five weeks all over Finland and didn't have the time. In a couple of days I'll get 2.00. In the meantime, does anybody know about this? The other thing I'm interested about: Do you tour with the Virus ? If you do, has it been reliable in live situations? I had some troubles during the tour. -the parameter INPUT MODE goes sometimes to value "illegal" when the power is switched off. This happens only with B-bank patches. Result: I must go to set the value to "off" and do it for 127 times. -all the leds go off except LFO1 rate and LFO2 rate. This can happen anytime. -the output volume decreases when turning the "cutoff" or other filter knobs. It happens sometimes and then again it's gone. NICE! I truly hope these are all OS (1.53) bugs, otherwise I must give up trying to play the Virus live. I love the way it sounds but it has caused me a lot of troubles too. Maybe it hates travelling...or something, me? --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 14:44:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: SoundDiver 2.0.6 Update available Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:37:47 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< SoundDiver 2.0.6 Mac OS und Windows available via Internet at: http://www.emagic.de/english/updates/index.html It also contains the new Virus adaptation. Virus OS 2.01 already supported within the single patch editor. With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 15:26:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:22:20 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: OS bug? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:44 PM +0100 on 14.12.1998 Mara Salminen wrote: >I truly hope these are all OS (1.53) bugs, otherwise I must give up trying to play the Virus live. I love the way it sounds but it has caused me a lot of troubles too. Maybe it hates travelling...or something, me? wow, those are serious issues. However since 1.53 has been around for a while and seems to be almost bug free (once named a reference release by some) and noone else had these problems (at least noone on the list complained about these) I would suspect that your virus is sick with some sort of an error. Let's hope it's just software (try resetting it, by pressing both LFO Shape buttons until the display reads "Reload factory patches" If you answer no to this (and the two following questions) your sounds will remain in there, but some other parameters, (globals etc) will have been restored, sometimes clearing up problems. otherwise it might be a hardware problem. update to 2.01 and see if the problems (or other serious stuff) persists, then contact the local distributor for Finland... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 17:02:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:55:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >Outlook users have a 'nice layout', and you have a binairy on your harddisk, but when you use Outlook too, that won't be a problem anymore. Another ugly MS-strategy. Thanks Dimitri. I had almost guessed that this would be another MSoft thing. I blamed the Internet Exploder, though. Any ideas how to get rid of these files? (No, deleting them manually as they appear is not what I want ;) Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 17:00:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: compiled acces list Date: Mon, 14 Dec 98 17:05:22 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de From: Raymund Beyer To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com wrote: >* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com > >wouldn't it be great to have 1 single mail a day with all the mailings in it, because every day turning on your pc and get the message that you received over 50 mails is getting a bit too much . > >I remember some mailinglists had a 'digest', where the best mails of each day were compiled, would be great for this acces-list too. > >right now I'm affraid i will have to unsubscribe by the time I go on holliday because 20 days with 50 mails each make al huge number of mails. Well - I think its not so nice having a digest version, because you cant look though a thread so easyly. As Joeri has stated before it is much better to create a filter for your mailing program. Anyway - it would be great to have the choice between the single mail and the digest version! SO anyone can choose. They have it running on the Logic-list like this and I think its the best way. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 23:49:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:09:55 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: JAY! READ THIS: MPC2000 /w Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker Jay Vaughan wrote: >>1) I heard that the Mpc won't load .mids biger than a certain ammount, i can't remeber exactly how big, but because of this i can't update my OS via the mpc, it there a way around it? >> load the os into a pc-sequenzer and cut them into two parts > > >>3) I can't load any patches i get. The mpc WILL load them, yet it does not seem to be transmitting to the virus, even though it's all set up properly. Any ideas? >> check your settings: rx sysex and the correct midi channel and mpc track (which really is containing the sysex-data) >>Anyone else using an mpc2000 with their virus? >> >>thanx, >> >>Eric >> >> > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 23:15:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:03:40 +0100 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Dump 2.01 with Cakewalk X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi Listers !! Is anybody outthere who has tried to dump the 2.01 OS with Cakewalk? I tried, but no success.Cakewalk interrupts the transmission at block 2 data 127. With Logic it works.Why is Cakewalk now unable to dump? Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 00:31:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:13:31 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Who made the factory patches? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:29 PM +0100 on 09.12.1998 Peter Mischke wrote: >I would like to know, who made the factory patches of the virus. Reading this mailinglist I guess: > >RP -> sounds by Rob Papen >K -> sounds by Christoph Kemper > >Is this true? And what about the unmarked patches? different people from around the world. Several I know were made by Paul Nagle (also on this list) others were made by different German techno people. And one of them is actually called Utz (first name...;) I think some where made by aliens I was told though...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 14 23:44:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:46:40 -0800 From: Aaron Johnston Organization: huh? To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: compiled acces list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron Johnston I use a mail filter for the Access list serve but the folder that I filter it into currently has over 500 messages in it. When I do have the time to go through them, I usually find that over half of the messages are merely personal follow-ups to a post that contain no real useful information. These include messages from people that say, "Cool! I like that idea!" or something similar and nothing else. I think that if a post doesn't include some sort of information that other subscribers can actually use or benefit from, I think it would be better to send the message privately to the personal address of the subscriber (if that subscriber divulges their address that is). I ran a mailing list for a few months that went down because too many people used it to "chat." Also, everyone seemed to feel a need to follow up every post that they liked with a superfluous, "Yes! Great idea!" message that said nothing else and offered nothing to the rest of the mailing list. Forgive me for sounding like a grumpy asshole. I love the Virus list. It's definitely the most useful mailing list I have ever been on and I do consider it to be an absolute necessity for all Virus owners. I just wish it was a little more focused. I agree that digests are useless. They relieve the mass mail problem but make reading a thread very difficult (even if you do keyword searches). Raymund Beyer wrote: >* From Raymund Beyer > >steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com wrote: > >>* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >> >>wouldn't it be great to have 1 single mail a day with all the mailings in it, because every day turning on your pc and get the message that you received over 50 mails is getting a bit too much . >> >>I remember some mailinglists had a 'digest', where the best mails of each day were compiled, would be great for this acces-list too. >> >>right now I'm affraid i will have to unsubscribe by the time I go on holliday because 20 days with 50 mails each make al huge number of mails. > >Well - I think its not so nice having a digest version, because you cant look though a thread so easyly. As Joeri has stated before it is much better to create a filter for your mailing program. > >Anyway - it would be great to have the choice between the single mail and the digest version! SO anyone can choose. > >They have it running on the Logic-list like this and I think its the best way. > >Ray > >----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de >http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 >ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >----------------------------------------------------------- > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- Aaron Johnston Yahoo, Inc. the science makes you weak. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 12:11:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "seb:h" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:57:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "seb:h" greetings. Outlook or Outlook Express users just have to check "plain text" in the Tools->Options->Send Dialog. I recommend doing so... Seb -----Original Message----- From: Martin Zuther To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Montag, 14. Dezember 1998 17:35 Subject: Re: unsubscribe >* From Martin Zuther > >>Outlook users have a 'nice layout', and you have a binairy on your >>harddisk, but when you use Outlook too, that won't be a problem anymore. >>Another ugly MS-strategy. > >Thanks Dimitri. > >I had almost guessed that this would be another MSoft thing. I blamed the >Internet Exploder, though. >Any ideas how to get rid of these files? (No, deleting them manually as >they appear is not what I want ;) > >Martin >mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 00:18:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Dump 2.01 with Cakewalk Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:23:49 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Since this question is asked repeatedly, I would like to suggest that the solution(s) be added to the FAQ. I realize it's updated on a volutary basis, but considering that it mentions 1.53 as the current version, maybe it's time to freshen it up. To Groove. Solution 1) Connect the VIRUS only to MIDI port 1 if you have a multi port bay Solution 2) If using Windows, use ActiveMovie, Use MultiMedia Control Panel to set the Default MIDI port to the one connected to the VIRUS. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Groove303@t-online.de [mailto:Groove303@t-online.de] Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 2:04 PM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Dump 2.01 with Cakewalk >> >> >>* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) >> >>Hi Listers !! >> >>Is anybody outthere who has tried to dump the 2.01 OS with Cakewalk? I tried, but no success.Cakewalk interrupts the transmission at block 2 >>data 127. >>With Logic it works.Why is Cakewalk now unable to dump? >> >>Stay Fresh , Stay Cool >> >> >>Jens Wegerhoff >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 02:26:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:56:52 EST To: access-list@teklab.com, CKe9644719@aol.com Subject: Re: Knob Display- more bugs? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/13/98 5:00:21 PM, CKe9644719@aol.com writes: <<> quite a bit of useless "dead zone" on each knob. >>This cannot be changed unfortuately. This dead zone is produced by the poti resistor. This is a problem of other synths, too. (With Mike Meyers "Sprockets" accent): WHAT A PITY! Well, if that is the norm, I guess we'll have to live with it....... >the Knobdispl being constantly on, no matter how I set it in the menu......I am using vers. 2.00....... >If the knob display is constantly on, just try to reset your Virus. Anyway, if you think your Virus does not work as expected, even you work on the latest OS version, try a reset. I have since upgraded to ver 2.01, and it is still doing this. Not a fatal flaw by any means, but still annoying. I have tried a reset, but I'll give it another try. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 12:05:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:01:19 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: compiled acces list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, And guess who taught me this tip ? Indeed, Raymund Beyer ! :-))) I must say that since I receive single mails instead of the digests, I can read my mails in half the time I read them before ! (this sounds like a cheap TV commercial ;-). Ciao, Joeri Raymund Beyer wrote: >Well - I think its not so nice having a digest version, because you cant look though a thread so easyly. As Joeri has stated before it is much better to create a filter for your mailing program. -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 12:27:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:25:52 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: how to filter messages in Eudora WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! Since there's a discussion going on about lot of messages of the list which have a lower priority than the personal messages I send an instruction on how to filter messages, so the messages of the access-list go to a separate mailbox. It's an instruction for useres of Eudora, at least version 3.01 lite. ----quote------ I took eudora 3.0 lite 4win95, and gave the filter the instruction to move all incoming messages to the access mbox, which contain access-list@teklab.com in the reply to-header. The instructions might work for other versions too. This is different than the from header! The from header is by whom the message is sent, though the reply header contains access-list@teklab.com . Take care that you MATCH this on INCOMING and MANUAL (Alt-J sorts messages in inbox to access-mbox) as in the following instructions: -first create your new access mailbox. I call it 'access-list' -menu TOOLS , FILTERS -NEW -Match INCOMING, MANUAL -header: Reply-to -contains 'access-list@teklab.com' -ignore -(no further changes) -Action: Transfer to - 'access-list' -close the window, and it will ask to save it, say YES of course. -Try ALT-J -Your INbox is free from access messages now, and th next messages will be sent to 'access-list' Good luck! (disclaimer, so U won't sue me when you computer explodes: I am not responsible for anything. It's your own risc ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 16:24:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:02:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Dump 2.01 with Cakewalk X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Blackstone Hamilton schrieb: Since this question is asked repeatedly, I would like to suggest that the solution(s) be added to the FAQ. I realize it's updated on a volutary basis, but considering that it mentions 1.53 as the current version, maybe it's time to freshen it up. To Groove. Solution 1) Connect the VIRUS only to MIDI port 1 if you have a multi port bay Solution 2) If using Windows, use ActiveMovie, Use MultiMedia Control Panel to set the Default MIDI port to the one connected to the VIRUS. Hi B.L. ! I know both Solutions very well.But it`s strange that my Cakewalk doesn´t dump the OS anymore.Till 2.00 I never had problems. OK.It´s no tragedy.I use Logic for Updates now. Thanks and best wishes Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 17:26:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: RE: still having problems with PC & Cubase Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:23:24 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >In a message dated 12/10/98 1:55:46 AM, eddy@anig-browl.org writes: > >>Sigh. It's true tha Mac owners tend to have more problems, Groan. Substitute 'less' for 'more', as anyone could have guessed if they had read the whole message instead of just the first line. Thanks to the people who took the trouble to write polite emails, and a big friendly 'fuck you' to the abusive ones I received (not many, I'm happy to say). Christoph, perhaps you could include a grammar/content checker in a future Virus OS to spare the embarrassment of over-rapid mail composition? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 17:28:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: OS Request Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:23:25 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness -----Original Message----- From: owner-access-list@teklab.com [mailto:owner-access-list@teklab.com]On Behalf Of Blackstone Hamilton Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 8:18 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OS Request Leider ist dieses Thema tot. I am ignorant. What does this mean? sorry about the delay in answering, I was busy throwing my first Goa Trance party (which went very well). Regards, Eddy X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 17:25:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: ASS, AVK Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:23:27 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >Nice thought, but if someone would suggest us to come out with an Access Helicopter, we might not have reacted either :) Sound FX: thwuppa-thwuppa-thwuppa-thwuppa Pilot: Wow, this thing is really easy to fly...everything I do seems to result in a cool aerobatic manoeuver...the controls are so responsive and I feel like I can do anything with this helicopter...I'm glad I sold my Sikorsky to buy this. I wonder what this knob does? [Twist] Pilot: Cool...it's a submarine too... [Splash] Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 17:25:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:23:30 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >Outlook users have a 'nice layout', and you have a binairy on your harddisk, but when you use Outlook too, that won't be a problem anymore. Another ugly MS-strategy. Bastards. I work with Outlook for my job and it has wasted so much time for me this year, I hate it. I think it's time to go to Unix, does anyone think that Jazz sequencer is any good? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 17:25:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Who made the factory patches? Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:23:32 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >different people from around the world. Several I know were made by Paul Nagle (also on this list) others were made by different German techno people. And one of them is actually called Utz (first name...;) Who made 'Wino Bench"? It is the funniest patch I ever heard on anything! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 17:58:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OS Request Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:03:49 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness It's my shitty German which translated means, "Unfortunately, this topic is dead." -----Original Message----- From: Anig Browl [mailto:eddy@anig-browl.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 8:23 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OS Request -----Original Message----- From: owner-access-list@teklab.com [mailto:owner-access-list@teklab.com]On Behalf Of Blackstone Hamilton Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 8:18 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OS Request Leider ist dieses Thema tot. I am ignorant. What does this mean? sorry about the delay in answering, I was busy throwing my first Goa Trance party (which went very well). Regards, Eddy X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 21:21:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: It's a question of knobs.. Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:20:32 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau it's a question of knobs, it's a question of ... yea, OK, so I saw Depeche Mode play recently. I have a question, but a qualifier first. I've never used a Virus, and my information is based on a magazine review and what's said on this list... in other words, pieced together. So my understanding is that the knobs on a Virus can work in three modes, one of which is relative. I think that's the right word, but basically the idea is that no matter where the knob is positioned at, changes will be made by the number of degrees off that point. In other words, if a knob is at 12:00, and I turn it to 2:00, there will be a ~ +17% change in value, whatever that value is. It seems to me that this situation is problematic if the pots have a dead zone. For example, if the value of a knob is 0, but the knob is pointed to 3:00 (the max, as I understand it), turning to increase the value would put the knob in the dead zone, which would not register... seems icky. Any comments? Is this what happens? --PBr ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 01:08:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:06:00 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: How to filter this mailinglist in Netscape now ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker It was no problem for me in the past, but now it is . Please help me and my incoming-directory. Thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 04:43:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:42:31 -0500 From: Chee Keong Loh X-Sender: lohc@skule.ecf To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Copying single effects into the multis. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chee Keong Loh Hi, Was wondering how to copy the effects from the single sound into the single part of a multi. and also, is it possible to have more than one effects setting for a multi (ie: every single having its own effects setting) Thanx in advance. chee ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 09:52:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:52:07 -0700 To: access list From: Doug Masla Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla access-list@teklab.com UNSUBSCRIBE SYNTHWERKS@EARTHLINK.NET ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ NORTH AMERICAN PRODUCT SUPPORT FOR WALDORF AND ACCESS PRODUCTS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 09:23:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:22:24 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: jazz under linux WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! You (Anig Browl )asked if jazz works fine with linux. I tested jazz under win95, because i have some hardware problems on my linux box. Well, it's so simple that it has a very strong timing under win95, so under linux it must run fine too I guess! No experiences though, but I think you should try it out. If you want a linux and have a simple win95 you can try redhat. for some help you can mail me privately. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 10:53:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:47:55 +0100 From: RA Klein Organization: Kanzlei To: access-list@teklab.com CC: eddy@anig-browl.org Subject: Re: Who made the factory patches? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From RA Klein Hi, many of the sounds in the factory-set are from a dutch guy called Rob Papen. You will find many of his sounds in the factory-set of the Virus. These sounds have in their name-end always RP. (like IQ-PAD RP). You can find Rob Papen with his homepage under: http://alpha.nedernet.nl/~robpapen/access2.html Thomas Klein L 8, 11 68161 Mannheim/Germany http://www.businessnetz.de/rechtsanwalt/ Rechtsanwalt@Bonline.net Anig Browl schrieb: >* From "Anig Browl" > >>different people from around the world. Several I know were made by Paul Nagle (also on this list) others were made by different German techno people. And one of them is actually called Utz (first name...;) > >Who made 'Wino Bench"? It is the funniest patch I ever heard on anything! > >Anig Browl >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 10:00:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:59:18 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:How to filter this mailinglist in Netscape now ! WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! I'll describe it for netscape too, although I can't test it from here (firewall). -With netscape communicator 4.5, open netscape messenger. -Open menu: EDIT/MESSAGE FILTERS -Click on NEW -Filter name: access-list-filter -fill in: 'the TO of the message contains access-list@teklab.com' -after 'then' there should be the option MOVE TO FOLDER -press new folder and add 'access-list' -after the move to folder option, select 'access-list' -After description yo may type what ever you want. Now it should work now. I hope this helps you? Dimitri. Unkas Gemmeker schreef: >* From Unkas Gemmeker > It was no problem for me in the past, but now it is . Please help me and my >incoming-directory. >Thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 11:34:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Who made the factory patches? Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:33:37 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:23:32 -0800, you wrote: >Who made 'Wino Bench"? It is the funniest patch I ever heard on anything! I seem to remember that as one of mine... ;-) Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 13:13:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:08:24 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: End of year thoughts . . . Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Hi, Listen, list! The festive time of year is fast approaching and there are a few things I'd like to say. First, thanks to Christoph, Joerg, Guido and all who made the Virus possible. Thanks for putting up with us and our sometimes crazy and impossible suggestions and for being so cool. Second, I think it's really great to be involved in the evolution of this great synth, seeing it grow, seeing wishes become reality. It's destined to become a classic. Never sell your Virus. Keep it clean and dust-free and don't leave it alone for too long. Third, I like this little global community we are building up due to our common interest. It is no longer frowned upon to say "I have a Virus"! We are the infected, we are the diseased! See you in Amsterdam! (But preferably not before April - - too cold, too cold) Fourth, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone on the list! Have a good one. LoLife P.S. Don't forget to book your helicopter lessons. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 15 13:50:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: johnston@yahoo-inc.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:46:55 +0000 Subject: Re: compiled acces list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >I ran a mailing list for a few months that went down because too many people used it to "chat." Also, everyone seemed to feel a need to follow up every post >that they liked with a superfluous, "Yes! Great idea!" message that said nothing else and offered nothing to the rest of the mailing list. > >I think that if a post doesn't include some sort of information that other subscribers can actually use or benefit from, I think it would be better to send the message privately to the personal address of the subscriber (if that >subscriber divulges their address that is). > Yes! Great idea! :) (sorry, couldn't resist) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 16:05:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:00:26 +0100 From: Roman Vargas Organization: COMPAREX To: Virus Subject: Random sound creation. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Roman Vargas Would it be usefull to have a feature that automatically creates Random sound?. Sometimes this is usefull to start new sounds. Roman. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 16 18:58:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Wed, 16 Dec 98 18:58:00 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz * From nico nerz access-list@teklab.com UNSUBSCRIBE nolowcut@gmx.de --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "MAY THE SOUND BE WITH YOU" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 17 07:55:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Random sound creation. Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:55:18 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Roman asked... >Would it be usefull to have a feature that automatically creates Random sound?. This is a neat idea, although I often turn the volume down and change things at random for 1 minute to get a similar effect. Another good way is to set a very slow tempo and use sample-and-hold with key trigger on the LFOs. The slow tempo makes it easy to stop when you hear something interesting and look at the settings. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 17 10:40:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:38:10 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: QY-10 & Virus? WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! Since I want to stop sequencing with my PC and I want to have a hardware sequencer, my eye fell on a almost-not-used QY-10 . Is there someone who uses it with a virus? Can you tell me about your experiences with it? Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 17 14:57:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:00:23 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: RE: Random sound creation. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >Roman asked... > >>Would it be usefull to have a feature that automatically creates Random sound?. the random sound generation feature is one of the things i love about the quasimidi sirius. its fun. (i dont think the settings are really configured totally at random though. the sounds resulting from pressing the random sound button usually sound much too good. there must be some more elaborate rules or algorithms behind the way the sirius generates "random sounds") michael ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 18:03:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Random sound creation. Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:27:13 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Another good way is to set a >very slow tempo and use sample-and-hold with key trigger on the LFOs. The slow tempo makes it easy to stop when you hear something interesting and look at the settings. > >Anig Browl Huh?? Which particular settings would that be? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 17 16:11:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:14:04 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: Random sound creation. To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt I agree with you, that should be an interesting feature. ---Roman Vargas wrote: > >* From Roman Vargas > >Would it be usefull to have a feature that automatically creates Random >sound?. > >Sometimes this is usefull to start new sounds. > > >Roman. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 17 16:27:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [194.205.108.13] From: "Pierre Zeeman" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:26:20 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Pierre Zeeman" unsubscribe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 17 18:30:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: I did notice Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:29:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi All, I did notice that creating a MiniMoog like sound can be done best in the Virus with more volume of the oscillators and no Saturation. I believe Christof did write about the volume of the oscillators that they also can saturate. This sound O-ME-2 is cool and I will save it for some new factory-set sounds. Amazing machine this Virus. How the h.. did they do it ..sounding so warm Regards, Rob ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl >NEW: www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm< Address: ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 Account number: Rabobank Pey-Posterholt 14.20.11.649 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ What is out our coming out: -Signature Sound-Set for Access Virus (out !!) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for EMU EOS samplers Out very soon. -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for AKAI samplers -The new TerraTec 4MB set programmed by Rob Papen is on the EWS-64l/xl CD 09/98 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 17 20:50:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: I did notice Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:51:10 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay Christof wrote: >No, they do not saturate. The headroom in the Oscillator Mixer is high, so there is no chance to saturate here. It would have been a digital clipping anyway. >But of course the OSC VOL knob additionally controls the saturation gain, but >only if the Saturation is active. But you did not answer the other question Rob asked: How the H--- DID you make it sound so good? Man do I love my Virus. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 09:31:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:29:55 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: self-oscillate? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Is it possible to let the Virus self-oscillate ? If yes, then how is it done ? greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 12:30:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:26:13 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: new additions to the site Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Dear list, I just posted two little things to the Virus site: an Excel spreadsheet that lets you keep record of your soundnames and (I believe) write down comments for them made by Oliver Graubohm and a 5 minute MP3 Audio demo of the Virus that I did that shows off the vocoder, some drum sounds and the incessant 303, all made by the Virus. it's a massive 4.8 MB but it's hifi audio to show what the Virus can sound like. enjoy... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 16:21:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:22:52 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: new additions to the site To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt Oops, there's a problem when I downloaded the MP3 demo When I try to play it with Winamp the demo won't play the way it should, it's filled with clicks and plops.. Don't know what went wrong, any ideas? and a 5 >minute MP3 Audio demo of the Virus that I did that shows off the vocoder, >some drum sounds and the incessant 303, all made by the Virus. it's a massive 4.8 MB but it's hifi audio to show what the Virus can sound like. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 16:34:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:32:28 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: New Virus owner Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com Hello all, My Virus arrived yesterday and I am loving, loving, loving it! (Santa came early :-) I want to mention that Rob Papen (and others) did a great job on the factory patches. They really showcase this synth well. And, who did the demo song? I love it. My Virus arrived with OS 1.58 and I was wondering if there was anything other than a Vocoder added to the Virus in OS 2.xx (not to imply "only" a Vocoder, as if that weren't enough). And, if I upgrade to 2.xx and run into any sort of problems, where can I find 1.58 in case I want to "downgrade" back to 1.58? I haven't gotten too far into the manual yet, I've just been playing with it (so forgive me if the answer to this is in there), but is Multi-mode a separate group of patch memory slots where, if I tweak a Single in Multi and store it as a Multi, does it also rewrite the original Single that was tweaked/edited or does it work like the Nord Lead in Performance mode where the originals are unaffected by tweaking in this mode? This is a great synth! Thanks ahead of time for answers to these.......Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 16:37:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:37:42 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: new additions to the site To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont >minute MP3 Audio demo of the Virus that I did that shows off the vocoder, >some drum sounds and the incessant 303, all made by the Virus. it's a massive 4.8 MB but it's hifi audio to show what the Virus can sound like. are *ALL* the sounds in the demo from the virus? or were other instruments used as well? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 17:44:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: New Virus owner Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:44:23 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay Zon Wrote: >Hello all, >My Virus arrived yesterday and I am loving, loving, loving it! (Santa came early :-) You'll find that that love does not fade fast. >I want to mention that Rob Papen (and others) did a great job on the factory >patches. They really showcase this synth well. And, who did the demo song? I >l>ove it. > Rob has a bank of patches for sale on his website. I hear they're very good. After Xmas, I'll be buying them for sure. >My Virus arrived with OS 1.58 and I was wondering if there was anything other >than a Vocoder added to the Virus in OS 2.xx (not to imply "only" a Vocoder, >as if that weren't enough). >And, if I upgrade to 2.xx and run into any sort of problems, where can I find >1.58 in case I want to "downgrade" back to 1.58? Canine's site. The URL at the bottom of this message (where the FAQ is). There are patches, mixermaps for Logic, Cubase, and Cakewalk, as well as some other utilities. And he used to have all versions of the software posted, but maybe he reduced it to only the "stable" releases: 1.58 and 2.01? Am I wrong? >I haven't gotten too far into the manual yet, I've just been playing with it >(so forgive me if the answer to this is in there), but is Multi-mode a separate group of patch memory slots where, if I tweak a Single in Multi and >store it as a Multi, does it also rewrite the original Single that was tweaked/edited or does it work like the Nord Lead in Performance mode where the originals are unaffected by tweaking in this mode? That's a cool feature of the Nord, but the Virus does map to discrete singles. >This is a great synth! No argument there! Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 18:13:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:12:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: mp3 problem (Re: new additions to the site) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I hate to say but.... I have the same problem, but only when I use netscape. When I stream it direclty under WINAMP (ctrl-L) there's no problem. Say Canine, do you use a ms-web server that automatically cripples mp3's when a netscape-server does an http-req for an mp3? At 07:22 18-12-98 -0800, you wrote: >* From Valentijn Steenhoudt Oops, >there's a problem when I downloaded the MP3 demo When I try to play it with Winamp the demo won't play the way it should, it's filled with clicks and plops.. > >Don't know what went wrong, any ideas? >>minute MP3 Audio demo of the Virus that I did that shows off the >vocoder, >>some drum sounds and the incessant 303, all made by the Virus. it's a massive 4.8 MB but it's hifi audio to show what the Virus can sound >like. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 23:18:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: self-oscillate? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:38:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Is it possible to let the Virus self-oscillate ? If yes, then how is it done ? You have to give the filter some kind of impulse. However, it won't sustain without any input (in the present OS) One good use of this is e.g. LFO1 in Env mode controlling filter gain, Filter LP/SER 4, Env amount 0, Noise at max volume, Osc vol 0 - very much like a piano attack. Happy Christmas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 20:28:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 19:05:45 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Mischke To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Peter Mischke ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 19:24:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: self-oscillate? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:19:49 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:47:19 +0000, S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: >resonance is turned up high but only if a sound is being sent into the filter to "kick it off". So you can't generate those pure sine waves using the filter only (e.g. a la synthi A) I can only think of one digital filter that will self-oscillate with no signal present. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 20:10:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:56:57 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: mp3 problem (Re: new additions to the site) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I hate to say but.... I have the same problem, but only when I use netscape. When I stream it direclty under WINAMP (ctrl-L) there's no problem. Say Canine, do you use a ms-web server that automatically cripples mp3's when a netscape-server does an http-req for an mp3? It's a known bug in Netscape. Upgrade your Netscape installation. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 20:52:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: self-oscillate? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:53:52 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay Paul Nagle wrote: >I can only think of one digital filter that will self-oscillate with no signal present. And that one is....? (Is it MW? I've never tried.) Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 22:21:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: self-oscillate? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:16:12 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" >I can only think of one digital filter that will self-oscillate with no signal present. Which is ........??? ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 02:07:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 02:04:20 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: mp3 problem (Re: new additions to the site) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi Jay, I have the same problem and I have the latest Netscape 4.5 ????? I'll try again with Internet Explorer tonight... damned, I'll have to use MS software. ;-) I also have a suggestion for Jay: maybe you could remove the reply-to address of the AN1x list, otherwise there'll be no-one left. :-))) What's going on over there ??? Ciao, Joeri >>I hate to say but.... I have the same problem, but only when I use netscape. When I stream it direclty under WINAMP (ctrl-L) there's no problem. Say Canine, do you use a ms-web server that automatically cripples mp3's when a netscape-server does an http-req for an mp3? > >It's a known bug in Netscape. Upgrade your Netscape installation. > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 02:06:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 02:04:31 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: OT: Fizmo Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, >>>I can only think of one digital filter that will self-oscillate with no signal present. >fizmo??? : ) hehehee My apologies for this OT stuff, but I really want to know: How does the Fizmo sound ? I've listened to the realaudio files on their site but you can't tell from those. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 05:45:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Random sound creation. Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:44:48 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >>very slow tempo and use sample-and-hold with key trigger on the LFOs. The slow tempo makes it easy to stop when you hear something interesting and look at the settings. >> >>Anig Browl > > >Huh?? Which particular settings would that be? Whatever you are modulating with the LFOs. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 10:43:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: self-oscillate? Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 10:42:40 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jim B-Reay Aan: 'access-list@teklab.com' Datum: vrijdag 18 december 1998 21:13 Onderwerp: RE: self-oscillate? |* From Jim B-Reay | |Paul Nagle wrote: |>I can only think of one digital filter that will self-oscillate with |>no signal present. | |And that one is....? |(Is it MW? I've never tried.) Yes the Microwave II and XT. The ZIP-Kick is made with the resonance of the filter. The old Micorwave behaves very strange with the self-oscillation of the filter. Mini-Moog is still one of the best in it (Kraftwerk shurly knows that). Rob Papen | |Jim |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 13:06:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:08:37 +0100 From: markuswz To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: SYNC AUDIO TO MIDI ? (please) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From markuswz GRAZIE For Cristmas present "Virus Voc" By using your illuminate tecnology you think is it possible to have a new version of software with sincronization of Audio-to-Midi ? Start and stop our seq.Lfo and arpeggiator sincronized to a real drummer, or to a screaming cd player? WOW what a wonder guess for the first of the year? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 14:34:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:04:39 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: self-oscillate? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 12/19/98 2:50:29 AM US Mountain Standard Time, robpapen@multiweb.nl writes: << |* From Jim B-Reay | |Paul Nagle wrote: |>I can only think of one digital filter that will self-oscillate with |>no signal present. | |And that one is....? |(Is it MW? I've never tried.) Yes the Microwave II and XT. >> The Nord Modular Classic Filter (Filter F) also self-oscillates (with no input signal required). So, that makes two digital filters that self-oscillate :-) Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 14:44:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Random sound creation. Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:35:12 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>Huh?? Which particular settings would that be? >Whatever you are modulating with the LFOs. Hmmm. Trouble is, there's no way of finding out the current offsets - the settings don't (and shouldn't) change. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 14:59:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: OT: Fizmo Date: Sam, 19 Dec 98 15:03:14 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile >My apologies for this OT stuff, but I really want to know: How does the Fizmo sound ? I've listened to the realaudio files on their site but you can't tell from those. i checked it for 30 minutes and i wasn't too impressed. sounds fairly cold. although factory presets programmed in a hurry (which is the fact most of the time) don't give you a objective picture of the synthesis' capacities. marc "..." (my girlfriend announced that she'll dump me if i don't drop my previous signature. available on request at stylepolice@usa.net babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Dec 18 17:48:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:47:19 +0000 Subject: Re: self-oscillate? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >Is it possible to let the Virus self-oscillate ? > >If yes, then how is it done ? > >greetings, >Steven It seems to me that the filter will self oscillate but not in the normal expected way. i.e. you can hear a tone being generated by the filter when the resonance is turned up high but only if a sound is being sent into the filter to "kick it off". So you can't generate those pure sine waves using the filter only (e.g. a la synthi A) Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: snape@pop.suba.com Sat Dec 19 18:47:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 11:45:36 -0600 From: snape Reply-To: snape@suba.com Organization: snape inc. To: canine@muenster.de Subject: problem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) i just puchased the virus from a store in minn mn usa i was playing the demo song and used the stop by hitting any key command and it has stopped stop working that is, it turns on and the buttons light up but the interface window is all green no display is showing up and the demo song will not play what is going on? is there a screen turn off or fade feature that the manuel doesn't explain? that i may have accidentally activated. derekX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 18:56:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.201] From: "Pierre Zeeman" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubcribe Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:53:48 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Pierre Zeeman" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 19:18:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:16:15 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: clicking (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! The famous 'klicking problem' reappears: Could it be that the vocoder and the filter section don't like to be turned on together? Because, when I use a patch with a filter and a vocoder patch simultanyously, that is, when one channel has a vocoder patch and one has a filter patch, the clicks appear. The clicks disappear with the channel containting the vocoder patch changed to an other one. So there are no clicking problems when I use only the vocoder or only filter patches. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 20:15:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:14:55 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking (again) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff)   Hello! The famous 'klicking problem' reappears: Could it be that the vocoder and the filter section don't like to be turned on together? Because, when I use a patch with a filter and a vocoder patch simultanyously, that is, when one channel has a vocoder patch and one has a filter patch, the clicks appear. The clicks disappear with the channel containting the vocoder patch changed to an other one. So there are no clicking problems when I use only the vocoder or only filter patches. Dimitri. Hi !!! Yes , the "klicking sound" is back.I have the problem too.I couldn´t find the reason till Dimi´s mail. Dimi is right with his comment about using a filterpatch and a vocoderpatch at the same time.Even when you don´t use the vocoderpatch on a part, the klicks appear. "Captain Picard, there is "klicking" on the holodeck !" " Oh my God . Hurry up ,change the part and select another patch!" Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 19 21:41:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:40:12 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: clicking (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I am in some way glad that you noticed this problem / solution too. It diminishes the chance that my virus is broke! Anyway, I have a tip: Before each MIDI file you start at the sequencer, do a programm change of all channels to p127 -start- and after then, do the programm changes for your composition. This way, all not used patches are reset to a filterless and vocoder less patch. It helps a little. Dimitri. At 20:14 19-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) >Hi !!! Yes , the "klicking sound" is back.I have the problem too.I couldn´t find the >reason till Dimi´s mail. >Dimi is right with his comment about using a filterpatch and a vocoderpatch at the same time.Even when you don´t use the vocoderpatch on a part, the klicks >appear. >"Captain Picard, there is "klicking" on the holodeck !" " Oh my God . Hurry up ,change the part and select another patch!" Jens Wegerhoff >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 06:14:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: bcfrye@mail.earthlink.net (Unverified) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:14:09 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: bob frye Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bob frye This is an interesting point... I've perhaps incorrectly assumed that the FM modulator was OSC1... If it is *not* OSC1, then it certainly should be! (assuming that this is possible of course!!) The spectral possiblities, modulated over time, would then be sensational!! Other wishes: (posted to the list before) - Edit/Compare mode - Sync to audio input... RedSound's new Federation processor looks to be an incredible real time audio processor that syncs to incoming audio as well as MIDI clock. WIth the inherent audio processing possible in the Virus, adding this feature would give us something similar, yet very different! Bob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 06:15:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:16:12 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: bob frye Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bob frye >Are there analogue (not virtual) synths that can do this? I'm quite certain that the Doepfer modulars do this... I know the old and wonderful line of Buchla modulars would allow this also (or at least my memory of time spent with them tells me this is so!) Bob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 00:55:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: FM concerns and potentials Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:54:50 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield Hello everyone and Happy Hollidays, I would like to mention a concern about the VIRUS FM. I dont think this was addressed in the previous FM discussions..... I hope I got this right: The "carrier" for the FM is on OSC 2, and it seems that the "modulator" for the FM is a fixed wave. Maybe this wave is a triangle or sine wave, but whatever it may be, it is fixed or non-modulatible......(hard wired??) On the Nord Lead, as my good friend pointed out to me, the modulator wave for the FM is the "other" OSCILLATOR!! for example on the Virus, the modulator could be OSC 1(but it does not appear to be) So on the Nord, i.e. someone can modulate the pulse width on the "modulator" and it will really *tweak-out* the FM on the carrier!!! **Could the VIRUS FM modulator become OSC 1? I think there would be amazing results due to the fact that OSC 1 can have so many possiblilties!!! (sweeping pulse width, sweeping from sine to saw to square, and of course selecting the many additional waves!!!) -So i am wondering if this could be a wishlist candidate!? Along with the other valid wishes of course!! THanks, David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 05:12:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 05:10:34 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri That sounds very interesting! An unusual way of using FM i'd say, but from unusual things come unusual sounds! I'm in! Are there analogue (not virtual) synths that can do this? Dimitri. Op Sat, 19 Dec 1998, David Battenfield schreef: >* From David Battenfield Could the VIRUS FM modulator become OSC 1? I think there would be amazing >results due to the fact that OSC 1 can have so many possiblilties!!! (sweeping pulse width, sweeping from sine to saw to square, and of course selecting the many additional waves!!!) >-So i am wondering if this could be a wishlist candidate!? Along with the other valid wishes of course!! > >THanks, >David > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 14:10:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:08:05 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: clicking (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" To me it seems that if the Virus runs out of voices, clicking starts to happen. I had this, when I left the vocoder active for a part and used about 7 extra voices. I haven't really confirmed this, but this could be a lead. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 15:21:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 15:21:06 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" <> >On the Nord Lead, as my good friend pointed out to me, the modulator wave for the FM is the "other" OSCILLATOR!! for example on the Virus, the modulator could be OSC 1(but it does not appear to be) So on the Nord, i.e. someone can modulate the pulse width on the "modulator" and it will really *tweak-out* the FM on the carrier!!! <> >That sounds very interesting! An unusual way of using FM i'd say, but from unusual things come unusual sounds! I'm in! Are there analogue (not virtual) synths that can do this? <> >This is an interesting point... I've perhaps incorrectly assumed that the FM modulator was OSC1... If it is *not* OSC1, then it certainly should be! (assuming that this is possible of course!!) The spectral possiblities, modulated over time, would then be sensational!! Come on, guys! The FM modulator in the Virus is Osc 1. Simple LFO->Osc1 proves this in a second - but it is a fixed waveform, so changing the waveform of Osc1 won't affect Osc2. Whether this is desirable or not is another matter - I personally don't think PW or complex waveforms in an FM modulator is particularly useful (or sensational) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 17:15:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:13:34 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking (again) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >To me it seems that if the Virus runs out of voices, clicking starts to happen. I had this, when I left the vocoder active for a part and used about 7 extra voices. I haven't really confirmed this, but this could be a lead. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hi Canine ! Yes. This is another point of view.I checked your idea, and it seems that you are right. I am not sure yet.Firstly I thought your comment is wrong in my case,but I forgot to check Twinmode in each selected part.I set the Twinmode off for all activated parts.....Clicking disappeared. Thanks. But it is a little bug anyway,or? Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 17:15:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:13:45 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: clicking (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Yes, that's a lead indeed: I have a test-tune for clickings sounds, which uses a patch for a basedrum wih filter (no clipping though) and a chord-line with an edited A19 Compress K, which uses twin mode. In total there are 7 voices used. When I play this in combination with an inactive vocoder patch (which I switch on after the song started) , the clicking starts. The clicking gets pretty serious (ugly) when I restart the song, which sends progr. changes for the two audible instruments. Even when I use 2xtwin on and 1x twin off = 5 voices. Whith 3 voices it's not audible. When I do this without the unused vocoder patch, the clicking is very little but it's there, with less voices there's no problem. rell At 14:08 20-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >To me it seems that if the Virus runs out of voices, clicking starts to happen. I had this, when I left the vocoder active for a part and used about 7 extra voices. I haven't really confirmed this, but this could be a lead. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 17:43:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:24:11 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: clicking (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:13 PM +0100 on 20.12.1998 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >When I do this without the unused vocoder patch, the clicking is very little but it's there, >with less voices there's no problem. Keep in mind that the vocoder uses about 3-4 voices when it is switched on and set to 32 bands. thus, add 4 voices to the total count. This is why I believe it is not the vocode4r but the virus running out of voices and getting a bit confused along the way (thus: clicking...) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 17:43:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:28:49 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: New Virus owner Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:44 PM +0100 on 18.12.1998 Jim B-Reay wrote: >Canine's site. The URL at the bottom of this message (where the FAQ is). There are patches, mixermaps for Logic, Cubase, and Cakewalk, as well as some other utilities. And he used to have all versions of the software posted, but maybe he reduced it to only the "stable" releases: 1.58 and 2.01? Am I wrong? Actually Access asked me to take down all older versions because after all they do pose a little risk: everytime someone toasts an OS into the Virus, a powerfailure could make this into a warranty repair... they asked me to help reduce that risk by encouraging people to up- and downgrade only when necessary. Support is also expensive and this helps reduce the support required. I understand their concern and now all I have is the most current version of the OS. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 17:43:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:33:15 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: self-oscillate? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:42 AM +0100 on 19.12.1998 Rob Papen wrote: >Yes the Microwave II and XT. The ZIP-Kick is made with the resonance of the filter. >The old Micorwave behaves very strange with the self-oscillation of the filter. I think Wolfram Franke mentioned on the Waldorf list that the An1x (Yamaha's virtual analog synth) also has a digital filter that self-oscillates. For the Virus you can try this: - set input mode to "static" (without any input signal present) - turn noise to about 20 - turn Resonance up high high high - adjust cutoff as needed - enjoy think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 18:12:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:11:05 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: clicking (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Ahaa! 4 voices!? I didn't know that! This partly sovles the clicking mystery. Though I think that the virus shouldn't get confused by to little voices, and that it should just 'forget' to play some notes. Or a warning signal that too much voices are used. But in my case: 1 unused vocoder = 4, 3 twin=6 and 1 no twin basedrum = 1, that makes 11 voices, and the virus has 12. So there's still another problem. Dimitri. > >Keep in mind that the vocoder uses about 3-4 voices when it is switched on and set to 32 bands. thus, add 4 voices to the total count. This is why I believe it is not the vocode4r but the virus running out of voices and getting a bit confused along the way (thus: clicking...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 03:07:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:07:42 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: bob frye Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bob frye >>I personally don't think PW or complex waveforms in an FM modulator is particularly useful (or sensational) << Not intending this as a flame at all, but "c'mon!" .... In FM synthesis, no matter where you are doing it, as you increase either the modulation index, or the frequency content of the modulator (preferably in a dynamic fashion) this is where all the fun happens. I'm guessing by your comment that your time with frequency modulation synthesis techniques is, er... somewhat limited...? again, not a flame or a personal slam... there's so many ways of making good sounds that I don't suppose any one person can be completely versed in all of them. So, since you've cleared up the fact that the modulator on the Virus for FM is OSC1, we're saying that the waveform is fixed... so none of the modulator routings for OSC1 will have any bearing on the FM output? Bob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 03:12:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:09:01 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Jay Vaughan wrote: >>This bug will be fixed in the next OS. Thanks for your help >>Christoph Kemper >>access music > >Awesome! Yet another example of why you guys seriously kick ass! How's that? For fixing a bug which they introduced in the first place? - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 21:58:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:57:16 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield >Come on, guys! The FM modulator in the Virus is Osc 1. Simple LFO->Osc1 proves this in a second - but it is a fixed waveform, so changing the waveform of Osc1 won't affect Osc2. Whether this is desirable or not is another matter - I personally don't think PW or complex waveforms in an FM modulator is particularly useful (or sensational) *****Then you may want to listen to a Nord Lead : ) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 22:58:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:51:22 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: RE: New Virus owner Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Actually Access asked me to take down all older versions because after all they do pose a little risk: everytime someone toasts an OS into the Virus, a powerfailure could make this into a warranty repair... they asked me to help reduce that risk by encouraging people to up- and downgrade only when necessary. Interesting point -- what does it take to fix this, Access? I mean, what do you guys have to do when you get a Virus that wasn't fully upgraded before a power failure? Is it something that the electronic engineers among us might be able to brave ourselves, without having to send in the Virus for factory repairs? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 22:58:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:53:09 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: clicking Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >This bug will be fixed in the next OS. >Thanks for your help >Christoph Kemper >access music Awesome! Yet another example of why you guys seriously kick ass! Thanks Christoph! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 20 22:52:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Date: Sun, 20 Dec 98 22:51:59 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz David Battenfield wrote : >*****Then you may want to listen to a Nord Lead : ) 100% agreed ..... :-) for those who want to know how diferent fm can sound ,listen to the matrix 12 also ... (or "jam and spoon`s STELLA).... (dont want to start a synth-war !) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "MAY THE SOUND BE WITH YOU" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 00:57:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:55:02 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >for those who want to know how diferent fm can sound ,listen to the matrix 12 also ... (or "jam and spoon`s STELLA).... > I just listened to Jam&Spoon's Stella and to me it sounds like filter FM. I do not remember the features of the Matrix-12 exactly, but I think Filter Modulation is the only FM you can do with it. So this sound isn't possible with the VIRUS anyway. Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 02:06:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Date: Mon, 21 Dec 98 02:10:11 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile >>Come on, guys! The FM modulator in the Virus is Osc 1. Simple LFO->Osc1 proves this in a second - but it is a fixed waveform, so changing the waveform of Osc1 won't affect Osc2. Whether this is desirable or not is another matter - I personally don't think PW or complex waveforms in an FM modulator is particularly useful (or sensational) > >*****Then you may want to listen to a Nord Lead : ) although the nordlead's FM parameter changes the sound in a very special way. at least to me it's one of the really great parameters in the nordlead. i'm not sure if this effect can be easily covered by a traditional FM modulation. cheers, marc "..." (my girlfriend announced that she'll dump me if i don't drop my previous signature. available on request at stylepolice@usa.net babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 02:06:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: RE: New Virus owner Date: Mon, 21 Dec 98 02:10:13 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile >Interesting point -- what does it take to fix this, Access? I mean, what do you guys have to do when you get a Virus that wasn't fully upgraded before a power failure? > >Is it something that the electronic engineers among us might be able to brave ourselves, without having to send in the Virus for factory repairs? i'm no memnber of access but i might help you in a way. if the virus write to it's eeprom (or whatever is used) and the power goes down, the eeprom has to be exchanged. this has nothing to do with the OS itself. less writing processes, due to test burning the OS on and on cause less warranty cases. by the way, this is true for rewritable roms in cd-burners, pc bios or apple's imac, too. regards, marc "..." (my girlfriend announced that she'll dump me if i don't drop my previous signature. available on request at stylepolice@usa.net babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 04:10:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:08:54 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/21/98 2:16:56 AM, rpieket@best.com writes: <<> Awesome! Yet another example of why you guys seriously kick ass! How's that? For fixing a bug which they introduced in the first place?