X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 1 17:33:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 17:41:00 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: S.O.S. - Lost sounds from the B-Bank!! Please help!! * From: Raymund Beyer Hallo List, thank you all for tips and help!!!! In the moment I am at home, so I canīt try out your tips but Iīll keep you informed. I tried a few things myself yesterday: screwing around on the paramteres didnīt help (in single & Multi mode). I also allready tried to play the sounds in single mode -> the donīt play... Well, I think some Viruses definately have problems with the B- Bank: * Gene Schwartz wrote: >I did experience problems with Bank B while I had my Virus, although these occurred before I upgraded to 1.53. Try this: scroll through the parameters on one of the affected sounds, and make sure that none of them have an error message. I lost sound in Bank B, and found that every input mode setting was 'illegal'. Thanx Gene, I think this is a good idea, because I noticed, that that the only way to hear something from a destroyed sound on bank B, is to pull up the level of the noise genertor. So maybe its the input setting - it would be kind of logical. regards Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 1 18:14:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:18:07 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Parapeek:51!!?!! Parapeek:S51!!!??? * From: "Paulo Abreu" Hello Last week I had 3 crashes with my Virus and this is starting to get me nervous...I guess I would appreciate any help as I do not know if I'm doing anything wrong. These crashes have occured while in SINGLE mode and when switching between paches (two of the times there was nothing playing on the Virus, it was only receiving MidiClock) and the message was always the same...." Parapeek: S51 Illegal Parameter Number" 1- I have OS 1.53, my Virus shares one output of my Midi Interface (Opcode Studio 4) with a Juno106, I have the midi signal comming from an Apple Powerbook540 (with Vision 3.5) and going to the Juno106 input and I have the Virus getting the signal from the Juno106 THRU. Note: no other synth/sampler complains about anything... 2- These crashes seem to be quite random and the only common thing is that they occured when switching from one sound to other, like, from A83 to A84, from A39 to A40 and from A25 to A24 (and these are still the factory sounds for OS 1.53). 3- I was not able to "sucessfully" repeat any of these crashes. What shall I do...one of these days I will be affraid to change patterns in a critical situation....Shall I filter the clock to the virus???Note that I double checked if there was any midi loop with the virus. Thanks, Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 1 21:03:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:03:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Parapeek:51!!?!! Parapeek:S51!!!??? * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Last week I had 3 crashes with my Virus and this is starting to get me nervous...I guess I would appreciate any help as I do not know if I'm doing anything wrong. These crashes have occured while in SINGLE mode and when switching between paches (two of the times there was nothing playing on the Virus, it was only receiving MidiClock) and the message was always the same...." Parapeek: S51 Illegal Parameter Number" > I have had this message as well -- off and on last week about 3 times, but yesterday during a recording session I encountered it 5 times in a row, and it was always while in SINGLE mode, after I'd just powered on the Virus, trying to adjust any parameter. The solution was to power it off, power it back on -- but I had to do it 4 times in a row before it finally stopped happening. I'll see if there's some way of reproducing the problem, and will post details when I have them... (My Virus is also OS 1.53 btw, with the factory patches loaded.) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 1 23:17:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:17:58 +0200 Subject: storage structure * From: molter Hi there! Could somebody please give me some few hints according to the storage structure of the Virus? 1. The System Update first/second.mid goes to the FlashROM, right? 2. The FlashROM contains the 2x128 factory singles and 128 factory multis, right? 3. The RAM contains 2x128 edited singles and 128 factory multis, right? 4. The MIDI Dump of comes from and goes to the RAM, right? 5. The don't Multis contain singles, they just point to single numbers in the RAM, right? 6. Is there any possibility to dump the whole RAM at once? Thanks for answering Christian, Bremen ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 11:34:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:20:19 +0100 Subject: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: Mark Terry Went to Turnkey in London (only shop to advertise the Virus at the moment). Is it in stock, I ask. Not yet unfortunately, came the strange reply. Ah, but I was demoing it last month in this very shop, I said. That was only a pre-release version and we took it off the shelves as people were getting pissed off that they couldn't buy one yet. Hmmm, I said, when are you getting it in? I have no idea, its all very irritating, they said. Right then, are you the only importers of the Virus? No, but no one else will have it yet either.... So where the hell can I buy a Virus from in the UK??? -Mark- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 11:38:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 98 11:41:21 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Lost B-Bank Sounds -> Access please listen! * From: Raymund Beyer Hallo List, A few days ago I had the problem with the lost B-Bank sounds. Gene had the right tip: its only the input device of the lost sounds, that is set to ILLIGAL by mistake! When I set it back to OFF the sound is working again! I can not tell how the sounds got lost. In the evening, when I left the studio, everything was running well. Next morning 50% of the B-Bank sounds were lost. I think this is a bug and should be added to the bugs list if not allready done, because some other people had the same problem (iīm using VirOS 1.53). Thanx for your help!!!!! Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 18:06:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:51:24 +0200 Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:20 AM +0200 on 02.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >So where the hell can I buy a Virus from in the UK??? When I firts read the postin I thought: "Wait a minute, I saw the Virus in Futre Music, didn't I?" But I can't seem to find a single ad with the virus in it. You could try to phone up all the places that advertise waldorf gear, since they are usually distributed by the same company. If you can't find any, how about a trip to the mainland to pick one up?... Good luck... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 21:03:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:23:25 -0400 Subject: Future Music / Twin Mode * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 6/2/98 4:51 PM >When I firts read the postin I thought: "Wait a minute, I saw the Virus in Futre Music, didn't I?" But I can't seem to find a single ad with the virus in it. If I remember correctly, a couple of months ago Future Music said they were going to review the virus the next month or "soon" but they have not reviewed it yet as far as I know. ...so what exactly does Twin Mode do on my beloved virus? Do Not Touch Me and Wait, Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 19:48:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 18:42:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: Mark Terry >Futre Music, didn't I?" But I can't seem to find a single ad with the It's in Sound On Sound. Turnkey is the only one to advertise, but then they're notorious for Vapourware adverts. And I've had enough of phoning every company under the sun on the offchance after trying to find a Prophecy a while back! >If you can't find any, how about a trip to the mainland to pick one up?... Not sure about voltage adjustment. As it is I'm planning to take all my gear to the States eventually, and the rest is all UK voltage. Any sales email addresses for Access that I can find out when stocks will be available? -Mark- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 19:59:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:59:02 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com At 11:20 AM +0200 on 02.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >So where the hell can I buy a Virus from in the UK??? This is odd: Why would we have them over here in the states for over 6 months, and they are not available in the UK? Are there some sort of import restrictions? I'm used to the other side, where we can't get fine European products from Gem or Cheetah over here.... (or Citroen, or Renault, or Vauxhall....) Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 20:00:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 11:01:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Not sure about voltage adjustment. As it is I'm planning to take all my gear to the States eventually, and the rest is all UK voltage. > It's not a big deal with gear that uses wall-warts -- it's very easy to replace the wall-wart with whatever version is available in the country you're in. Here in the US, I have a Yamaha TG55 and a Doepfer MS404 which were both designed to work on 220volts, powered off a $25 step-up transformer that I bought at a local Fry's (electronics super-store). 110v->220v, no problems. For your Virus purchase needs, I'm sure you could buy one from Music Central and get them to ship it for you. Probably the best way, considering their prices are really very good: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 22:29:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:29:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Future Music / Twin Mode * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >...so what exactly does Twin Mode do on my beloved virus? > Doubles up the amount of Oscillators used on each voice, fattening it up but reducing the overall polyphony. Sorta like Unison mode on older analogs, I guess. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 2 21:33:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 21:32:42 +0100 Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: Anders Palmqvist I donīt know about the UK, but at this place: http://www.musicians-gear.com/ I did some pretty nifty net-shopping. I succeeded where the swedish musicgear-traders fail. To actually get a Virus. And that to 2/3 of their prices. Never seen the guy, 2 phonecalls, 2 e-mails and a creditcardnumber straight in to cyberspace. But now the red beauty is in the house... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 3 16:03:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:16:56 BST Priority: normal Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: I have had a deposit down on a Virus with Turnkey since the end of March. They are currently telling me that I can expect delivery in about one month from now. I contacted TSi (European distributors for Access) who told me they were having real trouble getting enough units to meet demand because of problems on the Virus production line. I was told they are currently only able to ship about 10 units a month to Turnkey. This really does seem pretty poor considering avilability does not seem to be a problem outside of the UK. I am most pissed off with Turnkey who were happy to take my deposit telling me to expect delivery in 3 - 5 weeks. If they were'nt holding my money I would be inclined to import one from the US instead. Be warned potential UK purchasers, the waiting list seems to be about 3 months! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 3 18:08:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 18:06:16 +0100 Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: Anders Palmqvist access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: >This really does seem pretty poor considering avilability does not seem to be a problem outside of the UK. It is a problem even outside the UK. Like in Sweden, as an example... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 3 19:33:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 10:20:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Is Virus for sale ANYWHERE in the UK yet?!?! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > This really does seem pretty poor considering avilability does not seem to be >a problem outside of the UK. I am most pissed off with Turnkey who were happy >to take my deposit telling me to expect delivery in 3 - 5 weeks. If they were'nt holding my money I would be inclined to import one from the US instead. > Can't you get your money back? It seems weird to me that you can't just go in there and say "give me my deposit back now", and they won't do it. Here in the US it's illegal to do that sort of thing... Unless you've signed a prior written agreement that states no refunds, but even then there is recourse. FWIW, I ordered my Virus from Music Central on a Monday a few weeks ago and had it by Thursday. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 4 02:54:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 02:53:26 +0200 Subject: yo so people, where are all the people talking about this synthesizer??????? no more questions? no more suggestions? no more shit? so i think that we shall get a new os! where is access and why are they not not talking to us? come on access: give us a new os. we love you and we need it. love, marc p.s. FUCK USA!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 4 12:05:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:56:36 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Fw: yo, Virus still inspires me with 1.53 (and did find some great new sounds) Dit is een meerdelig bericht in MIME-indeling. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BD8FAF.D32AFAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Rob Papen Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: donderdag 4 juni 1998 11:52 Onderwerp: Re: yo, Virus still inspires me with 1.53 (and did find some = great new sounds) -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: donderdag 4 juni 1998 5:20 Onderwerp: yo =20 =20 so people,=20 where are all the people talking about this synthesizer???????=20 =20 no more questions? no more suggestions? no more shit?=20 =20 so i think that we shall get a new os!=20 =20 where is access and why are they not not talking to us?=20 =20 come on access: give us a new os. we love you and we need it.=20 =20 love,=20 marc=20 =20 p.s. FUCK USA!=20 =20 =20 =20 Yeeee, what a colour you use and big letters. Why fuck USA ?=20 =20 New software ? I did made some nice sounds (after 1.51) came out for = my Signature Set (still not ready, because it has to be good). At this = moment I did not discover that many sounds that uses the new features = after 1.51 !! =20 So why now already new software (besides de-bugging) ? The software = after 1.51 gives plenty new great possibilities for making new kind of = sounds ! =20 Another thing: =20 People who are talked about the bass respons of the Virus will never = say that again when they do play (after the release) with my RAPBASS RP. = It really moves my Dynaudio-speakers in centimeters. =20 After the release I hope this set will inspire the Access Virus = owners (who ordered the set) to make music an turn the knops. =20 For all the others who are pissed that these sounds are not for = free:=20 =20 Sorry but when you hire a carpenter for your house, he would also = liked to be payed. =20 I am a professional Sound-Designer and need to feed my childeren. It = is even so that after the Signature Set I will concentrate on CD-ROMS = for EMU and Akai samplers. =20 This means that owners of a Microwave XT our Microwave II have to = wait very long before they will have new RP sounds. (from the mails I = know that people love the few factory-sounds and multies I did program = for the new Microwaves). The ZIP-KICK RP from the factory-set is already = very much sampled !! =20 I hope I do not upset people with this e-mail, =20 Regards, =20 Rob Papen =20 =20 =20 robpapen@multiweb.nl =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BD8FAF.D32AFAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-----Oorspronkelijk = bericht-----
Van:=20 Rob Papen <robpapen@multiweb.nl>
A= an:=20 access-list@teklab.com = <access-list@teklab.com>
= Datum:=20 donderdag 4 juni 1998 11:52
Onderwerp: Re: yo, Virus still = inspires me with 1.53 (and did find some great new = sounds)

 
-----Oorspronkelijk=20 bericht-----
Van: access-list@teklab.com = <access-list@teklab.com>
= Aan:=20 access-list@tl36.teklab.com=20 <access-list@tl36.teklab.com>
Datum:=20 donderdag 4 juni 1998 5:20
Onderwerp:=20 yo

so people,

where are all=20 the people talking about this = synthesizer???????

no = more=20 questions? no more suggestions? no more = shit?

so = i think that=20 we shall get a new os!

where is access=20 and why are they not not talking to us?

come on=20 access: give us a new os. we love you and we need=20 it.

love,
         &nb= sp; =20 marc=20

p.s. FUCK=20 USA!

