X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 1 15:45:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:36:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: New webpage Rob Papen * From: "Rob Papen" Hi, My webpage has moved and is updated. New is a page on which you can read the reactions of musicians to my sounds www.multiweb.nl\~robpapen\reactions.htm With best regards, Rob Papen ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.multiweb.nl\~robpapen E-mail address: robpapen@multiweb.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 3 09:51:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:50:08 +0200 Subject: (no subject) * From: Carsten Fesser subscribe ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 3 22:53:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:51:54 -0700 Subject: OS1.54? * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Hiya Access-list (bit quiet these days aren't we?), Anyone know if OS1.54 is around the corner? Things have been quiet, so I thought I'd ask for a status update... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 3 23:45:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 23:48:46 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Hiya Access-list (bit quiet these days aren't we?), > >Anyone know if OS1.54 is around the corner? Things have been quiet, so I thought I'd ask for a status update... > Yeah - its already on my machine since 8 weeks or so...... RAy ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 3 23:51:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:43:49 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: "asaert tim" Check Canine's page or the official TSI-Site -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: donderdag 3 september 1998 14:17 Onderwerp: OS1.54? >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Hiya Access-list (bit quiet these days aren't we?), > >Anyone know if OS1.54 is around the corner? Things have been quiet, so I thought I'd ask for a status update... > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry >jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com >| la, calif. >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 08:54:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 08:54:47 +0200 Subject: single program * From: molter hi. if i'm going to modify parameters of a single program in multi single mode i will also change it for its use in a different multi, if this contains the same single too, right? is there any possibility to see if the single that i'm going to change is used within another multi program? thanks chris ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 09:49:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:41:40 +0200 Subject: some questions * From: !**NIC**! Hi listers and lucky Viruses! I'm thinking of getting me a Virus, and there are some things I wanna know: Is it possible to store sounds via sysex or bank dumps in my song? And are there any bugs or so in the OS? Or difficulties? Problems with working? Thanx and I hope I don't bore you! ***NIC*** ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 22:10:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:51:28 +0200 X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de Subject: Re: some questions * From: Groove303@t-online.de (J.+N. Wegerhoff) >* From: !**NIC**! > >Hi listers and lucky Viruses! > >I'm thinking of getting me a Virus, and there are some things I wanna know: Is it possible to store sounds via sysex or bank dumps in my song? And are there any bugs or so in the OS? Or difficulties? Problems with working? > >Thanx and I hope I don't bore you! >***NIC*** >********** ********** >From Jens Wegerhoff or ********** Of course you can dump sounds via sysex.You can dump special Sounds,Multipatches or complete Soundbanks.There are no bugs in kind of a big "Problemmaker". What can I say about Problems or difficulties?.In fact , you can have problems with Virus in the beginning of use, but later you normally don´t have any trouble with the work.If I had the choice,I would buy the Virus again. In fact it´s the best Synth you can buy for this price. Greetings to CK at Access ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 20:06:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:31:55 +0200 Subject: Re: single program * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:54 AM +0200 on 04.09.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >if i'm going to modify parameters of a single program in multi single mode i will also change it for its use in a different multi, if this contains the same single too, right? this is correct. The Multi only points to the bank and program number and does not contain the actual single program. >is there any possibility to see if the single that i'm going to change is used within another multi program? not inside the virus. You could make a list though...;) or alternatively you could record every single program's sysex into the beginning of the song you are using it for. then, when you go back to that song, it doesn't matter which other songs you changed the files for since they will be right there. Saved with the song. If you have a librarian software (such as SoundDiver by Emagic, or Galaxy by (?)) you could also make seperate libraries for all of your songs, with these programs you can even save all of your patches (regardless which synth or fx unit produces them) into one single library file. With the Virus I have found it easier to just store the file in a Logic song file. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 20:06:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:35:18 +0200 Subject: Re: some questions * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:41 AM +0200 on 04.09.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: !**NIC**! > >Hi listers and lucky Viruses! > Hello Nicola >I'm thinking of getting me a Virus, and there are some things I wanna know: Is it possible to store sounds via sysex or bank dumps in my song? Yes, this is certainly possible, I just wrote another mail about this subject which I am sure you received as well. >And are >there any bugs or so in the OS? Version 1.54 is pretty much bug free, although I seem to remember some people were having problems. They will surely speak up. >Or difficulties? Problems with working? There is no compare mode for single programs at this time. This is probably the most annoying thing there is. (which is to say that to me the virus is a pretty perfect machine at this time.) Hopefully others will add their experiences. And I promise I will compile these things into a FAQ for System software 1.54....;) > >Thanx and I hope I don't bore you! of course not. You are planning to use a virus. That#s exciting. I could never be bored about that...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 22:38:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 21:39:06 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: single program * From: Guenther Albrecht hi, with Galaxy & my librarian you can store a multi with all singles out of the edit buffer into an arrangement library, or - using OMS - into the sequencer who will send it back at the start of a song. if you know the sysEx, you can do this from your favorite sequencer as well ( i can send you the sysEx, but it is documented in the manual). regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 5 04:49:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 98 03:01:45 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Dumping (was: single program) * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >hi, > >with Galaxy & my librarian you can store a multi with all singles out of the edit buffer into an arrangement library, or - using OMS - into the sequencer who will send it back at the start of a song. if you know the sysEx, you can do this from your favorite sequencer as well ( i can send you the sysEx, but it is documented in the manual). Do you have the sysex commands? Or is it just by Galaxy? Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 5 04:49:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 98 03:01:49 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: some questions * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Hi listers and lucky Viruses! > >I'm thinking of getting me a Virus, and there are some things I wanna know: Is it possible to store sounds via sysex or bank dumps in my song? And are there any bugs or so in the OS? Or difficulties? Problems with working? Simple answer: not really!!! The *big bugs* have been terminated by Access and dumping is no problem AND thesound is still BEST :-))))) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 22:46:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:38:58 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: single program * From: "asaert tim" I dunno , i don't think so , but my Virus is still in the 'repair bay' at my music store ...sniff :( -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 4 september 1998 0:18 Onderwerp: single program >* From: molter > >hi. >if i'm going to modify parameters of a single program in multi single mode i will also change it for its use in a different multi, if this contains the same single too, right? >is there any possibility to see if the single that i'm going to change is used within another multi program? >thanks chris > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 4 22:47:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:40:01 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: some questions * From: "asaert tim" Yes it is possible ,theoretically that is , it didn't work for me though , maybe cuz mine iz broken ?? -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 4 september 1998 1:05 Onderwerp: some questions >* From: !**NIC**! > >Hi listers and lucky Viruses! > >I'm thinking of getting me a Virus, and there are some things I wanna know: Is it possible to store sounds via sysex or bank dumps in my song? And are there any bugs or so in the OS? Or difficulties? Problems with working? > >Thanx and I hope I don't bore you! >***NIC*** >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 5 14:14:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:53:45 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" I've tried to dowload the OS 1.54 from the Access site but when I play it, it bugs at mesure 9 or 10... I'm working on PC with Cubase audio XT 3.01 and a MTP AV...Anyone? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 5 15:13:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 09:22:09 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net try a slower tempo and make sure your PC is not sending out Midi clock to the virus weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" > >I've tried to dowload the OS 1.54 from the Access site but when I play it, it bugs at mesure 9 or 10... >I'm working on PC with Cubase audio XT 3.01 and a MTP AV...Anyone? > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 5 15:05:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sam, 5 Sep 98 15:09:55 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: some questions * From: Marc Schlaile >I'm thinking of getting me a Virus, and there are some things I wanna know: Is it possible to store sounds via sysex or bank dumps in my song? sure. it's an active dump by the way, no request or handshake protocol needed. >And are >there any bugs or so in the OS? Or difficulties? Problems with working? 1.54 works flawless at my place. you'll enjoy it regards, marc "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?" babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 5 21:56:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:59:17 -0800 Subject: virus dimensions for flight case * From: Bobby Tahouri Does anyone have the exact dimensions of the virus and the power supply for fitting in a flight case? Do any of you own a flight case specifically made for the virus? Thanks, Bobby ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 00:28:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 18:37:08 -0400 Organization: weld electronica CC: btahouri@earthlink.net Subject: Re: virus dimensions for flight case * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net virus measures 18 3/8 in L 7 1/8 W 3 H (with rubber feet) cheers weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 14:20:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:11:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" Hi, I've already tried 60bpm and I'm not sending Midiclock, but the problem seams to come from the midifile itself, because each time I reach block 87 the computer crash...I've already tried to re-download the file from the internet, but it still doesn't work...HELP!! >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >try a slower tempo >and make sure your PC is not sending out Midi clock to the virus weld > >access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >> >>* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >> >>I've tried to dowload the OS 1.54 from the Access site but when I play it, >>it bugs at mesure 9 or 10... >>I'm working on PC with Cubase audio XT 3.01 and a MTP AV...Anyone? >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 14:20:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 13:10:48 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Driver ? * From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" Hi, Does anybody know if there is a driver for the Virus around ? Greetings ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 18:48:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:43:10 -0500 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: CrAzYjOn did you use netscape....?The o/s updates can become corrupted if you netscape.. just a thought CrazyJon RTFM access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" > >Hi, >I've already tried 60bpm and I'm not sending Midiclock, but the problem seams to come from the midifile itself, because each time I reach block 87 the computer crash...I've already tried to re-download the file from the internet, but it still doesn't work...HELP!! > >>* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net >> >>try a slower tempo >>and make sure your PC is not sending out Midi clock to the virus weld >> >>access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>> >>>* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >>> >>>I've tried to dowload the OS 1.54 from the Access site but when I play >it, >>>it bugs at mesure 9 or 10... >>>I'm working on PC with Cubase audio XT 3.01 and a MTP AV...Anyone? >>> >>>********** >********** >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 18:53:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: bob frye you may have the Virus set to pass thru MIDI data incoming at the IN jack. this will cause the problem you've described. Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 18:57:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: bob frye I've used Netscape for every single one of my system d/l's from access, never had a problem.. don't think it's quite that generic. Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 21:00:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 98 21:19:45 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Driver ? * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" > >Hi, >Does anybody know if there is a driver for the Virus around ? What do you mean with driver??? Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 6 21:00:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 98 21:19:52 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Raymund Beyer Hi, maybe your midi-interface or the driver for the interface do not work properly with sysex. I would take a try on an other machine, with an other interface. The sysex transfer needs a very stable midi connection. Also I would recommend to use a totally empty song with no personal setting exepted the midi channel for transmission. Ray >* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" > >Hi, >I've already tried 60bpm and I'm not sending Midiclock, but the problem seams to come from the midifile itself, because each time I reach block 87 the computer crash...I've already tried to re-download the file from the internet, but it still doesn't work...HELP!! > > > >>* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net >> >>try a slower tempo >>and make sure your PC is not sending out Midi clock to the virus weld >> >>access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>> >>>* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >>> >>>I've tried to dowload the OS 1.54 from the Access site but when I play >it, >>>it bugs at mesure 9 or 10... >>>I'm working on PC with Cubase audio XT 3.01 and a MTP AV...Anyone? >>> >>>********** >********** >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 7 15:30:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 00:27:45 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Driver ? * From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" I'm looking for a studio module driver working with Cubase... Dimitri >>Hi, >>Does anybody know if there is a driver for the Virus around ? > >What do you mean with driver??? > >Ray > >----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de > >http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 >ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >----------------------------------------------------------- > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 7 09:56:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:56:42 +0200 Organization: COMPAREX Sistemas Inform·ticos Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Roman Vargas OK. I had the same problem with my Turtle Beach's Tahiti MIDI Interface. Just change your MIDI Interface (I used EES External MIDI Interface). access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Raymund Beyer > >Hi, > >maybe your midi-interface or the driver for the interface do not work properly with sysex. I would take a try on an other machine, with an other interface. The sysex transfer needs a very stable midi connection. Also I would recommend to use a totally empty song with no personal setting exepted the midi channel for transmission. > >Ray > >>* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >> >>Hi, >>I've already tried 60bpm and I'm not sending Midiclock, but the problem seams to come from the midifile itself, because each time I reach block 87 the computer crash...I've already tried to re-download the file from the internet, but it still doesn't work...HELP!! >> >> >> >>>* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net >>> >>>try a slower tempo >>>and make sure your PC is not sending out Midi clock to the virus weld >>> >>>access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>>> >>>>* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >>>> >>>>I've tried to dowload the OS 1.54 from the Access site but when I play >>it, >>>>it bugs at mesure 9 or 10... >>>>I'm working on PC with Cubase audio XT 3.01 and a MTP AV...Anyone? >>>> >>>>********** >>********** >>>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >>is >>>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> >> >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> > >----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de > >http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 >ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >----------------------------------------------------------- > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 7 12:42:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:39:31 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches * From: "Rob Papen" Hi Elhardt and Onno (mchuizer@eurnet.nl), It took some while for me to respond to your mails (date 5-5-98) . Please visit my homepage on which you can read how much fun people have with using my sounds. www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions I am a professional sound-designer, so I charge for sounds. Is that so bad, if you get value for money? If you let your house paint, do not pay them also? My mainpage; www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen With best regards, Rob Papen -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: donderdag 7 mei 1998 8:58 Onderwerp: Re: patches |* From: Elhardt | |<< The only thing i got was some card saying i could buy sounds from Rob |Papen.Who is Rob..? Why would someone make sounds on a fully controllable |machine like the virus anyway.>> | |That is something I have always thought myself. The reason for buying a |synthesizer is to synthesize sounds. That is the whole point of a |synthesizer. But there is always someone out there who wants to profit for |every little thing. Maybe we should all start withholding any helpful tips or |patches and charge for them. | |-Elhardt |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 7 17:33:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:55:05 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" May anybody E-mail me the OS1.54 to make sure It's not coming from the downloading... Thanks >* From: Roman Vargas > >OK. I had the same problem with my Turtle Beach's Tahiti MIDI Interface. Just >change your MIDI Interface (I used EES External MIDI Interface). > >access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >>* From: Raymund Beyer >> >>Hi, >> >>maybe your midi-interface or the driver for the interface do not work properly with sysex. I would take a try on an other machine, with an other interface. The sysex transfer needs a very stable midi connection. Also I would recommend to use a totally empty song with no personal setting exepted the midi channel for transmission. >> >>Ray >> >>>* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >>> >>>Hi, >>>I've already tried 60bpm and I'm not sending Midiclock, but the problem seams to come from the midifile itself, because each time I reach block 87 >>>the computer crash...I've already tried to re-download the file from the internet, but it still doesn't work...HELP!! >>> >>> >>> >>>>* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net >>>> >>>>try a slower tempo >>>>and make sure your PC is not sending out Midi clock to the virus weld >>>> >>>>access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>* From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >>>>> >>>>>I've tried to dowload the OS 1.54 from the Access site but when I play >>>it, >>>>>it bugs at mesure 9 or 10... >>>>>I'm working on PC with Cubase audio XT 3.01 and a MTP AV...Anyone? >>>>> >>>>>********** >>>********** >>>>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>>>>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >>>is >>>>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>********** ********** >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >>> >>> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de >> >>http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 >>ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >>Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >>----------------------------------------------------------- >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 7 21:40:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 12:40:36 -0700 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Ronald Pieket >* From: CrAzYjOn >did you use netscape....?The o/s updates can become corrupted if you netscape.. This is a false, slanderous rumor started by TSi GmbH. You canNOT end up with a corrupt system update file without knowing it, with Netscape or any other browser. There are TWO checksum verification systems. The first is in the data transfer protocol itself, and the second is in the ZIP archive format. If the download does not generate any error messages, and the unzip utility does not complain either, you can be assured that the data is intact. TSi GmbH have a tendency to blame every piece of software or hardware under the sun, before looking at their own product. So far, they have blamed Netscape, Cakewalk, Media Player, the QY700, and all hardware midi data filers. - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 00:07:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 15:03:55 -0700 Cc: music-bar@teklab.com, cs1x-list@teklab.com, fatman-l@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Subject: New (old) list: DSP Factory * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Information on how to join and participate in the TekLab mailing list dedicated to discussion of the Yamaha DSP/Factory digital audio recording system is now available here: http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/ Sorry for the delay in getting this fixed -- the list itself has in fact been running for months, it's just that very few people knew about it. Oops! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 08:34:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 02:32:47 EDT Subject: Re: patches * From: Elhardt@aol.com <> First of all, I can't be held responsible for anything I wrote that long ago, as I was young and foolish back then. However I still stand by my/others position. The problem is not as much on your part as it is on those who will not take the time to learn how to use their instruments. In the 80s, synthesizer manufactures said that about 90% of the synths that came back for repair still had the factory presets in them. That was considered unacceptable back then. If manufacturers see that people aren't programming the things, they take away knobs and buttons and synths degenerate into thin black slabs with an LCD display and a keypad. For a person to go out and spend a significant amount of money on a synth covered with knobs and then just use it like a preset electronic organ seems a waste. And I don't want to get the same old responses like "they give me a starting point for my own sounds" or "I don't have time to program sounds myself" or "they help me learn how to program sounds". The Virus ships with sounds that can be used for those purposes, and we are talking a simple analog style synth here, not some digital synth with four layered voices, hundreds of sampled waves, effects galore and takes hours to program one patch. Synthesizer voices also need to be programmed knowing what effects they are going to be running through and how they are going to be played. Something only the owner or the synth knows. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 12:10:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 98 12:28:57 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: patches * From: Raymund Beyer Hi Elhardt, maybe a useless discussion, but IMO Rob is doing well! Rob wrote ><> Elhardt wrote: >First of all, I can't be held responsible for anything I wrote that long ago, as I was young and foolish back then. However I still stand by my/others position. The problem is not as much on your part as it is on those who will not take the time to learn how to use their instruments. Thats not the point. If you are doing studio jobs/productions professional you dont allways have the time to do the sound designing. This doesnt mean I never do - but oftem there are deadlines and so its great for me if I have a few sets of FRESH sounds I can listen to - and if I like one screw a little bit around on it and bingo. In this situation it saves time and my nerves if somebody did a good sound-designing job for me - especially if its a stress situation (maybe the client and the artist are in the studio too - they want to hear QUICK results and no boring fiddling around on knobs the hole day). The Virus itsself IS a great tool to work with: easy and good sounding. Do you also beak your bread in the morning? >In the 80s, >synthesizer manufactures said that about 90% of the synths that came back for repair still had the factory presets in them. OK maybe its the same today but I dont think so. Think of some typical 80s synths and how good were they programmable: DX 7: very hard D 50: was ok but the presets were good Oberheims: also not easy to work with. I needed quite a time to have everything on my mind Prophets (-5, Pro one): great :-) I think a little bit userfriendlyness came back again with the ninties. Like the JD 800 or the Nord Lead. But in the 90s there is a new problem coming up: parameters - and much more parameters and internal FX boards. But I think the trend is going in the direction the Virus, the XT and others also go: To have a few parameters on the panel with wich you can work and whwere people who didnt ever use a synth can qiuckly learn the first steps because they see and feel what happenes if the cutoff knob is turned. >That was considered >unacceptable back then. If manufacturers see that people aren't programming the things, they take away knobs and buttons and synths degenerate into thin black slabs with an LCD display and a keypad. For a person to go out and spend a significant amount of money on a synth covered with knobs and then just use it like a preset electronic organ seems a waste. Sure not: I pay for the sound. The knobs give me quick access. >And I don't >want to >get the same old responses like "they give me a starting point for my own sounds" or "I don't have time to program sounds myself" or "they help me learn >how to program sounds". But its a matter of fact. >The Virus ships with sounds that can be used for those purposes, and we are talking a simple analog style synth here, not some digital synth with four layered voices, hundreds of sampled waves, effects galore and takes hours to program one patch. For me useless hours. I hate these 1080/2080. Most you can do better with a sampler/analog-synth and a good FX. >Synthesizer voices also need to >be programmed knowing what effects they are going to be running through and how they are going to be played. Something only the owner or the synth knows. But sometimes others have a different idea for the same sound? Is this forbidden? Thanks Rob for doing such work for us. I dont think 0,5 DM per sound is too much for a good sound. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 15:00:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:56:35 +0200 Subject: Question * From: !**NIC**! Hi infected crowd! My dealer told me that half the Viruses sold go back to the manufaturer, but I couln't imagine why and he said nothing to this question... (I think he is nuts!) or is there any truth in this? Thanx NIC ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 15:55:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:55:58 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Dimitri Sijperda At 12:40 7-9-98 -0700, you wrote: * From: Ronald Pieket >>did you use netscape....?The o/s updates can become corrupted if you netscape.. >This is a false, slanderous rumor started by TSi GmbH. > >TSi GmbH have a tendency to blame every piece of software or hardware under the sun, before looking at their own product. So far, they have blamed Netscape, Cakewalk, Media Player, the QY700, and all hardware midi data filers. I tend to agree with you . E.g. at the qy-700 list I hear no one blaming any other product than qy itself. But then again, maybe that's because Yamaha doesn't write to that newsgroup as much as Access does. :p But I am also sure that a lot of things going wrong on PC/MIDI is because of the PC not being the most stable MIDI sequencer according to timing. I've heard my performances under Cubase VST, step recorded, played back with a timing like my little brother playing the piano... and if this PC sends MIDI sysex like my brother would i can imagine some things go terribly wrong. I agree with you that netscape can't have anything to do with this. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 16:04:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:05:19 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: Question * From: Dimitri Sijperda At 14:56 8-9-98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: !**NIC**! > >Hi infected crowd! > >My dealer told me that half the Viruses sold go back to the manufaturer, but I couln't imagine why and he said nothing to this question... (I think he is nuts!) or is there any truth in this? Well, maybe a lot of software problems go right back to the manufacturer, but then by email. On this list actually. I have only one virus, and it's not going back to the manufacturer. Noway! It's working very good. Maybe he has a contract with Nordlead? :) Maybe he doens't know about the MIDI sysex files containing new software versions? The former versions tended to crash, but I haven't had a crash with v1.54 until now. I think he just doens'nt like the virus, and finds it very important that others do not either. I have some debit now and i pay $200 because I hadn't enough money, but it's veery well worth it. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 16:31:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:36:50 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Question * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk I had to wait several months between ordering and receiving my Virus. During that time I started to get a bit worried reading on this list about all the bug reports and problems people were having. I have to say that I have had no problems whatsoever with my machine and have been able to upgrade the os to 1.54 from a download (though I did take the precaution of using Internet Explorer rather than Netscape Navigator on the advice of the Access homepage.) I use Logic on a Mac PPC and an Opcode Studio 64 interface. My only problem is not having enough time to spend making music with this gorgeous little synth. Days should be 48 hours long. Can we have that in the next os upgrade please Access? Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 17:51:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:49:04 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches * From: "Rob Papen" Hi Elhardt, I agree that it is very pitty that a lot of people do not work 100% with a synthesizers and use it only as a preset machine. The knops are there for being used ofcourse ! In the old days the synthesizer player had to know much more about their machine then today. Groups and artist like Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Vangelis ect had to program their synthesizers. (In the beginning there was even no memory to store a good sound). In these days, more people use synthesizers. Many of them are normal keyboard players and use synthesizers besides their piano to arrange ect. I think it is great when a keyboard player can work also with a synthesizer without the presets (and makes his own sounds). He will have his own sound on stage and CD. What you see wrong (according to me) is this: I might happen that another musicians our sound-designers make a sound, you never will make because we all are different people !! I started with the KORG MS-20 in 1980 (I was 15 years old). On that nice synth you did need to know how to make a sound otherwise... Besides programming a lot I also use presets, while making music. Why ? Because a good sound is a good sound. Sometimes I start with a preset and change it. And for the people who love to use presets (our adjust them) I love to make good soundsets. Notice that a good sound can inspire you. In total I agree that it is pitty to buy a Virus and use only presets. But I do think that most people who did buy the Virus use the knops a lot (for instance to change a preset to be fit in a song). I see it like this. A good sound is the same as hearing a good song. For me it is also great to know that people enjoy my sounds! In this way I share the talent God did gave me, making music and sounds. Regards and keep on turning these knops, Rob Papen -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: dinsdag 8 september 1998 14:01 Onderwerp: Re: patches |* From: Elhardt@aol.com | |<> | |First of all, I can't be held responsible for anything I wrote that long ago, |as I was young and foolish back then. However I still stand by my/others |position. The problem is not as much on your part as it is on those who will |not take the time to learn how to use their instruments. In the 80s, |synthesizer manufactures said that about 90% of the synths that came back for |repair still had the factory presets in them. That was considered |unacceptable back then. If manufacturers see that people aren't programming |the things, they take away knobs and buttons and synths degenerate into thin |black slabs with an LCD display and a keypad. For a person to go out and |spend a significant amount of money on a synth covered with knobs and then |just use it like a preset electronic organ seems a waste. And I don't want to |get the same old responses like "they give me a starting point for my own |sounds" or "I don't have time to program sounds myself" or "they help me learn |how to program sounds". The Virus ships with sounds that can be used for |those purposes, and we are talking a simple analog style synth here, not some |digital synth with four layered voices, hundreds of sampled waves, effects |galore and takes hours to program one patch. Synthesizer voices also need to |be programmed knowing what effects they are going to be running through and |how they are going to be played. Something only the owner or the synth knows. | |-Elhardt |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 17:59:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 08:59:29 -0700 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Ronald Pieket >* From: Dimitri Sijperda I tend to agree with you . E.g. at the qy-700 list I hear no one blaming any other product than qy itself. But then again, maybe that's because Yamaha doesn't write to that newsgroup as much as Access does. :p I want to make a very important distinction here. My harsh criticism is directed towards TSi GmbH, and NOT to Access. Access developed the hardware and software. Access contribute to the list, they fix problems, add features, and improve the way the Virus works. I wish there were more synth developers in the industry like Access. TSi GmbH is the distributor/marketer. They are not very technical, and like to play the "throw the blame at something else and see if it sticks" game. This opinion is based on the text on their home page, and private emails. - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 18:29:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:29:32 +0200 Encoding: 10 TEXT, 49 UUENCODE Subject: AW: Question * From: Rudolf Lindner >>(though I did take the precaution of using Internet Explorer rather than Netscape Navigator on >>the advice of the Access homepage.) People, I don't want to step into the browser war, but I always use netscape and I had never (repeat: NEVER) any problems with courrrrrrupted filez. (Made 3 OS updates this way - btw. The last update was some months ago. Hello Access: it's time for another....) Rudolf Lindner ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:WINMAIL.DAT 3 (????/----) (00009985)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 20:33:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:26:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Question * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >My dealer told me that half the Viruses sold go back to the manufaturer, but I couln't imagine why and he said nothing to this question... (I think he is nuts!) or is there any truth in this? He's probably a clueless dealer and doesn't realize that the Access Virus can be easily upgraded by simply playing a SYSEX file at it, just like MIDI. There were a few problems with the earlier versions of the Operating System for the Virus that might have prompted people to send it back due to unreliability/instability, but these have since long been fixed. Access release bugfixes and enhancements to the Virus' OS quite frequently, and the current version is *very* stable and reliable in my experience. You might want to ask your dealer if he knows anything about how to do Virus OS upgrades. If his response is intangible or not entirely honest, there's your answer... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 20:33:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:26:59 -0700 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >I tend to agree with you . E.g. at the qy-700 list I hear no one blaming any other product than qy itself. But then again, maybe that's because Yamaha doesn't write to that newsgroup as much as Access does. :p > FWIW, I've never had problems with my QY700... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 20:33:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:28:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Question * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > I had to wait several months between ordering and receiving my Virus. During that time I started to get a bit worried reading on this list about all the bug reports and problems people were having. Just like to point out that Access' presence on this list resulted in the following situation: >I have to say >that I have had no problems whatsoever with my machine and have been able to upgrade the os to 1.54 from a download (though I did take the precaution of using Internet Explorer rather than Netscape Navigator on the advice of the Access homepage.) The fact that Access listen to it's user community and actively support us with new OS upgrades is an *excellent* reason to invest in an Access Virus if you're interested in it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 04:50:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-ROUTED: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:52:28 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Dihm Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:01:33 +0000 Organization: White Cloud Productions Subject: Re: patches As I said before presets should be programmed with both the effects and musical passages in mind.  Something only the composer/musician can know. When I used to buy synth records, I would anxiously run home, pop them on my turntable and want to experience a rainbow of sounds I have never heard before.  That just doesn't happen much anymore. -Elhardt dude, this is getting old. You have some good points, but so do others. Let's just leave it as that. Respect each other, or at least treat one as you would like to be treated. If people want to pay for patches, it's their choice. What they do with the sounds after that is there choice. And If I will buy their CD, that is my choice. I don't always look for new sounds in a tune, rather how it connects, the freshness of the idea, and some intangables. Some of my guitar Gods have the same axe and amp. yet they continue to amaze me with their note selection, or feel peace, dihmX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 23:07:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:06:18 EDT Subject: Re: patches * From: Elhardt@aol.com << I think it is great when a keyboard player can work also with a synthesizer without the presets (and makes his own sounds). He will have his own sound on stage and CD. What you see wrong (according to me) is this: It might happen that other musicians our sound-designers make a sound, you never will make because we all are different people !! >> Everybody is supposed to have his own sound. That's what makes a person's style sound different than others. If everybody uses the same sounds, that just leads to additional mediocrity in music. You would be amazed at how many times I have heard the Roland D-50 patch number 81 on TV shows and movies. It stands out like a sore thumb. Sure a person can tweek your sounds to save time when in the studio, but a person can also tweek his own sounds that he created earlier, to save time. It is these people who just gush over synthesizer patches as if they were the greatest things, when by themselves they are not very interesting. It's the case where the whole piece of music is greater than the sum of its parts. <> I am not sure what this means exactly. The point I was trying to make was in the days when there were only analog synths covered with knobs, that about 90% of their users didn't go beyond the factory presets. This was before the DX7, D50 etc. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 23:25:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:24:36 -0700 Subject: Re: patches * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Everybody is supposed to have his own sound. Where's that written? I don't think there's anything really that's 'supposed' to happen in music writing. There are general guidelines, yeah, and general rules to be followed/broken. >That's what makes a person's >style sound different than others. If everybody uses the same sounds, that just leads to additional mediocrity in music. Worked for Rachmaninoff/Tchaikovsky/Mozart/Bach et al. Man, if I hear another boring piano concerto or string section playing the same old sound, I think I'll yawn myself to death... >You would be amazed at how many >times I have heard the Roland D-50 patch number 81 on TV shows and movies. It >stands out like a sore thumb. To you, it does. But to the average music listener, it probably sounded familiar. Which has its positive aspects as well as its negative ones. >It is these people who just gush over >synthesizer patches as if they were the greatest things, when by themselves they are not very interesting. It's the case where the whole piece of music is greater than the sum of its parts. > Exactly. Whether I use XG or not, it's the whole piece that matters. >I am not sure what this means exactly. The point I was trying to make was in the days when there were only analog synths covered with knobs, that about 90% >of their users didn't go beyond the factory presets. This was before the DX7, >D50 etc. > I have a personal theory that the reason that analog synthesizers became more and more popular in modern music in the late 80's/early 90's was because people had finally worked out how to use the damned things. It took them that long. Either way you look at it, the issue of presets or no-presets is not a black and white situation. If the sound fits where you want it to fit, and it adds to the piece of music you're writing, then use it. I know a lot of musicians that make very, very interesting sounds, but nobody listens to their music because it's too weird. Producing successful music that sells and/or is listened to widely is really a matter of finding a balance between a) what people are willing to experience, and b) what you're willing to produce as a musician. This applies to everything from lyrical content to what instruments are used to how you style your hair for the album cover. So this whole preset argument really has no place on the list. It's not a productive thread necessarily. Personally I'd prefer to hear *how* Rob created some of the sounds he did, or even how some of the contributors to the Access Virus presets put their patches together -- I know there are a few members of this list that worked on the Virus presets. Since those sounds are open and available anyway, how about someone posting a small tutorial or a guide to how the sound was made and why the parameters were adjusted they were for a particular sound? That way, those members on the access-list that only ever use presets may actually learn something from the pro's and start to make their own sounds using the knowledge gained, and we can have lots of other interesting conversations and shared knowledge on this list as a result of it. One last thing - Rob, I'm sure you'd sell more of your hard labor if you put up samples of your sounds, and maybe the odd tutorial or two on how the sound got from point A to point B as you applied your mental process as a synthesist to achieve the desired results. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 8 23:45:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 23:45:51 +0200 Organization: Unknown Organization Subject: a virus in paris * From: Bertrand Blais hello from paris !! i bought the crazy machine one month ago. as a jungle music programmer i'm in love with the machine. This is the first time i don't give up a programming until i reach the perfect sound i'm looking for. the virus is so easy to program and the sound is so "analogicly" surprising. I'm using the virus with logic audio on a PC a winman 4x4s. No problems with Sysex - exept once, i did a midi feedback loop.(sorry !) I downloaded os with netscape and it worked. The external clock on LFO and Arp works good with quantized notes and if you start playing at the beggining of a bar - let's get logical ;) The access list is a good thing, and it's funny good to see that users complain about a lot of other things than the virus itself. thank you access for the support. May the sound be with you -- and your virus :) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 04:14:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:12:18 EDT Subject: Re: patches * From: Elhardt@aol.com << Everybody is supposed to have his own sound. Where's that written? I don't think there's anything really that's 'supposed' to happen in music writing. >> I tell you, people on this board just ware me out. Of course you don't have to have you own sound or style if you don't want to, but then this only confirms another point that was discussed on the message board a while back. That was the lack originality in synth music over the last decade or more. I don't hear synthesizers pushed to their sonic capabilities as was done in earlier synth music. Some of this also has to do with the simplicity of the music itself. <> As synthesist Walter/Wendy Carlos would say, those are not simple electronic sounds that fatigue the ear quickly. <> It actually has to do with the attention span of popular culture, and the way it quickly tires of one thing and then moves on to something else. When digital synths came out they were new and exciting and people dumped their analog stuff. Then digital became boring and people went back to analog. It is just a fad now. It will die off too, and people will move onto something else. For instance there is no reason on earth anyone should want a TB-303, TR-909, SH-101 when you can get better stuff for less money. But people want to be trendy and one of the crowd. They want the same sound they hear everywhere else, and that is not what the philosophy behind the synthesizer should be. <> As I said before presets should be programmed with both the effects and musical passages in mind. Something only the composer/musician can know. When I used to buy synth records, I would anxiously run home, pop them on my turntable and want to experience a rainbow of sounds I have never heard before. That just doesn't happen much anymore. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 05:41:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:38:13 -0500 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: CrAzYjOn easy there kids......just passing along info I had previously recived..... Crazyjon Mater of Digital Chicanery access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >At 12:40 7-9-98 -0700, you wrote: * From: Ronald Pieket > >>>did you use netscape....?The o/s updates can become corrupted if you netscape.. >>This is a false, slanderous rumor started by TSi GmbH. >> >>TSi GmbH have a tendency to blame every piece of software or hardware under the sun, before looking at their own product. So far, they have blamed Netscape, Cakewalk, Media Player, the QY700, and all hardware midi data filers. > >I tend to agree with you . E.g. at the qy-700 list I hear no one blaming any other product than qy itself. But then again, maybe that's because Yamaha doesn't write to that newsgroup as much as Access does. :p > >But I am also sure that a lot of things going wrong on PC/MIDI is because of the PC not being the most stable MIDI sequencer according to timing. I've heard my performances under Cubase VST, step recorded, played back with a timing like my little brother playing the piano... and if this PC sends MIDI sysex like my brother would i can imagine some things go terribly wrong. > >I agree with you that netscape can't have anything to do with this. > >Dimitri. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 10:47:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:53:27 +0100 Organization: Temperature Subject: Re: Unsubscribe * From: Bridget/ Tony Salter ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 11:59:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:56:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: a virus in paris * From: "Rob Papen" |May the sound be with you -- and your virus :) That one we must keep! Ofcourse not for a medical list. |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 12:01:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:58:33 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: woensdag 9 september 1998 0:55 Onderwerp: Re: patches |* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan | |>Everybody is supposed to have his own sound. | |Where's that written? I don't think there's anything really that's |'supposed' to happen in music writing. There are general guidelines, yeah, |and general rules to be followed/broken. | |>That's what makes a person's |>style sound different than others. If everybody uses the same sounds, that |>just leads to additional mediocrity in music. | |Worked for Rachmaninoff/Tchaikovsky/Mozart/Bach et al. Man, if I hear |another boring piano concerto or string section playing the same old sound, |I think I'll yawn myself to death... | |>You would be amazed at how many |>times I have heard the Roland D-50 patch number 81 on TV shows and movies. | It |>stands out like a sore thumb. | |To you, it does. But to the average music listener, it probably sounded |familiar. Which has its positive aspects as well as its negative ones. | The danger of being so long working with synthesizers is that you forget how normal people respond to music and the sound in it. Just look to that song of ENIGMA. People loved it and there is again that often used EMU Shakuhachi |>It is these people who just gush over |>synthesizer patches as if they were the greatest things, when by themselves |>they are not very interesting. It's the case where the whole piece of music |>is greater than the sum of its parts. |> | |Exactly. Whether I use XG or not, it's the whole piece that matters. | |>I am not sure what this means exactly. The point I was trying to make was in |>the days when there were only analog synths covered with knobs, that about |90% |>of their users didn't go beyond the factory presets. This was before the |DX7, |>D50 etc. |> | |I have a personal theory that the reason that analog synthesizers became |more and more popular in modern music in the late 80's/early 90's was |because people had finally worked out how to use the damned things. It |took them that long. | |Either way you look at it, the issue of presets or no-presets is not a |black and white situation. If the sound fits where you want it to fit, and |it adds to the piece of music you're writing, then use it. | |I know a lot of musicians that make very, very interesting sounds, but |nobody listens to their music because it's too weird. | I do make synthesizer music (Dutch group PERU and NOVA). But with that weird music we had two number one hits in some countries in Europe. |Producing successful music that sells and/or is listened to widely is |really a matter of finding a balance between a) what people are willing to |experience, and b) what you're willing to produce as a musician. This |applies to everything from lyrical content to what instruments are used to |how you style your hair for the album cover. | |So this whole preset argument really has no place on the list. It's not a |productive thread necessarily. | |Personally I'd prefer to hear *how* Rob created some of the sounds he did, |or even how some of the contributors to the Access Virus presets put their |patches together -- I know there are a few members of this list that worked |on the Virus presets. | What I personally find pitty is that the other programmers did not programm for instance the modulation wheel. After update 1.51 they did not change the sounds. You can do so much great thing's with using the modulation wheels. |Since those sounds are open and available anyway, how about someone posting |a small tutorial or a guide to how the sound was made and why the |parameters were adjusted they were for a particular sound? | I think that is hard to tell. Sometimes a sounds is there so quikly that it is like writing a song (in my case) |That way, those members on the access-list that only ever use presets may |actually learn something from the pro's and start to make their own sounds |using the knowledge gained, and we can have lots of other interesting |conversations and shared knowledge on this list as a result of it. | I just learned it by reading the manual of the synthesizers and some books. By experiment and by just doing it. I started with a Korg MS-20. You had to know how it works, before you could strart making music. But some things you can not learn, it is just like cooking. I am very bad in cooking altough I know how I have to do it. |One last thing - Rob, I'm sure you'd sell more of your hard labor if you |put up samples of your sounds, and maybe the odd tutorial or two on how the |sound got from point A to point B as you applied your mental process as a |synthesist to achieve the desired results. | I am working now on a CD-ROM for the Emu EOS samplers. Ofcourse I will use some of the sounds I did program for the Access Virus. My mental process is hard to explain because I discoverd that making a sounds is for me the same as writing a song. It is a combination of talent and technical knowhow. A Dutch magazine called INTERFACE did had an interview with me about Sound-Design. Maybe in future other magazines are interested in doing an interview. Then you can read how I work. Regards, Rob Papen | | |j. | |-- |Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry |jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | | la, calif. |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 12:12:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:12:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Dimitri Sijperda At 11:26 8-9-98 -0700, you wrote: >>I tend to agree with you . E.g. at the qy-700 list I hear no one blaming any other product than qy itself. But then again, maybe that's because Yamaha doesn't write to that newsgroup as much as Access does. :p >FWIW, I've never had problems with my QY700... Of course that could be the reason too... :-) Indeed, most things being said in the qy list are about "how do i do this and that". Say... should I buy a qy? The only problem is that I don't have money, but that's all right. I didn't have mony for my virus either. My bank did. I'm pretty annoyed using my unintuitive PC with my very intuitive virus. And I prefer to bring a small harware sequencer to a concert in stead of my whole computer. I'll put this question in the qy-list as well. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 15:09:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 98 15:13:08 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: patches * From: Raymund Beyer Elhardt wrote: .. >They want the same sound they hear >everywhere else, and that is not what the philosophy behind the synthesizer should be. You forgot to say *in my opinion*. I use synthesizers because I HATE the sound of guitars (I allways did, do now and maybe ever will) and not because of any philosophy. And if I get a sound out of if it like XYZ its great for me because I know lots of people would like to hear it. Of course its not the only thing I use it but I think its morally O.K. to do so. > ><and white situation. >If the sound fits where you want it to fit, and it adds to the piece of music you're writing, then use it.>> > >As I said before presets should be programmed with both the effects and musical passages in mind. Something only the composer/musician can know. When I used to buy synth records, I would anxiously run home, pop them on my turntable and want to experience a rainbow of sounds I have never heard before. That just doesn't happen much anymore. O.K. Elhardt: if you make so unique sounds and you think its not worth paying for sounds then please send me same sounds for our list collection! I think it would be very interesting to hear from what your talking of ;-) BTW: Im sorry I didnt upload the sounds I have allready recieved, I hope ill find the time next week. Regards Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 18:31:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:43:56 +0200 X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de Subject: Re: OS1.54?hardwareseq * From: Groove303@t-online.de (J.+N. Wegerhoff) access-list@tl36.teklab.com schrieb: >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >At 11:26 8-9-98 -0700, you wrote: >>>I tend to agree with you . E.g. at the qy-700 list I hear no one blaming any other product than qy itself. But then again, maybe that's because Yamaha doesn't write to that newsgroup as much as Access does. :p >>FWIW, I've never had problems with my QY700... >Of course that could be the reason too... :-) Indeed, most things being said in the qy list are about "how do i do this and that". > >Say... should I buy a qy? The only problem is that I don't have money, but that's all right. I didn't have mony for my virus either. My bank did. I'm pretty annoyed using my unintuitive PC with my very intuitive virus. And I prefer to bring a small harware sequencer to a concert in stead of my whole computer. I'll put this question in the qy-list as well. > >Dimitri. >---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda >ip&url: http://145.99.128.7/dimi (server not always up) mailto:di-mi@dds.nl > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >From Jens Wegerhoff or ead it! Hey Dimitri , if you´re looking for a Hardwareseqencer i recommend you the Roland MC303 Groovebox.This machine is very good for liveacts.I use one in connection with my Virus and other stuff.And you have sounds and a drumcomputer inclusive.Have a try. OK,the MC303 is not as good as a QY700,but much cheaper. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 19:34:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:33:48 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches * From: "Howard Scarr" >For a person to go out and spend a significant amount of money on a synth covered with knobs and then just use it like a preset electronic organ seems a waste... Agree, but I'm sure Access don't mind. As long as *they* don't start reducing the knobbage... >...we are talking a simple analog style synth here, not some digital synth with four layered voices, hundreds of sampled waves, effects galore and takes hours to program one patch And that's why Mr. Papen is probably not going to get disgustingly rich selling his Virus sounds (could make a lot more money programming Roland and Yamaha stuff). Good luck to him! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 22:11:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:11:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: bcfrye@earthlink.net (Unverified) Subject: Re: patches * From: bob frye To all who insist on this rhetoric.... Why don't you all simply agree to disagree...(you all have had your share of valid points made...) AND GET BACK TO MAKING MUSIC AND GREAT SOUNDS! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 20:42:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mit, 9 Sep 98 20:47:04 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: Question * From: Marc Schlaile >My dealer told me that half the Viruses sold go back to the manufaturer, but I couln't imagine why and he said nothing to this question... (I think he is nuts!) or is there any truth in this? in the whole time we just sent one virus back. i don't wanna publish how much we sold but i was quiet a few. the average mailfunction rate of the virus is equal to the one of companies like roland and yamaha. at least from my point of view i would call it nuts. regards, marc "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?" babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 23:01:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:01:00 EDT Subject: Re: patches (response to several) * From: Elhardt@aol.com <> Getting old was the point I was making, dude. But it also gets old when people have to interject with the same old message "what they do is their choice", "everyone has the right to ...". Of course, I don't dispute that. All the Virus users in this world are nothing but words appearing on my computer screen. It is no skin off my nose, but I can campaign against mediocrity, simplicity and sameness also. Nobody has to read this thread if they don't want to, however it might give some food for thought. And the synthesizer is a different instrument than the guitar and should be used differently. <> I do all my unique sounds on the Nord Modular, JP-8, and Doepfer mostly. I bought the Virus for its multi-timbral capability to be used for composing so I don't have to control the stacks of analog gear I have. I only have temporary stand-in patches that are there only for the current work I am doing. They are no good to anyone else. Now I could for example program the most spectacular strings you ever heard, but you would have to do your part. That is, you would have to run it through a delay line set to my specs, then through a parametric EQ set to my specs, then through a Y-cable into two separate chorus units, each of which would feed a reverb unit set differently than the other. Optionally you might put a Moog String Filter inline or run a bank of short delays with resonance set pretty high. Only then will you get a great string sound. You won't get it from the simple limited resources of the Virus itself. Now this brings us full circle. Back to the point that I can't program your sounds, because we have different stuff. BTW, when I subscribed to this Access board the rules mentioned that topics will split apart and run down paths whose subject matter may not be 100% Virus, but is still none the less related and that is pretty much expected. Whether we end up talking about Synthesists, CDs, musical styles, it still falls under the umbrella. Just by coincidence I was reading in a 1985 issue of Keyboard magazine, a review of factory synth programmers who programmed the factory presets in synths of the day. I quote one of them: "I recommend that people erase the programs as soon as they're remotely familiar with the instrument, or start editing the presets immediately." He thinks people should be using their own sounds. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 23:01:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mit, 9 Sep 98 23:05:37 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: patches * From: Marc Schlaile >As I said before presets should be programmed with both the effects and musical passages in mind. Something only the composer/musician can know. When I used to buy synth records, I would anxiously run home, pop them on my turntable and want to experience a rainbow of sounds I have never heard before. That just doesn't happen much anymore. hi elhard- there're many ways of dealing with sounds. honestly if i would have the time to program every sound from scrap; even then i wouldn't do it everytime because sounds _inspire me to compose_ a certain melody or set me into a mood. i appreciate the work of people like rob because they help me to save some time. it's totally up to you how you deal with sounds but please keep in mind that many musicians out there use presets anyway how easy it might be to program the whole thing on their own. regards, marc p.s. and there even might be a few out there who bought the virus after enjoying rob's sounds "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?" babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 01:11:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:11:08 EDT Subject: help * From: David Ratajczak ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 03:09:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:04:09 EDT Subject: Remove * From: NewLab@aol.com Please remove me from the mailing list ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 04:11:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:10:05 -0700 Subject: Re: help * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Help is available here: http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | TekLab jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Custom software development for the creative community. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 9 20:50:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:55:15 -0700 Subject: Please - need recommendation - AOPEN or SOYO??? * From: "Marcus M¸hlpfordt" Hi, I like to buy a new motherboard - now I can choose between an AOPEN AX6B and a SOYO SY6BA and like to use: PII-266 (soon faster and - maybe - overclocked...) Audiowerk8 Viper330 DawiControl-SCSI RealtekRTL8019 (ISA-LAN-Adapter) ES 1868 Soundcard - witch Board is the better choice - I need a good recommendation!!! Thanxx for a short answer ;-) -- ByeBye - M.M. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 08:33:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:32:48 +0200 Subject: Re: Question * From: !**NIC**! At 20:47 09.09.1998 -0000, you wrote: >* From: Marc Schlaile in the whole time we just sent one virus back. i don't wanna publish how much we sold but i was quiet a few. the average mailfunction rate of the virus is equal to the one of companies like roland and yamaha. at least from my point of view i would call it nuts. > >regards, marc Hi Infectious ones! I got my Virus yesterday, and I am spaced out...!!!!!!!!! Realy coool! though I had not the time to read the whole manuall this night, but the handling seems to be veryvery intuitive. I'll read it all befor bombing ya with questions, but one question is there I have (cause you are discussing bout Rob Papen and his sounds...): There are some/many sounds on my virus where a RP is shown on the display, are those some of Rob Papen? If so, go on Rob, coolest sounds I ever heard and played with!!! Are there others when I do a factory reset (is there something like fac reset?)? Ok, that's it for today, thanx so far! I think I will beam me to nirvana with this crazy meditation machine! ;)) Have fun! !****NIC****! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 09:42:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:41:58 -0700 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Sender-Ip: 195.29.253.34 Organization: MailExcite (http://www.mailexcite.com:80) Subject: Re: Please - need recommendation - AOPEN or SOYO??? * From: "Hrastovcak Zeljko" > >I like to buy a new motherboard - now I can choose between an AOPEN AX6B and a SOYO SY6BA and like to use: > >PII-266 (soon faster and - maybe - overclocked...) Audiowerk8 >Viper330 >DawiControl-SCSI >RealtekRTL8019 (ISA-LAN-Adapter) >ES 1868 Soundcard > >- witch Board is the better choice - I need a good recommendation!!! > >Thanxx for a short answer ;-) > >-- >ByeBye - M.M. AOpen, or even better, Chaintec 6BTM: speed, compatibility with everything, works with all available SDRAMs, my be overclocked to 133MHz FSB, ... Look at for more info. Bye. Hrast. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 11:49:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:45:27 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches and what I like in the Virus * From: "Rob Papen" |* From: "Howard Scarr" |>...we are talking a simple analog style synth here, not some |>digital synth with four layered voices, hundreds of sampled waves, effects |>galore and takes hours to program one patch | |And that's why Mr. Papen is probably not going to get disgustingly rich |selling his Virus sounds (could make a lot more money programming Roland and |Yamaha stuff). Good luck to him! The Virus set is a test set, if it is interesting for my compagny to make sounds for hardware synthesizers. Ofcourse I hope that I can sell a lot of these sets. For Roland (I have that great JP-8) I did never program, and maybe for Yamaha in the future. But first I will release a CD-ROM for the EOS samplers, and its going to be a good one. Why I made also the Signature Set is that I realy love the Virus and can't get the fingers of it. The features are realy great. I love for instance to use the midi-clockable LFO's. Also the idea to use the LFO as envelope is great (with that I did program the 909 kck in the factory-set, try it out with turning the LFO1 speed). In the Virus you can see that the software writers know what people would like to have in their synths. In fact they are synth-lovers them selves. I also find the split function of the filter in the Virus absolute great !! Ofcourse is the basic sound of the Virus very o.k. and at this moment the Virus is the fatest sounding virtual analogue. Also the knops make this synth to a real beast. For this list it si maybe nice to know, what other users like of the Virus, our what they found out. Rob Papen Virus has left the building.... | | | | | |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 11:49:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:45:36 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches and toughts about it... * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: donderdag 10 september 1998 0:31 Onderwerp: Re: patches (response to several) |* From: Elhardt@aol.com | |<> | |Getting old was the point I was making, dude. But it also gets old when |people have to interject with the same old message "what they do is their |choice", "everyone has the right to ...". Of course, I don't dispute that. |All the Virus users in this world are nothing but words appearing on my |computer screen. It is no skin off my nose, but I can campaign against |mediocrity, simplicity and sameness also. Nobody has to read this thread if |they don't want to, however it might give some food for thought. And the |synthesizer is a different instrument than the guitar and should be used |differently. | Well, I think it is good to discuss how in years the use of synthesizers and patches has been developed. Everybody has his own meaning in this. Personally I do not mind that people enjoy having a synth without knowing and using it 100%. There are not that much people who are very deep into it. I can know that, because I did sell synthesizers for 5 years in a shop. So I know that there are a lot of hobby users. If they where not there, there where no synthesizers because they would only sold to a few users (just like in the beginning of the synths). |<> | |I do all my unique sounds on the Nord Modular, JP-8, and Doepfer mostly. I |bought the Virus for its multi-timbral capability to be used for composing so |I don't have to control the stacks of analog gear I have. I only have |temporary stand-in patches that are there only for the current work I am |doing. They are no good to anyone else. Now I could for example program the |most spectacular strings you ever heard, but you would have to do your part. |That is, you would have to run it through a delay line set to my specs, then |through a parametric EQ set to my specs, then through a Y-cable into two |separate chorus units, each of which would feed a reverb unit set differently |than the other. Optionally you might put a Moog String Filter inline or run a |bank of short delays with resonance set pretty high. Only then will you get a |great string sound. You won't get it from the simple limited resources