X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 1 23:20:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:21:22 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: Modulate LFO2 rate? * From: Dimitri Sijperda Now, that wouldn't be a bad idea!! lfo1 -> lfo2 speed A wish for os 1.57!! Dimitri. At 05:56 31-10-98 -0800, you wrote: >* From: Derek Sivers > >Is it possible to modulate the RATE of LFO2? > >Like to have LFO1 or another pulsating source controlling the speed of LFO2's modulation? > > >Thanks! >- Derek Sivers >http://www.hitme.net/ > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 06:38:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:32:58 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Return-Path: skullytat@asapnet.net Subject: freezeup This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE05EF.F5A05280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I happened to get ahold of the Virus by accident and have to admit that = I am a novice to all of this. My question is this: when I'm going = through the factory sounds the Virus will freeze up and the only way to = get it to do anything is to reboot the Virus. When you do that it goes = back to where you left off and everything is OK again. Any ideas?!! ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE05EF.F5A05280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I happened to get ahold of the Virus = by accident=20 and have to admit that I am a novice to all of this. My question is = this: when=20 I'm going through the factory sounds the Virus will freeze up and the = only way=20 to get it to do anything is to reboot the Virus. When you do that it = goes back=20 to where you left off and everything is OK again. Any=20 ideas?!!
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE05EF.F5A05280-- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 09:27:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:22:05 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Return-Path: skullytat@asapnet.net Subject: freezeup take 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0607.95695AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to send a question before and messed up somehow! My question is = this: when I'm playing the factory sounds my Virus will just stop doing = anything at all. The only way for me to get it to go is by rebooting the = Virus and then it acts like nothing ever happened! Any ideas? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0607.95695AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I tried to send a question before = and messed up=20 somehow! My question is this: when I'm playing the factory sounds my = Virus will=20 just stop doing anything at all. The only way for me to get it to go is = by=20 rebooting the Virus and then it acts like nothing ever happened! Any=20 ideas?
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0607.95695AC0-- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 09:41:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:38:18 -0800 Subject: Re:only for those who want to make music * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 10:26 AM 11/2/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Jay, am I allowed to do this . . . > >[[ SOUNDZ.ZIP : 2321 in SOUNDZ.ZIP ]] > On the one hand, I applaud your willingness to share these sounds! I'm in the process of unzipping them now to check out myself. But on the other hand, naughty you, slap on the hand, for sending the .Zip file to the list. Next time, put the .zip file here and then post a message about it: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming And I will put the sounds for you here: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/access_virus/sounds/ Okay? Now lets have a listen to these new sounds! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 09:25:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:26:15 +0000 Subject: Re:only for those who want to make music Jay, am I allowed to do this . . . [[ SOUNDZ.ZIP : 2321 in SOUNDZ.ZIP ]] ? JAH Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:SOUNDZ.ZIP (pZIP/pZIP) (00009E95)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 16:13:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:48:07 -0600 Subject: Inputs situation, solution needed * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) I'm using the inputs in static mode. Input boost is set at about 20. Using Part 3. Problem is: Now I can't seem to get any of the other 15 parts to play anything. The patch volume is at 127. Their input modes are set to off. am I missing something obvious here? what's the deal? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 15:04:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:01:43 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Problems with 1.56 * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>I was getting a problem last night when I changed the global MIDI >chanel in >>order to initiate Multi prog changes on a different chanel. The Virus >would >>not change Multis on the new channel until it had been sent a MIDI >volume >>message on that chanel, then it was OK. (I dare say other controllers >or >>notes might have done the job but didn't try it.) The Virus responded >to >>single program changes on this chanel without problem. > >Hi, > >I checked the situation: >1. I did Multi PrgChg on Ch 1 >2. Changed Global Channel to 5 >3. Did Multi PrgChg on Ch 5 > >It worked fine. > >Christoph Kemper >ACCESS > Well I definitely wasn't imagining it! Turning the machine off and on again made no difference either. Hmm...... Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 15:30:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:10:25 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: A 1.55 thing * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk When either LFO 1 or 2 are set to the random waveform their LEDs throb as for the triangle waveform rather than flick to random values as they used to. Anybody else get this? Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 15:45:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:42:31 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Re:only for those who want to make music * From: "Terminal Bliss" >On the one hand, I applaud your willingness to share these sounds! I'm in the process of unzipping them now to check out myself. > >But on the other hand, naughty you, slap on the hand, for sending the .Zip file to the list. > >Next time, put the .zip file here and then post a message about it: > >ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming > >And I will put the sounds for you here: > >ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/access_virus/sounds/ Hey, could you make a WEB access to that FTP site... It would be much more convienant. I have an FTP program, but I hate using it... How many different sounds do you have up there? I don't actually use others sounds, but I like to listen to them for programming ideas and to figure out how they accomplished them. Thanks, terminal@xnet.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 16:25:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:21:57 +0100 Subject: Server back online * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi list, after the German internet strike/boycott I put the Virus pages back online, in case you have been looking on the weekend, it's all back by now. all the best.. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 2 21:36:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:32:54 -0800 Subject: Re: Re:only for those who want to make music * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Hey, could you make a WEB access to that FTP site... It would be much more convienant. I have an FTP program, but I hate using it... How many different sounds do you have up there? I don't actually use others sounds, but I like to listen to them for programming ideas and to figure out how they accomplished them. You can access ftp sites from your web browser. Just put that URL into your web browser, and away you go. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 04:33:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:33:43 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Music Technique * From: "Anig Browl" Is anyone using the Virus for goa/psychedelic type music? I am curious about how you may implement your sounds. Especially, what kind of melody lines or arpeggios do people find suitable for these styles of music, when combined with the sound-generation capabilities of the Virus? I find it hard to give my sounds the freedom they deserve in my tracks sometimes and I am hoping to hear some of the creative approaches others may use. Then I can steal all your ideas and have a million-selling CD (probably when I'm 73 :-) ). Thank you, Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 04:33:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:34:03 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: New Member Question * From: "Anig Browl" Paul Nagle (why does this name ring a bell?) wrote: >Have you explored the modulation matrix much? It offers a means to achieve all you want in this direction I believe although I'm not next to a Virus right now. It is a handy addition to the front panel modulation routings. I don't own a virus yet :'( But I will probably pay the erst of the price to the store over the next month : ) I read a little about the MM in the manual when i was doing my pre-deposit test drive, but didn't try it out as I didn't want to screw up the configuration while the store still owns it. I don't recall seeing a way to modulate the speed of one LFO with another and such like, did I read it too quickly perhaps? The manual is pretty good (and funny) but it could do with more detail in my opinion. The Virus is aimed at fairly advanced users, I guess most people already know what they want to do with it. But then I am a technician, which makes things easy for me, and also I know some people whose first synth was something complex like a Nord Lead. I used to write manuals for a living, I'm open to the idea of overhaluing the Virus manual after i buy mine, if anyone is interested. Thanks for the tip. Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 04:33:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:34:04 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: New Member Question * From: "Anig Browl" >>>These are VERY important to me also. We should be able to modulate >>>cutoff, as well as LFO rate, from both LFOs. I would really like to see all LFO destinations available for both LFO 1 and 2. > >Yo, Yo >Things like these will come in the future ... {:-)) > >Christoph Now I can buy with confidence! I must say the Access development team is really impressing me with your customer feedback and helpfulness. I am on the MC-505 list and Roland don't even tell people what their OS upgrades do, people on the list have to work it all out for themselves. By the way, do any access owners use a 505 or something similar? It's not bad at all when you get deep into the sound editing. One friend says he can't understand why I am interested in buying the virus when I can already make so many cool sounds with the equipment I have. I think he will understand soon though :) Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 04:44:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:40:42 -0800 Subject: RE: New Member Question * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >something complex like a Nord Lead. I used to write manuals for a living, I'm open to the idea of overhaluing the Virus manual after i buy mine, if anyone is interested. I'm interested, and would gladly assist. Just let me know what you'd need - web space, etc. I can provide. Also, a set of tutorials for creating basic sounds with the Virus would be an essential addition to any user-supported document set, I would think. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 08:31:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 07:29:43 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: New Member Question * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:34:03 -0800, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Paul Nagle (why does this name ring a bell?) wrote: I used to be Quasimodo in a former life. >I read a little about the MM in the manual when i was doing my pre-deposit test drive, but didn't try it out as I didn't want to screw up the configuration while the store still owns it. I don't recall seeing a way to modulate the speed of one LFO with another and such like, did I read it too quickly perhaps? That's because I was anticipating a feature that is not yet implemented. We've been told it's coming though, which is cool. Sorry for the misinformation/brainstorm. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 10:20:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:19:08 +0100 Subject: Re: Music Technique * From: Philipp Mott access-list@tl36.teklab.com / Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:33:43 -0800 : >* From: "Anig Browl" > >Is anyone using the Virus for goa/psychedelic type music? Well, define "psychedelic"... Based inside a triangle of Jarre, Oldfield and Pink Floyd I often try to "derive" sounds from the factory sounds. Another way I work upon sounds is re-engineering any material I can listen to. Just ask yourself: How did they do this particular sound ? It works, and it's easy since the VIRUS lets you modify the sound basics whith the turn of the knobs. >I find it hard to give >my sounds the freedom they deserve in my tracks sometimes and I am hoping to hear some of the creative approaches others may use. Mixing basics: A good mix can only bear one full bandwith sound in all its beauty. It's one of the arts of mixing to combine raw or unspectecular sounds in an arrangement to a working whole. Most important is the audio bandwidth of a single sound: Try to spread your sounds in order to let each of them take over a unique part of the audio spectrum. Get rid of those cool, full and spectecular sounds. If a sound interfers with another and you definitely want to keep both then try to reduce their bandwith using filters (eg. HP with the first sound / LP with the second one). Switch your VIRUS to MULTI mode and use your sequencer to combine uninteresting sounds into an interesting arrangement. Once the arrangement is done you can fiddle with the realtime features (eg. modulate some filter freq. and reso.) - each at a time to get behind the feeling of those modifications. More than often less is more. Try to refer to literature about mixing. Regardless of style questions the basics of making an arrangement remain the same. Of course, you can just follow your emotions and do whatever you think is o.k. - wouldn't be the worst attempt... flp ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 19:23:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: shehryar@mail.sirius.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:10:27 -0800 Subject: Virus Waves * From: Shehryar Lasi Hi, Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I'm new to the list. I was wondering about the 63 different "waves" in the Virus. Is the generation method of these waves more similar to a Microwave XT or to the so called "digital sounding waves" in the Nord Lead 2. I guess what I'm really asking is does the Virus generate these waves from sample points plus some interpolation hints (ala Microwave) or from an arithmetic series defining the amplitude, frequency, and phase of the the various sinsusoid components (I think thats how the Nord does it, please correct me if I am wrong), or does it use some entirely different method? Also what method does it use to generate the saw and square waves? Thanks for any info. -Shehryar ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 20:47:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:45:55 EST Subject: Re: Virus Waves * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >* From: Shehryar Lasi > >Hi, > >Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I'm new to the list. Welcome! > >I was wondering about the 63 different "waves" in the Virus. Is the generation method of these waves more similar to a Microwave XT or to the so called "digital sounding waves" in the Nord Lead 2. It is more similar to the Microwave, even though our waves are static and not 'morphable' by a wavetable. So far I know, the "digital sounding waves" of the Nord 2 is something like synced noise. You can get similar results on the Virus by syncing and FM'ing Oscillator 2. > >I guess what I'm really asking is does the Virus generate these waves from sample points plus some interpolation hints (ala Microwave) or from an arithmetic series defining the amplitude, frequency, and phase of the the various sinsusoid components (I think thats how the Nord does it, please correct me if I am wrong), or does it use some entirely different method? >Also what method does it use to generate the saw and square waves? The Nord doesn't work with Fourier Series. (Who told you this?) The oscillators of Virus and Nord are virtual analog, the analog waves (saw, pulse, subosc) are constructed in time domain in real time, that means, no precalculated values are read from a memory. This is similar to an analog synth. The digital waves of the Virus are sampled single cycle waves, they are driven by the virtual analog oscillator engine, and so they react similar to the analog waves. Don't wait and touch me Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 22:09:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 98 22:06:42 +0100 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Virus Waves * From: Raymund Beyer >Don't wait and touch me > >Christoph Kemper >ACCESS HAHAHA! Great signature ;-))))) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 3 22:27:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: shehryar@mail.sirius.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:15:09 -0800 Subject: Re: Virus Waves * From: Shehryar Lasi >CKe9644719@aol.com wrote > > >Welcome! > Thank you. >The Nord doesn't work with Fourier Series. (Who told you this?) No one actually, its just my poor attempt at trying to apply the few (and dangerous) DSP principles I know, to try and figure out how virtual analogs generate the "analog" oscillator wave forms. I thought that generating the signal in the time domain using a ramp function for a saw might cause aliasing at high frequncies. So I assumed that it would be better to generate the harmonics and sum them, and simply leave out the harmonics above the nyquist. This would also work without any precomputed values, but it would probably be very computationally expensive (and probably wouldn't sound as good). Like I said, a little knowledge can be dangerous. Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate the responsiveness of Access on this mailing list. -Shehryar ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 4 10:35:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:17:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Virus Waves * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:15 PM +0100 on 03.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >No one actually, its just my poor attempt at trying to apply the few (and dangerous) DSP principles I know, to try and figure out how virtual analogs generate the "analog" oscillator wave forms. I thought that generating the signal in the time domain using a ramp function for a saw might cause aliasing at high frequncies. So I assumed that it would be better to generate the harmonics and sum them, and simply leave out the harmonics above the nyquist. This would also work without any precomputed values, but it would probably be very computationally expensive (and probably wouldn't sound as good). Like I said, a little knowledge can be dangerous. wow. totally bexond me...;) did y > >>Return-Path: >> >>Received: from mailout01.btx.dtag.de by lagavulin.idnet.de; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 >>18:06:53 +0100 >>Received: from fwd11.btx.dtag.de (fwd11.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.171]) by mailout01.btx.dtag.de with smtp >> id 0zYvIw-0000eu-00; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:52:10 +0100 Received: (320091470223-0001(btxid)@[193.159.127.38]) by fwd11.btx.dtag.de >> id ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:51:52 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:51:52 +0100 >>To: alexander.dohnt@elixir.de, >>AndreaH888@hotmail.com, >>jenny.findeis@t-online.de, >>Karl.Niklaus@ags-versand.de, >>EtzrodtM@ma.kp.krupp.com, >>SteffenKoch-MP@t-online.de, >>BITBITESBRAIN@T-online.de >>Cc: frank_amann@t-online.de >>References: Subject: Fw: (Fwd) Viruswarnung! (fwd) >>X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.2 >>X-Sender: 320091470223-0001@t-online.de From: Rasmus.BFM@t-online.de (Rasmus) >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT >> >> >>Session Musikverlag schrieb: >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>>Von: Martin Schwebel An: bkuehne@universalmusic.de; christian.sommer@session-group.de; >>>borstel@de.polygram.com; Claudia Neufert ; Grosser-Promotion@t-online.de; doris.wiesenthal@bertelsmann.de; Dorte_Cancel@wmg.com; elke.scherbaum@bertelsmann.de; radioland@schoenesding.de; toolbox@session-group.de; iwalker@universalmusic.de; Joe Chialo >>>>Betreff: (Fwd) Viruswarnung! (fwd) >>>>Datum: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 1998 17:22 >>>> >>>>------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht / Forwarded message ------- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:58:19 +0100 >>>> >>>>Subject: Viruswarnung! (fwd) >>>>From: Gordeon@t-online.de (gordeon) >>>> >>>>POOL Berlin schrieb: >>>>>Betreff: Viruswarnung von microsoft !!! >>>>>Viruswarnung! >>>>>Wenn Sie eine E-Mail mit dem Titel "GET MORE MONEY" erhalten, OEFFNEN SIE SIE UNTER KEINEN UMSTAENDEN! Sie loescht alle Daten, die sich auf Ihrer Festplatte befinden. Reichen Sie diese Warnung an soviele Leute wie moeglich weiter. Dies ist ein neuer, sehr boesartiger Virus und noch nicht sehr viele wissen darueber >>>>>Bescheid. Diese Information wurde letzte Woche von Microsoft bekannt gegeben, bitte geben Sie diese Nachricht an jede/n weiter, die/der >>>einen >>>>>Internet Zugang besitzt. >>>>>Noch einmal, geben Sie diese Warnung an JEDEN weiter, der in Ihrem Adressbuch steht, damit der Virus baldmoeglichst gestoppt werden kann. >>>>>Schauen Sie auch keine Mails an, die die Titel "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER" tragen. Dieser Virus wird sich an Ihre Computerverbindungsteile heften und sie nutzlos machen. Loeschen Sie also sofort alle Mails mit solchen Titeln. AOL sagte, dass dies ein sehr gefaehrlicher Virus sei und dass es KEINE Gegenmittel zur Zeit gaebe. Bitte beachten Sie diese Sicherheitsmassnahme und leiten Sie sie an alle Ihre Freunde im >>>Internet >>>>>SO SCHNELL WIE MOEGLICH weiter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ rasmus.bfm@t-online.de >>Phone: ++49-7031-38-2023 / Fax: ++49-7031-38-5784 >> >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "CHILL WITH EVERY FRAME" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 4 23:38:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:34:02 -0500 Organization: Digital Chicanery Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fw: (Fwd) Viruswarnung! (fwd)] * From: Crazyjon well......my german is not so good these days....but I gonna have to say that that message, like the kind that fly around is ........... A HOAX folx.....you cant get a virus from an email CrazyJon access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Nico Herz > >> >>>Return-Path: >>> >>>Received: from mailout01.btx.dtag.de by lagavulin.idnet.de; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 >>>18:06:53 +0100 >>>Received: from fwd11.btx.dtag.de (fwd11.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.171]) >>>by mailout01.btx.dtag.de with smtp >>>id 0zYvIw-0000eu-00; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:52:10 +0100 Received: (320091470223-0001(btxid)@[193.159.127.38]) >>>by fwd11.btx.dtag.de >>>id ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:51:52 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:51:52 +0100 >>>To: alexander.dohnt@elixir.de, >>>AndreaH888@hotmail.com, >>>jenny.findeis@t-online.de, >>>Karl.Niklaus@ags-versand.de, >>>EtzrodtM@ma.kp.krupp.com, >>>SteffenKoch-MP@t-online.de, >>>BITBITESBRAIN@T-online.de >>>Cc: frank_amann@t-online.de >>>References: Subject: Fw: (Fwd) Viruswarnung! (fwd) >>>X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.2 >>>X-Sender: 320091470223-0001@t-online.de From: Rasmus.BFM@t-online.de (Rasmus) >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT >>> >>> >>>Session Musikverlag schrieb: >>>> >>>> >>>>---------- >>>>>Von: Martin Schwebel An: bkuehne@universalmusic.de; christian.sommer@session-group.de; >>>>borstel@de.polygram.com; Claudia Neufert ; Grosser-Promotion@t-online.de; doris.wiesenthal@bertelsmann.de; Dorte_Cancel@wmg.com; elke.scherbaum@bertelsmann.de; radioland@schoenesding.de; toolbox@session-group.de; iwalker@universalmusic.de; Joe Chialo >>>>>Betreff: (Fwd) Viruswarnung! (fwd) >>>>>Datum: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 1998 17:22 >>>>> >>>>>------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht / Forwarded message ------- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:58:19 +0100 >>>>> >>>>>Subject: Viruswarnung! (fwd) >>>>>From: Gordeon@t-online.de (gordeon) >>>>> >>>>>POOL Berlin schrieb: >>>>>>Betreff: Viruswarnung von microsoft !!! >>>>>>Viruswarnung! >>>>>>Wenn Sie eine E-Mail mit dem Titel "GET MORE MONEY" erhalten, OEFFNEN SIE SIE UNTER KEINEN UMSTAENDEN! Sie loescht alle Daten, die sich auf Ihrer Festplatte befinden. Reichen Sie diese Warnung an soviele Leute wie moeglich weiter. Dies ist ein neuer, sehr boesartiger Virus und noch nicht sehr viele wissen >darueber >>>>>>Bescheid. Diese Information wurde letzte Woche von Microsoft bekannt gegeben, bitte geben Sie diese Nachricht an jede/n weiter, die/der >>>>einen >>>>>>Internet Zugang besitzt. >>>>>>Noch einmal, geben Sie diese Warnung an JEDEN weiter, der in Ihrem Adressbuch steht, damit der Virus baldmoeglichst gestoppt werden kann. >>>>>>Schauen Sie auch keine Mails an, die die Titel "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER" tragen. Dieser Virus wird sich an Ihre Computerverbindungsteile heften und sie nutzlos machen. Loeschen Sie also sofort alle Mails mit solchen Titeln. AOL sagte, dass dies ein sehr gefaehrlicher Virus sei und dass es KEINE Gegenmittel zur Zeit gaebe. Bitte beachten Sie diese Sicherheitsmassnahme und leiten Sie sie an alle Ihre Freunde im >>>>Internet >>>>>>SO SCHNELL WIE MOEGLICH weiter. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ rasmus.bfm@t-online.de >>>Phone: ++49-7031-38-2023 / Fax: ++49-7031-38-5784 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de > > >"CHILL WITH EVERY FRAME" > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 00:40:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:49:45 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: posted patches??? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net I liked these patches, whos the anonymous donor?????? bueller? : ) weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 00:40:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:49:59 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: posted patches??? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net I liked these patches, whos the anonymous donor?????? bueller? : ) weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >Jay, am I allowed to do this . . . > >[[ SOUNDZ.ZIP : 2321 in SOUNDZ.ZIP ]] > >? > >JAH > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >Attachment 2 Type: application/zip >Encoding: base64 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 01:18:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: visnick@europa.com Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:17:39 -0800 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fw: (Fwd) Viruswarnung! (fwd)] * From: Marc Visnick At 05:34 PM 11/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >* From: Crazyjon > >well......my german is not so good these days....but I gonna have to say that that message, like the kind that fly around is ........... A HOAX > >folx.....you cant get a virus from an email > >CrazyJon Until recently, I would have agreed with you. However, newer e-mail programs (such as Microsoft Outlook) that use HTML to encode e-mail may actually pose a significant security risk to the user... (The following was originally written by John Bartley. I have verified all cited URL's; in other words, this isn't another Internet hoax.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Security Hole Hits Internet Explorer This Time A SPANISH web developer named Juan Carlos Cuartango has discovered a new security hole in Internet Explorer 4. The Cuartango Hole can enable a malicious webmaster to pilfer files from a web surfer's computer. The Cuartango Hole exploits the fact that Cut and Paste functions are available to scripting tools in Internet Explorer 4, and uses them to circumvent the security protections Microsoft built into IE4 HTML file transfers. A demonstration of the Cuartango Hole is available at http://pages.whowhere.com/computers/cuartangojc/ cuartangoh1.html. According to Richard Smith of PharLap Software, "More worrisome is the fact that the security hole can be also exploited in an HTML-based e-mail messages in Outlook Express. "By simply reading a booby-trapped e-mail message, private files can be stolen from one's hard disk. Most computer users, I suspect, will consider this an unacceptable product defect." A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed the existance of the security hole, and said the company is working on a fix ASAP. When completed, the fix will be available at www.microsoft.com/ie/security/xframe.htm. Microsoft said it had received no reports of customers being affected by the security hole. The Cuartango Hole apparently doesn't affect Netscape, but preliminary reports suggest that the beta of IE 5 may be affected. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 01:59:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Don, 5 Nov 98 02:01:11 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: re:waveforms * From: Marc Schlaile >I would just like to mention that the waveform knobs are the exception to the rule in the virus. When I turn a waveform knob, I CAN NOT see what the waveform *was* set to *before* I turned the knob. Why is this? Could it be changed? good point. in general an undo function for the last parameter change would be fun. maybe it's fairly hard to implement in a synth with "continuous" paramters since since there's no absolute value to undo because there might me a few steps inbetween. anyway- it would be cool cu marc "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?" babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 11:11:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:11:33 +0100 Organization: COMPAREX Subject: Re: posted patches??? * From: Roman Vargas Where are these patches? access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: john-adrian.holt@itgw01.schlafhorst.de > >>I liked these patches, whos the anonymous donor?????? >> >>bueller? : ) >>weld > >No, it was me, but somehow my email address did not find its way into the header. > >john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de > >JAH > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 09:15:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:16:15 +0000 Subject: re:posted patches??? * From: john-adrian.holt@itgw01.schlafhorst.de >I liked these patches, whos the anonymous donor?????? > >bueller? : ) >weld No, it was me, but somehow my email address did not find its way into the header. john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de JAH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 13:25:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:20:32 +0100 Subject: re: posted patches??? * From: Dimitri S At 13:07 5-11-98 +0000, you wrote: >* From: john-adrian.holt@itgw01.schlafhorst.de Sorry, I'm not allowed to send these patches to the list again (or any other patches) cos' Jay gave me a smack on the hand, and I can't upload to an ftp server. I thought jay asked you to upload to his ftp server Or don't you know how to do that? You can mail it to me, then I can give it a try. Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 12:05:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:07:19 +0000 Subject: re: posted patches??? * From: john-adrian.holt@itgw01.schlafhorst.de >Where are these patches? Look in the thread "Re:only for those who want to make music" (2.11.98). Sorry, I'm not allowed to send these patches to the list again (or any other patches) cos' Jay gave me a smack on the hand, and I can't upload to an ftp server. By the way, thanx for the compliment, Weld ! JAH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 16:39:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:36:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: (no subject) * From: "Dizzy J." unsubscribe ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 5 15:35:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:36:15 +0000 Subject: re:posted patches??? * From: john-adrian.holt@itgw01.schlafhorst.de I've sent my patches to Dimi. He's already put them on the teklab ftp server. Dimi, will you allow us to use your services in this way for future uploads ?? (for people without the ability to do it themselves) Joachim, I got your mail but couldn't see your address, thats why I can't reply. Yes, of course I can understand German too. It's great: you can invent really long words such as: Hubschrauberlandeplatzbesichtigungstermin. JAH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 6 01:05:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:05:35 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: re:posted patches???, how to ftp. * From: Dimitri Sijperda >>Dimi, will you allow us to use your services in this way for future uploads ?? (for people without the ability to do it themselves)<< Yes, of course! Just send me the files with your patches, and I will put them on ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming . Just don't make them too big. Then I'll send a mail to Jay wit your name and email adress. In fact it's quite simple to do, but I understand that many people are not able to do this. But if you want to do it yourself, the instructions are these: -Under win95, make sure you modem is online (or whatever you use, maybe you are permanently on the internet..), just open a dos box, and go to the directory where you file is. --let's say four file is called FILE.ZIP --type ftp ftp.teklab.com --when asked for a user name, say [anonymous] --when asked for the password, say [me@home.country] yup, that's your mailadress as password! Then the next commands: (don't type the [ and ] of course!) --[cd teklab] almost there... --[cd incoming] YES! now you're in the right place --[bin] change to a compatible transfer mode, just to be sure. --[mput file.zip] put it on the server (takes some time) --[ls -la file.zip] This shows you if your file is there. --[bye] wave friendly goodbye to the ftp server and close the connection. --[exit] to quit the dos-box. --mail jay that you put it there at jay@teklab.com and what the filename is. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 6 01:14:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:11:58 -0800 Subject: re:posted patches???, how to ftp. * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Then I'll send a mail to Jay wit your name and email adress. In fact it's quite simple to do, but I understand that many people are not able to do this. >But if you want to do it yourself, the instructions are these: -Under win95, make sure you modem is online (or whatever you use, maybe you are permanently on the internet..), just open a dos box, and go to the directory where you file is. Another thing I'd add is to ABSOLUTELY be sure you add a .txt file to your upload. See the guidelines for uploads on the A3k Central web site, here: http://www.teklab.com/~a3k j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 7 17:15:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 11:22:57 -0400 Organization: weld electronica CC: john-adrian.holt@tgw01.schlafhorst.de Subject: Re: posted patches??? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net john were there just 5 patches in the zip file??? just wanted to check your welcome for the compliment ill send some of mine soon! weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 7 21:38:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 14:45:35 -0800 Organization: @Home Network Subject: MIDI dumps * From: Pytel Thomas Hey all. I just recently got my Virus and am very pleased. My question is: Is there any way to dump an entire MULTI or MULTI SINGLE patch set in such a way that when I send it back to the Virus it will replace the 16 SINGLE patch edit buffers? That is, instead of dumping a SINGLE patch at a time, store all 16 which are currently being used in MULTI or MULTI SINGLE. The reason for this is that I am used to setting up a synth in a certain way and storing that entire configuration in a MIDI file, so that everything needed to reproduce that song is in the MIDI file instead of on the synth. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 8 18:21:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:08:59 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: newby This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BE0B21.54C6E5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fellas, i just got my brand new virus, with os 1.54, and it sounds greatn so = on.. I'm lookin' for presets closer to stereolab sounds, cause i'm playing = indie rock stuff ....do i need a different os?or do i have to find out = sounds myself?(well, this is not really a problem..it's just that i'm in = a hurry...) Gabbo=20 yuppieflusuite@iol.it yuppie flu home www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Balcony/3155/index.htm=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BE0B21.54C6E5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hi=20 Fellas,
i just got my brand new virus, with os 1.54, and it = sounds=20 greatn so on..