 

Yeeee, what a colour you use and big letters. Why fuck USA ?

New software ? I did made some nice sounds (after 1.51) came out = for my=20 Signature Set (still not ready, because it has to be good). At this = moment I=20 did not discover that many sounds that uses the new features after = 1.51=20 !!

So why now already new software (besides de-bugging) ? The = software after=20 1.51 gives plenty new great possibilities for making new kind of = sounds=20 !

Another thing:

People who are talked about the bass respons of the Virus will = never say=20 that again when they do play (after the release) with my RAPBASS RP. = It=20 really moves my Dynaudio-speakers in centimeters.

After the release I hope this set will inspire the Access Virus = owners=20 (who ordered the set) to make music an turn the knops.

For all the others who are pissed that these sounds are not for=20 free: 

Sorry but when you hire a carpenter for your house, he would also = liked=20 to be payed.

I am a professional Sound-Designer and need to feed my childeren. = It is=20 even so that after the Signature Set I will concentrate on CD-ROMS = for EMU=20 and Akai samplers.

This means that owners of a Microwave XT our Microwave II have to = wait=20 very long before they will have new RP sounds. (from the mails I = know that=20 people love the few factory-sounds and multies I did program for the = new=20 Microwaves). The ZIP-KICK RP from the factory-set is already very = much=20 sampled !!

I hope I do not upset people with this e-mail,

Regards,

Rob Papen

 

