X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 01:04:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:16:07 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus keyobaord update Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw I confirmed with the u.s distributor today that the virus keyboard will be in end of september in the U.S. , contact geoff/GSF regarding dealer allotment. weld Raymund Beyer wrote: >* From "Raymund Beyer" > >Hi list, > >I have just uploaded the sounds that are available from Canines page as single sounds + some new ones to my homepage at > >http://www.brainstorm-music.de > >I compiled them to 2 banks (186 sounds as Midi-file) in the .zip file and for those who how Sound Diver the same as libraries. > >Thanx to all you nice guys for the permission to do this. I think new Virus users will be glad to have a simple way of putting those lots of sounds into thier machine. > >Have a nice Easter ;-) > >Ray >----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de >http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 01:13:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:24:57 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Remix Project Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw what was this again??? please refresh my memory weld John Machielsen wrote: >* From John Machielsen > >i'm working on it. >i just reinstalled my computer and refurbished my home studio a bit, so now im back for some rocknroll. >i do so hope other people will work also on this project. its cool. > >-john-machielsen- > >Cam wrote: > >>* From Cam >> >>A few months ago Jay was saying that mail on the list was slowing down and suggested a community-oriented project for list members to take part in. I suggested a remix project and offered up one of my songs, "Strange and Dangerous," to be bastardized by the masses. I posted an .MP3 file of the song and a .zip file of the patches, midi file, drum loops, etc. to ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming so that people could download the files and remix my song. I don't know if the files are still there or not. >> >>Cam >> >>At 06:13 PM 8/31/99 +0430, you wrote: >>>* From dimi@dds.nl >>> >>> >>>HellO! >>>Eeehhhh, what kind of remix project do ypu mean? >>> >>>Dimitri. >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > >-- > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 01:49:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:41:28 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Use of the Access Virus Mailing list. (Was Re: Misunderstood Arpeggiator??) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 08:53 PM 8/20/99 -0700, you wrote: * From Cam >In Jeff's defense... he was not the first to swear. > >Moho And also in Jeff's defense... why not remove the people who insist on using the ACCESS VIRUS forum for petty, childish flame wars and gratuitous religious back-patting? Cam PS I thought Jay was administering this list.... I am, but I haven't been paying attention. Unfortunately. *All* TekLab Lists are free for everyone to use, as long as they follow this simple guideline: ** There is to be no direct public flaming of individuals on a TekLab list. ** I'll make it a bit more clear: Do *NOT FLAME A PERSON USING THE MAILING LIST!!!* That means: no calling each other names, no swearing, no rudeness. For anyone, directed at anyone else. And it certainly means that you are *not* supposed to use my resources to propagate any form of religious intolerance whatsoever - recent posts on the Access-list regarding Christians being "flat footed" are what I'm talking about specifically. This is *utterly* unacceptable behaviour for a member of a TekLab mailing list forum, and while I've let this one slip by because I wasn't paying attention to the list, I will be definitely unsubscribing someone the moment they bring this up, if ever again. If anyone sees this happening and I don't appear to be catching it, please mail me privately and I will see to it that the offender is removed. Weld, you do a good job of informing me of this on the access-list, sorry I let this whole thread slip by. Now, this doesn't mean I'm censoring you, or abusing your right to free speech. I'm giving you a public forum to express yourselves because I believe you each have something valuable to say. But the moment you start using my resources for flaming and personal character attacks, you deny the value of the list to everyone, and as one of the many "protectors" of these lists, I do not want this to happen. If you feel inclined to flame someone, or incite a religious war, or express your views towards someones choice of colored woolen socks, go right ahead, do it. Privately. Directly to the person involved. Send them an email, flame away. Everyone on this list has an email address, it can't be hidden, so if you're pissed off with someone, send the message directly to them instead of (cowardly) to the list. Have your little flame battles in private, by all means. Who knows, you might even work it out and become friends, or you could make a mortal Internet enemy. But do *not* do it on my public mailing lists. Ever. Try to remain on topic. There are plenty of things to chat about, we're a very valuable group of people on these lists, and given the wide variety and diversity of cultures involved, I'm sure there is a great deal of value to be derived from chatting with musicians around the world that are using the same tools to write music. And thats about enough of that from me. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 06:04:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: , Subject: Re: Use of the Access Virus Mailing list. Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:59:29 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Jay, people, David was given clear & polite explanations, but repeatedly posted shouted unthinking contradictions. Since you don't want me to flame David, I assume you will deal with postings such as his yourself? I accept that my flame was somewhat outrageous... And I have/ will ease off. If I can't defend my point of view to a reasonable extent, though, I won't be bothering to put it. If it's challenged in public, it has to be defendable in public. >And it certainly means that you are *not* supposed to use my resources to propagate any form of religious intolerance >whatsoever. I'm aware that it was slightly intolerant... and it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Excessive political correctness is not particularly desirable. >recent posts on the Access-list regarding Christians being "flat footed" are what I'm talking about specifically. Ahhh, perhaps you should read more carefully. Because that's not what I said. I've resolved things privately with Stephen, who complained to me. >This is *utterly* unacceptable behaviour for a member of a TekLab mailing list forum How would you like me to deal with David's posts? He clearly wasn't bothering to read what he was contradicting. Since it wasn't about the ideas, it was therefore personal. >But the moment you start using my resources for flaming and personal character attacks, you deny the value of the list to everyone, and as one of the many "protectors" of these lists, I do not want this to happen. As stated above, I have/ will ease off. >Try to remain on topic. There are plenty of things to chat about. Remarkably little gets said on this list... Price indications don't count, though they may be interesting background info for those buying & selling. Now arpeggiation was & is a topic of interest; and actually quite important. I'd like to talk about such without shouted contradictions. Your response is? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 10:16:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:44:10 -0700 To: "Thomas Whitmore" From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Use of the Access Virus Mailing list. Cc: music-bar@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 03:59 PM 9/1/99 +1200, you wrote: Hi Jay, people, David was given clear & polite explanations, but repeatedly posted shouted unthinking contradictions. Since you don't want me to flame David, I assume you will deal with postings such as his yourself? Well, there is *nothing* wrong with you emailing him privately and sorting it out... and then once you've sorted it out privately between the two of you, post the results of the private conversation to the list. That's the best way to handle it, for all involved. I accept that my flame was somewhat outrageous... And I have/ will ease off. Thanks, I respect that. If I can't defend my point of view to a reasonable extent, though, I won't be bothering to put it. If it's challenged in public, it has to be defendable in public. Not necessarily. If its challenged in public, then redressed in private, the results can be posted publicly once resolved. But a public bar-fight never really does anyone any good... >And it certainly means that you are *not* supposed to use my resources to propagate any form of religious intolerance >whatsoever. I'm aware that it was slightly intolerant... and it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Excessive political correctness is not particularly desirable. Keep in mind that these lists are very diverse. English language is not native to everyone on this list, and something being "taken seriously" really does depend on the English-language literacy level of the reader, not the writer... We have people from all over the world on these lists, with all sorts of political, language, and religious representation. I agree, excessive "political correctness" is a bear. But none of these lists (except for maybe music-bar) have "politics" in the topic for that very reason... >recent posts on the Access-list regarding Christians being "flat footed" are what I'm talking about specifically. Ahhh, perhaps you should read more carefully. Because that's not what I said. I've resolved things privately with Stephen, who complained to me. Very good. Then all it needed was a post to the list (which I see was done) that stated this, and that all parties involved have sorted it out... Exactly the way to sort things out. A perfect shining example of how to kill flame wars fast. >This is *utterly* unacceptable behaviour for a member of a TekLab mailing list forum How would you like me to deal with David's posts? He clearly wasn't bothering to read what he was contradicting. Since it wasn't about the ideas, it was therefore personal. Well, a private message to him to explain what you thought was wrong with what he was saying would have been the first thing I would have done if I were in your shoes. The 'intimacy' of a private response to a publicly posted message usually wakes people up out of their combative mode, I have found. Things usually resolve quicker when there is less public 'humiliation' or 'reaction' or 'saving of face' added to the mix ... >Try to remain on topic. There are plenty of things to chat about. Remarkably little gets said on this list... Price indications don't count, though they may be interesting background info for those buying & selling. That's true, the access-list is pretty quiet these days. This is an indication that Access has done a superlative job of handling technical support - usually whenever someone comes up with a bug or question, it gets handled pretty rapidly, and therefore the list has done its job. But there is nothing stopping you from starting a thread that you might find interesting, such as your own personal reflection on programming, some samples of your work, maybe your thoughts about the Virus in your own song production situation... Usually posts like this result in very fruitful threads. As do the occasional off-topic threads, which suprisingly enough usually come back to the topic at hand eventually, and the journey into Off-Topic land will usually have been worth it for most people involved. Now arpeggiation was & is a topic of interest; and actually quite important. I'd like to talk about such without shouted contradictions. Your response is? My response is that you should take the braver route, and when someone shouts contradictions to you, ask them to clarify it privately. You'll find there's less of a challenge, and usually things will just get sorted out quicker than if you'd engaged in a force/counter-force discussion on the list, in public... Tricky, eh? A skill worth developing, though... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 09:17:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:45:38 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:virus v2 rack WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Virus RackII? Why didn't they call it the Prion? :-) Well, i duno, i saw an advertisement of a rack version of the virus with 16 voice polyphony, is this the same? Dimitri. >* From "lauger" > >Does anyone know the time frame in which the "new" virus rack (the one with >the >features of the new virus keyboard) will appear in the United States? >Is the "new" virus rack a definate thing or just a rumor? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 09:20:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:49:40 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Remix Project WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Aha! This sounds very interesting! I'll listen to it as soon as it's available, what's the song's name? Maybe I can try to change and/or add some things too. Dimitri. >* From Cam > >A few months ago Jay was saying that mail on the list was slowing down and >suggested a community-oriented project for list members to take part in. I >suggested a remix project and offered up one of my songs, "Strange and >Dangerous," to be bastardized by the masses. I posted an .MP3 file of the >song and a .zip file of the patches, midi file, drum loops, etc. to >ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming so that people could download the files and >remix my song. I don't know if the files are still there or not. >Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 09:51:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:20:11 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: leds dont work right WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Im a little sad. My now 1,5 year-old virus doesn't work right anymore. The sound is still okay fortunately, but some leds don't work anymore: some lfo-wave leds, and some filter-leds (both lo pass and both band pass). So, if i have a double lo pass or band pass selecterd, its lokks like there's nofilter. First I hoped it was an OS bug (since I still didn't update to the last one) but if i press the metal, red case all not-working leds work again. The case also moves a little then. Does anyone have suggestions on what to do? Do nothing? Or is there a simple solution? Though It doesn't really appeal to me to open it, maybe I have to do that? (No warranty anymore anyway) Or maybe somebody of access knows what to do? Dimitri ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 14:40:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: still no button : ( Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:42:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness hi..... a couple of days ago i asked where to get a new button for the virus and someone told me that i would just have to contact tsi and ask for a new one but no response yet. anybody in this list who works for tsi ??? why do i get no response.....my virus looks so sad with the damaged button........ can someone help ? maybe christoph ?? regards mark VCP Postproduction GmbH Hausvogteiplatz 3-4 10117 Berlin X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 16:12:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: virus v2 rack Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:11:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 31.08.99 17:09:52 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Does anyone know the time frame in which the "new" virus rack (the one with >>the >>features of the new virus keyboard) will appear in the United States? Is the "new" virus rack a definate thing or just a rumor? >> > >It IS already released in the states. > > >BTW: If somebody has problems to find a Virus in is favorite store, give me a >mail with the name of the store, we'll send them information. > Great! I would guess that the problem is that many stores are failing to mention that they have the "new" Virus (is Virus B the official name?). Most stores simply list that they have the virus in stock but do not mention which model. I will have to call them and find out. Will both the original virus and the virus b be offered at the same time or will the virus b phase out sales of the original virus? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 16:42:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:34:57 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus v2 rack X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) dimi@dds.nl schrieb: >* From dimi@dds.nl > >Virus RackII? Why didn't they call it the Prion? :-) > >Well, i duno, i saw an advertisement of a rack version of the virus with 16 voice polyphony, is this the same? > >Dimitri. > >>* From "lauger" > >>Does anyone know the time frame in which the "new" virus >rack (the one with >>the >>features of the new virus keyboard) will appear in the >United States? >>Is the "new" virus rack a definate thing or just a rumor? > Hi ! This maschine is a definate thing and not a rumor.Some weeks ago we talked about the virus b. And that«s excactly the same. I played the virus b at music-city cologne.It offers the same features as the virus kb. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Aug 31 15:54:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: CKe9644719@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:52:05 +0000 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>* From Zack Steinkamp >> >>I'm probably a member of the majority of people who would like to have the option of un-quanitzed arpeggiation. If the situation arises that I want the arpeggiated sound to be on odd-32nd notes (i.e. if the patch had a significant attack time [~50]), I would like the option. >> >>Is it impossible to have a toggle for this? > >We could, but I don't want a spend a parameter for this. 16th note granularity is, from my opinion: > >1. usable in most musical situations >2. easy to play >3. allows polyrhythm >4. 32th note raster is rarely used >5. 32th note odd-beat is very difficult to hit reliable, especially in live situations. > >The keyboard player that is able to hit the 32th note odd-beat, does not need an arpeggiator, he might have more fun to play the arpeggio by hands. If you need the arp triggered this way, you can also record the arpeggio on a sequencer and delay the track by a 32th note. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access music I seem to remember,many moons ago, mentioning how difficult it is to get the arpeggiator to trigger accurately while playing live. I would be extemely pleased to see the triggering improved with 1/16thnote quantization and regard the benefits of this to far outweigh the loss of finer resolution triggering. Besides the workaround above should work fine and represents only a minimal bit of extra hassle. Steve. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 17:12:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:08:44 +0200 Subject: Multitrimbal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Hy List I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. BTW : Somebody got any idea when a new update will be out ! JAY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne représente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 17:18:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 18:14:28 +0300 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: leds dont work right Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen I had the same problem some months ago. A friend of mine opened my Virus and changed one of the flat cables. I'm Sorry I can't give you further information since it wasn't me who did the job. At 12:20 1.9.1999 +0430, you wrote: >* From dimi@dds.nl > > >Im a little sad. My now 1,5 year-old virus doesn't work right anymore. The sound is still okay fortunately, but some leds don't work anymore: some lfo-wave leds, and some filter-leds (both lo pass and both band pass). So, if i have a double lo pass or band pass selecterd, its lokks like there's nofilter. First I hoped it was an OS bug (since I still didn't update to the last one) but if i press the metal, red case all not-working leds work again. The case also moves a little then. Does anyone have suggestions on what to do? Do nothing? Or is there a simple solution? Though It doesn't really appeal to me to open it, maybe I have to do that? (No warranty anymore anyway) Or maybe somebody of access knows what to do? > >Dimitri > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 17:40:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: C J Silverio Subject: Re: Multitrimbal To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From C J Silverio Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com writes: | I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be | 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. Timbre = patch. Voice = sound-making-unit. Sometimes referred to as "polyphony". So the Virus can have 16 patches in memory at any time, but can only have 12 notes sounding at any time. The 12 notes can come from any combination of the 16 patches. Complex patches might use 2 or more voices for a single note. Twelves voices feels like a real luxury when you consider what real analog synths gave you. -- C J Silverio ceej@spies.com Black book: an online journal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 17:40:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:38:39 +0200 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Multitrimbal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Christian Hofmann On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:08:44 +0200 Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com wrote: >* From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com > > > >Hy List > >I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. It allows you to set up 16 different instruments (possibly for different parts of a song, i.e. not necessarily playing at the same time), without having to fiddle around with prog changes. cheers Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 17:51:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Multitrimbal Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:46:52 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" I suppose you can asign 16 different sounds to 16 midi channels. Though you can't play them all at a time you do not need programm changes to switch between them but can use different sequenzer tracks for each. Greets Stefan -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: An: Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 1999 17:08 Betreff: Multitrimbal * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Hy List I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. BTW : Somebody got any idea when a new update will be out ! JAY ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 17:51:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 08:49:14 -0700 From: be love X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Multitrimbal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From be love >I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. Equate it to this analogy ... you have an orchestra of 16 people, they have instruments that can make one or more sounds at a time (e.g. a flute and a piano) but the conductor won't let more than 12 sounds be played at any one time. barnaby ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 18:06:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:52:34 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Multitrimbal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:08 PM +0200 on 01.09.1999 Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com wrote: I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. BTW : Somebody got any idea when a new update will be out ! I just added this to the FAQ: Q- How can the Virus be 16-part multitimbral when it only has 12 voices? Does this make sense? A-oh yes, it does. The twelve voices are distributed dynamically between the 16 parts. A part can be active (usable from your sequencer) even though it is not playing. This allows you to alternate between two (or more sounds) or to change sounds without sending program changes etc. The Virus has one of the most sophisticated anti-note-stealing algorithms. Thus you may be using sounds from more programs than 12 and since the Virus only steals those notes that are inaudible, you will not notice that note stealing is taking place. This is where it truely makes sense to have more partsa than voices In something like a drumpattern you may be using more than 12 individual parts, but no more than 12 sound at the same time. So there is no reason to limit yourself to 12 possible programs, is there? ;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 18:23:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:20:21 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: leds dont work right Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:33 PM -0400 on 01.09.1999 PY@ wrote: * From "PY@" Hi, My name is Jim and I just subscribed to the list...I'm just getting started with a Virus 2.01 that I recently updated to 2.51 OS....I see that I now have banks C and D since I did the upgrade...My question is this...Since doing the upgrade, I have the same programs in banks C and D, as I have in banks A and B....Should the new update (first disc)which contained the new OS, have new programs that I should have seen in banks C and D, or did the new OS just give me the new banks in which to store my own programs ???..........Thanks....Jim Hi Jim and welcome to the show! Banks C and D are read only whereas you can overwrite the programs in A and B with your own programs. This means that you always have access to the factory ROM sounds and still get to have 256 places to store your own. But there is more: since the Virus responds to controllers via midi (every parameter can be controlled via midi) you can just send the Virus a program change to a sound in Bank C or D, then send the appropriate controllers to edit the sound to your likings. If you do this in the beginning of a song, you can then use the edited sound just like any other sound. Of course you can also store it, but only to banks A and B. hope this helps... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 18:14:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:33:14 -0400 From: "PY@" Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: leds dont work right Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "PY@" Hi, My name is Jim and I just subscribed to the list...I'm just getting started with a Virus 2.01 that I recently updated to 2.51 OS....I see that I now have banks C and D since I did the upgrade...My question is this...Since doing the upgrade, I have the same programs in banks C and D, as I have in banks A and B....Should the new update (first disc)which contained the new OS, have new programs that I should have seen in banks C and D, or did the new OS just give me the new banks in which to store my own programs ???..........Thanks....Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 19:16:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 19:15:34 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) BeSchue schrieb: >* From "BeSchue" > >When did you play it at music city? Strange.... because at TSI they«re not very generous with informations about the Virus b...... > >Bernhard > >-----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- >Von: Jens Wegerhoff An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Mittwoch, 1. September 1999 15:18 Betreff: Re: virus v2 rack > >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi ! > >This maschine is a definate thing and not a rumor.Some weeks ago we talked about the virus b. >And that«s excactly the same. I played the virus b at music-city cologne.It offers the same features as the >virus kb. Hi again ! This message goes to the list,because it«s maybe interesting for somebody else. I played the new virus b at the friday of popkomm weekend.The TSI homepage isn«t updated since a long time,so I think that«s the reason for no informations about the virus b.Even on the offical access hompage at access-music.de are no infos or something till now.But,one thing is clear: The virus b is real and you can buy it for 2835 DM at music-city cologne.Its user interface is identical to the virus kb(without kb and mod-wheels..sure). Bye Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 19:25:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:44:01 -0400 From: "PY@" Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: leds dont work right Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "PY@" K 9, Thanks for the welcome....I understand the ROM banks and the RAM banks. I guess for some reason I thought that the newer OS not only included the OS, but also 2 banks of NEW sounds.....I guess not .... I'll just have to fill the new banks with my own sounds !!...Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 17:57:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: Multitrimbal Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:02:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" Indeed you can«t play more than 12 voices at a time, of course, but you can set 16 different sounds to 16 midi channels without having to set program changes ever time. But it doesn«t make so much sense, after all, I agree. In a 64 voice Sampler (like my e64) it does make sense, of course, although even there I rarely use more than 8 out of 16... Greetings, Bernhard -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Mittwoch, 1. September 1999 15:41 Betreff: Multitrimbal * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Hy List I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. BTW : Somebody got any idea when a new update will be out ! JAY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne reprŽsente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous rŽserve de tout accord conclu par Žcrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, mme partielle, doit tre autorisŽe prŽalablement. Si vous n'tes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immŽdiatement l'expŽditeur. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 18:00:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: virus v2 rack Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:05:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" When did you play it at music city? Strange.... because at TSI they«re not very generous with informations about the Virus b...... Bernhard -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jens Wegerhoff An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Mittwoch, 1. September 1999 15:18 Betreff: Re: virus v2 rack * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi ! This maschine is a definate thing and not a rumor.Some weeks ago we talked about the virus b. And that«s excactly the same. I played the virus b at music-city cologne.It offers the same features as the virus kb. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 1 21:30:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:34:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" >The TSI homepage isn«t updated since a long time,so I think that«s the reason for no informations about the virus b.Even on the >offical access hompage at access-music.de are no infos or something till now. This is true, but comletely ununderstandable. Shouldn«t be a great deal to update a website, even for small companies. Seems more like strange "secret stuff" to me, maybe they don«t want the Virus 1 users to be pissed off to see that their synth has gone "second range gear"... By the way, the Access site promises since months a user sound area. What Clavia practices since a long time for the modular, seems to be a real problem for Access. I mean, they hardly do anything else but the Virus synth - that is 1(!) product... Mut maybe they already work hard on OS3 with fantastic features, never heard of by human ears - so I«d better shut up! Greetings, Bernhard P.S.: BTW, what was it about cross modulation? Is that something a virtual analogue could do??? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 02:19:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 18:21:58 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw I have some additional virus b pix from music messe i can email to anyone wanting them peace weld BeSchue wrote: >* From "BeSchue" > >>The TSI homepage isn«t updated since a long time,so I think that«s the >reason for no informations about the virus b.Even on the >>offical access hompage at access-music.de are no infos or something till >now. > >This is true, but comletely ununderstandable. Shouldn«t be a great deal to update a website, even for small companies. Seems more like strange "secret stuff" to me, maybe they don«t want the Virus 1 users to be pissed off to see that their synth has gone "second range gear"... > >By the way, the Access site promises since months a user sound area. What Clavia practices since a long time for the modular, seems to be a real problem for Access. I mean, they hardly do anything else but the Virus synth - that is 1(!) product... > >Mut maybe they already work hard on OS3 with fantastic features, never heard of by human ears - so I«d better shut up! > >Greetings, Bernhard > >P.S.: BTW, what was it about cross modulation? Is that something a virtual analogue could do??? > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 02:19:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 19:05:14 -0400 From: bigw To: Access List Subject: vius keyboard pix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Thx to Joeri .V for the extra pix by the way weld ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:05:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: dserrini@pop.mindspring.com Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:01:29 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Daniel Serrini Subject: Re: Multitrimbal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Daniel Serrini Hi Jason, The answer is simple if you think about it. The Virus is 12 note polyphonic, and is capable of hold 16 different "parts" or patches in a multitimbral set-up. No, the virus can not fire more than 12 single notes across 16 patches at one time; but can send a total of 12 notes at one time to any one of a total of 16 different assigned patches per muti set-up. In a nut shell, 12 note polyphonic (maximum number of simutanious voices at one time) per 16 patches in a muti set-up. The Virus could contain the ability to to hold say, 64 patches in its mutli set-up but only be 1 note monophonic as a hypothetical! Dan www.partikle.com "Don't forget to twist" At 05:08 PM 9/1/99 +0200, you wrote: >* From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com > > > >Hy List > >I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. > >BTW : Somebody got any idea when a new update will be out ! > >JAY > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. > >Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne reprŽsente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous rŽserve de tout accord conclu par Žcrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, mme partielle, doit tre autorisŽe prŽalablement. Si vous n'tes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immŽdiatement l'expŽditeur. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 10:19:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "a l i + +" To: Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:05:04 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "a l i + +" >* From bigw > >I have some additional virus b pix from music messe i can email to anyone wanting them >peace >weld WELD! upload them at ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming i think we all will be glad to see them! i'll be grateful, for one. ali ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:03:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: dserrini@pop.mindspring.com Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:07:27 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Daniel Serrini Subject: Re: Multitrimbal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Daniel Serrini Thanks for some more in sight Canine, I didn't realize that the voicing was dynamic on the virus, or that its takes the inaudible notes first, amazing! Dan www.partikle.com "Don't forget to twist" At 05:52 PM 9/1/99 +0200, you wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 5:08 PM +0200 on 01.09.1999 Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com wrote: >>I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. >> >>BTW : Somebody got any idea when a new update will be out ! > > > >I just added this to the FAQ: > > > >Q- How can the Virus be 16-part multitimbral when it only has 12 voices? Does this make sense? > >A-oh yes, it does. The twelve voices are distributed dynamically between the 16 parts. A part can be active (usable from your sequencer) even though it is not playing. This allows you to alternate between two (or more sounds) or to change sounds without sending program changes etc. > >The Virus has one of the most sophisticated anti-note-stealing algorithms. Thus you may be using sounds from more programs than 12 and since the Virus only steals those notes that are inaudible, you will not notice that note stealing is taking place. This is where it truely makes sense to have more partsa than voices > >In something like a drumpattern you may be using more than 12 individual parts, but no more than 12 sound at the same time. So there is no reason to limit yourself to 12 possible programs, is there? ;-) > > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:03:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:26:10 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: leds dont work right WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl That NOT what I want to hear! :-) I'm afraid so too.... Dimitri CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: >Dimi, sorry to say that, but the simplest answer is, to send it in for >repair. Obviously your Virus does not have a big problem, but some bad >contacts. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:03:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:41:47 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Multitrimbal WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Hi! That's no stupid quetion, it' a question of how you define '16x multitimral'. If you define it as responidng to 16 MIDI channels it's right. If you define it as responding to 16 MIDI channels at a time it's not. A review in the sound-on-sound of march 1988 talks about this too. But it's not really a problem anymore now the Viru B and KB are 16 voice. Dimitri Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com schreef: >* From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com> >Hy List >I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be >16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:03:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:41:56 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Multitrimbal WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Hi! That's no stupid quetion, it's a question of how you define '16x multitimral'. If you define it as responidng to 16 MIDI channels it's right. If you define it as responding to 16 MIDI channels at a time it's not. A review in the sound-on-sound of march 1988 talks about this too. But it's not really a problem anymore now the Viru B and KB are 16 voice. Dimitri Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com schreef: >* From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com> >Hy List >I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be >16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:03:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:56:08 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Multitrimbal WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Haha! That' a good one. Virtual Digital sound played by an Analog orchestra! How to simulate the characteristics of a digital system. Dimitri be love schreef: >Equate it to this analogy ... >you have an orchestra of 16 people, they have instruments that can make one or >more sounds at a time (e.g. a flute and a piano) but the conductor won't let >more than 12 sounds be played at any one time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 09:16:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 02 Sep 99 08:33:04 +0000 From: Anders WŒgberg Subject: unsubscribe To: Virus List Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?Q?Anders_W=E5gberg?= ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 19:56:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:19:57 +0200 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Christian Hofmann On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:34:44 -0000 "BeSchue" wrote: >* From "BeSchue" > >>The TSI homepage isn«t updated since a long time,so I think that«s the >reason for no informations about the virus b.Even on the >>offical access hompage at access-music.de are no infos or something till >now. > >This is true, but comletely ununderstandable. Shouldn«t be a great deal to update a website, even for small companies. Seems more like strange "secret stuff" to me, maybe they don«t want the Virus 1 users to be pissed off to see that their synth has gone "second range gear"... Or maybe the Virus B isn't in _full_ production yet, and they don't want people to be p'd off because they can't buy it easily if they want it? That would only be fair to refrain from any big scale promotion until they're ready. I have to admit, that would be a pretty unusual behaviour in this business ;-) Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:04:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Thomas Hendriksen To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:29:24 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Hendriksen Hi There list, I have a question to all you fellow analogue freaks on this list, I have some plans about using the vocoder for various tasks, one of them is to fire vocal samples throug it, but my main problem is that the vocalsample I have is messed up with drums, Hihats, Strings and shit like that.... so my question is... is it possible in some way or is there a smart technique to manipulate the sample and remove everything but the vocal ? is there any DSP effects around who can handle the job, and if so what are they? Cheers and light. /MrG! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 19:53:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:07:35 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" I'm looking into getting a new synth. Originally i wanted to get a Nord Rack 2 but its a bit outdated now. Today the decision is between the Novation Nova/Supernova and the Access Virus. It may be silly for me to put this question to a Virus list because you may be a little biased. I write mainly drum'n'bass stuff but i vary between all kinds of music, i happen to like anything which comes across 'dark' too. Its important for this synth to be capable of really really nasty stuff (imagine the most evil sounds possible as if from hell itself) and it's gotta be capapble of really heavy deep sub-bass (for the dnb aspect). Internet rumours tell me that this thing is great for nasty sounds but useless and thin sounding for bass (aparrently the Nova is the opposite). Jay assures me that it is great for bass too though (but i think jay has gone a bit crazy with lack of sleep -no offence jay). Also, one of my favourite producers (Optical) uses a virus which makes it even more tempting. So what do you guys *honestly* think? My kit list mainly includes (already): Yamaha A3000, Roland JV2080, Yamaha AN1X, Roland JX3P, Event Tria monitors. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, because this is a really expensive dilemna. Thanks Tom ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:20:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: buzzwords Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:21:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Hi list >P.S.: BTW, what was it about cross modulation? Is that something a virtual analogue could do??? "Cross-modulation" was just a word (Sequential Circuits?) once used for audio-frequency modulation. Forget the buzzwords, just turn up the FM knob on your Virus! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:03:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 09:54:05 -0400 From: "PY@" Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "PY@" To anyone who uses an Adat: If you remember correctly, when the Adats were first shown on the magazine pages and were supposed to come out in a month, the wait was actually closer to 9 mos.......I know, I had a deposit for 2 of these machines...Since we have allready had sightings of Virus B's around, I don't think we can complain too much....As far as being mad about the better mouse trap comming into play (Virus B) the old mouse trap has had a lot of refinements in OS's along the way....I just bought mine recently without the knowlege of the Virus B, and I'm still thrilled with it......Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:57:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 2 Sep 99 08:55:44 MDT From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Re: Multitrimbal] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Da Kid I have a question regarding that. Is a patch the multi-program or the single program? da "BeSchue" wrote: * From "BeSchue" Indeed you can´t play more than 12 voices at a time, of course, but you can set 16 different sounds to 16 midi channels without having to set program changes ever time. But it doesn´t make so much sense, after all, I agree. In a 64 voice Sampler (like my e64) it does make sense, of course, although even there I rarely use more than 8 out of 16... Greetings, Bernhard -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Mittwoch, 1. September 1999 15:41 Betreff: Multitrimbal * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Hy List I guess this is very stupid question, but how can the Virus be 16 x Multitrimbal and only have 12 voices at the same time. BTW : Somebody got any idea when a new update will be out ! JAY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 19:53:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:49:11 +0200 From: Thomas Kerschbaum X-Accept-Language: de-DE,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Kerschbaum unsubscribe -- Viele GrŸ§e Thomas Kerschbaum Intel Pentium 200Hz (no MMX) ASUS Board T2P4 ATX 64 MB RAM Millenium PCI 8MB Treiber 4.10.01.4120 (im netz unter 1677_412.zip geladen) Adaptec 2940 U2W IBM DDRS 34560 W SCSI 4 GB IBM DORS 32160 W SCSI 2 GB Fuijutsu M2954S 512 4GB SCSI Pioneer CD-Rom DR-U10X Phillips CD2600 CD-recorder Fritz card PCI Audiowerk 8 (Rev D, AW8M410000971100006D) (MME Treiber 3.1.7) Treiber VAW8D.vxd alles unknown MMDEVLDR.VDX von Microsoft 4.10.1998 Unitor 8 1.29 WIN98 4.10.1691 Direct X 6.0 LAW 4.0.2 SD 2.0.8 EX5 SY99 E III XP Morpheus Access Virus OS2.51 Alesis D4 with Simmons Drum-Pads Midiverb II Behringer Dualfex Digitar ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 00:34:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: djanssen@rug.be To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Access Virus b Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:42:01 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From djanssen@rug.be Hi, I have my "Access Virus b" since yesterday. where can I get a instrument-definition file for Cakewalk ? Is it the same as the non b version of the Access Virus ? Regards, Dries. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:35:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:31:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Gabe G To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gabe G Get the virus... I have both a supernova and a virus and the virus is definitely the "tek-step" monster of the two... the Supernova is better at the "lovely" sounds... if you were doing "intelligent" I'd say go with the Supernova. The virus has ample bottom end (although not as much as some of the real analogue synths IMHO). -Gabe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:36:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:33:19 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp purchasing the Virus makes the dilemma a bit less expensive ... but I can safely say that the Virus can make some *really* nasty sounds!!! last night I finished up making a sound that shook the trinkets off my monitors at relatively low volume. FM+Shaper Distortion+HPFilter+LPFilter+RingMod+PWM+Modwheel controlling several params makes for a crazy tone. Maybe I could upload it to teklab if I can figure out how to receive a SysEx dump in Cubase... anyhow, I think the thin-bass rumors are completely without merit. I've never used a supernova, but am *very* happy with my Virus (although the ads for the Supernova that I've seen have its LCD showing a 'Formant' parameter which would be neat to have on the Virus. Christoph?) -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:41:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:38:14 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp some mad EQ may do the trick another neat thing is the Noise Reduction plug-in for Sound Forge. You highlight the 'noise' in your recording (in your case, a drum, then a guitar, etc, etc.), the plugin figures out the noise sound profile, and removes that sound profile from the rest of the sample. You have to watch out though ... heavy use of the plugin can make the resulting sound resemble a crystal-cave sort of sound -- with spectral artifacts dancing around. But it may be worth a try (or try to find the a capella version of your recording). -zs >I have a question to all you fellow analogue freaks on this list, I have some plans about using the vocoder for various tasks, one of them is to fire vocal samples throug it, but my main problem is that the vocalsample I have is messed up with drums, Hihats, Strings and shit like that.... so my question is... is it possible in some way or is there a smart technique to manipulate the sample and remove everything but the vocal ? is there any DSP effects around who can handle the job, and if so what are they? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 20:51:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:46:51 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" Hello Tom, I think you should test both units. They have a similar user interface, both are virtual analogue -whatecver this means ;-)- but they sound completely different. Regards Stefan -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tom An: Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. September 1999 14:07 Betreff: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? * From "Tom" I'm looking into getting a new synth. Originally i wanted to get a Nord Rack 2 but its a bit outdated now. Today the decision is between the Novation Nova/Supernova and the Access Virus. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 21:40:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:59:01 -0400 From: "PY@" Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "PY@" Tom, I expected more from the Virus when it came to the low end bass..It's got decent bass, but not bass that hits you in the chest.It's a great synth with a ton of modulation power....You can come up with a lot of sounds with a little bit of work...If I were looking into a synth for drums and bass specifically, I think I would get on line with the rest and pic up a Future Retro 777....It's similar to a 303 but more versitile, and cheaper too !....Another punchy bass synth would be to go with a Waldorf Pulse Plus with the audio ins...It's got the bass you're looking for however it's a mono synth...You wouldn't do bad at all to stay with a Virus either...It's got to be one of the most versitile synths around, and it has the audio ins also....I'm sure that you will be able to come up with a bunch more sounds for anything that plugged into it, and even if you don't plug anything into it....You will be able to program a lot more on the Virus..Get a Virus and EQ the bass !!...You'll not regret it .....Good Luck ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 21:45:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:48:17 +0100 From: "S. W. Krupp" X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "S. W. Krupp" I write Black Metal with this machine... Music from hell that is. Krupp Tom wrote: >* From "Tom" > >I'm looking into getting a new synth. Originally i wanted to get a Nord Rack 2 but its a bit outdated now. >Today the decision is between the Novation Nova/Supernova and the Access Virus. >It may be silly for me to put this question to a Virus list because you may be a little biased. >I write mainly drum'n'bass stuff but i vary between all kinds of music, i happen to like anything which comes across 'dark' too. Its important for this synth to be capable of really really nasty stuff (imagine the most evil sounds possible as if from hell itself) and it's gotta be capapble of really heavy deep sub-bass (for the dnb aspect). > > >Any advice would be greatly appreciated, because this is a really expensive dilemna. > >Thanks > >Tom > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 2 23:12:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:07:08 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >Tom, >I expected more from the Virus when it came to the low end bass..It's got decent bass, but not bass that hits you in the chest. I think the virus' bass is great. I've got an all analogue VX-600 that thunders, but the virus gets really close. And don't forget you can do very need tricks in combination with the saturation and the 2nd filter! BTW, I was wondering... can one really hear a differentce between the 24bit sound of the virusB and the old 16 bit sound? Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 00:01:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 18:11:57 -0400 From: bigw To: janthony , Access List Subject: Re: virus b pix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Hi everyone do to overwelming response and k9 askinf : ) K9 will post the virus b pix to the his support page soon weld out janthony wrote: >hi. > >I really interested in getting a look at the virus b. I'd really appreciate you emailing me any pix / info you have. By the way do you know if there is any price difference between the original virus and the virus b. > >thank > >John Anthony ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:04:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:49:41 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hm, what's all this talk about no bass in the Virus? I have heard and made some earth shattering sounds with my virus in no time. just follow the standard procedures for a bass sound and it goes doooooowwwwwwnn. very deep. very sub. very dope. Oh, I think I am not supposed to say things like dope on this list, am I? anyway. I think the Virus sounds a *lot* more analog than the Nova. Check out a neat page about the Nova at http://www.muenster.de/~thuja/nova and if the design looks familiar, yes, it's a friend of mine and I have told her to just go ahead and rip my Virus pages apart for her Nova page...;) The Nova sounds much more digital. Very nasty too, but also very versatile. I like the Virus better, but what kind of answer would you suspect on the Virus list anyhow...;-) I am planning to do a comparison on different synths, virtual analogs that is, but I haven't started, so don't hold your breath...;) don't get the Nord Lead 2, if you are thinking along those lines, get the Nord Lead Keyboard (original) as it is *the* most beautiful modern synth there is. Or get the Nord Modular if you think you only want to buy one more synth...;-) enough ramblings here... later... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:04:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:51:50 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: [Re: Multitrimbal] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:55 AM -0600 on 02.09.1999 Da Kid wrote: Is a patch the multi-program or the single program? A Patch is a Single-Program. a Multi is a Multi-Program. A Part is a Patch (one of possible sixteen) in a Multi-Program. hope this helps think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:04:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:56:45 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: the teeth of a saw Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I realize the Virus has a saw wave that looks like this: /| / | / | / | / | anyhow, something like that. Something that I would call a rising saw. I have used another virtual analog on my computer, the softsynth Vibra 9000 and that has something that I would probably describe as a falling saw: |\ | \ | \ | \ | \ This sound was much more aggressive and nasty. Of course I would like to produce this sound with my virus. I am sure this is possible somehow and I am just missing the way to do it. Could someone enlighten me about this? Is this possible by inverting the wave? Is it impossible? thanks for all the help. (and yes, just because I run the site doesn't mean I know anything...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:04:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:59:33 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:49 PM -0400 on 02.09.1999 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: If you advertise a product very early, people say, why do they show a product, that is not available. If you advertise a product very late, they say, I wonder why they don't promote a product, that is already available. If you promote a product just in time, some people say, why didn't they advertise this earlier, I would have been waiting for the release for quite a long time. Don't worry about it christoph, I think you are doing a good job the way you are doing it. just get those Virus b picts taken and mail them to me first, so I can put them on my site before they are on access-music.de...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:04:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:02:36 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Access Virus b Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:42 PM +0200 on 02.09.1999 djanssen@rug.be wrote: I have my "Access Virus b" since yesterday. where can I get a instrument-definition file for Cakewalk ? Is it the same as the non b version of the Access Virus ? please try it out and tell me... but it should be. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:15:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:13:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.94 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Peter Hasek Unless you want a synth that's going to start fallin apart on you after 3 years, go with the Virus. Novation products are notoriously badly built. I love them though, great synths, I own a bassstation rack myself, but I swear the thing feels like its going to fall to pieces any second. Its the same w my friend's nova. The quality construction just isn't there. Access on the other hand knows how to build synths, but then again, germans tend to be the best at building good shit, take cars for instance. Not quite as many good british car co.'s as german ones, that's for sure. Peaceout Peter PS I am Canadian ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:44:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:42:19 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp try the TRI SYMMETRY item in one of the OSC menus... -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 01:48:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:45:59 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com NO BASS ON A VIRUS? who came up with this? my virus has made many a P.A affraid for there lives. there is much more to making bass sound right than just having the right synth though. the proper use of a compressor, proper eq'ing, gain setup, etc. there is a great article a few months back in future music about making good bass sounds. i can find out what issue it was if anyone is interested. cheers, matt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 02:20:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:18:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: future music article To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus hey hey i have many FM magazines there the best! hehe .. and i would love to know which issue that was.. maby i'll get off my lazy ass and order it hehe.. thanks -Cyngus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 02:27:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: RE: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus YES... get a virus.... and ... a supernova =) and a microwave xt... hehe... thad be a nice setup:> .....anyways i have no experience with the supernova so i cant say which is better.. but i do know they are differnt sounding synths.. and teh supernova is nothing to laugh at.... but i do have experience with the virus and love it... its very easy to work with and u can get amazing sounds out of it.. great for dnb if thats what your looking to creat... i have hear MANY dark step dnb tracks made with nothing more than a virus and drum samples.... i also have used my virus for jungle trax i have made.. but nothing dark.. and in response to the dood that talked about german cars... british cars are imho, much more classy then german cars... =) and german cars would be nothing today if it were not Hitlar and his army of slaves that built his cars during the war..... (no offense to any germans out there:P) -Cyngus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 02:46:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:42:12 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: website update Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi guys, it's been a while since I last announced a major update to my website but I have changed quite a bit. - Archive the archive of the mailing list is working, even though the files are a bit massive. - waves Some nice person (I forget who it is, please get in touch so I can give you credit) scanned all the waves from the Virus. I put this up as an HTML page and the entire thing as a .ZIP file for download. - fotos Weld sent me some more pictures of the Virus kb and I put them on my site. enjoy looking at them and the guy lucky enough to be playing them at the TSi booth at Musikmesse Frankfurt 1999. - Sysex Access just sent me a new sysex documentation. It's there for you to download and read if you are really really bored. Or you could just read a nice book. Or play music. Or program your virus. Or do any number of useful things, like looking out of the window.... Theeen there are some people who will imrpove their adaptations for programs like soundDiver, and they are not allowed to look out the window... they will have to work...;-) that's pretty much it. As always, please advise if there is anything that looks seems, smells, does wrong... alles gute. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 02:55:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:07:08 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw I agree programmed correctly the virus can get great bass sounds. perhaps the factory presets dont have the greats bass sounds, but rob pappen has done some great things!! if you must enhance the virus bass try the dbx subsonic generator. weld SUBREACT@aol.com wrote: >* From SUBREACT@aol.com > >NO BASS ON A VIRUS? > >who came up with this? my virus has made many a P.A affraid for there lives. there is much more to making bass sound right than just having the right synth though. the proper use of a compressor, proper eq'ing, gain setup, etc. there is a great article a few months back in future music about making good bass sounds. i can find out what issue it was if anyone is interested. > > >cheers, >matt >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 04:08:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 03:09:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >... is it possible in some way or is >there a smart technique to manipulate the sample and remove everything but the vocal ? An idea: "Karaoke" the source (I'm assuming it's stereo) and then mix in the *inverted* original. Anyone know of a Karaoke plug-in that can do this in one go? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 03:41:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:38:31 EDT Subject: Re: future music article To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com i have programmed some 808 patches, ltj bukem style sub dives, sine subs, and ms20 type jungle slides if anyone wants the patches. cheers, matt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 04:54:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:05:59 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: future music article Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw matt please send them to ray beyer who keeps the virus patch archive Raymund Beyer http://www.brainstorm-music.de/ weld SUBREACT@aol.com wrote: >* From SUBREACT@aol.com > >i have programmed some 808 patches, ltj bukem style sub dives, sine subs, and ms20 type jungle slides if anyone wants the patches. > >cheers, >matt >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 05:31:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:28:52 EDT Subject: Re: future music article To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com COOL... i didn't know that. 10-4 cheers, matt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 06:29:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:26:50 EDT Subject: Re: future music article To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ShawnClear@aol.com hi, << i have programmed some 808 patches, ltj bukem style sub dives, sine subs, and ms20 type jungle slides if anyone wants the patches. >> I would love the patches. I am sending this to the list because I think it would benefit if you would send them to Canine so that he can post them at his site [that is, if you have not already]. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 06:46:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:42:36 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Howard, >An idea: "Karaoke" the source (I'm assuming it's stereo) and then mix in the *inverted* original. You can get rid of the center 'channel' this way with Karaoke channel mixing... But it's mathematically impossible (via simple mixing) to leave just the centre channel. I worked through this some time ago. There's an expensive plugin/ program for Mac called Pandora, which claims to do this. Don't know how well it works. I've tried using spectral noise reduction; it's somewhat effective but makes lots of sonic artifacts, and is very much an effect. I would think that filtering (band pass) & EQ would be the way to go. You're not going to get rid of the instrumentation this way, but maybe it can be pushed down into the mix. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 07:28:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: stephens@pop.ricochet.net Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:25:50 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Ron Stephens Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ron Stephens If the saw you're talking about is on the main OSC's, then a rising saw, and a falling saw, believe it or not, have the exact same harmonic spectra, only in a different phase relationship. You may want to believe that you hear a difference, but the difference is not the rising/falling difference, but either a)the difference in filters, or b)the difference in OSC calculations, or c)the difference in modulation. That is why you will see only a rising OR a falling waveform on a high frequence oscillator. Only on LFO's (modulation sources) does it matter, where the modulation direction can be perceived does it matter. =ron= At 12:56 AM 09/03/1999 +0200, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I realize the Virus has a saw wave that looks like this: /| / | / | / | / | anyhow, something like that. Something that I would call a rising saw. I have used another virtual analog on my computer, the softsynth Vibra 9000 and that has something that I would probably describe as a falling saw: |\ | \ | \ | \ | \ This sound was much more aggressive and nasty. Of course I would like to produce this sound with my virus. I am sure this is possible somehow and I am just missing the way to do it. Could someone enlighten me about this? Is this possible by inverting the wave? Is it impossible? thanks for all the help. (and yes, just because I run the site doesn't mean I know anything...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 08:39:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:35:15 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com With all this talk and false information about the Virus and Supernova, I finally have to step in. (K.9 Kai Niggemann) writes: >>Hm, what's all this talk about no bass in the Virus? I have heard and made some earth shattering sounds with my virus in no time.<< My first virtual analog was the Virus. My first impression when I bought it was that it was kind of thin sounding. Since then, I have heard that many times from other people. Since I also have two Supernovas, a JP-8080 and Nord Modular, I can tell you that the over all sound of the Virus is more midrange to high pitched and somewhat nasal compared to the others. Yes you can do what sound like thumping punchy basses, but they don't have the heavy sound the Supernova has. It is kind of like the difference between hearing a bass sound played through speakers with a bass response of 65Hz compared to one with 20Hz. Of all of the above 4 synths the Supernova is king of basses. >>I think the Virus sounds a *lot* more analog than the Nova. The Nova sounds much more digital.<< Totally false. Of the above 4 synths the Supernova sounds the most analog. This again is the consensus among those who are famaliar with and have old analog synthesizers, and even stated in reviews of the Supernova. It is constantly being compared to the sounds of the Jupiter-8, Oberheim synths, early Roland stuff, Oscar, and in my case I am getting it to sound pretty close to a Moog modular. In fact he has it almost backwards. (Peter Hasek) writes: >>Unless you want a synth that's going to start fallin apart on you after 3 years, go with the Virus. Novation products are notoriously badly built.<< That is true of products like the bass station, not the Supernova. Even reviewers of the Supernova would mention the crappy build quality of earlier Novation products and the were glad that it wasn't the case with the Supernova. The knobs on the Supernova are very solid feeling, but on the Virus they are wobbly, as if they haven't been firmly mounted. The buttons on the Supernova are OK, but the Virus uses buttons like those on much older gear. If you haven't been into synths for long then you don't know how easily they can break. We broke 3 of those type buttons in 15 minutes on two Prophet 10s in a synth class I was in years ago. My original Emulator lasted two days before that type of button broke. Even Access has changed the buttons on the new synths. Could this be the reason? I am not saying I don't like the Virus. It has many nice programming features. I will not part with mine. Some may like its sound better. But it is thinner sounding, doesn't have as heavy a bass response, and is not as analog sounding as the Supernova. And it requires actually using the Supernova, and not just trying the lame factory patches to get a sense of it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 10:03:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Thomas Hendriksen To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:15:39 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Hendriksen Hi Thomas, I have tried to manipulate the sample with various DSP effects using soundforge, and I have allmost succesfully removed the stringsound, it's really low now. But when I try to do the same with the bassdrum sound it's also killing the vocal. Which frequency range is usually used for drums? they should be deep right? That Pandora plugin will it be made for PC's too ? Cheers /Thomas! >-----Original Message----- >From: Thomas Whitmore [SMTP:thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz] Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:43 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! > >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >Hi Howard, > >>An idea: "Karaoke" the source (I'm assuming it's stereo) and then mix in the *inverted* original. > >You can get rid of the center 'channel' this way with Karaoke channel mixing... But it's mathematically impossible (via simple mixing) to leave >just the centre channel. I worked through this some time ago. > >There's an expensive plugin/ program for Mac called Pandora, which claims to >do this. Don't know how well it works. > >I've tried using spectral noise reduction; it's somewhat effective but makes >lots of sonic artifacts, and is very much an effect. > >I would think that filtering (band pass) & EQ would be the way to go. You're >not going to get rid of the instrumentation this way, but maybe it can be >pushed down into the mix. > > >Cheers, >Thomas > >______________________________________________________________________ _____ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 09:25:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 03:22:52 -0400 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: i'm that fly white guy with the glass eye. X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "death?!?! to false metal" does anyone know if optical uses the virus for his sub-bass? if thats made with a virus, thats about all you can need. his bass is sweet. tom ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 09:59:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:27:55 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus v2 rack(virus b) WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Yeah, Christoph! No need to be annoyed, The only thing I ever wondered is why the Virus hasn't been built earlier! :-) Dimitri. K.9 Kai Niggemann schreef: >>If you advertise a product very early, people say, why do they show a >>product, that is not available. >>If you advertise a product very late, they say, I wonder why they don't >>promote a product, that is already available. If you promote a product just in time, some people say, why didn't they >>advertise this earlier, I would have been waiting for the release for quite a >>long time. >K9: >Don't worry about it christoph, I think you are doing a good job the >way you are doing it. >just get those Virus b picts taken and mail them to me first, so I >can put them on my site before they are on access-music.de...;-) >think different! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 10:11:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Envelope Generator" To: Subject: Virus waves Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:06:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Envelope Generator" Oh GOD! all my work on CANINE page :o)))) Look originals on http://envelope.underground.sk/vwaves/vwaves.htm peace E.G. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 11:44:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:54:20 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >does anyone know if optical uses the virus for his sub-bass? if thats made with a virus, thats about all you can need. his bass is sweet. Well, the rumour is the Virus label is named after .... bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 11:08:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:00:08 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:09 AM +0200 on 03.09.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: An idea: "Karaoke" the source (I'm assuming it's stereo) and then mix in the *inverted* original. Anyone know of a Karaoke plug-in that can do this in one go? yes, there is a VST plugin that does this, it's free too. Just go to www.logicuser.net (logicusers?) and follow the links to the free VST plugs. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 11:08:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:04:39 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:06 AM +0200 on 03.09.1999 Envelope Generator wrote: Oh GOD! all my work on CANINE page :o)))) Look originals on http://envelope.underground.sk/vwaves/vwaves.htm thanks a lot, and no it's not all of your work as I realized now, I missed wave 51. So folks, you are going to have to take a look at the above page to get the whole view...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 13:06:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:56:40 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>An idea: "Karaoke" the source (I'm assuming it's stereo) and then mix in the *inverted* original. >You can get rid of the center 'channel' this way with Karaoke channel mixing... But it's mathematically impossible (via simple mixing) to leave just the centre channel. I worked through this some time ago. I see no reason why it shouldn't work. No math required here, just plain logic - (I'm assuming the Karaoke-process leaves both channels non-inverted): Mix a Karaoke version 50-50 with the inverted original. This will cancel out the Karaoke version, leaving the centre of the original. Convert to mono, and Bob's your sample! Comments, anyone? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 13:06:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:05:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From Ron Stephens If the saw you're talking about is on the main OSC's, then a rising saw, and a falling saw, believe it or not, have the exact same harmonic spectra, only in a different phase relationship. You may want to believe that you hear a difference... I can imagine there being quite a difference in fast-attack bass-sounds. Think about it... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 13:20:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Thomas Hendriksen To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Plugins & other stuff Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:18:34 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Hendriksen Hi there guys, So on my quest to remove drums and other shit from a sample of mine, I stumbled over a very interesting homepage..... with a shitload of free plugins, helpfiles, forum.... ohh yes u name, and I guess I'm not the only one who could benefit from this page.... so take a look at it and see if you can make the page useful. I even managed to find that damn karaoke plugin :o) The page is : http://members.tripod.com/~mindstar_rising/main.htm Cheers, /Thomas! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 14:36:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:34:13 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: website update Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi Guys, There's a misunderstanding: the Virus Keyboard pictures are NOT made by me at all !!! they were at someone's site... but I don't seem to find that site anymore... Thx for the free link at Canine's site, but those really aren't my pictures... I just stored them on my harddisk after downloading and some days ago Jim Welch asked for them and I sent them to him... that's it actually. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 15:55:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:14:18 -0400 From: PUÄ Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Plugins & other stuff Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From PUÄ For anyone who has downloaded OS 2.51 Please list the names of the first 5 patches in bank "A", and the names of the first 5 patches in bank "B"....Thanks....Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 16:23:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:22:28 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Access Virus b X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) djanssen@rug.be schrieb: >* From djanssen@rug.be > >Hi, > >I have my "Access Virus b" since yesterday. where can I get a instrument-definition file for Cakewalk ? Is it the same as the non b version of the Access Virus ? > >Regards, > >Dries. > Hi ! For all Cakewalk users out there.I«m actually updating my last version of the INS.file If there is a difference in the controllernames and/or -numbers?...I don«t know that. But,when the Virus b comes with 2.51 , i can image the controllers and patches are identical to the "normal" Virus.Am I right ........??? When I«m ready with writing the new version of the INS file, I«ll send it to canine for putting it on his page. On Canine page is allready an INS for the Virus ,but without Bank C,D.Try this one with your Virus b. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 17:17:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [207.140.10.3] From: "Mark Child" To: Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:15:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Child" SN versus the Virus 1)How many outputs has the supernova then? 2)What about that dodgy plastic edge!! 3)Oh yeah and what about that classic 'Crappy' supermarket display. 4)I've gigged the hell out of my virus and never had any problems with knobs or buttons. 5)I have had P.A engineers telling me my little red module (Virus) is causing the room to shake, so there the answer to the sub bass question Give me my Virus any day. Mark M.T.K www.mindthinkkick.freeserve.co.uk Email:-Mindthinkkick@hotmail.com Track of the month:- Maxim 'My Web' Catch M.T.K live @Bucks Student Union On 'Freshers' week (27th Sept-2 Oct 1999) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 17:20:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 17:20:28 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Access Virus b X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 03.09.99 15:28:00 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>For all Cakewalk users out there.I«m actually updating my last version of the >>INS.file >>If there is a difference in the controllernames and/or -numbers?...I don«t know >>that. >>But,when the Virus b comes with 2.51 , i can image the controllers and patches >>are identical to >>the "normal" Virus.Am I right ........??? When I«m ready with writing the new version of the INS file, I«ll send it >to >>canine for putting it on his page. >>On Canine page is allready an INS for the Virus ,but without Bank C,D.Try this >>one with your Virus b. >> > >The parameters of the Virus b are fully compatible with Virus a. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper That«s what I want to hear.Thank you Christoph for this superfast reply. Stay Fresher Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 17:08:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:14:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: K.9 Kai Niggemann An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Donnerstag, 2. September 1999 23:51 Betreff: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? >don't get the Nord Lead 2, if you are thinking along those lines, get the Nord Lead Keyboard (original) as it is *the* most beautiful modern synth there is. A BIG Agreement - a real masterpiece of product design!!! Bernhard ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 19:27:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Bass to be basssss Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:22:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: CKe9644719@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 3 september 1999 17:37 Onderwerp: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? |* From CKe9644719@aol.com | |In einer eMail vom 03.09.99 07:48:50 MEZ, schreiben Sie: | |> |> With all this talk and false information about the Virus and Supernova, I |> finally have to step in. | |Wow, the master is back on stage. | |> |> (K.9 Kai Niggemann) writes: |> >>Hm, what's all this talk about no bass in the Virus? I have heard and |made |> |> some earth shattering sounds with my virus in no time.<< |> |> My first virtual analog was the Virus. My first impression when I bought |it |> |> was that it was kind of thin sounding. Since then, I have heard that many |> times from other people. Since I also have two Supernovas, a JP-8080 and |> Nord Modular, I can tell you that the over all sound of the Virus is more |> midrange to high pitched and somewhat nasal compared to the others. Yes |you |> |> can do what sound like thumping punchy basses, but they don't have the |heavy |> |> sound the Supernova has. It is kind of like the difference between |hearing |> a |> bass sound played through speakers with a bass response of 65Hz compared |to |> one with 20Hz. Of all of the above 4 synths the Supernova is king of |basses. | | |That's a great point. You agree with me that the *major* differences in |bass-abilities between those synths possibly is the simple over-all frequency |responce? Archivable by an equalizer or comparable to a simple 'loudness |button' of a home stereo amp? I guess it's time to create such a function for |the Virus. Doesn't this sound stupid to you as an ambitious user? |BTW: I assume that you checked all those synths while disabling the build-in |equalizers. Please advise. Yo, Christof is right. My opinion: The bass of the Virus is natural, (there is no bas exciters used in the Virus, as some other manufatures use).!! So maybe it is wise for Access to ad a extra parameter for the ones who miss this. BUT: before that use the Virus on big speakers (Studio or PA) and listen. Who is talking of no bass? While mixing the Virus needs less bass correction than my MiniMoog (which has to much low end). To much low end eats up all your energy in the mix!!!!! | | |> |> |> >>I think the Virus sounds a *lot* more analog than the Nova. The Nova |> sounds |> much more digital.<< |> |> Totally false. Of the above 4 synths the Supernova sounds the most |analog. |> |> This again is the consensus among those who are famaliar with and have old |> analog synthesizers, and even stated in reviews of the Supernova. It is |> constantly being compared to the sounds of the Jupiter-8, Oberheim synths, |> early Roland stuff, Oscar, and in my case I am getting it to sound pretty |> close to a Moog modular. In fact he has it almost backwards. | |You have outed yourself as an ignorant person. Since this is a direct answer |to Canines statement, you obviously ignore his possible knowledge and |experience about analog synth. No respect? Do you know him? Did you ask him? | |About reviews and consensus: Reviews that I know are clearly telling the |*exact* opposite of what you just mentioned. Sorry, those reviews are not |written in english language. |Probably these guys are less competent than you :) |And as you might have noticed, every user compares his favorite synth with |analogs that he knows. I don't remember any synth that the Virus was *not* |compared with. In your thread I miss something like "It has its special |sound" or so. hhhhmmmmm I do own a JP-8 (1982) MiniMoog, Prophet-600, Microwave (two) etc There is still a difference between analogue and virtual analogue. So I see them as different synthesizers with each its own character. I love also my Virus, and can't get enough of it...even found again new sounds that inspired me and made me say WOW...(I use synths for already 19 Years) AND, most of all, don't forget it is about music!!!! A good song even with bad synth's is beautifull. We are simply to spoiled today!! On two Korg MS-20 I made choirs (on the Nova album from 1982), people still do not believe untill today that I did that on these synths. (maybe a should place it on my homepage someday, so you guys can hear it). It is all in the head, Rob | |> |> (Peter Hasek) writes: |> >>Unless you want a synth that's going to start fallin apart on you after |3 |> years, go with the Virus. Novation products are notoriously badly built.<< |> |> That is true of products like the bass station, not the Supernova. Even |> reviewers of the Supernova would mention the crappy build quality of |earlier |> |> Novation products and the were glad that it wasn't the case with the |> Supernova. | |Have you ever joined the Supernova mailing list ?? | |> The knobs on the Supernova are very solid feeling, but on the |> Virus they are wobbly, as if they haven't been firmly mounted. The |buttons |> on the Supernova are OK, but the Virus uses buttons like those on much |older |> |> gear. If you haven't been into synths for long then you don't know how |> easily they can break. We broke 3 of those type buttons in 15 minutes on |> two |> Prophet 10s in a synth class I was in years ago. My original Emulator |> lasted |> two days before that type of button broke. Even Access has changed the |> buttons on the new synths. Could this be the reason? | |Should we change the Virus buttons, because you broke the buttons on a |Prophet and an Emulator? |Did you break the Virus buttons in a year?? | |This type of button are offered by several manufacturers in various quality |levels. The Virus buttons are best quality. But we changed the buttons for |the Virus b/kb, as well as the knob caps, for a new design. | | |- Let the truth be with you - | |Christoph |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! |**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** | | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 19:47:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:44:06 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com LMAO.... the burning hot flames of love..... Christoph, hell ya, tell em' what time it is. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 20:37:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:54:26 -0400 From: t* Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Bass to be basssss Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From t* Sounds to me like we need a "Synth Shootout" !!......Get a few synths together in the approx. the same price range, and set them all up, and may the best synth win....I would be willing to bet that every synth in the shootout would have something that the others didn't....I agree, if you play good music, it will sound like good music, not matter what synth you play it on...If your synth is bass shy, turn up the bass on your mixer/.amp .....Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 20:58:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:57:51 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > > > >You have outed yourself as an ignorant person. Since this is a direct answer to Canines statement, you obviously ignore his possible knowledge and experience about analog synth. No respect? Do you know him? Did you ask him? > >About reviews and consensus: Reviews that I know are clearly telling the *exact* opposite of what you just mentioned. Sorry, those reviews are not written in english language. >Probably these guys are less competent than you :) And as you might have noticed, every user compares his favorite synth with analogs that he knows. I don't remember any synth that the Virus was *not* compared with. In your thread I miss something like "It has its special sound" or so. > >> >>(Peter Hasek) writes: >>>>Unless you want a synth that's going to start fallin apart on you after >3 >>years, go with the Virus. Novation products are notoriously badly built.<< >> >>That is true of products like the bass station, not the Supernova. Even reviewers of the Supernova would mention the crappy build quality of >earlier >> >>Novation products and the were glad that it wasn't the case with the Supernova. > >Have you ever joined the Supernova mailing list ?? > >>The knobs on the Supernova are very solid feeling, but on the >>Virus they are wobbly, as if they haven't been firmly mounted. The >buttons >>on the Supernova are OK, but the Virus uses buttons like those on much >older >> >>gear. If you haven't been into synths for long then you don't know how easily they can break. We broke 3 of those type buttons in 15 minutes on two >>Prophet 10s in a synth class I was in years ago. My original Emulator lasted >>two days before that type of button broke. Even Access has changed the buttons on the new synths. Could this be the reason? > >Should we change the Virus buttons, because you broke the buttons on a Prophet and an Emulator? >Did you break the Virus buttons in a year?? > >This type of button are offered by several manufacturers in various quality levels. The Virus buttons are best quality. But we changed the buttons for the Virus b/kb, as well as the knob caps, for a new design. > >- Let the truth be with you - > >Christoph I use my Virus now for 1,5 years and I«d never problems with knobs and buttons.Maybe some people have a kind of "Wurstfinger" or something like that.I for myself noticed that the access list getting a bit nervous and strange.What«s the reason for that ? Is it a new hobby of some guys out there to p... somebody off? We«re all users of a fantastic sounding instrument called Access Virus.And we have the luck that even Company members like Christoph ,Joerg and Guido are part of this list.This is a great thing in my eyes.We don«t need a God or a Mr."I know everything better than you".Somebody know more an the other one less.Is this a reason to call him an idiot. This is my personal statement.When I p...... somebdy off , it was not my aim and I«m sorry for that. Get down ! Groove ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 20:58:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Hans Petter Andersen" To: Subject: Re: Bass to be basssss Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:58:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Hans Petter Andersen" It's all a question about taste and skills in the end... It's not depending on the synth, it's depending on the person who use it... You could also change the persons who play the synths each 15. minute for *very* different results... That's my opinion... :) Regards, Hans Petter Andersen. >* From t* > >Sounds to me like we need a "Synth Shootout" !!......Get a few synths together in the approx. the same price range, and set them all up, and may the best synth win....I would be willing to bet that every synth in the shootout would have something that the others didn't....I agree, if you play good music, it will sound like good music, not matter what synth you play it on...If your synth is bass shy, turn up the bass on your mixer/.amp .....Jim > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 21:09:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:06:34 EDT Subject: Re: future music article To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com the issue of FM i am refering to is june 1998. issue 70. it is called big bottom and has great tips on placing bass in a mix. also, i agree with rob 100%. i think the virus is a very natural sounding synth. if you need more punch or rumble, then by god give the eq knob a twist. if you have got crap EQ's like i do, go sniff around your local sound shop for a cheap parametric EQ. i got a tascam 8 channel p. eq for $140 from guitar center. it is from the early 80's and sounds dope. it looks like it came off noahs arc, but it is my secret weapon. don't tell anyone. =) a cheap compressor can be had for next to nothing. if you are serious about mixing, you will have 3-4 stereo compressors in your rack. you only have so much sonic space to work with and bass is a hoggy when it comes to giving stuff space to breath. i am going to arrange my sound set as soon as i get my virus back (loaned it out for a review, see keyboard next month). i just have to rename stuff then i will send it to k9. peace out cubscouts, m@ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 21:27:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:26:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: reply to bass patches To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus --- SUBREACT@aol.com wrote: >* From SUBREACT@aol.com > >i have programmed some 808 patches, ltj bukem style sub dives, sine subs, and >ms20 type jungle slides if anyone wants the patches. > >cheers, >matt sure i'd like to take a listen to em... i havent programed many bass sounds mostly leads and pads.... what format they in btw?.. .mid or .syx? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 22:09:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:06:40 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" There seems to have been an increase in the "Virus vs. ---------" posts in the past few months. IMHO, they contribute to a negative energy, and are not necessarily appropriate for a Virus List. I don't want to censor, but I think they are better suited for digital hell or the NGs... BTW: What about a third OSC as an expansion to the Sub? Is there enough juice. Also, tone controls may not be such a bad idea. I get good mileage out of the ones on my JP8K... and strange.What«s the reason for that ? Is it a new hobby of some guys out there to p... somebody off? We«re all users of a fantastic sounding instrument called Access Virus.And we have the luck that even Company members like Christoph ,Joerg and Guido are part of this list.This is a great thing in my eyes.We don«t need a God or a Mr."I know everything better than you".Somebody know more an the other one less.Is this a reason to call him an idiot. This is my personal statement.When I p...... somebdy off , it was not my aim and I«m sorry for that. Get down ! Groove ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 22:44:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:43:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Codling Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stephen Codling --- Rick Reyes wrote: >There seems to have been an increase in the "Virus vs. ---------" posts in >the past few months. IMHO, they contribute to a negative energy, and are not >necessarily appropriate for a Virus List. I don't want to censor, but I >think they are better suited for digital hell or the NGs... You may have a point here, but remember there are a lot of us lurking on here who don't have a virus quite yet, and with $$$ not flowing like water, it is important (for me at least) to get the opinions and comparisons of some of you out there who have real experience with these synths. Now don't everybody start writing 'listen to them yourselves and make a decision on what YOU like' please. I know that. However, playing for an hour or two in the store is not the same as some of you guys out there who have used these synths EXTENSIVELY. Also there are also some of us who, as stupid as this might sound to some of you, buy synths without ever playing them. For the last two years i lived in a remote community on the northwest coast of British Columbia Canada. Fly in/out type deal. I bought my microwaveXT without having actually played it, based on the comparisons and comments of people on the various lists i watch. So yes, i agree that the 'synth X sucks at doing X' has a negative tone to it. But if it's done more scientifically, then it can actually be very helpful. And if you really don't like these discussions, why not just highlight the titles and press delete? These certainly aren't OT discussion! steve. === }<>((*> PLAYING: http://www.clavia.se/pictures/leadmain.jpg LISTENING: http://www.awakeningrecords.com/ocvol.htm READING: http://www.marshmallowfluff.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 23:24:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 17:35:32 -0400 From: bigw To: Access List Subject: virus keybaord photos Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw heres the link to k9's page veyone enjoy weld http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/viruskbimages.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 07:07:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 01:04:34 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com CKe9644719@aol.com writes: >>You agree with me that the *major* differences in bass-abilities between those synths possibly is the simple over-all frequency responce? BTW: I assume that you checked all those synths while disabling the build-in equalizers. Please advise.<< It is not just bass frequency response but the tone of the overall machine. If the midrange is pushed up, it makes the sound less bass heavy. Digital synths can produce punchy bass sounds too, but the overall sound of the synth is thinner. That is the case with the Virus. (Compared with EQ off). After using my JP-8080 for a couple of months straight, when I went back to the Virus, my first thought was "yikes, it sounds more digital than I remember". >>You have outed yourself as an ignorant person. Since this is a direct answer to Canines statement, you obviously ignore his possible knowledge and experience about analog synth. No respect? Do you know him? Did you ask him?<< Based on what I think he said his approximate age was and, years involved with synths, and not having a room packed full of analog synths including a Supernova, I don't think he has the knowledge to say the Supernova sounds a *lot* more digital than the Virus. I have them right here next to me. Does he? In fact, he is the only person I have ever heard call the Supernova digital sounding. I am not the only person to notice the Virus has what would be a thinner sound. Many people notice and that is why this comes up once in a while. I am not the only one to notice that the Supernova can sound more analog either. When you insult me, you insult all others who are observant. Now, maybe there is a manufacturing problem and some Virus' sound thinner than others. I doubt it. >>Reviews that I know are clearly telling the *exact* opposite of what you just mentioned. Sorry, those reviews are not written in english language. Probably these guys are less competent than you :)<< I have no idea what your english language statement means. The reviews I am talking about are written by long time synth players in magazines such as SOS and Keyboard, etc. Not to mention a particular store owner who sells all of them, and others who are fussy about the sound of their synths. One who thought the Supernova was the only truely analog sounding VA synth. I could fill this page with quotes about how warm and analog the Supernova can sound. And they are from older more experienced people, not from those buying their first VA synth to make harsh and rank sounds like so many on this list. I have been buying and playing synths for about 20 years now, and listening to them for about 26. That's a lot longer than most on this list. I can hear the difference between the two. >>Have you ever joined the Supernova mailing list ??<< I am on Analogue Heaven and visit a couple Supernova private pages now and then. >>This type of button are offered by several manufacturers in various quality levels. The Virus buttons are best quality.<< I would hope they are better quality. I was just playing the same game the other guy was, attack the quality of one synth while ignoring the other. I think they are both fine, despite the wobbly knobs. (Mark Child) writes: >>1)How many outputs has the supernova then?<< Eight + headphone >>2)What about that dodgy plastic edge!!<< My Supernovas are made of metal. They have no dodgy plastic edge. >>3)Oh yeah and what about that classic 'Crappy' supermarket display.<< Blue LEDs were, at least not long ago, super expensive and hard to manufacture, which is why you usually only see red, green, amber and yellow. I don't see how it is crappy. >>5)I have had P.A engineers telling me my little red module (Virus) is causing the room to shake, so there the answer to the sub bass question. I could shake my room with JBL P.A. speakers that had a bad low end with my Multimoog. I can shake my room with my Virus. That still doesn't mean the bass is think and heavy sounding. I don't care which you like best, I am just correcting statements made about the two synths. When someone asked a question I answered. I thought that was what lists like this were for. (someone who actually has the synths he comments about) --Elhardt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 07:49:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 01:46:59 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com hold on a minute. dude back that truck up. 1. age means nothing. i have meet more 40 year old wankers that 20 year old. you can play synthesizers for 20 years and suck. look at edgar winter. 2. you don't need a roomful of gear to make good music. usually these wankers with everthing but the kitchen sink, write the lamest tracks. i have seen people with a pro one and a sampler light it up. 3. this is not the place for attitudes. we are all friends here. at the end of the day, we are all knob spinners. no matter what our favorite synth is. (long live the wasp) 4. the most analog sounding gear is analog gear. if you have to have a perfect 2600 patch, go buy a 2600. if you need a good virus sound, go buy a virus. the virus, supernova, Q, jp8000 all sound modelled to me. and they all sound good.. i personally liked the way the virus sounds, so i got one. i picked up a supernova to. it sounded good too. but i like the virus better, so i returned it. it is all taste brother. 5. christoph is the hardest working man in show buisness. period. cheers, matt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 09:04:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 03:01:40 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com SUBREACT@aol.com writes: >>if you need a good virus sound, go buy a virus. the virus, supernova, Q, jp8000 all sound modelled to me. and they all sound good.. i personally liked the way the virus sounds, so i got one. i picked up a supernova to. it sounded good too. but i like the virus better, so i returned it. it is all taste brother.<< I think they all sound good too. I even stated that some will like the sound of the Virus better. Some like the sound of digital synths better than analog also. However one synth will still sound more like an analog synth than another regardless of taste. That is simple comparison. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 10:06:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: King of synths and ..new sounds RP sounds you can expect in Oktober. Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:01:33 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" |* From SUBREACT@aol.com | |hold on a minute. |4. the most analog sounding gear is analog gear. if you have to have a |perfect 2600 patch, go buy a 2600. if you need a good virus sound, go buy a |virus. the virus, supernova, Q, jp8000 all sound modelled to me. and they all |sound good.. i personally liked the way the virus sounds, so i got one. i |picked up a supernova to. it sounded good too. but i like the virus better, |so i returned it. it is all taste brother. I agree. King of synths is still the MiniMoog. |5. christoph is the hardest working man in show buisness. period. I worked on new sounds, and was again exited about this red synth. The small beta demo-song in RA and MP3 (directly recorded from the Virus): www.robpapen.com/ramp3/rpvirusnew.rm (real audio) www.robpapen.com/ramp3/newrpvirus.mp3 (MP3) The release date is Oktober when I have finished the multies. More about it later.. :) Rob (an Access Virus lover) | |cheers, |matt |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! |**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** | | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 11:19:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:14:47 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hm, so since I don't own the synths I talk about (I just use them in a friend's studio), I guess I am not qualified to state my opinion that the Virus to me sounds more analog than the Nova and the Supernova. But let me put it this way, I think there is more to analog than just the pure sound. It's the feedback you get when manipulating a sound. I had a great talk offlist to Jose from Spain about this topic and I feel that the Virus gives me the most analog feedback. I don't have many analog synths, But I have used quite a few over the time that I have been involved in electronic music (and this has only been since 1988 and I pretty much turned away from electronics between 1989 and 1993). These inlcude much use of the the Moog Prodigy, an MS-20, a TB-303, an SH-101, a CS-15, a vintage russian (I actually put up a website for it years ago: http://www.waf80.de/polivoks) and several more which I only used on one or two occasions.. So I guess I do know something about analogs. Maybe only some things, but at least something. When I say more digital I don't mean to say that the nova or the supernova sound thinner. This isn't the eighties where digital synths sound lame and thin. Also I really like digital sounds and I really like the supers and the novas. And very obviously I am not the only person who has ever said this, because to me it seems there are others who agree. I am planning (and I told this to other people off list) to compare a few of the VA synths that I happen to work with here and there. And what else can I give to you but a subjective opinion? What else is it a reviewer gives in a mag?;) If I had written a review on the Virus and the Nova (like Future Music did, about a year between these reviews), I would have rated the Virus much higher than the Nova, since I think it's clearly a superior product. Does this make me ignorant just because you don't agree? No. This just shows how much subjective opnion goes into any review and any statement. So please don't start personal wars about synth-credibility etc. This is really getting a bit out of hand. increase the peace, please. that said, let#s go back to a very constructive discussion about what this synth does that another can't. Let's all be fair and don't be personally offended just because someone else doesn't like the synth you just bought. Also: don't question the brains of people who like a different style of sounds. And: define sounds. Use examples. Don't say "how do I make a bass sound?". Bass sounds can be anything from a Stakker Humanoid 303 to Moloko-type subbass that subtly and efficiently clean out your livingroom shelves... sorry this has gotten a bit long... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 13:10:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:08:09 +0200 (MEST) From: Benni Lampert To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: definable knobs X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001261624@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [212.184.149.116] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Benni Lampert hi there ! i assigned one of the dfinable knobs to the semitone parameter of osc1 when turning the knob only the actual value is shown, instead of initial AND actual value as it appears on any other parameter. why is that ?? does anybody know if its possible to see the initial value of a sound before changing it by turning the knob? thanx benni -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 15:26:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 09:44:58 -0400 From: t* Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: reply to bass patches Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From t* Matt, I would appreciate it if you could send me the Bass patches that you programmed. Thanks......Jim Bass Sounds: I've also noticed that after programming bass sounds to the best of my ability, that using the newer "unison" mode, and adding more voices to the bass sounds, ads quite a bit of umph to them.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 16:14:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 10:33:18 -0400 From: t* Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From t* Which synth sounds better??? Years ago I worked with an older gentleman and he was doing a procedure differently than the way I was taught.....I told him that he was doing it wrong....He told me that his procedure wasn't wrong, it was just "different" from the way I was taught.... He also told me that this was "my opinion"....and that you should always RESPECT someone elses opinion....You don't always have to agree with the other person, but RESPECT the other persons opinion.....He then blurted out a great line: Opinions are like ---holes, everybody's got one !!! If someone likes the bass, or pads, or anything else on a different synth, that's OK....The Virus is a great synth, and if it were the only synth on the market that you could buy, it would still be a great synth. But it's not, and that's why "Variety is the spice of life"... Listen for yourself, and learn from what you hear ....Enjoy....Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 23:11:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: Whats the URL for the access Virus website? Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:12:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 22:59:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 16:55:35 -0400 From: janthony X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus B, wherefore art thou virus b? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From janthony Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a virus b? I'm in Toronto (Canada) and I've emailed the North American distributor but they didn't respond - all the stores in Canada haven't even heard of it. I've even called the Guitar Centre in Central Dallas that someone mentioned earlier had it - and the guy in keyboards told me he didn't even know what a virus was. If anyone could let me know who has one I'd really appreciate it. Also I'm kind of curious is the price the same as the desktop or more, and if so how much? Thanks John Anthony ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 23:21:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 17:33:34 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus B, wherefore art thou virus b? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Id call geoff at gsf, remember its a holiday weekend in the states to find out what the dealer alotment on the first order was. remember the keyboard will not be in the states until end of september now one exceptional dealer down here is music central, contact john mike, his email response is slower than phone http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ also try nova musik a new store ive had great luck with so far http://www.novamusik.com/ cheers weld janthony wrote: >* From janthony > >Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a virus b? I'm in Toronto (Canada) and I've emailed the North American distributor but they didn't respond - all the stores in Canada haven't even heard of it. I've even called the Guitar Centre in Central Dallas that someone mentioned earlier had it - and the guy in keyboards told me he didn't even know what a virus was. If anyone could let me know who has one I'd really appreciate it. Also I'm kind of curious is the price the same as the desktop or more, and if so how much? > >Thanks > >John Anthony > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 23:28:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 17:39:41 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, Tom Subject: access page updated Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Everyone ....go to the access page at once! : ) NEW Virus B info, pix etc : ) http://www.access-music.de/ weld Tom wrote: >* From "Tom" > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 23:44:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 17:55:52 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: updated access site Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Go to the curious button on the new access site!!!! cool shit! weld Tom wrote: >* From "Tom" > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 00:08:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:06:42 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com cc: Tom Subject: Re: access page updated Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco Where? There's nothing in the products area, and the "news" section is missing... Moho On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, bigw wrote: >* From bigw > >Everyone ....go to the access page at once! : ) NEW Virus B info, pix etc : ) > >http://www.access-music.de/ > >weld > >Tom wrote: > >>* From "Tom" >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 00:29:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: Re: Whats the URL for the access Virus website? DOH... Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:27:52 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" spoke too soon. -----Original Message----- From: Tom To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 04 September 1999 22:30 Subject: Whats the URL for the access Virus website? >* From "Tom" > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 00:30:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:42:37 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, dob@kiva.net Subject: Re: access page updated Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw are u at k9's page or the access page?? the access pages have been completely updated http://www.access-music.de/pages/index2.html weld Moho Disco wrote: >* From Moho Disco > >Where? There's nothing in the products area, and the "news" section is missing... > >Moho > >On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, bigw wrote: > >>* From bigw >> >>Everyone ....go to the access page at once! : ) NEW Virus B info, pix etc : ) >> >>http://www.access-music.de/ >> >>weld >> >>Tom wrote: >> >>>* From "Tom" >>> >>>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 4 23:44:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: Whats the URL for the access Virus website? Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:50:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" http://www.access-music.de/index.html http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/ Greetings, Bernhard ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 03:10:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 21:07:16 EDT Subject: Re: Virus B, wherefore art thou virus b? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com guys, geoff will be back in the office on tuesday, but till be checking email possibley monday. so drop him a line at gsfa@netcom.com. and yes, novamusic is my favorite new dealer in north america. what a cool store!! we have also added a new dealer in chicago called midwest stereo. there are still on the process of setting up the account with geoff, but their staff is the who's who of chicago. they all know there stuff (i trained them). have a nice weekend everyone, m@ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 12:47:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 03:47:58 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Thomas Whitmore wrote: >>I can imagine there being quite a difference in fast-attack bass- sounds. >>Think about it... > >Yep, if the trigger phase is fixed; but normally the V's oscillators are free-running. No, no, no. It makes absolutely no difference. And free running oscillators are a completely separate issue. There is a thought-mistake being made here. The message that started this thread had a misleading ASCII picture. Something like: /| /| |\ |\ / | / | VS | \ | \ / | / | | \ | \ / |/ | | \| \ (Switch to fixed with font to view) When you look at this, it seems pretty obvious that the second one, would sound "snappier", because it has a transient at the beginning. Bzzt! Wrong! Both waves have exactly the same transients, but you can only see them if you make the drawing complete: /| /| |\ |\ / | / | VS | \ | \ | / | / \ | \ | |/ |/ \| \| Another way to think about it: swap the +/- wires on (both) your speakers. What you are hearing now is inverted sound. Can you hear any difference? Is your bass punchier? Mellower? Really, it makes no difference. "Think about it." - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 07:09:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 17:05:37 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi again, >I have allmost succesfully removed the stringsound That's good going. >Which frequency range is usually used for drums? they should be deep right? So filtering the kick out thins the vocal... Take your thin vocal, pitch-shift it down an octave and mix this sub-harmonic with the thin to beef it up again. Multi-tracking with EQ would be the easiest way to tune this mixture. >That Pandora plugin will it be made for PC's too ? Nope. Have fun, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 06:56:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 01:07:24 -0400 From: bigw To: Access List Subject: sweeping the speactral waves? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw ya know , i dont know if anyone has brought this up but is there any way ,christoph, in a future update we could sweep the spectral waves from lfo, or envelope............please : ) weld ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 08:08:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:03:45 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Howard, [re Karaoke -> just vocal] >I see no reason why it shouldn't work. No math required here, just plain logic - (I'm assuming the Karaoke-process leaves both channels non-inverted): The Karaoke process subtracts one channel from the other. The signals in the center, equally present on both channels, disappear. And the phase of one channel is inverted. In a stereo version, each channel has the opposite subtracted; giving an 'enhanced stereo' effect. >Mix a Karaoke version 50-50 with the inverted original. This will cancel out the Karaoke version, leaving the centre of the original. Convert to mono, and Bob's your sample! If only it were so simple. I did the math and proved that channel summing & subtraction techniques can eliminate the center, but not extract it. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 08:10:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:07:06 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Howard, >I can imagine there being quite a difference in fast-attack bass- sounds. >Think about it... Yep, if the trigger phase is fixed; but normally the V's oscillators are free-running. Free-running Oscs & LFOs make the Virus sound 'alive', different from a sampler. Of course you can modulate the Virus better too. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 08:14:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Zhang2323@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 02:11:57 EDT Subject: the VIRUS can be much more if... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zhang2323@aol.com It is not enough to have the wonderful timbral possibilities of the VIRUS... what is also needed is the user-friendly interface to create tunings/scales equal to the timbral range & power. I would really get an access VIRUS if (AND when) it has user-programmable tuning/scaling (so I could create scales beyond & outside the conventional, banal & limited 12 Tone Equal Tempered scale [for you Eurocentrics, 12 TET is not the ONLY scale in the bleedin' universe... for some selected examples of various scale systems & concepts see the Microtonal Synthesis webpage: http://home.att.net/~microtonal ]). For example, I dream of a VIRUS capable of having the capability to allow me to create & play truly "alien" scales based on fractal concepts using the VIRUS' convulsively beautiful timbres: There are many ways of constructing self-similar or quasi-fractal scales. One way is to approximate a Cantor Dust (see Benoit Mandelbrot) by iteratively dividing a given interval into 3 parts and skipping the middle one. For example, one can choose the octave (1200 cents) and divide it into 3 intervals as 0 400 800 1200. Next, one divides the two outside 400 cent intervals into 3 parts giving 0 133 266.7 400 cents and 800 933 1067 1200. The next iteration yields 0 44 89 133 267 311 355 400 and 800 844 889 933 1067 1111 1156 and 1200 cents. In more detail: cents decimal Approx. Ratio 0 1.0 1/1 44.44 1.0260 40/39 88.88 1.05269 20/19 133.33 1.0801 14/13 266.67 1.1665 7/6 311.11 1.1969 6/5 355.55 1.2280 27/2 400.0 1.2599 5/4 800.0 1.5874 8/5 844.44 1.6287 13/8 888.88 1.6710 5/3 933.33 1.7145 12/7 1066.67 1.8517 13/7 1111.11 1.8999 19/10 1155.55 1.9493 39/20 1200.0 2.0000 2/1 Another method is to choose an interval and iteratively apply some function whose value is always less than that of its argument (roots, logs, etc.). For example, one can select the 3/1 and take successive square roots. This action results in a scale with decreasing intervals which quickly become too small to hear. In the following example, I have stopped the process when the intervals became less than 2 cents and have added the "tonic." # Decimals Cents 1 1 0 2 1.002148 3.7147559 3 1.0043007 7.4295117 4 1.0086198 14.859023 5 1.017314 29.718047 6 1.0349278 59.436094 7 1.0710755 118.87219 8 1.1472027 237.74438 9 1.316074 475.48875 10 1.7320508 950.9775 11 3.0000 1901.955 Brian McLaren has composed with similar set of tones starting with the square root of 3 and cycling at that interval (as a pseudo-octave). Many other starting intervals are possible -- pi, e, phi, sqr(5), etc. The scale need not repeat at any interval of equivalence. One may also fill the larger gaps in self-similar scales by the same process as was used to generate the scale. In the case of the first scale, one might treat 400 cents as the interval of equivalence and fill in the 400 cent gap in the middle of the scale. Alternatively, one might continue the process one step further to get 0 14.81 29.63 44.44 88.89 103.7 118.5 133.33 and use this last interval (1/9 octave) as the I. of E., optionally ignoring the 2/1. >>>>Kornerup's Golden Meantone Tuning: Constructing the tuning is easy. Consider the pentatonic scale. The minor third and major second are, as we know, in the golden ratio, and two minor thirds plus three major second complete the octave. So we have the equations: t=s*g (where g is the golden ratio, (sqrt(5)+1)/2) 2*t+3*s=1200 solving the second equation for t t=600-1.5*s and plugging in to the first 600-1.5*s=s*g (now use g=1.618034) 600=s*3.118034 s=192.4289 So the perfect fifth is (1200+192.4289)/2 = 696.2145 cents. The whole tuning is constructed by chaining this fifth over and over again. For example, the 19 tones centered around D would be D 0 D# 73.5013 Eb 118.9276 E 192.4289 E# 265.9303 F 311.3566 F# 384.8579 Gb 430.2842 G 503.7855 G# 577.2868 Ab 622.7132 A 696.2145 A# 769.7158 Bb 815.1421 B 888.6434 Cb 934.0697 C 1007.5711 C# 1081.0724 Db 1126.4987 (D 1200) So I will sit & watch for further access VIRUS developments... for now... If not access, maybe some other company will see this idea as necessary & a good strategy (think of the educational applications & the potential of a synthesizer that could be a creative catalyst in almost practically ANY music culture in the world!... or "outside" of it) zHANg ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 10:22:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 10:23:18 +0200 From: mango X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From mango I agree to that too, the instrument would be sooooooo powerful then... Zhang2323@aol.com wrote: >* From Zhang2323@aol.com > >It is not enough to have the wonderful timbral possibilities of the VIRUS... what is also needed is the user-friendly interface to create tunings/scales equal to the timbral range & power. > >I would really get an access VIRUS if (AND when) it has user-programmable tuning/scaling (so I could create scales beyond & outside the conventional, banal & limited 12 Tone Equal Tempered scale [for you Eurocentrics, 12 TET is not the ONLY scale in the bleedin' universe... >for some selected examples of various scale systems & concepts see the Microtonal Synthesis webpage: http://home.att.net/~microtonal ]). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 10:51:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mikael Hansson" To: Subject: Re: sweeping the speactral waves? Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:50:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mikael Hansson" >* From bigw > >ya know , i dont know if anyone has brought this up but is there any way ,christoph, in a future update we could sweep the spectral waves from lfo, or envelope............please : ) > >weld It«s already possible. Just set destination in the modmatrix to Osc1WavSel or Osc2WavSel and make sure you have Shape set to the "waveside". /Micke ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 11:24:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:24:19 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From Zhang2323@aol.com > > >It is not enough to have the wonderful timbral possibilities of the VIRUS... what is also needed is the user-friendly interface to create tunings/scales equal to the timbral range & power. that would be a real revolution! thats why i have my doubts this will happen :[ lets face it: access have built a beautiful digital imitation of a vintage analog synth. thats a nostalgic project, not a revolutionary one. i really love the idea though. hm. maybe there could be some kind of a software solution of this? i m thinking of some kind of tuning utility/sequencer that would output combined note on/off and pitchbend events. would that work? of coures it would be more elegant, if a synth was capable of assigning pitches different than the "usual" to the note numbers... does anyone know if this is possible to program with more open systems like the native instruments software? has anybody tried something like this? mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 12:07:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 12:09:06 +0200 From: mango X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From mango I wouldn't like a fridge on the Virus, it would be too small.. Now an oscilloscope feature in the LCD *that* would be ***cool*** Hehehe BeSchue wrote: >* From "BeSchue" > >I would looooove to see an onboard refrigerator on the Virus C. I«d really get another one then. With a fridge it would be soooooooooooooooooh powerful! >Bernhard > >P.S.: BTW, you certainly know that you can adjust the "Oscillator keyfollow" parameter, don«t you? > >-----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- >Von: mango >An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Sonntag, 5. September 1999 09:02 >Betreff: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... > >>* From mango >> >>I agree to that too, the instrument would be sooooooo powerful then... > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 12:56:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 5 Sep 1999 12:52:54 +0200 From: "snifFA" To: "Virus Mailing-List" X-Authenticated-Sender: marco.scherer@main-rheiner.de Subject: OT: noise-reduction plug-in Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "snifFA" in one of the last mails a noise-reduction plug-in for soundforge was mentioned. where can I get it and is it free? thanks in advance, marco ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 11:26:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:32:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" I would looooove to see an onboard refrigerator on the Virus C. I«d really get another one then. With a fridge it would be soooooooooooooooooh powerful! Bernhard P.S.: BTW, you certainly know that you can adjust the "Oscillator keyfollow" parameter, don«t you? -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: mango An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Sonntag, 5. September 1999 09:02 Betreff: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... >* From mango > >I agree to that too, the instrument would be sooooooo powerful then... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 22:20:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 11:53:07 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Nu feejur. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Tuning tables? (not practical) Waveform interpolation? (limited use, unless you also allow user to select wave table ordering, which is not practical) Inverted saw wave? (makes no difference) Why did nobody mention the most obvious sonic improvement, and that is a third oscillator? If the Virus has enough horsepower to implement a vocoder, is a simple third oscillator not feasible? Even if we'd had to trade some polyphony when this feature is used, I think the improved richness would be worth it. Think Minimoog. Think Supernova. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 14:10:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 08:21:51 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw OOOOhh No!! the dreaded fridge virus is back!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh : ) back to sunday morning kraftwerk and the NY times : ) weld mango wrote: >* From mango > >I wouldn't like a fridge on the Virus, it would be too small.. Now an oscilloscope feature in the LCD *that* would be ***cool*** Hehehe > >BeSchue wrote: > >>* From "BeSchue" >> >>I would looooove to see an onboard refrigerator on the Virus C. I«d really get another one then. With a fridge it would be soooooooooooooooooh powerful! >>Bernhard >> >>P.S.: BTW, you certainly know that you can adjust the "Oscillator keyfollow" parameter, don«t you? >> >>-----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- >>Von: mango >>An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Sonntag, 5. September 1999 09:02 >>Betreff: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... >> >>>* From mango >>> >>>I agree to that too, the instrument would be sooooooo powerful then... >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 14:15:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 08:27:04 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: sweeping the speactral waves? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw yes... but if it could be done more smoothly and you could select which waveforms (kinda like wavesequencing), this would be the bomb and could take the Vi to the next level. weld Mikael Hansson wrote: >* From "Mikael Hansson" > >>* From bigw >> >>ya know , i dont know if anyone has brought this up but is there any way ,christoph, in a future update we could sweep the spectral waves from lfo, or envelope............please : ) >> >>weld > >It«s already possible. Just set destination in the modmatrix to Osc1WavSel or Osc2WavSel and make sure you have Shape set to the "waveside". > >/Micke > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 14:35:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:30:09 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:24 AM +0200 on 05.09.1999 michael wolf wrote: does anyone know if this is possible to program with more open systems like the native instruments software? has anybody tried something like this? The concept of sending combined note/pitch shift data could be realized with MAX by Opcode and to some extent even using Logic Audio's environment. There are certainly people doing it with MAX, so maybe you'd like to join the appropriate mailing list. I think because of the adaptive control smoothing, the Virus would be a great machine for microtunings using pitchbend data. I would love to hear someone do it. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 17:36:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 11:48:20 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw also, i believe k9 mentioned that opcode max is perfect for this type of stuff weld CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 05.09.99 07:31:24 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>It is not enough to have the wonderful timbral possibilities of the VIRUS... what is also needed is the user-friendly interface to create tunings/scales equal to the timbral range & power. >> >>I would really get an access VIRUS if (AND when) it has user-programmable tuning/scaling (so I could create scales beyond & outside the conventional, banal & limited 12 Tone Equal Tempered scale [for you Eurocentrics, 12 TET is not the ONLY scale in the bleedin' universe... >>for some selected examples of various scale systems & concepts see the Microtonal Synthesis webpage: http://home.att.net/~microtonal >]). > >A user interface for scale tunings will never be realised in the Virus. No memory space to keep a number of tuning settings. But it is possible to implement the midi-standard 'single-note-tuning' and 'scale-octave-tuning' into the Virus. The settings can be done by Midi, for example by a special modul for sound diver or so (that doesn't exist yet, I guess). Please don't expect more than that from a small company like ours. You should put some energy in this topic yourself, so that e.g. such an application or module will be created. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:22:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 16:28:30 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket michael wolf wrote: >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >>A user interface for scale tunings will never be realised in the Virus. No memory space to keep a number of tuning settings. But it is possible to implement the midi-standard 'single-note-tuning' and 'scale-octave-tuning' into the Virus. > >the what? never heard of it. sounds interesting. what exactly would this do? how would it work? Presumably, this uses pitch bend to fine adjust the frequency of every individual note. Sounds like a great idea, until you realize that pitch bend applies to all notes in a midi channel simultaneously. In other words, it will only work on monophonic melodies, not on harmonies. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 00:12:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:50:11 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >A user interface for scale tunings will never be realised in the Virus. No memory space to keep a number of tuning settings. But it is possible to implement the midi-standard 'single-note-tuning' and 'scale-octave-tuning' into the Virus. the what? never heard of it. sounds interesting. what exactly would this do? how would it work? mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:13:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 16:58:33 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Bass to be basssss Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Here's another tuppence on bass programming. In my experience, the secret to bass sound programming is not "how big can I pump up the lowest frequencies", or "how deep does this synth go". I find that, in order to make bass deep and hard, you need a good overall frequency spectrum, and phase relations, not just low ones. My first synth was a Yamaha CS-5. The weediest, thinnest sounding synth ever to be built. No bass of any consequence. Until I built a 'soft distortion' circuit, that is. Sending a bass sound through such a circuit gave the bass bull's balls. And when you know what a distortion does, you realize that it adds extra harmonics. That is, it adds higher frequencies, not lower ones. On the other hand, I'm not into "dance music" (and don't get me started - enough already with the resonance!) so my experience may not be applicable to your taste. My best bass efforts as of late rely on layering a Virus bass sound with a down-transposed brass patch from my CZ-101, pumpded through a BBE 462 sonic maximizer. Real thunder. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Aug 31 19:04:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: virus v2 rack Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 12:01:32 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" Guitar Center Central Dallas already has one (or more). My buddy Chad has had a chance to check it out. Apparently they have added dedicated part buttons to the beastie... BTW: I believe it is called the Virus B Rick >* From "lauger" > >Hello all. > >Does anyone know the time frame in which the "new" virus rack (the one with the >features of the new virus keyboard) will appear in the United States? > >Is the "new" virus rack a definate thing or just a rumor? > >Thanks. > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 19:13:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 13:24:35 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw great ideas berhard!!! one of my ideas is the the old page b concept form the oberhiem, ob-8 etc. rather than surfing through the menus for something that doesnt have a knob assignment, how about a simple page b for the front panel. you say access this by a simple combo button press and the front panel would have a second profile per se????? even better yet these could be user asignable or preset/ weld BeSchue wrote: >* From "BeSchue" > >Well, as we are at features to be realised in future Virus OS versions - I think that different voice assign modes would be helpful: > >Rotate - reassign - and also the ability to assign a maximum of x (out of 12) voices to a specific sound. > >Most helpful seems to me the reassign" mode (like in the classic Oberheims): A sound is always played by the same voice. Maybe the problem of unstable Bass drum sounds in multimode would be resolved. >Some time ago I posted this here: When playing back other sounds at the same time, the attack and the whole sound of the Bass Drum changes considerably. > >According to TSI this is because at each Bass Drum note all parameters must be completely calculated again, as voices are distributed in a "rotate" mode. > >Greetings, Bernhard > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 19:31:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 13:49:16 -0400 From: PUÄ Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From PUÄ After checking out the new specs on the Virus kb, and the Virus b, I noticed that the keyboard version has 16 voices and the rack still has 12..any ideas as to why they wouldn't have the same amount of voices ? Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 21:25:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:14:36 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw I beleive they both 16 voices, the specs on the page are for the virus-a rack. weld PU€ wrote: >* From PU€ > >After checking out the new specs on the Virus kb, and the Virus b, I noticed that the keyboard version has 16 voices and the rack still has 12..any ideas as to why they wouldn't have the same amount of voices ? >Jim >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 18:30:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:35:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" Well, as we are at features to be realised in future Virus OS versions - I think that different voice assign modes would be helpful: Rotate - reassign - and also the ability to assign a maximum of x (out of 12) voices to a specific sound. Most helpful seems to me the reassign" mode (like in the classic Oberheims): A sound is always played by the same voice. Maybe the problem of unstable Bass drum sounds in multimode would be resolved. Some time ago I posted this here: When playing back other sounds at the same time, the attack and the whole sound of the Bass Drum changes considerably. According to TSI this is because at each Bass Drum note all parameters must be completely calculated again, as voices are distributed in a "rotate" mode. Greetings, Bernhard ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 23:25:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 15:29:25 -0400 From: bigw To: Access List Subject: virus b rack polyphony Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw from the access page: virus b short new feature list the new virus b has got the same features as the virus kb keyboard except the 61-keys and the keyboard controllers. some of the new features (compared to the previous virus desktop) - faster dsp-chip (16 voices) - new buttons (fx / 2 part buttons) - new led-assignments in lfo section - new button functions in the filter section ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 5 22:20:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:15:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" No the Virus B rack will have 16 voices - otherwise it wouldn«t make any sense, would it? -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: PU€ An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Sonntag, 5. September 1999 18:01 Betreff: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... * From PU€ After checking out the new specs on the Virus kb, and the Virus b, I noticed that the keyboard version has 16 voices and the rack still has 12..any ideas as to why they wouldn't have the same amount of voices ? Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:25:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 16:41:32 -0400 From: PUÄ Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus b rack polyphony Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From PUÄ Thanks for the 12 vs 16 voice answer on the new rack...I guess I read it wrong....Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:58:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:47:24 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Thomas Whitmore wrote: >Assuming trigger-phase is set : >One attacks with a ramp, has transient later One attacks with a *transient*, then ramps No, BOTH attack with a transient, and then a ramp. Let me make the drawing even clearer: + * + |\ |\ /| /| 0 ________| \ | \ VS 0 ________ / | / | \ | \ | | / | / - \| \| - |/ |/ * ^ ^ ^ ^ Silence Transient Silence Transient So one attacks with a transient, and has a ramp later The other ALSO attacks with a transient, and has a ramp later *BOTH* attack with a transient, and have a ramp later >Attack with a transient will probably sound harder :-) No, *BOTH* sound equally hard, because both start with a transient. >The difference is an inversion in time, not in amplitude. Both operations result in exactly the same waveform. Draw it on a piece of paper (don't forget the zero line) and try it. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:24:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 22:09:04 +0100 Subject: unsubscribe From: "Roger King" To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Roger King" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:24:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:55:01 +0200 From: Kay Piepenbrink Organization: UniBw-Hamburg X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness unsubscibe Kay Piepenbrink Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Kay.Piepenbrink.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Kay Piepenbrink Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Kay.Piepenbrink.vcf" Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:Kay.Piepenbrink.vcf (TEXT/ttxt) (0000BAB7)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 01:13:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:56:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" The Karaoke process subtracts one channel from the other. Downloaded some audio files demonstrating a Karaoke program, and noticed the terrible problems in the results. Tried "my" idea out in spite of this and...failed miserably to extract the voice. Looks like a more complex job than I thought. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:24:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 15:18:08 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: sweeping the speactral waves? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Sweeping the Virus spectral waves is not really funny, because this is a set of arbitrary selected waves. It's not a set of real wavetables. A smooth sweep will require high calculation expences, and - manpower to program it; this is not an easy task. But honestly, is it a quantum leap to sweep a sort of random wavetable smoothly? Ciao Christoph Why not? I mean, we won't know until we hear it, and its very possible that the sound of it will be quite unique, and musically inspiring... especially if you can select a 'range' of sweep to apply to the wave collection. Crazy things like this are what gave us the unique sounding modular synthesizers of the 70's and 80's - I'm sure there are some good examples of some synth freak deciding to 'just see what it sounds like to patch this into this and modulate this', resulting in something we *all* take for granted these days. Maybe, for now, the waves don't need to be calculated for smooth transitions as I think you are stating, but I myself have often found that sweeping the WAVE SEL knob while playing back an arpeggiated pattern has resulted in a musically appealing sound. I'd love to be able to control this from an LFO, especially with the ENV MODE and KEY TRIGGER abilities. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:23:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 15:19:55 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: virus b rack polyphony Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 03:29 PM 9/5/99 -0400, you wrote: * From bigw some of the new features (compared to the previous virus desktop) - faster dsp-chip (16 voices) - new buttons (fx / 2 part buttons) - new led-assignments in lfo section - new button functions in the filter section What're the changes in the filter section that required new button functions? Are there different filter combinations available on the Virus B now? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 01:13:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:29:11 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: can the V do this ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen recently a friend of mine got a Juno 106. That thing can bend from one tone to another. I'll give a clear example. You press a C1, then a D4, and the Juno bends the sound from the first to the second. I haven't got enough experience with my Virus yet to figure out how to work it out, if it's possible at all. But i think there are enough people here who do, if they know what i mean. haha, greetings / john machielsen -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:23:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "cybie" To: Subject: RE: OT: new ideas thread Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:47:02 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "cybie" Well software wise what native instruments is doing is pretty good. [Generator/Reaktor/Transformer] If they only had a custom expandable DSP box with knobs. Sort of like a Nord Modular. Speaking of Roland crap, Korg came out with some very neat boxes. The Electribes. At first they may seem like cheezy roland mc303/505 units but they are very good and very usable. The ER-1 is a 808/909 style drum machine with 4 programmable sounds and some samples. The EA-1 is a 101/202/303 style 2 part synth. Both units have audio inputs and internal sequencers. All they need is a nice ES-1. Like a simple 16 or 32 note sampler with simple filters that comes with the same internal sequencer like the other units. AND it would kick ass if it had a compact flash card (not Smart Media like Roland uses on some gear) port on it. So you can buy a 16/32/64/128mb card and a $50 reader for your pc and just dump .wav files to it. It would make life so much better if companies started putting USB or compact flash card ports on their gear to load/xfer/dump data like samples. Maybe Access could come out with something like this. Yamaha's RM1x is a great sequencer for live use if you want to use it to drive external gear. Being able to import midi sequences thru the floppy and chop them up into patterns is just what I was looking for. just some input me ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:24:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: new ideas thread Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:50:15 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" Right, this would be fine! Specially if it«s user assignable! User assignable things are the best anyway. One day some experienced users should come up with a REALLY useful synth concept and find themselves a company which builds the Synth behind it. The frustrating thing is that tecnically a lot of things are already possible - but nobody does them! Specially big companies like Roland tend to do less and less interesting stuff. They were the greatest in the 80ies - now they only build shit!!! And - by the way - I don«t say all this because the Virus is not user friendly or not a good synth: It certainly IS a good instrument and does have many intelligent features, but it«s not perfect. of course... Bernhard -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: bigw An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Sonntag, 5. September 1999 17:44 Betreff: new ideas thread >* From bigw > >great ideas berhard!!! >one of my ideas is the the old page b concept form the oberhiem, ob-8 etc. rather than surfing through the menus for something that doesnt have a knob assignment, how about a simple page b for the front panel. you say access this >by a simple combo button press and the front panel would have a second profile >per se????? even better yet these could be user asignable or preset/ weld > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 13:02:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:12:29 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Cam wrote: >I think this has been mentioned before, but it sounded cool so I'll mention it again: how about a patch crossfade/morph feature? On the JP8000, this is how you program velocity. You define the knob settings for the minimum and maximum velocities, and the machine interpolates between these settings. Same with the ribbon controller. Very cool. Of course, only settings which have a continuous value (as opposed to on/off, or selector switches) can be interpolated, so you cannot interpolate between any arbitrarily chosen patches. I presume the Polymorph does something similar, I guess that's how it got its name. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:23:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 19:15:49 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: can the V do this ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw john are you talking about glide or portamento??? of notes weld John Machielsen wrote: >* From John Machielsen > >recently a friend of mine got a Juno 106. That thing can bend from one tone to another. I'll give a clear example. >You press a C1, then a D4, and the Juno bends the sound from the first to the second. >I haven't got enough experience with my Virus yet to figure out how to work it out, >if it's possible at all. >But i think there are enough people here who do, if they know what i mean. > >haha, > >greetings / john machielsen > >-- > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:22:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 01:25:37 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, >Well software wise what native instruments is doing is pretty good. [Generator/Reaktor/Transformer] >If they only had a custom expandable DSP box with knobs. Sort of like a Nord Modular. I fully agree !!!!!! This would be fantastic !!! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com List-admin Logic-users/ Sounddiver-users/ Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 04:56:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:02:35 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw hhhhummmm, so many maufacturers have tried though, and gone by the wayside, i fact i think there only one american company manufacturing synths now and thats studio electronics, hits such a funky business to be in! i think weve been very luck with access, they have seemed to add everything the list has asked for except for step sequencer. weve gotten the mod matrix, rin mod, the vocoder, etc. im happy with access and nord coming out with cool products to use for years to come! weld p.s. if it matters id love to see the third osc someone brought up earlier, to certain extent the sub osc can help, bu is as you know more limited BeSchue wrote: >* From "BeSchue" > >Right, this would be fine! Specially if it«s user assignable! User assignable things are the best anyway. One day some experienced users should come up with a REALLY useful synth concept and find themselves a company which builds the Synth behind it. >The frustrating thing is that tecnically a lot of things are already possible - but nobody does them! >Specially big companies like Roland tend to do less and less interesting stuff. They were the greatest in the 80ies - now they only build shit!!! > >And - by the way - I don«t say all this because the Virus is not user friendly or not a good synth: It certainly IS a good instrument and does have many intelligent features, but it«s not perfect. of course... > >Bernhard > >-----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- >Von: bigw >An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Sonntag, 5. September 1999 17:44 >Betreff: new ideas thread > >>* From bigw >> >>great ideas berhard!!! >>one of my ideas is the the old page b concept form the oberhiem, ob-8 etc. rather than surfing through the menus for something that doesnt have a knob assignment, how about a simple page b for the front panel. you say access >this >>by a simple combo button press and the front panel would have a second >profile >>per se????? even better yet these could be user asignable or preset/ weld >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:59:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:11:15 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (K.9 Kai Niggemann) writes: >>Hm, so since I don't own the synths I talk about (I just use them in a friend's studio), I guess I am not qualified to state my opinion that the Virus to me sounds more analog than the Nova and the Supernova.<< It was not that you said you thought the Virus sounds more analog, but that you said the Supernova sounds a *lot* more digital. I had to call you on that one. No one VA synth sounds a lot more digital. Even digital synths may not sound a lot more digital anymore. >>I think there is more to analog than just the pure sound. It's the feedback you get when manipulating a sound.<< *This is where the problem comes in.* Since the thread was discussing only the *sound* of the Virus and Supernova (bass and thinness), that is all I was concerned with. Maybe it is more satisfying tweaking the Virus knobs, but another person listening to the sound isn't concerned with that. Since a fuller/thicker sound with more bass (compared to digital) is how people characterize analog sound, then the Supernova delivers better than the Virus in this area. In addition, crank up the mixer OSC levels and the filter distortion and you get a warmth for bass sounds (another analog trait) you don't get on the Virus. This is why those who own/play Memory Moogs, Jupiter-8s, OB-Xs, are the ones who seem to gravitate more to the Supernova. Most consider the Moog modular to be the pinnacle of analog sound. The Supernova can get you closer to that sound. And that is *not* a digital sound. The Virus may have a better sounding filter. And at least a couple of people from the past on this list thought the thinner sound was an asset, as it allowed more tracks to be laid down without becoming muddy. So the Virus sound will appeal to those where these things are more important. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:59:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: Re: can the V do this ? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus hey, welp i am not sure that i can help u on your question... yet... but i intend of getting a juno-106 EVEN THOUGH the virus can do what it can and then some... its still a classic synth and has a unique sound... so when i get it i'll check out that bend your talking about and let u know if the viri can do that..... unless someone here already knows=) -Cyngus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:58:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:05:23 EDT Subject: Re: I need a deciding vote.... shall i? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 9/5/99 6:24:12 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Elhardt@aol.com writes: >Most consider the Moog modular to be the pinnacle of analog sound. The >Supernova can get you closer to that sound. And that is *not* a digital sound. The funny thing here is after having a Virus and a Supernova in my studio along with my Moog modular, the synths that sounded the most like my Moog (or *could* sound closest to my Moog after some careful tweaking) are the Nord Modular and my Quasimidi Polymorph. The Supernova could sound very much like a Minimoog, but not the big monolith. The Virus and Supernova are both great synthesizers, but if you are looking to emulate the pinnacle of analog, then you might look elsewhere (like above). BUT...if you want to make some great synth-music without worrying about sounding like a Moog, then patch that Virus or Supernova into your recorder and be grateful for what contemporary music technology has graced your studio with. Remember...there are great actors...and then there are impersonators who spend their life trying to do a great Jack Nicholson. Which would you rather watch work? Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:59:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:07:24 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Zhang, The Virus is a tone module which can generate any audible frequency. It is not limited to the intervals of the Western scale. Two ways to get more precision : - Use pitch bend with notes. - Turn down Osc Keyfollow. For practical use you would presumably need something to construct & play unusual scales. Logic Audio's Environment offers the MIDI processing capabilities to do so. Let us know how you get on. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:58:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:21:03 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Ronald, [Someone wrote:] >>>I can imagine there being quite a difference in fast-attack bass- sounds. [Ronald:] >When you look at this, it seems pretty obvious that the second one, would sound "snappier", because it has a transient at the beginning. Bzzt! Wrong! Both waves have exactly the same transients, but you can only see them if you make the drawing complete: Sure they have the same transients in a steady-state situation. What the original person was suggesting that at the *attack*, they would give different sounds. Assuming trigger-phase is set : One attacks with a ramp, has transient later One attacks with a *transient*, then ramps Attack with a transient will probably sound harder :-) >Another way to think about it: swap the +/- wires on (both) your speakers. The difference is an inversion in time, not in amplitude. If you swap the +/- wires on your alarm clock and attempt to shower before you get out of bed, there will be a difference. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 05:58:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:23:27 EDT Subject: help-need that madonna drum filter To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com hello, thanks for reading me. i was wondering how people are getting that enveloped drum sound...... madonna(frozen), and that dito song im not sure how to spell it . can i use my ext inputs and just mess with the filters? thank you for your help. mike g. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:58:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Sample Manipulation ! Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:54:08 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Howard, >Tried "my" idea out in spite of this and...failed miserably to extract the voice. Hard to get a clean sample. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 10:35:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 21:48:06 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I think this has been mentioned before, but it sounded cool so I'll mention it again: how about a patch crossfade/morph feature? ie you're playing one patch and, as you slowly twist the value knob, all of the parameters of the original patch are morphed into the parameters of another patch, leaving you with an entirely different sound. Or you could leave it halfway, if you liked that better. I think this would rock. Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 10:28:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 00:40:09 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco I think a random patch generator would be awesome. I like to program patches just like anybody else, but just for fun I'd like watch that Virus scramble like a slot machine and see if I hit the jackpot! Moho ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 10:35:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: the teeth of a saw Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:49:24 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Ronald, >No, BOTH attack with a transient, and then a ramp. Let me make the drawing even clearer: I see what you're getting at :-) I was confusing the drawing with a ramp from amplitude zero... which obviously would sound different. Thanks for making it clear. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 10:34:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:45:03 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: can the V do this ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From John Machielsen > >recently a friend of mine got a Juno 106. That thing can bend from one tone to another. I'll give a clear example. >You press a C1, then a D4, and the Juno bends the sound from the first to the second. "portamento" is probably what youre looking for. its the 2nd value ( single mode) in the ctrl menu. mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 10:34:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:53:44 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From "BeSchue" > >Right, this would be fine! Specially if it«s user assignable! User assignable things are the best anyway. One day some experienced users should come up with a REALLY useful synth concept and find themselves a company which builds the Synth behind it. >The frustrating thing is that tecnically a lot of things are already possible - but nobody does them! go to www.native-instruments.de, buy generator or reaktor, and build them. (then mail me your patches because by the i may be reaktor user, too) mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 15:54:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 08:37:52 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: can the V do this ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw one other note, could be autobend as well, im sure theres a way to get it on the virus using the mod matrix. weld michael wolf wrote: >* From michael wolf > >>* From John Machielsen >> >>recently a friend of mine got a Juno 106. That thing can bend from one tone to another. I'll give a clear example. >>You press a C1, then a D4, and the Juno bends the sound from the first to the second. > >"portamento" is probably what youre looking for. its the 2nd value ( single mode) in the ctrl menu. > >mic > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:55:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:48:22 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Huh , that would be awesome , especially when done "intelligent" to come up with more useful sounds : This would mean to randomize only certain parameters in a certain amount range . Nobody needs a patch randomizer which in 9 of 10 cases brings up the vocoder or other outputs . And please dont come now with answers like : Use Sounddiver for this . Because thats the most useless randomizer ive ever seen : I dont want to randomize one single setting or in contrary all parameters at once . This way you get only crap or vocoder patches . Regards Oliver Moho Disco schrieb: >* From Moho Disco > >I think a random patch generator would be awesome. I like to program patches just like anybody else, but just for fun I'd like watch that Virus scramble like a slot machine and see if I hit the jackpot! > >Moho > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:54:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:13:47 +0200 Subject: Boom Boom Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com When's the next update due ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:55:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:26:46 +0200 (MEST) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: definable knobs From: Benni Lampert X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001261624@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [193.159.2.72] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Benni Lampert * From Benni Lampert hi there ! a few days ago I asked for help concerning the definable knobs of my virus. did anyone read it ? if yes, please respond to me even if you haven«t got a helpful hint (this is my first time trying to contact the list). the problem was that i assigned one of the dfinable knobs to the semitone parameter of osc1 . when turning the knob only the actual value is shown, instead of initial AND actual value as it appears on any other parameter (like filter or envelope). why is that ?? does anybody know if its possible to see the initial value of a sound before having changed it by turning the knob? thanx benni -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 22:52:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: virus delivery time in belgium? To: Accesslist Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?q?Valentijn=20Steenhoudt?= I don't know if I should sent this to the list or to access directly... A friend of mine wants to buy a virus. But at the shop where he wanted to order one (I think it was Keys music or Piens in Belgium) they said there is a delivery/waiting time for 6 months... Can anyone (the Guyz from Access maybe?) tell me if this is true? And does anyone know some other shops in belgium where you don't have to wait that long? I bought mine over a year ago and I didn't have to wait that long (I got it in a month) so I find it hard to believe this. Thanx in advance and respect to ya all! Valentijn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 17:24:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:32:05 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Yes!!!! as k9 will acknowlegde after a visit to my studio if done right i.e. the waldorf pulse this can be a awesome feature if done wrong i.e. mw 2, its useless weld Moho Disco wrote: >* From Moho Disco > >I think a random patch generator would be awesome. I like to program patches just like anybody else, but just for fun I'd like watch that Virus scramble like a slot machine and see if I hit the jackpot! > >Moho > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 22:45:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#mail.nwlink.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:26:45 -0400 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. It is a simple one, that affects all continuous parameters of a sound, but not the switches (such as Vocoder Mode). Also the percentage of parameter variation will be adjustable. Ciao Christoph ______ YES!!! Christoph, you rock! -Marc marc@jli.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 19:46:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:50:33 -0400 Subject: Virus KB in the US From: "Eloy Anzola" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eloy Anzola" Dear list: I'm new to the list and almost certain this has been covered; but: Is the Virus Keyboard already available in the US ? if so, what's the price ? where/how can I get one ? Also, >From anyboday who may own it any surprises, dissapoinments, whishes... pros-cons. I would love to buy one..., like, eh..., yesterday... Thanks, All the best, Eloy ------ leaddaet@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 20:02:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 201308@pop.gmx.net Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:13:30 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: crawfish Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From crawfish At 11:32 05.09.99 +0000, you wrote: >* From "BeSchue" > >I would looooove to see an onboard refrigerator on the Virus C. I«d really get another one then. With a fridge it would be soooooooooooooooooh powerful! >Bernhard > >P.S.: BTW, you certainly know that you can adjust the "Oscillator keyfollow" parameter, don«t you? > GREAT IDEA !!! Then we would be able to cool down our fingers when they are hot from stepping through the menus!! - hehe ;-) Feature wishes: + a tuneable suboscillator + additional sync modes (like on the matrix 6/1000) - could be implemented easily as local menu + another, harder distortion characteristic BTW: Does OS 2.5 mess up multi names and if - is this corrected in OS 2.51 ? Bye, crawfish. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 20:16:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: i42575@inet.uni2.dk Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:18:09 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Michael Subject: Re: help-need that madonna drum filter Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Michael If you're working in Cubase , you should get the Plug-in called D-pole. It's the effect you're looking for... but of coarse you can use your virus to make that same effect! Michael/Denmark >hello, thanks for reading me. i was wondering how people are getting that enveloped drum sound...... madonna(frozen), and that dito song im not sure how to spell it . can i use my ext inputs and just mess with the filters? thank you for your help. >mike g. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 20:27:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:26:22 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >BTW: Does OS 2.5 mess up multi names and if - is this corrected in OS 2.51 ? No. It's due to an incorrect component in an early batch of virii (forgot which one). I got my virus repaired (great service by tsi!) and it's all right now. bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 20:28:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:27:26 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >Feature wishes: >+ a tuneable suboscillator >+ additional sync modes (like on the matrix 6/1000) - could be implemented easily as local menu >+ another, harder distortion characteristic I'd like a fade-in time for all the lfo's, not just #3. bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 23:47:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#mail.nwlink.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:27:28 -0400 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: and just one more thing... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick Yeah, and while we're on the subject of dreams revisited, any chance of a sound trigger button/button combo? With that, plus a randomizer, (oh, and that fabled arpeggiator...), I'll carry my virus with me everywhere, I swear. Now, if I could just figure out a portable, lightweight, rechargeable power solution for my virus, I'd be *really* happy. -marc marc@jli.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 20:30:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:42:00 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB in the US Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw End of september, very short supply! 2295$ list, contact music central, 8th street music, washington music, or nova music for a good price and great service. contact Geoff at gsf for initial allotment weld Eloy Anzola wrote: >* From "Eloy Anzola" > >Dear list: > >I'm new to the list and almost certain this has been covered; but: > >Is the Virus Keyboard already available in the US ? > >if so, what's the price ? where/how can I get one ? > >Also, > >>From anyboday who may own it any surprises, dissapoinments, >whishes... pros-cons. > >I would love to buy one..., like, eh..., yesterday... > >Thanks, >All the best, > >Eloy >------ >leaddaet@earthlink.net >http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 21:00:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:58:28 EDT Subject: Re: help-need that madonna drum filter To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com thanks for your help.. just wondering how to use the ext in's to get that effect. thanks mike ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 21:26:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 12:21:02 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: can the V do this ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 12:29 AM 9/6/99 +0200, you wrote: * From John Machielsen recently a friend of mine got a Juno 106. That thing can bend from one tone to another. I'll give a clear example. You press a C1, then a D4, and the Juno bends the sound from the first to the second. I haven't got enough experience with my Virus yet to figure out how to work it out, if it's possible at all. John, That's called Portamento (or some synths call it 'Glide'), and it's a common feature on many analog-style synthesizers. The Virus does indeed support Portamento, and you can apply it either monophonically (i.e. it only glides from one key to another) or polyphonically, where it will apply to the whole chord. Check out the Access Virus manual for more details on how to set Portamento on a voice. It's a fun effect - I find that I like small amounts of short portamento on my monophonic lead lines, it produces a pleasing effect, and in fact many old Moog patches (like the Moog leads in the Virus factory presets) use polyphonic this way too... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 21:12:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 201308@pop.gmx.net Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 21:23:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: crawfish Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From crawfish At 20:26 06.09.99 +0200, you wrote: >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >>BTW: Does OS 2.5 mess up multi names and if - is this corrected in OS 2.51 ? > >No. It's due to an incorrect component in an early batch of virii (forgot which one). I got my virus repaired (great service by tsi!) and it's all right now. > >bye >jasper Damn sh** - So I'll have to send it in ?! Hope this isn't true ! :-( My serial number is D19700456. Christoph ? Thanks, crawfish. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 23:01:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:19:39 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver What can i say else than : GREAT . Im sure you never heard this before : Your update policy as well as the virus are really on a high standard and worth every cent . Thanks . Oliver CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 06.09.99 13:44:41 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Huh , that would be awesome , especially when done "intelligent" to come up with more useful sounds : This would mean to randomize only certain parameters >>in a certain amount range . Nobody needs a patch randomizer which in 9 of >10 >>cases brings up the vocoder or other outputs . And please dont come now with answers like : Use Sounddiver for this . Because >>thats the most useless randomizer ive ever seen : I dont want to >randomize >>one >> >>single setting or in contrary all parameters at once . This way you get >only >>crap or vocoder patches . > >I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. It is a simple one, that affects all continuous parameters of a sound, but not the switches (such as Vocoder Mode). Also the percentage of parameter variation will be adjustable. > >Ciao >Christoph >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 23:22:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:19:44 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. chris... i think i love u. mic ps.: oh, and what about that programmable arpegg... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 23:27:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 17:39:45 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw re: random mode perhaps varying degrees ,as well christoph, if it doesnt take much memory?? massive random, medium, and slight??? weld CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 06.09.99 13:44:41 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Huh , that would be awesome , especially when done "intelligent" to come up with more useful sounds : This would mean to randomize only certain parameters >>in a certain amount range . Nobody needs a patch randomizer which in 9 of >10 >>cases brings up the vocoder or other outputs . And please dont come now with answers like : Use Sounddiver for this . Because >>thats the most useless randomizer ive ever seen : I dont want to >randomize >>one >> >>single setting or in contrary all parameters at once . This way you get >only >>crap or vocoder patches . > >I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. It is a simple one, that affects all continuous parameters of a sound, but not the switches (such as Vocoder Mode). Also the percentage of parameter variation will be adjustable. > >Ciao >Christoph >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 6 23:58:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:57:10 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. It is a simple one, that affects all continuous parameters of a sound, but not the switches (such as Vocoder Mode). Also the percentage of parameter variation will be adjustable. Great to see Access continuing its excellent work! Another thing I'd love to see: When the clock-mode is engaged for an LFO the rate knob has no function. It would be very handy if you could select the clock-mode (1/16, 1/32 etc) with it. Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 07:13:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:13:18 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket CKe9644719@AOL.COM wrote: > >Still nobody explained to me, how those sync modes operate in a technical way. I will ask Guido if he knows. You missed my explanation in that thread? It was several weeks ago. It must be in the digest somewhere... In short: at the moment that the phase of one oscillator passes 0 degrees, you reset the phase of another. Currently, you use something like phase=0. In soft sync, you reset it only part way, like phase=phase*amount, where "amount" is between 0 (hard sync) and 1 (no sync), and "phase" is between -180 and 180 degrees. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 00:37:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:34:51 EDT Subject: basic help in synthesis To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com hello. i know you are all experts at the whole synth thing, but im mainly a musician. i bought the virus because i need to add a great synth to my set up. i was going to get the jp8080 but found that it sounded dull compared to the virus. my only problem is, i can't get the virus vocoder to work like it should. is there any basic help i can get. id love to plug a mic into it and then control it with another keyboard. thanks mike g-funk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 00:56:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:55:02 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. It is a simple one, that affects all continuous parameters of a sound, but not the switches (such as Vocoder Mode). Also the percentage of parameter variation will be adjustable. CK, That is awesome. I don't have a Virus right now simply because I can't afford it, but the SECOND I have enough money there will be one in my hands. This kind of support just makes me want one more. Moho ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 01:09:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:10:26 -0400 From: norsez X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: I am sorry Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From norsez I am sorry. I never thought I'd have to ask this to the list. How can I get off this list? I have requested unsubscription for about four times, but I am still on. Any hints? norsez CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 06.09.99 14:29:21 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>When's the next update due >> > >Soon. > >Christoph >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 02:29:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:40:37 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw you probally need a preamp on your mic to boosts it signal. just try some of the vocoder presets included in 2.5 update they work great. i love controlling virus pads with a my headset mic, makes me think of my old memorymoog/roland voder days when our cover band did fixx tunes : ) weld MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: >* From MYKE7777@aol.com > >hello. i know you are all experts at the whole synth thing, but im mainly a musician. i bought the virus because i need to add a great synth to my set up. i was going to get the jp8080 but found that it sounded dull compared to the virus. my only problem is, i can't get the virus vocoder to work like it should. is there any basic help i can get. id love to plug a mic into it and then control it with another keyboard. thanks >mike g-funk >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: >* From MYKE7777@aol.com > >hello. i know you are all experts at the whole synth thing, but im mainly a musician. i bought the virus because i need to add a great synth to my set up. i was going to get the jp8080 but found that it sounded dull compared to the virus. my only problem is, i can't get the virus vocoder to work like it should. is there any basic help i can get. id love to plug a mic into it and then control it with another keyboard. thanks >mike g-funk >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 02:30:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:41:52 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw someone asked earlier about a basic analog synthesis guide and wizoo just came out with a great one www.wizoo.com weld MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: >* From MYKE7777@aol.com > >hello. i know you are all experts at the whole synth thing, but im mainly a musician. i bought the virus because i need to add a great synth to my set up. i was going to get the jp8080 but found that it sounded dull compared to the virus. my only problem is, i can't get the virus vocoder to work like it should. is there any basic help i can get. id love to plug a mic into it and then control it with another keyboard. thanks >mike g-funk >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 03:17:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 21:18:00 -0400 From: Chris Borgia X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris Borgia Maybe this is silly but a times i wished there was a way to internally trigger a MIDI NOTE ON. Say a button that could be used like a C4 key. Think about it, taking the virus out of the studio, bring some headphones and make some noise in another environment ---other then your studio? soon to be worldwide...CRISPY ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 03:22:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: the VIRUS can be much more if... Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:18:17 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Christoph, people, >You can archive the hardest distortions by turning OSC VOL full to the right. >But you wouldn't get a sort of guitar distortion resp. intermodulation, because the saturation is individual for each voice. I like guitar distortion, where the whole chord is distorted as one. Presumably we can achieve this by routing to Aux and then distorting in a separate Aux Input patch. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 03:25:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:21:31 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Myke, [Re : Vocoder] >id love to plug a mic into it and then control it with another keyboard. You need a pre-amplifier for the microphone, the Virus inputs operate at line level. Pre-amplifier amplifies 'mic level' or 'instrument level' (for guitars) signals to line level. Can be found on mixer channels, as (expensive) discrete units, or any device with mic in and line out. Is this what you wanted to know? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 03:53:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "cybie" To: Subject: RE: new ideas thread Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:50:49 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "cybie" Yeh... thats why i once mentioned that they should put in a 777 style step sequencer into the virus.. just to hold one 16 step pattern so u can have it play as u tweak sounds.. then u dont need a computer to trigger notes.. it went something like this * = note on >= note continue - = rest and where u had a note on you could set the note value for it so like a pattern may look like this *>>-*>>-*>>-*-*> and i the cursor was over a "*" then another line could show the pitch and velocity of the note. they already have a demo sequence in there. why not replace it with a mini sequencer me >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >[mailto:owner-access-list@teklab.com]On Behalf Of Chris Borgia Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 9:18 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: new ideas thread > > >* From Chris Borgia > >Maybe this is silly but a times i wished there was a way to internally trigger a MIDI NOTE ON. Say a button that could be used like a C4 key. > >Think about it, taking the virus out of the studio, bring some headphones and make some noise in another environment ---other then your studio? > >soon to be worldwide...CRISPY > >__________________________________________________________________ _________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 04:39:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Posted-Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:36:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mark Jensen" To: Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:32:53 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Jensen" When I first tried the vocoder, I found that if I have a mic only plugged into the left input it helped to change the vocoder patch to receive only on "Inp L" in the menus. The volume of the patch seemed to increase when I changed it from "Inp L & R". Mark -----Original Message----- From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 8:18 PM Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis >* From bigw > >you probally need a preamp on your mic to boosts it signal. just try some of the >vocoder presets included in 2.5 update they work great. i love controlling virus pads with a my headset mic, makes me think of my old >memorymoog/roland voder days when our cover band did fixx tunes : ) weld > >MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: > >>* From MYKE7777@aol.com >> >>hello. i know you are all experts at the whole synth thing, but im mainly a >>musician. i bought the virus because i need to add a great synth to my set >>up. i was going to get the jp8080 but found that it sounded dull compared to >>the virus. my only problem is, i can't get the virus vocoder to work like it >>should. is there any basic help i can get. id love to plug a mic into it >>and then control it with another keyboard. thanks >>mike g-funk >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > > > >MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: > >>* From MYKE7777@aol.com >> >>hello. i know you are all experts at the whole synth thing, but im mainly a >>musician. i bought the virus because i need to add a great synth to my set >>up. i was going to get the jp8080 but found that it sounded dull compared to >>the virus. my only problem is, i can't get the virus vocoder to work like it >>should. is there any basic help i can get. id love to plug a mic into it >>and then control it with another keyboard. thanks >>mike g-funk >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 05:45:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: RE: new ideas thread To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus i gotta say... im with cybie on that one hehe... its a good idea.. very similar to what my microwave xt has as the arp pattern editor... and im sure sooner or later acces will put out a new os.. with this change in it -Cyngus ps:... i think i heard sumwhere that access might be getting into the sampler feilds?.. is that true or just rumors __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 07:39:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:56:51 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I am sorry Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver I think you have to type "unsubscribe" into the mail header . Then you have to send it to the list or another adress at teklab , you find it at their pages. Hope you dont ask this to the 505 list too ; ) Oli norsez schrieb: >* From norsez > >I am sorry. I never thought I'd >have to ask this to the list. >How can I get off this list? >I have requested unsubscription >for about four times, but >I am still on. Any hints? > >norsez > >CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >> >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >> >>In einer eMail vom 06.09.99 14:29:21 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >> >>> >>>When's the next update due >>> >> >>Soon. >> >>Christoph >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 09:13:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "a l i + +" To: Subject: Re: I am sorry Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:03:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "a l i + +" * From norsez > >I am sorry. I never thought I'd >have to ask this to the list. >How can I get off this list? >I have requested unsubscription >for about four times, but >I am still on. Any hints? > To Unsubscribe Un-subscribing from the access-list is very easy -- just follow the same procedure that you did to subscribe, but this time, send the following e-mail message in the message body (not in the Subject: field) to majordomo@teklab.com: unsubscribe access-list your@ddress.here end You will shortly be automagically unsubscribed from the list. ali ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 10:42:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 01:43:27 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam Have you tried the preset patches? They can be found in the D bank of singles, at the end. All vocoder patch names start with VOC (ie VOCflange). The presets sound really good. I've pretty much given up on trying to program my own vocoder patches. Cam At 06:34 PM 9/6/99 EDT, you wrote: >* From MYKE7777@aol.com >the virus. my only problem is, i can't get the virus vocoder to work like it >should. is there any basic help i can get. id love to plug a mic into it and then control it with another keyboard. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 11:33:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:00:39 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: help-need that madonna drum filter Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:18 PM +0200 on 06.09.1999 Michael wrote: If you're working in Cubase , you should get the Plug-in called D-pole. It's the effect you're looking for... but of coarse you can use your virus to make that same effect! Or we could all start bugging Access about a Virus-Filter, Envelope, Delay, LFO, Vocoder, Ringmod and saturation VST plugin...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 11:33:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:04:57 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:18 PM -0400 on 06.09.1999 Chris Borgia wrote: Maybe this is silly but a times i wished there was a way to internally trigger a MIDI NOTE ON. Say a button that could be used like a C4 key. Hm, meessa hopin dis idn't aksing for too-a much, but maybe it coulda been adjustible? ;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 11:33:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:08:02 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:21 PM +1200 on 07.09.1999 Thomas Whitmore wrote: [Re : Vocoder] >id love to plug a mic into it and then control it with another keyboard. You need a pre-amplifier for the microphone, the Virus inputs operate at line level. Pre-amplifier amplifies 'mic level' or 'instrument level' (for guitars) signals to line level. Can be found on mixer channels, as (expensive) discrete units, or any device with mic in and line out. There is a pretty cheap one made by another German company called Behringer. they are on the net at http://www.behringer.de. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 14:24:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:21:26 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. It is a simple one, that affects all continuous parameters of a sound, but not the switches i agree that it shouldnt affect the input, vocoder, and maybe arp settings. but it will affect the assign source and dest settings, i hope? (so that the outcome will be really totally unpredictable, which i think is the point in gambling) mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 13:00:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:01:05 -0400 From: norsez X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I am sorry Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From norsez Oliver wrote: > >* From Oliver > >I think you have to type "unsubscribe" into the mail header . Then you have to send it to the list or another adress at teklab , you find it at their pages. Hope you dont ask this to the 505 list too ; ) > >Oli Hey Oli, Hehehe I won't. I am still on that list. (Plus they are a bit more brutal about this too.) I have followed the unsubscriiption porcedure at teklab.com for 4 times but I am still on. In fact those message they sent to confirm me never said they unsubed me. They just said they were waiting for the head of the list to consider removing me. Hmmm.... norsez ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 13:23:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: Virus B out in UK? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:22:31 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" IS it? Turnkey are advertising a new 16 note poly with vocoder for £899. Is this the Virus B? Do they genuinely stock it or what? Cheers tOM ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 14:52:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:44:40 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Arpeggiator again Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:17 AM +0000 on 08.09.1999 S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: while you are doing some work on the arpeggiator for the next OS update how about making it possible to allow the definable knobs (or any other controller) to be assigned to the pattern and octave range parameters of the arpeggiator. How about making Note length an option, so that a note is not always half of the arp clock value? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 16:14:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:12:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: help-need that madonna drum filter To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?q?Valentijn=20Steenhoudt?= Hey!! wasn't it the Sherman Filterbank (awesome filterbank by the way!!!)?? Anyone?? --- CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 06.09.99 20:02:33 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>* From MYKE7777@aol.com >> >>thanks for your help.. just wondering how to use >the ext in's to get that >>effect. >>thanks mike > >These Madonna drum sounds where made by Samples (!) that were processed >through a filter like the Virus. > >Ciao >Christoph > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 17:02:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:58:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: virus delivery time in belgium? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?q?Valentijn=20Steenhoudt?= Thanx Christoph for the information! I've sent your mail to my friend so I guess he will order it elsewere... but I'm still not sure wich shop it was (Piens or Keys-muziek , 2 of the rather largest music shops in Belgium). Greetings and respect, Valentijn --- CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: > >Would be interesting to know the name of the shop. > >The situation is in general: We have Virus in stock, every dealer can hold a >unit in their shops. In Europe you don't need to wait for a unit for more >than three weeks. > >But ... there are a number of dealers that don't pay their account, so we >don't send them new units, of course. > >Just call another dealer, and tell me what he says. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 17:04:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [207.140.10.3] From: "Mark Child" To: Subject: Re: help-need that madonna drum filter Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:03:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Child" Yep the Sherman filterbank, phats out those drum beats, and hits you right in the solar-plexus. Mark M.T.K www.mindthinkkick.freeserve.co.uk Email:-Mindthinkkick@hotmail.com Track of the month:- Maxim 'My Web' Catch M.T.K live @Bucks Student Union On 'Freshers' week (27th Sept-2 Oct 1999) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 17:32:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Virus B, wherefore art thou virus b? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:30:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" I was the one that mentioned the Virus B at GC Central Dallas. I know it was there because it now resides in my buddies studio. I got to check it out yesterday. I like it alot. The new buttons are nice, and the screening has tabed lables. It looks nice. Rick >* From janthony > >Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a virus b? I'm in Toronto (Canada) and I've emailed the North American distributor but they didn't respond - all the stores in Canada haven't even heard of it. I've even called the Guitar Centre in Central Dallas that someone mentioned earlier had it - and the guy in keyboards told me he didn't even know what a virus was. If anyone could let me know who has one I'd really appreciate it. Also I'm kind of curious is the price the same as the desktop or more, and if so how much? > >Thanks > >John Anthony > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 17:32:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:49:41 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Dumb Dump Question Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Hey all , I just got robs sounddisk . Now i wanted to store my own patches with sounddiver . This program drives me crazy . Its possible to send banks , but i cant transfer the virus banks to my computer . i always get an error message like "Sysex failure , virus doesnt answer " . I tried it with two midi interfaces , different chords and it doesnt work . But i see my midi in led light up so there are messages to the computer . I have soft trough off and midi dump rx enabled . If anyone knows a different way to do it let me know please . Regards Oli ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 18:07:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: definable knobs Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:05:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" This is probably because the defineable knobs are more like assignable controllers (modwhell, data slider, etc.), while the other knobs are physical controls to specific parameters. They show the initial value so you can return to that value if necessary. All you have to do with a definable knob to get the initial value is twist it fully counter clockwise... Rick hi there ! a few days ago I asked for help concerning the definable knobs of my virus. did anyone read it ? if yes, please respond to me even if you haven«t got a helpful hint (this is my first time trying to contact the list). the problem was that i assigned one of the dfinable knobs to the semitone parameter of osc1 . when turning the knob only the actual value is shown, instead of initial AND actual value as it appears on any other parameter (like filter or envelope). why is that ?? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 18:43:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:41:37 EDT Subject: what's a sherman filterbank? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com just wondering what the hype is all about ;) thanks mike g-funk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 18:43:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:42:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: Arpeggiator again Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >How about making Note length an option, so that a note is not always half of the arp clock value? good idea! also useful for using the virus arp to trigger other synths or especially samplers (which i once tried, using the random arp setting in order to play a given set of samples in a random sequence. it failed, because the arp notes were too short. i had to program random notes with cubase's locical editor, much less intuitive of course, than simply holding down the according keys. but ive found an even better solution: a sony minidisc walkman in "shuffle" mode which is brilliant for creating never ending random ambient soundscapes. of course, the tracks on the md have to be short enough so that there is no break between them when played back in a random sequence) on the other hand, that would be yet another menu item. in a short time we will need a software editor like the one for the nord modular, because it would take ages to browse thru the menus. or maybe its time to implement sub-menus (dont we all hate them), i dont know... or we could simply decide to give up control and always accept what the random sound generator suggests (thats probably the option john cage would have suggested) ;-) mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 20:22:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:10:39 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Arpeggiator again Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 11:17 AM 9/8/99 +0000, you wrote: * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Christoph - while you are doing some work on the arpeggiator for the next OS update how about making it possible to allow the definable knobs (or any other controller) to be assigned to the pattern and octave range parameters of the arpeggiator. comments anyone? Oooh... yeah! I dunno why we didn't think of this one sooner ... great idea, has my vote! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 20:24:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "a l i + +" To: Subject: Re: what's a sherman filterbank? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:17:14 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "a l i + +" >* From MYKE7777@aol.com > >just wondering what the hype is all about ;) thanks >mike g-funk it is the coolest synth without oscillators ever manufactured. check it out here www.ping.be/sherman ali ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 21:32:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:33:17 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: new ideas thread Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam Here's something else I'd like to see in the next update: how about a shiny new .pdf manual addendum, incorporating everything that's been added in all OS updates? I'd like to have one document to download, print out and pack around with my manual. Would this be too much of a pain in the ass? Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 21:41:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:40:03 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: noise-reduction plug-in Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp I have SoundForge 4.5 -- the noise reduction filter came with it. You can still purchase it separately if you have an older version of SF, but I'm not sure how much it is (maybe $200?). -zs >in one of the last mails a noise-reduction plug-in for soundforge was mentioned. >where can I get it and is it free? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 00:46:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:20:12 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Dumb Dump Question Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:49 PM +0200 on 07.09.1999 Oliver wrote: * From Oliver Hey all , I just got robs sounddisk . Now i wanted to store my own patches with sounddiver . This program drives me crazy . Oh yes, the old soundDiver. I have a nagging suspicion that there is only one person on this planet who knows how to use that program and that is Michael Haydn. Unfortunately nobody even tries to use soundDiver the way he uses it... anyway. I noticed a huge improvement in 2.08r1. this is the most current version for the Macintosh and that finally works most of the time for me. as for your troubles: make sure the Virus is connected both ways, in and out. then make sure the Virus is set to the correct MIDI channel, Device ID, Midi Port. then select the single banks and click on the keyboard/questionmark icon. this works for me, on the mac. does soundDiver start up with an error message? if so this could be a hint that something is wired up wrong... as an alternative: just set your sequencer to record, then go to the MIDI page and do a total dump on the Virus. Logic will record everything and you can always play it back to the Virus later. good luck! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 23:50:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:45:28 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: kWeScHuN Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco I don't have a Virus yet, but plan on buying one as soon as I can. One thing I'd like to know is can one plug an external signal into the external ins on the Virus, then use an LFO to modulate the *pitch* of that signal? Or is it limited to vocoding and filtering and effecting? Moho ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 00:26:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:24:24 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: kWeScHuN Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >I don't have a Virus yet, but plan on buying one as soon as I can. One thing I'd like to know is can one plug an external signal into the external ins on the Virus, then use an LFO to modulate the *pitch* of that signal? Or is it limited to vocoding and filtering and effecting? right ... the external signal *takes the place of* the oscillators for that patch (thereby being unaffected by pitch changes). although with the filter resonance set high enough, an interesting pitch-emphasis (formant?) technique can be achieved... -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 00:58:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: Just 2 simple questions.... Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:52:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" 1. Is it possible to map out a few sounds across the keyboard for recieving on one channel? 2. In multi mode, can you setup a multi group of 16 voices of any choice (in a similar way to the Roland JV's) or do you have to create these voices specifically for each multi-group (like the Yamaha an1x)? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 02:53:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:48:29 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi K.9, [Pre-amp] >There is a pretty cheap one made by another German company called Behringer. The Mackie VLZ Pro mixers have *excellent* pre-amps. I'd buy one of these in preference to any other analog mixer or low-to-mid range pre-amp. Vocals thru one of these are incredibly well defined; even with a cheap mic. Comparison with Behringer mixers was day & night. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 03:21:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:18:17 EDT Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com the ART MP1 is great and cheap.. im used to using Neve, Peavey, and Focusrite and the ART stand up to them... mike g ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 03:28:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: kWeScHuN Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:24:28 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Moho, >One thing I'd like to know is can one plug an external signal into the external ins on the Virus, then use an LFO to modulate the *pitch* of that signal? No. Only internal oscillators can be pitched by LFO, since the operation of such is controlled by the Virus. External sound sources have to be pitched via their own control. There is no easy, simple, or artifact-free algorithm to change the pitch of a real-time sound source. Of course you can sample it and play it back at different pitches... >Or is it limited to vocoding and filtering and effecting? Gating and distortion as well. I got excellent results the other day, gating & filtering two tracks of samples. It took the sound to a whole new level, above what was achievable with just the sampler. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 03:42:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 03:40:10 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: what's a sherman filterbank? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi Mike, Don't tell me you don't know one of the only audio products Belgium has to offer ??? :-))) This is a GREAT filterbank... I personally think it's the best. Check their homepage: http://www.ping.be/sherman/ Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com List-admin Logic-users/ Sounddiver-users/ Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 05:23:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:23:26 -0700 From: Eric Harder To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: what's a sherman filterbank? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Eric Harder Mike, It's like the man said. If you don't have one, get one. If you've only got one, get another. This is the bad boy of filtage, and it's got the capability of linking multiple filterbanks together. Find one. Tweak. It's DC to the speed of light in a far out little box. But be afraid. Be very afraid for your woofers. You've been warned. Now go buy one. I know where to get them cheap. Reply privately. -E ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 06:15:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:11:07 EDT Subject: simple question To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com hello.. like i said, im mostly a musician who is lucky enough to have a big studio. i don't have time to learn everything. it takes long enough to understand the computer sequencing and the hard disk recorder. i pretty much suck at basic synth stuff. i love the Virus presets but how do i get a simple sine wave? i'd like to make my own bass sounds. thanks very much. newbie mike :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 06:39:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:36:36 EDT Subject: Re: what's a sherman filterbank? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ShawnClear@aol.com hi, << I know where to get them cheap. Reply privately. >> Where's that and how much? Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 06:39:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:37:53 EDT Subject: Re: what's a sherman filterbank? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ShawnClear@aol.com hi, Ooops! Sorry for sending that to the list! Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 07:42:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 07:57:30 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: simple question Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Take the START patch (A127 or C127). Turn osc shape to the left so you can select waveforms with the knob below (WAVE SELECT) : Now turn WAVE SELECT full to the left . There is your sine . But dont let you confuse when in middle of the display another wavename appears Thats just the waveform that was selected before tweaking knobs . Have fun Oli MYKE7777@aol.com schrieb: >* From MYKE7777@aol.com > >hello.. like i said, im mostly a musician who is lucky enough to have a big studio. i don't have time to learn everything. it takes long enough to understand the computer sequencing and the hard disk recorder. i pretty much suck at basic synth stuff. i love the Virus presets but how do i get a simple sine wave? i'd like to make my own bass sounds. thanks very much. > >newbie mike >:) >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 09:44:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:42:53 +0200 Subject: Re: kWeScHuN Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:45:28 -0500 (EST), Moho Disco wrote: >* From Moho Disco > >I don't have a Virus yet, but plan on buying one as soon as I can. One thing I'd like to know is can one plug an external signal into the external ins on the Virus, then use an LFO to modulate the *pitch* of that signal? Or is it limited to vocoding and filtering and effecting? Well, the most common way for precise real-time pitch shifting would be an effect often called "harmonizer". Such a type of effect is not part of the VIRUS. Anyway, you might want to try to use the chorus effect for slight cyclic pitch shifts (a chorus does just that: it shifts the signal for up to an halftone up and down and mixes the result with the original signal). I haven't checked yet, but I think the VIRUS allows the chorus effect to be modified this way that only the shifted signal can be heard (mix balance). Did anyone try this ? CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 10:19:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: kWeScHuN Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:51:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Anyway, you might want to try to use the chorus effect for slight cyclic pitch shifts .... >Did anyone try this ? The delay is good for pitch shifting. Of course, you won't get anything static out of it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 12:15:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:17:31 +0000 Subject: Arpeggiator again Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Christoph - while you are doing some work on the arpeggiator for the next OS update how about making it possible to allow the definable knobs (or any other controller) to be assigned to the pattern and octave range parameters of the arpeggiator. comments anyone? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 13:57:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:25:11 +0330 (GMT+03:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: new access page WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Wooow! Canine, very cewl! Compliments! I also like the virus pics. I see you removed my not-anymore-working links. It's a pity I still don't have my pages online, I am waiting for www.dimi.nl (!!!!) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 15:46:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:41:20 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: new access page Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:25 PM +0330 on 08.09.1999 dimi@dds.nl wrote: Wooow! Canine, very cewl! Compliments! I also like the virus pics. I see you removed my not-anymore-working links. It's a pity I still don't have my pages online, I am waiting for www.dimi.nl (!!!!) but.. but... I didn't do it... it was Access who updated their page. I only update my page... or were you talking about http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus? but then you must have not looked in wuite a while.. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 16:02:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:31:11 +0330 (GMT+03:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new ideas thread WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Ha! I know those 'simple' functions of you access guys. The virus is full of those 'simple' features, 'simple'filters, a 'simple' ringmod, a 'simple' vocoder, a 'simple' modmatrix. Sure. :-) Dimitri. CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: >I'm planning to create such a function in the Virus. It is a simple one, that >affects all continuous parameters of a sound, but not the switches (such as >Vocoder Mode). Also the percentage of parameter variation will be adjustable. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 7 15:11:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:13:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator again Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>while you are doing some work on the arpeggiator for the next OS update how about making it possible to allow the definable knobs (or any other controller) >>to be assigned to the pattern and octave range parameters of the arpeggiator. > >How about making Note length an option, so that a note is not always half of the arp clock value? > and have that parameter adjustable by definables / Controllers! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 16:18:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Super Chuck" To: Subject: Re: Arpeggiator again Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:17:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Super Chuck" Why did you not consider altering the release value, or playback mode within the sampler? This would have probably solved your problem... Rick >good idea! also useful for using the virus arp to trigger other synths or especially samplers (which i once tried, using the random arp setting in order to play a given set of samples in a random sequence. it failed, because the arp notes were too short. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 16:23:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:21:33 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: have you seen him? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" fwiw: Nice pictures and a very nice interview with Christoph Kemper and Stephan Sprenger from Prosoniq and Stephan Schmitt from Native Instruments in the latest issue of German Keys magazine... enjoy... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 19:12:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:46:03 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: Arpeggiator again Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From "Super Chuck" > >Why did you not consider altering the release value, or playback mode within the sampler? This would have probably solved your problem... i guess so. but it wasnt a 'real' sampler, only a cheap little phrase sampler without envelope generators. no eg, no release time. mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 8 18:54:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 8 Sep 1999 18:51:28 -0000 From: Snorre Vestvold Ruch To: access-list@teklab.com User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 X-Originating-IP: 158.38.111.123 Subject: Triggers Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Snorre Vestvold Ruch Beautifull friends! How can I trigger LFOs in envelope-mode from my sequencer without repressing keys? And: Should not the LFO-rate work when LFO are synced to clock and in Env-mode? I really can't figure it out... I need to retrigger something without repressing a key. Could the filter-envelope or LFOs be triggered by MIDI? I know LFOs can, but only while synced to clock, and then they are running anyways. Any ideas? Best regards! krupP ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 3 21:13:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Bass to be basssss Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:12:52 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" I'll throw in a few cents... You can get quite good basses with the Virus. You definitely have to tweak a little bit (bit of distortion etc) and for me the serial 4 somehow works better then the serial 6. Not that it isn't functioning well...it's just that it gives me the basses I'm looking for. No, it isn't a Moog Modular...absolutely not...but with a good filter setting and distortion you can get TD/Node like quality basses :-) (if thats what you're looking for of course...I am...and found it) My CD will be ready in 2 weeks and Christoph...you will definitely get one...just want to show you the way I use the Virus in my music. :-) And on it almost every bass comes from the Virus... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 00:17:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:34:08 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: To Rop Pappen Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Hey Rob , since i dont know your private email i send this to the whole list . I made my first song with some of your patches from the signature set . I want to thank you for this awesome sounds . Well worth the 60 bucks . I recommend them to everybody , even to the sound synthesis specialists . Unfortuneately i bought the other Nice Bytes Disks too . Very disapointing . Most of the sounds are simply useless . 1 of 10 is usable but there are only 3 or 4 really good ones on 4 banks . So my suggestion to all of you who wanted to buy sounds , take robs and nothing else . Well i have to add i only tried the Nice Bytes Disks , so i cant talk about the other manufacters . Regards Oli ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 09:35:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:02:30 +0330 (GMT+03:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new access page WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Well ehmmm.... I actually mean both pages. Since I always browse 'em both, I sometimes confuse them. The things I really appreciated about the pages are the archive of mails of the past years, and the pic's, (your page) and the new look of the access page. But I didn't realise that it was not all your work. Hope you still accept the compliment. :-) Dimitri. K.9 Kai Niggemann schreef: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > but.. but... I didn't do it... it was Access who updated their page. >I only update my page... or were you talking about http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus? but then you must have not >looked in wuite a while.. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 09:52:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:21:37 +0330 (GMT+03:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Triggers WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Hello! If you use the LFO/Env Synced for e.g. filter, you could create a patch with no OSC, but with the Filter/LFO. Use this as an internal effect: The patches' output with osc (or external sound) you want to use must be sent to it. So, in fact you split you patch up to two patches. Dimitri. Snorre Vestvold Ruch schreef: >* From Snorre Vestvold Ruch > Beautifull friends! > >How can I trigger LFOs in envelope-mode from my sequencer without repressing keys? > >And: Should not the LFO-rate work when LFO are synced to clock and in Env-mode? > >I really can't figure it out... I need to retrigger something without repressing a key. Could the filter-envelope or LFOs be triggered by MIDI? I know LFOs can, but only while synced to clock, and then they are running anyways. > >Any ideas? > >Best regards! > >krupP >___________________________________________________________ ________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 12:11:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:09:12 +0200 (MEST) From: Benni Lampert To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: definables X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001261624@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [212.184.150.117] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Benni Lampert --- Weitergeleitete Nachricht / Forwarded Message --- >Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:20:43 +0200 >From: Joerg Meissner To: Benni Lampert >Subject: Definables > >I now know about the missing initial-value when Definables-Value are shown >- thank you for your info. This topic is on my "what I have to do"-list, but has not as much priority as you might want :| (you are the first guy on >the list since this list is running, who recognized this and wrote it to the list). >The reason is, that the definables are a really interesting and very flexible part of the user-interface - and not as normal as other knobs do >behave - and very simple: it's taking manpower in our sweet, little company, which is actualy invested in other things. > >But you are right: It has to be done. And for sure, I will do it ! > >Do might reply to me, in which situation you seriously miss this feature - >or was it only a question as you recognized the missing init-value, thinking: "Oups - might be interesting for access". > >Joerg Meissner >access > thank you joerg, for taking me serious with my problems ! you«re right, i«m just one of those guys tweaking the virus all day and night trying to find a bug... (just kidding) surely, it is interesting for you to hear about a "missing feature" that noone has recognized yet. but for me it is in fact neccessary to see the inital value: e.g. definable 1 is assigned to osc1semitone (usefull because there is no such knob on the panel). when creating heavily detuned or sync sounds the semitone parameter is often set to very exotic values. once changed it is hard to find back to the initial value even by trying out... i found out that using the KnobMode SNAP is helpful in my case. but since i don«t like it when tweaking sounds (you don«t get the results as fast as in JUMP mode) i«ll have to wait untill you fixed this "bug" in a couple of years... ;-) you«re doing a great job, you access-guys !! and thanx for joining me to the list. benni -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 13:31:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:19:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: new access page Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:02 AM +0330 on 09.09.1999 dimi@dds.nl wrote: Well ehmmm.... I actually mean both pages. Since I always browse 'em both, I sometimes confuse them. The things I really appreciated about the pages are the archive of mails of the past years, and the pic's, (your page) and the new look of the access page. But I didn't realise that it was not all your work. Hope you still accept the compliment. :-) Oh syes, I do, I just wanted to give credit to access for their own page, since it's they who are doing the great job of maintaining the www.access-music.de website...! thank you very much for the compliment non the less, It's always great to see that my work is appreciated. over 48000 hits in 1.5 years make me think that my work makes some sense...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 13:38:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.206.25.74] From: "Richard Mergner" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 07:35:58 EDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Richard Mergner" SD List members, Raymund or Sascha; I've just D/L Sounddiver 2.08r1 and the Multi-editor Parts, allows only A or B to be selected, no C or D. Is the Multi-editor still in development? Using latest VOS 2.51. thanks. Rich Mergner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 14:07:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: pcc180@hotmail.com Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:52:10 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >I've just D/L Sounddiver 2.08r1 and the Multi-editor Parts, allows only A or B to be selected, no C or D. Is the Multi-editor still in development? Are you running Mac or Windows? I could mail you the latest version... With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 15:12:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:39:13 +0330 (GMT+03:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new access page WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Woow! 48000 Hits! I was already very pleased with the 1200 Hits my EVP page had! And the 50000th, does he get a prize? :-) Dimitri >Oh syes, I do, I just wanted to give credit to access for their own >page, since it's they who are doing the great job of maintaining the >www.access-music.de website...! >thank you very much for the compliment non the less, It's always >great to see that my work is appreciated. over 48000 hits in 1.5 >years make me think that my work makes some sense...;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 15:00:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:16:21 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Hey Richard , Im not sure if i understand you right but i think you are asking why you cant overwrite Bank C and D . This is cause they are for the preset patches that you cant overwrite. I hope thats the answer youre looking for . If i missunderstood you im sorry . Reagards Oli Richard Mergner schrieb: >* From "Richard Mergner" > >SD List members, Raymund or Sascha; > >I've just D/L Sounddiver 2.08r1 and the Multi-editor Parts, allows only A or B to be selected, no C or D. Is the Multi-editor still in development? Using latest VOS 2.51. > >thanks. > >Rich Mergner > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 15:47:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:42:39 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Noise problem! X-Sender: 055315711-0001@t-dialin.net From: OGraubohm@t-online.de (Oliver Graubohm) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From OGraubohm@t-online.de (Oliver Graubohm) Hi access-list member! I just figured out that my virus is the no.1 noise-maker in my setup- and I can't figure out why!! My efforts to reduce the noise: I plugged the virus direct to my mixer (Mackie MS 1402)- I normally let the signal run via a batchbay. I tried all mixer inputs. I checked severall audio-cables between virus and mixer. I used a different socket. I tried it in Multi-, Single and Multi-Single-Mode- no difference. I plugged out the input-cables. Besides the Virus, I use more or less Lo-Fi-equipment as Kawai K1 II, Quasimidi Technox, Yamaha TX 81Z, Sequential Circuits Prophet 2002 and MAM MB 33. They all together don't cause more noise than the Virus itself!! Any suggestions? Oliver Graubohm ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 15:49:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:47:19 +0200 Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 07:35:58 EDT, Richard Mergner wrote: >* From "Richard Mergner" I've just D/L Sounddiver 2.08r1 and the Multi-editor Parts, allows only A or B to be selected, no C or D. Is the Multi-editor still in development? Using latest VOS 2.51. Looks as though you're running an older version. The VIRUS did not always have four banks, it started off with just two (and might end up with...). CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 18:35:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mikael Hansson" To: Subject: Re: Noise problem! Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:34:05 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mikael Hansson" >* From OGraubohm@t-online.de (Oliver Graubohm) > >Hi access-list member! > >I just figured out that my virus is the no.1 noise-maker in my setup- and I can't figure out why!! Make sure Input Global Boost and Input Global DirectThru are set to zero. Maybe not your problem but worth checking out. /Micke ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 17:41:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "t@nk3" To: Subject: Re: Noise problem! Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:43:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "t@nk3" yep that«s right...i have similar problems..... the virus is really some kinda noisy...don«t know why either..... cheerz mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver Graubohm To: Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 2:42 PM Subject: Noise problem! >* From OGraubohm@t-online.de (Oliver Graubohm) > >Hi access-list member! > >I just figured out that my virus is the no.1 noise-maker in my setup- and I can't >figure out why!! > >My efforts to reduce the noise: >I plugged the virus direct to my mixer (Mackie MS 1402)- I normally let the >signal run via a batchbay. >I tried all mixer inputs. >I checked severall audio-cables between virus and mixer. I used a different socket. >I tried it in Multi-, Single and Multi-Single-Mode- no difference. I plugged out the input-cables. > >Besides the Virus, I use more or less Lo-Fi-equipment as Kawai K1 II, Quasimidi >Technox, Yamaha TX 81Z, Sequential Circuits Prophet 2002 and MAM MB 33. They all >together don't cause more noise than the Virus itself!! > >Any suggestions? > >Oliver Graubohm > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 18:47:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Noise problem! Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:45:45 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >yep that«s right...i have similar problems..... the virus is really some kinda noisy...don«t know why either..... Strange...it's quite clean for me. It's my Polysix which gives me radio russia sometimes :-) Isn't there a volume set too high or whatever? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 20:38:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.206.25.23] From: "Richard Mergner" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 14:35:58 EDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Richard Mergner" From: Oliver Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:16:21 +0200 * From Oliver Hey Richard , Im not sure if i understand you right but i think you are asking why you cant overwrite Bank C and D . This is cause they are for the preset patches that you cant overwrite. I hope thats the answer youre looking for . If i missunderstood you im sorry . Reagards Oli Richard Mergner schrieb: >* From "Richard Mergner" > >SD List members, Raymund or Sascha; > >I've just D/L Sounddiver 2.08r1 and the Multi-editor Parts, allows only A or B to be selected, no C or D. Is the Multi-editor still in development? Using latest VOS 2.51. > >thanks. > >Rich Mergner > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** Oliver, I can't select the preset C(128) or D(128) parts in the multi-editor of the virus adapation that was bundled with V 2.0.8r1/Mac. Only A or B are avaiable. Can you verify this for me. Thank you, Richard Mergner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 21:56:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 22:12:48 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Sorry , Richard i cant . Because i have an older version of sounddiver for PC. But theres at least one Emagic guy on the list . He should be able to help you . But would not make me wonder if youre right . I have only problems with sounddiver , and im not the only one . Anyway i hope you can fix it . Regards Oli Richard Mergner schrieb: >* From "Richard Mergner" > >>From: Oliver >>Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:16:21 +0200 >> >>* From Oliver >> >>Hey Richard , >> >>Im not sure if i understand you right but i think you are asking why you cant >>overwrite >>Bank C and D . This is cause they are for the preset patches that you cant overwrite. >>I hope thats the answer youre looking for . If i missunderstood you im sorry . >> >>Reagards >>Oli >> >>Richard Mergner schrieb: >> >>>* From "Richard Mergner" >>> >>>SD List members, Raymund or Sascha; >>> >>>I've just D/L Sounddiver 2.08r1 and the Multi-editor Parts, allows only >>A or >>>B to be selected, no C or D. Is the Multi-editor still in development? Using latest VOS 2.51. >>> >>>thanks. >>> >>>Rich Mergner >>> >>>______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, >>and >>>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >>is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ >><** >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > >Oliver, I can't select the preset C(128) or D(128) parts in the multi-editor of the virus adapation that was bundled with V 2.0.8r1/Mac. Only A or B are avaiable. Can you verify this for me. > >Thank you, > >Richard Mergner > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 22:38:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Wilco Agterhuis" To: Subject: Re: Virus waves Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:35:51 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Wilco Agterhuis" Hi, I would like to know where the intenal waves of the virus are comming from. For a number of them I can recognize a sax, E-piano, E-organ, etc, so probably they are samples, or taken from another synth. If they are samples, a list of the sample names would be helpfull in choosing and selecting a wave. Names would give me a better overview than numbers from 1 to 63. Does someone has this information ? Access ? Wilco. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: K.9 Kai Niggemann Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 3 september 1999 11:39 Onderwerp: Re: Virus waves >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 10:06 AM +0200 on 03.09.1999 Envelope Generator wrote: >>Oh GOD! all my work on CANINE page :o)))) >> >>Look originals on http://envelope.underground.sk/vwaves/vwaves.htm > > > > >thanks a lot, and no it's not all of your work as I realized now, I missed wave 51. So folks, you are going to have to take a look at the above page to get the whole view...;-) > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 23:11:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Malcolm Ferguson To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Virus waves Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:04:25 -0400 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Malcolm Ferguson The waves in the Virus are physical models of waves from analog synthesizers. The virus mathematically computes it's waves from scratch, so there are no samples used. That is why the sounds are so organic and thick, because they can vary infinitely at a micro level. Cheers, Mac >-----Original Message----- >From: Wilco Agterhuis [mailto:wagthuis@westbrabant.net] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:36 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Virus waves > > >* From "Wilco Agterhuis" > >Hi, > >I would like to know where the intenal waves of the virus are comming from. >For a number of them I can recognize a sax, E-piano, E-organ, etc, so probably they are samples, or taken from another synth. If they are samples, >a list of the sample names would be helpfull in choosing and selecting a >wave. Names would give me a better overview than numbers from 1 to 63. Does someone has this information ? Access ? > >Wilco. > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: K.9 Kai Niggemann Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 3 september 1999 11:39 >Onderwerp: Re: Virus waves > > >>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>At 10:06 AM +0200 on 03.09.1999 Envelope Generator wrote: >>>Oh GOD! all my work on CANINE page :o)))) >>> >>>Look originals on http://envelope.underground.sk/vwaves/vwaves.htm >> >> >> >> >>thanks a lot, and no it's not all of your work as I realized now, I missed wave 51. So folks, you are going to have to take a look at the above page to get the whole view...;-) >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >----------- >>canine@waf80.de good >night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------- >----------- >>_____________________________________________________________ >______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service >of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ >for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - >please read it! >>**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: >http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> > >______________________________________________________________ _____________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 23:12:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 14:11:15 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: guitar -> virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp if any of you are suffering from a creative block, pick up your guitar (or get a guitar-playing friend) and plug it into the virus (maybe via a mixer). set up an input patch, and start playing with the saturation, chorus, delay, and *filters*. The Virus may very well be the most flexible (and expensive) wah pedal in existence. -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 9 23:22:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.206.25.14] From: "Richard Mergner" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 17:19:49 EDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Richard Mergner" From: Oliver Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SD 2.0.8/Virus Multi adaptation Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 22:12:48 +0200 * From Oliver Sorry , Richard i cant . Because i have an older version of sounddiver for PC. But theres at least one Emagic guy on the list . He should be able to help you . But would not make me wonder if youre right . I have only problems with sounddiver , and im not the only one . Anyway i hope you can fix it . Regards Oli Thanks , got a reply from Sascha Kujawa, will get the newest adaptation. v/r Rich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 00:21:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: new access page Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:56:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >It's always >great to see that my work is appreciated. over 48000 hits in 1.5 years make me think that my work makes some sense...;-) With that number of hits, you're probably getting most of them looking for info on: a) Access = data base b) Virus = nasty little programs Could there be a special reason why the guys chose this name for their company and product ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 00:21:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus waves Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:18:46 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >The waves in the Virus are physical models of waves from analog synthesizers. The virus mathematically computes it's waves from scratch, so there are no samples used. That is why the sounds are so organic and thick, because they can vary infinitely at a micro level. I think Wilco was asking about the many static waves. They sound like summed sines to me. Or maybe 2-op FM.? If not, that might be a good idea. Would be interesting to find out... Was sind denn die zusŠtzlichen Wellen, Christoph? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 00:50:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 19:01:52 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw Malcolm I thinks hes referring to the formant waves, which will be interesting to hear christoph explain how they did them?? weld Malcolm Ferguson wrote: >* From Malcolm Ferguson > >The waves in the Virus are physical models of waves from analog synthesizers. The virus mathematically computes it's waves from scratch, so there are no samples used. That is why the sounds are so organic and thick, because they can vary infinitely at a micro level. > >Cheers, >Mac > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Wilco Agterhuis [mailto:wagthuis@westbrabant.net] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:36 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: Virus waves >> >> >>* From "Wilco Agterhuis" >> >>Hi, >> >>I would like to know where the intenal waves of the virus are comming from. >>For a number of them I can recognize a sax, E-piano, E-organ, etc, so probably they are samples, or taken from another synth. If they are samples, >>a list of the sample names would be helpfull in choosing and selecting a >>wave. Names would give me a better overview than numbers from 1 to 63. Does someone has this information ? Access ? >> >>Wilco. >> >> >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>Van: K.9 Kai Niggemann Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 3 september 1999 11:39 >>Onderwerp: Re: Virus waves >> >> >>>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >>> >>>At 10:06 AM +0200 on 03.09.1999 Envelope Generator wrote: >>>>Oh GOD! all my work on CANINE page :o)))) >>>> >>>>Look originals on http://envelope.underground.sk/vwaves/vwaves.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>thanks a lot, and no it's not all of your work as I realized now, I missed wave 51. So folks, you are going to have to take a look at the above page to get the whole view...;-) >>> >>>think different! >>> >>>Canine >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>----------- >>>canine@waf80.de good >>night europe. >>>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>----------- >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>______________ >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service >>of TekLab, and >>>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ >>for this list is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - >>please read it! >>>**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: >>http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >>> >> >>______________________________________________________________ _____________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 01:17:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:16:02 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Malcolm >I thinks hes referring to the formant waves, which will be interesting to hear christoph explain how they did them?? >weld hmmm ... I thought he was referring to the sweater his grandmother gave to him for his birthday last year. I'm curious how she knitted it... ;-) zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 03:05:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:59:43 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi there list, I wrote an environment for Logic that randomizes sections of the Virus one by one, or everything at once. From the readme: What is Canine Virus Randomize 1.1? Canine Virus Randomize (CVR) is an Environment for Emagic's Logic which creates random sounds for the synthesizer Access Virus. How does it work? CVR creates random MIDI controllers that are sent to the Virus. With CVR you have the option to alter every parameter that is connected to CVR ("World Destruction Machine") or to only randomize certain sections of the Virus at a time: Filter, FX, AMP, LFO or OSC. it's available from my page in the download section, follow the link to "utilities" (or click on the front-page link instead...) enjoy and please tell me what you think... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 03:10:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:04:42 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: new access page Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:56 PM +0200 on 09.09.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >It's always >great to see that my work is appreciated. over 48000 hits in 1.5 years make me think that my work makes some sense...;-) With that number of hits, you're probably getting most of them looking for info on: a) Access = data base b) Virus = nasty little programs Could there be a special reason why the guys chose this name for their company and product ;-) Actually since the increase in hits is directly proportional to things like a mention in Keys magazine, or traffic on this list about things like a new OS, I believe that my meta tags are working fine and people know what to expect when the page comes up in a search engin... oops, a bit on the OT side here...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 04:03:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:59:26 EDT Subject: Virus filters To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Access Staff- Hi there. I used to have an old analog Roland SH-09 which featured an Envelope Follower function (filter responds to the varying volume levels of the ext. in and ADSR settings). While this synth was very, very limited; this was a nice little feature that I have seen on a few other synths. My question: is this possible to add to the Virus? I realize it would probably have to be a menu function, maybe such as: {Filter Follower: Off, -64 - +64} with +64 being the amount to vary the filter with the ext. in and ADSR; and -64 being the amount opposite of the ext. in and ADSR. Or, maybe even just an LFO Follower to the ext. in? All this comes from being confined to the 64 wave shapes as ways to sweep the filters and such in a loop fashion. I know 64 is a lot, but about half are not very "musical" (at least for my needs). I hope I've said all of this clearly. Thanks in advance. Keep up the excellent work! p.s. - are there any plans for a 2.51+ OS anytime soon? Return-path: VirusMPC@aol.com From: VirusMPC@aol.com Full-name: VirusMPC Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:58:47 EDT Subject: Virus filters To: CKe9644719@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Hi there. I used to have an old analog Roland SH-09 which featured an Envelope Follower function (filter responds to the varying volume levels of the ext. in and ADSR settings). While this synth was very, very limited; this was a nice little feature that I have seen on a few other synths. My question: is this possible to add to the Virus? I realize it would probably have to be a menu function; maybe such as, {Filter Follower: Off, -64 - +64} with +64 being the amount to vary the filter with the ext. in and ADSR, and -64 being the amount opposite of the ext. in and ADSR. Or, maybe even just an LFO Follower to the ext. in? All this comes from being confined to the 64 wave shapes as ways to sweep the filters and such. I know 64 is a lot, but about half are not very "musical". I hope I've said all of this clearly. Thanks in advance. Keep up the excellent work! - Jesse p.s. - are there any plans for a 2.51+ OS anytime soon?X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 05:13:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:11:16 EDT Subject: help please!!!!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com i can't get my single mode to work, my multi mode is just fine. i can't even switch programs via midi with my digital performer. i did initialize it but nothing. thanks for your help..... mike ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 05:23:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: guitar -> virus Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:19:29 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Access, Zack, people, >set up an input patch, and start playing with the saturation, chorus, delay, and *filters*. The Virus may very well be the most flexible (and expensive) wah pedal in existence. Great big huge wish for Access : Envelope following from input! To make eg auto-wah. And if that's not enough... pitch following also? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 05:09:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:05:07 -0700 From: "Killah B's" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Pros/Cons Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Killah B's" Hi, i'm new to this list... I'm considering on purchasing an Access Virus... my other consideration is a NordRack2, or Korg z1 (if i can still find one) I'm using for my techsteppy jungle/drum and bass productions... can any users tell me if the VIRUS is a good synth for making lush pads, intricate strings, and distorted/crazy basslines? thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 09:31:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 10 Sep 1999 07:27:47 -0000 From: Snorre Vestvold Ruch To: access-list@teklab.com User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 X-Originating-IP: 158.38.111.123 Subject: Re:Triggers Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Snorre Vestvold Ruch Hi! Yes, I could use the AUX bus for refiltering, but it is akward and I often want to LFO/envelope other parameters than filters. I just hoped I could trigger the LFOs in Env-mode from sequenser. ...Or at least clock-sync a LFO in Env-mode and be able to change it's rate. I cant see the logic in Env-mode for the LFOs sync'ed to clock when they just run normally. I would even want a LFO trigger-mode that defines that LFO only triggers when resieving a certain MIDI message. I know the *workarounds*, but they often make my MIDIcables glow, and take time to program... krupP Quoting dimi@dds.nl: >* From dimi@dds.nl > > >Hello! > >If you use the LFO/Env Synced for e.g. filter, you could >create a patch with no OSC, but with the Filter/LFO. Use >this as an internal effect: The patches' output with osc (or >external sound) you want to use must be sent to it. > >So, in fact you split you patch up to two patches. > >Dimitri. > >>Beautifull friends! >> >>How can I trigger LFOs in envelope-mode from my sequencer without repressing keys? >> >>And: Should not the LFO-rate work when LFO are synced to >>clock and in Env-mode? >> >>I really can't figure it out... I need to retrigger something without repressing a key. Could the filter-envelope or LFOs be triggered by MIDI? I know LFOs can, but only while synced to clock, and then they are running anyways. >> >>Any ideas? >> >>Best regards! >> >>krupP > >_____________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 09:26:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: dserrini@pop.mindspring.com Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:49:59 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Daniel Serrini Subject: Re: Pros/Cons Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Daniel Serrini Owning both of these synths (Virus and Z1), maybe I can help with your delema. I know, I've been there (thats why I have them both). Can the virus make lush pads? Yes, and they sound sweet. Intricate strings, well I does awsome "analog strings" but if your looking for something closer to authentic then the Z1 is the choice. As for distortion, the Z1 achieves this much more readilly. Especially with it's feedback loop capabilities. The virus can indeed get some distortion types of effects. The filters on the virus are first class and probubly the most powerful I have ever experienced in any synth. If I were given a choice of the two, the Virus would win. It has a much broader sound than the Z1, its construction is by far the best of any synth I experienced and the way the knobs feel are awsome. The z1 is incredible too, its keyboard feels great (my favorite of the lot). The XY pad is worth having alone and gives you the ability to morph the sound in ways you never thought possible. Its much more difficult to program than the Virus. Which is another reason the Virus is excellent. I would say, wait for the Virus kb/ Virus b to hit, save up and get one. That will keep you intruged for quite some time while your saving up to buy a used Z1. As for the nord, its a great synth. Dryer than the virus, (no effects), and pound for pound the Virus has more features and capabilities. My band mate, is considering getting the nord. I think its great as well. Don't forget to twist. Dan http://www.partikle.com At 11:05 PM 9/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From "Killah B's" > >Hi, i'm new to this list... > >I'm considering on purchasing an Access Virus... my other consideration is a NordRack2, >or Korg z1 (if i can still find one) > >I'm using for my techsteppy jungle/drum and bass productions... > >can any users tell me if the VIRUS is a good synth for making lush pads, intricate >strings, and distorted/crazy basslines? > >thanks > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 10:41:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:35:51 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Pros/Cons Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I tried out the Z1 in a store and I must tell you that I am not a fan of Korg instruments (other than the MS-20...;-) I find that tweaking sounds takes too long for a modern synth. Of course it depends what you are into, but for me the Virus (even though it doesn't do "real" sounds like orchestra etc. as the Z1 probably does very well) is a much nicer choice. The virus is great for pads and strings, the modulation matrix or just the 64 waves you can use for the LFO can make the sounds so incredibly complex, it#s wonderful. The distortion ("Saturation") of the Virus is cause for a lot of FAQs: it sports 5 settings: soft, light, medium, hard, digital and shaper. This has lead many to believe that it is a bit static. This is not the case. The OSC volume knob (that is also active for this purpose in Ext In mode) is a bipolar parameter. The normal range is -64 - 0 which is maximum volume. Everything from 0 - +63 distorts the filter, slowly saturating it more with every little number the value is increased... enjoy....it's pretty wild... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 15:08:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Malcolm Ferguson To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Virus waves Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:01:21 -0400 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Malcolm Ferguson Really?! I've been robbed!! Dial 911!! ;) >-----Original Message----- >From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 5:54 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Virus waves > > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 09.09.99 22:22:28 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>The waves in the Virus are physical models of waves from analog synthesizers. The virus mathematically computes it's waves >from scratch, so >>there are no samples used. That is why the sounds are so >organic and thick, >>because they can vary infinitely at a micro level. >> > >No, the spectral waves are simple samples. But still those waves can be full >of life if a synth reads them in a special way :) > >Ciao >Christoph >______________________________________________________________ _____________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 15:40:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:40:55 +0200 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: help please!!!!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martijn Baan MYKE7777@aol.com schreef: >* From MYKE7777@aol.com > >i can't get my single mode to work, my multi mode is just fine. i can't even switch programs via midi with my digital performer. i did initialize it but nothing. >thanks for your help..... >mike >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** Hi there, Two things are the problem as far as i can imagine: Your masterkeyboard sends midi data (note on's) to your sequencer on a different midichannel then you have set your sequencer on. Or your midi global channel (when your in single mode, in the midi settings the third option of the control section) is set to another midi channel. Try to set it to global midi channel 1, your keyboard must send out at 1 also. And put your sequencer at (if you work with one) midi channel 1. Hope it works for you. Let me know. Martijn Baan Bean-inc@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 16:17:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Logic and MIDI Clock in cycle mode Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:02:34 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< Anyone ever experienced trouble when syncing Virus to Logic's MIDIClock while running in cycle mode (clicks)? Just wantet to tell you that we could track down a problem we had in former versions. The current Logic 4.0 versions are working fine. This means Logic Audio Mac 4.0.2 and Windows 4.0.3. Btw, I expect the next sub release on monday, 13.09.99, to be available via www.emagic.de With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 10 23:31:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:42:20 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Pros/Cons Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw simple answer: go hear em and pick your favorite weld Killah B's wrote: >* From "Killah B's" > >Hi, i'm new to this list... > >I'm considering on purchasing an Access Virus... my other consideration is a NordRack2, or Korg z1 (if i can still find one) > >I'm using for my techsteppy jungle/drum and bass productions... > >can any users tell me if the VIRUS is a good synth for making lush pads, intricate strings, and distorted/crazy basslines? > >thanks > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 11 00:44:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Wilco Agterhuis" To: Subject: Re: Virus waves Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:38:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Wilco Agterhuis" Thanks for the answers. I was indeed referring to the 64 internal spectral waves. Is there a list available of the original samples you selected? I think the power of the waves is under-estimated in creating sounds, maybe because it is difficult to have an overview of all the waves by just a number (1 to 64). So my suggestion is to replace the number of the wave by the name of the sample that was used for it (like sax, rhodes, etc). (but I also can imagine that the extra memory that will be necessary for this can be used for other cool things) Please give your comment. Bye Wilco > >Those are one-cycle loops of several samples that we selected. The character >of the original sample was different, the selection of the original sample was sort of arbitrary. > >Ciao >Christoph ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 11 12:53:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:39:38 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:38 AM +0200 on 11.09.1999 Wilco Agterhuis wrote: I was indeed referring to the 64 internal spectral waves. Is there a list available of the original samples you selected? I think the power of the waves is under-estimated in creating sounds, maybe because it is difficult to have an overview of all the waves by just a number (1 to 64). So my suggestion is to replace the number of the wave by the name of the sample that was used for it (like sax, rhodes, etc). (but I also can imagine that the extra memory that will be necessary for this can be used for other cool things) Please give your comment. I put a list of all the waves on my website (see signature of this posting), but they are only numbered and graphed from an oscilloscope. Fun to look at, but the images don't really give you much of a clue what they sound like. It is kinda useful for using the spectral waves as LFO waves though. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 11 03:13:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:08:59 EDT Subject: Re: Virus waves To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Pics of the wave shapes are availible for viewing/download on Canine's website. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 11 19:56:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "a l i + +" To: Subject: Re: Virus waves Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:45:33 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "a l i + +" 1 pogrom 2 klanger 3 fricative 4 harmolodic 5 bokassa 6 shaku 7 pastorius 8 stanford 9 broadband 10 chainsaw 11 orthogonal 12 mayonnaise 13 cornucopia 14 phase 15 descent 16 dollyrocker 17 whooper 18 murnau 19 carpenter 20 catholic 21 bubblebobble 22 magnifier 23 blaster 24 ornette 25 spinach 26 lsd 27 chili 28 mariobros 29 sloppy 30 glass 31 haircut 32 blockbuster 33 ontherun 34 labial 35 bleepo 36 summa 37 seagull 38 plastic 39 static 40 eerie 41 autechre 42 elephant 43 burda 44 ringer 45 sink 46 squasher 47 uberwella 48 wealldie 49 additive 50 logarhythm 51 vacuum 52 boat 53 navayo 54 bark 55 papeete 56 dynamo 57 turboboost 58 gamelan 59 further 60 goat 61 champagne 62 snapper 63 warmcover 64 sine ali ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 11 21:24:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:22:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Virus waves From: "Eloy Anzola" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eloy Anzola" >Maybe some of yours creates nice fantasy names for the Waves, give us a sample. 2 cents worth: I like the fact that the waves are numbered and not named, I understand it's not as friendly, but just looking at the picture of a wave gives me an idea of how it will sound... a triangle-like shape will sound like..., well, a triangle wave, some buzz on it; a square wave will have more buzz, a sine no harmonics... etc...etc... Maybe I'm just breing snooty, there is something about using numbers instead of names, that feels more electronic, more synthetist and less commercial. In other words, I can't really play so I need those things... Weirdest message, I know... but well... All the best. Eloy ------ leaddaet@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 12 03:16:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "H.LŸbker" To: Subject: Sv: Virus waves Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 03:09:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "=?iso-8859-1?B?SC5M/GJrZXI=?=" I agree. I think it is easy to feel pressured into: "Ohh, this is a bell-sound I better use that and only that for my bell sounds." There is something wonderfull in walking up to a synth and start creating sounds without any other tool than your imagination. As always, fast forward the future Henrik LŸbker -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Eloy Anzola Til: access-list@teklab.com Dato: 11. september 1999 21:43 Emne: Re: Virus waves >* From "Eloy Anzola" > >>Maybe some of yours creates nice fantasy names for the Waves, give us a sample. > >2 cents worth: > >I like the fact that the waves are numbered and not named, > >I understand it's not as friendly, but just looking at the picture of a wave gives me an idea of how it will sound... a triangle-like shape will sound like..., well, a triangle wave, some buzz on it; a square wave will have more buzz, a sine no harmonics... etc...etc... > >Maybe I'm just breing snooty, there is something about using numbers instead of names, that feels more electronic, more synthetist and less commercial. > >In other words, I can't really play so I need those things... > >Weirdest message, I know... but well... > >All the best. > >Eloy >------ >leaddaet@earthlink.net >http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 12 07:41:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Virus waves Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:35:50 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi people, >I was indeed referring to the 64 internal spectral waves. Is there a list available of the original samples you selected? I think the power of the waves is under-estimated in creating sounds, maybe because it is difficult to have an overview of all the waves by just a number (1 to 64). I'd like a list of names for the waves... Not neccesarily in the machine but something I can print out maybe? I don't use the waves much because I find it difficult to navigate the numbers. So names would be helpful. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 12 16:17:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:48:39 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:35 PM +1200 on 12.09.1999 Thomas Whitmore wrote: I'd like a list of names for the waves... Not neccesarily in the machine but something I can print out maybe? I don't use the waves much because I find it difficult to navigate the numbers. So names would be helpful. just go to my website and look at the documentation page. there si a chart with all the waves in it. It's HTML, so you can just take this chart and replace the numbers with your own names or just print out the chart the way it is and look at the waveshapes. have fun think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 12 11:39:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: stephens@pop.ricochet.net Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 02:32:40 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Ron Stephens Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ron Stephens WELL HELL GUYS! Cristoph says, "give me names", and Ali gives some pretty good names, and you guys ignore him! What's the deal with THAT? Good going, Ali! -ron ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 12 13:00:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Virus waves Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:54:34 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" Great Ali ;-) just practising to list them by heart ... -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ron Stephens An: Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. September 1999 11:32 Betreff: Re: Virus waves >* From Ron Stephens > >WELL HELL GUYS! > >Cristoph says, "give me names", and Ali gives some pretty good names, and you guys ignore him! > >What's the deal with THAT? Good going, Ali! -ron > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 01:24:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:24:23 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" >Christoph - are the extra LFO waves samples as well? BTW: I'd still like them to be a lot less smooth (e.g. staircases, multiple ramps etc). I don't use them at all for this very reason. The extra LFO waves *are* the oscillator waves. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 12 22:04:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: Virus B. Is it out in the UK? Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:39:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" Hi, I've been trying to get hold of this Virus B over here in London, but nobody seems to know anything about it, a guy in Turnkey did tell me that they could get hold of the Virus kB if i wanted it but didn't know anything about the Virus B. So, is it actually out yet? Does anyone know when it will be out here in the UK (if it isn't already)??? Cheers T. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 04:38:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:35:55 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus waves Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >The waves for LFO's are the same table as for the oscillators. So it was quite easy to realise this feature. Thus we are not sad that they might not be useful all the time. Just for fun. I couldn't have done my hand clap patch without this feature. Very useful to have an irregular but repeatable LFO waveform. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 12 22:02:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus waves Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:00:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Christoph - are the extra LFO waves samples as well? BTW: I'd still like them to be a lot less smooth (e.g. staircases, multiple ramps etc). I don't use them at all for this very reason. No rollerblades necessary... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 05:44:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:41:48 EDT Subject: MIDI Controll method To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Hello. Say I want to controll certain parameters in the Virus with (for example) a LFO from another synth; is the best method for doing this using the assign source (say controller 3 maybe) function of the Virus, or is there a better method? Any tips are appreciated. Thanx! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 12:41:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Andrew Dick" To: Subject: RE: Pros/Cons Access Virus Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:36:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Andrew Dick" >* From "Killah B's" > >Hi, i'm new to this list... > >I'm considering on purchasing an Access Virus... my other consideration is a NordRack2, >or Korg z1 (if i can still find one) > >I'm using for my techsteppy jungle/drum and bass productions... > >can any users tell me if the VIRUS is a good synth for making lush pads, intricate >strings, and distorted/crazy basslines? > >thanks Hi, I write a fair bit of tech-step trax myself in my madder moments. I've found for really violent 'no u-turn' style distorted basslines, the virus rocks (no external processing needed). It takes a while to get to the sound, but it can certainly have *that* distinctive low-end gut-churning punch! If you're into the 'industrial' type of tech step, you also get a large number of metallic-type source waves which ooze harmonics when distorted. The virus is also great at fat/rich/distorted pad and strings, but for the usual ambient type jungle pads, sample-based synths tend to be better/easier. It just depends how much work you're willing to put in... Not too sure when it comes to comparisons, but I get the impression that the virus is more powerful than the Nord. As for the z1 - I don't think it sounds as interesting - also the OS isn't as instant / hands on. I'd give them all a go, but I reckon the virus is the complete solution. Cheers, Andy ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 14:50:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:20:55 +0200 Subject: Programm changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Hi everyone, When playing on my MIDI Keyboard I always get program changes in my Virus. I have set the filter for program changes to "on" in my sequencer, but this didn't make a change. Is there something I have to set on the Keyboard ? I don't want to set the parameter to "off" in the Virus, because I still want to receive program changes from my Seq. (Cubase) Please give me some help, this is driving me crazy. regards JAY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne représente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 15:32:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:26:08 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: RE: Pros/Cons Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From "Andrew Dick" > >I write a fair bit of tech-step trax myself in my madder moments. I've found for really violent 'no u-turn' style distorted basslines, the virus rocks (no external processing needed). hey, why not upload a patch or two to canine's site? mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 18:51:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:21:50 +0200 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guido Storek Hi Kai. "K.9 Kai Niggemann" schrieb: > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Hi there list, > >I wrote an environment for Logic that randomizes sections of the Virus one by one, or everything at once. From the readme: > >What is Canine Virus Randomize 1.1? >Canine Virus Randomize (CVR) is an Environment for Emagic's Logic which creates random sounds for the synthesizer Access Virus. > >How does it work? >CVR creates random MIDI controllers that are sent to the Virus. With CVR you have the option to alter every parameter that is connected to CVR ("World Destruction Machine") or to only randomize certain sections of the Virus at a time: Filter, FX, AMP, LFO or OSC. > >it's available from my page in the download section, follow the link to "utilities" (or click on the front-page link instead...) > >enjoy and please tell me what you think... > Sounds interesting. Can«t u do a stand alone prg.? -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 18:51:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:43:34 +0200 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Pros/Cons Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guido Storek Hi there. Killah B's schrieb: > >* From "Killah B's" > >Hi, i'm new to this list... > >I'm considering on purchasing an Access Virus... my other consideration is a NordRack2, or Korg z1 (if i can still find one) > >I'm using for my techsteppy jungle/drum and bass productions... > >can any users tell me if the VIRUS is a good synth for making lush pads, intricate strings, and distorted/crazy basslines? > I read all the answers to your question but I had to see that nobody mentioned Yamaha«s FS1R. First of all: I love my Virus. It«s a great virtual analog synth. I can«t say anything about the NordRack 2, ...have«nt checked it yet. U mentioned the Z1, which is totally different to pure virtual analog synths. Just like the FS1R. For about 1000 $ u can get one of the most flexible synths ever. Go to my examples-page at http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.html and download the FS1R demo song or any other one containing FS1R-sounds. If u want to know more, send me a private mail. carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 19:31:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Programm changes Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:28:22 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Hi Jason If you tick "Program change"/"Programmwechsel" in the "Thru" part of Cubase's MIDI filter, you won't be changing programs from the MIDI input. Are you sure you're doing exactly that? >* From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com >When playing on my MIDI Keyboard I always get program changes in my Virus. I have set the filter for program changes to "on" in my sequencer, but this didn't make a change. Is there something I have to set on the Keyboard ? I don't want to set the parameter to "off" in the Virus, because I still want to receive program changes from my Seq. (Cubase) >Please give me some help, this is driving me crazy. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 19:34:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:32:45 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Programm changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >When playing on my MIDI Keyboard I always get program changes in my Virus. I have set the filter for program changes to "on" in my sequencer, but this didn't make a change. Is there something I have to set on the Keyboard ? I don't want to set the parameter to "off" in the Virus, >because I still want to receive program changes from my Seq. (Cubase) my Alesis QS7 has a "MIDI PRG CHG" option that I turn off for this very reason. Check your keyboard docs. zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 19:43:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:33:44 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:21 PM +0200 on 13.09.1999 Guido Storek wrote: Sounds interesting. Can«t u do a stand alone prg.? Not yet. But I'd like to in the future. I will let the list know. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 19:53:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:50:44 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: virus idea of the day Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Have you ever used the AUX busses in the Virus? Maybe it's time you started... 1) Go into Multi-Single mode, part 1 2) Create/Select a patch 3) Toward the beginning of the EDIT menu, set the OUTPUT to AUX 1+2 4) It may be handy to assign your modulation wheel to filter cutoff for this patch, but do whatever you want 5) Go to multi part 2 6) Select a basic INPUT patch 7) Toward the end of the EDIT menu, set INPUT to AUX 1+2 and INPUT MODE to STATIC (for now ... but by all means throw it on dynamic later for neat staccato effects!) 8) Tweak the heck out of it (filters, distortion, etc, etc) 9) Maybe you want to put your mod wheel on filter CUTOFF here? Get your sequencer running, send some notes to part 1, and record some controller changes. Switch your sequencer (and the Virus) to part 2, and while part 1 is playing (looped?), try tweaking the filter, etc and see how amazing the sounds are. Note that there are TWO stereo aux busses in the virus -- which can also be addressed as FOUR mono busses. Imagine -- a chain of 10(!) filters, 5 distortions, 5 delays, 5 choruses etc. making noise for 1 patch. zs (loves his virus) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 22:39:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:43:44 -0400 Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? From: "Eloy Anzola" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eloy Anzola" I would be more that happy to build an stand alone app., using MAX, to randomize the parameters. There is a catch, however. I hope to buy a Virus KB as soon as it's possible in the US, however, I don't own a Virus. But if I'm told, or directed to, what midi controlers to randomize, and what ranges (if diff. than 0-127), it should be fairly easy to do. Please E-Mail me if interested. Regards, Eloy ------ leaddaet@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 22:46:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:04:03 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Hey , I think it isnt necessary to write a randomizer . Or didnt Christoph announce one for the next upgrade? Regards Oli "K.9 Kai Niggemann" schrieb: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 6:21 PM +0200 on 13.09.1999 Guido Storek wrote: >>Sounds interesting. Can«t u do a stand alone prg.? > >Not yet. But I'd like to in the future. I will let the list know. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 13 23:48:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:47:27 -0400 From: norsez X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From norsez Hi Eloy, Dumb question: What is MAX? norsez Eloy Anzola wrote: > >* From "Eloy Anzola" > >I would be more that happy to build an stand alone app., using MAX, to randomize the parameters. > >There is a catch, however. I hope to buy a Virus KB as soon as it's possible in the US, however, I don't own a Virus. > >But if I'm told, or directed to, what midi controlers to randomize, and what ranges (if diff. than 0-127), it should be fairly easy to do. > >Please E-Mail me if interested. > >Regards, > >Eloy >------ >leaddaet@earthlink.net >http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 00:16:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:13:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Gatrall To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, norsez wrote: >* From norsez > >Dumb question: What is MAX? Basically it's an object oriented programming environment for dealling with MIDI, multimedia, or anything else you want. The Opcode version (it was originally developed at IRCAM) only runs on Macintoshes, but there is a port for the PC planned. There are also a set of extensions for doing realtime DSP called MSP. If you've ever wanted to develop an application that deals with MIDI, but you don't know how to program, or don't want to get bogged down in the details, Max might be for you. http://www.opcode.com/products/max/ http://www.cycling74.com/products/msp.html -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 03:40:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:42:34 -0400 Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? From: "Eloy Anzola" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eloy Anzola" >question: What is MAX? MAX is an object oriented programming enviroment, fucosing on MIDI and Audio. It was started at Ircam's in France, and ported to the Macintosh by David Zicarelli. It is extremly powerful and very open. Check it out at: http://www.cycling74.com http://www.node.net/max/ http://www.opcode.com Ircam: http://www.ircam.fr All the best, Eloy ------ leaddaet@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet ---------- >From: norsez >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? >Date: Mon, Sep 13, 1999, 5:47 PM > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 04:43:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: i42575@inet.uni2.dk Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:39:07 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Michael Subject: Is there a CUBASE list? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Michael Hi, can anyone tell me - if there's a CUBASE list like this one?? Michael/Denmark ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 05:24:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:25:35 -0400 Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? From: "Eloy Anzola" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eloy Anzola" Sorry sent one wrong URL The right address for the unoffical MAX & MSP page is: http://www.node.net/MAX/ Regards, Eloy ------ leaddaet@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 08:38:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:32:23 EDT Subject: Virus on eBay To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Here is a Virus on eBay if anyone is interested: eBay item 164250066 (Ends 09/20/99, 16:11:18 PDT) - Access Virus Simulated Anal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 09:00:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:58:30 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is there a CUBASE list? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore yes there is.. i am not on it though.. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 09:55:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:54:11 +0200 From: Jim Achen X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim Achen CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 13.09.99 21:51:51 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>I think it isnt necessary to write a randomizer . Or didnt Christoph announce >>one >>for the next upgrade? >> > >Yes, but this randomizer will be quite simple, why not having a more complex one? There are many ways to do randomizing, e.g. by separating the sections that are changed. This would be very memory consuming to do it in the Virus. I have one at my page (see link below). It's very simple but makes some weird sounds. Jim -- - --[ SUBSYSTEM 7 ]-- - http://www.danbbs.dk/~jim_omi/ - --[ AN1x / Virus ]-- - ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 10:14:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [207.140.10.3] From: "Mark Child" To: Subject: Re:Out of tune Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:11:41 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Can anybody help? I'm not sure whether or not its my virusÊor not? But, I'll play a sequence from beginning to end and my virus at some point in the sequence drops down a tone? My sequencer is a mpc2000. Help please!! Cheers.. Mark M.T.K www.mindthinkkick.freeserve.co.uk Email:-Mindthinkkick@hotmail.com Track of the month:- Maxim 'My Web' Catch M.T.K live 24th Sept @ Club Melt, Leigh Street, Wycombe. 1st Oct @ The White Horse, West Wycombe Rd. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 10:43:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:18:39 +0200 From: "hans w.koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random sounds anyone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hans w.koch" i would appreciate very much such a standalone app. i had one programmed with one of the very first versions of max, but it does not run under mac os 8.6. can«t buy a new version right now, saving for the max/msp bundle. the simplest way imho would be to have an app. that lets define you 10 -15 controllers and the same amount of polyaftertouch and than by just hitting one button get random values for them within a definable range. in the old max the user interface for this would look rather unsexy, but with the newer one could be more cool. there is also a quite sophisticated freeware called MIDI-formers, which lets chose you parameters and ranges and tendencies etc. to generate midicompositions via random-processes. its also a max-stanalone app.(sorry, pc-users) it can be found on the site of the music software - cometition in bourges/france (always worth checking, mac and pc). http://www.gmeb.fr/SoftwareCompetition/softftpsite.html regards hwk Eloy Anzola schrieb: >* From "Eloy Anzola" > >I would be more that happy to build an stand alone app., using MAX, to randomize the parameters. > >There is a catch, however. I hope to buy a Virus KB as soon as it's possible in the US, however, I don't own a Virus. > >But if I'm told, or directed to, what midi controlers to randomize, and what ranges (if diff. than 0-127), it should be fairly easy to do. > >Please E-Mail me if interested. > >Regards, > >Eloy >------ >leaddaet@earthlink.net >http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 15:09:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:07:38 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus on eBay Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco >item 164250066 (Ends 09/20/99, 16:11:18 PDT) - Access Virus Simulated Anal Did Christoph plan for the Virus to simulate this?? Ha ha... Mo ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 15:42:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:37:22 -0500 From: Rick Reyes Subject: FS: Access Virus $900 + shipping... To: access-list@teklab.com, digitalhell@resrocket.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes The Virus is in near mint condition. It comes with manual, power supply, extra wood side panels, and original packaging. I am asking $900 plus shipping. If interested let me know. If you are in the D/FW area, you can check it out in person... Rick supercow@swbell.net rreyes@vankoevering.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 18:00:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Thomas Hasan To: Subject: FS Access Virus DM 1900 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:54:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Hasan Hi, I've decided to sell my Virus because I'm moving locations and selling some synths; + the Virus is in excellent condition with version 2.51 installed, never gigged and used only in a non-smoking home studio environment + comes with original box, packaging, user manual and product brochures + will additionally provide the buyer with a custom CD which contains all docs & reference manuals (in English and German), a collection of great patches as well as some excellent freeware & shareware MIDI software & utilities that are an essential part of my studio -this CD is definitely *not* Virus-free! ;-) + asking DM 1900 + prefer to sell & ship within Germany (if you're in/near Munich/Bavaria, you can view it in person) + if you're in continental Europe and seeking a Virus, contact me as well and we can arrange something regards, Thomas PS and [OT]: also selling a mint condition Juno 106 w/ hardshell case + true analog sound with the always-in-tune convenience of DCOs + warm pads, fat basses + includes custom CD with Juno patches, editor/librarian software, Roland service schematics and a selection of MIDI software + purchased one year ago from the original owner! + like the Virus, never gigged, non-smoker studio use only since my purchase + DM 850 for synth/accessories and DM 150 for case or DM 950 for both ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 18:46:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: DBDroid@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:44:10 EDT Subject: Re: FS: Access Virus $900 + shipping... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DBDroid@aol.com yes I'm very interested ! I'm in NC please send your # I'm at 919 783 0462 thanx DJ ANDROID Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 22:41:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:52:29 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: bug Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! I've spend this afternoon creating sounds on our beloved virus, which was absolutely great. Sometimes you just have to create patches from scratch to relive the magic... I did encounter a bug though. I made a MODWHEEL -> EFFECTSEND setting in the modulation matrix, but it doesn't completely close the send when it should. Even when the Amount is set to 0 in the matrix you hear a little bit of delay coming through as soon as you select EFFECTSEND as a destination. I did notice some strange things before when selecting the source or destination in the modulation matrix while playing, but now I know it really is a bug. It didn't spoil the fun, but I thought i should mention! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 22:51:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:13:26 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Ohh, I have to complain Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Dear list, I feel it is perfectly OK to post Virus related FS and trade ads (If you are offering a Virus) on this list. But please don't reply to the list to one of these offers. OK? thank you. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 19:57:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "ruthless?!?!" To: Subject: Re: Access Virus $900 + shipping... Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:00:33 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "ruthless?!?!" hey, my name is justin malesky. im new to this list and i joined because i am interested in purchasing the virus. if you have the manual its as good as sold. email me back if interested. wwjd@andythepooh.com thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Reyes >* From Rick Reyes > >The Virus is in near mint condition. It comes with manual, power supply, extra wood side panels, and original packaging. I am asking $900 plus shipping. If interested let me know. If you are in the D/FW area, you can check it out in person... > >Rick >supercow@swbell.net >rreyes@vankoevering.com > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Oct 6 06:09:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:12:36 +0000 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: What synths does everyone in this list use ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Access Virus Waldorf Microwave XT Roland JP-8080 Roland VK-7 Motion Sound R3-147 Roland XP-80 Boss DR-660 E-mu Audity 2000 E-mu Proteus 2000 E-mu e6400 Ultra t.c. electronic Fireworx Ensoniq DP/4 Ensoniq PARIS Rhodes 73 Korg Trinity pro Metasynth Rebirth Cubase Wouldn't you know, I end up using the Virus the most. Dan dtm productions iinsectt wrote: >* From "iinsectt" > >Hiyas !!! >I am new to this list.... I am very curious about what synths everyone is using..... what kinda of stuff are you doing with it =) > >I am waiting for my Virus B to get to me =) I guess I am some kind of a freak................... Right now I am using A3000 v2, Pulse, Matrix6r, Nordlead, AN1x, MicrowaveXT and very excited for the Virus B to get to me =) If you have MP3's up somewhere..... please let me know. I love checking other people's stuff out =) > >Goodluck everyone !!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 20:17:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "ruthless?!?!" To: Subject: Re: FS Access Virus DM 1900 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:20:24 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "ruthless?!?!" hmmm. im not sure how 1900DM compares to american money, but im very interested in purchasing a virus. email me if interested. wwjd@andythepooh.com justin -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Hasan >* From Thomas Hasan > > >Hi, > >I've decided to sell my Virus because I'm moving locations and selling some synths; > >+ the Virus is in excellent condition with version 2.51 installed, never gigged and used only in a non-smoking home studio environment + comes with original box, packaging, user manual and product brochures > >+ will additionally provide the buyer with a custom CD which contains all docs & reference manuals (in English and German), a collection of great patches as well as some excellent freeware & shareware MIDI software & utilities that are an essential part of my studio -this CD is definitely *not* Virus-free! ;-) > >+ asking DM 1900 >+ prefer to sell & ship within Germany (if you're in/near Munich/Bavaria, you can view it in person) >+ if you're in continental Europe and seeking a Virus, contact me as well and we can arrange something > >regards, >Thomas > > >PS and [OT]: also selling a mint condition Juno 106 w/ hardshell case + true analog sound with the always-in-tune convenience of DCOs + warm pads, fat basses >+ includes custom CD with Juno patches, editor/librarian software, Roland service schematics and a selection of MIDI software + purchased one year ago from the original owner! + like the Virus, never gigged, non-smoker studio use only since my purchase >+ DM 850 for synth/accessories and DM 150 for case or DM 950 for both > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 23:35:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:34:58 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: bug Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi Oh, just one more thing. I'd love a multi panorama parameter, just like the part volume... :) bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 00:23:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:22:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: update questions? X-Originating-IP: 128.100.212.154 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Peter Hasek Yes, you can do that. Just follow the instructions posted on the website listed at the bottom of this message. Peter ------Original Message------ From: "ruthless?!?!" To: virus headz Sent: September 15, 1999 12:24:02 AM GMT Subject: update questions? * From "ruthless?!?!" is it possible to update a virus with a 1.51 system to a 2.51 and if so, how can i do this? thankx justin ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 00:59:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: TEST Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:57:41 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 00:57:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:58:45 +0200 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: update questions? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martijn Baan "ruthless?!?!" schreef: >* From "ruthless?!?!" > >is it possible to update a virus with a 1.51 system to a 2.51 and if so, how can i do this? > >thankx > >justin > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** Go to Canine's homepage, http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/, download section. Find the file with of 2.51. (midi by heart). Download it and put it into your sequencer program. Read the instruction in the readme file about settings, start the sequencer and make sure you have your Virus connected... Done! Greetings. Martijn Baan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 01:04:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:03:42 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: update questions? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >is it possible to update a virus with a 1.51 system to a 2.51 and if so, how can i do this? download this: http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/midi/os/2_51.zip read the instructions contained within the .zip file. note that you will need a sequencer such as Cubase, Logic, or most others (except for Cakewalk) to send the SysEx file (which contains the operating system) to the Virus. If you don't have a compatible sequencer, you can download a version of Cubase from steinberg's site (www.steinberg.de) that works. As long as you read, understand, and follow the instructions, you should not have a problem with the upgrade. -zs (with a thrice upgraded Virus) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 14 23:20:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "ruthless?!?!" To: "virus headz" Subject: update questions? Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:24:02 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "ruthless?!?!" is it possible to update a virus with a 1.51 system to a 2.51 and if so, how can i do this? thankx justin ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 03:40:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Out of tune Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:34:54 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Mark, >I'm not sure whether or not its my virus or not? But, I'll play a sequence from beginning to end and my virus at some point in the sequence drops down a tone? Check if you've got 'reverb', 'chorus' or other controllers in the sequence. Of these these performs Transpose on the Virus. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 17:11:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:13:02 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: bug Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Chris Borgia wrote: >What exactly is a modulation matrix? Is it a chain of controlers? It a system where you can connect (not quite) any output to (almost) any control input. So you could connect velocity to LFO rate, or envelope to filter balance, etc. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 17:34:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:30:42 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I have an idea...not necessarily an original one.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Guy Incognito wrote: >I dont know if this has been discussed before, but there needs to be a way you can set keygroups within a multi.......this way I can set up drumkits, and I can play different sounds live from the same keyboard......is this sort of thing possible? You can already do this: set all parts in a multi to respond the same midi channel, and set the upper and lower note limit on each part to form a 16-way keyboard split. >And is there anyway i can create a basstone that will make everyone within a 10km radius defecate? Yes, there is a way. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 10:41:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:07:16 +0330 (GMT+03:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Pros/Cons Access Virus WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl K.9 Kai Niggemann schreef: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > I tried out the Z1 in a store and I must tell you that I am not a fan >of Korg instruments (other than the MS-20...;-) And the MS-10 of course, which I own. That self osscillating -12dB/oct filter is pretty great. For the modern korg, their drum-computer is an exception. Though their 'virtual analogue' is quite different than that of the virus, i found myself playing with this toy for 3 hours. For 450 Euro it's a very good drumcoputer with comprehensible and accessible step-sequencer toy. One miserable thing is that if you put echo on the drums, the basedrum is included. You probably wouldn't want to dance on that... Oh yeah, indeed, everyone should try the saturation feature like canine said! An don't forget that the filter1-feedback knob is put before saturation, this gives an amount of nice distortion too! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 11:57:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:23:13 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Pros/Cons Access Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:07 PM +0330 on 15.09.1999 dimi@dds.nl wrote: Oh yeah, indeed, everyone should try the saturation feature like canine said! An don't forget that the filter1-feedback knob is put before saturation, this gives an amount of nice distortion too! The Virus calls this "Resonance". (just to make things a bit clearer for people not very familiar with the parameters of analogs) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 11:59:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:57:52 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Virus b picture Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" To all of you lusting after a Virus b, I just put a picture up on my website (see the signature below). It's nice and big (250K) and a jpg so you can see a lot of detail. There is a thumbnail on the "virus b page", click on it to get a closeup. enjoy... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 12:16:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: skujawa@mail.emagic.de Subject: Logic Audio Platinum/Gold Mac/Windows 4.0.4 available Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:01:04 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< Available on our website: Logic Audio Platinum/Gold Mac/Windows 4.0.4 Attention: The Updaters are only capable of updating the previous versions (Mac: 4.0.2, Win: 4.0.3). This makes the updaters considerably smaller. The previous updaters are of course still available. http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/update.html With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager and Betatest Coordinator (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH phone: +49 (0)4101 495-324 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 15:49:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:49:28 -0400 From: Chris Borgia X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: bug Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris Borgia What exactly is a modulation matrix? Is it a chain of controlers? CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 14.09.99 21:58:37 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>I did encounter a bug though. I made a MODWHEEL -> EFFECTSEND setting in the modulation matrix, but it doesn't completely close the send when it should. Even when the Amount is set to 0 in the matrix you hear a little bit of delay coming through as soon as you select EFFECTSEND as a destination. > >The mod matrix adds its value to the destinations parameter value, e.g. effect send, The matrix does *not* replace the destination parameter. If you hear the delay, the Effect Send itself is not set to zero. > >Ciao >Christoph >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 16:09:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:10:37 -0400 From: Chris Borgia X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Logic Audio,.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris Borgia Logic is the name I see most on this list, is it that good? Anyone with any comments on the program, please respond. Curently own a PC, but want a MAC. is there any diference in PC and MAC versions? I heard it has a very steep learning curve, is this true? and if so does that make it unenjoyable to use? Thank you, soon to be worldwide, CRISPY ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 16:41:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: I have an idea...not necessarily an original one.... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito I dont know if this has been discussed before, but there needs to be a way you can set keygroups within a multi.......this way I can set up drumkits, and I can play different sounds live from the same keyboard......is this sort of thing possible? And is there anyway i can create a basstone that will make everyone within a 10km radius defecate? And yes, I used Kilometers so you "non-americans" wouldn't get confused about the concept of a Mile.......j/k.... Gel-Sol __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 19:25:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: gatrall@pop.slip.net Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:26:07 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Simon Gatrall Subject: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall So I just looked at the big JPG of the Virus-b, and I really like the way the EDIT buttons have replaced a few non-essential buttons on the front panel. Without even using it, I can tell that the user interface is going to be so much better. With the exception of the new part and effects buttons, the rest of the buttons are in the same spots on the virus-a. Would it possible, for example, to have a version of the software that would use the key follow button as the edit button on LFO1? Also, why doesn't the Virus-b have labels for the vocoder? I have a bunch of tape with hand-written labels on my Virus-a so that I can remember which knob is "spectral balance" etc. Surely they could have added some text for the vocoder to the new model? -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 20:16:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:24:44 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: upgrade patches Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield Greetings, I was wondering if anyone has designed any new patches that incorporate the mod matrix and other recent additions. would anyone like to share any crazy routing techniques or ideas? thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 21:15:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:48:12 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:26 AM -0700 on 15.09.1999 Simon Gatrall wrote: Also, why doesn't the Virus-b have labels for the vocoder? I have a bunch of tape with hand-written labels on my Virus-a so that I can remember which knob is "spectral balance" etc. Surely they could have added some text for the vocoder to the new model? At the European Virus Posse/User meeting in Amsterdam, Christoph Kemper announced that a mousepad containing all the Vocoder control labels will be distributed with the Virus kb and I think will be available seperately. Hopefully this is still true... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 22:35:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:33:24 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: upgrade patches Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp I have some patches that I'd love to share. Most are kind of weird -- shimmering sub-sub-bass sounds, crazy sound FX, sounds that are intended to be used chained together via the AUX busses, and a nifty expressive e=piano sound I made last night. Actually, unlike most of the presets, most of the sounds that I've made use velocity, aftertouch, modulation, etc to modify the sound (via the so-called mod matrix). So as soon as I figure out a really good method for downloading patches to my computer (Cubase VST 3.55 on a PC) I'll post them to Canine's site... advice anyone? zs >Greetings, >I was wondering if anyone has designed any new patches that incorporate the mod matrix and other recent additions. >would anyone like to share any crazy routing techniques or ideas? thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 15 22:50:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: I have an idea...not necessarily an original one.... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Shit, i didn't know that......thanks alot.....i feel like an ass.....oh wait, i always feel that way..... guess i need to read my manual some more..... Gel-Sol --- Ronald Pieket wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > >Guy Incognito wrote: >>I dont know if this has been discussed before, but >there needs to be a >>way you can set keygroups within a >multi.......this way I can set up >>drumkits, and I can play different sounds live >from the same >>keyboard......is this sort of thing possible? > >You can already do this: set all parts in a multi to respond the same midi >channel, and set the upper and lower note limit on each part to form a 16-way >keyboard split. > >>And is there anyway i can create a basstone that >will make everyone >>within a 10km radius defecate? > >Yes, there is a way. > >- Ronald. > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 10:54:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: upgrade patches Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:00:54 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >So as soon as I figure out a really good method for downloading patches to my computer (Cubase VST 3.55 on a PC) I'll post them to Canine's site... advice anyone? Personally, I never load banks to try out other people's sounds, so I prefer the following method: Set Cubase fairly fast (120 will do), make sure Cubase can receive Sysex, turn on record, send a patch, stop recording. Repeat until you've sent all your interesting ones. Pull all the sysex data (in the event editor) onto the beginnings of bars - this is great for the people to try them out. Export as MIDI file and send to Canine. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 01:12:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:03:49 EDT Subject: virus/mpc/electronica homepage To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Hi all. Just reworked my homepage. I really didn't know what I was doing, so it's very, very basic. Just mainly a test to see what I could manage to do by myself. Go to the Virus section and have fun with the sounds and links (more sounds and patches on the way, now that I know how to put them on there). Any compliments, criticisms, or suggestions are appreciated (privately - to this, or my other e-mail on my webpage). Thanks! thx1107's Page of Electronica or http://hometown.aol.com/thx1107/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 03:08:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:48:07 +0200 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: upgrade patches Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guido Storek Hi Zack. Zack Steinkamp schrieb: > >* From Zack Steinkamp > >I have some patches that I'd love to share. > >Most are kind of weird -- shimmering sub-sub-bass sounds, crazy sound FX, sounds that are intended to be used chained together via the AUX busses, and a nifty expressive e=piano sound I made last night. Actually, unlike most of the presets, most of the sounds that I've made use velocity, aftertouch, modulation, etc to modify the sound (via the so-called mod matrix). > >So as soon as I figure out a really good method for downloading patches to my computer (Cubase VST 3.55 on a PC) I'll post them to Canine's site... advice anyone? > My suggestion: Set Cubase to 120 bpm, start recording and send a single patch. Make a pause of 3 bars or even more and send the next one (the length of the pause does«nt really affect the file size). Save it as mid and zip it. This is easy to be done and u may not have to stop recording between the patches. I 4 myself don«t like to transfer complete banks to the Virus. I prefer loading one sound into the buffer, stop Cubase, listen to the sound and then decide if/where to save it. This takes more time than using a complete bank, but it«s much faster when I don«t want to keep the whole bank. carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html Better mp3-samples of my music at http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 03:07:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:58:24 +0200 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I have an idea...not necessarily an original one.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guido Storek Hi there. Ronald Pieket schrieb: > >* From Ronald Pieket > > >You can already do this: set all parts in a multi to respond the same midi channel, and set the upper and lower note limit on each part to form a 16-way keyboard split. > And: No need to use all 16 channels. Don«t forget that u can also layer sounds. Examples: Snare: use a range of i.e 7 semitones and layer 2 sounds. Fix the frequency of the basic sound and use normal keyfollow with the timbre-sound. HiHat/Cymbal: do the same or vice versa, or make variations using filter-keyfollow or decay/release time. Carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html Better mp3-samples of my music at http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 05:44:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:24:56 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: upgrade patches Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Set Cubase to 120 bpm, start recording and send a single patch. Make a pause of 3 bars or even more and send the next one (the length of the pause does«nt really affect the file size). Save it as mid and zip it. This is easy to be done and u may not have to stop recording between the patches. great! I'll post some new patches tonight... zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 05:26:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:29:41 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Gene Schwartz Subject: Re: Logic Audio,.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gene Schwartz >* From Chris Borgia > >Logic is the name I see most on this list, is it that good? not necessarily >Anyone with any >comments on the program, please respond. Curently own a PC, but want a MAC. is there any diference in PC and MAC versions? The PC version seems to generate more complaints >I heard it has a very steep >learning curve, is this true? compared to other sequencers, yes >and if so does that make it unenjoyable to use? Not in the least. Put in the effort - it's worth it. The learning curve is a result of fact that the program has a lot in it, and the fact that it tends to be a bit more abstract than the other sequencers - you have a lot more flexibility in the way that you can configure the program, the environment window being the primary example. But they call it 'Logic' for a reason - it's a very intuitive a logical program once you take the time to learn it. "I began to add a few things up and realized there was no way I could come from a little town in Iowa, be eating 2,000 people a year, and nobody said anything about it" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 05:08:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: upgrade patches Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:03:17 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Zack, >Actually, unlike most of the presets, most of the sounds that I've made use velocity, aftertouch, modulation, etc to modify the sound (via the so-called mod matrix). That sounds good. I like being able to play/ program expression onto the sounds. Velocity & mod-wheel are best for me - my keyboard doesn't have after touch. What does it typically do, and is it easy to play? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 05:30:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 05:18:57 +0200 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: upgrade patches Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guido Storek Hi there. Thomas Whitmore schrieb: > >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >Hi Zack, > >>Actually, unlike most of the presets, most of the sounds that I've made use velocity, aftertouch, modulation, etc to modify the sound (via the so-called mod matrix). > >That sounds good. I like being able to play/ program expression onto the sounds. > >Velocity & mod-wheel are best for me - my keyboard doesn't have after touch. What does it typically do, and is it easy to play? > Aftertoch is pressure. U«ve hit a key, hold it, and push it. The more u push, ... carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 09:43:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:11:35 +0330 (GMT+03:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Yeah Christoph! I already have a Virus T-shirt, when can we buy those awesome virsu-mousepads? Dimitri. (Aaah, that's long ago, the EVP. When will the EVP2 be? I'd love a cup of coffee!) K.9 Kai Niggemann schreef: >At the European Virus Posse/User meeting in Amsterdam, Christoph >Kemper announced that a mousepad containing all the Vocoder control >labels will be distributed with the Virus kb and I think will be >available seperately. >Hopefully this is still true... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 09:58:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:43:52 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >Also, why doesn't the Virus-b have labels for the vocoder? I have a bunch of tape with hand-written labels on my Virus-a so that I can remember which knob is "spectral balance" etc. Surely they could have added some text for the vocoder to the new model? I've been thinking about creating a plastic overlay for the vocoder (as on the 808). Anybody interested? jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 09:59:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:43:52 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >Also, why doesn't the Virus-b have labels for the vocoder? I have a bunch of tape with hand-written labels on my Virus-a so that I can remember which knob is "spectral balance" etc. Surely they could have added some text for the vocoder to the new model? I've been thinking about creating a plastic overlay for the vocoder (as on the 808). Anybody interested? jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 09:58:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:44:57 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >At the European Virus Posse/User meeting in Amsterdam, Christoph Kemper announced that a mousepad containing all the Vocoder control labels will be distributed with the Virus kb and I think will be available seperately. Cool! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 10:12:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:08:20 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Logic Audio,.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:29 PM -0700 on 15.09.1999 Gene Schwartz wrote: The PC version seems to generate more complaints Whatever you choose, it's a good bet to join the Logic list (if it ever comes back to life, I haven't been able to resubscribe after the move for over three weeks now) and listen in to what people say about different computers. >I heard it has a very steep >learning curve, is this true? compared to other sequencers, yes I can't really tell, I started with a sampler, a cracked cubase and a second hand midi interface a long time ago and it was all very steep. But I found the transition to Logic pretty smooth. >and if so does that make it unenjoyable to use? Not in the least. Put in the effort - it's worth it. The learning curve is a result of fact that the program has a lot in it, and the fact that it tends to be a bit more abstract than the other sequencers - you have a lot more flexibility in the way that you can configure the program, the environment window being the primary example. But they call it 'Logic' for a reason - it's a very intuitive a logical program once you take the time to learn it. It seems that in the US the manual or ads seem to suggest that you need to understand that whole Environment business before you can start making music, but that is not true. You can go about your regular tasks and reread the manual a million times, to learn about functions you previously missed. Then start using them whenever you are ready. But it's easy to start making music, that's for sure. And I think it's fun to use because after a while you realize it has so much in it, so many things that sometimes I find myself wishing for a function, then going through the program and discovering that even *that* function is in there, I had just missed it before... Great software... (sorry for the ramblings...) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 12:17:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:30:24 +0200 From: eSPARk / Athom / Nature freaks X-Accept-Language: en-US To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From eSPARk / Athom / Nature freaks Jasper de Jong skriver: >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >>Also, why doesn't the Virus-b have labels for the vocoder? I have a bunch of tape with hand-written labels on my Virus-a so that I can remember which knob is "spectral balance" etc. Surely they could have added some text for the vocoder to the new model? > >I've been thinking about creating a plastic overlay for the vocoder (as on the 808). Anybody interested? > >jasper >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 > Hi, Ohh yes, that could be nice! What approx. are the price going to be? bom bom, Jesper! -- http://www.geneticlight.dk http://www.geneticlight.dk/athom/athom.htm ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 13:01:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Date: Thu, 16 Sep 99 12:59:16 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" >I've been thinking about creating a plastic overlay for the vocoder (as on the 808). Anybody interested? we could create a pdf file, so everybody could easily download and print it. if somebody creates the plasic overlay graphics in (preferable) illustrator or pagemaker i would transfer it into the pdf format (if done this with the last virus addenda, too). cu marc ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 14:46:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:02:14 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >>I've been thinking about creating a plastic overlay for the vocoder (as on the 808). Anybody interested? >Ohh yes, that could be nice! >What approx. are the price going to be? Well, if I make one, I'll just put up an image or document on Canine's page or something like that, so you can download yourself and then print it. >Jesper! Jesper. That's what my parents were going to call me (being real denmark-freaks), but they thought it sounded a bit too strange in dutch. Too bad...:) Jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 15:06:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:23:34 -0400 From: PUÄ Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From PUÄ Jasper, While I was reading about the pad coming in the Virus B's, I was thinking the same thing that you said...Plastic overlay would really be a great idea...This reminds me of the "2nd Page" commands on my OB 8...Some of the OB's didn't have the 2nd page silk sceening..What the manual did have, was a full sheet with page 1 controls on one side, and the 2nd Page controls on the other...Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 19:29:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:25:23 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Logic Audio,.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi Canine, >Whatever you choose, it's a good bet to join the Logic list (if it ever comes back to life, I haven't been able to resubscribe after the move for over three weeks now) and listen in to what people say about different computers. I'm listowner of the Logic list... why didn't you get back to me ? I thought I asked you whether it worked... Please mail me privately and tell me what isn't working !!!!!! I'll try to fix it asap. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com List-admin Logic-users/ Sounddiver-users/ Logic-TDM FAQ & Info: http://www.nbdj.com/Logic/mailinglists.htm http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 19:52:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Virus B baby... Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:49:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" Hey List, I just picked up my Virus B last night. It was the last of the two I mentioned being in the Central Dallas Guitar Center. I am selling my original Virus to a list member, so it didn't hurt my wallet too bad. The switch to "Edit" Buttons is kick ass. The cool thing about them is that they don't just jump to a given location in the edit pages, but that they ONLY access the parameters associated to the given section (edit button). Very Nice. Also, the pages that are associated with an edit button have been removed from the edit menu, so you only access them via the edit buttons. This change really streamlines the menu system. Also, for Canine's site, the effect button gives you access to the Input setup, Vocoder and Chorus/Delay. While I only had about 20 minutes with it this morning, I really must give props to the Access team for the logical changes to the interface/menu system. I really like it... One complaint. I wish the edit buttons were setup in a "toggle" fashion. You have to select another button to get them to deactivate. You really should be able to press it again to have it deselect it's edit menu... Rick Rick ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 21:02:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:59:37 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: FX Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco Are there any plans to implement a phaser in the Virus? It's one of my favorite effects ever... Moho ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 16 21:25:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:24:21 +0200 Subject: Re: FX Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:59:37 -0500 (EST), Moho Disco wrote: >* From Moho Disco > >Are there any plans to implement a phaser in the Virus? It's one of my favorite effects ever... Just set up your filters for band elimination mode and assign an LFO to the cutoff frequency. This sounds pretty well with some of my string sounds - just like these old fashioned Oxygene- and Equinoxe sounds. CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 00:46:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: Re: Virus B baby... uuuh Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:48:48 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" So it is out? Where is that? America? Will no one tell me if it is out over here in the UK? I've got the cash to buy one but the stores don't know what i'm talking about when i say Virus B so i'm still waiting till (or pretend) they do. Tom. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Reyes To: Sent: 16 September 1999 18:49 Subject: Virus B baby... >* From "Rick Reyes" > >Hey List, > >I just picked up my Virus B last night. It was the last of the two I mentioned being in the Central Dallas Guitar Center. I am selling my original Virus to a list member, so it didn't hurt my wallet too bad. > >The switch to "Edit" Buttons is kick ass. The cool thing about them is that >they don't just jump to a given location in the edit pages, but that they ONLY access the parameters associated to the given section (edit button). Very Nice. Also, the pages that are associated with an edit button have been >removed from the edit menu, so you only access them via the edit buttons. This change really streamlines the menu system. > >Also, for Canine's site, the effect button gives you access to the Input setup, Vocoder and Chorus/Delay. > >While I only had about 20 minutes with it this morning, I really must give props to the Access team for the logical changes to the interface/menu system. I really like it... > >One complaint. I wish the edit buttons were setup in a "toggle" fashion. You >have to select another button to get them to deactivate. You really should be able to press it again to have it deselect it's edit menu... > >Rick > >Rick > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 20:17:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: FX Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:42:13 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Moho Disco > >Are there any plans to implement a phaser in the Virus? It's one of my favorite effects ever... That was something I asked a year ago too :-) And maybe an ensemble effect? And no there is NOT a phaser in the Virus...and definitely not with the filters. It does sound great the bandsperr but it ain't no phaser and also the negative feedback isn't a phaser... But then again you could also buy an extra fx-unit, but it would be nice to have it in the box. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl (those 2 fxs are the most 'heavily' used ones by me) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 20:33:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:34:23 -0700 From: Daniel Pirone X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus B baby... uuuh Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Daniel Pirone bigw wrote: > >* From bigw > >Hey Tom >im in the u.s. but try givin turnkey a call or better yet find out from TSI who the english distributor is Aceess doesnt have much to do with distribution. This way your distributor can tell you which stores have em cheers fyi I noticed that http://www.roguemusic.com/news.html claims to have one for $1195 USD ... - djp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 22:17:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:36:13 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Prices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Hey Christoph and other sell mans , I always feel jalous when i see the american prices for synthesizer . But can you tell why a synth built in Germany is significantly cheaper in US then in Germany ? Has it to do with the market situation or what ? Curios... Oli ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 23:04:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:03:08 EDT Subject: Re: Prices To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ShawnClear@aol.com hi, I'm not sure if I agree. I bought both my Virus rackmount and Waldorf Pulse from Germany for considerably cheaper prices. Even after shipping and vat tax, the price usually comes out about the same or even a bit less. Later, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 17 23:37:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "H.LŸbker" To: Subject: Sv: Prices Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:33:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "=?iso-8859-1?B?SC5M/GJrZXI=?=" Well, In Denmark prices are very high. An access virus cost around 2300$ or 4300 DM. No wonder I buy my gear in Germany. Is there any reason for that price difference, Christoph? -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: ShawnClear@aol.com Til: access-list@teklab.com Dato: 17. september 1999 23:23 Emne: Re: Prices >* From ShawnClear@aol.com > >hi, > >I'm not sure if I agree. I bought both my Virus rackmount and Waldorf Pulse from Germany for considerably cheaper prices. Even after shipping and vat tax, the price usually comes out about the same or even a bit less. > >Later, > >Shawn >shawnclear@aol.com >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 18 08:40:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "John David Miller" To: Subject: Sound Diver w/2.51 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:53:46 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "John David Miller" I have Soundiver and the 2.51 ADA file. however, it's not talking properly to the virus. the only single patch it lists is "Single****" if i request another entry, it looks like sysex is flying, but it doesn't show up in SoundDiver. it *is* communicating -- if i choose this "Single****" patch, all the on-screen knobs wiggle when i move virus knobs. what's going on? i must say that the SD editor is pretty slick -- much easier to keep track of params that don't have knobs (and there are lots of those) thanks in advance, -- jdm ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 18 14:01:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:02:17 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sv: Prices X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) H.LŸbker schrieb: >* From "=?iso-8859-1?B?SC5M/GJrZXI=?=" > >Well, In Denmark prices are very high. An access virus cost around 2300$ or 4300 DM. No wonder I buy my gear in Germany. > >Is there any reason for that price difference, Christoph? > Hi ! I think this has nothing to do with Christoph or Access.It has to do with the national laws and taxes in Denmark. But, maybe I«m wrong.So, only an imagination! Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 18 17:53:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:09:22 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Prices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Huh , when i compare 1200 USD with 2700 DM it makes a difference of 1000 DM Somebody told me that US prices are tax exclusive but that does not explain the whole difference . And US taxes are lower than european (To keep in mind). I have the prices of the virus from several friends which live in America , and i noticed the difference with almost every other manufacturer too . (i think the prices are mostly from Zzounds and other big companies) Regards Oli CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 17.09.99 21:23:44 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Hey Christoph and other sell mans , >> >>I always feel jalous when i see the american prices for synthesizer . But can you tell why a synth built in Germany is significantly cheaper in US >>then in Germany ? Has it to do with the market situation or what ? Curios... >> > >You talk about the Virus? >It's not cheaper in the US. What prices did you see? > >Ciao >Christoph >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 18 21:20:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:15:06 -0500 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Virus B baby... To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes I can't seem to locate the Assignable (Matrix) pages. Where are they? Well, with only one edit button, having it toggle was not as necessary. But, with specialized edit buttons, it seems more logical to have them toggle their state. That's just my opinion of course. Also, this baby has been experiencing erratic behavior. It keeps screaming digital noise (very hard on the ears and monitors), and it just quits playing altogether. I hope it's just being cranky, and will resolve it's issues on it's own... Rick ges that are associated with an edit button have >been >>have to select another button to get them to deactivate. You really should >>be able to press it again to have it deselect it's edit menu... > >Is there any reason to 'deselect' an edit menu? We never had this on Virus A >either. Press SINGLE or MULTI to change the view. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 05:11:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:11:05 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket John David Miller wrote: > >* From "John David Miller" > >when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each note. Have you set the "Punch" parameter to 0, and "PhaseInit" to 1? - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 00:34:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "John David Miller" To: Subject: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:46:50 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "John David Miller" when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each note. i sampled the output with sound forge and, indeed, the wave is a bit spikey at the begining. you can really tell this using a sin wave. i would expect a sine cycle starting right at the zero crossing, but mine has a spike. setting the VCA attack to 3-7 is a workaround, but i'm wondering what's going on. is this just the way the virus works, or it mine busted? i can e-mail / post a way if you like. -- jdm ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 00:57:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:57:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "John David Miller" > >when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each note. i sampled the output with sound forge and, indeed, the wave is a bit >spikey at the begining. you can really tell this using a sin wave. i would >expect a sine cycle starting right at the zero crossing, but mine has a spike. setting the VCA attack to 3-7 is a workaround, but i'm wondering what's going on. > >is this just the way the virus works, or it mine busted? Ah...the return of the clicking attacks. I still have it too...not really bothering and not always there but when it's there you can hear it. Still haven't found out what it is...I can't 'reproduce' it or whatever. And setting the attack to a higher setting works, but it isn't so fast anymore then. Marcel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 02:09:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:09:04 -0400 From: Chris Borgia X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris Borgia not for nothing but i get the same cliking. is it a promblem with my VIRUS? bigw wrote: >* From bigw > >Thats a natural response from the access envelope if i remember right weld > >John David Miller wrote: > >>* From "John David Miller" >> >>when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each note. i sampled the output with sound forge and, indeed, the wave is a bit spikey at the begining. you can really tell this using a sin wave. i would expect a sine cycle starting right at the zero crossing, but mine has a spike. setting the VCA attack to 3-7 is a workaround, but i'm wondering what's going on. >> >>is this just the way the virus works, or it mine busted? >> >>i can e-mail / post a way if you like. >> >>-- jdm >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 02:29:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:40:41 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw some sounds the clicking might be a desired effect, just set the env to a minimum of 1 to get rid of it, the oberhiem expander has the same thing weld Chris Borgia wrote: >* From Chris Borgia > >not for nothing but i get the same cliking. is it a promblem with my VIRUS? > >bigw wrote: > >>* From bigw >> >>Thats a natural response from the access envelope if i remember right weld >> >>John David Miller wrote: >> >>>* From "John David Miller" >>> >>>when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each note. i sampled the output with sound forge and, indeed, the wave is a bit spikey at the begining. you can really tell this using a sin wave. i would expect a sine cycle starting right at the zero crossing, but mine has a spike. setting the VCA attack to 3-7 is a workaround, but i'm wondering what's going on. >>> >>>is this just the way the virus works, or it mine busted? >>> >>>i can e-mail / post a way if you like. >>> >>>-- jdm >>> >>>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 03:36:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 03:31:37 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Stefan Trippler" I suppose it's not only a natural response but intentionally programmed. Without that clicking the experts of the international magazines wouldn't judge the envelopes as superfast ;-) Regards Stefan -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: bigw An: Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 1999 02:16 Betreff: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 >* From bigw > >Thats a natural response from the access envelope if i remember right weld > >John David Miller wrote: > >>* From "John David Miller" >> >>when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 06:13:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:10:23 EDT Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ShawnClear@aol.com hi, The clicking is a natural response for analog-styled synthesizers with fast envelopes. This is a "feature" and not a problem. If you don't like it then turn the attack up on env's 1 and 2. This is an important feature programmed into the Pulse to emulate one of the best features of the best analogue synths [imo]- fast response time ala the Minimoog or Waldorf Pulse. It makes the synth punchier which is obviously great for basslines or electronic bleep and bloop type sounds. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 06:04:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "John David Miller" To: Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:17:51 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "John David Miller" Ah -- phaseinit was off!! that fixed it -- but why would i not want the phase to be initialized at note-on? thanks! -- jdm ps - do you also have a fix for why sound diver isn't working properly? as i said in my original post, it is obviously communicating, as the on-screen knobs move when i move them on the virus. however, sd is seemingly unable to snd/rcv any of the patches that are already on the synth. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronald Pieket To: Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 1:11 PM Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 >* From Ronald Pieket > >John David Miller wrote: >> >>* From "John David Miller" >> >>when i set my VCA attack to 0, i often get "clicking" at the start of each >>note. > >Have you set the "Punch" parameter to 0, and "PhaseInit" to 1? > >- Ronald. > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 08:29:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 18:23:37 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi John, >Ah -- phaseinit was off!! that fixed it -- but why would i not want the phase to be initialized at note-on? Because that would sound like a sampler, rather than a living breathing piece of circuitry... Poetry : ain't it great when it stops raining. Ha! Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 10:22:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:19:41 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From ShawnClear@aol.com > >This is an important feature programmed into the Pulse to emulate one of the >best features of the best analogue synths [imo]- fast response time ala the >Minimoog or Waldorf Pulse. It makes the synth punchier which is obviously great for basslines or electronic bleep and bloop type sounds. Those 'clickings' are very different then the clickings of the Virus. I know exactly what you mean with clickings from the MiniMoog, they sound musical, but the clickings from the Virus sound electrical. Hmmm phaseinit = 1, haven't tried that one...could it be that it is THAT simple??? Why haven't someone mention that earlier? Great for basslines those clickings? When listening to old albums with 16 step sequences with a Moog then I definitely don't hear clicks...yes heavy punch, but clicks no. ahhh phaseinit=1! But then explain why there is sometimes clickings with phaseinit=off and sometimes not? :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 14:32:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Prices Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:39:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Huh , when i compare 1200 USD with 2700 DM it makes a difference of 1000 DM Does it really? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 20:17:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:15:07 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Marcel Engels wrote: >Great for basslines those clickings? When listening to old albums with 16 step sequences with a Moog then I definitely don't hear clicks... yes heavy punch, but clicks no. Right, the musician must have set the envelope attack to a value just-off-zero, so that there is no click. You can do that on the Virus: set attack time to 1 or 2, and you get "yes heavy punch, but clicks no." >ahhh phaseinit=1! >But then explain why there is sometimes clickings with phaseinit=off and sometimes not? :-) It completely explains it. Think about what is going on: with PhaseInit switched off, the phase of the ascillator is not initialized, and effectively random. So if the phase happened to be 45 degrees, the waveform will start with value sin(45), which is 1, and you get a click. If the phase was 0 degrees, the starting value will be sin(0), which is 0, no click. Click: Smooth: 1>* __ 1 __ _etc |\ / \ / \ / 0 |_\ ____ /____\etc 0>*/____\ ____ /__ \ / \ / -1 \__/ -1 \__/ (Use fixed width type face to view ascii art) - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 16:49:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 17:06:18 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Prices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Ok , i must admit that i dont know the exactly course DM/USD . I live in Switzerland and with swiss franks it does make a diff of 900 Fr. Oli >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>Huh , when i compare 1200 USD with 2700 DM it makes a difference of 1000 >DM > >Does it really? > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 18:48:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:44:22 EDT Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 9/19/99 9:04:10 AM US Mountain Standard Time, CKe9644719@aol.com writes: >Since you cannot create an unfiltered sine sound on a >MiniMoog, this Virus sound *must* sound kind of electrical in this situation. You can do this on a Minimoog. Just turn off all the oscillators and noise source and turn the filter emphasis/resonance up all the way. The self-oscillating Moog filter now just produces a sine wave. Flick both filter keyboard tracking switches to the right and play away. Tune the sine wave with the filter cutoff knob. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 20:45:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:42:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >The responsible parameter is Punch Intensity. Please use it to control the attack-click. Phase Init is not a good choice for that. Thanks for the comments Chris! Well, I played around with the PhaseInit and it made all the difference... When set low you still get a few clicks but around 50/60 then it's away. And all the time I thought something was wrong with my machine...of course it's not! It's an absolutely wonderful machine! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 00:06:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 23:11:59 +0200 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: request: jungle bass sound Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guido Storek Hi there. Does anyone have the typical old jungle-bass sound 4 the Virus? I mean the deep sound with the pitch going down during the release-time. If so - please mail it to me as a mid-file or tell me where I can get it. A few good samples would be also ok (mp3 or zipped wav). Thanks in advance. carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html Better mp3-samples of my music at http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 19 23:50:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: Prices Date: Sun, 19 Sep 99 23:45:47 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" >Huh , when i compare 1200 USD with 2700 DM it makes a difference of 1000 DM Somebody told me that US prices are tax exclusive but that does not explain the whole difference . And US taxes are lower than european (To keep in mind). >I have the prices of the virus from several friends which live in America , and i noticed the difference with almost every other manufacturer too . (i think the prices are mostly from Zzounds and other big companies) the dollar/DM exchange is about 1.88 DM= 1 USD. so the difference is DM 540.- right? so our prices here (in germany are incl. 16% VAT). if you compare DM 2700 - 16% VAT = DM 2327.- = 1237 USD the difference is just DM 71.- when you order something from abroad and your company has as TAX ID (or whatever it is called) you don't pay the tax anyway. in all other cases you have to pay your local tax. when you import e.g. the virus from the US you normally pay the 16% german tax at customs. do i get something wrong? kind regards, marc ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 01:33:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:28:38 EDT Subject: Re: virus idea of the day + fun with cables To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Also, don't forget: after your last AUX IN patch is used, you can still route that patch's output to OUT 2 (stereo or mono), run a cable(s) to the EXT IN(s) and have one (or two) more INP patch access the EXT IN(s)!!!! I have made a Multi Program that uses this method. In a message dated 9/13/99 1:00:52 PM Central Daylight Time, zs@yahoo-inc.com writes: << * From Zack Steinkamp Have you ever used the AUX busses in the Virus? Maybe it's time you started... 1) Go into Multi-Single mode, part 1 2) Create/Select a patch 3) Toward the beginning of the EDIT menu, set the OUTPUT to AUX 1+2 4) It may be handy to assign your modulation wheel to filter cutoff for this patch, but do whatever you want 5) Go to multi part 2 6) Select a basic INPUT patch 7) Toward the end of the EDIT menu, set INPUT to AUX 1+2 and INPUT MODE to STATIC (for now ... but by all means throw it on dynamic later for neat staccato effects!) 8) Tweak the heck out of it (filters, distortion, etc, etc) 9) Maybe you want to put your mod wheel on filter CUTOFF here? Get your sequencer running, send some notes to part 1, and record some controller changes. Switch your sequencer (and the Virus) to part 2, and while part 1 is playing (looped?), try tweaking the filter, etc and see how amazing the sounds are. Note that there are TWO stereo aux busses in the virus -- which can also be addressed as FOUR mono busses. Imagine -- a chain of 10(!) filters, 5 distortions, 5 delays, 5 choruses etc. making noise for 1 patch. zs (loves his virus) >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 07:54:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:08:18 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Prices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver No , but i did . Sorry , as said i thought i can transfer the swiss situation to the germans , doesnt work , sorry for the confusion . But fact is that other countries than germany are as expensive . (see UK , Benelux,CH ...) Regards Oli "Marc.Schlaile" schrieb: > > >do i get something wrong? > >kind regards, marc > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 08:45:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jared Vogt To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: TDM Plugin... Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 23:43:05 -0700 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jared Vogt For those of you with Protools... ...and the upcoming Access Virus TDM plug-in... from Digidesign site (http://www.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/frames.cgi?/news/press/press49.html ). Very Interesting. Jared ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 12:22:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:05:02 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >>ahhh phaseinit=1! >It completely explains it. Think about what is going on: with PhaseInit switched off, the phase of the ascillator is not >initialized, and effectively random. Yes... I was always wondering when I wanted to create some sine based patches... Last week I discovered the need of PhaseInit in this case! With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager and Betatest Coordinator (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 12:32:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: jdm@teleport.com Subject: Re: clicking with VCA attack at 0 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:11:00 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >ps - do you also have a fix for why sound diver isn't working properly? as i said in my original post, it is obviously communicating, as the on-screen knobs move when i move them on the virus. however, sd is seemingly unable to snd/rcv any of the patches that are already on the synth. Are you runnin SD2.0.8 (which comes with my latest virus adaptation)? Does the SCAN function find your virus? >the only single patch it lists is "Single****" if i request another entry, it looks like sysex is flying, but it doesn't show up in SoundDiver. Please select the whole bank in SoundDiver and click on REQUEST >it *is* communicating -- if i choose this "Single****" patch, all the on-screen knobs wiggle when i move virus knobs. Also the other way? What happens if you move a fader on screen? Btw, parameter changes are done by sending Controllers/PPressure, but patch requests/dumps via SysEX! >i must say that the SD editor is pretty slick -- much easier to keep track of params that don't have knobs (and there are lots of those) That's the reason why I started to make this adaptation... Many People told me why do you need an editor for the virus, but 250 parameters in a 2 line lcd are not so easy to track :) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager and Betatest Coordinator (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 12:59:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.arcor-ip.de Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:39:00 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: TDM Plugin... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:43 PM -0700 on 19.09.1999 Jared Vogt wrote: * From Jared Vogt For those of you with Protools... ...and the upcoming Access Virus TDM plug-in... from Digidesign site (http://www.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/frames.cgi?/news/press/press49.html ). Very Interesting. Actually there is more here: http://www.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/frames.cgi?/news/press/press50.html I also put a link on my site... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 20:05:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Does anyone else own a Virus B?/Where are the Assign Pages? Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:01:19 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" Hey list, I have only had my Virus B for a few days, and I have actually only had about 1 hour with it. It is driving me crazy trying to locate the "Assign" pages. They seem to have disappeared from the control menu. Maybe I am over looking something, but they seem to have disappeared. Any help is appreciated. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 20:36:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: MYKE7777@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:33:04 EDT Subject: how do you create a good sub bass tone? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From MYKE7777@aol.com hello. im doing a lot of r&b and rap for some reason. just wondering how to create a good sub bass sound. like th SE-1. thanks for your help. sincerely mike g. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 20 21:34:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Problems with unison To: Accesslist Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?q?Valentijn=20Steenhoudt?= When working in multimode, I've noticed a problem when using unison with some patches. I'm working with 2 patches. One of them (a bass sound) uses unison in 4 voices and the other uses unison in 2. The first patch is assigned to midichannel 1 and the second one to midichannel 2. Now, when I play these two patches simultaneously the second patch starts to hang after a while. For some reason the second patch plays notes that are not sequenced and the notes also keep hanging(the not sequenced ones). When I turn unison off of the second patch the problem doesn't occur. I've checked if I was doing something wrong with the sequencer but I'm quite sure that isn't the problem. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong here? Pls! Greetings and respect, Valentijn Steenhoudt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 21 02:02:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: DBDroid@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:55:56 EDT Subject: wanted: virus ! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DBDroid@aol.com with all the hype and new features of the Virus B it's time for the next step ! I'll gladly buy your Virus A for $800+ shipping ! reply off list dbdroid@aol.com thanx ! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 21 02:56:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:51:20 EDT Subject: Virus sold To: access-list@teklab.com, analogue@hyperreal.org Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com Thanks for all who replied to my Virus ad. It has been sold. (A special thanks to the one who actually came up with the money for it :-). Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 21 16:47:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:18:40 +0200 From: eSPARk / Athom / Nature freaks X-Accept-Language: en-US To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus-b in a Virus-a? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From eSPARk / Athom / Nature freaks Jasper de Jong skriver: >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >>Jesper! > >Jesper. That's what my parents were going to call me (being real denmark-freaks), but they thought it sounded a bit too strange in dutch. Too bad...:) > >Jasper > >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 Hi Jasper, Well I always wanted to be named "Jasper" instead of "Jesper", so what about a trade? :) bom bom, Jesper! -- http://www.geneticlight.dk http://www.geneticlight.dk/athom/athom.htm ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 21 13:56:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Thomas Hasan To: Subject: RE: Virus sold Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:48:16 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Hasan * From Synthworld@aol.com >Thanks for all who replied to my Virus ad. It has been sold. If you're still looking for a Virus, mine is still for sale: + mint condition; home non-smoker studio use only + latest os installed + original packing + cd with docs, patch & utils + DM 1900 / US 1000 or equivalent currency to save list bandwidth, pls reply privately to mailto:thomas@hasan.com regards, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 15:22:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: dob@kiva.net, access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:09:30 +0000 Subject: Re: FX Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >* From Moho Disco > >Are there any plans to implement a phaser in the Virus? It's one of my favorite effects ever... > >Moho > > I want this too! Let's have it sound like an MXR phase 100 please! Phasers are the dogs bollocks on analogue sounds, the generally weedy Yamaha AN1x scores over the Virus in respect of its implementation of an OK sounding phaser in its FX section. Are there technical reasons why the Virus' FX couldn't be made to do phasing? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 14:03:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:58:12 +0200 (MEST) From: Benni Lampert To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: banging vocoder X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001261624@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [62.158.227.25] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Benni Lampert hi list ! i am using the vocoder patch "B106 voc crisp" with a vocal sample. every time the vocoder-voice sounds in my song it takes 4 or 5 seconds and then a horrible BANG appears (that doesn«t really treat your blood-pressure very gently if your volume is set up high !). that is why the vocoder automatically switches off when it is not used, isn«t it ? this kind of noise is really bothering me ! has anyone made experience with that, maybe it was dicussed earlier ?? c u benni -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 17:35:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: DENNIS_SCHISSLER@hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:34:06 -0700 Subject: Re: banging vocoder CC: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DENNIS_SCHISSLER@hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com I too experience the same problem. I've noticed that I really have to crank up my inputs to the vocoder to get a reasonable output level and when that BANG goes off - yikes! -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: banging vocoder Author: Non-HP-Benni.L (Benni.L@gmx.de) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 9/22/99 4:58 AM * From Benni Lampert hi list ! i am using the vocoder patch "B106 voc crisp" with a vocal sample. every time the vocoder-voice sounds in my song it takes 4 or 5 seconds and then a horrible BANG appears (that doesn't really treat your blood-pressure very gently if your volume is set up high !). that is why the vocoder automatically switches off when it is not used, isn't it ? this kind of noise is really bothering me ! has anyone made experience with that, maybe it was dicussed earlier ?? c u benni -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 19:07:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: virus idea of the day + fun with cables To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito I messed with your little idea and didn't get much more than an ambient wind sound that accompanied part 1......sure, that was pretty cool, but I was expecting something a little more far out.....what am I doing wrong? I used different sounds for both parts but got relatively the same effect every time.... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated....thanks... Gel-Sol --- VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: >* From VirusMPC@aol.com > >Also, don't forget: after your last AUX IN patch is used, you can still route >that patch's output to OUT 2 (stereo or mono), run a cable(s) to the EXT >IN(s) and have one (or two) more INP patch access the EXT IN(s)!!!! I have >made a Multi Program that uses this method. > >In a message dated 9/13/99 1:00:52 PM Central Daylight Time, zs@yahoo-inc.com >writes: ><< * From Zack Steinkamp > >Have you ever used the AUX busses in the Virus? Maybe it's time you started... >1) Go into Multi-Single mode, part 1 >2) Create/Select a patch >3) Toward the beginning of the EDIT menu, set the OUTPUT to AUX 1+2 >4) It may be handy to assign your modulation wheel to filter cutoff >for this patch, but do whatever you want 5) Go to multi part 2 >6) Select a basic INPUT patch >7) Toward the end of the EDIT menu, set INPUT to AUX 1+2 >and INPUT MODE to STATIC (for now ... but by all means throw it >on dynamic later for neat staccato effects!) 8) Tweak the heck out of it (filters, distortion, etc, etc) >9) Maybe you want to put your mod wheel on filter CUTOFF here? > >Get your sequencer running, send some notes to part 1, and record some >controller changes. Switch your sequencer (and the Virus) to part 2, >and while part 1 is playing (looped?), try tweaking the filter, etc and >see how amazing the sounds are. > >Note that there are TWO stereo aux busses in the virus -- which can also >be addressed as FOUR mono busses. Imagine -- a chain of 10(!) filters, >5 distortions, 5 delays, 5 choruses etc. making noise for 1 patch. > >zs >(loves his virus) >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 21:01:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:00:18 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus idea of the day + fun with cables Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >I messed with your little idea and didn't get much more than an ambient wind sound that accompanied part 1......sure, that was pretty cool, but I was expecting something a little more far out.....what am I doing wrong? I've used this technique for a few different effects ... 1) Big Distortion Sound on 1 -> AUX1 -> distortion in 2 -> OUT Allows you to do a guitar-style distortion on chords you play in part 1, where instead of each note being run thru saturation, the whole chord receives saturation. 2) Big Filters Sound on 1 (w/filters) -> AUX1 -> Filters in 2 -> OUT Wonder what four bandpass filters in series sounds like? How about two pairs of filters? This is how you do it. 3) Huge Filters Sound on 1 (Filters in SER6) -> AUX1 -> SER6 filters in 2 -> AUX2 -> SER6 filters in 3 -> OUT Have you ever heard an 18-pole (108dB/octave) filter? You can now... 4) Multi-Filters + Big Chorus + Big Distortion This is a bit more involved, since you'll need a sequencer or a couple of controllers. Set up your patches in 'Big Filters' mode, and set ModWhl to control filter cutoff in each part. So what you can do is record your Modwheel movements in your sequencer for part 1, play that back as a loop (or whatever), and do Modwheel stuff on part 2. Now you can hear what having two 6 pole filters with dynamic cutoff sounds like. These are just starting suggestions. Use your imagination to find new applications for this. (chorus with feedback=127 => big distortion => big filters = ??????). -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 21:06:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:06:24 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus idea of the day + fun with cables Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >1......sure, that was pretty cool, but I was expecting something a little more far out.....what am I doing wrong? I used different sounds for both parts but got relatively the same effect every time.... ... part 2 does *not* use its oscillators. Instead, ensure INPUT is set to AUX 1 L+R. This disables the oscillators for this part, and instead uses the AUX1 audio stream in place of the OSCs. Also, make double-sure that OUTPUT for part 1 is set to AUX 1 L+R. (you have to be in Multi-mode to do any of this). So the determinant of most of the sound characteristic is set by part 1 (with OSCs and stuff), and more effects are provided by part 2 (distortion, filters, etc). sorry if I misunderstood the problem... zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 21:24:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:24:24 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: banging vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >I too experience the same problem. I've noticed that I really have to crank up my inputs to the vocoder to get a reasonable output level and when that BANG goes off - yikes! not part of the banging solution, but if you have to turn up the INPUT BOOST to get a good output signal, you're not giving enough signal to the inputs. The Virus expects a line-level signal at its inputs. Don't plug a mic or guitar directly into the Virus -- The signal is too weak. Instead, use a preamp or a small mixer to bring the level up. I've got two Mackie 1202VLZs, so I just run the main outs from one mixer into the Virus input. The Virus output goes to the other mixer, then to my monitors. Turning up the INPUT BOOST puts quite a bit of hiss in the output signal, since the boost occurs after the signal has been converted to digital. Moral: Feed as strong a signal as possible into the Virus (short of clipping) for the best possible sound. -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 21:49:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:48:52 EDT Subject: Re: virus idea of the day + fun with cables To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com I'm not sure exactly what you are doing, but the multi-chain should look something like this: Part 1 any sound in the virus || [AUX 1 L+R] || Part 2 any of the input patches || [AUX 2 L+R] || Part 3 any of the input patches || [OUT 2 L+R] || cables [EXT IN L+R] || Part 4 any of the input patches || [OUT 1] You can get 3 more input patches by going mono: Part 1 || [AUX 1 L] || Part 2 || [AUX 1 R] etc... Hope this helps! * From Guy Incognito << I messed with your little idea and didn't get much more than an ambient wind sound that accompanied part 1......sure, that was pretty cool, but I was expecting something a little more far out.....what am I doing wrong? I used different sounds for both parts but got relatively the same effect every time.... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated....thanks... Gel-Sol >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 22:18:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Fw: Virus TDM Plugin... Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:17:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" Have you guys heard about the Virus TDM Plugin coming for Protools? Not that any of us could afford a Protools system,but a Virus Plugin is a killer oncept. The hype says that you can run up to 5, 16 voice (multi-timbral) modules for 80 Virus voices.. Rick ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 22:34:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Re: FX Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:34:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > >Phasers are the dogs bollocks on analogue sounds, the generally weedy Yamaha >AN1x scores over the Virus in respect of its implementation of an OK sounding >phaser in its FX section. Are there technical reasons why the Virus' FX couldn't be made to do phasing? I agree wholeheartly! The A3000 has the same engine as the AN1x and definitely has a very good analogue sounding phaser...I often let my other instruments play thru it just for the phaser :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 00:40:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:37:54 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Re: FX Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco So Christoph, Do you have plans to implement a phaser in the Virus any time soon? Moho On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Marcel Engels wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >> >>Phasers are the dogs bollocks on analogue sounds, the generally weedy >Yamaha >>AN1x scores over the Virus in respect of its implementation of an OK >sounding >>phaser in its FX section. Are there technical reasons why the Virus' FX couldn't be made to do phasing? > >I agree wholeheartly! >The A3000 has the same engine as the AN1x and definitely has a very good analogue sounding phaser...I often let my other instruments play thru it just for the phaser :-) > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 01:34:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:46:47 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Phaser Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw its allready there......use the flanger with a negative feedback setting weld Moho Disco wrote: >* From Moho Disco > >So Christoph, >Do you have plans to implement a phaser in the Virus any time soon? > >Moho > >On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Marcel Engels wrote: > >>* From "Marcel Engels" >> >>>* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>> >>>Phasers are the dogs bollocks on analogue sounds, the generally weedy >>Yamaha >>>AN1x scores over the Virus in respect of its implementation of an OK >>sounding >>>phaser in its FX section. Are there technical reasons why the Virus' FX couldn't be made to do phasing? >> >>I agree wholeheartly! >>The A3000 has the same engine as the AN1x and definitely has a very good analogue sounding phaser...I often let my other instruments play thru it just for the phaser :-) >> >>Marcel >>Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 05:20:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "John David Miller" To: Subject: Re: TDM Plugin... Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:34:28 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "John David Miller" of course, you retain some $$ value in your virus hardware, even after it's "obsolete" - software synths, unfortuntately, have a depreciation curve approaching instantaneous zero. even when they're not "obsolete." not that i don't own soft synths -- i use soundfonts on my Emu APS (after selling my EIV) and Gigasampler. i have no illusions of getting anything for either product when i'm done with it. while i'm on the subject of the value of software, i have a real beef with sample libraries, which try to claim "license fee" as opposed to ownership, such that i supposedly can't sell my $400 sample CDs to someone else when i'm tired of them. yeah, right. try proving that in court. -- jdm ----- Original Message ----- From: K.9 Kai Niggemann To: Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 3:39 AM Subject: Re: TDM Plugin... >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:43 PM -0700 on 19.09.1999 Jared Vogt wrote: >>* From Jared Vogt >> >>For those of you with Protools... >> >>...and the upcoming Access Virus TDM plug-in... from Digidesign site (http://www.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/frames.cgi?/news/press/press49.html ). Very Interesting. > > > >Actually there is more here: > >http://www.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/frames.cgi?/news/press/press50.html > > >I also put a link on my site... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 06:38:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Codling Subject: sample cds, reselling, licenses, etc. To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stephen Codling yeah, does anybody know of any cases that have been launched over these issues??? i've always found this very bizarre. i can understand anti-piracy so that you can't copy the cd's, but what is this license business? in all their legal stuff they always say basically "cd is only the medium, you don't own it, just a license", but they are definitely marketed as SAMPLE CDs. me thinks this poses a bit of a problem for their "legal" credibility, but i'm no lawyer. i also wonder about the legality of non-transferable licenses which are non-returnable after the product is opened, but the legal stuff is in very small print and often inside!!! they should at least do what software companies do: "if you break this seal and open this product you are agreeing to the following..." That would at least make sense... steve >while i'm on the subject of the value of software, i have a real beef with >sample libraries, which try to claim "license fee" as opposed to ownership, >such that i supposedly can't sell my $400 sample CDs to someone else when >i'm tired of them. yeah, right. try proving that in court. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 04:08:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "ruthless?!?!" To: "virus headz" Subject: my virus!! Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:11:36 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "ruthless?!?!" i just got my virus today. lets just say its easier to list what i dont like: 1.) justin ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 08:25:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: stephens@pop.ricochet.net Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:23:26 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Ron Stephens Subject: Re: TDM Plugin... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ron Stephens I don't think this is what they're saying, exactly. They're claiming that you have only licensed the material. I agree with that. The license is usually tranferrable, when the CD is sold. When you license the material, they are stating that they are retaining control over the material such that you may not copy it in such a way that more than one person may use it at a time, concurrently. In other words, if you copy it and give the copy to a friend, you have violated the terms of the license. If you copy it for your own backup, this is entirely legitimate, and does not violate the terms of the license. If you copy it and sell/give BOTH copies to a friend, then you have transferred the license, and you are STILL not in violation of the license, unless the license is marked as non-transferable, which I would believe they would have a hard time convincing a court that this is valid unless it is clear BEFORE you pay your money for it. If you copy it, and sell/give the original to a friend BUT KEEP a copy, you STILL have violated the license. -ron At 08:34 PM 09/22/1999 -0700, you wrote: * From "John David Miller" of course, you retain some $$ value in your virus hardware, even after it's "obsolete" - software synths, unfortuntately, have a depreciation curve approaching instantaneous zero. even when they're not "obsolete." not that i don't own soft synths -- i use soundfonts on my Emu APS (after selling my EIV) and Gigasampler. i have no illusions of getting anything for either product when i'm done with it. while i'm on the subject of the value of software, i have a real beef with sample libraries, which try to claim "license fee" as opposed to ownership, such that i supposedly can't sell my $400 sample CDs to someone else when i'm tired of them. yeah, right. try proving that in court. -- jdm ----- Original Message ----- From: K.9 Kai Niggemann To: Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 3:39 AM Subject: Re: TDM Plugin... >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:43 PM -0700 on 19.09.1999 Jared Vogt wrote: >>* From Jared Vogt >> >>For those of you with Protools... >> >>...and the upcoming Access Virus TDM plug-in... from Digidesign site (http://www.