I'm lookin' for presets closer to stereolab sounds, cause i'm playing indie rock = stuff=20 ...do i need a different os?or do i have to find out sounds = myself?(well, this=20 is not really a problem..it's just that i'm in a = hurry...)

Gabbo 


          &nbs= p;            = ;  =20 yuppieflusuite@iol.it
= =20 yuppie flu home
www.= geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Balcony/3155/index.htm=20
  ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BE0B21.54C6E5E0-- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 8 14:13:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:08:59 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: newby This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BE0B21.54C6E5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fellas, i just got my brand new virus, with os 1.54, and it sounds greatn so = on.. I'm lookin' for presets closer to stereolab sounds, cause i'm playing = indie rock stuff ....do i need a different os?or do i have to find out = sounds myself?(well, this is not really a problem..it's just that i'm in = a hurry...) Gabbo=20 yuppieflusuite@iol.it yuppie flu home www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Balcony/3155/index.htm=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BE0B21.54C6E5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Hi=20 Fellas,
i just got my brand new virus, with os 1.54, and it = sounds=20 greatn so on..
I'm lookin' for presets closer to stereolab sounds, cause i'm playing indie rock = stuff=20 ...do i need a different os?or do i have to find out sounds = myself?(well, this=20 is not really a problem..it's just that i'm in a = hurry...)

Gabbo 


          &nbs= p;            = ;  =20 yuppieflusuite@iol.it
= =20 yuppie flu home
www.= geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Balcony/3155/index.htm=20
  ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BE0B21.54C6E5E0-- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 8 15:52:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:50:18 +0100 Subject: Re: newby * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >Hi Fellas, >i just got my brand new virus, with os 1.54, and it sounds greatn so = on.. >I'm lookin' for presets closer to stereolab sounds, cause i'm playing = indie rock stuff ....do i need a different os?or do i have to find out = sounds myself?(well, this is not really a problem..it's just that i'm in = a hurry...) Hm I don't really know what sounds stereolab use, but I am sure you can get their sound by rolling your own patches on the virus. I found a good start is a very very simple patch. Turn all modulations, envelopes and fx off, start with the wave you like to use and filter it. Then go to the LFOs and ENVs and give the sound some more depth. I found this works quite well for many analog style sounds. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 8 15:52:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:51:55 +0100 Subject: Re: MIDI dumps * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:45 PM +0100 on 07.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Pytel Thomas > >Hey all. I just recently got my Virus and am very pleased. My question is: Is there any way to dump an entire MULTI or MULTI SINGLE patch set in such a way that when I send it back to the Virus it will replace the 16 SINGLE patch edit buffers? That is, instead of dumping a SINGLE patch at a time, store all 16 which are currently being used in MULTI or MULTI Yes, if I understand you correctly you will need OS 1.56 which has several new means of dumping the content of the Virus' RAM into the sequencer. You can get it from my page (see the footer of this message) and there is a readme in German or English descrbing the details of the dump commands. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 13:38:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 01:34:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: MIDI dumps * From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Mei=DFner?=" >* From: Pytel Thomas > >Hey all. I just recently got my Virus and am very pleased. My question is: Is there any way to dump an entire MULTI or MULTI SINGLE patch set in such a way that when I send it back to the Virus it will replace the 16 SINGLE patch edit buffers? That is, instead of dumping a SINGLE patch at a time, store all 16 which are currently being used in MULTI or MULTI SINGLE. The reason for this is that I am used to setting up a synth in a certain way and storing that entire configuration in a MIDI file, so that everything needed to reproduce that song is in the MIDI file instead of on the synth. Yes there is a way since OS 1.55: When in MULTI-SINGLE-CTRL or MULTI-CTRL Mode, select "Arrangement" in MIDI DUMP TX DisplayPage. Now push STORE key, your VIRUS will bulk the Multi-Edit-Buffer and the 16 Single-Edit-Buffers (except those Parts whose PartEnable is set to "Off"). All right ? Remember: Only OS 1.55 and newer... Jörg Meißner access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 06:00:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:58:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: hey * From: "Cyngus" hi, i just recently bought a virus.. and have been messing with it learning the shounds and what not..but i just started to begin learing howto sequence it.. and i have been using cakewalk.. and i am having a prob.... i have another synth... the cs1x.. controlling the virus....and right now i have my gear hooked up like this... from my computer to the cs1x in and out... then from the cs1x thru to the virus in.... but when i go into cakewalk..and record.. and move the knobs on the vrius.. and stop recording.. what happens is that cakewalk didnt record the knob movments.... so i changed the midi cableing.. and now i have it as.... from the computer to the cs1x in and to the virus out... and then from the cs1x thru to the virus in....... now when i did that.. the cs1x no longer controlled the virus it seemed like... i hit a key on the cs1x and nothing was played from the virus... i went into cakewalk... and in staff mode i placed sum notes.. that the virus played... then recorded sum of the knob movements.. and thoses recorded fine.... but the cs1x was not controlling it anymore.. is there a way to get both the cs1x controlling the virus and still have the virus knob movments be recorded as well?.... i am not sure if u have any idea as to what i am talkign about :) but.. if you do... do u know what i might be doing wrong?.... is there a connect messed up some where?... i was told that i might need a patch bay... like the midi XT express...do i? thanx.. Cyngus ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 08:07:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:06:22 +0100 Subject: Re: hey * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:58 AM +0100 on 09.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >i am not sure if u have any idea as to what i am talkign about :) but.. if you do... do u know what i might be doing wrong?.... is there a connect messed up some where?... i was told that i might need a patch bay... like The problem is, you are doing everything right. but: Midi is just a one.way street. to use a synth as a controller and as a performer you need both midi leads to and from the computer to be connected. You need a bigger midi interface giving you more ins into the computer or you could use a midi merger, merging two signals into one. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 08:07:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 01:14:25 -0800 Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: hey * From: Pytel Thomas access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Cyngus" > >hi, i just recently bought a virus.. and have been messing with it learning the shounds and what not..but i just started to begin learing howto sequence it.. and i have been using cakewalk.. and i am having a prob.... i have another synth... the cs1x.. controlling the virus....and right now i have my gear hooked up like this... from my computer to the cs1x in and out... then from the cs1x thru to the virus in.... but when i go into cakewalk..and record.. and move the knobs on the vrius.. and stop recording.. what happens is that cakewalk didnt record the knob movments.... so i changed the midi cableing.. and now i have it as.... from the computer to the cs1x in and to the virus out... and then from the cs1x thru to the virus in....... now when i did that.. the cs1x no longer controlled the virus it seemed like... i hit a key on the cs1x and nothing was played from the virus... i went into cakewalk... and in staff mode i placed sum notes.. that the virus played... then recorded sum of the knob movements.. and thoses recorded fine.... but the cs1x was not controlling it anymore.. is there a way to get both the cs1x controlling the virus and still have the virus knob movments be recorded as well?.... i am not sure if u have any idea as to what i am talkign about :) but.. if you do... do u know what i might be doing wrong?.... is there a connect messed up some where?... i was told that i might need a patch bay... like the midi XT express...do i? > >thanx.. Cyngus >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! It sounds like you have only one MIDI port on your PC. A multiport MIDI interface would solve all your problems. With only one port, you are counting on the CS1X MIDI THRU for this. THRUs usually only send out what came in on the IN, not what the device should transmit. This is what the CS1X is doing. The Virus OUT will let you pass the MIDI from the IN as well as send its own data on the same port (this is with OS v1.56, I don't know about older OSs). I suggest: Computer OUT -> CS1X IN, CS1X OUT -> Virus IN, Virus OUT -> Computer IN. And make sure you set the 'SoftThru' option on the Virus on. This is not the best solution as you will wind up sharing MIDI channels. Take a look into getting more MIDI ports for your PC. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 11:39:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:35:57 +0100 Subject: Hardwaresequenzer Part II * From: !**picNIC**! At 11:38 09.11.98 +0000, you wrote: >* From: Meister > >Who is working with the Latronic Notron Hardwaresequenzer and can tell me about >it ? >Is it worth itīs money? Does it groove? Is it easy to make fine and complex drumtracks? (like with an A3000) Hi Meister! ;)) Sorry, I don't know this hardware sequenzer, but here is another question: I have an old used Kawai Q80 here, anyone know something bout this one? I am just thinking of sending sound dumps to and from it, and doin little live sequz with it + virus ... anyone knows some specs, or has one (URLs??)? How much would u pay for it? Ah, Meister, whatcha mean with ya last sentence (my A3000 sampla can only record a midi file, no sequenzing at all...!?)?! U mean the Loop remix or what?! Thanx all NIC ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 10:33:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:38:04 +0000 Organization: Institute of Immunology Subject: Hardwaresequenzer * From: Meister Hi all, Who is working with the Latronic Notron Hardwaresequenzer and can tell me about it ? Is it worth itīs money? Does it groove? Is it easy to make fine and complex drumtracks? (like with an A3000) Thanks ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 13:32:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:27:52 +0100 Subject: midi-problem...perhaps * From: Mathias Samuelsson I am using this configuration: Virus, masterkeyboard, PC with Cubase VST. My problems is this: When I'm working in Cubase I can't turn the knobs on the Virus and play at the masterkeyboard simultaneously. When I do so the Virus locks up or does something else that is strange. Can it perhaps be some midi connection problem. My connection-schedule is like this: Virus MidiOut-ThruBox MidiIn. ThruBox MidiThru-Masterkeyboard MidiOut. ThruBox MidiThru-PC soundcard MidiIn. PC soundcard MidiOut-Virus MidiIn. Have I connected the devices wrongly? Please help me because I'm starting to get really tired with this problem. Best Regards Mathias Samuelsson ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 17:56:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:57:48 +0100 Subject: Re: midi-problem...perhaps * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:27 PM +0100 on 09.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Mathias Samuelsson > >I am using this configuration: .. >My connection-schedule is like this: >Virus MidiOut-ThruBox MidiIn. ThruBox MidiThru-Masterkeyboard MidiOut. This doesn't sound like this is correct. usually a "Thru" port puts out MIDI signal and doesn't receive it. the Midi out also puts out data. >ThruBox MidiThru-PC soundcard MidiIn. >PC soundcard MidiOut-Virus MidiIn. >Have I connected the devices wrongly? I may be wrong about the above but nontheless it sounds a lot like you created a midi loop where data is sent all around and around. This causes most midi devices to stop, sit back in silence and ask themselves whether or not their owner has lost his marbles. This is totally normal and can be remedied by simplifying the setup then gradually go back up to something similar to where you are now. You will find where the problem is the moment you connect a new cable and everything stops working... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 14:06:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:12:27 +0000 Organization: Institute of Immunology Subject: Re: Hardwaresequenzer Part II * From: Meister access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: !**picNIC**! > >At 11:38 09.11.98 +0000, you wrote: >>* From: Meister >> >>Who is working with the Latronic Notron Hardwaresequenzer and can tell me >about >>it ? >>Is it worth itīs money? Does it groove? Is it easy to make fine and complex drumtracks? (like with an A3000) > >Ah, Meister, whatcha mean with ya last sentence (my A3000 sampla can only record a midi file, no sequenzing at all...!?)?! U mean the Loop remix or what?! > >No, i just meant the hardwaresequenzer in connection to my A3000 ! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 9 19:13:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:08:16 +0100 Subject: Re: midi-problem...perhaps * From: Mathias Samuelsson OK, but the problem isn't when I play back the midi-file in cubase. When I play it everything sounds ok, the right tones and right sweeps. But the problem is when I'm recording the loop. Then I can't turn the knobs and play the keyboard at the same time. So far I've compromised and first recorded the loop on the masterkeyboard, then afterwards added the sweeps on the Virus. ..But sometimes you want to do both. Meanwhile... I'll try all midisettings I can think of, but I'm not shure that's the problem. Best regards Mathias Samuelsson access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 1:27 PM +0100 on 09.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>* From: Mathias Samuelsson >> >>I am using this configuration: >.. >>My connection-schedule is like this: >>Virus MidiOut-ThruBox MidiIn. ThruBox MidiThru-Masterkeyboard MidiOut. > >This doesn't sound like this is correct. usually a "Thru" port puts out MIDI signal and doesn't receive it. the Midi out also puts out data. > >>ThruBox MidiThru-PC soundcard MidiIn. >>PC soundcard MidiOut-Virus MidiIn. >>Have I connected the devices wrongly? > >I may be wrong about the above but nontheless it sounds a lot like you created a midi loop where data is sent all around and around. This causes most midi devices to stop, sit back in silence and ask themselves whether or not their owner has lost his marbles. This is totally normal and can be remedied by simplifying the setup then gradually go back up to something similar to where you are now. You will find where the problem is the moment you connect a new cable and everything stops working... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 10 23:47:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:43:47 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Bug in OS 1.56? * From: "Torsten Eichhorst" Hi, I expierence problems with os 1.56. I just uploaded the new version and now every time i switch on my Virus i get the question, if i want do load the factory sounds. This happend in OS 1.55 too. So i dumped back to OO 1.54 and every thing seems to be o.k.. Any suggestions?? CU Torsten Eichhorst ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 02:46:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: ismail@axionet.com (Unverified) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:45:06 -0800 Subject: PLEASE REMOVE ismail@axionet.com FROM MAILING LIST * From: ismail@axionet.com Hello This is to inform you that i would like to be REMOVED from the access mailing list. This is your official notice to please remove my email address from your system. Thank you for your cooperation ismail@axionet.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 08:39:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:45:32 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Bug in OS 1.56? * From: Guenther Albrecht Happens to me, too. the fix letting the virus init the banks once does not work even when switched off with pure factory in his memmory, he wants to load all again the next timehe is switched on. and - why init the edit buffers? we should have an edit buffer preservation society online instead.... regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 10:47:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:41:09 +0100 Subject: Re: Bug in OS 1.56? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:45 AM +0100 on 11.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Happens to me, too. the fix letting the virus init the banks once does not work even when switched off with pure factory in his memmory, he wants to load all again the next timehe is switched on. and - why init the edit buffers? we should have an edit buffer preservation society online instead.... You are all so right, this is a bug and Access told me it will be fixed in version 1.57 which is due next week. Please be patient until then, they are working on the problem. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 13:51:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:49:54 -0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Bug in OS 1.56? * From: "Paulo Abreu" Hi >You are all so right, this is a bug and Access told me it will be fixed in version 1.57 which is due next week. Please be patient until then, they are working on the problem. > The strange thing is that I had that problem under 1.55 but not with 1.56, except last night after a system (not only the virus) crash with a serious midi loop problem (also nothing to do with the virus). After that crash I had that question again but it "went away" for good (i just answered no!!!) and now I keep working without that question...bizarre - "not all virus are created equal"... no democracy on virus land ; ) Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 16:15:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:08:37 -0500 Organization: Digital Chicanery Subject: insects and a question * From: CrAzYjOn I'm trying to make a Buzzsaw type sound (bassish)...and I'm not quite getting it to come ripping through....any tips would be most appriciated also when I program patches, alot of times I end up with a lot of clicking, and slight poping on the attack of the sound...any ideas why? Peace CrazyJon What up Rick!!!!......Mundo!!!!!!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 16:17:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:08:38 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: ot: drumKat dk-10 * From: "Carsten Hohmann" Hello, does someboby of you know how to use an drumKAT dk-10? I got one without manual, and need to know, how to change the Channel / Note and Velocity per Pad ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 16:20:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:18:20 +0100 Subject: Re: Bug in OS 1.56? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:49 PM +0100 on 11.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >"not all virus are created equal"... >no democracy on virus land ; ) Every Virus has its brain soldered in by little green monsters working with their bare hands. Every once in a while these monsters kidnap another truck full of electronics parts and see if any of those fit into the Virus. Every once in a while the trucks are loaded with newer parts that are cheaper, better, smaller, louder, smarter, better looking and better smelling. So the little green monsters take these instead. These parts are all the same for all practical purposes but some are more strict when it somes to executing DSP code than others. That's what I believe happened somewhat like this...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 16:55:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:51:16 +0100 Subject: Re: Bug in OS 1.56? * From: Dimitri S At 16:18 11-11-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" better, smaller, louder, smarter, better looking and better smelling. I never noticed my Virus smelling! What's that feature, can I control its smell via MIDI-ctrl? Or is my Virus broke that I can't smell it?? Shall I bring it back to the store? Or does it only a new OS upgrade to make it smell? I have OS 1.56 . I want a smelling Virus too!! :p Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 17:15:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:14:40 +0100 Organization: makrokosmos X-Accept-Language: en Subject: Re: Bug in OS 1.56? * From: Martin Aune >"not all virus are created equal"... >no democracy on virus land ; ) > Perhaps the Virus has already started to evolve into new mutations? :) Martin -- ------------------------------- makrokosmos@oslo.online.no http://home.sol.no/~klikk ------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 18:19:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:20:06 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: equality between Virii? * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >The strange thing is that I had that problem under 1.55 but not with 1.56, except last night after a system (not only the virus) crash with a serious midi >loop problem (also nothing to do with the virus). After that crash I had that >question again but it "went away" for good (i just answered no!!!) and now I >keep working without that question...bizarre - "not all virus are created equal"... >no democracy on virus land ; ) > > > >Paulo Abreu I am using 1.55 and have *never* had this problem! Incidentally I have noticed that although the knobs on my Virus are callibrated from 0-12 the ranges 0-1.5 and 10.5-12 (approx.) seem to be "dead zones" with parameter changes being generated only between 1.5-10.5. This seems a bit of a shame (well quite a big shame really). Does everybody else's Virus work like this or is mine unique. Are Canine's Little Green Monsters to be held responsible due to their choice of parts on the day they put mine together? Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 20:35:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.de Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:05:25 +0100 Subject: Change of the sound??? * From: Martin Zuther Hey! When I uploaded the system 1.56 into my virus I think I noticed the sound changed afterwards. Could that be? I don't want to start a discussion about lunar influences and using the power plug the wrong way round, though. It just seemed to me that the sound of the filters changed - I played a new SINGLE (with 1.54) for some time, then uploaded the system and played again. Anyone else who noticed the same thing??? Strange... BTW, I'd like to have a parameter to change the length of a note when played in an arpeggio (new note every 1/8, but just 1/16 long and vice versa). Would be great! Martin mzuther@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 11 22:57:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:54:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: insects and a question * From: Rick Reyes Say boy, Waz up!!! Have you tried slowing the attack a bit. That seems to help on a lot of synths with really fast attack times. Rick ---access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: CrAzYjOn > >I'm trying to make a Buzzsaw type sound (bassish)...and I'm not quite getting >it to come ripping through....any tips would be most appriciated > >also when I program patches, alot of times I end up with a lot of clicking, and slight poping on the attack of the sound...any ideas why? > >Peace >CrazyJon > >What up Rick!!!!......Mundo!!!!!!!!!! > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 05:36:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:33:31 EST Subject: Re: ot: drumKat dk-10 * From: Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 11/11/98 9:25:32 AM, access-list@tl36.teklab.com writes: >Hello, >does someboby of you know how to use an drumKAT dk-10? I got one without manual, and need to know, how to change the Channel / Note and Velocity per Pad Try: http://www.katpercussion.com/ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 09:33:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:30:45 +0100 Subject: Re: insects and a question * From: Dimitri S At 01:20 12-11-98 -0800, you wrote: >* From: Pytel Thomas >>also when I program patches, alot of times I end up with a lot of clicking, and slight poping on the attack of the sound...any ideas why? I am afraid that you have the same 'clicking' problem as I have. The pop on the attack of the sound is the punch feature I suppose, but the other clicking, is it irregularly and especially when you use more than one single? If you try to - lower the attacks - lower the OSC-feedback - lower sustains - lower osc volume - lower sub-osc volume - lower filter volume All to a very low level like 30, and if the problem persists, you have the same clicking problem as I have. There is the possibility to dump all active programms, and to send them to teklab. (Which I still have to do) Maybe, they can find out what the problem is. Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 08:11:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:18:57 -0800 Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: equality between Virii? * From: Pytel Thomas access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>Paulo Abreu > >I am using 1.55 and have *never* had this problem! > >Incidentally I have noticed that although the knobs on my Virus are callibrated from 0-12 the ranges 0-1.5 and 10.5-12 (approx.) seem to be "dead zones" with parameter changes being generated only between 1.5-10.5. This seems a bit of a shame (well quite a big shame really). Does everybody else's Virus work like this or is mine unique. Are Canine's Little Green Monsters to be held responsible due to their choice of parts on the day they put mine together? Yeah actually, I noticed that too. Weird. I wonder if that is an actual hardware limitation of the knobs, or if you could possibly calibrate them in software for the full range. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 08:12:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:20:01 -0800 Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: insects and a question * From: Pytel Thomas >* From: CrAzYjOn > >I'm trying to make a Buzzsaw type sound (bassish)...and I'm not quite getting it to come ripping through....any tips would be most appriciated > >also when I program patches, alot of times I end up with a lot of clicking, and slight poping on the attack of the sound...any ideas why? Try making the amp and filter attacks a little slower, also, lower the punch intensity on the attack in one of the menus. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 11:31:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:28:21 +0100 Subject: Re: insects and a question * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:30 AM +0100 on 12.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >All to a very low level like 30, and if the problem persists, you have the same clicking problem as I have. There is the possibility to dump all active programms, and to send them to teklab. (Which I still have to do) Maybe, they can find out what the problem is. again, you probably mean ACCESS, not TEKLAB. Teklab just run the mailinglist, Access makes the Virus...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 12:12:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:49:35 +0100 Subject: OS 1.57 available * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Dear list, Version 1.57 of the Virus operating system is available from my page. It mainly kills the bug where the Virus (some machines) keeps asking you if you want to reload the factory presets whenever the Virus is switched on. One new feature is also added (see below for english description): -COMMON KeyMode: Hold Der Hold-Mode ist ein neuer polyphoner Mode, bei dem die Noten gehalten werden, auch nachdem die Tasten losgelassen wurden. Erst wenn alle Tasten losgelassen wurden und eine neue Taste gedrückt wird, werden die bis dahin gehaltenen Noten intern losgelassen. Dieser Mode arbeitet also ähnlich wie der Arpeggiator Hold, betrifft aber direkt die einzelnen Noten. The Hold mode is a new polyphonic mode, where the notes are held, even when the keys are released. Only when all keys are released, and a new key is played, those notes that were held till now, are internally released. So this mode works similar to the Arpeggiator Hold, but directly affects the individual notes. the address is in the signature below. enjoy! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 12:42:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: wmf@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:40:59 +0100 Subject: OS 1.57 available * From: Wolfram Franke Hi all, the Virus Operating System V1.57 can now also be downloaded through the TSi web page. I am not sure if it still contains some bugs but we made it "official" anyway. You can get it from: http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Have fun with it. Best wishes, Wolfram Franke --------------------------------------------------------------- Wolfram Franke TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 wmf@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de New Phone #: +49-(0)2636-9764-0 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de New Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 --------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 13:19:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:16:39 +0100 Subject: Re: insects and a question * From: Dimitri S At 11:28 12-11-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 9:30 AM +0100 on 12.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>All to a very low level like 30, and if the problem persists, you have the same clicking problem as I have. There is the possibility to dump all active programms, and to send them to teklab. (Which I still have to do) Maybe, they can find out what the problem is. > >again, you probably mean ACCESS, not TEKLAB. Teklab just run the mailinglist, Access makes the Virus...;) O NOOO! I did it again!! Can't teklab and access have a fusion, so that I am not confused anypore? Okay, so, those clicking patches, mail them to ACCESS, not teklab! Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 12 19:01:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:03:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: insects and a question * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Dimitri S >If you try to >- lower the attacks >- lower the OSC-feedback >- lower sustains >- lower osc volume >- lower sub-osc volume >- lower filter volume >All to a very low level like 30, and if the problem persists, you have the >same clicking problem as I have. There is the possibility to dump all >active programms, and to send them to teklab. (Which I still have to do) >Maybe, they can find out what the problem is. Same over here...I reported this almost half a year back... But sometimes it's gone, but most of the times it's there, but not too noticable. It's there very random, it's not always there, but definitely on fast attacked sound. Not only on my own programmed sounds, but also the presets like the e-piano (v-wurl). I will try the above suggestions...but doubt it will work. Hmmm, the envelope is too fast which causes clicks? Is that possible? Never noticed it with analog synths, I did notice it with a few digital synths. btw: I called TSI holland a few weeks ago asking if they had the rackmount kit for the Virus. They told me that they hadn't received it yet (it wasn't available yet) and that they would get it in November. Hopefully I will get it at least before March when I have a gig and want to have the Virus in my rack. Still, a virus is wonderful to have :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl btw: you're the 3rd dutch guy who said he had clicking-problems, I'm beginning to think that our voltage is not oke hahaha little bit to much voltage.... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 01:56:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:27:48 -0600 Subject: Re[2]: ot: drumKat dk-10 * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) Also, Hook up a pedal to the back of it. Depress the pedal and hit a pad to drop into edit mode. ...at least my drumkat 3.7 works that way. Mundo WikidDrama-Dallas ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ot: drumKat dk-10 Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 11/11/98 11:33 PM * From: Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 11/11/98 9:25:32 AM, access-list@tl36.teklab.com writes: >Hello, >does someboby of you know how to use an drumKAT dk-10? I got one without manual, and need to know, how to change the Channel / Note and Velocity per Pad Try: http://www.katpercussion.com/ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 07:19:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:18:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Patches degrading * From: bob frye YES! I thought I was loosing my mind... a number of my programs are garbled, both in name and in sound.. running 1.55, although 1.57 is due to go online shortly... Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 00:14:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: insects and a question * From: Rick Reyes >possible? Never noticed it with analog synths, I did notice it with a few digital synths. Just incase you guys & gals (if any) are interested, My Microwave II, Virus, JP8000 and A3000 all suffer from the Click syndrom. So it seems to be very common. It is usually discribed as being extremely fast attacks. I wonder why the rack ears are available all the way over the pond and not in Holland. Yes, I am thrilled to have my Virus back in my life... Rick >btw: I called TSI holland a few weeks ago asking if they had the rackmount kit for the Virus. They told me that they hadn't received it yet (it wasn't available yet) and that they would get it in November. Hopefully I will get it at least before March when I have a gig and want to have the Virus in my rack. > >Still, a virus is wonderful to have :-) > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 00:31:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:30:07 EST Subject: Re: insects and a question * From: CKe9644719@aol.com Hi list, > >Same over here...I reported this almost half a year back... But sometimes it's gone, but most of the times it's there, but not too noticable. >It's there very random, it's not always there, but definitely on fast attacked sound. Not only on my own programmed sounds, but also the presets like the e-piano (v-wurl). > >I will try the above suggestions...but doubt it will work. Hmmm, the envelope is too fast which causes clicks? Is that possible? Never noticed it with analog synths, I did notice it with a few digital synths. > Yes, this is possible. When the attack is zero, the Virus creates an indefinitely fast attack, if you see it from the digital domain. That means, the attack happens from one sample to the other. This is truely not an analog behavior, but we didn't want to limit that possibility, since the attack is controllable on high resolution. Check it: Select only sine wave, pull the filter to the high end and turn up the Punch Intensity. What you get is a loud click on the attack . Now you can tune the sound of this attack click by the first few values of the attack controller like it was a low pass filter. On attack value 8 the attack time is still only 8 samples. Anyway, I would be interested in how the clicks happen in your situation or sounds. 1. I could not notice clicks on factory sound e-piano (v-wurl). Do the clicks happen on high polyphony or independent from this? 2. Do these clicks always disappear when the attack is longer? (They should!) 3. Do the clicks still appear if the Oscillator PhaseInit is set to a value exept off? (It should not) Thanks for your support. Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 00:48:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:47:56 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 Subject: Patches degrading * From: Simon Gatrall I posted messages about this problem a long time ago, and no one could solve my problem, but maybe now there is a solution. My Virus's memory gets corrupted slowly. The most obvious symptom is that the patch names are slowly getting mangled. Many of them have characters in them that you can't enter from the front panel (e.g. the arrows). I'm using v1.54 of the OS. A while ago I talked with one of the US service people and he mentioned an early problem that some Viruses (Viri?) had with one of the internal cables being crimped. I opened my unit up and I could see no evidence of that problem. Christophe Kemper suggested that the back up battery might be prematurely bad, but I haven't checked that yet. Has any one else had this problem? Has any one solved it? -s!mon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 10:42:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:46:24 +0000 Subject: Re: Upgrading the system * From: monokrom@sirius.com I'm also having the same problem. I'm using Cubase VST24/Mac PowerPC/Studio4. What's up? Monokrom access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Rutger van Dongen > >Hi List, > >While sending the OS 1.57 to my Virus my system crashed (about 15 seconds after starting to send the midi-file). After rebooting the system I tried to continue sending the midi-file to the Virus. Because it didn't respond I switched it off and then back on again (holding the STORE-button). But now the Virus didn't seem to respond to that and just entered normal playing mode... I tried the procedure (switching on while holding the STORE-button) several times again, but don't get the expected result anymore. Does anybody know a way to solve this problem? > >Thanks, >Rutger. > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 09:38:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:37:03 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Thank you Access! * From: Dimitri Sijperda Thank you for the new OS1.57! Again, I am very happy with the OS upgrade service. It's always a nice ritual which takes some minutes. And when you turn on the 'new' virus, I always wonder how the new opening screen will be. Aha! No factory-bank-load-procedure anymore. Good. Gonna take a look now, bye! Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 09:58:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:51:51 +0100 Subject: RE: Patches degrading * From: Oliver Szigan Hi Simon, hi list, I'm having the same problem. Some of my patches (all above #100, banks A+B) are having these scrambled names since a few weeks. I did not try to solve it because the sounds are still ok... I'm using OS 1.53. cheers.. Oliver >-----Original Message----- >From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com [SMTP:access-list@tl36.teklab.