robpapen@multiweb.nl

<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BD8FAF.D32AFAE0-- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 4 13:08:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 07:05:51 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Re: yo * From: evening >where is access and why are they not not talking to us? > >come on access: give us a new os. we love you and we need it. > >love, >marc > >p.s. FUCK USA! That's sure to start some activity on the list. troll... troll... troll... your boat.. Not a bad idea though - there are many people in the US who would like a good fuck, hey look at our president - he'll fuck any thing... ;-) Anyway, Are there any Digital Performer/Performer users on this list? I'd like to see what the interest is in building a custom console. thanks, jmw ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 4 15:15:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 08:14:55 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: MOTU? MOTU! * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com Access-list wrote: * Are there any Digital Performer/Performer users on this list? I'd like to >see what the interest is in building a custom console. I've used Performer for years and years - love the software. BUT: I can't really see the point to creating a custom console for the Virus. My virus sits atop my master keyboard, mere inches from my CRT.... I use the Virus' knobs to send controller info for recording in sequences, then strip out the controller data and place it on distinct tracks. I'd be interested to know what you would gain by creating a console for an instrument that has such an excellent User Interface that transmits midi-friendly controllers instead of sysex.... This question can be answered by Emagic people too. And I happen to like it here in the US, thanks. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 4 19:31:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 13:28:20 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Re: MOTU? MOTU! * From: evening >I'd be interested to know what you would gain by creating a console for an instrument that has such an excellent User Interface that transmits midi-friendly controllers instead of sysex.... This question can be answered by Emagic people too. > >And I happen to like it here in the US, thanks. You're right - creating a straight-ahead mirror of the front panel would be a waste of time. I ask to see if someone might already have created one. I guess having a visual representation of where parameters are set on multiple channels would be cool because the front panel of the Virus is only active for one channel at a time. then there are more experimental uses:X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 4 19:43:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 10:39:55 -0700 Subject: Re: MOTU? MOTU! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >You're right - creating a straight-ahead mirror of the front panel would be a waste of time. >I ask to see if someone might already have created one. I guess having a visual representation of where parameters are set on multiple channels would be cool because the front panel of the Virus is only active for one channel at a time. > I'm going to be making a few Peavey PC1600X patches to control some of the LCD-only functions on my Virus -- anyone interested in assisting? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 4 23:06:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 17:04:11 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: MOTU/PC1600 consoles * From: evening The second half of my email got chopped here it is - then there are more experimental uses:X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 5 01:55:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 98 19:52:34 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Re: MOTU? MOTU! * From: evening The listserv is doing something wierd: choppping off my emails Anyway here is the missing piece again... I've been working on a console for My ASRx where multiple controllers on multiple channels are slaved/scaled in varying degrees by one or two sliders or another controller (like keyboard velocity). It's kind of a psuedo-random mutation knob. i.e. when I move the slider *everything* changes based on its current value - Octave, filter, amp. env., filter cutoff, pan, volume etc. ( on all channels ) It's pretty darn cool & the results can be unpredictable.It's also great for creating patches. I hope to work on a Max patch this summer that will overcome some of the limits of the custom consoles. Anyway, I thought about the Virus in this context and imagined it to be really scary! I'll go ahead and make a console and notify the list when its done. peace, jmw PS- I'm interested in the PC1600 progs - will progs from the 1600x work on a 1600? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 5 10:34:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:33:45 +0200 Subject: Re: MOTU? MOTU! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:52 AM +0200 on 05.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Anyway, I thought about the Virus in this context and imagined it to be really scary! >I'll go ahead and make a console and notify the list when its done. That's a great idea. Care to share more details so someone (or even myself) could do something like that for Logic as well? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 5 14:52:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 5 Jun 98 08:49:41 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: details about my little experiment.... * From: evening >That's a great idea. Care to share more details so someone (or even myself) could do something like that for Logic as well? I'm not sure what kind of midi processing feature Logic has, but basically the controls that I created work like this: Performer allows for the creation of onscreen sliders, buttons, menus & knobs which can send any type of midi data - controllers, sysex, whatever. These sliders can also be be slaved to incoming midi data from a pitch wheel or velocity. The sliders can be slaved to each other as well, creating groups like a mixing console. The cool thing is that you can vary how the slaves respond to the master - 1. an exact match, 2. Scaled by a definable percentage, or offset by a specific amount, the polarity can also be inverted so that the slave responds inversley to the master. I set up a bunch of sliders to control various parameters on multiple channels. Parameters like octave shift, resonance, cutoff, attack etc. yield the most noticable changes. Pan, vol & FX bus also work to create changes in the overall mix. I then slaved all of these parameters to two separate master faders which I set to be controlled by incoming note number & velocity (any controller will do..), altering how the slaves responded to the Masters - some will follow the master exactly but in reverse, others are scaled by varying degrees. Next I recorded a bunch of simple tracks & looped them, then by playing the keyboard, the parameters change on all channels by different amounts depending on key number & velocity. I even sent the output of an sequencer to control the masters which brought me back to the days of patching an analog sequencer to control filter cutoff, etc.. I haven't done this with the Virus yet because my wife has claimed it as her own and integrated it into her setup! I'm waiting for another one! (ouch... my credit card hurts). I hope to create a Max patch that will do all of this as a stand alone OMS/Mac application. comments & questions are welcome... PS - Does anyone have the sysex specs for the Virus? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 5 19:37:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:12:07 -0400 Subject: Re: details about my little experiment.... * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: details about my little experiment.... Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 6/5/98 8:49 AM >I haven't done this with the Virus yet because my wife has claimed it as her own and integrated it into her setup! I'm waiting for another one! (ouch... my credit card hurts). Yikes! :) Your gear has been kidnapped!!!!!! :) a scary situation... :) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 5 17:35:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: nixe.ISAR.net: Ucsdsoft set sender to csdsun2!csdsoft.de!rudolf using -f Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:31:58 +0200 Encoding: 22 TEXT, 53 UUENCODE Subject: AW: details about my little experiment.... * From: Rudolf Lindner >>PS - Does anyone have the sysex specs for the Virus? get http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/sysex.html BTW, I told to this list about my midi soft-thru problems, Thanks to all who responded. In the meantime I updated the OS to 1.53 and it runs much better, but the problem is still there - sometimes. I think it has to do with the active sensing messages, that my old Roland D20 sends. When the Virus hangs and I switch of the Roland, the Virus 'comes back'. Hello ACCESS, is there trouble with receiving midi realtime messages? I finally solved the problem, bying another midi adapter. So the Virus has its own connection to my PC. Greetings, Rudolf ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:WINMAIL.DAT (????/----) (00008F2A)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 5 23:41:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:40:29 +0100 Subject: Re: details about my little experiment.... * From: Anders Palmqvist >I hope to create a Max patch that will do all of this as a stand alone OMS/Mac application. > >comments & questions are welcome... I think itīs great thinking man. Basically with one finger on one modulationwheel you could make the walls melt, or crumble to dust, whithin a couple of millimeters sliding. At least with the red beast on the team. I hope the chip inside is still with us when the going gets rough... If we blend in the PhraseSynth in the sublevels of Cubase however it could get out of hand. Itīs a great mathemagic God in itself. All the range from perfect precision to total random chaos in terms of transforming midi-data. "They could take over you know...the computors!" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 6 09:54:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:53:22 EDT Subject: FAQ's? * From: Grossin@aol.com Where are the tips and tricks or other helpful things about the VIRUS. Only the same persons talk about all of the world but not realy about the VIRUS. As I joined this list I hoped to find some interested musicans who wrote about the VIRUS. But now? Only blabla and nothing useful. I leave this list and use my time better in making music with my VIRUS, because IT IS A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT-you maybe know??? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 6 22:27:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 10:08:43 +0200 Subject: Re: FAQ's? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:53 AM +0200 on 06.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >As I joined this list I hoped to find some interested musicans who wrote about the VIRUS. But now? Only blabla and nothing useful. I leave this list and use my time better in making music with my VIRUS, because IT IS A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT-you maybe know??? Good point, but why don't you start it by posting some helpful tricks instead of just leaving? Hope you can turn your anger into some great sounding music -you know? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 6 15:14:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:13:34 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Big fun with a great synth ! * From: "Rob Papen" Hi Virus lovers, Wat I really must tell you, is that again I did find some nice sounds with this Virus. What a great synth. It is doing thing's I did not expect !! Just now I did program a nice pad-sounds that is very very close to the sound of my Jupiter-8. Ofcourse I named it JP-12. Few weeks ago there was this discussion about the Virus and its bass respons. After that I did program a bass that moves you speakers by centimeters ! (RAPBASS). Personally I do find the Virus very good in bass respons. To much bass must be taken away while mixing (most of the time) because it otherwise it takes to much energy and makes the mix to soft. Enjoy your Virus with such a big fun as I do, Rob Papen p.s. But the music and sounds in Heaven are still far more better. ( a Christian friend of mine did have a listen to it shortly before he died and according to him, no words can explain the beauty of the sound and music). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 7 10:30:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 20:06:08 +0100 Subject: unsuscribe * From: Schorsch UNSUSCRIBE please ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 6 21:48:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 12:37:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Big fun with a great synth ! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 03:13 PM 6/6/98 +0200, you wrote: >Just now I did program a nice pad-sounds that is very very close to the sound of my Jupiter-8. Ofcourse I named it JP-12. Few weeks ago there was this discussion about the Virus and its bass respons. >After that I did program a bass that moves you speakers by centimeters ! (RAPBASS). > Rob -- is it possible you're going to make these sounds available for us to hear them? As a new Virus user, I for one would like to learn more from other programmers... perhaps you can upload them to Canine's web site or something? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 7 13:56:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 08:04:56 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Big fun with a great synth ! * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net hi rob hows it goin im wonderin if your still doin the virus patch set you were going to do???? also any mw xt(2) patches you have to trade??? i have some crazy things i did witht randoim function anyway take care weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 7 20:53:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: unsuscribe * From: Tim Anderson >* From: Schorsch > >UNSUSCRIBE Why is it that so many people have such a problem spelling the word unsubscribe? Heh. Sorry, its just an observation based on every one of the email lists that I subscribe to constantly has people sending these types of messages, and after a while it really gets on my nerves. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 8 12:55:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:54:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Big fun with a great synth ! * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: zondag 7 juni 1998 16:56 Onderwerp: Re: Big fun with a great synth ! |* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net | |hi rob |hows it goin |im wonderin if your still doin the virus patch set you were |going to do???? It has to be good and cool. But I am on my way making it. I want to finish a set that make people happy. Anyhow it will be the last set I am making for hardware synth's. After that I will focus on the planned Emu EOS set and for the new Akai samplers. |also any mw xt(2) patches you have to trade??? i have some |crazy things i did witht randoim function |anyway take care Sorry, but there is nothing planned for the Microwave II and XT. For that you will need to be patient, very patient. Regards, Rob |weld |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 8 22:41:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:40:44 EDT Subject: Re: Big fun etc. bass response * From: Elhardt@aol.com <> People keep mentioning the Virus bass response, probably because some people have made mention to the fact that the Virus is not as fat sounding as other analog synths. There is a difference. The Virus can do bass sounds, it is just a thinner sounding synth over all then say a Moog, which has more bass content even in the mid range. The Virus has more of an Arp sound. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 8 17:37:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 4:39:47 BST Priority: normal Subject: Virus availability in the UK * From: For anyone who might remember my moaning about Turnkey taking my deposit on a Virus and then being unable to deliver for at least 3 months; I got a letter from them on Friday offering me my deposit back if I wanted. (Do you think someone from Turnkey reads these pages?) Back in April I might have taken this offer up and bought one from the US. As it is, my "advantageous position" on the waiting list means I am inclined to hang on and get a unit which, being bought in this country, will at least have a meaningful warranty. (Do you think Turnkey have reckoned on this?) Perhaps I am just a cynic and am doing them a diservice - I'm sure they're no different from any other retailer. What fun it is being a punter! Is there anyone out there in the UK who has had similar experiences? Is there anyone out there in the UK who has got hold of a Virus from Turnkey? Steve (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 10:28:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 08:13:28 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Virus availability in the UK * From: Paul Nagle On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 4:39:47 BST, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Perhaps I am just a cynic and am doing them a diservice - I'm sure they're no different from any other retailer. What fun it is being a punter! I find they are pretty good although maybe I'm not the best person to judge. >Is there anyone out there in the UK who has had similar experiences? I got my money back from them after waiting for one of the Spirit Racpac mixers. No problems. >Is there anyone out there in the UK who has got hold of a Virus from Turnkey? At least one. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 18:30:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: redmac@pop3.rconnect.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:32:09 +0100 Subject: Access up for trade... * From: Mark Redenius Hello all... I've got an Access Virus I'm looking to trade off for an analog modular setup of some sort (Arp 2600, System 100, etc...) or a Studio Electronics ATC-1 perhaps. It's brand new with all accessories. I'm just posting this here with the thought that someone may be looking for a Virus or know someone who is... Let me know if you're interested... thanks! mark redmac@rconnect.com http://homepage.rconnect.com/redmac "Most of us don't know exactly what we want, but we're pretty sure we don't have it!" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 12:51:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:49:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Big fun etc. bass response * From: "Rob Papen" |* From: Elhardt@aol.com | |<> | |People keep mentioning the Virus bass response, probably because some people |have made mention to the fact that the Virus is not as fat sounding as other |analog synths. There is a difference. The Virus can do bass sounds, it is |just a thinner sounding synth over all then say a Moog, which has more bass |content even in the mid range. The Virus has more of an Arp sound. | While mixing a song, most of the time the bass response of synths is to much. It makes the mix sound soft and less punchy (if you do not correct it). I agree that the Virus is different then an analogue synth. My Jupiter-8 has also a very different bass respons compaired to my Mini-moog. Still they both are very usefull in the music. And that is what I mean to say. Regards, Rob Papen |-Elhardt |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 13:15:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:53:25 +0100 Subject: Re: Virus availability in the UK * From: Mark Terry So if you import the Virus from the States (say), does it lose its warranty? A 900 quid investment with no warranty is a scary prospect. I'm confused as to how I've been quoted the following prices for it:- UK (as if!) - 900 pounds Germany - 812 pounds equivalent US - 730 pounds equivalent Quite a range, you'll agree! -Mark- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 15:48:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:46:32 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Big fun etc. bass response * From: "Howard Scarr" Hi there >People keep mentioning the Virus bass response, probably because some people have made mention to the fact that the Virus is not as fat sounding as other analog synths. There is a difference. The Virus can do bass sounds, it is just a thinner sounding synth over all then say a Moog, which has more bass content even in the mid range. The Virus has more of an Arp sound. Statements like this are the reason why such rumours arise. The 12db/octave "ARP sound" (Axxe and some Odysseys) is of course possible on the Virus, but also (e.g.) any Minimoog sound I've ever heard (except for the lowest note triggering). BTW: How much bass "response" do you really need? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 16:52:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:53:17 BST Priority: normal Subject: Re: Virus availability in the UK * From: Electronic things always seem to be cheaper in the States, even when they are not made there (somebody must be rippin' us off somewhere). Don't forget there would also be tax to pay (import duty + VAT presumably). I have a friend who imported a K2000 and reckoned he'd saved a few hundred quid. As to the waranty situation, I would have thought that an imported instrument would still have a valid waranty, subject to mains considerations ("did you use the proper PSU" they might ask?) The question is, do you really want to have to send it back to the US if it goes wrong? STEVE (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 01:31:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 16:33:31 +0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Subject: Virus Crashing.. * From: Neumark Has anyone experienced freezing with the new 1.53 system? The system on mine has locked up sometimes when I scroll through programs. Does this happen with anyone else? -Noah ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 17:39:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:40:49 +0100 Organization: Institut f. Immunologie Subject: Re: Big fun etc. bass response * From: alexander renner Funny to read about this very long and emotional discussion about the bass of the virus. We should make a contest of who is making the deepest moogie-like super sucking low bass. boooooooooooom ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 18:49:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:48:38 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Big fun etc. bass response * From: Elhardt@aol.com >People keep mentioning the Virus bass response, probably because some people have made mention to the fact that the Virus is not as fat sounding as other analog synths. There is a difference. The Virus can do bass sounds, it is just a thinner sounding synth over all then say a Moog, which has more bass content even in the mid range. The Virus has more of an Arp sound. <> Once again, people are missing the point I brought up in the first place. It was about the general tone/thickness of the Virus even in the mid range. The Arp Odysseys I have heard had a 24db filter. It just sounded more like a 12db. A thinner sound doesn't mean an inferior sound. I myself prefer the more solid, thick and punchy Moog sound. I use synths for all polyphonic parts, not just bass or lead (if lead even applies in complex polyphonic music). -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 23:45:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:43:35 +0000 Subject: Re: Access up for trade... * From: Rich Mergner Hello, I have no analog synth to trade. Would you consider a cash/cod payment? Are you located in the USA? Please list you asking price if this acceptable? v/r Rich Mergner richjm@erols.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 01:55:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: redmac@pop3.rconnect.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:57:56 +0100 Subject: Re: Access up for trade... * From: Mark Redenius This is in reference to the new Access Virus I listed for trade... I would sell it, of course for $1025 shipped COD... $1000 if you want to prepay via Money Order. I have plenty of references for those who would consider this option. I am in the US... Minnesota to be exact... and no, it's not cold here all the time... just most of the time ;-) Thanks... mark >* From: Rich Mergner > >Hello, > >I have no analog synth to trade. Would you consider a cash/cod payment? > >Are you located in the USA? Please list you asking price if this acceptable? > >v/r > >Rich Mergner >richjm@erols.com > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! redmac@rconnect.com http://homepage.rconnect.com/redmac "Most of us don't know exactly what we want, but we're pretty sure we don't have it!" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 21:26:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:25:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: Virus availability in the UK * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com Some wrote in about Virus US prices ($1200) not including Tax, while UK 900 does include VAT. It's worth noting that first: If you buy mail-order in the US, you do not pay tax at all. Second, tax (should you pay it) varies between 4-7%, as opposed to VAT of 18-22% (from what I know). But isn't there at least one German store that advertises in SOS saying "No VAT!" ??? Also, doesn't it only cost around $75 RT to travel to the continent and pick one up, put it in a knapsack, and go home happy? In addition, with regards to shipping a broken Virus to the US - that would make little sense, since all the US distributors would do is ship it right back to Germany. I'd bet that you could have warranty issues dealt with through Access directly, and keep it there on the continent. Jim ---------- From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 5:53 AM To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus availability in the UK * From: Mark Terry So if you import the Virus from the States (say), does it lose its warranty? A 900 quid investment with no warranty is a scary prospect. I'm confused as to how I've been quoted the following prices for it:- UK (as if!) - 900 pounds Germany - 812 pounds equivalent US - 730 pounds equivalent Quite a range, you'll agree! -Mark- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 23:38:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:37:45 +0200 Subject: cakewalk sysex * From: molter Hi! I know that it is not possible to update the virus via cakewalk. Is it also impossible to dump Single or Multi Data from/to cakewalk? I tried it and Single Buffers worked, Multis didn't. Am I doing something wrong or is this a known problem? There is a rumour that sysex transmission via calkewalk could harm the virus. Is this right? Thanks Chris ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 9 23:05:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:23:18 -0800 Subject: RE: Virus availability in the UK * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com > >Some wrote in about Virus US prices ($1200) not including Tax, while UK 900 does include VAT. It's worth noting that first: If you buy mail-order in the US, you do not pay tax at all. Well, if the mail order outlet is out of state... >Second, tax (should >you pay it) varies between 4-7%, S.F. tax is 8.5 % ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 01:32:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 01:31:23 +0100 Subject: Modulation * From: Anders Palmqvist Being a very fresh owner of the Virus and just the other day getting hold of the english manual, I’m happily lost in the simulated analog world. The plot thickens and guidance would be nice. 1) Some fancy targets for modulation (like all the ”clock”-stuff) are organized under Poly Pressure Controllers instead of Midi Controllers. How do I reach these ”HiPage”-controllers? And is that to the cost of the ”LoPage”-controllers, either / or? 2) If weīre stuck with either / or, DelayTime gets interesting as a target for modulation in the Midi Controller-section as a substitute for Clock-beats. But 0-127? How do get a tight-to-the-beat-bounce out of that delay? 3) What is that dot, appearing sometimes at the place of the filled or empty note? Itīs not a problem as it seems to me, but I want to understand... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 04:04:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 98 22:02:03 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Galaxy librarian module problems.... * From: evening I've been having problems with the Galaxy module for the Virus - I keep getting "257 bytes were expected but only 3 were received" - sometimes I get "only 11 were received" My Virus is functioning properly as far as I can tell. any suggestions? also on a slightly related topic: How do you get both Virus banks to appear in Studio Visions patch list window - I can only get either bank A or B to appear but not both...help appreciated here too! thanks, jmw ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 04:04:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 98 22:02:16 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Re: Modulation * From: evening > >1) Some fancy targets for modulation (like all the ”clock”-stuff) are organized under Poly Pressure Controllers instead of Midi Controllers. How do I reach these ”HiPage”-controllers? And is that to the cost of the ”LoPage”-controllers, either / or? The low page/ high page control option just gives you a choice as to how you want to control the various parameters on the Virus - either CC messages or sysex for the low page & poly aftertouch or sysex for the high page. The choice depeends on the type of controller you have available (I guess). I personally find CC"s & Poly key pressure to be easier to deal with. Just in case anyone cares the midi string for poly key pressure looks like this - I'm really not hip to all of this hexidecimal stuff but I needed know it in order to program my PC1600 to sent poly after touch: An - where n = 0 - F [this defines the channel on which polykey is sent] vv - the hex for midi note number 00-7F vv - the parameter value 00-7F example - "A0 3C 40" would send polytouch on channel 1 , note number 60 (C4), with a value of 64. hopes this helps ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 06:04:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:54:11 -0500 Subject: List Problem * From: chuck Dear List Tech Person, I've been removed from the list twice in the last month, and had to re-subscribe. The list has so much good info, I hate to miss 1 day of info about the virus. What's up. Has this happened to other list members? Is there and archive FTP of all saved list questions day by day? Thanks, Chuck ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 07:01:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:02:53 -0700 Subject: Re: List Problem * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >I've been removed from the list twice in the last month, and had to re-subscribe. The list has so much good info, I hate to miss 1 day of info about the virus. What's up. Has this happened to other list members? Is there and archive FTP of all saved list questions day by day? If there's any problems with your mail account (it bounces, or teklab gets messages about full mailboxes etc), you will be automatically unsubbed from the list to prevent list problems... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 10:21:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:08:48 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus availability in the UK * From: "Martin Selway" I imported from USA once anf had to pay 25% VAT (the danish going rate) when it arrived in Denmark. If I import from the EU, no problem. If you can convince the exporter to write "birthday present" on the customs declaration form it may help to avoid extra tax (it worked for me once). I've tried to order a Virus from Turnkey for months but they never had any. Anyway they've been in Denmark for a couple of months now, retail price approx. Ģ1500 incl. VAT MARTIN >>Some wrote in about Virus US prices ($1200) not including Tax, while UK 900 does include VAT. It's worth noting that first: If you buy mail-order in the US, you do not pay tax at all. > >Well, if the mail order outlet is out of state... > >>Second, tax (should >>you pay it) varies between 4-7%, > >S.F. tax is 8.5 % ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 19:31:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:22:02 +0200 Subject: version 1.53 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Today I received a disc with 1.53 on it and a note telling people where to look for updates (TSi and my website...;) Nice... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 10 19:22:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mit, 10 Jun 98 16:54:45 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: RE: Virus availability in the UK * From: Marc Schlaile if you export a device you'll get back the country's VAT and you'll pay the VAT of the country you import the device. i dunno if this is true everywhere, at least here in germany it is like this. in general the british pound is really strong against the DM so it's a good advice to buy things in germany, at least for english people. we have several customers from england and they are quiet happy with the situation these days. a common offer for the virus here is DM 2350.- regards, marc ................................................................... | production | arrangement | remix | sounddesign | music publisher | ................................................................... babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 11 16:37:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:42:18 BST Priority: normal Subject: Moogy bass response? * From: I find all this bottom end debate very interesting as I was hoping to get some Moogy lead sounds out of my Virus when it arrives. My brief encounter with the Demo model at Turnkey seemed to suggest it ought to be possible to get this kind of sound. How about this for a possible approach: Make up a patch using the parallel filter mode in which one filter is left fully open and the other is somewhat closed. Fiddling with the second filter's cutoff and the filter mix control should allow you to make a sound that is fairly thick in the bottom to mid range. Yes? No? (Using the 'oscillator split' filter mode and different waveforms for the two oscillators might be worth trying too.) Then try shoving the whole thing back through another patch utilising the serial filter mode with the saturation on. Anyone care to try it? STEVE (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 11 16:50:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:48:40 +0200 Subject: RE: Virus availability in the UK * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:54 PM +0200 on 10.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >customers from england and they are quiet happy with the situation these days. a common offer for the virus here is DM 2350.- unfortunately only if you are lucky. The price went up to about 2800 DM recently... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 11 16:50:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:56:37 BST Priority: normal Subject: More on the Moog sound * From: Further to my previous message about possible ways to get a Moogy sound, what about the issue of constant time as opposed to constant rate potamento. Which does the Virus employ? I suppose the problem with my suggestion of putting one patch back through a second to attempt to get a thicker bottom end is that in a live situation you would need to keep jumping between different parts of your Multi to tweek the different aspects of your sound. Correct me if I'm wrong. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 11 17:28:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:28:45 +0200 Subject: lekker lekker Website * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi everyone, for all of you who are not watching soccer all day and still find time to use your virus and use the web, I finally had a chancve to update the website, the PDFs are up and running now, please let me know if you find any more errors... thanks for your patience... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 11 20:00:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: jelo@eng.Trimble.COM Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:02:02 -0700 Organization: Trimble Navigation Subject: Crashes * From: Jeff Elo Hello, I am new to this list, just having bought my virus about a month ago. I absolutely love this synth, except for this reoccuring bug I keep experiencing: I'll be tweaking a knob (cutoff 1), slowly increasing it's value until the end of a phrase, and then I quickly drop it back to the original value. Almost every time I do this, it causes the synth to crash, giving the error message "PARAPEEK: Illegal Parameter" flashing on the screen, and the notes just hang. It requires a power-cycle to fix. This only seems to happen when I turn the knob down quickly at the end of a phrase (maybe it has something to do with lots of midi data like cymbal crashes, etc, at the end of the phrase?) I am running system 1.53 Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas on what to do? Thanks, Jeff ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 11 17:44:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 4:47:09 BST Priority: normal Subject: Moogy bass response? * From: From: Self To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Moogy bass response? Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:42:17 I find all this bottom end debate very interesting as I was hoping to get some Moogy lead sounds out of my Virus when it arrives. My brief encounter with the Demo model at Turnkey seemed to suggest it ought to be possible to get this kind of sound. How about this for a possible approach: Make up a patch using the parallel filter mode in which one filter is left fully open and the other is somewhat closed. Fiddling with the second filter's cutoff and the filter mix control should allow you to make a sound that is fairly thick in the bottom to mid range. Yes? No? (Using the 'oscillator split' filter mode and different waveforms for the two oscillators might be worth trying too.) Then try shoving the whole thing back through another patch utilising the serial filter mode with the saturation on. Anyone care to try it? STEVE (n-tropic) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 12 18:09:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:07:43 +0200 Subject: Vi-Bass * From: molter Hi! I'm in the middle of a project and don't dare to make some cakewalk dump experiments. Can anybody tell me the preset parameter of: A15 Vi-Bass Oscillator 2 semitone? Thanks, greetings Chris ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 12 18:24:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:24:51 +0200 Subject: parameter2 * From: molter Sorry, I forgot to ask for the Cutoff1 Parameter... (A15 Vi-Bass) Thanks Chris ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 13 15:17:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 15:16:20 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Vi-Bass * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 12 juni 1998 21:30 Onderwerp: Vi-Bass |* From: molter | |Hi! |I'm in the middle of a project and don't dare to make some cakewalk dump |experiments. |Can anybody tell me the preset parameter of: |A15 Vi-Bass Oscillator 2 semitone? It is zero. And filter 1 cutoff is 41 Rob |Thanks, greetings | |Chris | |********** ********** |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 14 08:15:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:17:32 -0800 Cc: gsfa@netcom.com Subject: Re: Big fun etc. bass response * From: Doug Masla >* From: Elhardt@aol.com > ><> > >People keep mentioning the Virus bass response, probably because some people have made mention to the fact that the Virus is not as fat sounding as other analog synths. There is a difference. The Virus can do bass sounds, it is just a thinner sounding synth over all then say a Moog, which has more bass content even in the mid range. The Virus has more of an Arp sound. > .>>Elhardt I recently sold a very large modular Moog system and have found that the Virus cam replecate most the soounds of the Moog very well (with the exception of those usong the fixed filter bank)..the key to heavy Moog bass(or any other sounds is the filter saturation settings and usinf series LP filter settings): 1-set the filters to series lowPass (I pref. series 4 mode,but experiment) 2-osc.1 to saw/asc.2 to pulse at 40% 3-play with the saturation,this gives the filters the Moog sound 4-blend in sub-osc. level and adj. osc. mix to taste. 5-no key tracking to the filter Filter feq./Q as well as env. are up to you but for a good puncy bass I set the filter manualy to the timber I want and use the VCA env. for the out curve. option:use the same patch,offset the filter/osc.mix ect. in multi-mode (use same midi channel) and layer as fat as you want......