X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 08:11:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: time signatures (was Re:new toy)(long!) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:05:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Ronald Pieket wrote... >But after my disappointing experience with the QM309, I thought I'd stay away from any "groove" type products. As far as I can see, these machines are >designed to make everybody sound the same, to force everybody to make the same >music. That seems a little hard. Most of these boxes are designed for techno music, and it's true to say that 90% of techno musicians want that '4 on the floor' rhythm - that's my guess at why Quasimidi only allows 4/4 time signatures. But other 'groove' machines such as the Roland MC-505 will let you have a wide selection of time signatures. Techno music is quite big in Europe and Japan but still not compared to Pop or Rock, and it is really an underground thing in most of America...one TV channel recently had the 'shocking' news story about a club in Washington where many people were openly taking ecstacy. But techno is getting more popular around the world, and techno musicians are the perfect market for synthesizers and samplers, and maybe soon the biggest market. Close behind them are hip-hop and house musicians and drum'n'bass artists. Compared to these groups, there is not as much use of synth sounds in rock and pop these days (unless you count pop dance tunes maybe, but that is a form of techno too). So for the big music manufacturers, musicians in the new styles are the biggest customers for the future. And they want to make a product which will be easy to use and attract more people to try making music. Me, I took some piano lessons in my teens but I did not enjoy it too much and gave up on playing music. Maybe 10 years later I was listening to a trance track and heard a sample, and suddenly had the crazy thought that I could make this music... ...but for a new person, the variety of *expensive* machines with hundreds of features is scary and imposing, and synthesis is not something you find lots of books or teachers for like guitar or drum playing. I started with a Yamaha CS1x which looked like a nice techno machine, and a computer (actually I already had ReBirth but you know what I mean). I bought an old Oberheim analogue with no manual, and while I liked it it took 3 or 4 months to find how to do quite basic programming. So then I bought a Roland MC-505 because it had a lot of control over the sound and was easy to play with for ideas and maybe live performance too. I just sold the Yamaha and I am selling the 505 soon - I do not really use them any more plus I am trying to save money to attend a sound engineering school and become a professional :-] But I do not regret buying these products because they were a very useful to learn the basics of synthesizers and what sort of sound I like. Also I had a lot of fun using these modules and you can get some really cool and original sounds if you work hard on programming, like almost every synthesizer. I remember trying a Virus (the first one in SF) around the time I bought the 505: I really liked the sound but I did not understand analog synthesis very well and it seemed like a lot of money for a tool I was too uneducated to use properly. that was the right decision to make at that moment (getting the 505). When I did finally buy the Virus last year I knew for sure what kind of sounds I wanted to make and why I needed it. So when you (as an experienced synthesist) look at these machines, please remember that they have a lot of value for new people, and that the companies which make them are trying to come up with something new for a new kind of musician who is perhaps not a keyboard player first. Today I am finishing a new track and it sounds good enough that maybe I can release it. But I would not be at this point without the help I had from my 'groove' boxes during my learning period. Even if they are toys, they are very educational toys! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 16:23:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 07:21:17 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Death of techno (was: time signatures) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >Techno music is quite big in Europe and Japan but still not compared to Pop or Rock, and it is really an underground thing in most of America...one TV channel recently had the 'shocking' news story about a club in Washington where many people were openly taking ecstacy. I lived in England when techno began to appear, some eight or so years ago. I'm quite familiar with the phenomenon, and the rave culture. >That seems a little hard. Most of these boxes are designed for techno music, and it's true to say that 90% of techno musicians want that '4 on the floor' rhythm - that's my guess at why Quasimidi only allows 4/4 time signatures. But other 'groove' machines such as the Roland MC-505 will let you have a wide selection of time signatures. When techno/acid began, it was born from innovation. Music stripped almost naked, and with new uses for old equipment - samplers had been in common use for more than a decade, 808's and 303's had been gathering dust for the same amount of time because they didn't sound realistic enough. And jungle, too, was once original. Drum boxes no longer used to simulate a drummer, but as an instrument in its own right. But that was a long time ago. Clever Japanese (and some German) marketing people have analyzed how techno is made, what the rhythms are, and put them in a box. The result: a wave of mediocre me-too musicians, now sounding exactly like the original innovators, flock to the scene. But this is techno frozen in time, static, devoid of innovation, invention, imagination, or personality. Techno looking back, based upon what has been, replicative, with no chance of evolving beyond what the clever Japanese and German marketing people decided it should be. Instant music at the press of a button. Groove products are the death of techno. Time to move on, time to move beyond the idiom dictated by Roland's, Yamaha's, and Quasimidi's marketing people. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 10:45:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Bass Drum squelch Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:36:39 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >This problem is system immanent. I think you mean 'inherent'...this spelling of immanent means 'close to God'. But it is correct too since you guys are synth gods :-) >I have not the time to check it, but I think this effect can be avoid by positioning the bass drum track as the first track in the sequencer. Maybe someone can advise on this ? I definitely noticed that the problem is worse on channel 10 than if I put the BD on a lower-numbered channel but everything else is the same. I just used channel 10 out of habit, and also to save a chorus since I don't usually want it on BD. I guess this is because of the ~1ms every MIDI message takes to transmit, does the Virus start the envelopes on every channel and then manage each one in turn? I did not realise that the resonant click (909 type sound) I use so often depended on such precise timing. I will try on channel 1 and if it works I will dedicate the next track to you! >I will try to solve this problem as soon as possible. I am quite happy to use channel 1 all the time but as I said it is nice to have all 4 voices of DSP chorus available. Is there any reason that the chorus is only on channels 1-4? It would be neat if you could just switch it on any channel when an idea comes, but that it would not function on more than 4 at once. If this is possible, it might also be neat to have a global chorus, like the delay and feed multiple channels into it. You can do this with an aux out and an input channel but it is obviously less convenient. but maybe you should save this for the Helicopter. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 10:45:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Gating? Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:36:41 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >Select Input dynamic mode and Keymode Mono 1 or 2 (the ones with the trigger). If you hold the Sustain pedal or simply program the sequencer to hold the Sustain pedal forever... Clever. When I get rich I will own two of every synth made by Access, so you guys can get more money for your excellent work! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 10:45:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Clicking noise (Re: Virus Bug?) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:36:43 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Bilbo Bagginz wrote... >Yes, I am getting intermittent clicking from my Virus too. Ever since os. 2.5. I get clicks sometimes when I have a lot of stuff going on - many of my patches have lots of matrix modulation going on. But I cannot say this is a big problem for me - in fact it may be related to a tiny hardware problem in my Virus, I just have not had time to send it away to get the chip replaced. It has never been bad enough to annoy me anyway. Actually the clicks on my machine sound pretty cool if I turn the delay up, they have a nice timbre. Give it a try while you are waiting for a solution Bill, it sounds bom ;-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 03:56:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 02:28:29 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Clicking noise (Re: Virus Bug?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Yes, I am getting intermittent clicking from my Virus too. Ever since os. 2.5. Bilbo Bagginz dimi@dds.nl wrote: >* From dimi@dds.nl > >Hello! > >Yes, I know the problem. I thought access knew about this too. I once discussed this with Christoph, he said that it was because of the vocoder taking much processor capacity while doing nothing or something. He also said it would be fixed in the next OS. I haven't updated yet (sorry, no time...), so I don't know if the problem still exists in OS 2.51. Do you have this OS? > >Try this: Turn off the patch that is set to vocoder (set it on a non-vocoder patch). The clicking should disappear. But that doesn't solve the problem when you want to use the vocoder with other patches..... :-( By the way, it's not the only time I have clicking noise. But I can't trace other couses yet. And it not as much as with the vocoder luckily. > >Dimitri. > >steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com schreef: > >>* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com> MIME:nearlygod@wtal.de on 29/05/99 17:24:03 To: access-list@teklab.com @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Steven De >Mesmaker/AIQ/CT/ATLAS COPCO) >>Subject: Virus Bug? >> >>* From nearlygod >> >> >> >>>I get load popnoises when I use the vocoder in multimode. >When I disable this >>>part, everything is quiet. >>>I experienced this with 2.51, but I didn`t tried again >with 2.5 >> >> >>I have the same problem. >>My Virus produces 'clics' when the vocoder is active in >multimode... >> >> >>greetings, >> >>Steven >> >>___________________________________________________________ >________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service >of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ >for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - >please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 16:22:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:22:38 -0500 From: Sylvain Bolduc To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe sbolduc@aei.ca Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Sylvain Bolduc unsubscribe sbolduc@aei.ca ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 17:30:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Christian Fichter" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:26:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Christian Fichter" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 17:53:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mango@mail.gelrevision.nl Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:52:53 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: joel Subject: Re: Death of techno (was: time signatures) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From joel Y-e-p-p-p-p-p-p :) >* From Ronald Pieket > > >>Techno music is quite big in Europe and Japan but still not compared to Pop or Rock, and it is really an underground thing in most of America...one TV channel recently had the 'shocking' news story about a club in Washington where many people were openly taking ecstacy. > >I lived in England when techno began to appear, some eight or so years ago. I'm >quite familiar with the phenomenon, and the rave culture. > >>That seems a little hard. Most of these boxes are designed for techno music, and it's true to say that 90% of techno musicians want that '4 on the floor' rhythm - that's my guess at why Quasimidi only allows 4/4 time signatures. But other 'groove' machines such as the Roland MC-505 will let you have a wide selection of time signatures. > >When techno/acid began, it was born from innovation. Music stripped almost naked, and with new uses for old equipment - samplers had been in common use for >more than a decade, 808's and 303's had been gathering dust for the same amount >of time because they didn't sound realistic enough. And jungle, too, was once original. Drum boxes no longer used to simulate a drummer, but as an instrument >in its own right. > >But that was a long time ago. Clever Japanese (and some German) marketing people >have analyzed how techno is made, what the rhythms are, and put them in a box. >The result: a wave of mediocre me-too musicians, now sounding exactly like the >original innovators, flock to the scene. > >But this is techno frozen in time, static, devoid of innovation, invention, imagination, or personality. Techno looking back, based upon what has been, replicative, with no chance of evolving beyond what the clever Japanese and German marketing people decided it should be. Instant music at the press of a button. > >Groove products are the death of techno. Time to move on, time to move beyond the idiom dictated by Roland's, Yamaha's, and Quasimidi's marketing people. > >- Ronald. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 17:57:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Clicking noise (Re: Virus Bug?) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:55:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Anig Browl" > >I get clicks sometimes when I have a lot of stuff going on - many of my patches have lots of matrix modulation going on. But I cannot say this is a >big problem for me - in fact it may be related to a tiny hardware problem in >my Virus, I just have not had time to send it away to get the chip replaced. >It has never been bad enough to annoy me anyway. Well, thats exactly the same with my machine. The clicks are there, but they are very quiet. I can live with it, but it would be nice if they were gone. (reminds me that I still have to send Christoph a midi-file with sounds and an example!) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 19:14:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: CarbonHaze@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:10:52 EDT Subject: Re: Virus keyboard VS. Waldorf XT keyboard To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CarbonHaze@aol.com In a message dated 5/29/99 3:55:49 PM Central Daylight Time, Dgerbs@aol.com writes: >How would you compare te XT versus the Virus all around??? Is te XT keyboard > >less expensive than the Virus keyboard? Both the virus and the XT are about > >the same price right now but i haven't played an XT. Which is better for techno/trance? I have had an MWII for a while, and just got my virus - my initial impression is that the virus is better for analog bass sounds and very warm string sounds - the microwave is better for odd digital timbres. its FM in particular is much better than the viruses. Personally, I cant wait to get my hands on Waldorf Q and test that thing out. Tony Carbon haze negative Gain Productions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 20:48:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:50:28 +0200 Subject: Re: Death of techno (was: time signatures) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >But this is techno frozen in time, static, devoid of innovation, invention, imagination, or personality. Techno looking back, based upon what has been, replicative, with no chance of evolving beyond what the clever Japanese and German marketing people decided it should be. Instant music at the press of a button. But the record companies DO BUY THIS SHIT! Especially in Germany it´s quite difficult to move to a new sound if you make your living from Techno.... Everybody is just chasing behind the new Promos and then copying a track, and releasing the copy before the official releasedate of the original has come... stupid and boring :-( >Groove products are the death of techno. Time to move on, time to move beyond the idiom dictated by Roland's, Yamaha's, and Quasimidi's marketing people. Wright! And Ronald to you personally: thank you for making these exciting drum sounds for the Virus!!!! I used the HH2 and the Ride in a few tracks - they sound very fresh!!! Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 21:23:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:18:55 EDT Subject: Fwd: system updates - update To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness In a message dated 5/31/99 3:12:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Jeffkoval writes: << access-list@teklab.com >> Return-path: Jeffkoval@aol.com From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Full-name: Jeffkoval Message-ID: <2ae274fa.248400ca@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:12:10 EDT Subject: Fwd: system updates - update To: weld@jumpontheweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_2ae274fa.248400ca_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc02.mail.aol.com (v59.24) with SMTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:48:06 -0400 Received: from tl36.teklab.com ([206.111.199.168]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id BAA22062; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24547 for access-list-outgoing; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:50:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24466 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:50:34 -0700 From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Received: from Jeffkoval@aol.com (552) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8RKBa02628 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1aeef9ea.24837aed@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 01:41:01 EDT Subject: Re: system updates - update To: access-list@teklab.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com i tried your suggestion. i downloaded jazzware, then i re downloaded all the zipped patches. i used jazzware to install the 2.51 operating system and it worked great.. however when i went to try and install the new patches into "b" i get that same stupid "checksum error"? reception failed.?? please help. thank you ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 21:23:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:19:08 EDT Subject: Fwd: system updates - update To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness In a message dated 5/31/99 3:12:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Jeffkoval writes: << access-list@teklab.com >> Return-path: Jeffkoval@aol.com From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Full-name: Jeffkoval Message-ID: <4ab2c42d.248400ca@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:12:10 EDT Subject: Fwd: system updates - update To: weld@jumpontheweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_4ab2c42d.248400ca_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc02.mail.aol.com (v59.24) with SMTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:48:06 -0400 Received: from tl36.teklab.com ([206.111.199.168]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id BAA22062; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24547 for access-list-outgoing; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:50:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24466 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:50:34 -0700 From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Received: from Jeffkoval@aol.com (552) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8RKBa02628 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1aeef9ea.24837aed@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 01:41:01 EDT Subject: Re: system updates - update To: access-list@teklab.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com i tried your suggestion. i downloaded jazzware, then i re downloaded all the zipped patches. i used jazzware to install the 2.51 operating system and it worked great.. however when i went to try and install the new patches into "b" i get that same stupid "checksum error"? reception failed.?? please help. thank you ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 1 22:05:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 23:01:57 +0300 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Techno & other music/Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen >But techno is getting more popular around the world, and techno musicians are the perfect market for synthesizers and samplers, and maybe soon the biggest market. Close behind them are hip-hop and house musicians and drum'n'bass artists. Compared to these groups, there is not as much use of synth sounds in rock and pop these days (unless you count pop dance tunes maybe, but that is a form of techno too). > I think there is. Unfortunately, most rock and pop musicians won't bother to try anything but factory presets. There are countless ways of using synth sounds no matter what type of music you are making. I have used my Virus with rock groups too. At the moment I'm producing a finnish rock band. Most of the synth sounds on the album are made with Virus. The band loves it. The musical styles get mixed all the time. Techno-influenced rock and pop, world music, anything. Hope it will continue. Or... how about delta-blues-influenced techno? --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 2 00:43:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:39:14 EDT Subject: Re: system updates - update To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com i have downloaded these sounnds files several times-- i have also had this problem with cakewalk pro audio 7 - ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 2 05:24:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy)(long!) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:18:52 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Anig, >I am trying to save money to attend a sound engineering school and become a professional :-] There's one book by Yamaha, which is a definitive text on Audio Engineering. Can't remember exactly what it's called, but studying this will get you a long way without attending (for example) SAE. Suggest you have a look at SAE's course info, or talk to them, and find out exactly what it's called... They used this text and one other as their primary course components. Of course going to school, will give you equipment access, tutor feedback, and some industry connection. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 2 10:34:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:12:56 +0200 Subject: Arpegiator switching off Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Hi, since the 2.5 update my arpegiator sometimes hangs up. My bank is currently full with arp. sounds but this can't be the reason for this error. Ronald, Techno should be dead, but I guess it will never die. The sounds are getting more and more boring, everything or almost everything has already been tried, copied and covered. Where is all this gonna lead to, I guess it won't carry us back into the past, with all these Synths, Samplers and CPU´s but what do we need F....N GOOD IDEAS NEW INSPIRATION AND PLEASE STOP THESE BORING REMAKES DO YOUR OWN THING and greeting to the VIRUS team WICKED WICKED WICKED Jason Browne Taunusring 10 61118 Bad Vilbel GERMANY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne représente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 00:05:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jeff Barthel" To: Subject: test Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:45:29 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jeff Barthel" test ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 00:03:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy)(long!) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill The Yamaha book is called the Sound Reinforcement Handbook. On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Thomas Whitmore wrote: >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >Hi Anig, > >>I am trying to save money to attend a sound engineering school and become a professional :-] > >There's one book by Yamaha, which is a definitive text on Audio Engineering. Can't remember exactly what it's called, but studying this will get you a long way without attending (for example) SAE. > >Suggest you have a look at SAE's course info, or talk to them, and find out exactly what it's called... They used this text and one other as their primary course components. > >Of course going to school, will give you equipment access, tutor feedback, and some industry connection. > > >Cheers, >Thomas > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 02:10:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Bass Drum squelch Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:32:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I definitely noticed that the problem is worse on channel 10 than if I put the BD on a lower-numbered channel but everything else is the same. I just used channel 10 out of habit, and also to save a chorus since I don't usually want it on BD. "...the first track in the sequencer...". At least for Cubase, this ensures timing priority (still, I think). So you can still use channel 10 on the Virus and not waste a chorus channel. