X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 1 10:19:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Yo To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Controversial? I made music WITH feces FOR feces a long time ago.......try again.......oh yeah, and your private message was sent to the whole list...... I'm also starting a new "contoversial" epic/electronic/progressive concept album based off ancient mythology called "Oriface and the Riddle of the Sphincter"...........yeah right. Isn't twiddling and tweaking hundreds of plastic nipples enough? Gel-Sol --- UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: >* From UniqueDBE@aol.com > >Hi, Paulo. You're back in the homeland now, right? > >I'm putting together my most controversial album yet, "Shite Beats for >Shiites." > >What are you up to? > >Blake > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 2 07:11:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:06:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Procedure to make custom sounds in Bank C and D? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Did'nt we have the discussion before that one should'n get drunk during a gig? :-p Dunno, but it would be handy. O, wait, that brings me to another idea. A 'memprotect' for individual patches. When you're done with making a patch, just put 'em on individual protect mode. Would that be possible? And a knob-combination +/- to jump to the next patch which does'nt have mem-protect yet, to store to. That would mean not losing patches and no patch administration necesary. Dimitri. Op Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jay Vaughan schreef: >* From Jay Vaughan >Since the C & D banks are stored in Flash ROM during the OS update procedure, is it possible to somehow replace these sounds with custom versions instead? That way I could have all of my tour sounds in Flash ROM and never worry about overwriting them during mad drunken after-gig parties, and stuff... :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 2 16:37:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:32:42 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Procedure to make custom sounds in Bank C and D? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:06 AM +0200 on 02.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >Dunno, but it would be handy. O, wait, that brings me to another idea. A 'memprotect' for individual patches. When you're done with making a patch, just put 'em on individual protect mode. Would that be possible? And a knob-combination +/- to jump to the next patch which does'nt have mem-protect yet, to store to. That would mean not losing patches and no patch administration necesary. Hm, that sounds a bit like you need to be drunk to fully understand how this works. Much frustration potential for newbies in there...! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 3 16:54:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:32:21 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Procedure to make custom sounds in Bank C and D? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >>Dunno, but it would be handy. O, wait, that brings me to another idea. A 'memprotect' for individual patches. >Hm, that sounds a bit like you need to be drunk to fully understand how this works. Much frustration potential for newbies in there...! :) I know my sony HR-MP5 fx unit does this and I love it. I'm one of those people who don't bother names when they're busy producing. I end up having 10 patches named 'DNB BASS1'...:) And overwriting becomes a serious thread... Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 3 22:57:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:54:32 +0100 Subject: Should I? From: "S. W. Krupp" To: "Access-list" X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "S. W. Krupp" Hi! Krupp here... Back home.... Thanx for the Copenhagen advise... I never got that free moments, though. My question: Should I uppgrade... I wonder if I would miss those nasty sounds inbetween the waveforms. And: How many times can a machine like the fabolous VIRUS be upgraded? Is there a limit? I have no idea what so ever on the physics here. ..no place like home! kRuPp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 06:28:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Test Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:21:45 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Test ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 07:05:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:59:29 -0700 From: Arthur Kim Organization: http://www.seattleu.edu/~artman X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Arthur Kim Hey all, How much would you say a used Virus is worth in the US? Thanks, -Art ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 07:27:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:23:07 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM If they can be bought new for about $1100, a fair used price would be $900. Supply and demand may tell you differently. DTM. Arthur Kim wrote: >* From Arthur Kim > >Hey all, > >How much would you say a used Virus is worth in the US? > >Thanks, >-Art > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 08:52:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 08:50:03 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello y'all, now that I successfully downloaded and installed the 2.51, one question still remains unanswered. I created a patch with filter routing set to split. When I only set the ringmodulator to a value != 0 and then back to 0, setting Sub Osc = 0, Noise = 0 and Osc Vol=-63 (-64?) no fx send at all, in some cases still the same sound comes out of the V. I had this already in the 2.50. Did I miss something? How is the ringmod routed ? Does it bypass the filter in split mode? Is it a feature or a flaw? regards ---- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 08:59:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 23:55:13 -0700 From: Arthur Kim Organization: http://www.seattleu.edu/~artman X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Arthur Kim Well, I have a one month old Virus for sale (they can't get any newer than this!). I could use some extra $$$ to pay for my new sport bike. Am I crazy?!!! Yes, I love this box, but I can also buy another one at another time... . I guess I'm taking offers. -Art DTM wrote: >* From DTM > >If they can be bought new for about $1100, a fair used price would be $900. Supply and demand may tell you differently. > >DTM. > >Arthur Kim wrote: > >>* From Arthur Kim >> >>Hey all, >> >>How much would you say a used Virus is worth in the US? >> >>Thanks, >>-Art >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 10:11:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: Re: Test Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:09:59 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Wagner" also a test ; ) ignore..... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 11:14:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: problems with update..... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:09:38 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Wagner" hi ; ) has anyone here experienced problems while updating the virus ? somehow the virus counts as far as 91 and then stops updating....(sometimes it doesnīt even come further then 30 something...) i tried all kinds of tempos from 60 to 120 bpm while updating.... also the virus recieves midi data that was sent on ch 1 on ch 3 ; ( it is also not possible to send midi on ch 2. is this a hardware bug ?? is it possible to reset the virus somehow ? do i have to send the virus to access ? thanx for any help ; ) mark ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 12:23:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:10:13 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: problems with update..... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:09 AM +0200 on 04.05.1999 Mark Wagner wrote: >is this a hardware bug ?? This is possible, even though the hardware problem will not be in the Virus but more likely inside oyur computer or MIDI interface. Try it with a different interface, computer, sequencer and usually it will work. I have expereinced it once when I helped my dealer update a virus to 2.5, his MIDI interface didn't like the sysex and reliably missed a block after 110 every time. We changed MIDI interfaces and everything went smoovely. >is it possible to reset the virus somehow ? yes, please check the FAQ for this. >do i have to send the virus to access ? not yet. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 13:28:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: problems with update..... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:20:59 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >somehow the virus counts as far as 91 and then stops updating.... Maybe sequencer is sending MIDI time code? >also the virus recieves midi data that was sent on ch 1 on ch 3 ; ( it is also not possible to send midi on ch 2. Could be your Multi part settings under Ctrl menu. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 14:46:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: Re: problems with update..... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:45:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Wagner" thanx so far guys.... iīll try it ; ) cu mark...... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 15:53:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:48:51 EDT Subject: Updates,saving and patch editors To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Davidzzz@aol.com Hi, I have been without a working modem at home and am still using version 1.xx (somewhere in the .70 region). I want to up to update but before I do I need to know if I will lose all my current patches. If not fine, otherwise on a Mac with vst how could I save them. Thanks in advance. david z peters ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 16:00:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:58:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" <2.51> >I created a patch with filter routing set to split. When I only set the ringmodulator to a value != 0 and then back to 0, setting Sub Osc = 0, Noise = 0 and Osc Vol=-63 (-64?) no fx send at all, in some cases still the same sound comes out of the V. Split Mode: If RM volume is anything other than 0, you get the Oscillators (not the RM signal!) at full volume - definitely a flaw. BTW: Only the RM is independant of OSC VOL, so the Noise and SUB OSC settings are irrelevant when OSC VOL = 0. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:36:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:30:09 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Updates,saving and patch editors Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:48 PM +0200 on 04.05.1999 Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: >I want to up to update but before I do I need to know if I will lose all my current patches. If not fine, otherwise on a Mac with vst how could I save them. you can dump all your patches into VST (which you should do as a backup no matter if you are going to update at all) but if everything goes well and you don't acceidetally press the wrong buttons, you won't lose your patches. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:15:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 17:10:37 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Howard, thanks for your post. Howard Scarr wrote: ><2.51> >Split Mode: If RM volume is anything other than 0, you get the Oscillators (not the RM signal!) at full volume - definitely a flaw. No, this is not what I meant. I set RM to != 0 and then right back to 0 (zero) and the V puts out the sound as with vol !=0. I'm not sure what I hear: The RM or Osc sounding, I have to get a little bit deeper into it. > >BTW: Only the RM is independant of OSC VOL, so the Noise and SUB OSC settings are irrelevant when OSC VOL = 0. Maybe I didn't understand this correctly. The readme to 2.51 says: >... EDIT menu). When the volume is set to zero, the ringmodulator is off. Just like the noise signal, the ringmodulator is not affected by the setting of the OSC VOL This is the specification (ahem readme...). What I observed is, that the above specification is not always correct. When RM vol is set to zero in some cases the RM is not off. (or another source is sounding) Lars P.S. Again, all potential buyers, who read this: This is only a liiiiittttttllllleeeeee flaw, nothing that should prevent someone from buying a virus. I would never sell mine. Never. I'm out. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:59:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Recording Controller Data in CuBase To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? Thanks, Gel-Sol _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 18:58:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:41:56 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer On Tue, May 4, 1999, Guy Incognito wrote: >* From Guy Incognito > >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? First make sure you have set the Knobmode of the Virus set to *Int+Midi* or Midi. Second make sure that Cubase does not filter the controller or sysex data at the input. Usually it is better to the the lower page parameter sends in the Virus the Controller (itīs set to sysex by default), because controller data is less timing critical than sysex. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 18:53:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:48:26 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? for me, I plug the MIDI Input cable going to my computer into the MIDI Output of the Virus, hit record in Cubase, and start twisting knobs. Works perfectly every time (thx Access!) You may want to check out the MIDI Filter in Cubase ... maybe you have something turned off. On my version (Windows v.3.5.3 [or something like that]) the MIDI Filter is accessible via the Audio menu... Another thing to try is to go into the MIDI setup in Cubase and ensure that Cubase is indeed paying attention to the MIDI IN that you have plugged into the Virus' MIDI OUT. Yet another thing would be if the MIDI OUT from the Virus was plugged into another box before it reaches the computer, and that box is not set to do MIDI THRU (like the Virus' Soft MIDI Thru option...) -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 19:31:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: korpen@intouch.bc.ca Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:17:38 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Keith Orpen Subject: Global Channel, PGM Changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Keith Orpen Hiya, What is the global channel for? I can't get a program change from Cubase to make the Virus change the current Multi ... I do that all the time with my Nord. Whassup? Isn't that the point of a global channel? I guess I'm doing something wrong... Keith ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 19:31:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: korpen@intouch.bc.ca Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:25:30 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Keith Orpen Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Keith Orpen Disclaimer: I'm not a Virus owner, but I've often helped integrate my friend's infectious beastie into my setup for jams etc... Make sure that your controller mode is "Panel+MIDI". Make sure that your MIDI SoftThru is disabled (so Out=Out, not Thru). You should see MIDI activity (both in & out) on the Cubase transport bar whenever you turn a knob. Select a track in Cubase with an appropriate out channel. Good luck! Keith At 08:55 AM 5/4/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Guy Incognito > >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? > >Thanks, >Gel-Sol >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 19:12:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: gelsol@yahoo.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:24:27 +0000 Subject: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >* From Guy Incognito > >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? > >Thanks, >Gel-Sol Have you made sure that the Virus' panel mode is set to "MIDI" rather than "INT"? It's under the Control button some way down. Steve (N-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 00:29:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Still no Response To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Ok, I tried all your guys advice, but still no response.....I get the note-on data, but nothing else....I was trying to record the knob movements I had made to Filter cutoff 1......any other suggestions? Oh yeah, I'm going out of the Virus into a MTP Timepiece AV into a powermac running CuBase 4.0.....if that helps anyone at all.... Thanks Again! Gel-Sol --- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >>Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob >movements in Cubase? >>I've tried everything except the way that makes it >work.....my Nord >>Lead works finw when recording knob >movements......is it CuBase or the >>Virus? > >for me, I plug the MIDI Input cable going to my computer into the MIDI >Output of the Virus, hit record in Cubase, and start twisting knobs. >Works perfectly every time (thx Access!) > >You may want to check out the MIDI Filter in Cubase ... maybe you have >something turned off. On my version (Windows v.3.5.3 [or something like >that]) the MIDI Filter is accessible via the Audio menu... > >Another thing to try is to go into the MIDI setup in Cubase and ensure >that Cubase is indeed paying attention to the MIDI IN that you have >plugged into the Virus' MIDI OUT. > >Yet another thing would be if the MIDI OUT from the Virus was plugged >into another box before it reaches the computer, and that box is not set >to do MIDI THRU (like the Virus' Soft MIDI Thru option...) > >-zs > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 01:14:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:11:04 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Still no Response Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp when you spin the knobs, do the input LEDs on the MTP flicker? If not, you've got a problem between the Virus MIDI OUT and the MTP (or its configuration -- it's a pretty fancy box, right?) If the LEDs flash, then look in Cubase ... the 'IN' meter on the transport bar should illuminate. If it doesn't then you've got a problem between the MTP's out and Cubase ... really make sure that Cubase is paying attention to that particular input. You mentioned that your Nord works fine ... try unplugging the Nord and plugging the Virus into the same INPUT on your MTP ... see what happens then... good luck zs >Ok, I tried all your guys advice, but still no response.....I get the note-on data, but nothing else....I was trying to record the knob movements I had made to Filter cutoff 1......any other suggestions? > >Oh yeah, I'm going out of the Virus into a MTP Timepiece AV into a powermac running CuBase 4.0.....if that helps anyone at all.... > >Thanks Again! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:40:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:35:29 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Bug in 2.51? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Access, after upgrading to o.s. 2.51 I notice that there is still a click/crack sound from the Virus when stopping my sequencer. (Cubase VST 3.6) It's perhaps not quite as loud as it was in 2.5 but still annoying. Do you plan to fix this? Regards, Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 04:00:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: what next??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus after all these updates and great new features... what could access possibly add to teh virus in a future os update?? if there will ever be one... oh and.... i was just curious... the new viruses comming out now.. will be shiped with OS2.5 will that effect teh price of the synth??(a buddy of mine wants to know:) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 05:23:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 20:25:18 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: what next??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I'd like to see a feature where the virus indicates its current voice usage. I know how much virus-brain power each of my patches consumes, but things get complicated when I'm playing a song with four different patches, some of which have a long decay time and notes overlapping each other. I know this has been suggested before, but I'd just like to (belatedly) second it. Cam At 07:04 PM 5/4/99 -0700, you wrote: >after all these updates and great new features... what could access possibly add to teh virus in a future os update?? if there will ever be one... Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 04:58:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:55:50 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com btw: does any one know how to sync the Virus with Cubase VST/4.0? I had it running perfectly before and just moved and now it just doesn't to work properly! I basically need the configuration in the synchronization menu from CUbase. Thanks! =m= ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 05:00:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:58:22 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Bug in 2.51? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com I've had the same problem/trouble too. Though with 2.5 and not 2.51. =m= Bilbo Bagginz wrote: >* From Bilbo Bagginz > >Hi Access, >after upgrading to o.s. 2.51 I notice that there is still a click/crack sound from the Virus when stopping my sequencer. (Cubase VST 3.6) It's perhaps not quite as loud as it was in 2.5 but still annoying. Do you plan to fix this? > >Regards, >Bilbo Bagginz > >-- >http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:00:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:20:45 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Cam wrote: >* From Cam > >I'd like to see a feature where the virus indicates its current voice usage. I know how much virus-brain power each of my patches consumes, but things get complicated when I'm playing a song with four different patches, some of which have a long decay time and notes overlapping each other. > >I know this has been suggested before, but I'd just like to (belatedly) second it. Yes this would be great! With something like a peak hold function, so that it wouldnīt be necessary to watch this indicator all the time. Or maybe the possibility to switch the LFO-LEDs to that funktion: if LFO 1 is lit there is a consumption of e.g. 9 voices, if LFO 2 is lit there was an overload (a voice has allready been stolen). If you have many overloads this means: buy another Virus ;-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:00:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 03:56:39 EDT Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com I just got Cubase VST 3.6 (windows95) today. The sync works fine for me. Make sure "sync" is lit up on the transport bar; your midi output is selected in the "midi clock" window of the "sync out" box on the sync page; and that the virus receive midi clock option is on "auto". that should be it as far as I know. good luck. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:01:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 03:58:02 EDT Subject: Re: what next??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com In a message dated 5/4/99 10:28:05 PM Central Daylight Time, clockwork@bvl.net writes: << I'd like to see a feature where the virus indicates its current voice usage. I know how much virus-brain power each of my patches consumes, but things get complicated when I'm playing a song with four different patches, some of which have a long decay time and notes overlapping each other. I know this has been suggested before, but I'd just like to (belatedly) second it. Cam >> Yes, I agree! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:14:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:10:03 +0200 Subject: Re: Global Channel, PGM Changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 04 May 1999 10:17:38 -0700, Keith Orpen wrote: >* From Keith Orpen > >Hiya, > >What is the global channel for? I can't get a program change from Cubase to make the Virus change the current Multi ... There is a SYSEX code for selecting MULTIS: F0 00 20 33 01 10 72 00 69 XX F7 where XX is the MULTI number to select. If you use Cubase you might find the driver for the studio module appropriate... CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:57:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Updates,saving and patch editors Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 01:34:22 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" >At 3:48 PM +0200 on 04.05.1999 Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: >>I want to up to update but before I do I need to know if I will lose all >my >>current patches. If not fine, otherwise on a Mac with vst how could I >save >>them. > >you can dump all your patches into VST (which you should do as a backup no matter if you are going to update at all) but if everything goes well and you don't acceidetally press the wrong buttons, you won't lose your patches. > >think different! > >Canine > With regards to this subject, does anyone know if it will be possible to save patches using a Yamaha RM1x?! It should be, but I need to know for sure before shelling out the cash! Thanks! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 11:18:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:30:34 +0000 Subject: Re: Global Channel, PGM Changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >* From Keith Orpen > >Hiya, > >What is the global channel for? I can't get a program change from Cubase to make the Virus change the current Multi ... I do that all the time with my Nord. Whassup? Isn't that the point of a global channel? I guess I'm doing something wrong... > >Keith > You have also to enable the Multi Prog Change parameter. It's a few items further down the control menu from Global Channel. BTW, the global Chanel is also the channel used for reception when in single mode. Steve. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 13:59:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 07:55:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Global Channel, PGM Changes From: "jmw/cmu" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "jmw/cmu" >There is a SYSEX code for selecting MULTIS: F0 00 20 33 01 10 72 00 69 XX F7 >where XX is the MULTI number to select. This only works if the virus is already in multi mode. Does anyone know how do get the Virus to switch from one mode to another via sysex? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 15:51:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Esabuc@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:41:12 EDT Subject: virus KB sightings??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Esabuc@aol.com Has anyone seen one for sale yet? If not any word on when? thanks chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 17:41:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:36:04 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access list Subject: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hey folks, some of you may have already visited Canine Website. A few weeks ago, I left one of my biggest wishes on the wish list (which then was only in german...): A faster envelope (decay time) to generate some real clicking (kicking) sounds. I mean not only bassdrums. I added as a reference synth the Korg Mono/Poly. Canine then added, that a self oscillating filter is the second thing to be needed for these kind of sounds. Now my question to the users of virtual analogue synths like Microwave XT, Nord Lead / Modular etc.: Does any of those synths, that is fully digital (before the DAC) have a faster envelope, than those of the V? Or is the V the world champion regarding fast envelopes? If the latter is true, I will shut my mouth. I already tested the JP 8080 and the Nord Lead. They both sounded good, especially the JP, but I finally decided to buy the V. Any comments? regards -- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 18:08:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: REarly@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:02:10 EDT Subject: Changed Patch To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From REarly@aol.com Last night, while working on a song, the Vocoder patch I was using suddenly changed, the sound became much thinner and started to click. I turned the virus off and back on several times but the patch wasn't restored. Anybody have any ideas as to what might have caused it, and how to get the patch back? It was a preset patch (except for slightly modified filter settings.) Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 18:23:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:25:12 +0200 Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Lars Herrlein >Does any of those synths, that is fully digital (before the DAC) have a faster envelope, than those of the V? Or is the V the world champion regarding fast envelopes? If the latter is true, I will shut my mouth. > >I already tested the JP 8080 and the Nord Lead. They both sounded good, especially the JP, but I finally decided to buy the V. > >Any comments? Hi Lars, IMO the Envelope of the Virus is not too slow, but it has something like a random timing (hope you unterstand). But this gives a lot of sounds charme, besides many other factors. I also have a Nord Rack 2 and IMO it has very quick, but sterile sounding envelopes. The whole Nord is sounding sterile, but on same tracks its the kind of sound that I need. I donīt know the JP so well - I donīt like its sound exepting this supersaw waveform. The AN1x is also a nice one (I also have). It sometimes sounds a little bit like the Nord Lead, also has quite quick envelopes. Maybe you should take a look at it - its a totally crazy synth, but hard to program without software, and its cheap because Yahaha has discontinued it. Hope this helps Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 18:46:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Got it!!!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Ok, I got it to work, but i don't know how.....I switched midi cables, but i don't think that was it cuz CuBase received note-on data all along......screwy computer......screwy humans........... Thanks for all the help! Gel-Sol --- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >when you spin the knobs, do the input LEDs on the MTP flicker? > >If not, you've got a problem between the Virus MIDI OUT and the MTP (or >its configuration -- it's a pretty fancy box, right?) > >If the LEDs flash, then look in Cubase ... the 'IN' meter on the >transport bar should illuminate. > >If it doesn't then you've got a problem between the MTP's out and Cubase >... really make sure that Cubase is paying attention to that particular >input. > >You mentioned that your Nord works fine ... try unplugging the Nord and >plugging the Virus into the same INPUT on your MTP ... see what happens >then... > >good luck >zs > > > >>Ok, I tried all your guys advice, but still no >response.....I get the >>note-on data, but nothing else....I was trying to >record the knob >>movements I had made to Filter cutoff 1......any >other suggestions? >> >>Oh yeah, I'm going out of the Virus into a MTP >Timepiece AV into a >>powermac running CuBase 4.0.....if that helps >anyone at all.... >> >>Thanks Again! > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:15:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:06:45 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:38 PM +0200 on 05.05.1999 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >Any comments? I think this is simply ingenious. And I mean it. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:15:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:08:22 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Changed Patch Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:02 PM +0200 on 05.05.1999 REarly@aol.com wrote: >Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? > >Rob yes, just save the same patch from the C or D bank into the slot where you were editing it. You may have to update to OS 2.5 before you an actually see the C and D banks if you haven't already done so. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:15:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:11:08 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:25 PM +0200 on 05.05.1999 Raymund Beyer wrote: >IMO the Envelope of the Virus is not too slow, but it has something like a random timing (hope you unterstand). But this gives a lot of sounds charme, besides many other factors. I also have a Nord Rack 2 and IMO it has very quick, but sterile sounding envelopes. The whole Nord is sounding sterile, but on same tracks its the kind of sound that I need. I don't know what it is, but a Korg MS-20 has a much louder, much more defined sound for short, percussive sounds. I guessed that this has to do with the self-oscillating filters. Then again, the Nord Lead does not have filters that self oscillate and still its envelopes are much better suited for bass drums than the Virus'. They seem to have more energy. But the filter always sounds like a Nord, so they (Clavia) may have "cheated". No seriously I bet this kind of energy would be possible for the Virus but it would most likely change the overall sound of the synth. And I wouldn't want that. Better save this for a possible Virus II. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:29:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:24:46 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Got it!!!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Ok, I got it to work, but i don't know how.....I switched midi cables, but i don't think that was it cuz CuBase received note-on data all along......screwy computer......screwy humans........... I wasn't aware that the Virus was capable of sending a note-on message... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:36:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:31:52 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Any comments? I agree with my fellow listmembers that I'd like some indication of how many voices are currently being used (maybe with a peak hold for x number of seconds). There have been many occasions when I've been curious if I'm running up against the polyphony limit of this wonderful machine ... and usually I don't have the patience to open up all my tracks in cubase and count how many are used. As far as a voice-stealing indicator, I'm not sure how useful this would be. Like Christoph Kemper said, if you can hear the note stealing, then you can do something about it. If you can't hear the note stealing, then it's not an issue and you are worrying about something that you shouldn't be worrying about! But some indicator of # of voices being used would be helpful when deciding whether *another* track can safely be given to the Virus... my USD$.02 (DM .04) -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 20:28:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:27:34 +0200 Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >Any comments? ----- Thanks Christoph for giving us so much insight in your thoughts! And the current *stealing algorithm* is brilliant! Any many of your thoughts are wright also in my opinion. >If a >voice steal happens that affects the musical performance, I can hear it, since I created the music. Well okay. But quite oftem making music is a quite choatic process and sometimes I loose the clearness over all the signals especially when customers are sitting around and all the handys are ringing.... a normal day. So it sometimes happenes, that a pads voices are stolen and I donīt notice it, maybe also because there is some delay on it. After hearing this a few times (without having noticed it) Iīll maybe take it as it is . And for that such an indicator would be useful, because it warnes my that something MIGHT go wrong, without hearing every track in solo on the desk. I donīt think its a *must* feature, but IMO it could help me with my daily work. It would be similar to Logics and Cubases CPU meter, that warn me not to open more VST plug-ins. The Virus would warn me not to use him for the next signal and I would try to do it with another synth. >If the Virus simply shows the current amout of voices per part, you might not see if a voice is really stolen or has just ended regulary. This indicator should not work only for one part, but for the whole CPU usage IMO. >Example: >Usually the Virus demo song would produce a couple of audible voice stealings. Since it combines pad sounds with drum sounds, the hihat sounds would steal the pads. Using the Virus voice stealing the hihats will steal another hihat instead of the pads, because the hihats are decaying fast. This is absolutely inaudible, I checked this for hours. Sure, this is done very well (BTW, I really like the Demo, why donīt you make a record out of it?). But in the padpart you can hear that the pad does not play relaxed (you sure know what I mean - its because the release is very short). And some things like these happen all the day and oftem I donīt have the time to listen to it for hours.... Anyway: there is still a feature that would be much more important for me: the controller dump feature for the Multi stuff!! I donīt know if you are planning to do this, but the Multi-SIngle patch controller dump has allready saved me so much time, because now there is no more need to tantalize the Virus knobs until I have found the parameter iīm searching for. It also would be great if the patch names were included. And again I have to say thanx for the support you Access guys are giving us! I also love the Virus running a bass in 12-voice mode - this reminds me of the great Sequential Circuits Pro one ;-))) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 20:45:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:32:48 +0200 Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >No seriously I bet this kind of energy >would be possible for the Virus but it would most likely change the overall sound of the synth. And I wouldn't want that. Better save this for a possible Virus II. 100% agreed! ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 21:36:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:33:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>Split Mode: If RM volume is anything other than 0, you get the Oscillators (not the RM signal!) at full volume. >No, this is not what I meant. >I set RM to != 0 and then right back to 0 (zero) and the V puts out the sound as with vol !=0. You're probably still holding down a key. Pressing again gives you silence... it's just another little symptom of the same flaw - which will be fixed very soon by the wonderful Access team, if I'm not mistaken! >I'm not sure what I hear: The RM or Osc sounding IMO the oscillators at full volume (you can check this by setting both oscillators to SINE and twisting SEMITONE). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 10:48:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:48:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I am not really happy about this idea. >....Any comments? >Christoph Kemper Personally, I've never missed an indicator for this. However, I mainly use singles and record to audio. BTW: Your method is really good! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 22:10:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:07:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus and the MPC: A happy or dysfunctional family? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Hello all, I use an Akai MPC as the center of my little studio (anyone unfamiliar with the MPC-- its a sampling drum machine/sequencer that's capable enough to do most things professionally for those of us who don't want to do our sequencing in front of a computer monitor) Anyway I digress. For some reason, when I try to load Virus O.S.'s (its' happened when I got 2.5 and again with 2.51) the MPC tells me it doesn't have enough memory to do it. It's just a single floppy, though, and the MPC's Load/Save screen shows me that the O.S.'s file size is just over 500 K AND it says that the MPC has more than that amount of sequence space available. I have successfully loaded the O.S.'s by carting my Virus to a studio equipped with a Macintosh and Studio Vision, but that's obviously a bit of an inconvenience. Any thoughts on what's going on here? (Step away from the monitor, put the internet down reeeeal slow, and nobody's gonna get hurt...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 23:41:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:48:03 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus KB sightings??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD virus boards are 4-6 weeks out \ i heard this from a fairly reliable connection last week all the best weld Esabuc@aol.com wrote: >* From Esabuc@aol.com > >Has anyone seen one for sale yet? >If not any word on when? > >thanks >chris >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 23:42:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:49:27 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: virus rack for sale Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i have a virus rack in greal condition for sale im asking 900$ and will pay for shipping as a charter member of this list many will vouge all the best weld Esabuc@aol.com wrote: >* From Esabuc@aol.com > >Has anyone seen one for sale yet? >If not any word on when? > >thanks >chris >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 02:23:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:19:31 EDT Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 11:17:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 02:56:50 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >>But in the padpart you can hear that the pad does not play relaxed (you sure >>know what I mean - its because the release is very short). > >Not true. They don't sound relaxed because they are played sometimes too layed-back and unsteady. >You can hear the free releasing pads when the full beat comes in. This is a point where the pads would be stolen immediately by the drums, when a classical note steal is used. I wonīt count the voices now ;-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 04:21:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:45:44 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >From VirusMPC@aol.com >I just got Cubase VST 3.6 (windows95) today. If you get frustrated with Cubase's bugs and bullshit, you might want to check out Logic Audio. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 08:58:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 06:51:41 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 6 May 1999 13:45:44 +1200, "Thomas Whitmore" wrote: >If you get frustrated with Cubase's bugs and bullshit, you might want to check out Logic Audio. Or, better still, report the steps needed to recreate these bugs and then you'll know if anyone else can duplicate them. Hell, then they might even get fixed. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 09:02:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:00:37 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Christoph, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >For a punchy filter attack, did somebody try the PUNCH intensity??? It is built for those sounds. Yes, I already set punch to 127. Not, that I want to complain about that. The attack really rocks, yeah! "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >.... >They seem to have more energy. But the filter always sounds like a Nord, so they (Clavia) may have "cheated". No seriously I bet this kind of energy would be possible for the Virus but it would most likely change the overall sound of the synth. And I wouldn't want that. Better save this for a possible Virus II. > >think different! > >Canine Which leaves the question: Is there a chance in the market for another V? Althogh V 2 or V II would be a horrible name..... ???? Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 09:23:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:19:05 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket I have no idea why people have difficulty making drums on the Virus. A self-oscillating filter would be nice but is not actually necessary for drums if you have a perfectly fine sine wave oscillator. On the Virus, you even have two of them. I have made some very fine bass drums without using the filter at all. Anything from a subtle 'pop' to a window rattling 'DOOMMMMMMM'. Bass drum tips: remember to set keyboard tracking to 0 on both oscillators, set phase init to any value other than 0, use the click feature, and use the filter (resonance at 0) to control the sharpness of the click. Set up one oscillator to do the main sound (maybe with a nice fast high-to-low frequency sweep, use an LFO for that with env mode sawtooth), and set up the other oscillator to provide a subsonic tone, for added oomph. I'll upload my drum sounds as soon as I get round to it, and if anyone is interested. They also include snares, which don't use the noise generator (again, just the oscillators), and a clap which I'm very happy with. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 09:36:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:32:33 +0200 Subject: Re: Changed Patch Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Wed, 5 May 1999 12:02:10 EDT, REarly@aol.com wrote: >Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? If you use Cubase and the studio module you can load the entire bank into the AUX-bank of the studio module. When selecting SINGLEs from an AUX bank the whole patch data of this SINGLE will be transferred into the VIRUS' edit buffer (it won't be stored unless you press the store button). CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 10:02:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:59:59 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Ronald, Ronald Pieket wrote: >I have no idea why people have difficulty making drums on the Virus. A self-oscillating filter would be nice but is not actually necessary for drums if you have a perfectly fine sine wave oscillator. On the Virus, you even have two of them. I have made some very fine bass drums without using the filter at all. Anything from a subtle 'pop' to a window rattling 'DOOMMMMMMM'. I know that I can create real kicking bassdrums with the V. There are some good already shipping with in the box, e.g. the 908 BD sound. But as I wrote in my first mail, it's not only the bdrum sounds that I want. >I'll upload my drum sounds as soon as I get round to it, and if anyone is interested. They also include snares, which don't use the noise generator (again, just the oscillators), and a clap which I'm very happy with. I AM interested. bye Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 10:48:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Got it!!!!! Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:46:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I wasn't aware that the Virus was capable of sending a note-on message... That was my first thought reading that message. But: See MIDI, ArpeggSend :-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 18:26:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:15:13 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V - ***sounds uploaded*** Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Ok, I've uploaded them. There's a ZIP file, which I made with a new utility (on Macintosh). Can you PC-people unzip this successfully? Just in case, the unzipped MID file is also there. And just in case you can't start an indirect download from your email window, there's an HTML file with both other files as links. Take your pick. http://www.happysad.org/virdrums.zip http://www.happysad.org/virdrums.mid http://www.happysad.org/temp.html There's one midi file with eleven sounds, one sound per bar. Each bar contains a sysex message, and a three note demonstration. If you play the midi file to your Access Virus, you will hear the sounds play, slowly, one by one. Simply stop the sequencer at a sound you like, and press the [store] button on your Virus. Some remarks about how the sounds were made: all three bassdrums use the technique I described earlier. That is, they do NOT use a resonant filter, but an oscillator set to sine wave. The filter is used in non-resonant mode for further shaping. SNARE1 and HIHAT2 are made with oscillators, and no noise generator. This makes them sound different from the preset ones. There's a clap which was inspired by a thread on this mailing list - although the method I eventually used is quite different from the one described in the thread. There is a finger-snip which is a variant of the clap sound. Note: several sounds (notably clap and snip) will only work with Virus OS 2.5+! Upgrade if you haven't done so already! Feedback would be appreciated. - Ronald. Lars Herrlein wrote: > >* From Lars Herrlein > >Hello Ronald, > >Ronald Pieket wrote: >>I have no idea why people have difficulty making drums on the Virus. A self-oscillating filter would be nice but is not actually necessary for drums if you have a perfectly fine sine wave oscillator. On the Virus, you even have two of them. I have made some very fine bass drums without using the filter at all. Anything from a subtle 'pop' to a window rattling 'DOOMMMMMMM'. > >I know that I can create real kicking bassdrums with the V. There are some good already shipping with in the box, e.g. the 908 BD sound. >But as I wrote in my first mail, it's not only the bdrum sounds that I want. > >>I'll upload my drum sounds as soon as I get round to it, and if anyone is interested. They also include snares, which don't use the noise generator (again, just the oscillators), and a clap which I'm very happy with. > >I AM interested. > >bye Lars >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 11:24:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:22:42 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >I mentioned in an earlier mail, that the ring modulator does not work in combination with the split mode. The reasons: Ah, O.k. I missed that mail. >The oscillator algorithm is highly optimized. The split mode is an additional optimized program that is switched to the oscillators. So is the ring modulator. Split mode together with ring mod requires a totally new additional program that combines both features, which is very complicated, because it must not exceed a specific calculation power. This is simply not done yet. thanks -- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 12:11:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:07:23 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 6 May 1999 02:56:50 +0200, you wrote: >I won4t count the voices now ;-) I never had cos I use Single mode. ;-) Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. Possible? It would be good to layer another synth internally with the Virus whilst keeping in Single mode. Probably nobody else wants this though, eh? Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 12:24:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:14:38 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 05.05.99 19:34:51 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >>This indicator should not work only for one part, but for the whole CPU usage IMO. >This is a very good idea! >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. If the LED flashes dark, a stealing occured, >but it is inaudible; nevertheless it indicates that no more polyphony should be added. >If the LED flashes bright, a 'hard' voice stealing happened, even if it might >not be audible in a busy arrangement, but it has to be checked. In general, the behavior of the LED directly reflects the voice stealing situation, in time and amplitude. >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? Yesyes!! This is the point. That would be very useful and I think this is what the others that wanted this feature tried to explain. If itīs so easy to implement - great! It looks like we can hope ;-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 12:38:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:33:16 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Paul Nagle wrote: >Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. Possible? It would be good to layer another synth internally with the Virus whilst keeping in Single mode. Probably nobody else wants this though, eh? I want anything that may give me exciting sounds :-) But this should work in Multi Mode if you take the same sound and use the input with the second sound?! A good idea. Iīll try it out. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 15:24:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:20:52 +0200 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness as i am using my beloved virus mostly in input mode with feedbacking the output, i would be very happy to see this implemented! Paul Nagle wrote: Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. Possible? It would be good to layer another synth internally with the Virus whilst keeping in Single mode. Probably nobody else wants this though, eh? Paul  ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 15:57:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:54:08 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: > >This is a very good idea! >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. If the LED flashes dark, a stealing occured, but it is inaudible; nevertheless it indicates that no more polyphony should be added. >If the LED flashes bright, a 'hard' voice stealing happened, even if it might not be audible in a busy arrangement, but it has to be checked. In general, the behavior of the LED directly reflects the voice stealing situation, in time and amplitude. >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? > >Christoph Kemper >access music Hi all ! Yeah, this is a very good thing.Especially for people with less equipment this function is very usefull.And I think there are many people using the VIRUS as the main synth for basses, leads, pads or whatever. Greetings Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 16:22:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: REarly@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:13:37 EDT Subject: Re: Changed Patch To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From REarly@aol.com In a message dated 5/5/99 1:23:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, canine@muenster.de writes: << > Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the >entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? > >Rob yes, just save the same patch from the C or D bank into the slot where you were editing it. You may have to update to OS 2.5 before you an actually see the C and D banks if you haven't already done so. think different! Canine >> Thank you, I upgraded to OS 2.51 and all works again. Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 16:37:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Drum sounds Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:35:06 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Set up one oscillator to do the main sound (maybe with a nice fast high-to-low frequency sweep, use an LFO for that with env mode sawtooth), and set up the other oscillator to provide a subsonic tone, for added oomph. Tip for LFO: Assign LFOx to LFOxRate (to control its own shape!). You can also get LFO PWM and other wierd stuff using this method. >...and a clap which I'm very happy with. I made one (which I'm not quite so happy with) - looking forward to trying yours. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 20:42:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:35:59 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >voice stealing, I never had the feeling to need a display for this. If a voice steal happens that affects the musical performance, I can hear it, since I created the music. If I don't hear voice stealing, it did not happen, I mostly agree - I can usually notice very quickly when I am losing a voice in one of my pieces. But your explanation of the voice-stealing algorithm is very interesting, suddenly I understand why my kick drums may sound strange with too many other parts going. So I could live without a voice stealing count. However a 'peak' indicator might be useful...perhaps if the stealing occurs which is not the in the decay or release stage, the multi+single buttons could flash or something. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 20:45:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 20:48:31 +0200 Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V - ***sounds uploaded*** From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >Feedback would be appreciated. > >- Ronald. Thanx Ronald, great!!! You are a real good sound designer! The SD1 is an extremetly good sound, also as starting point for further edits. I just added some velocity stuff and got some very strange sounding.... - I donīt know what :-) but very percussive and electronically! Claps & Snpis are great too:-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 23:34:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:29:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Access vs. Waldorf To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand What exactly is the relationship between Waldorf and Access? Is Waldorf merely a distributor for the Virus? Is Access is subsidiary of Waldorf? Confused, - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 23:34:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand What's up with the unconcern about interoperability between the Access Virus and Windows?!? Is it really not possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows? Isn't Waldorf being a wee bit jerky by not making sure the OS upgrades work with the most popular computer operating system on earth? I don't own a Mac because Macs are too bloody expensive. Thanks. - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 23:40:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:33:05 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >What's up with the unconcern about interoperability between the Access Virus and Windows?!? Is it really not possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows? No, it's *totally* possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows. What on earth gave you this impression? >Isn't Waldorf being a wee bit jerky by not making sure the OS upgrades work with the most popular computer operating system on earth? What do Waldorf have to do with anything? The Access Virus has *always* been easy to upgrade, OS wise, no matter whether you're using a PC, a Mac, or (in my case) a Yamaha QY700 sequencer... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:25:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:25:39 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Frater, Well, you can't use Windows Midi Player to load Access OS updates. You have to have a "real" sequencer - if that's what you mean. But you can't use QuickTime Midi Player for Mac either. Cubase, Logic, and even the latest Cakewalk all work. It has to do with SYSEX string handling. See the FAQ on the MW2 page of the Waldorf Website for a good explanation. TSI is a distributor for Waldorf products. TSI also makes the Virus. They also share a Tech person. And Macs aren't too darn expensive. They're pretty competetive these days, and offer very good bang-for-buck. But this isn't a Mac-vs-PC forum. Finally, RELAX! Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:28:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:28:09 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE One more thing regarding "Mac Expense": I do have a number of friends who seriously have tried to convince me that Windows is a better platform because of the availability of "cracked" software on places like alt.binaries.sounds.utilities (which almost never has any Mac cracks due to Mac copy protection schemes). That's a bogus argument. I buy my software. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:54:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "terminal bliss" To: Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:58:56 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "terminal bliss" >The Access Virus has *always* been easy to upgrade, OS wise, no matter whether you're using a PC, a Mac, or (in my case) a Yamaha QY700 sequencer... i wouldnt say that. i used to be competely unable to do it with my setup.. cubase vst for windows with a motu midi express xt. i also tried the windows midi player as someone suggested. it still wasnt working. however, i did some stuff with my computer, upgraded to win98, etc, and when the os2.0 came out (i originally had 1.5 and couldnt upgrade anything) it worked fine. it may be attributed to possible cubase upgrades, something changing in the way the files were made (i remember they did something because you couldnt load it on your yamaha sequencer midi type 0 instead of 1? something like this..) who knows? patch dumps never worked properly either... however, all is well. i can upgrade, and ive really been amazed at what access has included in the upgrades.. daniel terminal@xnet.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:20:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:06:15 EDT Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com In a message dated 5/6/99 5:57:19 PM Central Daylight Time, djdeluxe@home.com writes: << * From Elwood Smith you cannot do it that way with the mpc, I believe i was on Akai website some guy created a utility that splits up the virus os allowing you to be able to load using floppy disk, the easiest method id the computer >> Yes, once again here is why. >* From VirusMPC@aol.com >Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. >The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 >MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:29:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:09:28 EDT Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Here's what I use to install the OS in my Virus from Windows. ftp://ftp.rolandus.com/pub/roland/libdata/MISC/SMFPLAYR.ZIP This is a simple but great little program for those of you who haven't used it. Plus it's free! =) Happy tweaking! BURUFUNK ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:30:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:28:50 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp dude you're a freak >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >What's up with the unconcern about interoperability between the Access Virus and Windows?!? Is it really not possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows? > >Isn't Waldorf being a wee bit jerky by not making sure the OS upgrades work with the most popular computer operating system on earth? > >I don't own a Mac because Macs are too bloody expensive. > >Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:37:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:35:09 -0700 Subject: ? on updating to 2.5.1 From: "hak" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hak" excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? respects, -- http://liberty.ispree.net/hak urban_assault[99]info:408.882.5064 www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:30:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 19:38:37 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i have a older mpc60 i picked up cheap, and ive talked a few people into the same sequencer with great results. its very intuitive, and quick for writing, you forget about it. weld Elwood Smith wrote: >* From Elwood Smith > >you cannot do it that way with the mpc, I believe i was on Akai website some guy created a utility that splits up the virus os allowing you to be able to load using floppy disk, the easiest method id the computer > >VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: >> >>* From VirusMPC@aol.com >> >>>I use an Akai MPC as the center of my little studio (anyone unfamiliar with the MPC-- its a sampling drum machine/sequencer that's capable enough to do most things professionally for those of us who don't want to do our sequencing in front of a computer monitor) Anyway I digress. For some reason, when I try to load Virus O.S.'s (its' happened when I got 2.5 and again with 2.51) the MPC tells me it doesn't have enough memory to do it. It's just a single floppy, though, and the MPC's Load/Save screen shows me that the O.S.'s file size is just over 500 K AND >>it says that the MPC has more than that amount of sequence space available. >>I have successfully loaded the O.S.'s by carting my Virus to a studio equipped with a Macintosh and Studio Vision, but that's obviously a bit of an inconvenience. Any thoughts on what's going on here?