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 12:48 AM To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Subject: Patches degrading > >* From: Simon Gatrall > >I posted messages about this problem a long time ago, and no one could solve my problem, but maybe now there is a solution. > >My Virus's memory gets corrupted slowly. The most obvious symptom is that >the patch names are slowly getting mangled. Many of them have characters >in them that you can't enter from the front panel (e.g. the arrows). I'm >using v1.54 of the OS. A while ago I talked with one of the US service >people and he mentioned an early problem that some Viruses (Viri?) had with one of the internal cables being crimped. I opened my unit up and I >could see no evidence of that problem. Christophe Kemper suggested that >the back up battery might be prematurely bad, but I haven't checked that >yet. > >Has any one else had this problem? Has any one solved it? > >-s!mon > > >********** >********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 10:10:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:06:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Upgrading the system * From: Rutger van Dongen Hi List, While sending the OS 1.57 to my Virus my system crashed (about 15 seconds after starting to send the midi-file). After rebooting the system I tried to continue sending the midi-file to the Virus. Because it didn't respond I switched it off and then back on again (holding the STORE-button). But now the Virus didn't seem to respond to that and just entered normal playing mode... I tried the procedure (switching on while holding the STORE-button) several times again, but don't get the expected result anymore. Does anybody know a way to solve this problem? Thanks, Rutger. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 11:18:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:13:24 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: Upgrading the system * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >I'm also having the same problem. I'm using Cubase VST24/Mac PowerPC/Studio4. What's up? >>While sending the OS 1.57 to my Virus my system crashed (about 15 seconds after starting to send the midi-file). Here it worked perfectly (by using Logic Audio Platinum 3.5/3.6 Windows and a Unitor8). With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 12:02:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:56:53 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: (no subject) * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >This change has, however caused a small bug to appear when you edit the wave (osc1 or osc2) in the edit menu. The word "gal" appears. Looks like the last 3 letters of "illegal". same happens here :( With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 10:21:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:18:47 +0000 Subject: (no subject) * From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de Installed V1.57 last night. Not only is the bug (factory sounds) cured, but one of my wishes has come true. You can now see which wave was selected *before* you moved the wave knob. Excellent . Thanks, Access. This change has, however caused a small bug to appear when you edit the wave (osc1 or osc2) in the edit menu. The word "gal" appears. Looks like the last 3 letters of "illegal". Competition: I will send a patch to the first person who can tell me what the name of the first patch in my "soundz.zip" means. JAH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 14:20:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl (Unverified) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:16:15 +0100 Subject: Bug found in OS1.57? * From: Dimitri S Hello! I installed the new OS ytesterday evening, and took very little time to test it, but i notivced that when I turn assign 1 or 2, the Display remains on that info screen. When I turn another knob, the display switches very quickly between the assign display and the displayfor the knob being turned. I also saw this with another button than the assign button, but I don't remeber which. This weekend I will try to find out more. Dimitri ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 16:16:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:16:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Upgrading the system * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 13 november 1998 11:40 Onderwerp: Re: Upgrading the system |* From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) | |>heya< | |>I'm also having the same problem. I'm using Cubase VST24/Mac PowerPC/Studio4. |>What's up? | |>> While sending the OS 1.57 to my Virus my system crashed (about 15 seconds |>> after starting to send the midi-file). | | Here it worked perfectly (by using Logic Audio Platinum 3.5/3.6 Windows and a |Unitor8). | Talking about timing (midi) and grooves. LOGIC rules !! Bill Hamel did send me a great CD with some nice music. It grooved very tight and I did asked him which sequencer software he used.. I could have known it....Logic Unitor-8 timing must me equal to the old ATARI this means also no troubles with sysex. Rob | |With greetings from Germany | |Sascha Kujawa |Quality Assurance Manager |Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 16:17:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:16:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: I mean very Cool * From: "Rob Papen" I haven't seen it on the access list. But I love the CORD in the arpeggiator. Thanks...Access Did anybody did some cool things with it and tried it out ? I used yesterday again the Virus in the Studio (on M3 Monitors of DYNAUDIO ACOUSTIC). Man what does this machine sound cool !! Never get lost of this Virus, Let the infection be with you Rob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl Address: ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 Account number: Rabobank Pey-Posterholt 14.20.11.649 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is out our comming out: -Signature Sound-Set for Access Virus (out !!) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for EMU EOS samplers (release in November 1998) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for AKAI samplers (release beginning 1999) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 18:28:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:30:51 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: insects and a question * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Rick Reyes > >I wonder why the rack ears are available all the way over the pond and not in Holland. Yes, I am thrilled to have my Virus back in my life... Well, if someone on this list wants to sell the rack ears...will pay good money for it! (don't know how much it costs though). I think I'm waiting over 6 months now for it...and waited for the Virus almost a year... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl (have anyone in Holland seen the rack ears then?) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 22:07:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:58:47 +0100 X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de Subject: Re: insects and a question * From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) access-list@tl36.teklab.com schrieb: >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >>* From: Rick Reyes >> >>I wonder why the rack ears are available all the way over the pond and not in Holland. Yes, I am thrilled to have my Virus back in my life... > >Well, if someone on this list wants to sell the rack ears...will pay good money for it! (don't know how much it costs though). I think I'm waiting over 6 months now for it...and waited for the Virus almost >a year... > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels >Email :fsp@wxs.nl >(have anyone in Holland seen the rack ears then?) >Hi , why don`t you build your own rack-ears ? I`ve done it. It`s a very simple thing.Maybe you have connections to a manufactor of metal-parts.Ask them to build these rack-ears. When not, you can actually do it at home. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens Wegerhoff > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 10:20:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:28:52 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Change of the sound??? * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >BTW, I'd like to have a parameter to change the length of a note when played in an arpeggio (new note every 1/8, but just 1/16 long and vice versa). Would be great! > >Martin >mzuther@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther Yeah, something like "gate time" for arpeggiated notes would be well cool especially if you could assign it to one of the definable knobs. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 00:03:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:03:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: insects and a question * From: Rick Reyes Call the American Distributor GSF. They got them for a friend in no time. I personally use mine in the table top way. Rick >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >>* From: Rick Reyes >> >>I wonder why the rack ears are available all the >Well, if someone on this list wants to sell the rack ears...will pay good >money for it! (don't know how much it costs though). I think I'm waiting over 6 months now for it...and waited for the Virus >almost >a year... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 00:21:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:17:59 -0800 Subject: Re: OS code * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Hey, this is a long shot, but... I wonder if it would be possible for Access to release the Virus OS source code and a compiler/simulator for the DSP. Seeing as how the Virus is pretty much a computer dedicated to audio synthesis/processing, I think it would be pretty cool to be able to mess with it like that directly. Sure, then we can all make Virus clones and Access can go out of business. I'm just as happy with them releasing the OS versions the way they are. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 13 23:51:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:59:12 -0800 Organization: @Home Network Subject: OS code * From: Pytel Thomas Hey, this is a long shot, but... I wonder if it would be possible for Access to release the Virus OS source code and a compiler/simulator for the DSP. Seeing as how the Virus is pretty much a computer dedicated to audio synthesis/processing, I think it would be pretty cool to be able to mess with it like that directly. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 03:12:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:21:39 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: I mean very Cool * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net rob, ive found this useless, how are you using it??? P.s. im starting my ring mod writing campaign : ) weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Rob Papen" > >I haven't seen it on the access list. > >But I love the CORD in the arpeggiator. Thanks...Access Did anybody did some cool things with it and tried it out ? > >I used yesterday again the Virus in the Studio (on M3 Monitors of DYNAUDIO ACOUSTIC). >Man what does this machine sound cool !! > >Never get lost of this Virus, > >Let the infection be with you > >Rob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 11:36:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:35:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Patches degrading * From: "Howard Scarr" >My Virus's memory gets corrupted slowly. The most obvious symptom is that the patch names are slowly getting mangled. Many of them have characters in them that you can't enter from the front panel (e.g. the arrows)... Has any one else had this problem? Has any one solved it? I have the same problem (v1.54). A127 is often corrupted, others just now and again. Sometimes I'm not quite sure whether a sound is the same as before - not a nice "feature", that! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 16:29:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:26:40 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Nasty Bug * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) I experienced a nasty bug today after installing the OS upgrade: in Multi Mode (something I don't use very often, I confess), I had just two parts active, on the same channel, playing arpeggios. One was playing 16ths, the other chords at 32nds. If I play a biggish chord, the whole synth erupts into a horrible digital noise and totally hangs, resulting in a need to switch off. Happens every time. So I stopped doing it. Can anyone else confirm this one? Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 18:35:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:32:42 +0100 Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: Joerg Meissner >Installed V1.57 last night. Not only is the bug (factory sounds) cured, but one of my wishes has come true. You can now see which wave was selected *before* you moved the wave knob. Excellent . Thanks, Access. This change has, however caused a small bug to appear when you edit the wave (osc1 or osc2) in the edit menu. The word "gal" appears. Looks like the last 3 letters of "illegal". >same happens here :( >With greetings from Germany > >Sascha Kujawa >Quality Assurance Manager <--- ;) >Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH (access got a bug-report from emagic quality assurance manager :) - great! ) Ups ! I've forgotten to change this fuckin' Edit-Pages (well, I take the "WaveSel" knobs usualy !). Bug will be fixed very very quickly, i swear !!! It won't generate ugly things but only a few bad characters in the display - don't worry about that - virus will sound as good as it ever did before... :)) - AND IT WILL NEVER HANG UP BECAUSE OF THAT BUG ! (interesting for girls and guys, who will have a "performance" in near future). Ups ! Another little tickling insect: New EDIT-Pages "Part-Enable" and "MidiChannel" in MULTI-EDIT-Mode let the lighten LED migrate to the CTRL-KEY...oh..oh...I'm sorry for that ! Bug will be fixed very very quickly, i swear !!! Thank you all for your support! Jörg Meißner access Joerg Meissner ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 16:30:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:37:38 -0800 Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: OS code * From: Pytel Thomas access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >>Hey, this is a long shot, but... I wonder if it would be possible for Access to release the Virus OS source code and a compiler/simulator for the DSP. Seeing as how the Virus is pretty much a computer dedicated to audio synthesis/processing, I think it would be pretty cool to be able to mess with it like that directly. > >Sure, then we can all make Virus clones and Access can go out of business. > >I'm just as happy with them releasing the OS versions the way they are. Other Virus-like machines are gonna come out anyway. So far, the Virus itself has merely been the most flexible/tweakable bang for the buck. I'm very glad they decided to make the firmware upgradable so easily. It just seems a shame that there is no lower level access to what is such an ideal box for all sorts of synth possibilities. You do have a point though, I suppose they could not realistically do that. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 18:55:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:59:34 -0500 Subject: (no subject) * From: Primal Scream I just got a virus. about 4 hours ago.. seriously. I just got it used (imagine that?!). Anyways.. i noticed in the MULTIs.. the patches were all messed up, like it was described before, with all the wierd characters. Some of the don't even play. I'm about to upgrade the OS. i belive it's currently running 1.54. any ideas why this is happening? Eric ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 14 19:41:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:42:05 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: I mean very Cool * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: zaterdag 14 november 1998 3:26 Onderwerp: Re: I mean very Cool |* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net | |rob, |ive found this useless, how are you using it??? He? Useless. I dreamed of it since I was 3 years old.(just kidding) Well use midi-clock, sync the LFO 2 to both filters (ofcourse clock them with 2/1). Play the sequencer (adjust the ENV. and enjoy). You can do fantastic things with it. Especially for dance. Shall I place a sound of it on my page (MIDIFILE) as example? Rob | |P.s. im starting my ring mod writing campaign : ) |weld | |access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: |> |> * From: "Rob Papen" |> |> I haven't seen it on the access list. |> |> But I love the CORD in the arpeggiator. Thanks...Access |> Did anybody did some cool things with it and tried it out ? |> |> I used yesterday again the Virus in the Studio (on M3 Monitors of DYNAUDIO |> ACOUSTIC). |> Man what does this machine sound cool !! |> |> Never get lost of this Virus, |> |> Let the infection be with you |> |> Rob |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 01:22:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:25:17 -0500 Subject: midiclock +arpeg. problem * From: Primal Scream I can't seem to get the midi clock from my mcp to set the arppeggio of the virus. I know it's supposed to be done automatically, and a little 'c' should appear. This DOES happen, yet they aren't synced. the arppeggio of the virus doesn't syncin to the mpc. I've asked lots of other people, even sokme who are using an mcp also, and they just tell me to do what i've already done. I'm tryed all the settings also, it just doesn't seem to work. any ideads? Eric ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 05:40:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:40:04 -0800 Subject: Timing problems (w/ sequencer) * From: David Battenfield While playing a simple song in Logic 2.6, my Virus is getting choked up when i turn knobs(cutoff 1&2). the simple sequence of 3 tracks slows down the Virus, and the sequence (bpm), and the (computer)screen freezes for a bit. Wondering if anyone has any ideas of why this is happening? ***I was using Studio Vision to sequence and everything worked fine w/ the Virus computer: mac pwr pc 6100 32 megs ram 1 gig HD eqpt: access VIRUS w/ sys 1.54 emu morpheus emi esi 32 Thanks -David Korg dW 8000 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 16:51:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:48:39 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) * From: CKe9644719@aol.com In einer eMail vom 14.11.98 19:02:24 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >I just got a virus. about 4 hours ago.. seriously. I just got it used (imagine that?!). Anyways.. i noticed in the MULTIs.. the patches were all messed up, like it was described before, with all the wierd characters. Some >of the don't even play. I'm about to upgrade the OS. i belive it's currently >running 1.54. >any ideas why this is happening? Welcome to the family. I suggest to get the new OS (currently 1.57) and have a watch on the readme file to see what new features we already have that are not yet described in the manual. For the messed patches, I suggest to do a system reset with reloading the factory sounds. This procedure is also described in the readme file. Ciao Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 16:51:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:48:43 EST Subject: Re: midiclock +arpeg. problem * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >I can't seem to get the midi clock from my mcp to set the arppeggio of the >virus. I know it's supposed to be done automatically, and a little 'c' should appear. This DOES happen, yet they aren't synced. the arppeggio of the virus doesn't syncin to the mpc. I've asked lots of other people, even sokme who are using an mcp also, and they just tell me to do what i've already done. I'm tryed all the settings also, it just doesn't seem to work. >any ideads? Normally, your arp should be already synced by that point (I mean if you see the little 'c'. Does the arpeggiator react to the clock in any manner? E.g. does it change the tempo if you change the tempo of the sequencer? Does it play a totally different tempo than the sequenzer, or how does the problem appear? Ciao Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 16:51:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:48:44 EST Subject: Re: Timing problems (w/ sequencer) * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >While playing a simple song in Logic 2.6, my Virus is getting choked up >when i turn knobs(cutoff 1&2). the simple sequence of 3 tracks slows down the Virus, and the sequence (bpm), and the (computer)screen freezes for a bit. >Wondering if anyone has any ideas of why this is happening? ***I was using Studio Vision to sequence and everything worked fine w/ the Virus I hope I got that right: The Virus does not hang up but the sequence slows down each time you turn a knob? Then the problem is the sequenzer, that gets in trouble if the Virus sends controllers back. But don't ask me why. Ciao Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 17:10:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:14:32 -0500 Subject: Re: midiclock +arpeg. problem * From: Primal Scream >Normally, your arp should be already synced by that point (I mean if you see the little 'c'. >Does the arpeggiator react to the clock in any manner? E.g. does it change the tempo if you change the tempo of the sequencer? Does it play a totally different tempo than the sequenzer, or how does the problem appear? > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access There's no change, even when i change the tempo on the mpc. I don't understand why.. the tempo always stays the same. Eric ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 17:51:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:46:19 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: I mean very Cool * From: "Anig Browl" >Man what does this machine sound cool !! > >Never get lost of this Virus, > >Let the infection be with you > >Rob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl So do your patches! I just got my Virus last night (at-choo!) and your sounds are very sick :-) They certainly raised my temperature. And I am still only on A36! Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 18:44:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:43:25 EST Subject: Re: midiclock +arpeg. problem * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >>Normally, your arp should be already synced by that point (I mean if you see >>the little 'c'. >>Does the arpeggiator react to the clock in any manner? E.g. does it change >the >>tempo if you change the tempo of the sequencer? Does it play a totally different tempo than the sequenzer, or how does the problem appear? > >There's no change, even when i change the tempo on the mpc. I don't understand why.. the tempo always stays the same. Then it's possible that your arpeggiator sound is not switched to the clock. Did you select a Clock resolution value in the menu Arpeggiator Clock ? Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 22:20:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: baldguys@mail.baynet.net Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:20:34 -0500 Subject: Re: (no subject) * From: Adam Hodgins How much did you pay for it used? >I just got a virus. about 4 hours ago.. seriously. I just got it used ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 15 20:50:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:45:05 EST Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: CKe9644719@aol.com Hi Paul, I thought you gave away your Virus, now you are back, what happened? > >I experienced a nasty bug today after installing the OS upgrade: in Multi Mode (something I don't use very often, I confess), I had just two parts active, on the same channel, playing arpeggios. One was playing 16ths, the other chords at 32nds. If I play a biggish chord, the whole synth erupts into a horrible digital noise and totally hangs, resulting in a need to switch off. Happens every time. So I stopped doing it. > >Can anyone else confirm this one? Yes, I can. By hitting a big chord in arpeggiator chord mode on 32nds, you cause a high dynamical load, that the program did not expect. I it is hardly possible to get this effect by a 'regular' musical situation (whatever I call regular), or driven by midi. However, I already fixed this for the next version. Thanks Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 08:41:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:39:02 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:45:05 EST, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I thought you gave away your Virus, now you are back, what happened? Nope, all I can say is the Virus is still here and I've been here all along.... Tiny plug: the Virus appears nicely on my forthcoming album (Lore). ;-) >However, I already fixed this for the next version. Whoopee! Cool. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 08:40:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:40:21 -0800 Subject: Re: Timing problems (w/ sequencer) * From: David Battenfield >Then the problem is the sequenzer, that gets in trouble if the Virus sends controllers back. But don't ask me why. thanks for the response, and I agree that it is my sequencer. **Does anyone on the list use Logic to sequence their Virus? If so, does anyone know what could cause a controller/ midi data jam up?? Thanks, David ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 09:53:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:53:17 +0100 Sender: canine X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00001976 Subject: RE: Timing problems (w/ sequencer) * From: canine >===== Original Message From access-list@tl36.teklab.com ===== * From: David Battenfield > >>Then the problem is the sequenzer, that gets in trouble if the Virus sends controllers back. But don't ask me why. > >thanks for the response, and I agree that it is my sequencer. > >**Does anyone on the list use Logic to sequence their Virus? If so, does anyone know what could cause a controller/ midi data jam up?? Yes, I use Logic with my Virus and a Macintosh and an MTP II Midi (8x8) Midi interface. I have never had any such problems. One thing you might want to try is to switch "Sysex thru" off in the song preferences. The only other thing I could imagine would be a looped connection or a faulty cable, or possibly your environment is set up in a way that sends or generates too much MIDI data when you are sending controllers. I don't know, I'm just trying to point you into directions you might me overlooking...;) Canine ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: STW-Lemgo@t-online.de Mon Nov 16 10:26:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Date: Mon, 16 Nov 98 10:24 +0100 Subject: RE: Re: Huellkurven zum 3ten To: canine@muenster.de ("K.9 Kai Niggemann") X-Sender: 0526160060-0001@t-online.de From: STW-Lemgo@t-online.de (STW-Lemgo@t-online.de) At 10:59 AM +0100 on 13.11.1998 STW-Lemgo@t-online.de wrote: >Zwischen den Zeilen lese ich aus dieser Nachricht, daœ keine DSP-Kapazitît mehr >f―r eine "komfortable" H―llkurve zur Verf―gung steht. Da kann man nichts machen. oh. Hm. Nein. Warte mal ab. Sag es noch nicht weiter, aber ich glaube da ist noch etwas im Busch...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ich sage nix weiter, was denn ueberhaupt?? Welche mail meinst Du denn?? :-) (Aber ich bin gespannt) Gruss Oliver STW-Lemgo@t-online.deX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 10:27:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:26:36 +0200 X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 152e" Subject: Re: midiclock +arpeg. problem * From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com It never worked with my Virus either, i always have to set the same value for my global midiclock as i use in my sequencer (=Cubase) to match the tempo for the arpeggiator... Greetings, Steven If you need more information about the Atlas Copco Group, take a look at our Web Site: http://www.atlascopco.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 11:30:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:41:48 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >Ups ! Another little tickling insect: >New EDIT-Pages "Part-Enable" and "MidiChannel" in MULTI-EDIT-Mode let the lighten LED migrate to the CTRL-KEY...oh..oh...I'm sorry for that ! > >Bug will be fixed very very quickly, i swear !!! I have another (similar) one for you. If you press the 'control' button when in Multi mode you can only access the Control pages up to 'MIDI Channel'. Attempting to move to the next page which is 'Low Key' makes the virus flip out of Multi Control into Multi Edit. You have now no access to key ranges, prog enable, MIDI Vol enable and Hold enable. So it goes on my machine anyway. Does anybody else get this? Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 13:17:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: milosevi@toxi1.ethz.ch Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:30:28 +0200 Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: milosevic@toxi.biol.ethz.ch >* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > > >>Ups ! Another little tickling insect: >>New EDIT-Pages "Part-Enable" and "MidiChannel" in MULTI-EDIT-Mode let the lighten LED migrate to the CTRL-KEY...oh..oh...I'm sorry for that ! >> >>Bug will be fixed very very quickly, i swear !!! > > >I have another (similar) one for you. If you press the 'control' button when in Multi mode you can only access the Control pages up to 'MIDI Channel'. Attempting to move to the next page which is 'Low Key' makes the virus flip out of Multi Control into Multi Edit. You have now no access to key ranges, prog enable, MIDI Vol enable and Hold enable. > >So it goes on my machine anyway. Does anybody else get this? > >Steve (n-tropic) > Yep, same thing on my Virus with ver. 1.57. Neni <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> ############### ## ## ## ## ## Eidgenoessische Technische Hochschule Zuerich ##### ## ####### Ecole polytechnique federale de Zurich ## ## ## ## Politecnico federale di Zurigo ###### ## ## ## Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich NENAD MILOSEVIC Cellular Toxicology e-mail: milosevic@toxi.biol.ethz.ch Institute of Toxicology Schorenstrasse 16 phone: (+41) 01 / 825 74 66 CH-8603 Schwerzenbach FAX: (+41) 01 / 825 04 76 <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 14:59:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:56:08 +0100 Subject: RE: insects and a question * From: Dimitri S >Well, if someone on this list wants to sell the rack ears...will pay good money for it! (don't know how much it costs though). I think I'm waiting over 6 months now for it...and waited for the Virus almost >a year... I wanted to try the Virus. The shopkeeper in Amsterdam told me he ordered 2 pieces 6 months ago. Somebody paid for it in advance. He had waited 4 months. The shopkeeper oredered 1 extra. I bought that one extra before the other one which was paid for in advance went to the other customer! So for me it was try & buy. Glad I did it!! Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 15:05:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:02:07 +0100 Subject: Re: (no subject) * From: Dimitri S I am not from teklab, but maybe the patch memory was never written to in the factory? Try to reset the virus, including reloading the patch memory. (see manual, I don't know it by hed) Get infected! Dimitri. At 12:59 14-11-98 -0500, you wrote: >* From: Primal Scream > >I just got a virus. about 4 hours ago.. seriously. I just got it used (imagine that?!). Anyways.. i noticed in the MULTIs.. the patches were all messed up, like it was described before, with all the wierd characters. Some of the don't even play. I'm about to upgrade the OS. i belive it's currently running 1.54. >any ideas why this is happening? > >Eric ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 13:18:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:16:07 +0000 Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de >* From: Joerg Meissner > >Ups ! I've forgotten to change this fuckin' Edit-Pages (well, I take the "WaveSel" knobs usualy !). > Beavis: "Hey, Butthead, he said 'fuckin' ! ! Huh, he he." Butthead: "Yeah, 'fuckin'. That's cool !" Beavis: "But . . er . . you know . . there might be ladies present" Butthead: "Ladies rule. Huh, huh" Beavis:"Yeah, but Butthead, he said that word." Butthead:"Who cares? That's Joerg, and he helped program the Virus" Beavis"Oh, did he? Well I suppose that's OK then" Butthead:"Yeah, Virus rules" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 15:27:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:17:09 +0100 Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: Dimitri S >By hitting a big chord in arpeggiator chord mode on 32nds, you cause a high dynamical load, that the program did not expect. I it is hardly possible to get this effect by a 'regular' musical situation (whatever I call regular), or >driven by midi. >However, I already fixed this for the next version. I was wondering, does this mean that hitting a chord in chord app mode consumes processor time of one voice? Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 15:26:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:23:04 +0100 Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: Dimitri S I tried multimode this weekend for the frist time, and that was the reason I decided not to use it anymore! Guess I am gonna find out the advantages of multi mode in os 1.58 Dimitri. >>>Ups ! Another little tickling insect: New EDIT-Pages "Part-Enable" and "MidiChannel" in MULTI-EDIT-Mode let the lighten LED migrate to the CTRL-KEY...oh..oh...I'm sorry for that ! Bug will be fixed very very quickly, i swear !!! >>I have another (similar) one for you. If you press the 'control' button when in Multi mode you can only access the Control pages up to 'MIDI Channel'. Attempting to move to the next page which is 'Low Key' makes the virus flip out of Multi Control into Multi Edit. You have now no access to key ranges, prog enable, MIDI Vol enable and Hold enable. >Yep, same thing on my Virus with ver. 1.57. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply!!!!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 16:40:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:50:14 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net in my humble opinion these are mostly bullocks! the virus is my fave poly synth of all time! i believe the roland JP's were very dissapointing. weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de > >Some quite interesting opinions: > >http://bunji.realitycom.com/kilo4-3/chat/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2038 > >J.A.H. > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 16:07:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:05:45 +0100 X-Accept-Language: en CC: Meissner@tl36.teklab.com, Jörg@tl36.teklab.com Subject: A Wish - After all, it's Christmas soon... * From: Stefan Nee Hello Virusers, I would like to see a preview command in the next OS upgrade (I'm almost certain that there ain't one at the moment). That way I could program my little red devil without the need for a keyboard or midi controller. Very convenient for those family gatherings a month from now... //Stefan ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 16:34:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:31:02 -0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Timing problems (w/ sequencer) * From: "Paulo Abreu" >While playing a simple song in Logic 2.6, my Virus is getting choked up when i turn knobs(cutoff 1&2). the simple sequence of 3 tracks slows down the Virus, and the sequence (bpm), and the (computer)screen freezes for a bit. Wondering if anyone has any ideas of why this is happening? ***I was using Studio Vision to sequence and everything worked fine w/ the Virus > >computer: mac pwr pc 6100 >32 megs ram >1 gig HD I never had any midi timming problems with Opcode Vision and I work with an old Powerbook (540c) so the only reasonable explanation for this is a Midiloop with the CC data. Check any possible midi routing that can happen inside Logic... Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 16:29:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:27:20 +0000 Subject: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 * From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de Some quite interesting opinions: http://bunji.realitycom.com/kilo4-3/chat/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2038 J.A.H. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 21:38:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:28:15 +0100 Subject: Re: (no subject) * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:02 PM +0100 on 16.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I am not from teklab, but maybe the patch memory was never written to in the factory? access. no? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 18:34:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:33:53 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Access mailinglist history. * From: Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I always keep the messages of this mailinglist in a special mailbox. It's 2 Mbyte uncompressed now.... Does anybody want this document of knowledge? Like some kind of FAQ, but then a AAQ (All Asked Questions)? Of course I will ZIP it... :-) I coud also put it on my page. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 21:37:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:41:14 +0100 Subject: Re: Access mailinglist history. * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:33 PM +0100 on 16.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I always keep the messages of this mailinglist in a special mailbox. It's 2 Mbyte uncompressed now.... Does anybody want this document of knowledge? Like some kind of FAQ, but then a AAQ (All Asked Questions)? Of course I will ZIP it... :-) >I coud also put it on my page. I have all the messages and want to make it a searchable index on my site, but haven't had the time to figure out the best way to do it. In the meantime put it on your page, why not! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 19:41:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:43:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: multi edit/control * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > >I have another (similar) one for you. If you press the 'control' button when >in Multi mode you can only access the Control pages up to 'MIDI Channel'. >Attempting to move to the next page which is 'Low Key' makes the virus flip >out of Multi Control into Multi Edit. You have now no access to key ranges, >prog enable, MIDI Vol enable and Hold enable. > >So it goes on my machine anyway. Does anybody else get this? Yes, I have it too. When I'm in Multi-Edit and move to the next pages it jumps to Control and after a few pages more it jumps back to Multi-edit. I don't mind, because it shows the part-enable on/off page then. I wish Part-enable on/off was in the Edit page anyway and not in Control...just my opinion of course. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 19:51:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:45:05 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:38:55 +0000, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >You are the second person to say they don't really use multimode which is amazing 'cos it's completely cool! You can make up an entire bleepy-blurpy I don't use Multi Mode much on any of my hoarde of synths....;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 19:27:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:38:55 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > >I tried multimode this weekend for the frist time, and that was the reason I decided not to use it anymore! Guess I am gonna find out the advantages of multi mode in os 1.58 > >Dimitri. > Well lets hope so mate! You are the second person to say they don't really use multimode which is amazing 'cos it's completely cool! You can make up an entire bleepy-blurpy analogue tune with just a Virus in multimode. Even if you don't use a sequencer imagine pads layered with multiple arpeggiators at different resolutions - well, OK you've got to watch the polyphony (how about a hardware upgrade to give us more voices access!) Also you can make up analogue drum kits using several parts on the same MIDI chanel each with a limited key range - or at least you could until this apparant bug in 1.57 which I'm sure will be sorted pretty damn quick. c'mon Access! Steve (n-tropic) >>>>Ups ! Another little tickling insect: New EDIT-Pages "Part-Enable" and "MidiChannel" in MULTI-EDIT-Mode let the lighten LED migrate to the CTRL-KEY...oh..oh...I'm sorry for that ! Bug will be fixed very very quickly, i swear !!! > >>>I have another (similar) one for you. If you press the 'control' button >when >>>in Multi mode you can only access the Control pages up to 'MIDI Channel'. Attempting to move to the next page which is 'Low Key' makes the virus >flip >>>out of Multi Control into Multi Edit. You have now no access to key >ranges, >>>prog enable, MIDI Vol enable and Hold enable. > >>Yep, same thing on my Virus with ver. 1.57. > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 21:31:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:41:30 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: multi edit/control * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net from what i hear genuine ring mod is coming one day, but i have never confirmed this with the access folks. now that im programming on this thing now, i really need a compare feature, and i think id like to have some other different types of saw, square, tri waves if it is possible technically. weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Daniel Cunningham > >I used to own a Nord Rack 2 and I gotta say this thing kicks its butt. >I just got my Virus 4 days ago and I'm almost glad my Nord was committed to a firey grave..(studio burned down, yuck) The features the Virus has the Nord lacked is endless. > >However. The Nord did have some cool features: Patch Morphing, RING MODULATION, Preview Button... Are these features coming or will there be a Virus II? Really the Ring Mod is the only one I really miss. > >Is there a way to get ring modulation by running a patch into another? >I don't even know exactly how ring modulation is made, just what it sounds like. Any ideas? > >As for wishlist mods... I just want to get the eeprom binaries and make it give me the finger when it turns on. that would be cool. maybe even make it make this really fat analog farting sound... > >No really, a preview function would be kinda nice (I have no midi controller) But it's really a bell more than anything, I usually just make my sequencer loop a short phrase over and over. Get a better feel for the keyfollowing that way too... > >Take ez... >dancmuse@yahoo.com >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 20:43:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:44:51 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: Dimitri Sijperda Ahaaaaa! That is quite interesting. I usually take a new channel for a new drum, so I run out of channels very quickly. So I can, for instance, Put a basedrum on c-4, a closed hihat on e-4 and an open hihat on f-4, when I use ranges of one note. Ahaaaa! Veery interesting. I just never tried it, never took the time. By the way, what sequencer do you use? I want to use some software seq on my PC. I work with FT2 now, which goes better than you'd expect. I still use this, because I don't trust crashing, slow, windows applications. Dimitri. At 19:38 16-11-98 +0000, you wrote: >* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>I tried multimode this weekend for the frist time, and that was the reason I decided not to use it anymore! Guess I am gonna find out the advantages of multi mode in os 1.58 >>Dimitri. >Well lets hope so mate! >You are the second person to say they don't really use multimode which is amazing 'cos it's completely cool! You can make up an entire ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 19:36:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:48:39 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Access mailinglist history. * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >Hello! > >I always keep the messages of this mailinglist in a special mailbox. It's 2 Mbyte uncompressed now.... Does anybody want this document of knowledge? Like some kind of FAQ, but then a AAQ (All Asked Questions)? Of course I will ZIP it... :-) >I coud also put it on my page. > >Dimitri. > I've got loads of it saved as well, but the trouble is it's very hard to find specific stuff out of it. For instance, just the other day Bilbo Baginz was saying something very interesting about FM and the pitch of osc1 but I can't find it now. Are you out there Mr. Baginz because I'm trying to get some cool DX type sounds out of my Virus (and yes I know that's dead unfashionable but those FM synths could make some cool sounds that I've not heard anything else manage - weird synthetic 'vocal' textures for instance) and mess with them using the Virus' filters. Can you (or anyone else) help? Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 21:07:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:09:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: multi edit/control * From: Daniel Cunningham I used to own a Nord Rack 2 and I gotta say this thing kicks its butt. I just got my Virus 4 days ago and I'm almost glad my Nord was committed to a firey grave..(studio burned down, yuck) The features the Virus has the Nord lacked is endless. However. The Nord did have some cool features: Patch Morphing, RING MODULATION, Preview Button... Are these features coming or will there be a Virus II? Really the Ring Mod is the only one I really miss. Is there a way to get ring modulation by running a patch into another? I don't even know exactly how ring modulation is made, just what it sounds like. Any ideas? As for wishlist mods... I just want to get the eeprom binaries and make it give me the finger when it turns on. that would be cool. maybe even make it make this really fat analog farting sound... No really, a preview function would be kinda nice (I have no midi controller) But it's really a bell more than anything, I usually just make my sequencer loop a short phrase over and over. Get a better feel for the keyfollowing that way too... Take ez... dancmuse@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 21:10:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:11:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: Daniel Cunningham Dimitri -- You should try IT 2.14. The MIDI support is very cool. (Macros) Unless they've improved FT2, last I checked it was purely notes and bends. You can send anything you want in IT, just type in the hex and put the right command and out the data goes. :-) Goodluck dancmuse@yahoo.com ---access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >Ahaaaaa! That is quite interesting. I usually take a new channel for a new >drum, so I run out of channels very quickly. So I can, for instance, Put a >basedrum on c-4, a closed hihat on e-4 and an open hihat on f-4, when I use >ranges of one note. Ahaaaa! Veery interesting. I just never tried it, never took the time. > >By the way, what sequencer do you use? I want to use some software seq on my >PC. I work with FT2 now, which goes better than you'd expect. I still use this, because I don't trust crashing, slow, windows applications. > >Dimitri. > > >At 19:38 16-11-98 +0000, you wrote: >>* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>>I tried multimode this weekend for the frist time, and that was the reason >>>I decided not to use it anymore! Guess I am gonna find out the advantages >>>of multi mode in os 1.58 >>>Dimitri. >>Well lets hope so mate! >>You are the second person to say they don't really use multimode which is >>amazing 'cos it's completely cool! You can make up an entire >---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda >ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 05:23:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:26:55 +0000 Subject: Enough!!! * From: monokrom@sirius.com Please let me go from this...Thanks for all the help when it was there. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 21:36:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:32:52 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: multi edit/control * From: "NightGoat" I wouldn't go so far as to say that this Virus is miles ahead of the Nord2. I've got both the Virus and the Nord Lead1(expanded), I can get some really raunchy sounds out of the Nord that I can't get out of the Virus. The Nord has a better low end, but the virus is way fatter(IMHO). They both have there distinct qualities to them. I would have to say that the Virus has more capabilities than the Nord, but that doesn't mean the Nord is not worthy. Both machines are great for what I do. >From what has been said on the list the Virus is going to be getting a Ring Modulator(YEEEAAAHHHH BABY). >SNIP< >I used to own a Nord Rack 2 and I gotta say this thing kicks its butt. >I just got my Virus 4 days ago and I'm almost glad my Nord was committed to a firey grave..(studio burned down, yuck) The features the Virus has the Nord lacked is endless. > >However. The Nord did have some cool features: Patch Morphing, RING MODULATION, Preview Button... Are these features coming or will there be a Virus II? Really the Ring Mod is the only one I really miss. SNIP< ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 22:11:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:07:34 -0800 Subject: TekLab Custom Software != Access Music * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 06:28 PM 11/16/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:02 PM +0100 on 16.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>I am not from teklab, but maybe the patch memory was never written to in the factory? >access. no? Yeah, we need to do something about this Canine. We *gotta* stop people from mistaking TekLab for the people that make the Virus. TekLab does *NOT* make the Access Virus! Access Music, a wonderful small company in Germany with some very cool engineers and very tech-savvy management, make the Access Virus. This list is a user-support group *only* - there is *no* affiliation with Access Virus whatsoever, other than we think they're extremely cool guys and we like their products! This mailing list, like a lot of the other mailing lists on TekLab, is a free user-supported community - that's all! I mean, I *wish* Access would contribute to it's operation (in a monetary fashion, heh heh) somehow, but as it is I'm *very* happy that they're as active on this list as they are. So, to re-iterate. Access Music make the Virus. TekLab Custom Software runs the user-supported mailing list - which is how you're getting this message. And the two companies have nothing to do with each other, so far anyway... If you want more details about TekLab Mailing lists, check this out: http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists.html j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 22:21:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:18:13 -0800 Subject: Re: TekLab Custom Software != Access Music * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >If you want more details about TekLab Mailing lists, check this out: > > http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists.html > Oops ... not enough coffee this morning. That URL should have been: http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/ Sorry for the mistake. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 16 23:22:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:23:35 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: TekLab Custom Software != Access Music * From: Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Did you know that this has been explained three times now, because I made the access/teklab mistake 3 times? In fact, people are not mistaking teklab for access and vice versa, I was always me. I just automatically type teklab. Maybe it's the name. So, I am not from teklab, and I am not from acess either, but I think a system reset will do. That is what my message should be. Sotrry for being a donkey repeatedly :-) Dimitri. >Yeah, we need to do something about this Canine. We *gotta* stop people from mistaking TekLab for the people that make the Virus. TekLab does *NOT* make the Access Virus! Access Music, a wonderful small company in Germany with some very cool engineers and very tech-savvy management, make the Access Virus. > >This list is a user-support group *only* - there is *no* affiliation with Access Virus whatsoever, other than we think they're extremely cool guys and we like their products! >This mailing list, like a lot of the other mailing lists on TekLab, is a free user-supported community - that's all! I mean, I *wish* Access would contribute to it's operation (in a monetary fashion, heh heh) somehow, but as it is I'm *very* happy that they're as active on this list as they are. So, to re-iterate. Access Music make the Virus. TekLab Custom Software runs the user-supported mailing list - which is how you're getting this message. And the two companies have nothing to do with each other, so far anyway... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 15:19:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.de Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:16:30 +0100 Subject: Improvement * From: Martin Zuther Hello everybody! I've got another two ideas for the next system update (not a must, though, so please don't flame me, ACCESS ): The virus-presets are located in the ROM anyway - so why not let them be accessible right there so we'd get 256 Presets and 256 User-Singles? Would be great!!! And what do you think of a "manual mode" like in the NordLead? Just get the position of every knob and have a look at what it sounds like... And what about a random function (like selecting preset 0 on the Waldorf Pulse)? Just ideas. The Virus is great anyway! Martin mzuther@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 01:14:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 01:17:16 +0100 Organization: MA'o Subject: Re: Timing problems (w/ sequencer) * From: Bertrand Blais >**Does anyone on the list use Logic to sequence their Virus? If so, does anyone know what could cause a controller/ midi data jam up?? i'm using the virus with 2.6 logic on pc and no prob. maybe you can try to disable the sysex thru in the midi options. and may the sound be with you ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 02:38:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:24:38 +0100 Subject: Re: Access mailinglist history. * From: Joerg Meissner Hi Dimitri! Instead of doing so much *.zip and putting on pages and so on..., >>>you should better do more in Mutli-Mode !!! ;) <<< Jörg - access (...and don't forget: access is not teklab ! :)) ) >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >I always keep the messages of this mailinglist in a special mailbox. It's 2 Mbyte uncompressed now.... Does anybody want this document of knowledge? Like some kind of FAQ, but then a AAQ (All Asked Questions)? Of course I will ZIP it... :-) >I coud also put it on my page. > > >I tried multimode this weekend for the frist time, and that was the reason I decided not to use it anymore! Guess I am gonna find out the advantages of multi mode in os 1.58 > >Dimitri. > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 02:38:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:34:46 +0100 Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: Joerg Meissner Hi to all nerved V1.57 Multi-Mode Edit and Ctrl users! It's all the same bug. Not only the LED migrates to CTRL but the Mode does also! Such impudence! Smart Virus does remember this, and when you push the Ctrl-Key next time, you will be in the *Edit* - Mode again, and because of this...bla bla bla... Will be fixed in V 1.58 ! Thank you all for your support ! Jörg Meißner access >>>Ups ! Another little tickling insect: New EDIT-Pages "Part-Enable" and "MidiChannel" in MULTI-EDIT-Mode let the lighten LED migrate to the CTRL-KEY...oh..oh...I'm sorry for that ! >>> >>>Bug will be fixed very very quickly, i swear !!! >> >> >>I have another (similar) one for you. If you press the 'control' button when in Multi mode you can only access the Control pages up to 'MIDI Channel'. Attempting to move to the next page which is 'Low Key' makes the virus flip out of Multi Control into Multi Edit. You have now no access to key ranges, prog enable, MIDI Vol enable and Hold enable. >> >>So it goes on my machine anyway. Does anybody else get this? >> >>Steve (n-tropic) >> > >Yep, same thing on my Virus with ver. 1.57. > >Neni > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 02:38:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:35:15 +0100 Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: Joerg Meissner >>* From: Joerg Meissner >> >>Ups ! I've forgotten to change this fuckin' Edit-Pages (well, I take the "WaveSel" knobs usualy !). >> > >Beavis: "Hey, Butthead, he said 'fuckin' ! ! Huh, he he." Butthead: "Yeah, 'fuckin'. That's cool !" Beavis: "But . . er . . you know . . there might be ladies present" Butthead: "Ladies rule. Huh, huh" >Beavis:"Yeah, but Butthead, he said that word." Butthead:"Who cares? That's Joerg, and he helped program the Virus" Beavis"Oh, did he? Well I suppose that's OK then" Butthead:"Yeah, Virus rules" Ups ! Ladies ...I've forgotten the Ladies (well, I take the "WaveSel" knobs usualy !). Jörg Meißner access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 08:19:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:27:01 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: [Fwd: NOWHERE] answer: NOWHERE Message-ID: <364EA94F.6865@pan.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:13:35 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Reply-To: saliter@pan.com Organization: SoundHome X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John-adrian Holt Subject: NOWHEREX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 10:27:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:27:56 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: maandag 16 november 1998 17:00 Onderwerp: Re: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 |* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net | |in my humble opinion |these are mostly bullocks! | |the virus is my fave poly synth of all time! |i believe the roland JP's were very dissapointing. |weld Could be...but my JP-8 is still one of the best synths ever made !! (my opinion) I own that machine since 1982 and did ad some great midi in it (groove electronics). And in 1997 there was that new synth from Access that made me very happy... Rob | |access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: |> |> * From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de |> |> Some quite interesting opinions: |> |> http://bunji.realitycom.com/kilo4-3/chat/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2038 |> |> J.A.H. |> |> ********** ********** |> The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |> is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |> available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 10:42:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:33:58 +0100 Subject: Access Mailinglist History from june. * From: Dimitri S Hello! It's been some months now that I collected the mailinglist of access. I put this on my homepage at http://145.99.128.7/dimi . It's available in MBX format and in TXT format. The last one is the best to download if you don't know what to do. They ar both ZIPped and about 500Kbyte in size. Does somebody know a tool to make some kind of searchable database of messages of this? For example: I'd like to chop the list into pieces of messages. When you search by some keywords, a CGI script gives you a survey of all messages containing those words. Using bolleans would be nice too. I have an Apache/Linux webserver (RedHat 5.0 package) with CGI istalled. Dimitri. ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 13:17:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 07:25:51 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net whoops sorry rob, meant the jp-8000/8080 you know i loved the 8, 6 and 4, but still had sold my 8 to get the virus : ( cheers weld > >* From: "Rob Papen" > >Could be...but my JP-8 is still one of the best synths ever made !! (my opinion) >I own that machine since 1982 and did ad some great midi in it (groove electronics). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 10:38:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 03:45:44 -0800 Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 * From: Pytel Thomas Bah... There is no comparison. At least between the Virus and the JP8000. And it doesn't sound like they added much in the 8080. I have the JP8000 sitting right here next to the Virus, and if the sound quality was not enough, here are some practical annoyances I've run into with my JP: Having 12 individual timbres in real time really lets you lay it on in a sequencer with the Virus vs 2 with the JP. The LFOs on the JP don't have nearly the usable range of the Virus. You can only dedicate a max of 6 of the JPs voices to a timbre, limiting chords to the basics if you want the release played through. Not enough flexibility routing the LFOs on the JP. And the single most annoying thing when sequencing, the ribbon controller is broken up onto two controllers instead of one... Why? access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de > >Some quite interesting opinions: > >http://bunji.realitycom.com/kilo4-3/chat/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2038 > >J.A.H. > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 19:17:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:15:18 +0100 Subject: RE: Improvement * From: Boehm Thomas-Lars Hi list! I agree with Martin's idea : >I've got another two ideas for the next system update (not a must, though, so please don't flame me, ACCESS ): The virus-presets are located in the >ROM anyway - so why not let them be accessible right there so we'd get 256 Presets and 256 User-Singles? Would be great!!! > Is it possible to implement this feature ? I love the original presets, but I want to create my own / load different ones to the Virus without erasing them. This feature would be IMHO a great improvement. Regards, TL-Bee ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 19:18:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:13:49 +0000 Subject: INPUTS WORKING!! * From: bROthERs tEsTaS I Installed 1.57 and guess what, my (audio)inputs are working reliable. Before (since 1.52) they worked only from time to time. One day on one day off... Also the outputs used to change from left to right and vise versa, sometimes all the edited singlesounds would turn to their original factory ones(when using this superb multimode). So start syssexing again.... (I love Arrangement Dump) This is all solved now.... Thanks alot Wolfram thanx for support about warranty(did send my registration) Bye David P.S: I did 2 tracks with the Virus combined with a Nord 2 and an Emu 6400 and I'm using Powermac 8100 @110 mhz (to slow) with Cubase 4.0/24 VST /OPCODE studio 64 X and this has caused no trouble whatsoever.(don't switch on any effects !!!, get a G3 first) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 20:58:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:49:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Improvement * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >I've got another two ideas for the next system update (not a must, though, so please don't flame me, ACCESS ): The virus-presets are located in the ROM anyway - so why not let them be accessible right there so we'd get 256 Presets and 256 User-Singles? Would be great!!! I like this idea, though I doubt the Virus DSP has a sufficiently sophisticated MMU (memory management unit) to be able to switch from addressing the RAM to the ROM terribly easily. They'd have to do a serial access function to load each ROM program dynamically into a small RAM buffer for use, I'd guess. So we'd lose a couple of RAM patches, but it would be cool to be able to do this... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 17 23:07:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:01:15 -0600 Subject: Re: Access Mailinglist History from june. * From: egwinn@tribune.com >>Does somebody know a tool to make some kind of searchable database of messages of this? For example: I'd like to chop the list into pieces of messages. Dimitri.<< the mc-505 list has such an archive, created by baron quintanta (baronq@coolcoolcool.com). visit www.coolcoolcool.com/mc505/ for a look at the archive, and if you like what you see, email baron with questions. he's a very helpful guy. i'm new here. recently bought a jp8000 (gotta love that ribbon controller and motion capture), but from what i've been reading and hearing all over the place, the sounds on the virus kick the jp8000's butt. so i'm lurking on this list, trying to find out all i can about the virus before i buy one. e ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 00:42:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:36:52 -0600 Subject: Re[2]: Access Mailinglist History from june. * From: egwinn@tribune.com >>the mc-505 list has such an archive, created by baron quintanta (baronq@coolcoolcool.com).<< sorry. it's baron@coolcoolcool.com e ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 03:32:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:08:58 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 * From: "Anig Browl" >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >in my humble opinion >these are mostly bullocks! That's 'bOllocks' :) Bullocks are young bulls ):=0) - moo >the virus is my fave poly synth of all time! i believe the roland JP's were very dissapointing. I agree, I thought the JP8000 was weak even when I was starting out and not as knowledgeable as I am now 1.5 years later. Now that I have had a whole day (only!0 to play with the Virus, I am so super-impressed. Best in its class, better than Nord Lead, JP80x0, Yamaha...and I tried them all. Plus I am a technician for my job so I am not scared of reading the manual in the store to understand th programming, and the virus wins here again, it has a great design. and the world's best cutomer service! Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 03:32:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:09:00 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Nasty Bug * From: "Anig Browl" >By the way, what sequencer do you use? I want to use some software seq on my PC. I work with FT2 now, which goes better than you'd expect. >I still use this, because I don't trust crashing, slow, windows applications. Wow, I've never used a tracker at all :-) Windows 98 is not so bad - I have a 133 with 64 mb memory and I can do excellent MIDI and so-so digital audio (not enough tracks - need new CPU). It doesn't Crash a lot. I use Cakewalk for a sequencer but I do not like the interface too much even though it is very powerful. Everyone I know says Cubase is the bomb for MIDI, and not bad for Audio too if you like. You will crash more if you do audio in windows, for this I would kind of like a Mac in the future. But for MIDI, Windows and windows software is pretty good. Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 03:32:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:09:01 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: multi edit/control * From: "Anig Browl" >No really, a preview function would be kinda nice (I have no midi controller) But it's really a bell more than anything, I usually just make my sequencer loop a short phrase over and over. Get a better feel for the keyfollowing that way too... Get a keyboard, it is so great for music ideas (and I can't reall play myself). You can buy just a MIDI keyboard w/no sound very cheap (even $50), or get a synth (but why would you want something else if you have a Virus :) ). Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 03:32:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:09:02 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: TekLab Custom Software != Access Music * From: "Anig Browl" >Yeah, we need to do something about this Canine. We *gotta* stop people from mistaking TekLab for the people that make the Virus. Just put it on the message tag | V The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 03:45:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:23:50 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Improvement * From: "Anig Browl" >I've got another two ideas for the next system update (not a must, though, so please don't flame me, ACCESS ): The virus-presets are located in the ROM anyway - so why not let them be accessible right there so we'd get 256 >Presets and 256 User-Singles? Would be great!!! I think allowing direct access (haha) to the ROM presets would be difficult - you would need to rewrite the BIOS somewhat. >And what do you think of a "manual mode" like in the NordLead? Just get the position of every knob and have a look at what it sounds like... And what >about a random function (like selecting preset 0 on the Waldorf Pulse)? Good ideas, especially the 'random' one - great if you have no inspiration. I am getting good at synth programming now, but somedays I come up to a synth to make sound and I don't like any of the presets so I don't know which one I want to start with. A random patch would always give you a surprise to make you think a little different! Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 03:35:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:31:53 -0800 Subject: RE: Discussion: Virus vs. JP8080 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >and the world's best cutomer service! > Ummm ... heh heh... it could be argued that TekLab is providing a small portion of this service, you know. Just wanted to point that out. But yeah, I regularly pile honor and praise on Access' engineers for their active participation and use of the Internet to get to their customers. Awesome. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Partner, TekLab | http://www.teklab.com Chief Technologist | la, calif. ICQ: 454804 IRC: #a3k/DALNet (Torpor) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 03:56:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:34:40 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Access Mailinglist History from june. * From: "Anig Browl" e wrote... >i'm new here. recently bought a jp8000 (gotta love that ribbon controller and >motion capture), but from what i've been reading and hearing all over the place, >the sounds on the virus kick the jp8000's butt. so i'm lurking on this list, >trying to find out all i can about the virus before i buy one. e, are you a 505 owner since you are on the 505 list? I am also on that list, it is really good (but not for product support, I wish Roland would take a lesson from our wonderful friends at Access). I like the controller options on the JP - on the 8080 using your voice to modulate a sound is very cool. But I bought the virus finally. I took a year to decide on a lead synth because I wanted an instrument I could really love to work on. I definitely think the Virus has better sound and more control than the JP (or nord Lead or AN1x too). Just look at the design of the front panels. The AN1x has a simple interface but very flimsy knobs like a CS1x, so you must narrow your sonic ideas a little to use it. The JP has many controls but they seem so untidy on the machine, like Roland have a fixed idea of what you will do. Both synths are very good sound machines, but the design is very Japanese |-) I find the design of the Virus and the Nord Lead too to be very clear and thoughtful. (I have to praise the Nord here for the pitch bend lever, it is the best on any synth I know.) Easy to look at but with plenty of power available right at your fingertips, no waste in the layout. Also these two synths do not try to include 50 effects or 'extra' features that take away processing power. For me, these european synths feel much better for working on sounds, and I feel like the same philosophy is in the sound engine inside the box. This is not very scientific, but it's important to feel comfortable with the machine you use or you will not get the most out of it I think. Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 09:27:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:26:22 +0200 Cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 152e" Subject: RE: Improvement * From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com I have received and read Your message regarding: RE: Improvement This receipt was automatically generated upon Your request If you need more information about the Atlas Copco Group, take a look at our Web Site: http://www.atlascopco.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 09:41:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:41:41 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Access Mailinglist History from june. * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: dinsdag 17 november 1998 23:37 Onderwerp: Re: Access Mailinglist History from june. |* From: egwinn@tribune.com | |>>Does somebody know a tool to make some kind of searchable database of |messages of this? For example: I'd like to chop the list into pieces of |messages. | |Dimitri.<< | |the mc-505 list has such an archive, created by baron quintanta |(baronq@coolcoolcool.com). visit www.coolcoolcool.com/mc505/ for a look at the |archive, and if you like what you see, email baron with questions. he's a very |helpful guy. | |i'm new here. recently bought a jp8000 (gotta love that ribbon controller and |motion capture), but from what i've been reading and hearing all over the place, |the sounds on the virus kick the jp8000's butt. so i'm lurking on this list, |trying to find out all i can about the virus before i buy one. | The Virus is there in a piece of music. Also next to a JP-8, MiniMoog, Microwave ect. This means this is a good sounding powerfull synth that inspires you to make music. Because that is it what it is all about..making music with synthesizers our samplers which inspire you.. But still this is personal...a good sound made on a JP-80x0 is a good sound as well !! Rob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl Address: ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 Account number: Rabobank Pey-Posterholt 14.20.11.649 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is out our comming out: -Signature Sound-Set for Access Virus (out !!) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for EMU EOS samplers (release in November 1998) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for AKAI samplers (release beginning 1999) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |e |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 09:56:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:51:11 +0100 Subject: about Virus&Win98&MIDI (was: RE: Nasty Bug) * From: Dimitri S Hello! >* From: "Anig Browl" Wow, I've never used a tracker at all :-) Try it! It is great for samples and drums. Even if you're a win98 user :) For the first use it is a little complicated though. >Windows 98 is not so bad - I have a 133 with 64 mb memory and I can do excellent MIDI and so-so digital audio (not enough tracks - need new CPU). Well, it should work on my AMD K6-2-300 too then. >It doesn't Crash a lot. Hihi. That's what I mean. That means that it crashes sometimes. Brr! >crash more if you do audio in windows, for this I would kind of like a Mac in the future. I used Cubase VST for remixing. That's handy. Nut not for live performance. >But for MIDI, Windows and windows software is pretty good. Okay I'll take your advice, and I'll retry MIDI on a PC. I am very curious about what you see as a reliable MIDI programm. Dimitri. (sorry for this being a little off topic) ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 10:31:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:31:13 +0100 Subject: envelope follower * From: molter hi. can i use the virus as a kind of envelope follower filter? greetings christian ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 12:05:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:04:15 +0100 Subject: Drums in MultiMode (Was: Nasty Bug) * From: Philipp Mott access-list@tl36.teklab.com / Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:40:52 +0000 : >>>Ahaaaaa! That is quite interesting. I usually take a new channel for >>a new >>>drum, so I run out of channels very quickly. So I can, for instance, >>Put a >>>basedrum on c-4, a closed hihat on e-4 and an open hihat on f-4, >>when I use >>>ranges of one note. Ahaaaa! Veery interesting. I just never tried it, never took the time. > >Well, to be honest I havn't tried it yet either. It occurred to me that it would be a cool way to work the other night just after I had loaded os 1.570. I use a default Multi with six drumsounds (part 11-16) connected to midi channel 16 using note range separation. The first ten parts of the multi are connected to the corresponding ten midi channels for standard sequencer use. Works fine with OS 1.54 (...still looking at this list and waiting for a finally stable OS...) and Cubase VST using a custom drum map. I developed a VIRUS driver for Steinbergs' studio module so you can select patches by their name and perform dumps from inside cubase. Once I get back home I'll upload the driver to canine. flp ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 15:10:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:13:55 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Access mailinglist history. * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >For instance, just the other day Bilbo Baginz was saying something very interesting about FM and the pitch of osc1 but I can't find it now. Are you out there Mr. Baginz because I'm trying to get some cool DX type sounds out of my Virus (and yes I know that's dead unfashionable but those FM synths could make some cool sounds that I've not heard anything else manage - weird synthetic 'vocal' textures for instance) and mess with them using the Virus' filters. > > Can you (or anyone else) help? > >Steve (n-tropic) The reason I couldn't find this is cos i saw it on the wishlist of Canine's Virus Page - not here! Woops! But I've tried having Osc 1, as suggested, at low frequencies and using FM, but I just get outrageous vibrato effects (Osc1 modulates the frequency of Osc2 at (nearly) sub audio rates right?) When I get home tonight I'll try Osc1 at very high frequencies. Any comments or guidance welcome. Steve ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 16:55:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:57:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Access Mailinglist History from june. * From: Rick Reyes Indeed, the JP is a lovely synth capable of making great sounds. All it needs is good programming. A definate complement to my Virus. Rick >Because that is it what it is all about..making music with synthesizers our >samplers which inspire you.. >But still this is personal...a good sound made on a JP-80x0 is a good sound >as well !! > >Rob > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 17:13:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:06:45 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Return-Path: skullytat@asapnet.net Subject: THANX BUT GOTTA GO * From: "skully" I really appreciate your list but at this point in time I would like to stop receiving the list. I'm not ready for all of this info yet! :} ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 03:45:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:49:29 +0000 Subject: Nord vs.Virus Oscillator * From: monokrom@sirius.com I was playing my friends Nord Lead and notice the LFO oscillates with much more detail than the Virus. Has anyone notice this too? How can I make my Virus oscillator sound more fuller/clearer/or similar to the NordLead? M ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 21:13:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:07:32 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Drums in MultiMode (Was: Nasty Bug) * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:04:15 +0100, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I developed a VIRUS driver for Steinbergs' studio module so you can select patches by their name and perform dumps from inside cubase. Once I get back home I'll upload the driver to canine. Whoopee! That saves me a job, that I never seemed to get around to anyway.... thanks! Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 10:32:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:40:52 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Nasty Bug * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>* From: Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Ahaaaaa! That is quite interesting. I usually take a new channel for >a new >>drum, so I run out of channels very quickly. So I can, for instance, >Put a >>basedrum on c-4, a closed hihat on e-4 and an open hihat on f-4, >when I use >>ranges of one note. Ahaaaa! Veery interesting. I just never tried it, never took the time. Well, to be honest I havn't tried it yet either. It occurred to me that it would be a cool way to work the other night just after I had loaded os 1.57. Then I discovered the missing relevant control pages. I think some of the factory mutis work like this (I've overwritten mine!) >> >>By the way, what sequencer do you use? I want to use some software >seq on my >>PC. I work with FT2 now, which goes better than you'd expect. I still use this, because I don't trust crashing, slow, windows >applications. >> >>Dimitri. I use Logic on a Mac. For me the notation side is very useful and the arrange page is intuitive, quick to use and....logical. The environment page can be a complete nightmare if you don't know what you're doing but a wonder if you do. You hardly need to touch it if you just want to get on and sequence. Everyone seems to rave about Logic's solid timing. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 10:42:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:50:56 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: multi edit/control * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >from what i hear genuine ring mod is coming one day, but i have never confirmed this with the access folks. >now that im programming on this thing now, i really need a compare feature, and i think id like to have some other different types of saw, square, tri waves if it is possible technically. weld > Yes, Yes, Yes! How about different modelled waves to accurately emulate different vintage analogues. How cool to be able to start with, say an ARP AXXE sawtooth or, dare I say it again, a Mini Moog. People always say how important the filter is to a synth's sound but I recon the raw oscillator sound is just as crucial. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 22:48:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:52:52 -0800 Subject: Keeping track of Virus topics * From: David Battenfield Hello everyone, This users list is *extremely* helpful, and I save all useful posts. If possible, I have a small request for the list, and that is to reflect the messege content in the Subject heading- I know its easy to reply to a post and end up off topic from the Subject title, but it would be cool for reference purposes!! Thanks, David ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 11:00:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:07:20 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Improvement * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>I've got another two ideas for the next system update (not a must, though, so please don't flame me, ACCESS ): The virus-presets are located in the ROM anyway - so why not let them be accessible right there so we'd get 256 Presets and 256 User-Singles? Would be great!!! > >I like this idea, though I doubt the Virus DSP has a sufficiently sophisticated MMU (memory management unit) to be able to switch from addressing the RAM to the ROM terribly easily. They'd have to do a serial access function to load each ROM program dynamically into a small RAM buffer for use, I'd guess. > >So we'd lose a couple of RAM patches, but it would be cool to be able to do this... Yup, I don't know about the technical stuff but I could go for this too. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 00:11:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:20:30 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Hints about the Virus * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net is there someone who might interpret these to english and put them on the list??? cheers weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >For everyone who has access to German language magazines: the most recent issue of German Keyboards magazine has 33 tips and tricks about the Virus as an opener in a new "Synthesizer workshop" series. > >some of these are rather basic, but a lot of them are useful and inspiring. > >think different! > >Canine ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 23:34:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:27:18 +0100 Subject: 1.58 posted * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I have just posted version 1.58 which fixes the nasty bugs mentioned on this list my server. See the address in the signature...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 23:43:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:39:15 +0100 Subject: Re: envelope follower * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:31 AM +0100 on 18.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: molter > >hi. > > >can i use the virus as a kind of envelope follower filter? No, the Virus does not have an envelope follower unfortunately. Maybe we'll see something like this in the future? The wish has been mentioned (and posted to the wishlist) before, so I am sure Access are aware of this request. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 23:42:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:40:04 +0100 Subject: Re: Drums in MultiMode (Was: Nasty Bug) * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:04 PM +0100 on 18.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I developed a VIRUS driver for Steinbergs' studio module so you can select patches by their name and perform dumps from inside cubase. Once I get back home I'll upload the driver to canine. good idea. I'm waiting...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 00:01:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:54:39 +0100 Subject: Hints about the Virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" For everyone who has access to German language magazines: the most recent issue of German Keyboards magazine has 33 tips and tricks about the Virus as an opener in a new "Synthesizer workshop" series. some of these are rather basic, but a lot of them are useful and inspiring. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 00:24:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:16:28 +0100 Subject: Re: Hints about the Virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:20 PM +0100 on 18.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >is there someone who might interpret these to english and put them on the list??? >cheers >weld I have asked the author if he would volunteer think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 00:29:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:26:41 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Elhardt@aol.com I just bought my 3rd virtual analog synth last week, a JP-8080, and realized it didn't allow me to modulate the pulse width or wave shape using an envelope generator. I thought that was no good. So I went to my Virus, and it appears I can't do it on the Virus either. What the hell is going on here. Almost every real analog synth can do this rather basic routing. It seems like this should be on the list of possible additions to the Virus if any changes in the voice architecture are planned. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 01:46:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:40:17 -0800 Subject: Virus OS mirrored on TekLab * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan In case you guys need it, I'm now mirroring the Access Virus OS upgrades here on TekLab. They will always be available here: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/AccessVirus/OS_Upgrades/ Thank you Canine! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 18 18:50:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:45:15 -0800 Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions Subject: Autonomy for oscillator 3 Hi, I saw a message on the list looking for a post that I sent about using FM on the Virus. I had a poke around the dark and dusty corners of my hard drive and managed to dig it out, so here it is again: Hi, after having worked programming the Virus "in the field" some more, a couple of things have ocurred to me as useful additions. 1. The ability to tune the sub oscillator up or down in semi-tone increments, rather than tracking an octave below oscillator 1. Mainly I find myself wishing that it could be tuned up in octave steps, so that for example when I am using FM and an extremely low setting of osc. 1 which tends to give very interesting and unique textures, I would have another oscillator to run in unison or whatever interval so as to give more body to the sound. At present if osc. 1 is tied up performing the low FM duties, then the sub oscillator is an octave below that, and unfortunately not a lot of use, if not inaudible. As well as this, a very important addition would be to add a saw wave to it's waveforms, thereby effectively giving the Virus another oscillator, albeit a basic "meat and potatoes" one, but one which would increase the power and flexibilty of the machine by quite a large amount. 2. Having the chorus units be assignable, rather than hardwired to the first 4 parts. I find myself in an existential crisis whenever I start a new track. I can't decide (or know) in advance which parts will need the chorus facilities. What has happened so far (other wasting large parts of my life trying to predict the unpredictable) is that near the mixdown, I find myself shuffling parts around inside the multi and midi channels around on the sequencer to enable one part to use a chorus, or to audition a part with chorus. While this isn't the end of the world and isn't impossible to do, I could do without the extra work involved. If I was able to assign one of the 4 chorus resources to any part in the multi, with perhaps a message telling me that I would have to free up a resource (and the channels numbers that they are currently assigned to) if they were all assigned, this would make it much friendlier to use. I still would really like to see the option to tune the Sub oscillator up in octave steps become a reality as it does give a lot more extra power especially when programming FM sounds. And I am sure this would not be too difficult to implement. While I'm on the subject of improvements, a pan delay would be a really great option over the slightly naff sounding mono delay in the Virus(o.k., it's stereo but it sounds mono) Which I think is one of the reasons why the patches/performances on the Roland JP8000 sound so 'finished' right out of the box is the fact that the (very limited) effects are of good quality. i.e they have a pan delay and theres nothing like a big stereo delay to make anything sound HUGE. Also the chorus/flange in the JP 8000 is limited to presets, but does sound very nice. Something else I would like to see on the Virus is a basic shelving treble and bass e.q. (also on the JP 8000 ) which can be saved as part of the patch. This is very useful and all that is really needed for 99% of eq tasks in this context, especially when in multi mode and using several different sounds through the same outputs. As far as the JP8000/80 vs. Virus conversation goes, you may be forgiven for thinking that I prefer the JP. Not so, I own both machines and like them each for their difference in sound, each has it's strengths and weaknesses especially the JP (what, 1 lfo! o.k. 2 then, the second one when you push the mod lever.Great. But does anyone still use a mod lever to add cheezy vibrato to synth brass sounds? Kool and the Gang maybe? Sometimes I get the impression that Roland are stuck in the seventies.) What I am trying to do is to get Access to implement on the Virus some of the strengths about the JP8000. As for as the Virus goes, in it's present form it's big on stengths and small on weaknesses. Bilbo Bagginz Producer "Cosmosis" and "Laughing Buddha" X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 03:02:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:58:31 -0600 Subject: Re[2]: Access Mailinglist History from june. * From: egwinn@tribune.com * From: "Rob Papen" >>that is it what it is all about..making music with synthesizers our samplers which inspire you.. But still this is personal...a good sound made on a JP-80x0 is a good sound as well !!<< quite right, but just as different-colored oils inspire different kinds of paintings, different-sounding synths lead one toward different creative paths. if the virus sounds more greasy and meaty than the jp, then i might be inspired to write greasier, meatier jams. at least, that's my theory... e <--- still happily learning to talk to his jp8000... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 04:56:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:43:25 EST Subject: Re: Drums in MultiMode (Was: Nasty Bug) * From: WYDMusic@aol.com Upload it! Upload it! And thanx! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 08:36:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:34:37 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Ronald Pieket >I just bought my 3rd virtual analog synth last week, a JP-8080, and realized it didn't allow me to modulate the pulse width or wave shape using an envelope generator. I thought that was no good. So I went to my Virus, and it appears I can't do it on the Virus either. You can use LFO1 in envelope mode to modulate pulse width. It's not exactly the same as full ADSR control, but it's something... (Note that the up and down slope of the LFO triangle waveform can be individually adjusted. This effectively makes it an AR envelope.) - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 09:38:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:25:09 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: SoundDiver Virus adaptations >heya< >Hi Sascha, you can email it to me and I will put it on the "http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus" website, if you like. Just make sure to let me know whenever there is a new version. This .sit package contains the latest version of 3 SoundDiver VIRUS adaptations. Please un-sit the file to get a VirusMac.sit and a VirusWin.zip and a readme to place it at your web page. PS: This .sit package has no ressource fork, but the .sit inside has of course. With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=VirusAll.sit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=VirusAll.sit Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:VirusAll.sit (????/----) (00009F59)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 12:06:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:58:34 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: sorry for the 220KB * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) BIG sorry to all list members... It was intended to send the SoundDiver Adaptations to canine's email, but unfortunately my mailer replied to the list... Hope it never happens again... PS: I am a little bit stressed and in a hurry because Logic Audio 3.6 is about to be released... With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 21:30:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:08:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: donderdag 19 november 1998 0:50 Onderwerp: Re: PWM via envelop generator |* From: Elhardt@aol.com | | |I just bought my 3rd virtual analog synth last week, a JP-8080, and realized |it didn't allow me to modulate the pulse width or wave shape using an envelope |generator. I thought that was no good. So I went to my Virus, and it appears |I can't do it on the Virus either. What the hell is going on here. Almost |every real analog synth can do this rather basic routing. It seems like this |should be on the list of possible additions to the Virus if any changes in the |voice architecture are planned. Virus: You can route the LFO1 to PW1+2 and set the LFO to ENV MODE. Then you have a kind of ENV routed to the PW. I used this in factory-sound B83 FUZZY So just try it out. Of course is not so complete as a real ENV. Rob | |-Elhardt |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 01:34:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:29:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: sorry for the 220KB * From: "Martin Aune" Danke Sch–n anyway! :) >* From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >BIG sorry to all list members... > >It was intended to send the SoundDiver Adaptations to canine's email, but unfortunately my mailer replied to the list... Hope it never happens again... > > >PS: I am a little bit stressed and in a hurry because Logic Audio 3.6 is about to be released... >With greetings from Germany > >Sascha Kujawa >Quality Assurance Manager >Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ------------------------------- makrokosmos@oslo.online.no http://home.sol.no/~klikk ------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 21:50:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:00:31 PST Subject: Fwd: Re: Access mailinglist history. * From: "B. Hamiltoin" >>For instance, just the other day Bilbo Baginz was saying something very >>interesting about FM and the pitch of osc1 but I can't find it now. Are you >>out there Mr. Baginz because I'm trying to get some cool DX type sounds out >>of my Virus (and yes I know that's dead unfashionable but those FM synths >>could make some cool sounds that I've not heard anything else manage - weird >>synthetic 'vocal' textures for instance) and mess with them using the Virus' >>filters. >> >> Can you (or anyone else) help? >> >>Steve (n-tropic) > >The reason I couldn't find this is cos i saw it on the wishlist of Canine's >Virus Page - not here! Woops! >But I've tried having Osc 1, as suggested, at low frequencies and using FM, >but I just get outrageous vibrato effects (Osc1 modulates the frequency of >Osc2 at (nearly) sub audio rates right?) When I get home tonight I'll try >Osc1 at very high frequencies. Any comments or guidance welcome. > >Steve I haven't looked into programming FM sounds on the VIRUS as yet, but if it has any similarity to old analog FM synthesis (and therefore working like the Matrix 6), you would have to set the resonance of a filter to oscillate. (This would make that filter unusable for filtering.) It hence becomes the fundamental of the patch, so you set the frequency of the oscillating filter by adjusting the Filter Frequency. Then one of the oscillators can modulate the waveform of the now oscillating filter (which is a sine wave with no partials). The Frequency Modulation amount AND the pitch of the modulator of the filter pitch by the oscillator is what creates harmonic overtones. Oddly enough, most people who use the FM parameter on the Matrix 6 don't understand its purpose, and they use it to blur the filter's sound. At any rate, this would be referred to a as a two-operator FM sound. 1 carrier, 1 modulator. Another approach to take with the VIRUS, would be to buy a cheap FB01 or TX-81Z module and send it's FM sound through the VIRUS filter. Yamaha produced two synth engines in the DX days, one that has 4-operators and one that has 7 operators. In addtion, each engine has different arrangements of the relationship of carrier to modulator(s). These are called algorithms. I can't say for the VIRUS, but with the Matrix 6, you only have 1 algorithm. OSC1->filter. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 21:49:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:45:45 PST Subject: Fwd: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: "B. Hamiltoin" You make a good point. While the Matrix 6 has it's own limitations, it has a huge number of possiblities when it comes to routing modulators to destinations, including the one you mention. I believe the Korg z1 has this ability. Though it is not modular like the Matrix 6, it too has a huge array of modulations and destinations. The Waldorf Q (16 voices, but alas only 4 timbres) promises routing capabilities on par with 'ancient' and venerable Matrix 12. >* From: Elhardt@aol.com > > >I just bought my 3rd virtual analog synth last week, a JP-8080, and realized >it didn't allow me to modulate the pulse width or wave shape using an envelope >generator. I thought that was no good. So I went to my Virus, and it appears >I can't do it on the Virus either. What the hell is going on here. Almost >every real analog synth can do this rather basic routing. It seems like this >should be on the list of possible additions to the Virus if any changes in the >voice architecture are planned. > >-Elhardt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 19 10:17:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:26:05 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >I just bought my 3rd virtual analog synth last week, a JP-8080, and realized it didn't allow me to modulate the pulse width or wave shape using an envelope >generator. I thought that was no good. So I went to my Virus, and it appears >I can't do it on the Virus either. What the hell is going on here. Almost every real analog synth can do this rather basic routing. It seems like this >should be on the list of possible additions to the Virus if any changes in the >voice architecture are planned. > >-Elhardt I think you're probably right here. You can of course use LFO 1 in Env mode to modulate PW but it's nice to be able to turn an envelope decay knob and have it effect both filter and PW. You could make a definable knob do both these jobs but it's ultimately not as flexible and uses up a precious definable. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 01:42:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:32:11 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Elhardt@aol.com "Rob Papen" wrote: <> I thought about that also, but it just isn't very flexible. The Sawtooth wave on the LFO goes the wrong way and won't stay high, for adding grit to the beginning of a sound. And for doing semi-guitar type sounds it is sure nice to hook the envelope to the pulse width for much better shaping control. Thanks anyway. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 03:03:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:57:04 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >I thought about that also, but it just isn't very flexible. The Sawtooth wave >on the LFO goes the wrong way and won't stay high, for adding grit to the beginning of a sound. And for doing semi-guitar type sounds it is sure nice >to hook the envelope to the pulse width for much better shaping control. Thanks anyway. What is the wrong way the LFO goes? You can assign a positive or negative amplitude by the polarity of the individual LFO Amount. You can choose the start phase by LFO TrigPhase. The LFO goes up and down, but I couldn't make it swing to the left yet :) What is 'staying high'? Does a common envelope have to stay high for a specific time? Does a an envelope produce grit when it stays constant for a little periode? This is not my experience. My tip for the grit: Choose the triangle shape for the LFO 1 (and Env Mode and Amount to PW 1+2); then you get the formerly mentioned AD (Attack&Decay) envelope. Turn the TriSymmetry of LFO 1 to a value between -45 and -63, so the attack phase is so short that it produces a transient. By the way, one fact that is possibly unknown: The PW controller range goes only from 50% to 100 %, but the LFO modulation range makes the full 0 to 100% Ciao Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 04:57:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:46:34 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: "Paul D'Amato" Is there a way to delay an envelopes' attack time on the Virus ? As in a DADSR ..or is there a way to modulate any of the stages of an envelope ? Also , is there a "ramp" in the Virus ....I did not get mine yet and these things are not mentioned on the Virus page . thanks ... ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 04:58:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:58:15 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Elhardt@aol.com CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: << What is the wrong way the LFO goes? You can assign a positive or negative amplitude by the polarity of the individual LFO Amount. You can choose the start phase by LFO TrigPhase. The LFO goes up and down, but I couldn't make it swing to the left yet. What is 'staying high'? Does a common envelope have to stay high for a specific time? Does a an envelope produce grit when it stays constant for a little periode?>> What I meant by staying high was like what I wanted to do with an envelope. That is, the attack portion swings the pulse width up (adding coarseness) and stays there (sustain level) until the key is released. I don't want it to fall back to a hollow sounding square wave as the LFO finishes it's cycle. It is kind of useful for bowed type sounds. I will have to look more into polarity and other options, but then I lose LFO1 for vibrato, not to mention that this all is a very awkward way to do things if it can be done at all. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 06:12:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:12:26 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: about Virus&Win98&MIDI (was: RE: Nasty Bug) * From: "Anig Browl" >* From: Dimitri S > >>Windows 98 is not so bad - I have a 133 with 64 mb memory and I can do excellent MIDI and so-so digital audio (not enough tracks - need >new CPU). >>It doesn't Crash a lot. >Hihi. That's what I mean. That means that it crashes sometimes. Brr! It will be fine for MIDI, I only have crashes with digital audio (and this is not really the fault of Windows - I am a PC technician so I am sure :-) ). >Okay I'll take your advice, and I'll retry MIDI on a PC. I am very curious about what you see as a reliable MIDI programm. Cakewalk on the PC is good. But if you do not mind complexity and you have a lot of MIDI gear (and money), then consider Logic Audio. It is hard but seems very good, I am thinking of upgrading. Maybe it's the German design :) >(sorry for this being a little off topic) Yes, I should apologize to the list for the many many posts I am making, I'm sure everyone is tired of me already! My email is eddy@anig-browl.org for private or off-topic discussions. Anig Browl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 08:06:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:03:45 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Ronald Pieket >What I meant by staying high was like what I wanted to do with an envelope. That is, the attack portion swings the pulse width up (adding coarseness) and stays there (sustain level) until the key is released. I don't want it to fall back to a hollow sounding square wave as the LFO finishes it's cycle. 1. Select the -START- (A127) patch. 2. Set OSC1 to square wave. 3. Set OSC1 PW to 120. 4. Switch on LFO1 ENV MODE 5. Select LFO1 sawtooth waveform. 6. Turn LFO1 rate to 64. 7. Set LFO1 PW1+2 to -30 - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 08:24:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:32:55 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: system 1.58 * From: Guenther Albrecht hi, i dunno which bugs in 1.57 were fixed, but in comparison 1.58 looks rather strange 1. 157 did not init the edit buffers. i said: thank god! but 1.58 does it again. maybe we need an init parameter? 2. in 157 i thought: yes, they altered the delay feedback parameters so it is not so easy to get too loud - earlier versions boosted the signal much too much. but in 158 you just get distortion if you have a feedback of 100 - 127. why? why was 1.57 so nice? regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 08:45:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:44:49 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Elhardt@aol.com * From: Ronald Pieket wrote: << 1. Select the -START- (A127) patch. 2. Set OSC1 to square wave. 3. Set OSC1 PW to 120. 4. Switch on LFO1 ENV MODE 5. Select LFO1 sawtooth waveform. 6. Turn LFO1 rate to 64. 7. Set LFO1 PW1+2 to -30 >> Yah. After the other message mentioned LFO polarity, I figured out how it should be done. Sometimes I forget some of those hidden features buried in the LCD menus. It is still not an elegant way of doing it though. It looks like maybe I can also get the effect I want by using LFO2 to modulate SHAPE instead of pulse width, and still retain LFO1 for pitch modulation. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 10:15:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:15:54 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Dimitri Sijperda Hello! There is one thing missing in this story: Sustain (with - what an invention! fall/rise time! ) and release. These two in combination are improtant for determin what happens after leleasing the key. So in the LFO story, there should be added some prameter with the level the lfo in env mode linearly glides to after releasing the keys (and for a release, I'd set this parameter to 0%) Swinging the LFO phase from the left to the right with EG. another LFO? Now that is a good idea!! :-p By the way, I suggested earlier that it would be nive to have an assignable LFO waveshape, to morph between saw-triangle-reversedsaw. (changing the place of the top of a triangle between 0% and 100% of the phase). Os this possible? Geep up the good work! Dimitri. At 20:57 19-11-98 EST, you wrote: >What is the wrong way the LFO goes? You can assign a positive or negative amplitude by the polarity of the individual LFO Amount. You can choose the start phase by LFO TrigPhase. >The LFO goes up and down, but I couldn't make it swing to the left yet :) > >What is 'staying high'? Does a common envelope have to stay high for a specific time? Does a an envelope produce grit when it stays constant for a little periode? This is not my experience. > >My tip for the grit: Choose the triangle shape for the LFO 1 (and Env Mode and Amount to PW 1+2); then you get the formerly mentioned AD (Attack&Decay) envelope. Turn the TriSymmetry of LFO 1 to a value between -45 and -63, so the attack phase is so short that it produces a transient. > >By the way, one fact that is possibly unknown: The PW controller range goes only from 50% to 100 %, but the LFO modulation range makes the full 0 to 100% ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 10:24:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:25:58 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Dimitri Sijperda >I just bought my 3rd virtual analog synth last week, a JP-8080, and realized it didn't allow me to modulate the pulse width or wave shape using an envelope generator. I thought that was no good. So I went to my Virus, and it appears I can't do it on the Virus either. What the hell is going on here. Almost every real analog synth can do this rather basic routing. It seems like this should be on the list of possible additions to the Virus if any changes in the voice architecture are planned. I suddenly realise its very simple on my analogue Korg MS-10: Just put a patching plug between the LFO and the PWM input. :-) Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 11:03:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:01:21 +0100 Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:58 AM +0100 on 20.11.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >but then I lose LFO1 for vibrato, not to mention that this all is a very awkward way to do things if it can be done at all. I find LFO 3 much more usable for Vibrato, since it also has a fade in time and can be routed to OSC 1, OSC 2, both or PulseWidth 1 or 2 or both. Does this help in any way? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 09:56:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:54:38 +0000 Subject: Re: PWM via envelope generator * From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de >Yah. After the other message mentioned LFO polarity, I figured out how it >should be done. Sometimes I forget some of those hidden features buried in >the LCD menus. Come on, make the effort! LFO polarity is not a "hidden" parameter. You have to set the amount anyway (using the value knob) and either you turn it right for positive. What's the prob? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 12:51:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:50:53 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: PWM (play wild modulated) * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 20 november 1998 10:48 Onderwerp: Re: PWM via envelop generator |* From: Dimitri Sijperda | |>I just bought my 3rd virtual analog synth last week, a JP-8080, and realized |>it didn't allow me to modulate the pulse width or wave shape using an envelope |>generator. I thought that was no good. So I went to my Virus, and it appears |>I can't do it on the Virus either. What the hell is going on here. Almost |>every real analog synth can do this rather basic routing. It seems like this |>should be on the list of possible additions to the Virus if any changes in the |>voice architecture are planned. |I suddenly realise its very simple on my analogue Korg MS-10: Just put a |patching plug between the LFO and the PWM input. :-) | Jip, and Korg did forget to make PWM on their MS-20 (but still a nice machine). Last night I made some weird sequence with the MS-20 and the SQ-10 (Korg analogue sequencer). Maybe someday a 19" Virus with cool analogue sequencer? Like the idea of the Polymorph of Qasimidi? Rob Of topic: p.s. Who has a MKS-80+programmer and a Jupiter-8. I want to know the difference. |Dimitri. |---------------------------------------------------------------- |Dimitri Sijperda |ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) |mailto:di-mi@dds.nl | | |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 13:44:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:39:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: symmetric? * From: "seb:h" Hello everyone, This list ist very informative and helps making (buying) decisions... Question: Does the Virus have symmetric Inputs? Thanks, Sebastian ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 13:48:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:40:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: symmetric? * From: "seb:h" Sorry, it's Outputs of course. > >Hello everyone, > >This list ist very informative and helps making (buying) decisions... > >Question: Does the Virus have symmetric Inputs? > >Thanks, >Sebastian > > > > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 15:00:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:58:02 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: CKe9644719@aol.com > >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >>I can't do it on the Virus either. What the hell is going on here. Almost >>every real analog synth can do this rather basic routing. It seems like >this >>should be on the list of possible additions to the Virus if any changes in >the >>voice architecture are planned. >I suddenly realise its very simple on my analogue Korg MS-10: Just put a patching plug between the LFO and the PWM input. :-) Are we talking about LFO's, envelopes ore bananas here? :) Christoph Kemper ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 15:00:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:58:03 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >By the way, I suggested earlier that it would be nive to have an assignable LFO waveshape, to morph between saw-triangle-reversedsaw. (changing the place of the top of a triangle between 0% and 100% of the phase). Os this possible? Yes, yes, yes The parameter ist called TriSymmetry (for Triangle Symmetry) and is available for both LFO 1 & 2. It is the same formaly mentioned and now famous parameter that makes both LFO's becoming a AD-envelope when they are switched to Env Mode and triangle. Ciao Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 15:00:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:58:04 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >* From: "Paul D'Amato" > >Also , is there a "ramp" in the Virus ....I did not get mine yet and these things are not mentioned on the Virus page . Yes. The repeatedly mentioned LFO's that are switched to Env Mode are your *ramps*. The decay is controllable by the LFO Rate controller. By choosing the triangle wave and adjusting the TriSymmetry, you have even a AD-envelope. So, the Virus has two ramps or AD-envelopes that are assignable to 10 destinations right on the panel Ciao Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 15:55:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:50:22 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: "Paul D'Amato" So, the Virus has two ramps or AD-envelopes that are assignable to 10 destinations right on the panel Ok , but what about using the LFO's as ramps to ramp an attack segment of an envelope ....or the decay , sustain, and release for that matter . I am thinking in terms of the Xpander ...if there is another option on the Virus that is just not clear to me yet , please point it out ;-)) ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 16:26:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:19:11 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: about Virus&Win98&MIDI (was: RE: Nasty Bug) * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >It will be fine for MIDI, I only have crashes with digital audio (and this is not really the fault of Windows - I am a PC technician so I am sure When does it happen? Which Soundcard? With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 17:00:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:56:44 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: Ronald Pieket >>1. Select the -START- (A127) patch. 2. Set OSC1 to square wave. 3. Set OSC1 PW to 120. 4. Switch on LFO1 ENV MODE 5. Select LFO1 sawtooth waveform. 6. Turn LFO1 rate to 64. 