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 03:13:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:12:59 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Engineering book Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >There's one book by Yamaha, which is a definitive text on Audio Engineering. Can't remember exactly what it's called, but studying this will get you a long way without attending (for example) SAE. Hey there! Does anybody know the title of the book? It sounds that I should have a look at it! Martin mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 00:42:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Death of Techno Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:15:04 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Hi there Jason >Where is all this gonna lead to, I guess it won't carry us back into the past, with all these Synths, Samplers and CPU´s but what do we need F....N GOOD IDEAS NEW INSPIRATION I am (was) an old-school electronic musician from England, now Frankfurt/M, looking for a project I can get my teeth into. What are your musical plans/ideas/ambitions? (serious question) Howard Scarr ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 00:44:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:43:01 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Just picked up a pair of HR-824s A religious experience ... that's all I can say In case anyone's curious, or about to buy some and need 'competitive price ammunition' for your local retailer, I got mine at Guitar Center in San Jose, California for $558USD each... this seemed to be a low price to me. Thanks for all your input!!! -zs >I've had my sights on the Mackie HR-824's as well. From what I heard, they give the most accurate representation of an actual mix. However, I know people who like the Event 20/20's (which I am more familiar with). These are quite nice. The JBL's are fine, but not my faves. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 03:59:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Bass Drum squelch Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:53:29 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >I was not saying midi channel 1, but first track in the arrangement. Oh I see. >Btw: What do you mean by 'everything else is the same'? Just the rest of the arangement was the same, no more or fewer parts playing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 04:15:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy)(long!) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:09:48 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Aaron, >The Yamaha book is called the Sound Reinforcement Handbook. Thought it might be called something like that. Been some years. Anyway, it's very readable *and* complete. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 04:22:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:18:12 -0700 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Cc: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan I'm forwarding this to the music-bar, because it's not really on topic for the Access-list, and also because there are some on the music-bar who might find this thread interesting ... j. >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:43:01 -0700 >From: Zack Steinkamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps >Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. >X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness > >* From Zack Steinkamp > >Just picked up a pair of HR-824s > >A religious experience ... that's all I can say > >In case anyone's curious, or about to buy some and need 'competitive price ammunition' for your local retailer, I got mine at Guitar Center in San Jose, California for $558USD each... this seemed to be a low price to me. > >Thanks for all your input!!! > >-zs > >>I've had my sights on the Mackie HR-824's as well. From what I heard, they give the most accurate representation of an actual mix. However, I know >people >>who like the Event 20/20's (which I am more familiar with). These are quite nice. The JBL's are fine, but not my faves. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 04:22:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:18:43 -0700 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: Engineering book Cc: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Another one from the access-list that belongs on the music-bar. j. >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:12:59 +0200 >To: access-list@teklab.com >From: Martin Zuther >Subject: Engineering book >Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. >X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness > >* From Martin Zuther > >>There's one book by Yamaha, which is a definitive text on Audio Engineering. Can't remember exactly what it's called, but studying this will get you a long way without attending (for example) SAE. > >Hey there! > >Does anybody know the title of the book? It sounds that I should have a look at it! > >Martin >mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 04:22:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:19:07 -0700 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy)(long!) Cc: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan And yet another one from the access-list that belongs on the music-bar. j. >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy)(long!) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. >X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness > >* From Aaron E Havill > > >The Yamaha book is called the Sound Reinforcement Handbook. > >On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Thomas Whitmore wrote: > >>* From "Thomas Whitmore" >> >>Hi Anig, >> >>>I am trying to save money to attend a sound engineering school and become a professional :-] >> >>There's one book by Yamaha, which is a definitive text on Audio Engineering. Can't remember exactly what it's called, but studying this will get you a long way without attending (for example) SAE. >> >>Suggest you have a look at SAE's course info, or talk to them, and find out exactly what it's called... They used this text and one other as their primary course components. >> >>Of course going to school, will give you equipment access, tutor feedback, and some industry connection. >> >> >>Cheers, >>Thomas >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 04:27:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:22:36 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: About music-bar@teklab.com Cc: music-bar@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan You'll have noticed by now that I've forwarded a few of the threads from the access-list over to the music-bar mailing list... For those on the access-list that aren't aware, we run a large number of music related lists here at TekLab, and one of them is called the 'music-bar'. The purpose of the music-bar is to give musicians a place to talk about whatever they want to (as if they were all in a bar, having a few rounds of beer), without digressing too far from the topics on the other lists. Whenever things get a bit off-topic on one of our lists here at TekLab, rather than kill the thread we prefer to send it over to the music-bar where it is very welcome and can continue to grow and prosper into the lovely little nugget of information that a music-related thread can often become ... This serves the purpose of keeping our other lists relatively clear of off-topic stuff, as well as serving the needs of musicians who want to chat about things without worrying about staying on topic. So if you're interested in some of the more off-topic stuff (i.e. not really related to the Access Virus synthesizer), please join us over at the music-bar. Details here: http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 3 23:50:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:44:45 EDT Subject: Setups To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com I just wanted to see how many of you play live with your Virus as well as in a studio. If so, please let tell what style of music, how many people in the act and what your setup consists of (equipment). I am hoping to start playing live soon and just wanted to see what any of you were doing. Lates, Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 00:20:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:28:45 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Setups Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD I use 79 virus live and nothing else and control it all from taurus pedals!!! kidding kidding : ) did a live show a month back, just some kraftwerk covers, and a few trancey/analog things, used mpc60, waldorf microwave, 2 pulse, virus, kurzweil k2500R, yamaha o1V mixer and a nord modular keyboard as my only controller (really) weld Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >I just wanted to see how many of you play live with your Virus as well as in a studio. If so, please let tell what style of music, how many people in the act and what your setup consists of (equipment). I am hoping to start playing live soon and just wanted to see what any of you were doing. > >Lates, >Daniel >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 01:37:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 01:35:13 +0200 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Setups Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hans w. koch" i played several times experimental music-gigs with my virus, using an evolution -dance station keyboard (small but with two wheels and pedal in, very versatile), a mackie 1202vlz mixer, a stereo-volume pedal & a hold pedal. if i need a sequencer, i take my qy 70. since i have got no car, my whole setup must fit in a backpack. works great for me greetings hwk Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >I just wanted to see how many of you play live with your Virus as well as in a studio. If so, please let tell what style of music, how many people in the act and what your setup consists of (equipment). I am hoping to start playing live soon and just wanted to see what any of you were doing. > >Lates, >Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 03:50:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:54:07 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: Re: Setups Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield I Have played out several times as well with a group of five or so. We had a Nord, a Korg Z-1 , a Roland JP, violin/ guitar,MY VIRUS and an MPC 600 -all into a mackie 1604. We were all sycronized on a midi clock and I used the virus for some nice arppegiations and I also set up an arppegiated gate and played spoken word through the 16th notes with delay, chorus, distortion and filtering! The electronic ensemble was well recieved! -David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 09:17:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: Gerald Thomson To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Setups Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 00:15:21 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Thomson Yeah I play live with it. "My band" consists of me, a bass player, a lead singer and a drummer. In order not to bring my computer, and because the Virus is not that extensively used, I drive it from a MC-303, which I picked up cheap. This, of course, is not the best option, but it works fine. However, I am gonna replace the MC-303 with a RM1x at some point. And if it prooves good enough, I'll scrap sequencing via computer. But since I've only tried working with the MC-303, I don't know much about hardware sequencers. Anyhow, the way we actually do it at the moment is quite crude and a little primitive. We have a backingtrack with some breakbeats (for example), synth-chords, guitar-stuff and so on. The basics. This is run from a portable MiniDisc which we then have to start and stop. The drummer play to headphones to keep as tight as possible, and I try my best to start the MC on the right time. This can be a bit tricky if there's no monitor near me, or if it's not loud enough. Then I have to rely on the drummer being tight as fuck, and just hope that what I hear is actually him, and not a delay caused by the acoustics of the venue. Oh, and for simplicity I just use the internal FX so I don't have to bring too much expensive and vulnerable stuff. Hope this informative somehow. >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >I just wanted to see how many of you play live with your Virus as well as in >a studio. If so, please let tell what style of music, how many people in the >act and what your setup consists of (equipment). I am hoping to start playing live soon and just wanted to see what any of you were doing. > >Lates, >Daniel >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 09:26:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 00:18:13 -0700 To: a3k-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: PLEASE READ: A New Service from TekLab. Cc: music-bar@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, fatman-list@teklab.com, fss-list@teklab.com, dspfact-list@teklab.com, hwseq-list@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan As many of you know, I've been providing free online technical support here at TekLab for many music companies at my own expense for quite a few years. This has been totally gratis to everyone involved - not only the customers and users of music technology products, but also to the manufacturers themselves, who have quite happily used TekLab as their online service center without any form of fair exchange, feedback, etc. for many years. For the most part, I have gladly provided this service free of charge because I thoroughly enjoy the results - the song archive for the A3k mailing list has been an excellent source of entertainment for me personally, and it's definitely great to have contact with such a wide variety of folks, chatting about what interests me most: making music with new technology. Well, its now time to lift up the wraps on a simple project I've been meaning to make publically available for a while: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ This is what many of you have been waiting for: online web forums. With search capabilities. And archives. This service, again being provided by me free of charge for as long as I can manage to keep things running, does not replace the mailing lists. My plan is to eventually merge the two services so that users can select their desired mode of interface with our support lists - either through the web (these new forums), or through the traditional email mechanism. Eventually, there will be a merging of the two, but for now they are separate. If there are any volunteers in any of these forums who would like to act as 'bridges' of info between the web forums and the mailing lists, please feel free to do so. I will occasionally be making the more tasty, useful, helpful and creative/constructive postings from the mailing lists available on the forums myself, and vice versa - but it can't hurt to get help from others in this regard too. I will be linking the two mechanisms in the future, though they will have to survive separately for the time being... Please consider that these new web forums are somewhat experimental at this point. I have very little idea of the sorts of loads I'm going to be experiencing, though I predict that I may need a hardware upgrade soon if things go as planned. Also, I'm going to hold off on promoting the existence of these forums to the various newsgroups for a few days, while things settle a bit... though feel free to start linking to these forums if you have relevant web sites that would benefit from this service! You'll find some interesting features in these new forums. If you let them, the TekLab forums will *remember* who you are, and fill in the Name/Email fields for you automatically (using cookies). It'll also tell you what articles are new since the last time you paid a visit, and you have a few options in terms of sorting as well that make it much easier to keep up with various discussions... Check it out!! http://www.teklab.com/forums/ Why am I doing this? -------------------- There are a number of reasons why I'm opening up these new web forums for people to use. For starters, its easier to administer. I can quite easily add forums to this web interface in a matter of minutes - so if you have ideas for a music-related forum that you'd like to see in the list, feel free to send me e-mail and I'll set it up for you! Its also easier for people to use these forums. In many cases people won't participate in an Internet-based forum simply because they can't work out how to handle the e-mail subscription process for the mailing lists. Plus it opens up the doors for so many things - having a search engine, freely available archive of messages online, the ability to sort threads and view the content you want to ... all very good reasons to move over to the web. And also, because having forums like these available on the web makes it easier for me to get contributions and financial support from companies in the form of banner ads and other services, which may hopefully at least contribute to the cost of running this service in some small way. I won't be able to continue providing free community-based technical support services to various organizations forever - unless that is, at some point, *some* revenue is made to cover the costs in expansion and maintenance. I'm not trying to profit from this, not at all, because it's a community service (i.e. the community provides the service), but it would be nice to at least have *some* form of revenue from providing technical support to over 5,000 people around the world. Having said that, I turn these web forums over to you guys, the ones that make up the community here at TekLab. Enjoy them, use them, let me know of any glitches that come up and I will try and take care of it. But most of all, I hope you will all strive to make this new online web forum service key to the process of learning to make music with technology, for yourselves, and for all musicians on the Internet, everywhere... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 09:55:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:52:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Haselmeier Subject: Re: PLEASE READ: A New Service from TekLab. To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stefan Haselmeier Thanx for information! Better for would be for me some information of the Programm A3KDISKY (Yamaha A3000) !!! I payed already in Dezember 1998 a lot of money to Jay and his Teklab, but i never reached this prg from him. Stefan >-- >Jay Vaughan | >jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : >http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, >calif. _______________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 13:19:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:16:02 +0200 Subject: Re: Setups Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:44:45 EDT, Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >I just wanted to see how many of you play live with your Virus as well as in a studio. If so, please let tell what style of music, how many people in the act and what your setup consists of (equipment). For the time being I use my VIRUS in a pure single person studio environment. I use it for several reasons: - to cover analogue and retro sound I can't produce with the the other expanders - to produce weird sounds 'on the fly' - to produce 'gimmicks' for my mainly instrumantal music (clicks, tingles, bloops, noises...) I don't use the VIRUS for drum sounds due to the lack of effect possibilites. The complete environment is as follows: Expanders: Access VIRUS, Yamaha TG500, Korg M3R, Roland S220 (for sale...), Alesis D4, GEM Realpiano, PC Rebirth Recording / mixing: AKG C100S microphones, Roland VS880, Behringer 12/2 FX: VS880 effects, Boss SE70, some plugins on PC Control / Production: PC MMX200 64MB, Cubase Score VST, Wavelab, plugins, CD burning, Rebirth, drumloop and fx cd's Some older results can be heard at MP3.COM (see URL below). A new CD is in work, but work takes place mainly in the winter season. It's not the winter season now. CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 15:16:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: CarbonHaze@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:13:07 EDT Subject: Re: Setups To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CarbonHaze@aol.com My Industrial project, Carbon Haze uses my virus live and in studio. Live, I use it and a Kurzweil K2000 (which is going to probably be replaced by a Korg Triton when they become available). There are 3 of us in the band, and I play the keys and the virus, while the vocalist sings and plays a Korg Prophecy from time to time. Our drummer uses an electronic kit, triggering samples off of an ESI32 sampler. We mix it all on stage using a Roland VS880 hard disk recorder, which also plays back the humanly impossible stuff. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 19:55:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jeff Barthel" To: Subject: Virus KB as a first synth? Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:02:08 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jeff Barthel" Hi, I'm considering the purchase of the Virus KB and was curious as to what people here on the list thought about this as a user's first synth. Well, not exactly - I've used the JP8K, MC303 & 505, the Quasimidi 309. Not extensively, I might add. For a beginner, would you recommend the Virus? I want something that I won't "outgrow". I don't know how to play kb or know music composition, theory, and the like. I'm planning on using it for psy trance, possibly some industrial. Is there something else that, while not as powerful as the Virus but less expensive, would be better? I know for the price I could probably pick up a few 2nd hand pieces, but for now I want a single piece/unit that I can connect to the computer for sequencing. Any comments would be GREATLY appreciated - supposedly Waldorf is going to be at the local Guitar Center today... Thanks, Jeff ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 20:11:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:09:18 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Setups Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Where in the guitarist do you plug the MIDI cable? ;-) zs >I Have played out several times as well with a group of five or so. We had a Nord, a Korg Z-1 , a Roland JP, violin/ guitar,MY VIRUS and an MPC 600 -all into a mackie 1604. >We were all sycronized on a midi clock and I used the virus for some nice arppegiations and I also set up an arppegiated gate and played spoken word through the 16th notes with delay, chorus, distortion and filtering! The electronic ensemble was well recieved! -David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 20:55:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:54:08 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB as a first synth? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Have you considered getting a sampler instead? You almost can *never* outgrow a sampler, since the set of things you can put into it is unlimited. Samplers may be used for making fairly good synth sounds, as well as being the easiest/most flexible tool for building rythms (I say that because you mentioned wanting to make industrial). I ended up getting my Virus (the 2nd piece of real music gear) only after reading a lot about the science of synthesis, and playing with some modular software synths on my computer. Things like the Virus can be very frustrating if you don't know the ins and outs of LFOs, Oscillators, or filters -- and gets *really* complicated when you introduce things like FM, Ring Modulation, etc... You should be able to get a good sampler and keyboard controler for much less than a Virus, and you won't be stuck with canned noises like the MC303 or 505. The JP8K is a cool piece of equipment, but it's got severe limitations -- it's only 2 part multitimbral, and has only 1 set of outputs. So using that to make music, you'd have to have some sort of multitrack recorder so you can build up your mix (versus the Virus' 16 parts -- you can have it synthesizing an entire song without having to record & overdub). The 309 makes neat sounds, but like the MC 303 & 505, you're kind of stuck with a finite set of sounds (and 4/4 time). A sampler plus a Virus gives infinite possibilities... My $0.02USD -zs >I'm considering the purchase of the Virus KB and was curious as to what people here on the list thought about this as a user's first synth. Well, not exactly - I've used the JP8K, MC303 & 505, the Quasimidi 309. Not extensively, I might add. > >For a beginner, would you recommend the Virus? I want something that I won't "outgrow". I don't know how to play kb or know music composition, theory, and the like. I'm planning on using it for psy trance, possibly some industrial. > >Is there something else that, while not as powerful as the Virus but less expensive, would be better? I know for the price I could probably pick up a few 2nd hand pieces, but for now I want a single piece/unit that I can connect to the computer for sequencing. > >Any comments would be GREATLY appreciated - supposedly Waldorf is going to be at the local Guitar Center today... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 4 23:34:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:43:01 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB as a first synth? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD great choice as well as nordlead weld Jeff Barthel wrote: >* From "Jeff Barthel" > >Hi, > >I'm considering the purchase of the Virus KB and was curious as to what people here on the list thought about this as a user's first synth. Well, not exactly - I've used the JP8K, MC303 & 505, the Quasimidi 309. Not extensively, I might add. > >For a beginner, would you recommend the Virus? I want something that I won't "outgrow". I don't know how to play kb or know music composition, theory, and the like. I'm planning on using it for psy trance, possibly some industrial. > >Is there something else that, while not as powerful as the Virus but less expensive, would be better? I know for the price I could probably pick up a few 2nd hand pieces, but for now I want a single piece/unit that I can connect to the computer for sequencing. > >Any comments would be GREATLY appreciated - supposedly Waldorf is going to be at the local Guitar Center today... > >Thanks, >Jeff > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 01:48:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: i42575@inet.uni2.dk (Unverified) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:46:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Michael Subject: A GUY FROM DENMARK WITH A BIIIIG PROBLEM Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Michael I have a strange problem, and I hope some of you can help me. I have my Virus set in Multi-single-mode.. (using Cubase VST as a sequencer) If I edit a sounds delay (Clock, Feedback, Rate, Depth and shape) on for example part 8 - it ALSO takes effekt on all the other parts... Isn't it possible to have different settings on different parts? (Like delay clock 1/4 on one of the parts and delay clock 1/2 on the other? Also, when I go through the menus on a parts EDIT - sometimes I am given the CHORUS option, and sometimes - it's gone.. can you tell me why? Is CHORUS only a part of some sounds??? I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused. Sincerly, Michael ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 02:18:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:16:27 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: A GUY FROM DENMARK WITH A BIIIIG PROBLEM Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >If I edit a sounds delay (Clock, Feedback, Rate, Depth and shape) on for example part 8 - it ALSO takes effekt on all the other parts... Isn't it possible to have different settings on different parts? (Like delay clock 1/4 on one of the parts and delay clock 1/2 on the other? the Virus only has 1 delay setting per Multi... >Also, when I go through the menus on a parts EDIT - sometimes I am given the CHORUS option, and sometimes - it's gone.. can you tell me why? Is CHORUS only a part of some sounds??? only the first 4 parts in a multi get chorus... -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 05:52:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [147.174.234.126] From: Robert Carr To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Silly question, but.... Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:49:54 CDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Robert Carr ............but I'm a college student who slaves for every penny he earns and therefore has to be a bit of a penny-pincher...... Anyway, just wondering if any of the Stateside list members know where I can pick up a Virus without draining my entire account......... BOB CARR RPM Director KSLU 90.9 FM Southeastern Louisiana University _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 06:25:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:22:46 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Setups Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM I play with a guitarist who uses the Roland VG-8 MIDI guitar system. He has played the Virus using it...didn't sound to cool though. DTM. Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >Where in the guitarist do you plug the MIDI cable? > >;-) >zs > >>I Have played out several times as well with a group of five or so. We had a Nord, a Korg Z-1 , a Roland JP, violin/ guitar,MY VIRUS and an MPC 600 -all into a mackie 1604. >>We were all sycronized on a midi clock and I used the virus for some nice arppegiations and I also set up an arppegiated gate and played spoken word through the 16th notes with delay, chorus, distortion and filtering! The electronic ensemble was well recieved! -David >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 20:48:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:20:22 +0300 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: Setups Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen I play live and in studio, any kind of music. When playing live I use Korg X5! (worst thing is the keyboard itself, after I learned to program my Korg, I made some very useful sounds) with Virus connected to MK 61 midikeyboard. Both synths are run through Mackie 1202 VLZ. I try to make things work without carrying a lot of cases. I play mostly with a finnish rock band CMX, two guitars, bass and drums. At 17:44 3.6.1999 EDT, you wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >I just wanted to see how many of you play live with your Virus as well as in a studio. If so, please let tell what style of music, how many people in the >act and what your setup consists of (equipment). I am hoping to start playing live soon and just wanted to see what any of you were doing. > >Lates, >Daniel >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 20:33:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Posted-Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:31:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mark Jensen" To: Subject: Re: Silly question, but.... Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:29:02 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Jensen" The cheapest place I've seen it is in Music Central in Mpls - granted I've don't have anything else so go on but one shop in Seattle and the list price advertized in kybd magazine. I picked mine up for around $1300 (with MN state tax) - I saw it in Seattle for $1600 and I think the list price in kybd was about the same... here's Music centrals website http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ Mark -----Original Message----- From: Robert Carr To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 11:27 PM Subject: Silly question, but.... >* From Robert Carr > >............but I'm a college student who slaves for every penny he earns and therefore has to be a bit of a penny-pincher...... > >Anyway, just wondering if any of the Stateside list members know where I can >pick up a Virus without draining my entire account......... > >BOB CARR >RPM Director >KSLU 90.9 FM >Southeastern Louisiana University > > >_______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 20:59:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 15:09:06 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Silly question, but.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD shop around you can get em for 1195$ U.S. now, or wait for the keyboard until july for around 1600$ weld Mark Jensen wrote: >* From "Mark Jensen" > >The cheapest place I've seen it is in Music Central in Mpls - granted I've don't have anything else so go on but one shop in Seattle and the list price advertized in kybd magazine. > >I picked mine up for around $1300 (with MN state tax) - I saw it in Seattle for $1600 and I think the list price in kybd was about the same... > >here's Music centrals website > >http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ > >Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Carr To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 11:27 PM >Subject: Silly question, but.... > >>* From Robert Carr >> >>............but I'm a college student who slaves for every penny he earns and therefore has to be a bit of a penny-pincher...... >> >>Anyway, just wondering if any of the Stateside list members know where I >can >>pick up a Virus without draining my entire account......... >> >>BOB CARR >>RPM Director >>KSLU 90.9 FM >>Southeastern Louisiana University >> >> >>_______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 5 22:01:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Martin Selway" To: Subject: Re: A GUY FROM DENMARK WITH A BIIIIG PROBLEM Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:57:33 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Selway" In Danish: Det står i Virus anmeldesen i SoundCheck nr.11 - "I multi mode er Delay en global parameter og Chorus er kun forbeholdt de første fire parts" MARTIN ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael To: Sent: 5. juni 1999 01:46 Subject: A GUY FROM DENMARK WITH A BIIIIG PROBLEM >* From Michael > >I have a strange problem, and I hope some of you can help me. > >I have my Virus set in Multi-single-mode.. (using Cubase VST as a sequencer) > >If I edit a sounds delay (Clock, Feedback, Rate, Depth and shape) on for example part 8 - it ALSO takes effekt on all the other parts... Isn't it possible to have different settings on different parts? (Like delay clock 1/4 on one of the parts and delay clock 1/2 on the other? > >Also, when I go through the menus on a parts EDIT - sometimes I am given the CHORUS option, and sometimes - it's gone.. can you tell me why? Is CHORUS only a part of some sounds??? > >I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused. > >Sincerly, >Michael > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 6 02:13:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "|-OLOGR/M_R|NSE" To: Subject: Re: Silly question, but.... Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:16:22 -0700 Organization: re/se/arch_(P)arc X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "|-OLOGR/M_R|NSE" Also check out http://music.recycler.com/ It's an online off shoot of a Southern Ca weekly paper that sells sells everything under the sun. I saw about a month ago a virus w/ all the manuals, etc for $900. About a year ago I saw a Lead2 keyboard for $1000 and it ended up selling for also $900. I'm just saying this to let ya know what prices some of this stuff has been going for there. goodluck. GmmA (<>..<>) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Carr To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 11:27 PM >Subject: Silly question, but.... > > >>* From Robert Carr >> >>............but I'm a college student who slaves for every penny he earns and therefore has to be a bit of a penny-pincher...... >> >>Anyway, just wondering if any of the Stateside list members know where I >can >>pick up a Virus without draining my entire account......... >> >>BOB CARR >>RPM Director >>KSLU 90.9 FM >>Southeastern Louisiana University >> >> >>_______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 6 12:26:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Wilco Agterhuis" To: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:23:03 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness index access-list X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 6 13:50:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Frankfurt Virologiscal Congress Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:47:19 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Any Virologists from the Frankfurt/Main area are invited to meet in McGowans Irish Pub, central Bad Vilbel, any time we can agree on. The object is to see how long we can talk sensibly about synthesizers and swap Virus-expertise/sounds before Mr. Guinness takes over! Alle Virologen aus dem Raum Frankfurt/M sind zum Bad Vilbeler Altstadt (McGowans Irish Pub) eingeladen, Termin nach Absprache. Das Ziel ist herauszufinden, wie lange man über Synthesizer vernünftig reden kann und Virus-Kenntnisse/Sounds austauschen, bis Herr Guinness die Überhand nimmt! Howard Scarr (and Jason Browne and Oliver Szigan and...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 6 14:14:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Wilco Agterhuis" To: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:11:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness index X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 6 22:10:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: CarbonHaze@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:06:45 EDT Subject: Re: A GUY FROM DENMARK WITH A BIIIIG PROBLEM To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CarbonHaze@aol.com you should read the manual The delay effect is the same for all parts in a multi - regardless of their individual settings. Also, the chorus is only available for the first 4 parts in a multi -- all other parts will have no chorus. this is all explained in the manual Tony ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 00:27:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: i42575@inet.uni2.dk Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:27:18 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Michael Subject: THANX FROM DENMARK Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Michael Thanx for the answers everyone... I borrowed this virus, and I havn't got the manual with it... so that's why. But now I know that this list is actually a big help.. THANX ALL.. Michael. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 04:12:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: AcrystDM@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:05:34 EDT Subject: Help with Vocoder To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From AcrystDM@aol.com i finally just upgraded my virus from 1.5 to 2.51. How do you get the vocoder to sound good on vocals. When i run vocals through it just sounds like a big wash out, nothing intelligible whatsover. Can someone send me a good patch to use for vox? Also I can't load the second midi file on the 2.51 upgrade, everytime it fails and i've tried many, many times. Some help would be appreciated, thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 09:25:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:26:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Wagner" i also have probs with the vocoder...no real effects when i turn knobs (maybe i´m just too dumb for it ; ( ) maybe it doesn´t even sound good enough for respectable results... on the keyboards cd where they featured the vocoder when the new OS was out the demos also didn´t sound really good.... is that really because of the virus or is it just that no one is able to program that thing ? any experiences from other users would be helpful..... king regards mark ; ) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: An: Gesendet: Montag, 7. Juni 1999 04:05 Betreff: Help with Vocoder >* From AcrystDM@aol.com > >i finally just upgraded my virus from 1.5 to 2.51. How do you get the vocoder >to sound good on vocals. When i run vocals through it just sounds like a big >wash out, nothing intelligible whatsover. Can someone send me a good patch to >use for vox? Also I can't load the second midi file on the 2.51 upgrade, everytime it fails and i've tried many, many times. Some help would be appreciated, thanks. > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 10:42:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:39:46 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:26 AM +0200 on 07.06.1999 Mark Wagner wrote: >i also have probs with the vocoder...no real effects when i turn knobs (maybe i´m just too dumb for it ; ( ) > >maybe it doesn´t even sound good enough for respectable results... > >on the keyboards cd where they featured the vocoder when the new OS was out the demos also didn´t sound really good.... > >is that really because of the virus or is it just that no one is able to program that thing ? > >any experiences from other users would be helpful..... why don't you try out the presets (in bank C, I believe they are) that demonstrate the vocoder patches nicely. Just remember that this vocoder is not modelled to sound like the EMS vocoder, it sounds a lot different than things like the plugin Orange Vocoder. Still it's a great vocoder and getting a different sound from what is well known is an advantage, I think. But the vocoder sounds nice and some of the patches included in the factory presets demonstrate its capabilities nicely. Just try it! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 11:41:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:37:53 +0200 Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness ---------------------- Forwarded by Jason BROWNE/Finance/DE/PARIBAS on 07.06.99 11:29 --------------------------- TRY THE PATCH "WALKER" REALLY MAKES YOUR DRUMS MOVE. I GUESS THE VOCODER ISN T MADE FOR VOCALS IT S MORE FOR BEATS ! Internet From: canine@muenster.de on 07.06.99 08:39 GMT Please respond to access-list@teklab.com To: access-list cc: bcc: Jason BROWNE Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne reprÈsente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous rÈserve de tout accord conclu par Ècrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, mÍme partielle, doit Ítre autorisÈe prÈalablement. Si vous n'Ítes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immÈdiatement l'expÈditeur. * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:26 AM +0200 on 07.06.1999 Mark Wagner wrote: >i also have probs with the vocoder...no real effects when i turn knobs (maybe i´m just too dumb for it ; ( ) > >maybe it doesn´t even sound good enough for respectable results... > >on the keyboards cd where they featured the vocoder when the new OS was out the demos also didn´t sound really good.... > >is that really because of the virus or is it just that no one is able to program that thing ? > >any experiences from other users would be helpful..... why don't you try out the presets (in bank C, I believe they are) that demonstrate the vocoder patches nicely. Just remember that this vocoder is not modelled to sound like the EMS vocoder, it sounds a lot different than things like the plugin Orange Vocoder. Still it's a great vocoder and getting a different sound from what is well known is an advantage, I think. But the vocoder sounds nice and some of the patches included in the factory presets demonstrate its capabilities nicely. Just try it! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 12:07:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:59:09 +0200 Subject: Sampler ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Hi, I thinking of getting me a Sampler and I'm very keen of purchasing the E MU ESI 4000 Turbo ( got a great offer ) Would anyone recommend this piece of equip or is there better in this price range of approx. 1.000 £ .*Akai or Yam3000 Important for me is a big liabary. Good sound and being able to play Samples over the whole keyboard without change of length and having to make a Sample for every Note ? or insn`t this possible ? cheers Jason ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne représente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 11:04:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:00:52 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" This is not a problem of the virus vocoder. IMHO there is no vocoder that sounds good ;-) Regards Stefan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mark Wagner An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Montag, 7. Juni 1999 09:58 Betreff: Re: Help with Vocoder * From "Mark Wagner" i also have probs with the vocoder...no real effects when i turn knobs (maybe i´m just too dumb for it ; ( ) maybe it doesn´t even sound good enough for respectable results... on the keyboards cd where they featured the vocoder when the new OS was out the demos also didn´t sound really good.... is that really because of the virus or is it just that no one is able to program that thing ? any experiences from other users would be helpful..... king regards mark ; ) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 12:25:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: future of a3k-list To: music-bar@teklab.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: a3k-list@tl36.teklab.com, access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Erwin Timmerman wrote: >>Personally I think that the forum is nice for newbies looking for info, because they cannot read the mails that have been sent in the past, and on the forum they can. But for regular discussion I think the lists are nicer, because WWW is slower and it takes up more computer resources to load a browser than just a mailer. And because it's more easy to reply through private mail on the list. >I have to agree with this assessment. Email is much more convienient to deal with, as its a 'push' medium to some extent, as opposed to web sites which you have to remember to check. In fact I am of the opinion that the two should be merged as much as possible. I don't think its a great idea to bifurcate the resources. scot. > I agree with you both - certainly, diverging the resources is not the plan. I fully intend to integrate the web forums with the mailing list; this will happen in the near future, I can assure you. One of the most important (to me anyway) reasons I have set up the web forums is to attempt to alleviate my overfilled inbox - which is currently filled with messages from newbie sampler/Internet users asking me either a) how to get on the list, b) how to get off the list, c) how to use their sampler, and d) "can I just ask you because I don't want to go through the hassle of subscribing to a mailing list for just one question, and you're such a nice bloke I'm sure you'll have time to answer this one question - how do I set up a multi on my A3k?"-type messages, of which I have received (and ignored) a great deal in the last few months. These sorts of people now have somewhere to go, and through the grace of some of the kinder and more helpful list members, perhaps they'll get good answers. Another purpose for the forums, and a good one imho, is to post really good tips and tricks to them - sort of 'putting the best of the list on the web for people to read and find with search engines'. This is quite handy, I think, and I'd certainly like to see more of it. It gives us (all list members) a way of developing a 'knowledge-base' resource (wow, remember them?) without having to formalize a web-posting process - pretty much anyone can put their best work up there on the web to be discovered with search engines, etc. It'd also work as an announcement resource for new songs too - when you upload a sample set or a song, simply update the forums so we can all check 'em and find out whats new without having to scroll through the entirety of a mailing list mailbox. Ummm... so, lets not get into major discussions about whether the web forums are right or wrong. They serve their purpose, and I will definitely be integrating the mailing list with the forums much more in the near future. And hopefully the web forums will prove to be valuable to newcomers to the list too. j. -- Jay Vaughan TekLab jv@teklab.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 21:19:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:10:17 +0200 From: Jörg Wessels X-Accept-Language: de, en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Wessels >Wilco Agterhuis schrieb: > >index OOaahh ---- is this supposed to be like a - hehe - joke or something? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 22:28:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Wilco Agterhuis" To: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:14:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness The Virus is a very very inspiring synth, no other instrument I had before kept me so long from the street !!! The only thing that dissapoints me a little bit is the string sound, it is not as rich a f.i. the JP 8080 (for the rest the virus is much much better) Has anyone used the new options, like the modulation matrix, to improve the string sounds (richer, smoother,etc) ? Maybe other suggestions ? X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 21:19:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:19:18 +0200 From: Jörg Wessels X-Accept-Language: de, en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sampler ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Wessels Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com schrieb: >This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a I wonder why somone should send a *confidential* message to a *public* mailing-list. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 23:03:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:01:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness The Virus is a very very inspiring synth, no other instrument I had before kept me so long from the street !!! The only thing that dissapoints me a little bit is the string sound, it is not as rich a f.i. the JP 8080 (for the rest the virus is much much better) Has anyone used the new options, like the modulation matrix, to improve the string sounds (richer, smoother,etc) ? Maybe other suggestions ? Yes, a ensemble function which will definitely richen the string sounds. Okay it can be done with the LFO's too, but it would be easier. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 23:07:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:05:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill I agree it seems like the vocoder is more effective on beats-- but I was also thinking that maybe voice input just requires careful arrangement of the frequency bands. I'm new to vocoders, so I'm just guessing here. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 23:13:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:12:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Stronger Strings Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Good question-- maybe somebody has some string patches that thjey could post? On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Wilco Agterhuis wrote: >The Virus is a very very inspiring synth, no other instrument I had before kept me so long from the street !!! The only thing that dissapoints me a little bit is the string sound, it is not as rich a f.i. the JP 8080 (for the rest the virus is much much better) Has anyone used the new options, like the modulation matrix, to improve the string sounds (richer, smoother,etc) ? Maybe other suggestions ? > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 7 23:49:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:57:14 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Stronger Strings Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD theres supposedly some good ones out there but the owner wont post them, just brags : ) weld Aaron E Havill wrote: >* From Aaron E Havill > >Good question-- >maybe somebody has some string patches that thjey could post? > >On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Wilco Agterhuis wrote: > >>The Virus is a very very inspiring synth, no other instrument I had before kept me so long from the street !!! The only thing that dissapoints me a little bit is the string sound, it is not as rich a f.i. the JP 8080 (for the rest the virus is much much better) Has anyone used the new options, like the modulation matrix, to improve the string sounds (richer, smoother,etc) ? Maybe other suggestions ? >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 00:11:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:09:37 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Vocoder Ideas (was: Help with Vocoder) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp I've found that the Vocoder has more uses than just for processing voices ... Try this: Set up a vocoder patch with a synthy-sound (like Voc Waves or Voc Tube), grab a mic and a drum (like a tabla) and give it a shot ... Triggering the synth patch with a hand-drum makes some *very* interesting sounds ... try hitting it with alternating, hard and soft rhythmic strikes. A really hard strike occasionally can make for very expressive sounding synth-rythms. Try pressing different chords on your controller while you're playing with one hand. Neat, eh? If you don't have a drum, you can tap the mic for a similar effect (although the resonance of the drum is interesting). If you haven't already, download and print the Virus manual addendum that includes a description of the Vocoder's controls ... it's helped me immensely with designing vocoder sounds. http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/download/virus_addendum_20e.pdf -zs >I agree it seems like the vocoder is more effective on beats-- but I was also thinking that maybe voice input just requires careful arrangement of the frequency bands. > >I'm new to vocoders, so I'm just guessing here. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 00:33:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:42:54 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoder Ideas (was: Help with Vocoder) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD this is how i use both my virus and nord modular vocoders. also on the virus i use it for controlling pads with my voice tres cool!!! weld Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >I've found that the Vocoder has more uses than just for processing voices ... > >Try this: >Set up a vocoder patch with a synthy-sound (like Voc Waves or Voc Tube), grab a mic and a drum (like a tabla) and give it a shot ... > >Triggering the synth patch with a hand-drum makes some *very* interesting sounds ... try hitting it with alternating, hard and soft rhythmic strikes. A really hard strike occasionally can make for very expressive sounding synth-rythms. > >Try pressing different chords on your controller while you're playing with one hand. Neat, eh? > >If you don't have a drum, you can tap the mic for a similar effect (although the resonance of the drum is interesting). > >If you haven't already, download and print the Virus manual addendum that includes a description of the Vocoder's controls ... it's helped me immensely with designing vocoder sounds. http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/download/virus_addendum_20e.pdf > >-zs > >>I agree it seems like the vocoder is more effective on beats-- but I was also thinking that maybe voice input just requires careful arrangement of the frequency bands. >> >>I'm new to vocoders, so I'm just guessing here. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 02:21:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Europe Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:10:22 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Hi, I am thinking of moving from San Francisco to Amsterdam. I am wondering what to do with my Virus. I do not have a euro power supply and also there is a small manufacturing problem needing a chip replacement which I did not do yet. I am worried that this will be a pain to sort out if I bring it to Europe, I wonder if I should fix and sell the Virus in the US (For Maybe $900-$1000) and buy another one in Europe? Or is this a silly idea? Actually I am also wondering about pro audio prices in Europe, I have the Virus and my sampler which I really want to keep, an English mixing desk which is a bit large but I could transport and two speakers. Everything should work on Euro voltage but I am worried about transporting it. That is risky and costs money, but maybe it would cost more to sell and replace in Europe? Does anybody have experience with this issue, I am not good at this kind of thing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 22:27:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:42:25 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "Erik van 't Woud" Subject: Re: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Erik van 't Woud" At 17:10 7-6-99 -0700, you wrote: >I am thinking of moving from San Francisco to Amsterdam. Oops ;-) >I am wondering >what to do with my Virus. I do not have a euro power supply and also there is a small manufacturing problem needing a chip replacement which I did not do yet. I am worried that this will be a pain to sort out if I bring it to Europe, I wonder if I should fix and sell the Virus in the US (For Maybe $900-$1000) and buy another one in Europe? Or is this a silly idea? Maybe you can take it with you and send it to Acces when you are in Europe. Maybe this will cost you 30-50 dollar for shipping costs. (I don't know what they'll charge you for the power supply) >Actually I am also wondering about pro audio prices in Europe, I have the Prices in Holland are pretty steep, so consider bringing your own gear and have the voltage adjusted with a transformer or a new power supply. Bye, Erik. ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- Erik van 't Woud erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 18:04:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 07:39:02 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >Hi, >I am thinking of moving from San Francisco to Amsterdam. My commiserations. I lived in Holland for the first 26 years of my life. Can't recommend it. Now I'm in San Francisco. This is definitely the better direction of moving, if you like sunshine, mountains and a deep blue ocean. I hope you like it cold, wet and windy, flat as a pancake, and have you ever *seen* the North Sea? - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 17 00:19:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: Gerald Thomson To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 01:16:29 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Thomson I don't really have any experience with moving stuff, but I wouldn't recommend selling it all, the buying replacements. Pro-audio is pretty cheap in England compared to the rest of Europe, but becuase of VAT it is still pretty expensive compared to the US. And oh, euro power supplys can be bought everywhere. In airports for example. >* From "Anig Browl" > >Hi, > >I am thinking of moving from San Francisco to Amsterdam. I am wondering what to do with my Virus. I do not have a euro power supply and also there is a small manufacturing problem needing a chip replacement which I did not do yet. I am worried that this will be a pain to sort out if I bring it to Europe, I wonder if I should fix and sell the Virus in the US (For Maybe $900-$1000) and buy another one in Europe? Or is this a silly idea? > >Actually I am also wondering about pro audio prices in Europe, I have the Virus and my sampler which I really want to keep, an English mixing desk which is a bit large but I could transport and two speakers. Everything should work on Euro voltage but I am worried about transporting it. That is risky and costs money, but maybe it would cost more to sell and replace in Europe? Does anybody have experience with this issue, I am not good at this kind of thing. > >Anig Browl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 10:41:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Chris van der Merwe To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Europe Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:40:00 +0200 Organization: Arnes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris van der Merwe Hi; I've had to move my stuff around alot, a few times to London, coupla times to Zurich etc. I hate doing it aswell but I think you should keep what you can of your equipement (unless you have more money than you know what to do with). I normally put stuff that can handle a beating in the hold e.g. my mackie and my guitar's all have sturdy hard cases. I then carry a LARGE handluggage bag (and pretend it doesn't weight 50kg!) In the handluggage bag I put my Virus, effect proccessor and other guests that are coming along for the ride: motherboards, soundcards, stomp boxes etc. Last time I travelled I simply shoved my EMU e6400 under my arm (I guess I looked like someone really attached to their video machine). If customs want to chat (hardly ever in the EU) let them know you're going to take the stuff out the country again (fib if you have to!). I'm normally about twice over weight allotment. But I've never had to pay (and normally I've also got my snowboard in the hold too!!!) It's kinda stressful but the beer on the planes always free! Basically figure out whether the cost of transporting your gear will be more than selling your stuff (probably at a loss) and then buying it again. Hope this gives you at least some comfort - you're not alone. Good Luck Chris Check out the Damn Funkies: http://mp3.com/artists/21/damn_funkies.html -----Original Message----- From: Anig Browl [SMTP:eddy@anig-browl.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 2:10 AM To: access-list Subject: Europe * From "Anig Browl" Hi, I am thinking of moving from San Francisco to Amsterdam. I am wondering what to do with my Virus. I do not have a euro power supply and also there is a small manufacturing problem needing a chip replacement which I did not do yet. I am worried that this will be a pain to sort out if I bring it to Europe, I wonder if I should fix and sell the Virus in the US (For Maybe $900-$1000) and buy another one in Europe? Or is this a silly idea? Actually I am also wondering about pro audio prices in Europe, I have the Virus and my sampler which I really want to keep, an English mixing desk which is a bit large but I could transport and two speakers. Everything should work on Euro voltage but I am worried about transporting it. That is risky and costs money, but maybe it would cost more to sell and replace in Europe? Does anybody have experience with this issue, I am not good at this kind of thing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 12:30:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:18:20 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" I'm surprised that none of the presets give you that "Intergalactic Planetary" sound, which the Virus is quite capable of. Try it! >why don't you try out the presets (in bank C, I believe they are) that demonstrate the vocoder patches nicely. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 13:35:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mikael Hansson" To: Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:34:57 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mikael Hansson" >why don't you try out the presets (in bank C, I believe they are) that demonstrate the vocoder patches nicely. Which presets? I must be missing something here. I believe I upgraded the factory sounds when I installed v2.01 but it probably went wrong somehow. Shouldn´t I have got them in banks C and D with release 2.5 anyway? /Micke ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 19:59:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Europe Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:49:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >My commiserations. I lived in Holland for the first 26 years of my life. Can't recommend it. Now I'm in San Francisco. This is definitely the >better direction of moving, if you like sunshine, mountains and a deep blue ocean. >I hope you like it cold, wet and windy, flat as a pancake, and have you ever >*seen* the North Sea? Sure, I am from Ireland :-) On the other hand I am illegal in the USA so it is a pain to find work etc. even though I have a lot of computer skills. I am really tired of looking for all my work under the table. Plus there is more of an electronic music scene in Europe I think...how long ago did you move? I am interested in getting more detail. Since I am still in SF maybe we could have a chance to meet? Regards, Eddy ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 20:19:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:17:34 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Help with Vocoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp how about putting your Intergalactic patch somewhere that we can d/l it? I'm curious what your settings are... -zs >* From "Howard Scarr" > >I'm surprised that none of the presets give you that "Intergalactic Planetary" sound, which the Virus is quite capable of. Try it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 20:57:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Europe Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:46:42 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Oops...that last comment should have been via private mail, sorry. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 8 23:19:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Europe Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:08:34 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Access tell me I can get the Virus treated in Europe :) Erik Van 't Woud wrote... >Prices in Holland are pretty steep, so consider bringing your own gear and have the voltage adjusted with a transformer or a new power supply. Many people have said this to me, although I am beginning to think that evryone thinks it is expensive where they are :-) I am curious, what is the price of a Virus in Holland? Here the list price is ~$1600 and the street price is about $1200. From looking at adverts in magazines and comparing prices I think that only American and some Japanese gear is cheaper in America. since I like Access, Clavia, Waldorf and Kurzweil gear very much these are actually looking abit cheaper in Europe. My English mixer is much cheaper in England than here (maybe 25% cheaper) even including the taxes. I am still deciding and will appreciate any private comments from list members on this subject. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 00:14:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: RE: Europe Date: Wed, 9 Jun 99 00:11:42 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" lexicon is fairly expensive in europe, at least in comparison to the US prices. in the end the shipping+taxes makes it complicated to ensure the same prices all over the planet. in germany you can't buy a virus for ~$1600 these days. england is somewhat different these days. everything seems to be really expensive... by the way: if you really want to move back to europe you have to accept that at least here you got no "free re-fill" at McDonalds :-) (maybe there're a few other minor things to worry about) cheers, marc >* From "Anig Browl" > >Access tell me I can get the Virus treated in Europe :) > >Erik Van 't Woud wrote... >>Prices in Holland are pretty steep, so consider bringing your own gear and have the voltage adjusted with a transformer or a new power supply. > >Many people have said this to me, although I am beginning to think that evryone thinks it is expensive where they are :-) > >I am curious, what is the price of a Virus in Holland? Here the list price is ~$1600 and the street price is about $1200. From looking at adverts in magazines and comparing prices I think that only American and some Japanese gear is cheaper in America. since I like Access, Clavia, Waldorf and Kurzweil gear very much these are actually looking abit cheaper in Europe. My English mixer is much cheaper in England than here (maybe 25% cheaper) even including the taxes. > >I am still deciding and will appreciate any private comments from list members on this subject. > >Anig Browl > >___________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 01:11:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Europe Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:00:39 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Marc wrote... >lexicon is fairly expensive in europe, at least in comparison to the US prices. Since Lexicon is an American company that is hardly surprising :-) I might actually try to pick up their MPX100 effects before leaving at the US price... >same prices all over the planet. in germany you can't buy a virus for ~$1600 these days. england is somewhat different these days. everything seems to be really expensive... Not going by the adverts in the magazines...it sems fairly competitive with the US to me. >by the way: if you really want to move back to europe you have to accept that at least here you got no "free re-fill" at McDonalds :-) (maybe there're a few other minor things to worry about) Since I never eat at McDonals this will not bother me too much :-) The main thing I will miss aboot the US is my group of friends here (who are all going to visit me there) and non-dairy smoothies... Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 01:39:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:36:59 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Lexicon (was Europe) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Since Lexicon is an American company that is hardly surprising :-) I might actually try to pick up their MPX100 effects before leaving at the US price... good decision! for $220 it's a great, versatile little box!!! loving my MPX100, zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 03:51:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Sampler ? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:45:54 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi list, >I wonder why somone should send a *confidential* message to a *public* mailing-list. Wasn't that a *stupid* signature? Excessive legalism is for pithy idiots. Note that such incorrect usage, decreases the real legal strength... Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 14:23:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:18:21 +0200 Subject: Re[2]: Sampler ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Dear nosy Parker's, This confidential message gets produced automatically, because I'm mailing from work !!!Sorry.....and no were not the MI5 or CIA ...& your not under surveillance so you can answer with out any doubt !!! Joerg ..we know your out there.... 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Si vous n'Ítes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immÈdiatement l'expÈditeur. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 14:58:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Vocoder sound Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:58:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I know I'm not supposed to send attachments to mailing lists, but it's so small, and I don't have my own site (still lazy after all these years). Simple, isn't it? The important thing is not to set the resonance too high. >* From Zack Steinkamp how about putting your Intergalactic patch somewhere that we can d/l it? Content-Type: audio/mid; name="Planetary.mid" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Planetary.mid" Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:Planetary.mid (Midi/anon) (0000B13B)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 16:04:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: GUILBERT Jean-Pierre To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Re[2]: Sampler ? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:54:33 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From GUILBERT Jean-Pierre Unsubscribe me of your list thank >-----Message d'origine----- >De: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com [SMTP:Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com] Date: mercredi 9 juin 1999 09:18 >À: access-list@teklab.com >Objet: Re[2]: Sampler ? > >* From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com > > > >Dear nosy Parker's, > >This confidential message gets produced automatically, because I'm mailing from work !!!Sorry.....and no were not the MI5 or CIA ...& your not >under surveillance so you can answer with out any doubt !!! > >Joerg ..we know your out there.... > > > > > > > >Internet > >From: thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz on 09.06.99 01:45 GMT > > > >Please respond to access-list@teklab.com To: access-list > >cc: > >bcc: Jason BROWNE > >Subject: Re: Sampler ? > > > > >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >Hi list, > >>I wonder why somone should send a *confidential* message to a *public* mailing-list. > >Wasn't that a *stupid* signature? > >Excessive legalism is for pithy idiots. Note that such incorrect usage, >decreases the real legal strength... > > >Cheers, >Thomas > >______________________________________________________________________ _____ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- >This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement > >between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. > >Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne représente en aucun cas un >engagement de la part de Paribas sous réserve de tout accord conclu par >écrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement >l'expéditeur. >______________________________________________________________________ _____ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 16:41:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:32:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: attachments Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >I know I'm not supposed to send attachments to mailing lists, but it's so small, and I don't have my own site (still lazy after all these years). Wouldn't it be better if we could use attachments for this small patches, on the northlead modular list these attachments are allowed, so there is a big exchange happening. I like to make my on sounds, but it's always intresting to hear what other people are capable of...and i think that maybe most people will easier share there sounds if they could just attach them and not have to put them on a webpage. just my 0.02$ greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 21:27:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:24:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Knob Replacement Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill It's not something I need to do now, thankfully, but I was wondering: Given that the Virus is designed in a way that encourages "playing" it (ie not just editing parameters to make a fixed tone, but setting up patches to be manipulated live) I've been worried that I might wear out a knob or two after using it for a while. How hard will it be to replace a given knob? Has anyone had a knob wear out? I'd just feel a little more relaxed doing "tricks" with knob movements if I knew that a worn knob could be fixed easily (like a DJ replacing his crossfader, although I imagine that's a bit more straightforward) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 9 22:39:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:36:24 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "Erik van 't Woud" Subject: RE: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Erik van 't Woud" At 14:08 8-6-99 -0700, you wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > >Access tell me I can get the Virus treated in Europe :) That's what I thought... Very nice of Acces.... >Erik Van 't Woud wrote... >>Prices in Holland are pretty steep, so consider bringing your own gear and have the voltage adjusted with a transformer or a new power supply. > >Many people have said this to me, although I am beginning to think that evryone thinks it is expensive where they are :-) Holland is really expensive when it comes to HiTech gear, cars and camera's... ;-) >I am curious, what is the price of a Virus in Holland? Here the list price About 1600 to 1700 dollars.... But it isn't sold in many shops.... >I am still deciding and will appreciate any private comments from list members on this subject. I still wonder why someone decides to come to Amsterdam ;-) Byebye, Erik. ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- Erik van 't Woud erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 10 03:09:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Re : Mod Matrix sound f--- out Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:03:38 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Christoph, night before last I had a similar problem to earlier. I was working with patch A0 Overture and the Mod Matrix, trying some gating type effects from Mod Wheel to OscMainVol and Filter Cutoff. While in the Mod Matrix menus, sequencer running, twiddling the Mod Wheel & adjusting assign amounts, the sound went thin & buzzy. I went to the Compare mode, thinking I could easily fix it, but got no sound from either Original or Edited patch. I tried double-tapping both Transpose buttons, and both LFO Shape buttons, but couldn't recover it. I ended up switching the Virus off & on. Later I had no sound from some other patch, and after checking the volume found it was outputting on Aux 1. So maybe A0 Overture got switched to Aux myseteriously as well? Well, as a software developer myself, I can see that this isn't going to be a very helpful bug report. You get that :-) Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 10 09:31:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: Gerald Thomson To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Europe Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:29:13 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Thomson >I still wonder why someone decides to come to Amsterdam ;-) Because it's an absolutety breathtaking city, with lots of life and coffeeshops on every corner? > >Byebye, >Erik. Gerald ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 10 13:23:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:22:02 +0200 From: Thommen Kaspar 215971 Subject: Noise & Distortion To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thommen Kaspar 215971 Hi there, I hava a little problem with my Virus: How is it possible to distort Noise? When I want to distort it, I have to turn up Osc Vol, but I don't want any Osc's in the Sound! Bye, Kaspar ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 10 13:52:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Noise & Distortion Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:50:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I hava a little problem with my Virus: How is it possible to distort Noise? When I want to distort it, I have to turn up Osc Vol, but I don't want any Osc's in the Sound! >Bye, Kaspar Dead easy. Set Osc1 shape to square, PW to 12, Osc Bal to 1. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 10 16:18:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:14:42 +0200 From: Thommen Kaspar 215971 Subject: Re: Noise & Distortion To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thommen Kaspar 215971 Howard Scarr wrote: >Dead easy. Set Osc1 shape to square, PW to 12, Osc Bal to 1. Damned, why didn't I get this myself ;-) Bye, Kaspar ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 10 17:35:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:32:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill One word: weed. On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Gerald Thomson wrote: >* From Gerald Thomson > > > > > > >>I still wonder why someone decides to come to Amsterdam ;-) > >Because it's an absolutety breathtaking city, with lots of life and coffeeshops on every corner? > >> >>Byebye, >>Erik. > >Gerald > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 11 01:09:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Europe Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:04:10 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >Because it's an absolutety breathtaking city, with lots of life and coffeeshops on every corner? Cunning code deciphered : breathtaking : smoking dope lots of life : maybe beforehand coffeeshops : dope cafe corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people remind me of Woodstock, man... I imagine the Dutch are amused. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 11 11:33:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:41:37 +0200 Subject: Virus Sounds Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com I have wondered how Sounds get produced for the VIRUS ? I know that you can create your own Sounds on e.g. Init 127 then screw around with filters and LFO´s and get some real good Sounds But a lot of Sounds are not produced this way I guess? Is there any Software needed and is it expensive ? Thanks for your answers and ignore the attachment. cheers Jason ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by Paribas except where provided for in a written agreement between you and Paribas. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. Ce message est confidentiel ; son contenu ne représente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de Paribas sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et Paribas. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 11 11:09:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: Gerald Thomson To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:06:47 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Thomson Well what can I say to my defense? Amsterdam IS the hippie-place of modern Europe. And I do like weed. Quite a lot actually. But you gotta admit it's one of the most beautiful cities of Europe, London's just a chaotic clash of different architectural styles, but that has it's own charm as well. >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >>Because it's an absolutety breathtaking city, with lots of life and coffeeshops on every corner? > >Cunning code deciphered : > >breathtaking : smoking dope >lots of life : maybe beforehand >coffeeshops : dope cafe >corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop > >Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people remind me of Woodstock, man... > >I imagine the Dutch are amused. > > >Cheers, >Thomas > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 11 13:12:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:40:07 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Virus Sounds WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl HellO! All sounds were once made by tweaking the knobs. But note that there's a lot more things to change next to what you see on the front. By using all those functions wisely you can get to aany new sound. There are some other ways to make a new sound, by using sounds-banks written by e.g. Rob Papen (see canine's page for URL), or by using the Logic environment (see also Canine's page) written for the virus. It's a bit comparable to the MAC-PC /Nord modular combination. But all in all, you can create these sounds yourself. There's still just one thing you really need: A good ear. Dimitri. Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com schreef: I have wondered how Sounds get produced for the VIRUS ? I know that you can create your own Sounds on e.g. Init 127 then screw around with filters and LFO´s and get some real good Sounds But a lot of Sounds are not produced this way I guess? Is there any Software needed and is it expensive ? Thanks for your answers and ignore the attachment. cheers Jason ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 11 16:20:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Virus Sounds Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:16:46 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" What are you talking about? Most of the Virus's power is accessed via the front panel. There are more parameters that can only be accessed via the menu system, but every bit of sonic bliss that the Virus will produce can be accessed via the knobs, buttons and menus... Rick I have wondered how Sounds get produced for the VIRUS ? I know that you can create your own Sounds on e.g. Init 127 then screw around with filters and LFO´s and get some real good Sounds But a lot of Sounds are not produced this way I guess? Is there any Software needed and is it expensive ? Thanks for your answers and ignore the attachment. cheers Jason ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 11 18:55:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:02:39 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Well, the most annoying thing in Amsterdam is all those ex-tourist-now-broke-and-homeless asking for money to get their dope. They once went to Amsterdam and hoped to be in paradise. But Amsterdam is only nice if you have money, like lots of places. And you can only have a joint if you have the money. SO one important thing: Be sure to have something steady like a good job, or it's not gonna work out. I've seen some friends wanting to live in Amsterdam and not succeeding in making a connection. Sure, you can have a joint, and I think 90% of the people in Amsterdam uses weed more or less than occasionally. And I am glad that I am free too have one if I like. But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) Dimitri. (From Amsterdam) (PS, sorry for this being a bit off topic.. ;-) ) >breathtaking : smoking dope >lots of life : maybe beforehand >coffeeshops : dope cafe >corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop > >Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people remind me of Woodstock, man... > >I imagine the Dutch are amused. > >Cheers, >Thomas > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 00:48:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Virus Sounds Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:34:55 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Jason Browne wrote... >I have wondered how Sounds get produced for the VIRUS ? I know that you can create your own Sounds on e.g. Init 127 then screw around with filters and LFO´s and get some real good Sounds But a lot of Sounds are not produced this way I guess? Um, they're all produced that way. I start with Init or one of the preset patches and tweak around until I am happy with the sound, then store it. It's just a matter of knowing the synth well and knowing all the parameters...after that I sit there and turn knobs until it sounds right. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 03:02:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:00:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill sorry to pursue this non- virus tangent, but does one need a special work visa to get a job in Amsterdam (as you need in England, a visa stating that no one in the country is capable of doing the job you're coming for)? On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >Well, the most annoying thing in Amsterdam is all those ex-tourist-now-broke-and-homeless asking for money to get their dope. They once went to Amsterdam and hoped to be in paradise. But Amsterdam is only nice if you have money, like lots of places. And you can only have a joint if you have the money. SO one important thing: Be sure to have something steady like a good job, or it's not gonna work out. I've seen some friends wanting to live in Amsterdam and not succeeding in making a connection. > >Sure, you can have a joint, and I think 90% of the people in Amsterdam uses weed more or less than occasionally. And I am glad that I am free too have one if I like. But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) > >Dimitri. (From Amsterdam) > >(PS, sorry for this being a bit off topic.. ;-) ) > >>breathtaking : smoking dope >>lots of life : maybe beforehand >>coffeeshops : dope cafe >>corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop >> >>Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people remind me of Woodstock, man... >> >>I imagine the Dutch are amused. >> >>Cheers, >>Thomas >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 03:28:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:24:56 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: attachments Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 04:32 PM 6/9/99 +0100, you wrote: >* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >>I know I'm not supposed to send attachments to mailing lists, but it's so small, and I don't have my own site (still lazy after all these years). >Wouldn't it be better if we could use attachments for this small patches, on the northlead modular list these attachments are allowed, so there is a big exchange happening. It's not necessary. Just upload your patch to ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/ Include a .txt file describing your upload. And then I will make it available here: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/Access/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 03:31:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:28:31 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Europe Cc: music-bar@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan I think this thread belongs on the music-bar, not the access-list... Please move it over there. j. At 09:00 PM 6/11/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From Aaron E Havill > > >sorry to pursue this non- virus tangent, but does one need a special work visa to get a job in Amsterdam (as you need in England, a visa stating that no one in the country is capable of doing the job you're coming for)? > >On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Dimitri Sijperda wrote: > >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>Well, the most annoying thing in Amsterdam is all those ex-tourist-now-broke-and-homeless asking for money to get their dope. They once went to Amsterdam and hoped to be in paradise. But Amsterdam is only nice if you have money, like lots of places. And you can only have a joint if you have the money. SO one important thing: Be sure to have something steady like a good job, or it's not gonna work out. I've seen some friends wanting to live in Amsterdam and not succeeding in making a connection. >> >>Sure, you can have a joint, and I think 90% of the people in Amsterdam uses weed more or less than occasionally. And I am glad that I am free too have one if I like. But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) >> >>Dimitri. (From Amsterdam) >> >>(PS, sorry for this being a bit off topic.. ;-) ) >> >>>breathtaking : smoking dope >>>lots of life : maybe beforehand >>>coffeeshops : dope cafe >>>corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop >>> >>>Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people remind me of Woodstock, man... >>> >>>I imagine the Dutch are amused. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Thomas >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 07:12:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Europe Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:59:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >sorry to pursue this non- virus tangent, but does one need a special work visa to get a job in Amsterdam (as you need in England, a visa stating that no one in the country is capable of doing the job you're coming for)? I understand that it is very difficult for a non-EU citizen to immigrate, especially in holland where the population density is high. Jay is right that all this is off-topic, please mail me if anyone wants to discuss more or exchange ideas. I'm sorry if I've wasted list time with it. BTW thank you to everyone for the help and advice they have very kindly offered, it is great to have such friends who I have not met yet! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 10:47:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Europe Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:41:47 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) Woodstock, hippies, the 60s, and dope are all enduring humourous topics. Glad to hear the Dutch haven't got into tie-dye clothes :-) But still not convinced about wooden shoes. If you fell in a canal, you'd float upside down and your joint would go out. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 14:45:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Europe Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 14:42:09 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" |Woodstock, hippies, the 60s, and dope are all enduring humourous topics. | |Glad to hear the Dutch haven't got into tie-dye clothes :-) But still not |convinced about wooden shoes. If you fell in a canal, you'd float upside |down and your joint would go out. | Yo and there are also working sound designers in the south of Holland using no drugs !! Better for you spirit! Rob | |Cheers, |Thomas | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! |**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** | | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 17:19:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:15:16 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, Maybe an alternative: It's not so difficult to move to Belgium... which is next to Holland. If you live in Antwerp, you can get in Holland in 15 minutes by car. Of course, you have to take in account that you'll have some food disorders: poisened Coca Cola, dioxine chickens, mad cows,... On the other hand: 1 joint is less healthy than 20 dioxine chickens, so it doesn't really matter... :))) >I understand that it is very difficult for a non-EU citizen to immigrate, especially in holland where the population density is high. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 12 20:55:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: "Sfbay604 List" , <604@party.net>, , "Galen Butler" , "Holger Vool" , "Brian Meotch" , "Lorin" , "Mike Bruton" , "Paul Robinson" , "Paul Lord" , "Troy Sheets" , Subject: Musica Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:40:40 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" I now have a web page up at http://www.anig-browl.org which you might like to check out. From there you can download my first release, a track called 'Clock'. Psychedelic trance, I wouldn't really call it goa-style though. It is in MP3 format, and there are links to players if you need them. I would be happy to get feedback on the track! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 13 09:02:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Europe Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:57:09 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi list, Rob, >Yo and there are also working sound designers in the south of Holland using no drugs !! Everything in moderation, including moderation itself. >Better for you spirit! Different strokes for different folks. My spirit likes being straight... and also enjoys sensual blissful wonderment. Watch out for work, sugar, exercise, television, sex, and transcendental meditation : all are potentially addictive. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 13 13:51:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:55:16 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: EVP in Atwerp? (was Re: Europe) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: > >* From Joeri Vankeirsbilck > >Hi, Ha, antwerp for a next EVP virus meeting, that'd bee cool! Antwerp is a not at all unnice town! Though the 'Quick' thinks that you are a very greedy, irritatin Dutchman Did you know that Brocoli is faaaaaaaarrr more toxic with Dioxine than 20 Belgian chicks? (eh, I mean chicken...) And that the german standard of calling something toxicated by dioxine is 1000 times higher ('easier') than the Dutch standard? And that an Itialian disaster with dioxine in 1967 caused the population to have 10% less cancer? So, if you have a cheap party of frozen chiken for me... I am in! :-) Not that this has anything to do with the virus either, except that the 'Access Dioxine' could be a nice name for a next generation Virus. Dimitri. http://145.99.128.7/dimi http://145.99.128.7/evp >Maybe an alternative: It's not so difficult to move to Belgium... which is next to Holland. If you live in Antwerp, you can get in Holland in 15 minutes by car. Of course, you have to take in account that you'll have some food disorders: poisened Coca Cola, dioxine chickens, mad cows,... On the other hand: 1 joint is less healthy than 20 dioxine chickens, so it doesn't really matter... :))) > >>I understand that it is very difficult for a non-EU citizen to immigrate, especially in holland where the population density is high. > >Ciao, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@nbdj.com > >http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays >http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** Ha, ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 13 14:06:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:10:20 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Musica Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I see your hard transfer limit is reached? Ouch! I am sure you may put your MP3's on the incoming dir of tkelab. On my server is possible too. So you can keep the HTML pages, but jus make a link to the other machine for you mp3, after you put it on. Dimitri. Anig Browl wrote: > >* From "Anig Browl" > >I now have a web page up at http://www.anig-browl.org which you might like to check out. From there you can download my first release, a track called 'Clock'. Psychedelic trance, I wouldn't really call it goa-style though. It is in MP3 format, and there are links to players if you need them. > >I would be happy to get feedback on the track! > >Anig Browl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 11:35:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: Gerald Thomson To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 02:28:22 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Thomson You aren't seriously suggesting that people get addicted to weed?! I mean, you can get addcited to coffee, cigarettes, crack, heroin and a thousand other things, but not weed... >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >Well, the most annoying thing in Amsterdam is all those ex-tourist-now-broke-and-homeless asking for money to get their dope. They once went to Amsterdam and hoped to be in paradise. But Amsterdam is only nice if you have money, like lots of places. And you can only have a joint if you have the money. SO one important thing: Be sure to have something steady like a good job, or it's not gonna work out. I've seen some friends wanting to live in Amsterdam and not succeeding in making a connection. > >Sure, you can have a joint, and I think 90% of the people in Amsterdam uses weed more or less than occasionally. And I am glad that I am free too have one if I like. But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) > >Dimitri. (From Amsterdam) > >(PS, sorry for this being a bit off topic.. ;-) ) > >>breathtaking : smoking dope >>lots of life : maybe beforehand >>coffeeshops : dope cafe >>corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop >> >>Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people >remind >>me of Woodstock, man... >> >>I imagine the Dutch are amused. >> >>Cheers, >>Thomas >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, >and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ><** >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 16:53:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: Europe (just a try to change the discussion a bit) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 99 16:50:50 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" what's about a little competition. instead of talking about stuff you can't buy in most countries (officially) anyway everybody is welcome to create a sound called weed. i guess everybody has his/her very own impression of what the sound should sound like. the sounds can be posted to kai (ok, kai?) and everybody can benefit of them when they're on the access web site. as i was talking of a competition i let it to your imagination what the winner should get :-) marc >* From Gerald Thomson > >You aren't seriously suggesting that people get addicted to weed?! I mean, you can get addcited to coffee, cigarettes, crack, heroin and a thousand other things, but not weed... > > > > >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>Well, the most annoying thing in Amsterdam is all those ex-tourist-now-broke-and-homeless asking for money to get their dope. They once went to Amsterdam and hoped to be in paradise. But Amsterdam is only nice if you have money, like lots of places. And you can only have a joint if you have the money. SO one important thing: Be sure to have something steady like a good job, or it's not gonna work out. I've seen some friends wanting to live in Amsterdam and not succeeding in making a connection. >> >>Sure, you can have a joint, and I think 90% of the people in Amsterdam uses weed more or less than occasionally. And I am glad that I am free too have one if I like. But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) >> >>Dimitri. (From Amsterdam) >> >>(PS, sorry for this being a bit off topic.. ;-) ) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 19:56:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:01:01 +0200 From: Trevor Lea Subject: Re: Europe To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Trevor Lea Well out here in South Africa there is an abundance of the good stuff since the harvest, and well nothing like a J to accompany those encredible V sounds! -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Thomson To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 14 June 1999 11:49 Subject: Re: Europe >* From Gerald Thomson > >You aren't seriously suggesting that people get addicted to weed?! I mean, you can get addcited to coffee, cigarettes, crack, heroin and a thousand other things, but not weed... > > > > >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>Well, the most annoying thing in Amsterdam is all those ex-tourist-now-broke-and-homeless asking for money to get their dope. They once went to Amsterdam and hoped to be in paradise. But Amsterdam is only nice if you have money, like lots of places. And you can only have a joint if you have the money. SO one important thing: Be sure to have something steady like a good job, or it's not gonna work out. I've seen some friends wanting to live in Amsterdam and not succeeding in making a connection. >> >>Sure, you can have a joint, and I think 90% of the people in Amsterdam uses weed more or less than occasionally. And I am glad that I am free too have one if I like. But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) >> >>Dimitri. (From Amsterdam) >> >>(PS, sorry for this being a bit off topic.. ;-) ) >> >>>breathtaking : smoking dope >>>lots of life : maybe beforehand >>>coffeeshops : dope cafe >>>corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop >>> >>>Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people >>remind >>>me of Woodstock, man... >>> >>>I imagine the Dutch are amused. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Thomas >>> >>> >>__________________________________________________________________________ _ >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, >>and >>>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >>is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ >><** >>__________________________________________________________________________ _ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 21:22:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Europe Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:20:22 -0700 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!!!!! --PBr >-----Original Message----- >From: Gerald Thomson [SMTP:geraldthomson@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 2:28 AM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Europe > >* From Gerald Thomson > >You aren't seriously suggesting that people get addicted to weed?! I mean, > >you can get addcited to coffee, cigarettes, crack, heroin and a thousand other things, but not weed... > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 23:22:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Europe Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:18:40 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Stop talking about Europe now. I feel bad because I started this thread and now half the list is discussing clogs and pot. I'm sure the other half hates me :-) Well this is to say 'good-bye' to all my friends on the Virus list for 4 weeks or so. Next time I post I will be writing my mail in Amsterdam, and I look forward to meeting many of you when I am living there. Thanks to all those people who have offered helpful advice for this move, and thanks as always to the wonderful team at Access - I am selling all of my studio EXCEPT for the Access Virus and my sampler. I could not imagine to be without my amazing black and red box wherever I go. Dutch listees, I will mail you privately when I know my departure date, so you have time to hide your stash before I land ;-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 23:22:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:18:42 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 21:21:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:26:26 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Of course you can get 'addicted'! Like lots of things. Food, sex, no food, atari gamecomputer, etc. But i've never seen a weed-junkie no. A coffee junkie, that's what I am myself. But don't get me wrong: I think you can get addicted to weed at most in a social way, not physically, just like coffee (the meeting in the morning at work with your collegues), cigarettes (meeting anytime), and the Virus (when is the next meeting?) :-) Dimitri. >You aren't seriously suggesting that people get addicted to weed?! I mean, you can get addcited to coffee, cigarettes, crack, heroin and a thousand other things, but not weed... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 14 23:32:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:28:53 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Europe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Right, this has gone far enough. This topic is *thoroughly* off-topic for the Access Virus Mailing list. Stop it, please. Take it to the music-bar if you need to continue it, as it has *NOTHING* to do with the Access Virus synthesizer. j. -- TekLab At 02:28 AM 6/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Gerald Thomson > >You aren't seriously suggesting that people get addicted to weed?! I mean, you can get addcited to coffee, cigarettes, crack, heroin and a thousand other things, but not weed... > > > > >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>Well, the most annoying thing in Amsterdam is all those ex-tourist-now-broke-and-homeless asking for money to get their dope. They once went to Amsterdam and hoped to be in paradise. But Amsterdam is only nice if you have money, like lots of places. And you can only have a joint if you have the money. SO one important thing: Be sure to have something steady like a good job, or it's not gonna work out. I've seen some friends wanting to live in Amsterdam and not succeeding in making a connection. >> >>Sure, you can have a joint, and I think 90% of the people in Amsterdam uses weed more or less than occasionally. And I am glad that I am free too have one if I like. But it's not really Woodstock-like. :-) >> >>Dimitri. (From Amsterdam) >> >>(PS, sorry for this being a bit off topic.. ;-) ) >> >>>breathtaking : smoking dope >>>lots of life : maybe beforehand >>>coffeeshops : dope cafe >>>corner : difficult to negotiate after visiting coffeeshop >>> >>>Yeah man, this is just like the 60s, man ... all these Dutch people >>remind >>>me of Woodstock, man... >>> >>>I imagine the Dutch are amused. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Thomas >>> >>> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, >>and >>>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >>is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ >><** >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 15 01:07:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:02:52 EDT Subject: Re: Europe enough about Europe OK To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com talk about a BIG WASTE STOP TALKING ABOUT EUROPE- AND FOCUS ON THE VIRUS ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 15 01:08:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f To: Subject: Virus zu verkaufen Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:05:51 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-Sender: 777000072763-0001@t-online.de From: Karl.Praetorius@t-online.de (Karl Alexander Praetorius) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Access Virus 2.1 incl Easy Sounds Diskette für DM 1.900,- im Rhein-Main-Gebiet zu verkaufen. karl.praetorius@t-online.de X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 15 06:47:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:39:03 -0700 From: "Brian" X-Sent-Mail: off Subject: Re: Europe enough about Europe OK X-Sender-Ip: 209.179.42.135 Organization: N2Mail (http://www.n2mail.com:80) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Brian" I totally agree. --- Brian Music is the universal language. On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:02:52 Jeffkoval wrote: >* From Jeffkoval@aol.com > >talk about a BIG WASTE > >STOP TALKING ABOUT EUROPE- AND FOCUS ON THE VIRUS ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > What are you N2? Choose from 150 free e-mail addresses. http://www.n2mail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 15 06:47:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:39:03 -0700 From: "Brian" X-Sent-Mail: off Subject: Re: Europe enough about Europe OK X-Sender-Ip: 209.179.42.135 Organization: N2Mail (http://www.n2mail.com:80) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Brian" I totally agree. --- Brian Music is the universal language. On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:02:52 Jeffkoval wrote: >* From Jeffkoval@aol.com > >talk about a BIG WASTE > >STOP TALKING ABOUT EUROPE- AND FOCUS ON THE VIRUS ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > What are you N2? Choose from 150 free e-mail addresses. http://www.n2mail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 15 05:09:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Europe Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:03:54 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi people, >You aren't seriously suggesting that people get addicted to weed?! People can & do develop psychological dependency. >I mean, you can get addcited to coffee, cigarettes, crack, heroin and a thousand other things, Hopefully not all at once :-) Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 15 05:42:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Europe Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:36:42 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi people, >Stop talking about Europe now. I feel bad because I started this thread and now half the list is discussing clogs and pot. Don't feel bad, we're not talking about America. Best luck with your big move. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 17 00:58:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:00:51 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Midi interface 4 me Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen Hello list, this time i'm inquiring about what Midi interface i'd best buy for use with my Virus, and where to get it cheaply. I want something around 8in/8out, and the most favourable looking for me are the Emagic Unitor 8, MOTU Midi Express XT..... Maybe someone knows some other interfaces that they can recommend from personal experience/use. The problem right now is, that i really dig the Motu, but here in The Netherlands it costs like 2 or 3 times as much as in the States. I am going on holiday to London in a month, and am willing to buy it there, if it does differ in price much from here. For the Emagic Unitor 8 i pay around 600$, and for the Motu Midi Express Xt i pay around 750$ (yes, that much!). Anyone knowing a good adress in London, or the Netherlands, please speak up. And oh yeah, i know this isn't really "on-topic" for the Virus list, but i hope it's better than dope...hehe...which isn't necessarily so. Anyways, thanks in advance, John Machielsen ps : anyone in The Netherlands wanna meet up this summer ? i live in Oosterhout, Noord Brabant. -- john machielsen, culthero@swankarmy.net -=[WinErr: 005 Multitasking attempted -- System confused]=- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 17 08:16:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:14:27 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "Erik van 't Woud" Subject: Re: Midi interface 4 me Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Erik van 't Woud" At 01:00 17-6-99 +0200, you wrote: >the Emagic Unitor 8, MOTU Midi Express XT..... > >The problem right now is, that i really dig the Motu, but here in The Netherlands it costs like 2 or 3 times as much as in the States. I have bought the Midi E-XT for 795= guilders about two years ago. There were shops asking double this amount, so you have to shop around a bit or try one of the German mail-order companies. Keep in mind that it connects to your parallel port. In my system it doesn't work together with the Cubase VST dongle that also sits on the parallel port, so I had to install another LPT-card. Second problem that occured was that with the "latest" driver it crashes while doing sysex dumps. Going back to the driver that came with the interface fixed this. MOTU never put a newer driver at their website. The driver interface still looks like its designed for Windows 3.11 I'm happy using the unit for two years now, but customer support by MOTU is totally shit. They never bothered to reply at my emails or help me out with any problems. I suspect that when this box will fail (hardware defective) I can dump it, because MOTU certainly will not help me. Keep this in mind when you start importing their gear from the US. Strange: I am very happy with my MIDI E-XT since I got it wotking, but I will never buy gear from MOTU again, ever.... Good luck! Bye, Erik. >I am going on holiday to London in a month, and am willing to buy it there, if it does differ in price much from here. For the Emagic Unitor 8 i pay around 600$, >and for the Motu Midi Express Xt i pay around 750$ (yes, that much!). > >Anyone knowing a good adress in London, or the Netherlands, please speak up. > >And oh yeah, i know this isn't really "on-topic" for the Virus list, but i hope it's better than dope...hehe...which isn't necessarily so. > >Anyways, thanks in advance, > >John Machielsen > >ps : anyone in The Netherlands wanna meet up this summer ? i live in Oosterhout, Noord Brabant. > >-- >john machielsen, >culthero@swankarmy.net > >-=[WinErr: 005 Multitasking attempted -- System confused]=- > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- Erik van 't Woud erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 17 12:00:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: Gerald Thomson To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Europe Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:57:31 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Thomson Isn't it just great when your mails arrive 11 days too late?! Hallelujah, gloria in exelsis and thank you Hotmail!! Long live MSN! >* From Gerald Thomson > >I don't really have any experience with moving stuff, but I wouldn't recommend selling it all, the buying replacements. Pro-audio is pretty cheap >in England compared to the rest of Europe, but becuase of VAT it is still pretty expensive compared to the US. >And oh, euro power supplys can be bought everywhere. In airports for example. > > > > >>* From "Anig Browl" >> >>Hi, >> >>I am thinking of moving from San Francisco to Amsterdam. I am wondering what to do with my Virus. I do not have a euro power supply and also there is a small manufacturing problem needing a chip replacement which I did not >>do yet. I am worried that this will be a pain to sort out if I bring it to Europe, I wonder if I should fix and sell the Virus in the US (For Maybe $900-$1000) and buy another one in Europe? Or is this a silly idea? >> >>Actually I am also wondering about pro audio prices in Europe, I have the Virus and my sampler which I really want to keep, an English mixing desk which is a bit large but I could transport and two speakers. Everything should work on Euro voltage but I am worried about transporting it. That is >>risky and costs money, but maybe it would cost more to sell and replace in Europe? Does anybody have experience with this issue, I am not good at this >>kind of thing. >> >>Anig Browl > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 17 17:14:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:16:30 +0100 From: Gerald Stringer X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Midi interface 4 me Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Stringer Reference which midi interface. John, I recently bought the unitor 8 for my mac and together with Logic and the new ATM technology the timing is totally tight (and I'm used to using hardware sequencers like MPC's) the timing is now fine on my mac ports. I don't know what it's like on PC or with cubase but i bet Emagic sort it out. regards, G. John Machielsen wrote: >* From John Machielsen > >Hello list, > >this time i'm inquiring about what Midi interface i'd best buy for use with my Virus, >and where to get it cheaply. > >I want something around 8in/8out, and the most favourable looking for me are >the Emagic Unitor 8, MOTU Midi Express XT..... > >Maybe someone knows some other interfaces that they can recommend from personal experience/use. > >The problem right now is, that i really dig the Motu, but here in The Netherlands it costs like 2 or 3 times as much as in the States. I am going on holiday to London in a month, and am willing to buy it there, if it does differ in price much from here. For the Emagic Unitor 8 i pay around 600$, >and for the Motu Midi Express Xt i pay around 750$ (yes, that much!). > >Anyone knowing a good adress in London, or the Netherlands, please speak up. > >And oh yeah, i know this isn't really "on-topic" for the Virus list, but i hope it's better than dope...hehe...which isn't necessarily so. > >Anyways, thanks in advance, > >John Machielsen > >ps : anyone in The Netherlands wanna meet up this summer ? i live in Oosterhout, Noord Brabant. > >-- >john machielsen, >culthero@swankarmy.net > >-=[WinErr: 005 Multitasking attempted -- System confused]=- > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 17 22:49:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:35:25 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: Midi interface 4 me Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >Strange: I am very happy with my MIDI E-XT since I got it wotking, but I will never buy gear from MOTU again, ever.... Same with me! If you use Logic, you should go for the Unitor 8, because it supports AMT ('Active MIDI Transmission'). That means, the data are dumped from sequencer into interface before they're needed and then just triggered. So if you use a lot of notes on a lot of ports at the same time this is supposed to give a VERY tight timing because they are all sent at the same time. I wasn't able to have a try because MOTU doesn't even think about writing an AMT-driver. They've got the worst support I ever met! Martin mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 18 00:17:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:19:08 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Midi interface 4 me Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen Hey Erik, i really don't know where to get the contact information for these German mail order companies..could you give me the ones you know of ?? Anyways, i've decided to go for the Emagic Unitor 8, but my question now is, (Logical...hmm..)..where can i get it cheapest ? I believe the 'normal' price is around 1200,- guilders or so? Thanks for all people replying to my inquiry. -John Machielsen- >Erik wrote some things. -- john machielsen, culthero@swankarmy.net -=[WinErr: 005 Multitasking attempted -- System confused]=- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 18 20:01:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: Midi interface 4 me Date: Fri, 18 Jun 99 19:58:14 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" >Anyways, i've decided to go for the Emagic Unitor 8, but my question now is, (Logical...hmm..)..where can i get it cheapest ? if i remember right, they go for DM 880.- at www.music-city.de cu marc ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 20 16:05:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:58:59 EDT Subject: Upgrade To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com I should be getting my Virus tomorrow and want to upgrade it immediately. If it is version 1.54 can I go straight to 2.5? Also, I use cakewalk, so I have to use something else right? Once upgraded, how can I load different patches into it for the 3rd and 4th banks? Which sounds would be really good for trance? thanks so much Dan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 21 17:00:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:11:42 +0200 From: snifFA To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Upgrade Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From snifFA >I should be getting my Virus tomorrow and want to upgrade it immediately. If it is version 1.54 can I go straight to 2.5? yep, shouldn't make any prob. >Also, I use cakewalk, so I have to use something else right? you can use anything as long it can send midi-data. >Once upgraded, how can I load different patches into it for the 3rd and 4th banks? you mean to save your sounds into the banks 3 and 4?that isn't possible. these banks are the preset-banks. >Which sounds would be really good for trance? strange question. depends on the melody-line. greets, snifFA ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 20 21:47:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:40:07 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Upgrade Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I should be getting my Virus tomorrow and want to upgrade it immediately. If it is version 1.54 can I go straight to 2.5? Yes, no problems. Just make sure you read the included instructions and you'll be fine. j. -- [June 30th] Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW ** NEW Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 17:07:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:57:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Setups To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito I play live by myself........ Virus Microwave XT NORDLEAD 2 Jp-8000 Akai S5000 CuBase Midi Guitar D-Beam Sometimes I get some help, but I don't play any major gigs...... Gel-Sol --- Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >I just wanted to see how many of you play live with your Virus as well as in >a studio. If so, please let tell what style of music, how many people in the >act and what your setup consists of (equipment). I am hoping to start >playing live soon and just wanted to see what any of you were doing. > >Lates, >Daniel > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 17:41:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:40:29 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: locked Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! My Virus just locked up. It happens once in a while when I attack it with lots of controller data. It gets _really_ slow, ie switching from multi to single and vice versa takes 5 secs, even with no midi thrown at it. The only remedy is to switch on/off and that power-off spike is still in my ears...:() This has never happened to me before 2.51. Any fellow-victims? bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 18:11:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:07:12 EDT Subject: Re: locked To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 6/22/99 8:55:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, jsdejong@wxs.nl writes: >Hi! > >My Virus just locked up. It happens once in a while when I attack it with lots of controller data. It gets _really_ slow, ie switching from multi to single and vice versa takes 5 secs, even with no midi thrown at it. The only remedy is to switch on/off and that power-off spike is still in my ears...:() > >This has never happened to me before 2.51. Any fellow-victims? Yep. Mine locks up, too. If I tweak or change patches while it is being played by my sequencer, all of a sudden, the control panel becomes useless. It still plays (with the current frozen settings), but I can't use anything on the panel. No MIDI feedback loop is happening either. I can't change patches or anything until I stop the sequencer and unplug the MIDI cable going into the Virus IN, so you might want to try that instead of turning it off and on again and getting that loud pop. This "panel freezing" didn't happen to me before 2.51, either. I sure hope they fix this soon. :-( Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 21:37:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:33:16 EDT Subject: Re: LOUD POP To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com I KNOW THIS IS THE 6BILLIONTH TIME SOMEONE HAS ASKED THIS BUT,why cant a company that makes such an awsone technically advanced product get rid of that equipment damaging pop??????????????? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 21:58:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:54:19 EDT Subject: Re: locked To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 6/22/99 12:29:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, CKe9644719@aol.com writes: >If this panel freeze can be fixed by simply unplugging the midi in, this >cannot be a bug of the Virus. This definetly looks like a midi buffer overflow, simply caused by a midi loop or something else. What happens, if you unplug the midi out? > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper I'm using the Virus OUT as a THRU (to my Nord Lead rack IN) and it is not going back to the Mac (my sequencer running StudioVisionPro). So, no feedback loop is occurring. And, this didn't happen with my previous OS with the exact same MIDI setup. (?)...mysterious... Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 22:12:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: LOUD POP Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:10:34 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Jeffkoval@aol.com > >I KNOW THIS IS THE 6BILLIONTH TIME SOMEONE HAS ASKED THIS BUT,why cant a company that makes such an awsone technically advanced product get rid of that equipment damaging pop??????????????? Well, because it's an Advanced Simulated Virtual Analog! It simulates the analogs quite good (and go much further then that!)...and most, if not all analogs have those pops...it's part of the simulation! :-) I know this is not funny, and even I have sometimes forgotten to turn down the volume :-( But I don't think it can be fixed, or Access want all the Viruses back for a fix... Best solution I think is to really turn down the volume... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 22:00:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:10:48 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: LOUD POP Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD whys it so hard to rememeber to turn your amp off first easy stuff man weld Jeffkoval@aol.com wrote: >* From Jeffkoval@aol.com > >I KNOW THIS IS THE 6BILLIONTH TIME SOMEONE HAS ASKED THIS BUT,why cant a company that makes such an awsone technically advanced product get rid of that equipment damaging pop??????????????? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 22:32:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:28:47 EDT Subject: Re: LOUD POP To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com i have no f king problem turning off my amp.. it just that if roland korg and yamaha got it figured out why cant the masters.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 22:34:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:29:39 EDT Subject: Re: LOUD POP To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com i know i know ,,, it is great simulation... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 01:38:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jeff Barthel" To: Subject: Re: Location. Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:45:59 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jeff Barthel" Here in the US I've been told the release date won't be til late July/early August. ----- Original Message ----- From: Daedalus To: Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 6:31 PM Subject: Location. >* From Daedalus > > >Hmm. I've been looking for the virus kb for a few weeks now. Is it even released yet? If anybody's seen it.. how much was the asking price? > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 22 23:18:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:18:59 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: LOUD POP Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >I KNOW THIS IS THE 6BILLIONTH TIME SOMEONE HAS ASKED THIS BUT,why cant a company that makes such an awsone technically advanced product get rid of that equipment damaging pop??????????????? Equipment damaging? My ears didn't like it much either! :) Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 00:33:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:31:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Daedalus To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Location. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Daedalus Hmm. I've been looking for the virus kb for a few weeks now. Is it even released yet? If anybody's seen it.. how much was the asking price? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 01:11:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:21:48 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Location. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD July sometime Daedalus wrote: >* From Daedalus > >Hmm. I've been looking for the virus kb for a few weeks now. Is it even released yet? If anybody's seen it.. how much was the asking price? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 02:53:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Julien Hagege" To: Subject: Re: Location. Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:52:33 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Julien Hagege" Do you think the price of the virus(rackable version) will go down when the Kb will be out? Is it worth paying 200$ to gain 4 voices of polyphony? ----- Message d'origine ----- De : Daedalus À : Envoyé : mercredi 23 juin 1999 00:31 Objet : Location. >* From Daedalus > > >Hmm. I've been looking for the virus kb for a few weeks now. Is it even released yet? If anybody's seen it.. how much was the asking price? > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 03:42:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: AcrystDM@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:34:49 EDT Subject: HELP! Virus will not synch to MIDI To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From AcrystDM@aol.com I've had my virus for over a year now and have not had this problem before until now. I've made no changes to my setup. The Virus will not synch to incoming Midi Clock as far as the appreggiator is concerned. I know the Virus is receiving Midi Clock because the small "c" shows up in the display. This is totally aggravating. Sometimes the appregiator sounds will completely not even sound at all when i'm playing back my sequencer (VST) and when it does sound, it's getting its tempo from the internal clock, not from the sequencer. Anyone else ever experienced this who could help? Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 04:28:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:26:34 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: HELP! Virus will not synch to MIDI Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp it's possible that you've set the Virus to *not* pay attention to incoming clock data. check your config menu... late nights + pressing buttons = potential mistakes (I know this firsthand!) -zs >I've had my virus for over a year now and have not had this problem before until now. I've made no changes to my setup. The Virus will not synch to incoming Midi Clock as far as the appreggiator is concerned. I know the Virus is receiving Midi Clock because the small "c" shows up in the display. This is totally aggravating. Sometimes the appregiator sounds will completely not even sound at all when i'm playing back my sequencer (VST) and when it does sound, it's getting its tempo from the internal clock, not from the sequencer. Anyone else ever experienced this who could help? Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 05:16:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:18:39 -0400 Subject: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast From: "Gavin R. Muir" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gavin R. Muir" Hi all, Apologies for a potentially silly question. I've been following the list for awhile, trying to decide whether or not to purchase a Virus, Purchase an Oberheim OB-8 or Xa, or keep my Super Jupiter. I'm not really looking to do too much dance stuff. I'm looking for that "classic analog poly" sound, usually associated with OBs. I know the Virus is better than most virtuals for pads, but has anyone had success getting "good Obie" from a Virus? The kind of sound I mean (don't blame for the song, but it's the most recent one I've heard with this sound quality) is like in Nik Kershaw's "Wouldn't it be Good"; the pad in at the end of the verses. Has anyone had success getting close to the Obie with a Virus? I'd rather have the Virus if it can come close, as there aren't any hard to find microchips to replace!! Thanks in advance, Gavin Muir ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 09:35:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:03:57 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: LOUD POP WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Jeffkoval@aol.com schreef: >* From Jeffkoval@aol.com> >I KNOW THIS IS THE 6BILLIONTH TIME SOMEONE HAS ASKED THIS BUT,why cant a >company that makes such an awsone technically advanced product get rid of >that equipment damaging pop??????????????? Hi infected! I agree that it's not to say the best part of the virus no. ...ahem. It makes an eventual bug more irritaing. Hopefully in the next virus/virus KB this problem is solved? I imagine that this pop can't be removed automatically. Say, why is this technically seaking, access? Was it the choice between a good AD converter without a **POP!** or a veeery goo AD converter including a **POP!**? (which is a little too Virtual Analogue to me...:-) Maybe a BIG switch to cut the power of the virus AND the audio would help. :-) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 09:58:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:58:54 +0200 Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" >Apologies for a potentially silly question. I've been following the list for awhile, trying to decide whether or not to purchase a Virus, Purchase an Oberheim OB-8 or Xa, or keep my Super Jupiter. I love the virus but....selling a SuperJupiter when one wants pads... Its a pitty that you are far from europe otherwise i would make one exchange with you....what a great excuse to get the virus kb ;) Paulo Abreu ----------------------- abreu@avignon.inra.fr ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 11:00:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:29:10 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Hello infected! Gavin R. Muir schreef: >Apologies for a potentially silly question. The silliest question is the one never asked. >I'm not really looking to do too much dance stuff. Neither was I. >I'm >looking for that >"classic analog poly" sound, Well, i am not sure. I can't say if you think that the sound of an obie is simulated very well. I think a real analogue just can't be imitaded. Some people sold their analogue stuff because they had a virus. But the tweak on my 12dB distorted korg MS-10 filter can't be beaten, not even by the virus. But the virus comes close. Very close. And the filter section (the best part of the virus to my opinion, though the rest is very good too) can take many identity's. But i think the most important is the identity of the virus itself. It is a synth with a very own sound, which sounds analogue, while it isn't. It just takes a very good place between my real analogue's (Yamaha CS-60, Korg MS-10, Arp Omni2, etc) With saturation (=some kind of distortion like ms-10 and 303), 2 seperate fiters of 12/24dB, which can be used on left/right channels (split), combined (24/36db). Oh yeah, 12dB just means that the filter works like a not on the cut-off frequency sounds 12 dB weaker one played one octave higher (=double freq.). But what's in a number? The virus is something to be heard. Just hear what you think. Not the patches, I have never heard 'em all, because I am not interested in using sounds made by other people. Just create your own sounds. The possibilities are enormous even if you have just a little knowledge of analogue synths. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 10:18:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:16:23 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Locked Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com I used to have problems as well, when I used the MIDI OUT as a THRU port Then I start using it as MIDI OUT the hang-ups stopped... greetings, Steven MIME:Synthworld@aol.com on 22/06/99 23:07:14 To: access-list@teklab.com @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Steven De Mesmaker/AIQ/CT/ATLAS COPCO) Subject: Re: locked * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 6/22/99 12:29:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, CKe9644719@aol.com writes: >If this panel freeze can be fixed by simply unplugging the midi in, this > cannot be a bug of the Virus. This definetly looks like a midi buffer > overflow, simply caused by a midi loop or something else. What happens, if > you unplug the midi out? >>Ciao >Christoph Kemper I'm using the Virus OUT as a THRU (to my Nord Lead rack IN) and it is not going back to the Mac (my sequencer running StudioVisionPro). So, no feedback loop is occurring. And, this didn't happen with my previous OS with the exact same MIDI setup. (?)...mysterious... Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 17:34:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:28:13 EDT Subject: Re: LOUD POP To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com is it the AD converter that makes the pop? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 19:02:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:49:48 +0200 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guido Storek Hi there. "Gavin R. Muir" schrieb: > >* From "Gavin R. Muir" > >Hi all, > >Apologies for a potentially silly question. I've been following the list for awhile, trying to decide whether or not to purchase a Virus, Purchase an Oberheim OB-8 or Xa, or keep my Super Jupiter. > >I'm not really looking to do too much dance stuff. I'm looking for that "classic analog poly" sound, usually associated with OBs. I know the Virus is better than most virtuals for pads, but has anyone had success getting "good Obie" from a Virus? The kind of sound I mean (don't blame for the song, but it's the most recent one I've heard with this sound quality) is like in Nik Kershaw's "Wouldn't it be Good"; the pad in at the end of the verses. > >Has anyone had success getting close to the Obie with a Virus? I'd rather have the Virus if it can come close, as there aren't any hard to find microchips to replace!! > >Thanks in advance, >Gavin Muir >___________________________________________________________________________ Well, I don´t have "Wouldn´t it..." to listen to. Though I have a OBMatrix 1000 I can´t say if the Virus can sound close enough to an Obie for you. What I know is that for me the Virus does excellent pad sounds and it´s much more flexible than an Oberheim (more waveforms, parameters and modulation, vocoder, fm etc.). I never was in need to reproduce sounds made by other synths - I listen, edit and find sounds that fit. BTW: I want to sell my Matrix 1000 for 350 Euro. It´s a german version (220/230 volts) in absolutely excellent condition. Back to pad sounds: I´ve bought the Yamaha FS1R (not only) because it offers great pads. The problem (?) is, that there are so many parameters that make it more difficult to create sounds than using a Virus. If you want to have Oberheim sounds ... buy an Oberheim. If you want to have a very flexible synthesizer ... buy the Virus. If u want to have the most flexible one ... buy the FS1R. I´m new to this mailing list. To introduce myself I made a page with some mp3 files of my stuff at http://home.ins.de/~guido.storek/only.html . take care... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://members.tripod.com/~Tao7/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 20:41:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: LOUD POP Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:44:53 +0200 (MEST) From: jan@vermeer.franken.de (Jan Hildebrandt) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From jan@vermeer.franken.de (Jan Hildebrandt) >is it the AD converter that makes the pop? Or could it be solved by a "POP-fix release" 2.52 of the Virus OS...? ;-) *Ahem*, a really silly joke. I´m sorry. Had to post that one... Jan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Hildebrandt, Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Pretzfelder Str. 12 D-90425 Nuernberg, Germany I didn't write this, a very complex macro did. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 20:10:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: LOUD POP Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:08:22 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Jeffkoval@aol.com > >is it the AD converter that makes the pop? Well, I'm not sure...but the power supply definitely has something to do with it I think. Still, no real problem the plop imo. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 21:33:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-To: Subject: Re: LOUD POP Date: Wed, 23 Jun 99 21:31:45 +0200 x-sender: Marc.Schlaile@home.ivm.de From: "Marc.Schlaile" To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marc.Schlaile" >is it the AD converter that makes the pop? the analog pre-amp pops. ADs don't (a popping AD needs an digital input that causes the (converted) output). "expensive" gear is using relais to surpress the pop. same goes for amplifiers. over the years i got used to switch on my active speakers as the final component in the chain. easy and effective... cheers, marc ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 21:45:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:41:50 EDT Subject: Re: LOUD POP To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com speakers lasti always say.. this is sure better that talking about europe!? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 21:41:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:43:17 +0100 From: Gerald Stringer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Stringer I must disagree about the super jupiter. I think it a much over rated synth. I had one with a programmer for about a year and didn't like it as much as Jupiter 6 I sold to buy it. The filters don't even have full resonance DOH! I bought a virus and its amazing the difference modern midi implementation has had on my synth programming. G. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 22:24:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: LOUD POP MUSIC Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:21:12 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Jip, And what to say about Ring modulation and FM. There are some interesting things with the Virus and the Ring Modulation. Rob -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jeffkoval@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: woensdag 23 juni 1999 22:12 Onderwerp: Re: LOUD POP |* From Jeffkoval@aol.com | |speakers lasti always say.. this is sure better that talking about europe!? |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! |**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** | | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 22:27:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:24:29 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" |* From Gerald Stringer | |I must disagree about the super jupiter. I think it a much over rated |synth. I had one with a programmer for about a year and didn't like it |as much as Jupiter 6 I sold to buy it. The filters don't even have full |resonance DOH! I bought a virus and its amazing the difference modern |midi implementation has had on my synth programming. | |G. I alway dreamed of th MKS-80 with programmer. If it is close to my JP-8 it must be very very gooooood. Or is it a JP-6 with 2 extra voice in a rack? Rob ps. My MiniMoog is alive. It has seen the movie MATRIX. :) |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! |**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** | | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 22:50:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:46:16 EDT Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com mks80 blah blah blah........ system 100m babee..... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 23:41:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:37:40 EDT Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com In a message dated 6/23/99 4:35:15 PM Central Daylight Time, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: << weld@jumpontheweb.com >> so why am i getting all this mks80 email? i think you point fingers in the wrong place there brother..... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 23 23:30:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:40:27 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD this is the virus list no synth wars babee!! weld SUBREACT@aol.com wrote: >* From SUBREACT@aol.com > >mks80 blah blah blah........ system 100m babee..... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 02:12:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:25:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast From: "Gavin R. Muir" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gavin R. Muir" Hi all, Apologies for starting this OT discussion; didn't intend for there to be a flood over the super jupiter, was just curious as to the mimic abilities of the Virus. Thanks to all for the advice. I'd like a Virus, but I think I need to take care of my Oberheim jones first. Cheers and Happy Virii, Gavin. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 03:50:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:59:39 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i think both rob p and jim b reay will concur that the virus can do pretty good simulations, id say a bit more towards memorymoogish for me. i know both me and jim b sold are jup 8's to get a virus, but rob has both. best weld Gavin R. Muir wrote: >* From "Gavin R. Muir" > >Hi all, > >Apologies for starting this OT discussion; didn't intend for there to be a flood over the super jupiter, was just curious as to the mimic abilities of the Virus. > >Thanks to all for the advice. I'd like a Virus, but I think I need to take care of my Oberheim jones first. > >Cheers and Happy Virii, >Gavin. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 09:13:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:10:16 +0300 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: stick to the subject/satisfied Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Sorry, but I haven't got any idea what this means. What is the connection with access Virus? >mks80 blah blah blah........ system 100m babee..... OK, since I have previously complained about my problems with the Virus, I would like to tell access people and everybody else on the list that at the moment I am very, very happy with my Virus. Works fine in studio and live situations! --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 10:21:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Virus and ring-modulation !! in Real audio on my page Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:18:20 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi List, I ad a few seconds Real audio on my homepage to let you hear some Ringmodulator sounds. Most special is the Distortion Guitar I guess. www.robpapen.com/ramp3/robpapenvirusne.rm (or just look at the homepage www.robpapen.com to the Access page and than at the end of the page. What you hear is: -1 Distortion Guitar (a kind of) -2 FM alike pulse Bass-sound -3 Ringmodulation fx sound (arpeggiator) It is all recorded directly from the Access Virus. Regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 13:16:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Luke O" To: Subject: Buying a Virus Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:14:29 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Luke O" Hello I just subscribed to the list cause I want to get a Virus KB could one of you guys tell me a good place to buy one? I live in eastern US. Thanks, Luke ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 14:16:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:25:55 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Buying a Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD music central on the web not avail. till julu/august weld Luke O wrote: >* From "Luke O" > >Hello I just subscribed to the list cause I want to get a Virus KB could one of you guys tell me a good place to buy one? I live in eastern US. > >Thanks, >Luke > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 14:32:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [140.195.7.156] From: Richard Mergner To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Buying a Virus Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:30:21 EDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Richard Mergner Try Guitar Center or Sam Ash(up & down East coast)to try out/play/pricewise, guessing around July/August you should see them. >From: "Luke O" Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >To: >Subject: Buying a Virus >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:14:29 -0400 > >* From "Luke O" > >Hello I just subscribed to the list cause I want to get a Virus KB could >one of you guys tell me a good place to buy one? I live in eastern US. > >Thanks, >Luke > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 15:01:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:04:12 +0100 From: Gerald Stringer X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Quick Question from Potential Virus Enthusiast Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gerald Stringer Rob, I think the MKS 80 sounds totally different to the JP 6 and 8. It has a much softer sound. If you have the space, stick to your JP 8, they sound amazing. G Rob Papen wrote: >* From "Rob Papen" > >|* From Gerald Stringer | >|I must disagree about the super jupiter. I think it a much over rated |synth. I had one with a programmer for about a year and didn't like it |as much as Jupiter 6 I sold to buy it. The filters don't even have full |resonance DOH! I bought a virus and its amazing the difference modern |midi implementation has had on my synth programming. | >|G. > >I alway dreamed of th MKS-80 with programmer. If it is close to my JP-8 it must be very very gooooood. > >Or is it a JP-6 with 2 extra voice in a rack? > >Rob > >ps. My MiniMoog is alive. It has seen the movie MATRIX. :) |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! |**> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** | >| > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 15:26:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:22:54 EDT Subject: Re: Buying a Virus To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com howdeedoo, for purchase info, email geoff farr at gsf agency. he is the u.s importer of access and waldorf gear. he will know what stores have orders, and who is getting the first virus kb's of the boat. the email is gsfa@netcom.com....... peace out cubscout, matti matt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 24 18:48:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:43:50 +0200 From: Jörg Wessels X-Accept-Language: de, en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus and ring-modulation !! in Real audio on my page Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Wessels Rob Papen schrieb: >www.robpapen.com/ramp3/robpapenvirusne.rm It´s . *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 04:32:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:06:14 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Underwater sounds X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam * From Cam Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? Thanks for your help Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 04:35:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Delivered-To: GMX delivery to micha-n@gmx.de X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:06:14 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Underwater sounds X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness X-Resent-By: Global Message Exchange X-Resent-For: micha-n@gmx.de X-Resent-To: micha.n@okay.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam * From Cam Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? Thanks for your help Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 05:56:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Delivered-To: GMX delivery to micha-n@gmx.de X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:06:14 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Underwater sounds X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness X-Resent-By: Global Message Exchange X-Resent-For: micha-n@gmx.de X-Resent-To: micha.n@okay.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam * From Cam Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? Thanks for your help Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 06:20:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:06:14 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Underwater sounds X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam * From Cam Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? Thanks for your help Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 27 20:06:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:06:14 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Underwater sounds Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? Thanks for your help Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 27 20:44:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:41:33 EDT Subject: A few questions To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com Well, I just got it and I'm very excited! A few simple questions I have are, when using the virus with a sequencer, I must set the programs in multi and send them to the corresponding channel. Only the first four channels on the virus can use effects? So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? and so I send it from the first channel of the virus? If not, then how? One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Thanks so much Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 04:15:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:41:33 EDT Subject: A few questions To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com * From Dgerbs@aol.com Well, I just got it and I'm very excited! A few simple questions I have are, when using the virus with a sequencer, I must set the programs in multi and send them to the corresponding channel. Only the first four channels on the virus can use effects? So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? and so I send it from the first channel of the virus? If not, then how? One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Thanks so much Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 04:29:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:41:33 EDT Subject: A few questions To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com * From Dgerbs@aol.com Well, I just got it and I'm very excited! A few simple questions I have are, when using the virus with a sequencer, I must set the programs in multi and send them to the corresponding channel. Only the first four channels on the virus can use effects? So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? and so I send it from the first channel of the virus? If not, then how? One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Thanks so much Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 08:03:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Delivered-To: GMX delivery to micha-n@gmx.de X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:41:33 EDT Subject: A few questions To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness X-Resent-By: Global Message Exchange X-Resent-For: micha-n@gmx.de X-Resent-To: micha.n@okay.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com * From Dgerbs@aol.com Well, I just got it and I'm very excited! A few simple questions I have are, when using the virus with a sequencer, I must set the programs in multi and send them to the corresponding channel. Only the first four channels on the virus can use effects? So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? and so I send it from the first channel of the virus? If not, then how? One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Thanks so much Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 16:49:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Delivered-To: GMX delivery to micha-n@gmx.de X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:41:33 EDT Subject: A few questions To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness X-Resent-By: Global Message Exchange X-Resent-For: micha-n@gmx.de X-Resent-To: micha.n@okay.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com * From Dgerbs@aol.com Well, I just got it and I'm very excited! A few simple questions I have are, when using the virus with a sequencer, I must set the programs in multi and send them to the corresponding channel. Only the first four channels on the virus can use effects? So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? and so I send it from the first channel of the virus? If not, then how? One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Thanks so much Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 18:55:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:41:33 EDT Subject: A few questions To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com * From Dgerbs@aol.com Well, I just got it and I'm very excited! A few simple questions I have are, when using the virus with a sequencer, I must set the programs in multi and send them to the corresponding channel. Only the first four channels on the virus can use effects? So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? and so I send it from the first channel of the virus? If not, then how? One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Thanks so much Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 19:01:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Delivered-To: GMX delivery to micha-n@gmx.de X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:41:33 EDT Subject: A few questions To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness X-Resent-By: Global Message Exchange X-Resent-For: micha-n@gmx.de X-Resent-To: micha.n@okay.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com * From Dgerbs@aol.com Well, I just got it and I'm very excited! A few simple questions I have are, when using the virus with a sequencer, I must set the programs in multi and send them to the corresponding channel. Only the first four channels on the virus can use effects? So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? and so I send it from the first channel of the virus? If not, then how? One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Thanks so much Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 28 00:24:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:21:40 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Underwater sounds Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Use a reverb rounted through a formant filter with the long U or OO sounds selected. Use a parallel stereo delay with slow tempo. Add subtle LFO to the signal or effects (either way or both). Essentially, soundwaves are filtered in water such that specific deep and mid-range tones are accentuated (others almost disappear). Panning is of great importance. If no formant filter is available, LFO the filter amp more and the filter frequency less so. DTM. Cam wrote: >* From Cam > >Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? Thanks for your help > >Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 28 17:46:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Malcolm Ferguson To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Underwater sounds Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:38:48 -0400 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Malcolm Ferguson If you have any effects units that have a leslie or rotating speaker effect, that can work quite nicely. Also 2 chorus effects with different modulation rates. Mac >-----Original Message----- >From: Cam [mailto:clockwork@bvl.net] >Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 2:06 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Underwater sounds > > >* From Cam > >Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I >want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way >to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? >Thanks for >your help > >Cam > > >______________________________________________________________ _____________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 28 18:42:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:41:15 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Underwater sounds Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Sorry for giving a non-virus answer, but I've just gotten great results with my sampler... - fill a kitchen trashcan 1/4 high with water - place two mics at the top of the trashcan, pointing in opposite directions NOTE: that the mics should be used in a stereo setup ... one for the Left channel, the other for the right. - Get your sampler ready to sample (stereo!) - Put your hand in the water and slosh it around - Loop the sample and set up a Program in your sampler By layering 4 octaves or so of this, combined with a lowpass filter, a very convincing above- and under-water sound can be made. I like to route the Modulation wheel to the filter cutoff to easily go above and below the water's surface. -zs >Hi all. I have a question for the sound-design professors on the list: I want to have some sounds with an "underwater" feel... what's the best way to achieve that? EQ? Reverb? Filtering? All of the above? Thanks for your help ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 05:21:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: A few questions Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:13:46 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Daniel, >So, after you use four sounds with effects, how do you get good sounds out of the rest of the channels? There isn't a way to get say 8 different sounds from the virus all using effects and sounding excellent? Many good sounds do not use, or benefit from, chorus. Chorus, or any other effect, adds a particular emphasis to a sound. Obviously if the chorus is used on all sounds there is no distinction... just a big muddy sound. >Also, I understand that the sequencer can send a control message via midi telling the virus which multi to use. Which CC is it? Isn't this in the manual? Or on Canine's web page? >One more, I would like the virus to always be clocked by the external sequencer, including tempo, arpeggiator, LFO, etc? Is their a way to set this so it always syncs up like this? Tempo normally slaves to incoming MIDI clock. LFOs can be individually switched to clock sync in the menu. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 12:05:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Arpeggiator and Cord mode Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:00:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi List, Who uses a lot the cord mode in the arpeggiator? a function I was waiting for since 1863... Soon I will place a new Realaudio demo with : 8080 strings :) ? and a cool cord mode arpeggiator sound. to be Virus or not to be, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM ( see homepage) - PROTEUS-2000 Techno&Ambient ROM (soon) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) -TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 15:33:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:29:54 EDT Subject: Sorry about that To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com I don't know why that e-mail was sent four times. Sorry about that!! Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 29 23:51:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:45:24 EDT Subject: I don't know what is happening! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com I do not keep sending the message "a few questions." And I do not know why it keeps being sent over and over again to the list. Believe me I am not pulling a prank or anything and I have no idea why it is doing it. If there is something i can do to stop it, let me know. Otherwise, I hope it stops very soon. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 00:15:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:09:07 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: I don't know what is happening! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 05:45 PM 6/29/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com >I do not keep sending the message "a few questions." And I do not know why it keeps being sent over and over again to the list. Believe me I am not pulling a prank or anything and I have no idea why it is doing it. If there is something i can do to stop it, let me know. Otherwise, I hope it stops very soon. >Daniel Seems like some sort of mail loop at AOL. Do me a favour - try unsubscribing from the list for a few hours, and see if that makes it go away... then of course re-subscribe! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com { Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] } Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 08:26:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:26:38 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket ORBITAL. Their latest album BTW is awesome! There are two sample based instruments on their list, all the other instruments are analog, virtual analog, wavetable, additive, FM... Their sound programming is unbelievable. The list is here: - Ronald. >Julien Hagege wrote: > >Hi! >I was wondering who's using the virus in the "big business"? (Prodigy? Daft Punk? etc...) >Thanks > >------------------------------------------------ e-mail: hypnos@cyber6tem.com >web: http://www.cyber6tem.com >ICQ: 5538958 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 01:45:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Arpeggiator and Cord mode Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:41:10 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Rob, >Who uses a lot the cord mode in the arpeggiator? Last week I had a fab FM chord sound, arpeggiated at 3/16... This was pretty funky. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 02:27:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Julien Hagege" To: Subject: Famous users Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:26:23 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi! I was wondering who's using the virus in the "big business"? (Prodigy? Daft Punk? etc...) Thanks ------------------------------------------------ e-mail: hypnos@cyber6tem.com web: http://www.cyber6tem.com ICQ: 5538958 X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 02:36:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:31:23 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 02:26 AM 6/30/99 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi! >I was wondering who's using the virus in the "big business"? (Prodigy? Daft Punk? etc...) >Thanks Last I heard, KMFDM had quite a few Viruses. So does Depeche Mode. Prodigy has a couple as well, though they're Nord freaks too. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com { Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] } Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 02:39:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:36:45 EDT Subject: Re: Famous users To: hypnos@club-internet.fr, access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From SUBREACT@aol.com i am....... hehehe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 02:43:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Arpeggiator and Cord mode Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:39:54 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" Yessssssss. I loooooooooove the Chord mode. I got this patch that makes me think of Trauma Hounds... It really is a killa arp mode, and is very useful. At least IMO... Rick >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >Hi Rob, > >>Who uses a lot the cord mode in the arpeggiator? > >Last week I had a fab FM chord sound, arpeggiated at 3/16... This was pretty funky. > > >Cheers, >Thomas > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 15:47:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:46:42 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >p.s. isnt interestting the u.s. version of this release has NO track information what so ever......not even what songs are what tracks! Er. Mine has track titles on the side of the case. If yours doesn't you should return it to the shop where you bought it and demand a replacement or refund. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 07:48:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:49:42 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda A few virusses!? SOME nords? What? Everything counts in large amounts they say. And I have only one virus! (and two hands...) No, and I am not very famous. Made a record once. Been on a collectors CD with the prodigy. They were on the 1st track of CD1, I on the 6th of CD2. But without a virus. In fact, I am not famous at all I guess. Dimitri Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan >>Hi! >>I was wondering who's using the virus in the "big business"? (Prodigy? Daft Punk? etc...) >>Thanks >Last I heard, KMFDM had quite a few Viruses. So does Depeche Mode. >Prodigy has a couple as well, though they're Nord freaks too. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 10:04:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:59:46 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Famous users Cc: music-bar@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >From the Virus list: At 11:26 PM 6/29/99 +0000, you wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket ORBITAL. Their latest album BTW is awesome! There are two sample based instruments on their list, all the other instruments are analog, virtual analog, >wavetable, additive, FM... Their sound programming is unbelievable. The list is here: - Ronald. Interesting stuff, this - anyone know what a Yamaha OSZ mixing console is? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com { Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] } Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 10:23:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [24.28.34.159] From: Chris A To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Famous users Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:20:59 EDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris A hey, you're a hell of a lot closer than i am:) chris >From: Dimitri Sijperda >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Famous users >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:49:42 +0200 > >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >A few virusses!? SOME nords? What? Everything counts in large amounts they say. And I have only one virus! (and two hands...) No, and I am not very famous. Made a record once. Been on a collectors CD with the prodigy. They were on the 1st track of CD1, I on the 6th of CD2. But without a virus. In fact, I am not famous at all I guess. > >Dimitri > > >Jay Vaughan wrote: >>* From Jay Vaughan >>>Hi! >>>I was wondering who's using the virus in the "big business"? (Prodigy? >Daft >>>Punk? etc...) >>>Thanks >>Last I heard, KMFDM had quite a few Viruses. So does Depeche Mode. >>Prodigy has a couple as well, though they're Nord freaks too. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 10:23:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 01:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: Re: Famous users To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus antiloop uses one =) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 11:01:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Chris van der Merwe To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Famous users Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:02:40 +0200 Organization: Arnes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris van der Merwe I'm sure it's a digital mixer like the 01V, 02R, 03D etc... Strange though, I got a 1999 Yamaha Pro Audio Catalogue here next to me and I can't find it either! Chris Check out the Damn Funkies: http://mp3.com/artists/21/damn_funkies.html * From Jay Vaughan >From the Virus list: At 11:26 PM 6/29/99 +0000, you wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket ORBITAL. Their latest album BTW is awesome! There are two sample based instruments on their list, all the other instruments are analog, virtual analog, >wavetable, additive, FM... Their sound programming is unbelievable. The list is here: - Ronald. Interesting stuff, this - anyone know what a Yamaha OSZ mixing console is? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com { Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] } Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 13:17:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:27:01 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD I know the orbital roady/tech guy and he wanted me to add that list is not complete. heavy use of oberhiem expander, jupiter 6, roland system 100, all orbital mainstays were also used as well as the yamaha fs1r, jd800, and pulse. weld p.s. isnt interestting the u.s. version of this release has NO track information what so ever......not even what songs are what tracks! Ronald Pieket wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > >ORBITAL. Their latest album BTW is awesome! There are two sample based instruments on their list, all the other instruments are analog, virtual analog, wavetable, additive, FM... Their sound programming is unbelievable. > >The list is here: > >- Ronald. > >>Julien Hagege wrote: >> >>Hi! >>I was wondering who's using the virus in the "big business"? (Prodigy? Daft Punk? etc...) >>Thanks >> >>------------------------------------------------ e-mail: hypnos@cyber6tem.com >>web: http://www.cyber6tem.com >>ICQ: 5538958 >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 13:24:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:34:38 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD P.S. the mixers are actually Yamaha 02r's x2 cheers Weld Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >>From the Virus list: > >At 11:26 PM 6/29/99 +0000, you wrote: >>* From Ronald Pieket ORBITAL. Their latest album BTW is awesome! There are two sample based instruments on their list, all the other instruments are analog, virtual analog, >>wavetable, additive, FM... Their sound programming is unbelievable. The list is here: - Ronald. > >Interesting stuff, this - anyone know what a Yamaha OSZ mixing console is? > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{ Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] } Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 16:42:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:40:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill I know Hans Zimmer , the sound design guy, uses it a lot. On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Julien Hagege wrote: >Hi! >I was wondering who's using the virus in the "big business"? (Prodigy? Daft Punk? etc...) Thanks > >------------------------------------------------ e-mail: hypnos@cyber6tem.com >web: http://www.cyber6tem.com >ICQ: 5538958 > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 17:30:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:24:42 EDT Subject: velocity sensitive??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com My Virus is hooked up to my Korg Trinity but the Virus is not accepting velocity sensitivity from the keyboard. All the notes play the same no matter how hard or soft I hit the keys. Why is this? How can I get to play with velocity sensitivity? Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 18:26:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:23:58 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: FS: "Polivoks" (rare, vintage, soviet, analog synth) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" A friend of mine asked me to offer a Polivoks synth in his place. I is a russian analog monster, incidentally I have a website up about it where you can see much more: http://www.waf80.de/polivoks. Not to make things more complicated I prefer inquiries from Germany and Holland, since that is where the synth is located right now. Since I don't know what he is asking for, I would suggest you either make an offer or check back with me later. grooves and tchrps :) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 18:31:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:29:19 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: velocity sensitive??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >My Virus is hooked up to my Korg Trinity but the Virus is not accepting velocity sensitivity from the keyboard. All the notes play the same no matter how hard or soft I hit the keys. Why is this? How can I get to play with velocity sensitivity? unless the Trinity sends velocity as a nonstandard controller number (which is *very very* unlikely), all you need to do is to set up some mappings in the Assign[1,2,3] sections or in the modulation matrix. Most of the presets that come with the Virus are set up *not* to respond to velocity, aftertouch, or modulation -- but this can be changed in the menus. Anyone have ideas why the presets were set up this way? -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 19:45:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PARIBAS@INTERNET To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:41:50 +0200 Subject: New system update ?????????? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jason_BROWNE@paribas.com Does anyone know if there is a new system update planned or on the way ? 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 20:04:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "terminal bliss" To: Subject: Re: Famous users Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:12:38 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "terminal bliss" >* From WELD > >I know the orbital roady/tech guy and he wanted me to add that list is not complete. > >heavy use of oberhiem expander, jupiter 6, roland system 100, all orbital mainstays >were also used as well as the yamaha fs1r, jd800, and pulse. weld >p.s. isnt interestting the u.s. version of this release has NO track information >what so ever......not even what songs are what tracks! yes it does, look at the spine where usually just the band name is. i myself wasnt as impressed by the new orbital. track 3 on it is incredible, and a great pounding track, but i find that Insides was far better than it (one of the most brilliant techno/classical albums ive ever heard) and snivilization as far more wierd/insane and inventive in its own way, and orbital 2 pounds more.. i would have prefered if they would have taken this whole album in the direction of track 3 or their "satan" track. i think artists who try to rehash what was done on their previous release rarely live up to it. daniel cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 20:32:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Markward Wagner" To: Subject: programm change problems ; ( Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:25:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness hi all .... maybe someone can help with this simple problem.... i use a mpc2000 to sequence the virus....when i scroll through the programs of the virus with the program function in the mpc i can´t change any parameters of the virus...well i can but just for a short period then the sound from the virus sets back to the original parameter settings of the chosen sound.... is this a problem of the virus or the mpc...has anyone had these problems aswell.... some advice would be really great cause i´m playing live in a month and don´t want to write down every single sound......rather have it saved in the mpc which sound belongs to what track..... thanx in advance and have a nice day.......... mark ; ) X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 22:38:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:33:53 EDT Subject: Re: programm change problems ; ( To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com I know what you're saying. I control my Virus using a Korg trinity. When I scroll through banks and patches on the Trinity, it does control the Virus. However, when a sequence ends on the trinity's sequencer, the virus won't transmit any signal unless I change the patch on the virus. This is getting annoying and I still don't know why it happens. How can it transmit one moment but not at another. It must be a reset in certain parameters but I can't figure out which parameters they are. I will try to find out and if I do, I'll let you know. If anyone out there can help, please do. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! **> NEW: TekLab Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ <**X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 30 23:04:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:00:19 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Famous users Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 07:27 AM 6/30/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From WELD >I know the orbital roady/tech guy and he wanted me to add that list is not complete. >heavy use of oberhiem expander, jupiter 6, roland system 100, all orbital mainstays >were also used as well as the yamaha fs1r, jd800, and pulse. weld >p.s. isnt interestting the u.s. version of this release has NO track information >what so ever......not even what songs are what tracks! Have a look at the spine of the CD... they're on there. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com { Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] } Music Technology Forums: http://www.teklab.com/forums/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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