>> What, you would rather wait two years or more for an upgrade, a la Kurzweil? Or perhaps you prefer they put out a new synth every six months to replace the one you just bought, like Roland? Or have to send your unit to the repair shop for the upgrade? How much do these upgrades cost, in the meantime? The Virus is a rare synth, with an even rarer level of support....we are in direct contact with the people designing and programming this synth, and even have some input! Try finding this level of interaction with any other synth company.....personally, I'll take the occasional bug, because the vocoder and other upgrades are worth it. And for FREE, no less.......! Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 09:28:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:28:57 +0100 From: canine To: access-list X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00001976 Subject: RE: clicking Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From canine >===== Original Message From Ronald Pieket ===== * From Ronald Pieket > >Jay Vaughan wrote: > >>>This bug will be fixed in the next OS. Thanks for your help >>>Christoph Kemper >>>access music >> >>Awesome! Yet another example of why you guys seriously kick ass! > >How's that? For fixing a bug which they introduced in the first place? Hm, why don't you try building a virtual analog synth like the Virus? Let's see if you can do it without any bugs... Let's all keep in mind that with modern computer software it's impossible to program something as complex as a working application for anything without introducing errors in your programs. It's perfectly acceptable to make mistakes. It is unusual though to immediately admit those mistakes and fix them. As taking a look around other manufacturers of synths, samplers and related gear will show. just my opinion... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 10:42:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:11:31 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: clicking Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen >The Virus is a rare synth, with an even rarer level of support....we are in direct contact with the people designing and programming this synth, and even have some input! Try finding this level of interaction with any other synth company.....personally, I'll take the occasional bug, because the vocoder and other upgrades are worth it. And for FREE, no less.......! > > >Marshall I think you are absolutely right. Just few days ago I managed to load OS 2.01 and at the moment I'm exited to check out all the new features. Still, I hope my previous problems were all connected to the old OS. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 10:38:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:35:39 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Oh my goodness... That makes 6 guiness at the EVP meeting in Amsterdam! You are really great! I guess I'm gonna have to arrange a tap of Guiness by then... Dimitri. Op Sun, 20 Dec 1998 CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com >Ok, guys, I found the bug! > >The Virus does not reset one special system variable for the vocoder, after powering up. >The result is that the vocoder engine is not announced in the system, even though it is switched on. >The results are obvious power overflows. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 15:48:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: FM concerns and potentials Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:45:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>I personally don't think PW or complex waveforms in an FM modulator is particularly useful (or sensational) << >Not intending this as a flame at all, but "c'mon!" .... In FM synthesis, no matter where you are doing it, as you increase either the modulation index, or the frequency content of the modulator (preferably in a dynamic fashion) this is where all the fun happens. I definitely agree with you in the case of Yamaha-style FM, but not in (virtual) analog - the FM laws here are a bit different here, and so are the sounds. BTW: I wouldn't say no to an FS1R (to replace my beloved DX7II on stage) >I'm guessing by your comment that your time with frequency modulation synthesis techniques is, er... somewhat limited...? again, not a flame or a personal slam...there's so many ways of making good sounds that I don't suppose any one person can be completely versed in all of them. The reason for the comment is actually the exact opposite of your (quite understandable) guess - I've been in this "game" so long (especially analog and FM) that I can afford to be a bit blasé about it! "Nix für ungut", as we say here in Virusland :-) >So, since you've cleared up the fact that the modulator on the Virus for FM is OSC1, we're saying that the waveform is fixed... so none of the modulator routings for OSC1 will have any bearing on the FM output? Again, the FM modulator waveform is fixed. Modulating the frequency of Osc1 in any way will (of course) affect the carrier. Why the question mark? - try it and see. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 17:49:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:48:17 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: self-oscillate? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes The JP8000 self-0scillates too, although, I do not believe there is a way to deactivate the oscillators. I think that was the orginal comment. (i.e. self-oscillates without a signal present.) Rick > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > > >I think Wolfram Franke mentioned on the Waldorf list that the An1x (Yamaha's virtual analog synth) also has a digital filter that self-oscillates. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 18:20:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [205.188.192.181] From: "Thorsten P–rschke" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:20:05 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thorsten P–rschke" unsubscribe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 21 20:08:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: I did notice Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:11:37 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rob Papen [mailto:robpapen@multiweb.nl] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 9:30 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: I did notice >> >> >>* From "Rob Papen" >> >>Hi All, >> >>I did notice that creating a MiniMoog like sound can be done best in the >>Virus with more volume of the oscillators and no Saturation. I believe Christof did write about the volume of the oscillators that they >>also can saturate. >> >>This sound O-ME-2 is cool and I will save it for some new factory-set sounds. >>Amazing machine this Virus. How the h.. did they do it ..sounding so warm >> >>Regards, >> >>Rob >> The Virus is truly amazing. My interest in synths was all started from the Gary Numan album, "The Pleasure Principle." Though I have owned a few vintage synths, one being the P5 (but none of the Jupiters), nothing I have played has struck me with the sound recorded back then, until the Virus came along. I decided to purchase the unit before even getting through the second bank of sounds at the music store. It finally was the box with that certain mysterious quality. A thought: Is it possible that Access programmed the OS so that each Virus would sound slightly different from every other Virus as with true analogs? Hmmm.... X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 22 01:16:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 00:56:55 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: I did notice Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:11 PM +0100 on 21.12.1998 Blackstone Hamilton wrote: > > >A thought: Is it possible that Access programmed the OS so that each Virus would sound slightly different from every other Virus as with true analogs? Hmmm.... How did you notice? I thought I heard something like this too! I thought it must have been the different rooms, or different speakers. But maybe you are right?!? And I guess it could be done with an algorithm that includes the serial number that's inside some piece of the hardware. Shouldn't be too difficult, technically.... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 22 09:38:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:37:00 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: I did notice Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Hello! Hey! That would be funny! And if it weren't true, we've found another wish for the wishlist. And i'd also like to add a detune of the oscillators when the power is just switched on, which doesn't go away in the first twenty minutes, just like my yamaha cs-60 does. And a warm up time of 10 seconds, in which the output gets louder and louder, beginning with twe low frequencies. And of course a system setting to turn this all off again! :-p Dimitri. Op Tue, 22 Dec 1998, K.9 Kai Niggemann schreef: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" how did you notice? I thought I heard something like this too! I thought it must have been the different rooms, or different speakers. But maybe you are right?!? >And I guess it could be done with an algorithm that includes the serial number that's inside some piece of the hardware. Shouldn't be too difficult, technically.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 22 17:13:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: s-cappiello@pop.ski.mskcc.org Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:15:21 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Steven Cappiello Subject: RE: I did notice Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steven Cappiello that's random. is there any official word on this ?? (I'm wondering now if I should go on a tour to find the Virus with the perfect sound... or perhaps just be happy with the Virus I've been blessed with) o \o/ o _| \ / |_ \o/ o o/ _ o /|\ | /\ _\o \o | o/ O/_ | \|\ / | /\ / \ / \ |\ ) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / \ / / / \ |\ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 22 19:15:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: I did notice Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:17:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Dimitri > >Hey! That would be funny! And if it weren't true, we've found another wish for the wishlist. And i'd also like to add a detune of the oscillators >when the power is just switched on, which doesn't go away in the first twenty >minutes, just like my yamaha cs-60 does. And a warm up time of 10 seconds, in >which the output gets louder and louder, beginning with twe low frequencies. >And of course a system setting to turn this all off again! :-p Hahaha! I also have this on my Polysix. When you turn the machine on, it is badly out of tune the first 15 seconds. When you strike a chord in those 15 seconds all the keys are out of tune (individually) and the pitch is too high. It slowly goes to the right keys. I like this...don't ask me why, but I always press a few keys when just powered on. I find this quite normal for a machine :-) Look at it this way: when I wake up every morning I can't get out of bed too! Later! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 22 21:40:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Michael Egar To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Cubase plugins etc. (NOT about updating OS) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:48:16 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Michael Egar Hiya, I've just bought Cubase 24VST and I was wonderring does anyone have or know of any handy plugins, mixermaps or anything, especially for the Virus. Anything at all....I'm not pushy. > Mike ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 23 06:21:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Random sound creation. Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:19:47 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >Hmmm. Trouble is, there's no way of finding out the current offsets - the settings don't (and shouldn't) change. Er, they do on mine with v2.0, I can see the values going back and forth. Try adjusting the filter cutoff then adjusting the lfo-cutoff modulation amount, this tends to show me the filter value varying in real time. If not, then one of us has a bug (although I don't find it an inconvenience). Or (much easier and far preferable) smoke pot, tweak at leisure, and record the tweaking into your sequencer or onto tape for later analysis or sampling, as you prefer. A friend put me onto leaving the recorder running while experimenting and I have found it a good way to make samples. I am running everything through a mixing desk, so the resulting tape may include sounds which only have the upward swing of a flanger (perhaps because I turned the aux send down before the downswing) or some other unusual variation. I know this is kind of off the topic but it is a fun way to work with synths. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 23 06:21:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: clicking Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:19:52 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Ronald asks.. >>Awesome! Yet another example of why you guys seriously kick ass! > >How's that? For fixing a bug which they introduced in the first place? You try getting a software company like Microsoft to even admit to the existence of a bug...I called up to report a bug once and they wanted $200 to let me speak to a technician, until I offered to just post the information across the Internet along with the story of the customer 'service'. Access didn't introduce this bug per se; they introduced a new feature which doesn't work perfectly in the first version. Not such a big deal if you ask me. Many synth manufacturers totally ignore their users, I would rather deal with the honest guys at Access who listen to our comments and explain how they will fix problems right here. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 23 16:58:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:57:13 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: merry xmas everyone Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi there list, I wish you a merry christmas and some very enjoyable days for you all! I hope that all your wishes will come true and that a virus may find its way underneath some christmas tree (good thing in Germany we don't do that stocking thing. A virus wouldn't fit in there, would it?) Makes me remember a sound I found on www.dailywav.com where someone says "We didn't have a chimney, so we just put our socks on the TV set". Now that would be as American as people from the old world could ever imagine...;) enjoy your free time (if you have any...) and in case you are from around here and get tired of christmas: check out the "Phase 7" concert in Duisburg at the FABRIK (Grabenstraße 20) on saturday, december 26th where my band Resonator will perform live (yes, this time I will bring and use my Virus...). btw, Duisburg is very close to Holland...;-) peace... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 24 13:08:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Random sound creation. Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 12:58:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>Hmmm. Trouble is, there's no way of finding out the current offsets - the settings don't (and shouldn't) change. >Er, they do on mine with v2.0, I can see the values going back and forth. Strange. What are your MIDI and SYSTEM settings? - I tried just about every combination, but couldn't see this effect. >Many synth manufacturers totally ignore their users, I would rather deal with the honest guys at Access who listen to our comments and explain how they will fix problems right here. >Anig Browl Right on A twiddling good Christmas to all Viroids! Howard Scarr ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 24 13:50:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Eric Kant" To: Subject: [Access Virus] midi-controler questions... Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 13:48:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eric Kant" Hi List, I'm new to this list and offcourse I have some questions... My setup is: 200Mhz pentium, Cubase Audio XT3.05, Akai S3000Xl with Mesa II, midi keybord (a very simple one) and a midi interface 2 in/4 out. Everything workes just fine. Last week I've got myself a Virus and I can tell you that it is a very fine peace of equipment. I've read the Faq's and manual. Only my English and German is not that good and I don't understand some things. I hope someone can give me an answer to my questions: 1. I don't understand how to get a sound of bank A on track1 and a sound from bank B on track 2. I work with midi controlers and not with sys-ex. The only thing I've done so far is one single sound on one track and thats all I can get. I am sure there has to be a way to get sounds from different banks where I want them. But how? Has it got to do with the midi-configuration of my Virus? Can someone sent me a midi file so I can see how it should be done with this controllers to control several banks? I'm sure it is written in the manual somewhere but I can find it. I'm affraid this question I asked hunderd times before. If it is, please mail me in private. Regards, Eric winne.toe@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 24 14:24:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:21:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: [Access Virus] midi-controler questions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! At 13:48 24-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Eric Kant" >Everything workes just fine. Last week I've got myself a Virus and I can tell you that it is a very fine peace of equipment. Yes, I can tell you too! :-) Sometimes some people on this list act quite euforic about the Virus. Where In holland did you buy yours? (I heb em in Amsterdam gekocht) >1. I don't understand how to get a sound of bank A on track1 and a sound from bank B on track 2. I work with midi controlers and not with sys-ex. The only thing I've done so far is one single sound on one track and thats all I can get. I am sure there has to be a way to get sounds from different banks where I want them. But how? Has it got to do with the midi-configuration of my Virus? Can someone sent me a midi file so I can see how it should be done with this controllers to control several banks? Choosing from bank a or b goes like this: -press ctrl -go to the first parameter: Part -This is the channel number, choose one where you want to have the patch (with Value) -Press Parameter > once. Now the cursor is on A or on B "SelectBank", the bank number. -Choose the bank with value + and - I don't know how this is done on your sequencer, I guess with cubase you can edit channel, bank and programm number on the left side of the screen. That's even more practical. By the way, if you want to dump the sounds of only the arrangement, play your song (if it's without programm changes during the song), and use the MIDI DUMP TX: -Press CTRL -Scroll with the parameter buttons to MIDI DUMP TX (tip: to go further, you can keep the > button pressed. But you can also keep > pressed and press < shortly several times. This jumps to groups of settings, and is much faster. -Select with value + and - or the knob "Arrangement" -Set your sequencer to record mode. -Press Store. -The recording contains sysex with the current active patches from part 1/16 Dimitri ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 24 20:07:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Eric Kant" To: Subject: Re: [Access Virus] midi-controler questions... Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:08:07 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eric Kant" Hoi Dimitri, Bedankt voor je email op de access lijst. Ik heb de mijne in Arnhem gekocht. Ik zag op Internet een aanbieding staan en aangezien ik hem daar voor de laagste prijs die ik tegenkwam kon kopen, heb ik dat maar gedaan. Ik zag ze trouwens bij winkels voor nog minder te koop staan (fl2800.-, maar die konden hem allemaal niet meer voor die prijs leveren...) Ik zat eerst nog aan een JP8080 te denken maar ik heb toch voor de Virus gekozen. Ik vind het een mooi apparaat maar het valt echt niet mee om dat ding onder de knie te krijgen. Met die sampler van mij ben ik ook zo'n tijd aan het kloten geweest eer ik er een geluid uit kreeg. Zoals jij het me uitlegde met dat je een part moet kiezen en een midikanaal moet toewijzen, dat lukt wel. Maar dat moet toch ook mogelijk zijn met cubase dmv controllers. Zodat je het maar 1 keer in cubase hoeft in te voeren en niet elke keer in de Virus. Op een of andere manier krijg ik af en toe het idee dat ik het snap maar dan hoor ik ineens weer twee geluiden door elkaar op een track. ??? Of een heel ander geluid / of geen geluid. Ik vrees dat ik nog lang moet pielen met dat ding voor we weer een hit kunnen scoren.... Afijn, we komen er wel. Groetjes, Eric. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 24 20:39:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Eric Kant" To: Subject: Re: [Access Virus] midi-controler questions... Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 20:38:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eric Kant" Oeps... sent that one to the wrong person(s). Sorry. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Dec 26 06:20:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:17:05 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: Access Virus mailing list Subject: New sounds on my home page. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket I have added some more Virus patches to my home page. The collection is admittedly small, but what it lacks in quantity, it hopefully makes up for in quality... :-) There are some experimental sounds again. This time, I tried "physical modeling", in the way my WSA1 does it. That is, I set up the chorus and delay (no modulation, very short delay times) to simulate acoustic resonance. The patch in question is "K:Geet-R" Another experimental sound is "D:OscHH". This is a hihat which does *not* use noise, but is made up out of detuned, high frequency oscillators, the way the revered 808 does it. Four oscillators (using twin mode) still sounds a bit thin. For the rest, some new pads, basses, drums. The new archive also contains the previous bunch of sounds. Some have been tweaked little. http://www.best.com/~rpieket/Synth.html Enjoy. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Dec 27 19:46:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:43:11 +0000 Subject: Dead Virus From: "Roger King" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Roger King" Hi all, My Virus just died. Plug in, power on, a quck falsh from the LCD backlight and then nothing. The power supply now appears to be providing 1.2V (weird!) and I don't have another 12V 1amp DC supply to check things out with. Anyone else with the same experience? Is the Virus itself likely to be affected or will a replacement PSU do the trick? Excuse me for not running out and buying a replacement supply before consulting y'all but it is Sunday evening and I have sessions booked for the coming week. Panic has set in. Regards, Roger __________ Roger King London UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 28 18:48:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Dead Virus Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:46:37 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >My Virus just died. Plug in, power on, a quck falsh from the LCD backlight and then nothing. The power supply now appears to be providing 1.2V (weird!) and I don't have another 12V 1amp DC supply to check things out >with. You can buy switchable power supplies at Radio Shack. It's at your own risk, but I have never had a problem using them with gear. Are there some funny capacitors in the Virus? The other day I switched mine on and it did the same thing - quick flash of the lights, then nothing. BUT I discovered that I didn't have the power plugged in. The virus was plugged into my mixer but I do not use phantom power. It was fine and normal when I reconnected the power supply. BTW it only did this once, I switched it on/off a few more times with the power disconnected but it stayed 100% asleep (not dead!). Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 28 19:15:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:15:32 +0000 Subject: Re: Dead Virus From: "Roger King" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Roger King" Hi Anig, >Are there some funny capacitors in the Virus? The other day I switched mine on and it did the same thing - quick flash of the lights, then nothing. BUT I discovered that I didn't have the power plugged in. Erm.. on reflection I wish I hadn't posted _quite_ so quickly. This is precisely what I did. Stupid, stupid, stupid... Regards, Roger __________ Roger King London UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 28 19:13:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: finally rackmount Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:16:17 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" Not much info this message, but I finally got my rackmount today!!! And it looks wonderful in my rack! It fits very nicely - no problems with the cables! Looks impressive too :-) Now I only need that Access Analog Sequencer below it hahaha. Later! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 28 22:20:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:20:14 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Things that shouldn't happen Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" It was saturday night and I was playing a gig. halfway through the show, about a minute before I was going to go into this very very big Virus-resonance-pad- thing, I suddenly hear a loud crackle. I turn around and look at the virus, everything flashes just one last time and goes black. I look underneath the table, thinking that I kicked the power supply out of the socket or some such mishap, but see the power supply and it is blowing smoke in all directions heavily. I was expecting to see flames any minute but that didn't happen. So here I was, about to play a solo and I had no instrument. Anja (my partner on stage) disconnected her midi footswitch and gave me her power supply, I connected that, half expecting that the Virus would be braindead anyways. but it actually came back on! So I smiled at the audience, took the old psu like a smoking dead rat that had just taken a laserblast and presented it to them and went on with the show like nothing happened.... The people thought we were very cool, actually I was thinking that this was probably the last minute of our show... My Virus was still acting weird after this, I guess it did get a little confused in the brain, so I had to reset it (if only I would have thought of that on stage, it left me twice after that in a weird crackling noise with an all yellow display) but it's fine again now... just a little story of my Nightmare After Christmas....;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 28 22:52:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Things that shouldn't happen Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:55:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >It was saturday night and I was playing a gig. halfway through the show, about a minute before I was going to go into this very very big Virus-resonance-pad- thing, I suddenly hear a loud crackle. (snip) Oh man...that has to be a nightmare for a synthesist!... I once performed somewhere and in the middle of a track there was suddenly no more sound!! I looked at all my instruments and they all seem to do fine. I looked at my on-stage mixer and it still got signal. Turned out that the amplifier at the back of the room had other plans that evening... Maybe it's not a bad idea to have a spare psu unit ready...can't think that I'm 'out of a Virus' at a festival in March... Maybe it was better to learn to play acoustic guitar or violin :-) No way! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 28 23:44:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: "(ListServ) Access Virus" Subject: Suggestion Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:42:01 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton The very last rev of the Matrix 6 uses a dot (period character) in the display to indicate which voices are being engaged. Other synths have a similar feature but which is not active all the time. Given the power of the synth can exceed the available voices, it would be helpful to have this capabililty. The first choice is full-time indication; the second choice would be a voice allocation "view." Perhaps the symbol indicating MIDI activity could be switched in the OS to display that or voice allocation. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Dec 28 23:49:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: "K2000 List" , "Cubase List" , "Blackplanet" , "Access Virus List" Subject: Computer stuff... Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:47:56 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" I am looking to upgrade my computer, and was wondering if any of you out there could help me with some places to buy from for good prices, what models are the best, etc... What I currently have is a pentium 200mmx with 96mb ram, with onboard ultra-wide scsi on the motherboard. The main use for this machine is digital audio recording, and the 200mmx isnt really cutting it so much any more.. I'm looking at getting a new motherboard of the 100mhz variety with onboard ultra-wide scsi again, and with AGP as well as the typical other stuff. I want to get a celeron processor and overclock it... ive heard the 300a's are the best, but that only particular ones will overclock now.. Does anyone know where I could get one of these that will work, or where they have gotten it from with good experience? I also want a new AGP graphics card, preferably something with 3dfx (ok, i admit it, i like to play some games on this thing too)... One that will work well for a standard windows 2d very fast as well as for 3d games is prefered. What models should I look at, and where can I get good prices? Also any places to get the new type of ram I will need at a good price I also need to know 100mhz SDRAM (?? I believe this is it, I know its not edo, but I get confused with all the new computer stuff that keeps coming out and I spend no time keeping up to date) Aside from that, I'll also be looking at a modem upgrade, but I'm waiting to see if my cable delivers on time with their cable modems.. supposedly they are supposed to be up and running by january/febuary... we shall see Any other advice is appreciated... Please email me with your responses, I don't want to clog up the various lists I'm on with my quest for an affordable high-end computer upgrade. Thanks, Daniel Cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 01:27:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:27:13 +0100 From: Ralf X-Accept-Language: de-DE,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: finally rackmount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ralf Hi Marcel, glad to make you happy ;-)) >It fits very nicely - no problems with the cables! Looks impressive too :-) And what about the "V"-Mousepad ? Does it fit on your Desktop ? :-)))) Bye, Ralf ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 12:21:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:20:03 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Dead Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Haha! That's funny! I had this when I just bought my virus, it caused quite some panic. I didn't really have the money to buy it, and when it appears to be broke... When i read your message, it was the first I thought of though I didn't have a concert to do. Dimitri. At 18:15 28-12-98 +0000, you wrote: >* From "Roger King" > >Hi Anig, > >>Are there some funny capacitors in the Virus? The other day I switched mine on and it did the same thing - quick flash of the lights, then nothing. BUT I discovered that I didn't have the power plugged in. > >Erm.. on reflection I wish I hadn't posted _quite_ so quickly. This is precisely what I did. Stupid, stupid, stupid... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 12:30:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:29:56 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Things that shouldn't happen Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Ouch! Those experiences must shorten your life with at least one day! I once had a concert with my brother, where his EMAX sampler suddenly didn't work. So when we started there were beautifull strings and basses but... no drums at all!! When he was trying to revive his EMAX, I made an ambient remix of the song, turning some knobs, freaking some echo, but my brother didn't succeed to load the samples! So after some minutes we called it a day, and started an other song. The most funny thing of it was that the people thought that it was pretty cool that we came up with a song without the expected drums. They were dancing anyway, drums or not. Dimitri. At 22:20 28-12-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >It was saturday night and I was playing a gig. halfway through the show, about a minute before I was going to go into this very very big Virus-resonance-pad- thing, I suddenly hear a loud crackle. > >I turn around and look at the virus, everything flashes just one last time and goes black. I look underneath the table, thinking that I kicked the power supply out of the socket or some such mishap, but see the power supply and it is blowing smoke in all directions heavily. I was expecting to see flames any minute but that didn't happen. > >So here I was, about to play a solo and I had no instrument. Anja (my partner on stage) disconnected her midi footswitch and gave me her power supply, I connected that, half expecting that the Virus would be braindead anyways. but it actually came back on! > >So I smiled at the audience, took the old psu like a smoking dead rat that had just taken a laserblast and presented it to them and went on with the show like nothing happened.... > >The people thought we were very cool, actually I was thinking that this was probably the last minute of our show... My Virus was still acting weird after this, I guess it did get a little confused in the brain, so I had to reset it (if only I would have thought of that on stage, it left me twice after that in a weird crackling noise with an all yellow display) but it's fine again now... > >just a little story of my Nightmare After Christmas....;) > > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 15:36:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:52:58 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: machines on strike Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" let's hear more stories of machine going on strike in the middle of a gig. Recently I was djing with a friend, we were dubbing sounds into records with a Virus and another analog delay and about fifteen minutes after we really started to get people on the dancefloor we had to say the infamous line again: "Oops. I just blew the system..." (this line is something a very very famous DJ once said after doing exactly that 5 minutes into his show...) ok. Other people's stories. Mishaps, "Doh!"'s, "Oh No!"'s and other things that shouldn't happen...: think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 16:49:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:50:46 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: machines on strike X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi Guys !! You want a story?.. Here is a story! Last summer I had to perform live at a Birthday-Party.At this time I allready knew about Problems of my Virus.O.K, I went to this Party and started my work. Firstly, everything was fine.But after the third or fourth track my Virus stoped doing anything.Only a green Display and a heavy noisy Killersound on Out 1. I was shocked. I tryed to turn some knobs...and I was able to modulate this Noise a bit. I think nobody actually realized that this was not planed.In this moment it was a really cool effect.I restarted the Virus, but nothing happened.Green Display, No Sound.Only the Drummaschine was in function.I restarted the Virus six or seven times without luck.But then it was back alive and I finished my Performance.This was the hardest moment I ever had on Stage. The problems are completely fixed now.It was a defect in the Hardware. Christoph , Joerg and Achim helped me a lot in this case. Thank you all. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >let's hear more stories of machine going on strike in the middle of a gig. Recently I was djing with a friend, we were dubbing sounds into records with a Virus and another analog delay and about fifteen minutes after we really started to get people on the dancefloor we had to say the infamous line again: > >"Oops. I just blew the system..." > >(this line is something a very very famous DJ once said after doing exactly that 5 minutes into his show...) > >ok. Other people's stories. Mishaps, "Doh!"'s, "Oh No!"'s and other things that shouldn't happen...: > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 17:32:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: finally rackmount Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:35:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >And what about the "V"-Mousepad ? Does it fit on your Desktop ? :-)))) Ah yes, I forgot to mention that! Thanks very much for the Christmas gift! I'm not sure if I even want to use the mouse-pad...it may become a collectors item some day :-) Hope the money gets there soon! Later! Marcel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 19:56:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: machines on strike Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:59:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >let's hear more stories of machine going on strike in the middle of a gig. How about a stupid incident just before a gig? Once I couldn't get a peep out of my DX7, and found the (ridiculous) reason half an hour later, just before showtime - my 2 leads were hooked around each other (like links in a chain) and there was a rubber mat over the link, so it was: DX: Left output -> right output Mixer: Left input -> right input Can anyone get dumber than that? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 22:31:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Suggestion Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:28:05 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Blackstone Hamilton suggests... >... >second choice would be a voice allocation "view." Perhaps the symbol indicating MIDI activity could be switched in the OS to display that or voice allocation. Good idea. It could be numeric or you could take one character segment of the display (7 pixels x 5) and use it as two vertical bar graphs, each 6x2 pixels. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Dec 29 22:31:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: capacitors Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:28:07 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph writes... >This ability of capacitors to keep the voltage stand-alone is the reason why >it's e.g. dangerous to repair a television set, even a longer time after deplugging, because there the stored voltages are very high. Yes indeed, this is very dangerous. I attempted to fix a computer monitor early in my career...this is the only time I had the experience of flying without being high :-o Avoid! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 02:36:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: First impressions... Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:33:50 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau So I finally got a half a chance to lay my hands on a Virus. Spent about a hour yesterday at my local Guitar Center with the Virus, a pair of headphones, and some random controlling keyboard. Most of the time was spent listening to presets and twiddling knobs on presets. I have a slightly mixed first impression, but I think my concerns all addressable. (Also note that I've logged practically zero hours behind a synth, so be gentle... ;) 1) There were some very interesting presets, but there were some less interesting ones. When I twiddled a few knobs on some of the mundane sounds, I got some really different (interesting!) sounds. When I twiddled some more, I got something so completely different I lost track of the original sound. When I went back to the preset to get my bearings, I think I lost my twiddlings. Is this something the ever-requested "Compare" functionality would address? (It also seemed to me that most of the presets were higher-pitched sounds. But I think that was likely just because the controlling keyboard I was using was offset a little too far to my left to hit middle C notes easily, and the Virus was tranposing many notes by default.) 2) The preset sounds seem to be somewhat focused on techno type sounds. I'm more interested in very dirty sounds, be it gritty, lo-fi, or just plain old harsh. Does anyone here use the Virus for industrial or expirimental projects? Or at least, the dark side of techno (Black Lung, Panacea)? Does the Virus lend itself to this sort of sound? 3) Here's a question about the multitimbre / polyphonic capabilities. I don't understand why there are more available tibres (16) than voices (12). Why is this? I assume it's a matter of DSP power... but I'm wondering if there is some kind of time lag involved in switching voices, hence the extra available tibres? 4) The Virus is obviously made to be twiddled. I assume that I can get a sequencer to run all 16 tibres by the 16 MIDI channels. Is that what the multi is for? And if that's the case, how easy is it to switch the control surface (knobs, buttons, etc.) from one sound to another in that multi? I.E., I'm using the control surface to twiddle with a snare, but I want to start playing with a kick drum. 5) The power cord! The display unit's power was coming from a wall wart hidden someplace behind a couple other synths, so I couldn't tell if it was just some spare one they had, or if it was the "right" one. But at one point I picked up the Virus to check out it's construction (nice!), and the power cord FELL right out. The power cord was just barely hanging on when the Virus was sitting there. Please tell me that the was the wrong adapter, and the included wall-wart fits better... All that said, I have to say that the Access team has definately created a kick-ass product. I want to go back to the store and play with it more! In truth, I want to take it home with me. The control surface feels good to my fingers, it seems like a very responsive system, and the Access team has been very helpful on this list. Let's home that tax return is a hefty one, so I can get one for myself! --PBr ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 04:24:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:17:39 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn >2) The preset sounds seem to be somewhat focused on techno type sounds. I'm more interested in very dirty sounds, be it gritty, lo-fi, or just plain old harsh. Does anyone here use the Virus for industrial or expirimental projects? Or at least, the dark side of techno (Black Lung, Panacea)? Does the Virus lend itself to this sort of sound? > I use my virus for a lot of very staticish sounds.....lots of dark ass basses... it has a variable saturation...that you can crank for beatiful (if you like hissing and whatnot) clean distortion >5) The power cord! The display unit's power was coming from a wall wart hidden someplace behind a couple other synths, so I couldn't tell if it was just some spare one they had, or if it was the "right" one. But at one point I picked up the Virus to check out it's construction (nice!), and the power cord FELL right out. The power cord was just barely hanging on when the Virus was sitting there. Please tell me that the was the wrong adapter, and the included wall-wart fits better... > It's a lump in the line, and no it doesn't seat well > >All that said, I have to say that the Access team has definately created a kick-ass product. I want to go back to the store and play with it more! In truth, I want to take it home with me. The control surface feels good to my fingers, it seems like a very responsive system, and the Access team has been very helpful on this list. Let's home that tax return is a hefty one, so I can get one for myself! > >--PBr > >_______ I think my Virus is one of the best buys I've ever made....it's the shizz CrazyJON >____________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 09:43:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Martin Selway" To: Subject: Re: First impressions... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:42:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Selway" >3) Here's a question about the multitimbre / polyphonic capabilities. I don't understand why there are more available tibres (16) than voices (12). Why is this? I assume it's a matter of DSP power... but I'm wondering if there is some kind of time lag involved in switching voices, hence the extra available tibres? > External inputs or rerouting through the internal Aux bus can use a multitimbral part withouht stealing a part from the 12 polyfoni. MARTIN ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 09:49:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Dead Virus Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 08:43:17 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >So in the future we should not be angry if we have technical problem and the hotline asks us if we plugged in the unit :-) That's what we always ask : "did you plug your midi cables correctly?" :) >BTW: Someone wants to see this flash? It's harmless: Switch of the Virus on its regular switch, then deplug the power supply from the wall and switch on the Virus. I save that for tomorrow to have big new years eve! :) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH private homepage: http://listen.to/soundvisions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 12:26:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:22:07 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:17 AM +0100 on 30.12.1998 CrAzYjOn wrote: >>hanging on when the Virus was sitting there. Please tell me that the was the wrong adapter, and the included wall-wart fits better... >> > >It's a lump in the line, and no it doesn't seat well Remember there is always duct-tape. And as an old After Dark screensaver used to tell me: "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a a dark side and it holds the universe together"...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 15:24:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:22:27 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: First impressions... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont >* From Paul Brousseau > >So I finally got a half a chance to lay my hands on a Virus. Spent about a hour yesterday at my local Guitar Center with the Virus, a pair Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! Does anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? >Is this something the >ever-requested "Compare" functionality would >address? (It also seemed I thought I would note that (though I've never got to use a virus before) I would guess that this would be pretty easy to work around by always working in a multi and having "part 1" of the multi set to the sound that you are manipulating and then set "part 2" to the original sound in order to hear the difference. This would most likely work, I'd guess. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 15:37:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:34:36 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Well, at my page at http://145.99.128.7/dimi there's some lo-quality demo's available. Take a look tomorrow, because my server is down today. The last three were made with the Virus and a sampler. And canine has a vocoder demo on his page. Bye! Dimitri. At 06:22 30-12-98 -0800, you wrote: >* From Hugh Beaumont > > >>* From Paul Brousseau >> >>So I finally got a half a chance to lay my hands on a Virus. Spent about a hour yesterday at my local Guitar Center with the Virus, a >pair > >Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! Does anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? > >>Is this something the >>ever-requested "Compare" functionality would >address? (It also >seemed > >I thought I would note that (though I've never got to use a virus before) I would guess that this would be pretty easy to work around by always working in a multi and having "part 1" of the multi set to the sound that you are manipulating and then set "part 2" to the original sound in order to hear the difference. This would most likely work, I'd guess. > > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 15:50:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: digix@pop.internal.mindspring.com Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:49:36 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Digital - X Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Digital - X >Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! Does anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? Not sure about Chicago, but I bought mine from Guitar Center in Atlanta. It took them a few months to get them in, but they have a demo there as well. As far as sound bytes, check out Canine's page at http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus. Tom ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 19:25:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: First impressions... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:23:21 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau I played with one at the Guitar Center in El Cerrito, California. They have a floor unit and one in stock; maybe you can ask the Chicago guys to see if they can borrow a unit from one of their sister stores in the chain so you can try it out. --PBr >-----Original Message----- >From: Hugh Beaumont [SMTP:hbeaumont@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 6:22 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: First impressions... > >* From Hugh Beaumont > >>* From Paul Brousseau So I finally got a half a chance to lay my hands on a Virus. Spent about a hour yesterday at my local Guitar Center with the Virus, a >pair > >Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 20:53:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: Subject: Re: First impressions... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:50:19 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" >* From Hugh Beaumont > > >>* From Paul Brousseau >> >>So I finally got a half a chance to lay my hands on a Virus. Spent about a hour yesterday at my local Guitar Center with the Virus, a >pair > >Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! Does anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? The Chicago-area one will not get the virus. I can't stand the idiots over at guitar center in chicago (I actually go to the arlington heights location because I am in the suburbs, but its just the way guitar center is overall..) actually, i dont know of any store in the area that actually carries them to check out.. Gand music carries nord leads, etc, but not a virus in stock. Maybe its changed since I last called, but I doubt it. I bought my virus blindly, and don't regret it at all. Its better than the jp8000, nord lead, any of the quasimidi products, etc, etc. For virtual analog I don't think there is any better, except for possibly the nord modular which is obviously more flexible, but I find the virus very hands on which is different from my favorite synth, the kurzweil k2000, which is very deep, and not as obvious, but, despite some critics, I find the k2000 incredibly easy to program also. You have the separate blocks you assign to whatever you want, and it shows you graphically, you enter into those submenus and select the option depending on what it is, and the control sources, which can be assigned by simply pressing enter and then moving the controller. Even though I have a few other synths, a kawai k5000s, a korg prophecy and a yamaha tg77, I find I rarely touch them in contrast to the k2000 and virus. These two make an incredible combination. Daniel Cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal > >>Is this something the >>ever-requested "Compare" functionality would >address? (It also >seemed > >I thought I would note that (though I've never got to use a virus before) I would guess that this would be pretty easy to work around by always working in a multi and having "part 1" of the multi set to the sound that you are manipulating and then set "part 2" to the original sound in order to hear the difference. This would most likely work, I'd guess. > > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Dec 30 23:56:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:45:53 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! So just BUY it then! You will *NOT* regret it, honestly. >Does >anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? Well, I think that Canine's site pretty much takes care of all that... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 06:09:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: Subject: Re: First impressions... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:05:31 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 30.12.98 15:29:49 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! Does anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? >> > > >This is very interesting, because after long period of delays the availability >of Virus should be100 %, at least since two or three months. > >My question is: Is anyone on the list that also has actual problems to get a >Virus or do you know about friends that have this problem at the moment? Are there any stores that never heard about the Virus, or still have large delays? > >Please send your reply directly to my address, since this topic might be less >interesting for the rest of the list. > >Thanks > >Christoph Kemper >access music You have the wrong impression.. I stated "Guitar Center in chicago will never have the unit..." because its NOT an availability issue. Its an issue of idiots really pushing roland gear because they only care about trying to make the most $ that they can. the people at the guitar center in arlington heights dont know about many synths in general including waldorf gear, clavia gear, the access virus, or what have you. they hardly know anything about the synths in the shop and they know little about programming synths in general. What is so frustrating is their "holier than thou" type of attitude though. I went in to ask about the creamware pulsar because they did have it advertised.. First the guy who ran the department said "we won't be selling that.." after I explained to him what it was and that it was in the ad (which granted is a national ad, but is for all chains..) he said he had no idea, and that it wasnt a good product. Further discussion with him revealed he didnt even know what the product really did. He claimed "Creamware was really good 2 years ago, but everything they have out now, or are coming out with is shit." I asked if he'd ever seen the pulsar in action, which of course he hadnt. I asked what type of gear was comparable, he told me the dsp factory, which is not. It has no synthesis, it is a locked in system, and doesnt run plugins or anything from a general dsp resource pool, but rather it does what it does and thats it (that may be a good thing if what you are after is what the dsp factory does...) then he claimed the emu creation studio, which is just some bullshit audio card sampler with no real synthesis capabilities, and of course absolutely no type of environment for multitrack recording... the people in synth stores frustrate me in general, because I suppose the folks who really know anything about synths arent working in these stores. they are either working for companies designing synths, software, or making music for a living. in any case christoph, i was working on a song tonight, and once again was reminded how much i love the virus. thanks. daniel cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 06:42:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:39:33 EST To: terminal@xnet.com, access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 12/30/98 1:59:27 PM, terminal@xnet.com writes: >>Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the darn thing! Does anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? > > >The Chicago-area one will not get the virus. I can't stand the idiots over at guitar center in chicago (I actually go to the arlington heights location because I am in the suburbs, but its just the way guitar center is overall..) actually, i dont know of any store in the area that actually carries them to check out.. Gand music carries nord leads, etc, but not a virus in stock. Maybe its changed since I last called, but I doubt it. The Guitar Center on Halstead in Chicago had one in stock the last two times I was there (though they had it over by a DAW desk, as opposed to the keyboard racks), and Gand Music has had one in stock every time i was there the past few months. Marshall (bought mine mail-order) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 11:31:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:28:38 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! At 23:05 30-12-98 -0600, you wrote: >Further discussion with him revealed >he didnt even know what the product really did. He claimed "Creamware was really good 2 years ago, but everything they have out now, or are coming out with is shit." I was called by the store when the Virus arrived, which I just wanted to try out. After the first sounds the shopkeeper of 'Dijkman muziekinstrumenten', where I bought my Virus, said "I see that the time of 25 years ago come back." He meant that the virus was a novelty just like the first commercial analogue synths. He has some 30 years of synth experience. I have to agree. Fortunately not all musicstores are crap. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 14:33:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:29:34 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: finally rackmount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker Where did you get the rackmount kit ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 16:07:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:06:18 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: First impressions... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont >>Does >>anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't have ANY demo's >>of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? > >Well, I think that Canine's site pretty much takes care of all that... > > i agree(for the most part). however it just seems odd to me that a company which is so pro-active with internet support(via this mailing list) does not have something as simple as a full image of their product online. waldorf seems to share this problem. also, though i appreciate the clips on canine's site. i would have to say that if i based my decision *only* on the clips there and what i have heard from playing any other va synth, i would choose any of the others over the virus. most of the clips(until the recent mp3) are not really enough to convince the average consumer. as for me, i fell in love with the machine the first time i saw it. looks alone are enough for me :) though i do want to play one before i give out over a thousand bucks :) end the end, i don't mean my remarks as complaints. they are meant more as constructive critism to help what i feel is a wonderful company with a wonderful product. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 16:50:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: finally rackmount Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:52:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Unkas Gemmeker > >Where did you get the rackmount kit ? I got it from someone from this list... But I also contacted a few shops in Germany, they are also on the web and they have it too. It's at: http://www.musicstorekoeln.de Email: bestellung@musicstorekoeln.de Good luck! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 18:17:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:12:56 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, Maybe that's why they call it "Guitar Center" and not "Synth Center" ? Just an idea.... ;-) Ciao, Joeri >I stated "Guitar Center in chicago will never have the unit..." because its NOT an availability issue.... the people at the guitar center in arlington heights dont know about many synths in general ... -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List "Microsoft has announced the release of Windows2000 will be delayed until 1901." ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 18:52:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:40:49 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: First impressions... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:06 PM +0100 on 31.12.1998 Hugh Beaumont wrote: >over the virus. most of the clips(until the recent mp3) are not really enough to convince the average consumer. Thanks for the feedback. But I didn't really mean them as clips to convince anyone. The idea of these clips was only to show my interpretation of what the Virus can do. And I wanted it to be a very biased interpretation in order to show people who might arrive at something completely different after their first contact with the Virus (in the shop for example). Just to give them another perspective...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 18:52:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:44:13 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Rock on! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hey kids, I want to wish everyone a great, awesome, wonderful, grooving, rocking, sexy, loving, tender touching and healthy new year 1999. Don't listen to Prince's record too often, he'll get too rich, it'll spoil him...;) Right now it's: "Last stop before 2K", I guess...;) and a warm word down to the pacific where our australian friends have welcomed the new year already... I have a little over 5h to go (GMT+1) Rock on! canine ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 18:52:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Y Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:49:21 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton I'm a little baffled. Christmas is X and New Year's is Y. Obviously Y follows X in the English alphabet, and I can see this relationship here, but considering Z is the last letter, I would have expected this announcement to have been Z. If Z is not the New Year's announcement, then what will it be? Perhaps, since delay lines in physical modelling are represented algebraically with a series of Z1's, perhaps this will be the next addition to the Virus OS. Nevermind...XY to you as well. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 7:11 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Y >> >> >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >> >>Hi boyz 'n' girlz on the list >> >>The access team wish you a groovy new year! >> >>Don't wait and touch me >> >> >>Christoph Kemper >>Guido Kirsch >>Jörg Meissner >>Thorsten Matuschowski >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 20:45:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: Shitty Service Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:41:58 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton Like you, I experienced a great deal of frustration when shopping for synths costing between $1000-$5000. When I finally accepted the fact that the staff in music stores are people who more or less found themselves in need of a job and who were born by circumstance with enough education to recognize the difference between a guitar and a synthesizer, but not much more knowledge than this, my frustration was mitigated. The problem is bigger than the music business though. I can't say for the rest of the world, but if you look around you, in the US, this phenomenon is wide-sweeping. It has to do with the economy of scale and a McDonald's type business model. Essentially this means that the consumer is driven to purchase, not on service or value but rather by low prices. The most expensive resource for any business is personnel. So therefore, you make the business more profitable by making it operable by people just enough intellect to operate a cash register (which they have to be trained to use). Take a look at the trend. We have OfficeMax, Staples, IKEA, Home Depot, Costco, etc. The list goes on and on. This business model places the onus of information gathering on the consumer and the manufacturer's advertising conduit. The retailers have stripped all of the service component out of their business other than to provide a portal to goods. The upside is that a resourceful and diligent consumer can get goods for less expense (if you don't factor the research cost). It's really unrealistic to expect any knowledge from a salesperson ANYWHERE. If you do find a knowledgeable person, consider this an anomaly and yourself fortunate. However, be suspicious, because the information you get is likely to be inaccurate to some degree. I recommned you only seek the following knowledge retail personnel. "Do you have XYZ item or can you get it?" and "What is your price?" This is all they have the capacity or INCENTIVE to know. If you seek only this information from them, I predict your frustration will quickly come to end. Picture yourself in a swarming fishmarket, and that is the mentality that will serve you best. Haggle with them and accept only the best price. After all, YOU are the expert on the product you are buying. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Terminal Bliss [mailto:terminal@xnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 9:06 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: First impressions... >> >> >>* From "Terminal Bliss" >> >> >>>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >>> >>>In einer eMail vom 30.12.98 15:29:49 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >>> >>>> >>>>Might I ask which guitar center this was at? I keep waiting for a Chicago area store to get one in. I've got my money ready but have NEVER got to play the the >>darn thing! Does >>>>anyone find it really bad that the tsi website doesn't >>have ANY demo's >>>>of the virus online? and only 1/4 of a picture? >>>> >>> >>> >>>This is very interesting, because after long period of delays the >>availability >>>of Virus should be100 %, at least since two or three months. >>> >>>My question is: Is anyone on the list that also has actual >>problems to get >>a >>>Virus or do you know about friends that have this problem >>at the moment? >>>Are there any stores that never heard about the Virus, or >>still have large >>>delays? >>> >>>Please send your reply directly to my address, since this >>topic might be >>less >>>interesting for the rest of the list. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Christoph Kemper >>>access music >> >> >>You have the wrong impression.. I stated "Guitar Center in chicago will >>never have the unit..." because its NOT an availability issue. Its an issue >>of idiots really pushing roland gear because they only care about trying to >>make the most $ that they can. the people at the guitar center in arlington >>heights dont know about many synths in general including waldorf gear, >>clavia gear, the access virus, or what have you. they hardly know anything >>about the synths in the shop and they know little about programming synths >>in general. >> >>What is so frustrating is their "holier than thou" type of attitude though. >>I went in to ask about the creamware pulsar because they did have it advertised.. First the guy who ran the department said "we won't be selling >>that.." after I explained to him what it was and that it was in the ad >>(which granted is a national ad, but is for all chains..) he said he had no >>idea, and that it wasnt a good product. Further discussion with him revealed >>he didnt even know what the product really did. He claimed "Creamware was >>really good 2 years ago, but everything they have out now, or are coming out >>with is shit." I asked if he'd ever seen the pulsar in action, which of >>course he hadnt. I asked what type of gear was comparable, he told me the >>dsp factory, which is not. It has no synthesis, it is a locked in system, >>and doesnt run plugins or anything from a general dsp resource pool, but >>rather it does what it does and thats it (that may be a good thing if what >>you are after is what the dsp factory does...) then he claimed the emu >>creation studio, which is just some bullshit audio card sampler with no real >>synthesis capabilities, and of course absolutely no type of environment for >>multitrack recording... >> >>the people in synth stores frustrate me in general, because I suppose the >>folks who really know anything about synths arent working in these stores. >>they are either working for companies designing synths, software, or making >>music for a living. >> >>in any case christoph, i was working on a song tonight, and once again was >>reminded how much i love the virus. thanks. >> >>daniel cain >>terminal@xnet.com >>www.xnet.com/~terminal >> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 20:59:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Eric Kant" To: , Subject: [Akai][Access-Virus][OFF] 1999 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:57:35 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eric Kant" Hi ! For evereybody on the lists: Best wishes for 1999!!!!!!!!!! With a lot of new o.s.'s /synth's and happy sequencing... (I hope to reach the (Rabo) top 10 this year.....-:) Eric. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Dec 31 22:11:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 21:52:39 +0100 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: XY X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi to everybody ! ... and a happy new year! Ohhps!! I have to hurry. It´s late. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!