> >> >>Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:37:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:40:43 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam For the record, I had absolutely no problem loading my OS upgrade. I'm using Windows, Cubase VST 3.6, and a Soundblaster AWE-64 sound card. Kudos, Access. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 02:06:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:00:25 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. I like this idea too, but I suggest you do not put it on the LFO rate LED. Already they are working to do LFO rate and input level, and I am usually very interested to watch what is going on with that. Why not flash some other LED, like the Saturation or transpose LEDs? This would give some information without giving up knowing about what the Virus is doing already. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 02:06:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:00:27 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Paul Nagle wrote... >Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. But you can already do this very easily in multi mode, and you are not giving up any oscillators (eg for big unison patches) to do so. I can't see what is so great about working in single mode, when the Virus does multi-mode so well. But then I like to record by just hitting the Record button on the tape - multitracking is not so interesting to me because I want to be as 'live' as possible. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 02:16:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:14:55 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp dude just try it ... you can't break anything if your system is unable to update it... peas >excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? > >respects, >-- >http://liberty.ispree.net/hak >urban_assault[99]info:408.882.5064 >www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ====================================================== ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:50:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:11:48 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) >>check out Logic Audio. >Or, better still, report the steps needed to recreate these bugs and then you'll know if anyone else can duplicate them. Hell, then they might even get fixed. Been there, tried that, Steinberg don't bother to respond. I actually went to substantial effort, which could have benefited them; now I wouldn't spit on a Steinberg employee if they paid me. As a professional software designer / developer, I identify numerous flaws in every part of Steinberg's design. This poor design means the product will *never* be good or reliable. I have more coarse things to say about Steinberg & employees. But luckily for my gentle readers I decided not to. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 03:11:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: chill To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand Thanks folks. The official Virus web page said something about the OS upgrade not working on Cakewalk for Windows, and only possibly working in Cubase, which is why I asked... Thanks Buru, you read my mind - I'll give that a try when my Virus arrives - hopefully tomorrow. - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 03:24:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:26:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand >dude you're a freak Correction: I'm a super-freak. Y'all: Which box is better at producing lush, gorgeous yet scary dark ambient pads? The Virus or the Supernova? Weird question to ask, I suppose, on a Virus list. I liked the Virus enough to buy one, but I heard a guy playing the SuperNova next to me and it was producing some incredibly lush dark ambient pads. Is it all a matter of programming, or are there limitations on the Virus compared with the Supernova? Does anyone have both? Is it true that the Virus is limited for producing phat bass sounds? Would I be better off sticking with my Juno 106 for those? What's the TB-303 emulation like on the Virus? Not that it matters much - the TB-303 sound is hackneyed, there's Rebirth and the Phatboy controller for that anyway. Just curious. Couldn't afford both (supernova) - I figured the Virus was a better all-around box, and I loved the compactness and lay-out of the Virus; seems like something that would be just the thing for live performances. It begs to be gigged. I'm really looking forward to programming sounds on it; again, seems really easy and organic. Sorry if it sounded like I was slamming the Virus; wouldn't have purchased one if I wasn't already a believer. - F. One last thing - for now - if you could have a 2nd Virus or a Supernova (in addition to the Virus you already own), which would it be and why? Does the Supernova really have no major strengths over the Virus? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:40:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:33:54 -0700 From: Elwood Smith Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elwood Smith you cannot do it that way with the mpc, I believe i was on Akai website some guy created a utility that splits up the virus os allowing you to be able to load using floppy disk, the easiest method id the computer VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: > >* From VirusMPC@aol.com > >I use an Akai MPC as the center of my little studio (anyone unfamiliar with the MPC-- its a sampling drum machine/sequencer that's capable enough to do most things professionally for those of us who don't want to do our sequencing in front of a computer monitor) Anyway I digress. For some reason, when I try to load Virus O.S.'s (its' happened when I got 2.5 and again with 2.51) the MPC tells me it doesn't have enough memory to do it. It's just a single floppy, though, and the MPC's Load/Save screen shows me that the O.S.'s file size is just over 500 K AND >it says that the MPC has more than that amount of sequence space available. >I have successfully loaded the O.S.'s by carting my Virus to a studio equipped with a Macintosh and Studio Vision, but that's obviously a bit of an inconvenience. Any thoughts on what's going on here?> > >Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:17:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:12:42 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From "hak" >excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? Probably. Any sequencer, MIDI interface and OS *should* work fine. The MIDI SysEx protocol is very simple and has been standardized for years - probably in the very first mid-80s MIDI specs. There are very few excuses for a system which doesn't work in this respect. And one good reason to return it to the dealer. With a slack product there are likely to be many other problems also. Both consumer protection & contract law (MIDI compatible; MIDI spec includes SysEx) give strong cases to return *any* product which does not work in this manner at *any* time after purchase. Don't be stuck holding the turd. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:13:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:21:02 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: chill Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD its cakewalk that sucks! W Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >Thanks folks. > >The official Virus web page said something about the OS upgrade not working on Cakewalk for Windows, and only possibly working in Cubase, which is why I asked... > >Thanks Buru, you read my mind - I'll give that a try when my Virus arrives - hopefully tomorrow. > >- F. > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:27:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Patch fuckout - workaround! Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:21:41 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi list & Christoph, I've been getting good results from OS 2.51, and the modulation matrix. But while experimenting on Vi-bass patch with LFO 1 envelope, LFO 1 -> Osc 1 controlled by Assign, and Filt Env -> Osc 2 also controlled by Assign... The sound broke. It went all thin and buzzy. I tried to restore it by clearing Assigns, LFO 1 and checking Osc parameters but couldn't. I reverted to the original Vi-bass patch and started tweaking modulations again. After a while it broke again, similarly; and then the brain wave... Compare mode! Comparing original patch, and then back to edited sound... obviously rebuilt internally, and restored to former glory. Sorted :-) Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:13:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:21:44 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD neither...............waldorf microwave series or wavestation w Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >>dude you're a freak > >Correction: I'm a super-freak. > >Y'all: > >Which box is better at producing lush, gorgeous yet scary dark ambient pads? The Virus or the Supernova? Weird question to ask, I suppose, on a Virus list. I liked the Virus enough to buy one, but I heard a guy playing the SuperNova next to me and it was producing some incredibly lush dark ambient pads. > >Is it all a matter of programming, or are there limitations on the Virus compared with the Supernova? Does anyone have both? > >Is it true that the Virus is limited for producing phat bass sounds? Would I be better off sticking with my Juno 106 for those? > >What's the TB-303 emulation like on the Virus? Not that it matters much - the TB-303 sound is hackneyed, there's Rebirth and the Phatboy controller for that anyway. Just curious. > >Couldn't afford both (supernova) - I figured the Virus was a better all-around box, and I loved the compactness and lay-out of the Virus; seems like something that would be just the thing for live performances. It begs to be gigged. > >I'm really looking forward to programming sounds on it; again, seems really easy and organic. > >Sorry if it sounded like I was slamming the Virus; wouldn't have purchased one if I wasn't already a believer. > >- F. > >One last thing - for now - if you could have a 2nd Virus or a Supernova (in addition to the Virus you already own), which would it be and why? Does the Supernova really have no major strengths over the Virus? > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:38:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:24:43 EDT Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 To: access-list@teklab.com, hak1@earthlink.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 5/6/99 6:46:02 PM, hak1@earthlink.net writes: << excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? >> I have been able to update the Virus with VisionDSP 4.2 and a Studio 4. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 05:26:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:48:38 EDT Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/6/99 7:43:21 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Marzzz@aol.com writes: >I have been able to update the Virus with VisionDSP 4.2 and a Studio 4. > >Marshall I updated my Virus with StudioVision Pro V3.? and a Studio 4, but I had to get the tempo setting right. 120bpm worked fine, but slower ones didn't work (I tried 60bpm first, but no go...). 120 worked fine and now my Virus is flying :-) Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 06:33:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:32:39 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Have thought to try a Waldorf Microwave XT? =m= Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >>dude you're a freak > >Correction: I'm a super-freak. > >Y'all: > >Which box is better at producing lush, gorgeous yet scary dark ambient pads? The Virus or the Supernova? Weird question to ask, I suppose, on a Virus list. I liked the Virus enough to buy one, but I heard a guy playing the SuperNova next to me and it was producing some incredibly lush dark ambient pads. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 06:36:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:36:15 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Why are you so bitter? =m= Thomas Whitmore wrote: >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >>From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) > >>>check out Logic Audio. > >>Or, better still, report the steps needed to recreate these bugs and then you'll know if anyone else can duplicate them. Hell, then they might even get fixed. > >Been there, tried that, Steinberg don't bother to respond. I actually went to substantial effort, which could have benefited them; now I wouldn't spit on a Steinberg employee if they paid me. > >As a professional software designer / developer, I identify numerous flaws in every part of Steinberg's design. This poor design means the product will *never* be good or reliable. > >I have more coarse things to say about Steinberg & employees. But luckily for my gentle readers I decided not to. > >Cheers, >Thomas > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 08:22:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:17:17 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From monokrom@sirius.com >Why are you so bitter? I find non-functional products and false advertising, to be offensive. Since I personally buy stuff, and personally communicate (well one way!) with tech support, I am personally offended. Seeing as you brought it up again : I liken Steinberg & employees to monkeys who s*ck themselves. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 09:23:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:23:37 +0200 From: Klaus Kessner X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: digest? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Klaus Kessner is there a digest version of this discussion list? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 09:30:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 03:28:28 EDT Subject: Re: Cubase To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com >>I find non-functional products and false advertising, to be offensive. Since I personally buy stuff, and personally communicate (well one way!) with tech support, I am personally offended. Seeing as you brought it up again : I liken Steinberg & employees to monkeys who s*ck themselves.<< I hear you. But I opted to buy Cubase over Logic because I wasn't going to reward anymore business to Emagic after their damn obnoxious copy protection scemes (can't install Sound Diver on Quadra), bug ridden Logic Audio Discovery software (which is so bad, I don't know if I will ever get my work mixed), totally false installation instructions (there is no install program, despite what is written), missing written documentation, flakey hardware (Audiowerk8, non functioning right out of the box), and their total lack support for the new G3 Macintoshs. I won't buy anything more from Steinberg either, I am boycotting all copy protected software from this point on. They can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. I send my support to the following: "Finale" (Music notation, midi control of synths) NO COPY PROTECTION "DeckII" (Multi-track recording) NO COPY PROTECTION "SoundEdit" (Waveform editting) NO COPY PROTECTION ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:00:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 08:56:32 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 6 May 1999 11:35:59 -0700, you wrote: >I mostly agree - I can usually notice very quickly when I am losing a voice in one of my pieces. But your explanation of the voice-stealing algorithm is I never lose voices; all my synths run in Single mode. ;-) Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:13:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 7 May 99 03:11:37 MDT From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: controllers Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Da Kid Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to be used with Access Virus? Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? thx. ziyue. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:33:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: IoS - Hannes Meder Organization: IoS GmbH To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: news from access? Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:18:40 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From IoS - Hannes Meder the virus is the second synth i got in deeper contact with (the first one was the alpha juno now used as midi-kb) and i couldn`t imagine a better way to get involved in this chapter of creating music! before i did only some tracker stuff and after that i tried to "compose" something by wav-editing. so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine bless god there's still something good in the world now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? greetings adrian if disease factory is on this list congratulations for your new album, too ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:47:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: controllers Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 02:44:49 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... >* From Da Kid > >Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >be used with Access Virus? >Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >thx. >ziyue. > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 12:12:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:45:12 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >I hear you. But I opted to buy Cubase over Logic because I wasn't going to reward anymore business to Emagic after their damn obnoxious copy protection scemes (can't install Sound Diver on Quadra), ??? >bug ridden Logic Audio >Discovery software (which is so bad, I don't know if I will ever get my work mixed), totally false installation instructions (there is no install program, >despite what is written), missing written documentation, flakey hardware (Audiowerk8, non functioning right out of the box), and their total lack support for the new G3 Macintoshs. -AW 8 works very well here (but itīs no Protools) -Total lack support for the new G3īs? This not true! They are supporting them with Logic 4.0. >I won't buy anything more from Steinberg either, I am boycotting all copy protected software from this point on. They >can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. This is your opinion. But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems. I also was working with Cubse for 3 years on the Atari and was quite satisfied. But when they went for audio-recording (on the Mac) I switched to Logic, because Logic does this much better. And I am still VERY satsfied with Logic. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 12:12:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:00:24 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Anig Browl wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > > >Christoph Kemper wrote... >>The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. > >I like this idea too, but I suggest you do not put it on the LFO rate LED. Already they are working to do LFO rate and input level, and I am usually very interested to watch what is going on with that. Why not flash some other LED, like the Saturation or transpose LEDs? This would give some information without giving up knowing about what the Virus is doing already. Its quite easy to switch the LED mode via sysex data and Logic Environment/Cubase Mixermap. On the other side - why not the saturation LED ..... Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:58:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:03:04 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" Good luck :-) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Elhardt@aol.com They >can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. I send my support to the following: > >"Finale" (Music notation, midi control of synths) NO COPY PROTECTION "DeckII" (Multi-track recording) NO COPY PROTECTION "SoundEdit" (Waveform editting) NO COPY PROTECTION ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 13:28:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:25:33 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine >bless god there's still something good in the world Thank you, thank you... even though I would call it "living the spirit of the internet" but it amounts to the same. Nice to get such positive feedback! > >now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:40:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:56:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:21 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 F. wrote: >>One last thing - for now - if you could have a 2nd Virus or a Supernova (in addition to the Virus you already own), which would it be and why? Does the Supernova really have no major strengths over the Virus? On the assumption that one Virus is enough in terms of voices and all that and that the Supernova does sound much different from the Virus, I would probably get the SN's smaller twin: the Nova as a second device... I guess it comes down to "more of the same" or "more variation". I like more variation. I usually use only one or two parts, sometimes more, of the Virus. So I would prefer another instrument which gives me a whole new range of sounds (does the nova?;) over another one of one I already own. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:41:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:59:47 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: digest? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:23 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 Klaus Kessner wrote: >* From Klaus Kessner > >is there a digest version of this discussion list? No, at this time there isn't, sorry. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 16:43:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:39:09 +0200 Organization: access music electronics To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Access vs. Waldorf X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >What exactly is the relationship between Waldorf and Access? Is > Waldorf merely a distributor for the Virus? Is Access is subsidiary of Waldorf? >>TSI is a distributor for Waldorf products. TSI also makes the Virus. >> They also share a Tech person. The whole truth in short form: Waldorf and access are two completely independent firms, though access is getting some technical support by Waldorf. TSI is the distributor for both of them and doesn't make any products. The manager of Waldorf is also the manager of TSI, which explains the strong relationship between Waldorf and TSI and why we got in contact with Waldorf when TSI became the distributor for access products. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 16:50:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:46:26 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Monokrom asked... >Why are you so bitter? I understand his bitterness. Cubase is a heap of crap (and I use it daily). It works most of the time, but it is full of obscure bugs, doesn't behave like a Windows program, and the timing sucks. I've spent 10 or 15 minutes working on something, closed a window and watched parts disappear one by one, beyond recovery. Their documentation is awful. Did I mention the timing? I used to use Cakewalk. I stopped because I installed a demo of a newer version and it threashed my older working version, so I just gave up on it and decided to try big shiny Cubase. BUT I never had the same timing glitches that I often get with Cubase, I've never lost any data, and it follows Windows conventions. Right now I'm deciding where Logic Audio is worth the learning curve and general visual ugliness or to go back to Cakewalk. I WANT to stick with Cubase because it has a lot of good design ideas and it's pretty fast to work in, but I don't want to deal with its illogical quirks. Sorry for the off-topic rant. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 17:05:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Virus + sampler To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. Thanks. - Frater _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 17:55:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:52:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an Well...I don't know if it can get for under $1000,- but I have a Yamaha A3000 and it is one hell of a great sampler! 3 Internal fx processors (finally a synth/sampler with a GOOD phaser!!!, superb filters, 4 mono outs...all as standard, no placing extra boards etc. You can expand it however with a board whoch gives you extra outs and dig. I have no need for it. Actually I only use left and right because of the 3 internal fxs...enough for me now. >effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. We did this some while ago, but there are probably lots of new members here. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 19:30:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 7 May 99 11:27:03 MDT From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Re: controllers] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Da Kid Oh, sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear... I was asking about a midi kb controller... since access virus is rackmount. thx. ziyue "Gerald Thomson" wrote: * From "Gerald Thomson" Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... >* From Da Kid > >Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >be used with Access Virus? >Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >thx. >ziyue. > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 18:00:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:57:44 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" A used S3000xl would be a good choice at around $850-900... Rick >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > > > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:15:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:13:48 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: controllers Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp If you're talking about a keyboard controller, whatever you [like | can afford | find | steal] will work. I'm poor, so I've got a Roland PC-200MkII (About $225US). It's only 49 keys, but has transpose buttons to shift up & down an octave, a pitch-bend/modulation stick, a jack for a sustain pedal, and a slider that you can assign to transmit any MIDI CC Data. There's no aftertouch, but it is velocity sensitive. The keys don't feel nearly as good as a nice weighted set, but they do work well and transmit predictable velocities. It's worked for me for about 2 years now without any trouble. If you're more into performance (I'm just learning to play) then I'd go with something like the A-30 to A-90 from Roland (or an equiv. from another company like Fatar, etc.) Where you can set up MIDI layers & splits as well as have more CC options... -zs >Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. >It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... > >>* From Da Kid >> >>Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >>be used with Access Virus? >>Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >>thx. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:18:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:16:40 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp nothing but positive energy here, folks... So do you go for a Philip Glass type of sound, or are you more into Yanni? And what is your opinion of Unicorns? Frogs sitting on lillipads wearing bonnets? Puppies? >>Why are you so bitter? > >I find non-functional products and false advertising, to be offensive. > >Since I personally buy stuff, and personally communicate (well one way!) with tech support, I am personally offended. > >Seeing as you brought it up again : I liken Steinberg & employees to monkeys who s*ck themselves. > >Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:27:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:25:31 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Keep your eyes open ... I got a 32MB Akai S3000XL (has 8 mono out + 1pr Stereo outs + 1pr Stereo in + SP/DIF input & output + SCSI) for $500. No FX, tho (that's what the Lex MPX-100 is for though!) I can't tell you how nice it is to have SCSI in a sampler though ... Akai makes a program for PCs and Macs that gives you a full-screen interface to all the inner workings of the sampler. Double click on a stored sample, and it will xfer to your computer and open in your favorite wave editor. Open upo programs and twist knobs on the screen while hearing the sound change. Brilliant! Does the Yamaha A3000 do SCSI? -zs >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. > >I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > >A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. > >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? > >Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. > >Thanks. > >- Frater > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ====================================================== ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:47:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:50:44 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I lose voices even in single mode. It's easy with Unison turned up to 12. Cam At 08:56 AM 5/7/99 GMT, you wrote: >I never lose voices; all my synths run in Single mode. ;-) > >Paul >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:58:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:01:42 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: [Re: controllers] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 11:27 AM 5/7/99 MDT, you wrote: >* From Da Kid > >Oh, sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear... I was asking about a midi kb controller... since access virus is rackmount. thx. >ziyue Unless you're really concerned about the feel of your keyboard, go cheap. Check out your computer store as well as music stores. I got a servicable keyboard as part of a "computer music" package at a computer store-- it came with a bunch of "learn to play piano" type programs which I threw out. They keyboard feels like the cheap piece of plastic crap that it is, but it works. And at the price I paid for it, I can afford to replace it if it breaks for less money than it would cost to repair a more expensive keyboard. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:46 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Paul Nagle wrote... >>I mostly agree - I can usually notice very quickly when I am losing a voice in one of my pieces. But your explanation of the voice-stealing algorithm is > >I never lose voices; all my synths run in Single mode. ;-) But as you pointed out the other day, this prevents you from doing certain things that are easy in multi mode. Ususally if I find any voice-stealing going on I just sample one of the static sounds and free up a voice or two on the Virus. Running in single mode all the time is boring, you're under-using the machine even if you use complete unison on everything. Plus it means bringing lots more units if you play live, doesn't it? Unless you use backing tracks, but that's not the real thing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: controllers Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:51 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Da Kid asked... >Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to be used with Access Virus? You can use anything that puts out MIDI. You could get a pecialist controller like a Fatar that allows you to map controllers to sliders etc., but that's kind of pointless given all the knobs the Virus has and its assignable controller options. I use an old Yamaha CS1x. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:52 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Raymund Beyer wrote... >This is your opinion. But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems. Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p Most demos suck because they won't let you save or give you proper documentation. When something has a learning curve like Logic Audio, I want to be able to use it for a few weeks instead of a few hours at a time. Logic (and many other sequencers are also way overpriced. For example, I don't use digital audio tracks very much at the moment - so why should I pay for it? Why can't I buy it as a separate module when I only want good MIDI timing and editing? Frankly I think most sequencers on the market suck - they all copy each others designs, they are all quirky, they all have poorly written documentation (I've written many manuals and also technical books for the general public, so I ought to know), and most of them have features that I am not very interested in using or paying for. Now for a demonstration of how it can be done, go to http:\\midiworld.com\aureality and check out Building Blocks. This is a kind of modular MIDI processor (Sorry, PC only, but they have screenshots there so go look anyway). It's fast, has relatively few bugs (current version is 1.1), great documentation including a development path for the next 2 or 3 versions, and one of the best interfaces I have seen. It's what the Logic environment ought to be and a lot more besides - if it had a patch librarian I would be in heaven. How much does this incredible software cost? $30. I know I am ranting a lot about this, but I have worked in the software industry for several years and the big sequencer programs do not impress me all that much. Their only advantage is that people are used to them and you can usually ask another user a question and get an answer. Big deal - that's no substitute for proper design, testing, documentation, and tech support. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:55 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Raymund Beyer wrote... >Its quite easy to switch the LED mode via sysex data and Logic Environment/Cubase Mixermap. On the other side - why not the saturation LED ..... Assuming you want to run everything from the computer all the time. Since the LFO LED performs two functions already I think it's pointless to load it further. Besides, how can I be sure that voice consumption flashing isn't the LFO when I'm using a square wave or something? I'd have to keep my eyes glued on it all the time to watch the consistency of the flash speed. Saturation makes more sense, plus it has a similar meaning since you could say the Virus CPU is saturated with instructions :-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:21:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 22:32:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >bug ridden Logic Audio Discovery software (which is so bad, I don't know if I will ever get my work mixed) You shouldn't judge Logic by that. My brother once bought Notator Alpha (Notator was the old program (for Atari ST) which is now called Logic). We couldn't even run it for more than two minutes, and the price was awfully high. But, as I said, don't judge Logic by that. Logic is worth every single penny I spent in it. There were some problems with a version for a couple of weeks, but excepting this nothing ever happened that would drive me to say anything different. And DON'T JUDGE LOGIC BY IT'S CRACKS. I know some guys who tried cracked versions - they don't run stable, and I think it's impossible to understand Logic without reading parts of its manual. But believe me: it's definately worth i! By the way: I hate software protection, too. I nearly lost two installations, just because I had to format my harddisk twice. Would like a dongle better. Sorry for the off-topic, Martin mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:35:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 22:33:09 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >>so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine >>bless god there's still something good in the world > >Thank you, thank you... even though I would call it "living the spirit of the internet" but it amounts to the same. Nice to get such positive feedback! > >> >>now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? > >Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). > >think different! > >Canine > > Hi ! Christoph told me at THE Meeting in Amsterdam about "something" new. But not what and not when.So, there is nothing offical like Canine(hello to you) said. we will see..... Maybe your deepest wishes come true... Stay Fresh J. W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:03:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:54:42 -0700 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: I went shopping for a friend... Cc: hwseq-list@teklab.com, a3k-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan And this is what I bought him: Access Virus Synthesizer Yamaha A3000 Sampler Yamaha RM1X Sequencer The beginnings of his new home studio... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:12:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:10:28 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Zack Steinkamp > >Does the Yamaha A3000 do SCSI? Standard. I've got a 2.1GB SCSI HD in the beast and just attached a SCSI CDROM player this week and works great! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:15:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:14:51 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >From all I hear (on the Akai List) I would recommend not to get an Akai. They used to be industry/studio standard for one reason or another but these days, apparently every other sampler is more user friendly, offers more features and everyone can load the Akai libraries anyways. The A3000 seems the sounddesigner's tool of choice, I don't know about its features but I heard it and it sounds great and i like the fx. Personally I use an old Ensoniq ASR-10 which I love (not for its maximum RAM of 16MB or its 8-part multitimbrality). It has a wonderful sound, and great effects that you can use to resample (oh, I know every sampler can do that nowadays...) and all that stuff... I like it. It sounds nice. The UI is ok (for early nineties). If you buy one, make sure the SCSI is installed since these boards are impossible to get these days... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:47:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:48:12 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Anig wrote: >Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p I took your advice and I broke into Guitar Center, where I have borrowed a Roland XP-80. It has some bugs in the sequencer module, so I have no intention of paying for it until I know they're going to fix it. By then, I might not even buy it, because there could be something better for me to buy. Come on! You can get Cubase or Logic for $300-500 in various configurations. If you can't spend the money, you can't play in the sandbox. >Logic (and many other sequencers are also way overpriced. For example, I don't >use digital audio tracks very much at the moment - so why should I pay for it? >Why can't I buy it as a separate module when I only want good MIDI timing and editing? Then buy Logic Audio Bronze or Silver with more limited Audio handling. Or Cubasis. Then when you decide you need the Audio, you can UPGRADE for a reasonable price. And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:50:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:51:46 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Defending the Akai, As an S3000xl user, I heartily recommend them. Great sample library support, affordable price point, easy user interface, and decent customer support. Sure, they misstepped with the S5000 with the first release, but I've been working with a friend's machine for a few weeks, and have found it to be amazing. Everything I liked about earlier Akais, and fixed all the frustrating parts. Akais have a wonderful transparent sound, and the filters on the 5000 are very nice sounding. It's just a different animal from the A3000 - which is a fine machine. I'm less of a fan of the E4xt: Sure it's powerful, but look at the screen on the S5000 - you'll never want to squint again. Just my two cents. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:49:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:53:10 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 01:54 PM 5/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >And this is what I bought him: > > Access Virus Synthesizer > Yamaha A3000 Sampler > Yamaha RM1X Sequencer > >The beginnings of his new home studio... Can I be your friend? Cam :) Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:00:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:08:14 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i dont use sampler , but everyone i know that does loves the older roland stuff or the new yamaha weld Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. > >I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > >A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. > >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? > >Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. > >Thanks. > >- Frater > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:14:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:08:55 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >>Does the Yamaha A3000 do SCSI? > >Standard. >I've got a 2.1GB SCSI HD in the beast and just attached a SCSI CDROM player this week and works great! cool ... are there any computer apps to control the A3000 via SCSI? -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:32:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:25:36 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 06:32 PM 5/7/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From WELD >any real friend i would of bought notron for!!!! : ) >sorry jay couldnt resist >weld Well, if I could find a local dealer here in Los Angeles that wasn't a complete and utter wanker (like the Guitar Center guys are)... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:23:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:32:01 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD any real friend i would of bought notron for!!!! : ) sorry jay couldnt resist weld Cam wrote: >* From Cam > >At 01:54 PM 5/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >>* From Jay Vaughan >> >>And this is what I bought him: >> >>Access Virus Synthesizer >>Yamaha A3000 Sampler >>Yamaha RM1X Sequencer >> >>The beginnings of his new home studio... > >Can I be your friend? > >Cam :) >Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:24:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:33:06 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD beware of the new akai jimbo they are very buggy, im on the akai mailing list for mpc support and see alot of complaints weld Jim B-Reay - WARE wrote: >* From Jim B-Reay - WARE > >Defending the Akai, > >As an S3000xl user, I heartily recommend them. Great sample library support, affordable price point, easy user interface, and decent customer support. Sure, they misstepped with the S5000 with the first release, but I've been working with a friend's machine for a few weeks, and have found it to be amazing. Everything I liked about earlier Akais, and fixed all the frustrating parts. Akais have a wonderful transparent sound, and the filters on the 5000 are very nice sounding. > >It's just a different animal from the A3000 - which is a fine machine. I'm less of a fan of the E4xt: Sure it's powerful, but look at the screen on the S5000 - you'll never want to squint again. > >Just my two cents. > >Jim > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:28:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:34:54 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD a super virus with a built in sampler, more knobs, analog seq would be the bomb weld Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > >K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: >> >>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >>>so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine >>>bless god there's still something good in the world >> >>Thank you, thank you... even though I would call it "living the spirit of the internet" but it amounts to the same. Nice to get such positive feedback! >> >>> >>>now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? >> >>Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >> > >Hi ! > >Christoph told me at THE Meeting in Amsterdam about "something" new. But not what and not when.So, there is nothing offical like Canine(hello to you) >said. > >we will see..... > >Maybe your deepest wishes come true... > >Stay Fresh > >J. W. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 12:13:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 01:06:34 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:48 PM +0200 on 07.05.1999 Jim B-Reay - WARE wrote: >And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. right on! I really like to strongly support this statement! On the other hand: I buy everything I use. But I pirate everything I want to try before I buy. It's just the way it works. Demos suck. Not being able to save things keeps you from coming back to a session later with fresh ears (or a fresh mind) and try to make the best of it then, something wich I find very essential with images and music (and most other creative things for that matter). Demos just don't do the job. But: if you have any sort of intention to publish your music (intellectual property) and get money for it, you should certainly own the sequencer (intellectual property) you are using to make that music... if not, you should not be able to sign any sort of contract with any sort of record company. right? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 05:40:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:37:13 EDT Subject: Re: Cubase To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Raymund Beyer) wrote: >>-Total lack support for the new G3īs? This not true! They are supporting them with Logic 4.0.<< Does this mean you can install/run it without a floppy dirve and ADB port (iMac doesn't have ADB if believe). Having to pay an additional $150 to $200 just to install their software is not acceptable. Last I heard, Emagic didn't give a damn. >>But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems.<< A) Most of the computer industry as a whole got rid of copy protection 15 or more years ago because of all the problems it causes. Haven't you noticed? B) I have purchased many thousands of dollars of software, non copy protected. C) I have written software that was marketed and wasn't copy protected. D) Most software in every other field except music is not copy protected. What is the problem with music related software companies? E) ***** I'm sure these music software companies wouldn't like every piece of software they own/use to be copy protected. How does a chain of dongles 20 feet long sound? It's idiotic. F) Dongles mean you have to purchase additional copies of their software if you want to run one copy at home,and another in the studio, or the sequencer on one computer the audio recording on another. At least some other types allow two installs. G) People who pirate software are not the ones who are boing to buy it anyway. No big monetary loss as they want you to believe. H) Hackers just crack the thing anyway. What kind of protection is that? I) If they would use printed manuals as opposed to Adobe Acrobat files, that would discourage some pirating. J) They are lossing money from people who don't want to buy copy protected software. Gigasampler just lost my business for this very reason. >>But when they went for audio-recording (on the Mac) I switched to Logic, because Logic does this much better. And I am still VERY satsfied with Logic.<< Basic functions like drawing envelops to automate mixing don't work properly in Audio Discovery (faders ignore the envolope or just make sporatic jumps and it takes several retries to get it to register), and they go through all the trouble for that pseudo-3D pitch vs time display and it doesn't even work correctly. None of this encourages upgrading to Gold or Platinum from a potential customer. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 08:13:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 8 May 99 00:12:14 MDT From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Generator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Da Kid since we are talking about softwares and stuff, has anybody used a software called Generator? I heard alot of good stuff about it.. also what about Gigasampler? Thx. Ziyue ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 09:35:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 07:30:01 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:46 -0700, "Anig Browl" wrote: >Running in single mode all the time is boring, you're under-using the machine even if you use complete unison on everything. Plus it means Define "under-using". I am very happy with the contribution the Virus makes and don't feel I have to use more parts just for the sake of it. I am not short of instruments and orchestrating is easier if you know each time you play something that is how it will sound throughout the composition process. This works for me. >bringing lots more units if you play live, doesn't it? Unless you use backing tracks, but that's not the real thing. I use a Nord Modular as my live "backing". And three other musicians. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 09:46:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 03:45:02 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore cubase has fopund away around the floppy authorizations... there is a passcode they give you.. it's a new version made especially for the new G3... believe me those companies give a damn! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 10:49:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:48:13 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. All for $1000? I bought one of my ASRs for under a grand - they're very quick to program, sound warmer than Akai, and the FX are good, but only 8 channels. Some people say the MIDI timing is not good... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 18:29:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:27:06 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Is it just me, or has this thread been completely off-topic for about the last dozen messages? - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 14:08:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:34:58 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:37 AM +0200 on 08.05.1999 Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >J) They are lossing money from people who don't want to buy copy protected software. Gigasampler just lost my business for this very reason. There was an ad in the music mags lately where it sadi that you could take Gigasampler home with you and test it (a real version, everything included) for about a week. I think this is a great way to show that "yes, we know cp sucks, but at least we give a damn". I don't know what I like better, key disks or dongles. An ADB dongle means you can't use Logic on a powerbook that has no ADB and if you lose or forget your dongle for a gig you are DOOMED... but software keys that evaporate when you speeddisk your HD are even worse. I haven't tried to defragment, but MAX tells you to absolutely uninstall the Key before attempting to use SpeedDisk or any defragmentation tool. I think this discussion doesn't really belong on this list, and frankly I don't believe it can be concluded once and for all. But I'd like to make a collection of pro and against statements for both, keydisk and dongle based copy protection to put it on the web. So please send me your ideas. Make them clear and concise please. I will edit them as little as possible and put it on the web for all to see... oK? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 19:31:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:26:37 EDT Subject: MIDI Channels To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Hi there. Is there any way to turn off the MIDI Receive of a certain channel in the Virus. I am sending drum data on channel 10 to a drum machine, and the rest to the Virus. I have turned the part-enable OFF for part 10 in the multi-program of the Virus (so no sounds will be heard), but it still shows a MIDI Note being received on part 10. Just currious. Thanks. p.s. - I only have 1 MIDI port out of the computer (I'm splitting to two outs from that 1 port), so I can't just select Port "A" to the Virus, and Port "B" to the drum machine, like I can do on my MPC3000 (I like to use my Cubase VST to compose with, so that's why I'm not just using the MPC). I hope all this makes sense. Thanks again. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 19:45:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 05:40:58 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From Elhardt@aol.com >I am boycotting all copy protected software from this point on. They can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. I send my support to the following: Yep... I spent two and a half hours, trying to get Logic's dongle to work. Turned out the 'dongle' was just a 9 pin - 9 pin connecting cable, the real dongle was hidden in cardboard packing at the bottom of the box. But I think usability and reliability are most important for me. On a mission, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 19:59:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 05:55:02 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >Right now I'm deciding where Logic Audio is worth the learning curve and general visual ugliness or to go back to Cakewalk. Climbing the learning curve from Cubase to Logic, is easy. I experienced it as downhill, things were so much easier to do... Particularly MIDI editing in the matrix (piano roll) window. Install a demo version of Logic, find how much fun making music without a save feature can be. :-) Have fun, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 20:51:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 06:46:44 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >nothing but positive energy here, folks... >And what is your opinion of Unicorns? Frogs sitting on lillipads wearing bonnets? Puppies? I think octopii and the colour purple make a nice combination. Really can't say why. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 21:06:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 07:02:10 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From Jim B-Reay - WARE >And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. Get your music out, get paid yourself, and pay your dues. There'll be money in your pocket at the end of the day. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:01:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:26:49 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: OT: Logic copy protection(was Cubase) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >(Raymund Beyer) wrote: >>>-Total lack support for the new G3īs? This not true! They are supporting them with Logic 4.0.<< > >Does this mean you can install/run it without a floppy dirve and ADB port (iMac doesn't have ADB if believe). Having to pay an additional $150 to $200 >just to install their software is not acceptable. Last I heard, Emagic didn't give a damn. As far as I heard on the Logic users list from Markus Fritze, all Logic versions will be installed from CD without the Floppy verification. So it should be no Problem to install it on new Macs (B&W or iMac). I donīt know what the uprade fee is in your country in Germany its about $150 for Platinum. I guess Silver might be the half. >>>But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems.<< > >A) Most of the computer industry as a whole got rid of copy protection 15 or more years ago because of all the problems it causes. Haven't you noticed? I did. But I never had problems with dongles. Also its possible to sell or buy copy protected software second hand (if its allowed in your country). >B) I have purchased many thousands of dollars of software, non copy protected. Sorry, but you know as good as I do, that those not copy-protected programs are copied by a lots of people..... This may damage a soware company. >C) I have written software that was marketed and wasn't copy protected. > >D) Most software in every other field except music is not copy protected. What is the problem with music related software companies? An interesting question I also allready thought about. Donīt have an answer jet. BTW: there is a lots of Shareware out there and its also copy proteced. I it was not, I wouldnīt have paid for it maybe.... >E) ***** I'm sure these music software companies wouldn't like every piece of >software they own/use to be copy protected. How does a chain of dongles 20 feet long sound? It's idiotic. No. I have 5 dongles hanging on my Mac in the studio and I donīt have any problem with that. >F) Dongles mean you have to purchase additional copies of their software if you want to run one copy at home,and another in the studio, or the sequencer on one computer the audio recording on another. At least some other types allow two installs. Or I take the dongle with me. I do this nearly 3 times a week, and lots of people I know do it too. Its only a problem of organizing yourself. >G) People who pirate software are not the ones who are boing to buy it anyway. No big monetary loss as they want you to believe. IMO this is wrong too. I know a lots of people that tried out software using a crack (I donīt want to exclude myself) and bought it later. >H) Hackers just crack the thing anyway. What kind of protection is that? But hackers donīt sell the software in a store and also not everyone knows where to get the stuff. Also cracks are sometimes not working as good as originales and mostly they are not upgradable. >I) If they would use printed manuals as opposed to Adobe Acrobat files, that would discourage some pirating. Yes. Emagic does this for this reason. >J) They are lossing money from people who don't want to buy copy protected software. Gigasampler just lost my business for this very reason. Iīm sorry, I still canīt get you. >>>But when they went for audio-recording (on the Mac) I switched to Logic, because Logic does this much better. And I am still VERY satsfied with Logic.<< > >Basic functions like drawing envelops to automate mixing don't work properly in Audio Discovery (faders ignore the envolope or just make sporatic jumps and it takes several retries to get it to register), and they go through all the trouble for that pseudo-3D pitch vs time display and it doesn't even work >correctly. None of this encourages upgrading to Gold or Platinum from a potential customer. Canīt say much about Silver (was Discovery). Have you upgraded frequently? I admit you use the PC version. AFAIK there has benn a lots of problems there in the past. Emagic told they rewrote the program complete for 4.0. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:01:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:45:30 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Anig Browl wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > >Raymund Beyer wrote... >>This is your opinion. But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems. > >Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p So what would you think if I took a part of one of your songs, loop it and donīt give you any copright? Or wasnīt it you the said that if somebody uses one of your sounds from Canines page on a record, he has to give you a credit on the cover? How would you feel if this happened? I think we all should have more respect to programmers that do software. They have to do their living from that as we have to do it from our music. >Most demos suck because they won't let you save or give you proper documentation. When something has a learning curve like Logic Audio, I want to be able to use it for a few weeks instead of a few hours at a time. Okay, thats wright. >Frankly I think most sequencers on the market suck - they all copy each others designs, they are all quirky, they all have poorly written documentation (I've written many manuals and also technical books for the general public, so I ought to know), and most of them have features that I am not very interested in using or paying for. > >Now for a demonstration of how it can be done, go to http:\\midiworld.com\aureality and check out Building Blocks. This is a kind of modular MIDI processor (Sorry, PC only, but they have screenshots there so go look anyway). It's fast, has relatively few bugs (current version is 1.1), great documentation including a development path for the next 2 or 3 versions, and one of the best interfaces I have seen. It's what the Logic environment ought to be and a lot more besides - if it had a patch librarian I would be in heaven. How much does this incredible software cost? $30. > >I know I am ranting a lot about this, but I have worked in the software industry for several years and the big sequencer programs do not impress me all that much. Their only advantage is that people are used to them and you can usually ask another user a question and get an answer. Big deal - that's no substitute for proper design, testing, documentation, and tech support. You might lots more than me about this. Why donīt you give us the new HyperCubaseLogic for $100? (Just a joke) I really donīt think anybody will be able to do so. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:01:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:53:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Anig Browl wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > >Saturation makes more sense, plus it has a similar meaning since you could say the Virus CPU is saturated with instructions :-) Wright! ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:03:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 07:58:30 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >Is it just me, or has this thread been completely off-topic for about the last dozen messages? No, it's just you... :-) Your subscription has been auto-transferred to the - 'which sequencer' - copy protection - 'I tried to toast my bread but the flame wars are too unpredictable' lists. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 01:53:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:53:33 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? Might be interesting to know what other people on this list are using... My under-the-bed (really!) studio: SCSI PC + Gina + Midiman Portman 2x4 + Cubase + Cool Edit Pro Access Virus - right in the middle 2 x Ensoniq ASR keyboards (10 MB + ZIPs) Alesis QS8 as master keyboard Yamaha VL-7, SY77, DX7II 2 little mixers (Mackie + Behringer) ElectroVoice RE20 mike (yes!) Old portable Aiwa DAT machine which switches itself off automatically (grrrr) JBL Control 1 monitors Though some of this gear is not considered "professional", the spec is actually great deal better than anything used for Sargeant Pepper's or even Dark Side of the Moon... food for thought, isn't it? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 01:48:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sun, 9 May 99 00:47:18 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" , "CHRISTOF KEMPER" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz CHRISTOF KEMPER wrote : >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? hi christof, this seems to be very useful.... but that brought me to another idea wich could be very handy and speedup the possibillity of even more different sounds compared to other v-a-synths: what if u could set a stepless quality of sound for each patch for the generating of the waves by degrading the samplerate and the bitrate independenty ? i mean,like there are some plugins (sonic decimator,or the mda-degrader..)? this could sound great (i tried it with just a saw,a pulse and sinus). if this could help to save cpu,maybe this parameter could allow even more voices than 12 (rack)? only a thought of me....:=) because this sometimes sounds VERY good (oizo is nr. 1 in media control charts ,germany!!) and i do this via plugin all the time.... regards,greetings and respect from good old stuttgart, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 10:45:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: juno106 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus hey.. i have heard that the virus can copy the 106... not perfect.. nto near perfect.. but it can copy it... i was just wondering if anyone has come up with a patch that is similar to the 106.... fo hell does anyone know what the 106 is???? ........ oh and... if u have a 106 for sale i would LOVE to take it off your hands =) -cyngus _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 18:08:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 09:04:29 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Kanou Ame wrote: >[...] HOWEVER it realy steps on my nerves to engage my whole setup that means my computer, my keyboard and that virus to HEAR something from the "red baron". [...] Why do you need to engage your computer in order to hear your Virus? I have all my music equipment on a single power switch, so the same switch that turns on my Virus will also turn on the controller keyboard. No computer needed. Within two seconds I'm playing. No sweat. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 16:05:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:02:17 +0200 (MEST) From: Kanou Ame To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: one button? X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.141] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kanou Ame hello access-list, hello access, i think you should - and i would be very very happy if you do it - insert the following option into a new os, perhaps v2.6 (?): i do realy love my virus. it s my lovely BABY! and i m programming each single sound by hand like canine does. it s amazing what you can do with that little machine, YES it is. so there s a little problem: sometimes in the morning or in the night i get this feeling to make a SOUND with my virus. so i do. HOWEVER it realy steps on my nerves to engage my whole setup that means my computer, my keyboard and that virus to HEAR something from the "red baron". so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you give us the option to press one single button on the virus (like store for example) to get a sound played. it should be possible to say how many voices and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), too. i do not mean anything like a step-sequencer! i am realy happy with my machine, its functionality and the os! so dont think i wanna critisize you! but i think it s better when i can turn the virus on and make a sound, you know??? what do you think? And please do NOT tell me i should buy that virus kb! hear ya, read ya, Kanou --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 17:36:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:33:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I like it! By the LED you can see how important it is to prevent the voice stealing. It sounds like a good 'debugging' tool for the music. You don't always want to 'debug' your music, so it's good te be able to turn it off again and use the leds for someting else. Dimitri. >This is a very good idea! >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. If the LED flashes dark, a stealing occured, but it is inaudible; nevertheless it indicates that no more polyphony should be added. >If the LED flashes bright, a 'hard' voice stealing happened, even if it might not be audible in a busy arrangement, but it has to be checked. In general, the behavior of the LED directly reflects the voice stealing situation, in time and amplitude. >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? > >Christoph Kemper >access music ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 17:40:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:37:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >>now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? >Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 18:36:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 18:32:40 +0200 (DFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Generator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz On 8 May 1999, Da Kid wrote: >since we are talking about softwares and stuff, has anybody used a software called Generator? I heard alot of good stuff about it.. At least i checked out the Demo version (runs 30min, comes with a limited amount of modules). I found a few sounds that i've never heared from the Virus. It has a tube amp distortion, which sounds just amazing (you play some cord and it sounds like a nicely distorted electric guitar - BTW, that would be great if the Virus could do this... :o). It also seems to cooperate quite solidly with Cubase (yes, Cubase on PC is crap, i've used it for many years, and today i use it mostly because i can't import *.ALL files into other software.) All in all, i dont think that i will ever buy the software - dont have to have everything... just my DM 0.3... Hagen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 19:19:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:15:03 EDT Subject: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Davidzzz@aol.com Hi, I am visiting New York City this week and Hoped to find some record stores that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. Any ideas?? thanks, David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 10:09:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:46:57 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! Access is listening! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 20:05:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:10:51 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD for used buys of anykind go to the amsterdam area of NY (behind tower records) \many used vinyl and cd shops weld Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: >* From Davidzzz@aol.com > >Hi, > >I am visiting New York City this week and Hoped to find some record stores that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. > >Any ideas?? > >thanks, > >David >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 21:06:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 12:09:41 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. At 04:02 PM 5/9/99 +0200, you wrote: >so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you give us the option to press one single button on the virus (like store for example) to get a sound played. it should be possible to say how many voices and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), too. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 22:05:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 21:28:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >- 'I tried to toast my bread but the flame wars are too unpredictable' ;-)) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 01:49:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#europa.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 16:48:01 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick Yes! This would be awesome, indeed. Pleasepleaseplease? -Marc At 12:09 PM 5/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Cam > >I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. > >At 04:02 PM 5/9/99 +0200, you wrote: >>so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you give us the option to press one single button on the virus (like store for example) to get a sound played. it should be possible to say how many voices and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), too. > >Cam >Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 02:47:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:43:48 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: how to make a new sound... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen If i get this right, for me to make a new sound on my virus, i get to select the begin patch (A-127 START), edit it till it sounds good and save it in another slot ? Or is there another way, that you can begin from scratch ? Just a question, as i now have my new working-desk setup in my room, i can finally begin to program sounds. Thanks, John Machielsen -- http://culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Please Help??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Metz If you listen to the Virus demo, the first thing that you hear is a choppy keyboard sound which is commonly found in techno music. Does anybody know how to make this effect? I don't think it is a delay......I would love to know how to make this sound!!!! Please help..... Thanks in advance... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 07:48:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:52:05 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: how to make a new sound... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam The START patch is about as close to "from scratch" as you get: it's a bare sawtooth wave, with no embellishments of any kind. Your only other option is to select another pre-made patch and mess with it until you get what you like. Cam At 02:43 AM 5/10/99 +0200, you wrote: >* From John Machielsen > >If i get this right, for me to make a new sound on my virus, i get to select the begin patch (A-127 START), edit it till it sounds good >and save it in another slot ? > >Or is there another way, that you can begin from scratch ? > >Just a question, as i now have my new working-desk setup in my room, i can finally begin to program sounds. > >Thanks, > >John Machielsen > Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Paul Nagle wrote... >I use a Nord Modular as my live "backing". And three other musicians. Ah...for some reason I was under the impression that you did everything solo and MIDI-ed to the gills...sorry for the mis-targetted argument. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Virus + sampler Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Howard Scarr wrote... >All for $1000? I bought one of my ASRs for under a grand - they're very quick to program, sound warmer than Akai, and the FX are good, but only 8 channels. Some people say the MIDI timing is not good... I have an ASR-X and the timing seems OK, although I don't use the sequencer that much so perhaps I've been lucky. I agree it sounds warmer than Akai and it's much easier to use than something the s2000 (spit). OTOH I played with a MPC for a while and liked it OK. I just hate Akai's operating system. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Thomas Whitmore wrote... >Get your music out, get paid yourself, and pay your dues. There'll be money in your pocket at the end of the day. I think that's very fair approach. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:10 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Raymund beyer wrote... >>Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p > >So what would you think if I took a part of one of your songs, loop it and donīt give you any copright? Or wasnīt it you the said that if somebody uses one of your sounds from Canines page on a record, he has to give you a credit on the cover? How would you feel if this happened? I'd be offended if you released such a track without crediting me, and I'd want to be paid something your track used a sample or sound of mine very heavily. OTOH if you used it on a demo or something I wouldn't mind very much. Please notice that I said I didn't want to pay the money until I was sure I wanted to produce music with it. I would not keep using the cracked version if I began selling tracks I made with it, then I would certainly pay. >I think we all should have more respect to programmers that do software. They have to do their living from that as we have to do it from our music. Sure - I have been ripped off by a book publisher before, it sucks. >You might lots more than me about this. Why donīt you give us the new HyperCubaseLogic for $100? (Just a joke) I really donīt think anybody will be able to do so. I won't complain too much about the price of a product that works really well and has good tech suport etc. etc. - the Virus is not a cheap synth but I feel I get great value for the money I paid. Many people feel the same way about ReBirth. But I am unhappy about products that create new problems for me to solve and slow down the music-writing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:13 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Jim B-Reay wrote... >I took your advice and I broke into Guitar Center, where I have borrowed a Roland XP-80. It has some bugs in the sequencer module, so I have no intention of paying for it until I know they're going to fix it. But you have stopped them from selling the XP-80 to anyone else. If I install a cracked copy of Logic to test out for a while nobody is actually losing money by that. If I like it and use it and make a record to release, then they get a sale. If I don't, then I throw it away to free disk space and it wasn't the product for me. Also one can do a pretty good test of a synth in the store which is not possible with software in most cases. >Come on! You can get Cubase or Logic for $300-500 in various configurations. If you can't spend the money, you can't play in the sandbox. If 'play' means testing it out and learning to use it (without benefit of manuals or tech support), then I believe I can. If you mean putting out music for release using those tools, I would agree with you. >Then buy Logic Audio Bronze or Silver with more limited Audio handling. And less MIDI capability as well from what I remember in their sales brochures. Also I can only get a demo of Logic platinum, not the lower versions so I can't test them by that route. >And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. Tech support does not always work, as a few users here have pointed out. Bugs should be fixed, not worked around, and a company that does not fix obvious or well-known bugs doesn't care very much about its customers. I think it is unethical to sell a flawed product, but many companies do so anyway. I don't think it's unethical to use it for non-commercial purposes, in the case of software, because there is no extra investment of resources in the cracked copy I test. And I am more likely to buy it if I can test it at length first. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:45:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Tomás Kejzlar To: Subject: Re: juno106 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:45:45 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?ISO-8859-1?B?VG9t4XMgS2Vqemxhcg==?= I owned Juno-106 and I tested it with Virus head to head. Pure oscilators sound very similar. Maybe there are some diferencies in Unison mode with strong resonance but i doesn't matter so much. My opinion was that Juno-106 was too poor and too overpriced in contrast with Virus. So my decision was to sold Juno-106 and to buy Virus. Tomás Kejzlar Electra Glide Project: http://www.space.cz/home/Electra_Glide The-R-Mix: http://thermix.webjump.com Both sites in czech language only!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyngus Cyngus To: Sent: 9. kvėtna 1999 10:51 Subject: juno106 >* From Cyngus Cyngus > >hey.. >i have heard that the virus can copy the 106... not perfect.. nto near perfect.. but it can copy it... i was just wondering if anyone has come up with a patch that is similar to the 106.... fo hell does anyone know what the 106 is???? ........ > >oh and... if u have a 106 for sale i would LOVE to take it off your hands =) > >-cyngus > > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 09:24:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" , Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:19:24 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >This is one of many variations of messages I get when I ask people to stop complaining about Cubase and tell me something specific. I sorted out my direct problem, by moving to Logic Audio. I am now very happy making music. I did contact Steinberg twice thru the NZ distributor, and never received any reply. The distributor was unable to explain why this was, other than that they might be busy. My assumption was that Steinberg knew about most of the problems, and were busy trying to ignore the clamour of complaints. Customer service? Hell no! Due to this snub, which I take as a personal insult because that is what it was, I do not care to assist Steinberg directly or indirectly thru you. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 11:08:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:21:03 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:45 AM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Tomás Kejzlar wrote: >I owned Juno-106 and I tested it with Virus head to head. Pure oscilators sound very similar. >Maybe there are some diferencies in Unison mode with strong resonance but i doesn't matter so much. >My opinion was that Juno-106 was too poor and too overpriced in contrast with Virus. >So my decision was to sold Juno-106 and to buy Virus. in the latest issue of Future Music they were hinting at an upcoming "retro synth" feature about hte 106. So at least for the UK, maybe it's time to buy now (if you need one) or wait before you sell (if you have one)... I think usually prices go up a bit after a large mag like that writes about vintage gear... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 10:27:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Re: controllers] Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:25:09 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Oh allright... Well... Don't know if I can recommend anything really. I have a cheap Evolution Mk-149 myself. But if you want something with aftertouch, it's gonna cost you bigtime! >Oh, sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear... I was asking about a midi kb controller... since access virus is rackmount. thx. >ziyue > >"Gerald Thomson" wrote: * From "Gerald Thomson" > >Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. >It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... > > > > > >>* From Da Kid >> >>Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >>be used with Access Virus? >>Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >>thx. >>ziyue. >> >>____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 10:44:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:41:21 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Could you make a small comment on how well the Virus will work when controlled from the RM1x? Does it record knob movements? Can it in any way compare to real sequncers, be they hard or soft? Thanks! >And this is what I bought him: > > Access Virus Synthesizer > Yamaha A3000 Sampler > Yamaha RM1X Sequencer > >The beginnings of his new home studio... > >:) > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 15:52:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:49:57 +0200 From: Stefan Nee X-Accept-Language: en To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Major hangup - Need help Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stefan Nee Dear Virusers & Access, Last night my virus completely freaked out. In the middle of a song it all of a sudden started doing the most horrifying and annoying sound (kinda like Jim Carrey in Dumb, Dumber). Since my little red friend didn't respond to anything, I restarted with the on/off button and it worked again.... for about 20 seconds, cause when I restarted the song it happened again. This time though, it didn't start again, even when switching the power on and off. I unplugged all cords but nothing happened. The display was lit, but there was no text and it didn't transmit any midi. I even tried to update the OS to 2.51 (I have 1.53 installed). It really appears to be completely wacked. Does anyone have any idea what has happened and what can be done to solve it. My setup: MAC G3 Unitor 8 Logic Audio Platinum 3.7.1 Thanks in advance /Stefan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:03:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Please Help??? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:01:15 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From John Metz If you listen to the Virus demo, the first thing that you hear is a choppy keyboard sound which is commonly found in techno music. Does anybody know how to make this effect? I don't think it is a delay...... I would love to know how to make this sound!!!! Please help..... Thanks in advance... There's no way to check how that sound in the Virus demo was made (it's not sent to MIDI out), but my guess is: Just take (or make) a sound with an organ-type envelope and record it! No special trick there... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:03:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Credit for sounds? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:02:08 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I'd be offended if you released such a track without crediting me, and I'd want to be paid something your track used a sample or sound of mine very heavily. OTOH if you used it on a demo or something I wouldn't mind very much. The only thing that would offend me is if somebody (other than myself) were to *sell* my sounds. If I didn't want my sounds to be free, then I wouldn't have posted them. Just my opinion... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:24:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:21:13 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM I've recently gotten a Microwave XT and am totally nuts about the parameter randomizer. Might the Virus get such an option? DTM. "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >>Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? > >Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! > >Access is listening! > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:47:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Esabuc@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:44:53 EDT Subject: Re: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Esabuc@aol.com In a message dated 5/9/99 1:09:44 PM, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: <that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. >>> Go to OTHER MUSIC...it's right across the street from Tower, on Broadway and 4th St. Small store but a great selecion and the staff really knows their stuff. If your into the Dn'B thang check out BREAKBEAT SCIENCE on 9th St. Hardly any CDs but a good vinyl selection. Kim's on St. Marks Street I've found to have the best used electronic section discs range from 5-9. Later Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 17:06:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:10:09 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Major hangup - Need help Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam >switching the power on and off. I unplugged all cords but nothing happened. The display was lit, but there was no text and it didn't If the display was lit when you unplugged the power cord, then your Virus is probably posessed by the devil. Kick ass! Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 19:29:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: winne.toe@wxs.nl To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:21:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From winne.toe@wxs.nl unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 19:37:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:29:34 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 01:41 AM 5/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From "Gerald Thomson" Could you make a small comment on how well the Virus will work when controlled from the RM1x? It's a dream come true. Such an excellent combination of tools, imho. >Does it record knob movements? Yes, indeed, it certainly does. >Can it in any way compare to real sequncers, be they hard or soft? > The RM1X is a real sequencer. Software sequencers are not real. (I'm a hardware sequencer fan, having abandoned the crash-prone and angst-laden world of computers when it comes to making music ...) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 20:50:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:47:11 +0200 (MEST) From: Kanou Ame To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: one button? X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.141] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kanou Ame Ronald wrote: >Why do you need to engage your computer in order to hear yourVirus? I have all my music equipment on a single power switch, so the same > switch that turns on my Virus will also turn on the controller > keyboard. No computer needed. Within two seconds I'm playing. No > sweat. Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? i also think that you should not make this idea down! i think it s a little little new function and someone who does not need it shall not use it! so i think like Cam: >I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in > front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, >carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out > there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. and thats what i mean! you will be able to take your little virus with you perhaps to your girl-friend, plug in and make a nice ambient arp live-act! or think that u got a nice small studio with your friends. so one man is programming or playing with that damn masterkeyboard and u want to create new sounds with your virus. you power the machine on, take your headphones and start INFECTION! so christoph what do you think? and what does canine and the other list-members think? it s a small and i realy think easy new code to the os and nobody MUST use it! Kanou --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:06:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:04:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Frater Y2K-- Have you purchased your sequencer yet? If not, I STRONGLY recommend considering an Akai MPC2000. Its got a great sampling engine in it, as well as a serious sequencer and those lovely vel. sens. drum pads. Two MIDI ins, two MIDI outs,-- I got mine used WITH the effects card, 8-output expander (plus there's the two maiun outs) SMPTE reader & generator PLUS an effects card and the 32 Meg SIMMS memory for $1400 used. The base model (no FX, SMPTE or 8-outs) sells new for under $1200. Each qption runs about $250 new, but there not uncommon to find used. The only misfortunes I've had using the MPC with the virus are: a) The MPC is set up like a drum machine, with 16 vel sens pads for playing notes. The bad thing is, the MIDI note numbers assigned to these pads are'nt automatically scaled like a piano keyboard-- they're a little bit random. I think, though, there's a way to re-assign them so that they are layed out more like pitched keys. (The Ensoniq ASR-X, kind of an MPC clone, has its pads assigned and positioned like an octave on a keyboard.) b) The MPC has a limit of 1000 SysEx messages that can be loaded into its sequencer-- That's more than enough to load and save individual Virus patches, but sadly it can't handle loading O.S, updates. If you want, I could rattle on infinitely about how great the MPC is. On Fri, 7 May 1999, Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > > >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. > >I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > >A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. > >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? > >Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. > >Thanks. > >- Frater > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 05:16:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:14:57 +0000 From: John Metz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Opinion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Metz On the debate of Cubase, I love the nice layout, attractive colors, and intuitive design. Cubase has a lot of positive qualities, but I HATED the lack of ability to organize patches. YES, I had Galaxy but it still didn't allow me to categorize my patches as well as Performer or Vision does. If Cubase would change that fact, I would switch back in a heartbeat. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:23:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:22:36 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: track Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! I've put a new track online. It's a Dnb workout and my Virus is all over the place. It's not entirely finished yet (needs some editing and mastering), but I really want some feedback, cos I'm not what I feel of it myself at this stage. (i've worked too long at it i guess). It's here: http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/carved.mp3 Thanks a lot for your feedback on forehand! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:29:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: how to make a new sound... Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:25:16 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" John Machielsen asked... >If i get this right, for me to make a new sound on my virus, i get to select the begin patch (A-127 START), edit it till it sounds good and save it in another slot ? > >Or is there another way, that you can begin from scratch ? Well there is nothing special about 'Start' - it's just not very complicated. If you are new to the Virus then you will probably learn a lot from altering existing sounds, so that you get to knowe the different parts of the synth engine quite well, and be able to predict how something will sound. Once you have that you can just go up to the Virus any time and on any patch and just set everything the way you want to and carry on from there. However it is pain to go into all the menus and stuff if you need to switch off LFO or assign settings, so sometimes it's easier to just jump to the 'Start' patch. Here's a simple and easy way to make this really quick: work in multi-single mode most of the time. Leave the Single mode patch as 'Start'. When you want to design something new, hit the Single button and just begin designing your sound, save it somewhere, go back into multi-single mode and just assign it to a channel. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:29:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: how to make a new sound... Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:25:19 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Cam wrote... >The START patch is about as close to "from scratch" as you get: it's a bare >sawtooth wave, with no embellishments of any kind. Your only other option is to select another pre-made patch and mess with it until you get what you >like. Actually it does have a negative Time factor on the amp envelope, so Start sounds won't sustain until you reset that. This used to get up my nose until I remembered to save it (I like to hold down a key and tweak for several minutes at a time usually...I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:29:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:29:05 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list , dbreakz Subject: sorry! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! I totally forgot my webserver has some strange MIME problem. The MP3 gets f*cked up completely. I've been through this before, but I forgot. Sorry again. I'll fix it ASAP. Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:41:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "J Remmen" To: Subject: Re: one button? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:39:40 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "J Remmen" this idea would simply rule, when i first got my virus i was hoping that that feature was already there, but it didnt disappoint me that it wasnt ----- Original Message ----- From: Kanou Ame To: Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 11:47 AM Subject: re: one button? >* From Kanou Ame > >Ronald wrote: > >>Why do you need to engage your computer in order to hear yourVirus? I have all my music equipment on a single power switch, so the same > >switch that turns on my Virus will also turn on the controller > >keyboard. No computer needed. Within two seconds I'm playing. No > sweat. > >Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? > >i also think that you should not make this idea down! i think it s a little little new function and someone who does not need it shall not use it! > >so i think like > >Cam: > >>I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in > >front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, >>carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out > >there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. > >and thats what i mean! you will be able to take your little virus with you perhaps to your girl-friend, plug in and make a nice ambient arp live-act! > >or think that u got a nice small studio with your friends. so one man is programming or playing with that damn masterkeyboard and u want to create new sounds with your virus. you power the machine on, take your headphones and start INFECTION! > >so christoph what do you think? >and what does canine and the other list-members think? > >it s a small and i realy think easy new code to the os and nobody MUST use it! > >Kanou > > >--- >Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:57:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:55:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: one button? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt WOuldn't it be cool if you could change the picth of the sound while it's playing with +/- buttons? --- Marc Visnick wrote: >* From Marc Visnick > >Yes! This would be awesome, indeed. >Pleasepleaseplease? > >-Marc > >At 12:09 PM 5/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >>* From Cam >> >>I like this idea. It would allow me to design new >sounds sitting in front >>of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right >now, carrying my keyboard >>and extra cables and extra power supplies out there >with my Virus is too >>much of a pain in the ass. >> >>At 04:02 PM 5/9/99 +0200, you wrote: >>>so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you >give us the option >>>to press one single button on the virus (like >store for example) to >>>get a sound played. it should be possible to say >how many voices >>>and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), >too. >> >>Cam >>Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free >service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. >The FAQ for this list is >>available from >http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 22:44:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:46:46 +0200 From: Ernest Bruggeman Subject: Re: sorry! To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ernest Bruggeman Hey. Nu ik me dankzij Annick weer wat beter voel (...) zal ik je ook weer vaker lastigvallen.....:) Deze keer dacht ik aan domeinnamen: binaural.nl is op dit moment nog beschikbaar. Nog wel. Zou registreren niet slim zijn? Ook mbt de toekomst wellicht? (Wat de toewijzing van namen in de toekomst ook gaat worden, een blitse domeinnaam "uit de begintijd" zal zeker een pre zijn en zijn waarde behouden!!) Wie weet of je in de toekomst een eigen bedrijf of zoiets in een blitse branch (AV) krijgt, dan is zo'n naam wel grappig. Ga misschien zelf ook nog wel 's iets registreren.... "djong" (uit www-adres onder aan pagina) is wellicht ook wel een leuke naam ergens voor.... doei! -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jasper de Jong Aan: access list ; dbreakz Datum: maandag 10 mei 1999 22:05 Onderwerp: sorry! >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >I totally forgot my webserver has some strange MIME problem. The MP3 gets f*cked up completely. I've been through this before, but I forgot. > >Sorry again. I'll fix it ASAP. > >Bye >jasper >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 06:32:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:31:20 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? Route the JD800 midi out to the Virus midi in. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 23:47:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:55:08 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: randomizer parameter Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD yes christoph please add this, ask canine what is does to my pulses!!!! weld DTM wrote: >* From DTM > >I've recently gotten a Microwave XT and am totally nuts about the parameter randomizer. Might the Virus get such an option? > >DTM. > >"K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: > >>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >>>Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? >> >>Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! >> >>Access is listening! >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:00:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:01:56 +0200 From: Ernest Bruggeman Subject: Re: sorry! To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ernest Bruggeman And sorry to the members of the list. I hit Outlooks button! Ooops..... How stupid. Da##%(@#_@! -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Ernest Bruggeman Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: maandag 10 mei 1999 23:34 Onderwerp: Re: sorry! >* From Ernest Bruggeman > >Hey. Nu ik me dankzij Annick weer wat beter voel (...) zal ik je ook weer vaker lastigvallen.....:) >Deze keer dacht ik aan domeinnamen: binaural.nl is op dit moment nog beschikbaar. Nog wel. Zou registreren niet slim zijn? Ook mbt de toekomst wellicht? (Wat de toewijzing van namen in de toekomst ook gaat worden, een blitse domeinnaam "uit de begintijd" zal zeker een pre zijn en zijn waarde behouden!!) Wie weet of je in de toekomst een eigen bedrijf of zoiets in een >blitse branch (AV) krijgt, dan is zo'n naam wel grappig. Ga misschien zelf ook nog wel 's iets registreren.... > >"djong" (uit www-adres onder aan pagina) is wellicht ook wel een leuke naam ergens voor.... > >doei! >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Jasper de Jong >Aan: access list ; dbreakz Datum: maandag 10 mei 1999 22:05 >Onderwerp: sorry! > > >>* From Jasper de Jong >> >>Hi! >> >>I totally forgot my webserver has some strange MIME problem. The MP3 gets f*cked up completely. I've been through this before, but I forgot. >> >>Sorry again. I'll fix it ASAP. >> >>Bye >>jasper >>-- >>jsdejong@wxs.nl >>http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong >> >>OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 __________________________________________________________________________ _ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:33:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:27:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:47 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Kanou Ame wrote: >so christoph what do you think? >and what does canine and the other list-members think? > >it s a small and i realy think easy new code to the os and nobody MUST use it! since you addressed me personally I thought about it and I found that I don't dislike the idea at all! I very often play out live where the virus is little more than a neat looking Delay/Distortion/Filter Box for a Minidisk and a drummachine. I usually don't bring a midikeyboard since that would be too biug to carry (try fitting that in a backpack). So being able to fire off a sound with the Virus (then pressing "hold") to keep the sound would be most excellent! Christoph: let's do it! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:33:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:28:36 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: randomizer parameter Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:55 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 WELD wrote: >yes christoph please add this, ask canine what is does to my pulses!!!! weld yes and what it did to my pulse when I listened to welds pulses! Great! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:33:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:32:40 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: OT MPC 2000 (was Re: Virus + sampler) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Before getting an MPC 2000 please make sure you check out the website at: http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~tr-909/MPC2000e.html to make sure you understand where the MPC 2k is, where it will be and most important where it won't be going. It has some great features and it has some great quirks. If you like the features and can live with the quirsk (like I guess I can) it's simply awesome. If you think too much about all the things that went wrong with this machine (several users on the Akai list are contemplating a class action suit against Akai for misleading advertisement. Although this is about the S5000/6000, a lot (and I mean A LOT) of MPC users have had their share of Akai mess), you might start to hate it. Just make absolutely sure you know what you are getting into. Make sure you know what it can't do... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:31:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:39:53 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD more vi 2 ideas: 3 oscillaotors per patch, one special oscillator able to select from 1000's of spectral waves, or samples???? oberhiem 4 voice style multi mode, so every key press induces a new sound, you could rotate between 2 ,4 or 8 sounds??? subel , minuscule or drastic changes aforementioned random mode, press one butoonand get a new random sound. NO EFFECTS PLEASE weld K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >>Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? > >Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! > >Access is listening! > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:45:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:46:24 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:39 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 WELD wrote: >NO EFFECTS PLEASE oh but of course we need some effects: distortion, delay, flanger/chorus/phaser and stuff like that. Dn't bother adding reverb unless you licence it from the likes of Lexicon.. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 01:16:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:24:23 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT MPC 2000 (was Re: Virus + sampler) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD dont forget the ol mpc 60's guys, you can updrade these to scsi and the last mpc3000 system software, they are built like a tank. here in the staes you can find em al all ove rthe place for 700-800$ and i like mine so much i almost always use this computer just for email now weld K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Before getting an MPC 2000 please make sure you check out the website at: > >http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~tr-909/MPC2000e.html > >to make sure you understand where the MPC 2k is, where it will be and most important where it won't be going. > >It has some great features and it has some great quirks. If you like the features and can live with the quirsk (like I guess I can) it's simply awesome. If you think too much about all the things that went wrong with this machine (several users on the Akai list are contemplating a class action suit against Akai for misleading advertisement. Although this is about the S5000/6000, a lot (and I mean A LOT) of MPC users have had their share of Akai mess), you might start to hate it. Just make absolutely sure you know what you are getting into. > >Make sure you know what it can't do... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 01:27:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:25:39 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 01:29:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:27:40 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >At 12:39 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 WELD wrote: >>NO EFFECTS PLEASE > >oh but of course we need some effects: distortion, delay, flanger/chorus/phaser and stuff like that. Dn't bother adding reverb unless you licence it from the likes of Lexicon.. agreed ... delay especially is a no-brainer and really doesn't vary much from one manufacturer to another (the algorithm couldn't be simpler). I love the fact that I don't have to use the delay in my Lex MPX-100 (my only FX processor at the moment) and instead can have perfect clock-synced delay just with the V. Flanger and chorus have a *bit* of variation from piece to piece (I can tell a diff between my Virus' chorus and my MPX-100's "Rich Chorus"), and the distortion in the V is perfectly acceptable, but you're right in leaving the 'verb to the pros. Keep on Truckin! zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 02:37:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:45:45 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD they trade it in and by a virus : ) W Herb Ivore wrote: >* From Herb Ivore > >i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 04:40:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Cc: "Access List" Subject: Re: OT Cubase Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:35:17 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Paul, >So the problem might be your distributor for all you know? The distributor confirmed that he'd sent my mail (twice) to Steinberg. >They may not even know you exist. Maybe not, but I'm still influencing people away from Cubase... Maybe one conversion a month? Heh heh. >I really am sorry you feel this way but I can tell you I have been happily making music (including 6 CD releases) using Cubase (PC) for a long time. The key to getting it working well is a well-tuned PC system, good soundcard, good MIDI card and drivers - but if you're happy now and have made no system changes then Logic obviously suits your system better. My problem was neither audio or MIDI unreliability. The issues were nothing to do with my system, but the poor quality of Steinberg's design and implementation. Key problems with Cubase were ease of use : mouse-hand overload selecting from the toolbox, and awkward MIDI programming / editing. MIDI program settings by part / track had severely flawed design, and program change chase was badly broken. >I do get frustrated when reading constant "Cubase is crap" postings by people who never go on to substantiate this. Especially as the VERY SAME program works so well for me. The VST technology is better than the MIDI sequencing. If audio was what you were doing, you might have not had too many problems. But sequencing is a *rather* important part of a sequencer package. >So what is different - not the program but the ENVIRONMENT. Nope, not correct. >Please note: I did not post this (off-topic) mail to the Virus list, as I also did not with the previous one. Yeah, but I did. Lots of frustrated people are listening out there. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 04:46:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 04:44:09 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hey, >one special oscillator able to select from 1000's of spectral waves, or samples???? This is a very good idea !!! I'd love to see an Access synth using samples as well ! Or wouldn't it be great yo see a fully-featured Acces Sampler, that would beat all the Akai and Emu samplers ?! Imagine the filters of the Virus, used in a sampler,... I can only dream of it... On the other hand: I think Access will be much more creative than the things we're suggesting. ;) Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 06:06:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: annwn@zipcon.net Date: 10 May 1999 21:02:18 -0700 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe annwn@zipcon.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From annwn@zipcon.net unsubscribe annwn@zipcon.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 07:29:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Tomás Kejzlar To: Subject: Re: juno106 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:29:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?B?VG9t4XMgS2Vqemxhcg==?= NO!!! No kidding men. Actually I did it. And I sold my MS-20 too. Tomás Kejzlar Electra Glide Project: http://www.space.cz/home/Electra_Glide The-R-Mix: http://thermix.webjump.com Both sites in czech language only!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bilbo Bagginz To: Sent: 11. kvėtna 1999 11:16 Subject: Re: juno106 >* From Bilbo Bagginz > > > >Herb Ivore wrote: > >>* From Herb Ivore >> >>i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >>what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? > >Er, sell them and buy Viruses? > >Just kidding! > >Bilbo Bagginz > >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > >-- >http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 08:05:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:09:32 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: OT Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam >Yeah, but I did. Lots of frustrated people are listening out there. And lots more people who don't give a shit about the ancient Cubase Vs. Logic debate. There's a Cubase mailing list. Use it and quit bogging down the *ACCESS VIRUS* list. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 16:15:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:12:48 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Anig Browl wrote: >I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you Marc Adler wrote: >I use guitar picks btwn the keys :) I use the Keymode/HOLD feature on the Control menu. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:07:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler + more wants... Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:02:51 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 10 May 1999 15:04:16 -0400 (EDT), Aaron E Havill wrote: >If you want, I could rattle on infinitely about how great the MPC is. Not necessary for me, at least on this list. If it had six MIDI ports it might be do the job I need but until such features are available in a hardware sequencer I'll stick to my (very reliable) Cubase. And, since this is a _Virus_ list, my wish (and there just a few left) for a future addition would be the ability to re-specify all the controller numbers. The JP8000 can do this and it makes it easier to remember all the numbers if they are the same as other synths you already own. Would only need to be done once so I don't mind a complicated menu option for it or even an external program. Hmmm, OK, and I'd like the ability to change the sub-oscillator waveform to sawtooth. And to detune it. I wouldn't mind if this reduced polyphony either since I expect the DSP load would probably be higher (?). Now I'm on the subject... I really miss seperate levels for each oscillator rather than the oscillator balance knob. And the Oscillator "level" seems a wasted option too since it is always at maximum (12 O''clock and over). And, since I (personally) always set that extra envelope stage (sustain level?) to '0', I'd like to re-assign the one for env1 to "velocity map to filter" and the one for env2 as "velocity map to output stage" (I find this invaluable on my Microwave XT). And I don't mind relabelling it myself. Oops... I'll stop now... ;-) But actually if nothing else were ever added I'd _still_ be content. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: softroom@btinternet.com web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:52:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:21 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:25 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. Any other ideas? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:52:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:38:51 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:07 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 Bilbo Bagginz wrote: >I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. > >Rant over, > >Catchalata, >Bilbo Bagginz (cured ex- equipment junkie) Word up. It's always good to be reminded by someone to finish first, then venture on... I find it a good excercise to visit a friend in their studio and bring only one single piece of gear (my Virus or my sampler). Then I have to stick to that machine most of the day which really makes me think about how to do something that I normally would use another machine. This is pushing the limits and getting to know your gear better. Invaluable in my opinion! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:45:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:43:16 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Thanks! I now know what to save up for! >At 01:41 AM 5/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >>* From "Gerald Thomson" Could you make a small comment on how well the Virus will work when controlled from the RM1x? > >It's a dream come true. Such an excellent combination of tools, imho. > >>Does it record knob movements? > >Yes, indeed, it certainly does. > >>Can it in any way compare to real sequncers, be they hard or soft? >> > >The RM1X is a real sequencer. Software sequencers are not real. > >(I'm a hardware sequencer fan, having abandoned the crash-prone and angst-laden world of computers when it comes to making music ...) > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 03:11:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:07:35 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Has anyone else noticed that the modulation matrix (assign page) in the Virus is unpredictable with certain parameters? e.g try setting lfo 1 to modulate filter env decay or attack, amount + or - 64 and yes, the env amount is on full for filters 1 and 2. And just plain doesn't seem to work with some others. e.g lfo 1 to uni spread + or - 64 In the first case I would expect the filter env to be modded the same as when I grab the knob pertaining to the parameter and twist it back and forth over it's whole range or at least half of the range (+ or - 64) This doesn't happen, there is a small amount of mod. though as I said not as much I expect. In the second case, I'll be buggered if I can hear anything happening to the sound at all, in terms of changing stereo spread despite much experimentation changing the value of the uni spread parameter saved with the patch. I have found a few other parameters which didn't act in the way I would expect. The problem mainly being not much in the range of modulation available. As far as new features for the Virus goes, I would rather the energy went into finishing the features in the present one And as for the conversation about mythical Virus 2, I can't see why anyone would want to be thinking about creating/desiring/buying another machine when we have not even begun to explore the sonic potential of this incredible machine yet. Unless they were chronically addicted to consumerism. IMO The Virus is one of the best, if not the best designed fixed archtecture virtual analogue synths presently in existence. (I used a Waldorf Q to co-write a track last week in my studio and was surprised to find that I preferred the sound of the Virus.) The interface of the Virus is so stunningly well thought out in that it's very easy to use fast. Which is paramount when actually making music. I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. Rant over, Catchalata, Bilbo Bagginz (cured ex- equipment junkie) -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 03:20:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:16:39 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Herb Ivore wrote: >* From Herb Ivore > >i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? Er, sell them and buy Viruses? Just kidding! Bilbo Bagginz >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 11:41:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: IoS - Hannes Meder Organization: IoS GmbH To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Re: Major hangup - Need help Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:19:02 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From IoS - Hannes Meder < To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: Making keys stick Date: 11 May 99 03:30:39 -0800 X-ID: 3481BD81071211D39CA900105AC9AC89 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Adler I use guitar picks btwn the keys :) >** Original Subject: Making keys stick >** Original Sender: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" ** Original Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:21 +0200 >** Original Message follows... > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 9:25 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >>.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). > >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... > >A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. > >Any other ideas? > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Download Neoplanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 18:55:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:41:51 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: LONG: list manners Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi everyone, some of the Macintosh users on this list may have read this before but I'd like to post this anyways to make it known. I don't agree with every word adam writes but most of the things he says really do make sense. the following article appeared in the Macintosh weekly newsletter TidBITS and can be found at the following URL: please read it, think about it and pass the URL on to others. Mailing List Manners 101 ------------------------ by Adam C. Engst It's no secret that I'm a huge fan of mailing lists. I both subscribe to and operate a number of lists on many topics, and I spend much of my day communicating professionally and personally in these discussion groups. And yet, I'm troubled by behaviors I see in most lists. Many people pay little attention to spelling, grammar, and the basic composition of their messages, post pointless notes, and bulk up replies by quoting complete originals and appending huge signatures. How you write in email - especially in public places like mailing lists - affects how other people regard you, your opinions, and your knowledge. Think of it this way: if mailing list messages were a reflection of personal hygiene, you don't want to come across to others like you need a shower, clean clothes, and a haircut. Here then are the main behaviors that I would encourage for all mailing list participants. If you're as bothered by the problems in mailing lists as I am, feel free to refer others to this article for advice. You can link to it permanently at this URL: **Write Carefully** -- I realize that I risk sounding like a pedant here, but in cases like this, I don't care. Writing skills in the general Internet populace stink, which means you can make yourself look even more intelligent and thoughtful than you are by writing well. Good writing isn't difficult, and requires only grammatical sentences and proper spelling. You don't need to be a professional writer or be able to make words flow trippingly off the tongue. You should also follow a few basic rules when writing email: * Don't use all capital letters for more than a word. * Insert a blank line between paragraphs. * Surround URLs with angle brackets to avoid problems at line breaks. * Don't use text styles (like bold or italic) or text colors in mailing list messages, since many people won't see them and may even see HTML tags instead. **Quote Sparingly** -- One of my peeves with mailing lists is that people seldom delete unnecessary quoted text in their replies, with the worst being people who reply to a message in a digest and quote the entire digest. Quoting sparingly does require manual work, since most email programs automatically quote the original message in replies. But failing to edit the original wastes everyone's time and bandwidth. In some email programs, you can select some text in the original message, press a keyboard shortcut, and have only that text appear quoted in the reply. (Eudora for the Macintosh does this with its Command-Shift-R shortcut.) Other email programs assume that replying with some original text selected means you want to quote only that text. Especially problematic are email programs that quote an original message by appending it to the bottom of the reply with no quote marks in front of each line. That prevents inline replies, since there's no easy way to differentiate original and new text, so users of those programs tend to leave the entire original hanging off the end of the reply. That's fine in private messages, but in mail destined for a list, it's just sloppy. Unfortunately, the only solution to this problem is to switch to a different email program **Avoid Junk Messages** -- Another complaint about people's behavior on mailing lists revolves around "junk" messages. I'm not talking about spam, since spammers aren't constructive members of a mailing list. Instead, junk messages fall into the following categories: * Unsubscribe messages mistakenly sent by subscribers who didn't read (or locate) the instructions for leaving the list. Every list goes to lengths to simplify the process of signing off, and yet a large number of people still send unsubscribe messages to the list itself. Read and save the welcome message you receive when you subscribe to a list, then refer to it when you want to unsubscribe. * Me-too posts sent by well-meaning list members replying only to convey that they agree with a message or had a similar experience. A Web-based poll is a better way to take votes on a topic. * Welcome messages that appear when someone new joins the list. No one on a mailing list needs to read "Glad to have you on the list!" from everyone; send such messages to the new member in private mail. * Congratulation messages that appear after a member of the list has mentioned some milestone or personal triumph. Again, send these in private email. The moral of the story is simple: Avoid sending junk messages to a list. They're easy to identify as you type - just ask yourself if the message would be of interest to the majority of the mailing list. If not, that doesn't mean your message is worthless: the original sender might appreciate being welcomed or congratulated via private email. **Write Descriptive Subjects** -- When you receive messages from a mailing list, the first thing you see is the subject line. Which of these subject lines would you rather see on a mailing list devoted to, say, tropical fish? >wondering >Recommendations for fish that can live with cichlids Unless your telepathic powers are better than mine, the first subject line tells you nothing. So, the first rule of subject lines is to make them descriptive. Another problem affects primarily digest readers. They see an interesting message and want to reply, but when they do so, their email program uses the subject line of the digest (Tropical Fish Digest #251) rather than the subject of the message. That leads to messages being sent to the list with useless subject lines, since the title of the digest is rarely descriptive. There's no good solution to this problem, although two mediocre workarounds exist. * Copy the subject line from the message to which you're replying and paste it into your reply's subject line, prefixing it with "Re:". This is effort well spent. * Have the digest sent as a MIME digest and use an email program like Eudora Pro that can separate the digest into individual messages in a mailbox. The problem goes away then, but, for some people, so does the point of receiving the digest version of a list. Sometimes you want to reply to a message but change the topic of discussion. When you do that, you should change the subject line; if you don't, people following the thread will be confused when your message doesn't match its subject. Some people (and some programs) indicate when they've changed a subject line by appending "(was )" to the new subject. That's acceptable but results in long and unwieldy subject lines that work badly in list archives. On the other side are people who change the subject lines on every message they send. That's equally problematic, since it prevents list members from reading (or sorting) messages that are related by a shared subject line. If you create descriptive subjects, maintain the correct subjects if you're a digest reader, and change subjects only when appropriate, you'll be well on your way to being admired as a paragon of list etiquette. **Use Short Signatures** -- My final gripe about mailing list postings is that many people have long signatures at the end of their messages. Email signatures are useful, but mailing list signatures should be kept to a minimum. This is especially true for lists that have digests because the signatures can take up a significant portion of the digest. For instance, messages with long signatures sent to the moderated Info-Mac Digest are rejected with a note asking the person to resend with a shorter signature. Many email programs let you switch between multiple signatures, but you have to remember to do so for each message. There's a trick you can use in Eudora Pro (but not Eudora Light) to switch signatures automatically when you're replying to messages that come from mailing lists. Follow these steps: 1) In the Signatures window create a shortened signature for use with mailing lists called "Short signature." Your name, affiliation, email address, and URL are all that is essential. 