X-From_: access-list-return-318-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 02:57:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:54:36 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hello people, I would suggest Michael & James stop moving their mouths, 'cause they ain't saying much. The Macintosh is not all roses. It has a single mouse button, weak multi-tasking, fixed memory allocations, loses mega performance with virtual memory enabled, lacks memory protection against rogue apps, awful design in the Chooser area & dodgy networking, has typically weak on-line help... Quake 3 is an app which has been optimized for G4, stresses all processor functions well (memory, integer, and FPU), and at 640 by 480 is processor-bound rather than video-bound. Tests have been run on Athlon 800 versus G4 450, with similar video cards. The frame rate was 94% higher on the Athlon. Since I feel I'm not talking with the brightest lamps in the class, I'll spell it out : almost twice as fast. http://www5.tomshardware.com/graphic/99q3/990825/athlon_graphic-04.html http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/MP960/ If you want to use a Mac, that's fine. As a professional software designer & developer I've coded for them as well as for Windows. But in the end they're just a tool, not a penis substitute. And I don't hassle you about your choice, or make snide remarks. That's because I'm not a fuckwit. Bite me, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-319-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 03:40:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: stephens@pop.ricochet.net Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:37:28 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Ron Stephens Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B At 02:54 PM 11/19/1999 +1300, you wrote: If you want to use a Mac, that's fine. As a professional software designer & developer I've coded for them as well as for Windows. But in the end they're just a tool, not a penis substitute. And I don't hassle you about your choice, or make snide remarks. That's because I'm not a fuckwit. Bite me, Thomas Testy today, aren't we, -ron X-From_: access-list-return-320-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 04:10:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:13:05 -0500 From: James Quackenbush To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Thomas Whitmore wrote: > >Hello people, > >I would suggest Michael & James stop moving their mouths, 'cause they ain't saying much. > >The Macintosh is not all roses. It has a single mouse button, weak multi-tasking, fixed memory allocations, loses mega performance with virtual memory enabled, lacks memory protection against rogue apps, awful design in the Chooser area & dodgy networking, has typically weak on-line help... > >Quake 3 is an app which has been optimized for G4, stresses all processor functions well (memory, integer, and FPU), and at 640 by 480 is processor-bound rather than video-bound. > >Tests have been run on Athlon 800 versus G4 450, with similar video cards. The frame rate was 94% higher on the Athlon. Since I feel I'm not talking with the brightest lamps in the class, I'll spell it out : almost twice as fast. > >http://www5.tomshardware.com/graphic/99q3/990825/athlon_graphic-04.html > >http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/MP960/ > >If you want to use a Mac, that's fine. As a professional software designer & developer I've coded for them as well as for Windows. But in the end they're just a tool, not a penis substitute. > >And I don't hassle you about your choice, or make snide remarks. That's because I'm not a fuckwit. > >Bite me, >Thomas Thomas, Thanks for the kind words, and suggestions, and sharing your knowledge with us.....While we're on the subject of suggestions, let me suggest to you that maybe it would be in your best interest to find someone to help you manage your anger....I never called you a fuckwit,and no, I won't bite you........Get help...JimX-From_: access-list-return-321-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 04:17:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:19:57 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Jesus Christ, not again.... PLEEEEEAAAAASSSEEE take this off the list! I don't want to read it! Cam At 10:13 PM 11/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >Thomas Whitmore wrote: >> >>Hello people, >> >>I would suggest Michael & James stop moving their mouths, 'cause they ain't saying much. >> >>The Macintosh is not all roses. It has a single mouse button, weak multi-tasking, fixed memory allocations, loses mega performance with virtual >>memory enabled, lacks memory protection against rogue apps, awful design in the Chooser area & dodgy networking, has typically weak on-line help... >> >>Quake 3 is an app which has been optimized for G4, stresses all processor functions well (memory, integer, and FPU), and at 640 by 480 is processor-bound rather than video-bound. >> >>Tests have been run on Athlon 800 versus G4 450, with similar video cards. The frame rate was 94% higher on the Athlon. Since I feel I'm not talking with the brightest lamps in the class, I'll spell it out : almost twice as fast. >> >>http://www5.tomshardware.com/graphic/99q3/990825/athlon_graphic-04.html >> >>http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/MP960/ >> >>If you want to use a Mac, that's fine. As a professional software designer & >>developer I've coded for them as well as for Windows. But in the end they're >>just a tool, not a penis substitute. >> >>And I don't hassle you about your choice, or make snide remarks. That's because I'm not a fuckwit. >> >>Bite me, >>Thomas >Thomas, >Thanks for the kind words, and suggestions, and sharing your knowledge with us.....While we're on the subject of suggestions, let me suggest to you that maybe it would be in your best interest to find someone to help you manage your anger....I never called you a fuckwit,and no, I won't bite you........Get help...Jim > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-322-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 04:21:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:24:23 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: New song uploaded to MP3.com Hey kids. I have uploaded one of my most recent songs to my site at www.mp3.com/freon It's called Jehannum/Remorse and is really two songs in one. It features the Virus prominently, as I used it for everything but the drums. It's a bit hefty at 9 megs or so, but it's pretty cool so check it out!!!!!!!! CDs will be available of my music at mp3.com soon too... I will keep you updated. Cam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-323-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 04:43:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:44:12 -0800 X-Priority: 3 This guy just made my "delete off server before downloading" filter... first one of a few I suspect. Sad too since they might have something worth while to contribute once in a while, but for the most part anyone that brings me down while reading my Virus info... anyone that says a whole lot of nothing... gets the filter. This is a wonderful list due to the people and the product and I intend to clean it up on my end with the filter. I would suggest we all do this, and soon those that have nobody left to talk too (those that have been filtered out), and ask for help, will realise they have to not only change their act if they want to be part of the group again. Those that are passive aggressive or covert are filtered.... You are a problem, you are not any solution. Even if its the smallest of child like issues... I don't care if your the best sound designer on the planet... your filtered. I'm tired of reading this for over 6 months now and seeing the same people doing the same things. (This also goes for the spineless guy that asked me to 'trade' the Rob Papen set of sounds for some set that he 'bought'... that is not what the list is for, or why I'm here.) It's time some people learn what manners and responsibilty are. Jay doesn't need to waste his time being a mother. Take note, that the Virus List is archived. People will read what you wrote even years from now... I would suggest you represent yourselves in a way you won't regret later. Better yet, if you create a positive reality, the ripples will come back positive. Tho who are angery choose to be. To the rest you... you are the solution. And I look forward to continued reading/learning. :-) James -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Whitmore To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B >Hello people, > >I would suggest Michael & James stop moving their mouths, 'cause they ain't saying much. > >The Macintosh is not all roses. It has a single mouse button, weak multi-tasking, fixed memory allocations, loses mega performance with virtual >memory enabled, lacks memory protection against rogue apps, awful design in the Chooser area & dodgy networking, has typically weak on-line help... > >Quake 3 is an app which has been optimized for G4, stresses all processor functions well (memory, integer, and FPU), and at 640 by 480 is processor-bound rather than video-bound. > >Tests have been run on Athlon 800 versus G4 450, with similar video cards. The frame rate was 94% higher on the Athlon. Since I feel I'm not talking with the brightest lamps in the class, I'll spell it out : almost twice as fast. > >http://www5.tomshardware.com/graphic/99q3/990825/athlon_graphic-04.html > >http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/MP960/ > > >If you want to use a Mac, that's fine. As a professional software designer & >developer I've coded for them as well as for Windows. But in the end they're >just a tool, not a penis substitute. > >And I don't hassle you about your choice, or make snide remarks. That's because I'm not a fuckwit. > > >Bite me, >Thomas > X-From_: access-list-return-324-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 05:05:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:03:55 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Enough is enough. Read this message about the Access-List. Okay, this is the 2nd time I've had to do this. A guideline for continued membership in the access-list: *DO NOT FLAME ANYONE DIRECTLY ON THE LIST* This includes name-calling, platform bigotry, and whiney complaints about Access. I don't wanna read it on the Access list, and I don't want to have to warn you folks about it again. If you can't refrain from swearing at someone, if you can't refrain from being uncivilized, then just unsubscribe yourself and leave the rest of us to maintain a productive, useful, friendly list. I don't want to have to warn you folks about this again. The Access list has been a great list, but unless you guys keep it productive and sane I'm going to have to start unsubscribing repeat offenders... One last time: *DO NOT FLAME ANYONE DIRECTLY ON THE LIST* I mean it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-325-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 05:14:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:11:19 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hello James, >Thanks for the kind words, and suggestions, and sharing your knowledge with us..... I do serious talk with people who don't make inane comments. That category can include you, if you want. >While we're on the subject of suggestions, let me suggest to you that maybe it would be in your best interest to find someone to help you manage your anger.... You aren't irritating enough to make me angry. In the area of dickheads I've dealt with bigger & better than you. Take your licks like a man and stop complaining. You started this in the first place, remember? >I never called you a fuckwit, Neither did I. You're probably, and I'd hope, not a fuckwit but I'm making *your* choice crystal clear for you. Don't thank me, but you could send money. Love, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-326-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 05:26:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:22:49 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hello Cam, >Jesus Christ, not again.... PLEEEEEAAAAASSSEEE take this off the list! I don't want to read it! Interesting how you never complain about the original offensive posts, only (my) responses criticizing those. I don't mind if you stick your oar in, to kill such discussions. I do mind very much if you do this in a biased fashion. So, are you going to lift your game? Thomas PS : If you didn't want to read it, you shouldn't be quoting a post in its entirety.X-From_: access-list-return-327-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 05:36:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: New song uploaded to MP3.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:37:30 -0800 X-Priority: 3 This is sweet ! I can set this up to loop over and over. NICE. Nice patch creation too. I'm gonna forward this link to a buddy that wants to by a Virus, he'll love it. Kintama >Hey kids. I have uploaded one of my most recent songs to my site at > >www.mp3.com/freon > >It's called Jehannum/Remorse and is really two songs in one. It features the Virus prominently, as I used it for everything but the drums. It's a bit hefty at 9 megs or so, but it's pretty cool so check it out!!!!!!!! > >CDs will be available of my music at mp3.com soon too... I will keep you updated. > >Cam > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|= > X-From_: access-list-return-328-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 06:43:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:42:34 EST Subject: FS: VIRUS racked To: access-list@teklab.com hi, If anyone would like to buy a Virus A racked email me and we can discuss the price (or quicker if you make an offer). I am upgrading to the B version. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-329-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 07:05:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:01:15 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Cc: thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz, synthnut@cyburban.com At 05:11 PM 11/19/99 +1300, you wrote: Hello James, >Thanks for the kind words, and suggestions, and sharing your knowledge with us..... I do serious talk with people who don't make inane comments. That category can include you, if you want. >While we're on the subject of suggestions, let me suggest to you that maybe it would be in your best interest to find someone to help you manage your anger.... You aren't irritating enough to make me angry. In the area of dickheads I've dealt with bigger & better than you. Take your licks like a man and stop complaining. You started this in the first place, remember? >I never called you a fuckwit, Neither did I. You're probably, and I'd hope, not a fuckwit but I'm making *your* choice crystal clear for you. Don't thank me, but you could send money. Love, Thomas Thomas and James, If either of you insists on continuing this on the access-list, I will unsubscribe you. This is totally inappropriate for this mailing list, and I am not willing to have my resources tied up with your personal flames to each other. Send these to each other in private if you insist - nobody wants to read this on the list. This thread stops here. Both of you, grow up. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-330-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 08:03:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 02:02:41 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Enough is enough. Read this message about the Access-List. On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jay Vaughan wrote: > *DO NOT FLAME ANYONE DIRECTLY ON THE LIST* > >This includes name-calling, platform bigotry, and whiney complaints about Access. Jay, I can understand the name calling, and even maybe the platform bigotry, but I think whiney complaints about Access have their place here. Not everybody is going to be pleased with the company no matter how awesome they are, and that person will want some answers. So I guess what i'm saying is, what exactly do you mean by whiney? MoX-From_: access-list-return-331-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 08:04:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:03:42 +0200 X-Priority: 3 >Bite me, >Thomas > Where should I 'bite-thee' oh misteress? (Oh S****, I hope you're a missress, I would not like to come out the closet on the Internet :)) cyber7 http://go.to/cyber7 http://cyber7.musicpage.com http://www.mp3.com/cyber7X-From_: access-list-return-332-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 08:32:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Release 3 of the VIRUS OS... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:18:22 +0200 X-Priority: 1 >FROM CAM: Access (from all appearances to date) doesn't create vapourware. Hallo everyone, I have to add my opinion. I have been looking at the VIRUS and it's glossy for the last 2 years. The original spec of the (Shall we call it the VIRUS-a?) machine (As per the sales glossy) was reached at release 1.51. The original machine has by far surpassed the 'glossy' and you can see the OS is written by someone who wants to get the most out of the machine, not the most sales. Up to this point, I have never seen ACCESS advertise their new OS as a purchased OS (Please see V2 A3K...). All I have seen is dedicated people who cares about their product. Now my question: If I can see that the VIRUS is built by people who cares, why, WHY, WHY are you dissin' the creators of the machine? If I was the creator of this 'god-like' machine, I would be most 'pissed-off' with the general response that was reflected on this list. Please note that if the list reflects that people feel that ACCESS has neglected the 'VIRUS-a' users, after what was done for the machine, it might create such a negative feeling that no future releases of the VIRUS-a OS would become available. AND I KNOW THAT IT IS NOT THE GENERAL CASE, BUT ONLY A 1% OF SUBSCRIBERS WHO FEELS NEGATIVE! I have only had the machine for a odd 24hrs, and can see what the hype is about... Just my 10c, and I hope that I have eased some of the people here's thoughts on ACCESS/VIRUS-A cyber7 http://cyber7.musicpage.com http://go.to/cyber7 http://www.mp3.com/cyber7X-From_: access-list-return-333-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 09:22:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:53:33 +0330 (GMT+03:30) From: dimi@dds.nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: O don't like the tone some people use to communicate on this list. WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Please stop it. Thanks, Dimitri.X-From_: access-list-return-334-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 10:24:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:26:45 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: New song uploaded to MP3.com Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. I may post some more of my stuff next week, time of course permitting. Would you like me to add you to the informal list of email addresses I'm keeping to inform people of updates? Cam At 08:37 PM 11/18/99 -0800, you wrote: >This is sweet ! I can set this up to loop over and over. NICE. > >Nice patch creation too. I'm gonna forward this link to a buddy that wants to by a Virus, he'll love it. > >Kintama > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-335-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 10:27:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:30:00 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: New song uploaded to MP3.com Sorry, folks, that was supposed to be private.... but, since you're already reading this, would anyone else like to be added to the list? Cam At 01:26 AM 11/19/99 -0800, you wrote: >Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. I may post some more of my stuff next week, time of course permitting. Would you like me to add you to the informal list of email addresses I'm keeping to inform people of updates? > >Cam > >At 08:37 PM 11/18/99 -0800, you wrote: >>This is sweet ! I can set this up to loop over and over. NICE. >> >>Nice patch creation too. I'm gonna forward this link to a buddy that wants to by a Virus, he'll love it. >> >>Kintama >> > > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|= > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-336-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 11:12:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: akyuz@mimoza.netas.com.tr Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:46:17 +0200 From: Tugrul Akyuz Organization: NETAS To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Digital Lower Registers (was: Virus-Nova) Ok. I'm not a virus owner., but the answer of this question is important for me. One of my friends is in USA, and in 4 days he will come back. He's waiting now from me the decision of buying a Virus or Nova. The extra wave shapes(3-64 I guess) can be generated from ROM table, that's OK for me, but saw and pulse waves which are the kernel of an analogue synth should generated by DSPs.Sorry of my instantence about this subject, but in my country there are not any Virus dealers, so I can't try one. In order to check if saw and pulse waves are generated form ROM table or from DSP you can select a pure saw or pulse wave in the bass note(not too low) and set the the pitch range +/- 36, then by using your pitch midi controller you can see if this is true ot not. if this is from DSP you have to hear high frequency components(beeps). Thanks in advanceI Tugrul AKyuz Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >hi ... > >I've been using my Virus for several months now, and I have *no idea* what you are referring to. I have a feeling that this silliness was first written by an uninformed magazine journalist, then further perpetuated by corresponding non-journalists. > >In fact, the reader at dreamgirls.co.uk freely admits that he doesn't even *own* a Virus. > >I *do* know about the effect of playing samples at a much lower frequency than they were recorded. The digital-ness is quite apparent in my Akai S3000XL when playing a sample 2 octaves lower than its natural frequency. But I suspect that those who claim to hear this effect thru the Virus are merely trying *really* hard to hear this, and have successfully convinced their brain that it exists. > >I make very smooth (and non-digital) bass sounds on my Virus and could not be more happy with its performance. > >I know about Christoph's technique of waveform-smoothing that he used for the waveshapes (3-63), and am confident that it is totally effective, even down to the 1Hz level that he claims. > >Trying my best to crush misconceptions, zs > >S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: >> >>* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >> >>>Hello, >>> >>>It is true about the digital slowed down thing at the lower ends of the keyboard (definitely noticable to me... but i'm no synth genius). And if its a smoother sound you want then get the Nova. >>> >> >>I've never noticed anything like this in the lower register. What is "digital slowed down" meant to sound like. >> >>I have noticed digital artefacts associated with very high notes but I've never heard any kind of digital synth / sampler that didn't produce these. >> >>Steve >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: access-list-return-337-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 11:19:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Bacon/Claps and Water with FM and Noise Modulation Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:20:05 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi list, There was a bit of noise on the list, so I tough that it would maybe a good idea to tell the list how 3.0 is going. (I have a beta version for making and adjusting sounds). Besides all the great features you did read on the Access webpage I have some details to tell you from a thing I also liked. The noise-color and the new FM functions made me make three funny sounds you maybe will find in the new 3.0 I did set the noise-color to Pink and used it as source in the FM modulation of the oscillator (sinus waveform). The results are: Claps (like the ones from the 80's) Bacon (a sound from my kitchen) Water (a small river here in Holland). You may try this also with other synths of course. Ps. The phaser is the best I have heard in a synth till now! Also the analog boost is very cool, especially when you have Dynaudio Acoustics BM-15 speakers (they rule my studio). best regards, Rob Papen (Infected by a Virus) ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM - PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________X-From_: access-list-return-340-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 12:41:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: stephens@pop.ricochet.net Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 03:38:08 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Ron Stephens Subject: Re: Digital Lower Registers (was: Virus-Nova) HEY, Wait A Second! 0% to 50% is THE SAME AS 100% to 50%, no? The spectra would be EXACTLY the same, right? So can you explain when it matters? Seems that the only time it would matter would be if the oscillator could be used as a MODULATION SOURCE. But, if you included a ramp generator in the modulation matrix, then even THEN it wouldn't matter, from what I can tell... -ron At 06:03 AM 11/19/1999 -0500, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: Tugrul, You are right, if the Sawtooth or Pulse waves was sampled, you would hear beeps (when a simple Sample-interpolation is used), or the sound is just dull (when a good Sample-interpolaton is used). The Virus oscillators calculates the Saw and Pulse in real-time, thus none of both effects is present! By the way: The pulse width is adjustable up and down to 0% / 100%. Compare it! X-From_: access-list-return-341-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 13:46:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: A manual question - It might sound stupid... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:50:37 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Hi, everyone. I have a question, namely: How do you know which MANUAL you are reading? I got a manual with my VIRUS-b and it is different (ever-so-slightly) to the one available on 'the dog' page (Canine). How do I assitane which manual I got with the VIRUS-b? Then the addendum... I got a addition for kb/b release, but this does not have the same info as the ADDENDUM from the 'dog' webpage. This is becoming very confusing:)) To add to the confution, I heard that there is a manual that specifically speaks about the vocoder. Am I supposed to have only 2 or 3 or 4 manuals... Ps - Does anyone know where the 'DOG' slang comes from that you see on American Getto style movies? I know, but would like to know if it is right - Eddy Murphy - The PJ's. (for those who does not know does not mean go off and hurl over all your ROLAND equipment, but a literal quote :)))) ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-342-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 15:02:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: Bacon/Claps and Water with FM and Noise Modulation Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:14:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Rob - Have you ever thought about writing a book on the art of sound synthesis? Or maybe a series of essays that might conveniently find themselves inserted into the Virus documentation? With all your experience I'm sure alot of people would benefit. For anyone else who might be interested in something like this check out Phil Macdonald's web site (he's one of the Nova/Supernova programmers) at: http://www.btinternet.com/~p.macdonald/. The voicing portion of his site can be found at http://www.btinternet.com/%7Ep.macdonald/Voicing/Guide/Sounds.htm. Enjoy. JP -----Original Message----- From: Rob Papen To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 5:13 AM Subject: Bacon/Claps and Water with FM and Noise Modulation >Hi list, > >There was a bit of noise on the list, so I tough that it would maybe a good idea to tell the list how 3.0 is going. (I have a beta version for making and adjusting sounds). > >Besides all the great features you did read on the Access webpage I have some details to tell you from a thing I also liked. > >The noise-color and the new FM functions made me make three funny sounds you maybe will find in the new 3.0 > >I did set the noise-color to Pink and used it as source in the FM modulation >of the oscillator (sinus waveform). >The results are: >Claps (like the ones from the 80's) >Bacon (a sound from my kitchen) >Water (a small river here in Holland). > >You may try this also with other synths of course. > >Ps. The phaser is the best I have heard in a synth till now! Also the analog >boost is very cool, especially when you have Dynaudio Acoustics BM-15 speakers (they rule my studio). > >best regards, > >Rob Papen (Infected by a Virus) >___________________________________ >ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >Homepage: www.robpapen.com >E-mail: rob@robpapen.com > >What is new our coming out soon: > >- EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM > >- PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) > >- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) > >- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm > >___________________________________ > >Tel: 00-31 475410188 >Fax: 00-31 475410089 >___________________________________ > > > > > X-From_: access-list-return-343-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 15:23:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:23:01 +0100 From: nearlygod X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Thanks to access (Christoph and others) for their hard work on the virus a-b None of my electronic equipment is developed as far as the virus a is and the virus b will be. It is stable and we could talk to the developers theirselfs, when having problems, and they have an ear for us. I never saw that behavier, from Akai over Emu to Emagic or Clavia. I like to thank you guys for your great work and I will by a virus b soon, because it`s a hell of a synth. THANKS nearlygodX-From_: access-list-return-344-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 15:42:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:41:58 +0100 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Thanks to access (Christoph and others) for their hard work on the virus a-b On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:23:01 +0100 nearlygod wrote: >None of my electronic equipment is developed as far as the virus a is and the virus b will be. >It is stable and we could talk to the developers theirselfs, when having problems, and they have an ear for us. >I never saw that behavier, from Akai over Emu to Emagic or Clavia. > >I like to thank you guys for your great work and I will by a virus b soon, because it`s a hell of a synth. Absolutely right, w.r.t. Access. But you wouldn't seriously put Emagic's vivid participation at the Logic/SoundDiver mailing lists on the same level as Akai (whose user communication is equal to zero)...? ChristianX-From_: access-list-return-345-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 15:53:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:57:07 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Enough is enough. Read this message about the Access-List. On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Moho Disco wrote: >On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jay Vaughan wrote: > >> *DO NOT FLAME ANYONE DIRECTLY ON THE LIST* >> >>This includes name-calling, platform bigotry, and whiney complaints about Access. > >Jay, I can understand the name calling, and even maybe the platform bigotry, but I think whiney complaints about Access have their place here. agreed!X-From_: access-list-return-348-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 17:07:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: A manual question - It might sound stupid... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:05:34 -0600 X-Priority: 3 You probably have a manual from around the time of Virus A version 1.54 The Addendum you also received explains the differences in the B/KB interface, but also describes the Vocoder, and other features of the 2.51 OS. I don't think they have printed a full manual since the one around 1.54. Rick >Hi, everyone. >I have a question, namely: How do you know which MANUAL you are reading? I got a manual with my VIRUS-b and it is different (ever-so-slightly) to the one available on 'the dog' page (Canine). How do I assitane which manual I got with the VIRUS-b? >Then the addendum... I got a addition for kb/b release, but this does not have the same info as the ADDENDUM from the 'dog' webpage. This is becoming >very confusing:)) >To add to the confution, I heard that there is a manual that specifically speaks about the vocoder. Am I supposed to have only 2 or 3 or 4 manuals... > >Ps - Does anyone know where the 'DOG' slang comes from that you see on American Getto style movies? I know, but would like to know if it is right - Eddy Murphy - The PJ's. >(for those who does not know does not mean go off and hurl over all your ROLAND equipment, but a literal quote :)))) ******************************************** >- Aubrey Kloppers >- systems@biblesociety.co.za >- Cape Town, South Africa >- tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) >- fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 >********************************************* X-From_: access-list-return-349-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 17:38:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:36:48 EST Subject: Re: Thanks to access (Christoph and others) for their hard work on the virus ... To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << None of my electronic equipment is developed as far as the virus a is and the virus b will be. >> Not only that but I can honestly say that out of all the gear I have or have played, the Virus is by far my favorite (and its not even the synth I use the most)... Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-350-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 17:40:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:38:34 EST Subject: Re: Thanks to access (Christoph and others) for their hard work on the virus ... To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << But you wouldn't seriously put Emagic's vivid participation at the Logic/SoundDiver mailing lists on the same level as Akai (whose user communication is equal to zero)...? >> NO WAY! Emagic is very helpful. SoundDiver is always being updated, with info from mailing lists, just ask Michael Haydn. Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-352-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 17:54:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:50:04 EST Subject: Re: Digital Lower Registers (was: Virus-Nova) To: access-list@teklab.com hi, I own both a Virus A and a Nova. I am selling my A soon and getting a B. Anyway, about your query, definately get the Virus B. It blows the Nova away in both sound performance and possibilities. Turn off the effects on the Nova and you'll be very dissapointed. Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-354-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 19:39:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Bacon/Claps .... Now Documentation Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:39:15 -0800 X-Priority: 3 I would love to see you do a book too Rob. I'd buy it ! Heck you (Rob) could make it an indepth Virus programming book... it would be sweet. Maybe you could write it and have the Wizoo guys do the rest? Or Access could add it to the manual as a few chapters on deeper programing of the Virus. Yes, Phils website is a nice one. Access: Will there be a manual that pulls together all the various addendums? I see someone else mentioned this on the list today, and I would most certainly like to get one. As a newbie to all this, it's really hard to try and learn something only to find that what your doing isn't working cuz there is new information on it in another manual. Who ever wrote the first 30 pages of the Virus manual, I want to shake your hand ! That is very well written. Again as a newbie, I could follow it easy, and things made sense. It makes the synth VERY friendly. Hats off to you. Kintama -----Original Message----- From: John E. Potter To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 6:02 AM Subject: Re: Bacon/Claps and Water with FM and Noise Modulation >Rob - Have you ever thought about writing a book on the art of sound synthesis? Or maybe a series of essays that might conveniently find themselves inserted into the Virus documentation? > >With all your experience I'm sure alot of people would benefit. > >For anyone else who might be interested in something like this check out Phil Macdonald's web site (he's one of the Nova/Supernova programmers) at: http://www.btinternet.com/~p.macdonald/. The voicing portion of his site can be found at >http://www.btinternet.com/%7Ep.macdonald/Voicing/Guide/Sounds.htm. > >Enjoy. > >JP > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rob Papen >To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 5:13 AM >Subject: Bacon/Claps and Water with FM and Noise Modulation > > >>Hi list, >> >>There was a bit of noise on the list, so I tough that it would maybe a good >>idea to tell the list how 3.0 is going. (I have a beta version for making and adjusting sounds). >> >>Besides all the great features you did read on the Access webpage I have some details to tell you from a thing I also liked. >> >>The noise-color and the new FM functions made me make three funny sounds you maybe will find in the new 3.0 >> >>I did set the noise-color to Pink and used it as source in the FM >modulation >>of the oscillator (sinus waveform). >>The results are: >>Claps (like the ones from the 80's) >>Bacon (a sound from my kitchen) >>Water (a small river here in Holland). >> >>You may try this also with other synths of course. >> >>Ps. The phaser is the best I have heard in a synth till now! Also the >analog >>boost is very cool, especially when you have Dynaudio Acoustics BM-15 speakers (they rule my studio). >> >>best regards, >> >>Rob Papen (Infected by a Virus) >>___________________________________ >>ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >>Homepage: www.robpapen.com >>E-mail: rob@robpapen.com >> >>What is new our coming out soon: >> >>- EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM >> >>- PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) >> >>- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) >> >>- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm >> >>___________________________________ >> >>Tel: 00-31 475410188 >>Fax: 00-31 475410089 >>___________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> > X-From_: access-list-return-355-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 21:30:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:22:48 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Enough is enough. Read this message about the Access-List. At 09:57 AM 11/19/99 -0600, you wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Moho Disco wrote: >On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jay Vaughan wrote: >>*DO NOT FLAME ANYONE DIRECTLY ON THE LIST* This includes name-calling, platform bigotry, and whiney complaints about Access. >Jay, I can understand the name calling, and even maybe the platform bigotry, but I think whiney complaints about Access have their place here. agreed! Complaints about Access: Sure. No problems, we need to hear the complaints. Whiney complaints about Access: No. My definition of Whiney: a complaint without a supporting argument, delivered in such a fashion as to remind the recipient of a 10 year old complaining about having dropped their icecream in the sand. Example: "I think it sucks that Access aren't releasing the Access Helicopter, they really owe it to me..." Example of a good complaint: "Access should release the Access Helicopter. I think that they have a chance on cornerning the Bright Red Helicopter market, given that a lot of new synthesists have expressed an interest in Helicopters on rec.audio.pro. I'd personally pay up to $300 for my own Access Helicopter, as would a lot of other list members I'm sure. It bothers me that Access have decided not to release the Bright Red Helicopter - they are missing out on an opportunity of a lifetime, and realistically I do not see what the economical issue is about this - can someone from Access please comment on why this is not occurring? Thanks." j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-356-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 21:32:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:23:34 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B At 10:50 AM 11/18/99 -0800, you wrote: >>- If you do your synth company, I will be happy to purchase your synth. And after, I will be unhappy about your updates and the product and the product philosophy. And I will ask you: Why didn't you do this, and why don't you do that ... :) >No, I'd get it right the first time. :) this guy looks more and more like an a**hole as time passes... my 'bad karma' mail filter now has a new member... -zs This response is not appropriate. Please refrain from calling anyone an 'a**hole' on this mailing list in the future. This message has *nothing* to do with Access Music, or their products. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-357-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 23:43:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Chris Gentry To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Please unsub me! Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:43:26 -0600 I've tried the instructions on the web page and have e-mailed Jay. No response. Could you please unsub me! ThanksX-From_: access-list-return-358-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 23:47:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:45:15 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com, jay@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B >This response is not appropriate. Please refrain from calling anyone an 'a**hole' on this mailing list in the future. > >This message has *nothing* to do with Access Music, or their products. sorry Jay and everyone else... I had gotten so frustrated, but that's no excuse for name-calling. -zsX-From_: access-list-return-359-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 19 23:59:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:49:33 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Please unsub me! At 04:43 PM 11/19/99 -0600, you wrote: I've tried the instructions on the web page and have e-mailed Jay. No response. Could you please unsub me! Thanks Send mail to access-list-unsubscribe@teklab.com j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-360-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 20 00:50:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Digital Lower Registers (was: Virus-Nova) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:48:17 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:50:04 EST, ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: >in both sound performance and possibilities. Turn off the effects on the Nova and you'll be very dissapointed. What's this obsession with turning off bits of a synth in order to be disappointed? Why not enjoy what it gives you? Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-361-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 20 01:16:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: gatrall@pop.slip.net Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:15:30 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Simon Gatrall Subject: Re: Digital Lower Registers (was: Virus-Nova) On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:50:04 EST, ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: >in both sound performance and possibilities. Turn off the effects on the Nova and you'll be very dissapointed. What's this obsession with turning off bits of a synth in order to be disappointed? Why not enjoy what it gives you? Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.uk It's very simple. In many synths the only thing that makes theme the least bit interesting are the effects. Most synths have substandard effects. Why not spend the money that it took to build in those crummy effects on the sound? It's so easy to buy good external effects these days. The effects on my FS1R are pathetic - I would love to be able to turn them off globally, but there is no such luck. I would prefer to have no effects and better sound generation. Of course in the case of the Virus-B I'm looking forward to both. -s!mon X-From_: access-list-return-362-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 20 09:13:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Marcel Engels" To: , Subject: RE: Digital Lower Registers (was: Virus-Nova) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:13:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal >From: Paul Nagle [mailto:paul@softroom.co.uk] > >>in both sound performance and possibilities. Turn off the >effects on the Nova >>and you'll be very dissapointed. > >What's this obsession with turning off bits of a synth in order to be disappointed? Why not enjoy what it gives you? Exactly! If I turn off the modulation of my Solina then I'm very disappointed too. :-) But it's part of the synth and gives it its own character I guess. Say, aren't the Virus B happy with the extra fxs and phaser which it has now??? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nlX-From_: access-list-return-363-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 20 18:10:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Digital Lower Registers (was: Virus-Nova) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:09:16 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:15:30 -0800, Simon Gatrall wrote: >It's very simple. In many synths the only thing that makes theme the least bit interesting are the effects. Most synths have substandard effects. Why not spend the money that it took to build in those crummy effects on the sound? It's so easy to buy good external I think I understand what you mean, but what is an effect? Something that affects the sound right? In a DSP-based synth, the effects are code, just the same as LFOs, filters, vocoder, ring modulation, filter distortion..... I guess my point is that with a DSP instrument, each programmer decides how to divide their resources, at what point in the audio chain to put things. In a virtual synth, the only thing seperating effects from the main synth engine is their position in the audio chain. Right? And synths themselves have always used "effects" as part of their character, whether it be the EMS Spring reverb, the Moog filter, the classic Juno chorus, the DW8000 delay etc. You might as well say "turn off that second Virus filter cos it makes it sound better than the Nord Lead". Just my thoughts though, don't fret anyone. ;-) Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-364-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 20 20:18:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SLAK305@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:17:18 EST Subject: virus instrument definitions To: access-list@teklab.com doesw anyone have the instrument definitions for cakewalk for the virus b i could use them thanks if possibleX-From_: access-list-return-365-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 20 21:25:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Yearn" To: "Virus-Mailing-Liste" Subject: Musicians wanted Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:28:37 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi everybody, If you want more than just putting your songs on some mp3-site in the internet, we might be in the position to give you the opportunity to make your stuff be seen by all German people ON TV !!! Make your VIRUS be heard !!! If you want more info please mail: Musac@gmx.de Joern Kittlitz - Hypnotic Television - X-From_: access-list-return-367-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 21 07:59:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 03:07:32 +0000 From: Jason Simmons To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: off beat question Cy, I've owned my AKAI S3000xl for about a year now, and I just love it. I got it for about $1500, maxed out RAM included. I also highly recommend the optional EB-16 Effects board, for another $300 or so.... If you have any more questions about the sampler freel free to email me directly :) Cheers, EX|EL Cyngus Cyngus wrote: >yes i know what i am about to ask has NOTHING to do with access or the virus.. hell has nothing to do with synths.... bbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttt maby you guys can help.. > >for while now i have been thinkign about buying the akai s3000xl.. acutally i was planning on buying one very shortly.... but lately i havebeen reading about the emu esi models... the esi4000 to be specific... i was wondering if anyone has used either of these samplers... or used both of them... what would u recomend buying? i believe the prices of each unit are pretty similar... *i think*... > >thanks.. >Cyngus >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-366-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 21 05:43:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:43:08 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: off beat question To: access-list@teklab.com yes i know what i am about to ask has NOTHING to do with access or the virus.. hell has nothing to do with synths.... bbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttt maby you guys can help.. for while now i have been thinkign about buying the akai s3000xl.. acutally i was planning on buying one very shortly.... but lately i havebeen reading about the emu esi models... the esi4000 to be specific... i was wondering if anyone has used either of these samplers... or used both of them... what would u recomend buying? i believe the prices of each unit are pretty similar... *i think*... thanks.. Cyngus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-368-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 21 14:51:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: akyuz@mimoza.netas.com.tr Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:54:01 +0200 From: Tugrul Akyuz Organization: NETAS To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: input on/off Hi, I want to control the input signal (on off) by midi note on/off. That can be possible in VIRUS's signal routing system? Thanks Tugrul AkyuzX-From_: access-list-return-369-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 21 18:16:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:14:45 EST Subject: Re: Musicians wanted To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 11/20/1999 3:24:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kittlitz@Stud-Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE writes: << Hi everybody, If you want more than just putting your songs on some mp3-site in the internet, we might be in the position to give you the opportunity to make your stuff be seen by all German people ON TV !!! Make your VIRUS be heard !!! If you want more info please mail: Musac@gmx.de >>X-From_: access-list-return-370-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 21 18:27:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:25:52 EST Subject: Re: input on/off To: access-list@teklab.com Yes, set the Part using the input to "Input: Dynamic". MIDI On notes will open the input, and will be shut off with MIDI Off notes when received on that particular Part's MIDI channel. Usefull for "gate" effects.X-From_: access-list-return-371-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 21 21:00:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Yearn" To: "Virus-Mailing-Liste" Subject: HypnoticTelevision Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:04:31 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hypnotic Television What we forgot: This is not only for people who own a VIRUS! Tell your friends about us - We want EVERYBODY to be heard !!! Ich hoffe, es stšrt niemanden, dass wir hier posten. Aber ich bin nun mal stolzer Besitzer dieses geilen GerŠts (In love with a VIRUS =). Ich denke jeder hier verdient es, gehšrt zu werden! Hypnotic Television Kittlitz/Moeller Musac@gmx.de Damaschkeweg 1 35039 Marburg X-From_: access-list-return-372-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 01:16:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:14:10 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi Aubrey, I'm pretty much a mister. Cheers anyway, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-373-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 01:41:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Interruption to regular programming Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:39:08 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi everybody, Sorry for recent offensive discussion. Let us have no more comments of 'my platform is better than yours' style. And now back to regular programming. ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-374-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 09:34:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Thomas Hendriksen To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: off beat question Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:32:35 +0100 Hi guys, I've just got a brand new AKAI S5000..... and I have to say it is a real motherf..... sampler, the best thing about the beast is that it is capable of reading wavefiles, and ofcourse it can read MS-FAT filesystem, import all AKAI formats plus a lot of other things I haven't figured out yet, but I was told that the WAVE format will be standard in the future, that's why I didn't buy the S3000XL model. I found a pretty weird bug in the sampler though, I have installed a HD in it too..... it's a QUANTUM FIREBALL 4.3S. I upgraded the OS from 1.21 to 1.3 and found out that it could not find the HD anymore, it keep saying "searching for devices", so that's weird... arghhhh The sampler will load and find all devices if I boot from the OS1.3 Floppy though, but it is pretty annoying to boot from a floppy all the time, does anyone know about this bug too? And is there anyone who has found a solution for it. Btw although this is not a sample discussion list i bet almost anyone here got one, come on guys let's hear if you can live without a sampler... hehe... I'll say that a sampler is almost standard in any studio today, my Virus & Akai S5000 is what I want to take with me into the grave.... too damn bad for my girlfriend :o) Ahhhh by the way OS 1.3 can read the EMU sampler format :o) cheers to AKAI. Peace & Light /MrG! -----Original Message----- From: Jason Simmons [mailto:ssimmons@mediaone.net] Sent: 21. november 1999 04:08 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: off beat question Cy, I've owned my AKAI S3000xl for about a year now, and I just love it. I got it for about $1500, maxed out RAM included. I also highly recommend the optional EB-16 Effects board, for another $300 or so.... If you have any more questions about the sampler freel free to email me directly :) Cheers, EX|EL Cyngus Cyngus wrote: >yes i know what i am about to ask has NOTHING to do with access or the virus.. hell has nothing to do with synths.... bbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttt maby you guys can help.. > >for while now i have been thinkign about buying the akai s3000xl.. acutally i was planning on buying one very shortly.... but lately i havebeen reading about the emu esi models... the esi4000 to be specific... i was wondering if anyone has used either of these samplers... or used both of them... what would u recomend buying? i believe the prices of each unit are pretty similar... *i think*... > >thanks.. >Cyngus >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-375-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 12:26:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: 22 Nov 1999 11:23:35 -0000 From: Snorre Vestvold Ruch To: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: Snorre Vestvold Ruch User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no X-Originating-IP: 158.38.87.141 Subject: Esi4000 was: off beat question lately i havebeen reading about >the emu esi models... the esi4000 to be specific...i was wondering if anyone has used either of these samplers... or used both of them... what would u recomend buying? i believe the prices of each unit are pretty similar... *i think*... > >thanks.. >Cyngus Hi, Cyngus! I bought my Esi4000 just some weeks ago,... and have to say I'm a little disappointed! It sounds good, and I think some of it's filters are ok too, BUT: it's a pain i.t.a. to program, and I feel it lacks some features. If you wish to work it from a computer, forget it! Emu will not ever give programmers the info that is needed to access the mind of the esi. You can send samples and loop points trough midi or preferably scsi from your mac or pc... nothing else. I'm not too familiar with it yet, so someone please arrest me if I'm wrong! I'm on an esi-list at One List, and the other subscribers seems a little pissed at Emu. Then again, it's not the most expensive machine around... I guess you have to compare and see what you needs are! Krupp X-From_: access-list-return-384-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 02:27:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "D_Tikovoi" To: Subject: Re: off beat question Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:26:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Hi Thomas, I did install the 1.3 and don't have any problem with it seeing my internal HD nor my external HD + CDrom. What I suggest you do is turn off your sampler, insert the OS 1.3 disk, turn on your sampler as it will re-install the OS, then imediately after Save it to Flash. 'hope this help Dimitri -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Hendriksen To: 'access-list@teklab.com' Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 8:34 AM Subject: RE: off beat question >Hi guys, > >I've just got a brand new AKAI S5000..... and I have to say it is a real motherf..... sampler, the best thing about the beast is that it is capable of reading wavefiles, and ofcourse it can read MS-FAT filesystem, import all >AKAI formats plus a lot of other things I haven't figured out yet, but I was >told that the WAVE format will be standard in the future, that's why I didn't buy the S3000XL model. > >I found a pretty weird bug in the sampler though, I have installed a HD in it too..... it's a QUANTUM FIREBALL 4.3S. I upgraded the OS from 1.21 to 1.3 >and found out that it could not find the HD anymore, it keep saying "searching for devices", so that's weird... arghhhh > >The sampler will load and find all devices if I boot from the OS1.3 Floppy though, but it is pretty annoying to boot from a floppy all the time, does anyone know about this bug too? And is there anyone who has found a solution >for it. > >Btw although this is not a sample discussion list i bet almost anyone here got one, come on guys let's hear if you can live without a sampler... hehe... I'll say that a sampler is almost standard in any studio today, my Virus & Akai S5000 is what I want to take with me into the grave.... too damn bad for my girlfriend :o) > >Ahhhh by the way OS 1.3 can read the EMU sampler format :o) cheers to AKAI. > > > >Peace & Light > > >/MrG! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jason Simmons [mailto:ssimmons@mediaone.net] Sent: 21. november 1999 04:08 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: off beat question > > >Cy, > >I've owned my AKAI S3000xl for about a year now, and I just love it. I got it for about $1500, maxed out RAM included. I also highly recommend the optional EB-16 Effects board, for another $300 or so.... If you have any more questions about the sampler freel free to email me directly :) > >Cheers, >EX|EL > > >Cyngus Cyngus wrote: > >>yes i know what i am about to ask has NOTHING to do with access or the virus.. hell has nothing to do with synths.... bbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttt maby you guys can help.. >> >>for while now i have been thinkign about buying the akai s3000xl.. acutally i was planning on buying one very shortly.... but lately i havebeen reading about the emu esi models... the esi4000 to be specific... i was wondering if anyone has used either of these samplers... or used both of them... what would u recomend buying? i believe the prices of each unit are pretty similar... *i think*... >> >>thanks.. >>Cyngus >>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > X-From_: access-list-return-376-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 16:27:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:18:54 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: compliments to Zack Hi! >GdEp z - A very expressive EP This is one of the best not-typical-virus patches I've played sofar! It's really good fun to play this EP patch... bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298X-From_: access-list-return-377-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 17:47:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:38:13 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: Access Subject: Life can be beautiful... Hi, Life can be beautiful! My Virus Keyboard just arrived and tonight there's a demo of the Jomox Sunsyn... :) Aaaahhh.... I love life! :) Cheers, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-378-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 18:09:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Life can be beautiful... Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:04:41 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Even thought the answer is probably no - Did your Virus KB come with OS version 3.0? Rick >Hi, > >Life can be beautiful! My Virus Keyboard just arrived and tonight there's a demo of the Jomox Sunsyn... :) Aaaahhh.... I love life! :) > >Cheers, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com X-From_: access-list-return-379-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 18:28:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:27:11 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Life can be beautiful... Hi Rick, >Even thought the answer is probably no - Did your Virus KB come with OS version 3.0? Nope, 2.52 .... and after playing around with it for half an hour, I found a bug... the display started acting weird. Don't know how I did it, it just happened. I'll report it if I can reproduce this bug. Hmmm... I have a lot of catching up to do: this OS has developed a LOT! Good work Christoph & the entire Access team! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-380-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 19:24:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [24.130.44.97] From: "nicholas bennison" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: virus & Cubase Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:22:39 PST Hello - I just bought a virus and am having trouble syncing it to the midi clock of Cubase. If anyone can help me with the procedure I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Nicholas. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-381-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 19:33:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:32:11 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: compliments to Zack >>GdEp z - A very expressive EP > >This is one of the best not-typical-virus patches I've played sofar! It's really good fun to play this EP patch... thanks Jasper! This is a result of being *so* tired of arpeggiated 303 clones with saturation and no velocity, modulation, or aftertouch programming. My new game is to play "When is a Virus not a Virus". Look for more sounds in the coming days... -zsX-From_: access-list-return-382-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 19:59:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:53:03 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: RE: off beat question This sort of mail is more appropriate for either the music-bar, or the Akai user mailing list. Its got little to do with Access and/or their products... The music-bar can be subscribed to from this web page: http://www.teklab.com/Internet.html As for the Akai user mailing list - I have no idea. If someone knows, please email him privately. j. At 09:32 AM 11/22/99 +0100, you wrote: Hi guys, I've just got a brand new AKAI S5000..... and I have to say it is a real motherf..... sampler, the best thing about the beast is that it is capable of reading wavefiles, and ofcourse it can read MS-FAT filesystem, import all AKAI formats plus a lot of other things I haven't figured out yet, but I was told that the WAVE format will be standard in the future, that's why I didn't buy the S3000XL model. I found a pretty weird bug in the sampler though, I have installed a HD in it too..... it's a QUANTUM FIREBALL 4.3S. I upgraded the OS from 1.21 to 1.3 and found out that it could not find the HD anymore, it keep saying "searching for devices", so that's weird... arghhhh The sampler will load and find all devices if I boot from the OS1.3 Floppy though, but it is pretty annoying to boot from a floppy all the time, does anyone know about this bug too? And is there anyone who has found a solution for it. Btw although this is not a sample discussion list i bet almost anyone here got one, come on guys let's hear if you can live without a sampler... hehe... I'll say that a sampler is almost standard in any studio today, my Virus & Akai S5000 is what I want to take with me into the grave.... too damn bad for my girlfriend :o) Ahhhh by the way OS 1.3 can read the EMU sampler format :o) cheers to AKAI. Peace & Light /MrG! -----Original Message----- From: Jason Simmons [mailto:ssimmons@mediaone.net] Sent: 21. november 1999 04:08 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: off beat question Cy, I've owned my AKAI S3000xl for about a year now, and I just love it. I got it for about $1500, maxed out RAM included. I also highly recommend the optional EB-16 Effects board, for another $300 or so.... If you have any more questions about the sampler freel free to email me directly :) Cheers, EX|EL Cyngus Cyngus wrote: >yes i know what i am about to ask has NOTHING to do with access or the virus.. hell has nothing to do with synths.... bbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttt maby you guys can help.. > >for while now i have been thinkign about buying the akai s3000xl.. acutally i was planning on buying one very shortly.... but lately i havebeen reading about the emu esi models... the esi4000 to be specific... i was wondering if anyone has used either of these samplers... or used both of them... what would u recomend buying? i believe the prices of each unit are pretty similar... *i think*... > >thanks.. >Cyngus >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-383-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 22 22:49:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:49:02 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: Access , Christoph Kemper Subject: Feature Request + ideas X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Hi, After fooling around with the Virus for some hours (and missing the Sunsyn presentation because my internet connection is too slow :-(, I already have some wishes for new features: * In Global - System menu, I'd like to have a feature to override the Arpeggiator settings of patches: I've been going through all the preset patches and I it's confusing that some patches had arpeggiators and others didn't have arpeggiators switched on. A switch in the General System menu to override the arp on/off settings of the patches would be the perfect solution! * Fully programmable arpeggiators! (maybe small step-sequencer ;-)? OS 3.5 maybe? Or 4.0? :-) * One that would be great when going on-stage: full lock!!!!! I've had problems with people who were fooling around with our synths backstage when they were alone with our equipment. To prevent others from doing this, some sort of full lock would be very nice. When locked, they can't enter the operating system of the synth. To unlock it, you have to push several keys (user definable of course, otherwise people might know it) in a given order (or at the same time?). (example: the activation code (PIN) of a cellular phone). * Shortcuts!!!! Combinations of buttons to toggle some features that can be used on live performances: toggling arp on/off would be the one that comes to mind right now. Most of these ideas are small things that can make a big difference under some circumstances! Christoph, I hope you can do something with these ideas... That's it for tonight. ;-) I'll finish this mail so I can try out some more things. Verrrrry nice synth! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-385-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 02:48:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:47:25 -0500 (EST) From: nitram To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: free virus sounds I'm posting some sounds I made for everyone since I just sold my Virus. Hope you enjoy them. http://www.bioroid.com/virus/X-From_: access-list-return-386-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 07:43:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Gabe" To: Subject: Internal processing of Virus A compared to b? Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:40:53 -0500 X-Priority: 3 The Virus B runs at 24 bit internally, what doesÊthe Virus A run at? (20 or 16?) Anyone know this? I can't find it in the Virus's manual. -Gabe X-From_: access-list-return-387-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 09:22:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:52:20 +0330 (GMT+03:30) From: dimi@dds.nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Access helicoper (Re: Enough is enough. Read this message about the Access-List.) WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Say, that's a good idea! A nice, warm sounding helicopter with knobs on so you can tweak yourself a way through the sky. Of course it should have them typical wooden sides to put you foot on when stepping in _and_ out. Oh boy, how great an access-helicopter would be! Dimitri. >"Access should release the Access Helicopter. I think that they have a >chance on cornerning the Bright Red Helicopter market, given that a lot of >new synthesists have expressed an interest in Helicopters on >rec.audio.pro. I'd personally pay up to $300 for my own Access Helicopter, >as would a lot of other list members I'm sure. It bothers me that Access >have decided not to release the Bright Red Helicopter - they are missing >out on an opportunity of a lifetime, and realistically I do not see what >the economical issue is about this - can someone from Access please comment >on why this is not occurring? Thanks." > > >j. > > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^X-From_: access-list-return-388-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 14:28:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Generator" To: Subject: A->B exchange is REALITY!!!! Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:25:25 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi all! In the new Music Store catalog is a VIRUS Exchange. They take Your old VIRUS A + 1590,-DEM and then give You the VIRUS B. More info on http://www.musicstorekoeln.de/ Envelope Genrator http://www.space.cz/home/envelopeX-From_: access-list-return-390-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 16:21:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:06:30 +0100 From: Kanou Reply-To: Kanou X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Esi4000 was: off beat question hallolo well if you re not the richest guy in the world i can say that the esi-4000 is the best sampler you can get under 1000 $ ! it got a REAL fat sound => deep basses! and lots of other nice features. ok the best sampler is one of the big new ultras from emu. so the esi is very easy to handle. much more than that fuckin' s3000xl! the only negative thing is that you do not have got a graphical-display! HOWEVER the scsi function works wonderful and it s realy nice to cut, paste, trim, normalize, ... your sample on your mac or pc! no problems yet! SO BUY IT! kanouX-From_: access-list-return-391-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 16:27:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:09:01 +0100 From: Kanou Reply-To: Kanou X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Gabe Subject: Re: Internal processing of Virus A compared to b? it works with 20 bit! kanouX-From_: access-list-return-389-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 16:11:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: thommenk@muenster.de Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:10:25 +0100 From: Kaspar Thommen To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: A->B exchange is REALITY!!!! Hi, are you really going to pay 1590 DM ???? Lets calculate: Selling Virus A: ~1800 DM. Buying a Virus B: ~2900 DM => 1100 DM "update price". Kaspar >Hi all! >In the new Music Store catalog is a VIRUS Exchange. They take Your old VIRUS A + 1590,-DEM and then give You the VIRUS B.X-From_: access-list-return-392-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 18:08:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: thommenk@muenster.de Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:07:09 +0100 From: Kaspar Thommen To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Internal processing of Virus A compared to b? Hi Kanou, >it works with 20 bit! I don't thinks thats true, because of two reasons: - I never heared of a DSP working with 20 bits. - The "new" Motorola DSP in the Virus B ist architecturally the same as the one used in the Virus A, but faster. Maybe you meant the D/A-Converters when talking about 20 bits? KasparX-From_: access-list-return-393-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 20:04:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:05:56 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: free virus sounds Hi! >I'm posting some sounds I made for everyone since I just sold my Virus. Hope you enjoy them. >http://www.bioroid.com/virus/ This doesn't seem to be working i'm afraid... bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298X-From_: access-list-return-394-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 20:17:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:14:40 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus & Cubase >Hello - I just bought a virus and am having trouble syncing it to the midi clock of Cubase. If anyone can help me with the procedure I'd greatly appreciate it. I use Cubase VST 3.55 on Windows with my MIDI setup, so depending on your version/platform, things may be a bit different. What you need to do is go into the 'MIDI Setup' menu item (in the menu with all the MIDI stuff). There is a drop-down list under 'MIDI Clock' -- pull that down and pick the MIDI OUT port that your Virus is connected to. When you press Play or Record in Cubase, the MIDI Clock data is sent thru that MIDI port. Now you need to set up your Virus to respond to MIDI clock. If it doesn't sync right up (try playing an Arpeggiated patch), turn it off and hold down both LFO Shape buttons while you turn it on. This does a 'soft reset', which should enable MIDI Clock sync. hope that helps, zsX-From_: access-list-return-395-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 23 21:56:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:42:42 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Esi4000 was: off beat question Cc: music-bar@teklab.com At 04:06 PM 11/23/99 +0100, you wrote: hallolo if you re not the richest guy in the world i can say that the esi-4000 is the best sampler you can get under 1000 $ ! I'd say the Yamaha A3000 is the best sampler you can get under $1000. I predict that prices on the A3000 are going to go plummeting down very shortly... Anyway, this is offtopic for access-list. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-396-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 02:19:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "cybie" To: Subject: RE: free virus sounds Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:21:01 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal the site is working just my provider was down for almost a day recently.. >-----Original Message----- >From: Jasper de Jong [mailto:jsdejong@wxs.nl] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 2:06 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: free virus sounds > > >Hi! > >>I'm posting some sounds I made for everyone since I just sold my Virus. Hope you enjoy them. >>http://www.bioroid.com/virus/ > >This doesn't seem to be working i'm afraid... > >bye >jasper >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 X-From_: access-list-return-397-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 05:03:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 04:36:20 +0100 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus & Cubase Hi Nicholas. nicholas bennison schrieb: > >Hello - I just bought a virus and am having trouble syncing it to the midi clock of Cubase. If anyone can help me with the procedure I'd greatly appreciate it. Enable "send midi clock" in cubase and set the parameters u need to be syced in the Virus. carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://Tao7.tripod.com Better (and newer) mp3-examples of my music at: http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.html My music page at BeSonic: http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.htmlX-From_: access-list-return-398-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 08:17:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: NOW: Virus-b/Kb O/S Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:52:27 +0200 X-Priority: 1 >>Even thought the answer is probably no - Did your Virus KB come with OS version 3.0? > >Nope, 2.52 .... and after playing around with it for half an hour, I found a bug... the display started acting weird. Don't know how I did it, it just >happened. I'll report it if I can reproduce this bug. Ok, I have a question... Please can someone with the latest O/S on the VIRUS-b/Kb please dump it down and post it to me (Pref in a MIDI file)? I have just purchased a VIRUS-b and found to my dismay that the SYSEX packets changed from the VIRUS-a to the VIRUS-b. My O/S release is 2.51 (I would like to get access to 2.52) but can not load 2.52 (as posted by ACCESS) because the 2.52 is VIRUS-a specific. You can see this if you use your VIRUS-b/Kb release to dump the O/S. The bit (that normally would be the ID: 00h-10h) on the VIRUS-b has been changed to 51 (Not 50 as per the 2.52 O/S release available on the ACCESS/canine WWW site) and thus gives you a 'CHECKSUM FAILURE' when trying to dump any of the VIRUS-a O/S into the system. Please could someone from ACCESS post on the website that there IS a difference between the O/S on the VIRUS-a and the VIRUS-b and that it is not possable to dump the O/S for the VIRUS-a onto the VIRUS-b? I have spent one weekend and 2 workdays trying to get to someone who could help me dump the latest O/S into my VIRUS-b. By posting a message on the ACCESS WWW, I could have saved myself 4 days worth of hassles... (Just my 10c) cyber7X-From_: access-list-return-399-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 08:18:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Feature Request Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:56:35 +0200 X-Priority: 3 I have a request, and I think it is a good one. In the little display where the 'c' gets displayed when the MIDI SYNC is recieved by the VIRUS, please could the developers add a 'A' when the ARPREGGIATOR is active? It will make it so much nicer to change to a patch and know if the ARP section is active or inactive. Just a suggestion. Thanks cyber7X-From_: access-list-return-400-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 13:57:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Do anyone here post... Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:05 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Please could you tell me, does anyone here post MIDI files? I would like to post a midi file of a song I have a problem with and don't quite know how to do it, if it is excepted to post. ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-401-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 17:59:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: John Potter To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Weird Spacey Sounds Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:54:58 -0500 I've got a question for all of you... I've been considering either the Novation Nova and the Virus over the next couple of months. My current setup synthwise is a Roland JP8K and a Quasimidi QM309 (primarily for the drums). My interests are, oddly, in hip hop and weird spacey textural soundscapes (think Brian Eno). I think I've pretty well got the hiphop side covered but the more ambient side is where I feel my gear sometimes fails me. I've got a chance to check out the presets on both machines (haven't had an opportunity to get much deeper). Judging by that alone - the Virus seems to be a harder more dance oriented synth while the Nova seems lean more in the atmospheric direction. Oh, I've only been able to check out the Virus A - not the B. I guess my question is - is anyone using their Virus for moody atmospheric music? The Nova seems to use its effects to come up w/ alot of that and I was hoping w/ the announcement of the Virus OS3.0 and the new effects the Virus would catch up to the Nova in this regard (again - I'm only judging based on presets). The fact that this very newsgroup exists and is active as well as the responsiveness/availability of Access is not lost on me. Given this support I really want to lean in the Virus direction but I also want to get something that meets my needs. What do you think? Thanks, JohnX-From_: access-list-return-402-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 18:18:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:13:59 EST Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds To: access-list@teklab.com << Given this support I really want to lean in the Virus direction but I also want to get something that meets my needs. What do you think? >> Microwave XT...X-From_: access-list-return-403-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 18:53:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:51:13 -0800 X-Priority: 3 I was seriously considering a Novation machine but the Virus 3.0 software sounds like it will prevent me from doing that with the new features and polyphony. I really didnt' want to leave the virus anyway, because Access really is a company that listens to the users and I want to support that as long as I can (til something that suits me better and I can't resist comes along). For your needs you might want to look into the Quasimidi Polymorph too. I too had looked into it for some time but one call to the company turned me off entirely. While I really love the sound of the product and what it claims to do (I hadn't played hands on with it but did lots of research, and downloaded any MP3 I could find), I was so upset about Quasimidi's attitude. I said "so I've looked all over for a user community like mailing list but I haven't found any".. US rep said "I can show you to the Quasimidi web site." "no I'm looking for a place that Quasimidi listens to what the users want in the next update, and where users can problem solve and encourage each other" I said. So he says.. and this was where the red flag goes up in my mind... "we test our product for 2 year with professionals like Klaus Schultz(sp), and they are finished products when they ship".. I said "I'm on the Access Virus list and that is a company that listens to the users and cares about what they want, I'm not buying your Polymorph as a finished product, I'm buying into a company... I don't see that I can do that with Quasimidi." They don't want there products sold thru dealers anymore becuase Quasimidi doesn't support a return policy he told me, and dealers would get returns back with presets messed up and not fix that, then sell it to another person with messed up OS or presets... then he blames the dealers for this when infact it's really Quasimidi's own problem for not taking returns in. I thought that company was the most poorly run thing I had ever heard off. And vowed I would not buy into it. So take all that for the data it's worth.. remove my emotion, cuz clearly I think they are messed up. But the Polymorph does sound really good in the classic synth sense, and might be something you want. I have a friend that has tons of gear and can't afford a new virus as a result of all those other purchases, so I'm selling my virus to him for dirt cheap when I get my 3.0 Virus B or kB. He totally sees the support I get in the massive updates and sees the manual and the OS (he sets my gear up when I am lost) and says constantly things like "this is a company that cares", "these guys know there shit", "I want one" "they even write a usable manual" etc. In my opinion the SuperNova is a VERY similar machine in sound to the Virus. As far as if you compare lots of machines these two are very close compared to others. But I checked into how Novation supports there people and it seems ok, but some of the OS updates I was reading about and thought "why wasn't this fixed in earlier or original release?"... they are not on the same level as Access for support in my opion as an outsider looking at them. If you want wacky weird evolving pads look into a Kawai K5000 based system they are cheap with wonderful keys. But it's not a machine for doing classic synths like the Polymorph. it's purely for sounds you never heard before. I think it sounds very similar to the Yamaha FS1R which still sells new in rack format but not sure it's a good or if it's better than K5000 over all. Sorry for the long winded post. Kintama -----Original Message----- From: John Potter To: 'access-list@teklab.com' Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:12 AM Subject: Weird Spacey Sounds > >I've got a question for all of you... I've been considering either the Novation Nova and the Virus over the next couple of months. My current setup synthwise is a Roland JP8K and a Quasimidi QM309 (primarily for the drums). My interests are, oddly, in hip hop and weird spacey textural soundscapes (think Brian Eno). I think I've pretty well got the hiphop side >covered but the more ambient side is where I feel my gear sometimes fails me. > >I've got a chance to check out the presets on both machines (haven't had an opportunity to get much deeper). Judging by that alone - the Virus seems to >be a harder more dance oriented synth while the Nova seems lean more in the atmospheric direction. Oh, I've only been able to check out the Virus A - not the B. I guess my question is - is anyone using their Virus for moody atmospheric music? The Nova seems to use its effects to come up w/ alot of that and I was hoping w/ the announcement of the Virus OS3.0 and the new effects the Virus would catch up to the Nova in this regard (again - I'm only judging based on presets). > >The fact that this very newsgroup exists and is active as well as the responsiveness/availability of Access is not lost on me. Given this support >I really want to lean in the Virus direction but I also want to get something that meets my needs. > >What do you think? > >Thanks, > >John > > X-From_: access-list-return-407-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 20:28:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:15:27 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: NOW: Virus-b/Kb O/S At 8:52 AM +0200 on 24.11.1999 Aubrey Kloppers wrote: My O/S release is 2.51 (I would like to get access to 2.52) but can not load 2.52 (as posted by ACCESS) because the 2.52 is VIRUS-a specific. You can see this if you use your VIRUS-b/Kb release to dump the O/S. The bit (that normally would be the ID: 00h-10h) on the VIRUS-b has been changed to 51 (Not 50 as per the 2.52 O/S release available on the ACCESS/canine WWW site) and thus gives you a 'CHECKSUM FAILURE' when trying to dump any of the VIRUS-a O/S into the system. Please could someone from ACCESS post on the website that there IS a difference between the O/S on the VIRUS-a and the VIRUS-b and that it is not possable to dump the O/S for the VIRUS-a onto the VIRUS-b? I have spent one weekend and 2 workdays trying to get to someone who could help me dump the latest O/S into my VIRUS-b. By posting a message on the ACCESS WWW, I could have saved myself 4 days worth of hassles... (Just my 10c) cyber7 You are right, this needs to be mentioned on the Access Page (Frank, are you listening?). It is mentioned on my page though...;-) 2.51 is the current OS for the Virus b as far as I know and the next version will be 3.0, I don't think there will be a 2.52 for the Virus b/kb, but I may be wrong on this one. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-408-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 20:31:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:16:41 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Do anyone here post... At 2:55 PM +0200 on 24.11.1999 Aubrey Kloppers wrote: Please could you tell me, does anyone here post MIDI files? I would like to post a midi file of a song I have a problem with and don't quite know how to do it, if it is excepted to post. No, we don't post midi files on this list, except for one exception: sound patches. We all outvoted Paul Nagle who was all up against it and just did it to get everyone started on programming great sounds....;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-404-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 19:24:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: DBDroid@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:22:52 EST Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds To: access-list@teklab.com my virus will make some sweet atmospherics, it can create so many beautiful sounds, then if you want just turn a few knobs and you've got some of the scariest sounds you've ever heard! The versatility and ease of use are # 1 Love my Virus ~ I think we need bumper stickers ; ) Android X-From_: access-list-return-405-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 19:29:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds To: access-list@teklab.com virus can be used for just about anything =) thas why i love it so much... you also might want to look into the waldorf synths... the microwave xt is a very nice synth .. VERY nice=) it has many crazy sounds on it that can be made into even stranger sounds.. and i have heard many great sounding moody atmospheric tracks made with it.... i belive thar is a demo song on waldorfs site that is like that... might wanna check that out.. Cyngus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-406-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 19:41:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:39:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds CC: access-list@teklab.com You're right in reference to Quasimidi. At least here in the States it is a very poorly run organization. I happened to meet the US sales rep head and you get the impression he runs this thing out of the back of his van. You can only buy direct through him. Ultra-cheezy - I would never buy one under those conditions. -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds Author: Non-HP-kintama (kintama@jps.net) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 11/24/99 9:51 AM I was seriously considering a Novation machine but the Virus 3.0 software sounds like it will prevent me from doing that with the new features and polyphony. I really didnt' want to leave the virus anyway, because Access really is a company that listens to the users and I want to support that as long as I can (til something that suits me better and I can't resist comes along). For your needs you might want to look into the Quasimidi Polymorph too. I too had looked into it for some time but one call to the company turned me off entirely. While I really love the sound of the product and what it claims to do (I hadn't played hands on with it but did lots of research, and downloaded any MP3 I could find), I was so upset about Quasimidi's attitude. I said "so I've looked all over for a user community like mailing list but I haven't found any".. US rep said "I can show you to the Quasimidi web site." "no I'm looking for a place that Quasimidi listens to what the users want in the next update, and where users can problem solve and encourage each other" I said. So he says.. and this was where the red flag goes up in my mind... "we test our product for 2 year with professionals like Klaus Schultz(sp), and they are finished products when they ship".. I said "I'm on the Access Virus list and that is a company that listens to the users and cares about what they want, I'm not buying your Polymorph as a finished product, I'm buying into a company... I don't see that I can do that with Quasimidi." They don't want there products sold thru dealers anymore becuase Quasimidi doesn't support a return policy he told me, and dealers would get returns back with presets messed up and not fix that, then sell it to another person with messed up OS or presets... then he blames the dealers for this when infact it's really Quasimidi's own problem for not taking returns in. I thought that company was the most poorly run thing I had ever heard off. And vowed I would not buy into it. So take all that for the data it's worth.. remove my emotion, cuz clearly I think they are messed up. But the Polymorph does sound really good in the classic synth sense, and might be something you want. I have a friend that has tons of gear and can't afford a new virus as a result of all those other purchases, so I'm selling my virus to him for dirt cheap when I get my 3.0 Virus B or kB. He totally sees the support I get in the massive updates and sees the manual and the OS (he sets my gear up when I am lost) and says constantly things like "this is a company that cares", "these guys know there shit", "I want one" "they even write a usable manual" etc. In my opinion the SuperNova is a VERY similar machine in sound to the Virus. As far as if you compare lots of machines these two are very close compared to others. But I checked into how Novation supports there people and it seems ok, but some of the OS updates I was reading about and thought "why wasn't this fixed in earlier or original release?"... they are not on the same level as Access for support in my opion as an outsider looking at them. If you want wacky weird evolving pads look into a Kawai K5000 based system they are cheap with wonderful keys. But it's not a machine for doing classic synths like the Polymorph. it's purely for sounds you never heard before. I think it sounds very similar to the Yamaha FS1R which still sells new in rack format but not sure it's a good or if it's better than K5000 over all. Sorry for the long winded post. Kintama -----Original Message----- From: John Potter To: 'access-list@teklab.com' Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:12 AM Subject: Weird Spacey Sounds > >I've got a question for all of you... I've been considering either the Novation Nova and the Virus over the next couple of months. My current setup synthwise is a Roland JP8K and a Quasimidi QM309 (primarily for the drums). My interests are, oddly, in hip hop and weird spacey textural soundscapes (think Brian Eno). I think I've pretty well got the hiphop side >covered but the more ambient side is where I feel my gear sometimes fails me. > >I've got a chance to check out the presets on both machines (haven't had an opportunity to get much deeper). Judging by that alone - the Virus seems to >be a harder more dance oriented synth while the Nova seems lean more in the atmospheric direction. Oh, I've only been able to check out the Virus A - not the B. I guess my question is - is anyone using their Virus for moody atmospheric music? The Nova seems to use its effects to come up w/ alot of that and I was hoping w/ the announcement of the Virus OS3.0 and the new effects the Virus would catch up to the Nova in this regard (again - I'm only judging based on presets). > >The fact that this very newsgroup exists and is active as well as the responsiveness/availability of Access is not lost on me. Given this support >I really want to lean in the Virus direction but I also want to get something that meets my needs. > >What do you think? > >Thanks, > >John > > X-From_: access-list-return-409-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 20:35:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:35:58 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Yeah get this... I told him that since they arn't in stores it's not like a person would want to buy without demoing it first, when he told me they don't put them in stores anymore. Then he told me "hmmm the nearest one I sold to you is.... (looking up zip codes)... San Fransisco... you can call this number and get a demo from him.... I was shocked they would give out such information, hell could be in a guys house. I told him I wouldn't want you giving my information away for demos, and left it at that... I was utterly suprised they sell anything, but damn it does sound like a decent machine. Ok I won't post on the subject anymore, it's going a bit off topic, but thought people would care to know. kintama >You're right in reference to Quasimidi. At least here in the States it is a very poorly run organization. I happened to meet the US sales rep head and you get the impression he runs this thing out of the back of his van. You can only buy direct through him. Ultra-cheezy - I would never buy one under those conditions. > >-Dennis > X-From_: access-list-return-410-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 21:28:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:23:34 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds The factory presets will not tell you the power and flexibility of Virus. I use it every time I'm in studio. Sometimes for moody atmospheric music, too. I work as a producer/kb player. And I'm NOT going to sell my Virus A, ever. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fiX-From_: access-list-return-411-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 22:33:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:24:28 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: NOW: Virus-b/Kb O/S Hi, >2.51 is the current OS for the Virus b as far as I know and the next version will be 3.0, I don't think there will be a 2.52 for the Virus b/kb, but I may be wrong on this one. Wrong: my Keyboard boots with 2.52 Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-412-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 24 23:45:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Do anyone here post... Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:43:27 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:16:41 +0100, "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >We all outvoted Paul Nagle who was all up against it and just did it to get everyone started on programming great sounds....;-) I'm used to that. I now live in fear that every synth list I subscribe will do the same thing.... ;-) BTW, has anyone else had problems in multi mode with envelopes not behaving how they normally do in single mode? I have a Virus "b" here and (of course) I rarely use multi mode but wanted to use a patch from the Virus plus the sound of my Prophecy controller processed via another patch (on the same channel). Simple to set up - but the Virus patch starts to play with awful long delays that are not in the source patch... weird... just me? Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-413-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 25 01:49:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "ruthless?!?!" To: "virus headz" Subject: vocoder Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:57:07 -0800 X-Priority: 3 i cant figure out the vocoder on the virus. using the vocoder presets in the later half of bank b, how can you use them (get them) to make sounds? thanks justinX-From_: access-list-return-415-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 25 07:45:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:50:52 +0200 X-Priority: 3 >You're right in reference to Quasimidi. At least here in the States it is a very poorly run organization. I happened to meet the US sales >rep head and you get the impression he runs this thing out of the back >of his van. You can only buy direct through him. Ultra-cheezy - I would never buy one under those conditions. > >-Dennis Dennis, let me give you a BIG surprise... I bought my VIRUS under the same type of conditions you are talking about the Quasimidi. You will not beleave it, but I waited 2 years to see how the service/backup/support for the virus pans out. I am not bad-mouthing the ACCESS dealer here, but due to the fact that the dealer deals out of a room of his house, nothing like trade-ins, HP or such exists. If you deal/purchase a VIRUS EVERYTHING works only one way in South Africa, and that is called CASH!!! It is one of the MAJOR reasons why the VIRUS is so hard to find in South Africa... As far as I am concerned, you can count yourself lucky just to have had the oppertunity to walk into a music room and sample the VIRUS. Here, we have not even heard the NOVA. I was told by the dealer (who is 1800km away from me) that if I wanted to hear a NOVA, he will send me one, but I have to send him the cash... The same thing with YAMAHA, the dealer sent me a SU700 in a non working state, and when I returned it (1800km), he had the odacity to ask me for shipping... Well after all of that, please don't let me stop anyone of you to come to Cape Town. you have NEVER seen out-door parties (trance/GOA-parties) untill you have been to a VORTEX party... .aX-From_: access-list-return-416-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 25 07:58:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: , Subject: Re: Do anyone here post... Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:03:55 +0200 X-Priority: 3 >>We all outvoted Paul Nagle who was all up against it and just did it to get everyone started on programming great sounds....;-) >BTW, has anyone else had problems in multi mode with envelopes not behaving how they normally do in single mode? Well, this is - sort of - my problem... When I play a specific patch in MULTI mode, it sounds a specific way (Sort of like wooooooaaaaaaaaoooooooooaaaa). The moment I start playing another sound (different channel, different output) the sound starts going woooooooooooooooooo only. I have tried to change the sound's priority to HIGH without a resalt. I have tried the same output, still the same. The sound is generated totally from the internal synth, no additional CC's sent from a sequencer AND the sound-scape (shall we call it 'scape') is not created by using a LFO. This is why I wanted to send a MIDI file. It would have outlined the problem very quickly. I have asked a friend to test this on his VIRUS-a machine, and it seems to be a VIRUS-b ONLY problem, but I could be wrong. Thanks AubreyX-From_: access-list-return-417-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 25 13:27:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Assistance needed - how do you change from SINGLE to MULTI mode? Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:21:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Please could someone help me? 1. I would like to change from SINGLE to MULTI mode using my sequencer. 2. I would like to do a program change in MULTI mode. Thanks for your time. ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-418-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 25 14:02:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Cakewalk ins file available at: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:06:27 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Hallo everyone. I have created a new version of the Cakewalk INS file. This file is only valid for 2.51/2.52 and DOES NOT have any MULTI changes in it as yet. If anyone could please help me with info on how to change the VIRUS's mode from SINGLE to MULTI - AND BACK - it would help me very much. Thank you for the time oh, I forgot, the url to get the INS file is: http://cyber7.musicpage.com http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers http://go.to/cyber7 follow the links into the VIRUS link. The site is still under construction, so mind the falling BITES. All the above URL's are the same, so don't tell me so :)) You might ask, why so many? This is due to the South African "MAPS" getting quite confused, 'cause our IP's keeps on getting stolen by China and Russia and one of the URL's will always work due to the time it takes to corrupt the "MAPS" :)) ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-428-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 26 19:19:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:34:32 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Distribution South Africa >>From what you say, the shop infrastructure in Cape Town is generally in a >>bad condition, no matter what products they sell. Right? > >Is there no big music shop in Cape Town, with a regular show room? -Christoph Maybe contact our South-Africa-Distributor to get infos where to find the next shop, etc.: Network 77 Music Evolution PO Box 4713 Cape Town 8000 phone: ++27-21-586-485 fax: ++27-21-585-610 netwrk77@iafrica.com Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-421-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 25 15:50:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:49:08 +0100 X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cakewalk ins file available at: X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi Aubrey! Very nice of you to create a new ins.file for the virus.So, I don«t have to do it. For all Cakewalk users out there,this is your man for further updates ;-) You can also send the file to canine for putting it to his download area. stay fresh jens w. Aubrey Kloppers schrieb: > >Hallo everyone. I have created a new version of the Cakewalk INS file. This file is only valid for 2.51/2.52 and DOES NOT have any MULTI changes in it as yet. If anyone could please help me with info on how to change the VIRUS's mode from SINGLE to MULTI - AND BACK - it would help me very much. > >Thank you for the time >oh, I forgot, the url to get the INS file is: http://cyber7.musicpage.com >http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers >http://go.to/cyber7 >follow the links into the VIRUS link. The site is still under construction, so mind the falling BITES. > >All the above URL's are the same, so don't tell me so :)) You might ask, why so many? This is due to the South African "MAPS" getting quite confused, 'cause our IP's keeps on getting stolen by China and Russia and one of the URL's will always work due to the time it takes to corrupt the "MAPS" :)) >******************************************** >- Aubrey Kloppers >- systems@biblesociety.co.za >- Cape Town, South Africa >- tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) >- fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 >*********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-422-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 25 16:04:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:02:04 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds To: access-list@teklab.com I use my virus for spacey ambient things....in fact I'm covering a brian eno tune right now (sombre reptiles).....but if you really want bizarre, go for a microwave xt......not thats its any better than a virus....the wierd factor is just one of the microwave's strong points...... > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-423-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 26 13:46:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:45:10 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: NOW: Virus-b/Kb O/S At 10:24 PM +0100 on 24.11.1999 Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >2.51 is the current OS for the Virus b as far as I know and the next version will be 3.0, I don't think there will be a 2.52 for the Virus b/kb, but I may be wrong on this one. Wrong: my Keyboard boots with 2.52 You are right. I spoke to Joerg from access and he set things straight: 2.52 for Virus b/kb is only available preinstalled, not for download. The 2.52 that is available on the net (my site and access') is only for Virus A. If you have a Virus b/kb and would like to have 2.52 instead of 2.51 (there shouldn't be that many Virus b/kb with 2.51 but if you've got one do this:) find someone else with a virus b/kb and follow the instructions in any readme about how to update your OS by midi'ing it from one Virus to the other. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-424-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 26 13:47:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:47:18 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Assistance needed - how do you change from SINGLE to MULTI mode? At 2:21 PM +0200 on 25.11.1999 Aubrey Kloppers wrote: Please could someone help me? 1. I would like to change from SINGLE to MULTI mode using my sequencer. I don't think this is possible. You'd have to dig into the Sysex docs for that. 2. I would like to do a program change in MULTI mode. You need to enable that feature in the CTRL Menu first. It is switched "off" by default then all you need to do is send the Virus a program change via midi while it is in multi or multisingle mode. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: bigw@jumpontheweb.com Fri Nov 26 13:53:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:08:29 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: NOW: Virus-b/Kb O/S K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: If you have a Virus b/kb and would like to have 2.52 instead of 2.51(there shouldn't be that many Virus b/kb with 2.51 but if you've gotinstructions in any readme about how to update your OS by midi'ing it remember doing this once Canine??? : ) The good old days : ) My friends MPC60 didnt have enough memory for the OS, so we did it this way and it does inded work!!! weldX-From_: access-list-return-425-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 26 14:03:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:08:29 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: NOW: Virus-b/Kb O/S K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: If you have a Virus b/kb and would like to have 2.52 instead of 2.51(there shouldn't be that many Virus b/kb with 2.51 but if you've gotinstructions in any readme about how to update your OS by midi'ing it remember doing this once Canine??? : ) The good old days : ) My friends MPC60 didnt have enough memory for the OS, so we did it this way and it does inded work!!! weldX-From_: access-list-return-426-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 26 16:07:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SLAK305@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:05:53 EST Subject: virus appregiator To: access-list@teklab.com how do u get the arpegiator to work with the virus b i just purchased mine and i cannot get it to work for some reason hope someone can help thanks and happy holidaysX-From_: access-list-return-427-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 26 16:11:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:26:06 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus appregiator Press the control button arpegiator should be the first thing that comes up turn the mode on, press the parameter butons to step up and down to other related prameters also make sure sure clock is not set to external best weld SLAK305@aol.com wrote: >how do u get the arpegiator to work with the virus b i just purchased mine and i cannot get it to work for some reason hope someone can help thanks and happy holidaysX-From_: access-list-return-429-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 27 13:40:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds & S'ware Synths Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 07:52:26 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Thanks for everyones suggestions... Virus, K5000, Microwave XT, Polymorph all sound great... I feel comfortable w/ subtractive synthesis but does anyone know if there exists any software additive and/or wavetable synths? I'd like to fool around a little bit before I jump in... I found applications like Vaz, Rubberduck, etc. to be a great way to learn about the concepts of subtractive analogue-style synthesis - hopefully there is something out there for other synth methods. Thanks, JohnX-From_: access-list-return-430-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 27 13:58:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: Weird Spacey Sounds & S'ware Synths Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 08:09:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 By the way here are a couple apps I found at: http://harmony-central.com/Software/Windows/software_synthesizers.html No wavetable synthesis but plenty of others. Seer System Reality - Sample Playback, Virt. Analog, Advanced FM ,Physical Modelling, Modal Coagula - Image based Additive Granulab - Granular synthesis **************************************************************************** *********************************** >Thanks for everyones suggestions... > >Virus, K5000, Microwave XT, Polymorph all sound great... I feel comfortable >w/ subtractive synthesis but does anyone know if there exists any software additive and/or wavetable synths? I'd like to fool around a little bit before I jump in... I found applications like Vaz, Rubberduck, etc. to be a great way to learn about the concepts of subtractive analogue-style synthesis - hopefully there is something out there for other synth methods. > >Thanks, > >John > X-From_: access-list-return-431-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 27 17:34:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SLAK305@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 11:32:15 EST Subject: virus arpegiator To: access-list@teklab.com what knob on the virus b controls the arpegiator i cannot seem to find it i know how to activate the arpegiartor but want to speed it up and slow it down at certain times and i ust cant seem to find out how to do it thanks alotX-From_: access-list-return-432-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 27 18:03:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:02:53 +0100 X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus arpegiator X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) hi ! there is no extra knob on the virus.go to the arpeggiator menu and step to "arpeggiator clock". now you can change the speed(1/2 , 1/4 .....)due to an external midi-clock signal or the internal clock by turning the value knob or pressing the value buttons. is that the function you«re searching for? stay fresh SLAK305@aol.com schrieb: > >what knob on the virus b controls the arpegiator i cannot seem to find it i know how to activate the arpegiartor but want to speed it up and slow it down at certain times and i ust cant seem to find out how to do it thanks alotX-From_: access-list-return-433-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 27 19:14:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:29:35 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus arpegiator it the parameter called clock use the < parameter button to you get to it while your in the CNTRL menu SLAK305@aol.com wrote: >what knob on the virus b controls the arpegiator i cannot seem to find it i know how to activate the arpegiartor but want to speed it up and slow it down at certain times and i ust cant seem to find out how to do it thanks alotX-From_: access-list-return-434-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 27 19:20:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:35:19 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus arpegiator P.s all this stuff is in your manual as well, you may want to take day or so and read it. whgile trying things out on the virus im not raggin ya , but this is very basic oprations here. weld P.s. you can if you want assign arpegiator speed to one of the definable knobs as well. bigw wrote: >it the parameter called clock use the < parameter button to you get to it while your in the CNTRL menu > >SLAK305@aol.com wrote: > >>what knob on the virus b controls the arpegiator i cannot seem to find it i know how to activate the arpegiartor but want to speed it up and slow it down at certain times and i ust cant seem to find out how to do it thanks alotX-From_: access-list-return-435-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 28 03:04:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:59:51 -0800 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Save OMS, gang... Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, hwseq-list@teklab.com, a3kdev-list@teklab.com Help save Opcodes OMS, gang - go here now and if you agree, sign the petition! http://sonosphere.dyndns.org/Petition/ I really think its needed - Gibson have a history of destroying good technology, so even if you don't know about OMS (Mac MIDI manager), still go there and check it out - it could make all the difference in the world! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-437-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 28 13:17:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:15:37 +0100 From: "hans w.koch" X-Accept-Language: de,de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Save OMS, gang... the point is, that gibson (current owner of opcode) is working on closing opcode down, which in long term will not only affect oms (not the best program, i admit, but something a lot of programs are running with), but also other products like max etc. and gibson does this quite effective, by not just selling a branch, which runs not sufficiently, but by really closing down and keeping all the rights for the products as a dead end. (they have played the game for e.g. with tom oberheim). i took this infos from an article in the web, couple of weeks ago, the source i don«t remember. so it«s not only support for oms. hwk "K.9 Kai Niggemann" schrieb: >> >>Help save Opcodes OMS, gang - go here now and if you agree, sign the petition! >> >>http://sonosphere.dyndns.org/Petition/ >> >>I really think its needed - Gibson have a history of destroying good technology, so even if you don't know about OMS (Mac MIDI manager), still go there and check it out - it could make all the difference in the world! > >Hm, sorry, but I don't see the point, really. Everyone is always bitching about OMS and I know I don't like it the least bit. Maybe now is the time to let it die to make room for a new development that is actually better? > >I'm not petitioning. If anything I'd ask people to petition with Steinberg or Emagic or some such company to make a 21st century replacement... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-438-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 28 20:35:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:31:14 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Save OMS, gang... At 1:15 PM +0100 on 28.11.1999 hans w.koch wrote: the point is, that gibson (current owner of opcode) is working on closing opcode down, which in long term will not only affect oms (not the best program, i admit, but something a lot of programs are running with), but also other products like max etc. I am much more worried about Max, you're right there! But the latest news seems to be that Apple is buying OMS from Opcode (http://www.maccentral.com/news/9911/27.lieshman.shtml), so I guess things are working for OMS... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-439-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 29 11:25:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Robert.Mirza-Zadeh@escada.de To: " - (052)access-list(a)teklab.com" Subject: VIRUS OS 3.0 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:24:11 +0100 hi folks, anybody knows, when the new OS will be released? i can«t wait it anymore..... greetz RobertX-From_: access-list-return-440-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 29 19:05:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:58:05 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: VIRUS OS 3.0 I believe it is going to be something between a Hannukah and a christmas present... At 11:24 AM +0100 on 29.11.1999 Robert.Mirza-Zadeh@escada.de wrote: hi folks, anybody knows, when the new OS will be released? i can«t wait it anymore..... greetz Robert think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-441-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 29 19:40:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:39:27 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: vocoder >i cant figure out the vocoder on the virus. using the vocoder presets in the later half of bank b, how can you use them (get them) to make sounds? > plug some line-level signal into one or both of the INPUTs on the back of your virus. If you want to use a microphone, it usually needs to go thru a mixer or mic preamp to bring the signal level up to the correct strength. play a few notes while you talk into the mic (or let the radio play thru, or have your sampler play some drumloops, or, or, or, or...) and you should hear the vocoder effect. There are two ways of doing input (INP MODE toward the end of the EDIT menu) in the Virus: 1) STATIC - you play some notes, they stay on until the patch changes 2) DYNAMIC - the vocoder sound stops as soon as there are not any notes pressed. By putting INP MODE to DYNAMIC and turning on the Arpeggiator, some neat rhythmic gating effects can be had.... =zsX-From_: access-list-return-442-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 29 21:16:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:10:59 EST Subject: Re: VIRUS OS 3.0 To: access-list@teklab.com it is certainly coming out in december sometime, no later...