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/frames.cgi?/news/press/press49.html ). Very Interesting. > > > >Actually there is more here: > >http://www.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/frames.cgi?/news/press/press50.html > > >I also put a link on my site... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 09:31:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Sample licenses Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:28:12 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi John, Stephen, >not that i don't own soft synths -- i use soundfonts on my Emu APS (after selling my EIV) and Gigasampler. The APS is hardware, there's a card & DSP chip. Albeit there may be some software-type issues involved in using it :-) You tried running samples thru the Virus? >sample libraries, which try to claim "license fee" as opposed to ownership, such that i supposedly can't sell my $400 sample CDs to someone else when i'm tired of them. They not only claim it, it's the case. Since there can (potentially) be a lot of money made/ saved for big productions, they want each artist/ producer to pay. For hobby-level use, I don't think there are any worries with resale or sharing with friends. But if one of the songs starts to make money... Best make sure everything is clear. >i also wonder about the legality of non-transferable licenses which are non-returnable after the product is opened, but the legal stuff is in very small print and often inside!!! If the license is inside, the product is either returnable or license invalid. AFAIK these licenses have been tested in court and are no longer the practice in the software industry :-) Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 10:45:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:44:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Codling Subject: Re: TDM Plugin... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stephen Codling >* From Ron Stephens I don't think this is what they're saying, exactly. They're claiming that you have only licensed the material. I agree with >that. The license is usually tranferrable, when the CD is sold. When you Actually, that is what they're saying. At least that was what the guy was saying to me as he was threatening to sue me if i didn't take my sample cd's off of ebay. He said directly that they only license me to use the sounds and that said license is completely non-transferrable. steve. ===== }<>((*> PLAYING: http://www.youngchang.com/kurzweil/html/kmp-1.html LISTENING: http://www.internations.net/us/joyelectric/audio.html READING: http://www.sherlockholmes.com/sherlock/story/story.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 10:47:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:47:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Codling Subject: Re: Sample licenses To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stephen Codling >For hobby-level use, I don't think there are any worries with resale or >sharing with friends. But if one of the songs starts to make money... Best >make sure everything is clear. that's what i used to think (ie. you're okay as long as your song doesn't make money sort of thing), but at least one company is going after the individuals on ebay etc. who try to resell them after they've had their fun... steve. ===== }<>((*> PLAYING: http://www.youngchang.com/kurzweil/html/kmp-1.html LISTENING: http://www.internations.net/us/joyelectric/audio.html READING: http://www.sherlockholmes.com/sherlock/story/story.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 12:19:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Joe Frost" To: Subject: RE: The Great Sample CD Swindle Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:17:30 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Joe Frost" >Actually, that is what they're saying. At least that was what the guy was saying to me as he was threatening to sue me if i didn't take my sample cd's off of ebay. > >He said directly that they only license me to use the sounds and that said license is completely non-transferrable. So then they're selling you the license, how do you stand if you own a studio and make your sampler and samples available to any clients that you have? Also, if it's the license that they care about, presumably they would supply you with replacement media for just the duplication cost if your media was damaged e.g. in a fire. Joe. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 12:19:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Joe Frost" To: Subject: RE: The Great Sample CD Swindle II Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:18:47 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Joe Frost" >Actually, that is what they're saying. At least that was what the guy was saying to me as he was threatening to sue me if i didn't take my sample cd's off of ebay. > >He said directly that they only license me to use the sounds and that said license is completely non-transferrable. PS. What CDs have you got? I might be interested. Joe. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 13:32:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:32:25 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: List: Access Subject: vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! I've just experienced something weird: the vocoder output can go stereo only. Is this intentional? (it sounds great btw!) thanx jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 18:11:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#mail.nwlink.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:43:46 -0400 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: sample cds, reselling, licenses, etc. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick At 09:38 PM 9/22/99 -0700, Stephen Codling wrote >* From Stephen Codling >in all their legal stuff they always say basically "cd is only the medium, you don't own it, just a license", but they are definitely marketed as SAMPLE CDs. me thinks this poses a bit of a problem for their "legal" credibility, but i'm no lawyer. >i also wonder about the legality of non-transferable licenses which are non-returnable after the product is opened, but the legal stuff is in very small print and often inside!!! they should at least do what software companies do: "if you break this seal and open this product you are agreeing to the following..." That would at least make sense... (Sorry if the following is a touch off topic...) Actually, at least under United States copyright law, the doctrine of First Sale would likely apply here (see 32 United Stated Code sec.109). This provides that a (c) owner has the right to control the initial sale or distribution of a physical copy of a work, but once title to that physical embodiment changes hands, US (c) law forbids the (c) owner from preventing the purchaser of the original work from reselling the physical copy of the work. A book is a great example. When you buy a book, you *own* the physical copy of the work. You *don't* own the creative expression contained in the book. Hence, you're free to sell the book to a friend, or to your local used bookstore. However, you're *not* free to copy the words in the book for use in your upcoming novel. Granted, two parties can contract to just about anything they want to. And unfortunately, shrinkwrap licenses--one of the great scourges of our time, if you ask me--have been found to be largely enforceable (again, at least in the US). It's only going to get worse, now that the UCITA (Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act) has been passed by the National Commission on Uniform State Laws. In essence--"Fuck the consumer." However, I'm willing to wager that just about any competent court (I speak only for the US, mind you), would find that you could resell the CD as you see fit, shrinkwrap license or no. All the creator of the sample CD has is a copyright in the samples contained on the CD. They certainly can attach restrictions to your use of those samples in your own work, but they probably can't prevent you from reselling your copy of the actual CD. Therefore, I think that the purveyors of those $400 sample CDs are likely full of shit. -Marc Visnick marc@jli.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 15:38:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:35:11 +0200 From: canine To: Rick Reyes X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00001976 Subject: RE: FWD: Virus TDM Plugin... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From canine Well, hm, yes, but wasn't there a concept of the Virus being pretty neat because it has all the knobs and buttons right there? Voices are great, but for me the analog in the virtual has a lot to do with the way the thing works live... But then again, I don't own a Pro Tools system anyway... >===== Original Message From Rick Reyes ===== * From "Rick Reyes" > >Have you guys heard about the Virus TDM Plugin coming for Protools? Not that any of us could afford a Protools system,but a Virus Plugin is a killer oncept. The hype says that you can run up to 5, 16 voice (multi-timbral) modules for 80 Virus voices.. > > >Rick > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** -- -"He's the next Michael Bergin!" -"Whos the last Michael Bergin??" glamorama)) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 15:37:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:38:17 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fw: Virus DSP X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: >* > >By the way, any fans of the famous SHARC DSPs on the list? No company ever showed that the SHARC is even half as powerfull as the contemporary Motorola DSP. Simply count the voices and the number of Osc's and Filters each voice and the number of DSP's that are used. Please tell it the world. I'm pretty sick of this "powerful SHARC" story. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper Hi ! Yes,right.I can remember we talked about it. See the Scopeboard from creamware.This Card is a Joke.With 15(good) DSP Chips you can make a Spaceshuttle flying to the moon;-().I think even the Pulsar isn«t able to simulate a virus with all its power.And that with only one Motorola DSP. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 16:38:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Fw: Virus TDM Plugin... Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:37:22 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" Hey Christoph, I know squat about DSP Chips, but it does seem that Motorola is still the choice. I have heard that Motorola have a new BAD ASS on the way. Do you know anything about it? Rick > >By the way, any fans of the famous SHARC DSPs on the list? No company ever showed that the SHARC is even half as powerfull as the contemporary Motorola >DSP. Simply count the voices and the number of Osc's and Filters each voice and the number of DSP's that are used. Please tell it the world. I'm pretty sick of this "powerful SHARC" story. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 16:49:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: vocoder Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:48:01 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" I ran accross this limitation before, and brought it up on the list. I can't remember what the response was... Rick >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >I've just experienced something weird: >the vocoder output can go stereo only. >Is this intentional? > >(it sounds great btw!) > >thanx >jasper >-- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 17:54:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:13:11 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FWD: Virus TDM Plugin... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver If you can afford a ProTool system you should be able to buy a Regelwerk too i think . ;) Oli canine schrieb: >* From canine > >Well, hm, yes, but wasn't there a concept of the Virus being pretty neat because it has all the knobs and buttons right there? Voices are great, but for me the analog in the virtual has a lot to do with the way the thing works live... > >But then again, I don't own a Pro Tools system anyway... > >>===== Original Message From Rick Reyes ===== * From "Rick Reyes" >> >>Have you guys heard about the Virus TDM Plugin coming for Protools? Not that any of us could afford a Protools system,but a Virus Plugin is a killer oncept. The hype says that you can run up to 5, 16 voice (multi-timbral) modules for 80 Virus voices.. >> >> >>Rick >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > >-- >-"He's the next Michael Bergin!" >-"Whos the last Michael Bergin??" >glamorama)) > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 17:22:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:24:49 +0000 Subject: Virus B Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Here in the UK I read in this months "Sound on Sound" that there is a "DSP upgrade" due out for the Virus enabling it to become 16 voice polyphonic. The way the piece is written very much implies that current virus owners will be able to upgrade their current machines rather than that a new more capable version of the Virus is due out shortly. I can only assume that the distributors (Turnkey) have provided this misleading information to prevent themselves being lumbered with a load of unsaleable Virus A s while people hang on for the Virus B to become available (call me cynical). Or is there such an upgrade in the pipeline? I would describe this kind of thing as sharp practice. Comments anyone? - particularly Access. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 22 17:23:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: MYKE7777@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:27:16 +0000 Subject: Re: how do you create a good sub bass tone? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >* From MYKE7777@aol.com > >hello. >im doing a lot of r&b and rap for some reason. just wondering how to create a good sub bass sound. like th SE-1. thanks for your help. sincerely >mike g. Buy an SE1. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 20:53:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:07:08 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Chrono Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chrono At 20:41 9/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From bigw > >someone asked earlier about a basic analog synthesis guide and wizoo just came out with a great one www.wizoo.com Ehhhmmmm.... I have an addittion to make to this tip. At the SuperNova pages at the Novation-site, the OS 3.0 manual is online (PDF-document of 1MB) in the download section. The first chapter explains synthesis, different kinds of filters and what they do, etc... Excuse me for posting this in "our" Acces-list, but I think for some it's very usefull information (for me it explained what a COMB filter is and does ;-) Bye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 19:10:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Phaser Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:10:55 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > >This doesn't sound the same as a phaser to me. Exactly! It also doesn't sound the same...not even close. a negative flanger is not a phaser! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl >>* From bigw >> >>its allready there......use the flanger with a negative feedback setting weld >> >>Moho Disco wrote: >> >>>* From Moho Disco >>> >>>So Christoph, >>>Do you have plans to implement a phaser in the Virus any time soon? >>> >>>Moho >>> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 19:42:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: shehryar@mail.sirius.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:42:02 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Shehryar Lasi Subject: Re: Phaser Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Shehryar Lasi * From "Marcel Engels" Exactly! It also doesn't sound the same...not even close. a negative flanger is not a phaser! Here's what Christoph said about this a while back: At 10:57 AM -0500 3/28/99, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: > >Flanging is no problem, but phasing too??? I haven't been able to make a decent phaser with it. (read: analog sounding) That's right. A classic phaser is made by filters, not by a delay line (like a chorus) The filter-bandstop-mode (notch) comes pretty close to that character, as Ronald already mentioned. BTW: It's weird that Novation pretends that the Supernova is capable to produce real phaser sounds (it's the chorus solution). But Supernova users don't really seem to care. :) Ciao Christoph Kemper -Shehryar ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 20:15:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Phaser Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:15:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Shehryar Lasi > >Here's what Christoph said about this a while back: > >>That's right. >>A classic phaser is made by filters, not by a delay line (like a chorus) The >>filter-bandstop-mode (notch) comes pretty close to that character, as Ronald >>already mentioned. Yes, I remember it. And it comes closer to a phaser sound then the negative flanger thing... Ah, I guess I'm too picky about a phaser 'sound'...but then again for me it's absolutely part of some (virtual) analog sounds! And comparing the A3000 phaser (and don't forget to set it to 0 degrees - at least only then I hear that classic sound, not when it's set at 180) to the notch...well then you can definitely hear a difference... Hmmm maybe Access could make a whole range of virtual analog effects units :-) Christoph...aren't you getting crazy from customers like me :-) It's never okay... Well...I want to correct that...the Virus is okay...in fact it's fantastic! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 20:36:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "T@nk3" To: Subject: ..referring to "SHARK" Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:24:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "T@nk3" >By the way, any fans of the famous SHARC DSPs on the list? No company ever showed that the SHARC is even half as powerfull as the contemporary Motorola >DSP. Simply count the voices and the number of Osc's and Filters each voice >and the number of DSP's that are used. Please tell it the world. I'm pretty sick of this "powerful SHARC" story. Doesn«t the pulsar work with shark dsp«s `???? does that mean the pulsar would be much better with motorola chips if this is true ? cheerz T@nk3 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 20:44:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:44:09 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Phaser Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Moho Disco Yeah, But what if I want to use my filters for something else? Moho On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Shehryar Lasi wrote: >* From Shehryar Lasi > >>* From "Marcel Engels" >> >>Exactly! It also doesn't sound the same...not even close. a negative flanger is not a phaser! >> > >Here's what Christoph said about this a while back: > >At 10:57 AM -0500 3/28/99, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >>> >>>Flanging is no problem, but phasing too??? I haven't been able to make a decent phaser with it. (read: analog >>sounding) >> >>That's right. >>A classic phaser is made by filters, not by a delay line (like a chorus) The filter-bandstop-mode (notch) comes pretty close to that character, as Ronald already mentioned. >> >>BTW: It's weird that Novation pretends that the Supernova is capable to produce real phaser sounds (it's the chorus solution). But Supernova users don't really seem to care. :) >> >>Ciao >>Christoph Kemper > > >-Shehryar > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 21:49:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:47:54 EDT Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ShawnClear@aol.com hi, << Excuse me for posting this in "our" Acces-list, but I think for some it's very usefull information (for me it explained what a COMB filter is and does ;-) >> note that the supernova gives a comb filter *effect*, not an actual comb filter like the waldorf q... later, shawn shawnclear@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 21:52:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:52:29 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Phaser Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Yeah, >But what if I want to use my filters for something else? > >Moho then you set up a 'phaser' input patch that listens to AUX 1 L+R, and send the output of whatever you want phased to AUX1 L+R. That way, you can use your two filters for the sound, and two more for the phaser effect (along with better distortion, etc.) ... see my previous emails on this subject. zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 22:30:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:36:28 -0400 Subject: test From: "Eloy Anzola" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Eloy Anzola" this is a test please ignore. ------ leaddaet@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~leaddaet ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 23 23:13:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:24:08 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Phaser Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bigw just tryin to help why cant we just by a cool phaser plugin or foodpedal? weld Marcel Engels wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >> >>This doesn't sound the same as a phaser to me. > >Exactly! It also doesn't sound the same...not even close. a negative flanger is not a phaser! > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl > >>>* From bigw >>> >>>its allready there......use the flanger with a negative feedback setting weld >>> >>>Moho Disco wrote: >>> >>>>* From Moho Disco >>>> >>>>So Christoph, >>>>Do you have plans to implement a phaser in the Virus any time soon? >>>> >>>>Moho >>>> >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ><** >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 00:11:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:09:16 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Stefan Trippler" I'd like to know the difference between a comb filter effect and an actual comb filter. Thx Stefan -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: An: Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. September 1999 21:47 Betreff: Re: basic help in synthesis >* From ShawnClear@aol.com > >hi, > ><< Excuse me for posting this in "our" Acces-list, but I think for some it's >very usefull information (for me it explained what a COMB filter is and does >;-) >> > >note that the supernova gives a comb filter *effect*, not an actual comb filter like the waldorf q... > >later, > >shawn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 00:35:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:34:28 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Phaser Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >just tryin to help >why cant we just by a cool phaser plugin or foodpedal? weld hurrah! My personal feelings: Resources are scarce. Something that does everything *cannot* do everything well. Ever hear the English idiom "Jack of all trades, master of none"? I'm absolutely amazed that the Virus can do everything that it currently does, and so well. Though if it included a sequencer, phaser, Leslie simulator, 808/303 infrared sync port, turbocharger, etc, etc, etc, then maybe Christoph wouldn't have time to implement a radical new filter algorithm or OSC modes or something else directly pertaining to sound *generation* (this *is* a synthesizer, right?). I see the value in user 'wishlists' ... it gives Access input about what we want. But it is foolish to hope that the Virus will eliminate 99% of the gear in your studio. -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 00:54:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:52:55 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Chrono Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chrono At 15:47 9/23/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From ShawnClear@aol.com > >hi, > ><< Excuse me for posting this in "our" Acces-list, but I think for some it's very usefull information (for me it explained what a COMB filter is and does ;-) >> > >note that the supernova gives a comb filter *effect*, not an actual comb filter like the waldorf q... Whatever you say, man..... ;-) I stumbled across the name several times at several synths, so it was nice to finally read something about it.... Byebye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 00:54:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:53:25 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Chrono Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chrono Oh boy, what have I started? ;-() At 00:09 9/24/99 +0200, you wrote: >* From "Stefan Trippler" > >I'd like to know the difference between a comb filter effect and an actual comb filter. > >Thx Stefan > >-----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- >Von: >An: >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. September 1999 21:47 Betreff: Re: basic help in synthesis > > >>* From ShawnClear@aol.com >> >>hi, >> >><< Excuse me for posting this in "our" Acces-list, but I think for some >it's >>very usefull information (for me it explained what a COMB filter is and >does >>;-) >> >> >>note that the supernova gives a comb filter *effect*, not an actual comb filter like the waldorf q... >> >>later, >> >>shawn > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 01:20:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mimmo Vitrano" To: Subject: test Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:19:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness This is a test please ignore X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 01:36:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mimmo Vitrano" To: Subject: test Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:34:13 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness This is a test please ignore X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 02:03:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mimmo Vitrano" To: Subject: HELLO EVERYBODY Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:01:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Is there anybody Italian-speaking out there? I'm new in the list and i wait in mailing in order to avoid writing thing you've already spoken. As far as concern the Virus itself is very great and I enjoy it every time I Switch on it. Peace......... X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 03:23:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Sample licenses Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:20:13 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Stephen, >that's what i used to think (ie. you're okay as long as your song doesn't make money sort of thing), but at least one company is going after the individuals on ebay etc. who try to resell them after they've had their fun... Might be better to sell them in a more private venue then. Or sell them as the media... without the license. You own the CD on which the material exists. You can do whatever you want with that. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 09:12:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "a l i + +" To: Subject: Re: HELLO EVERYBODY Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:10:28 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "a l i + +" <<< Is there anybody Italian-speaking out there? I'm new in the list and i wait in mailing in order to avoid writing thing you've already spoken. As far as concern the Virus itself is very great and I enjoy it every time I Switch on it. Peace......... >>> mail me personally. /*io parlo italiano/ i speak italian*/ cheers ali ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 09:42:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:42:56 +0200 Subject: Re: Phaser Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:44:09 -0500 (EST), Moho Disco wrote: >* From Moho Disco > >Yeah, > But what if I want to use my filters for something else? Use an external phaser. In a MULTI environment you can put the delay to zero delay time and route its output to an analog out. Connect your Phaser and use an external mixer for the phasers' output. You can use the delay balance to fade between clean and phased signal. The other parts of your MULTI environment remain unchanged. CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 18:19:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:21:24 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: basic help in synthesis Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Stefan Trippler wrote: >I'd like to know the difference between a comb filter effect and an actual comb filter. An "actual comb filter" would be a filter type, which is part of the voice. So in addition to the low pass, high pass choices, you would have comb. A "comb filter effect" would be placed after the mixer. So in addition of chorus and delay. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 16:19:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ..referring to "SHARK" Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:04:05 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >the effectivity of the Motorola DSP's is about three or four times (!) higher. What about the price? With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager and Betatest Coordinator (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 16:47:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:46:28 +0200 (MEST) From: Kaspar Thommen To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ..referring to "SHARK" X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001105152@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.186.9.25] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kaspar Thommen >>Doesn«t the pulsar work with shark dsp«s `???? does that mean the pulsar would be much better with motorola chips if this is true ? >Possible. But this is not only the choice of the processor but also the quality of the programming. If you compare the number of >synth voices on a VA synth and the Pulsar, the effectivity of the >Motorola DSP's is about three or four times (!) higher. >Ciao >Christoph Kemper Hi Christoph, some weeks ago you answered to my question, why there won't be a modular Virs, that a modular system would need up to 3 or 4 times more calculuation power to manage the modularity BUT: The Pulsar IS a modular System, and as we all know it effectively needs 3 or 4 times more calculation power, so there's nothing special about it...?!?! Kaspar -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 24 19:25:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:45:28 +0200 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Query Virus Disk Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Hey all , I wondered why at the disk which came with the Virus is the Emagic logo . The only thing i had on it was the update to 2.51 . Should there have been a Sounddiverspecification for the Virus ??? Or even Logic or microLogic ? Oli ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 25 15:20:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:27:09 +0200 From: Jšrg Wessels X-Accept-Language: de, en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: kWeScHuN Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Wessels What does "kWeScHuN" mean? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 25 14:25:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mimmo Vitrano" To: Subject: ARPEGGIATOR Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 14:21:41 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Among the other things.....what about new arpeggiator-styles in the next O.S. upgrade? Respect, :-) X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 25 19:09:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:07:16 EDT Subject: Re: kWeScHuN To: access-list@teklab.com, joerg.wessels@lycosmail.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 9/25/99 8:31:35 AM, joerg.wessels@lycosmail.com writes: >What does "kWeScHuN" mean? I would guess it is an "alternative" spelling of "question!" -Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 25 20:30:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:29:12 +0200 From: Jšrg Wessels X-Accept-Language: de, en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: kWeScHuN Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Wessels Marzzz@aol.com schrieb: >I would guess it is an "alternative" spelling of "question!" You don't need to tell me twice. I'm not that stupid:) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 26 00:16:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 23:59:15 +0200 From: Sander Wesseling To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Sander Wesseling ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 26 23:55:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Tom" To: Subject: Virus price... what did u pay? Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 22:50:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Tom" Hi, I live in London, but i might consider buying my Virus abroad to save some cash and have a little holiday at the same time (i need one).... so i was wondering what kinda prices i should expect to pay in mainland Europe??? And did anyone get a good price for a Virus on its own in the UK? Cheers Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 27 10:13:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Query Virus Disk Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:59:25 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >I wondered why at the disk which came with the Virus is the Emagic logo ?!? With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager and Betatest Coordinator (Windows) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 27 10:12:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "a l i + +" To: Subject: Re: Virus price... what did u pay? Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:11:23 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "a l i + +" >* From "Tom" > >Hi, >I live in London, but i might consider buying my Virus abroad to save some cash and have a little holiday at the same time (i need one).... so i was wondering what kinda prices i should expect to pay in mainland Europe??? > >And did anyone get a good price for a Virus on its own in the UK? > >Cheers >Tom. about 2580 euro at www.musicians-gear.com cheers ali ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 27 15:28:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:27:04 +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus price... what did u pay? X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) a l i + + schrieb: >* From "a l i + +" > >>* From "Tom" >> >>Hi, >>I live in London, but i might consider buying my Virus abroad to save some cash and have a little holiday at the same time (i need one).... so i was wondering what kinda prices i should expect to pay in mainland Europe??? >> >>And did anyone get a good price for a Virus on its own in the UK? >> >>Cheers >>Tom. > >about 2580 euro at www.musicians-gear.com > >cheers > >ali > 2580 EURO ? This is nearly 5000 DM.I can`t believe that.The Price in Germany is around 1150 Euro for the Virus and 1450 for the b version.The kb is around 1700 Euro.So I think you mean 1580 Euro. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 27 16:43:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "BeSchue" To: Subject: Re: Virus price... what did u pay? Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:45:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "BeSchue" I«d sell my 8 weeks old Virus A, in absolute excellent condition and - almost - full warranty for 950 Euro or 1880DM. Greetings Bernhard -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jens Wegerhoff An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Montag, 27. September 1999 14:29 Betreff: Re: Virus price... what did u pay? >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > > > >a l i + + schrieb: > >>* From "a l i + +" >> >>>* From "Tom" >>> >>>Hi, >>>I live in London, but i might consider buying my Virus abroad to save some >>>cash and have a little holiday at the same time (i need one).... so i was >>>wondering what kinda prices i should expect to pay in mainland Europe??? >>> >>>And did anyone get a good price for a Virus on its own in the UK? >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 27 20:40:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "a l i + +" To: Subject: Re: Virus price... what did u pay? Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:38:18 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "a l i + +" ----- Original Message ----- From: Jens Wegerhoff To: Sent: luned“ 27 settembre 1999 15.27 Subject: Re: Virus price... what did u pay? >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > > > >a l i + + schrieb: > >>* From "a l i + +" >> >>>* From "Tom" >>> >>>Hi, >>>I live in London, but i might consider buying my Virus abroad to save some >>>cash and have a little holiday at the same time (i need one).... so i was >>>wondering what kinda prices i should expect to pay in mainland Europe??? >>> >>>And did anyone get a good price for a Virus on its own in the UK? >>> >>>Cheers >>>Tom. >> >>about 2580 euro at www.musicians-gear.com >> >>cheers >> >>ali >> > >2580 EURO ? > >This is nearly 5000 DM.I can`t believe that.The Price in Germany is around 1150 >Euro for the Virus and 1450 for >the b version.The kb is around 1700 Euro.So I think you mean 1580 Euro. > >Stay Fresh > >Jens W. sorry.. i meant 2580 DM this is substantially less than what you pay in normal music shops, i think, even www.music-city.de sorry for the qui pro quo ali ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 27 22:49:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: Virus price... what did u pay? Date: Mon, 27 Sep 99 22:48:04 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" i guess you ment DM instead of Euro, means DM 2850.- kind regards, marc (at least this is the price www.music-city.de is advertising. and talking about prices from abroad: don't forget to add your local VAT. in many coutries it's a common behavoir to advertise prices without VAT.) a l i + + (vent@teklab.com) wrote on 27.09.1999 10:11 Uhr : >>And did anyone get a good price for a Virus on its own in the UK? >> >>Cheers >>Tom. > >about 2580 euro at www.musicians-gear.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 28 12:07:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:02:02 +0200 (MEST) From: Kaspar Thommen To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Latency? X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001105152@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.186.38.225] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kaspar Thommen Hi, I wonder how much latency the virus has, i.e. the time between the Midi-trigger and the sound. I'm asking this, because when using drum-sounds from the virus I never get a clean timing, the virus is a litte "late". So I always had to sample the sounds and trigger them in the sampler which gives a much better timing. Kaspar -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 01:28:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:35:30 +0000 From: Jason Simmons To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason Simmons Jasper de Jong wrote: >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >The noise my Virus outputs just makes me mad. I've been doing a little check: replugging the adaptor, unplugging other machines, nothing helps. This isn't 'normal' noise, but a really high 'squeek'. It makes no difference if I completely turn down the mastervolume (!), the noise is still there. I reset my virus and reloaded my patches, no difference. I'm absolutely sure this isn't about the input parameters (the volumeknob would turn down the noise then). I think it has to do with power (se-50's are known to be noise with the wrong adaptor). > >Please help! >jasper >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** 'Your noise problem could be coming from another unit (if you have other equipment, that is) ... I had a really old Yamah synth module that put a low frequency hum on everything plugged into the same power line... might want to check what else you have plugged in, could even be you have some kind of grounding problem somewhere in your rig, but I don't know too much about that stuff... Jason Simmons ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 28 23:13:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:11:40 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: List: Access Subject: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! The noise my Virus outputs just makes me mad. I've been doing a little check: replugging the adaptor, unplugging other machines, nothing helps. This isn't 'normal' noise, but a really high 'squeek'. It makes no difference if I completely turn down the mastervolume (!), the noise is still there. I reset my virus and reloaded my patches, no difference. I'm absolutely sure this isn't about the input parameters (the volumeknob would turn down the noise then). I think it has to do with power (se-50's are known to be noise with the wrong adaptor). Please help! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 01:49:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: i42575@inet.uni2.dk Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:52:58 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Michael Subject: Re: Latency? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Michael I use the virus for drums as well, and I have close to O (zero) latency. Maybe you have your midi setup in a big serial connection?? - That can really slow things down. If you do, you should get a Midi Interface like for example Unitor 8 from Emagic... I have.... Michael. ----------------------- >Hi, >I wonder how much latency the virus has, i.e. the time between the Midi-trigger and the sound. >I'm asking this, because when using drum-sounds from the virus I never get a clean timing, the virus is a litte "late". So I always had to sample the sounds and trigger them in the sampler which gives a much better timing. > > >Kaspar > >-- >Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 08:04:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:03:50 +0200 (MEST) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Re: Latency? From: Kaspar Thommen X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001105152@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.186.8.163] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kaspar Thommen >* From Michael > >I use the virus for drums as well, and I have close to O (zero) latency. Maybe you have your midi setup in a big serial connection?? - That can really slow things down. If you do, you should get a Midi Interface like for example Unitor 8 from Emagic... I have.... > >Michael. > No, not at all. The virus is directly connected to a MIDI patchbay which ist directly connected to my good old Atari, as well as my sampler, so there is no difference in the MIDI connection between virus and sampler. But I still hear a very short delay which normally isnt' audible, except when I'm using percussive sounds. Kaspar -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 12:04:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:40:51 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Re: Latency? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" No, not at all. The virus is directly connected to a MIDI patchbay which ist directly connected to my good old Atari, as well as my sampler, so there is no difference in the MIDI connection between virus and sampler. But I still hear a very short delay which normally isnt' audible, except when I'm using percussive sounds. Could it be that the patchbay assigns different priorities to different outputs? I have used a shitty midi interface before and got very bad timing. I'm back to my trusty MTP II (Mac) now and things are grooving along nicely. The Studio 4 (opcode) just screwed everything up, big time...! so you might want to eliminate that thing first: connect the virus directly to the Atari's midi out. Don't connect the Midi out of the Virus to anything. Use it in single mode. Or switch the outputs around on the patchbay. I haven't had any latency problems using the Virus. Make sure there is nothing inside the virus modulating things. (Mod matrix on the amp attack maybe? That could create a nasty drift. Maybe you are set to 100% delay? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 13:21:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:16:54 +0200 (MEST) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Latency? From: Kaspar Thommen X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001105152@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.186.39.151] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kaspar Thommen Could it be that the patchbay assigns different priorities to different outputs? No. so you might want to eliminate that thing first: connect the virus directly to the Atari's midi out. Don't connect the Midi out of the Virus to anything. Use it in single mode. Ah, maybe that's the problem. Maybe there's a difference in latency between multi and single mode. I remember some postings here that there were differences in the sound in multi and single mode. I will check this. I haven't had any latency problems using the Virus. Even with important percussion sounds such as bass drums? Make sure there is nothing inside the virus modulating things. (Mod matrix on the amp attack maybe? That could create a nasty drift. Maybe you are set to 100% delay? No modulation, no delay, sorry ;-) Kaspar -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 13:27:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: Re: Latency? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 99 13:26:05 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" hi kasper, most samplers don't have a better timing than the virus (exept digidesign's sample cell etc.). when you talk about the systems latency itself, sure there is one (anyway how big it is). do you play live with your virus or do you play into the atari and just trigger the virus by the atari? if you playback the song with your atari you should be able to predelay the percussion tracks with a fixed amount of time and this factor should constandly be there. talking about your noise problem, which kind of desk do you use? kind regards, marc Kaspar Thommen (kaspar@gmx.ch) wrote on 29.09.1999 8:03 Uhr : >No, not at all. The virus is directly connected to a MIDI patchbay which ist directly connected to my good old Atari, as well as my sampler, so there is no difference in the MIDI connection between virus and sampler. But I still hear a very short delay which normally isnt' audible, except when I'm using percussive sounds. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 14:38:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:35:08 +0200 (MEST) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Latency? From: Kaspar Thommen X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001105152@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.186.9.80] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kaspar Thommen Hi, >if you playback the song with your atari you should be able to predelay the percussion tracks with a fixed amount of time and this factor should >constandly be there. No! Surely I can predelay the whole thing, but threre's still a bad timing. Sometimes the drum ist too early, the next time too late...I never had these problems with my sampler (Esi-32). But I still have to check if these problems only occur in multi mode. >talking about your noise problem, which kind of desk do you use? Eh... I don't have any noise problems ?!?! Kaspar -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 15:10:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:09:45 -0400 From: PUÄ Organization: il.cyburban.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Latency? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From PUÄ Kaspar, If bypassing your midi patchbay eliminates the problem, then it's a problem with the patchbay....A lot of patchbays out there today will allow you to adjust delay, and a lot of data thinning(like to cancel aftertouch on synths that you don't need it on) to help the midi flow so it doesn't bottleneck....You might want to check that.....Jim PS...You would have to wire up quite a few midi modules without the use of a patchbay to notice even the smallest amount of latency..that's not the problem... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 15:16:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:23:54 +0200 From: Mirko Pilger Organization: none X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com, modular-list@wizoo.com Subject: first songs uploaded to mp3c Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mirko Pilger hi, maybe anybody who is enjoying minimal composed ebm and industrial music is interested in listening to my first songs at mp3.com. the url is: http://www.mp3.com/cymoteccyclone i am using the following synths: yamaha an1x clavia micro modular access virus elka ek-22 any comments are welcome- please email me privately by(t)e, mirko ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 17:16:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:15:23 +0200 (MEST) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Re: Latency? From: Kaspar Thommen X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001105152@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.186.39.234] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kaspar Thommen Hi, >The Virus definetely has a constant timing, totally independent of the mode, >the current number of voices sounding, and the character of the sounds. If you hear the timing moving back and forth, this is not the Virus. Again, >what is the reference that you compare it with. Do you still notice it when >you hear the Virus solo? Are you sure that it's not the reference that has >a varying timing? >Sorry to say that, but most midi interfaces have a horrible timing. As I already said, I compare with my sampler which plays the sampled bass drum from the virus. I will check all your suggestions, but I remember trying around with the negative delay on the virus-track on the Atari and it didn't get into perfect timing. The sampler did it much better. Threre is no MIDI-Interface (Atari ;-)) and the OUT of the Atari goes to a Roland A-880 patchbay which distributes the MIDI-Signal to the Virus and the sampler with the same priorities. Unfortunately, my studio isn't here, so you have to wait for my answer until the weekend. Bye, Kaspar -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 17:25:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Latency? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:26:03 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" Never had any problems with latency on the Virus... (not with the Atari or pc with the simple Portman pc/p midi interface) Maybe it's the other machine thats not really on time? My Polysix with Kenton midi interface does have a latency (quite a big one) but I 'repair' that on the computer...no problem. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 29 22:34:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: Re: Re: Latency? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 99 22:31:54 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" hi kaspar, sorry fore mixing up the noise problem ;-) as a keyboarder i must admit that i'm used to a certain kind of bad timing. this mainly stems from using midi equipment all the time. once i had a bass man in my studio and he was able to "feel" the latency of my 02Rs : 2ms. therefore i'm out when it comes to the ultimate timing. on the other hand i bought a sample cell, because i felt that my emu samplers do mix up the timing in a way. i still believe that your problems are based on other things like the virus although i couldn't proof this. i'll check this out, soon. >Threre is no MIDI-Interface (Atari ;-)) and the OUT of the Atari goes to a Roland A-880 patchbay which distributes the MIDI-Signal to the Virus and the sampler with the same priorities. like midi interfaces, patchbays are based on serial data streams. so, if a divice which is handled before the port of your virus is handled are receiving much data, the timing will be affected. cheers, marc Kaspar Thommen (kaspar@gmx.ch) wrote on 29.09.1999 14:35 Uhr : >No! Surely I can predelay the whole thing, but threre's still a bad timing. Sometimes the drum ist too early, the next time too late...I never had >these problems with my sampler (Esi-32). But I still have to check if these problems only occur in multi mode. > > >>talking about your noise problem, which kind of desk do you use? > >Eh... I don't have any noise problems ?!?! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 30 12:27:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:58:23 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >'Your noise problem could be coming from another unit (if you have other equipment, that is) ... I had a really old Yamah synth module that put a low frequency hum on everything plugged into the same power line... might want to check what else you have plugged in, could even be you have some kind of grounding problem somewhere in your rig, but I don't know too much about that stuff... Well, I've actually connected my virus to a totally different power-group yesterday. The only connection to the rest of my gear was the mains out. Perhaps it might be a good idea to try the adaptor of a friends' virus. bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 30 01:19:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:19:11 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: OT : Movin' Forward Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen Hi there again people, i have been busy workin' on some new stuff with my band, Movin' Forward. expect a new website up at http://www.culthero.com/movingforward/ soon... and new songs available @ http://www.mp3.com/movingforward/ support us and download everyday if you really like us... (and for the real fans, buy our cd online @ mp3.com, it's sublime and only $5.99 ) greetings, and thanks for the time. John Machielsen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**