X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 1 08:49:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:48:20 EDT Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Elhardt@aol.com >>OK, but I wanna know why. Is it because you are drawing some patch with your mouse for an hour before you have a sound ready ? Or is the machine so incredible you can't stop playing with it. I think you could say the same about the Virus, right ?<< There are just so many more possibilities with a modular. The synth isn't pre-patched in the typical configuration. If you need more than two oscillators or envelope generators, just patch them in. If you want to synthesize a Mellotron type choir, you may need three filters in parallel. I created a very nice violin/cello patch using four delay lines with feedback to simulate the body resonances of that instrument. If you want additive synthesis, throw in a few sine wave oscillators. Can't do these things with a Virus. >>I'm not sure what you mean : the Mod isn't good in classic sounds or are you a purist saying the Mod is way too good to do those stupid classic sounds ?<< It is fine at doing those sounds. I just get the feeling that too many people think of the synthesizer as only a bass or lead line instrument. If that is the case, the Modular is over kill. But if you are not one of those people, ignore that comment. And as you mentioned, the Nord is adding new stuff, including a vocoder and some other interesting new modules. By the way, you can always patch the Nord into a Super-Virus like configuration if you want. A sort of Virtual Virus. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 1 14:51:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Cc: "Cubase Users" , "Wavestation Users List" , "sounddiver-users" , "Digital Hell" , "analogue" Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:50:20 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Novation mailing list * From: "Martin Selway" Some people may find this useful, sorry to those who don't! A Novation Users mailing list has started: http://www.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~mickey/NOVA/mailinglist.html for info. Regards, MARTIN ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 1 21:00:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:03:16 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Can someone convince me ? * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Elhardt@aol.com > >There are just so many more possibilities with a modular. The synth isn't pre-patched in the typical configuration. If you need more than two oscillators or envelope generators, just patch them in. If you want to synthesize a Mellotron type choir, you may need three filters in parallel. I >created a very nice violin/cello patch using four delay lines with feedback to >simulate the body resonances of that instrument. If you want additive synthesis, throw in a few sine wave oscillators. Can't do these things with a >Virus. Hahahaha, simulating a Mellotron with sawtooth, sine, pulse or other waves???? Thats never possible. You only get a real Mellotron sound when you use one. (or sampe every note and still it misses something) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl (mellotron-user) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 2 03:17:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:48 EDT Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Elhardt@aol.com <> Simulating Vocal sounds has little to do with what waveform you are using, and more to do with setting up a bunch of filters to simulate the vocal track. There are at least two vocoders that let you just play preset male and female voices and all they do is feed a standard synth/string sound through the vocoder filter section, to give a chorus sound similar to a Mellotron. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 2 20:53:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:57:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Can someone convince me ? * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Elhardt@aol.com > >Simulating Vocal sounds has little to do with what waveform you are using, and >more to do with setting up a bunch of filters to simulate the vocal track. There are at least two vocoders that let you just play preset male and female >voices and all they do is feed a standard synth/string sound through the vocoder filter section, to give a chorus sound similar to a Mellotron. Sounds interesting! Does it also contain the 'drop-outs' and instability of the tapes? :-) I'm sure the Nord Modular is an exciting device, you don't have to convince me that. But so is this synth and that synth and the other one... I had to make a decision and found Virus the most practible (is this English?) and the sound is great too. (and it looks nice in my rack :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 5 18:03:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 03 Jul 1998 10:22:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Skwit@le-line.net (Christian Wiesner) Hi access-list! >and the sound is great too. >(and it looks nice in my rack :-)) How did you put the Virus in your rack? I phoned around in germany but nobody could send me some rack-rails ;) , Rackschienen. TSI had some, but they couldn t send them to me because I m not a distributor. They wanted to send it to Music Store and MS should send it to me but they never arrived. Bye, Chrissi ..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? ## CrossPoint v3.11 R ## ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 3 16:07:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:05:18 EDT Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: OBOTA@aol.com What exactly is a Mellotron? Can you get Kraftwerk style robot voices with it? It sounds like something I would like. Signed, Undecided Virus vs. Nord. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 3 19:28:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 13:36:05 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Big fun with a great synth ! * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net rob can you email me that jupiter patch for the virus??? thx weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 3 20:49:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: MIDI Dump Problems * From: Tim Anderson I have been having problems getting the MIDI Dump to work properly. I want to update to system 1.54, but before I do so, I want to make sure I have my Bank A programs backed up. Before when I first got the machine I tried dumping bank b before loading in some of the programs on Canines page.. I did the dump and then loaded all of the programs from Canines page.. When I attempted to reload my own, it did not work. It shows SE in small letters on the left side of the screen... I was frustrated, but I only had a couple of programs in that bank I programmed myself so I didn't sweat it.. Now though, I have practically the whole Bank A full of my own programs and I *MUST* get this to work. I have the MIDI DUMP TX set to SingleBankA and the MIDI DUMP RX to ForceToBankB.. That way I can dump bank a and attempt to reload by seeing if bank b has the programs.. It is not working.. Here are the other things I have set up that I believe apply.. If they don't apply to a dump let me know.. MIDI Control Lowpage SysEx and MIDI Control HiPage SysEx... MemProtect Off.. I am using Cubase VST for PC with MOTO Midi Express XT.. BTW I usually have no problems with this setup.. Timing is perfect, midi sync works fine, audio and midi sync up perfectly, etc. I turned off my Midi SYNC functions, and all filtering options (such as sysex which I usually filter).. I attempted to record at various tempos because I remember reading this before... 120, 110, 90, whatever I tried was unsuccessful. The dump exists in the midi file, and when I send it back some of the program information goes through.. Some patches completely intact, some retain the old Bank B name, and some have garbled names.. The sound parameters are likewise.. Any idea what the problem is? I love my sounds in comparison to the presets, and I don't want to have to reprogram them, but I need the feature of 1.54, notably the fixed MIDI Sync, so that you don't have to start at the absolute beginning of a sequence for it to sync properly. (Unfortunately my K2000 is the same way, and there is no fix for that at least in software updates) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 3 20:45:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 20:48:16 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Can someone convince me ? * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: OBOTA@aol.com > >What exactly is a Mellotron? Can you get Kraftwerk style robot voices with >it? It sounds like something I would like. :-) That would be a vocoder. Kraftwerk has used the Mellotron on some records like Radio-activity but mostly for strings and choirs. A mellotron is an analogue sampler. It uses tapes rather then SIMM-memory for its sounds. Under every note there is a tape of 7 sec. long. It has a very characteristic and unmistakeble sound. Remember Nights in White Satin, Strawberry Fields, every 70s Tangerine Dream record, 70s Genesis, Leny Kravitz, Oasis. For me it's THE best strings/choir/flute/cello sound there is. (Solina Strings comes close) I think you love it or you just don't. I always get a big smile on my face when I ask a music-seller or musician if they have heard of the Mellotron and they look at me with big eyes and say no. (I'd say 60-70% just don't know). To me it sounds almost the same when I ask those people if they have heard of a MiniMoog and say no. Very very very very strange! The godfather of synth. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 3 22:14:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 21:16:31 +0100 Organization: SoundHome CC: Kai Niggemann Subject: Galaxy Librarian * From: Guenther Albrecht While working on an Librarian for the Yamaha 03D (anyone mailing list?) i realized that my Virus Librarian will only work with Viruses set to the factory Device ID of 0! so you can only use 1 Virus and only with that Device ID. I immediately sat down & corrected my mistakes. I call it Version 1.1. load it at: www.pan.com/saliter/virus.htm regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 4 03:44:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 18:47:46 -0800 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: David Flores Yes, you're right, I was wrong...SORRY!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 4 18:37:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-ROUTED: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 09:36:18 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Dihm Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:46:45 +0000 Organization: White Cloud Productions Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Don Ihm I am new to this list and have been an interested observer for the past week or so. Comparing Apples and Oranges like the Virus and the Nord Modular isn't my concern as much as obtaining facts and opinions on similiar types. Where I live I had the opportunity for only a brief encounter with the Virus. The dealer had one and I anxiously attempted to audtion it. Unfortunately they didn't have a clue about how to present it to this potential buyer. I tried listening with headphones as the store situation wasn't ideal for for a blast through their speakers(although I did have a few moments of that) The headphone signal was weak, so my assessment was limited. I went back a few days later when the store was less crowded and to my dismay, they had sent the unit back to the Rep. Seems the only way I can check it out is to order and buy one as they are not going to stock them. The same with their Waldorf stuff. My question is directed toward the differences between the Virus and the Microwave11 and XT(sonically). I am aware of the specs. of each piece, but am in a situation that doesn't allow me to compare their various sound characteristics. I have my bread and butter stuff taken care of as I own the Yamaha EX5, I just want to include a dedicated virtual to my kit. I am not looking so much for typical analog as I also have an OB Matrix 1000 and Juno1. I like the idea of processesing these through the external inputs the Virus or XT offer. What I am after is more unique and nasty sounds, and a intuitive way to acheive that. As I mentioned above, I have the analog gig covered and the ability to compliment what I have with filters would be a bonus. From what I have gathered from reviews and user comments, is the Virus filters are to die for. I have even seen where it was commented that the Virus is capable of Microwave type sounds. If this were the case the Virus would be my choice. If the Microwave 11 or XT is such a different animal, and give me the sound I desire, well then I would have to consider it. I haven't mention the SuperNova as it hasn't been out long enough to assess yet. Thanks to all that took the time to read such a long thread. Any comments? dihm ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 4 18:58:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:16:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Gene Schwartz >The same with their Waldorf >stuff. My question is directed toward the differences between the Virus and the Microwave11 and XT(sonically). I am aware of the specs. of each piece, but am in a situation that doesn't allow me to compare their various sound characteristics. I have my bread and butter stuff taken care of as I own the Yamaha EX5, I just want to include a dedicated virtual to my kit. I am not looking so much for typical analog as I also have an OB Matrix 1000 and Juno1. I like the idea of processesing these through the external inputs the Virus or XT offer. What I am after is more unique and nasty sounds, and a intuitive way to acheive that. IMO, because of its wavetables, and great modulation flexibility, the MWII (or XT) is better for unique, evolving, and nasty sounds. The Virus has a more 'classic analog synth' aesthetic, and makes it easier to create these type of sounds. >As I >mentioned above, I have the analog gig covered and the ability to compliment what I have with filters would be a bonus. From what I have gathered from reviews and user comments, is the Virus filters are to die for. I have even seen where it was commented that the Virus is capable of Microwave type sounds. Well, sure, kind of. But, the Virus simply does not have the timbral range that the MWII has. >If this were the case the Virus would be my choice. If the Microwave 11 or XT is such a different animal, and give me the sound I desire, well then I would have to consider it. I haven't mention the SuperNova as it hasn't been out long enough to assess yet. Thanks to all that took the time to read such a long thread. Any comments? The Virus is a GREAT sounding synth. At this point, the filtering of external signals is more flexible than the MWIIXT, mainly because of the auxilliary inputs and outputs in the Virus signal path - i.e. you can send your external signal through a multitude of Virus filters. Its filter is more analog and fatter sounding than the Microwave. The modulation capabilities of the Virus, unfortunately, are quite limited compared to the Microwave II. However, if your emphasis is on creating unique, evolving timbres, there is no choice. You want the MWII (or XT). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 5 14:35:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:30:46 +0200 Subject: website * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Time to let you all know there have been some changes on the website. I added a link to Emagic for their Access Virus SoundDiver module on the Download page. Also I organized all the information texts and lists into a "documentation" page. Everybody who hasn't been there in a while, please check out the guestbook and leave a message for everybody else to read... Before posting please note that v1.54 is the current OS version. please install it before asking questions and reporting bugs anywhere... don't blow your top, Canine The CareCompany ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 5 14:35:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:35:29 +0200 Subject: MPEG 3 on mac * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi guas, this is a wee bit off topic, but I need to know, not only for the virus website... Does anybody know a decent tool to encode MPEG files on a macintosh? I have tried the M Pecker encoder but there is only a beta version that expired without a new version appearing. are there any commercial tools that are usable? any experiences? any comments? Even though I am commited to thinking different I might just use VirtualPC (and Win95) so any tips on the fastest, best, smallest MPEG encoder on that platform (speed does matter, Virtual PC is slow enough as it is...) would be very welcome too. thank you all! don't blow your top, Canine The CareCompany ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 5 14:35:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:37:13 +0200 Subject: Virtual PC * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" On thinking about virtual PC, I have read in German Keys magazine that the Nord Modular software now works on the Mac using Virtual PC. Even though in the back of my head I have something that it only works with specific midi interfaces such as Unitor 8 by Emagic. I don't remember exactly. that's a start though, isn't it? don't blow your top, Canine The CareCompany ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 5 19:50:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 19:54:01 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Can someone convince me ? * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Skwit@le-line.net (Christian Wiesner) > >How did you put the Virus in your rack? I phoned around in germany but nobody could send me some rack-rails ;) , Rackschienen. TSI had some, but >they couldn t send them to me because I m not a distributor. They wanted to send it to Music Store and MS should send it to me but they never arrived. Well, actually I haven't got them too...not yet! I ordered the rack-mount from the same shop where I bought the Virus. But it's taking AGES to arrive. The same story with the Virus, btw. I had to wait over 6 months for that one. So mr. Virus - when is my rack-mount coming.....it's now at a place where I can't access it very good. (if I had a concert coming up I couldn't put my Virus anywhere because I haven't got those rack-mounts) Don't get me wrong I LOVE my Virus, but if every product coming from Access takes this long to arrive then I will think twice.... hmmm, what will be the next product, btw? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 5 19:08:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 10:26:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Virtual PC * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >On thinking about virtual PC, I have read in German Keys magazine that the Nord Modular software now works on the Mac using Virtual PC. Even though in the back of my head I have something that it only works with specific midi interfaces such as Unitor 8 by Emagic. I don't remember exactly. > Yes, it requires the Unitor 8. >that's a start though, isn't it? > Not really, because apparently they haven't, nor will they devote any resources to developing the software for a Mac. Plus, a Unitor8 costs about as much as a PC just powerful enough to run the software. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 09:41:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Cc: canine@muenster.de Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 07:33:04 GMT Subject: SoundDiver Adaption (was: website) * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de >heya< >Time to let you all know there have been some changes on the website. I added a link to Emagic for their Access Virus SoundDiver module on the Download page. "EMAGIC has relased a Virus module for their universal patch editor/librarian SoundDiver. The link takes you directly to their page in a new window. Close the window to return back here. This is the German Macintosh version, sorry folks but Emagic has a sort of unorganized website and there doesn't seem to be a wWindows version to be downloaded individually. Neither an English version." After I got my virus 4 weeks ago, I tried to play around with making my first adaption for our SoundDiver. It worked quite good, so I set up the whole single edit buffer parameters in one page... Currently, my adaption has no helpfile, it is base on Virus OS 1.53 and it's layout is kind of personal :) If anyone is interested in my SoundDiver Virus-beta-adaption with full single patch edit capabilities, made on windows, but runs on mac too. Please let me know where to post it... With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: skujawa@mail.emagic.de Mon Jul 6 09:39:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Cc: canine@muenster.de Subject: SoundDiver Adaption (was: website) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 07:33:04 GMT Reply-To: skujawa@mail.emagic.de >heya< >Time to let you all know there have been some changes on the website. I added a link to Emagic for their Access Virus SoundDiver module on the Download page. "EMAGIC has relased a Virus module for their universal patch editor/librarian SoundDiver. The link takes you directly to their page in a new window. Close the window to return back here. This is the German Macintosh version, sorry folks but Emagic has a sort of unorganized website and there doesn't seem to be a wWindows version to be downloaded individually. Neither an English version." After I got my virus 4 weeks ago, I tried to play around with making my first adaption for our SoundDiver. It worked quite good, so I set up the whole single edit buffer parameters in one page... Currently, my adaption has no helpfile, it is base on Virus OS 1.53 and it's layout is kind of personal :) If anyone is interested in my SoundDiver Virus-beta-adaption with full single patch edit capabilities, made on windows, but runs on mac too. Please let me know where to post it... With greetings from Germany Sascha KujawaX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 11:03:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:04:29 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: what is a mellotron, how to imitate one * From: Dimitri Sijperda Like a lot of people will have done I guess, i started looking for information about this mellotron immediately after I heard that those lovely voice sounds of the old days were made with a thing called mellotron..... Here are some links. mellotron-only links (in personal order of importance): http://www.eclipse.co.uk/vemia/mellotron/ http://www.masterbits.de/mello_d.htm http://www.anita-webdesign.demon.nl/synth/mellotro/400.htm search for word mellotron in: http://ftp.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~philkime/RMP/faq4.html http://weber.ucg.ie/tomita/technology.html I guess the voices are made with a ´mellotron 400 choir´. A way to imitate a mellotron like sound (no, you can make it sound like a real one) -Take a big sampler, like akai s3000. -take a church -take an old tape recorder. Like the first one you had as a birthday present of your parents. -have a good voice (take singing lessons or hire a singer, with soprano and alto voices you won´t succeed if you´re male :p ) -record all notes, from your lowest to your highest on the tape recorder. Keep each note for abaout 10 seconds. Do this in the church. -now sample em all, and put each note under 1 key. You could use the filters of the virus to change the accoustic caracteristisc of the voices. -Try to make the loops as smooth as possible, I won´t explain how. Hmm.... since i myself have sinsgin´lessons I geuess I can start right away. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science Kamer J0-020, AMC Meibergdreef 15 1105 AZ Amsterdam ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 11:14:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:15:14 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: I had delivery problems too * From: Dimitri Sijperda This is the reason I very quickly decided to buy my virus: The music store ordered som more than 4 months ago, and started to call the distributor *****CENSORED***** :p , anyway, bad things. Only then arived the huge amount of... 2 virusses. The first was ordered and already paid for. The second was snached away by me. I´m not gonna wait 4 months! Dimitri. At 19:54 5-7-98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: "Marcel Engels" >Well, actually I haven't got them too...not yet! I ordered the rack-mount from the same shop where I bought the Virus. But it's taking AGES to arrive. The same story with the Virus, btw. I had to wait over 6 months for that one. >So mr. Virus - when is my rack-mount coming.....it's now at a place where I can't access it very good. >(if I had a concert coming up I couldn't put my Virus anywhere because I haven't got those rack-mounts) > >Don't get me wrong I LOVE my Virus, but if every product coming from Access takes this long to arrive then I will think twice.... > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science Kamer J0-020, AMC Meibergdreef 15 1105 AZ Amsterdam ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 15:05:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:06:19 -0400 X-Sender: robm@mailgate.nytimes.com Subject: Re: MPEG 3 on mac * From: Robert Monn The new version of Mpecker encoder is available.. . check http://www.raum.com/mpeg for all things mpeg. _______________________________________________________________________ This email does not necessarily reflect the opinions of The New York Times. _______________________________________________________________________ Rob Monn | The New York Times Electronic Media Company robm@nytimes.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: skujawa@mail.emagic.de Mon Jul 6 16:37:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: SoundDiver Adaption Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:30:56 GMT Reply-To: skujawa@mail.emagic.de >heya< >Hi Sascha, you can email it to me and I will put it on the "http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus" website, if you like. Just make sure to let me know whenever there is a new version. Here they are... ZIP = SoundDiver Windows Adaption SIT = SoundDiver Mac Adaption of course :) Maybe I should make some kind of read.me file? Hm... Do you have SoundDiver? Wanna take a look... I gonna send updates files soon... Sprichst Du eigentlich auch deutsch? Byeee... Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Virus098.zip Content-Description: SoundDiver Windows Adaption Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Virus098.zip Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:Virus098.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (000091C7) Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=VirusAdaption.sit Content-Description: SoundDiver Mac Adaptation Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=VirusAdaption.sit Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:VirusAdaption.sit (????/----) (000091C8)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 18:18:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:17:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: dylan@pixar.com I have even seen where it was commented that the Virus is capable >of Microwave type sounds. If this were the case the Virus would be my choice. If the Microwave 11 or XT is such a different animal, and give me the sound I desire, well then I would have to consider it. I haven't mention the SuperNova as it hasn't been out long enough to assess yet. Thanks to all that took the time to read such a long thread. Any comments? Well, I ran into the same dilema, sort of.... I had the Virus and the MW2XT on evaluation loan for a week, and within the first day I became addicted to both beasts. I have to admit that I was literally drawn to the Virus more than the XT. After playing the Virus for an hour or so, I'd play with the XT, and after about 10 minutes I'd be back on the Virus again... Addicting that thing is... Some of the sounds are similar, but for the most part I feel that each machine has it's own unique place in the sound generating world. I guess I'd say that the Virus has a "rawer" sound meaning more gritty, able to literally scream and wail (if your into that sort of thing) The pads are pretty nice too though. The XT's sound is perhaps a bit warmer with a bit more breadth. I would say that the XT is capable of producing more complex sounds than the Virus, but not as "cutting" as the Virus. The filters on the Virus are totally amazing, and perhaps a wee bit cleaner than the XT's. I haven't yet processed anything through either of their external inputs yet.. I think that these two machines compliment each other nicely which is why after fooling around with them for a week in my studio I decided to bite the bullet and buy them both. =) I guess it all comes down to personal preference, and you really should give both a fair listen. This was the first time that I had the chance to take equipment home for an evaluation period, and after having done so I can say that it makes all the difference in the world. Having the ability to integrate new equipment into your studio is really a great way of finding out how YOU will use it. After a couple days of playing with these machines through my monitors, I plugged the headphones straight into the Virus. Night and day. I was much less impressed with the Virus when listening to it through headphones. I don't know if I would have bought it after listening to it like that. It lost some of it's grit and power that way. Anyhoot, sorry to ramble on... I hope you find this info useful. Get a Virus, and get an XT if you can. You won't be disappointed. Dylan -- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 19:49:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:53:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: what is a mellotron, how to imitate one * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >Like a lot of people will have done I guess, i started looking for information >about this mellotron immediately after I heard that those lovely voice sounds of the old days were made with a thing called mellotron..... Here are >some links. > >mellotron-only links (in personal order of importance): http://www.eclipse.co.uk/vemia/mellotron/ http://www.masterbits.de/mello_d.htm >http://www.anita-webdesign.demon.nl/synth/mellotro/400.htm > >search for word mellotron in: >http://ftp.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~philkime/RMP/faq4.html http://weber.ucg.ie/tomita/technology.html > >I guess the voices are made with a ¥mellotron 400 choir¥. Could be...but there are exactly 10 different choir sets for the 400. I won't name them all, but here are a few: male, female, male/female, 8 choir, 15 choir etc. It's so strange...I really like ALL sounds coming from the mellotron, the choir, violins/cello and flute are my favs. Those digital synths could really learn from this machine, the sound just lives. >A way to imitate a mellotron like sound (no, you can make it sound like a real one) (snip) or you can get a copy from Masterbits. 2CDs for fl. 99,-. (US$69,-) (and no I won't copy mine :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 19:49:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:53:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: I had delivery problems too * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >This is the reason I very quickly decided to buy my virus: The music store ordered som more than 4 months ago, and started to call the >distributor *****CENSORED***** :p , anyway, bad things. Only then arived the huge amount of... 2 virusses. The first was ordered and already paid for. The second was snached away by me. I¥m not gonna wait 4 months! Where did you ordered it? Mines from Tach en Tally from Den Haag. >Dimitri Sijperda >member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science >Kamer J0-020, AMC >Meibergdreef 15 >1105 AZ Amsterdam Hmm, AMC...thats close to where I work (ING, Hoogoorddreef) :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 20:08:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:09:05 +0200 Subject: RE: what is a mellotron, how to imitate one * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" how about it, access: make the Virus II a "Virtual Mellotrone"...;) that should be interesting. but possible. don't blow your top, Canine The CareCompany ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 20:20:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 11:11:15 -0700 Subject: Re: what is a mellotron, how to imitate one * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >A way to imitate a mellotron like sound (no, you can make it sound like a real one) For what it's worth, if you have an A3000 there is a Mellotron sample on the teklab ftp site: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/a3k/SampleArchive Might be curious to know if anyone's managed to make a Mellotron'ish sound for the Virus yet... I know, purists won't be absolutely happy, but I'm sure we can get close... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 21:13:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:15:57 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: what is a mellotron, how to imitate one * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >how about it, access: make the Virus II a "Virtual Mellotrone"...;) > >that should be interesting. but possible. Not possible, imo. :-) Every key has to sound different which is the Virus not capable of. A C3 and a C#3 both sound different on a mellotron and a D3 from a D#3 etc etc...thats what it makes it so special. And it's not just tuning the keys a bit, no I mean really a different sound. If someone can do this I will eat my hat! It would be the best sound-programmer I could think of....so guys, get programming. Watch out though, I know the Mellotron and its sound so it better be good :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 21:19:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:23:15 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: what is a mellotron, how to imitate one * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >>A way to imitate a mellotron like sound (no, you can make it sound like a real one) > >For what it's worth, if you have an A3000 there is a Mellotron sample on the teklab ftp site: > > ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/a3k/SampleArchive > >Might be curious to know if anyone's managed to make a Mellotron'ish sound for the Virus yet... I know, purists won't be absolutely happy, but I'm sure we can get close... For the typical Mellotron String sound you need a Violin (strings) sound and a Cello sound. The cello would be lower in volume then the strings. Put both thru some unstable/gentle filter setting and maybe some very slight distortion. Then you have something which comes (not even close :-)) to the mellotron. The Choir is a whole different game. When played higher it wines (which adds to the atmosphere, imo) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl oke, I'm a purist ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 21:44:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 15:42:53 EDT Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Elhardt@aol.com <> The most needed (mandatory) effect for synths is reverb. It's going to sound sterile without that. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 22:01:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 15:00:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Virus on Headphones? * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com * Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >The most needed (mandatory) effect for synths is reverb. It's going to sound >sterile without that. Oh, I'm just going to have to disagree with that. I tend to run my mixes very very dry (like my martinis) - My Virus sounds just fine going direct. I think the bigger problem with the headphones thing is that the Virus can't drive the phones hard enough (a problem shared by many synths - including the old PPG Waves). You need to run it through a board to get the proper volume, but you don't need to add any 'verb, if you don't want to. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 22:27:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:27:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus on Headphones? * From: dylan@pixar.com I'd have to agree with both opinions. I was running a wee touch of tempo synced delay when I was evaluating mine (on monitors) and it added a lot to it without "overeffecting" the sound. I also agree that the headphone jack is weak, probably why I wasn't as impressed through headphones, and that the Virus does sound great dry through monitors, especially in a mix. Dylan On Jul 6, 3:00pm, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Subject: Virus on Headphones? >* From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com > >* Elhardt@aol.com wrote: > >>The most needed (mandatory) effect for synths is reverb. It's going to >sound >>sterile without that. > >Oh, I'm just going to have to disagree with that. I tend to run my mixes very very dry (like my martinis) - My Virus sounds just fine going direct. I think the bigger problem with the headphones thing is that the Virus can't drive the phones hard enough (a problem shared by many synths - including the old PPG Waves). You need to run it through a board to get the proper volume, but you don't need to add any 'verb, if you don't want to. > >Jim >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- End of excerpt from access-list@tl36.teklab.com -- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 23:20:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:21:55 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: RE: I had delivery problems too * From: Dimitri Sijperda Hello Neighbour! At 19:53 6-7-98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: "Marcel Engels" >Where did you ordered it? Mines from Tach en Tally from Den Haag. I bought it at Dykman Muziekinstrumenten, Amsterdam. They ordered one extra. Just in case. And I was the case that bought it. :) They waited four months for the first two to arrive. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science Kamer J0-020, AMC Meibergdreef 15 1105 AZ Amsterdam ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 6 23:51:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The need for effects? * From: Tim Anderson Someone here just proclaimed that synths sound weak, or bad with effects. I must say, I sincerely protest. Generally if you need to add chorus or reverb to a sound to "fatten" it, or "give it life", it is the fault of the programmer, not the synth or the patch in itself. Thankfully, when I first started programming when I recieved my K2000 a few years back, I hated its onboard effects so much I turned them off completely. This taught me quite a bit about giving life and power to sounds with relying of effects. When I listen to most mixes now a days, particularly by electronic musicians, I find them too wet and drenched in effects. Don't get me wrong, effects are great, as that.. effects. But effects to make a sound powerful, or vibrant means that your patch sucks to begin with. Reverb should be used to add some "ambience" to a mix, or to make it more distant.. Actually, I don't believe in a set use for anything, but I must say that anyone who says all synth sounds need to be effected to be good is a bad programmer. The less effects the more "in your face" the sound. Just look at most people screaming about nord leads.. That is because they arent washed out with effects in the presets like the JP8000. I encourage all of you to spend some time programming all your patches dry. Frightening concept to some of you, I'm sure, but in the end your mixes will be cleaner and more "in your face" and then you can add effects as a sonic sweetener. I am of course referring to chorus/reverb type effects and not something like "vocoder" which becomes the character of the sound in question. Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 01:09:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 01:08:49 +0200 Subject: crackling noises * From: molter Hi there! Sorry, I remember there were already some mailings about crackling noises which sound like slight digital overload, but I didn't store them, because I didn't experience these noises until V 1.53. Now I upgraded to 1.54 (just the system not the banks) and I already hear these noises. They always occur when there are some contoller changes. They disappear when I play the channel in solo mode. Any hints? Greetings Christian ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 02:21:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:48:50 +0200 Subject: Re: The need for effects? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" In the July issue of future Music (british Keyboard magazine) was a great feature on FX. "100 Tips for effects" or something like that. included very many different types of fx, and lots of variations. Personally, I like to use Delay a lot, becuase it adds some space without needing as much room as reverb does. Also it can add a lot of randomness and weirdness to the groove. I use "BPMcalc", a small pürogram that lets you type in or tap in a tempo and calculates all different ms times for delays. I don't have any real good reverbs so I don't like to use reverb that much, just a bit of room here and a plate there, but small and usually with a distinct predelay to cut the signal loose from the wetness... I enjoy using compression and distortion as effects though. The nice things one can do to a lame drumloop if you compress it to death. One particular sweet thing is the "Audio energizer" Logic Audio has. crank it up to about 300-500% and listen to the squeaky noises where there used to be silence... wonderful. And not just for those who are into industrial. any more hints anyone? don't blow your top, Canine The CareCompany ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 03:40:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:37:16 EDT Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Mike478640@aol.com i had the microwave xt for 1 week, then i got the virus, and i find tha it deppends of the music you are making, which one woiuld be the best for you, i think the microwave is more for making ambient music, or doing movie scores, and the virus has more like "pre-set sounds" you can use them straight out from the box to your music. my advice, get both of them if you can, they complement each other very well. see ya. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 09:22:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:19:57 +0200 Subject: Noise on Out1 * From: Erich.Wehmeyer@SANLAM.CO.ZA Greetings from CapeTown! Just have to mention how bizarre it is that there seems to be a great problem getting the Virus in Europe, but here it was relatively easy for us to get one (and there is another one available as well i beleive..) anyway, i would like to know if anyone else has noticed that there is a slight noise on OUT1 - which isn't there on OUT2/3? It could off course just be a faulty component/dry solder on our machine - or is it a design problem? .e ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 09:58:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:59:21 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: Noise on Out1 * From: Dimitri Sijperda Hello! It may sound as a stupid question but...are you sure that ext input is off? I had thins once. Greets from Amsterdam, Dimitri. At 09:19 7-7-98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: Erich.Wehmeyer@SANLAM.CO.ZA > >Greetings from CapeTown! >Just have to mention how bizarre it is that there seems to be a great problem getting the Virus in Europe, but here it was relatively easy for us to get one (and there is another one available as well i beleive..) > >anyway, i would like to know if anyone else has noticed that there is a slight noise on OUT1 - which isn't there on OUT2/3? It could off course just be a faulty component/dry solder on our machine - or is it a design problem? > >.e >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science Kamer J0-020, AMC Meibergdreef 15 1105 AZ Amsterdam ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 15:31:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 06:27:13 -0700 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Sender-Ip: 195.29.253.34 Organization: MailExcite (http://www.mailexcite.com:80) Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: "Hrastovcak Zeljko" I agree with Dylan and Mike about the Virus and MicroWave. They really complement each other and give you an excellent combination - in fact they give you one "super-synth" with endless synthesis possibilities. I decided to buy both Virus and MicroWave 2 (not MicroWave XT). I already own the Yamaha A-3000 (Version 2) sampler and Roland JD-990 with Vintage Synth and Techno Collection expansion boards (sorry, one at the time inside JD) and with the new members of my synth family I will surely have something to do in the next few years. According to Wolfram Franke from Waldorf, new MicroWave 2 (made after 1st of April) contains the same mainboard as its big brother MicroWave XT so it has the same features as XT, but without knobs, switches and external input. Everything else is exactly the same (including the delay effect from XT, etc.). But it costs about 1000 DEM less than XT. Maybe it has the socket for external input on mainboard, too. After my waranty period elapses I will search for them, for sure. So, I will patch the Sub Outs of MicroWave to external input of Virus and I'll have the possibility to process 2 complex sounds generated by wavetable synthesis from MicroWave through the Virus and its amazing filters. Furthermore, sounds can be routed through the Virus internal aux paths for more processing and filtering. And some of Virus aditional outputs can be connected to the input on A-3000 and processed through its 3 independent effect processors. Think about it: wavetable sounds + 24 dB filters + excellent modulation possibilities + effects from MicroWave + analog sounds + 36 dB filters + aux paths + knobs and switches + effects from Virus! This is the most powerfull combination for the money! According to Direct Shop (http://www.musicians-gear.com) the prices for Virus and MicroWave 2 are 2368 DEM and 1872 DEM, respectively, which gives the total of 4240 DEM (with tax) for both of them. This is not so far from Novation Supernova which costs 3566 DEM (with tax) but has much less power than Virus and MicroWave together. In fact, and in my personal opinion, Virus beats Supernova in every sense except the 3rd oscillator, ring modulation (MW2 has one), independent effects processors and lots of arpeggiator patterns. I don't think the effects have so much influence on the sound - if the patch is crap then it will be crap with or without the effects. And the preset patterns aren't so much useful if you want to make original music. Great thing is that both Virus and MW2 have their firmware and operating system in Flash ROM and both are regulary updated by Access and Waldorf. Every new version of OS introduced some new features and I think it will be the same in the future, too. Remember, for example, that OS version 1.5x introduced 16-part multi mode apart from 8-part in the start. Great! There is not a lot of things that are missing on both synths, maybe the new modulation sources for modulation matrix (like envelopes and LFOs), ring modulation, more effect types, more filter routing options on Virus and more filter types for Filter 2 and more effect types on MicroWave. Hope I was of some help for everybody interested in Virus and MicroWave ... Hrast. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 18:08:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:02:17 +0200 Encoding: 8 TEXT, 47 UUENCODE Subject: AW: Can someone convince me ? * From: Rudolf Lindner >>I decided to buy both Virus and MicroWave 2 (not MicroWave XT). Souldn't it be possible to use the knobs of the virus and use some software on the PC/MAC to translate the controller messages of the VIRUS to messages that change sounds on the MicroWave? So that you can use the VIRUS as a MW programmer? Greetings, Rudolf ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:WINMAIL.DAT 1 (????/----) (000091EF)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 7 19:25:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 17:17:40 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: AW: Can someone convince me ? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:02:17 +0200, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Souldn't it be possible to use the knobs of the virus and use some software on the PC/MAC to translate the controller messages of the VIRUS to messages that change sounds on the MicroWave? So that you can use the VIRUS as a MW programmer? Yeah, I did this for the Pulse and started to do it for the MW II but then decided an XT was the thing for me. Not got one yet tho... Anyway, if you have Cubase, check www.softroom.demon.co.uk/resource.htm for the Virus/Pulse mixermap. There are some of my Virus patches there too. But they're not a patch on Rob's. Hehe. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 8 18:03:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 07 Jul 1998 19:55:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Skwit@le-line.net (Christian Wiesner) >Well, actually I haven't got them too...not yet! I ve got them! Yesterday Music City called me "Your ordered rack-mounts for the virus are here! But I wanted to ask if you still want them, because you ordered them on 24th March... " ;))) >But it's taking AGES to arrive. The same story with the Virus, btw. I had to wait over 6 months for that one. I had my after three days in fact. I ordered on 28.12. and it arrived 30. or 31. Bye, Chrissi ..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? ## CrossPoint v3.11 R ## ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 8 02:40:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:38:17 EDT Subject: Re: AW: Can someone convince me ? * From: Mike478640@aol.com In a message dated 98-07-07 13:25:52 EDT, you write: << www.softroom.demon.co.uk/resource.htm >> thanx for the mixermap paul. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 8 09:35:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 09:33:10 +0200 Subject: Re: AW: Can someone convince me ? * From: Erich.Wehmeyer@SANLAM.CO.ZA >Souldn't it be possible to use the knobs of the virus and use some software on the PC/MAC to translate the controller messages of the VIRUS to messages that change sounds on the MicroWave? So that you can use the VIRUS as a MW programmer? there's a PC program called MIDI-TRANSLATOR sorry - don't have a website, but a quick search should do it. .e ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 8 09:38:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 09:35:37 +0200 Subject: Re: Noise on Out1 * From: Erich.Wehmeyer@SANLAM.CO.ZA Dimitri Sijperda : >It may sound as a stupid question but...are you sure that ext input is off? I had thins once. damn - red-faced... completely forgot about that thanks .e ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 8 13:40:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:32:27 +0200 Subject: Re: AW: Can someone convince me ? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:33 AM +0200 on 08.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>Souldn't it be possible to use the knobs of the virus and use some software on the PC/MAC to translate the controller messages of the VIRUS to messages that change sounds on the MicroWave? So that you can use the VIRUS as a MW programmer? I did this using Logic for the Macintosh. You can find the environment on the website (cf. signature...) all the best don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 8 21:17:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:16:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Arpeggiator interferes with LFOs! * From: Mischa Magyar Hi! Well, I have a very mysterious problem. I have OS V1.54, so it's the newest... I created a multi containing some sounds and one sound with an arpeggiator. The sound with the arp was only played with short and sometimes overlapping notes. But as this sound began to play, some other sound's LFO behaved really strange! The LFO seemed to be in envelope-mode, although it wasn't according to the menu... So the LFO-rate LED blinked strange and the sound jumped in panorama, which wasn't intended in this way... Has anyone of you experienced a similar problem? ciao Mischa -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mischa Magyar mischa@rainbow.studorg.tuwien.ac.at For a journey to Alba try http://rainbow.studorg.tuwien.ac.at/~mischa and enter the Circle of Runes... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 8 22:59:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:03:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Arpeggiator interferes with LFOs! * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Mischa Magyar > >I created a multi containing some sounds and one sound with an arpeggiator. >The sound with the arp was only played with short and sometimes overlapping >notes. But as this sound began to play, some other sound's LFO behaved really strange! The LFO seemed to be in envelope-mode, although it wasn't according to the menu... >So the LFO-rate LED blinked strange and the sound jumped in panorama, which wasn't intended in this way... > >Has anyone of you experienced a similar problem? Yes, me too. Random LFO. When I have made a sequence on my Atari and I have made a sound which uses LFO2 - Filters, the LFO led blinks randomly (and also the filters on the sound). I've experienced a few other strange things too, but I still like the Virus. (I hope someday it's finally 'finished' :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 09:05:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-ROUTED: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:06:46 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Dihm Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 00:17:03 +0000 Organization: White Cloud Productions Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Don Ihm I would like to thank those who replied to my questions regarding the Virus vs. the Microwave XT. Pretty sound advice and assessments. I think that the SuperNova would have to be something unbelievable to beat the Virus, Microwave combination I am considering. I have allittle more time before my next chunk of cash is in and I look forward to all the helpful comments here. Just hope I don't have to wait like some have for the Virus when I am ready to spend... thanks, dihm ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 09:03:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 06:55:54 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: suddenly an empty display * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< I just installed 1.5.4 two days ago and yesterday I doscovered a strange, but new behaviour : I switched it on, display " Access Virus 1.5.4 ...", but after loading my last Song into Logic played something and did some ProgramChanges, I wanted to look at the display, but Virus shows nothing, just a bright display... It was still playing back, but empty display... Had to switch it off and on again... Has anyone else seen this? Maybe its somehow related to the new auto-mode of lfo-LEDs? With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 18:16:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:14:00 +0200 Subject: Re: AW: Can someone convince me ? * From: Skwit@le-line.net (Christian Wiesner) ><< www.softroom.demon.co.uk/resource.htm >> thanx for the mixermap paul. Thanx too, but is there also a normal mixermap for the virus? Bye, Chrissi ..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? ## CrossPoint v3.11 R ## ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 23:23:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 04:20:38 -0500 Subject: Virus-spotting / SATEF98 * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ a silly post of sorts but.....here is some Virus-spotting There will be 2 Virus's squealing away at the Second Annual Texas Electronica Festival in Austin, Texas USA this Saturday and Sunday..... RTFM (techno live PA) will be using their brand new Virus (right Crazy John?) and Mundo (my own drum&bass, dark breakbeat live PA) will be using a Virus as well...) SATEF is a 48 hour nonstop festival of 60 dj's and 20 live PA's all from Texas representing house, breaks, techno, gabber, happy hardcore, trance, trip hop, and Drum&Bass!!!! Virus-spotting to track the worldwide infection! :) Mundo WikidDrama Records-Dallas,TX ...any other sightings..... :) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 22:37:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:42:05 +0200 Subject: bug and workaround * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi list, I have been informed by my informers at access that there is a bug in OS 1.54. If the Virus dumps a sound and receives the data at the same time (through a MIDI loop/sysex through on the sequencer) it may lose data. Workaround: while recording younds in your sequencer, turn off MIDI/Sysex thorugh or unplug the MIDI IN on the Virus itself. Wenn der Virus Sound-Dumps sendet und sie im selben Moment wieder empfängt, treten Datenverluste auf. Workaround: Wenn ein Sound-Dump auf dem Sequenzer aufgenommen wird, sicherstellen, daß Midi-SysEx-Thru disabled ist, im Zweifelsfall Midi-In Kabel rausziehen. This is a known bug and will be fixed in the next version. don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 20:25:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 18:17:57 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: AW: Can someone convince me ? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On 09 Jul 1998 11:14:00 +0200, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Thanx too, but is there also a normal mixermap for the virus? Didn't seem much point to me since the Virus is so well endowed in the knobby department. Maybe one for the LCD functions would be cool.... Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 20:23:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:21:32 EDT Subject: Re: suddenly an empty display * From: Vincia1@aol.com unsubscribe ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 9 20:47:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:46:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Xpander vs. Virus ??? * From: "Paul D'Amato" Hi all ...I am new to the list and don't have a Virus yet , but I am thinking of selling my Xpander and getting a Virus . I have had the Xpander for 2 years and I really don't see what all the hype is . It sounds very dull to me. My question is , would anyone on the list recommend this kind of a tradeoff ? I know of the modulation limitations of the Virus vs. the Xpander , but can you still create "liquid" sound effects and such with the Virus ? I have yet to hear any sound files of the Virus that really impress me , but then again there are not many files out there on the net to hear ... Thanks in advance .... *************************************************************************** Paul D'Amato..................................................................................... ............ sevin@worldnet.att.net.......................................................... ................................ http://home.att.net/~sevin/index.html................... .....................................................always searching for a VCS3........ ***********************************************************************257 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 10 01:40:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:49:01 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: suddenly an empty display * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i had this happen once also just had to reset the unit kai, please have christoph check into this thx weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >>heya< > >I just installed 1.5.4 two days ago and yesterday I doscovered a strange, but new behaviour : > >I switched it on, display " Access Virus 1.5.4 ...", but after loading my last Song into Logic played something and did some ProgramChanges, I wanted to look at the display, but Virus shows nothing, just a bright display... It was still playing back, but empty display... Had to switch it off and on again... > >Has anyone else seen this? Maybe its somehow related to the new auto-mode of lfo-LEDs? > >With greetings from Germany > >Sascha Kujawa >Quality Assurance Manager >Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 10 03:12:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:11:33 EDT Subject: Re: Virus-spotting / SATEF98 * From: Mike478640@aol.com wish you luck mundo. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 10 18:11:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:35:36 -0500 Subject: Re[2]: Virus-spotting / SATEF98 * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Virus-spotting / SATEF98 Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 7/10/98 12:21 AM >* From: crazyjon >you have no idea mundo............that thing is freakin crazy!!!!!!!! it completely TWEAKTASTIK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!it sits so well with my K5000 >Crazyjon >Master of Digital Chicanery >1/4 RTFM hahhhhhaaa! you RTFM people need a padded cell. :) for anyone interested in the SECOND ANNUAL TEXAS ELECTRONICA FESTIVAL '98 Check out: http://members.aol.com/centexrave/satef.htm this year...a sort of masters of ceremonies is Austin TX hero's Gibby Hanes and King Coffee of the Butthole Surfers....who will be performing a more techno influenced version of their "Jack Officers vs Drain" live PA ... another alias of theirs..... the festival will be bizarre... See ya Saturday, Mundo WikidDrama Records - Dallas, TX ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 10 07:24:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:21:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Virus-spotting / SATEF98 * From: crazyjon you have no idea mundo............that thing is freakin crazy!!!!!!!! it completely TWEAKTASTIK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!it sits so well with my K5000 Crazyjon Master of Digital Chicanery 1/4 RTFM access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >a silly post of sorts but.....here is some Virus-spotting > >There will be 2 Virus's squealing away at the Second Annual Texas Electronica Festival in Austin, Texas USA this Saturday and Sunday..... > >RTFM (techno live PA) will be using their brand new Virus (right Crazy John?) > >and Mundo (my own drum&bass, dark breakbeat live PA) will be using a Virus as well...) > >SATEF is a 48 hour nonstop festival of 60 dj's and 20 live PA's all from Texas representing house, breaks, techno, gabber, happy hardcore, trance, trip hop, and Drum&Bass!!!! > >Virus-spotting to track the worldwide infection! :) > >Mundo >WikidDrama Records-Dallas,TX > > >...any other sightings..... :) > > > > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 10 12:54:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:42:01 +0200 Subject: Sysex * From: Erich.Wehmeyer@SANLAM.CO.ZA On the sysex documentation the OUT routing is listed as C40, which is the same as Part Midi Volume. Does any1 know the correct number? (i would guess 41, but knowing b4hand would speed things up a bit) Also - does any1 know if u can put formulas in Cakewalk's Studioware SysX data? .e ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 12 21:46:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:46:11 -0700 Subject: Virus sysex & QY-700 * From: Ronald Pieket Hi, this is my first posting here. I haven't received any messages from the list yet, so I'm not even sure if this thing is working! I got my Virus last week, and (as you all know) the sound is incredible. I still have to iron out some problems with the communication between my Yamaha QY-700 (hardware) sequencer and my new Virus. Sequencing works fine, but there are problems with sending sound banks via sysex. For example, when I try to send a sound bank from the QY to the Virus, some of the sounds in the bank arrive, others don't, and in some cases the sound arrives but its name does not! I have already tried the following settings on the QY: internal clock on/off, tempo 120..30. I have tried the following settings on the Virus: Midi Dump RX enable/ForceToBankA/ForceToBankB. I tried it with sound banks which I previously recorded from the Virus, and also the sound banks from Canine's web site. No luck. I successfully upgraded from system 1.53 to 1.54 by using sysex (after converting Access' original midi file to format 0), so in principle it is working... Any idea what else I could try? - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 12 23:01:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:59:57 EDT Subject: Re: Virus sysex & QY-700 * From: OBOTA@aol.com Has anyone tried sequencing the Virus with an Ensoniq EPS 16+? Awaiting Virus... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 13 02:01:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus sysex & QY-700 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Hi, this is my first posting here. I haven't received any messages from the list yet, so I'm not even sure if this thing is working! > Came through loud and clear here! >I still have to iron out some problems with the communication between my Yamaha QY-700 (hardware) sequencer and my new Virus. Sequencing works fine, but there are problems with sending sound banks via sysex. > I also have a QY700, but I've never used it to send sound banks... >For example, when I try to send a sound bank from the QY to the Virus, some of the sounds in the bank arrive, others don't, and in some cases the sound arrives but its name does not! Have you tried turning the temp down to about 80? >I successfully upgraded from system 1.53 to 1.54 by using sysex (after converting Access' original midi file to format 0), so in principle it is working... > That's interesting -- how'd you fit the Virus OS into the QY700's RAM? I couldn't squeeze it in there for the life of me, and have been using Cakewalk on my PC to do the OS upgrades... Anyway, I'll experiment a bit with my QY700 and Virus this afternoon, see if I can get some results. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 13 10:54:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:08:43 +0200 Subject: repost: bug and workaround * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi list, Since there have been some questions by people who have just joined the list, please let me repost last week's statement: I have been informed by my informers at access that there is a bug in OS 1.54. If the Virus dumps a sound and receives the data at the same time (through a MIDI loop/sysex through on the sequencer) it may lose data. Workaround: while recording younds in your sequencer, turn off MIDI/Sysex thorugh or unplug the MIDI IN on the Virus itself. Wenn der Virus Sound-Dumps sendet und sie im selben Moment wieder empfängt, treten Datenverluste auf. Workaround: Wenn ein Sound-Dump auf dem Sequenzer aufgenommen wird, sicherstellen, daß Midi-SysEx-Thru disabled ist, im Zweifelsfall Midi-In Kabel rausziehen. This is a known bug and will be fixed in the next version. don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 13 05:09:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:10:25 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus sysex & QY-700 * From: Ronald Pieket >That's interesting -- how'd you fit the Virus OS into the QY700's RAM? I couldn't squeeze it in there for the life of me, and have been using Cakewalk on my PC to do the OS upgrades... You don't have to load it into the QY700's RAM. Just use the "preplay" option on the song load screen. This plays a midi file directly from disk without loading the thing whole. I have been using this facility as a kind of sound librarian for my JP8000 also - just select a file from the file list, press preplay, and hey presto. I was hoping to do the same with the Virus. - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 13 05:41:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:42:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus sysex & QY-700 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >You don't have to load it into the QY700's RAM. Just use the "preplay" option on the song load screen. This plays a midi file directly from disk without loading the thing whole. > Doh! Didn't think of that, but now you mention it of course it's obvious... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 14 07:13:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:12:03 -0700 Cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: QY700! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Once I get this working, I'd love to share some sounds I have made - if anyone is interested. I currently specialize in silky strings, subtle pads, and unusual percussion sounds. I found these missing, or too weak, in the factory sound set. >I'm also working on a phoneme set. With two parallel band pass filters, it might just be possible to make this box talk! Has anyone tried? > Sounds very, very interesting... I'm sure the access-list would like to know more about this as you progress, and maybe other Access Virus users would like to volunteer their thoughts on it? (This is a 'bridge' post, taking the thread over to the access-list from the qy-list...) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 14 07:54:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:31:07 -0700 Subject: Re: QY700! * From: Ronald Pieket I'm still having trouble sending sounds from the QY to the Virus. I noticed that if I play the same file many times, eventually all sounds arrive. There seems to be a correlation with the midi clock signal. If I disable it on the QY, almost (but not quite) all sounds arrive first time. Have other QY700 owners had more success? Once I get this working, I'd love to share some sounds I have made - if anyone is interested. I currently specialize in silky strings, subtle pads, and unusual percussion sounds. I found these missing, or too weak, in the factory sound set. I'm also working on a phoneme set. With two parallel band pass filters, it might just be possible to make this box talk! Has anyone tried? - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 14 12:48:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:47:34 +0200 Subject: talking virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:31 AM +0200 on 14.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I'm also working on a phoneme set. With two parallel band pass filters, it might just be possible to make this box talk! Has anyone tried? No I haven't but I'd like to try. I am very interested in things like that. On one of those magazine cover CDs there was a demo of a yamaha synth that probably was using a formant filter. It sounded very much alive. I would like to try stuff like this, but know only veray little about it all. So you have any sources? Ideas? first experiences? My first idea would be to start with that "wob wob" TB-303 sound, the one that sounds like an angry animal and try to get this to sound more like a friendly human...;) don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 14 14:08:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:42:22 +0200 Subject: MIDI-Express XT * From: Martin Zuther Karsten Grosse (Grossin@aol.com) aus Berlin schrieb am 30.4.98 um 7:23 Uhr: Ich kriege meinen VIRUS einfach nicht über MIDI mit LOGIC AUDIO (auf PC) gesynct. Der VIRUS-Arpeggiator läuft immer scneller als das im VIRUS und in LOGIC eingestellte Tempo (auch wenn beide identisch sind) und außerdem hängt das Timing. Was mache ich falsch? p.s.:Ich benutze als MIDI-Interface ein MOTU-MIDI-Express XT. (The VIRUS is not in sync with LOGIC AUDIO (PC), especially the arpeggiator is running much too fast (even though the tempo is the same in both LOGIC and VIRUS. The used MIDI-Interface is a MOTU-MIDI-Express XT.) I found this problem on the Virus-Wishlist, and I solved the problem a few weeks ago. The problem is the MIDI-Express in connection with LOGIC. The MIDI-Express transmits MIDI-Clock it receives on one channel to all channels. LOGIC sends MIDI-Clock to all 16x8 MIDI-Express-Channels or at least to every single "MIDI-Interface" within the MIDI-Express. So any MIDI-Device receives at leat 8 MIDI-Clock-Bytes instead of one, so you can't speak of timing any more. The solution is: File/Song Settings/MIDI-Options contains a box called "Transmit MIDI-Clock". This should remain checked, otherwise you won't get any MIDI-Clock at all. But there is a box behind saying "All Ports". Set it to one port of the MIDI-Express (for instance "MXPXT: Out 1"). The only problem that could occur afterwards could be: you want to transmit MIDI-Clock to another MIDI-Interface, too. Sorry, not possible. There could also be some problems with certain MIDI-Setups in the MIDI-Express. If you encounter these, just try another setup. You can also get mine which DO work. You send ma an Email. Hope I could help you, Martin Zuther mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 15 00:26:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:22:46 EDT Subject: Re: MIDI-Express XT * From: WYDMusic@aol.com In a message dated 7/14/98 5:08:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, access- list@tl36.teklab.com writes: << access-list@tl36.teklab.com >> I am having a similar problem with Cubase. I am using the Midi Express PC, not the XT. I have VST configured to only send Midi Clock to the virus channel. Additionally, certain sounds on the virus in multi mode end up "sticking" as if it is not seeing a note off value about 20% of the time when I press stop...the only way to fix it is to do a full power cycle. The arpegiattor problem is that it "floats" in and out of sync. This obviously does me no good. Same with the LFO and delay. Hellllp! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 15 21:17:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:59:56 -0700 Cc: cs1x-list@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, fatman-l@teklab.com Subject: Downtime for TekLab -- 8 hours. * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Wanted to let you all know that TekLab will be down from now (1am Pacific Standard Time) until about 9am in the morning. I've got about 5 minutes to finish propagating this message... This is due to scheduled maintenance by the local power company to fix a broken line that blew up in the heat a few weeks ago. Nothing I can do about it, short of renting a big-ass generator, and that ain't gonna happen. They're taking out this city block and the surrounding ones too. Hope they work fast. So I bid you all good night for a few hours, and promise to return TekLab to it's long-uptime glory in the morning. Good night all! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 15 21:57:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:44:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Musical excerpts on your site * From: "Martin Selway" Do you have .WAV, AIFF, MP3, Real Audio, etc, examples of your own muscal creations on your webpage? Excerpts from your CD,s, demos, concerts, etc? In connection with some research, I'm trying to get an idea of what can be found. I don't mean Sony, Warner, etc, but from the scene around these mailing lists, synths, electronic music, etc:) Send me a link if you have time, Thanks, mase@post5.tele.dk http://home5.inet.tele.dk/mase ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 15 21:29:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:39:51 +0200 Subject: Re: MIDI-Express XT * From: Martin Zuther >I am having a similar problem with Cubase. I am using the Midi Express PC, not the XT. I have VST configured to only send Midi Clock to the virus channel. Additionally, certain sounds on the virus in multi mode end up "sticking" as if it is not seeing a note off value about 20% of the time when I press stop...the only way to fix it is to do a full power cycle. Which system are you using? The Virus did the same when I used an older system with monophonic sounds. Since I installed 1.54 the problem seems to be fixed. >The arpegiattor problem is that it "floats" in and out of sync. This obviously does me no good. Same with the LFO and delay. I dont't know anything about LFO and delay, but I encountered the same problem. The arpeggiator seems to be in sync for some seconds and afterwards runs out of time. The only solution I see would be to record the arpeggiators MIDI-Data and switch of the arpeggiator - not my idea of experimenting around... If anyone has the same problems but uses another MIDI-Interface - please tell me, so I don't wast my time searching for a bug in my system that does not exist. Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 10:59:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:41:31 +0200 Subject: Re: Musical excerpts on your site * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:44 PM +0200 on 15.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: "Martin Selway" > >Do you have .WAV, AIFF, MP3, Real Audio, etc, examples of your own muscal creations on your webpage? Excerpts from your CD,s, demos, concerts, etc? Interesting, who are you researching for? Record companies who fear illegal reproduction of their property? If you are looking for that I'll have to disappoint you, but for other purposes, look at http://www.waf80.de/nomono and http://www.waf80.de/fact don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 09:47:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:43:17 +0200 Subject: Cakewalk + Virus * From: Erich.Wehmeyer@SANLAM.CO.ZA Does any1 know WHY you can't load the OS with Cakewalk? If it is something like MTC, then one should be able to filter that out with something like MIDI THRUWAY or Hubi's Loopback... .e ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 18:09:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:11:30 +0000 Subject: Virus and Galaxy * From: monokrom@sirius.com Has anyone been able to save Multi's and send them back to Virus with Galaxy successfully? -Monokromed ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 14:30:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:29:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: Musical excerpts on your site * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com >Interesting, who are you researching for? Record companies who fear illegal >reproduction of their property? I suspect that Mister Selway is not researching this for a record company: He is a regular contributor to Sound on Sound UK magazine. So send him your sites, and he just may publish them is Europe's Largest Music Technology Magazine. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 15:01:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:02:07 +0200 Subject: RE: Musical excerpts on your site * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:29 PM +0200 on 16.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I suspect that Mister Selway is not researching this for a record company: He is a regular contributor to Sound on Sound UK magazine. So send him your sites, and he just may publish them is Europe's Largest Music Technology Magazine. I didn't really think he was a spy, just like to know what he was all about, cause it sounded intersting... don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 17:40:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:40:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: Ronald Pieket Erich.Wehmeyer wrote: >Does any1 know WHY you can't load the OS with Cakewalk? If it is something like >MTC, then one should be able to filter that out with something like MIDI THRUWAY or Hubi's Loopback... Can you sucessfully send sysex data (for example, a sound bank) from Cakewalk to the Virus? I, too, would like to know what the problem is. Access blame Cakewalk. Yet Cakewalk works with every other piece of equipment, doesn't it? I'd like to take stock of the sequencers which the Virus does not entirely work with. So far on the "partly or completely incompatible" list are: 1) Cakewalk (problem reported by Access) 2) Multimedia player (problem reported by Access) 3) QY700 (problem reported by myself) And possibly also: 4) Logic Audio + Midi Express (problem reported by WYDMusic) On the "100% compatible" list: 1) Cubase Score ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 18:05:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: visnick@mail.europa.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:58:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: Marc Visnick At 08:40 AM 7/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: Ronald Pieket Can you sucessfully send sysex data (for example, a sound bank) from Cakewalk to the Virus? >I, too, would like to know what the problem is. Access blame Cakewalk. Yet Cakewalk works with every other piece of equipment, doesn't it? Strange... I've had no problems sending OS updates and sound banks to the Virus using Cakewalk 6.0. I wonder if there's some hardware-dependent bug (i.e., how one's computer is configured) involved? What does Access say about this? -Marc Visnick visnick@europa.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 20:27:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:04:48 -0700 Cc: monokrom@sirius.com Subject: Re: Galaxy and Virus * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 09:09 AM 7/16/98 +0000, you wrote: >Has anyone been able to save Multi's send them back with Galaxy successfully? >-Monokromed > Good question. Anyone? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 20:39:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:31:09 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:40:14 -0700, access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I, too, would like to know what the problem is. Access blame Cakewalk. Yet Cakewalk works with every other piece of equipment, doesn't it? No. Cakewalk will not update the OS of my Roland VS-880 or my Waldorf Microwave II. It's related to the way that it handles packets of sysex embedded in song files. This has been explained several times on the Waldorf list but I'm afraid I didn't keep the info. I simply tried it with my VS-880, it didn't work so I used Cubase from then on. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 20:31:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:32:18 -0700 Subject: No no! Was Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Can you sucessfully send sysex data (for example, a sound bank) from Cakewalk to the Virus? >I, too, would like to know what the problem is. Access blame Cakewalk. Yet Cakewalk works with every other piece of equipment, doesn't it? > >I'd like to take stock of the sequencers which the Virus does not entirely work with. > >So far on the "partly or completely incompatible" list are: >1) Cakewalk (problem reported by Access) Works flawlessly for me. I've upgraded my Virus OS 3 times with it successfully each time, and even did another access-list subscribers Virus with it too. >3) QY700 (problem reported by myself) Absolutely works flawlessly for me, though I haven't done an OS upgrade with it yet. Or are you talking exclusively about sysex? In which case, I do not know. I think you're talking about just SYSEX, though. Because if not, I have no idea what the hell I'm doing but both of these sequencers work perfectly for me and Cakewalk does the OS upgrade without any problem whatsoever. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 16 22:33:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:25:59 +0200 Subject: Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:31 PM +0200 on 16.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >It's related to the way that it handles packets of sysex embedded in song files. This has been explained several times on the Waldorf list but I'm afraid I didn't keep the info. I simply tried it with my VS-880, it didn't work so I used Cubase from then on. thanks for the info, hope this helps to stop some of the insinuated rumours creeping up on this list... don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 17 10:37:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:46:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Musical excerpts on your site * From: "Martin Selway" Not exactly. It all started when someone asked me.......what type of music can you hear on the net? Well, I'm getting some idea now:) When links stop flowing in I'll try and put them all on my homepage, no references just a list of links. Which is basiclly what I'm listening my way through. MARTIN -----Original Message----- From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 16. juli 1998 14:35 Subject: RE: Musical excerpts on your site >* From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com > >>Interesting, who are you researching for? Record companies who fear >illegal >>reproduction of their property? > >I suspect that Mister Selway is not researching this for a record company: He is a regular contributor to Sound on Sound UK magazine. So send him your sites, and he just may publish them is Europe's Largest Music Technology Magazine. > >Jim >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 17 01:54:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fre, 17 Jul 98 01:57:17 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: Marc Schlaile i think there's no reason why a modern sequencer should refuse to work with the virus since the virus as no special in the sysex protocol. at least this should be true if nearly every other keyboard works with the sequencer. ok- talking about a multimedia player which was programmed for a total different environment there can be errors. most of the problems can be solved by disabling the incomming midi stream (so the sequencer hasn't have to merge or buffer anything) and/or lower the tempo of the transmission. for example logic/logic audio + midiexpress XT works fine at our demo mac and -be sure- we updated quiet a lot of viruses meanwhile. regards, marc >Can you sucessfully send sysex data (for example, a sound bank) from >Cakewalk to the Virus? >I, too, would like to know what the problem is. Access blame Cakewalk. Yet Cakewalk works with every other piece of equipment, doesn't it? > >I'd like to take stock of the sequencers which the Virus does not entirely work with. > >So far on the "partly or completely incompatible" list are: >1) Cakewalk (problem reported by Access) >2) Multimedia player (problem reported by Access) >3) QY700 (problem reported by myself) >And possibly also: >4) Logic Audio + Midi Express (problem reported by WYDMusic) > >On the "100% compatible" list: >1) Cubase Score ................................................................... | production | arrangement | remix | sounddesign | music publisher | ................................................................... babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 17 06:09:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:10:39 -0700 Subject: Re: No no! Was Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: Ronald Pieket >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >>3) QY700 (problem reported by myself) > >Absolutely works flawlessly for me, though I haven't done an OS upgrade with it yet. Or are you talking exclusively about sysex? In which case, I do not know. Yes, I'm talking about sysex, the note events and controllers work fine. Sysex between the QY-700 and the Virus does not. At least not here. If this combination works for you, I would love to find out what is different between our systems. Perhaps there is something I should set up differently? I have tried everything I could think of: midi clock on/off, tempo as low as it will go (25bmp), increased the interval between data blocks to 900 ms, disconnected the midi out from the Virus, tried all "midi dump rx" settings on the Virus... did I miss anything? - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 17 07:11:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:02:55 +1000 Subject: Testing: ignore --0__=2TVAJAAohlwM857u46WYTvqZ9SCII4GfHFt30D1ftlcKxKPr0V9ztAn4 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Additional Header Information: Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au ([192.168.11.2]) by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 4A256644.0018EA98; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:32:05 +1000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA25410 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:32:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from access-list@tl36.teklab.com) From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Received: from mail.aipo.gov.au(202.14.186.176) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma025402; Fri, 17 Jul 98 14:31:56 +1000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by hermes.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA19326 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:31:56 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(207.215.53.36) by hermes.aipo.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma019320; Fri, 17 Jul 98 14:31:45 +1000 Received: from tl36.teklab.com (mail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA27751; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:12:39 -0700 Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Errors-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Message-ID: <35AEC12B.BeroList-2.5.8@tl36.teklab.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:10:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <35ADA2CB.BeroList-2.5.8@tl36.teklab.com> <35AE39E4.BeroList-2.5.8@tl36.teklab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No no! Was Re: Cakewalk + Virus --------------------------------- (Embedded image moved to file: pic20490.pcx) * From: Ronald Pieket >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >>3) QY700 (problem reported by myself) > >Absolutely works flawlessly for me, though I haven't done an OS upgrade with it yet. Or are you talking exclusively about sysex? In which case, I >do not know. Yes, I'm talking about sysex, the note events and controllers work fine. Sysex between the QY-700 and the Virus does not. At least not here. If this combination works for you, I would love to find out what is different between our systems. Perhaps there is something I should set up differently? I have tried everything I could think of: midi clock on/off, tempo as low as it will go (25bmp), increased the interval between data blocks to 900 ms, disconnected the midi out from the Virus, tried all "midi dump rx" settings on the Virus... did I miss anything? - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! --0__=2TVAJAAohlwM857u46WYTvqZ9SCII4GfHFt30D1ftlcKxKPr0V9ztAn4 Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="pic20490.pcx" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pic20490.pcx" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 CgMBAQAAAAA/AgMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABSAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADl/9L/yf/F/8L/geUA0gDJAMUAAAGE5QDSAMkAxQAAAcHw5f/S/8n/xf/C /7g= --0__=2TVAJAAohlwM857u46WYTvqZ9SCII4GfHFt30D1ftlcKxKPr0V9ztAn4-- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 17 16:17:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:23:46 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Virus and Galaxy * From: Guenther Albrecht look at: www.pan.com/saliter/virus.htm Multi is shit - look at the implementation docs & you will see. dumping multis has no use. but there is an alternative - Arrangement Patchtype I created this one to store complete performance setups - the Multi parameters in the edit buffer and all parameters from 16 Single edit buffers. So you can dump a whole setup for future use that will work even if some singles have been deleted meanwhile. It also may be helpful to tweak sounds and dump them with that changes without storing it over the original version. Best used for making libraries... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 17 18:35:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:37:01 +0000 Subject: Re: Virus and Galaxy * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >look at: >www.pan.com/saliter/virus.htm >Multi is shit - look at the implementation docs & you will see. dumping multis has no use. but there is an alternative - Arrangement Patchtype >I created this one to store complete performance setups - the Multi parameters in the edit buffer and all parameters from 16 Single edit buffers. So you can dump a whole setup for future use that will work even if some singles have been deleted meanwhile. It also may be helpful to tweak sounds and dump them with that changes without storing it over the original version. Best used for making libraries... > >********** ********** Many thanks to Guenther!!!!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 02:41:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:38:27 +0000 Subject: SD/Mac Virus * From: Rich Mergner Hello, Is anyone working with Sounddiver/Mac and their Virus 1.54? I cannot not send data(transmit) a sound or bank to the my Virus using SD 2.04. The request works fine. SD midi monitor displays the data as its transmitted. What I am I missing to initiate the request on the Virus? Could someone give instructions on this procedure? thanks, Rich Mergner richjm@erols.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 08:23:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:24:19 +0000 Subject: Re: SD/Mac Virus access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Rich Mergner > >Hello, > >Is anyone working with Sounddiver/Mac and their Virus 1.54? I cannot not send data(transmit) a sound or bank to the my Virus using SD 2.04. The request works fine. SD midi monitor displays the data as its transmitted. What I am I missing to initiate the request on the Virus? Could someone give instructions on this procedure? > >thanks, > >Rich Mergner >richjm@erols.com Rich, here's a attachment that I got from an Emagic Engineer named: Sascha. Or get it from: skujawa@mail.emagic.de Goodluck, It's been working fine for me thus far, though at bit tricky to figure out. -Monokromed Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-mac-type="454D3746"; x-mac-creator="454D4136"; name="VIRUS" Content-Description: SoundDiver 2.0.5r1 Document Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VIRUS" Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:VIRUS (EM7F/EMA6) (00009391)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 18:03:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 18 Jul 1998 09:18:00 +0200 Subject: .SYX? * From: Skwit@le-line.net (Christian Wiesner) Hi! I found some patches for the virus in a *.syx-File. Which program do I have to use to read files like this? Bye, Chrissi ..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? ## CrossPoint v3.11 R ## ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 16:53:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:55:01 +0000 Subject: Re: SD/Mac Virus * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 1:24 AM +0200 on 18.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >>Rich, here's a attachment that I got from an Emagic Engineer named: Sascha. > >Thanks for posting, this thing is also on my website in the "Utilities" section of the Download section. There you also find a link to the EMAGIC page where you can download the current version of the final adaptation/module. > >This thing Sascha makes available as a non-official, sort of beta test. Apparently it works fine, but keep looking for update if you run into problems. > >(about the attachment: usually it is not common usage to post attachments to entire mailing lists. A lot of people on this list probably don't use SoundDiver, also a lot don't even use a mac at all. I guess 28K won't kill anyone's mail account just yet, but please everybody be aware that it is much better to publicly point to a site on the web than to post even small things to entire lists of people. Keeps traffic low for everyone. After all, most people in Europe pay for their local phone bill or even for their Internet access by the minute. thus a few attachments of 30K each *can* make a difference.. >Thanks for understanding.) > >don't blow your top, > >Canine Does the song: "Tax Man" come to mind? I didn't know that fact about the Euro's...sorry! -Monokromed ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 12:58:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:00:57 +0200 Subject: Re: SD/Mac Virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:24 AM +0200 on 18.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Rich, here's a attachment that I got from an Emagic Engineer named: Sascha. Thanks for posting, this thing is also on my website in the "Utilities" section of the Download section. There you also find a link to the EMAGIC page where you can download the current version of the final adaptation/module. This thing Sascha makes available as a non-official, sort of beta test. Apparently it works fine, but keep looking for update if you run into problems. (about the attachment: usually it is not common usage to post attachments to entire mailing lists. A lot of people on this list probably don't use SoundDiver, also a lot don't even use a mac at all. I guess 28K won't kill anyone's mail account just yet, but please everybody be aware that it is much better to publicly point to a site on the web than to post even small things to entire lists of people. Keeps traffic low for everyone. After all, most people in Europe pay for their local phone bill or even for their Internet access by the minute. thus a few attachments of 30K each *can* make a difference.. Thanks for understanding.) don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 12:51:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:50:10 +0200 Subject: Re: Cakewalk + Virus * From: Martin Zuther >for example logic/logic audio + midiexpress XT works fine at our demo mac and -be sure- we updated quiet a lot of viruses meanwhile. > >regards, marc For you seem to use the MIDIEXPRESS heavily: did you encounter that the virus runs out of sync (arpeggiator, delay via MIDI-Clock) after some time (using Logic audio)? Any solutions yet? And is there someone who can tell me s.th. about Emagics SoundDiver Windows (maybe directly to mzuther@bigfoot.de so not to bother anyone on this list)? Is it useful and (of course) does it work with the Virus? Thanks, Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 13:23:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:26:11 +0200 Subject: Virus Site guestbook * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Dear list, a while ago I had the idea to add a regular guestbook to the Virus site, hoping that people would be willing to write a bit about themselves and their usage of the Virus. Apparently this is not the case. While this kind of info is still wanted on the guestbook page, I have now added a comment about other things the guestbook could be used for. The most important thing is this: If you are going to play live *and use a virus doing it* please feel free to advertise date, time, venue and cover charge, so other Virus users can come and watch you use and abuse your Virus. of course all continents are acceptable. For this reason, please don't forget to mention the country your playing in... keep those dates coming...! (to post to the guestbook, please use the URL in the list signature and from there click on (alas!) "Guestbook"... thanks don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 13:27:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:29:27 +0200 Subject: Edit buffer * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hey, I just realized that the virus keeps its edit buffer even when it is switched off...! After turning it off last night, I realized that I hadn't saved the last sound I had done. No big deal I thought, but sorta sad anyway. Now I realize it's still there. Great! don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 18:17:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:15:50 +0200 Subject: Europhonerates * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:55 AM +0200 on 18.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Does the song: "Tax Man" come to mind? I didn't know that fact about the Euro's...sorry! Well at least in Germany they finally allowed some competition and with pong distance calls there is a lot of money to be saved if you shop around. As for local calls -- since there is hardly any competition at all (too expensive to get lines into people's houses) nothing has happened to the prices so far. I would be so glad to be able to pay a flat fee for local calls or something like that... sigh... stoneage... don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 18:17:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:17:23 +0200 Subject: Virus randomizer Environment * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I am working on a Logic environment to randomize sounds on the Virus. does anyone have any ideas what else it should be able to do? thanks for suggestions... don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 18:31:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:39:30 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Virus randomizer Environment * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net hey this is cool canine!!!! that alone would be awesome!!!! no way christoph could incude in the op system though eeh??????? how about the ability to select the level of randomization??? weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >I am working on a Logic environment to randomize sounds on the Virus. does anyone have any ideas what else it should be able to do? > >thanks for suggestions... > >don't blow your top, > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 19:39:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:35:23 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus randomizer Environment * From: Martin Zuther >I am working on a Logic environment to randomize sounds on the Virus. does anyone have any ideas what else it should be able to do? I think it should be able to just randomize a definable range of parameters. Otherwise you'll end up with a randomizer as Prg. 00 of the Waldorf Pulse - and I never heard a useful voice out of that random section... Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 19:39:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:37:53 +0200 Subject: Re: Europhonerates * From: Martin Zuther >I would be so glad to be able to pay a flat fee for local calls or something like that... > >sigh... stoneage... At least they allow us to use modems. There were times when you could get some trouble using this sort of electronics (ach ja, die telekom...). Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 18 19:42:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:50:49 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Virus randomizer Environment * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i get tons of useful sounds from the pulse ransomizer!!!! great modular type sounds--dont under estimate this!! cheers weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Martin Zuther > >>I am working on a Logic environment to randomize sounds on the Virus. does anyone have any ideas what else it should be able to do? > >I think it should be able to just randomize a definable range of parameters. Otherwise you'll end up with a randomizer as Prg. 00 of the Waldorf Pulse - and I never heard a useful voice out of that random section... > >Martin >mzuther@bigfoot.de > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 02:36:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:35:19 EDT Subject: Re: MIDI-Express XT * From: WYDMusic@aol.com Not to beat a dead horse, just wanted to clarify...I finally upgraded to v1.54. It rocks. I DO NOT encounter timing erros on LFO or Delay anymore. I am still clearly having sync problems with the arpeggiator. Again, I'm using Cubase VST 3.55 and a MIDI Xpress PC. Is there a plan to fix the arp. problem in the next version? It is a very powerful effect and it would be nice to utilize it. Thanx in advance for all your help! Phat Simulated Regards, Darren Kramer ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 00:51:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Son, 19 Jul 98 00:53:45 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: SD/Mac Virus * From: Marc Schlaile >Rich, here's a attachment that I got from an Emagic Engineer named: Sascha. > >Or get it from: skujawa@mail.emagic.de > >Goodluck, It's been working fine for me thus far, though at bit tricky to figure out. > >-Monokromed monokromed, the next time, please send an attachment in a privat mail. i'm subscribed to this list but i'm not interested in a file you want to send to somebody else. marc ................................................................... | production | arrangement | remix | sounddesign | music publisher | ................................................................... babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 09:42:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:42:21 -0700 Subject: Controller speed * From: Ronald Pieket I noticed that when you send controller data, instead of immediately jumping to the new value, the Virus does a fast "sweep" instead. The controller equivalent of portamento. For example, go to the "start" patch (A127). Turn up the resonance to about 100. Program your sequencer to send two notes, one after the other. At the start of the first, send a single controller event, controller number 40 (filter 1 cut-off) value 47, and another at the start of the second note, controller number 40 value 73. When playing this data, I hear "ooo / whaa", instead of the intended "ooo / aaa". I can see why this was done: presumably this is to avoid noticable steps, or zipping, when tweaking controllers. In most cases, this is good. But in some cases, it is not. Is there a work around? A feature or a trick which I have missed? Is this one for the wish-list? - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 12:25:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:19:16 +0200 Organization: Stay Sane Media Subject: new version * From: Roland Guyt Hi all, I'm on the virge of getting Tha Red Beast and the salesman told me the price went up recently because of a new version. Is this true? I pay around $1430 now. The price I got before was $1400. Thanks, Roland ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 20 12:13:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:26:16 +0200 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: Martin Zuther At 00:42 19.07.98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: Ronald Pieket > >I noticed that when you send controller data, instead of immediately jumping to the new value, the Virus does a fast "sweep" instead. The controller equivalent of portamento. > >For example, go to the "start" patch (A127). Turn up the resonance to about 100. Program your sequencer to send two notes, one after the other. At the start of the first, send a single controller event, controller number 40 (filter 1 cut-off) value 47, and another at the start of the second note, controller number 40 value 73. When playing this data, I hear "ooo / whaa", instead of the intended "ooo / aaa". > >I can see why this was done: presumably this is to avoid noticable steps, or zipping, when tweaking controllers. In most cases, this is good. But in some cases, it is not. > >Is there a work around? A feature or a trick which I have missed? Is this one for the wish-list? I checked it out with Logic: the controller data must come at least 32 ms before the note event appears. Then you wont hear any sweeping. (Yes, I know - probably not the greatest thing because you have to edit a lot of controller-events. But if you just use this type of controller in a song and don't need any continuous controllers: just apply the 32 ms to your "controller track" in the sequencer). mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 20 12:12:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:30:12 +0200 Subject: Re: MIDI-Express XT * From: Martin Zuther >Not to beat a dead horse, just wanted to clarify...I finally upgraded to v1.54. It rocks. I DO NOT encounter timing erros on LFO or Delay anymore. I am still clearly having sync problems with the arpeggiator. Again, I'm using Cubase VST 3.55 and a MIDI Xpress PC. Is there a plan to fix the arp. problem >in the next version? It is a very powerful effect and it would be nice to utilize it. You should try something out: do NOT retrigger the arpeggiator, but trigger it once and use the arpeggiator-hold. and then just listen. As I tried that out there was not a single timing error in more than a hundred bars. But when you retrigger often, the virus tends to run out of time. mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 13:32:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:14:16 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus randomizer Environment * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:50 PM +0200 on 18.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >i get tons of useful sounds from the pulse ransomizer!!!! great modular type sounds--dont under estimate this!! cheers weld weld is right, it was his Pulse where I first heard that randomize function. The way I programmed it now is this: there are a few buttons for one parameter group each: LFO, AMP, Filter, OSC (incl noise and sub osc) and the ultimate Button for World Destruction, the one that changes everything. The setup is made in a way that you can then edit parameters on the Virus without creating further turmoil. There are no faders in this environment yet. I might add them later. I'll post it to the website later today and those with Logic can see for themselves. I'll try to document everything in a way that's foolproof...;) don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 13:32:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:19:29 +0200 Subject: Not really a "new version" * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:19 PM +0200 on 19.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >I'm on the virge of getting Tha Red Beast and the salesman told me the price went up recently because of a new version. Is this true? I pay around $1430 now. The price I got before was $1400. The price was raised in Germany as well. This "New Version" has no new features or anything, IU guess it is just for manufacturing costs, distribution costs, and everything else that the price has gone up. There have been no changes apart from the operating system updates. Before anyone starts copmlaining how unfair this is think of it this way: a manufacturer has to get his development costs back in a fairly short time. Thus sometimes it is smarter to put the introductory price a bit lower than the regular price should be to sell more units in a shorter time to get something for the investment he made. then, once the introductory period is over, or enough interest is created, the price goes up to normal. Perhaps this is what we are witnessing. Access hasn't told me anything about this of course, I am just speculating... don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 14:38:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 08:47:13 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: new version * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net you mean the virus??? you can get that much cheaper--$1250-1275??????? that sounds like a oile to me!!! weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jul 19 15:43:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:52:08 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: off topic: logic questions * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net well my attemps to sub to the logicd mailing list has been unsuccessful, so im hoping any logic users here can help. im trying to figure out how to set up instrument layers in the environment. so i could select one track and say have 2 virus sounds and a nord sound layered together and play and record them that way. also i have bought an atai st, for the resons of running some esoteric midi programs (m, realtime, analog sequencer simulator), what would be the best way to set up the environment so i could have the st data recored into logic and routed to certain synths from in there??? any help is much appreciated!!! p.s. sunday morning kraftwerk is a beautiful thing :-) weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 20 09:40:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:31:51 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: off topic: logic questions * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >im trying to figure out how to set up instrument layers in the environment. so i could select one track and say have 2 virus sounds and a nord sound layered together and play and record them that way. Just cable the output (little triangle) of first instrument to second one... Thats all... If you are using a multi-Instrument, create a seperate single instrument, name it "viruslayer" or whatever and plug to cables from its out into multiinstrument by holding a special key like Control or alt or whatever to select the corresponding subchannels... :) With greetings, Sascha... With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa Quality Assurance Manager Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 20 16:04:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:49:44 +0200 Subject: Another MIDI-Express XT * From: Martin Zuther >You should try something out: do NOT retrigger the arpeggiator, but trigger it once and use the arpeggiator-hold. and then just listen. As I tried that out there was not a single timing error in more than a hundred bars. But when you retrigger often, the virus tends to run out of time. mzuther@bigfoot.de Sorry, what I worte was wrong. The problem is that when listen to such an arpggiator you can't really make out if it's in time or not. I'm now testing the syny as follows: I use the sound "ARP KICK RP" (A88) plus a sequence of quarter-kickdrums from another synth. And after sometime (about 100 bars) you hear the two bass drums run apart. But I would like to know if this is a timing problem of Logic, the Virus or the MIDI-Express XT. So if someone out there could check HIS system out and tell me his experiences I'd be very grateful. Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 17:35:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:37:18 +0000 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: monokrom@sirius.com Bit the Bullet and buy a NEW Macintosh (G3). access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: OBOTA@aol.com > >Does any one out there still sequence with a work station keyboard such as the ASR-10, or is every body on PC's and Macs, constantly seeming to have all sorts of problems...Is it useless to buy a Virus if you will sequence it with a keyboard workstation, and have a computer but only limited computer power? Not Expecting a Reply... >Obota (Not In The Click) > >P.S. Actually more concerned with making music then the programming (can you believe it!) >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 11:26:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:25:46 EDT Subject: Re: Another MIDI-Express XT * From: WYDMusic@aol.com Thanx for your diligent help Martin. I agree, if there is anyone even w/o a MOTU who has managed to sync the arp. using VST and a PC, please let us know (and when i mean sync, i mean 16th or 32nd note arp. at 160BPM+, single note at least 16 bars long). That way, we could verify that it is not the virus. Stay Free! Darren Kramer wydmusic@aol.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 11:29:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 05:28:18 EDT Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: WYDMusic@aol.com that's all well and fine....but what if for instance you want to do hard 0-127 on volume control on alternating 32nd notes? Even my Yamaha FB01 responds to this correctly!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 14:58:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:56:17 EDT Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: OBOTA@aol.com Does any one out there still sequence with a work station keyboard such as the ASR-10, or is every body on PC's and Macs, constantly seeming to have all sorts of problems...Is it useless to buy a Virus if you will sequence it with a keyboard workstation, and have a computer but only limited computer power? Not Expecting a Reply... Obota (Not In The Click) P.S. Actually more concerned with making music then the programming (can you believe it!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 23:09:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:11:10 +0000 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: monokrom@sirius.com VERY TRUE. access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >At 08:56 AM 7/21/98 EDT, you wrote: >>* From: OBOTA@aol.com >>Does any one out there still sequence with a work station keyboard such as >the >>ASR-10, or is every body on PC's and Macs, constantly seeming to have all sorts of problems...Is it useless to buy a Virus if you will sequence it with a keyboard workstation, and have a computer but only limited computer power? > >Hell I haven't used a computer to make music in a couple of years -- I've been dedicated to hardware sequencers recently. I love the Yamaha QY700 - just sit down and start writing music - no e-mail, no netscape, no blue screens of death, no extensions to manage, etc. > >A great quality music production tool. Highly recommended for anyone that's getting too frustrated with using their computer and/or playing the catchup game just to run a piece of software... > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry >jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com >| la, calif. >Show the World Linux! >PAPT Member #00002 >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 02:39:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-ROUTED: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:40:40 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Dihm Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:50:08 +0000 Organization: White Cloud Productions Subject: Re: Workstations * From: Don Ihm I don't know what the hell you are talking about Big Mac Expensive, troubles..My computer cost about a grand and I use VST 3.5 with not much problems dihm ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 21:16:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:09:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 08:56 AM 7/21/98 EDT, you wrote: >* From: OBOTA@aol.com >Does any one out there still sequence with a work station keyboard such as the >ASR-10, or is every body on PC's and Macs, constantly seeming to have all sorts of problems...Is it useless to buy a Virus if you will sequence it with a keyboard workstation, and have a computer but only limited computer power? Hell I haven't used a computer to make music in a couple of years -- I've been dedicated to hardware sequencers recently. I love the Yamaha QY700 - just sit down and start writing music - no e-mail, no netscape, no blue screens of death, no extensions to manage, etc. A great quality music production tool. Highly recommended for anyone that's getting too frustrated with using their computer and/or playing the catchup game just to run a piece of software... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 21:16:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:09:36 -0700 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 08:37 AM 7/21/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From: monokrom@sirius.com > >Bit the Bullet and buy a NEW Macintosh (G3). > Eccch... What a horrifically un-glamorous solution. Get a QY700! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 23:13:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: visnick@mail.europa.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:21:29 -0700 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: Marc Visnick >At 08:56 AM 7/21/98 EDT, you wrote: >>* From: OBOTA@aol.com >>Does any one out there still sequence with a work station keyboard such as >the >>ASR-10, or is every body on PC's and Macs, constantly seeming to have all sorts of problems...Is it useless to buy a Virus if you will sequence it with >>a keyboard workstation, and have a computer but only limited computer power? For all its faults, I still use the K2000's built-in sequencer when I've just gotta get something down quick... actually, it works pretty well with the VIRUS. Sure as hell beats waiting 2+ minutes to cold-boot a Win95 system into Cakewalk... -Marc Visnick visnick@europa.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 23:53:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:16:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: "Howard Scarr" >that's all well and fine....but what if for instance you want to do hard 0-127 >on volume control on alternating 32nd notes? Even my Yamaha FB01 responds to >this correctly!!!! Use velocity instead. Or two channels with differing volumes. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 00:10:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:53:13 -0500 Subject: QY700 w/Virus * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Controller speed Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 7/21/98 12:09 PM * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 08:37 AM 7/21/98 +0000, you wrote: >* From: monokrom@sirius.com > >Bit the Bullet and buy a NEW Macintosh (G3). > >Eccch... What a horrifically un-glamorous solution. >Get a QY700! >j. I'm close to pulling the trigger and getting a QY700 myself. I want to use it with my virus as well. So, to QY700/Virus users: Do you use the QY700 in pattern mode or song mode or both? .advantages/disadvantages of either mode with virus? .any hanging notes when switching patterns? My friend recently purchased one and it seems pretty wikid. ..I'm just trying to figure out how to use it effectively with a virus. ..I like the pattern sequencer on my Quasimidi 309 and I would want to do similar things with virus/qy700 combination. any comments? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 21 23:56:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:55:28 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Workstations * From: "Howard Scarr" >Does any one out there still sequence with a work station keyboard such as the ASR-10, or is every body on PC's and Macs, constantly seeming to have all sorts of problems...Is it useless to buy a Virus if you will sequence it with a keyboard workstation, and have a computer but only limited computer power? As great as the ASR is (got 2 myself), the internal sequencer is best used (in live situations) to store MIDI data from other, much better editors e.g. one of the following: 1. Use an old sequencer program on your "limited power" computer! Costs next to nothing. 2. A *good* hardware sequencer (probably your best bet - or anyone else's for that matter) 3. An old Atari ST (Mega or STE) + Cubase 2.x - cheap and still works as well/badly as ever! 4. A big Mac + software of your choice. The most expensive option, and you also can get easily sidetracked. From what I've seen, no fewer problems than a Wintel PC. Personally, I'm using none of these, but a PC+Gina+VST. Unfortunately I'm tending to spend less time sending lots of MIDI to the Virus than playing around with freeware plug-ins etc. Sidetracked... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 01:22:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:21:46 -0700 Subject: Re: QY700 w/Virus * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Do you use the QY700 in pattern mode or song mode or both? > I use a combination. If I just want to jam around for a bit and record some tracks, I'll use Song mode. If I get parts that I like, I'll send them over to Pattern tracks (yes, you can do this on an individual track basis, very cool), then i'll add a few other Patterns to create the song. Then I'll go back to Song mode and construct songs with those newly created Patterns as backing tracks, build the whole song up that way. >.advantages/disadvantages of either mode with virus? > Pattern mode is definitely a good way to do live stuff -- just leave a Pattern playing, when you want to move on switch to other sections (A-F) of your pattern and/or mute/unmute different phrases within the Patterns. Problem is, there's a bit of a pause when you change to a different Pattern number -- so a bit of arpeggiation helps to get past this slight load period. That is, if you've used up all your Pattern parts (A-F) or phrases (a total of 99) and want to load up a new set, you go to another Pattern to do it. Of course, none of that happens in Song mode, though, it's totally seamless. >.any hanging notes when switching patterns? > Never had hanging note problems. If it ever occurred I'd suspect that a Note Off wasn't being sent... >My friend recently purchased one and it seems pretty wikid. > >..I'm just trying to figure out how to use it effectively with a virus. > There was a post on the a3k-list recently about how someone used it with their A3000 that might interest you - I'll see if I can dig it up and forward it to you. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 01:22:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:22:53 -0700 Subject: Live work with the QY700 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan This may be of interest to other Virus users -- sort of Off Topic (No virus content yet), but since we're on a "QY700 use with the Virus" thread, it's sorta relevant. j. >From: "miguel q" >Reply-To: qy-list@tl36.teklab.com >To: qy-list@tl36.teklab.com >Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:48:17 -0500 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Subject: Live work with the QY700 > >* List: qy-list@tl36.teklab.com > >I did a show last weekend using a QY700 as my centerpiece and then my Yamaha A3000 as my main sound source. I was curious how others utilized their QY700's in a live situation. > >I ended up using the Pattern mode of the QY700. I assigned certain tracks to output to external midi A channels only. > >Then I organized the user presets into groups. Say, 40-49 was all drums, 50-59 was all basslines. Then I set up each sound block A-H in order of sections of the song, G and H were usually builds or fills and then A-F were other portions of the song. Then during the actual show, I would use a specific block(A-H) and then bring in specific user patterns as I so felt. I liked this a lot because I could have one block playing with one bassline, then suddenly drop another bassline all together and then build the track to a totally different section. > >Of course, I did have to do some weird ambient loops, beats whenever I needed to change between Patterns as there is a slight delay, but this wasn't too bad. > >So my question is, have people tried using the Song mode for live stuff? I have considered trying this out too, but it seems like if I used the pattern section of song mode, I would have to duplicate patterns among the 64 stlyes. Upside is that the pattern transitions would all be seamless. > >My other idea is to use a 2nd QY700 with the first, have both in pattern mode, and either midi clock linked, or on the same tempo and then transition between sections that way. > >Miguel > > >miguelq@flash.net | lostrack - dallas, tx icq #5296752 | http://www.flash.net/~lostrack > >********** ********** >The Yamaha QY-series Sequencer mailing list is a free service of TekLab and is open to all members of the Internet community. Send mail to list-help@teklab.com for assistance with this list, particularly if you wish to unsubscribe. > j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 17:22:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:24:12 +0000 Subject: Re: quotation rules * From: monokrom@sirius.com In kind, if I understand what you're getting at here is that people are rambling on or unable to get to the "point" in an efficient manner. Well, what happened to "Style" and Individuality? Robots we are not. Of course, if I'm off base here or don't know what I'm taking about than pardon me. -Monokromed P.S. I would like to think that most of us are sophisticated enough to read through the rhetoric in a hasty manner. access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Dear friends on this list, > >I reealize lately there are a lot of postings that contain little new content but quote long sections of or even the entire previous posting that was replied to. > >Please be a bit more specific when quoting content. If you are unsure how to do this, do us and yourself a favour and refer to the famous usenet primer "The Netiquette" that details nicely how to work with public postings in a more effective matter. > >I suggest going to yahoo and looking up netiquette or you could just browse to the Computers:Internet:Email section and find numerous other documents about "more effective Email" and topics like that.. > >thank you for your consideration. > >don't blow your top, > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 12:06:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:00:13 +0200 Subject: quotation rules * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Dear friends on this list, I reealize lately there are a lot of postings that contain little new content but quote long sections of or even the entire previous posting that was replied to. Please be a bit more specific when quoting content. If you are unsure how to do this, do us and yourself a favour and refer to the famous usenet primer "The Netiquette" that details nicely how to work with public postings in a more effective matter. I suggest going to yahoo and looking up netiquette or you could just browse to the Computers:Internet:Email section and find numerous other documents about "more effective Email" and topics like that.. thank you for your consideration. don't blow your top, Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 14:41:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:41:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: Controller speed * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com With regards to the QY700: When I was visiting Headspace in San Mateo, Thomas Dolby had one on his desk - it's his preferred tool as well. I was a QX5 freak years ago: I actually could use that cryptic bastard. But in 1988 I switched to MOTU Performer, and have been there ever since. Part of the problem I used to have with hardware sequencers: Not enough midi channels. With Performer and a MTP, I have 128 channels, on 8 cables. Using old midi hardware that all wants to use OMNI or CH1, or has no THRU, I needed the channels. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 16:22:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:17:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Workstations * From: crazyjon I use my MC303 as as my live sequencer for my virus. I write all my patterns in cubase VST on my PC, and then dump the patterns into the MC303 so I can take it on the road. CrazyJon Master of Digital Chicanery 1/4 RTFM access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Howard Scarr" > >>Does any one out there still sequence with a work station keyboard such as the ASR-10, or is every body on PC's and Macs, constantly seeming to have all sorts of problems...Is it useless to buy a Virus if you will sequence it with a keyboard workstation, and have a computer but only limited computer power? > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 17:34:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:33:49 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: quotation rules * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com Monokrom wrote: >In kind, if I understand what you're getting at here is that people are rambling on or unable to get to the "point" in an efficient manner. I think that the issue has more to do with simply replying to messages, leaving the whole message intact, and putting a small point at the end like "Yeah". If the post is original, ramble on! If you're replying to a message, only quote the relevant stuff. Not too difficult. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 22 14:33:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 1:35:59 BST Priority: normal Subject: At Last! * From: The Virus has landed (to mix a metaphor!) After a 3 1/2 month wait it finally arrived last Thursday. What an excellent little machine! I've spent virtually every free moment playing and programming it - addicted or what! Exact Minimoog imitations are problematic but this is somehow missing the point, there is so much else it can do. See you later - must get back to that Virus. Steve (N-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 23 05:53:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:01:30 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Virus randomizer Environment * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net still doin this kai???? havnt seen anything weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 23 06:55:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:53:49 EDT Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: WYDMusic@aol.com Velocity only effects note ons. And i'm sorry, but it really should support this feature. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 23 12:44:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:42:20 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus randomizer Environment * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:01 AM +0200 on 23.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >still doin this kai???? >havnt seen anything yes, I have had some new ideas, that I haven't finished implementing. I will post to the list when it is done, sorry about the delay... I want to make this a little more interesting than the thing I built last weekend. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 23 23:55:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 23:41:10 +0200 Subject: Off topic * From: Martin Zuther Hi guys. I'm using Terratecs EWS64XL. My beloved brother took the cables out, and as I plugged them back in the audio-level of my mixer deminished by more than 40bB! It took me some days to think of checking the cable positions and I found out that I connected the INPUT of the EWS64XL to the INPUT of the mixer. But I got a lot of signal from the soundcard into the mixer... (I mean it was about 4dB less than normal, so that's why I supposed the error to be somewhere else) What I'm now asking myself is: how come??? I think there are some technicians out there, and I'm really interested to know what happened. It can't be what they call overtalking... Thanks, Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 24 06:31:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 21:32:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: Ronald Pieket >>I noticed that when you send controller data, instead of immediately jumping to the new value, the Virus does a fast "sweep" instead. The controller equivalent of portamento. [snip] > >I checked it out with Logic: the controller data must come at least 32 ms before the note event appears. [snip] Ah, but I was hoping to team the Virus with a Doepfer MAQ16/3 or Regelwerk. However the problem as described (controller response latency) pretty much rules that out. I don't think (can anyone confirm this?) that you can shift the tracks on either of these things relative to each other. For those of you not in the know: the MAQ16/3 is an analog-style sequencer, with 3 rows of 16 knobs, allowing you to directly edit three tracks of a 16-step sequence. You can set these tracks up to send midi notes or midi controller data or both, so each note can have a unique filter frequency, resonance, FM amount, LFO modulation, etc. But with the controller latency on the Virus, it would sound very messy. This set back is (still) not enough to send me back to computer based sequencing. It may, on the other hand, be enough for me to add a Nord Lead Rack, or Microwave to my collection. I would, of course, first have to find out about the controller response time on the Nord and Microwave. Does anyone know? - Ronald. PS. Sorry for the late reaction, I've been away. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 24 10:06:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:07:06 +0200 Organization: COMPAREX Sistemas Inform·ticos. Subject: ARP KCK RP * From: Roman Vargas Sierra Hello all, I've just received my VIRUS (after 'only' three months) and I've found a little problem with a factory preset, when I use the A88 ARP KCK RP preset (a bassdrum) it doesn't play all the notes. Maybe this is related to a hiden parameter but I'm unable to find it. Any suggestions? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 24 10:39:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:40:05 +0200 Subject: FWD: Nord Micro Modular * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Here is something I feel many of you would want to know about. It's a forward from another list, so some of you may have heard about it: > >I got this article from >http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/SNAMM98/Clavia/MicroModular.html > >Can anyone confirm or deny this? Did anyone see this at summer NAMM? Sounds rather attractive especially for the price. For those with Nord Modulars already how much is possible using only 1/4 of the Modular's power? Please reply privately if you feel this is off topic. > >Thanks >Shehryar > > >Clavia Introduces MicroModular Synthesizer > >At NAMM, Clavia introduced the "MicroModular". The unit is essentially a Nord Modular with a single DSP inside. The cabinet is smaller, and has only 4 knobs (1 master volume and 3 programmable) With a MSRP of $900, it should be on the market in October of 1998. >The MicroModular is fully patch compatible with the Nord Modular. Patches designed on the "Big Machine" can be dropped on the "Little Machine" and vice-versa. Expect a maximum polyphony of four voices with the MicroModular. >The machine is setup much like the Nord Modular, with 2 analog inputs, 1 stereo output, and a headphone jack. >The machine comes in at a price point where it may just become the most powerful audio twister around (not having delay lines and reverbs is an issue though). But more importantly, this box could be a great way to get the power and felxibility of Nord Modular without having to spend as much cash. >Thanks to Andrew Tinton for providing this story. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 25 00:28:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:32:08 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: ARP KCK RP * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net well i dont have this preset anymore, my virus is 85 peogrammed by me now, but my guess is the keyboard tracking is turned low for one part of the keybaord, or if your hearing the same sound across the keyboard, it is probally a high res self oscillating sound-that does not use the oscillators-play with the res and filter setting or add some osc volume to make the sound play pitched accross the keyboard weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Roman Vargas Sierra > >Hello all, > >I've just received my VIRUS (after 'only' three months) and I've found a little problem with a factory preset, when I use the A88 ARP KCK RP preset (a bassdrum) it doesn't play all the notes. Maybe this is related to a hiden parameter but I'm unable to find it. > >Any suggestions? > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jul 25 00:30:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:39:12 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net >This set back is (still) not enough to send me back to computer based sequencing. It may, on the other hand, be enough for me to add a Nord Lead Rack, or Microwave to my collection. I would, of course, first have to find out about the controller response time on the Nord and Microwave. Does anyone know? > >- Ronald. a waldorf pulse (pulses) is perfect for this!!! weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 00:15:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:15:49 -0700 Subject: Test, Ignore * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 01:19:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 98 01:33:52 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: lost Bank B-Sounds again.... ACCESS - it is reality - do something!!! * From: Raymund Beyer Hi list, O.K. I have lost the most of my B-bank sounds again. I think its the 5th time now. Using OS 1.54. On my machine its allways the sound-input that is set to illegal on the affected sounds. Well, I can get them back, but its a feeling like working with Windows.... - Dear Access team: if this is a hardware problem, please confirm this! My Virus is about 5 months old. If I wont recieve a confirmation I´ll give the ´machine back to my dealer. I´m loosing my humour about this problem. During a studio-session its no fun reconstructing sounds getting lost like this! - If its a software problem - fix it! I know there are still some machines out there, that have the same problem. Please send me private mail to collect similar problems with the bank B sounds.... Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer | brainray@real-net.de http://members.xoom.com/brainray | H1, 1-2 Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | 68159 Mannheim Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 17:29:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:30:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: Ronald Pieket >* From: >I can appreciate that this "controller response latency" is annoying for you in your particular situation but it has to be said that this data smoothing is one of the coolest things about the virus since it erradicates zipper noise. I know. But it is making the Virus pretty much useless in combination pattern sequencers like the Doepfer Regelwerk and MAQ. It would be utterly brilliant if this feature could be switched on/off by the user as needed. Perhaps in a future version of the operating system? - Ronald. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 19:22:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:23:11 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: wishlist * From: Dimitri Sijperda I was wondering when the wishes on the wishlist come true. (URL: http://www-db.muenster.org/buch/index.cfm?buch=virus-wishlist ) Or which of the wishes will never come true, or which are to come true, and at what OS release. And of course this goes especially for my own submitted wishes! :) Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science Kamer J0-020, AMC Meibergdreef 15 1105 AZ Amsterdam ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 20:13:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:16:06 +0200 Subject: Re: wishlist * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:23 PM +0200 on 27.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Dimitri Sijperda > >I was wondering when the wishes on the wishlist come true. (URL: http://www-db.muenster.org/buch/index.cfm?buch=virus-wishlist ) Or which of the wishes will never come true, or which are to come true, and at what OS release. Well, only one thing is certain, Access reads the list on a regular basis and comments on them to me when needed. They know about the wishlist and rest assured they are integrating as many of those wishes as they can. I don't know about this part really, but I assume they are holding back major new features until all (all!) bugs are swiped from the current version of the OS. Which would be a great plan, I think. Some features can't be done in the Virus as it is right now becuase of limitations in hardware or architecture (i.e. arpeggiator lines can't be stored for single sounds, so even if you play them using the hold-pedal trick and the "AsPlayed" option, you will never be able to save those lines with the sound.) So for things like this we will have to wait for the next machine Access will make for us. (I doubt that it will be called "Virus II" There can't be a technical numeral "II" after an organic name like "Virus". They have to come up with a new name!) other things will come, but don't ask me when... >And of course this goes especially for my own submitted wishes! :) Well, your sampling rate wish is just asking for a new control button on the front panel. Then again, I don't know about the architecture. But I would love a parameter like that. The ring modulator has been asked for many many times. I'm sure if it can be done, access will do it. I don't have any clue about your other wish though... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 20:38:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:37:49 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: wishlist * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com Canine wrote: >So for things like this we will have to wait for the next machine Access >will make for us. (I doubt that it will be called "Virus II" There can't be >a technical numeral "II" after an organic name like "Virus". They have to >come up with a new name!) Perhaps the "Phage". Or the "Bacterial Infection". Maybe the "Head Cold". Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 20:42:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:44:29 +0200 Subject: Bank B sounds * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Dear Virus users, I am suspecting a problem in OS 1.54 of the Virus, even though it could be something else. But a few users have complained about lost sounds in Bank B. If you are suffering from such problems (only in OS 1.54, please, all others hold your fire...;), please email me privately or on this list as I would like to compile a list of symptoms and pass them on to Access asap. if there is a problem, Access will want to know as many details as possible, so please include any hint you might have on how to reproduce the problem. As Robocop would say: thank you for your cooperation! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 20:46:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:48:45 +0200 Subject: RE: wishlist * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:37 PM +0200 on 27.07.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Perhaps the "Phage". Or the "Bacterial Infection". Maybe the "Head Cold". First time I saw the Virus I thought the name had come from the acronym for "Advanced Integrated Digital Synthesizer". But Access denied this...;) I wonder if they would want to stay with the biological warfare metaphor or move on to something new. Genetics engineering or nanotechnology maybe. Ther must be tons of nice words that make good names for products (or even bandnames...) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 21:05:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:02:04 -0700 Subject: RE: wishlist * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >I wonder if they would want to stay with the biological warfare metaphor or move on to something new. Genetics engineering or nanotechnology maybe. Ther must be tons of nice words that make good names for products (or even bandnames...) > Heh heh, yeah. I'd kill to have a "Protoplasm" or a "DollyTheSheep" synthesizer in my setup! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://www.teklab.com | la, calif. Show the World Linux! PAPT Member #00002 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 21:25:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 98 21:28:06 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Hello ACCESS: Re: lost B-bank sounds - Please read!! * From: Raymund Beyer Hi, Yesterday I reported about the lost b-bank sounds. I just recovered them. Any of the lost sounds had an infection at the Sound Input parameter. It was set to illegal. So now i screwed the parameter back (value button -) and the next value of the controller was 100 (controller 101, value 100). So I guess any software bug sets all the sounds to this value at the Sound Input parameter - all at once! Hope this help a little bit..... Regards Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer | brainray@real-net.de http://members.xoom.com/brainray | H1, 1-2 Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | 68159 Mannheim Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 22:19:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: visnick@mail.europa.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:10:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Bank B sounds * From: Marc Visnick At 08:44 PM 7/27/98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Dear Virus users, > >I am suspecting a problem in OS 1.54 of the Virus, even though it could be something else. But a few users have complained about lost sounds in Bank B. Yeah, I had this happen to me once. It truly sucked to have to reset the Input parameter for dozens of patches on Bank 'B'. I have no idea what caused it, however. On a similar note, I don't know if others have experienced this under OS 1.54, but every so often (and with no predictable pattern that I can discover) upon powering up the Virus--and *without* me pressing any keys on the Virus--, the system will ask me if I want to reload the factory sounds for Banks A & B. This only happened after I switched to OS 1.54. Is this a known bug? -Marc Visnick visnick@europa.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: gatrall@slip.net Mon Jul 27 22:57:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: canine@muenster.de Subject: Virus Bank B sounds Ever since the beginning I have had problems with sounds changing and mutating on their own. The most obvious symptom is that the name will end up with characters in it that you can't program from the front panel. Other parameters will sometimes have illegal values as well. I am currently running version 1.54, but I have been having this problem since 1.09. I know that I have had problems with bank A sounds, but I think that it is mainly bank B. When I talked to Christophe at NAMM he suggested that they had problems with the back-up batteries not having a full charge when they were "new". I still haven't actually checked the battery voltage, but I should. I have also been having a weird bug recently were the display will show a value of 255 briefly while adjusting a parameter that only goes from 0-127. It does this in the middle of the range - not at the ends. -s!monX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jul 27 12:06:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:09:49 BST Priority: normal Subject: Re: Controller speed * From: I can appreciate that this "controller response latency" is annoying for you in your particular situation but it has to be said that this data smoothing is one of the coolest things about the virus since it erradicates zipper noise. Try twiddling the assignable knob for filter cutoff on a Yamaha AN1x to hear what this sound like - it sounds steppy and digital as it doesn't have the benefit of the Virus' adaptive parameter smoothing. Have you noticed how the Osc 2 semitone knob will only allow you to tune Osc 2 to semitone steps but while you turn it the pitch glides smoothly to the new setting - great for use with the sync on! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 28 07:50:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:49:24 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: wishlist * From: Dimitri Sijperda At 20:16 27-7-98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I don't know about this part really, but I assume they are holding back major new features until all (all!) bugs are swiped from the current version of the OS. Which would be a great plan, I think. That´s what I think too. A ´final bugg-les version´ and than developing an other optional version with new algorithms and new bugs. Then you can choose for a safe and unsafe version. >Some features can't be done in the Virus as it is right now becuase of limitations in hardware or architecture A real wise option to give a virus II is digital output! And a connection to an optional expander board to have more knobs, so you´re able to access all the parameters directly. I´ll add it to the wishlist. >So for things like this we will have to wait for the next machine Access will make for us. (I doubt that it will be called "Virus II" There can't be a technical numeral "II" after an organic name like "Virus". They have to come up with a new name!) What did you think of the ACCESS PRION, named to the type of virus like the Mad Cow disease/Kreutzfeld ´Virus´. A virus is some protein with DNA/RNA code, a prion is some kind of Protein without DNA/RNA. >Well, your sampling rate wish is just asking for a new control button on the front panel. Then again, I don't know about the architecture. But I would love a parameter like that. It´s the opposite of emulating an analogue synth, but I don´t mind. This kind of soundprocessing goes in some way much further than analogue synhesis. It´s nice that you can imitate analogue sounds, but the virus has more capabilities. >I don't have any clue about your other wish though... The last wish of syncronizing ext input with an internal oscillator. That one I wrote a bit cryptially. And is has not really to do anything with emulating an anologue synthesizer. I guess i´ll try this algorythm myself first. It would only be able if there is still some buffer space left for each of the voices. I think it would need at most 64Kbyte, so that is 105Kbyte. Maybe this space is just not available. Dimitri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science Kamer J0-020, AMC Meibergdreef 15 1105 AZ Amsterdam ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 28 19:00:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:58:15 +0100 Subject: Re: wishlist * From: Steve Tavaglione access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: wishlist >Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 7/28/98 11:42 AM > >* From: > >>Perhaps the "Phage". Or the "Bacterial Infection". Maybe the "Head Cold". > >>How about the "Pryon" or "Mad Cow" ? > >>Steve > >Those names sound good....I'm sure the sound from "head cold" would be cloudy and muffled tho...(like when I have a head cold" > >How about Anthrax or "the Plague" > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Why doesn't someone change the name of the XT to Agent Orange? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 28 12:42:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:42:07 BST Priority: normal Subject: RE: wishlist * From: Perhaps the "Phage". Or the "Bacterial Infection". Maybe the "Head Cold". How about the "Pryon" or "Mad Cow" ? Steve ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jul 28 18:29:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:55:40 -0500 Subject: Re[2]: wishlist * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: wishlist Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 7/28/98 11:42 AM * From: >Perhaps the "Phage". Or the "Bacterial Infection". Maybe the "Head Cold". >How about the "Pryon" or "Mad Cow" ? >Steve Those names sound good....I'm sure the sound from "head cold" would be cloudy and muffled tho...(like when I have a head cold" How about Anthrax or "the Plague" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 29 02:54:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:00:32 -0400 Organization: weld electronica CC: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Atari 1040ST? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net for anyone looking for a STE or a backup atari ste i have a friend with about 20, w/ monitors and mouses for 150$ each!! hes in florida, and inherited them from a university email gasmith@leading.net or give him a ring at 904-384-6587 i also know of a source for steinberg exports (75$) \great with sequencing and misc midi applications i ordered 2, and there in nice condition, im setting one up with realtime/cubase and another w/ M, and quasar anaolg seq emulator weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 29 11:14:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 98 11:15:08 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: OT: Seq 303 alternatives for mac/atari???? * From: Raymund Beyer access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >a few anolog synth emulators i ran across for the fellow mac and atari users > >modularing from france for macintosh--cool as shit!! if i ever figure out how to work it >http://www.milprod.com/MODULARING/ModularMain.html > >the new and imroved M for macintosh ( a atrai version is available for the ST from the electronic music foundation on the net ) http://www.cycling74.com/index.html > >and pulsar for the atari >http://www.tuva.demon.co.uk/atari.htm Hi Weld, really WIRED looking stuff..... I´ll trie out when I have time. Good Info! Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer | brainray@real-net.de http://members.xoom.com/brainray | H1, 1-2 Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | 68159 Mannheim Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 29 22:32:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:19:38 -0500 Subject: Seq303 sequencer * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: OT: Seq 303 alternatives for mac/atari???? Author: access-list@tl36.teklab.com at Internet Date: 7/29/98 11:15 AM Where can I download Seq303 (pc ver.)? I'd like to try it out (especially with virus) Do Not Touch Me and Wait, Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 29 20:54:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:51:17 EDT Subject: Re: wishlist * From: WYDMusic@aol.com This is all great. Rather than spending another $1,500 on a theoretical "Virus II" a year from now, however, I would just be happy if I could sync my arpegiators and not have to power cycle every day. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 29 23:56:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:57:53 +0200 Subject: FWD: ACCESS remarks to Midi Clock * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hello, Access List! Some comments and explainations from us about the always present Midi-Clock problems. The Midi Clock message that you use to sync the arpeggiator, the LFO and the delay, is just something like a fast metronome that beats 24 times each quarter note. On 120 bpm it beats 48 times a second. Because it doesn't contain any absolute time information, it is accompanied by - The Start message: sent when the sequencer is started at the beginning (some sequencers send Midi Clock even if the sequence is stopped) - The Stop message: no comment - The Continue message: The sequence continues on the same beat where it was stopped before. - The Song Position Pointer: Sends the new absolute song position when it was changed by hand. There are two different algorithms in the Virus working with the Midi Clock: 1. For the Arpeggiator there is just a counter that is loaded with e.g. the value 24 in case you chose 1/4 note for Arpeggiator Clock (value 12 for 1/8, and 6 for 1/16). It is counted down by one each time a Midi Clock message is received. When it hits zero, the next arpeggiator note is played and the counter is reloaded with 24 again. 2. For the delay to sync, there is an advanced algorithm that measures the real song tempo by the incoming clock events. It then calculates the delay time through the measured tempo. The LFO uses both algorithms for its sync: The first for triggering its cycle, the second for calculating the desired LFO rate. We need both methods for the LFO's, because the first gives the right trigger position, without dealing with the tempo; the second one locks the LFO to the song tempo without any reference to the absolute postion Now the problems: The first algorithm requires that every single clock message is sent from the sequencer, otherwise the timing is delayed by this message. The second algorithm requires a constant and linear incoming stream of clock messages for a steady tempo measurement. This should be obvious, but unfortunately this is not a fact in modern computer setups. If you are experiencing that the Virus Arpeggiator or LFO is running out of timing slowly, this happens because the connected computer setup (e.g. the Midi interface) leaves out clock messages from time to time. Beside this, you must pay attention to one fact that might not be documented well enough: The first note that is sent to an arpeggiator defines the timing reference and position of the arpeggiator pattern. So, if you want a quantisized arp pattern driven by the sequenzer, at least the first note should be quantisized in the sequenzer. But notice: Even if this first note is between the beats, the arp pattern will stay between the beats contantly and will not change its timing position when the Midi Clock information is correct. There is a workaround: Retrigger the arpeggiator again on the beginning of a new phrase. Second problem: The synced Delay produces clicks. This happens when the tempo measurement algorithm is not able to detect the right song tempo because the flow of clock signals is not regular, or some clock messages are left out. Same problem. This guides us to another problem: The software update. Since we early experienced that no PC or Mac will be capable of sending our operating system as one long System Exclusive Message, we divided the file in peaces and packed them into thousands of little SysEx messages that contain only 70 Bytes each (!), with intervals between the messages. If you slow down the tempo, you even increase these intervals and help the interface to clear its Midi buffer etc. Apparently some sequencers or interfaces (or combinations of both) are unable to handle this situation. We recommended to switch Midi Clock off while sending the OS because some systems have problems to mix SysEx and Midi Clock. All these problems are produced by sequencers and midi interfaces that are not capable of handling the Midi data stream correctly. You want a reference for all this? Then have a look at the good old Atari ST! You can get it on the second-hand marked for less than 150 DM (incl. monitor) We tested the arpeggiator sync for 24 hours in a loop (with an old Cubase version), no problem! I designed the tempo measurement algorithm based on the Atari Midi Clock. Later we experienced that this first algorithm produces Delay clicks when driven by a well installed PC with MOTU Midi Express interface. I had to do complicated improvements to the measurement algorithm for a Clock timing error detection that naturally decreased the speed of the tempo detection. On an Atari you can run the OS update even at 250 bpm, and you will never get an error! The Atari would also be capable to send the OS as a long SysEx message including all 260.000 bytes!! Thanks for your support! Christoph Kemper ACCESS Music Electronics R&D think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jul 29 23:54:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:01:39 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: wishlist * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net my arpegiator in the virus syncs to my atari and mac fine weld access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: WYDMusic@aol.com > >This is all great. Rather than spending another $1,500 on a theoretical "Virus II" a year from now, however, I would just be happy if I could sync my arpegiators and not have to power cycle every day. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jul 30 01:02:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: dhylander@pop.mindspring.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:00:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Seq303 sequencer * From: David Hylander >Where can I download Seq303 (pc ver.)? > It's at http://www.technotoys.com Dave ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Aug 1 02:31:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-ROUTED: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:33:02 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Dihm Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:43:51 +0000 Organization: White Cloud Productions Subject: Re: The need for effects? * From: Don Ihm >With the price of digital effects units costing below $200 these days, there is NO reason any synth player shouldn't have decent reverb... You can't get good reverb for that price YET. Personally, I'm not prepared >to pay $100 extra for each instrument I buy, just for some crappy reverb I >have to defeat. What about the new Lexicon you can get for alittle over $200 , probably better than most built-in effects dihm ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jul 31 23:27:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:24:59 EDT Subject: Re: The need for effects? * From: Elhardt@aol.com <<<>>> >>Generally if you need to add chorus or reverb to a sound to "fatten" it, or "give it life", it is the fault of the programmer, not the synth or the patch in itself.<< This is about a 3 week old message, and I have been too busy to respond, but I can't let this one go without comment. Reverb is a necessity not an effect. Virtually every performance of any type of music has some reverb. To have the your synth sound as if the sound is right in you ear is annoying and sterile sounding. As for phase shifing, flanging, chorus, echo, etc.. Yes, those are effects that are used here and there. I don't know what kinds of sounds you are creating, but your comments seem to indicate that you are totally unfamiliar with history of quality synth music. If for example you want a huge dramatic string sound, a two oscillator synth patch with no effects is going to sound awful no matter how you program it. Run the sound trough a couple of stereo choruses, a little thickening delay, and thick reverb and you get those dramatic "Tomita" sounding strings for example. With the price of digital effects units costing below $200 these days, there is NO reason any synth player shouldn't have decent reverb and other effects for use. In fact it is cutting reverb off of a sound to make it fly up into your ears which is the effect, not the other way around. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!