(this yeilds very fat sounds....) Many people have come to my studio and not be able to tell if the patch is off my memory moog or the Virus..... the virus is very flexable but I would not call it ARP like in its sound,,(I have 2x ARP2600's in my studio)and purchased my first one in 1973....... I love the virus and fellit ti be one of the best synths and most flexable to caome along in a long time....... Cheers Doug M. Synthwerks Studios Los Angeles Ca. USA ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 14 10:54:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:51:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Crashes * From: "Howard Scarr" >the error message "PARAPEEK: Illegal Parameter" flashing on the screen, and the notes just hang. It requires a power-cycle to fix. This only seems to happen when I turn the knob down quickly at the end of a phrase (maybe it has something to do with lots of midi data like cymbal crashes, etc, at the end of the phrase?) I am running system 1.53 >Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas on what to do? I get a "Parapeek" now and again from a few other actions e.g. changing programs. I reckon Access has heard this a few times by now, and will be looking into it - I hope they can reproduce these errors (they didn't seem happy about it when I mentioned my problem immediately after 1.53 came out!) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 14 12:33:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:32:10 +0200 Subject: Re: Crashes * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >I get a "Parapeek" now and again from a few other actions e.g. changing programs. > >I reckon Access has heard this a few times by now, and will be looking into it - I hope they can reproduce these errors (they didn't seem happy about it when I mentioned my problem immediately after 1.53 came out!) No , I believe they certailny aren't happy about the error, however they are very happy someone found it. It seems that a workaround exists for the time being, access told me these errors seem to only occur when in Snap mode. Please try to set your Virus Knobs to Jump and see if the problem persists. A bugfixing version is on its way. Or so I was told yesterday. have a great day... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 14 20:45:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:44:44 EDT Subject: Re: Big fun etc. bass response * From: Elhardt@aol.com << I recently sold a very large modular Moog system and have found that the Virus cam replecate most the soounds of the Moog very well (with the exception of those using the fixed filter bank)..the key to heavy Moog bass Etc....>> Like I said before, I am not talking about a heavy bass sound, it is the overall tone of the Virus I was commenting on. I am not the only person who noticed upon listening to my Virus the first time after purchase that it sounds thinner than my analog equipment. Sure, you can mix in the sub-osc to make it heavier. Filtering normally takes away from raw waveforms, not adds to. Maybe with saturation (which just makes the sound more rasspy) you add something, but that is not a feature I even have on any of my analog stuff. It may be that the digital to analog process thins the sound, or perhaps the sound is crystal clear when in digital form, where as in analog the longer the sound chain, the more it is altered. After all, why have all digital synthesizers been considered thinner sounding than analog, when most have oscillators, filters, envelope generators, etc... just like the Virus. When people just gush over the Virus and its fat (or mispelled phat) sound, it only indicates that they don't own or have never used analog synths. What the Virus offers over those old analogs is multi-timbral operation and in most cases more voices. That is the reason I bought mine. I don't have to try to control stacks of analogs over midi, I can just plug in one Virus. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 14 22:53:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:52:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Phat * From: "Howard Scarr" >After all, why have all digital synthesizers been considered thinner sounding than analog, when most have oscillators, filters, envelope generators, etc... just like the Virus. Because they were a lot thinner-sounding. BTW: Most digital synths did not have the above "analog modules" - why do you think that? >When people just gush over the Virus and its fat (or mispelled phat) sound, it only indicates that they don't own or have never used analog synths. I bought my first synths in the early seventies - the first of many. There are some other "oldies" in this mailing list, too, and some younger people who also know their stuff, so it's not very reasonable to assume that anyone who raves about the Virus doesn't have any means of comparison. I reckon the Virus sound is well worth raving about... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 14 23:31:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Son, 14 Jun 98 23:32:50 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: nosferatu has no virus * From: Marc Schlaile hello there, just returned from the cinemas featuring nosferatu (a silent movie) with live performed ambience tuned by of kai niggemann and a (unknown) accordion player. cool performance, kai! unfortunatly he used no virus since, as he stated, he had non when the soundtrack was written. the reason why it's fairly easy to _forgive_ him is a rusian synthesizer he used i never saw before. this device looked so rude and vintage hightech (just imagine that consoles normally showed in movies when it comes to space centers etc.) that i seriously suggest a limited edition of the virus copying that design, not ;-) cheers, marc ................................................................... | production | arrangement | remix | sounddesign | music publisher | ................................................................... babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 09:00:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:53:24 -0800 Cc: Goeff Farr Subject: Re: Big fun etc.Virus /analogue * From: Doug Masla >* From: Elhardt@aol.com > ><< I recently sold a very large modular Moog system and have found that the Virus cam replecate most the soounds of the Moog very well (with the exception of those using the fixed filter bank)..the key to heavy Moog bass Etc....>> > >Like I said before, I am not talking about a heavy bass sound, it is the overall tone of the Virus I was commenting on. I am not the only person who noticed upon listening to my Virus the first time after purchase that it sounds thinner than my analog equipment. Sure, you can mix in the sub-osc to make it heavier. Filtering normally takes away from raw waveforms, not adds to. Maybe with saturation (which just makes the sound more rasspy) you add something, but that is not a feature I even have on any of my analog stuff. It may be that the digital to analog process thins the sound, or perhaps the sound is crystal clear when in digital form, where as in analog the longer the sound chain, the more it is altered. After all, why have all digital synthesizers been considered thinner sounding than analog, when most have oscillators, filters, envelope generators, etc... just like the Virus. When people just gush over the Virus and its fat (or mispelled phat) sound, it only indicates that they don't own or have never used analog synths. What the Virus offers over those old analogs is multi-timbral operation and in most cases more voices. That is the reason I bought mine. I don't have to try to control stacks of analogs over midi, I can just plug in one Virus. > >-Elhardt >E- You are correct the saturation on the Virus is to make up for the distirtion curves found in Moog/analogue vca's and filters....as far as more raspy that is dependant upon the Fc settings and filter mode as well as waveform from the DCO's.... There is no doubt that the Virus is a dig. synth,but by my ears it gets closer to a analogue in sound than any other "VIRTUAL"ana. synth on the market today. I used the bass as an example but I have gotten very good melodic and pad timbres that otherwise I would have used my Memory moog or Voyetra-8 for(or many other analoge synths in my studio). >Maybe with saturation (which just makes the sound more rasspy) you add >>something, but that is not a feature I even have on any of my analog stuff. It may be that the digital to analog process thins the sound, or perhaps the sound is crystal clear when in digital form, where as in analog<< MOOG/ARP AND OTHER ANALOGUE SYTHS HAVE VARIABLE DISTIRTION CURVES in thier Filters and vca's depnding in the make/model the distortion accures in different amonts depending on ie:ARP2600 the osc. level in the mixer adds distortion when vco levels are above (80% varies from arp to arp) as well as in the VCA whrn the audio in (exponential curve) is above 75% +/-.....also the Classic Moog sound is from vca distortion ans well as the symetry of the waveforms of the vco's is imperfect where in a digital synth they are mathamaticle models that lean twards proper symetry............ >After all, why have all digital >>synthesizers been considered thinner sounding than analog, when most have oscillators, filters, envelope generators, etc... just like the Virus<< Digitals synths have a cpu running a program to EMULATE the functions of an ANALOGUE synth.....where analogue synths have seporate circits(sp)(eihter discreete for ic[CEM] for vco/vcf/vca/adsr........... Cheers Doug M. ect..... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 15 15:38:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:41:35 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Crashes * From: "Paulo Abreu" Well, About the parapeeks (that are driving me crazy) I have never found any common thing about the several crashes but...That is true I always use the Virus in Snap mode, I will try the jump... > >It seems that a workaround exists for the time being, access told me these errors seem to only occur when in Snap mode. Please try to set your Virus Knobs to Jump and see if the problem persists. > >A bugfixing version is on its way. Or so I was told yesterday. Magnificent!!! Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 02:52:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:51:27 EDT Subject: Re: Fat * From: Elhardt@aol.com >>>After all, why have all digital synthesizers been considered thinner sounding than analog, when most have oscillators, filters, envelope generators, etc... just like the Virus. <> If digital synths don't have the above modules, then how do you explain the DCOs, Low Pass Filters, Envelope Generators, Low Frequency Oscillators, ( even "analog feel" oscillator drift function ) found in my digital synths ? How else are you going to generate and modify sounds without these "modules". My Roland D-50, Roland JV-880, Kawai5000S, and even my Emulator 4 have most or all of the above. Why should an unfiltered sawtooth wave, sound any different on a digital than an analog anyway ? Since the Virus IS a digital synthesizer, maybe there is something in the digital process that gives the impression of a thinner sound. By the way, digital synths are not "a lot" thinner sounding then analog. In fact when the Yamaha DX7 came out, there was one guy who was creating big thick analog type sounds trying disprove that myth. I don't know what kind of sound system you are playing through either, but if it is one of those low fidelity horn type loud speakers, you might be getting the impression of a thicker sound. Also, here is what the reviewer said of the Virus in "Sound On Sound" magazine: "The bass and lead sounds I was able to create seemed to lack a certain warmth and fullness...". Although he did go on to praise almost everything else about the Virus. <> I too started buying synths in the seventies, and still have them all. But if the Virus duplicates the sounds of instruments that have been around for 30 years, then what makes the Virus sound so super great and unique ? Half the people on this mailing list who buy one act as if they never heard analog sounds before. There are others who want to buy preprogrammed presets. "people who know their stuff" ? Come on. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 05:35:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:34:19 EDT Subject: Re: Digital vs Analog (was Re:Fat) * From: Elhardt@aol.com <<>> Actually I should have worded the question; why should a sawtooth waveform sound THINNER on a digital than an analog ? I know there are differences in sound among different sawtooth waves, as my JV-880 lets me choose between about three different types of sawtooth wave sounds. This was a question not so much to be answered, but rather to emphasize the point that the Virus is digital and therefore will sound different and probably thinner than an analog synth by that very fact. However, this conversation starting out about the Virus sounding thinner overall, than say a Moog, has gone far off track and into splitting hairs like the difference in sound of sawtooth waves. Not my intention. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 04:38:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: gatrall@pop2.slip.net Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:43:25 -0800 Subject: Re: Digital vs Analog (was Re:Fat) * From: Simon Gatrall >* From: Elhardt@aol.com >Why should an unfiltered sawtooth wave, sound any different on a digital than an analog anyway ? Because no two synths "sawtooth" wave are the same. At a very basic level analog and digital "sawtooth" waves are often quite different, and at the extremes of audiophile purity the same source through different wires going through the same output stage will sound different. It's pretty easy to convince yourself of the former - just hook up a couple synths to an oscilliscope - they won't be exactly the same. Analog waves usually have more "rounded off" corners. Analog sawtooth waves often are not symetric. On my OB*Mx there is even a DC offset on one of the voices (no this is not a feature - I need to get it fixed). In general the "sawtooth" waves of two synths will sound basically alike as will the "square" waves - but if you listen carefully (and sometimes, not so carefully) they will have differences. None of this should imply that digital is better/worse than analog. I own both because of how the synths sound. -s!mon -s!mon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 12:53:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 03:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Digital vs Analog (was Re:Fat) * From: Tim Anderson Actually, part of the reason lies in the fact that most digital synths use samples. When a synth uses samples, unless it has a sample per step, which I know of none that do that for a sawtooth wave, you are actually transposing that sample by timestreching which does affect the quality and character of the song. The other thing to take into account is that this affects monophonic sounds when portamento is involved, because it actually has to jump from one sample to another when played which causes "clicks". Before you had also mentioned that your analog synths dont use saturation. What you do not understand is on the routing of some of the older synths the filters just are overdriven all the time, which is why if you are not using any saturation you will not be able to get an accurate emulation if that is what you are after, and also why they will not sound as "fat". The different types of "sawtooth" waves your JV-1080 offers you are not different samples at all. Merely the same samples with different "transposition" points giving the sound a different quality. Other more advanced synths such as the K2000 allow you to do this yourself, and choose how the samples are transposed, where the JV-1080 does not. A more "obvious" example of what this does to the sound is in stringed sounds. It gives the sound a "darker" feel. If I recall correctly from my friend who owned an XP-50 there was a patch called Somber Strings where this was employed. You must remember, the virus does NOT use samples. There in lies a major difference. >* From: Elhardt@aol.com > >an analog anyway ?> > ><<analog and digital "sawtooth" waves are often quite different, and at the >extremes of audiophile purity the same source through different wires going >through the same output stage will sound different.>>> > >Actually I should have worded the question; why should a sawtooth waveform >sound THINNER on a digital than an analog ? I know there are differences in >sound among different sawtooth waves, as my JV-880 lets me choose between >about three different types of sawtooth wave sounds. This was a question not >so much to be answered, but rather to emphasize the point that the Virus is >digital and therefore will sound different and probably thinner than an analog >synth by that very fact. However, this conversation starting out about the >Virus sounding thinner overall, than say a Moog, has gone far off track and >into splitting hairs like the difference in sound of sawtooth waves. Not my >intention. > >-Elhardt _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 17:19:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:18:21 +0200 Subject: Selling my Virus * From: Junger Joerg EN36 Hi List, if anyone in Europe is interested in acquiring my Virus, please feel invited to send me a mail. Thank you >Joerg ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 17:45:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:41:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: midi question * From: "NightGoat" I am ready to buy a midi connector for my PC(I know I've said this before...but this time I mean it). I am going to be using Cubase VST to do some midi sequencing. Also I am using this to update my Virus(finally). My question is: between the MOTU PC Midi Flyer and the Steinberg PC Midi 3, which one should I get? Will they both work fine for upgrading my Virus? I'm hoping to order one today so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 19:58:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:57:15 EDT Subject: Steinberg Weirdness * From: WYDMusic@aol.com Hi list! I've had my Virus for a month now and it is insistantly the centerpiece of my studio. I'm using Cubase VST and i've noticed some pretty strange problems. Please note that i'm using a Pentium 200, 96 megs ram, MOTU Midi Xpress PC interface; Virus O.S. V1.51. First, does anyone know of a mixermap for VST? Second, at certain completely uniform times, Virus decides to change patches on me for no particular reason. I do not have the patches mapped in Cubase and there should be no reason for this happening. Third, I have everything set properly for the Virus to follow in sync (arpeggiator, etc.), however every now and then at random times it pops slightly (couple hundred milliseconds) out of sync and then back in. Fourth, has anyone successfully upgraded the O.S. from VST? I am a little afraid given that Cubase is so buggy and unreliable. Thanx in advance for your guru-ige! Darren Kramer Los Angeles ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 20:03:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:04:06 +0200 Subject: Re: Selling my Virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:18 PM +0200 on 16.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Junger Joerg EN36 > > >Hi List, > >if anyone in Europe is interested in acquiring my Virus, please feel invited to send me a mail. > >Thank you > >>Joerg Of course I would be very curious as to why you are selling it too. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 20:34:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:30:13 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Fat * From: "Howard Scarr" >Why should an unfiltered sawtooth wave, sound any different on a digital than an analog anyway ? Since the Virus IS a digital synthesizer, maybe there is something in the digital process that gives the impression of a thinner sound. By the way, digital synths are not "a lot" thinner sounding then analog. In fact when the Yamaha DX7 came out, there was one guy who was creating big thick analog type sounds trying disprove that myth. My all-time favorite keyboard-synth is the DX7 II (still use it live because it's so dynamic) - but I wouldn't say the DX7 has a warm sound. And digital oscillators are often simply read out from value tables. BTW: The best example that springs to mind is the dramatic difference between Polysix and Poly 61. >I don't know what kind of sound system you are playing through either, but if it is one of those low fidelity horn type loud speakers, you might be getting the impression of a thicker sound Various. But I'm not a horn fan either (no pun intended!) >Also, here is what the reviewer said of the Virus in "Sound On Sound" magazine: "The bass and lead sounds I was able to create seemed to lack a certain warmth and fullness...". I don't give reviews much credence. I let my ears and hands (and sometimes my wallet!) decide. >if the Virus duplicates the sounds of instruments that have been around for 30 years, then what makes the Virus sound so super great and unique ? That it can duplicate the sounds and feel of these instruments - together with good MIDI spec, and available to everyone at a reasonable price... >>There are some other "oldies" in this mailing list, too, and some younger people who also know their stuff, so it's not very reasonable to assume that anyone who raves about the Virus doesn't have any means of comparison. >Half the people on this mailing list who buy one act as if they never heard analog sounds before. There are others who want to buy preprogrammed presets. "people who know their stuff" ? Come on. OK, try to be a bit more diplomatic. We should end this discussion here (flame-alert and off-topic-alert). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 21:56:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: jelo@eng.Trimble.COM Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:57:59 -0700 Organization: Trimble Navigation Subject: Re: Steinberg Weirdness * From: Jeff Elo >Fourth, has anyone successfully upgraded the O.S. from VST? I am a little afraid given that Cubase is so buggy and unreliable. I use Cubase VST and had no problem updating the OS. -Jeff Elo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 16 23:43:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:46:49 -0700 Subject: New Sequencer for PC * From: Michael Egar Hey, Does anyone have any ideas on new sequencer software using a PC and a Virus. I've been using cakewalk for the last few years but have always thought I should be using Cubase VST even though some people seem to be having some problems running the two of them. Does anyone now what the difference is between Cubase VST, Cubase VST 24 and Cubase score or any other ideas for a better sequencer? Ta very much, > Mike Egar ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 01:39:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:37:43 -0300 Subject: Re: Steinberg Weirdness * From: lorin access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: WYDMusic@aol.com > >Hi list! I've had my Virus for a month now and it is insistantly the centerpiece of my studio. I'm using Cubase VST and i've noticed some pretty strange problems. Please note that i'm using a Pentium 200, 96 megs ram, MOTU Midi Xpress PC interface; Virus O.S. V1.51. > >First, does anyone know of a mixermap for VST? > >Second, at certain completely uniform times, Virus decides to change patches on me for no particular reason. I do not have the patches mapped in Cubase and there should be no reason for this happening. > >Third, I have everything set properly for the Virus to follow in sync (arpeggiator, etc.), however every now and then at random times it pops slightly (couple hundred milliseconds) out of sync and then back in. > >Fourth, has anyone successfully upgraded the O.S. from VST? I am a little afraid given that Cubase is so buggy and unreliable. > >Thanx in advance for your guru-ige! > >Darren Kramer >Los Angeles >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Had some troubles. A direct midi connect without midi routers did the trick. Also slowed the BPM's down to 60. Pentium Pro 180. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 01:46:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:45:22 -0300 Subject: Re: New Sequencer for PC * From: lorin access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Michael Egar > >Hey, >Does anyone have any ideas on new sequencer software using a PC and a Virus. I've been using cakewalk for the last few years but have always thought I should be using Cubase VST even though some people seem to be having some problems running the two of them. Does anyone now what the difference is between Cubase VST, Cubase VST 24 and Cubase score or any other ideas for a better sequencer? > >Ta very much, > >>Mike Egar >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! VST rocks. Especially the plug-in digital filters ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 00:56:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:51:29 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Steinberg Weirdness * From: "Fabio Todeschini" >Fourth, has anyone successfully upgraded the O.S. from VST? I am a little afraid given that Cubase is so buggy and unreliable. I have also had trouble upgrading the OS so far. Unfortunately I only own an early version of "cakewalk apprentice" and i know for cetain that the upgrade won't work with that. So, I installed a demoversion of Cubase VST 3.5 (or similar version), after all, all i would have to do is play a midi file, the demoversion doesn't allow saving, but i thought that playback would be no trouble. At the beginning everything seems alright, the virus starts counting up the blocks. But then, no matter how low I set the speed (i even tried 30 bpm) it just stops counting at a random number (once 4, then 35 then 83...) without displaying an error message. Could the MIDI-card be the cause? (AWE32) and how high should the virus count? another independent question: suppose you flash the virus' ROM with erroneous data, can you repeat the "OS upload" or do you get it fixed? fabio -==============================- Fabio Todeschini: fabio.todeschini@usa.net fabio.todeschini@reflex.at (- third e-mail address (only use if no other address works): fabio.todeschini@blackbox.at) -==============================- ---------- >Von: access-list@teklab.com >An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Betreff: Steinberg Weirdness >Datum: Dienstag, 16. Juni 1998 07:57 > >* From: WYDMusic@aol.com > >Hi list! I've had my Virus for a month now and it is insistantly the centerpiece of my studio. I'm using Cubase VST and i've noticed some pretty >strange problems. Please note that i'm using a Pentium 200, 96 megs ram, MOTU Midi Xpress PC interface; Virus O.S. V1.51. > >First, does anyone know of a mixermap for VST? > >Second, at certain completely uniform times, Virus decides to change patches >on me for no particular reason. I do not have the patches mapped in Cubase >and there should be no reason for this happening. > >Third, I have everything set properly for the Virus to follow in sync (arpeggiator, etc.), however every now and then at random times it pops slightly (couple hundred milliseconds) out of sync and then back in. > >Fourth, has anyone successfully upgraded the O.S. from VST? I am a little afraid given that Cubase is so buggy and unreliable. > >Thanx in advance for your guru-ige! > > >Darren Kramer >Los Angeles >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > >--- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from tl36.teklab.com (207.215.53.36) by get.reflex.at (FirstClass Mail Server v5.1) transient id 21; 21:51:48 +0200 >Received: from tl36.teklab.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26604; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:01:41 -0700 From: access-list@teklab.com >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >Errors-To: access-list@teklab.com >To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Message-ID: <3586A502.BeroList-2.5.5@tl36.teklab.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:57:15 EDT >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Subject: Steinberg Weirdness ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 02:21:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:25:17 -0700 Subject: RE: Steinberg Weirdness * From: Michael Egar I've used cakewalk and an AWE32 and it didn't work at all. I just got demo of another sequencer, jazzware off the net and it worked fine with the soundcard. >---------- >From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 3:51 PM >To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Subject: Re: Steinberg Weirdness > >* From: "Fabio Todeschini" > >>Fourth, has anyone successfully upgraded the O.S. from VST? I am a little afraid given that Cubase is so buggy and unreliable. > >I have also had trouble upgrading the OS so far. Unfortunately I only own an early version of "cakewalk apprentice" and i know for cetain that the upgrade won't work with that. So, I installed a demoversion of Cubase VST 3.5 (or similar version), after all, all i would have to do is play a midi file, the demoversion doesn't allow saving, but i thought that playback would be no trouble. >At the beginning everything seems alright, the virus starts counting up the blocks. But then, no matter how low I set the speed (i even tried 30 bpm) it just stops counting at a random number (once 4, then 35 then 83...) without displaying an error message. Could the MIDI-card be the cause? (AWE32) and how high should the virus count? another independent question: suppose you flash the virus' ROM with erroneous data, can you repeat the "OS upload" or do you get it fixed? > >fabio >-==============================- >Fabio Todeschini: >fabio.todeschini@usa.net >fabio.todeschini@reflex.at > >(- third e-mail address (only use if no other address works): >fabio.todeschini@blackbox.at) >-==============================- > >---------- >>Von: access-list@teklab.com >>An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >>Betreff: Steinberg Weirdness >>Datum: Dienstag, 16. Juni 1998 07:57 >> >>* From: WYDMusic@aol.com >> >>Hi list! I've had my Virus for a month now and it is insistantly the centerpiece of my studio. I'm using Cubase VST and i've noticed some pretty >>strange problems. Please note that i'm using a Pentium 200, 96 megs ram, MOTU Midi Xpress PC interface; Virus O.S. V1.51. >> >>First, does anyone know of a mixermap for VST? >> >>Second, at certain completely uniform times, Virus decides to change patches >>on me for no particular reason. I do not have the patches mapped in >Cubase >>and there should be no reason for this happening. >> >>Third, I have everything set properly for the Virus to follow in sync (arpeggiator, etc.), however every now and then at random times it pops slightly (couple hundred milliseconds) out of sync and then back in. >> >>Fourth, has anyone successfully upgraded the O.S. from VST? I am a little afraid given that Cubase is so buggy and unreliable. >> >>Thanx in advance for your guru-ige! >> >> >>Darren Kramer >>Los Angeles >>********** >********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and > >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> >> >>--- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from tl36.teklab.com (207.215.53.36) by get.reflex.at (FirstClass Mail Server v5.1) transient id 21; 21:51:48 +0200 >>Received: from tl36.teklab.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26604; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:01:41 -0700 From: access-list@teklab.com >>Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >>Errors-To: access-list@teklab.com >>To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >>Message-ID: <3586A502.BeroList-2.5.5@tl36.teklab.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:57:15 EDT >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Subject: Steinberg Weirdness >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 08:57:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Cc: melvins1@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:50:50 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: midi question * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< >question is: between the MOTU PC Midi Flyer and the Steinberg PC Midi 3, I always recommend PC MIDI 1/4, made by EES, a german company. Dont know about worldwide distribution, but here it is around 200DM (110$) and gives 1 In and 4 individual Outs, connected to parallel port... With greetings, Sascha... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 09:01:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:55:33 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: New Guy * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< After two month waiting I finally got my virus last week... Great thing... I love it... worth waiting... Now I can sell my Matrix1000, MB33 and Poly800 crap.. he got them all... Im not sure about my juno106 :) With greetings from Germany Sascha Kujawa - - - Btw, I am working for Emagic Germany, so in case of any Logic<->Virus related questions I could try my best... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 09:35:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:35:14 +0200 Subject: AW: Selling my Virus * From: Junger Joerg EN36 Hi Canine/List, simply because I go for a Nord Modular and can't afford to have both synths. Regards Joerg >---------- >Von: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Juni 1998 20:04 An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Betreff: Re: Selling my Virus > >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 5:18 PM +0200 on 16.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>* From: Junger Joerg EN36 >> >> >>Hi List, >> >>if anyone in Europe is interested in acquiring my Virus, please feel invited to send me a mail. >> >>Thank you >> >>>Joerg > > >Of course I would be very curious as to why you are selling it too. > > >think different! > >Canine > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 16:04:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:05:23 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Re: AW: Selling my Virus * From: Dimitri Sijperda >simply because I go for a Nord Modular and can't afford to have both synths. Hi! I decided not to buy the nord modular 2. I worked with both the virus and the nm2, and came to the conclusion that the knobs on the nm2 can have a different function each time you change a programm. And thatīs not handy with live performances. But i guess the nm2 has a lot of cool things too. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dimitri Sijperda member of the Institute of Education in Medical Information Science Student Medical Information Science Kamer J0-020, AMC Meibergdreef 15 1105 AZ Amsterdam ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 19:33:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:24:58 +0200 Subject: Re: New Sequencer for PC * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:46 PM +0200 on 16.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas on new sequencer software using a PC and a Virus. I've been using cakewalk for the last few years but have always thought I should be using Cubase VST even though some people seem to be Have you ever thought of using a hardware sequencer? I don't know much about them, But I am sort of looking into the topic because I want to get one for live uses. Any opinions? Experiences? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 19:44:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:44:26 -0700 Subject: Re: New Sequencer for PC * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Have you ever thought of using a hardware sequencer? I don't know much about them, But I am sort of looking into the topic because I want to get one for live uses. >Any opinions? Experiences? Well, if you've had any experience on any of the other teklab lists, you'll know that I'm a QY700 evangelist. I love this sequencer, it is quite simply the most useful music-writing tool I've seen, and I've spent over $3000 in the last 10 years on PC-based sequencers. Have a look around the different Yamaha web sites for info on the QY700 -- also see if you can find the QY700 Quick Guide (HTML format) on Yamaha UK, that'll give you a good feel for how the QY700 really works. BTW, works great with my Virus. All those knob messages get slurped up by the QY700... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. [entering the state of 8008 ...] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jun 17 21:53:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:52:08 EDT Subject: Horrible Problem...help! * From: WYDMusic@aol.com Ok, now this is really screwy! I'm scared! There are certain parameters which all of a sudden will not respond to any change whatsoever. They appear to be random...LFO clock speed, patch # in multi mode and a host of others, but obviously I can't really work with an instrument in which 50 parameters do not work. Has anyone had this problem? Solution? I am using 1.51 HELLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPP!!!!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 03:39:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:04:18 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: New Sequencer for PC * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:24:58 +0200, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Have you ever thought of using a hardware sequencer? I don't know much about them, But I am sort of looking into the topic because I want to get one for live uses. > >Any opinions? Experiences? That was the main reason I bought the Nord Modular - its sequencers. Ask me offlist for more info if you want it. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 16:19:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:52:06 -0400 Subject: Re: New Sequencer for PC * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: New Sequencer for PC Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 6/16/98 2:46 PM * From: Michael Egar Hey, Does anyone have any ideas on new sequencer software using a PC and a Virus. I've been using cakewalk for the last few years but have always thought I should be using Cubase VST even though some people seem to be having some problems running the two of them. Does anyone now what the difference is between Cubase VST, Cubase VST 24 and Cubase score or any other ideas for a better sequencer? I'm using the old cubase 2.8 and it works just fine.... Do not Touch Me and Wait: Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 11:56:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:10:28 +0200 X-Sender: di-mi@mail.dds.nl Subject: Vocoder-like effect * From: Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Did you know that you can create vocoder-like effects with the virus? -attach a mic to external input -set external input to static (not dynamic/off) and boost it to maximum. -no oscillator 1 or 2 sound, but total osc. volume on. (loud is better) -both filters e.g. hi pass, no resonance, loweft cotoff freq. -chorus effect send to 127, delay very small, and no chorus depth (you get a constant short delay), and a lot of feedback, e.g. 127 -if it doen's work: turn main volume on and say "Robot" through the mic. (or something else) :p ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 12:35:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:08:49 +0200 Subject: Re: Horrible Problem...help! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:52 PM +0200 on 17.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Solution? I am using 1.51 If you are experiencing problems with a particular software (in gerneral) it's usually a good idea to upgrade to the latest version. In this case it's version 1.53 which can be found at the TSi site or at my site (address is in the signature). hope that helps. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 12:31:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 12:34:03 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Horrible Problem...help! * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: WYDMusic@aol.com > >Ok, now this is really screwy! I'm scared! There are certain parameters which all of a sudden will not respond to any change whatsoever. They appear to be random...LFO clock speed, patch # in multi mode and a host of others, but obviously I can't really work with an instrument in which 50 parameters do >not work. Has anyone had this problem? Solution? I am using 1.51 > Hello, does this only happen on sound bank B or also on sounds of bank A?. Sorry, I think I canīt help you so far but a few of us are watching a phenomenon regarding bank B sound losses. With regards Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 14:30:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:24:26 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Factory Sounds (V1.53) * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< During development of my Sounddiver-Virus-Adaption I lost some of the factory presets... Unfortunately, the factory set I found on Canine's site are different from mine (I think because I have OS1.53?) So, anyone dumped the 1.53 factory set? With greetings, Sascha... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 14:41:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:42:46 +0200 Subject: Re: Factory Sounds (V1.53) * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:24 PM +0200 on 18.06.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Unfortunately, the factory set I found on Canine's site are different from mine (I think because I have OS1.53?) You can just reload the factory sounds by pressing both LFO shape buttns simultanously, the n switch on the virus. keep them pressed until the virus asks you if you want to reload the factories. answer yes. This also resets the Virus to factory settings, so you have to set it back to snap mode and stuff like that if you need to. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 16:28:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 16:31:26 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Factory Sounds (V1.53) * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) > >>heya< > >During development of my Sounddiver-Virus-Adaption I lost some of the factory presets... > >Unfortunately, the factory set I found on Canine's site are different from mine (I think because I have OS1.53?) > >So, anyone dumped the 1.53 factory set? Hello Sascha, sure, but if you press both the LFO 1+2 shape buttons while switching the power on of the virus youīll be asked if you want to get the factory sounds back! Donīt forget to save your modified sounds before trying this ;-) Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 16:40:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:42:32 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: New Sequencer for PC * From: "Onno huizer" If You want to do live sequencing then get a MPC2000 from akai. This baby rules check out the specs at the akai site. The chemical brothers also use a hardware sequencer and that is the mpc3000 with a budget in mind i would check these two and compare them well. Maybe because the mpc2000 is newer the options on this baby will be a little more elaborate. If you have a MPC3000 and you want to covert your samples to say a s3000 then a mpc2000 is the awnser.That's the old s3000 not the new s3000xl. ---------- >Van: access-list@teklab.com >Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Onderwerp: Re: New Sequencer for PC >Datum: woensdag 17 juni 1998 23:04 > >* From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) > >On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:24:58 +0200, access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >>Have you ever thought of using a hardware sequencer? I don't know much about them, But I am sort of looking into the topic because I want to get >>one for live uses. >> >>Any opinions? Experiences? >That was the main reason I bought the Nord Modular - its sequencers. > >Ask me offlist for more info if you want it. > >Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- >www.softroom.demon.co.uk > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 16:51:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:53:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: New Sequencer for PC * From: "Onno huizer" I would like to know when the beta testing period of the virus will end.What is the date that ACCESS have in mind to call their OS 2.0 the so called final OS release.I heard something about OS 2.0 being the final one. We've been stuck at OS1.53 for sometime now and i still think it's as buggy as 1.51 Is there anybody out there that is thinking maybe a Nordlead. It's got 3 of the Virus's CPU's inside.Worst of all it still has got wacky filters. The still go step...step...step...step..step.There not smooth at all compared to the modular. This one thing is the only reason for me for not to sell my buggy red baby. Hear it screaming and you might say .....don't ever grow up.Until dady sequencer says: Son go to school you've got to learn MIDI. This concludes my story hoping that we will start ACTIVE WORK in getting our babies to read/write and speak fluent MIDI without the GAGA bullshit it sometimes said in the past. Onno Huizer......Thanx K9 for the support through this list ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 19:59:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:54:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Vocoder-like effect * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Did you know that you can create vocoder-like effects with the virus? -attach a mic to external input >-set external input to static (not dynamic/off) and boost it to maximum. -no oscillator 1 or 2 sound, but total osc. volume on. (loud is better) -both filters e.g. hi pass, no resonance, loweft cotoff freq. -chorus effect send to 127, delay very small, and no chorus depth (you get a constant short delay), and a lot of feedback, e.g. 127 -if it doen's work: turn main volume on and say "Robot" through the mic. (or something else) :p Excellent! Sounds good to me... not entirely vocoder-standard, but that's a good thing, really... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. [entering the state of 8008 ...] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 19 03:03:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:04:49 +0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Subject: "unsubscribe" * From: Neumark Please unsubscribe me from your list. Thank you. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 18 21:32:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:17:23 +0200 Organization: Alchemy Recordings Subject: New Email Address This is a software forwarded form letter Warner Poland (Tryst/Alchemy Recordings Berlin/V-Berlin Drum'n'Bass Lounge) has new Email & URLs warner@alchemy.de http://www.alchemy.de http://www.tryst.de http://www.v-berlin.deX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 19 09:28:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Cc: brainray@real-net.de Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:21:30 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: Factory Sounds (V1.53) * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >heya< Hy Ray... >sure, but if you press both the LFO 1+2 shape buttons while switching the power on of the virus youīll be asked if you want to get the factory sounds back! Donīt forget to save your modified sounds before trying this ;-) That's what I tried to avoid... but I gonna do... Just been looking for a dumped factory set to load into a SD library and select what I need without re-setting the baby... Anyway... thank you all for the hint... Byeee...Sascha... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 19 09:31:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:25:06 GMT Organization: Emagic GmbH Subject: Re: Vocoder-like effect * From: skujawa@mail.emagic.de (Sascha Kujawa) >hey< >>and a lot of feedback, e.g. 127 >Excellent! Sounds good to me... not entirely vocoder-standard, but that's a good thing, really... That's how I treat the DSP Chorus within Logic Audio... Resonance between 90-96%... wouwou! But I forgot to try it with my virus... Byeee...Sascha... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 19 15:14:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:47:50 +0200 Subject: 1.54 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" hi list, let me just tell you that 1.54 is coming early next week. besides fixing the parapeek bug it will contain three new features: .chorus feedback will be bipolar so you can set it to negative feedback. (existing sounds will automatically be converted and will not sound different) .new paramter for the LedMode: Lfo, ExtIn, and (new) Auto. Auto switches from lfo to ExtIn when it detects an external signal. .in multis: a "priority normal/high" parameter that can be used to give certain voices a higher priority to prevent any note stealing from them the included read me will contain more infos on these parameters. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 19 18:53:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:51:08 -0700 Subject: Re: 1.54 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 02:47 PM 6/19/98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >hi list, > >let me just tell you that 1.54 is coming early next week. besides fixing the parapeek bug it will contain three new features: > Excellent! Man, the Access Virus is the best supported piece of gear I own! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. [entering the state of 8008 ...] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 20 00:14:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:13:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: 1.54 * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >>let me just tell you that 1.54 is coming early next week. besides fixing the parapeek bug it will contain three new features: >> > >Excellent! Man, the Access Virus is the best supported piece of gear I own! It's great to see the upgrades! Thanks Access. (and they're free too, unlike some other 'OS2.0' upgrade :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jun 20 00:24:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:26:16 -0700 Subject: RE: 1.54 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >It's great to see the upgrades! Thanks Access. (and they're free too, unlike some other 'OS2.0' upgrade :-)) > Oh god, please don't let that bleed over here... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. [entering the state of 8008 ...] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 21 23:55:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:51:28 EDT Subject: Re: Horrible Problem...help! * From: WYDMusic@aol.com I will try it, but will this screw up my custom patches? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jun 21 23:58:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:57:57 EDT Subject: Re: 1.54 * From: WYDMusic@aol.com Will you be able to upgrade directly from 1.51, or do you have to upgrade to 1.53 first? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 22 07:52:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:56:58 -0700 From: access-list@teklab.com To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Sending mail to this list You may send mail to access-list@tl36.teklab.com only if you are subscribed to the list. To subscribe, send a message to access-list@tl36.teklab.com with the Subject set to 'subscribe'. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 22 14:06:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:10:53 -0700 From: access-list@teklab.com To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Welcome to the Access Synth Discussion list! FIRST - A Very Important Message: A FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions document) exists for this mailing list. Anyone who even pretends to know anything about the Internet knows that you should read any FAQ you can find on any particular subject, so we've got one just for us Access Synth (Virus, etc) people! You *must* read this FAQ to see if your questions have already been answered. It is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ and you should *definitely check it out*! You're very welcome on the list, you are very important and we all hope to learn a lot from you in exchange for any help you might need, but: READ THE FAQ FIRST PLEASE! You'd be surprised how well written and poetic it is - we think it's going to win a Pullitzer this year, it's that damned good! However, if you've read the FAQ and still not gotten an answer, it'd be great to let us know where in the FAQ we're delinquent, so we can fix it for future generations of new list members. We're very friendly on this list, you know! Okay, now, a few other things: If you should ever wish to get off the Access Syth Discussion list, send a message to access-list@teklab.com, with "unsubscribe" in the Subject header. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Keep these instructions! To send a message to the list, simply address it to access-list@teklab.com - our mail software will take care of the rest. You *do* need to be a list member in order to post messages -- thus preventing spam. Anything sent to the access-list@teklab.com address by a non list member gets sent to the list owner for immediate trashing. The access-list here at teklab.com has been set up to provide interested parties with a general mail forum for the discussion of the new Access Virus Synthesizer and anything else that Access may be producing in the near future in the way of synthesizers, audio processors, etc. Info about the Access Virus can be obtained from the following URL's: http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access/virus.html Posts considered on-topic would be any general message related to the Access Virus, and/or any similar products including those released and to be released by Access, other companies, etc. Please remember that this list contains members at both ends of the 'technical competence' scale, and therefore don't be surprised if you see a) very detailed technical posts and/or b) absolutely no responses to your post about extremely esoteric technical issues. The purpose of this list is to learn, and to assist other Virus users. It is not the purpose of the list to sell WonderSpam products or advertise your kid sisters new XXX web site. We don't take kindly to that sort of thing here at TekLab. Official Stuff - please read carefully: --------------------------------------- This list is in no way officially supported, affiliated, controlled or monitored by Access Music Electronics or any of it's subsidiaries, and *all* content generated by this list remains the property of TekLab. Your name, address, general information posted to the list, etc. will *not* be provided to any 3rd party for the purposes of spam, marketing research or any similar activity, by any member of TekLab. We will do our best to ensure that this list remains an open, freely accessible and easy to use service, as we feel this is a good way for us to learn more about the equipment we like to use here at TekLab, and the existence of this list benefits the general Internet community as a whole. All that being said, it is important that you understand that your membership and participation in this list is considered valuable to the extent that it contributes to the subject of the list. Any list member who posts spam messages that have *nothing* to do with the Access Virus or similar products, or who posts intentionally inflammatory messages (flame-baiting) will be removed from the list at the sole discretion of the list owner. Who is the List Owner? ---------------------- Please forward any list related comments, queries about TekLab operations, etc. to the access-list owner: Jay Vaughan jv@teklab.com (NOTE: Currently *testing* the list, please warned that there may be changes in the future to how this list functions. I apologize in advance for any problems the test of this list may generate, and your help in getting this list functioning is greatly appreciated.) Thanks for reading this far, and please enjoy! List Administrator TekLab ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 23 08:14:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:14:30 -0700 Subject: Problems with the Virus Mailing List * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Okay, I'm afraid to report that TekLab suffered a major disk crash this evening, and lost all of it's list subscribers. We've restored the Access Virus mailing list from the last backup that was done on April 1 1998 -- which means that some of you will have been RE-SUBSCRIBED to the access-list, if you've unsubscribed since then. And it also means that some subscribers that added themselves to the list since then have been lost forever -- if you know of any friends that might have subscribed since then, please let them know that the access-list is back up and running and that they should re-subscribe if they want to. Sorry about the problems, folks, really. I truly regret that we don't have a more recent backup available -- I've taken steps to get the Access Virus mailing list included in the nightly system critical backups that occur, so it hopefully won't happen again... We now return you to your (As of April 1st) Access Virus Mailing List... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. [entering the state of 8008 ...] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 23 08:21:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:21:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Problems with the Virus Mailing List * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 07:25 AM 6/23/98 +0100, you wrote: >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >yes, these technical problems - a bore... Yep. Definitely a pain. Anyway, looks like it's all working fine now... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. [entering the state of 8008 ...] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 23 08:19:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:25:29 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Problems with the Virus Mailing List * From: Guenther Albrecht yes, these technical problems - a bore... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 25 02:04:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:01:59 +0000 Subject: SD/Mac Virus Adaptation * From: Rich Mergner I heard mention on this list of a Sounddiver/mac Virus adaption. Is there one available? thanks, Rich Mergner ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 25 02:04:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:01:59 +0000 Subject: SD/Mac Virus Adaptation * From: Rich Mergner I heard mention on this list of a Sounddiver/mac Virus adaption. Is there one available? thanks, Rich Mergner ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 25 20:16:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:51:00 -0700 Cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sounds * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Wow, I've been calling my XT "Das Knobulator" for months now (in a ridiculous Arnold Schwarzenegger accent, if you must know). I have all my musical partners doing it, too. > No shit?! I've been calling my Virus "Sir Knobulator" for weeks too!!! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jun 25 20:16:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:51:00 -0700 Cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sounds * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Wow, I've been calling my XT "Das Knobulator" for months now (in a ridiculous Arnold Schwarzenegger accent, if you must know). I have all my musical partners doing it, too. > No shit?! I've been calling my Virus "Sir Knobulator" for weeks too!!! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 18:01:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 25 Jun 1998 22:28:00 +0200 Subject: Parapeek-Error! * From: Skwit@le-line.net (Christian Wiesner) Hi! I m the new one ;) ! Does anyone know something about a "Parapeek Error!"? I use the Virus and Impulse Tracker and when I switch fastly through some Programs in Multi- Single Mode the Virus sometimes hangs himself up and shows this "Parapeek Error". Bye, Chrissi ICQ 9065349 ..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? ## CrossPoint v3.11 R ## ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 12:43:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:47:00 -0700 To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: List unsubscription You must be list operator in order to unsubscribe users. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 13:04:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:02:07 +0200 Subject: 1.54 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hello peoples, 1.54 is now present on the website! enjoy! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 15:00:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:59:25 +0200 Organization: Sinlyncxhyl-Studios Subject: 1.54! wow! there it is! os 1.54! yep i like it! KanouX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 18:30:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:29:35 +0200 Organization: Sinlyncxhyl-Studios Subject: sf4d? * From: Kanou heya, is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? that would be realy great! thanx, Kanou ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 18:55:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:53:20 +0200 Subject: Re: Parapeek-Error! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:28 PM +0200 on 25.06.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >Does anyone know something about a "Parapeek Error!"? I use the Virus and Impulse Tracker and when I switch fastly through some Programs in Multi- Single Mode the Virus sometimes hangs himself up and shows this "Parapeek Error". Yes, it's *the* error that's fixed in 1.54. Please download it from the website. (http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus) > >Bye, Chrissi ICQ 9065349 > >..