2) In the Personalities settings panel, create a personality called "Mailing list signature." Fill in the Real Name and Return Address fields, and select the "Send mail whenever sends are done" checkbox. All the other fields can be blank, and the checkboxes related to checking mail should be deselected. 3) Switch to the Personality Extras settings panel, leave the Stationery pop-up menu set to None, and choose Short signature from the "Signature when not using stationery" pop-up menu. Click OK to save your personality settings. 4) Open the Filters window. In filters that move messages from mailing lists into specific mailboxes, add a Make Personality action, and from the Personality pop-up menu, choose "Mailing list signature." You've created a signature for use with mailing lists, connected it with a specific personality that differs from your dominant personality only in the default signature setting, then created a filter that automatically assigns that personality to incoming messages from mailing lists. Now, whenever you reply to a message from a mailing list, Eudora Pro knows to use your mailing list personality and thus your mailing list signature. You'll still have to choose your mailing list signature manually when sending a new message to a list, but all replies will use it automatically. **Ridin' that High Horse** -- I freely admit that there's nothing new in this article (well, except maybe the Eudora tip above). These recommendations have been floating around the Internet as long as there has been an Internet. The sad fact is, though, that mailing list manners haven't improved with time. So why can I complain? Two reasons. First, I think it's important that this topic, old as it is, remains in the public eye. Second, I do the work every day to create a mailing list that tries to conform to all the recommendations above. In TidBITS Talk, I do the following to every message: * Basic editing and spell checking, which is significantly eased by Eudora Pro 4.2's inline spell checker. I also add blank lines between paragraphs, add angle brackets to URLs, and remove styled text. * Eliminate unnecessary original text in replies. This task is quite easy, since wholesale deletions take little time. * Reject junk messages. Most mailing lists aren't moderated, but eliminating junk messages, or even multiple identical answers to the same question, is a major advantage of moderation. * Normalize subject lines. I try to keep similar messages in threads and break new thoughts out into new threads. This work also improves the quality and coherence of our archive database. * Signature pruning. Since I'm already editing messages, it's little extra work to trim signatures to their essentials. I do all this work because I think it makes for a far better list experience, and highly positive feedback from the members of the TidBITS Talk list confirms this. Another advantage is that this work tends to keep the list volume down, since I'm less likely to post messages that require a lot of work to clean up. I'm not trying to be smug - I love it when I can post submissions to TidBITS Talk without a lick of work. I also don't expect most other people who run mailing lists to expend this level of effort (though I wouldn't complain if some did). Instead, my goal here is to educate people who participate in mailing lists, since only by improving our list manners will mailing lists continue to become increasingly pleasant and useful. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 14:18:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:15:56 +0100 From: der weg nach drauþen Organization: [] To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: >>>>>>>> VIRUS FOR SALE AGAIN <<<<<<<<<< Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From der weg nach drauþen Hi Folks. I am selling a Virus Desktop. The price is DM 1.850. The device is new and the package has not been opened yet. mail to me asap. cu licht ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 14:19:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:17:50 +0100 From: der weg nach drauþen Organization: [] To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: >>>>>>>> VIRUS FOR SALE AGAIN <<<<<<<<<< Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi Folks. I am selling a Virus Desktop. The price is DM 1.850. The device is new and the package has not been opened yet. mail to me asap. cu licht Message-ID: <37382D8B.487E@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:15:56 +0100 From: der weg nach drauþen Organization: [] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: >>>>>>>> VIRUS FOR SALE AGAIN <<<<<<<<<< References: <373731FC.8446B873@wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks. I am selling a Virus Desktop. The price is DM 1.850. The device is new and the package has not been opened yet. mail to me asap. cu lichtX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 15:39:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:33:11 EDT Subject: Re: Making keys stick To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 5/11/99 5:15:05 AM, canine@muenster.de writes: << >.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to >keep them down :-) ). What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... >> I hit the chord I want to play, press and hold the sustain pedal, then switch instruments in my sequencer- the notes will then hang until I send an "all notes off" message. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 16:50:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:47:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Okay, here's an other idea: The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. Dimitri. >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > At 9:25 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >>.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... >A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. >Any other ideas? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 18:10:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: UniqueDBE@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:06:02 EDT Subject: Re: juno106 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From UniqueDBE@aol.com I run'em through distortion fx, namely the SE50 and a Metal Zone. Man, what a difference! << what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 18:13:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: UniqueDBE@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT Subject: Re: Making keys stick To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From UniqueDBE@aol.com I just lean my Strat against the KB. << A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. Any other ideas? >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 19:06:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:04:06 +0200 (MEST) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: one button? From: Kanou Ame X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.132] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kanou Ame canine wrote: >I very often play out live where the virus is little more than a neat looking Delay/Distortion/Filter Box for a Minidisk and a drummachine. > >I usually don't bring a midikeyboard since that would be too biug to carry >(try fitting that in a backpack). So being able to fire off a sound with the Virus (then pressing "hold") to keep the sound would be most excellent! > >Christoph: let's do it! yea! that s what i m talking of! it s realy cool to FIRE OFF a sound! ronald wrote: >Route the JD800 midi out to the Virus midi in. okay man, i am now able to route my jd to the virus but do you still think that my idea is bad? please look at those examples canine, valentijn, cam and me myself and i suggested. and btw, what s the virus-programmers opinion? thank you kanou --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 20:53:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mattrelaxing@pop.mindspring.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:50:03 -0400 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "Matt T." Subject: unsubscribe mattrelaxing@mindspring.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Matt T." unsubscribe mattrelaxing@mindspring.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 20:53:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: J.Parr@tesco.net Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:55:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Major hangup - Need help Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From J.Parr@tesco.net My first virus did exactly this,I sent it back and they gave me a new one. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 21:49:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: J.Parr@tesco.net Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:51:17 +0100 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: release time Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From J.Parr@tesco.net I read somewhere or heard ,that the Nord modular can produce sounds that last 48 hours without repeating.Can the virus be made to do this?any ideas. james ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 22:04:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: Re: juno106 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus weird... no one here who onws a juno106 likes it??... why is that? all i hear is good things about them.. i have heard them and they are very nice.. they are classic goa synths.... is the virus that much better then the 106?... ****just to ask***** anyone selling a mpx100 novation drumstaion xp60 777 tc electronic fireworx hehe .... if your selling any thing there.. lemme know =) -Cyngus cyngus_@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 22:25:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:23:48 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: release time Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:51 PM +0200 on 11.05.1999 J.Parr@tesco.net wrote: >* From J.Parr@tesco.net > >I read somewhere or heard ,that the Nord modular can produce sounds that last 48 hours without repeating.Can the virus be made to do this?any ideas. wasn't it the Nord that had LFO times of up to 7 minutes? A few of those intermingled and you're there. I don't think the Virus can do it. But then, most of my songs are a lot shorter than 48 hours... ;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 22:48:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: juno106 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:49:27 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Cyngus Cyngus Wrote: >weird... no one here who onws a juno106 likes it??... why is that? Well, to be fair, this IS the Virus list. ;-> Seriously, I owned a Juno106 for years - it's a wonderful machine that does a dozen things really well, with a very immediate interface. That's the coolest thing about it is how easy it is to come up with sounds. The downside is that you can reach the limit of the instrument pretty fast, and that chorus is HISSY. When I sold mine, I got the Virus shortly thereafter, and I use it for the same sort of sounds. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 16:58:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:51:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >e.g try setting lfo 1 to modulate filter env decay or attack, amount + or - 64 and yes, the env amount is on full for filters 1 and 2. LFO -> FltDecay works OK on my Virus. Is the LFO triggering despite TrigPhase Off? I remember that happening to me once. >e.g lfo 1 to uni spread + or - 64 Doesn't seem to work on mine either >I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. Agree! But it *is* fun to dream about a successor... and Access will be forced to develop new products at some point in the future... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 16:58:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler + more wants... Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:23:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Hi Paul >Now I'm on the subject... I really miss seperate levels for each oscillator rather than the oscillator balance knob. Personally, I think the balance knob is very sensible (and oscillator balance is a useful destination for modulation!) >And the Oscillator "level" seems a wasted option too since it is always at maximum (12 o'clock and over). This idea is dependant on the one above - you either have balance+level or 2xlevel. If you have OSC BAL, you have to have OSC VOL going down to 0. My vote - leave it be, and save a knob. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 16:58:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Making keys stick Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:40:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I use a torn-off flap from cigarette papers underneath e.g C and E to play D. This only works with white notes on a thin-keyed instrument. Other more and less sensible ideas: 1. A very small balloon filled with lead shot 2. Several combat knifes (Keith Emerson-style) 3. A non-musician and also non-drummer 4. A currently unused appendage Enough - it's getting too silly already.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 17:22:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:18:19 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Ronald Pieket wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > >>Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? > >Route the JD800 midi out to the Virus midi in. > >- Ronald. Or use a cheap to buy midi switching box? The Phillip Rees 3B does it for me. About 30UK Pounds Bilbo Bagginz >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 17:28:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:24:54 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Tomás Kejzlar wrote: >* From =?iso-8859-1?B?VG9t4XMgS2Vqemxhcg==?= > >NO!!! >No kidding men. >Actually I did it. And I sold my MS-20 too. > >Tomás Kejzlar >Electra Glide Project: http://www.space.cz/home/Electra_Glide The-R-Mix: http://thermix.webjump.com >Both sites in czech language only!!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bilbo Bagginz To: >Sent: 11. kvėtna 1999 11:16 >Subject: Re: juno106 > >>* From Bilbo Bagginz >> >> >> >>Herb Ivore wrote: >> >>>* From Herb Ivore >>> >>>i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >>>what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? >> >>Er, sell them and buy Viruses? >> >>Just kidding! >> >>Bilbo Bagginz >> >Strangely enough Tomás, I just sold my Korg MS20 too 3 days ago . It was surplus to requirements. Catchalata, Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 04:30:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:28:47 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com, "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: LONG: list mannersk9 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore i think manners on the list should be implemented a little more conciously.. but you have given a bad example.. you just quoted a lengthy story sent it to hundreds of members and it is off topic... it's kinda funny.. what does it have to do with mac owners?? u being prejudice??? got something against mac heads?? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 09:04:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Fw: patches Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:00:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" |Hi list, | |The new software with the second midi-file makes the Virus lose some sounds. |A trick to get the old Bank A and B into the new Bank C and D is to load the |second midi-file named: |secon15x.mid | |But before you do that you need to load first the second midi-file of 2.51 |and load the presets in the Bank A and B. |Now you have all factory-sounds together in Bank A and B (with the new ones) |and Bank C and D (the old ones). | |To Canine I will send a new Multie dump with the old multies (they make use |of the Bank C and D). | |With best regards, | |Rob Papen |___________________________________ |ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC |Homepage: www.robpapen.com |E-mail: rob@robpapen.com | |What is new our coming out soon: | |- EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) | |- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) | |-TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 | |- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm | |___________________________________ | |Tel: 00-31 475410188 |Fax: 00-31 475410089 |___________________________________ | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 09:42:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:39:58 +0200 Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 11 May 1999 16:47:53 +0200 (MET DST), Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Okay, here's an other idea: > >The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. You can implement something like this easily: Just insert an opening trigger switch into your MIDI connection. Hold down the keys, press the button, release the keys and no NOTE OFF will be transferred. Release the button and continue to play. If you want to stop all the noise you can use the VIRUS' panic function or press your selfmade button, hold down the keys you wish to release, release your button and then release the keys. This works, is cheap and might be a solution for some live applications (Maybe I could sell patched MIDI cables for a fortune if I only had time...). Oh, and by the way: Keys have an auto-stick feature if you treat your keyboard with coke and crisps. Just perfect for this "I-don't-know-how-to-make-music-but-everyone-in-the-club-is-banging-head s-if-I-hold-down-the-demo-button - retro-sound". ;-) CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 09:48:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:46:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT, UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: >* From UniqueDBE@aol.com > >I just lean my Strat against the KB. Ever thought about the "reverse keytriggering option" ? RKO works like this: You stick carpet tape to all your keys. Then you remove the coils responsible for pulling the keys up. Now you have all notes playing unless you decide to put your finger upon some keys and lift them up. This would require note off dynamics features in your keyboard in order to play dynamically. And someone might want to design a PC program to swap NOTE OFF and NOTE ON to have almost regular operations again. Now you know it: I am the worlds' biggest inventor since Edison and Bell. :-) CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 12:40:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:46:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Making keys stick X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT, UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: >* From UniqueDBE@aol.com > >I just lean my Strat against the KB. Ever thought about the "reverse keytriggering option" ? RKO works like this: You stick carpet tape to all your keys. Then you remove the coils responsible for pulling the keys up. Now you have all notes playing unless you decide to put your finger upon some keys and lift them up. This would require note off dynamics features in your keyboard in order to play dynamically. And someone might want to design a PC program to swap NOTE OFF and NOTE ON to have almost regular operations again. Now you know it: I am the worlds' biggest inventor since Edison and Bell. :-) CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 10:12:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:09:22 +0200 Subject: OT: Input devices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" After some laughs about sticky keyboards I thought about ideas for input devices - especially for those in need for intuitional live playing. Midi-Joystick: There is a freeware tool for windows pc which generates MIDI code from joystick movement. The joystick is attached to the usual game port. With Cubase mixermaps (for example) you could use the generated MIDI code just to control mixer elements which then control your VIRUS. Think about resonance and cutoff both on the tip of one finger... Maybe someone wants to desing a programm which could make use of the DirectPlay features. Thus you could take almost any game input device to generate music. The standard game port has four analogue and four switching inputs - this would be enough for a cheap self-made fader box. Laser-Harp: Take a VERY cheap midi keybord from Toys'R'nt Us and connect some of the key switches with light detectors (closing when dark). Now you need those cute laser pointers available vor a few bucks at every corner during summer open-air concerts. Build a frame and let the lasers point directly to the detectors. Now you can trigger a note by cutting the beam. Looks much nicer with stage fog. Any more ideas ? CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 13:11:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:09:22 +0200 Subject: OT: Input devices X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" * From "Philipp Mott" After some laughs about sticky keyboards I thought about ideas for input devices - especially for those in need for intuitional live playing. Midi-Joystick: There is a freeware tool for windows pc which generates MIDI code from joystick movement. The joystick is attached to the usual game port. With Cubase mixermaps (for example) you could use the generated MIDI code just to control mixer elements which then control your VIRUS. Think about resonance and cutoff both on the tip of one finger... Maybe someone wants to desing a programm which could make use of the DirectPlay features. Thus you could take almost any game input device to generate music. The standard game port has four analogue and four switching inputs - this would be enough for a cheap self-made fader box. Laser-Harp: Take a VERY cheap midi keybord from Toys'R'nt Us and connect some of the key switches with light detectors (closing when dark). Now you need those cute laser pointers available vor a few bucks at every corner during summer open-air concerts. Build a frame and let the lasers point directly to the detectors. Now you can trigger a note by cutting the beam. Looks much nicer with stage fog. Any more ideas ? CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 11:23:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:23:22 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Peter Govaers Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Peter Govaers >weird... no one here who onws a juno106 likes it??... why is that? >all i hear is good things about them.. i have heard them and they are very nice.. they are classic goa synths.... is the virus that much better then the 106?... I have a Juno106 and like it a lot. I thought about selling it on a number of occasions but every time I decided not too. I like the sound, it has a lot of balls, that classic pure analogue feel and the filter/resonance is very good. Real screamy sounds if you wish. I just has that little extra that a real analogue has. It is limited in possibilities though, but what I can do, it does it brilliant. That's my opinion. And oh, I don't have a Virus (yet) to compare with.... P ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 13:36:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Making keys stick Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:41:03 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" Sorry, i am. There are lots of ways to make keys stick, but no arp machine like mine. Because my son doesnt like his legos anymore I took one of the small electric engines and mounted an excenter. Combined with a potentiometer and a stand in the shape of an X-Wing this machine makes nice 1-key arpeggios if placed on the keys in the right way. Cause of the wide range of possible rpm i can even reach audio-frequencies. I'm still working on the right frequency to create the typical laser sound, til now i only reached the hoover-like Tie fighter noise. Greets Stefan > >* From "Philipp Mott" > >On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT, UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: > > >Now you know it: I am the worlds' biggest inventor since Edison and Bell. > >:-) >CU >flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:51:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Carsten Hohmann" To: Subject: unsubscribe chohman@stud.uni-goettingen.de Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:25:41 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Carsten Hohmann" unsubscribe chohman@stud.uni-goettingen.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 15:23:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:20:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: release time Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I have an idea: Use anything that has something periodical: -the arpeggiator -the lfo's of course -the osc2 and interface it with each other. I just made a patch like this. Mmm. pretty cewl. Dimitri. >>I read somewhere or heard ,that the Nord modular can produce sounds that >>last 48 hours without repeating.Can the virus be made to do this?any ideas. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 17:37:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: mattrelaxing@mindspring.com X-Sender: mattrelaxing@pop.internal.mindspring.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:34:48 -0400 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: subscribe mattrelaxing@mindspring.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From mattrelaxing@mindspring.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:03:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:46:53 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 23:40 Uhr +0200 on 11.05.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >Enough - it's getting too silly already.... That's what I was hoping for when I asked...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 21:13:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Making keys stick Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:07:11 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Ronald Pieket wrote... >I use the Keymode/HOLD feature on the Control menu. Don't you find it a little unspontaneous? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 21:13:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Making keys stick Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:07:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Dimitri sijperda wrote... >The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. This is not such a bad idea, although I don't mind doing the things the old way. I would like a panic button - quite often my Virus chokes and leaves a note sustaining after a sequence ends, even when I change patch. While it is interesting to change patch in mid-note for an unusual sound, I would prefer a simple way to just reset all 12 voices. I find myself rebooting about once every hour when I am composing - a situation where I am not thinking always about performance requirements. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 22:35:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:33:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Really, what are you taliking about "NO EFFECTS"? I love the thinking behind what's there already-- no wasted energy spent on half-assed reverbs, the chorus is lovely too. I'd be ecstatic to see a good distortion, a phaser, some other goodies get added. My only effects gripe-- if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? Some one on the list responded to me when I asked about this a while back, saying that the jumps were "perfectly acceptable for all musical applications" which is simply not true. On Tue, 11 May 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 12:39 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 WELD wrote: >>NO EFFECTS PLEASE > >oh but of course we need some effects: distortion, delay, flanger/chorus/phaser and stuff like that. Dn't bother adding reverb unless you licence it from the likes of Lexicon.. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:20:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:09:06 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 21:07 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >>The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. But there is a hold feature in the menu somewhere. The kbd will have this. >I would prefer >a simple way to just reset all 12 voices. press both transpose keys simultaneously. This will panic the virus. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:07:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:10:17 +0200 From: Henrik Lübker Organization: Corporate Culture X-Accept-Language: en To: Access Virus List Subject: Barbara Morgenstern Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Henrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCbker?= Hi I can't remember with whom I spoke about Barbara Morgenstern. But anyway I just wanted to say that I went to a concert she gave in Copenhagen a couple of weeks ago, and she really blew me away. So now I am waiting for the CD to arrive from germany. Henrik pure silk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:21:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:10:44 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 22:33 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1999 Aaron E Havill wrote: >if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? Some one on the list responded to me when I asked about this a while back, saying that the jumps were "perfectly acceptable for all musical applications" which is simply not true. because in order to be able to express delay values in 128 steps (MIDI resolution) you need a grid like this. Just remember that when the Virus is synced to midi clock you will get any value necessary, not the closest approximation on those 128 values.. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:35:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:33:52 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >distortion, a phaser, some other goodies get added. My only effects gripe-- if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? yo ... it's all about MIDI Clock sync ... toss out your BPM/ms conversion tables and your HP scientific calculator and get your sequencer sending Midi Clock ... this is where things are so nnnnice and easy! Tell Delay that you want a cycle every 3/64, 1/4, 3/8, 2/3, 2/1, etc. of a whole note and BAM it's perfect... change the tempo, and the Virus stays synced. What could be better? -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 20:39:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:34:13 -0700 From: Elwood Smith Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elwood Smith go to sonicgrooves on Carmine st in the Village, they have all the joints Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: > >* From Davidzzz@aol.com > >Hi, > >I am visiting New York City this week and Hoped to find some record stores that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. > >Any ideas?? > >thanks, > >David >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:58:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:55:56 +0200 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hans w. koch" ...but there is already some panic button: just press both transpose buttons together - all sounds off. my contribution to keys stick: hit some keys at the keyboard (evolution dance station, which is nice and small), then switch midi channel,while holding keys depressed. hwk Anig Browl wrote: >. I would like a panic button - quite often my Virus chokes and leaves a note sustaining after a sequence ends, even when I change patch. While it is interesting to change patch in mid-note for an unusual sound, I would prefer a simple way to just reset all 12 voices. I find myself rebooting about once every hour when I am composing - a situation where I am not thinking always about performance requirements. > >Anig Browl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 00:11:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill True, true... still, when processing external audio (or running it without a sequencer to sync to) I've longed for more precise delay timing on several occassions. Can't the MIDI limitation of 128 steps be worked around with LSB & MSB? On Wed, 12 May 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 22:33 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1999 Aaron E Havill wrote: >>if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? Some one on the list responded to me when I asked about this a while back, saying that the jumps were "perfectly acceptable for all musical applications" which is simply not true. > >because in order to be able to express delay values in 128 steps (MIDI resolution) you need a grid like this. > >Just remember that when the Virus is synced to midi clock you will get any value necessary, not the closest approximation on those 128 values.. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 02:54:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:42:34 -0700 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Gear for sale - good prices. Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan My buddy Cyb is selling his stuff. Sadly. But, for good prices. Check it out and let him know if you're interested: http://www.bioroid.com/gear.htm j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 05:42:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:38:38 EDT Subject: anyone want a virus? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Mine is for sale with a price tag of $850 plus shipping. If anyone's intersted send me a direct e-mail. Thanks. C. (would prefer to sell in the D/FW area, but not necessary) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 07:02:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: madler@206.13.28.38 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:58:34 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Adler Subject: Re: anyone want a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Adler At 11:38 PM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From ThaPhunkE1@aol.com > >Mine is for sale with a price tag of $850 plus shipping. If anyone's intersted send me a direct e-mail. Thanks. Sold. I want it! Email me your phone number so we can discuss shipping. Thanks, Marc Adler madler@pacbell.net PGP DH/DSS 0x2D090BDF ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 02:32:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:44:12 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Howard, thanks for your response. I just had another go prompted by your response and have discovered that I need to have the patch in any of the four mono modes to get the effect that I was after. i.e automated variation on the decay timewhen using a fast arpeggiated sequence. I am not sure but I think this means that the filter env. doesn't retrigger in poly mode. What do you (or anyone else) think? It certainly re-triggers in any of the mono modes. Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > > >>e.g try setting lfo 1 to modulate filter env decay or attack, amount + or - 64 and yes, the env amount is on full for filters 1 and 2. > >LFO -> FltDecay works OK on my Virus. Is the LFO triggering despite TrigPhase Off? I remember that happening to me once. > >>e.g lfo 1 to uni spread + or - 64 > >Doesn't seem to work on mine either > >>I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. > >Agree! But it *is* fun to dream about a successor... and Access will be forced to develop new products at some point in the future... > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 02:30:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:26:40 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Split Mode, Filter Slopes and Sub Oscillators Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Access team and Access list. After writing the best part of my new album with the Red Beast, here's a few things that I found myself wishing that the Virus did. And that I'd like to see implemented on the Virus. 1. Clock rates of 8 bars and 16 bars. Don't forget if you want to modulate up over 8 bars and down over 8 bars (which I do) with a triangle wave, you will need a 16 bar cycle. 2. An option to have a 4 pole filter each side in split mode. (as opposed to 2 poles each side which we have at present.) The main use for this for me would be for creating bass sounds. As it stands It's very easy to create only some types huge bass sounds using split mode by setting osc balance and filter balance to 12 o'clock and selecting 2 waves of your choice in the same octave. Vary stereo width with unison spread, detune to taste and you have 2 independent oscillators panned left and right. And all this without even thinking about unison mode. It's fat and doesn't eat polyphonic margerine. The big, fat bummer for me is that for the bass sounds that I generally like to create and use in my music, I need the 24db slope. 2b. It would also be very useful to have that same option available for parallel mode. What I suggest is a single software switch in the edit menu which says: Split/Par 12db or 24db 3. Again split mode. The usefulness of this excellent mode is limited by the fact that if I wish to use the sub oscillator or noise source then it has to come from either the right or left output only. Which is not a lot of use in an actual mix situation. The sub oscillator especially tends to unbalance the mix. Why not adjust the stereo spread to pan them into the centre then? Well that would be just the same as using parallel mode. So what about this then: Putting the sub oscillator and white noise in the middle in other words, splitting both of these signals in half and outputting them thru each filter accordingly, keeping oscillators 1 and 2 going thru filters 1 and 2 as they are at present. Much more useful from my point of view. 4. Having the sub oscillator switchable to saw wave would be useful too.. 5. There is no number 5. There was, but it's gone. It'll be back. (like Arnie.) That's all for now. Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 12:05:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:02:02 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 0:08 Uhr +0200 on 13.05.1999 Aaron E Havill wrote: >True, true... still, when processing external audio (or running it without a sequencer to sync to) I've longed for more precise delay timing on several occassions. Can't the MIDI limitation of 128 steps be worked around with LSB & MSB? possibly it can, I hope Christoph is reading this and maybe he'll comment on it. I was just referring to the way it is now, I have no idea what needs to be done to improve it. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 12:24:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:17:41 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:09 Uhr +0200 on 19.05.1999 Rick Reyes wrote: >I thought the Delays & LFOs would sync to the internal clock when no other sync source is present. Am I wrong? when they are synced, this is true. If now then you have to adjust the parameters in the 128 step MIDI increments. But the internal clock only ranges from 63-190 bpm, so if you are outside that range you're stuck again...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 19:46:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:44:09 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Input devices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp SWEET MOTHER OF PEARL! I got this software last night ... http://www.harmony-central.com/~ftp/software/windows/midi/midijoys.zip ... HOLY S**T!!! Set up the horizontal axis for controller 41 (cutoff) and vertical axis for 43 (reso), dial up something big like RotterDAM, hit a chord and wang the joystick around (with button1 depressed, of course). It's tough to describe. If you've got a PC, a joystick, and a Virus TRY IT! l8r zs >Midi-Joystick: >There is a freeware tool for windows pc which generates MIDI code from joystick movement. The joystick is attached to the usual game port. With Cubase mixermaps (for example) you could use the generated MIDI code just to control mixer elements which then control your VIRUS. Think about resonance and cutoff both on the tip of one finger... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 20:46:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Making keys stick (or not) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:40:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Canine wrote... >press both transpose keys simultaneously. This will panic the virus. Duh, I completely missed that feature. thanks, I have to play live this weekend! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 21:34:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:31:57 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >I really want to do more than just simply flash the LEDs. The brightness (!) of the LEDs should show the character of the voice steal. Only the both LFO LEDs are capable of producing different brightnesses. This was actually the main part of the idea. ayyyy yaaaaaa! Maybe I'm a person of limited brainpower, but with the LEDs already flashing for input levels and/or LFO amount, putting a third item on these already taxed lights would be next to useless, imho. If a steal occurs and you hear it, you can fix it. If a steal occurs and you don't hear it, then it's not a problem. This is audio ... perception is everything. If you care about things you *can't* hear in a song, then you worry too much. A useful meter would be maybe some resettable text item (displayed in the LCD) that tells you the max voices used since the last reset. An asterisk or some other indicator to let you know a steal has occured may be useful as well. e.g.: +------------------+ |VOICE USAGE | | 11| <- no steal +------------------+ +------------------+ |VOICE USAGE | | *12| <- steal has occured +------------------+ A press of a value button could reset the VOICE USAGE back to zero ... -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 22:40:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: OT: Input devices Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:34:33 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Zack Steinkamp wrote... >I got this software last night ... >http://www.harmony-central.com/~ftp/software/windows/midi/midijoys.zip ... HOLY S**T!!! Again I have to mention http://www.midiworld.com/aureality and urge you to check out building blocks, which allows you to do this kind of this and a lot more interesting stuff too. You can do math on controller and note inputs in real time and it also includes 16-step sequwencers etc. It's described as a 'modular midi controller' and I couldn't agree more. Incredible piece of software. With a Virus hooked up you can create completely sick (=good) effects to warp your speakers, such as applying the same controller across differnt channels at once, affecting the next note with some of the parameters from the last note, and more. Weird, odd, but easy to learn and good. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 23:41:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:40:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Yes, that would be nice to see, but I understood that that is quite dificult to implement, while a 3rd led mode to choose from - voice steal mode - is the level of the AMP of the last stolen voice transferred to the LED. And imagine this: You hear voices being stolen, but you're not sure it's because of your crappy sequencer (PC?) or MIDI cables, or the Virus being in trouble. It's a nice 'debugging' tool I think. By the way, voice stealing occurs many times, but they're inaudible. (<60dB) Seeing a * of an inaudible note being stolen is not very usefull. The LED flashing at a level you can't see is better. Dimitri. > >A useful meter would be maybe some resettable text item (displayed in the LCD) that tells you the max voices used since the last reset. An asterisk or some other indicator to let you know a steal has occured may be useful as well. e.g.: > >+------------------+ >|VOICE USAGE | >| 11| <- no steal >+------------------+ > >+------------------+ >|VOICE USAGE | >| *12| <- steal has occured >+------------------+ > >A press of a value button could reset the VOICE USAGE back to zero ... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 00:24:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:23:48 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I am not sure but I think this means that the filter env. doesn't retrigger in poly mode. What do you (or anyone else) think? It certainly re-triggers in any of the mono modes. I think when you're running an arpeggio, the filter envelope is *always* retriggered because there's no legato. I don't quite understand what you're getting at because I haven't been able to reproduce your problem in any key mode. Post me a patch? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 03:06:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:01:01 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >I really want to do more than just simply flash the LEDs. The brightness (!) of the LEDs should show the character of the voice steal. In fast music the voice may be returned or another voice stolen before you can be sure what is the brightness of the LED anyway. If this is really important I suggest flashing one of the transpose LEDs or using a differnt number of flashes on the saturation LED for different situations. The reason I am going on about this is that voice stealing usually happens when you don't expect it. If sending the stealing message to the LFO light is an option, then I probably don't have it turned on first and then it is no help at all. And if I think I hear a steal then I have to dive into a menu and switch it on. Or if it flashes this way automatically maybe I get confused with the LFO or the input signal before I realise it is a voice steal. The LFOs flash all the time already. If you blink one of the other lights that is normally static then I will notice much faster and it will be a more useful feature. Also why try to put so much information into the flash, which may be impossible to understand quickly in a live situation? Why not have a CTRL or Edit screeen that shows which channels are playing notes, how many voices they are using and which are being stolen in real time, eg 1 24 B 0 d-dd-x f----- d means a note (d => music symbol) is playing on that channel right now. f means filter input. x means a voice was stolen (different codes for different conditions) - means nothing is playing on that channel Numbers are for how many voices the patch uses, B is hex-type B, i.e. 0123456789ABC for 0-12 voices. 0 voices is when you use filter input. So above would be what you se if a 12-voice unison patch (or maybe a vocoder) was playing on channel 6 when notes started on channels 1, 3 and 4. I split the 12 channels into 2 banks of 6 to make it easy to read, but there are 16 characters in the display so this will work on the Virus KB too. you could also add letter codes (like c for controller etc) and use this as some way to indicate the DSP load if you wanted to get 'interactive' :-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 04:28:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Version 2.51? Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:21:57 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Christoph, I thought I installed OS 2.51... and the new Assign destinations work great now, whereas there were bugs before... But my Virus still says 2.5 at startup. ? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 10:11:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Gear for sale - good prices. Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:08:29 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" How can he just sell all that?! It was definitely a yummy list... yum! >My buddy Cyb is selling his stuff. Sadly. > >But, for good prices. Check it out and let him know if you're interested: > > http://www.bioroid.com/gear.htm > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 01:11:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:30:50 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: make sounds part2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen Hey again fellow Virus users, after i asked last time how to begin creating new sounds on my virus, i got enough replies to go and try twiddle some nasty sounds out of my little red box. But again, i have a question.... i'm looking after making some sounds that lie in the neighborhood of the Aphex Twin and Autechre sounds... those harsh digital timbres...or funky weird noises... as i'm not an experienced soundcreator at all, but willing to learn, could someone here tell me where to start ? i think some others will also benefit from your soundmaking lessons... I thank you in advance, John Machielsen (what i'd also like to learn is to get nice rave and clubish pads etc.. because all i made till now are weird non-usefull sounds..but i made them at night...when i wasnt really awake anymore) -- http://culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<< what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno >sounds??? >>> I have never owned a Juno but have played the 106 quite a bit and have always found that the oscillators have a distinct Juno sound that can not be got away from. This is partly due to the lack of parameters you have to modify the sound and also the limitation of a single oscillator per voice. Others may disagree but I just don't like that Juno sound. Steve. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 13:56:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: buddha@dial.pipex.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:55:03 +0000 Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >Hi Howard, >thanks for your response. >I just had another go prompted by your response and have discovered that I need >to have the patch in any of the four mono modes to get the effect that I was after. i.e automated variation on the decay timewhen using a fast arpeggiated sequence. I am not sure but I think this means that the filter env. doesn't retrigger in poly mode. What do you (or anyone else) think? It certainly re-triggers in any of the mono modes. > Might this be to do with whether the LFO is set to poly or mono. Also LFO keytrig might need to be set to off. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 05:26:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sat, 15 May 99 04:21:07 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz CHRISTOF KEMPER wrote : >>what if u could set a stepless quality of sound for each patch for the generating of the waves by degrading the samplerate and the bitrate independenty ? >>i mean,like there are some plugins (sonic decimator,or the mda-degrader..)? >>this could sound great (i tried it with just a saw,a pulse and sinus). if this could help to save cpu,maybe this parameter could allow even more voices than 12 (rack)? >>only a thought of me....:=) >>because this sometimes sounds VERY good (oizo is nr. 1 in media control charts >>,germany!!) and i do this via plugin all the time.... >> >>regards,greetings and respect from good old stuttgart, nico >> > >This is an idea that I thought about already. A little problem is that it will require some additional power to make this sample-rate conversion sound acceptable. As known from some samplers, a sample which is transposed down, produces some >noise at the high end, which can be nice for LoFi sounds, but not always. This effect can be eliminated only by a more expensive sample interpolation. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper so is there no way to do this by using the power the virus got already ? i`m not sooo deep in that programroutines : u say that the virus would need more power to create ore use a "seperate algorithm" that produces the osc`s with less bitrate or samplingrate ? (because my naive thoughts were that this would use less power - as an easy way to decrease voicestealth..... can we hope for a feature like that ? ;=) regards,greetings and respect from stuttgart, nico >-------------------------------------------------------------------------< >nico herz >no ! lowcut productions / mail: nolowcut@gmx.de >bessemerstr. 7 c / tel: 049 (0) 711 / 607 69 23 >70 435 stuttgart,germany / fax: 049 (0) 711 / 607 01 12 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 17:50:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:47:22 EDT Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell you as well? And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. Just my 2 cycles worth. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 18:25:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:33:43 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i agree totally with zon, deemed not needed my top 2 requests 1)analog sequencer mode 2) random patch generator weld Synthworld@aol.com wrote: >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell you as well? >And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. > >Just my 2 cycles worth. > >Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 18:58:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:55:17 EDT Subject: other requests To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/15/99 9:30:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: >my top 2 requests >1)analog sequencer mode >2) random patch generator >weld Yes!! Now, these - I would love to see! I agree with Weld on these! Anybody else? Zon (...on the planet Synthworld) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 19:40:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:38:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell you >as well? >And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. I couldn't agree with you more... I don't see the point either and certainly won't be looking at that indicator. But thats probably just me... now on with the music :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:09:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:08:12 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Synthworld@aol.com schrieb: > >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >In a message dated 5/15/99 9:30:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: > >>my top 2 requests >>1)analog sequencer mode >>2) random patch generator >>weld > >Yes!! Now, these - I would love to see! I agree with Weld on these! >Anybody else? > >Zon (...on the planet Synthworld) Hi ! For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? For live Jams ? Or in Studio use ? I donīt think so. I think the Virus user interface is not designed for such a mode. You have to step through the CTRL and EDIT- pages only to programm a simple sequencer track.This is not very funny and unconvenient. See the Waldorf Q.This maschine has an internal Sequencer.But, is this Sequencer easy to use like a "real" Sequencer ? Not at all. Be happy with the "SYNTHESIZER" Virus. Some more internal effects would be more useful in my opinion. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:28:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:25:35 EDT Subject: Re: other requests To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/15/99 11:14:24 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Groove303@t-online.de writes: >For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? Analog sequencers are considered to be an integral part of the vocabulary of early analog synthesizers and electronic music. Other virtual analog synthesizers have analog-type sequencers (Yamaha AN1x, Clavia Nord Modular, Waldorf Q, Quasimidi Polymorph) so why not the Virus? As far as it being inconvenient to implement - this simply means that a convenient solution to add it to the Virus has not yet been found. If it weren't for analog sequencers, I would not have been a synthesist. I just feel it would be a very useful addition to an already marvelous synthesizer. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:28:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:25:39 +0200 Subject: Re: other requests From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >In a message dated 5/15/99 9:30:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: > >>my top 2 requests >>1)analog sequencer mode Would maybe be nice :-) I only still see problems coming up with this feature because of the timing problems that _will_ occur (see Arpeggiator). But I have this feature on the AN1x and I agree that it is a difference having sequences running out of the synth via an internal sequences. But the timing of the AN1X is so bad, that I have to record everything to harddisk and then cut the best parts out of it. If a sequencer is done, it only makes sense if you can also kind of a *sequence pool* from which you can root/edit all sequences to all patches. I wouldnīt like it, if a sequence can only be played with the patch you programmed it for. >>2) random patch generator >>weld This would sure be nice, but it can also be done with an Environment like Cacine allready did. Donīt know if it is complicated to program for the Virus. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:28:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:33:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From Synthworld@aol.com >> >>Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell >you >>as well? >>And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. > >I couldn't agree with you more... >I don't see the point either and certainly won't be looking at that indicator. >But thats probably just me... As stated before there are situations where this would be a brilliant debugging tool! In a complex playback your ears wont tell you everything about any signal. And some things (like stolen voices) are maybe not audible but feelable! I still vote for this feature :-) Ray ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:38:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#europa.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:37:38 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick Of all the Virus wishlist features discussed thus far, I think that a "one-shot" sound trigger would be the most helpful. This doesn't have to be fancy--i.e., the only parameter I'd really care about adjusting is the Note value & duration of the trigger. All I want is to be able to lug around my Virus in my backpack, sans hardware sequencer, midi keyboard, whatever, and be able to program sounds no matter where I am. I'd also love to see a randomizer feature, which would be a blast when used in conjunction with an on-board sound trigger feature. And of course, it'd be awesome to have a sequencer of some type, even if something as wonderfully simple as that found on a Sequential Circuits Pro-One (48 steps of uniform duration). I don't particularly mind having to step through menu pages to program a sequencer track, but I can see where that'd be a buzzkill for many people. I don't care about a visual display of voice-stealing; I've got that feature on my K2000, and I never use it. I completely agree with the point that "your ear is the best judge" of voice stealing. I also don't care about more internal effects, as I primarily use outboard effects anyway. I'd rather see the Virus' DSP power applied elsewhere. Just my thoughts on the matter. Heck, maybe Access would consider open-sourcing the Virus firmware, and then the fun would *really* begin... in my dreams, only in my dreams. :-) :-) :-) -Marc Visnick marc@jli.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:34:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:39:20 +0200 Subject: Re: other requests From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >Some more internal effects would be more useful in my opinion. Come on: you get a brilliant sounding FX processor for $200 (like the Lexicon MPX 100). I donīt think it makes sense rap the Virus for some FX you can get out of a cheap FX processor or an audio plug in. Ray ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 21:04:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:02:18 +0200 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hans w. koch" i would much more prefer to see more voice possibilities as for e.g. ringmodulator for external signals, external signal + oscillator in the same voice, other fancys for the external (dedicated waveshaping), envelope-follower etc. virus is a great *synthesizer*, must not be an all-in-one-box. hwk Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? For live Jams ? Or in Studio use ? I donīt think so. I think the Virus user interface is not designed for such a mode. You have to step through the CTRL and EDIT- pages only to programm a simple sequencer track.This is not very funny and unconvenient. See the Waldorf Q.This maschine has an internal Sequencer.But, is this Sequencer >easy to use like a "real" Sequencer ? Not at all. Be happy with the "SYNTHESIZER" Virus. > >Some more internal effects would be more useful in my opinion. > >Stay Fresh > >Jens W. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! _____