7. Set LFO1 PW1+2 to -30 > >Yah. After the other message mentioned LFO polarity, I figured out how it should be done. Sometimes I forget some of those hidden features buried in the LCD menus. It is still not an elegant way of doing it though. What do you mean? All seven steps I described are done with the knobs and switches on the front panel. If any of the used features are "hidden" from you (but not from me), that is probably because you haven't been paying attention. Some people are impossible to please. - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 17:46:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:24:38 EST Subject: Re: system 1.58 * From: CKe9644719@aol.com In einer eMail vom 20.11.98 08:45:03 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >From: Guenther Albrecht > >hi, > >i dunno which bugs in 1.57 were fixed, but in comparison 1.58 looks rather strange > >1. 157 did not init the edit buffers. i said: thank god! but 1.58 does it again. maybe we need an init parameter? Anybody else with the same problem? (The editbuffers are initialised only once right after the update) > >2. in 157 i thought: yes, they altered the delay feedback parameters so it is not so easy to get too loud - earlier versions boosted the signal much too much. but in 158 you just get distortion if you have a feedback of 100 - 127. Anybody else who thinks that we changed the delay feedback characteristic twice? > >why? why was 1.57 so nice? Was it? The difference between 1.57 and 1.58 is that we fixed the well known little bugs (sorry!), but we didn't tough anything else. Ciao Christoph Kemper access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 17:24:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:31:57 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Reply-to: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:56:44 -0800 >Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator > >* From: Ronald Pieket > >>>1. Select the -START- (A127) patch. 2. Set OSC1 to square wave. 3. Set OSC1 PW to 120. 4. Switch on LFO1 ENV MODE 5. Select LFO1 sawtooth waveform. 6. Turn LFO1 rate to 64. 7. Set LFO1 PW1+2 to -30 >> >>Yah. After the other message mentioned LFO polarity, I figured out how it should be done. Sometimes I forget some of those hidden features buried >in >>the LCD menus. It is still not an elegant way of doing it though. > >What do you mean? All seven steps I described are done with the knobs and switches on the front panel. If any of the used features are "hidden" from you (but not from me), that is probably because you haven't been paying attention. > >Some people are impossible to please. > >- Ronald. Come on guys, leave the poor bloke alone. It's Fiday afternoon, he's probably been down the pub (wish I had). The point is PWM by the filter envelope would be nice and is worth considering in a future OS. Is there a technical reason why it can't be done? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 17:38:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:32:06 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: system 1.58 * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >1. 157 did not init the edit buffers. i said: thank god! but 1.58 does it again. maybe we need an init parameter? Here it still works: I am working in Multi-Single mode, change cutoff and resonance, switch off virus, turn it back on and the sound is still good :) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 18:11:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:06:36 EST Subject: Re: PWM via envelope generator * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >>Yes, yes, yes >>The parameter ist called TriSymmetry (for Triangle Symmetry) and is >available >>for both LFO 1 & 2. It is the same formaly mentioned and now famous >parameter >>that makes both LFO's becoming a AD-envelope when they are switched to >Env >>Mode and triangle. > >So, to get the "morphing" you just go to "edit symmetry" and record the sysex >from the value knob to your sequencer. Instant "virtual voltage controlled shape". Yep. And the TriSymmetry is a controller, not SysEx, and it is smoothed like every other continuous parameter. >Apart from that, I think it would be a good idea if users would spend more time really getting to know their machine before complaining to the list about "missing" features. You will be amazed . . . . Thanks Christoph ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 16:17:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:14:59 +0000 Subject: Re: PWM via envelope generator * From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de >Yes, yes, yes >The parameter ist called TriSymmetry (for Triangle Symmetry) and is available >for both LFO 1 & 2. It is the same formaly mentioned and now famous parameter >that makes both LFO's becoming a AD-envelope when they are switched to Env >Mode and triangle. So, to get the "morphing" you just go to "edit symmetry" and record the sysex from the value knob to your sequencer. Instant "virtual voltage controlled shape". ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 16:44:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:42:49 +0000 Subject: I know, I know . . . * From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de >So, to get the "morphing" you just go to "edit symmetry" and record the sysex Realising the slightly pedantic nature of some of the participants in this list I thought I had better correct myself. I didn't mean "sysex". I meant "controllers" Apart from that, I think it would be a good idea if users would spend more time really getting to know their machine before complaining to the list about "missing" features. You will be amazed . . . . ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 17:33:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:28:43 +0000 Organization: [1klang] Subject: Re: symmetric? * From: frank <1klang@gmx.net> access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "seb:h" >>Question: Does the Virus have symmetric Inputs? >> >>Thanks, >>Sebastian no. why do you need them? long distance connections? cu frank 1klang ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 22:40:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Chorus in Multi mode Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:47:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness A "Swap Parts" function would be much easier. 2. Having the chorus units be assignable, rather than hardwired to the first 4 parts. I find myself in an existential crisis whenever I start a new track. I can't decide (or know) in advance which parts will need the chorus facilities. What has happened so far (other wasting large parts of my life trying to predict the unpredictable) is that near the mixdown, I find myself shuffling parts around inside the multi and midi channels around on the sequencer to enable one part to use a chorus, or to audition a part with chorus. While this isn't the end of the world and isn't impossible to do, I could do without the extra work involved. If I was able to assign one of the 4 chorus resources to any part in the multi, with perhaps a message telling me that I would have to free up a resource (and the channels numbers that they are currently assigned to) if they were all assigned, this would make it much friendlier to use. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 22:31:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:25:16 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: List now uses Majordomo Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Moved the access-list from our old list processor to a new one... so lets see if this works. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 23:05:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Version 1.58 Docs Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:04:28 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" I have been successful downloading v1.58 but where is the little readme file? TSI does not yet have 1.58 or the readme. I have checked the Canine Site and do not see it. I have checked as much of Teklab as I know where to look but do not see an obvious indication as to its location. Perhaps someone could cue me in. Thx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 00:03:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:58:40 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Version 1.58 Docs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >I have been successful downloading v1.58 but where is the little readme file? TSI does not yet have 1.58 or the readme. I have checked the Canine Site and do not see it. I have checked as much of Teklab as I know where to look but do not see an obvious indication as to its location. ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/AccesVirus/OS_Upgrades/readme158.html j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 00:07:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:06:26 EST To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: PWM via envelope generator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com << Come on, make the effort! LFO polarity is not a "hidden" parameter. You have to set the amount anyway (using the value knob) and either you turn it right for positive. What's the prob? >> <> Since I haven't tried this since I first started the thread, I forgot that the polarity was on the same control. I have been working with so many other synths, I thought it was yet another option, like symetry etc. But none the less, my original thought was that changing the polarity would cause the sawtooth to ramp upwards, but still fall at its completion (which I didn't want). Apparently it doesn't as it is coming up from a negative value. The reason I even brought all this up to in the first place, is when I pressed the (FLT ENV MOD) button on OCS2, I expected to see more than just Pitch and FM Amount routings. That would be the place to also allow connection to pulsewidth or shape. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 01:28:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:24:32 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Version 1.58 Docs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/AccesVirus/OS_Upgrades/readme158.html > That link is missing an 's'. It should be: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/AccessVirus/OS_Upgrades/readme158.html I guess this is "correct my own post" day today... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 03:28:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: PWM via envelope generator Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:27:39 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" It would seem that a gentler tone could have been used. While these parameters are available from the front control, the application of LFO's as envelopes is an uncommon and abstract concept. An envelope generator is equally abstract; however it has been employed extensively on every synthesiser. Some gear approaches the same problem from a different angle by allowing an envelope to loop endlessly thereby acting as an LFO with only positive or negative polarity. Applying an envelope this way requires additional abstract thought, and it seemed that Elhardt was making a fair effort. Additionally, since each synth has it's own behavior and is imbue with its creator(s)' personality, it's much like expecting a Mac and PC to behave by the same rules. >* From Elhardt@aol.com > > ><< Come on, make the effort! LFO polarity is not a "hidden" parameter. You >have to set the amount anyway (using the value knob) and either you turn it >right for positive. What's the prob? >> > ><switches on the front panel. If any of the used features are "hidden" from you >(but not from me), that is probably because you haven't been paying attention.>> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 03:32:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 03:32:14 +0100 Subject: Removing sidepanels - warranty seal From: "Martin Aune" To: Access List X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Aune" Instead of rack mounting the Virus vertically, I'd like to mount it on a rack drawer so that it takes minimal space and will be easy sliding out for editing. Unfortunately the nice wooden sidepanels makes the Virus wider than 19". Can the side panels be removed without breaking the warranty seal on the bottom plate? Will the Virus be open at both sides then or is it metal behind? Perhaps Access could produce some thinner wooden panels so that it will fit on a drawer but still look good? Martin ------------------------------- makrokosmos@oslo.online.no http://home.sol.no/~klikk ------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 03:42:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Re: PWM via envelop generator Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:39:05 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >You make a good point. While the Matrix 6 has it's own limitations, it has a huge number of possiblities when it comes to routing modulators to destinations, including the one you mention. I have a Matrix-6, and I agree it is a great and very powerful synthesizer. Of course it is very tedious to program (as everyone at Access knows :-) ) but it can produce amazing sounds. Filters are rather weak though - I intend to run some Matrix patches through the Virus filters soon and hear the results! >has a huge array of modulations and destinations. The Waldorf Q (16 voices, but alas only 4 timbres) promises routing capabilities on par with 'ancient' and venerable Matrix 12. My friend has a Matrix 12. Very powerful, amazing flexibility for the time, fantastic keyboard (polyphonic aftertouch, wow!). But it goes out of tune every 20 minutes and it is very unpredicable. We find the Matrix-6 much more stable, I hardly ever need to retune mine. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 03:42:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Re: Access mailinglist history. Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:39:11 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >oscillator is what creates harmonic overtones. Oddly enough, most people who use the FM parameter on the Matrix 6 don't understand its purpose, and they use it to blur the filter's sound. At any rate, this would be referred to a as a two-operator FM sound. 1 carrier, 1 modulator. I didn't understand it until now, thanks a lot. In my defence, this is because I bought my Matrix-6 used and without a manual, so I had to figure everything out myself. Good way to learn though :) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 03:42:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: PWM via envelop generator Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:39:13 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >By the way, one fact that is possibly unknown: The PW controller range goes only from 50% to 100 %, but the LFO modulation range makes the full 0 to 100% Christoph, what is the point of this, if any? As I understand it, oscillator phase is not distinguishable at audible frequencies, so a 5% pulse width should sound the same as 95% pulse width. It is the same wave with a different phase. Does this become significant when you are using FM? I notice interesting effects when both oscillators are of pulse waves with different widths, it adds some randomness to the sound, especially in an arpeggio. I started with Rob's Bass-on patch (b49) and added some FM without sync - very weird metallic noises. But I am not 100% sure what the LFO is doing to the sound when it modulates PW :-. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 03:49:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Version 1.58 Docs Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:49:01 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" Thanks. Got it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 04:16:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: about Virus&Win98&MIDI (was: RE: Nasty Bug) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 19:13:30 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >* From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >>It will be fine for MIDI, I only have crashes with digital audio (and this >>is not really the fault of Windows - I am a PC technician so I am sure > >When does it happen? Which Soundcard? With Layla from Event Electronics, and Cakewalk 6. I think the error-trapping in CW6 is not too great. The CPU is only 133MHz (although I work in a computer store I am lazy to upgrade my own machine), so I think there are probably buffer overruns and Cakewalk does not manage this well. Layala is a good card but Event have still not filled their promise to provide Mac drivers or any PC drivers that use the DSP chip or are DirectX compatible. I bought it mostly because of the DSP they promoted in their adverts, which are just lies. Bastards. Sometimes I think about switching to Logic, because your environment tool looks very cool - good way to control many different pieces of gear. But Logic is pretty expensive, and the last time I tried a demo (3.0 I think) the interface was not helpful...after 30 minutes I still couldn't play anything. Do you think I should check it again? :) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 05:58:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:56:48 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com >From Buddha wrote: << you can do all this using lfo 1 in envelope mode. In lfo mode it functions as a one shot that is, it goes through its cycle only once and stays there, exactly as you want. >> Thanks, but I know how to do it, as per other messages. >From "B. Hamiltoin" wrote: <> Actually the concept is rather simple, just as long as there is enough flexibility in the Virus to shape the LFO in the way you want. It appears so on the Virus. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 09:13:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 03:12:02 EST To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: PWM (JP-8 vs MKS-80) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com <> I have a Jupiter-8 and a 1985 Roland catalog that shows the MKS-80 + programmer. The MKS-80 "Super Jupiter" is pretty much a rack mount JP-8 with just a few differences such as: 1) MKS has velocity and after touch control of some parameters, the JP8 doesn't. 2) Keyfollow on the envelopes is completely variable on the MKS, not just a switch for on/off as on the JP8 3) LFO modulation to VCA is completely variable on the MKS, not just a 4 position switch as on the JP8 4) Looks like you can sync VCO1 to VCO2 or VCO2 to VCO1 on the MKS, but only VCO2 to VCO1 on the JP8 5) MKS has a couple of Unison modes, JP8 only one. 6) But the JP8 has a switchable 24/12dB filter, while it looks like the MKS only has a 24dB filter. BOTH allow pulsewidth modulation with the filter envelope! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 02:40:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 01:36:44 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: PWM via envelop generator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha Hi Elhardt, you can do all this using lfo 1 in envelope mode. In lfo mode it functions as a one shot that is, it goes through its cycle only once and stays there, exactly as you want. If you select saw for example you can use it in both polarities to swing ths pulse width up or down (selecting triangle and using the Tri symmetry and Trig phase parameters will give you a widely adjustable attack/decay envelope also with reversible polarity.) Then using the pulse width knob to choose the width of the pulse that you want at the end of the envelope's cycle, use lfo rate to adjust the time and lfo amount to adjust depth (positive or negative) Simple. You can then use lfo 3 to provide the vibrato that you want (with adjustable fade in) Which leaves lfo 2 and the filter envelope free for other things (plus the other destination of lfo 1.) I hope this helps. Bilbo Bagginz >What I meant by staying high was like what I wanted to do with an envelope. That is, the attack portion swings the pulse width up (adding coarseness) and stays there (sustain level) until the key is released. I don't want it to fall back to a hollow sounding square wave as the LFO finishes it's cycle. It is kind of useful for bowed type sounds. I will have to look more into polarity and other options, but then I lose LFO1 for vibrato, not to mention that this all is a very awkward way to do things if it can be done at all. ********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 13:33:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: PWM (JP-8 vs MKS-80) off topic Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:33:22 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Elhardt@aol.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: zaterdag 21 november 1998 9:29 Onderwerp: Re: PWM (JP-8 vs MKS-80) |* From Elhardt@aol.com | |<> | |I have a Jupiter-8 and a 1985 Roland catalog that shows the MKS-80 + |programmer. The MKS-80 "Super Jupiter" is pretty much a rack mount JP-8 with |just a few differences such as: Do you have also Groove Electronics Midi in your JP-8. Well as I have heard is the MKS-80 in fact a Jupiter-6 with two extra voices and rack-mount. Because there is a different in sound with the Jupiter-6 and Jupiter-8 I had this of topic question. Thanks for the info Rob Papen p.s. SCRITTI POLITTI: CUPID&PSYCHE 85 [ Where are you? MR.Green are you still there?] |1) MKS has velocity and after touch control of some parameters, the JP8 |doesn't. |2) Keyfollow on the envelopes is completely variable on the MKS, not just a |switch for on/off as on the JP8 |3) LFO modulation to VCA is completely variable on the MKS, not just a 4 |position switch as on the JP8 |4) Looks like you can sync VCO1 to VCO2 or VCO2 to VCO1 on the MKS, but only |VCO2 to VCO1 on the JP8 |5) MKS has a couple of Unison modes, JP8 only one. |6) But the JP8 has a switchable 24/12dB filter, while it looks like the MKS |only has a 24dB filter. | |BOTH allow pulsewidth modulation with the filter envelope! |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 19:26:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Positivo" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unwanted mail Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:25:25 PST X-Sender-Ip: 127.0.0.1 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Positivo" please remove me (positivo@mailexcite.com) from this mailinglist.... 50 mails a day is a bit to much!! On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:33:22 +0100, Rob Papen wrote: >* From "Rob Papen" > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Elhardt@aol.com >Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: zaterdag 21 november 1998 9:29 >Onderwerp: Re: PWM (JP-8 vs MKS-80) > > >|* From Elhardt@aol.com >| >|<> >| >|I have a Jupiter-8 and a 1985 Roland catalog that shows the MKS-80 + |programmer. The MKS-80 "Super Jupiter" is pretty much a rack mount JP-8 with >|just a few differences such as: > >Do you have also Groove Electronics Midi in your JP-8. Well as I have heard is the MKS-80 in fact a Jupiter-6 with two extra voices >and rack-mount. >Because there is a different in sound with the Jupiter-6 and Jupiter-8 I had >this of topic question. > >Thanks for the info > >Rob Papen > >p.s. SCRITTI POLITTI: CUPID&PSYCHE 85 [ Where are you? MR.Green are you still there?] > >|1) MKS has velocity and after touch control of some parameters, the JP8 |doesn't. >|2) Keyfollow on the envelopes is completely variable on the MKS, not just a >|switch for on/off as on the JP8 >|3) LFO modulation to VCA is completely variable on the MKS, not just a 4 |position switch as on the JP8 >|4) Looks like you can sync VCO1 to VCO2 or VCO2 to VCO1 on the MKS, but only >|VCO2 to VCO1 on the JP8 >|5) MKS has a couple of Unison modes, JP8 only one. |6) But the JP8 has a switchable 24/12dB filter, while it looks like the MKS >|only has a 24dB filter. >| >|BOTH allow pulsewidth modulation with the filter envelope! > |___________________________________________________________________________ >|The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >|is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >|available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private e-mail at http://mail.excite.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 20:58:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:46:16 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: PWM (JP-8 vs MKS-80) off topic Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 01:33 PM 11/21/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Rob Papen" p.s. SCRITTI POLITTI: CUPID&PSYCHE 85 [ Where are you? MR.Green are you still there?] > What's this all about Rob? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 22:16:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Access mailinglist history. Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:15:02 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" Glad that this factoid was of some value. You can actually create an whole new universe of sounds using simple two-op FM (additive) synthesis. Analog FM synthing is something of a lost art. >From owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 20 18:48:00 1998 Received: from [207.215.53.36] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail308906927836335065324973486987556199490; Fri Nov 20 18:48:00 1998 >Received: (from majordomo@localhost) > by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA25463 for access-list-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:45:51 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) > by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA25452 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:45:41 -0800 Received: from anig-browl (dynamic12.pm06.sf3d.best.com [209.24.235.76]) > by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id SAA18230 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:41:23 -0800 (PST) >From: "Anig Browl" To: >Subject: RE: Re: Access mailinglist history. Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:39:11 -0800 >Message-ID: <000101be14f8$1f1705c0$4ceb18d1@anig-browl> MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal >In-Reply-To: <36548560.BeroList-2.5.8@tl36.teklab.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. >X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness > >* From "Anig Browl" > >>oscillator is what creates harmonic overtones. Oddly enough, most people who use the FM parameter on the Matrix 6 don't understand its purpose, and they use it to blur the filter's sound. At any rate, this >>would be referred to a as a two-operator FM sound. 1 carrier, 1 modulator. > >I didn't understand it until now, thanks a lot. In my defence, this is because I bought my Matrix-6 used and without a manual, so I had to figure >everything out myself. Good way to learn though :) > >Anig Browl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 22:24:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: PWM via envelop generator Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:24:15 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" >* From "Anig Browl" > >>You make a good point. While the Matrix 6 has it's own limitations, it has a huge number of possiblities when it comes to routing modulators >>to destinations, including the one you mention. > >I have a Matrix-6, and I agree it is a great and very powerful synthesizer. >Of course it is very tedious to program (as everyone at Access knows :-) ) >but it can produce amazing sounds. Filters are rather weak though - I intend >to run some Matrix patches through the Virus filters soon and hear the results! > At the risk of getting somewhat off-topic by digressing on the Matrix 6, may I suggest you begin to run some rather standard synth sounds (any analog or analog modelling gear) through an advanced FX processor such as the Roland RSP 550. One patch on this unit splits the frequencies of a sound into low and high. It then auto pans each component on opposite sides of the stereo field back and forth. I really began to appreciate the sound of my old M6 again. What I'm saying essentially is that a little FX, if unusual can make the sound "pop" compensating for some inherent "deficiencies." >>has a huge array of modulations and destinations. The Waldorf Q (16 voices, but alas only 4 timbres) promises routing capabilities on par with 'ancient' and venerable Matrix 12. > >My friend has a Matrix 12. Very powerful, amazing flexibility for the time, >fantastic keyboard (polyphonic aftertouch, wow!). But it goes out of tune >every 20 minutes and it is very unpredicable. We find the Matrix-6 much more >stable, I hardly ever need to retune mine. I would look into having a competent tech make some modifications. Start with the power supply and see if the problem persists. I'm sure there are other things that better quality components can provide without messing up the sound. > >Anig Browl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 21 22:42:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "LFO" To: Subject: Virus OS Versions Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:55:17 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hello- What is the benefit of OS1.57 over 1.54? I couldn't find any information at the TSI site. Thanks. LFO X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 01:53:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: DLaba17029@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:50:03 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus OS Versions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DLaba17029@aol.com Go here for Virus info..it's the definitive site- http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ Dave ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 03:49:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:48:30 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: PWM (JP-8 vs MKS-80) off topic Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com --------------------- <> Actually I have four Jupiter-8s. Three of them have DCB interfaces and Roland's DCB to Midi converter boxes. The other one doesn't have DCB or Midi. <> Since the Jupiter-6 is very similar to the Jupiter-8 in features, it all depends how you want to look at it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 04:48:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.179.6.185] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus OS Versions Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:47:23 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" Oftentimes it's better to navigate straight to the FTP site as ftp://ftp.tsi-gmbh.de or ftp://ftp.teklab.com. This way you will see all the files that are accessible rather than just one linked to a web page. If you go to the tsi site, you will find the 1.57 docs. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 06:00:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "LFO" To: Subject: Re: Virus OS Versions Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:13:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "LFO" Thanks to everybody for the OS info. I just got my Virus 2 days ago so I'm looking for all the additional info I can find! I'm sure you guys will be fielding more questions from me :) LFO ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 06:18:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:17:46 EST To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Virus Sounds on CD Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Davidzzz@aol.com Hi everybody, I remember that about a month ago people were wondering if any CDs existed with the Virus on it. Well... My new CD features the Virus on every song. It's an instrumental Techno type album with me on keyboards, guitars and stuff, Produced by Anthony J. Resta (who's does mixing, programing and drumming for Collective Soul, Duran Duran, Extreme,...). If you're interested e-mail me at: Davidzzz@aol.com. David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 08:15:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:22:43 -0800 From: Pytel Thomas Organization: @Home Network To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsibscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Pytel Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 21:35:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:36:17 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: sender in access list and qy list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Helllo! I hope I am not wrong, but don't you manage one of these two lists? I have a question then: The sender in the access list has been changed to the sender, not 'access-list@..'. I always used this to transfer my access-list massages to a mailbox by sorting messages by sender, and the only selecting 'access-list...'. This was not possible with the QY list, and now I must re-read eacht messages before I can decide to trash a message, or to put it into one of the mbox-es, like qy-list.mbx or virus.mbx. Is it possible to put before the sender a remark, like from access list or a , so you get something like sender: a.l. when the old was di-mi@dds.nl Bye! Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 21:39:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:40:17 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: last message... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda That last message was meant for Jay Vaughan.... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 22 22:05:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:06:51 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: bugfixes.txt (was Re: PWM via envelop generator) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Woow! Cool! Since which OS is this? I love this option in my (again :p )Korg MS-10. It would be nice to have a 'bugfixes.txt', to see what the novelties are on each new OS. Dimitri. At 08:58 20-11-98 EST, you wrote: >* From: CKe9644719@aol.com > >>* From: Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>By the way, I suggested earlier that it would be nive to have an assignable LFO waveshape, to morph between saw-triangle-reversedsaw. (changing the place of the top of a triangle between 0% and 100% of the phase). Os this possible? > > >Yes, yes, yes >The parameter ist called TriSymmetry (for Triangle Symmetry) and is available for both LFO 1 & 2. It is the same formaly mentioned and now famous parameter that makes both LFO's becoming a AD-envelope when they are switched to Env Mode and triangle. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 01:15:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:13:30 -0800 From: Anthony Rodriguez To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Patches X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Anthony Rodriguez Are their any web sites that I can find cutom Virus patches on? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 01:35:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:32:08 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: sender in access list and qy list Cc: di-mi@dds.nl Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 09:36 PM 11/22/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From Dimitri Sijperda >The sender in the access list has been changed to the sender, not 'access-list@..'. I always used this to transfer my access-list massages to a mailbox by sorting messages by sender, and the only selecting 'access-list...'. So, instead of using "From:" as the header to sort on, use "To:" instead. Or, alternatively, if your mail program (I use Eudora) see's "owner-access-list" in the "Sender:" field, tell it to filter into your Access Virus mailing list box... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 05:48:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Upgrading the OS: Tip Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:47:40 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" My Access came with v 1.51 and for many months I have been trying to send the OS to the VIRUS with no luck. I was using Cakewalk 6.0, 7.01 and 8.01 as well as Cubase VST for Windows. None of these products worked. In the case of Cubase, it would hang the whole system. With Cakewalk (maybe someday the meaning of the term "cakewalk" will be changed to mean "something that is nearly impossible to master" instead of "easily mastered."), the VIRUS would always report that there were CHECKSUM FAILURES. Since v 1.58 uses file spec "0" I decided to try the Windows 95 plug-in ActiveMovie. This worked perfectly. So if it has some value, go for it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 11:42:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: Elhardt@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:46:20 +0000 Subject: Re: PWM (JP-8 vs MKS-80) off topic Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk If anyone out there is trying to get hold of a Jupiter 8........ Now you know why you can't find one! >Actually I have four Jupiter-8s. Three of them have DCB interfaces and Roland's DCB to Midi converter boxes. The other one doesn't have DCB or Midi. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 12:47:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Virus and trigger patterns Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:48:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" |* From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan | |At 01:33 PM 11/21/98 +0100, you wrote: |>* From "Rob Papen" |>p.s. SCRITTI POLITTI: CUPID&PSYCHE 85 [ Where are you? MR.Green are you |>still there?] |> | |What's this all about Rob? Sorry a bit far off topic, but Scritty Politty is a band of the 80's with great music. A lot of good synth-work in it. They made hits like Absolute and Wood beez I guess it's more logic to call about..Virus In the Microwave-II and XT there is the option to make a trigger rythm in the arpeggiator. You can make with that more complex arpeggiator multies. Maybe an idea for an update feature. Rob | | | |j. | |-- |Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com |Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com |Partner, TekLab | la, calif. | Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 11:01:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:01:04 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus OS Versions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de >THX... most of the work has been done by Canine in muenster germany. Canine (K9) was the very helpful little robot dog in the British science fiction T.V. series "Doctor Who". Anyone remember him? J.A.H. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 18:06:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: robpapen@multiweb.nl, access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:10:28 +0000 Subject: Scritti Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >Sorry a bit far off topic, but Scritty Politty is a band of the 80's with great music. A lot of good synth-work in it. They made hits like Absolute and Wood beez >I guess it's more logic to call about..Virus Not forgetting "Lions After Slumber" and "The Sweetest Girl" I'd quite forgotten these little gems of musical history. Thanx for reminding me MR. Papen. I'm sure I heard that they released some new material not so long ago. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 18:48:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:46:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: message header in maillinglist Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I was just wandering-what the message X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness in de header of all mail from the list means :-) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 19:03:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:02:16 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" >It is known, that Cakewalk has problem with updating the Virus out of some >reason. >Cubase VST 3.55 also has a bug that make it impossible to playback longer >SysEx files. > >Christoph Kemper >access Yes. I had read the TSi comment that Cakewalk was not recommended but they erroneously reported that Cubase VST would work. I find it ironic that $700 worth of the the most powerful audio sequencers (for Windows) can't perform this seemingly simple task, but something that comes free from Microsoft can. I never tried the previous versions, which were prepared using MIDI file spec 1, but thanks to Access for using spec 0 (since there's only one track - no need for format 1). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 19:15:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.95.223.242] From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:14:04 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "B. Hamiltoin" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 19:47:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: b_c_hamilton@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:42:15 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >>My Access came with v 1.51 and for many months I have been trying to send the OS to the VIRUS with no luck. I was using Cakewalk 6.0, 7.01 and 8.01 as well as Cubase VST for Windows. None of these products worked. >It is known, that Cakewalk has problem with updating the Virus out of some reason. Cubase VST 3.55 also has a bug My Logic Audio Windows (3.5 and 3.6) sent the OS Update without any errors... With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 19:52:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:47:46 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com I searched the net and found a shareware midi sequencer called JAZZ (for PC). I used it to upgrade the Virus successfully. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 20:47:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:44:58 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Scritti Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht he, Songs to remember is one of my all-time favourites. does anyone remember the 45rpm pre-langue lp? with CONFIDENCE and P.A.s... wherever Green is now... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 21:17:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:11:03 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Scritti Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 05:10 PM 11/23/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>Sorry a bit far off topic, but Scritty Politty is a band of the 80's with great music. A lot of good synth-work in it. They made hits like Absolute and Wood beez >>I guess it's more logic to call about..Virus >Not forgetting "Lions After Slumber" and "The Sweetest Girl" I'd quite forgotten these little gems of musical history. Thanx for reminding me MR. Papen. I'm sure I heard that they released some new material not so long ago. Yeah, I was quite a big fan of Scritti Politti in the 80's, I was just wondering if maybe Mr. Papen had anything to do with them, given his sound-design hat... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 21:18:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:12:11 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: message header in maillinglist Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >I was just wandering-what the message >X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >in de header of all mail from the list means :-) It's to let you all know that if you ever want to buy us a beer, it's supposed to be Guinness. Actually it was a joke I was playing on some other mailing list, but it got copied to a lot of other mailing lists when I added them, because the config files were similar... :) But, it's a part of TekLab history now, and thus cannot be removed. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 21:55:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:57:46 +0100 From: Spielmann Roger To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Spielmann Roger unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 22:10:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:07:39 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Jazz for Upgrading the OS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda >I searched the net and found a shareware midi sequencer called JAZZ (for PC). >I used it to upgrade the Virus successfully. I just wanted to say this too! In fact, I always change the tempo from 120 to 255 BPM, to do the upgrade faster. Without any problems. It also works on Linux with X-windows. I think that Jazz is the best to use for sending the upgrades. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 22:14:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:13:25 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: message header in maillinglist Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 12:12 23-11-98 -0800, you wrote: >* From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >>X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >It's to let you all know that if you ever want to buy us a beer, >it's supposed to be Guinness. >But, it's a part of TekLab history now, and thus cannot be removed. Well, it's not really a problem, actually, Guiness is great beer, and everyone should know that! :) If I'd meet the TekLab crew in a cafe, how much pints would I have to buy? (How much member does teklab have?) Dimitri ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 23 22:51:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:46:31 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: message header in maillinglist Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >>>X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness >>It's to let you all know that if you ever want to buy us a beer, >it's supposed to be Guinness. >>But, it's a part of TekLab history now, and thus cannot be removed. >Well, it's not really a problem, actually, Guiness is great beer, and everyone should know that! :) >If I'd meet the TekLab crew in a cafe, how much pints would I have to buy? (How much member does teklab have?) You'd have to buy 6 pints. 4 for me, and 2 for Carlo, coz he's a lightweight... And the paid contractors we sometimes hire don't get to drink with us anyway, coz knowing those bastards they'd add the time to their timecards... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 16:51:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:40:39 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: How many access-list subscribers are the Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Why all the ego and with all the excellent musicians and sound designers where are the goods to share? Thought I ask. Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From Kai Niggemann > >>Jay, as a matter of interest, how many people are currently subscribed to the list? > >there are over two hundred different people subscribed to the list. Like I have said before, Access, their German distributor TSi and sequencermakers Emagic are all monitoring the list. Plus there are some excellent musicians and sound designers who have also been subscribed for quite some time. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nicht Küssen! Das ist sowas Gemeines; aber lieben, wenn's möglich ist" (Gretchen zu Goethe, in "Dichtung und Wahrheit") > >Phase 26 Neue Medien GmbH, Haus Weitmar, 44795 Bochum >http://www.phase26.de/ Tel: 0234 9431360 Fax: 0234 9431361 > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 10:05:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Scritti and Virus sounds Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:05:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" | |Yeah, I was quite a big fan of Scritti Politti in the 80's, I was just |wondering if maybe Mr. Papen had anything to do with them, given his |sound-design hat... No, I did not work with Scritti Politti (pitty). But loved the production! I hope (after releasing the EMU CD-ROM for the EOS samplers) people will know me better in the USA and England as sound-designer. Many people in the USA use my sounds without nowing it, like the two sets I did made for the ASR-10 which are on CD-ROM 4 and 14 (4Meg demos 1 till 10). Ensoniq did not want the RP in the end of the sound-name. The name of the set was AS-11 and AS-12 (Techno synth 1+2). They did sell a lot of these CD-ROMS and most people thought that the sounds came from Ensoniq themself. In Europe some people know me of the Dutch Synthesizer Group PERU and NOVA. We had two number one hits. One in the Benelux and one in Austria. Regards, Rob | | |j. | |-- |Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com |Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com |Partner, TekLab | la, calif. | Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 10:33:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: E-mail address Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:07:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi, Please check my e-mail address in your address-book. The right address is: robpapen@multiweb.nl Thanks and with best regards, Rob Papen p.s. New on my homepage: comments to my sounds www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl New! comments to my sounds: www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is out our comming out: -Signature Sound-Set for Access Virus (out !!) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for EMU EOS samplers very soon ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Address: ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 Account number: Rabobank Pey-Posterholt 14.20.11.649 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 10:36:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:33:54 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Re: Scritti and Virus sounds Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S Yes, I remember a performance on the Dutch music programme 'Top Pop', where Nova played. I could still sing the tune by head. Maybe I should send a voice-email? :p I must say, I especially liked the sounds themselves in it. Not really the melody. But it's very often the simple melodies I don't like which become popular in the top 40. Though, I think that often the simple melodies have the most strength: Think of the Chorales of J.S. Bach. in the Weinachts Oratorium. Didn't Nova also play an own version of the tune of the movie E.T.? Dimitri. At 10:05 24-11-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Rob Papen" |Yeah, I was quite a big fan of Scritti Politti in the 80's, I was just |wondering if maybe Mr. Papen had anything to do with them, given his |sound-design hat... > >No, I did not work with Scritti Politti (pitty). But loved the production! I hope (after releasing the EMU CD-ROM for the EOS samplers) people will know me better in the USA and England as sound-designer. > >Many people in the USA use my sounds without nowing it, like the two sets I did made for the ASR-10 which are on CD-ROM 4 and 14 (4Meg demos 1 till 10). Ensoniq did not want the RP in the end of the sound-name. The name of the set was AS-11 and AS-12 (Techno synth 1+2). They did sell a lot of these CD-ROMS and most people thought that the sounds came from Ensoniq themself. > >In Europe some people know me of the Dutch Synthesizer Group PERU and NOVA. We had two number one hits. One in the Benelux and one in Austria. Regards, > >Rob ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 16:07:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:11:58 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Kai Niggemann Subject: Re: How many access-list subscribers are the Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kai Niggemann >Jay, as a matter of interest, how many people are currently subscribed to the list? there are over two hundred different people subscribed to the list. Like I have said before, Access, their German distributor TSi and sequencermakers Emagic are all monitoring the list. Plus there are some excellent musicians and sound designers who have also been subscribed for quite some time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nicht Küssen! Das ist sowas Gemeines; aber lieben, wenn's möglich ist" (Gretchen zu Goethe, in "Dichtung und Wahrheit") Phase 26 Neue Medien GmbH, Haus Weitmar, 44795 Bochum http://www.phase26.de/ Tel: 0234 9431360 Fax: 0234 9431361 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 15:45:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:42:04 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: How many access-list subscribers are the Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de Jay, as a matter of interest, how many people are currently subscribed to the list? J.A.H. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 19:41:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:28:39 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: How many access-list subscribers are the Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 07:40 AM 11/24/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From monokrom@sirius.com >Why all the ego and with all the excellent musicians and sound designers where are the goods to share? > Ego? I don't see any stinkin' ego! :) Though, were there any, I think the first thing I'd have to say is that you answered that with the second part of your question... Heh heh. But, certainly, there is no requirement to share sounds in order to be a member of this list... However - if anyone would *like* to start sharing patches, there is plenty of ftp space available here at TekLab for MIDI Sysex files. I'd be more than happy to get the tree going that has it's roots right here: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/AccessVirus/ In case you're wondering about my qualifications to run an ftp site, you should check this out some time: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/a3k/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 08:15:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:47:08 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus.ins file X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi to everbody on the list! I`ve defined a Cakewalk Instrument-definition for (what else?) the Virus. I`ve included the Bank-Select message and all Controllers. When somebody have trouble with dumping new OS with Cakewalk,always send the new OS-file on Output 1 on a multiple Output Midiinterface.Increase the Sequencerspeed to 70-80 bpm. It works. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool !!! Jens Wegerhoff Content-Type: application/x-internet-signup; name="Virus.ins" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Virus.ins" Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:Virus.ins (????/----) (00009FE6)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 09:26:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: How many access-list subscribers are the Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:03:24 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >Why all the ego and with all the excellent musicians and sound designers where >are the goods to share? Well we are lucky! Usually every day I find at least one valuable tip. Some people post patches too. But it is best to make your patches by your own hands and not using someone else's that you just downloaded. This way you can learn so much more and the effort is worth it. And you can also find the goods in record stores...Buddha records as Cosmosis and is one of my favorite artists. In fact I suddenly want to listen to 'Pigs in Space' :-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 10:39:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: A solution to non-syncing LFOs Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:39:51 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: dinsdag 24 november 1998 18:06 Onderwerp: A solution to non-syncing LFOs |* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk | |I don't know if anyone shared my previously reported difficulty in getting |the Virus's LFOs to sync to MIDI clock. You may remember me asking about this |a couple of weeks ago. I was trying to get LFO 1 to chop up chords synced to |1/16th notes while LFO 2 modulated a resonant filter with its random waveform |also synced to 1/16th notes. | |Well I have found the solution. You simply have to set the LFOs' Trig Phase |parameter to a value other than OFF. 1 will do for starters! It's so |blindingly obvious that I can't think why it took me so long to work it out! |Anyway I recommend you try it 'cos it sounds wicked. | I do have the same problem with my special Chord sounds (polyphone sequencers sounds) in the Signature Set. In these sounds I use both LFO's to make these sounds. Christof of Access told me that this is because of the high resulution in the Virus. This problem (which is no bug) will be solved he told. Rob Papen |Steve (n-tropic) | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 22:48:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:40:54 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus.ins file X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Jens Wegerhoff schrieb: Hi to everbody on the list! I`ve defined a Cakewalk Instrument-definition for (what else?) the Virus. I`ve included the Bank-Select message and all Controllers. When somebody have trouble with dumping new OS with Cakewalk,always send the new OS-file on Output 1 on a multiple Output Midiinterface.Increase the Sequencerspeed to 70-80 bpm. It works. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool !!! Jens Wegerhoff Iīm sorry for the mistake in the text. Itīs decrease, not increase.Donīt care about. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool !!! Jens Wegerhoff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Nov 24 17:37:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:33:38 +0000 Subject: A solution to non-syncing LFOs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk I don't know if anyone shared my previously reported difficulty in getting the Virus's LFOs to sync to MIDI clock. You may remember me asking about this a couple of weeks ago. I was trying to get LFO 1 to chop up chords synced to 1/16th notes while LFO 2 modulated a resonant filter with its random waveform also synced to 1/16th notes. Well I have found the solution. You simply have to set the LFOs' Trig Phase parameter to a value other than OFF. 1 will do for starters! It's so blindingly obvious that I can't think why it took me so long to work it out! Anyway I recommend you try it 'cos it sounds wicked. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 18:09:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Virus.ins file Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:14:26 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Well maybe that was my problem. I was always sending out the data on a port other than 1 since I had gear attached to that port. At any rate. ActiveMovie does it on any port, you just have to go to the MultiMedia control panel and select the default port as being the one the VIRUS is connected to. Thanks for INS file. -----Original Message----- From: Groove303@t-online.de [mailto:Groove303@t-online.de] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 12:47 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus.ins file Hi to everbody on the list! I`ve defined a Cakewalk Instrument-definition for (what else?) the Virus. I`ve included the Bank-Select message and all Controllers. When somebody have trouble with dumping new OS with Cakewalk,always send the new OS-file on Output 1 on a multiple Output Midiinterface.Increase the Sequencerspeed to 70-80 bpm. It works. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool !!! Jens Wegerhoff X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 05:29:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:33:36 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus in Yahoo! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com THANKS AARON!!! The site seams very cool!!! -M Aaron Johnston wrote: >* From Aaron Johnston > >Hello, > >My name is Aaron Johnston. I'm an editor at Yahoo! and a Virus owner. I created a category in Yahoo! for the Virus located here: > >http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Instruments/Keyboard_Instruments/Synthesizers_and_Samplers/Makes_and_Models/Access/Virus/ > >If any fellow list members have sites devoted to the Virus that I do not have listed, please forward your URL to me (masona@yahoo-inc.com) and I will include it. The site must be about the Virus or at least offer many features dedicated to the Virus. I don't make up the editorial rules at Yahoo! and they're pretty particular. > >Cheers! > >-- >Aaron Johnston >Yahoo, Inc. > >the science makes you weak. > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 22:51:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:52:39 -0800 From: Aaron Johnston Organization: huh? To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus in Yahoo! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron Johnston Hello, My name is Aaron Johnston. I'm an editor at Yahoo! and a Virus owner. I created a category in Yahoo! for the Virus located here: http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Instruments/Keyboard_Instruments/Synthesizers_and_Samplers/Makes_and_Models/Access/Virus/ If any fellow list members have sites devoted to the Virus that I do not have listed, please forward your URL to me (masona@yahoo-inc.com) and I will include it. The site must be about the Virus or at least offer many features dedicated to the Virus. I don't make up the editorial rules at Yahoo! and they're pretty particular. Cheers! -- Aaron Johnston Yahoo, Inc. the science makes you weak. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 00:59:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 18:57:09 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: PWM by envelopes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: << This subject seemed to generate quite a lot of debate at the end of last week and I expressed the opinion that we really ought to be given the opportunity to modulate pulse width using the filter envelope. I stand by this, but having experimented a bit at the weekend I have to say that the ability to modulate it using LFO1 in Env mode leaving the filter envelope free to modulate the filter independently can produce some lovely sounds. Sorry Access, it's not that we don't like the way you've done it, we just want everything to be possible and we want it yesterday:) >> I was the one who brought it up, but I was asking for no more features than the real analog synths used to have. Another missing feature some analogs had that I miss is the ability to scale the envelope time by tracking the keyboard. Almost all real percussive or plucked string acoustic instrument sounds sustain/decay a lot longer on low notes than high notes. Hold down a low key on a piano and it will last a long time. Hold a high key and the sound is very short. What would really be nice is if this were also linked to velocity so you could bounce back and forth between punchy staccato sounds or slow legato sounds based on velocity. Perhaps these will have to wait until the Virus II. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 01:53:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: PWM by envelopes Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:59:10 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com I was the one who brought it up, but I was asking for no more features than the real analog synths used to have. Another missing feature some analogs had that I miss is the ability to scale the envelope time by tracking the keyboard. Almost all real percussive or plucked string acoustic instrument sounds sustain/decay a lot longer on low notes than high notes. Hold down a low key on a piano and it will last a long time. Hold a high key and the sound is very short. What would really be nice is if this were also linked to velocity so you could bounce back and forth between punchy staccato sounds or slow legato sounds based on velocity. Perhaps these will have to wait until the Virus II. Yes. Perhaps someday there will be a button on the VIRUS labeled "Page 2" where you will have the ability to set up various parameters where 1 type of algorithm, such as an LFO or ENV, can modulate another. Then there will be a VIRUS III where virtually every paramater can control virtually every other param. (Why does this sound so familiar? What's that saying about history repeating itself..? Hmm...) X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 10:14:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:09:59 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus in Yahoo! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:52 PM +0100 on 25.11.1998 Aaron Johnston wrote: >* From Aaron Johnston > > >If any fellow list members have sites devoted to the Virus that I do not have listed, please forward your URL to me (masona@yahoo-inc.com) and I will include it. The site must be about the Virus or at least offer many features dedicated to the Virus. I don't make up the editorial rules at Yahoo! and they're pretty particular. Wow Aaron, thanks! that really is a valuable addition to the Virus user group! Thank you very much! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 10:33:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: PWM by envelopes Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 01:31:57 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Yes. Perhaps someday there will be a button on the VIRUS labeled "Page 2" where you will have the ability to set up various parameters where 1 type of algorithm, such as an LFO or ENV, can modulate another. Then there will be a VIRUS III where virtually every paramater can control virtually every other param. (Why does this sound so familiar? What's that saying about history repeating itself..? Hmm...) We don't need Virus 2 or 3 for this. I could imagine having 2 or 3 different virus operating systems where one might have less polyphony or multi-timbrality, but would have a matrix modulator instead >-) Anig Browl X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 10:40:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 9:36:11 +0000 Subject: PWM by envelopes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk This subject seemed to generate quite a lot of debate at the end of last week and I expressed the opinion that we really ought to be given the opportunity to modulate pulse width using the filter envelope. I stand by this, but having experimented a bit at the weekend I have to say that the ability to modulate it using LFO1 in Env mode leaving the filter envelope free to modulate the filter independently can produce some lovely sounds. Sorry Access, it's not that we don't like the way you've done it, we just want everything to be possible and we want it yesterday:) Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 11:10:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: robpapen@multiweb.nl, access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:08:23 +0000 Subject: Re: A solution to non-syncing LFOs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >|* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >| >|I don't know if anyone shared my previously reported difficulty in getting |the Virus's LFOs to sync to MIDI clock. You may remember me asking about this >|a couple of weeks ago. I was trying to get LFO 1 to chop up chords synced to >|1/16th notes while LFO 2 modulated a resonant filter with its random waveform >|also synced to 1/16th notes. >| >|Well I have found the solution. You simply have to set the LFOs' Trig Phase |parameter to a value other than OFF. 1 will do for starters! It's so |blindingly obvious that I can't think why it took me so long to work it out! >|Anyway I recommend you try it 'cos it sounds wicked. | > >I do have the same problem with my special Chord sounds (polyphone sequencers sounds) in the Signature Set. In these sounds I use both LFO's to make these sounds. Christof of Access told me that this is because of the high resulution in the Virus. >This problem (which is no bug) will be solved he told. > >Rob Papen > I'm not sure I follow what you are trying to say here Rob. I couldn't get my LFOs to trigger reliably on exact 1/16th note positions (or any other resolution I set the LFO clock to). This is now solved in the manner described above. What exactly is the problem you are having? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 11:33:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: E-mail address Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:29:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi, I use to receive the access discussion from access-list@tl36.teklab.com and since about a week I'm receiving everything from personals E-mail address...What happen ? Maybe it sounds very organize but I was receiving the Virus discussion on a separate folder... Cheers from London and remember...you have to do what you have to do 'cause if you don't...it won't be done. Dimitri II X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 11:39:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeff Fletcher To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Looking to buy a Virus. Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:38:33 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeff Fletcher Hi all, It's reasonably annoying, but no music shop here in South Africa has even heard of a Virus, never mind being able to sell me one. So is there someone one the list who is trying to sell one, or know of an online shop where I get one through mail order. Alternatively if there are any sales representatives monitoring the list, I would be happy to put you in touch with one of the local stores. Thanks, Jeff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 10:01:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:00:21 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Vocal type sounds. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de Anyone got any ideas for getting vocal sounding ooohs and aaaahs out of the virus. I almost got what I wanted by combining HP and LP filtering (with a slight offset and differing resonance) but I'm not quite there yet. Rob, perhaps? J.A.H. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 12:09:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:06:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Re: E-mail address Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S Hello Dimitri II! I also had this problem, and I sent Jay a mail, his suggestion was to upgrade my Eudora version and use its filter. So i took 3.0 lite, and gave the filter the instruction to move all incoming messages to the access mbox, which contain access-list@teklab.com in the from-header. Take care that you MATCH this on INCOMING and MANUAL (Alt-J sorts messages in inbox to access-mbox) Like this: -first create your new access mailbox. I call it 'access-list' -menu TOOLS , FILTERS -NEW -Match INCOMING, MANUAL -header: Reply-to -contains 'access-list@teklab.com' -ignore -(no further changes) -Action: Transfer to - 'access-list' -close the window, and it will ask to save it, say YES of course. -Try ALT-J -Your INbox is free from access messages now, and th next messages will be sent to 'access-list' Good luck! Dimitri I At 10:29 26-11-98 -0000, you wrote: >Hi, I use to receive the access discussion from access-list@tl36.teklab.com and since about a week I'm receiving everything from personals E-mail address...What happen ? Maybe it sounds very organize but I was receiving the Virus discussion on a separate folder... Cheers from London and remember...you have to do what you have to do 'cause if you don't...it won't be done. Dimitri II ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 12:24:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: E-mail address Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:18:22 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >I use to receive the access discussion from access-list@tl36.teklab.com and since about a week I'm receiving everything from personals E-mail address...What happen ? Maybe it sounds very organize but I was receiving the Virus discussion on a separate folder... I still do... I told Agent to sort the mails by the following criteria: "author: access-list@teklab.com or access-list@tl36.teklab.com" With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 14:02:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:19:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: E-mail address Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" thanks for the explanation with your permission I will put this into the FAQ (once I update it). think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 14:31:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:27:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri S Subject: Re: E-mail address Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri S That's okay! Please tell on the faq that i did it, and my URL is at http://145.99.128.7/dimi At home (I am on my work now) i'll check if the settings I talked about are all right. Dimitri. At 12:19 26-11-98 +0100, you wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" thanks for the explanation >with your permission I will put this into the FAQ (once I update it). think different! >Canine ------------------------------------------------ IP/URL: http://145.99.128.7/dimi mail: di-mi@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 14:55:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Rudolf Lindner To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Opcode Midi Interface Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:53:48 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rudolf Lindner Maybe some of you will find this interesting. Its not a big deal, but it took me so long to fix, that it could be worth distributing it. My virus is connected to my PC with a Opcode Midi-Translator PC Parallel Port Interface. When sending sysex-data (e.g. the weekly OS-updates) my PC used to hang. Only reboot helped here. After some research I found that changing a deeply hidden option solved the problem: Control Panel->Multi-media->Midi->[opcode interface]->Advanced->Settings->Advanced: Uncheck the Backwards compatibility box. Then the interface works also asynchronously. Seems that the Midi Driver was waiting for some handshake message. Rudolf -------------------------- In a world without walls and fences we don't need windows and gates. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:WINMAIL.DAT (????/----) (00009FED)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 15:44:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Opcode Midi Interface Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:39:16 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >My virus is connected to my PC with a Opcode Midi-Translator PC Parallel Port Interface. When sending sysex-data (e.g. the weekly OS-updates) my PC used to hang. Only reboot helped here. After some research I found that changing a deeply hidden option solved the problem: >Control Panel->Multi-media->Midi->[opcode interface]->Advanced->Settings->Advanced: Uncheck the Backwards compatibility box. Then the interface works also asynchronously. Seems that the Midi Driver was waiting for some handshake message. Which version of it's driver? With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 16:24:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: Looking to buy a Virus. Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:11:05 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" So is there someone one the list who is trying to sell one, or know of an online shop where I get one through mail order. Jeff ...go to my web page below, scroll down until you see " Music Central" and click . The price is US$ 1195.00 ....I almost ordered one yesterday but I got a Microwave XT instead .... take care .... ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Nov 25 17:02:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: CKe9644719@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:00:41 +0000 Subject: Re: A solution to non-syncing LFOs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>I don't know if anyone shared my previously reported difficulty in getting >>the Virus's LFOs to sync to MIDI clock. You may remember me asking about this >>a couple of weeks ago. I was trying to get LFO 1 to chop up chords synced >to >> >>1/16th notes while LFO 2 modulated a resonant filter with its random waveform >>also synced to 1/16th notes. >>Well I have found the solution. You simply have to set the LFOs' Trig >Phase >>parameter to a value other than OFF. > >It is a solution, but for what? >If you are receiving Midi-clock, the synced LFO's are triggered at the beginning of the bar, anyway. So both LFO's are in phase with the arrangement >and with each other. Does this cause problems in your situation? Possibly I haven'd understood your problem yet. This is precisely the point. My LFOs were only intermittently syncing to the beginning of the bar. Usually they would be in when I started my sequencer but would soon fall out - sounding as if they had dropped one or a few MIDI clock pulses. This could be demonstrated most clearly by setting the LFO Clock parameter to a value of 2/1 or similar (i.e. a number of bars for 1 LFO cycle). Although the LFOs were clearly synced to clock their phase was also clearly independent of the start of bar lines. Sometimes I could work for half an hour at a stretch with no problems other times they wouldn't lock to the pulse at all. I must stress to anyone reading this and thinking that the Virus is crap, that the solution outlined above works fine and I no longer have a problem. Also I should mention that Christoph and I have exchanged a few messages about this topic off the list. So Christoph, it would seem to me that if you set an LFO's Trig Phase parameter to a particular value then you can expect it to consistently start at that particular point in the waveform's cycle every time you trigger it, whether triggered by Key Trig or MIDI clock. If you set Trig Phase to OFF then you can expect the LFO to be free running and although it's frequency may be dictated by MIDI clock it's phase would not necessarily be so determined. However, it sounds to me like you are saying that you have written in some code to make the LFO's phase lock to clock regardless of the Trig phase setting. In which case I have to say it never worked for me! BTW, you mentioned in a mail to me that the arpeggiators tempo is "hard wired" to clock and does not use any tempo calculation. My arpeggiator's sync to clock is rock solid which implies that my MIDI clock strem is good, No? I therefore don't think that my LFO's loss of sync when its Trig Phase parameter is OFF could not be due to MIDI timing errors. Discuss in not less than 3,000 words:) Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 21:09:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Martin Selway" To: Subject: Re: Opcode Midi Interface Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:05:45 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Selway" There's a note about the Opcode 8p/se and that problem on my homepage (midi in/out). MARTIN mase@post5.tele.dk http://home5.inet.tele.dk/mase -----Original Message----- From: Sascha Kujawa To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 26. november 1998 15:47 Subject: Re: Opcode Midi Interface >* From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >>heya< > >>My virus is connected to my PC with a Opcode Midi-Translator PC Parallel Port >>Interface. When sending sysex-data (e.g. the weekly OS-updates) my PC used to hang. >>Only reboot helped here. After some research I found that changing a deeply hidden >>option solved the problem: >>Control Panel->Multi-media->Midi->[opcode interface]->Advanced->Settings->Advanced: >>Uncheck the Backwards compatibility box. Then the interface works also asynchronously. Seems that the Midi Driver was waiting for >>some handshake message. > >Which version of it's driver? > >With greetings from Germany > >Sascha Kujawa >Quality Assurance Manager >Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Nov 26 22:23:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:19:37 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocal type sounds. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de wrote: <> Getting reasonably good vocal sounds requires three filters. I can do it easily on my Nord Modular, and have come up with a very good Mellotron type choir patch. Perhaps setting up a multi patch where you could have two or three synth voices played simultaneously, would allow you to get closer. It would give you more filters to apply to the final composite sound. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 09:08:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: baldguys@mail.baynet.net Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:06:55 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Adam Hodgins Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Adam Hodgins unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 06:47:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:38:25 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Vocal type sounds. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 11:00 AM 11/26/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de > >Anyone got any ideas for getting vocal sounding ooohs and aaaahs out of the virus. I almost got what I wanted by combining HP and LP filtering (with a slight offset and differing resonance) but I'm not quite there yet. Go to "Ron's Virus Sounds" web page NOW! http://www.best.com/~rpieket/VirusSounds.html You'll find what you need... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 06:47:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:40:07 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: E-mail address Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I use to receive the access discussion from access-list@tl36.teklab.com and since about a week I'm receiving everything from personals E-mail address...What happen ? We changed list processors here at TekLab, and you now need to sort on the "To:" or "Sender:" fields instead of the "From:" field. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor]X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 06:47:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:42:15 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Ronald Pieket ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:45:00 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Ronald Pieket ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Thu Nov 26 10:44:50 1998 >Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA13293 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:44:49 -0800 Received: from best.com (dynamic46.pm07.sf3d.best.com [209.24.235.174]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with ESMTP id KAA22707 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:38:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <365DA040.FA8A2454@best.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:39:04 -0800 >From: Ronald Pieket >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Vocal type sounds. >References: <199811260857.JAA24743@gate01.schlafhorst.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >I did some sounds like that. I use two resonant band pass filters in parallel to simulate voice formats. The two assignable knobs on the front panel are set up to change the sound from oooh to aaah to iiih. The V:Formant patch is a pure sounding computer voice, using only a thin pulse as the filter source. The V:Talking patch is broader, less pure, and uses multiple detuned oscillators, PWM and effects to make it a more choral sound. > >The sounds are avaiable for download from my home page (www.best.com/~rpieket/Synth.html), and from other virus sound collection pages. > >- Ronald. > > >john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de wrote: > >>* From john-adrian.holt@schlafhorst.de >> >>Anyone got any ideas for getting vocal sounding ooohs and aaaahs out of the virus. I almost got what I wanted by combining HP and LP filtering (with a slight offset and differing resonance) but I'm not quite there yet. >> >>Rob, perhaps? >> >>J.A.H. >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 12:30:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:23:07 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: OT: new york Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I'll be in NYC next week, I'm sure there are quite a few new yorkans on this list, maybe you can tell me about anything virus or non virus that I shouldn't miss while I'm there? (I've been there before, I'm not looning for tourist tips but rather things that aren't so obvious...;) Any music stores that I should visit (besides Ash and Rogue)? Any gigs by some Virus user? I can't wait to hear about it, on the list or in private... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 12:51:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Syx Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:48:57 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi, I've try to dowload a few things from Canine page and some of them are in .SYX, I guess it means "system exclusive" but how am I supose to read or open this files ? I am working on PC using Cubase Audio XT. Thanx a lot for the module driver it looks fab ! Sayonara Dimitri II X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 13:17:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Richard Knight To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:16:34 -0000 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Richard Knight unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 15:37:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: U N S U B S C R I B E M E P L E A S E ...... Date: Fri, 27 Nov 98 16:37:44 +0200 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz from nico herz, nolowcut@gmx.de U N S U B S C R I B E M E P L E A S E ...... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "CHILL WITH EVERY FRAME" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 19:31:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Syx Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:26:33 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:48:57 -0000, "Dimitri TIKOVOI" wrote: >Thanx a lot for the module driver it looks fab ! Is this driver (Studio Module?) generally available? I'd like to try it if poss. If you have the .D file we can get it on the next Cubase CD. Cheers, Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Nov 27 22:19:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:08:18 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["B. Hamiltoin" ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:40:19 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["B. Hamiltoin" ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Fri Nov 27 09:40:14 1998 >Received: from hotmail.com (f264.hotmail.com [207.82.251.155]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24495 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:40:14 -0800 Received: (qmail 24505 invoked by uid 0); 27 Nov 1998 17:35:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19981127173535.24503.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.6.152 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:35:35 PST >X-Originating-IP: [209.179.6.152] >From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Upgrading the OS: Tip >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain >Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:35:35 PST > >Thanks, All. I'll check out JAZZ. I like a lot of things about CW Pro 8.0 but in some ways it boxes you into a particular way of working. Each software developer comes at the problem a little differently than another and usually brings something unique to the party. > >It's funny. I thought I'd contribute some little tidbit and got back much more information for my own use! > >>* From Elhardt@aol.com >> >> >>I searched the net and found a shareware midi sequencer called JAZZ >(for PC). >>I used it to upgrade the Virus successfully. > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 28 02:20:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:07:29 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["B. Hamiltoin" ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:59:32 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["B. Hamiltoin" ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Fri Nov 27 16:59:29 1998 >Received: from hotmail.com (f139.hotmail.com [207.82.251.18]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA01724 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:59:28 -0800 Received: (qmail 24282 invoked by uid 0); 28 Nov 1998 00:55:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19981128005524.24281.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.6.54 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:55:23 PST >X-Originating-IP: [209.179.6.54] >From: "B. Hamiltoin" To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: FYI: FM Synthesis >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain >Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:55:23 PST > >Well I've finally gotten around to experimenting with FM on the Virus and can tell you that it's set up quite differently than on the Matrix 6. The Virus way is more straightforward and easier to grasp than the Matrix 6. It's also, arguably more usable, since you can use the filters on it. > >As I said, on the Matrix 6, the Filter set to self oscillate becomes the carrier sine wave and Osc1 becomes the modulator. On the Virus, Osc2 is the carrier and Osc1 is also the modulator. The Virus way allows you to use the filters on the sound and to use a different waveform for the carrier other than a sine wave. The only explanation I can come up with for why the M6 uses the filter is that its oscillators are not capable of sine waves. > >To hear the effect of FM synthesis on the Virus, use Osc2 set to a sine wave as the fundamental tone and with the M6, use the Filter frequency with Res at +63. With the Virus, open both filters completely to hear the pure sound. Adjust later if needed. > >With either synth, the relationship between the pitch of the fundamental sine wave and Osc1 and FM amount is what causes "distortions" in the sine wave of the carrier, thus producing new overtones/harmonics. In fact, you may want to eliminate Osc1 from mix altogether. The waveform of Osc1 is not really important (with either the M6 or the Virus) since it's the frequency of Osc1 and FM amount that's doing the work. > >One of the classic FM sound effects is to sweep the pitch of Osc1 up or down. You might want to lower the volume because the amplitude can punch up due to the density of the waveform produced. > >For organ type sounds, set the Osc1 pitch in 12 semitone increments above the fundamental. On the M6 this a little tricky because you have to figure out the pitch of the fundamental (try a guitar tuner) and then you have get the keyboard tracking just right which I never seemed to be able to do. Also, since the M6 uses a real VCF as the fundamental, getting it to track perfectly may be impossible. I tried using the Tracking Generator to fix certain pitch problems, but it was never perfect. > >Well good luck and have fun! With the Virus you can have a different fundamental waveform besides a sine wave as you can also do with the Yamaha TX-81Z and their AWM engines. > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 28 13:03:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:45:40 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Zipper noise on volume Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht when i use a single with lots of delay, delay clock 1/32, and high clock speed, there will be zipper noise when turning the volume down or up. never had this before - if fx send is 0, the fade is smooth again. comments? regards .g.a. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 28 11:03:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:55:35 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["B. Hamiltoin" ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:07 AM +0100 on 28.11.1998 tek1 -- Jay Vaughan wrote: >>One of the classic FM sound effects is to sweep the pitch of Osc1 up or down. You might want to lower the volume because the amplitude can punch up due to the density of the waveform produced. So if I understand you correctly, this can be done using an LFO if it is fast enough, right? (I don't know much about FM, so I'm just trying to make sure). think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 28 12:13:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [152.163.194.176] From: "Landon Chappell" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:12:44 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Landon Chappell" TO MUCH MAIL!!! good bye ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 21:03:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mz_mail@pop.gmx.de Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:28:23 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Rackmount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >Still waiting anxiously for the rackmount!!!!!!!!!!!!! No word, can someone please help me with this (CK?). I need it before March (I know it's just almost December, but deliverings are slow...). I wouldn't even mind paying double the price for it, I need to have it. Try another dealer. My old dealer (quite one of the big ones in Germany) told me for three months he ordered it and it wasn't available. I moved into another town then (not because of the rackmount, mind me;) and had a second try. I got the kit within five days!!! Or look on the internet. There are several shops there, one of the German ones is www.thomann.de. I think they are quite capable (I don't work for them...). And I know my dealer here has one left, so if nothing works, please mail me privately... Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Nov 28 21:24:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MailingGoa@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:23:05 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: [virus list] - v1.57 - v1.58? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MailingGoa@aol.com Everyone, 11/28/98 I'm new here. First message yet. Yesterday, I updated to Version 1.57. Now I see, today, there is version 1.58? Is there a difference? The updated "manual" doesn't seem to state that there is, but then again, I could be missing something. Do let me know if there actually is some parameters or information changed? thanks, michael p.s. - site below is label I've recorded on. you can visit if you'd like, see me there all grim, and backclick to the main site of this label in the UK, even though I'm in the middle of a corn field in the United States....as we speak. http://www.bobnet.co.uk/koyote/artists/mg.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 00:42:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:35:31 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: New TekLab Mailing list - FSS list (for FS1R, etc) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan In the grand old tradition of TekLab support of the online music community, we have set up the FSS-list, dedicated to discussion relating to Formant Shaping Synthesis as used in Yamaha's new FS1R synthesizer. Full details about this list are available here: http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/fss-list.html And full details about Yamaha's new FS1R synth are available here: http://www.yamaha.co.uk/synth/html/current/tonemods/d_fs1r.htm If you're interested in discussing this new synth technique with other FS1R users, please subscribe and participate in this new forum! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 08:45:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:45:21 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: bob frye Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Ronald Pieket ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bob frye >>There is something odd about the FM on the Virus though, and all results seem to end up non-harmonic. A DX7 it is not. Having worked a bunch of years for Yamaha as a product specialist and then as a product manager, I'd have to certainly agree... the Virus' FM is nothing at all like the DX variety... and I sure wish the Virus' FM was more like the Nord FM. While I can use the FM on the Virus for that extra timbral "ummph" it really is much too non-linear for anything pitch-critical. From the time I've spent on the Nord (admittedly, not too much) it seemed to me that they're FM was more linear in that the fundamental pitch was constant, while the overtone structure was changed. Any thoughts? Bob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 01:48:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:41:31 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE fss-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Matt Gregory ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:32:50 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE fss-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Matt Gregory ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Sat Nov 28 16:32:48 1998 >Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) > by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA10648 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:32:47 -0800 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust156.tnt3.det3.da.uu.net [208.254.44.156]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29431 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:29:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <366094A7.1AD4702B@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:26:15 -0500 >From: Matt Gregory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: fss-list@teklab.com >Subject: Test >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Does anyone even own an FS1R yet? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 04:38:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:34:03 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Ronald Pieket ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:50:46 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Ronald Pieket ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Sat Nov 28 17:50:43 1998 >Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11339 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:50:43 -0800 Received: from best.com (dynamic13.pm05.sf3d.best.com [209.24.235.13]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with ESMTP id RAA28689 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:46:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3660A75E.793AB8B8@best.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:46:48 -0800 >From: Ronald Pieket >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from >["B. Hamiltoin" ] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >Actually, no. For FM to work for a harmonic musical voice (trumpet, violin, e-piano), the frequencies of the carrier and modulator must be harmonics of the played note. So for a middle A of 440Hz, the carrier or modulator can be 440Hz, 880Hz, 1320Hz, etc. >Of course nobody will stop you using non-harmonic frequencies. The result of that will be non-harmonic, too, unsuitable for melody - unless your name is Frank Zappa. > >There is something odd about the FM on the Virus though, and all results seem to end up non-harmonic. A DX7 it is not. > >- Ronald. > > >"K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: > >>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>At 2:07 AM +0100 on 28.11.1998 tek1 -- Jay Vaughan wrote: >>>>One of the classic FM sound effects is to sweep the pitch of Osc1 up or down. You might want to lower the volume because the amplitude can punch up due to the density of the waveform produced. >> >>So if I understand you correctly, this can be done using an LFO if it is fast enough, right? (I don't know much about FM, so I'm just trying to make sure). >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 07:56:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [152.163.213.214] From: "Landon Chappell" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!! Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:55:26 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Landon Chappell" Unsubscribe me from this list right now! Unsubscribe Unsubscribe Unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!!!!!!! AND FUCK OFF!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 10:03:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:59:09 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht -1. YOU CAN NOT READ -2. YOU JUST STUBBORNLY TRY AGAIN & AGAIN ON THE WRONG TRACK -3. WHAT IS MY FAULT SO I GET YOUR STUPID MESSAGES? -4. WHY DO YOU NOT READ THE FAQ? (see 1.) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 15:51:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MailingGoa@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:49:17 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [ACCESS] - Landonchappell? Michael Landon? Thought he was dead... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MailingGoa@aol.com In a message dated 11/29/98 1:01:22 AM Central Standard Time, landonchappell@hotmail.com writes: Michael Landon, from Little House on the Prarie, writes: >* From "Landon Chappell" > >Unsubscribe me from this list right now! Unsubscribe >Unsubscribe >Unsubscribe >UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!!!!!!! > >AND F*** OFF!! > * Guenther Albrecht responds: -1. YOU CAN NOT READ -2. YOU JUST STUBBORNLY TRY AGAIN & AGAIN ON THE WRONG TRACK -3. WHAT IS MY FAULT SO I GET YOUR STUPID MESSAGES? -4. WHY DO YOU NOT READ THE FAQ? (see 1.) Was Landonchappell@hotmail.com having problems updating his Virus or did he fry the OS? I must have come in quite late here. Michael p.s. - I'm liking the list. Love the synth, too:) It beats the HELL out of my Novation Supernova, which kind of sucks, as I was expecting SO much more out of that rather expensive blue box of rocks. I think it's the factory presets that are bugging me with the Supernova. They really are quite uneventful. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Nov 29 16:37:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: presets Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:40:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From MailingGoa@aol.com > >p.s. - I'm liking the list. Love the synth, too:) It beats the HELL out of >my Novation Supernova, which kind of sucks, as I was expecting SO much more >out of that rather expensive blue box of rocks. I think it's the factory presets that are bugging me with the Supernova. They really are quite uneventful. Well, I wasn't going to mention it, but I find very little useful sounds in the presets of the Virus too...BUT!!! that doesn't mean it is a bad machine, in fact it's a superb machine. It just needs tweaking... For example, there are a few moogbass presets (and I find this in almost all synths!) and to my ears they sound NOTHING at all like a moogbass. Maybe I'm just searching for other sounds, most of the basses sound thin, but the Virus is capable of rich, full sounding basses like old Tangerine Dream or (even better) Node...I think most of the presets are made for the techno- minded people (such a shame...). But then again, it's what the Virus is all about, finding and making the sounds YOU like... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl Still waiting anxiously for the rackmount!!!!!!!!!!!!! No word, can someone please help me with this (CK?). I need it before March (I know it's just almost December, but deliverings are slow...). I wouldn't even mind paying double the price for it, I need to have it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 19:29:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mz_mail@pop.gmx.de Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:25:19 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: OSC 1-Shape Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther Hello out there! Maybe you remember me asking you if someone noticed the change in sound since system 1.56. I found out what the problem is: take the factory-preset A127 (--START--) for example. Turn the Shape-poti and listen: there's always some kind of pulse wave in the background. It seems as if I could just fade between saw-wave and pulse-wave by turning the knob from full-left to full-right. And even then I can still hear the pulse wave. I would like to ask you to have a try at your own virus. Do you have the same problem? Or maybe a virus got into mine (just like Canine told us some time ago) and is messing up some transistors in the DSP... And while I'm speaking up: does anyone of you know "Wolkenreise" (Voyage on clouds) by Eroc? Great tune. He didn't have a virus in the 70's, though ;) Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 00:18:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:17:17 +0100 To: landonchappell@hotmail.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: how to unsubscribe from the list Cc: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Dear Landon Chappell, To unsubscribe from the list you can go to http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ and follow the instructions written there. This URL is always put on the end of each mail on the list, which someone of this list would have gladly told you if you just asked. And of course, if that doesn't help, you can always contact the master of the mailinglist. As with all mailinglists you can't subscribe from the list by saying unsubscribe or UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject-header or in the message body. And please mind your language. It's not very polite, and very annoying to members of the list. More information about this can be found at the 'netiquette', a very old standard on the internet about how to work with all aspects on the internet. Discussion groups and mailinglists is one of them: http://www.fau.edu/netiquette/net/dis.html Sincerly, Dimitri. At 22:55 28-11-98 PST, you wrote: >* From "Landon Chappell" > >Unsubscribe me from this list right now! Unsubscribe >Unsubscribe >Unsubscribe >UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!!!!!!! > >AND FUCK OFF!! > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 00:33:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:33:06 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: supernova Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda >p.s. - I'm liking the list. Love the synth, too:) It beats the HELL out of my Novation Supernova, which kind of sucks, as I was expecting SO much more out of that rather expensive blue box of rocks. I think it's the factory presets that are bugging me with the Supernova. They really are quite uneventful. Aha! That's good to hear! I once intended to buy that one in stead of the Virus, because it had keys, a mic, a sequencer (right?) But the Virus appealed more to me. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 01:24:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["B. Hamiltoin" ] Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:23:51 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Canine wrote... >>>One of the classic FM sound effects is to sweep the pitch of Osc1 up or down. You might want to lower the volume because the amplitude can punch up due to the density of the waveform produced. > >So if I understand you correctly, this can be done using an LFO if it is fast enough, right? Well you could just set a high FM amount on the Virus and sweep OSC1 with LFO1 slowly - the FM is with Osc1 + 2. In fact if you also set LEFO1 to modulate the filter gain a little you can automatically avoid the volume issue, although you will give up the saturation effect (run the resulting sound through another virus patch perhaps?). The Virus LFOs are very fast but do not go into the audible range the way a Pulse does (I got a loan of one last night, whew!). By the way, I installed 1.58 last night with Cakewalk, playing out at 75 bpm to channel 1 on port 1 - no problems at all, and the new chord arpeggiator and working external input sound fantastic! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 01:24:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Zipper noise on volume Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:23:52 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >It is also easy to produce an oscillator signal with a high DC-offset: Sync Osc2 to Osc1 >and set shape square. then turn down the semitone controller. I just tried this with some PW and filter modulation. Wow! Thanks! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 02:59:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:54:02 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: supernova Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >>p.s. - I'm liking the list. Love the synth, too:) It beats the HELL out of my Novation Supernova, which kind of sucks, as I was expecting SO much more out of that rather expensive blue box of rocks. I think it's the factory presets that are bugging me with the Supernova. They really are quite uneventful. >Aha! That's good to hear! I once intended to buy that one in stead of the Virus, because it had keys, a mic, a sequencer (right?) But the Virus appealed more to me. I think you're thinking of the QUASIMIDI Sirius, not the SuperNova... The SuperNova is a rack-mount blue synth, the QUASIMIDI Sirius has this funky looking mic sticking out of it, and is a keyboard. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 16:01:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:06:06 +0000 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ?? vocoder? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Yes, of course!!! Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Yes! Me! >And me! >And me too! >yEAH! mE TOO! >i WANT A VOCODER TOO! >I will auch ein vocoder! >Moi aussi, je voudrais bien un vocoder! Ik wil ook een vocoder! >Minja vromda vocoder abi. > >Dimitri. > >At 07:16 30-11-98 EST, you wrote: >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >> >>Hi, >> >>Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? >> >>Christoph >>access >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 08:10:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MailingGoa@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:08:36 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: supernova Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MailingGoa@aol.com In a message dated 11/29/98 5:44:19 PM Central Standard Time, di-mi@dds.nl writes: >Aha! That's good to hear! I once intended to buy that one in stead of the >Virus, because it had keys, a mic, a sequencer (right?) But the Virus appealed more to me. > >Dimitri. > Dimitri, In your reference to my Novation Supernova in comparison to the VIRUS, the Supernova is a 3 unit rack synth, and never has come with a keyboard or mic. The only synth I know of on the market with a mic, sequencer, and a keyboard is that Sirius Synthesizer by those people who do the Raven, Rave-o- lution,....Quasimidi, is it? That synth is supposed to be like those old Korg or Roland vocoders, I believe. Quasimidi...icky poo. michael ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 11:31:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:31:24 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: Re: FM Cc: db8@slip.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla >* From David Battenfield > >>>There is something odd about the FM on the Virus though, and all results seem >>>to end up non-harmonic. A DX7 it is not. >>> >I get harmonic sounds at the following FM settings on the VIRUS: 42(slight detune -down) >43(slight detune -up) >53 >64 >80 >96 >104 >112 >and 120 -: ) >It sounds pretty harmonic to me and the effect is awesome! Is it possible that other synths have different FM algorithims (more or less complex)?? >Cheers, >David >><><><><<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><<>< >david there are majoe diffences in teh way teh Virus and DX7 treat FM, the DX7 uses 32 fixed 6 op.(osc) sewtups to deliver different tyes of basic setups where the modulation and op-envelopes make up the end result. The Virus approaches it morelike a traditionl anlogue synthesizer/one vco mod. another or lfo mod or vib fx ect. Cheers Doug M. ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! FEATURING PRO-TOOLS 24 W/APOGEE AD8000 A/D/A I/O,DA-98 AND ADAT XT20(24CHANNEL SYSTEM) MACKIE D8B DIGITAL CONSOLE-GENELEC/KRK/YAMAHA/ MONITORS./ACOUTICS BY ASC CORPORATION. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 10:59:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net (Unverified) To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: FM Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:58:45 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield >>There is something odd about the FM on the Virus though, and all results seem to end up non-harmonic. A DX7 it is not. >> I get harmonic sounds at the following FM settings on the VIRUS: 42(slight detune -down) 43(slight detune -up) 53 64 80 96 104 112 and 120 -: ) It sounds pretty harmonic to me and the effect is awesome! Is it possible that other synths have different FM algorithims (more or less complex)?? Cheers, David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 13:23:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Oliver Szigan To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: ?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:22:32 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Szigan hi christoph, simple question, simple answer...: SURE! ;) cheers.. Oliver >-----Original Message----- >From: CKe9644719@aol.com [SMTP:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 1:16 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: ?? > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >Hi, > >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? > >Christoph >access >______________________________________________________________________ _____ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 13:26:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Carsten Hohmann" To: Subject: FeatureRequest: TriggerMode Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:23:21 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Carsten Hohmann" How about a Trigger-Mode for the Virus, which defines Sounds as Drumsounds and not to accept NoteLength? I think this would make the Virus much more useful for Drumsounds. At the moment there is the problem, that, if you use a drumpad, where you can`t define the Notelengths, there will get some hits 'lost' ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 13:35:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Carsten Hohmann" To: Subject: Re: ?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:26:00 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Carsten Hohmann" It would be great!!! ---------- >Von: CKe9644719@aol.com >An: access-list@teklab.com >Betreff: ?? >Datum: Montag, 30. November 1998 13:16 > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >Hi, > >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? > >Christoph >access > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 13:48:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: digix@pop.internal.mindspring.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:48:01 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: LFO Subject: Re: Vocoder? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From LFO At 07:16 AM 11/30/98 EST, you wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >Hi, > >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? > >Christoph >access Oooohhhh - do you need to ask?! YES!! :) LFO ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 14:14:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:12:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: ?? vocoder? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Yes! Me! And me! And me too! yEAH! mE TOO! i WANT A VOCODER TOO! I will auch ein vocoder! Moi aussi, je voudrais bien un vocoder! Ik wil ook een vocoder! Minja vromda vocoder abi. Dimitri. At 07:16 30-11-98 EST, you wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >Hi, > >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? > >Christoph >access >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 14:41:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:37:54 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: supernova Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, We've got a Sirius in our Studio and we intended to use it on-stage because of its vocoder. Well, don't buy it ! It doesn't sound good, the vocoder sounds terrible and the sounds don't have any dynamics in them ! Buy a Virus !!! Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 14:41:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:38:35 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoder in Virus ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck YESSSSSSS !!! A Vocoder in the Virus would be fantastic !!! Please give the vocoder as many bands as possible !!! Please !!!! Bye, Joeri >* From CKe9644719@aol.com >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 15:15:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Torsten Eichhorst" To: Subject: Re: Vocoder? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:54:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Torsten Eichhorst" >> >>Hi, >> >>Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? >> >>Christoph >>access > What a question..... YEEEESSSS Ciao Torsten ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 15:13:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Torsten Eichhorst" To: "Teklab" Subject: Knob Display Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:11:21 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi, i īve updated to OS 1.58. Now I have still one Bug. The knob display do not return to starting postion after turning the knobs. The sytem setting is set to short. Any ideas??? Ciao Torsten X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 15:54:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick@europa.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 06:52:15 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: ?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? > >Christoph >access Yes, please! That'd be amazing... -Marc Visnick ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 16:24:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:07:59 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: meet in new york Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Any virus users in new york want to meet for a coffee (or something else, it's just us germans, we always meet for coffee or something else...;) somewhere next week? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 15:04:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: CKe9644719@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:13:26 +0000 Subject: Re: ?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >Hi, > >Does anybody out there need a vocoder in the Virus? > >Christoph >access Yes Please Christoph. 1.60? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Nov 30 17:21:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:20:25 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ?? Vocoder ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness