X-From_: access-list-return-48-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 1 02:09:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Mimmo Vitrano" To: Subject: R: OS developing Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:05:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Ok,ok...........is not for me thank you anyway and keep on working like so far.... Ciao ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:27 PM Subject: Re: OS developing >In einer eMail vom 30.10.99 08:47:41 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Hy Christoph, >>how to know more about O.S. and its developing? (I mean the language you wrote it and possibly the code....) What about a sort of Linux philosophy? >>If people, who is capable, send lines of code to you probably the O.S. >could >>increase in features exponentially, of course not passing the edge and >limits >>of the DSP..... > >The code is completely written in machine code (assembler) and highly optimized. I think it's impossible to use it as a public operating system. Even to create a documentation for third party programmers would take months. > >Ciao >Christoph > X-From_: access-list-return-49-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 1 07:18:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:20:36 -0800 Subject: TDM Virus plug in From: "Bob Frye" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Hello - Last weekend I went to the big Digidesign sales demo event "Digiworld" at Warner Brother's studio. Among many great things on display was the "early alpha" of the Virus TDM plug in for Pro Tools. I got to play with it for some time, and while a good many of the functions are not yet operational, it is capable of making sounds - and it sounds very good indeed. Of course, the beauty of having all the real time knobs and controls on the real Virus is something the virtual one lacks... adding a Doepfer or other control surface would be necessary. Still, it's a very cool plug in for Pro Tools... with the Mix Plus system, the Digi guys were spec'ing an amazing number of possible instantiations of a single Virus TDM Plug in. Suggested list price is quoted as $795. Bob X-From_: access-list-return-50-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 1 10:23:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: jay@teklab.com Subject: SPAM on the TekLab Lists - **IMPORTANT** Please Read. To: a3k-list@teklab.com, dspfact-list@teklab.com, hwseq-list@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, teksupport@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, fatman-l@teklab.com, music-bar@teklab.com, sy85-list@teklab.com, w-listan1x-list@teklab.com, fss-list@teklab.com, octa-list@teklab.com, tekdev-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:08:05 -0800 (PST) Dear TekLab mailing list subscribers, With the recent changeover of list processors here at TekLab came a brief onslaught of SPAM mail from unscrupulous abusers of free email systems such as the ones we provide. This evening I installed the necessary filters on our list processor software to ensure that SPAMMING of TekLab lists - a practice we consider utterly distasteful - is no longer possible. Rest assured - we (TekLab) do *NOT* condone spamming, nor do we intend to every participate in it (willingly, or unwillingly) in the future. Every effort is being made to ensure that the TekLab lists are high quality, useful resources for musicians around the world - and we apologize for the inconvenience that the recent SPAM may have caused you. Note that these new SPAM filters may cause *some* subscribers some difficulty with regards to posting to the list. If for some reason, your mails do not seem to go through to the lists after a reasonable period (3 hours or so), please let me know directly. If you *are* being filtered by our SPAM blocks, you will receive a message to that effect relatively quickly - there are some things I can do to fix this for you, so that you can participate in our mailing lists as well. I believe that our lists are now filtering mail from SPAMMERS. If you notice any further activity of this nature on a free TekLab mailing list, please let me know directly - send mail to jv@teklab.com - so that I can take care of it. Thanks! j. -- Jay Vaughan Administrator TekLabX-From_: access-list-return-51-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 1 10:40:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: test... ignore Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:28:53 -0800 X-Priority: 3 test to see if I was filtered. since I was somehow filtered before the change and we never understood why I couldn't post. so now I check to see if it's back to that. sorry to waste bandwith but necessary JamesX-From_: access-list-return-52-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 1 12:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 03:26:01 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in At 10:20 PM 10/31/99 -0800, you wrote: >Hello - >Tools... with the Mix Plus system, the Digi guys were spec'ing an amazing number of possible instantiations of a single Virus TDM Plug in. Suggested list price is quoted as $795. >Bob $795 for the plugin or $795 for the Mix Plus system? I knew I should have gone to that event... It strikes me as interesting that Access have done a TDM plugin of the Virus code - is there any similarity with the DSP used in the TDM farm and the Virus' own DSP? How much of the code was ported - Christoph, can you tell us about this effort from a technical perspective? You mentioned earlier that all of the Access code is written in assembler - was this ported to the TDM Farm DSP's? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ **X-From_: access-list-return-56-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 2 01:05:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: barney@mvfx.com Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 16:04:01 -0800 From: be love X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in Christoph, Would you ever make a VST compatible plug in ? BarnabyX-From_: access-list-return-57-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 2 06:03:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:05:32 -0800 Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in From: "Bob Frye" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 $795 for the plug in, of course... the mix plus system is a few large. (several thousand dollars) The reason that the port could be done is that the Virus and the TDM farm use the very same DSP Bob ---------- >From: Jay Vaughan >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in >Date: Mon, Nov 1, 1999, 3:26 AM > >At 10:20 PM 10/31/99 -0800, you wrote: >>Hello - >>Tools... with the Mix Plus system, the Digi guys were spec'ing an amazing number of possible instantiations of a single Virus TDM Plug in. Suggested list price is quoted as $795. >>Bob > > >$795 for the plugin or $795 for the Mix Plus system? > >I knew I should have gone to that event... > >It strikes me as interesting that Access have done a TDM plugin of the Virus code - is there any similarity with the DSP used in the TDM farm and the Virus' own DSP? How much of the code was ported - Christoph, can you tell us about this effort from a technical perspective? > >You mentioned earlier that all of the Access code is written in assembler - was this ported to the TDM Farm DSP's? > > >j. > > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** > X-From_: access-list-return-58-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 2 06:04:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:05:42 -0800 Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in From: "Bob Frye" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 not sure, Digi is obviously talkin mostly about their most current and saleable systems... i'd ask digi about this. bob ---------- >From: "Marc LaCorte" To: >Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in >Date: Tue, Nov 2, 1999, 4:01 AM > >Is this true that this Plug in will only work on Mix and mix Plus systems..? > >-----Original Message----- >From: CKe9644719@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 3:52 PM >Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in > > >>In einer eMail vom 01.11.99 12:29:39 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >> >>> >>>It strikes me as interesting that Access have done a TDM plugin of the Virus code - is there any similarity with the DSP used in the TDM farm >and >>>the Virus' own DSP? How much of the code was ported - Christoph, can >you >>>tell us about this effort from a technical perspective? >>> >>>You mentioned earlier that all of the Access code is written in >assembler >>- >>>was this ported to the TDM Farm DSP's? >>> >> >>Simple answer: Digidesign uses the same Motorola DSP that we use. We >modified >>the input-output-processing and further communication to make the Virus >code >>act as a plug-in, the sound engine is exactly the same. >> >>Ciao >>Christoph >> > X-From_: access-list-return-59-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 2 06:06:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:08:11 -0800 Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in From: "Bob Frye" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 >I don't know about an amazing number of instantiations, we set the number of possible instantiations to 8 per DSP. This sounds practical... I forget the exact number the saleperson quoted, (24 keeps coming to mind) but if it was truthful, it must have been for a system with alot of dsp cards... very cool, though I'd miss all my knobs, etc. bobX-From_: access-list-return-55-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 2 00:59:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Marc LaCorte" From: "Marc LaCorte" To: Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:01:54 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Is this true that this Plug in will only work on Mix and mix Plus systems..? -----Original Message----- From: CKe9644719@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in >In einer eMail vom 01.11.99 12:29:39 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>It strikes me as interesting that Access have done a TDM plugin of the Virus code - is there any similarity with the DSP used in the TDM farm and >>the Virus' own DSP? How much of the code was ported - Christoph, can you >>tell us about this effort from a technical perspective? >> >>You mentioned earlier that all of the Access code is written in assembler >- >>was this ported to the TDM Farm DSP's? >> > >Simple answer: Digidesign uses the same Motorola DSP that we use. We modified >the input-output-processing and further communication to make the Virus code >act as a plug-in, the sound engine is exactly the same. > >Ciao >Christoph X-From_: access-list-return-62-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 2 21:51:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 21:46:14 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Chrono Subject: Re: TDM Virus plug in At 08:02 11/2/99 -0500, you wrote: >In einer eMail vom 02.11.99 00:58:43 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >> >>Is this true that this Plug in will only work on Mix and mix Plus >systems..? >> > >Yes. Only these systems have the big DSP. Hi, Can "we" find some screenshots anywhere? I'm curious to have a look at the GFX used in the plugin.... Bye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nlX-From_: access-list-return-127-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 9 19:29:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: " Tom" From: " Tom" To: Subject: Drehbank Virus Controller Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:35:39 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Is anyone using the drehbank with their virus? Whats they think of this controller box... looks ideal.X-From_: access-list-return-63-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 12:44:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Info for Germany, Swiss and Austria Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:43:23 +0100 X-Priority: 1 Hi List, The distribution of my Access Virus Signature Set trough Nice Bytes Music has stopped. I do sell them again directly or maybe later trough other companies. For the lucky ones who own my Signature Set: Very soon you can download at my homepage a extra Multies dump that combines the Signature Set (multies) and the new RP factory sounds (multies) in one bank. Notice: the single sounds of the Signature Set have to be in Bank A and the new RP factory single sounds in Bank B. This of course after the release by Access of the new RP factory sounds. best regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM - PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________X-From_: access-list-return-64-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 20:26:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:24:05 EST Subject: Rippin Trance lines To: access-list@teklab.com Hey everyone, I just spent some time away from my equipment and music and had lots of time to reflect and think about what I need. As a new Virus user I realized I need some serious rippin 303 trance lines running through my music. After fooling around with the Virus, I realized I probably need an effects processor to run some of my lines through. So for all you trance creators with Virus', can you please give some advice as to what patches you love and how you run them through effects. Also, what is a good effects module? Thank you very much, in time I think I'll be on my way to gettting the sound I am looking for. danielX-From_: access-list-return-65-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 20:49:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 11:49:53 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Rippin Trance lines I like to give my 303-type sounds a little distortion. I use a plug-in within Cubase VST, but I'm sure you could get similar grit from either a DOD Bass Grunge pedal (which I use for my electric bass) or a Boss Heavy Metal or Hyper Metal pedal. Adding some distortion to the sound makes it stand out in the mix a little more prominently. You can also use it to give your patch a sort of Metallica-guitar feel (which I like). Moderation is the key, though. Too much distortion makes a sound turn to mush. Cam At 02:24 PM 11/4/99 EST, you wrote: >Hey everyone, I just spent some time away from my equipment and music and had >lots of time to reflect and think about what I need. As a new Virus user I realized I need some serious rippin 303 trance lines running through my music. After fooling around with the Virus, I realized I probably need an effects processor to run some of my lines through. So for all you trance creators with Virus', can you please give some advice as to what patches you love and how you run them through effects. Also, what is a good effects module? Thank you very much, in time I think I'll be on my way to gettting the sound I am looking for. > >daniel X-From_: access-list-return-66-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 21:04:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 12:02:52 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Rippin Trance lines >Hey everyone, I just spent some time away from my equipment and music and had lots of time to reflect and think about what I need. As a new Virus user I realized I need some serious rippin 303 trance lines running through my music. ... So for all you trance >creators with Virus', can you please give some advice as to what patches you love and how you run them through effects. The Virus has most of what you probably want to do, effects-wise. Dial-in a 303ish sound (VBirth1,2,3 come to mind), throw on the Arpeggiator with a 1/16 note duration, and get a 3/16 delay going (effect send ~80, feedback ~50). This is a pretty standard sound that you will hear in a lot of trance music (the 3/16 delay is key). Play with the chorus and saturation settings to taste. I guess the only other FX you may need in addition would be some sort of reverb or flange or whatever. I have a Lexicon MPX-100 and an Alesis MidiVerb4. Both perform nicely ... and both are under $250. The Lexicon has a nicer sound (my opinion, of course), but the Alesis gives you far more control over the FX controls. Both can do two simultaneous stereo effects, which is a good value. I have them hooked into the AUX sends & returns on my mixer. Now, if you're feeling adventurous, *make your own* 303ish sound. Start from patch A-127 (START). Get both OSCs on the sawtooth waveform. For a fat sound, set OSC2 to play an octave above OSC1, and throw the SUBOSC onto SAW as well. Turn up the SUBOSC and put the OSC BALance in the middle. Now you have three octaves of Sawtooth. Put both filters on LP (lowpass) and use the SER6 routing. Turn down FILTER1's cutoff just below halfway. Turn up the Resonance about halfway. Dial in a filter envelope (play with all the settings!), and turn up ENV AMOUNT on the filters (this controls how much of the filter envelope actually controls the filter cutoff). Add some saturation and play with the OSC VOL knob (values from 0 to +63). Now you may start to get a sound that pleases you. Now tweak the settings until you go nuts! Suggestions: 1) Use pulse waveforms instead of sawtooth -- they give an "out-there" kind of sound, versus the in-your-face sound of the sawtooth -- plus the added sonic options of Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) to work with. 2) Get the LFO's working ... have them modulate filter cutoff, PWM, panning, etc, etc, etc. 3) Add some expressive controls to the sound using the ASSIGNs. Latch the Mod-Wheel to filter cutoff and/or resonance. Think of something to do with Aftertouch, if you have a keyboard controller that has that (e.g. use it to modulate the LFO3 OSC value for a vibrato-effect). The Virus has so much more sound-shaping tools than a 303 -- put them to work! I find it easy to spend hours and hours on a single patch -- and when you're done you've got something that is *exactly* what you want. And now that OS version 2.52 lets you preview a sound without a MIDI controller attached, hook up a battery and design sounds in your favorite outdoor venue! Anyhow, food for thought... zs After fooling around with the Virus, I realized I probably need an >effects processor to run some of my lines through. Also, what is a good effects module? Thank you very much, in time I think I'll be on my way to gettting the sound I am looking for.X-From_: access-list-return-67-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 21:12:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 12:11:09 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Battery Powered Virus Christoph (and Virus Owners) ... What would I need to do to get the Virus running on battery power? Since OSv2.52 gives the preview option, I'd like to take my Virus different places to design sounds (my living room has only a single 'vibe'). Would a typical 9-volt battery give enough juice? How about a battery pack made of 6 AA cells? Any idea how long I could expect the Virus to run on this? thx zsX-From_: access-list-return-68-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 21:32:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:30:07 EST Subject: Frankestein patch To: access-list@teklab.com Hello. I am trying to recreate the ARP 2600 patch used on The Edgar Winter Group's song Frankenstein with the Virus. I was wondering if any one has a patch like this? If so, could you send me a .mid file or even a detailed patch diagram? There is one in Mark Vail's "Vintage Synthesizers" book, but it is not very detailed, and it's written for the 2600. I have tried to use that diagram, but I just can't get it right. It's one of the warmest, and wildest (at the same time!) sounds ever - I love it. Thanks! -JR p.s.- the .mid file (if anyone has one) can just be sent privately to me. Thanks again.X-From_: access-list-return-69-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 22:24:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:11:16 +0100 X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Battery Powered Virus X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi ! As you can see on the front panel you need 12V DC.Six AA cells connected prallel are still 9 Volts. I don«t know the the amount of the current flow in the Virus, but I can imagine you need a high capacity Accupack to run the virus for some hours.I can measure it out to give you some excact values for a suitable Accupack.What about a little diesel-generator?! Stay Fresh Jens W. Zack Steinkamp schrieb: > >Christoph (and Virus Owners) ... > >What would I need to do to get the Virus running on battery power? > >Since OSv2.52 gives the preview option, I'd like to take my Virus different places to design sounds (my living room has only a single 'vibe'). > >Would a typical 9-volt battery give enough juice? How about a battery pack made of 6 AA cells? Any idea how long I could expect the Virus to run on this? > >thx >zsX-From_: access-list-return-70-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 23:14:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Dr.Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Battery Powered Virus Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:52:29 +0100 X-Priority: 3 >What would I need to do to get the Virus running on battery power? A lot of money for batteries I guess ;-) My small QY70 runs about 3 hours with 6 cells. Regards Stefan btw I tried to connect my Virus to my bicycle dynamo to combine sports and sound programming but it worked only at a speed above 50 mph ;-) -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Zack Steinkamp An: Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. November 1999 21:11 Betreff: Battery Powered Virus >Christoph (and Virus Owners) ... > >What would I need to do to get the Virus running on battery power? > >Since OSv2.52 gives the preview option, I'd like to take my Virus different places to design sounds (my living room has only a single 'vibe'). > >Would a typical 9-volt battery give enough juice? How about a battery pack made of 6 AA cells? Any idea how long I could expect the Virus to run on this? > >thx >zsX-From_: access-list-return-71-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 4 23:26:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Battery Powered Virus To: access-list@teklab.com What the Virus needs is a crank to keep it powered so it doubles as a Hurdy Gurdy.....might as well throw in a monkey too....everybody loves monkies! Gel-Sol --- Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >Hi ! > >As you can see on the front panel you need 12V DC.Six AA cells connected >prallel are still 9 Volts. >I don“t know the the amount of the current flow in the Virus, but I can >imagine you need a high capacity Accupack to run the virus for some >hours.I can measure it out to give you some excact values for a suitable >Accupack.What about a little diesel-generator?! > >Stay Fresh > >Jens W. > >Zack Steinkamp schrieb: >> >>Christoph (and Virus Owners) ... >> >>What would I need to do to get the Virus running >on battery power? >> >>Since OSv2.52 gives the preview option, I'd like >to take my Virus >>different places to design sounds (my living room >has only a single >>'vibe'). >> >>Would a typical 9-volt battery give enough juice? >How about a battery >>pack made of 6 AA cells? Any idea how long I >could expect the Virus to >>run on this? >> >>thx >>zs > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-72-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 5 06:49:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:49:05 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Rippin Trance lines X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.61 Dude, just use saturation. That's how I got my Ditorted TB-303 sound. (which by the way, I posted, I I dont think anyone bothered to take). Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: Cam To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: November 4, 1999 7:49:53 PM GMT Subject: Re: Rippin Trance lines I like to give my 303-type sounds a little distortion. I use a plug-in within Cubase VST, but I'm sure you could get similar grit from either a DOD Bass Grunge pedal (which I use for my electric bass) or a Boss Heavy Metal or Hyper Metal pedal. Adding some distortion to the sound makes it stand out in the mix a little more prominently. You can also use it to give your patch a sort of Metallica-guitar feel (which I like). Moderation is the key, though. Too much distortion makes a sound turn to mush. Cam ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-73-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 5 09:09:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Chris van der Merwe Reply-To: "chris@arnes.si" To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Re: Rippin Trance lines Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:03:36 +0100 Organization: Arnes Encoding: 31 TEXT Oh, ah, care to post it again then lad? >Dude, just use saturation. That's how I got my Ditorted TB-303 sound. (which by the way, I posted, I I dont think anyone bothered to take). >Peaceout Chris ------Original Message------ From: Cam To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: November 4, 1999 7:49:53 PM GMT Subject: Re: Rippin Trance lines I like to give my 303-type sounds a little distortion. I use a plug-in within Cubase VST, but I'm sure you could get similar grit from either a DOD Bass Grunge pedal (which I use for my electric bass) or a Boss Heavy Metal or Hyper Metal pedal. Adding some distortion to the sound makes it stand out in the mix a little more prominently. You can also use it to give your patch a sort of Metallica-guitar feel (which I like). Moderation is the key, though. Too much distortion makes a sound turn to mush. Cam ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-74-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 5 15:43:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:40:10 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: dist. TB-303 patch...again X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.61 Once again, I post my distorted TB-303 patch. Hope you like it. Please let me know. Peaceout Peter ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-75-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 5 15:50:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:46:59 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: dist. TB-303 patch...again(for real) X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.61 Once again, I post my distorted TB-303 patch. Hope you like it. Please let me know. Peaceout Peter ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Content-Type: music/crescendo; name=Tubee.mid Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Tubee.mid Content-ID: Tubee.mid Attachment converted: f2000:Tubee.mid 1 (????/----) (000045FA)X-From_: access-list-return-76-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 5 15:58:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Chris van der Merwe Reply-To: "chris@arnes.si" To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: dist. TB-303 patch...again Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:50:52 +0100 Organization: Arnes Encoding: 22 TEXT Thanks Peter, I'll try it out this weekend and let you know how it went Monday! Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: Peter Hasek [SMTP:casparproject@email.com] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 3:40 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: dist. TB-303 patch...again Once again, I post my distorted TB-303 patch. Hope you like it. Please let me know. Peaceout Peter ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-77-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 5 16:01:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:31:15 +0330 (GMT+03:30) From: dimi@dds.nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: EVP-page is back! WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Hi All! The EVP page is back! Sorry, i didn't update it yet. That will happen the next millenium because I'm going to finish university dec. 22th! And it has a new, permanent URL: http://www.sijperda.com/evp Take a look! The same goes for the dimi-page, at http://www.sijperda.com/dimi Dimitri.X-From_: access-list-return-78-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 00:29:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:27:46 EST Subject: sending OS via midi To: access-list@teklab.com Yo, can I transfer the new OS of the Virus via Cakewalk? In the past, I had to use a demo of Cubase, but I lost it. So, if I can use Cakewalk, there is no problem but if not, how can I get a demo of a sequencing program that can send patches and new OS' to the Virus??? Thanks danX-From_: access-list-return-79-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 03:14:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:14:53 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: sending OS via midi You can not use Cakewalk, because Cakewalk sets a limit on the amount of sysex data that can be transfered at one time, and the Virus OS exceeds this amount. Don't ask me why there is a limit, it seems kind of dumb, but that's another matter. You can download a demo of Cubase at www.us.steinberg.net. Cam At 06:27 PM 11/5/99 EST, you wrote: >Yo, can I transfer the new OS of the Virus via Cakewalk? In the past, I had to use a demo of Cubase, but I lost it. So, if I can use Cakewalk, there is no problem but if not, how can I get a demo of a sequencing program that can send patches and new OS' to the Virus??? > >Thanks >dan X-From_: access-list-return-80-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 03:55:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 03:52:17 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus Soundsets Hi, I know how Rob Papens soundsets sound, but I have no idea how the other sets sound. Could anyone please tell me how all these other soundsets sound? I know Nicebytes sells some and there are a couple of other sets as well. Any info is appreciated! Many thanks!!! Greetings, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-81-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 11:50:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:42:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: extrernal effects At 9:02 PM +0100 on 04.11.1999 Zack Steinkamp wrote: >I guess the only other FX you may need in addition would be some sort of reverb or flange or whatever. I have a Lexicon MPX-100 and an Alesis MidiVerb4. Both perform nicely ... and both are under $250. The Lexicon has a nicer sound (my opinion, of course), but the Alesis gives you far more control over the FX controls. Both can do two simultaneous stereo effects, which is a good value. I have them hooked into the AUX sends & returns on my mixer. I would suppose that for trance you might want to look into the SX-700 by Boss. Great machine that does RSS (3D) reverbs. Mental. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-82-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 11:51:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:46:19 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Battery Powered Virus I had my power supply steam and smell like burning on stage once. When I replaced it with another wall wart, things didn't go so well. The wall wart only had an output of 300 mA, I guess the Virus needs somewhere in the 500-800 range (Jšrg, can you confirm this?) 90 volts are usually enough though, but I don't know if that has anything to do with life expectancy (for the Virus or the power supply or the batteries...) as I am no electrician... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-83-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 13:48:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 08:00:56 -0500 From: bigw To: Access List , Jim B-Reay , Joeri Vankeirsbilck , Rob Papen Subject: Top 10 things Weld likes about his new Virus B 1. The HOTTER output....wow!!!!!! 2. Less noise from the outputs 3. Better quality audio jacks in back, not as flimsy 4. little more of a overall solid feel on the unit compared to the mk1 5. The very solid and smooth feeling new knobs 6. The edit buttons for the filter, lfo, and osc sections, pressing these buttons take you right to that sections menu list on the display.....awesome! 7. The multi part buttons 8.The effects button!! 9.The fact that after almost 2 months of a gap I HAVE a VIRUS again (after selling my mk1 for the keyboard). I already used it last night for a cartoon score im doing. 10. Its still the most bitchin synth IVE EVER OWNED! 10b. The elimination of the wall wart power supply. 10c. The addition of a dedicated midi thru jack A few things I Miss and dont like....very few! the old buttons with the led build into them, the very flimsy connection of the new power supply to the connector on the virus (this worries me), the elimination of the saturation button, * nitpicking........cant wait until the random mode feature is added, the fact that Rob Papen had designed some awesome new patches for the unit and I dont have them yet : ) Best WeldX-From_: access-list-return-84-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 16:13:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 16:35:27 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Soundsets STAY AWAY FROM THE OTHER NICE BYTES DISKS . Turn randomly knobs and you will get better patches . And i think Rob Papen doesnt sell them anymore trough Nice bytes, youll get them directly from him . I like the Easy Sounds Sets too . They are worth the money . I think there are 4 disks of them . Oli Joeri Vankeirsbilck schrieb: >Hi, > >I know how Rob Papens soundsets sound, but I have no idea how the other sets >sound. Could anyone please tell me how all these other soundsets sound? I know >Nicebytes sells some and there are a couple of other sets as well. Any info is >appreciated! Many thanks!!! > >Greetings, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm > >http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-85-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 16:41:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 10:55:46 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: lost art of programming I can tell you from 12 years of experience. The lost art of syrth programming has been a shame, (remember when magazines would dedicate issues to the subject? ) one might even argue that limiting memory on synths to bring creativity back to programming synthesizers might be a good idea? (waldorf Pulse with 40 user patches) For one persons opinion though the Rob Papen signature set for the virus is truly a very professional set of sounds and quite useful for starting blocks on your own programming excursions. (its also a great primer on how to do killer multi's) The best stuff ive heard in a long time from a lost art. Best Weld Oliver wrote: >STAY AWAY FROM THE OTHER NICE BYTES DISKS . Turn randomly knobs and you will get better patches . And i think Rob Papen doesnt sell them anymore >trough Nice bytes, youll get them directly from him . I like the Easy Sounds Sets too . >They are worth the money . I think there are 4 disks of them . > >Oli > >Joeri Vankeirsbilck schrieb: > >>Hi, >> >>I know how Rob Papens soundsets sound, but I have no idea how the other sets >>sound. Could anyone please tell me how all these other soundsets sound? I know >>Nicebytes sells some and there are a couple of other sets as well. Any info is >>appreciated! Many thanks!!! >> >>Greetings, >>Joeri >>-- >>Joeri Vankeirsbilck >>joeri@belway.com >> >>List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm >> >>http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-87-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 18:17:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:19:27 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C 1. Controls for all functions! Finally. No more digging through menus to change the rate of LFO 3. 2. Jacks located so that they don't prevent rack mounting. WOW!!! 3. Ring modulator has a choice of inputs, instead of hard wired to OSC 1 & 2. WOOHOO! It is now actually useful! 4. Definable knobs 1 & 2 available as sources in the modulation matrix. 5. Ring modulator volume available as destination in modulation matrix. 6. Split mode filter inputs selectable, I can (for example) use one filter for noise, and the other for both oscillators. 7. Split mode filter output controllable: no longer is one panned hard left and the other hard right. What was that anyway? A tribute to the Commodore Amiga? 8. Comb filter and formant filter models. 9. Soft syncing oscillators! (What's more: soft sync amount available from mod matrix!) 10. The "punch" click no longer changes with the note number, so that when I program a drum patch where all key tracking is ignored (all notes have the same pitch, filter, etc), all notes indeed sound the same. With the old Virus A/B, the "punch" was the only thing you couldn't control the key tracking of. 11. Much higher update rate on LFOs, so that when you steer LFO rate close to audio range, quantisation doesn't become painfully apparent. Best, - Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-88-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 19:08:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:06:49 EST Subject: Re: lost art of programming To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 11/6/99 9:41:11 AM, bigw@jumpontheweb.com writes: >one might even argue that limiting memory on synths to bring creativity back to programming synthesizers might be a good idea? Quite possibly, but another block to programming is the fact that on the old synths one knob performed one function, without pages. Even the Virus (bless its virtual heart!!!!) requires some paging thru the display to reach certain functions. -MarshallX-From_: access-list-return-89-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 19:58:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 19:56:33 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Soundsets Hi Oliver, >STAY AWAY FROM THE OTHER NICE BYTES DISKS . Turn randomly knobs and you will get better patches. And i think Rob Papen doesnt sell them anymore >trough Nice bytes, youll get them directly from him. >I like the Easy Sounds Sets too . >They are worth the money . I think there are 4 disks of them . Thanks for the info! I'm preparing everything for my Virus Keyboard to arrive next week.... :) About the Easy soundsets: I just checked and I only see 3 sets instead of 4... They look up to date and interesting! Thanks again!!! Greetings, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-90-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 6 21:18:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: earache@ix.netcom.com Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 15:17:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 You are a funny guy. Actually had me going for a moment there. eric ---------- >From: Ronald Pieket >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Date: Sat, Nov 6, 1999, 11:19 AM > > >1. Controls for all functions! Finally. No more digging through menus to change the rate of LFO 3. >2. Jacks located so that they don't prevent rack mounting. WOW!!! 3. Ring modulator has a choice of inputs, instead of hard wired to OSC 1 & 2. WOOHOO! It is now actually useful! >4. Definable knobs 1 & 2 available as sources in the modulation matrix. 5. Ring modulator volume available as destination in modulation matrix. 6. Split mode filter inputs selectable, I can (for example) use one filter for noise, and the other for both oscillators. 7. Split mode filter output controllable: no longer is one panned hard left and the other hard right. What was that anyway? A tribute to the Commodore Amiga? 8. Comb filter and formant filter models. 9. Soft syncing oscillators! (What's more: soft sync amount available from mod matrix!) >10. The "punch" click no longer changes with the note number, so that when I program a drum patch where all key tracking is ignored (all notes have the same pitch, filter, etc), all notes indeed sound the same. With the old Virus A/B, the "punch" was the only thing you couldn't control the key tracking of. 11. Much higher update rate on LFOs, so that when you steer LFO rate close to audio range, quantisation doesn't become painfully apparent. > >Best, > >- Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-91-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 03:22:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "iinsectt" To: Subject: Virus editor ? Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:37:16 -0700 X-Priority: 3 heheheheee.... Was just playing around with the mWaveEdit for the Microwave2/XT =) By far, this editor is the best synth editor for the PC that I have ever used hmmmmmm......would be real cool to find one for the Virus like that one. *hint* *hint* Cheers !!! iinsecttX-From_: access-list-return-92-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 15:37:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Tom" From: "Tom" To: Subject: Drehbank Controller Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:54:06 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Hey dudes... has anyone got or used the drehbank by Doepfer? http://www.doepfer.deX-From_: access-list-return-93-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 16:15:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:29:45 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Drehbank Controller I think you would find the peavey 1600 and kenton controlfreak all both better supported, and a bit easier to program. weld Tom wrote: >Hey dudes... >has anyone got or used the drehbank by Doepfer? http://www.doepfer.deX-From_: access-list-return-118-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 18:59:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Tom" From: "Tom" To: Subject: Re: Drehbank Controller Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:18:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 BUT. They don't have 64 knobs. And maybe the drehbank will pick up... eventually?? Can you rack-mount the kenton or peavey? ----- Original Message ----- From: bigw To: Sent: 07 November 1999 15:29 Subject: Re: Drehbank Controller >I think you would find the peavey 1600 and kenton controlfreak all both better supported, and a bit easier to program. weld > >Tom wrote: > >>Hey dudes... >>has anyone got or used the drehbank by Doepfer? http://www.doepfer.de > > > X-From_: access-list-return-94-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 19:18:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 13:32:42 -0500 From: bigw To: Access List Subject: noise gate type problem on Virus B? Does anyone else hear what seems to be a noise gate turning off after the envelope cycle of a note. NOTE ON the VIRUS B ONLY! very irratating and noticeable. WeldX-From_: access-list-return-95-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 22:04:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: dserrini@pop.mindspring.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 14:02:58 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Daniel Serrini Subject: Yamaha FS1R question Does anyone on this list use the FS1R? If so I have the following question that I hope someone can help me with. Im having difficulty loading my DX7 II sounds into the FS1R (its layout is a real bear)! Some sounds dump fine into the FS1R while others do not sound anything like the original patches. I suspect the sounds that are not being loaded correctly are sounds which utilize the unison mode on the DX7 II. Does the FS1R have the capability to also do this essental feature? I dont see it specified in the manual if in fact the FS1R has a unison mode like the DX7 II. Also, can I dump a whole bank of patches as opposed to one at a time/ The manual is so poorly written and fairly uniformative for such an awsome instument. I appologise for using the Virus list for a non-related instrument. The FS1R list on Teklab seems to be inactive. I have posted this question there with no response. Thanks, DanX-From_: access-list-return-98-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 22:43:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:42:28 EST Subject: Re: Would I buy the C To: access-list@teklab.com << I might even pull my joe mox sunsyn down payment let alone buy one!!!: ) >> agreed. make it at least 16 note poly and no loss of effects in multimode like the nova and i'd even sell a few things. - shawnX-From_: access-list-return-99-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 22:47:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Drehbank Controller Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 21:44:40 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:29:45 -0500, bigw wrote: >I think you would find the peavey 1600 and kenton controlfreak all both better supported, and a bit easier to program. weld Heyup dude! Easier to program? No way! I've owned a PC1600 and my Drehbank's PC editor makes it MUCH easier to program. As for support - what do you need support for? Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-97-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 22:38:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 16:52:52 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Would I buy the C CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >Would be fantastic! >But would you purchase it? 180 Controls. 2500 Dollar/Euro or so. A dozend rack spaces. Anybody else who would like it? I might even pull my joe mox sunsyn down payment let alone buy one!!!: ) weld > > >>2. Jacks located so that they don't prevent rack mounting. WOW!!! > >A desktop casing for this would occupy another rack space and require a different angle of the case. Use a rack blend to cover the jacks for the same result. > >>3. Ring modulator has a choice of inputs, instead of hard wired to OSC 1 & >2. > >This is planned for the effect section of the Virus b in the near future. > >>4. Definable knobs 1 & 2 available as sources in the modulation matrix. > >This has been possible all the time. >Choose a free 'Performance Controller' (That's what we call controllers that are not part of the sound set), for example Modwheel or controller 12 to 16 as Definable, and select the same controller as a source for the mod matrix. Why so complicated? The Definable knobs are a sender, and the mod matrix is a receiver by definition. They need a controller number to comunicate on, expecial when recorded on a sequencer. > >>5. Ring modulator volume available as destination in modulation matrix. > >Available in V 2.52 > >>6. Split mode filter inputs selectable, I can (for example) use one filter for >>noise, and the other for both oscillators. > >Not obvious, but those options are very hard to realise, due to the heavy optimizing of the Virus algorithms. Finally an output select for each signal source would be desirable :-) > >>7. Split mode filter output controllable: no longer is one panned hard >left >>and >>the other hard right. What was that anyway? A tribute to the Commodore >Amiga? > >The panorama is controllable by Twin/Unison PanSpread. Not really obvious, but described in the manual. No conflicts with Unison BTW. > >> >>8. Comb filter and formant filter models. > >Great topic. A nice work for the future :-) > >>9. Soft syncing oscillators! (What's more: soft sync amount available from mod matrix!) > >There are a number of approches for this. And most of them will produce caotic signals. But I didn't check it yet :-( > >>10. The "punch" click no longer changes with the note number, so that when >I >>program a drum patch where all key tracking is ignored (all notes have the same >>pitch, filter, etc), all notes indeed sound the same. With the old Virus >A/B, >>the "punch" was the only thing you couldn't control the key tracking of. > >Thanks, I never was aware of this. >But the Punch must be linked to something, I would propose Osc1. What do you think? (nobody ever cared before) > >>11. Much higher update rate on LFOs, so that when you steer LFO rate close to >>audio range, quantisation doesn't become painfully apparent. > >Unfortunately modulation on high rate is the most power consuming feature, including filter FM. The Virus OS, like it is, is simply not build for this. A digital filter algorithm that gives the opportunity of an inexpensive filter FM wouldn't sound as smooth as the Virus filter. > >Ciao >ChristophX-From_: access-list-return-102-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 23:58:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 14:58:44 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >>1. Controls for all functions! Finally. No more digging through menus to change the rate of LFO 3. > >Would be fantastic! But would you purchase it? 180 Controls. 2500 Dollar/ Euro or so. A dozend rack spaces. Anybody else who would like it? Who said 180 controls? Did I say 180 controls? You guys are cleverer than that! Just do with the OSC, LFO, ENV, etc, what you already did with the filters, ie one set of controls shared between multiple entities. So instead of having to access the menu for LFO 3 rate, you would press the #3 button, and twist the single LFO 1/2/3 rate knob. That means that, using the current model as a starting point, you can reduce the number of knobs (one LFO block instead of two, one OSC block, etc), which in turn would allow you to bring out the currently "hidden" features. >>2. Jacks located so that they don't prevent rack mounting. WOW!!! > >A desktop casing for this would occupy another rack space and require a different angle of the case. Use a rack blend to cover the jacks for the same result. Great. I'll take it. The current arrangement takes TWO extra spaces. Also, since the rack ears replace half of the casing anyway, the rack bracket itself could have included space for the jacks. >>3. Ring modulator has choice of inputs, instead of hard wired to OSC1&2. > >This is planned for the effect section of the Virus b in the near future. That's better than the current implementation, but less flexible than what I had in mind: if it's part of the effects chain, the sum of all notes is ring modulated - and modulated with what? If it's part of the voice itself, each note is ringmodulated individually, allowing much greater sound design freedom. >>4. Definable knobs 1 & 2 available as sources in the modulation matrix. > >This has been possible all the time. >Choose a free 'Performance Controller' (That's what we call controllers that are not part of the sound set), for example Modwheel or controller 12 to 16 as Definable, and select the same controller as a source for the mod matrix. Why so complicated? The Definable knobs are a sender, and the mod matrix is a receiver by definition. They need a controller number to comunicate on, expecial when recorded on a sequencer. I know, I have used this combination myself. But it seems clumsy. >>5. Ring modulator volume available as destination in modulation matrix. > >Available in V 2.52 Ah. I'm on 2.5 >>6. Split mode filter inputs selectable, I can (for example) use one filter for noise, and the other for both oscillators. > >Not obvious, but those options are very hard to realise, due to the heavy optimizing of the Virus algorithms. Finally an output select for each signal source would be desirable :-) Ah. But I was talking about Virus C. Since this model would undoubtedly be built around a more powerful DSP, this may be possible after all. Personaly, I find the current implementation of split filter mode of limited use. >>7. Split mode filter output controllable: no longer is one panned hard left and the other hard right. What was that anyway? A tribute to the Commodore Amiga? > >The panorama is controllable by Twin/Unison PanSpread. Not really obvious, but described in the manual. No conflicts with Unison BTW. Ah. I'll try that. I don't use this mode much anyway (see 6) >>8. Comb filter and formant filter models. > >Great topic. A nice work for the future :-) That's why I was talking about Virus C. >>9. Soft syncing oscillators! (What's more: soft sync amount available from mod matrix!) > >There are a number of approches for this. And most of them will produce caotic signals. But I didn't check it yet :-( You can find variable soft sync on the Serge, Doepfer, and Moog modular synths. >>10. The "punch" click no longer changes with the note number, so that when I program a drum patch where all key tracking is ignored (all notes have the same pitch, filter, etc), all notes indeed sound the same. With the old Virus A/B, the "punch" was the only thing you couldn't control the key tracking of. > >Thanks, I never was aware of this. But the Punch must be linked to something, I would propose Osc1. What do you think? (nobody ever cared before) I didn't care until I started my tr-808 emulation (which is going very well, thanks - it helps having an actual tr-808 sitting next to my Virus. I'll post it if I ever finish it) Linking the punch pulse length to OSC1 would be logical. >>11. Much higher update rate on LFOs, so that when you steer LFO rate close to audio range, quantisation doesn't become painfully apparent. > >Unfortunately modulation on high rate is the most power consuming feature, including filter FM. The Virus OS, like it is, is simply not build for this. A digital filter algorithm that gives the opportunity of an inexpensive filter FM wouldn't sound as smooth as the Virus filter. Virus C? - Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-100-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 7 22:58:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:12:06 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Drehbank Controller I own a mac which makes its a bit harder to use the p.c. editor : ) there all good .....I think the new , but expensive IBK control 10 really looks cool weld Paul Nagle wrote: >On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:29:45 -0500, bigw wrote: > >>I think you would find the peavey 1600 and kenton controlfreak all both better supported, and a bit easier to program. weld > >Heyup dude! >Easier to program? No way! I've owned a PC1600 and my Drehbank's PC editor makes it MUCH easier to program. As for support - what do you need support for? > >Paul >--- >Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music >email: paul@softroom.co.uk >web: www.softroom.co.uk >--- >Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-103-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 03:08:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 18:09:08 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Ok, I've taken the challenge. 180 Controls? You're smarter than that, Christopher. Well, at least I am. The design below eliminates the need to read the 2-line LCD for all sound-shaping facilities, with the exception of the modulation matrix. The LCD is still used to set up multis, midi, effects, etc. I have left out the menu controls, they can remain the same. Knob count is 27, which is the same as Virus A. Button count is 17, one less than the Virus A. LED count is 53, which is 7 more than the Virus A. Notes: The "edit" knobs are (modestly) multifunctional knobs. Better than the current system in my opinion, because the function remains selected, until you change the mode of the edit knob. The currently selected function is indicated by an LED. There is no need to enter the edit menu, scroll through 180 items, and work with a tiny two-line LCD, which is already used for too many things. (TBD: the "edit" knob for the filter has only one function! I was hoping to add some functions there, to do with the formant filter, or the vocoder perhaps) This is the first time I'm sending an HTML message to the list, so I don't know if this is going to work. But I found that ASCII art was too limiting. - Ronald. Section Control LED indicators LFO Select (button) 1 2 3 Rate (knob) Wave (button) Tri Saw Square S/H S/G Amount (button + knob) Osc1/Shape1+2 Osc2/FmAmt PW1+2/CutOff1 Reso1+2/CutOff2 FltGain/Pan EnvMode (button) On Mode (button) Poly Edit (button + knob) Key Follow Tri Symmetry Trig Phase Delay Clock OSC Select (button) 1 2 Transp (knob) Detune (knob) Shape (knob) Wave/PW (knob) Edit (button + knob) Key Follow FM Amt Filt Env Amt Sync Amt Phase Init OSC common Osc1 (knob) Osc 2 (knob) Sub Osc (knob) Noise (knob) Ring (knob) Punch (knob) FILTER Select (button) 1 2 Env Amt (knob) Cutoff (knob) Resonance (knob) Mode (button) High Pass Low Pass Band Pass Notch Comb Formant Edit (button + knob) Key Follow FILTER common Balance (knob) Link (button) On Saturation (button) Light Soft Middle Hard Digital Shaper Routing (button) Serial 6 Serial 4 Parallel Split ENVELOPE Select (button) Filter Amp Attack (knob) Decay (knob) Sustain (knob) Time (knob) Release (knob) common Master Volume (knob) Definable 1 (knob) Definable 2 (knob) Key Transpose (2 buttons) +2 +1 -1 -2 X-From_: access-list-return-104-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 05:54:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Gabe" To: Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:52:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 >Would be fantastic! >But would you purchase it? 180 Controls. 2500 Dollar/Euro or so. A dozend rack spaces. Anybody else who would like it? How about a single encoder knob and LCD, and a button/led for every feature? (like the studio electronics ATC-1 except with an LCD instead of a lame LED and nice buttons instead of a cheapo membrane panel) I'd buy two... :-)X-From_: access-list-return-106-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 07:17:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 22:18:31 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Further explanation of the proposed "full control" layout of a Virus C. The "Edit" knob/button/led combination is based on the current "amount" switch for the LFOs. However, instead of having one mega-multifunctional "value" knob, I propose to place such a "value" knob right next to the "amount" button, dedicated to control the LFO only. There is one such knob/button/led combo called "Edit" in the LFO, another called "Amount", another called "Edit" in the Oscillators, and another "Edit" in the Filters. Although in my design you can access only one LFO/OSC/Filter/Envelope at a time, you get much more control in other places, suitable for live playing. You can now easily set the LFO "Edit" knob to control (for example) tri symmetry, the LFO "Amount" knob to control Osc2 pitch, the Osc "Edit" knob to control Sync Amount, and play with all these features live and simultanuously. And you can see at a glance what you are doing with each knob. And even though you can't modify both filters at the same time, the other filter is only one button press away. And of course, in the new design, there are dedicated controls for the ring modulator and noise, handy for live play, too. You have much quicker and direct access to LFO and Oscillator key follow, LFO clock sync, etc. You can indeed set up the Virus A to allow live simultaneous control of (for example) tri symmetry and LFO->Osc2 pitch, using the "Definable" knobs, but you can never see what they control in a given patch, and changing what these knobs control requires some serious menu navigation - something I'd rather not do live. And of course, in the new design, the "Definable" knobs are still there. So if you really must have control over (for example) both filter cutoffs simultaneously, you can still use the definables. - Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-107-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 07:21:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 22:23:05 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Gabe wrote: >How about a single encoder knob and LCD, and a button/led for every feature? (like the studio electronics ATC-1 except with an LCD instead of a lame LED and nice buttons instead of a cheapo membrane panel) I'd buy two... :-) That is the exact opposite of my proposal. Instead of having one mega-multifunctional knob as on the ATC, I suggest dedicated knobs for almost everything. The ATC interface may be sufficient for sound design, but is hardly ideal for live play. The ability for live play is one of the Virus' strengths. - Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-105-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 07:14:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:13:26 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.61 I dunno guys, sometimes you want to do two things at once. A single knob would drive me nuts, and everyone I know eith an ATC-1 had to buy a midi mixer. Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: "Gabe" To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: November 8, 1999 4:52:10 AM GMT Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C >Would be fantastic! >But would you purchase it? 180 Controls. 2500 Dollar/Euro or so. A dozend rack spaces. Anybody else who would like it? How about a single encoder knob and LCD, and a button/led for every feature? (like the studio electronics ATC-1 except with an LCD instead of a lame LED and nice buttons instead of a cheapo membrane panel) I'd buy two... :-) ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-108-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 10:11:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 01:11:46 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Or, instead of redesigning the whole virus, you could buy a midi-assignable knob bank and just use that. Cam At 10:18 PM 11/7/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Further explanation of the proposed "full control" layout of a Virus C. > >The "Edit" knob/button/led combination is based on the current "amount" switch >for the LFOs. However, instead of having one mega-multifunctional "value" knob, >I propose to place such a "value" knob right next to the "amount" button, dedicated to control the LFO only. There is one such knob/button/led combo called "Edit" in the LFO, another called "Amount", another called "Edit" in the >Oscillators, and another "Edit" in the Filters. > >Although in my design you can access only one LFO/OSC/Filter/Envelope at a time, >you get much more control in other places, suitable for live playing. You can now easily set the LFO "Edit" knob to control (for example) tri symmetry, the LFO "Amount" knob to control Osc2 pitch, the Osc "Edit" knob to control Sync Amount, and play with all these features live and simultanuously. And you can see at a glance what you are doing with each knob. And even though you can't modify both filters at the same time, the other filter is only one button press >away. And of course, in the new design, there are dedicated controls for the ring modulator and noise, handy for live play, too. You have much quicker and direct access to LFO and Oscillator key follow, LFO clock sync, etc. > >You can indeed set up the Virus A to allow live simultaneous control of (for example) tri symmetry and LFO->Osc2 pitch, using the "Definable" knobs, but you >can never see what they control in a given patch, and changing what these knobs >control requires some serious menu navigation - something I'd rather not do live. And of course, in the new design, the "Definable" knobs are still there. >So if you really must have control over (for example) both filter cutoffs simultaneously, you can still use the definables. > >- Ronald. > > X-From_: access-list-return-109-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 10:34:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:35:21 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal >>1. Controls for all functions! Finally. No more digging >through menus to >>change >>the rate of LFO 3. > >Would be fantastic! >But would you purchase it? 180 Controls. 2500 Dollar/Euro or so. A dozend rack spaces. Anybody else who would like it? Would LOVE it!!! Finally a real modular system again...not those tiny Doepfer things or other so called 'modular' systems. Finally some things to see on stage!!! >>2. Jacks located so that they don't prevent rack mounting. WOW!!! > >A desktop casing for this would occupy another rack space and require a different angle of the case. Use a rack blend to cover the jacks for the same >result. I've got no problems with the jacks in my rack, so WOW! :-) >>11. Much higher update rate on LFOs, so that when you steer >LFO rate close >>to >>audio range, quantisation doesn't become painfully apparent. > >Unfortunately modulation on high rate is the most power consuming feature, >including filter FM. The Virus OS, like it is, is simply not build for this. >A digital filter algorithm that gives the opportunity of an inexpensive filter FM wouldn't sound as smooth as the Virus filter. I would also like that the LFO goes faster...on my very very cheap Kawai 100F (bought for US50,-) the LFO goes so high that it becomes audible again and even goes further...I get most weird sounds out of that. It's what I miss in almost every digital synth, although I haven't heard them all. But then again I use these sounds from my older synths so it's no problem I guess. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl (hmm reminds me that I still have to send my CD to you Christoph...)X-From_: access-list-return-110-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 11:06:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 10:44:34 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: midi dump program wanted Hi! Sorry for being oftopic here. I'm looking for a win program to send large raw-sysex files to the midi-out port. It's for updating my Yamaha 03D OS. I've been searching for half an hour but I couldn't find anything. The file is too large to play from my Atari ST unfortunately... Thanks very much! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298X-From_: access-list-return-111-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 11:59:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: From: "Andrew Dick" To: Subject: RE: midi dump program wanted Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:52:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Hi, try MIDI-OX, it a sysex librarian and midi monitoring tool. I use it to store all my bulk dumps from various bits of gear. It's also invaluable for finding midi problems etc. - It's freeware. http://members.xoom.com/MIDIOX/midiox.htm Cheers, Andy andydick@gentia.com >Hi! > >Sorry for being oftopic here. I'm looking for a win program to send large raw-sysex files to the midi-out port. It's for updating my Yamaha 03D OS. I've been searching for half an hour but I couldn't find anything. The file is too large to play from my Atari ST unfortunately... > >Thanks very much! >jasper >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 > X-From_: access-list-return-112-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 12:48:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 12:48:25 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: midi dump program wanted >Hi, try MIDI-OX, it a sysex librarian and midi monitoring tool. I use it to store all my bulk dumps from various bits of gear. It's also invaluable for finding midi problems etc. - It's freeware. Thanks a lot! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298X-From_: access-list-return-113-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 16:24:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Gabe" To: Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:20:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 >>How about a single encoder knob and LCD, and a button/led for every feature? >>(like the studio electronics ATC-1 except with an LCD instead of a lame LED >>and nice buttons instead of a cheapo membrane panel) I'd buy two... :-) > >That is the exact opposite of my proposal. Instead of having one mega-multifunctional knob as on the ATC, I suggest dedicated knobs for almost >everything. The ATC interface may be sufficient for sound design, but is hardly >ideal for live play. That was exactly my point though, it'd be perfect for sound design and (hopefully) a fair bit cheaper than the regular virus, so I could afford to buy two... ;-) For those of you interested in knobs, check out the 10 control from IBK, this looks to be the answer to any knob/midi control freak's dreams... add that to your virus and you're set... http://members.aol.com/uwekeinki/d-10ctxt.htmlX-From_: access-list-return-114-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 16:29:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: noise gate type problem on Virus B? Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:30:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Yes, I have noticed this on my Virus B too! I also have noticed some of the factory presets that don't seem to play at all(sometimes they sound, but in a very distorted manner). ----- Original Message ----- From: bigw To: Access List Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 1:32 PM Subject: noise gate type problem on Virus B? >Does anyone else hear what seems to be a noise gate turning off after the envelope cycle of a note. NOTE ON the VIRUS B ONLY! very irratating and noticeable. >Weld > > X-From_: access-list-return-115-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 16:55:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:04:49 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: MW xt editor.... To: access-list@teklab.com >Was just playing around with the mWaveEdit for the Microwave2/XT =) >By far, this editor is the best synth editor for the PC that I have ever >used > Where did you get that editor, and do you know if there is a mac version? Thanks, gel-sol ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-116-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 17:45:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 08:46:28 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C I tried the URL, but it didn't work. Cam >For those of you interested in knobs, check out the 10 control from IBK, this looks to be the answer to >any knob/midi control freak's dreams... add that to your virus and you're set... >http://members.aol.com/uwekeinki/d-10ctxt.html > X-From_: access-list-return-117-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 18:37:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:36:01 -0500 (EST) From: Gabe G To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C >I tried the URL, but it didn't work. > >Cam Hmm, try http://www.native-instruments.com/0_start/index.html then click online shop, then click the link to IBKX-From_: access-list-return-119-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 19:12:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 19:08:40 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C If I remember correctly, try http://www.ibk-midi.de (or .com) Ciao, Joeri Cam wrote: >I tried the URL, but it didn't work. > >Cam > >>For those of you interested in knobs, check out the 10 control from IBK, this looks to be the answer to >>any knob/midi control freak's dreams... add that to your virus and you're set... >>http://members.aol.com/uwekeinki/d-10ctxt.html >> >> -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-120-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 8 21:13:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: stephens@pop.ricochet.net Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 11:54:14 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Ron Stephens Subject: Re: MW xt editor.... Here ya goes... http://www.robotnik.com/the_lab/ -ron At 08:04 AM 11/08/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>Was just playing around with the mWaveEdit for the Microwave2/XT =) >>By far, this editor is the best synth editor for the PC that I have ever >>used >> > >Where did you get that editor, and do you know if there is a mac version? > >Thanks, > >gel-sol > >===== > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-121-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 9 00:01:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 18:15:02 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Top 10 things Ronald likes about the new Virus C I looked into this piece guys the guy running the company seems a bit flakey and the price is very high $649 u.s. weld Cam wrote: >I tried the URL, but it didn't work. > >Cam > >>For those of you interested in knobs, check out the 10 control from IBK, this looks to be the answer to >>any knob/midi control freak's dreams... add that to your virus and you're set... >>http://members.aol.com/uwekeinki/d-10ctxt.html >> X-From_: access-list-return-122-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 9 08:25:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 02:23:27 EST Subject: Sounds To: access-list@teklab.com I am curious as to how many people have the Rob Papen signature set? I want to load up my Virus with great sounds and keep it with those for a while. I was curious as to how many of you upload new sounds a lot or not at all. Any suggestions to get the most out of the sound sets aroundm mainly for trance. Besides all this, I noticed a few single sounds being posted. How do you load up one patch and to what destination? if i don't like it, hoe can I reinstall the old patch. Can I save my current sound set via midi on my hard drive so in case I screw around too much I can get back to where I started. As of now, I haven't purchased any sound sets but have been contemplating buying one. Opinions please... thanks DanX-From_: access-list-return-124-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 9 16:10:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:10:56 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sounds >Besides all this, I noticed a few single sounds being posted. How do you load up one patch and to what destination? if i don't like it, hoe can I reinstall the old patch. Single sounds end up in the edit buffer. So you can listen to them, and if you like it, you must store it yourself by pressing the store button. If you overwrite a custom patch, and want it back, you must reload it over midi, exactly the same way as you got them in the first place. If you overwrote a factory preset, don't worry, because the read-only banks C and D contain copies of them. - Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-123-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 9 16:01:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: noise gate type problem on Virus B? Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:01:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- I'm curious if anyone at Access has a comment on this so-called noise gate on the Virus B? I went through all the factory sounds last night and noticed that it VERY noticable. I've mainly been using my own sounds in the past weeks and perhaps I've "tuned" the offending sound out in them, but on the factory sound it is VERY MUCH there??? Here's an example: mixer is very quiet. hit a note on virus the synth sound comes out(with some noise) the note dies out(the noise stays the same level) when the note is all the way gone, the noise stops Also, this is on every patch(i.e. not patches that have "noise" programmed into them) Any comment? It is not a huge problem(once in the mix with other sound or eq'd out - but I am curious to know if it is a defect in some of the unit's(including mine!). I do recall that the B has new d/a converters??? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: lauger To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 10:30 AM Subject: Re: noise gate type problem on Virus B? >Yes, I have noticed this on my Virus B too! > >I also have noticed some of the factory presets that don't seem to play at all(sometimes they sound, but in a very distorted manner). > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: bigw >To: Access List Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 1:32 PM >Subject: noise gate type problem on Virus B? > > >>Does anyone else hear what seems to be a noise gate turning off after the envelope cycle of a note. NOTE ON the VIRUS B ONLY! very irratating and noticeable. >>Weld >> >> >> > X-From_: access-list-return-125-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 9 16:29:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:54:32 +0330 (GMT+03:30) From: dimi@dds.nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Hello! Did you try to turn the 'punch' function in the edit menu off? That's a feature that adds a nice click to the beginning of a note. It's for adding more punch to sounds with a rynthmic function in your composition. Dimitri. >* From "John David Miller" > >when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each >note. i sampled the output with sound forge and, indeed, the wave is a bit >spikey at the begining. you can really tell this using a sin wave. i would >expect a sine cycle starting right at the zero crossing, but mine has a >spike. setting the VCA attack to 3-7 is a workaround, but i'm wondering >what's going on. > >is this just the way the virus works, or it mine busted? > >i can e-mail / post a way if you like. X-From_: access-list-return-126-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 9 18:37:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Sounds Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:37:13 -0800 X-Priority: 3 The Rob Papen set sounds really really nice. I just bought them, and love them. I find them to be really inspiring as I'm learning to make my own patches and learn to play the keys. Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Dgerbs@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:24 PM Subject: Sounds >I am curious as to how many people have the Rob Papen signature set? I want >to load up my Virus with great sounds and keep it with those for a while. I >was curious as to how many of you upload new sounds a lot or not at all. Any >suggestions to get the most out of the sound sets aroundm mainly for trance. >Besides all this, I noticed a few single sounds being posted. How do you load up one patch and to what destination? if i don't like it, hoe can I reinstall the old patch. Can I save my current sound set via midi on my hard >drive so in case I screw around too much I can get back to where I started. As of now, I haven't purchased any sound sets but have been contemplating buying one. Opinions please... > >thanks >Dan X-From_: access-list-return-128-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 10 09:37:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com, Tom Subject: Re: Drehbank Virus Controller Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:31:06 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:35:39 -0000, " Tom" wrote: >Is anyone using the drehbank with their virus? Whats they think of this controller box... looks ideal. I use it with my Waldorf Pulses and Nord Modular rather than the Virus. I have two cardboard templates for the functions I use most and it's mostly great. Some things aren't ideal because if you have a lot of selection switches, for example, there is no value display - however, my simple workaround is to open a Cubase MIDI Mixer which I've programmed to respond to the same controller numbers and show the values. I don't find the Virus needs too much additional control (I wish there were seperate dedicated values for each oscillator level) but I have programmed noise level and a couple of others into my Regelwerk (24 programmable sliders) for quicker access than the Virus panel. Paul Paul Nagle paul@softroom.co.uk http://www.softroom.co.uk latest CD: Lore - available from http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-129-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Nov 10 10:16:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:46:47 +0330 (GMT+03:30) From: dimi@dds.nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: regelwerk (re: Drehbank Virus Controller) WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Hello! I have a regelwerk too! Since I don't have much time this year I haven't done a lot with it yet. I once programmed the slider 1-8 to control the volume or the cut-off freq. of a patch. Meanwhile, the stepsequencer (slider 9-24) played different themes. A very nice setup fo a performance! Dimitri. the Paul Nagle schreef: >On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:35:39 -0000, " Tom" >wrote: > >>Is anyone using the drehbank with their virus? Whats they think of this controller box... looks ideal. > >I use it with my Waldorf Pulses and Nord Modular rather than the >Virus. I have two cardboard templates for the functions I use most and >it's mostly great. Some things aren't ideal because if you have a lot >of selection switches, for example, there is no value display - >however, my simple workaround is to open a Cubase MIDI Mixer which >I've programmed to respond to the same controller numbers and show the >values. >I don't find the Virus needs too much additional control (I wish there >were seperate dedicated values for each oscillator level) but I have >programmed noise level and a couple of others into my Regelwerk (24 >programmable sliders) for quicker access than the Virus panel. > >Paul >Paul Nagle paul@softroom.co.uk > http://www.softroom.co.uk > >latest CD: Lore - available from http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-131-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 11 01:42:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:49:51 +0000 From: Jason Simmons To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: ***VIRUS VISUAL EDITOR UPDATE*** *** Virus Visual Editor v1.1 is now available *** I just finished writing the new docs for version 1.1 of my Virus Editor, The new version fixes some bugs and adds a number of new features: -- Export patch as MIDI file -- Glitchy presets menu fixed -- Numerous changes to interface -- New controls added: Arpeggiator Hold LFO 3 Fade-in time Unison Detune Panorama Spread LFO 1 Trig. Phase LFO 2 Trig. Phase Filter 2 Cutoff Link Filter 1 Env. Polarity Filter 2 Env. Polarity Pitch Bend Range Up + Down Pitch Bend Scale -- Can now assign the Virus's 64 wave shapes to LFO 1 + 2 -- MIDI clock time now displays correct BPM -- Added graphic buttons for switching between Controls Page 1 + 2 -- Unison now displays correct value -- Arpeggiator Octave Range now displays correct value -- Selected MIDI output channel -- Selected OMS Input, Output, and MIDI output channel now saved in prefs file -- More default presets added Plus, I'm happy to say I have a new domain, graciously hosted by my friends at Illequipped! Go to http://exel.illequipped.com/ to download the new Virus Visual Editor v1.1! Cheers, EX|ELX-From_: access-list-return-132-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 11 09:15:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: thommenk@muenster.de Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:14:04 +0100 From: Thommen Kaspar 215971 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: I can't unsubscribe ?!?! Hi there, I have a very strange problem: I am subscribed under 2 different adresses, so I wanted to unsubscribe one of them, but it didn't work! I sent several mails to majorkomo@teklab.com with the text unsubscribe access-list kaspar@gmx.ch end in it. But it didn't work, I still recieve messages from the list. Maybe it's because GMX adds a signature to all mails? Anybody knows anything? KasparX-From_: access-list-return-133-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 11 21:45:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:05:43 +0100 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I can't unsubscribe ?!?! hi Thommen Kaspar 215971 schrieb: > >Hi there, >I have a very strange problem: I am subscribed under 2 different adresses, so I wanted to unsubscribe one of them, but it didn't work! I sent several mails to majorkomo@teklab.com with the text > >unsubscribe access-list kaspar@gmx.ch >end > >in it. But it didn't work, I still recieve messages from the list. Maybe it's because GMX adds a signature to all mails? Anybody knows anything? > >Kaspar I«m not sure, but try to put the text into the mail«s topic and text field. carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html Better (and newer) mp3-examples of my music at: http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.htmlX-From_: access-list-return-134-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 11 22:03:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: dumping in cubase To: access-list@teklab.com heyas ... anyone here use cubase?.. me and a friend are wondering how to dump single patches in cubase... all help will be appreciated:> -cyngus ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-136-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 11 23:30:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: dumping in cubase Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:43:20 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Import the midi file (file menu), set the midi port/channel, and play the midi file. Make sure Cubase is set to allow Sysex Thru (options\midi filter) is enabled (default is disabled). Once you dump the patch to the Virus, you will have to store it... Rick > >heyas ... > >anyone here use cubase?.. me and a friend are wondering how to dump single patches in cubase... > >all help will be appreciated:> > >-cyngus > >=====X-From_: access-list-return-135-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Nov 11 22:45:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:44:10 EST Subject: Re: basslineconcept homepage To: access-list@teklab.com Yeah, I'd like the beastie boys intergalactic patch please!!! dgerbs@aol.com thanksX-From_: access-list-return-137-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 00:31:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:28:39 +0100 From: Kaspar@gmx.ch Reply-To: Kaspar.Thommen@epfl.ch X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I can't unsubscribe ?!?! Guido Storek wrote: >I«m not sure, but try to put the text into the mail«s topic and text field. Hi, I don't think this will work, it has to be in the body and not in the subject. Another strange thing: I mailed to listadmin@teklab.com and immediately recieved a message that said that it couldn't deliver the message. So: Does anybody know an adress at teklab.com where I can ask to take me out of the list? KasparX-From_: access-list-return-138-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 01:32:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:17:43 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: I can't unsubscribe ?!?! See http://www.teklab.com/Internet.html for details on how to subscribe and unsubscribe. I'm sorry but the old instructions no longer work - I will update that page when I get the time. j. At 12:28 AM 11/12/99 +0100, you wrote: >Guido Storek wrote: > >>I«m not sure, but try to put the text into the mail«s topic and text field. > >Hi, >I don't think this will work, it has to be in the body and not in the subject. > >Another strange thing: I mailed to listadmin@teklab.com and immediately recieved a message that said that it couldn't deliver the message. So: Does anybody know an adress at teklab.com where I can ask to take me out of the list? > >Kaspar j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^X-From_: access-list-return-140-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 07:20:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: gatrall@pop.slip.net Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:19:17 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Simon Gatrall Subject: Re: ***VIRUS VISUAL EDITOR UPDATE*** >>Go to http://exel.illequipped.com/ to download the new Virus >Visual Editor v1.1! > >This link doesn't work... > >??? > >bob Works just fine for me... -s!monX-From_: access-list-return-139-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 07:17:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:20:03 -0800 Subject: Re: ***VIRUS VISUAL EDITOR UPDATE*** From: "Bob Frye" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 >Go to http://exel.illequipped.com/ to download the new Virus Visual Editor v1.1! This link doesn't work... ??? bobX-From_: access-list-return-141-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 10:39:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:38:33 +0100 Reply-To: "Philipp Mott" Priority: Normal Subject: Re: dumping in cubase On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:01:50 -0800 (PST), Cyngus Cyngus wrote: > >heyas ... > >anyone here use cubase?.. me and a friend are wondering how to dump single patches in cubase... Use Steinberg Studio Module and the module driver for Access Virus. Everything you need is there. flpX-From_: access-list-return-142-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 12:18:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:11:45 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Re: dumping in cubase At 13:01 11.11.99 -0800, you wrote: >heyas ... >anyone here use cubase?.. me and a friend are wondering how to dump single patches in cubase... Simply press the [ctrl] button on the Virus and step through the menus to get to the MIDI DUMP TX menu. Here you can choose whether you want to dump a Single-Patch by pressing the [store] button or Single-Bank a or b (in Multi-Mode you also can choose Multi-Bank). To dump the selected Sound or Bank record enable the track in Cubase to dump to, set the Midi-SysEx-Record-Filter (found in the options-menu) to off and press record. When the track started to record press store to start the dump in your Virus. Now all selected data will be transmitted to the selected Cubase track - and that's it! If you want to get these data again in the Virus simply press "Start" in Cubase and the Virus will receive the SysEx-data again. If you just dumped a single sound then you have to [store] it to keep it in memory. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-143-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 19:17:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:19:24 -0800 Subject: Re: ***VIRUS VISUAL EDITOR UPDATE*** From: "Bob Frye" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 just tried it again this am, and it's ok... my isp or some other element in the system musta been on holiday last night! bob ---------- >From: Simon Gatrall >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: ***VIRUS VISUAL EDITOR UPDATE*** Date: Thu, Nov 11, 1999, 10:19 PM > >>>Go to http://exel.illequipped.com/ to download the new Virus >>Visual Editor v1.1! >> >>This link doesn't work... >> >>??? >> >>bob > >Works just fine for me... > >-s!mon X-From_: access-list-return-144-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Nov 12 22:57:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:54:53 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Soundz Hi list... Try these sounds if you like. Please let me know if any do not load up properly ... it was my first try at making MIDI files from SysEx dumps. -zs Attachment converted: f2000:z-VPatches1.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (0000465A)X-From_: access-list-return-145-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 13 10:17:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:31:34 -0500 From: bigw To: Access List Subject: Update on 2.52 for the B and Robs sounds?? Hi Chrostoph any update on these two items?? weldX-From_: access-list-return-148-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 13 19:30:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:38:16 +0000 From: Jason Simmons To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: EX|EL's Songs Back Online To anyone interested: My MP3's are back online, on my site's new URL, anyone who was interested in d/l'ing some mp3's of my songs and got nothing but 404 errors, the links are back up! head to: http://exel.illequipped.com/index.html and click on the "music" link Cheers, EX|ELX-From_: access-list-return-146-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 13 16:26:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 16:21:10 +0100 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: dumping in cubase Rick Reyes schrieb: > >Import the midi file (file menu), set the midi port/channel, and play the midi file. Make sure Cubase is set to allow Sysex Thru (options\midi filter) is enabled (default is disabled). Once you dump the patch to the Virus, you will have to store it... > The Thru filters only affect data that goes into the computer«s midi input. When u enable Thru, the data recieved through the midi in will be sent to the midi out. But when u play a file, there«s nothing coming in, so... . carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html Better (and newer) mp3-examples of my music at: http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.htmlX-From_: access-list-return-147-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Nov 13 17:13:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:08:48 -0600 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: dumping in cubase To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 You are correct. I meant to say Sysex Record... (same menu Midi Filter) Rick >Rick Reyes schrieb: >> >>Import the midi file (file menu), set the midi port/channel, and play the >>midi file. Make sure Cubase is set to allow Sysex Thru (options\midi filter) >>is enabled (default is disabled). Once you dump the patch to the Virus, you >>will have to store it... >> >The Thru filters only affect data that goes into the computer«s midi input. When u enable Thru, the data recieved through the midi in will be sent to the midi out. But when u play a file, there«s nothing coming in, so... . > >carpe diem... >Guido >-- >About me, my music and my sports: >http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html Better (and newer) mp3-examples of my music at: http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.html X-From_: access-list-return-149-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 09:43:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:45:46 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Somewhat OT: Idea for a new Access Product!!!!!! Hi. I have an idea for a new project for you kids at Access to take on: I think it would be great to be able to buy a rackmount multi-effects unit that I can load my VST plugins into and use them in real time. Is such a thing possible? CamX-From_: access-list-return-150-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 10:46:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:46:02 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Idea for a new Access Product!!!!!! Hi, >Hi. I have an idea for a new project for you kids at Access to take on: I think it would be great to be able to buy a rackmount multi-effects unit that I can load my VST plugins into and use them in real time. Is such a thing possible? Nope... VST plugins = native processing, that's not DSP based. Which means it would have to be a rack mounted computer... with the latency problems etc. Just get yourself another computer, put it in a rack and run your VST plugins! :-) Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-151-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 11:20:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 05:19:53 EST Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Idea for a new Access Product!!!!!! To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << Hi. I have an idea for a new project for you kids at Access to take on: I think it would be great to be able to buy a rackmount multi-effects unit that I can load my VST plugins into and use them in real time. Is such a thing possible? >> Yes, its called a soundcard ;-) Open Cubase and create an effects loop, preferably with a decent soundcard such as an Event Layla. - Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-159-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 00:33:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:02:51 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Idea for a new Access Product!!!!!! At 5:19 AM -0500 on 14.11.1999 ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: Open Cubase and create an effects loop, preferably with a decent soundcard such as an Event Layla. Then use your digital mixer and delay all other channels except for the ones you route through the vst with some milliseconds to make up for the delay vst introduces. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-152-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 16:54:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: pokeweed@pipeline.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:00:33 -0500 Subject: Re: EX|EL's Songs Back Online OT Priority: normal Hey EX|EL, just curious but, does your nick come from the 808 State album of the same name? >To anyone interested: > >My MP3's are back online, on my site's new URL, anyone who was interested in d/l'ing some mp3's of my songs and got nothing but 404 errors, the links are back up! > >head to: >http://exel.illequipped.com/index.html and click on the "music" link > >Cheers, >EX|EL X-From_: access-list-return-153-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 19:17:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:16:02 +0100 From: John Machielsen Reply-To: culthero@swankarmy.net Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com, zs@yahoo-inc.com Subject: Re: Soundz Zack, 3 sounds just won't dump into my Virus. i think there's something wrong with them. (and i do use 2.52 and all Cubase settings are correct) -Z-fePuddn -Z-GDEp -Z-Wetthing But what i must say is that the Bassrip patch and the aYe patch are damn well awesome. great work man !! greetings, John MachielsenX-From_: access-list-return-154-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 22:51:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Chris Gentry To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus for sale Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:53:42 -0600 I'm unfortunatly having to sell my Virus for those oh so wonderful financial reasons. It was purchased in March and hasn't left my house. I'm asking $850 plus shipping. I live in Alabama and will only sell to someone in the U.S. If anyone is interested please e-mail me. Thanks, ChrisX-From_: access-list-return-155-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 23:21:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:20:24 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Soundz X-Originating-IP: 128.100.126.62 Hey, I also found problems with those patches. I'm on 2.53 as well. I already used two of your sounds in one song. I admit I changed them a bit, as I always do, but their essence was inspiring especially with nice fast arp's (at least it was to my taste that way). They were AYE, and Myst#. I can't waid for more. Did anyone try my patches? Did they just suck so there was nothing to say? Oh well. Peaceout Peter ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-156-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 23:39:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:39:25 +0100 From: John Machielsen Reply-To: culthero@swankarmy.net Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Soundz your TB303H patch is wicked....it banged my speakers...haha. and woke up my girlfriend ..heh. so that's good.. i'm gone use it though in a song, along that 303 bass (tweaked a bit though) that the virus has in bank B i think. well mine has it anyways.. greetz, John Machielsen Peter told us : >Did anyone try my patches? Did they just suck so there was nothing to say? Oh well. >Peaceout >Peter ps : 2.53 ?? i thought it was 2.52 ? typo.X-From_: access-list-return-157-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 23:44:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:44:00 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Soundz X-Originating-IP: 128.100.126.62 Ooops, heh, typo. (No really guys, I'm an insider, and I have OS 2.53 with the added 1.4 seconds sampling time, unfortunately it won't be realeased to the rest of you til the virus C is finished) Peaceout Peter ------Original Message------ From: John Machielsen To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: November 14, 1999 10:39:25 PM GMT Subject: Re: Soundz ps : 2.53 ?? i thought it was 2.52 ? typo? ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-158-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Nov 14 23:45:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: 14 Nov 99 15:49:12 MST From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Re: Soundz] Anybody who here is using Logic Audio to dump it into virus? i tried almost everything I know(which is not much :), and I made sure no sysex filter was on, etc. And I saw a symbol showing up on my virus, right next to the name as I was dumping. However, there seem to be no sound change on my vrius. The patch that I was on was still the same... hmm..why is that? any help would be appreciated. thx. Zi Yue John Machielsen wrote: your TB303H patch is wicked....it banged my speakers...haha. and woke up my girlfriend ..heh. so that's good.. i'm gone use it though in a song, along that 303 bass (tweaked a bit though) that the virus has in bank B i think. well mine has it anyways.. greetz, John Machielsen Peter told us : >Did anyone try my patches? Did they just suck so there was nothing to say? Oh well. >Peaceout >Peter ps : 2.53 ?? i thought it was 2.52 ? typo. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1X-From_: access-list-return-161-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 03:31:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:30:02 EST Subject: Mixers To: trinity@harmony-central.com, access-list@teklab.com Hey boys and girls, I have a question about mixers!!! For starters, I don't have one, and I need one. I have been looking at the new 16 channel Mackie mixer with built in effects. Any opinions. I was thinking about digital but it's a pretty penny so I think it's gonna be ether a 1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 with efx? What are your thoughts. thanks danX-From_: access-list-return-162-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 03:57:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:12:02 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers if you want digital get the yamaha o1v if analog and you can afford it, the mackie, if not try behringer. bets weld Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >Hey boys and girls, I have a question about mixers!!! For starters, I don't have one, and I need one. I have been looking at the new 16 channel Mackie mixer with built in effects. Any opinions. I was thinking about digital but it's a pretty penny so I think it's gonna be ether a 1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 with efx? What are your thoughts. > >thanks >danX-From_: access-list-return-163-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 04:22:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:19:27 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hello, >if analog and you can afford it, the mackie, if not try behringer. If you want crap sound & design, try Behringer - the model I checked had several things wrong with it. Even though they're lots cheaper, you're not getting value. >>1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 with efx? Does the 1602 have the nice XDR pre-amps? How many aux sends? If you want cheap and are mixing in/ with your computer, you could use a 1202 VLZ-Pro which has pots instead of faders. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-164-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 04:22:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:21:29 EST Subject: Re: Mixers To: access-list@teklab.com i have a behringer eurorack....28 ins 4 outs nice eq's, i call it my mackie killer.....X-From_: access-list-return-165-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 05:15:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:14:40 EST Subject: Re: Mixers To: access-list@teklab.com, Dgerbs@aol.com In a message dated 11/14/99 8:31:31 PM, Dgerbs@aol.com writes: >Hey boys and girls, I have a question about mixers!!! For starters, I don't have one, and I need one. I have been looking at the new 16 channel Mackie mixer with built in effects. Any opinions. I was thinking about digital but it's a pretty penny so I think it's gonna be ether a 1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 with efx? What are your thoughts. You may want to consider the Yamaha 01V. If cost is a factor, it is possible to find one used. -MarshallX-From_: access-list-return-167-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 06:27:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com cc: trinity@harmony-central.com Subject: Re: Mixers I don't know, if I were you I'd go with a dedicated FX processor and one of the VLZs from Mackie. I've got the 1202 and the 1604 and they rule... Moho On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >Hey boys and girls, I have a question about mixers!!! For starters, I don't have one, and I need one. I have been looking at the new 16 channel Mackie mixer with built in effects. Any opinions. I was thinking about digital but it's a pretty penny so I think it's gonna be ether a 1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 with efx? What are your thoughts. > >thanks >dan X-From_: access-list-return-168-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 09:13:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:53:15 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: Mixers >If you want crap sound & design, try Behringer ive never had any trouble with my behringer eurorack. micX-From_: access-list-return-166-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 06:11:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "ruthless?!?!" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:18:12 -0800 X-Priority: 3 i just bought the mackie 1402 vlz-pro yesterday actually. the biggest complaint is although it has 14 imputs, 8 of them are stereo only giving you 6 single, ungrouped inputs. and only those six have a trim on them. it gets kinda tuff to get all the levels right when you are running six from the virus, 4 from a korg, and two from a drum machine. justin -----Original Message----- From: Dgerbs@aol.com >Hey boys and girls, I have a question about mixers!!! For starters, I don't >have one, and I need one. I have been looking at the new 16 channel Mackie mixer with built in effects. Any opinions. I was thinking about digital but >it's a pretty penny so I think it's gonna be ether a 1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 with efx? What are your thoughts. > >thanks >dan X-From_: access-list-return-169-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 09:34:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:32:36 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: calling up a part Hi, I was wondering if this is possible to call up a certain part of a multi midi-wise.What I would like to use this for is when using the Virus live and you want to tweak lets say a pad sound and 2 minutes later a bass sound, then you would have to change to another part in your multi.Can you do this partchange in a multi with a midiparameter, so you always will be tweaking the right part ? greetings, StevenX-From_: access-list-return-170-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 10:05:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: 15 Nov 99 02:05:39 MST From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Re: Mixers] Hmm, has anybody tried or have a roland v3100? or v3100pro? or promix from yamaha? they all look pretty ill, except very expensive for my blood (a student). :) what about mixing on ur computer? anybody have any experience with that? I have a yamaha sw1000xg sound card, anybody have that or used that to do mixing and apply effects? let me know. thx. Zi Yue Marzzz@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/14/99 8:31:31 PM, Dgerbs@aol.com writes: >Hey boys and girls, I have a question about mixers!!! For starters, I don't >have one, and I need one. I have been looking at the new 16 channel Mackie mixer with built in effects. Any opinions. I was thinking about digital but it's a pretty penny so I think it's gonna be ether a 1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 with efx? What are your thoughts. You may want to consider the Yamaha 01V. If cost is a factor, it is possible to find one used. -Marshall ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1X-From_: access-list-return-171-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 11:28:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:25:19 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hello, >i have a behringer eurorack....28 ins 4 outs nice eq's, i call it my mackie killer..... Didn't audition any large Behringer. Maybe the pre's are better on the desk, but I expect the Mackie XDR pre's are still a couple of notches better. The small Behringer had wooden sound even with a single line-level input. I wasn't impressed. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-172-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 11:43:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Thomas Hendriksen To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Mixers Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:41:35 +0100 Hi there fellas, Don't you think the sound of Behringer mixers is a bit "metallic", I've had two euroracks and I have to say that I choose to buy a FX16 from soundcraft it's even integrated with very nice Lexicon effects, and the sound is more "pure" compared to Behringer mixers, or is it just my opinion. What about the new breed of mixers "the digital" ones, do you know how they are to work with? I haven't had the possibility to test one out yet. Cheers, /MrG! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Whitmore [mailto:thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz] Sent: 15. november 1999 11:25 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers Hello, >i have a behringer eurorack....28 ins 4 outs nice eq's, i call it my mackie killer..... Didn't audition any large Behringer. Maybe the pre's are better on the desk, but I expect the Mackie XDR pre's are still a couple of notches better. The small Behringer had wooden sound even with a single line-level input. I wasn't impressed. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-173-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 12:12:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:11:01 +0100 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers bigw schreef: >if you want digital get the yamaha o1v >if analog and you can afford it, the mackie, if not try behringer. I have thought about mixers for about a half year. In the end I have chosen the 01V. My second choice was the Fx16 from Spirit. The warmth from the analog mixer was just a little bit better. But the features, price quality, eq and effects of the Yamaha made me choose the 01V. The lag of warmth in sound i compensate by using the option I/O from the Yamaha. This way, the signal stays digital and is converted in my Tascam 8-track (Much better DA-Converters.) Digital is coming up strongly and analog mixers WILL be on earth for a long time, but in the end digital will win. (i think). Good luck with your choice and if your going digital, do not choose the Roland models. Ive worked with them. Martijn BaanX-From_: access-list-return-174-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 15:00:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:01:59 -0400 From: BŅæ Reply-To: synthnut@cyburban.com Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers I'm using 2- Behringer Eurodesk MX 8000's.....48 individual channels..I had the Mackie 24 channel board....The Behringer is cleaner and has a better EQ....The new Mackie VLZ Pro series are supposed to be really nice....Good mic pre's and all....X-From_: access-list-return-175-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 15:13:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:12:57 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: OT: Re: Mixers Hi, >Don't you think the sound of Behringer mixers is a bit "metallic", I think the Behringer sounds rather "closed" when compared to the Neve VR I worked on last week! :-))) The clou: the Behringer was mine, the Neve wasn't.... ;-) The quality of the Behringers is excellent when you consider the price... but you can't expect it to sound like a "big" desk. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish ListX-From_: access-list-return-176-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 15:49:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:50:49 -0400 From: Qmæ Reply-To: synthnut@cyburban.com Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Re: Mixers What a wonderfull world that would be if we could all afford a rack full of Neve pre's......might just as well through in a couple of Apogee convertors while we're at it.......X-From_: access-list-return-179-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 17:59:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Tom" From: "Tom" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:18:22 -0000 X-Priority: 3 I use a Behringer Eurodesk 32/8/2A. It does the job well. No complaints here. And probably the best value desks going EVER. Although i must admit that the Pre's can be noisy when turned right up but aren't all pre-amps on desks?? I just have all my synths, samplers etc turned to about 3 o'clock... and alls fine. I'm not keen on digital desks myself. They really lack the straight forwardness and 'hand-on' of an anlogue desk. What these companies should do is make a digital desk with dedicated EQ and aux knobs... then put the extra knob in for all the advanced dynamics stuff. T. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 2:30 AM Subject: Mixers >Hey boys and girls, I have a question about mixers!!! For starters, I don't >have one, and I need one. I have been looking at the new 16 channel Mackie >mixer with built in effects. Any opinions. I was thinking about digital but >it's a pretty penny so I think it's gonna be ether a 1402 VLZ-pro or a 1602 >with efx? What are your thoughts. > >thanks >dan X-From_: access-list-return-177-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 16:36:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:35:45 -0600 X-Priority: 3 I got great mileage out of my Eurorack 2804. I did sell it in favor of an O1v, which is my baby... Rick > >>If you want crap sound & design, try Behringer > >ive never had any trouble with my behringer eurorack. > >mic > X-From_: access-list-return-178-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 17:50:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Bart Muskala" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:47:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi, I must agree with Joeri. For its' price it sounds great. I'm very glad I've got it. And it certainly doesn't sound metallic. And indeed Joeri : the Behringer WAS your mixer, now it's mine ! :-) Greetz, Bart >Hi, > >>Don't you think the sound of Behringer mixers is a bit "metallic", > >I think the Behringer sounds rather "closed" when compared to the Neve VR I >worked on last week! :-))) >The clou: the Behringer was mine, the Neve wasn't.... ;-) > >The quality of the Behringers is excellent when you consider the price... but >you can't expect it to sound like a "big" desk. > >Ciao, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm > >http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List X-From_: access-list-return-180-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 18:06:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:17:44 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers Im sorry but i cant agree with your opinion on Behringer EQs . They make a big "Phasenschweinerei" (= german word for screwing up phases???) That means that open EQs causes the frequencies to influence each other in an unhappy way . This again means it isnt mono compatible , which you can hear very good in a kind of comb filter effect when you hear the EQued song in mono . But that are only my 2 c. Im using a behringer rackmixer too by the way (but without EQs) Oli "BńĄ" schrieb: >I'm using 2- Behringer Eurodesk MX 8000's.....48 individual channels..I had the Mackie 24 channel board....The Behringer is cleaner and has a better EQ....The new Mackie VLZ Pro series are supposed to be really nice....Good mic pre's and all....X-From_: access-list-return-181-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 19:37:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:35:20 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers >If you want cheap and are mixing in/ with your computer, you could use a 1202 VLZ-Pro which has pots instead of faders. yup ... I've got two of them chained together to make a big 22 channel mixer. Mixer2's Main OUT (XLR) to Mixer1's Ch 12 IN (TRS). Mackie stuff is the best value going... -zsX-From_: access-list-return-182-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Nov 15 19:40:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:39:08 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Soundz >Zack, 3 sounds just won't dump into my Virus. i think there's something wrong with them. >(and i do use 2.52 and all Cubase settings are correct) > >-Z-fePuddn >-Z-GDEp >-Z-Wetthing oh no! those are my three favorites!!! I'll re-post them tonight. >But what i must say is that the Bassrip patch and the aYe patch are damn well awesome. >great work man !! cool thanks!X-From_: access-list-return-183-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 00:23:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:21:59 EST Subject: Re: Mixers To: access-list@teklab.com thanks for your reply. I don't get it though? you run six mono outs from your virus? Don't you want it in stereo? I was thinking of routing three stereo outs from the virus into a mixer, one stereo out from my trinity and two or three stereo outs from my 505. Don't you want all your sounds to go out in stereo? Maybe I'm missing something but that seems right to me. Please explain your setup. The 1402 has four stereo inputs which is nice. the CFX series all have two stero inputs. thanks danX-From_: access-list-return-184-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 00:29:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:27:22 EST Subject: Re: Mixers To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 11/15/99 12:27:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, dob@kiva.net writes: >I don't know, if I were you I'd go with a dedicated FX processor and one >of the VLZs from Mackie. I've got the 1202 and the 1604 and they rule... > >Moho > Which FX processors do you use?X-From_: access-list-return-185-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 00:34:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:34 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hello everybody, For a mic pre-amp there's more to quality than merely a low noise floor. We didn't do measurements, just compared vocals (later line signals) through the two mixers. I'm not a pro recording engineer, have no golden ears certificate, and we tested with a US$ 100 AKG microphone. So you don't need the best of everything to derive benefit. I haven't tested the Yamaha 01V mixers. Pros say they're a good package with slightly mediocre mic pre-amps. Seem to be excellent bang-per-buck and a good way of avoiding DAW limitations, if used with some kind of lightpipe or digital multi-channel card. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-186-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 01:54:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:53:31 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Can somebody help this guy? X-Originating-IP: 128.100.212.156 My Virus is F*&ked up! Help... From: sjs420@hotmail.com Date: 15-Nov-99 Some one please help! Recently when ever I start to play my Virus, I get say 4 or 5 MIDI notes out and then it starts making this crazy low level LFO kinda sound in the background. This happens regardless of the patch that is running and will continue to make the sound for quite some time, corresponding to the number of notes I played into it. The sound is also affected by some knob movements and transpose. I have loaded the new OS to no avail. If anyone has any ideas PLEASE let me know. Shawn sjs420@hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-188-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 02:55:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:54:48 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers >Which FX processors do you use? I have a Lexicon MPX100 (~ $225USD) and an Alesis MidiVerb IV (~ $225 USD). Both are nice for the money. The Lex sounds better, but the Alesis has more control over the FX. The Lex has more MIDI sync options with its delays and reverb pre-delay than the Alesis. I'm pretty happy with both of them -- they're not bad for the cheapest rackmount FX money can buy. =zsX-From_: access-list-return-189-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 02:58:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:57:02 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Soundz >Did anyone try my patches? hey Peter ... yeah- your 303 patch is *very* well constructed. It's taken me a few days to realize this, but it really cuts through almost any mix. Beautiful farting, quacking, burping 303 quality... kudos! -zsX-From_: access-list-return-191-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 03:21:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:17:24 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi Dan, >thanks for your reply. I don't get it though? you run six mono outs from your virus? Don't you want it in stereo? I was thinking of routing three stereo outs from the virus into a mixer, one stereo out from my trinity and two or three stereo outs from my 505. The purpose of multiple outputs is to separate sounds for varying EQ & effect treatments. Running them into a mixer as stereo pairs obviously halves the number of separate treatments which can be applied. The best tradeoff depends on the song but can involve some stereo & some mono. Mono sounds can be placed in the stereo field using the pan control of a mixer. It is not necessary, probably not desirable, for all musical elements to be stereo. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-190-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 03:18:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:17:28 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: EX|EL's Songs Back Online dude! your shit is *tight*! how long have you been doing music? what other equipment are you using? -zs Jason Simmons wrote: > >To anyone interested: > >My MP3's are back online, on my site's new URL, anyone who was interested in d/l'ing some mp3's of my songs and got nothing but 404 errors, the links are back up! > >head to: >http://exel.illequipped.com/index.html and click on the "music" link > >Cheers, >EX|ELX-From_: access-list-return-193-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 07:16:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:15:48 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >> >Which FX processors do you use? > I currently use a Korg AM8000R. It's great, full MIDI control, lots of knobs on the front, 3 expression pedal inputs, and great sound. BUT, I can't wait to get my hands on one of those new Boss VF-1s... MohoX-From_: access-list-return-192-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 06:13:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "ruthless?!?!" To: Subject: Re: Mixers Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:19:31 -0800 X-Priority: 3 you have to understand that i really dont have the time to focus on which patch gets what output. if i make a sound that i like, i like it because it sounds good out in mono. the stereo inputs just suck because they dont have a trim on them. everything else does. i just think its more difficult to set their levels since it lacks that. justin -----Original Message----- From: Dgerbs@aol.com >thanks for your reply. I don't get it though? you run six mono outs from your virus? Don't you want it in stereo? I was thinking of routing three stereo outs from the virus into a mixer, one stereo out from my trinity >and two or three stereo outs from my 505. Don't you want all your sounds to >go out in stereo? Maybe I'm missing something but that seems right to me. Please explain your setup. The 1402 has four stereo inputs which is nice. the CFX series all have two stero inputs. > >thanks dan X-From_: access-list-return-194-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 10:39:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:40:51 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mixers Hi! >Mono sounds can be placed in the stereo field using the pan control of a mixer. It is not necessary, probably not desirable, for all musical elements to be stereo. I've got outputs 1-4 configured as stereo channels and 5-6 mono. I mainly use the mono channels for bass sounds. They often need a bit of extra compression and eq'ing and you can better use bass sounds in mono because of vinyl cutting and all that... jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298X-From_: access-list-return-195-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 11:58:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: 3.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:57:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Mixers? Read the new features on the Access homepage !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Rob Ps. The new RP sounds are not the Signature Sounds but NEW material.X-From_: access-list-return-196-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 12:16:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: To: Subject: Re: 3.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:10:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 And what about VIRUS MkI? Is the 2.52 last system for MkI or come some features from 3.0(B/KB) in 3.0(VIRUS A??MkI??)? ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Papen To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 11:57 AM Subject: Re: 3.0 > >Read the new features on the Access homepage !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >:) X-From_: access-list-return-199-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 12:39:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Re: 3.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:34:22 +0100 So, here we are. I am very sorry to hear that all this new features will be exclusively available for the new virus b/kb. I could live with 12 voices instead of 24, but I would like to see the rest of the features for my virus a. Perhaps Access Music should think about a hardware upgrade from virus a to virus b. I would definitely go for it. Any comments? TL-BeeX-From_: access-list-return-197-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 12:36:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: thommenk@muenster.de Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:35:32 +0100 From: Thommen Kaspar 215971 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 3.0 Rob Papen wrote: >Mixers? > >Read the new features on the Access homepage !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >:) > >Rob > >Ps. The new RP sounds are not the Signature Sounds but NEW material. Oh my God!!! 24 Voices... 82 Effects... Phaser... Chorus per Part... 4 (!!) Oscs... Env Follower... ...and I only got a Virus A !! So, Access, are you thinking about implementing some of the new features into a 3.0 for the "A"? The "B" seems to have only 1.33 as much processing power as the "A" (because until now its 12 voices <-> 16 voices), so it would still give me 18 Voices with the same features on the "A", right? KasparX-From_: access-list-return-198-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 12:38:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: thommenk@muenster.de Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:37:43 +0100 From: Thommen Kaspar 215971 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Upgrade A->B Hi, I'm wondering if Access is planning to do a hardware upgrade from the Virus A to Virus B or even a complete exchange of the units for a adequate price...?? KasparX-From_: access-list-return-200-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 12:53:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:52:32 +0100 X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Thommen Kaspar 215971 schrieb: > >Hi, >I'm wondering if Access is planning to do a hardware upgrade from the Virus A to Virus B or even a complete exchange of the units for a adequate price...?? > >Kaspar Ok.So tell my why should access do this? As customer friendly as the access guys are,this is very uneconomic! But, it`s a try.......Good Luck Stay Fresh jens w.X-From_: access-list-return-201-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 13:01:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:16:17 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 3.0--christoph please dont forget the random mode!!!! : ) 4 osc....woow!! weld Boehm Thomas-Lars wrote: >So, here we are. >I am very sorry to hear that all this new features will be exclusively available for the new virus b/kb. >I could live with 12 voices instead of 24, but I would like to see the rest of the features for my virus a. >Perhaps Access Music should think about a hardware upgrade from virus a to virus b. >I would definitely go for it. > >Any comments? >TL-BeeX-From_: access-list-return-202-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 13:33:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "cybie" To: Subject: FS: VIRUS Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:34:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal For Sale: Access Virus Synth $800. USA only. see http://www.bioroid.com/forsale.htm for more details/other gear. email bioroid@bioroid.com if interestedX-From_: access-list-return-203-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 13:46:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-To: access-list@teklab.com User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:45:33 +0100 Subject: Re: 3.0 From: Marc Schlaile To: CC: hi tl-bee, the product life cycle of the virus "a" was very long in comparison to the devices of most competitors. by the time, the vocoder, the modulation matrix, bank c and d (+256 sounds) and many more features were added free of any cost. i don't think a hardware swap/upgrade would be a good solution for anybody as the motherboard and the chassis, in other words -everything- would have to be swapped. the most cost effective way is to sell the "a". please keep in mind that not only oscillators take processing power away. so, even if the "a" would be equipped with some of the new features, the polyphony would raise down (at least when it comes to e.g. the phaser or analog boost feature). kind regards, marc ps: any music store should be capable of doing a swap by buying your "old" virus. conditions shouldn't be to bad as it still is a great device! _________________________________________________________ Marc Schlaile Creative Director BabylonWaves Music _________________________________________________________ >Von: bigw >Antworten an: access-list@teklab.com >Datum: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:16:17 -0500 >An: access-list@teklab.com >Betreff: Re: 3.0--christoph > >>So, here we are. >>I am very sorry to hear that all this new features will be exclusively available for the new virus b/kb. >>I could live with 12 voices instead of 24, but I would like to see the rest of the features for my virus a. >>Perhaps Access Music should think about a hardware upgrade from virus a to virus b. >>I would definitely go for it. >> >>Any comments? >>TL-BeeX-From_: access-list-return-204-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 14:26:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: akyuz@mimoza.netas.com.tr Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:28:17 +0200 From: Tugrul Akyuz Organization: NETAS To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Music Shop > I'm living in Turkey, My friend will go to United State. Here, he will try to find Virus B for me . Do you know the adress of a music shop in Washington, and in NewYork that sell VirusB. Thanks in advance Tugrul Akyuz.X-From_: access-list-return-207-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 16:44:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:25:52 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B >Ok.So tell my why should access do this? As customer friendly as the access guys are,this is very uneconomic! But, it`s a try.......Good Luck Because they can't afford not to. Access' reputation is *built* on their reputation of support, word of mouth from users delighted with continuous upgrades. Leaving the majority of Virus owners without an upgrade path, will leave the majority of Virus owners completely alienated and pissed. Can Access afford to lose their reputation? - Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-206-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 16:13:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 3.0 >> >>Read the new features on the Access homepage !!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >>:) Well,... goodbye Supernova!... MohoX-From_: access-list-return-210-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 16:50:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: oups... Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:34:44 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Reply-To: skujawa@mail.emagic.de >heya< >OS3.0 is only available for the Virus b / kb. verstehe... Dann bin ich wohl raus aus der Nummer, oder hast Du noch einen VirusB rumstehen? :) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager and Betatest Coordinator (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH phone: +49 (0)4101 495-324X-From_: access-list-return-214-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:15:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: oups... Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:59:47 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Reply-To: skujawa@mail.emagic.de >heya< sorry With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager and Betatest Coordinator (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbHX-From_: access-list-return-211-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:03:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:59:49 +0100 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B >>Ok.So tell my why should access do this? As customer friendly as the access guys are,this is very uneconomic! But, it`s a try.......Good Luck > >Because they can't afford not to. Access' reputation is *built* on their reputation of support, word of mouth from users delighted with continuous upgrades. Leaving the majority of Virus owners without an upgrade path, will leave the majority of Virus owners completely alienated and pissed. Can Access afford to lose their reputation? Oh dear. Get real, folks! This is not about adding something, like a voice expansion board. The Virus B is a different piece of hardware. If you buy a car or a TV and eventually next year's model is out, you can't go to the maufacturer, saying "take it back, now I want the new one". Usually you sell the old one and buy the new one. Obviously, it is sad for those who bought the Virus A just a few weeks ago. But, although I feel for those people, that's life. It's much the same as if you buy a brand X synth, and 4 weeks later you discover that you like the new brand Y synth better. You always have the risk of having made the wrong decision. Btw, apparently you bought the Virus A because it gave you enough of a synth for your money. And now it's not becoming useless - it's still a damn good synth after all... If they had painted the Virus B purple and called it something completely different, nobody would have ever started talking about hardware upgrades. Maybe it's because of Access's habit of free software updates, that people tend to expect they won't never again have to pay to participate in technical progress. ChristianX-From_: access-list-return-219-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 18:00:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:00:13 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Christian Hofmann wrote: >This is not about adding something, like a voice expansion board. The Virus B is a different piece of hardware. If you buy a car or a TV and eventually next year's model is out, you can't go to the maufacturer, saying "take it back, now I want the new one". Usually you sell the old one and buy the new one. I didn't say that the hardware upgrade must be free, but a trade-in would help keep customers tied to the brand. In regard to your own example, most car manufacturers offer a trade-in option. If I'd have to sell my Virus A to get a third oscillator, without a trade-in policy, I'll be looking closely at the Supernova I/II, and god knows what else will come out over the next three months (AN2X? JP1616?). >If they had painted the Virus B purple and called it something completely different, nobody would have ever started talking about hardware upgrades. Who cares about purple? Now if Access had redesigned the controls to accomodate for the larger interior, ie make LFO 3 (and now OSC 3) available on the front panel instead of through a menu, the Virus B would have been a lot more attractive to me. But with the Virus B 3.0, the internal hardware has been updated, the operating system has been updated, but the face panel is virtually identical to the earliest Virus from X years ago. BTW there's something ironic here: a few weeks ago, Access asked me permission to include some of my patches in the new factory set. Little did I know that I would not be able to see my own creations in their new context! - Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-212-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:11:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Richard Wakelin To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: 3.0 (moving a bit off topic) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:12:47 -0000 The Virus b/kb + OS3, certainly do sound wonderful, but Novation et al aren't going to stand still either. For those of you who haven't seen it: http://www.novationusa.com/ ... follow links to: Products/Supernova II Keyboard Specs as yet undisclosed, but superficially (how to put this...) a stunning knob-count. I suspect several manufacturers are holding back to try and launch the killer (modelling) machine for 2000. My guesses would be Supernova II to be released, Nord 3, Roland to stop dragging its heals and release a revamped (16 part, 20+ poly and maybe modelled drums for that all important "groove" badging) JP8000. Korg - I'm not so sure, Z1, Triton... maybe they have different plans. Likewise Yamaha AN2x(?) probably not with the expansion philosophy of they new products and the CS6x only launched this autumn... well it's fun to speculate. I do think all the big payers will have shown their cards by end of February (Winter Namm), then I'll be considering my next purchase. What is interesting is that when a box is released these days it hasn't reached it's full potential, OS upgrades have brought about substantial improvements over the spec you parted with your cash for (for both Virus and (Super)Nova). I think one of the major criteria for buying a new box (other than spec at time of purchase) will be support - I've heard about bugs in Z1, EX5 and Q... have they been fixed? Access have scored highly in my eyes by releasing a machine with few flaws at the outset and then adding major features through its lifetime. Rich Currently using: Prophecy, K5000s and A3000, but looking out for something "knobby". -----Original Message----- From: robotfarm@holden.stefani.com [mailto:robotfarm@holden.stefani.com] Sent: 16 November 1999 16:30 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 3.0 On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Moho Disco wrote: > > > > > > Read the new features on the Access homepage !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > :) > > Well,... goodbye Supernova!... > > Moho > > No doubt. I had actually stumbled across the feature list before it was linked in by snooping around their website but my mailer was down, preventing me from spilling the beans. Anyway, that is the same thing I thought: poor novation! I admit that the Nova had me a bit interested(though I went ahead and bought the virus anyway without knowing about 3.0). But now! Please! The virus is really twice the synth for the same money!!! If only the virus had user appregiator patterns - the one feature I've wanted for sooo long :( Other than that, the nova, supernova and jp8080 just can't compete (though I sometimes feel like I can't get those "roland strings" out of the virus(though to some people roland strings just mean crappy sound fed through a monster chorus(car (cdr (car (car(sorry_a_bad_lisp_joke-all_these_parenthesis))))))). But I can't wait. Any word on how long until it is released? As I said before, I lost all my mail from yesterday so I'm afriad I missed out on the initial announcement and excitement. I would love it if someone could forward me any posts from the access team. now i just need my mpc2000xl + future retro 777 and i'll be happy. i promise! -Jack X-From_: access-list-return-205-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 16:11:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:14:51 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Music Shop On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Tugrul Akyuz wrote: >> > >I'm living in Turkey, >My friend will go to United State. Here, he will try to find Virus B for me . Do you know the adress of a music shop in Washington, and in NewYork that sell VirusB. > Are you talking about Washington State(the state way over on the other side of the country near the pacific ocean) or Washington D.C.(the city close to New York)? If you are going to washington state, you can get one at the seattle guitar center. That is where I bought mine. In New York there is a guitar center in queens. Go to www.guitarcenter.com for more info. However, I would MAKE SURE YOU CALL THEM FIRST AND TELL THEM YOU WANT A VIRUS!!! They don't always have them in stock - either sold out or some stores might not carry the virus and have to transfer it from another store. It should cost you $1200. There are other stores that probably deserve your business more than guitar center, but I do not know of them since I do not live in either of the areas you are going to. I mention guitar center mainly because it is a nation-wide chain and should be able to get you what you want if you give them some advance notice. Also, they will match prices so make sure they give you a price of around $1200-$1250 USD. You could also just go to www.8thstreet.com and buy one from them throught the mail http://www.8thstreet.com/catalog_type.asp?ProductType=Synthesizershttp://www.8thstreet.com/catalog_type.asp?ProductType=Synthesizers They also say that they ship overseas. Good Luck! -JackX-From_: access-list-return-208-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 16:26:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:29:36 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 3.0 On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Moho Disco wrote: >>> >>>Read the new features on the Access homepage !!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>>:) > >Well,... goodbye Supernova!... > >Moho > > No doubt. I had actually stumbled across the feature list before it was linked in by snooping around their website but my mailer was down, preventing me from spilling the beans. Anyway, that is the same thing I thought: poor novation! I admit that the Nova had me a bit interested(though I went ahead and bought the virus anyway without knowing about 3.0). But now! Please! The virus is really twice the synth for the same money!!! If only the virus had user appregiator patterns - the one feature I've wanted for sooo long :( Other than that, the nova, supernova and jp8080 just can't compete (though I sometimes feel like I can't get those "roland strings" out of the virus(though to some people roland strings just mean crappy sound fed through a monster chorus(car (cdr (car (car(sorry_a_bad_lisp_joke-all_these_parenthesis))))))). But I can't wait. Any word on how long until it is released? As I said before, I lost all my mail from yesterday so I'm afriad I missed out on the initial announcement and excitement. I would love it if someone could forward me any posts from the access team. now i just need my mpc2000xl + future retro 777 and i'll be happy. i promise! -JackX-From_: access-list-return-213-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:14:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: ON TECHNOLOGY From: r.lindner@on.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:32:47 +0100 Subject: Re: 3.0 I'm hoping access will continue supporting the original Virus e.g. by adding one or two nice new features that did'nt take much processing power.... RudolfX-From_: access-list-return-216-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:38:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:33:54 EST Subject: Re: Music Shop To: access-list@teklab.com hi, Also try Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center near DC (www.wmcworld.com). They are actually located in Wheaton, MD which is very close...and if you're really desperate, try Rogue Music (www.roguemusic.com) in NY. - shawnX-From_: access-list-return-217-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:44:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:34:50 +0100 (MET) From: Kanou Ame To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: 3.0 ! X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.132] X-Flags: 0001 hallolo i d give 6 voices of my virus a for that new features! isn t it possible to give us a last update? for those who can renounce to 6 voices or anything like that? i think the 3.0 would look better than 2.52... {sorry trying to get few last features *g*} i understand that the new one so called b version has got lots of more power! but i would give you six voices... bye kanou -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.netX-From_: access-list-return-209-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 16:34:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:35:54 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Ronald Pieket wrote: > >>Ok.So tell my why should access do this? As customer friendly as the access guys are,this is very uneconomic! But, it`s a try.......Good Luck > >Because they can't afford not to. Access' reputation is *built* on their reputation of support, word of mouth from users delighted with continuous upgrades. Leaving the majority of Virus owners without an upgrade path, will leave the majority of Virus owners completely alienated and pissed. Can Access afford to lose their reputation? > >- Ronald. > While I admit that I'd be very disappointed if I had a Virus A. I think it is a bit much to be angry about the lack of an upgrade path. They have to make money somehow and I imagine they would loose a lot of money on upgrading the eariler model. I hate to be one of those people who mentions that you did get all that time of good use with the virus, but you did. Surely that is worth something??? I think that Access' reputation is built upon the quality product first and then the extremely good customer service. Yes, it is great to have such good customer service but I think I would have bought the virus anyway without it. Heck, I'm a sucker just for it's beautiful physical looks! I'm not replying to anyone person's comments, so please, no one take this personally. I just want to defend Access some because I am sure that they have already spent plenty of time worrying about user reaction to the new b/kbd only upgrade. It's not their fault. Technology changes, drops in price and they have to go with it. Who know though, they might surprise us all with an upgrade! -Jack (going off to dream about user arp. patterns!)X-From_: access-list-return-220-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 18:06:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:04:31 +0100 (MET) From: Kanou Ame To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Upgrade by Jack X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.132] X-Flags: 0001 >While I admit that I'd be very disappointed... blabla... ... blabla >I hate to be one of those people who mentions that... oh? realy? ... blabla >It's not their fault. Technology changes, drops in price and they have... oh thank you! i thought they like to... YOU THINK THAT WE RE THAT STUPID!?!? SLIMER! kanou -- ********************************************************************** * © in 1999 by Mr Kanou Ame * * Visit kanou.tip.nu for free samples * ********************************************************************** Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.netX-From_: access-list-return-221-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 18:11:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:08:14 +0100 (MET) From: Kanou Ame To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: AAAAAHhhh X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.141] X-Flags: 0001 hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu! 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YEA! hehehehehehehuhuhuhuhahahaheheh hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuh! uhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu! -- ********************************************************************** * © in 1999 by Mr Kanou Ame * * Visit kanou.tip.nu for free samples * ********************************************************************** Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.netX-From_: access-list-return-218-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:54:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:09:53 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: AAAAAHhhh Anyone want to buy a 4 months old virus a for 1900 Sfr???? OliX-From_: access-list-return-223-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 18:36:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Re: 3.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:30:50 +0100 Hi Marc, hi list, I agree with you according to the product life cycle of the virus and the great support and added features so far. I bought my virus over a year ago when the functions we have now with 2.52 were not implemented nor even announced by Access, and I was glad to see all these updates for the instrument I purchased for the features and sound it had then. I was just asking for the possibility of a hardware upgrade, like Emu's upgrade to the ultra series or the Microwave II voice expansion where older mainboards of the MW2 had to be replaced before adding the voice expansion board. Prizing on this is one point, technical realisation and implementation another. I could accept a decrease in polyphony in order to get some of the new features. Let's see what the guys at Access and TSI say ... Greeting, TL-Bee >hi tl-bee, > >the product life cycle of the virus "a" was very long in comparison to the devices of most competitors. by the time, the vocoder, the modulation matrix, bank c and d (+256 sounds) and many more features were added free of >any cost. > >i don't think a hardware swap/upgrade would be a good solution for anybody as the motherboard and the chassis, in other words -everything- would have to be swapped. the most cost effective way is to sell the "a". > >please keep in mind that not only oscillators take processing power away. so, even if the "a" would be equipped with some of the new features, the polyphony would raise down (at least when it comes to e.g. the phaser or analog boost feature). > >kind regards, > >marc > >ps: any music store should be capable of doing a swap by buying your "old" virus. conditions shouldn't be to bad as it still is a great device! X-From_: access-list-return-215-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 17:34:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:34:40 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: 3.0 (moving a bit off topic) On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Richard Wakelin wrote: >The Virus b/kb + OS3, certainly do sound wonderful, but Novation et al aren't going to stand still either. > >For those of you who haven't seen it: >http://www.novationusa.com/ ... follow links to: Products/Supernova II Keyboard > >Specs as yet undisclosed, but superficially (how to put this...) a stunning knob-count. > Yes, this is the one thing that I think Access has done wrong with the virus keyboard. Give the people knobs! :) I think all companies should learn from the jp8000 - knobs sell. Of couse, I also realize that it was probably much much cheaper to basically mount the virus into a keyboard without changing the layout much. >I suspect several manufacturers are holding back to try and launch the killer (modelling) machine for 2000. My guesses would be Supernova II to be released, Nord 3, Roland to stop dragging its heals and release a revamped (16 part, 20+ poly and maybe modelled drums for that all important "groove" badging) JP8000. Korg - I'm not so sure, Z1, Triton... maybe they have different plans. Likewise Yamaha AN2x(?) probably not with the expansion philosophy of they new products and the CS6x only launched this autumn... well it's fun to speculate. Yes I'd expect Roland to do likewise but they seem very consumed with trying to finally get their monster sampler/rompler out the door. their version of the ex5. I think yamaha may be giving up on the high-end market. I think that in a pure money-oriented, bottom-line viewpoint they are very happy with the cs1x's, etc. Though they are putting out their new samplers. My other problem with novation is that despite big claims they seem to have lots of problems with actually getting the software to work. This may just be an impression they get because they release beta software whereas Access seems to only released finished software. I'd love to get beta/try-this-it-does-something-cool-but-isn't-stable/ software from Access but I think that in the long run it does hurt a company because users spread the word that it is unstable without mentioning that it is a beta. >I think one of the major criteria for buying a new box (other than spec at time of purchase) will be support - I've heard about bugs in Z1, EX5 and Q... have they been fixed? Access have scored highly in my eyes by releasing a machine with few flaws at the outset and then adding major features through its lifetime. > Yes, yes, yes. Well, it certianly is fun speculating about all this! -JackX-From_: access-list-return-224-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 18:41:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:38:06 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Soundz X-Originating-IP: 128.100.212.154 Anyone who wants this patch email me privately, as I've already posted it twice. Peaceout Peter PS I still love my virus A, and I think I always will. 12 voices is usually enough for me, and hey, just use it, don't knock it. ------Original Message------ From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: November 16, 1999 1:57:02 AM GMT Subject: Re: Soundz >Did anyone try my patches? hey Peter ... yeah- your 303 patch is *very* well constructed. It's taken me a few days to realize this, but it really cuts through almost any mix. Beautiful farting, quacking, burping 303 quality... kudos! -zs ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-222-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 19:01:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:48:54 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: AAAAAHhhh Anybody ever told you that youre an asshole Oli (imagine me smiling friendly when i say this...) 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YEA! hehehehehehehuhuhuhuhahahaheheh >hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu!hahahahohohohohehehehehehuhuhuhuhuhu! > >-- >********************************************************************** * © in 1999 by Mr Kanou Ame * >* Visit kanou.tip.nu for free samples * >********************************************************************** > >Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.netX-From_: access-list-return-225-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 19:19:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: Gabe G To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Giving up polyphony I'd also give up some polyphony for the extra features... that would be a great compromise for those of us with Virus A's... -GabeX-From_: access-list-return-226-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 19:36:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:33:09 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:25:52 -0700, Ronald Pieket wrote: >Leaving the majority of Virus owners without an upgrade path, will leave the majority of Virus owners completely alienated and pissed. Are you really serious? So Access should provide an *eternal* free upgrade path? Or should it (a small company) invest in new hardware just to compete in a (tough) marketplace? A new DSP means new features can be added and hopefully keep Access in business. Remember the old Virus still sounds as good as it ever did - and probably has more power than it did when you bought it. I call that impressive enough and way beyond most manufacturers. >If I'd have to sell my Virus A to get a third oscillator, without a trade-in policy, I'll be looking closely at the Supernova I/II, and god knows what else will come out over the next three months (AN2X? JP1616?). Why do you suddenly need to sell up and get this third oscillator? Were you not content with the Virus a before you knew the Virus b would have one? Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-227-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 19:42:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:40:40 -0500 (EST) From: Gabe G To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Maybe I am missing something, since I've never felt the need to try this, but can't you just route one of your program's outputs into another program's input via aux, set both programs to the same midi channel, and then presto you've got !4 oscillators! and 2 sub oscillators running for the same sound? Of course polyphony is reduced, but still wouldn't this work? >Why do you suddenly need to sell up and get this third oscillator? Were you not content with the Virus a before you knew the Virus b would have one?X-From_: access-list-return-228-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 19:51:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:49:45 -0500 (EST) From: Gabe G To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B Hmm, just checked the manual, it should work fine, route part 1 and part 2 (your OSC parts--might want to turn the filter off for these guys) to aux 1L, then on part 3 set input to dynamic, aux 1L. Set parts 1, 2, and 3 to the same midi channel and there you go. >Maybe I am missing something, since I've never felt the need to try this, but can't you just route one of your program's outputs into another program's input via aux, set both programs to the same midi channel, and then presto you've got !4 oscillators! and 2 sub oscillators running for the same sound? Of course polyphony is reduced, but still wouldn't this work? > >>Why do you suddenly need to sell up and get this third oscillator? Were you not content with the Virus a before you knew the Virus b would have one? X-From_: access-list-return-229-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 19:59:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:52:30 -0600 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: 3.0 To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 That says it all!!! I had to see the spec to believe it. This update is nothing short of incredible. Much respect must be given to German synth designers. Access, are at the top of the ir game. I can't believe I was bitch'n about the 2.53 update for my Virus B. I am glad I loved the Virus enough to upgrade to the B... > >Oh my God!!! X-From_: access-list-return-230-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 20:06:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:57:49 -0600 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Music Shop To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Try Guitar Center. I know they have a store in New York. I got mine in Dallas for $1149. I'm not sure what they sell them for though. There website is: www.guitarcenter.com Rick >> > >I'm living in Turkey, >My friend will go to United State. Here, he will try to find Virus B for me . >Do you know the adress of a music shop in Washington, and in NewYork that >sell VirusB. > >Thanks in advance >Tugrul Akyuz. > X-From_: access-list-return-231-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 20:08:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: gatrall@pop.slip.net Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:03:23 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Simon Gatrall Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:25:52 -0700, Ronald Pieket wrote: >Leaving the majority of Virus owners without an upgrade path, will leave the majority of Virus owners completely alienated and pissed. Are you really serious? So Access should provide an *eternal* free upgrade path? Or should it (a small company) invest in new hardware just to compete in a (tough) marketplace? I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that Access supply free hardware upgrades. Soon after the B came out I wrote to Access and talked to GSF (the US distributor) to ask about a trade-in policy. Unfortunately they just don't get it. As someone else said on the list already, this is common with car dealers, and it is also a service that audio companies like Digidesign offer. I don't expect that Access would even give me a trade-in allowance as high as what I could get on the open market if I sold it used - I just want to send them my old virus, some money and get a new one without having to go through the hassle of finding a buyer. Clavia was still selling Nord I's for a long time after Nord II's were out - why can't Access sell "reconditioned" model "A" Viri while they sell "B" models? A new DSP means new features can be added and hopefully keep Access in business. Remember the old Virus still sounds as good as it ever did - and probably has more power than it did when you bought it. I call that impressive enough and way beyond most manufacturers. Access is way better than most companies. I think that most of the people on this list would agree. >If I'd have to sell my Virus A to get a third oscillator, without a trade-in policy, I'll be looking closely at the Supernova I/II, and god knows what else will come out over the next three months (AN2X? JP1616?). Why do you suddenly need to sell up and get this third oscillator? Were you not content with the Virus a before you knew the Virus b would have one? Come on - you write for SOS - you should know the way that the music equipment market works. It's just like the computer market. Each new product is supposed to come out and make you feel unhappy with your old, perfectly good model. Bigger, better faster. More, more, more. This isn't necessarily rational, but it is the way the system works. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.uk -s!mon X-From_: access-list-return-232-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 20:49:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:40:28 -0600 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 I don't think it is fair to expect them to offer an upgrade path. The Virus A has had a good run, and a fair deal more enhancements than most synths. All of this has been free of charge. I think they desierve your gratitude for what they have done already. Because I loved the Virus, I upgraded to the new model. I showed my support, and now I am getting rewarded. Version 3 looks incredible. Everyone should be happy that Access did such a great job of supporting the Virus A. The Virus A is still a fantastic synth. Rick why should access do this? >>As customer friendly as the access guys are,this is very uneconomic! But, it`s a try.......Good Luck > >Because they can't afford not to. Access' reputation is *built* on their reputation of support, word of mouth from users delighted with continuous upgrades. Leaving the majority of Virus owners without an upgrade path, will >leave the majority of Virus owners completely alienated and pissed. Can Access >afford to lose their reputation? > >- Ronald.X-From_: access-list-return-233-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 21:23:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:16:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B At 12:37 PM +0100 on 16.11.1999 Thommen Kaspar 215971 wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if Access is planning to do a hardware upgrade from the Virus A to Virus B or even a complete exchange of the units for a adequate price...?? Kaspar I doubt that Access will do this, but I have seen music stores offer an exchange like that (plus some pretty high price, so I didn't hink it was worth it. It's nice if you are running out of space I guess...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-234-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 21:39:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:38:33 +0100 From: Michael Lauer Reply-To: Michael Lauer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: archives Hi, I tried to get hold of an archive of the last three months discussion - but found none. The ones on Canines site are not uptodate. Can someone point me in the right direction ? Thanks, -- Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de --------------------------------------------------------- How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?X-From_: access-list-return-235-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 22:22:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:05:52 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B At 09:00 AM 11/16/99 -0700, you wrote: Christian Hofmann wrote: I didn't say that the hardware upgrade must be free, but a trade-in would help keep customers tied to the brand. In regard to your own example, most car manufacturers offer a trade-in option. That's because most car manufacturers have secondary-tier markets that they can sell those used-cars on. No such thing exists for the synth market. What would Access do with all those old Virus A's that are sitting on shelves (which cost money) doing nothing? Frankly, as one of the first Access Virus users in the US, and a long time proponent of Access' support philosophy (heck, I play my own part by running this mailing list), I'm quite happy to hear that they have a new product out there, and I think that their transition to the new OS3.0 and Virus KB/B platform is a welcome one. Sure, I'm kinda bummed that my old Virus A won't get the cool features for OS3.0, but hey - for these last few years I've had a *great* time with my Virus A, and it was well worth the money spent. Not to mention that its still a classic instrument. So I don't adhere to the notion that Access have to do anything for us Virus A users - good on them for moving forward, because we've had a great time with them as it is. And I look forward to hearing about the new Virus B features, and seeing the transition that Access' perform as they get more feedback and release 3.1, 3.2, 3.53, etc for their new products. Who knows, maybe that'll motivate me to buy a Virus B, in which case I'll be twice as happy with two Viruses in my kit. But demanding an upgrade path is a bit much, imho. The economics for that don't always scale, and I can't see how they can do it, unless the find some German philanthropist with a spare castle or two to give them the cash they'd need to do a board-swap program... If I'd have to sell my Virus A to get a third oscillator, without a trade-in policy, I'll be looking closely at the Supernova I/II, and god knows what else will come out over the next three months (AN2X? JP1616?). Well, that's your right, sure. But it's sorta childish, don't you think? Haven't you gotten your moneys worth with the Virus A all the while? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The return of SPYCAM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X-From_: access-list-return-236-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 22:30:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:21:54 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade A->B >>Ok.So tell my why should access do this? As customer friendly as the access guys are,this is very uneconomic! But, it`s a try.......Good Luck > >Because they can't afford not to. Access' reputation is *built* on their reputation of support, word of mouth from users delighted with continuous upgrades. Leaving the majority of Virus owners without an upgrade path, will leave the majority of Virus owners completely alienated and pissed. Can Access afford to lose their reputation? Please!!!! Any company who behaved in such a manner would either: a) sell a $10,000 Virus to cover the infinite upgrade cycle you recommend b) go straight out of business Can you think of *any* other piece of music gear that has had as many feature enhancements for FREE while you owned it? To expect Access to just *give* you new hardware when they come up with new ideas is silly. Am I pissed at Akai for not incorporating the features from the S6000 into an upgrade kit for my S3000XL? NO! If anything, *not* having upgrades inspires product designers to come up with *more* and *better* ideas, because it allows them to forget about mistakes of the past. -zsX-From_: access-list-return-237-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 23:01:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:00:59 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: More Sounds here are the three sounds that were messed up in my last post. GdEp z - A very expressive EP wetThng z - The power of the LFO fePuddn z - hmmmmmm.... And three more for posterity's sake: deciDATA z \ deciDATA2z -- LFO's power meets cross-modulation deciDATA3z / Unlike most other sounds (presets and other ones) these use the MOD wheel and Aftertouch to modify the sound parameters. Let me know what you think... -zs Attachment converted: f2000:zVirusPatches2.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (00004973)X-From_: access-list-return-239-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 23:07:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Upgrade A->B Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:07:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal It's great to see that Access has a new synth! The Virus B with OS3 certainly looks very tasty, but I'll stick to my Virus because imo it's already a classic synth and it has got all (well almost :-)) the features I want. (except for that classic analog phaser which the new Virus now has grrr :-)) But I also understand that the Virus is at its top what DSP power is concerned... Ah, maybe when I win the jackpot I'll buy the new one! Congratulations Christoph and team. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nlX-From_: access-list-return-240-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 23:11:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:09:36 EST Subject: Re: Music Shop To: access-list@teklab.com Jim who?? I ask as I live very close to it. David << Washington Music (ask for jim) D.C./Maryland >>X-From_: access-list-return-238-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Nov 16 23:06:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:20:33 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Music Shop Washington Music (ask for jim) D.C./Maryland rogue music NY dr. sound NY regards weld Tugrul Akyuz wrote: >> > >I'm living in Turkey, >My friend will go to United State. Here, he will try to find Virus B for me . Do you know the adress of a music shop in Washington, and in NewYork that sell VirusB. > >Thanks in advance >Tugrul Akyuz.X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 00:14:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:20:10 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw its already got it....kind of ? use the flanger and set the feedback to a negative valu......my mk1 is gone now why waiting on the kbd. i think this is right....Rob p? this is how rob got those groovy phasey sounds!! weld Moho Disco wrote: >* From Moho Disco > >Are there any plans to implement a phaser in the Virus? It's one of my favorite effects ever... > >Moho > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 11:16:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:28:04 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus B baby... uuuh Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Hey Tom im in the u.s. but try givin turnkey a call or better yet find out from TSI who the english distributor is Aceess doesnt have much to do with distribution. This way your distributor can tell you which stores have em cheers weld Tom wrote: >* From "Tom" > >So it is out? >Where is that? America? >Will no one tell me if it is out over here in the UK? I've got the cash to buy one but the stores don't know what i'm talking about when i say Virus B so i'm still waiting till (or pretend) they do. > >Tom. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Rick Reyes >To: >Sent: 16 September 1999 18:49 >Subject: Virus B baby... > >>* From "Rick Reyes" >> >>Hey List, >> >>I just picked up my Virus B last night. It was the last of the two I mentioned being in the Central Dallas Guitar Center. I am selling my original Virus to a list member, so it didn't hurt my wallet too bad. >> >>The switch to "Edit" Buttons is kick ass. The cool thing about them is >that >>they don't just jump to a given location in the edit pages, but that they ONLY access the parameters associated to the given section (edit button). Very Nice. Also, the pages that are associated with an edit button have >been >>removed from the edit menu, so you only access them via the edit buttons. This change really streamlines the menu system. >> >>Also, for Canine's site, the effect button gives you access to the Input setup, Vocoder and Chorus/Delay. >> >>While I only had about 20 minutes with it this morning, I really must give props to the Access team for the logical changes to the interface/menu system. I really like it... >> >>One complaint. I wish the edit buttons were setup in a "toggle" fashion. >You >>have to select another button to get them to deactivate. You really should be able to press it again to have it deselect it's edit menu... >> >>Rick >> >>Rick >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ><** > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 01:04:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:16:34 -0500 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Thats a natural response from the access envelope if i remember right weld John David Miller wrote: >* From "John David Miller" > >when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each note. i sampled the output with sound forge and, indeed, the wave is a bit spikey at the begining. you can really tell this using a sin wave. i would expect a sine cycle starting right at the zero crossing, but mine has a spike. setting the VCA attack to 3-7 is a workaround, but i'm wondering what's going on. > >is this just the way the virus works, or it mine busted? > >i can e-mail / post a way if you like. > >-- jdm > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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