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? make plans to take over the world, Pinky! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 18:55:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:54:17 +0200 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:29 PM +0200 on 26.06.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? I hope not, because that would be piracy, wouldn't it? so please don't be stupid and ask people to do illegal things on this list. Pirates have no rights. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 19:19:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:22:01 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: sf4d? * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Kanou > >heya, > >is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? > >that would be realy great! Hahahaha, euh thats illegal you know :-) If I would send a copy everybody knows I have an illegal copy. (assuming I have a copy of course) Search the internet with a FTP search program....it's there. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jun 26 20:01:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:55:33 -0700 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? >that would be realy great! > No. And anyone that continues the warez thread gets unsubscribed. No warez trading, or discussion of warez, allowed on teklab mailing lists... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 18:02:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 27 Jun 1998 07:41:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Parapeek-Error! * From: Skwit@le-line.net (Christian Wiesner) >>Does anyone know something about a "Parapeek Error!"? I use the Virus and Impulse Tracker and when I switch fastly through some Programs in Multi- Single Mode the Virus sometimes hangs himself up and shows this "Parapeek Error". >Yes, it's *the* error that's fixed in 1.54. Please download it from the website. (http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus) There s already 1.54? A weeg ago came a disk from access with 1.53 ;) Which program do you use for transmitting the MIDI-File? I had to install Cubasis Audio (came with my soundcard), why doesn t it work with my Atari and Notator? Even not with 30 BPM! >>..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? >make plans to take over the world, Pinky! ;))) I ve got a nice ASCII about that, but I don t want do send it to the whole group. Everybody who wrote me that "make plans..."-thing got that ASCII... Bye, Chrissi ICQ 9065349 ..was wollen wir heute abend machen, Brain? ## CrossPoint v3.11 R ## ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 00:07:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:02:46 -0700 Subject: Virus OS1.54 upgrade -- smooth and silky! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Hi All, I did my OS1.54 upgrade last night, and it was smooth and problem-free -- and I can confirm that the Parapeek bug has disappeared... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 09:21:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:25:45 +0200 Subject: Can someone convince me ? * From: Peter Govaers Hi list, I'm new here (although some members already know me - hi Jay!) and don't have the Virus yet ;-) I'm pretty impressed with the specs of the Virus, haven't heard it yet (still waiting for my dealer to have one) but I'm kinda confused : should I go for the Nord Modular or the Virus ? I'm want a (virtual) analog to complement my setup. I want it for classic analog sounds (booming basses, pads, ...) and to experiment with and make strange noises and stuff. I know the Modular is more expensive and I'm not sure I'm gonna like the PC way of working with it but it seems to me it has more possibilities. Could someone convince me in either way with some reasonable arguments - don't just say "Clavia sux" please. P ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 16:51:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:52:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus OS1.54 upgrade -- smooth and silky! * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Hi All, > >I did my OS1.54 upgrade last night, and it was smooth and problem-free -- and I can confirm that the Parapeek bug has disappeared... > >j. What's the Parapeek bug? Do you know how to save Multi's and send them back? I have galaxy... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 16:59:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:00:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Peter Govaers > >Hi list, > >I'm new here (although some members already know me - hi Jay!) and don't have the Virus yet ;-) > >I'm pretty impressed with the specs of the Virus, haven't heard it yet (still waiting for my dealer to have one) but I'm kinda confused : should I go for the Nord Modular or the Virus ? > >I'm want a (virtual) analog to complement my setup. I want it for classic analog sounds (booming basses, pads, ...) and to experiment with and make strange noises and stuff. > >I know the Modular is more expensive and I'm not sure I'm gonna like the PC way of working with it but it seems to me it has more possibilities. > >Could someone convince me in either way with some reasonable arguments - don't just say "Clavia sux" please. > >P In theory and practice, a modular system is far deeper that a regular synth. Either way you go, you'll be happy. Moreover, most synth's in this catagory are very good. They just have their own "sound." Ideally, one would have them all! Look at it this way, do you ever see a famous Musician with just one synth!!!!? If you just get one, get the NordModular. A computer? Get a Macintosh!!!!!!!! You can run the NorModular with Real PC on a Mac. -D P.S. NO WANKERS! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 17:03:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:04:30 -0700 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >>is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? >>that would be realy great! >> > >No. And anyone that continues the warez thread gets unsubscribed. > >No warez trading, or discussion of warez, allowed on teklab mailing lists... > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry >jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com >| la, calif. Oh fuck, I just sent you some advice!!!! AND YOU'RE A FUNK'N WANKER!!!!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 17:03:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:05:26 -0700 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >>* From: Kanou >> >>heya, >> >>is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? >> >>that would be realy great! > >Hahahaha, euh thats illegal you know :-) If I would send a copy everybody knows I have an illegal copy. (assuming I have a copy of course) > >Search the internet with a FTP search program....it's there. > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels >Email :fsp@wxs.nl Fuck off yu WANDER!!!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 17:04:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:05:50 -0700 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >>* From: Kanou >> >>heya, >> >>is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? >> >>that would be realy great! > >Hahahaha, euh thats illegal you know :-) If I would send a copy everybody knows I have an illegal copy. (assuming I have a copy of course) > >Search the internet with a FTP search program....it's there. > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels >Email :fsp@wxs.nl > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! OPPS!!!!! SORRY!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 17:05:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:07:24 -0700 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Kanou > >heya, > >is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? > >that would be realy great! > >thanx, > >Kanou > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! BUY IT!!!!!! NO MORE LOSERS ON TEKLAB!!!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 17:07:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:08:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Sounds * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >> >>Wow, I've been calling my XT "Das Knobulator" for months now (in a ridiculous Arnold Schwarzenegger accent, if you must know). I have all my musical partners doing it, too. >> > >No shit?! I've been calling my Virus "Sir Knobulator" for weeks too!!! > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry >jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com >| la, calif. > GO AWAY!!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 17:09:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:10:41 -0700 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: monokrom@sirius.com access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: > >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >>is there anyone among you who would like to send me sound forge 4.0d for pc via email? >>that would be realy great! >> > >No. And anyone that continues the warez thread gets unsubscribed. > >No warez trading, or discussion of warez, allowed on teklab mailing lists... > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry >jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com >| la, calif. > Jay, are the one that doesn't have a VIRUS? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 23:00:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:53:20 +0200 Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:10 PM +0200 on 29.06.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: monokrom@sirius.com > Hey Mr. monokrom, what#s your fucking problem? would you mind switching on that old brain before posting please? or smoking less of that piot or whatever it is you are doing? You are not making new friends here like this, you know. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 17:13:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:31:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Peter Govaers > >Hi list, > >I'm new here (although some members already know me - hi Jay!) and don't have the Virus yet ;-) > >I'm pretty impressed with the specs of the Virus, haven't heard it yet (still waiting for my dealer to have one) but I'm kinda confused : should I go for the Nord Modular or the Virus ? > >I'm want a (virtual) analog to complement my setup. I want it for classic analog sounds (booming basses, pads, ...) and to experiment with and make strange noises and stuff. > >I know the Modular is more expensive and I'm not sure I'm gonna like the PC way of working with it but it seems to me it has more possibilities. > >Could someone convince me in either way with some reasonable arguments - don't just say "Clavia sux" please. > > Well, if you want modulation, you want the Nord Modular. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 20:33:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:20:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Hi Peter! Welcome to the virus list! >I'm want a (virtual) analog to complement my setup. I want it for classic analog sounds (booming basses, pads, ...) and to experiment with and make strange noises and stuff. > Of course, both the Virus and the Nord Modular will take care of you in this department. The Virus is a very hands-on synth -- the user interface is very, very good, and it doesn't take a lot of work before you can start tweaking and tuning and making some awesome sounds -- everything you need for classic analog synthesis is right there in front of you. The Nord Modular on the other hand, is a very involved beast. Before you can really start tweaking, you have to set up your modules and patch them -- granted, there are a lot of factory module sets that you can load and start tweaking with, but one of the biggest things I found to be against the Nord Modular was the limited knobs -- they're not labelled, and you only have a few of them. Price and feature-wise, the Modular and the Virus can't really be compared -- they're *similar* sorts of instruments, but very different in many ways. If you don't mind spending the money, using a somewhat clunky knob interface (not labelled, not that many knobs), and wouldn't have a problem with sitting in front of a computer to program your sounds, then the Modular is a good buy. Plus, there are endless streams of synthesis modules coming out for it that make it quite an interesting piece -- if but a more studio-bound one than a live one. (Because of the label limitations on the knobs, I wouldn't consider it a live instrument, really...) But if you want something that's pretty much instantly hands-on the moment you take it out of the box, sounds great, is very easy to record and program (every knob sends MIDI controller info when you change it, so you can record *everything* into your sequencer), and is great for live gigs, then the Virus is definitely the best bet. Now all of this is true. But you really should take a look at the Virus for yourself and see if you like what you hear. If you go in with the mindset that you're looking for something thats a blast to play, and is a really well designed musical instrument, I'm sure once you've had a listen you'll decide to pick up the Virus... It really is a great musical instrument, and I doubt you'll ever get tired of it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 20:33:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:24:07 -0700 Subject: monokrom? Are you *trying* to get unsubscribed? * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Hey, monokrom, before I succumb to the impulse to unsubscribe you (due to the last 6 messages you sent to the list where you somewhat puzzlingly insult a few people), I thought I'd ask - are you okay? Are you really that dissatisfied with the access-list that you'd prefer to go down in flames rather than just quietly unsubscribe yourself? Just asking, in case I've gotten everything terribly wrong. And all you need to do is ask, and I'll unsubscribe you. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jun 29 23:16:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:13:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:20 PM +0200 on 29.06.1998 access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >start tweaking with, but one of the biggest things I found to be against the Nord Modular was the limited knobs -- they're not labelled, and you only have a few of them. One ting I thought of immediately the first time I saw the Nord Modular was why not make yourself a piece of transparent plastic, label it (use a typewriter,handwriting is not considered professional) and label the buttons for yourself. that would make things much easier. You could use different sheets for different patch families. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 00:07:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:04:30 -0700 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >One ting I thought of immediately the first time I saw the Nord Modular was why not make yourself a piece of transparent plastic, label it (use a typewriter,handwriting is not considered professional) and label the buttons for yourself. >that would make things much easier. You could use different sheets for different patch families. Yeah, but in a live situation, this is still way more of a hassle than it's worth, I think. Seems to me there's an aftermarket for layover LCD screens that you can put underneath each knob and have them change automatically when you change Programs on the Nord... I'd design something like this myself, if I had a Nord Modular. Any venture capitalists on this list want to fund such a fun and rewarding project? :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 10:13:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:11:22 EDT Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Elhardt@aol.com I have both a Virus and a Nord Modular. All I can say is that I am spending a lot more time with the Nord Modular. It could keep you busy for the rest of your life. When synthesizing realistic acoustic instrument sounds or really weird effects, the Nord is the way to go. A number of people mention the knobs on the Nord Modular as being too few ( there are 18 ) and unmarked and therefore not good for live performance. Generally you would just attach some kind of midi control (velocity, pressure, mod wheel, pedal, etc...) to parameters you want live control of anyway. Unfortunately, trying to run the Nord software on a Mac requires more than just Virtual PC, according to Sound on Sound magazine. It also requires that you use an EMagic Unitor 8 midi interface, are running System 8.1d, have a 604 CPU and 48Mb RAM. However, when I hear that same tired old "I want to use it for Bass, Pads, etc...", I am not sure how much you would appreciate the Nord Modular. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 10:46:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:50:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Peter Govaers >I have both a Virus and a Nord Modular. All I can say is that I am spending a >lot more time with the Nord Modular. OK, but I wanna know why. Is it because you are drawing some patch with your mouse for an hour before you have a sound ready ? Or is the machine so incredible you can't stop playing with it. I think you could say the same about the Virus, right ? >Unfortunately, trying to run the >Nord software on a Mac requires more than just Virtual PC, according to Sound on Sound magazine. It also requires that you use an EMagic Unitor 8 midi interface, are running System 8.1d, have a 604 CPU and 48Mb RAM. I am running PC. And am planning on buying the Unitor8 anyway. >However, >when I hear that same tired old "I want to use it for Bass, Pads, etc...", I am not sure how much you would appreciate the Nord Modular. I'm not sure what you mean : the Mod isn't good in classic sounds or are you a purist saying the Mod is way too good to do those stupid classic sounds ? The point simply is : I want a machine that can do both. Yes, those tired old basses and strings and pads. But I also want lots of synthesis methods for creating new sounds. Actually, I kinda figured out myself what's been said here : the Modular has probably more possibilities (it is modular..) and with new modules coming out and stuff. The Virus on the other hand is probably a bit more straightforward to use when making music. I think I'll pay a visit to some shops, experiment a bit, hear them both play. Anyway, thanx for all the answers, although "if you want modulation, you need the Nord" like someone said wasn't really helpful ;-) P ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 12:46:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:44:22 +0200 Subject: There have been changes * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi y'all, just to let you all know, I have changed several parts of the website, like the FAQ, there is a new guestbook that some of you might not know yet, OS 1.54 and all that. take a look at it... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 17:20:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: University of Plymouth Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:20:25 BST Priority: normal Subject: Re: sf4d? * From: Dear K9, what is piot and can you get me some? N-tropic ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 17:54:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 98 17:57:14 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: PLEASE STOP STUPID MAILS!!!.... * From: Raymund Beyer ...PLEASE! Ray >* From: > >Dear K9, > what is piot and can you get me some? > >N-tropic > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 18:04:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:08:15 +0200 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Peter Govaers >>Anyway, thanx for all the answers, although "if you want modulation, you need >>the Nord" like someone said wasn't really helpful ;-) > >Only helpful if you use them a lot and are considering a Virus, which doesn't have a very flexible modulation routing system. Sorry if you are not helped by this. OK, it was me. I didn't get your point. I do now (I think). P ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jun 30 17:46:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:04:21 -0800 Subject: Re: Can someone convince me ? * From: Gene Schwartz >Anyway, thanx for all the answers, although "if you want modulation, you need the Nord" like someone said wasn't really helpful ;-) > Only helpful if you use them a lot and are considering a Virus, which doesn't have a very flexible modulation routing system. Sorry if you are not helped by this. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!