of the |Virus itself. Now this brings us full circle. Back to the point that I can't |program your sounds, because we have different stuff. Thats cool. You are using synths in an very good way. Also is it so that some sounds in music work great, but as stand alone they are less interesting. The combination of sounds in a song can work also very different. I used in a music production the sound 123 CLOCKS (Signature set). I sounded great it that music production. But it can be a sound on which people may think, what can I do with a sound like this. But if you try it out (with midi-clocking on) it can sound great in a piece of music. | |BTW, when I subscribed to this Access board the rules mentioned that topics |will split apart and run down paths whose subject matter may not be 100% |Virus, but is still none the less related and that is pretty much expected. |Whether we end up talking about Synthesists, CDs, musical styles, it still |falls under the umbrella. | |Just by coincidence I was reading in a 1985 issue of Keyboard magazine, a |review of factory synth programmers who programmed the factory presets in |synths of the day. I quote one of them: "I recommend that people erase the |programs as soon as they're remotely familiar with the instrument, or start |editing the presets immediately." He thinks people should be using their own |sounds. That is a good way to think. Only the reality is that many of the keyboardplayers just use presets. If Access would have deliverd the Virus empty (with only the patch start) they would not have sell that much I guess. Happely there are still a lot of people who use the synthesizer 100%. For instance that English group "Ortic Tenticles" (I guess wrong written). They have great synthsounds (new) in their songs. Personally I was very dissapointed in Tangerine Dream of the last decade. In the beginning they had their own sound. Now you only hear factory presets. May the sound be with you, and the Virus too. Rob | |-Elhardt |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 14:25:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:22:48 EDT Subject: Re: Question * From: CKe9644719@aol.com Hi boyz and girlz on the list! Andrea wrote: * From: Dimitri Sijperda >>>did you use netscape....?The o/s updates can become corrupted if you netscape.. >>This is a false, slanderous rumor started by TSi GmbH. >> >>TSi GmbH have a tendency to blame every piece of software or hardware under the sun, before looking at their own product. So far, they have blamed Netscape, Cakewalk, Media Player, the QY700, and all hardware midi data filers. > <> I tend to agree with you . E.g. at the qy-700 list I hear no one blaming any <> other product than qy itself. But then again, maybe that's because Yamaha <> doesn't write to that newsgroup as much as Access does. :p At 08:22 10.09.1998 EDT, you wrote: >* From: CKe9644719@aol.com >Hi boyz and girlz on the list! >Andrea wrote: Ok, I (NIC) wrote it, but this doesn't matter! >Christoph Kemper >ACCESS Music Electronics Ok, thanx for ya reply, Christoph! I got my virus yesterday, and I have to say I love it, from the first day on! Very intuitive and easy-to-understand... and soooooo cool sounding... only question I have is: are there any Rack-mount-ears out there for the virus? And where do I get them? How much are they? Sorry if this somnewhere in a faq or in the manual, I haven't seen this so far.... hanx and get infected! I will spread this virus all around!!! (ok, only his sounds....;))) Seeya NIC ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 18:43:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:41:53 -0700 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Ronald Pieket >TSi GmbH is very technical based, they are in the same house with Waldorf. The person who wrote these 'blames', is Wolfram Franke, our product specialist at TSi and a great synth designer at Waldorf. First, I had to explain to him about the midi file standard. Apparently, he had not read, or understood the standard. The standard clearly states the intended use of format 0 and format 1. And yet, both of you claimed that format 1 is simply "more recent", and that sequencers which can't play format 1 are "out of date". This is technical blunder #1. Then, Wolfram was concerned that you (Christoph) should spend too much time converting your system file to format 0. Again, unfamiliarity with the technical documentation and tools available is apparent - or he would have known that converting between formats is a matter of two minutes. Blunder #2. The bit on TSi's home page about Netscape is technically ridiculous. Netscape does not corrupt files upon download, and even if it did, the zip file format would catch such an error. This is technical blunder #3. And then, there is the issue of both TSi and Access going on about how the Virus correctly follows the midi standard, so the problem MUST be on Cakewalk, QY700, and midi clock. And yet, there is no other synthesizer in the world which has a problem with those three, only the Virus. >Why doesn't the QY700 show 'Out Of Memory' or 'Can't Read that Format'? Similarly, why does the Virus not give an error message if a sysex transfer has failed? >How could we know before why the QY700 fails on the system update? Testing, testing, testing. >How can we now why Cakewalk fails most of the time? It is your job to find out. >But we (and TSi) have double-checked the functions of our products when we publish problems regarding other products. That is the problem, then. If a problem occurs, you must find out WHY it goes wrong. This is different from "double-check our functions". This "well, I checked the code, and it SHOULD work" attitude will not get you any closer to a robust system. Analyze the midi data stream. Find out where and how the Virus loses sync. Find out why (for example) a JP8000 does not. See if you can tweak your system to be less error sensitive. (And yes, I know this is time consuming - I have 18 years experience in writing and debugging consumer softeware.) - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 19:16:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:14:12 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:41:53 -0700, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>How can we now why Cakewalk fails most of the time? >It is your job to find out. I disagree. If it were just Access (and Waldorf) synths whose OS updates failed with Cakewalk then maybe you'd have a point. However, upgrading the OS of my Roland VS-880 also failed many times with Cakewalk - I tried it once with Cubase and it worked. Guess what I blamed? It is for Cakewalk to explain, especially as these upgrades work OK with Logic too. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 20:42:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:40:30 EDT Subject: Re: OS1.54 Updating * From: Elhardt@aol.com When I downloaded an update for the Nord Modular, they provided an application you just clicked on and it transfered the new OS into the synth. How nice that was not having to use any other software/sequencer to do it. Too bad Access doesn't wrap their midi data with an upload application all in one. It would cause a lot fewer headaches. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 21:01:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:00:21 EDT Subject: Re: patches and toughts about it... * From: Elhardt@aol.com << Personally I was very dissapointed in Tangerine Dream of the last decade. In the beginning they had their own sound. Now you only hear factory presets. >> This is exactly what I mean. Synth music in general has degenerated into very bland stuff. I bought a 2 CD set called "Rick Wakeman's Greatest Hits" all done on the synthesizer. Pretty much the same kind of sounds are used throughout the entire two CDs. It contributes to making the music all sound the same. But if I listen Walter Carlos' "Well Tempered Synthesizer" or "Walter Carlos By Request" for example, I am hearing thousands colorful synth timbres used in interesting ways. Not enough people really know how a synthesizer can sound. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 10 23:14:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:01:10 -0700 Subject: Slap on the Hand to Access (was Re: OS1.54?) * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 08:25 AM 9/10/98 EDT, Christoph Kemper @ ACCESS Music Electronics wrote: >Ronald was able to explained me the technical reasons for that failing: the QY700 doesn't have a half MB memory to load our system, so we will provide our >system on Midi-File-Format 0 in the future, that can be read directly from disk. No Problem. Which is what you really should have done in the first place, given that many people use the QY700. >But the blame still goes to the QY700! Why? Because you produced something that's incompatible with the QY700 without first checking what the QY700 was designed to do? Half a MB is plenty for music-writing with the QY700. I rarely, if ever, run out of space with my tunes, and I write a lot of music with my QY700. So it's not a *blame* point for the QY700. The fact of the matter is, you released the OS updates in a format that was not compatible with the QY700, and you've since found the solution, so there's no *blame* going anywhere. That's just childish. >Why doesn't the QY700 show 'Out Of Memory' or 'Can't Read that Format'? It actually does show "Out of Memory" if you try to load the Access OS upgrade MIDI files. Why don't you know this? >How could we know before why the QY700 fails on the system update? Testing? If Wolfram already knew about it, then clearly you had access to a QY700 to work out the solution? Also, I reported months ago that I couldn't use my QY700 to do the upgrade and had to use Cakewalk instead. >But we (and TSi) have double-checked the functions of our products when we publish problems regarding other products. I understand your position, and truly I'm not trying to flame you or anything. I'm just saying that it's really pathetic to "blame" another piece of hardware that you haven't tested something on, when there's a perfectly reasonable solution at your fingertips. The QY700 is (like the Access Virus) an excellent tool for musicians. It didn't take much for me to figure out that I couldn't do OS upgrades with the QY700, so I hooked up Cakewalk and did them that way (never had a problem with CW doing OS upgrades either, btw). Now that Access has found a solution, all you need to do is say "we found a way for QY700 users to do OS upgrades" and turn this into a positive image for your company, rather than *blaming* someone elses piece of gear for your own lack of understanding about the way it works. Why am I so emphatic about this? For the simple fact that because of its *excellent* products, Access Music Electronics is in the position of influencing peoples decisions, like it or not. And having them propagate this idea that there's something wrong with the QY700 (when there isn't) doesn't help existing QY700 users or future ones either. It'd be like me saying that there's something wrong with the Access Virus because it hangs quite frequently, even though I now know that this has been fixed and is no longer a problem because a solution has been found (upgrade to the latest OS). So, a slap on the hand to you, but not a hard one because quite frankly you guys have an excellent product line, and I love my Virus to death. Please, just start telling people "we worked out what we needed to do so you can do OS upgrades on the QY700, here's the solution" instead of saying "the QY700 is braindead". j. -- Jay Vaughan | TekLab jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Custom software development for the creative community. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 01:35:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:34:36 EDT Subject: Re: Question * From: CKe9644719@aol.com In einer eMail vom 10.09.98 15:10:34 MEZ, schreiben Sie: << only question I have is: are there any Rack-mount-ears out there for the virus? And where do I get them? How much are they? >> 1. Yes 2. At your music shop 3. About 50 DM By the way, the price for the rack ears is non-profit for Access and TSi. Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 01:32:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 98 01:35:43 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Buddha > >Hi, >after having worked programming the Virus "in the field" some more, a couple of things have ocurred to me as useful additions. > >1. The ability to tune the sub oscillator up or down in semi-tone increments, rather than tracking an octave below oscillator 1 Agreed 100%!!!! Also for more fatter string sounds without loosing voices it would be great! Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 02:51:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.de Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:44:43 +0200 Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: Martin Zuther Am/Um 23:30 10.09.98 -0700 schrieben Sie: >* From: Buddha > >Hi, >after having worked programming the Virus "in the field" some more, a couple of things have ocurred to me as useful additions. > >1. The ability to tune the sub oscillator up or down in semi-tone ... 2. Having the chorus units be assignable, rather than hardwired to the ... Totally agreed. Some more: 3. I'd like to be able to turn off the TWIN-Mode (per voice) in the MULTI- settings. When I use a single the TWIN-Mode is quite appreciated, but in MULTIS it just eats up half of the polyphony. And I don't want to have a double copy of any voice (one with and one without TWIN)... That would be great. 4. It would be great if all ASSIGNs would have three parameters to modulate. What happens to me quite often is that I use ASSIGN 1 (with one mod-parameter) for the beginning - just to keep ASSIGN 2 and 3 free for bigger modulations. And then I want to add another parameter - and that means a lot of extra work. 5. And last but not least - what do you think of a "morphing" parameter like in other virtuals? Would be great, maybe in MULTIS: just define two different voices for each channel and then "morph" between them with an assignable source. I loved the morphing feature when I tried the NordLead in the shop!!! Thanks for listening, ACCESS, and for spreading the virus! Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de http://listen.to/mzuther ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 01:32:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fre, 11 Sep 98 01:36:50 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: OS1.54 Updating * From: Marc Schlaile >When I downloaded an update for the Nord Modular, they provided an application >you just clicked on and it transfered the new OS into the synth. How nice that was not having to use any other software/sequencer to do it. Too bad Access doesn't wrap their midi data with an upload application all in one. >It >would cause a lot fewer headaches. c'mon, the handling of a midi file is really easy, if you got the right sequencer ;-) if you got a headache from uppin a midifile you seem to be an extremly lucky guy. do you know how much manpower it takes to write such an utility when you're in the synth buiss and you don't deal with windows software? marc "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?" babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 04:50:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 98 04:54:20 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Totally agreed. Some more: > >3. I'd like to be able to turn off the TWIN-Mode (per voice) in the MULTI- settings. When I use a single the TWIN-Mode is quite appreciated, but in MULTIS it just eats up half of the polyphony. And I don't want to have a double copy of any voice (one with and one without TWIN)... That would be great. Hi Martin, this allready works but only via controller data. Send the twin mode controller on the desired channel and it will appear as you want it. I use it with the Envirinment in Logic, but it should also work with a mixer object in Cubase. BTW: Yesterday I tried out a sound where I needed a portamento. I found that it reacts totally different from the one in the AN1x (but not as I expected). What is bothering me: if you press all notes (voices) at c1 and then play c3 12 times I would expect that I hear 12 portamentos until every note has moved up to c3. But the Virus doesnt..... He does one portamento and then all following voices are on c3. This is not so cool... Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 06:34:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:32:01 EDT Subject: Re: OS1.54 Updating * From: Elhardt@aol.com ***When I downloaded an update for the Nord Modular, they provided an application you just clicked on and it transfered the new OS into the synth.*** <> I haven't updated my Virus OS yet, but I was just making the obsevation in response to all those who are always having problems. Writing code to pull a file off disk and shoot it out the serial port it not a big task. However that application might also temporily download the patches in the Virus before update and restore them after the update. Just saying that would be nice. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 08:23:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:24:52 -0700 Subject: Re: patches and toughts about it... * From: Ronald Pieket ><< Personally I was very dissapointed in Tangerine Dream of the last decade. The only remaining member of the TD we know and love from the 70s and 80s is Edgar Froese. It is clear (at least, to me) that the musical talent in the group was Christopher Franke (for the musical composition), and Peter Baumann (for the sounds and synth programming). Froese's keyboard and guitar playing blended well with these two, but on his own, he is merely mediocre. >But if I listen Walter Carlos' "Well Tempered Synthesizer" or "Walter Carlos By Request" for example, I am hearing thousands colorful synth timbres used in interesting ways. Seconded. In addition, in "Switched-on Back 2000" you can hear that Wendy Carlos can equally program digital synths, with depth, expression, and color. - Ronald. (Who is awaiting, with great anticipation, the new Wendy Carlos release this fall, and the re-release of the full-length Timesteps - possibly the best ever original composition for Moog synthesizer) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 00:55:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:30:07 -0700 Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions Subject: Sub Oscillations * From: Buddha Hi, after having worked programming the Virus "in the field" some more, a couple of things have ocurred to me as useful additions. 1. The ability to tune the sub oscillator up or down in semi-tone increments, rather than tracking an octave below oscillator 1. Mainly I find myself wishing that it could be tuned up in octave steps, so that for example when I am using FM and an extremely low setting of osc. 1 which tends to give very interesting and unique textures, I would have another oscillator to run in unison or whatever interval so as to give more body to the sound. At present if osc. 1 is tied up performing the low FM duties, then the sub oscillator is an octave below that, and unfortunately not a lot of use, if not inaudible. As well as this, a very important addition would be to add a saw wave to it's waveforms, thereby effectively giving the Virus another oscillator, albeit a basic "meat and potatoes" one, but one which would increase the power and flexibilty of the machine by quite a large amount. 2. Having the chorus units be assignable, rather than hardwired to the first 4 parts. I find myself in an existential crisis whenever I start a new track. I can't decide (or know) in advance which parts will need the chorus facilities. What has happened so far (other wasting large parts of my life trying to predict the unpredictable) is that near the mixdown, I find myself shuffling parts around inside the multi and midi channels around on the sequencer to enable one part to use a chorus, or to audition a part with chorus. While this isn't the end of the world and isn't impossible to do, I could do without the extra work involved. If I was able to assign one of the 4 chorus resources to any part in the multi, with perhaps a message telling me that I would have to free up a resource (and the channels numbers that they are currently assigned to) if they were all assigned, this would make it much friendlier to use. Thanks for listening, and thanks for making a great synth. Bilbo Bagginz Producer "Cosmosis" and "Laughing Buddha" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 08:43:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:44:20 -0700 Subject: Re: OS1.54 Updating * From: Ronald Pieket >When I downloaded an update for the Nord Modular, they provided an application you just clicked on and it transfered the new OS into the synth. How nice that was not having to use any other software/sequencer to do it. Too bad Access doesn't wrap their midi data with an upload application all in one. It would cause a lot fewer headaches. Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! Headaches galore for anyone who does not have a PC in their studio AND Microsoft Windows(tm) AND a midi port. At least a midi file is universal, with it you can upgrade using a Mac, a PC, an Atari ST, under Linux, even with no computer in your midi setup at all, with just a keyboard workstation. - Ronald. (Long live the computer free studio!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 08:55:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:55:40 +0200 Subject: Re: Question (Flight Case?) * From: !**NIC**! At 19:34 10.09.1998 EDT, you wrote: >* From: CKe9644719@aol.com >Christoph Kemper Thanx Christoph! And another question (really the last one!!): Is there a flight case out fro the Virus (or will come soon??)?? Would be cool, I wouldn't take him with me without one... Thanx again NIC ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 09:57:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl (Unverified) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:54:20 +0200 Subject: Re: OS1.54 Updating, click and play dos programme * From: Dimitri S Hello! I think I am going to write some batch files to be able to update the OS with a doubleclick. It's going to be something like: ECHO OFF MDF.EXE OS.SYX And loading: INPUT %1 MDF.EXE FROMVIRUS.SYX RENAME FROMVIRUS.SYX %1.SYX Works only with SBMIDI and PC. Dimitri ------------------------- IP/URL: 145.99.128.7/dimi di-mi@dds.nl.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM to reply) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 13:48:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [194.205.108.15] Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:47:34 PDT Subject: Re: patches * From: "Pierre Zeeman" Hi all This is the most bizarre debate. Surely it's rather facile to suggest that a person shouldn't do something which may prove quite lucrative for them (and help others) just because of the rather far-fetched idea that this may result in manufacturers taking the knobs away and going back to DAC programming. It smacks of that purist attitude displayed in the analogue newsgroups. Aside from the fact that seeing how other people have programmed sounds can definitely give you new impetus to program your own stuff (in the same way as hearing a good track spurs you on to improving your own music), we cannot forget that a lot of people will be purchasing viri, nordleads, jp8000s, etc to put into a studio because the analogue sound is currently in vogue. These people may not even like that sound... They certainly won't want to spend time programming and by purchasing sounds they can give their clients the maximum possible benefits of a new machine. It's no coincidence that by far the most soundsets come out in the first couple of months of a new synth's release -> experienced programmers taking advantage of their higher position on the learning curve. Good luck Rob, I hope you sell a bunch. It takes time and effort to program entire banks of sounds and you should be rewarded for that. Pierre ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 14:04:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [194.205.108.15] Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:03:04 PDT Subject: Re: patches * From: "Pierre Zeeman" Hi all. Again. While I agree entirely with Elhardt's point that - >Everybody is supposed to have his own sound. That's what makes a person's >style sound different than others. If everybody uses the same sounds, that >just leads to additional mediocrity in music. You would be amazed at how many >times I have heard the Roland D-50 patch number 81 on TV shows and movies. It >stands out like a sore thumb. Sure a person can tweek your sounds to save >time when in the studio, but a person can also tweek his own sounds that he >created earlier, to save time. It is these people who just gush over synthesizer patches as if they were the greatest things, when by themselves >they are not very interesting. It's the case where the whole piece of music >is greater than the sum of its parts. - I disagree that it should be applied baldly to the practice of commercial synth programming. Most music, let's face it, is boring and generic. It's always been that way, it's by no means a new phenomenon. Music today is a multi-billion dollar industry that prizes safety over innovation. Those of us on the latter half of that continuum might not like this, but it is the reality of the situation. Rob is just taking advantage of the fact that a lot of the people who purchase a virus will not be spending the kind of time and effort he has in creating sounds. A studio owner once explained it to me on the basis that since he gets session musicians when he needs a piece to be played with a particular degree of skill, he has no objection to getting "session" programmers to do the same regarding sound creation. Pierre p.s. have you never, ever used a preset? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 14:26:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [194.205.108.15] Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:24:22 PDT Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: "Pierre Zeeman" Bilbo - Have you used the Virus on any tracks yet? I have the last 2 Cosmosis releases on Transient (Intergalactic & Do it) and I have been straining my ears for it... Pierre ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 16:27:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:25:48 EDT Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: CKe9644719@aol.com Ronald wrote: >>TSi GmbH is very technical based, they are in the same house with Waldorf. The person who wrote these 'blames', is Wolfram Franke, our product specialist >>at TSi and a great synth designer at Waldorf. >First, I had to explain to him about the midi file standard. Apparently, he had not read, or understood the standard. The standard clearly states the intended use of format 0 and format 1. And yet, both of you claimed that format 1 is simply "more recent", and that sequencers which can't play format 1 are "out of date". This is technical blunder #1. Since we had a private conversation about these problems and since you found the solution for this, I think you should understand my early argues, even they are "out of date" regarding the QY700. The problem is: 1. Midi file format 0 reflects the sequence of events in the file (linear). 2. Midi file format 1 does not. 3. The QY 700 is able to play format 0 directly from disk, due to its linearity. 4. The QY 700 will load format 1 into its memory first, to reorganize the events, before playing it. 5. The Virus OS is too big to be held in the QY700 memory (we are not very proud about such long midi files) 6. We provided our OS as format 1 (without expecting any consequences and without thinking that format 1 is more recent) 7. The QY700 must fail in this situation, because it tries to load the OS (format 1) into its memory. 8. We will provide our OS on format 0 in the future. >Then, Wolfram was concerned that you (Christoph) should spend too much time converting your system file to format 0. Again, unfamiliarity with the technical documentation and tools available is apparent - or he would have known that converting between formats is a matter of two minutes. Blunder #2. Since I promised you a couple weeks ago in our private conversation that we will provide our OS in format 0, I wonder why you discussed this fact with Wolfram again? >And then, there is the issue of both TSi and Access going on about how the Virus correctly follows the midi standard, so the problem MUST be on Cakewalk, QY700, and midi clock. And yet, there is no other synthesizer in the world which has a problem with those three, only the Virus. How do you know it is only the Virus? >>Why doesn't the QY700 show 'Out Of Memory' or 'Can't Read that Format'? >Similarly, why does the Virus not give an error message if a sysex transfer has failed? The Virus always gives an error message if a transfer fails due to bad data. When the transfer just stops from some reason, the Virus keeps waiting for the next messages. We never expected that the transfer will just stop somewhere, because the sequencer run out of memory. A weird solution would be an error message from the Virus, saying that the connected sequencer probably has memory problems. >>How could we know before why the QY700 fails on the system update? >Testing, testing, testing. I thought you found the solution a couple weeks ago!? >>How can we now why Cakewalk fails most of the time? >It is your job to find out. I hope it's not our job to find out why some software sequencers have a problem with some midi interfaces. >>But we (and TSi) have double-checked the functions of our products when we publish problems regarding other products. >That is the problem, then. If a problem occurs, you must find out WHY it goes wrong. This is different from "double-check our functions". This "well, I checked the code, and it SHOULD work" attitude will not get you any closer to a robust system. >(And yes, I know this is time consuming - I have 18 years experience in writing and debugging consumer softeware.) With this huge experience you will know that there is a difference between checking functions (or functionality) and checking just the code. >Find out where and how the Virus loses sync. Find out why (for example) a JP8000 does not. I was told that the Virus works fine with QY700 in that manner. Does the Virus loose sync on the QY700 at your house? Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 16:30:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:27:13 EDT Subject: Re: OS1.54 Updating * From: CKe9644719@aol.com >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >At 08:25 AM 9/10/98 EDT, Christoph Kemper @ ACCESS Music Electronics wrote: >>Ronald was able to explained me the technical reasons for that failing: the QY700 doesn't have a half MB memory to load our system, so we will provide >our >>system on Midi-File-Format 0 in the future, that can be read directly from disk. No Problem. >Testing? If Wolfram already knew about it, then clearly you had access to a QY700 to work out the solution? Not clearly. Wolfram is not a member of our company, he is not working at our house. >It actually does show "Out of Memory" if you try to load the Access OS upgrade MIDI files. Why don't you know this? I was told that the Virus failed while transferring the OS, I never heard that the QY700 shows a clear error message when the file is loaded. Ronald never mentioned this error message, that immediately would have brought the solution. Is it possible to start sending a truncated OS file even if this error message occurs? Do you see the misunderstanding? Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 16:30:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:28:13 EDT Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: CKe9644719@aol.com * From: Buddha >Hi, >after having worked programming the Virus "in the field" some more, a couple of things have ocurred to me as useful additions. >1. The ability to tune the sub oscillator up or down in semi-tone increments, rather than tracking an octave below oscillator 1. The reason why the Virus provides a suboscillator is that it only takes 1 or 2% of the total DSP power; it is a simple slave of Osc1. Any feature for an independent choice of frequency (even fine tuning) would make the suboscillator to a third master oscillator, which would occupy more than 25% of the DSP. >2. Having the chorus units be assignable, rather than hardwired to the first 4 parts. A nice solution for this is planned for the future. Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 17:13:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:10:15 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Question * From: "Rob Papen" |Hi Infectious ones! |I got my Virus yesterday, and I am spaced out...!!!!!!!!! |Realy coool! though I had not the time to read the whole manuall this |night, but the handling seems to be veryvery intuitive. I'll read it all |befor bombing ya with questions, but one question is there I have (cause |you are discussing bout Rob Papen and his sounds...): |There are some/many sounds on my virus where a RP is shown on the display, |are those some of Rob Papen? If so, go on Rob, coolest sounds I ever heard |and played with!!! Are there others when I do a factory reset (is there |something like fac reset?)? |Ok, that's it for today, thanx so far! |I think I will beam me to nirvana with this crazy meditation machine! ;)) |Have fun! Thank you for the compliment, makes me very happy. In the future I hope more people will discover my sounds also for the samplers. Rob Papen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl Address: ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 Account number: Rabobank Pey-Posterholt 14.20.11.649 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> What is out our comming out: -Signature Sound-Set for Access Virus (out !!) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for EMU EOS samplers (release in November 1998) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for AKAI samplers (release beginning 1999) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> | |!****NIC****! |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 18:52:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:52:27 -0700 Subject: Re: OS1.54? * From: Ronald Pieket >>First, I had to explain to him about the midi file standard. Apparently, he had not read, or understood the standard. (...) > >Since we had a private conversation about these problems and since you found the solution for this, I think you should understand my early argues, even they are "out of date" regarding the QY700. (...) I understand why you said what you said - and that is my point. You said what you said because you had not read or understood the midi file standard documentation. >>Then, Wolfram was concerned that you (Christoph) should spend too much time converting your system file to format 0. (...) > >Since I promised you a couple weeks ago in our private conversation that we will provide our OS in format 0, I wonder why you discussed this fact with Wolfram again? Because Wolfram asked. He brought the subject up again, repeating his favorite argument about Netscape file corruption. In response, I explained what you and I had discussed. He replied by saying that he would contact you, and tell you not to bother because it would be time consuming. >>(...) so the problem MUST be on >>Cakewalk, QY700, and midi clock. And yet, there is no other synthesizer in the world which has a problem with those three, only the Virus. > >How do you know it is only the Virus? Because I'm also on the QY700 mailing list, and people there use the QY700 with many other synths. No one has reported any problems, other than with the Virus. >>(...) Similarly, why does the Virus not give an error message if a sysex transfer has failed? > >The Virus always gives an error message if a transfer fails due to bad data. (...) No it does not. If I send a sound bank from the QY to the Virus, most of the sounds are corrupted, but no error message is given. I reported this, exhaustively, several months ago. >>>How could we know before why the QY700 fails on the system update? > >>Testing, testing, testing. > >I thought you found the solution a couple weeks ago!? That is not the point. Your question was "how could we have known" - and my answer is "by testing". >>>How can we now why Cakewalk fails most of the time? >> >>It is your job to find out. > >I hope it's not our job to find out why some software sequencers have a problem with some midi interfaces. No. But it is your job to find out what is wrong in the midi data stream coming from Cakewalk. My point is that it is not your job to only find out THAT there is something wrong, but WHAT is wrong (with the midi data as received by the Virus). Then, you can consider if it is possible to compensate for it on your side. If the error is in the timing, perhaps compensate, if there are bits missing, tough. But you must find out what is wrong first, not just which side. "Oh good, it isn't us, so stuff the customer." >>(...) Find out where and how the Virus loses sync. Find out why (for example) a JP8000 does not. > >I was told that the Virus works fine with QY700 in that manner. Does the Virus loose sync on the QY700 at your house? It works fine here. But others on the list have reported problems. I'm also on the JP8000 list, and have never heard about such problems there. Apparently, Roland have found a work around for missing clock pulses. Perhaps something like this: When receiving midi clock ticks, store the time interval between them. If, during play, an interval is suddenly twice or three times as long, you can assume that ticks were lost. You can then compensate for that. - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 22:15:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:04:28 -0500 Subject: Re[2]: Question (Flight Case?)/trumpet case!!!! * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) The virus perfectly sits in a used Trumpet case!!!!!!! Go to your local store that sells/rents used band equipment and buy a trumpet case today!!! Mundo wikidDrama REcords - Dallas ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Question (Flight Case?) Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 9/11/98 8:55 AM * From: !**NIC**! At 19:34 10.09.1998 EDT, you wrote: >* From: CKe9644719@aol.com >Christoph Kemper Thanx Christoph! And another question (really the last one!!): Is there a flight case out fro the Virus (or will come soon??)?? Would be cool, I wouldn't take him with me without one... Thanx again NIC ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 11 21:25:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:24:01 EDT Subject: Re: patches * From: OBOTA@aol.com In a message dated 98-09-08 22:15:26 EDT, you write: << They want the same sound they hear everywhere else, and that is not what the philosophy behind the synthesizer should be. >> You are right, and that is definitely not what the philosophy behind synthesizers should be! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 13 17:35:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:55:35 -0700 Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: Buddha access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: "Pierre Zeeman" > >Bilbo - > >Have you used the Virus on any tracks yet? I have the last 2 Cosmosis releases on Transient (Intergalactic & Do it) and I have been straining my ears for it... > >Pierre Hi Pierre, no, nothing that I have used the Virus on has been released yet, as there is always a lag between mastering, then cutting, then releasing. But rest assured, it's crawling all over the track that I'm currently cooking up ;-) Those last 2 releases mainly featured (if my memory serves me correctly) lots of Nord Lead, K2000 and much sample mangling inside the Emu E4X. Catchalata, Bilbo Bagginz > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 13 17:35:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:26:16 -0700 Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations(Autonomy for the sub oscillator) * From: Buddha access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Buddha > >>Hi, >>after having worked programming the Virus "in the field" some more, a couple of things have ocurred to me as useful additions. > >>1. The ability to tune the sub oscillator up or down in semi-tone increments, rather than tracking an octave below oscillator 1. > >The reason why the Virus provides a suboscillator is that it only takes 1 or 2% of the total DSP power; it is a simple slave of Osc1. Any feature for an independent choice of frequency (even fine tuning) would make the suboscillator to a third master oscillator, which would occupy more than 25% of the DSP. > >>2. Having the chorus units be assignable, rather than hardwired to the first 4 parts. > >A nice solution for this is planned for the future. > >Christoph Kemper >ACCESS > Hi Christoph, I guessed the reason for the fixed interval was probably to make the minimum demand on the processor resources. Having said that, personally I think it would be a major improvement just to be able to switch this slave up and down in octaves, certainly from my (programming ) point of view. I don't claim to know much about what goes on under the bonnet of the Virus or virtual analogues, but if this was software switchable, surely it wouldn't demand much more (if any more?) of the processing power. It' s great news that a solution for the chorus situation is pending. Thanks for listening, Bilbo Bagginz ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 14:56:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [194.205.108.8] Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:55:06 PDT Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: "Pierre Zeeman" Hello Bilbo and other list-eners >Hi Pierre, >no, nothing that I have used the Virus on has been released yet, as there is >always a lag between mastering, then cutting, then releasing. But rest assured, >it's crawling all over the track that I'm currently cooking up ;-) I look forward to hearing it. I'm interested to know if anyone has used the virus in a finished work yet, i.e. something that is available, in one form or another, for purchase. I'm very curious about what music others are making with their viri. What I am doing is pretty much in the same vein as Bilbo - psychedelic trance/techo - although nowhere near as accomplished (yet). I'd also like to know if you've used the virus in multi mode for mastering purposes or merely in single mode, multitracked. The reason I ask is that there seem to be some strange (and unfortunately unrepeatable) artefacts that occasionally occur when using more than, say, two parts in a composition - weird clicking, bizarre panning incidents, etc. Has this happened to anyone else (i.e. a long thread which I have simply missed) ? It's not a major problem, just a bit strange. later infectigators Pierre ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 17:12:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:53:47 -0500 Subject: Virus on vinyl/cd * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) To anyone that is interested.... I have a 12" ep that uses the mighty Virus: Mundo "Carjack ep" WikidDrama Records U.S. 2 tracks drum&bass 1 track dark breakbeat depending on where you live, it can be purchased from: UK - Vinyl Network - www.vinyl-net.com Canada - Eastern Bloc. Records U.S. - BreakbeatScience NYC/Jungle Nut (Nutty) Distribution/or any store that orders from T.R.C. Distribution I used it in Single mode on one track and multimode on the other 2. Order one and have a listen! :) Mundo WikidDrama - Dallas ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 9/14/98 5:55 AM * From: "Pierre Zeeman" Hello Bilbo and other list-eners >Hi Pierre, >no, nothing that I have used the Virus on has been released yet, as there is >always a lag between mastering, then cutting, then releasing. But rest assured, >it's crawling all over the track that I'm currently cooking up ;-) I look forward to hearing it. I'm interested to know if anyone has used the virus in a finished work yet, i.e. something that is available, in one form or another, for purchase. I'm very curious about what music others are making with their viri. What I am doing is pretty much in the same vein as Bilbo - psychedelic trance/techo - although nowhere near as accomplished (yet). I'd also like to know if you've used the virus in multi mode for mastering purposes or merely in single mode, multitracked. The reason I ask is that there seem to be some strange (and unfortunately unrepeatable) artefacts that occasionally occur when using more than, say, two parts in a composition - weird clicking, bizarre panning incidents, etc. Has this happened to anyone else (i.e. a long thread which I have simply missed) ? It's not a major problem, just a bit strange. later infectigators Pierre ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 17:19:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:24:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: Kai Niggemann access-list@tl36.teklab.com schrieb: >I'm interested to know if anyone has used the virus in a finished work yet, i.e. something that is available, in one form or another, for purchase. Hi Pierre, I used my Virus on the Track "Good Night Europe" released under the project name FACT on the Face2Face Volume 5 CD-ROM as an audio bonus track. This CD-ROM contains several techno fonts for the computer and is available from http://www.fontshop.de -- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 18:39:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:35:27 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:55:06 PDT, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I'm interested to know if anyone has used the virus in a finished work yet, i.e. something that is available, in one form or another, for A virus was used in my Proxima Centauri release handled by Synth Music Direct and will also feature on a track from my forthcoming album "Lore". URL for SMD: www.neuharm.demon.co.uk Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 19:33:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:58:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Virus on vinyl/cd * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) one last note.... www.vinyl-net.com is a good drum&bass mail order site so any German headz should check this site out when looking to order (unfortunately I don't have any stocked in Germany right now...) happy Virus owner, Mundo ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Virus on vinyl/cd Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 9/14/98 9:53 AM * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) To anyone that is interested.... I have a 12" ep that uses the mighty Virus: Mundo "Carjack ep" WikidDrama Records U.S. 2 tracks drum&bass 1 track dark breakbeat depending on where you live, it can be purchased from: UK - Vinyl Network - www.vinyl-net.com Canada - Eastern Bloc. Records U.S. - BreakbeatScience NYC/Jungle Nut (Nutty) Distribution/or any store that orders from T.R.C. Distribution I used it in Single mode on one track and multimode on the other 2. Order one and have a listen! :) Mundo WikidDrama - Dallas ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 9/14/98 5:55 AM * From: "Pierre Zeeman" Hello Bilbo and other list-eners >Hi Pierre, >no, nothing that I have used the Virus on has been released yet, as there is >always a lag between mastering, then cutting, then releasing. But rest assured, >it's crawling all over the track that I'm currently cooking up ;-) I look forward to hearing it. I'm interested to know if anyone has used the virus in a finished work yet, i.e. something that is available, in one form or another, for purchase. I'm very curious about what music others are making with their viri. What I am doing is pretty much in the same vein as Bilbo - psychedelic trance/techo - although nowhere near as accomplished (yet). I'd also like to know if you've used the virus in multi mode for mastering purposes or merely in single mode, multitracked. The reason I ask is that there seem to be some strange (and unfortunately unrepeatable) artefacts that occasionally occur when using more than, say, two parts in a composition - weird clicking, bizarre panning incidents, etc. Has this happened to anyone else (i.e. a long thread which I have simply missed) ? It's not a major problem, just a bit strange. later infectigators Pierre ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 22:04:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:57:28 +0200 Subject: Midi connection-problem * From: Mathias Samuelsson Can someone help me to connect my Virus. I've tried different setups, but they doesn't seem to work. I wan't to connect my Masterkeyboard with MIDI In /Out. to the Virus and in to the PC-soundcard with MIDI In /Out. The Masterkeyboard doesn't have MIDI Thru, but I have a thru-box that I think I can use instead. And when I connect only the Virus MIDI In to the PC's MIDI Out and vice versa and play a midi file in Cubase, I only get some strange noises and the Virus locks up. PLEASE Help me! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 22:31:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:31:05 +0100 Subject: Unsubscibe * From: Bridget And Tony ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 15 00:34:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:35:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: Anders Palmqvist access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Pierre Zeeman" >I'd also like to know if you've used the virus in multi mode for mastering purposes or merely in single mode, multitracked. The reason I ask is that there seem to be some strange (and unfortunately unrepeatable) artefacts that occasionally occur when using more than, say, two parts in a composition - weird clicking, bizarre panning incidents, etc. Has this happened to anyone else (i.e. a long thread which I have simply missed) ? It's not a major problem, just a bit strange. > >later infectigators > >Pierre Yeah, I think I´ve experienced the same thing. It´s like you´re going through the maximum voices polyfonic roof way too early. The thing is that I haven´t got a foolproof setup and I haven´t put it to a real test. But even though being quite familiar with the architecture and what twinmode does to the loss of voices it feels it´s getting too busy too soon. Getting the result of clicking noises and loss of bottom in some sounds. Anders ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 14 20:13:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:09:37 -0700 Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: Buddha access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: "Pierre Zeeman" > >Hello Bilbo and other list-eners > >>Hi Pierre, >>no, nothing that I have used the Virus on has been released yet, as >there is >>always a lag between mastering, then cutting, then releasing. But rest >assured, >>it's crawling all over the track that I'm currently cooking up ;-) > >I look forward to hearing it. > >I'm interested to know if anyone has used the virus in a finished work yet, i.e. something that is available, in one form or another, for purchase. I'm very curious about what music others are making with their viri. What I am doing is pretty much in the same vein as Bilbo - psychedelic trance/techo - although nowhere near as accomplished (yet). > >I'd also like to know if you've used the virus in multi mode for mastering purposes or merely in single mode, multitracked. The reason I ask is that there seem to be some strange (and unfortunately unrepeatable) artefacts that occasionally occur when using more than, say, two parts in a composition - weird clicking, bizarre panning incidents, etc. Has this happened to anyone else (i.e. a long thread which I have simply missed) ? It's not a major problem, just a bit strange. > >later infectigators > >Pierre Hi Pierre, I haven't had any problems at all using multi mode, so far it seems to be completely stable. Bilbo Bagginz > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 15 04:56:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:55:25 EDT Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: WYDMusic@aol.com I used the Virus on my last 2 remixes. The first one is out now: Information Society "What's On Your Mind" on Hypnotic. The second is Bow Wow Wow's "Do You Wanna Hold Me" which appears as a bside on "I Want Candy" out on Cleopatra Records in mid September. The Virus was brand new when we did these and we went a little nuts with it. It's all over both tracks. Additionally, we used an EMAX II, JV1080, Juno 106, DR660, DW8000 and M3R. Both releases can be purchased through massmusic.com Darren Kramer Who's Your Daddy Productions wydmusic@aol.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 15 13:02:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:59:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Info for German Virus users who want the Rob Papen Signature Set. * From: "Rob Papen" Hi, I had many reactions by e-mail about the soundset I released. But It is difficult for many people to order this set in Germany. Therefore I have decided to take an exclusive distribution point in Germany. So if you would like to order the set in Germany you can contact; Nice Bytes Music Marktstrasse 6 72275 Alpirsback 0744-491401 our 491404 www.nicebytes.de I hope this will work better for German Virus lovers. Regards, Rob Papen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl Address: ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 Account number: Rabobank Pey-Posterholt 14.20.11.649 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is out our comming out: -Signature Sound-Set for Access Virus (out !!) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for EMU EOS samplers (release in November 1998) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for AKAI samplers (release beginning 1999) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 15 13:41:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:38:08 +0100 Subject: Re: Unsubscibe * From: The Brothers Testas We had some problems with the inputs. they did'nt put anything in sometimes. sometimes they do fine. David ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 15 16:18:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:25:15 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: about the sychro with cakewalk * From: "Paulo Abreu" Hi I do not use cakewalk (I use opcode vision-mac without any timing or sys upgrade problem with the virus) but i saw this in a news group and i thought that it could be something to think about... I mean, maybe CK and WFrank are right about cakewalk ; ) " Subject: Timing problem w/ Cakewalk Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:32:12 -0400 From: "Kenneth J. Flagg" Organization: IBM.NET Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth I'm using Cakewalk Pro Audio 6.0 with an Alesis QS7 as the master controller, and the MIDI interface of my SB16. The playback will, every once in a while, jitter, skip a fraction of a beat, or delay a fraction of a beat, and it's very audible and sounds like manure. Also, sometimes a random note will just appear, and when I'm recording, sometimes notes will sustain indefinitely, and some will only start to play when I RELEASE the key that I'm playing. Somehow, I've managed to get around it for a while, but I don't think I can take it any longer. Anybody out there with any suggestions? (P.S. I'm using internal timing, not audio timing)" And also, I have been using and abusing : ) the virus in multimode and I never had any glitches or problems, and I still use 1.53 (never had the time to upgrade to 1.54) that no longer gave me problems as I stopped using Snap mode on the buttons...yeah right, I will have to upgrade to use snap mode. Bye, from sunny : ) Portugal Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 17 22:01:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:54:09 -0500 Subject: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) Attn Great Infected Ones :) I want to purchase a midi patchbay or one of those midi boxes/rack with multiple midi in's and midi out's... I'm looking to expand to at least 128 channels... Does anyone have any recommendations for one that works well with the Virus? I would also be hooking up a DrumKat3.7 and an Emu E6400 sampler to it (as well as other gear) but I was most concerned with compatibility with the Virus and DrumKat3.7.... any suggestions? Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 17 23:02:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: dj radon I recently got an Mark of The Unicorn Midi Express XT, and it's pretty wonderful. It has a bunch of presets, including 8 user programmable that make it great for playing around even if your computer's turned off. I also hear good things about Emagic's Unitor8, but it's a bit scarce. Don't pay more than $330 for the Midi Express XT... that's what I paid at Guitar Center. -radon On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > > >Attn Great Infected Ones :) > >I want to purchase a midi patchbay or one of those midi boxes/rack with multiple midi in's and midi out's... > >I'm looking to expand to at least 128 channels... > > >Does anyone have any recommendations for one that works well with the Virus? > >I would also be hooking up a DrumKat3.7 and an Emu E6400 sampler to it (as well as other gear) but I was most concerned with compatibility with the Virus and DrumKat3.7.... > >any suggestions? > > >Mundo >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 17 23:13:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: chacha@matrixdm.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:27:02 -0700 Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: chacha@matrixdm.com (Chris Jones) I'm using the MOTU Midi Express XT (128 channels). Works good.. I'm using it with my E-6400, Emax, ESQ-1, Juno .... on my PC, running Cakewalk 7.0. Christopher. At 10:54 AM 17.9.1998 -0500, you wrote: >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > > >Attn Great Infected Ones :) > >I want to purchase a midi patchbay or one of those midi boxes/rack with multiple midi in's and midi out's... > >I'm looking to expand to at least 128 channels... > > >Does anyone have any recommendations for one that works well with the Virus? > >I would also be hooking up a DrumKat3.7 and an Emu E6400 sampler to it (as >well as other gear) but I was most concerned with compatibility with the Virus and DrumKat3.7.... > >any suggestions? > > >Mundo >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 18 01:22:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 01:26:16 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: Im workin on a STudio 4 and a Unitor 8. The Unitor is tMUST have interface. Ray >* From: dj radon > >I recently got an Mark of The Unicorn Midi Express XT, and it's pretty wonderful. It has a bunch of presets, including 8 user programmable that make it great for playing around even if your computer's turned off. I also hear good things about Emagic's Unitor8, but it's a bit scarce. > >Don't pay more than $330 for the Midi Express XT... that's what I paid at Guitar Center. > >-radon > > > >On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >>* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) >> >> >>Attn Great Infected Ones :) >> >>I want to purchase a midi patchbay or one of those midi boxes/rack with > >>multiple midi in's and midi out's... >> >>I'm looking to expand to at least 128 channels... >> >> >>Does anyone have any recommendations for one that works well with the Virus? >> >>I would also be hooking up a DrumKat3.7 and an Emu E6400 sampler to it >(as >>well as other gear) but I was most concerned with compatibility with the > >>Virus and DrumKat3.7.... >> >>any suggestions? >> >> >>Mundo >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 18 02:55:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:52:39 +0200 X-Accept-Language: nl-BE,de,fr-BE Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, I'm also an owner of a Unitor 8 and it's indeed the best midi interface money can buy !!! Greetings, Joeri Vankeirsbilck access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Raymund Beyer > >access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >Im workin on a STudio 4 and a Unitor 8. The Unitor is tMUST have interface. > >Ray > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 18 08:41:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: chacha@matrixdm.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:53:50 -0700 Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: chacha@matrixdm.com (Chris Jones) What'z the Unitor 8 have that the midi express xt dosn't? At 02:52 AM 18.9.1998 +0200, you wrote: >* From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck > >Hi, > >I'm also an owner of a Unitor 8 and it's indeed the best midi interface money can >buy !!! > >Greetings, >Joeri Vankeirsbilck > >access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > > >>* From: Raymund Beyer >> >>access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >> >>Im workin on a STudio 4 and a Unitor 8. The Unitor is tMUST have interface. >> >>Ray >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 18 12:50:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 13:11:21 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Raymund Beyer >What'z the Unitor 8 have that the midi express xt dosn't? > Unitors are the best and most reliable interfaces built since Atari times. For me the most important thing is that it has AMT (active Midi transmission) which improves the timing feelable. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 18 15:07:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 15:10:38 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Patches Uploaded * From: Raymund Beyer Hi people, i have just uploaded 32 Virus patches to my webspace. There will be coming more - especially from Nico Herz. Go to http://listen.to/ray and then sounds and stuff. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 18 19:15:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:21:33 -0700 Subject: Cubase VST * From: Michael Egar Hey, I'm about to buy Cubase VST and I've borrowed a copy of it from a friend to check out but I can't figure out how to dump the sysex into it. The online help doesn't seem to say much about it. Can you dump sysex into separate storage areas like you can in Cakewalk? How do you guys handle saving the synth's settings? Is VST the best sequencer to get for the Virus? Ta very much, Mike. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 18 21:04:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:02:57 EDT Subject: Re: Cubase VST * From: AcrystDM@aol.com In a message dated 9/18/98 10:17:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, access- list@tl36.teklab.com writes: >I'm about to buy Cubase VST and I've borrowed a copy of it from a >friend to check out but I can't figure out how to dump the sysex into it. The online help doesn't seem to say much about it. Can you dump sysex into separate storage areas like you can in Cakewalk? you only have to turn off the sysex record filter under Options-Midi Filter and initiate record on Cubase. You have to look into the Virus manual to see how to initiate the dump on the virus. Once you've done that, its just a file and you can store it whereever you specify. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 20 09:16:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:30:15 -0800 Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Doug Masla >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > > >Attn Great Infected Ones :) > >I want to purchase a midi patchbay or one of those midi boxes/rack with multiple midi in's and midi out's... > >I'm looking to expand to at least 128 channels... > > >Does anyone have any recommendations for one that works well with the Virus? > >I would also be hooking up a DrumKat3.7 and an Emu E6400 sampler to it (as >well as other gear) but I was most concerned with compatibility with the Virus and DrumKat3.7.... > >any suggestions? > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>Mundo I have used the Opcode studio 4 & 5LX with my Vurus as well as a JL cooper Synapse(stand alone midi patchbay/processor) with no problems. DM ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 20 23:25:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:29:23 +0200 Subject: Re: Inputs not working * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:01 AM +0200 on 21.09.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >sometimes, as we speak, they don't put anything in. Hm. Check you Input mode setting. Is it on Static? If so, make sure the filter lets enough signal through to hear anything. Send MIDI notes to the Virus if you want to use it in dynamic mode. If you still can't hear anything, try turning up the direct signal. If you can hear the signal then, everything is fine and all you need to do is find the right parameter. If you still can't hear the signal, check your connections...;) >Also the input leds don't show any signal alltough there was loads of it. in the end of the CTRL menu there is a setting for the LED mode. in OS 1.54 there are three settings: LFO, In and Auto. In LFO-mode, they show the LFO rate, in In mode they sort odf show you the input level. In Auto mode they show you the LFO rate until there is an external signal coming in which is automatically detected... >anyone who encountered the same shit ? actually only when I truly screwed up the program (closed the filter, switched the filter balance the wrong way etc...). with all these parameters involved, I would say it's pretty likely that everything is fine, you just need to hit the right button...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 20 23:06:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:01:07 +0100 Subject: Inputs not working * From: The Brothers Testas Hello everybody, virusses inputs are not working properly, sometimes, as we speak, they don't put anything in. Also the input leds don't show any signal alltough there was loads of it. anyone who encountered the same shit ? P.S: Cubase 3.5 on a powermac works good with opcode studio 64X midiinterface, sysex and the Virus bye David ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 09:28:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:23:51 +0200 Subject: Re: Inputs not working * From: !**picNIC**! At 23:01 20.09.1998 +0100, you wrote: >* From: The Brothers Testas Also the input leds don't show any signal alltough there was loads of it. >anyone who encountered the same shit ? HIHI infected crowdys! Hey, I think I know what u mean: I wondered why the note in the display that shows midi signals (on midi in) don't flash every time u press a key... it should show all midi notes on/off, and not only some... Though I never heard that m yvirus missed a note, he plays all, but don't show all midi data on the input by this small display note... Only a thought! SEEYA NIC ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 12:17:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:16:53 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Multi Prog. Change * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk This is probably a really dumb question but can anyone tell me how to get the Virus to switch Multis in response to a MIDI programme change message. The manual is a little short on information on this subject and just says that you need to send a programme change message on the global MIDI channel when in Multi mode. Tried this , it didn't work. Tried making sure there was no individual part set to receive on the same channel as the global channel, still no joy. How do you do it? Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 11:32:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:25:56 +0100 Subject: Re: Inputs not working * From: bRoThERs TeStAS Dear Canine, Thanks for helping me with my problem, I need to give you more info: * I'm using static mode for the moment. ( I have a novation bassstation with dynamic only ) * I tried everything and found a self occilating filter in input mode, so the filtersection is fine. *That's why I tried to draw your attention to the fact that the (audio)inputled's wich indeed have an * auto mode now(1.54) Don't show any signal , (and I tried it many times) in automode or inputmode. *And I made sure there really real was signal at the inputs(audionotmidi) and I mean sure witha S. * I downloaded 1.54 from 1.51 and thought now this problem will be solved . *But it's not, but maybe you can help me out ?? Please ?? P.S.: After a whole day on sometimes it flips on and then you see the leds and everything working. then it operates good for a couple of days and the day after gone again.. PS 2: Input mode works also when you route a part to the auxinput of another part !!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 15:10:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:05:40 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Multi Prog. Change * From: "W.Schneider" Hi Clarke, I've had and still have the same problem since I am using my Virus. I already posted a message to this list to get a solution, but there was no satisfying answer. Some other users posted their complaints on the wishlist/guestbook of K9's Virus page, but got only RTFMs as a reply. I am a little :-(( bit disappointed that ACCESS does not reply to that problem, as I don't know if this is a problem with only my ( and of course Your Virus) or if this is still a feature which is not available in the current OS. I am posting this message on the list to get a new discussion started about existing problems, bugs or whatever. If anyone tells me to RTFM, I must say, that I'm neither drunk nor stupid. So let's all together find out what's going on with that old "Multi-Program-Change" problem. keep on rocking!!!! Willi Schneider (JESTER'S TEARS) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4542/ -----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht----- Von: access-list@tl36.teklab.com An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Montag, 21. September 1998 12:24 Betreff: Multi Prog. Change >* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > >This is probably a really dumb question but can anyone tell me how to get the Virus to switch Multis in response to a MIDI programme change message. The manual is a little short on information on this subject and just says that you need to send a programme change message on the global MIDI channel when in Multi mode. Tried this , it didn't work. Tried making sure there was no individual part set to receive on the same channel as the global channel, still no joy. How do you do it? > >Steve (n-tropic) > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 16:20:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 98 16:23:46 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Multi Prog. Change * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: Hi, when I use the Multi-Single mode and send a program change on the midi channel I want to change the sound on, it changes as desired. Did you try this? Ray >* From: "W.Schneider" > >Hi Clarke, >I've had and still have the same problem since I am using my Virus. I already posted a message to this list to get a solution, but there was no satisfying answer. >Some other users posted their complaints on the wishlist/guestbook of K9's Virus page, but got only RTFMs as a reply. I am a little :-(( bit disappointed that ACCESS does not reply to that problem, as I don't know if this is a problem with only my ( and of course Your Virus) or if this is still a feature which is not available in the current OS. >I am posting this message on the list to get a new discussion started about existing problems, bugs or whatever. >If anyone tells me to RTFM, I must say, that I'm neither drunk nor stupid. So let's all together find out what's going on with that old "Multi-Program-Change" problem. > >keep on rocking!!!! > >Willi Schneider (JESTER'S TEARS) >http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4542/ -----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: access-list@tl36.teklab.com An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Montag, 21. September 1998 12:24 >Betreff: Multi Prog. Change > > >>* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >> >>This is probably a really dumb question but can anyone tell me how to get the Virus to switch Multis in response to a MIDI programme change message. The manual is a little short on information on this subject and just says that you need to send a programme change message on the global MIDI channel when in Multi mode. Tried this , it didn't work. Tried making sure there was no individual part set to receive on the same channel as the global channel, still no joy. How do you do it? >> >>Steve (n-tropic) >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 18:53:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:51:56 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Multi Prog. Change * From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Mei=DFner?=" Hi Steve (n-tropic), Willi Schneider (JESTER'S TEARS)... To change whole MULTI-Programs with PROGRAM-CHANGE message via MIDI is not possible yet (V1.54). But it's coming soon (V1.55): Therefore in MULTI-Mode in Ctrl-Menu a new Parameter will be avaible, with which you can enable receiption of PROG-CHG message on global channel, that changes whole MULTI-Program. It is ensured that all sequencing guys will have no problems with PROG-CHG-Messages on global channel in their seq-files while you can disable that new feature ! Joerg Meissner ACCESS ---------- >Von: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Betreff: Multi Prog. Change >Datum: Montag, 21. September 1998 12:16 > >* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > > This is probably a really dumb question but can anyone tell me how to get the Virus to switch Multis in response to a MIDI programme change message. The manual is a little short on information on this subject and just says that you need to send a programme change message on the global MIDI channel when in Multi mode. Tried this , it didn't work. Tried making sure there was no individual part set to receive on the same channel as the global channel, still no joy. How do you do it? > >Steve (n-tropic) > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 23:10:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:05:34 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Multi Prog. Change * From: "W.Schneider" Hallo Ray and Joerg, I think Your answers are just what many of us wanted to hear. It is no problem to change the voices in MULTI-SINGLE mode (thanx Ray). And it is good to hear, that MULTI-PROGRAM-CHANGE will be possible with OS 1.55. Thanx a lot for the fast replies. keep on rocking!!!! Willi Schneider (JESTER'S TEARS) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4542/ -----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht----- Von: access-list@tl36.teklab.com An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Montag, 21. September 1998 20:17 Betreff: Re: Multi Prog. Change >* From: Raymund Beyer > >access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >Hi, > >when I use the Multi-Single mode and send a program change on the midi channel I want to change the sound on, it changes as desired. > >Did you try this? > >Ray >> >>Willi Schneider (JESTER'S TEARS) >>http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4542/ >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 21 23:13:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.de Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:13:38 +0200 Subject: Multi behaviour * From: Martin Zuther Hey crowd! I had some small problem lately - I was using the virus in MULTI-mode with Logic for a couple of days. Mostly everything went right, but sometimes after I started the whole bunch of equipment the bassline on channel 2 didn't play at all except for the note-symbols on the display. The sound on channel 2 is located in bank A, so it has nothing to do with the small bug that appears on bank B-sounds. The problem was solved when I changed to a different MULTI, played some notes on channel 2 and then returned to the old MULTI. Someone out there had the same problem? Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de http://listen.to/mzuther ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 22 18:20:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:23:21 +0000 Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: monokrom@sirius.com Why? access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck > >Hi, > >I'm also an owner of a Unitor 8 and it's indeed the best midi interface money can buy !!! > >Greetings, >Joeri Vankeirsbilck > >access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >>* From: Raymund Beyer >> >>access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >> >>Im workin on a STudio 4 and a Unitor 8. The Unitor is tMUST have interface. >> >>Ray >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 22 15:39:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:47:46 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Multi Prog. Change * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk I'm glad to discover that it wasn't just me being stupid that resulted in my ability to change multis over MIDI and it's good news that this is being sorted in V1.55. Any idea when we can expect V1.55? A while back someone was asking about the possibility of dumping all singles in a multi along with all the multi's parameters all in one action. Access replied that this "arrangement dump" would be forthcoming in a futre OS version. This would be a truely great feature, is this also coming in V1.55? Incidentally, a little tip which will be obvious to some but may not have been discovered by others. If you are after a nice radical flanger effect but have found the Virus' chorus a little too smooth and rich sounding however you jiggle the parameters try the following. Route the part to be flanged to a single output (eg. out2 L rather than out2 L+R.) and pan that output to centre on your desk. The effect will now be in mono but will sound much more edgy and focussed. The chorus LFO's modulation is applied in equal but oposite amounts to a L&R output pair. When you listen in stereo to a flanger type effect the emphasised harmonics ascend on the left channel whilst descending on the right which, whilst it gives a nice stereo effect can sound a little tame. Doing the above means you only hear one side of the stereo effect. I have managed to get some ripping yet controllable flanging like this. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 22 17:54:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:53:59 +0100 Subject: Back to off topic * From: Anders Palmqvist Back to the discussions about synthesizers, presets, commersial soundmaking and stuff a couple of weeks ago. Well, not back to the actual discussion, but... In the heat of the mudthrowing at that time a couple of synthgurus names were flashing by. Carlos, something? And then there was some reply about some even sharper guy. The thing is that I´ve accidentally lost that information. Again? And with recordcompany and number it would be even nicer. Anders. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 03:08:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:06:49 +0200 X-Accept-Language: nl-BE,de,fr-BE Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, Because of several reasons: 1. Best midi timing ever if you use it together with Emagic Logic !!! Now you can finally get a groove that's tight ! REAL tight ! 2. Lots of sync possibilities. 3. "Upgradeability": just send a midi file to the Unitor and it's updated. 4. You can have up to 256 midi ports on Mac and 128 on PC if you buy more of them !!! (and with exactly that same TIGHT midi transmittion !!!) 5. Activity leds and 1 midi in/out on the front + reset switch on the front. 6. Because that blue front looks so good... ;-))) Go check it out at your dealer ! Link it to a Virus !!! Ciao, Joeri >Why? > >>I'm also an owner of a Unitor 8 and it's indeed the best midi interface money can buy !!! >>> >>>Im workin on a STudio 4 and a Unitor 8. The Unitor is tMUST have interface. > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 03:32:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: chacha@matrixdm.com Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:46:18 -0700 Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: chacha@matrixdm.com (Chris Jones) Sounds pretty much like the MOTU. Not sure if you can run two of them together on a pc or not. >Because of several reasons: >1. Best midi timing ever if you use it together with Emagic Logic !!! Now you can >finally get a groove that's tight ! REAL tight ! 2. Lots of sync possibilities. >3. "Upgradeability": just send a midi file to the Unitor and it's updated. 4. You can have up to 256 midi ports on Mac and 128 on PC if you buy more of them !!! >(and with exactly that same TIGHT midi transmittion !!!) 5. Activity leds and 1 midi in/out on the front + reset switch on the front. 6. Because that blue front looks so good... ;-))) > >Go check it out at your dealer ! Link it to a Virus !!! > >Ciao, >Joeri > > > >>Why? >> >>>I'm also an owner of a Unitor 8 and it's indeed the best midi interface money can >>>buy !!! >>>> >>>>Im workin on a STudio 4 and a Unitor 8. The Unitor is tMUST have interface. >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 04:33:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:32:00 EDT Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Elhardt@aol.com << In the heat of the mudthrowing at that time a couple of synthgurus names were flashing by. Carlos, something? And then there was some reply about some even sharper guy. The thing is that I¥ve accidentally lost that information. Again? And with recordcompany and number it would be even nicer. >> Walter (Now Wendy) Carlos was one. I can't remember who another one might have been. I mentioned records like "Well Tempered Synthesizer", "Switched on Bach II", "Walter Carlos By Request" as some of the best. Another guy mentioned Carlos' synth piece called "Timesteps" from his album "Walter Carlos' Clockwork Orange". Problem is these never made it to CD, but Carlos has gotten the rights back for them and is in the process of releasing them again. What is still available from the Moog Modular days of Carlos is "Switched on Bach" (the 1968 record that started it all) and "Switched on Brandenburgs". Almost all Carlos' later stuff is digital, and not representative of Carlos' analog synth style. Carlos and Tomita were the two best synthesists around, so there is no sharper guy. Tomita's middle albums like "Kosmos", "Firebird", "The Planets" are examples of some his best work. After those two, one of the few who still stands out is Larry Fast under the name Synergy. I think his earliest records like "Sequencer" followed by "Realizations for Rock Orchestra" are his best based on the fact that some of his later stuff was getting somewhat dark, discordant and depressing. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 07:51:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:52:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Ronald Pieket access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Elhardt@aol.com ><< In the heat of the mudthrowing at that time a couple of synthgurus names were flashing by. Carlos, something? And then there was some reply about some even sharper guy. The thing is that I´ve accidentally lost that information. Again? And with recordcompany and number it would be even nicer. >> "Wendy Carlos' Clockwork Orange" is being rereleased later this year. Robert Moog developed his modular synth in collaboration with her. The track 'Timesteps' is one of the earliest original pieces for Moog modular, and (IMHO) a monumental and historic achievement. Don't forget, when listening to Wendy's recordings from those days, that synthesizers were monophonic: all polyphony was done by painstakingly layering recordings. If you want to learn from the masters, listen to the early Klaus Schulze. 'Body Love', 'Moondawn', 'Timewind', 'Mirage'. His Moog modular is prominent on his album 'X'. A pioneer of electronic space music. Also Morton Subotnik, composing with the Buchla synth. 'Touch', and 'Silver Apples of the Moon'. Very different from the other names mentioned here. And of course Kraftwerk, and the Yellow Magic Orchestra. - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 07:44:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:28:50 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Guenther Albrecht Do not forget THE OTHERS like Chris & Cosey (formerly half of TG) that made a lot of things acceptable (Releases: Heartbeat, Songs of Love and Lust, Exotica, Core...) Pere Ubu/David Thomas (use EML synth on nearly every album, best for me is Monster walks the winter lake, a true classic) The Residents (Eskimo, Duck Stab) ya know that Foetus (Jim Thirlwell) used mostly samplers on his albums (tip: Nail or Hole) & played everything himself? my real favorite is, of course, Sun Ra. he did that vacuum cleaner sound long ago in the sixties... regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 11:13:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: edetrez@nordmail.nordnet.fr Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:33:44 +0200 Subject: Re : Re: Back to off topic * From: Eric DETREZ >* From: Elhardt@aol.com >Carlos and Tomita were the two >best synthesists around, so there is no sharper guy. Didn't you ever heard K. Schulze ? I'm listening to his 25 CD "Jubilee Edition" and that's real music with real synths. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 11:13:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: edetrez@nordmail.nordnet.fr Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:35:25 +0200 Subject: Re : Re: Back to off topic * From: Eric DETREZ >* From: Ronald Pieket >If you want to learn from the masters, listen to the early Klaus Schulze. 'Body Love', 'Moondawn', 'Timewind', 'Mirage'. His Moog modular is prominent on his album 'X'. A pioneer of electronic space music. And now he is still using modular moog ans EMS AKS ... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 10:41:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:41:29 +0200 Subject: Re: Back to off topic (K.S.) * From: !**picNIC**! At 09:35 23.09.1998 +0200, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>If you want to learn from the masters, listen to the early Klaus Schulze. 'Body Love', 'Moondawn', 'Timewind', 'Mirage'. His Moog modular is prominent on his album 'X'. A pioneer of electronic space music. .. Blackdance, Picture Music, Dune (which I don't like), ... ;)) sorry for this kind'a I LIKE FISH AND SHIPS topic... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 10:56:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:00:29 +0200 Subject: Moog (was Re: Back to off topic) * From: Kai Niggemann For all those of you interested in Moogs (mini that is) there is a pretty good feature in Future Music about the new MiniMoog, the 1998 MIDI'd and modernized version. It looks very nice and the sound examples on the CD are neato. Very inspiring, must try to rebuild those sounds on the Virus. -- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 12:22:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:22:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: "Howard Scarr" >And now he is still using modular moog and EMS AKS ... Luvverly. Bet you he's not using the EMS Synthi 100 any more, though... the most unreliable and un-sensible set of modules of all time. BTW: If anyone here is interested in the EMS story, check out part of Graham Hinton's site (which is also the official EMS site) at www.hinton.demon.co.uk/ems/ems.html You'll also find some pics of me ("Gwyo Zepix") with my mid-70s, all-EMS band "Zorch" strutting our stuff (well, sitting down actually). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 15:29:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:27:22 +0200 X-Accept-Language: nl-BE,de,fr-BE Subject: Re: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, >Sounds pretty much like the MOTU. Not sure if you can run two of them together on a pc or not. Nononono ! It's better ! Way better ! Can the MOTU does this: 1. Midi timing that is 0.7 ms at max when you send heavy loads of midi to all 8 channels of 8 Unitors that are stacked to eachother ? 2. can you cascade 8 MOTU's on PC and 16 on Mac ? Unitor can ! 3. What sync possibilities does the Motu have ? Look at http://www.emagic.de for info on the Unitor 8. 4. Can the Motu be updated and upgraded by sending a midi file to it ? I don't have to make any conclusions, do I ? :-) Greetings, Joeri ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 16:41:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:39:44 +0200 Subject: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Boehm Thomas-Lars Hi there ! What about Opcode 64X / 128X and PCs ? Any comments on these interfaces ? Regards, TL-Bee ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 17:04:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:03:24 +0200 Subject: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Peter Govaers >What about Opcode 64X / 128X and PCs ? Any comments on these interfaces ? I contacted Opcode. There are drivers for Win95/98. Not for NT. The Control Software however is only for Mac. P ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 18:55:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:54:10 EDT Subject: Re: Re : Re: Back to off topic * From: CKe9644719@aol.com << * From: Eric DETREZ >* From: Ronald Pieket >If you want to learn from the masters, listen to the early Klaus Schulze. 'Body Love', 'Moondawn', 'Timewind', 'Mirage'. His Moog modular is prominent on his album 'X'. A pioneer of electronic space music. And now he is still using modular moog ans EMS AKS ... >> And actually he has much fun with the Virus (for his next album). Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 23 21:51:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: edetrez@nordmail.nordnet.fr Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:50:29 +0200 Subject: Re : Re: Re : Re: Back to off topic * From: Eric DETREZ Le 23/09/98 access-list@tl36.teklab.com écrivit : >* From: CKe9644719@aol.com >And actually he has much fun with the Virus (for his next album). (about K. Schulze) Is it a joke ? If it isn't, I wait with a lot of hope what K.S. could do with such a gear. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 00:17:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:15:51 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: Back to off topic * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:50:29 +0200, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >If it isn't, I wait with a lot of hope what K.S. could do with such a gear. The same as he does with all gear - ie. noodles around for a while and then releases the results.... ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 01:45:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:45:06 EDT Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Elhardt@aol.com ------------------------- >* From: Elhardt@aol.com <--- not from me. << In the heat of the mudthrowing at that time a couple of synthgurus names were flashing by. Carlos, something? And ect...... The above message was not from me (Elhardt), it was from: Anders Palmqvist . I go through all the trouble of a detailed explaination of Walter/Wendy Carlos and then get mistaken as the one who asked the question. -------------------------- >* From: Elhardt@aol.com >Carlos and Tomita were the two best synthesists around, so there is "no sharper guy". < <> I bought one K. Schulze record a long time ago, and it was not worth listening to. It was repetitive, went nowhere musically, and sounded like half the other synth records I bought and got rid of. It was however not one of his first. I was always passing by his earlier stuff like "Body Love" and others, but the guy looked so creepy, I figured it was just going to be a bunch of obnoxious drugged out music. After getting that later album and hearing one or two of his works on a collection CD, I was not encouraged to go further with him. I do realize that most musicians run out of ideas after the first few albums, so I kind of regret not picking up one of his earlier ones. However, when one of his records is so bland and lousy, it is hard to imagine that his others are orders of magnitude better. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Oct 17 03:07:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: fabio.todeschini@reflex.at Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 03:04:46 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: OS 1.55: WOW This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BDE768.164E7EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i don't mail often to the list (if i ever have - i'm one of those silent listeners), but i just read through the new features of OS 1.55 (haven't upgraded so far) and i must say; having read all the feature-wishes and bug-reports in this mailing-list in the past, and now finding a great amount of the wished/mentioned/reported - fixed/implemented in the new OS, - i must really honor your work ACCESS. i don't know how far other manufacturers support their customers - but i know that you do quite well now, enough of that... 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 10:12:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:11:53 +0200 Encoding: 9 TEXT, 47 UUENCODE Subject: AW: Back to off topic * From: Rudolf Lindner I thought, that I am an old fart, but this thread mentiones records from the stone age. Amazing. How's that, folks: Popul Vuh, Affenstunde, uses ancient moog system. Silver apples, first album, does not even use synthis but sine generators! So, back to present, creating sounds, never heard before........ Rudolf ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:WINMAIL.DAT 4 (????/----) (00009A22)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 09:48:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:47:27 +0200 Cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 152e" Subject: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com I have received and read Your message regarding: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions This receipt was automatically generated upon Your request If you need more information about the Atlas Copco Group, take a look at our Web Site: http://www.atlascopco.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 10:01:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:00:51 +0200 X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 152e" Subject: Future music * From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com In the latest edition of Future Music (UK synth & gear mag.) the Virus is at last reviewed. it has got a not very high score for Future Music : 75% the article is overall positive and most of the things they weren't so happy about are going to be changed with the next operating system (but Future Music didn't know i suppose), so maybe if they had waited for another month with this review, the Virus probably would have gained a higher score... greetings, Steven If you need more information about the Atlas Copco Group, take a look at our Web Site: http://www.atlascopco.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 11:11:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:10:54 +0200 Subject: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Boehm Thomas-Lars Hi Peter ! Are you working with an Opcode Interface ? Can anybody tell me something about timing and reliability ? Thanx. TL-Bee >* From: Peter Govaers > >>What about Opcode 64X / 128X and PCs ? Any comments on these interfaces ? > >I contacted Opcode. There are drivers for Win95/98. Not for NT. The Control Software however is only for Mac. > >P > >********** >********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 11:32:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:31:39 +0200 Subject: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Peter Govaers >Are you working with an Opcode Interface ? No, sorry. I was looking for a new interface. I decided not to buy the 128X since they don't have the Control Software available for Windows ! I will go for the Unitor8. P ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 13:34:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 98 13:38:40 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Boehm Thomas-Lars > >Hi Peter ! > >Are you working with an Opcode Interface ? Can anybody tell me something about timing and reliability ? Hi, Opcode Studio 4 and Logic and Mac is cool. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 13:34:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:33:12 +0200 Cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 152e" Subject: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions * From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com I have received and read Your message regarding: RE: muti midi in out box suggestions This receipt was automatically generated upon Your request If you need more information about the Atlas Copco Group, take a look at our Web Site: http://www.atlascopco.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 01:22:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:00:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Future music * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) 75% ?????? That seems hard to believe considering the scores that mag gave to some pieces of gear with very limited specs. The US Keyboard mag reviewed it this month as well. They seemed to rate it pretty high. I already have mine so its all good. Mundo ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Future music Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 9/24/98 11:00 AM * From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com In the latest edition of Future Music (UK synth & gear mag.) the Virus is at last reviewed. it has got a not very high score for Future Music : 75% the article is overall positive and most of the things they weren't so happy about are going to be changed with the next operating system (but Future Music didn't know i suppose), so maybe if they had waited for another month with this review, the Virus probably would have gained a higher score... greetings, Steven If you need more information about the Atlas Copco Group, take a look at our Web Site: http://www.atlascopco.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 17:21:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:18:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >People are constantly looking for new types of music to take drugs to and electronic music has been no exception - quite the reverse. Some people on this list seem to have a real down on drugs which is not very enlightened and a rather depressing in this day and age. This is the Access Virus mailing list. Drug discussions have no place here. >If that doesn't start a good row then you're all asleep! > Exactly. Please folks, lets not get diverged off into drug/anti-drug wars at this point on the list... thanks. (List Administrator) j. -- Jay Vaughan | TekLab jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Custom software development for the creative community. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 23:14:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:00:41 +0200 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:58 AM +0200 on 25.09.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Remember to live up to the principle "Think Different" you have to do more than type it at the end of your e-mails. haha, that was meant for me, wasn't it? Well, let me tell you something about drugs. In the town where I live a friend of mine and I founded the local branch of a Berlin based organization called "Eve & Rave" that teaches a safer use philosophy for drug use. We are working mainly in the local rave scene, passing out flyers, giving first aid, providing drinks, candy, chewing gum etc for people who need it, do "talk-downs", and generally have fun together with the people at the party. We also do presentations for other people and organizations involved in drug work, we even cooperate with the police (no we don't turn in drug dealers, we just tell them about our work so they trust us and know why we are doing it). our future goal is to establish a system for drugchecking as it is done in the netherlands. I am sure the dutch people on this list have heard of the safer House campaign. Ok, sorry for this off topic mail, I just felt I should reply to the "Think Different" part. Because I do. PS: Re music and drugs: my favortie title for a drug related album is: "Taking drugs to make music to take drugs to" by Spacemen 3...;)) (Not that I would listen to them, though...) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 01:27:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:37:20 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Future music * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net who cares about future "general midi" music :) listen to it on the CD or go hear one \if you like it, save and buy it, if not get a super nova or something i give mine 2 thumbs up!! your opinion is what matters weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > >75% ?????? > >That seems hard to believe considering the scores that mag gave to some pieces of gear with very limited specs. > >The US Keyboard mag reviewed it this month as well. They seemed to rate it pretty high. > >I already have mine so its all good. > >Mundo > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Future music >Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 9/24/98 11:00 AM > >* From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com > >In the latest edition of Future Music (UK synth & gear mag.) the Virus is at last reviewed. > >it has got a not very high score for Future Music : 75% > >the article is overall positive and most of the things they weren't so happy about are going to be changed with the next operating system (but Future Music didn't know i suppose), so maybe if they had waited for another month with this review, the Virus probably would have gained a higher score... > >greetings, > >Steven > > >If you need more information about >the Atlas Copco Group, take a look >at our Web Site: >http://www.atlascopco.com > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Sep 24 15:44:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 2:58:03 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Yes Klaus Shulze is a boring old fart but why should "drugged out" music be necessarily obnoxious. People are constantly looking for new types of music to take drugs to and electronic music has been no exception - quite the reverse. Some people on this list seem to have a real down on drugs which is not very enlightened and a rather depressing in this day and age. I do not see drugs as a good or bad thing in themselves, it's what people do with them that counts. If you want to check out some really top class synthesizer music which happens to be very druggy check out the British band Ozric Tentacles or the early work of their offshoot Eat Static (album called abducted is highly reccomended.) This music is *totally* spaced out but beautifully put together. Real care and attention to detail and structure. None of your endless, directionless melodyless boring Krautsynth rubbish a la Tangerine Dream. Remember to live up to the principle "Think Different" you have to do more than type it at the end of your e-mails. If that doesn't start a good row then you're all asleep! Piot forever! Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 05:29:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:23:56 EDT Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Elhardt@aol.com << Yes Klaus Shulze is a boring old fart but why should "drugged out" music be necessarily obnoxious. >> "Drugged out" music may not be obnoxious. I was trying to imply music I thought that would be more like a bunch of loud, distorted, screaming, hard rock. I used to buy so many synth records, and so many were junk, I had to make some educated guesses as to what to buy based on reading and looking at the record jacket. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 05:55:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:57:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Future music * From: Ronald Pieket >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) 75% ?????? >That seems hard to believe considering the scores that mag gave to some pieces of gear with very limited specs. Nothing to do with advertising pounds, I hope? - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 06:04:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:03:03 EDT Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Elhardt@aol.com 2nd try: << Yes Klaus Shulze is a boring old fart but why should "drugged out" music be necessarily obnoxious. >> "Drugged out" music may not be obnoxious. I was trying to imply music I thought that would be more like a bunch of loud, distorted, screaming, hard rock. I used to buy so many synth records, and so many were junk, I had to make some educated guesses as to what to buy based on reading and looking at the record jacket. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 11:07:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:12:02 +0000 Organization: Institute of Immunology Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Meister I don´t need drugs for hearing music, cause the music is my favorite drug. I just switch of the light , listen and enjoy the journey. Most drugs are already in your body. You just have to activate them, and in this case your body knows what´s going on. Okay, sorry, has nothing to do with the virus, but somehow the virus is a drug, isn´t it ? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 15:31:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:27:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Future music * From: CrAzYjOn Future Music give evrything good review, of a very limited scope....thats why I quit reading that magazine........it just so...........cheesy and lame, the review that was in Keyboard was really very good.....kinda helpful too...... Prepareing to relocate CrAzYjOn access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Ronald Pieket > >>* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) 75% ?????? >>That seems hard to believe considering the scores that mag gave to some pieces of gear with very limited specs. > >Nothing to do with advertising pounds, I hope? > >- Ronald. >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: T.Kremer@t-online.de Fri Sep 25 16:02:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:03:11 +0200 To: Kai Niggemann Subject: Re: Question about Access Virus X-Sender: 02271798650-0002@t-online.de From: T.Kremer@t-online.de (scooba) >Well, problem is: are you talking about novation or TSi, their german distributor? if it is TSi, they are the distributor fo the virus as well, so you are stuck with them either way. I have never had any trouble with TSi before, all to the contrary, they have been extremely helpful whenever I needed them. Then again I run the Virus site...;) Well, i am indeed talking 'bout TSI but didn't think about that the virus is also distributed by them :) hehe ... I think I'll get in contact with tsi directly and not via my music store. Maybe they can help me out... >no problem. I am certainly very very satisfied with my Virus....;)) I will go for it then :) Thanks for your help, dude! (.. eMAiL dR0PPEd bY ..) (....... sCOOBa .......)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 16:13:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [194.205.108.13] Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:13:05 PDT Subject: Re: Sub Oscillations * From: "Pierre Zeeman" Bil >Hi Pierre, >I haven't had any problems at all using multi mode, so far it seems to be >completely stable. > >Bilbo Bagginz > Might just be my crap programming but it only seems to happen when there are a lot of parts going at once - I thought it was note stealing but that doesn't seem to be the case (unless my arithmetic is crap too). Cheers Pierre Zeeman ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 26 02:24:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:21:21 -0500 Subject: Re[2]: Future music * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) Hey John, Since you are moving...just leave your Virus in Dallas with me. :) Its all good. I'll take good care of it. You need to move as few goods as possible to save space, time, energy and all that stuff.. :) I wouldn't mind a second one. ;) Big up the Crazy Jon and the mighty RTFM! Mundo WikidDrama ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Future music Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 9/25/98 8:27 AM * From: CrAzYjOn Future Music give evrything good review, of a very limited scope....thats why I quit reading that magazine........it just so...........cheesy and lame, the review that was in Keyboard was really very good.....kinda helpful too...... Prepareing to relocate CrAzYjOn access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Ronald Pieket > >>* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) 75% ?????? >>That seems hard to believe considering the scores that mag gave to some pieces of gear with very limited specs. > >Nothing to do with advertising pounds, I hope? > >- Ronald. >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 19:55:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:56:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Back to off topic * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > >Are you all asleep then? Well, just came back from a holiday... >Actually I was hoping my blatently anti German and anti Tangerine dream comments might be what really set people off:) In truth some of my best friends are German and the best shit kicking techno in the world comes out of that country (not to mention the best shit kicking techno instruments!) Hmm, Tangerine Dream was god.....once.....in the 70s...... Nowadays not. If it weren't for those guys and Kraftwerk you weren't listening to (crappy) house music. Although there are a few techno artists that are interesting. (yes, I even buy it :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 22:37:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:18:40 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 11:12 AM 9/25/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From: Meister I don´t need drugs for hearing music, cause the music is my favorite drug. I just switch of the light , listen and enjoy the journey. I used to do hardcore drugs and wig out to electronic music. This was in the days when the rest of the world was enjoying mainstream bands like AC/DC or Van Halen or whatever. After having had a very bad experience with drugs (flatline), I stopped using them entirely. I still found myself wanting to experience the same things, however, the 'journey' or the 'trip' that I used to. And so I really put myself into shape as a musician, and found that the best trip one could possibly have is when you're totally straight, clean, etc. and you're sitting in your studio at 4am in the morning having done about 4 hours of solid creative writing, and you listen to the track, and you've got it to where you don't feel anything is missing, or you don't think anything else needs tweaking, and so you just sit there and listen, and man, what a journey that is. There is no better experience in life than having a straight trip. And of course, the Virus is my companion in that particular journey. j. -- Jay Vaughan | TekLab jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Custom software development for the creative community. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 22:37:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:20:56 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > > Since the discussion of the subject of drugs is what you object to then I have to remind you that the music we make with our Virii (or whatever) does not exist in a glass box and has a social and cultural context. The context of (most?) electronic music is and always has included drug taking. To pretend otherwise is to stick your head in the sand. Okay, I'm not going to belabour the point here, fair enough. I just don't want TekLab lists being used for massive ethical/moral/pseudoscientific discussions about drugs. I'm anti-drug, you see, and I have not patience for the dialectic materialist perspective that inevitably results from drug war threads. But you have a good point, so I won't 'moderate' this thread. People, please remember though that it'd be nice if the Access Virus was somehow brought up in this whole drug thread, if it continues... j. -- Jay Vaughan | TekLab jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Custom software development for the creative community. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 26 01:47:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:46:40 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: b-La-roc  Jay Vaughan wrote: After having had a very bad experience with drugs (flatline), I stopped using them entirely. So .. what synth is used in those hospital heart rate machines ... ? beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep !      __/\ ___/\ __________________________________ \/ \/ -b- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Sep 26 01:53:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:52:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 04:46 PM 9/25/98 -0700, you wrote: >>>> * From: b-La-roc Jay Vaughan wrote: After having had a very bad experience with drugs (flatline), I stopped using them entirely. So .. what synth is used in those hospital heart rate machines ... ? beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep ! __/\ ___/\ __________________________________ \/ \/ -b- ********** ********** <<<< Dunno, but I'm sure we could do one on the Virus pretty easy... j. -- Jay Vaughan | TekLab jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Custom software development for the creative community. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 15:58:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 3:03:28 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-to: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:12:02 +0000 Organization: Institute of Immunology Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: Meister I don't need drugs for hearing music, cause the music is my favorite drug. I just switch of the light , listen and enjoy the journey. Most drugs are already in your body. You just have to activate them, and in this case your body knows what's going on. and that's cool too.................. Steve. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 16:07:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 3:12:34 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-to: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:18:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >If that doesn't start a good row then you're all asleep! > Exactly. (List Administrator) j. Are you all asleep then? Actually I was hoping my blatently anti German and anti Tangerine dream comments might be what really set people off:) In truth some of my best friends are German and the best shit kicking techno in the world comes out of that country (not to mention the best shit kicking techno instruments!) Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 10:42:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 8:50:03 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk You're cool K9 and it sounds like you're doing good works out there in Deutchland. I have been involved in a similar project in my local area called Drugs And Narcotics Education and Counselling (D.A.N.C.E) . Similarly this is aimed at promoting the safe use of drugs through the provision of information at Raves etc. in order that people can make *informed* decisions and choices. Of course an informed decision might include not doing an E in a given set of circumstances but this is very different from the government line that doing an E is probably going to kill you. Sorry about the "think different" dig, this was a bit out of order but I just wanted to stir up some interesting discussion which seems to be happening! Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Sep 25 10:59:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 9:08:10 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-to: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:18:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Back to off topic * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan This is the Access Virus mailing list. Drug discussions have no place here. >If that doesn't start a good row then you're all asleep! > Exactly. Please folks, lets not get diverged off into drug/anti-drug wars at this point on the list... thanks. (List Administrator) j. Hi Jay, I've got to admit that my comments were off topic but it no more so than the comments that set me off. Since the discussion of the subject of drugs is what you object to then I have to remind you that the music we make with our Virii (or whatever) does not exist in a glass box and has a social and cultural context. The context of (most?) electronic music is and always has included drug taking. To pretend otherwise is to stick your head in the sand. I'm not suggesting we should stop talking about the Virus and get into a big pro/anti debate but I should like to claim the right to be able to address the subject without being flamed or unsubscribed. We have had some very long discussions that have been way off topic but well worth it none the less. What is so different about this one? Thanks for all your good work in keeping this list going - and I I do appreciate that administrating it must feel a bit of a difficult responsibility when matters like this arise. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Sep 27 20:41:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:38:51 EDT Subject: No Subject * From: CikiraMidi@aol.com unsubscribe cikiramidi@aol.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 28 10:04:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:53:29 +0100 Subject: Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: Back to off topic * From: !**picNIC**! At 21:50 23.09.1998 +0200, you wrote: >* From: Eric DETREZ > >Le 23/09/98 access-list@tl36.teklab.com écrivit : > >>* From: CKe9644719@aol.com >>And actually he has much fun with the Virus (for his next album). >(about K. Schulze) >Is it a joke ? >If it isn't, I wait with a lot of hope what K.S. could do with such a gear. Look at http://www.klaus-schulze.com/ and then at his equip... he has 2 Virussez! So he will have something done on them, if he haven't done it already! SEEYAINFECTIOUSONES! NIC ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 28 17:53:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:01:58 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Strange happenings! * From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Has anyone had this one happen to them? As the Virus comes from the factory most of the Multis have all their parts filled with Single A00. Last night I wrote over single A00 with a new sound but instead of all parts of all (as yet untampered with) Multis being filled with the new sound some were filled with the old (deleted) sound and some the new - both showing the patch number A00. BTW my deleted A00 patch was set up as an external input. Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 28 18:04:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:01:53 -0700 Subject: Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: Back to off topic * From: Ronald Pieket >* From: !**picNIC**! > >Look at http://www.klaus-schulze.com/ and then at his equip... he has 2 Virussez! So he will have something done on them, if he haven't done it already! He also has 5 (five) Polymorphs, and the thing is not even out yet! If the demo tracks on the Quasimidi home page are anything to go by, I can't wait to get my hands on one of those babies! - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Sep 28 19:59:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: edetrez@nordmail.nordnet.fr Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:40:29 +0200 Subject: Klaus Schulze * From: Eric DETREZ >* From: Ronald Pieket >He also has 5 (five) Polymorphs, and the thing is not even out yet! If the demo tracks on the Quasimidi home page are anything to go by, I can't wait to get my hands on one of those babies! I also saw this. Did K.S. made an 'audit' with Quasimidi ? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 29 14:38:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:35:41 EDT Subject: Re: Strange happenings! * From: CKe9644719@aol.com Hi, This is normal behavior. When you call a multi, the containing singles are copied into the 16 single-edit-buffers (the parts). These parts can be edited individually without effects to the other parts. When you save one of these parts back to the single bank, this doen't involve that the other part-buffers are updated even in the case that they point to the same single. Would this be an advantage in some case? Thanks for your support Christoph Kemper ACCESS << Has anyone had this one happen to them? As the Virus comes from the factory most of the Multis have all their parts filled with Single A00. Last night I wrote over single A00 with a new sound but instead of all parts of all (as yet untampered with) Multis being filled with the new sound some were filled with the old (deleted) sound and some the new - both showing the patch number A00. BTW my deleted A00 patch was set up as an external input. >> ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Sep 29 21:00:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 21:03:25 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Strange happenings! * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: CKe9644719@aol.com > >Hi, > >This is normal behavior. When you call a multi, the containing singles are copied into the 16 single-edit-buffers (the parts). These parts can be edited individually without effects to the other parts. Hi Christoph, can those part-buffers be requested by a midi command? Would be useful for an editor. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ brainray@real-net.de http://listen.to/ray |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 30 01:49:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:42:49 EDT Subject: Re: Strange happenings! * From: CKe9644719@aol.com << Hi Christoph, can those part-buffers be requested by a midi command? Would be useful for an editor. >> Yes, they can. Here a cutting of our SysEx manual: Single Request [message]= 30 :Single Request bb :Bank Number 00: Single Edit buffer; 01:single bank A; 02:single bank B ss :Program Number 0..127 Note: When bank number is set to 00, the program number is the part number that addresses one of the sixteen Single Edit buffer in Multi Mode (00..0F) or the Single buffer in Single Mode (40). Ciao Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 30 12:00:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:26:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: MULTI select * From: "Philipp Mott" Does anyone know how to select a MULTI using MIDI ? Btw: - Cubase users only - don't know wether other sequencers behave similar... If you try to select a SINGLE using track or part parameters cubase maps the bank number to both controller 32 (BankSelectLSB) and Controller 0 (BankSelectMSB). Since the VIRUS interpretes both controllers the same way (as BankSelectLSB) you have to use bank number 129 to select bank B (in order to set both controllers to 1), not number 1 ! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Sep 30 13:06:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:05:12 EDT Subject: Re: MULTI select * From: CKe9644719@aol.com << * From: "Philipp Mott" >Does anyone know how to select a MULTI using MIDI ? The Multi programchange is not implemented yet. It will be available in the V 1.55 coming soon, together with a Dis/Ena switch. Sorry that this wasn't implemented yet, even when it was described in the manual. >Btw: >- Cubase users only - don't know wether other sequencers behave similar... If you try to select a SINGLE using track or part parameters cubase maps the bank number to both controller 32 (BankSelectLSB) and Controller 0 (BankSelectMSB). Since the VIRUS interpretes both controllers the same way (as BankSelectLSB) you have to use bank number 129 to select bank B (in order to set both controllers to 1), not number 1 ! This is right. Since the bank select message was rarely interpreted correctly by several companies, we decided to implement this in the same way as e.g. Kurzweil did it: The Virus interpretes both LSB and MSB as the same one-byte bank-number. This works fine, exept with Cubase in some situations (chase event mode), where the MSB and LSB are sent in the opposit range. In V 1.55 the Virus bank select will interpreted as midi standard and so probably work fine, the Cubase 4.0 offers the opportunity to set the modus operandum of the bank select. Does anybody know what company started the bank-select confusion years ago? Christoph Kemper ACCESS ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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