X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 1 10:19:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Yo To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Controversial? I made music WITH feces FOR feces a long time ago.......try again.......oh yeah, and your private message was sent to the whole list...... I'm also starting a new "contoversial" epic/electronic/progressive concept album based off ancient mythology called "Oriface and the Riddle of the Sphincter"...........yeah right. Isn't twiddling and tweaking hundreds of plastic nipples enough? Gel-Sol --- UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: >* From UniqueDBE@aol.com > >Hi, Paulo. You're back in the homeland now, right? > >I'm putting together my most controversial album yet, "Shite Beats for >Shiites." > >What are you up to? > >Blake > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 2 07:11:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:06:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Procedure to make custom sounds in Bank C and D? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Did'nt we have the discussion before that one should'n get drunk during a gig? :-p Dunno, but it would be handy. O, wait, that brings me to another idea. A 'memprotect' for individual patches. When you're done with making a patch, just put 'em on individual protect mode. Would that be possible? And a knob-combination +/- to jump to the next patch which does'nt have mem-protect yet, to store to. That would mean not losing patches and no patch administration necesary. Dimitri. Op Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jay Vaughan schreef: >* From Jay Vaughan >Since the C & D banks are stored in Flash ROM during the OS update procedure, is it possible to somehow replace these sounds with custom versions instead? That way I could have all of my tour sounds in Flash ROM and never worry about overwriting them during mad drunken after-gig parties, and stuff... :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 2 16:37:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:32:42 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Procedure to make custom sounds in Bank C and D? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:06 AM +0200 on 02.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >Dunno, but it would be handy. O, wait, that brings me to another idea. A 'memprotect' for individual patches. When you're done with making a patch, just put 'em on individual protect mode. Would that be possible? And a knob-combination +/- to jump to the next patch which does'nt have mem-protect yet, to store to. That would mean not losing patches and no patch administration necesary. Hm, that sounds a bit like you need to be drunk to fully understand how this works. Much frustration potential for newbies in there...! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 3 16:54:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:32:21 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Procedure to make custom sounds in Bank C and D? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >>Dunno, but it would be handy. O, wait, that brings me to another idea. A 'memprotect' for individual patches. >Hm, that sounds a bit like you need to be drunk to fully understand how this works. Much frustration potential for newbies in there...! :) I know my sony HR-MP5 fx unit does this and I love it. I'm one of those people who don't bother names when they're busy producing. I end up having 10 patches named 'DNB BASS1'...:) And overwriting becomes a serious thread... Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 3 22:57:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:54:32 +0100 Subject: Should I? From: "S. W. Krupp" To: "Access-list" X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "S. W. Krupp" Hi! Krupp here... Back home.... Thanx for the Copenhagen advise... I never got that free moments, though. My question: Should I uppgrade... I wonder if I would miss those nasty sounds inbetween the waveforms. And: How many times can a machine like the fabolous VIRUS be upgraded? Is there a limit? I have no idea what so ever on the physics here. ..no place like home! kRuPp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 06:28:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Test Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:21:45 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Test ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 07:05:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:59:29 -0700 From: Arthur Kim Organization: http://www.seattleu.edu/~artman X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Arthur Kim Hey all, How much would you say a used Virus is worth in the US? Thanks, -Art ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 07:27:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:23:07 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM If they can be bought new for about $1100, a fair used price would be $900. Supply and demand may tell you differently. DTM. Arthur Kim wrote: >* From Arthur Kim > >Hey all, > >How much would you say a used Virus is worth in the US? > >Thanks, >-Art > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 08:52:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 08:50:03 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello y'all, now that I successfully downloaded and installed the 2.51, one question still remains unanswered. I created a patch with filter routing set to split. When I only set the ringmodulator to a value != 0 and then back to 0, setting Sub Osc = 0, Noise = 0 and Osc Vol=-63 (-64?) no fx send at all, in some cases still the same sound comes out of the V. I had this already in the 2.50. Did I miss something? How is the ringmod routed ? Does it bypass the filter in split mode? Is it a feature or a flaw? regards ---- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 08:59:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 23:55:13 -0700 From: Arthur Kim Organization: http://www.seattleu.edu/~artman X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Arthur Kim Well, I have a one month old Virus for sale (they can't get any newer than this!). I could use some extra $$$ to pay for my new sport bike. Am I crazy?!!! Yes, I love this box, but I can also buy another one at another time... . I guess I'm taking offers. -Art DTM wrote: >* From DTM > >If they can be bought new for about $1100, a fair used price would be $900. Supply and demand may tell you differently. > >DTM. > >Arthur Kim wrote: > >>* From Arthur Kim >> >>Hey all, >> >>How much would you say a used Virus is worth in the US? >> >>Thanks, >>-Art >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 10:11:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: Re: Test Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:09:59 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Wagner" also a test ; ) ignore..... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 11:14:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: problems with update..... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:09:38 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Wagner" hi ; ) has anyone here experienced problems while updating the virus ? somehow the virus counts as far as 91 and then stops updating....(sometimes it doesnīt even come further then 30 something...) i tried all kinds of tempos from 60 to 120 bpm while updating.... also the virus recieves midi data that was sent on ch 1 on ch 3 ; ( it is also not possible to send midi on ch 2. is this a hardware bug ?? is it possible to reset the virus somehow ? do i have to send the virus to access ? thanx for any help ; ) mark ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 12:23:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:10:13 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: problems with update..... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:09 AM +0200 on 04.05.1999 Mark Wagner wrote: >is this a hardware bug ?? This is possible, even though the hardware problem will not be in the Virus but more likely inside oyur computer or MIDI interface. Try it with a different interface, computer, sequencer and usually it will work. I have expereinced it once when I helped my dealer update a virus to 2.5, his MIDI interface didn't like the sysex and reliably missed a block after 110 every time. We changed MIDI interfaces and everything went smoovely. >is it possible to reset the virus somehow ? yes, please check the FAQ for this. >do i have to send the virus to access ? not yet. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 13:28:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: problems with update..... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:20:59 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >somehow the virus counts as far as 91 and then stops updating.... Maybe sequencer is sending MIDI time code? >also the virus recieves midi data that was sent on ch 1 on ch 3 ; ( it is also not possible to send midi on ch 2. Could be your Multi part settings under Ctrl menu. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 14:46:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Mark Wagner" To: Subject: Re: problems with update..... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:45:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Mark Wagner" thanx so far guys.... iīll try it ; ) cu mark...... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 15:53:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:48:51 EDT Subject: Updates,saving and patch editors To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Davidzzz@aol.com Hi, I have been without a working modem at home and am still using version 1.xx (somewhere in the .70 region). I want to up to update but before I do I need to know if I will lose all my current patches. If not fine, otherwise on a Mac with vst how could I save them. Thanks in advance. david z peters ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 16:00:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:58:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" <2.51> >I created a patch with filter routing set to split. When I only set the ringmodulator to a value != 0 and then back to 0, setting Sub Osc = 0, Noise = 0 and Osc Vol=-63 (-64?) no fx send at all, in some cases still the same sound comes out of the V. Split Mode: If RM volume is anything other than 0, you get the Oscillators (not the RM signal!) at full volume - definitely a flaw. BTW: Only the RM is independant of OSC VOL, so the Noise and SUB OSC settings are irrelevant when OSC VOL = 0. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:36:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:30:09 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Updates,saving and patch editors Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:48 PM +0200 on 04.05.1999 Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: >I want to up to update but before I do I need to know if I will lose all my current patches. If not fine, otherwise on a Mac with vst how could I save them. you can dump all your patches into VST (which you should do as a backup no matter if you are going to update at all) but if everything goes well and you don't acceidetally press the wrong buttons, you won't lose your patches. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:15:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 17:10:37 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Howard, thanks for your post. Howard Scarr wrote: ><2.51> >Split Mode: If RM volume is anything other than 0, you get the Oscillators (not the RM signal!) at full volume - definitely a flaw. No, this is not what I meant. I set RM to != 0 and then right back to 0 (zero) and the V puts out the sound as with vol !=0. I'm not sure what I hear: The RM or Osc sounding, I have to get a little bit deeper into it. > >BTW: Only the RM is independant of OSC VOL, so the Noise and SUB OSC settings are irrelevant when OSC VOL = 0. Maybe I didn't understand this correctly. The readme to 2.51 says: >... EDIT menu). When the volume is set to zero, the ringmodulator is off. Just like the noise signal, the ringmodulator is not affected by the setting of the OSC VOL This is the specification (ahem readme...). What I observed is, that the above specification is not always correct. When RM vol is set to zero in some cases the RM is not off. (or another source is sounding) Lars P.S. Again, all potential buyers, who read this: This is only a liiiiittttttllllleeeeee flaw, nothing that should prevent someone from buying a virus. I would never sell mine. Never. I'm out. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:59:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Recording Controller Data in CuBase To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? Thanks, Gel-Sol _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 18:58:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:41:56 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer On Tue, May 4, 1999, Guy Incognito wrote: >* From Guy Incognito > >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? First make sure you have set the Knobmode of the Virus set to *Int+Midi* or Midi. Second make sure that Cubase does not filter the controller or sysex data at the input. Usually it is better to the the lower page parameter sends in the Virus the Controller (itīs set to sysex by default), because controller data is less timing critical than sysex. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 18:53:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:48:26 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? for me, I plug the MIDI Input cable going to my computer into the MIDI Output of the Virus, hit record in Cubase, and start twisting knobs. Works perfectly every time (thx Access!) You may want to check out the MIDI Filter in Cubase ... maybe you have something turned off. On my version (Windows v.3.5.3 [or something like that]) the MIDI Filter is accessible via the Audio menu... Another thing to try is to go into the MIDI setup in Cubase and ensure that Cubase is indeed paying attention to the MIDI IN that you have plugged into the Virus' MIDI OUT. Yet another thing would be if the MIDI OUT from the Virus was plugged into another box before it reaches the computer, and that box is not set to do MIDI THRU (like the Virus' Soft MIDI Thru option...) -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 19:31:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: korpen@intouch.bc.ca Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:17:38 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Keith Orpen Subject: Global Channel, PGM Changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Keith Orpen Hiya, What is the global channel for? I can't get a program change from Cubase to make the Virus change the current Multi ... I do that all the time with my Nord. Whassup? Isn't that the point of a global channel? I guess I'm doing something wrong... Keith ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 19:31:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: korpen@intouch.bc.ca Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:25:30 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Keith Orpen Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Keith Orpen Disclaimer: I'm not a Virus owner, but I've often helped integrate my friend's infectious beastie into my setup for jams etc... Make sure that your controller mode is "Panel+MIDI". Make sure that your MIDI SoftThru is disabled (so Out=Out, not Thru). You should see MIDI activity (both in & out) on the Cubase transport bar whenever you turn a knob. Select a track in Cubase with an appropriate out channel. Good luck! Keith At 08:55 AM 5/4/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Guy Incognito > >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? > >Thanks, >Gel-Sol >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 19:12:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: gelsol@yahoo.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:24:27 +0000 Subject: Recording Controller Data in CuBase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >* From Guy Incognito > >Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob movements in Cubase? I've tried everything except the way that makes it work.....my Nord Lead works finw when recording knob movements......is it CuBase or the Virus? > >Thanks, >Gel-Sol Have you made sure that the Virus' panel mode is set to "MIDI" rather than "INT"? It's under the Control button some way down. Steve (N-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 00:29:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Still no Response To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Ok, I tried all your guys advice, but still no response.....I get the note-on data, but nothing else....I was trying to record the knob movements I had made to Filter cutoff 1......any other suggestions? Oh yeah, I'm going out of the Virus into a MTP Timepiece AV into a powermac running CuBase 4.0.....if that helps anyone at all.... Thanks Again! Gel-Sol --- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >>Does anyone know how to record the virus' knob >movements in Cubase? >>I've tried everything except the way that makes it >work.....my Nord >>Lead works finw when recording knob >movements......is it CuBase or the >>Virus? > >for me, I plug the MIDI Input cable going to my computer into the MIDI >Output of the Virus, hit record in Cubase, and start twisting knobs. >Works perfectly every time (thx Access!) > >You may want to check out the MIDI Filter in Cubase ... maybe you have >something turned off. On my version (Windows v.3.5.3 [or something like >that]) the MIDI Filter is accessible via the Audio menu... > >Another thing to try is to go into the MIDI setup in Cubase and ensure >that Cubase is indeed paying attention to the MIDI IN that you have >plugged into the Virus' MIDI OUT. > >Yet another thing would be if the MIDI OUT from the Virus was plugged >into another box before it reaches the computer, and that box is not set >to do MIDI THRU (like the Virus' Soft MIDI Thru option...) > >-zs > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 01:14:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:11:04 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Still no Response Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp when you spin the knobs, do the input LEDs on the MTP flicker? If not, you've got a problem between the Virus MIDI OUT and the MTP (or its configuration -- it's a pretty fancy box, right?) If the LEDs flash, then look in Cubase ... the 'IN' meter on the transport bar should illuminate. If it doesn't then you've got a problem between the MTP's out and Cubase ... really make sure that Cubase is paying attention to that particular input. You mentioned that your Nord works fine ... try unplugging the Nord and plugging the Virus into the same INPUT on your MTP ... see what happens then... good luck zs >Ok, I tried all your guys advice, but still no response.....I get the note-on data, but nothing else....I was trying to record the knob movements I had made to Filter cutoff 1......any other suggestions? > >Oh yeah, I'm going out of the Virus into a MTP Timepiece AV into a powermac running CuBase 4.0.....if that helps anyone at all.... > >Thanks Again! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 4 17:40:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:35:29 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Bug in 2.51? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Access, after upgrading to o.s. 2.51 I notice that there is still a click/crack sound from the Virus when stopping my sequencer. (Cubase VST 3.6) It's perhaps not quite as loud as it was in 2.5 but still annoying. Do you plan to fix this? Regards, Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 04:00:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: what next??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus after all these updates and great new features... what could access possibly add to teh virus in a future os update?? if there will ever be one... oh and.... i was just curious... the new viruses comming out now.. will be shiped with OS2.5 will that effect teh price of the synth??(a buddy of mine wants to know:) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 05:23:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 20:25:18 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: what next??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I'd like to see a feature where the virus indicates its current voice usage. I know how much virus-brain power each of my patches consumes, but things get complicated when I'm playing a song with four different patches, some of which have a long decay time and notes overlapping each other. I know this has been suggested before, but I'd just like to (belatedly) second it. Cam At 07:04 PM 5/4/99 -0700, you wrote: >after all these updates and great new features... what could access possibly add to teh virus in a future os update?? if there will ever be one... Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 04:58:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:55:50 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com btw: does any one know how to sync the Virus with Cubase VST/4.0? I had it running perfectly before and just moved and now it just doesn't to work properly! I basically need the configuration in the synchronization menu from CUbase. Thanks! =m= ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 05:00:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:58:22 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Bug in 2.51? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com I've had the same problem/trouble too. Though with 2.5 and not 2.51. =m= Bilbo Bagginz wrote: >* From Bilbo Bagginz > >Hi Access, >after upgrading to o.s. 2.51 I notice that there is still a click/crack sound from the Virus when stopping my sequencer. (Cubase VST 3.6) It's perhaps not quite as loud as it was in 2.5 but still annoying. Do you plan to fix this? > >Regards, >Bilbo Bagginz > >-- >http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:00:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:20:45 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Cam wrote: >* From Cam > >I'd like to see a feature where the virus indicates its current voice usage. I know how much virus-brain power each of my patches consumes, but things get complicated when I'm playing a song with four different patches, some of which have a long decay time and notes overlapping each other. > >I know this has been suggested before, but I'd just like to (belatedly) second it. Yes this would be great! With something like a peak hold function, so that it wouldnīt be necessary to watch this indicator all the time. Or maybe the possibility to switch the LFO-LEDs to that funktion: if LFO 1 is lit there is a consumption of e.g. 9 voices, if LFO 2 is lit there was an overload (a voice has allready been stolen). If you have many overloads this means: buy another Virus ;-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:00:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 03:56:39 EDT Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com I just got Cubase VST 3.6 (windows95) today. The sync works fine for me. Make sure "sync" is lit up on the transport bar; your midi output is selected in the "midi clock" window of the "sync out" box on the sync page; and that the virus receive midi clock option is on "auto". that should be it as far as I know. good luck. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:01:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 03:58:02 EDT Subject: Re: what next??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com In a message dated 5/4/99 10:28:05 PM Central Daylight Time, clockwork@bvl.net writes: << I'd like to see a feature where the virus indicates its current voice usage. I know how much virus-brain power each of my patches consumes, but things get complicated when I'm playing a song with four different patches, some of which have a long decay time and notes overlapping each other. I know this has been suggested before, but I'd just like to (belatedly) second it. Cam >> Yes, I agree! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:14:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:10:03 +0200 Subject: Re: Global Channel, PGM Changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 04 May 1999 10:17:38 -0700, Keith Orpen wrote: >* From Keith Orpen > >Hiya, > >What is the global channel for? I can't get a program change from Cubase to make the Virus change the current Multi ... There is a SYSEX code for selecting MULTIS: F0 00 20 33 01 10 72 00 69 XX F7 where XX is the MULTI number to select. If you use Cubase you might find the driver for the studio module appropriate... CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 10:57:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Updates,saving and patch editors Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 01:34:22 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" >At 3:48 PM +0200 on 04.05.1999 Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: >>I want to up to update but before I do I need to know if I will lose all >my >>current patches. If not fine, otherwise on a Mac with vst how could I >save >>them. > >you can dump all your patches into VST (which you should do as a backup no matter if you are going to update at all) but if everything goes well and you don't acceidetally press the wrong buttons, you won't lose your patches. > >think different! > >Canine > With regards to this subject, does anyone know if it will be possible to save patches using a Yamaha RM1x?! It should be, but I need to know for sure before shelling out the cash! Thanks! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 11:18:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:30:34 +0000 Subject: Re: Global Channel, PGM Changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >* From Keith Orpen > >Hiya, > >What is the global channel for? I can't get a program change from Cubase to make the Virus change the current Multi ... I do that all the time with my Nord. Whassup? Isn't that the point of a global channel? I guess I'm doing something wrong... > >Keith > You have also to enable the Multi Prog Change parameter. It's a few items further down the control menu from Global Channel. BTW, the global Chanel is also the channel used for reception when in single mode. Steve. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 13:59:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 07:55:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Global Channel, PGM Changes From: "jmw/cmu" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "jmw/cmu" >There is a SYSEX code for selecting MULTIS: F0 00 20 33 01 10 72 00 69 XX F7 >where XX is the MULTI number to select. This only works if the virus is already in multi mode. Does anyone know how do get the Virus to switch from one mode to another via sysex? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 15:51:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Esabuc@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:41:12 EDT Subject: virus KB sightings??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Esabuc@aol.com Has anyone seen one for sale yet? If not any word on when? thanks chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 17:41:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:36:04 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access list Subject: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hey folks, some of you may have already visited Canine Website. A few weeks ago, I left one of my biggest wishes on the wish list (which then was only in german...): A faster envelope (decay time) to generate some real clicking (kicking) sounds. I mean not only bassdrums. I added as a reference synth the Korg Mono/Poly. Canine then added, that a self oscillating filter is the second thing to be needed for these kind of sounds. Now my question to the users of virtual analogue synths like Microwave XT, Nord Lead / Modular etc.: Does any of those synths, that is fully digital (before the DAC) have a faster envelope, than those of the V? Or is the V the world champion regarding fast envelopes? If the latter is true, I will shut my mouth. I already tested the JP 8080 and the Nord Lead. They both sounded good, especially the JP, but I finally decided to buy the V. Any comments? regards -- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 18:08:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: REarly@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:02:10 EDT Subject: Changed Patch To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From REarly@aol.com Last night, while working on a song, the Vocoder patch I was using suddenly changed, the sound became much thinner and started to click. I turned the virus off and back on several times but the patch wasn't restored. Anybody have any ideas as to what might have caused it, and how to get the patch back? It was a preset patch (except for slightly modified filter settings.) Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 18:23:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:25:12 +0200 Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Lars Herrlein >Does any of those synths, that is fully digital (before the DAC) have a faster envelope, than those of the V? Or is the V the world champion regarding fast envelopes? If the latter is true, I will shut my mouth. > >I already tested the JP 8080 and the Nord Lead. They both sounded good, especially the JP, but I finally decided to buy the V. > >Any comments? Hi Lars, IMO the Envelope of the Virus is not too slow, but it has something like a random timing (hope you unterstand). But this gives a lot of sounds charme, besides many other factors. I also have a Nord Rack 2 and IMO it has very quick, but sterile sounding envelopes. The whole Nord is sounding sterile, but on same tracks its the kind of sound that I need. I donīt know the JP so well - I donīt like its sound exepting this supersaw waveform. The AN1x is also a nice one (I also have). It sometimes sounds a little bit like the Nord Lead, also has quite quick envelopes. Maybe you should take a look at it - its a totally crazy synth, but hard to program without software, and its cheap because Yahaha has discontinued it. Hope this helps Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 18:46:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Got it!!!!! To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Ok, I got it to work, but i don't know how.....I switched midi cables, but i don't think that was it cuz CuBase received note-on data all along......screwy computer......screwy humans........... Thanks for all the help! Gel-Sol --- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >when you spin the knobs, do the input LEDs on the MTP flicker? > >If not, you've got a problem between the Virus MIDI OUT and the MTP (or >its configuration -- it's a pretty fancy box, right?) > >If the LEDs flash, then look in Cubase ... the 'IN' meter on the >transport bar should illuminate. > >If it doesn't then you've got a problem between the MTP's out and Cubase >... really make sure that Cubase is paying attention to that particular >input. > >You mentioned that your Nord works fine ... try unplugging the Nord and >plugging the Virus into the same INPUT on your MTP ... see what happens >then... > >good luck >zs > > > >>Ok, I tried all your guys advice, but still no >response.....I get the >>note-on data, but nothing else....I was trying to >record the knob >>movements I had made to Filter cutoff 1......any >other suggestions? >> >>Oh yeah, I'm going out of the Virus into a MTP >Timepiece AV into a >>powermac running CuBase 4.0.....if that helps >anyone at all.... >> >>Thanks Again! > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:15:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:06:45 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:38 PM +0200 on 05.05.1999 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >Any comments? I think this is simply ingenious. And I mean it. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:15:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:08:22 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Changed Patch Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:02 PM +0200 on 05.05.1999 REarly@aol.com wrote: >Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? > >Rob yes, just save the same patch from the C or D bank into the slot where you were editing it. You may have to update to OS 2.5 before you an actually see the C and D banks if you haven't already done so. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:15:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:11:08 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:25 PM +0200 on 05.05.1999 Raymund Beyer wrote: >IMO the Envelope of the Virus is not too slow, but it has something like a random timing (hope you unterstand). But this gives a lot of sounds charme, besides many other factors. I also have a Nord Rack 2 and IMO it has very quick, but sterile sounding envelopes. The whole Nord is sounding sterile, but on same tracks its the kind of sound that I need. I don't know what it is, but a Korg MS-20 has a much louder, much more defined sound for short, percussive sounds. I guessed that this has to do with the self-oscillating filters. Then again, the Nord Lead does not have filters that self oscillate and still its envelopes are much better suited for bass drums than the Virus'. They seem to have more energy. But the filter always sounds like a Nord, so they (Clavia) may have "cheated". No seriously I bet this kind of energy would be possible for the Virus but it would most likely change the overall sound of the synth. And I wouldn't want that. Better save this for a possible Virus II. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:29:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:24:46 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Got it!!!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Ok, I got it to work, but i don't know how.....I switched midi cables, but i don't think that was it cuz CuBase received note-on data all along......screwy computer......screwy humans........... I wasn't aware that the Virus was capable of sending a note-on message... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 19:36:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:31:52 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Any comments? I agree with my fellow listmembers that I'd like some indication of how many voices are currently being used (maybe with a peak hold for x number of seconds). There have been many occasions when I've been curious if I'm running up against the polyphony limit of this wonderful machine ... and usually I don't have the patience to open up all my tracks in cubase and count how many are used. As far as a voice-stealing indicator, I'm not sure how useful this would be. Like Christoph Kemper said, if you can hear the note stealing, then you can do something about it. If you can't hear the note stealing, then it's not an issue and you are worrying about something that you shouldn't be worrying about! But some indicator of # of voices being used would be helpful when deciding whether *another* track can safely be given to the Virus... my USD$.02 (DM .04) -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 20:28:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:27:34 +0200 Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >Any comments? ----- Thanks Christoph for giving us so much insight in your thoughts! And the current *stealing algorithm* is brilliant! Any many of your thoughts are wright also in my opinion. >If a >voice steal happens that affects the musical performance, I can hear it, since I created the music. Well okay. But quite oftem making music is a quite choatic process and sometimes I loose the clearness over all the signals especially when customers are sitting around and all the handys are ringing.... a normal day. So it sometimes happenes, that a pads voices are stolen and I donīt notice it, maybe also because there is some delay on it. After hearing this a few times (without having noticed it) Iīll maybe take it as it is . And for that such an indicator would be useful, because it warnes my that something MIGHT go wrong, without hearing every track in solo on the desk. I donīt think its a *must* feature, but IMO it could help me with my daily work. It would be similar to Logics and Cubases CPU meter, that warn me not to open more VST plug-ins. The Virus would warn me not to use him for the next signal and I would try to do it with another synth. >If the Virus simply shows the current amout of voices per part, you might not see if a voice is really stolen or has just ended regulary. This indicator should not work only for one part, but for the whole CPU usage IMO. >Example: >Usually the Virus demo song would produce a couple of audible voice stealings. Since it combines pad sounds with drum sounds, the hihat sounds would steal the pads. Using the Virus voice stealing the hihats will steal another hihat instead of the pads, because the hihats are decaying fast. This is absolutely inaudible, I checked this for hours. Sure, this is done very well (BTW, I really like the Demo, why donīt you make a record out of it?). But in the padpart you can hear that the pad does not play relaxed (you sure know what I mean - its because the release is very short). And some things like these happen all the day and oftem I donīt have the time to listen to it for hours.... Anyway: there is still a feature that would be much more important for me: the controller dump feature for the Multi stuff!! I donīt know if you are planning to do this, but the Multi-SIngle patch controller dump has allready saved me so much time, because now there is no more need to tantalize the Virus knobs until I have found the parameter iīm searching for. It also would be great if the patch names were included. And again I have to say thanx for the support you Access guys are giving us! I also love the Virus running a bass in 12-voice mode - this reminds me of the great Sequential Circuits Pro one ;-))) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 20:45:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:32:48 +0200 Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >No seriously I bet this kind of energy >would be possible for the Virus but it would most likely change the overall sound of the synth. And I wouldn't want that. Better save this for a possible Virus II. 100% agreed! ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 21:36:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:33:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>Split Mode: If RM volume is anything other than 0, you get the Oscillators (not the RM signal!) at full volume. >No, this is not what I meant. >I set RM to != 0 and then right back to 0 (zero) and the V puts out the sound as with vol !=0. You're probably still holding down a key. Pressing again gives you silence... it's just another little symptom of the same flaw - which will be fixed very soon by the wonderful Access team, if I'm not mistaken! >I'm not sure what I hear: The RM or Osc sounding IMO the oscillators at full volume (you can check this by setting both oscillators to SINE and twisting SEMITONE). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 10:48:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:48:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I am not really happy about this idea. >....Any comments? >Christoph Kemper Personally, I've never missed an indicator for this. However, I mainly use singles and record to audio. BTW: Your method is really good! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 22:10:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:07:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus and the MPC: A happy or dysfunctional family? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Hello all, I use an Akai MPC as the center of my little studio (anyone unfamiliar with the MPC-- its a sampling drum machine/sequencer that's capable enough to do most things professionally for those of us who don't want to do our sequencing in front of a computer monitor) Anyway I digress. For some reason, when I try to load Virus O.S.'s (its' happened when I got 2.5 and again with 2.51) the MPC tells me it doesn't have enough memory to do it. It's just a single floppy, though, and the MPC's Load/Save screen shows me that the O.S.'s file size is just over 500 K AND it says that the MPC has more than that amount of sequence space available. I have successfully loaded the O.S.'s by carting my Virus to a studio equipped with a Macintosh and Studio Vision, but that's obviously a bit of an inconvenience. Any thoughts on what's going on here? (Step away from the monitor, put the internet down reeeeal slow, and nobody's gonna get hurt...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 23:41:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:48:03 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus KB sightings??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD virus boards are 4-6 weeks out \ i heard this from a fairly reliable connection last week all the best weld Esabuc@aol.com wrote: >* From Esabuc@aol.com > >Has anyone seen one for sale yet? >If not any word on when? > >thanks >chris >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 23:42:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:49:27 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: virus rack for sale Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i have a virus rack in greal condition for sale im asking 900$ and will pay for shipping as a charter member of this list many will vouge all the best weld Esabuc@aol.com wrote: >* From Esabuc@aol.com > >Has anyone seen one for sale yet? >If not any word on when? > >thanks >chris >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 02:23:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:19:31 EDT Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 11:17:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 02:56:50 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >>But in the padpart you can hear that the pad does not play relaxed (you sure >>know what I mean - its because the release is very short). > >Not true. They don't sound relaxed because they are played sometimes too layed-back and unsteady. >You can hear the free releasing pads when the full beat comes in. This is a point where the pads would be stolen immediately by the drums, when a classical note steal is used. I wonīt count the voices now ;-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 04:21:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:45:44 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >From VirusMPC@aol.com >I just got Cubase VST 3.6 (windows95) today. If you get frustrated with Cubase's bugs and bullshit, you might want to check out Logic Audio. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 08:58:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 06:51:41 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 6 May 1999 13:45:44 +1200, "Thomas Whitmore" wrote: >If you get frustrated with Cubase's bugs and bullshit, you might want to check out Logic Audio. Or, better still, report the steps needed to recreate these bugs and then you'll know if anyone else can duplicate them. Hell, then they might even get fixed. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 09:02:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:00:37 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Christoph, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >For a punchy filter attack, did somebody try the PUNCH intensity??? It is built for those sounds. Yes, I already set punch to 127. Not, that I want to complain about that. The attack really rocks, yeah! "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >.... >They seem to have more energy. But the filter always sounds like a Nord, so they (Clavia) may have "cheated". No seriously I bet this kind of energy would be possible for the Virus but it would most likely change the overall sound of the synth. And I wouldn't want that. Better save this for a possible Virus II. > >think different! > >Canine Which leaves the question: Is there a chance in the market for another V? Althogh V 2 or V II would be a horrible name..... ???? Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 09:23:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:19:05 -0700 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket I have no idea why people have difficulty making drums on the Virus. A self-oscillating filter would be nice but is not actually necessary for drums if you have a perfectly fine sine wave oscillator. On the Virus, you even have two of them. I have made some very fine bass drums without using the filter at all. Anything from a subtle 'pop' to a window rattling 'DOOMMMMMMM'. Bass drum tips: remember to set keyboard tracking to 0 on both oscillators, set phase init to any value other than 0, use the click feature, and use the filter (resonance at 0) to control the sharpness of the click. Set up one oscillator to do the main sound (maybe with a nice fast high-to-low frequency sweep, use an LFO for that with env mode sawtooth), and set up the other oscillator to provide a subsonic tone, for added oomph. I'll upload my drum sounds as soon as I get round to it, and if anyone is interested. They also include snares, which don't use the noise generator (again, just the oscillators), and a clap which I'm very happy with. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 09:36:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:32:33 +0200 Subject: Re: Changed Patch Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Wed, 5 May 1999 12:02:10 EDT, REarly@aol.com wrote: >Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? If you use Cubase and the studio module you can load the entire bank into the AUX-bank of the studio module. When selecting SINGLEs from an AUX bank the whole patch data of this SINGLE will be transferred into the VIRUS' edit buffer (it won't be stored unless you press the store button). CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 10:02:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:59:59 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V (compared to other synths) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Ronald, Ronald Pieket wrote: >I have no idea why people have difficulty making drums on the Virus. A self-oscillating filter would be nice but is not actually necessary for drums if you have a perfectly fine sine wave oscillator. On the Virus, you even have two of them. I have made some very fine bass drums without using the filter at all. Anything from a subtle 'pop' to a window rattling 'DOOMMMMMMM'. I know that I can create real kicking bassdrums with the V. There are some good already shipping with in the box, e.g. the 908 BD sound. But as I wrote in my first mail, it's not only the bdrum sounds that I want. >I'll upload my drum sounds as soon as I get round to it, and if anyone is interested. They also include snares, which don't use the noise generator (again, just the oscillators), and a clap which I'm very happy with. I AM interested. bye Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 10:48:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Controller Data in CuBase: Got it!!!!! Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:46:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I wasn't aware that the Virus was capable of sending a note-on message... That was my first thought reading that message. But: See MIDI, ArpeggSend :-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 18:26:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:15:13 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V - ***sounds uploaded*** Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Ok, I've uploaded them. There's a ZIP file, which I made with a new utility (on Macintosh). Can you PC-people unzip this successfully? Just in case, the unzipped MID file is also there. And just in case you can't start an indirect download from your email window, there's an HTML file with both other files as links. Take your pick. http://www.happysad.org/virdrums.zip http://www.happysad.org/virdrums.mid http://www.happysad.org/temp.html There's one midi file with eleven sounds, one sound per bar. Each bar contains a sysex message, and a three note demonstration. If you play the midi file to your Access Virus, you will hear the sounds play, slowly, one by one. Simply stop the sequencer at a sound you like, and press the [store] button on your Virus. Some remarks about how the sounds were made: all three bassdrums use the technique I described earlier. That is, they do NOT use a resonant filter, but an oscillator set to sine wave. The filter is used in non-resonant mode for further shaping. SNARE1 and HIHAT2 are made with oscillators, and no noise generator. This makes them sound different from the preset ones. There's a clap which was inspired by a thread on this mailing list - although the method I eventually used is quite different from the one described in the thread. There is a finger-snip which is a variant of the clap sound. Note: several sounds (notably clap and snip) will only work with Virus OS 2.5+! Upgrade if you haven't done so already! Feedback would be appreciated. - Ronald. Lars Herrlein wrote: > >* From Lars Herrlein > >Hello Ronald, > >Ronald Pieket wrote: >>I have no idea why people have difficulty making drums on the Virus. A self-oscillating filter would be nice but is not actually necessary for drums if you have a perfectly fine sine wave oscillator. On the Virus, you even have two of them. I have made some very fine bass drums without using the filter at all. Anything from a subtle 'pop' to a window rattling 'DOOMMMMMMM'. > >I know that I can create real kicking bassdrums with the V. There are some good already shipping with in the box, e.g. the 908 BD sound. >But as I wrote in my first mail, it's not only the bdrum sounds that I want. > >>I'll upload my drum sounds as soon as I get round to it, and if anyone is interested. They also include snares, which don't use the noise generator (again, just the oscillators), and a clap which I'm very happy with. > >I AM interested. > >bye Lars >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 11:24:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:22:42 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Split Mode & Ringmodulator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >I mentioned in an earlier mail, that the ring modulator does not work in combination with the split mode. The reasons: Ah, O.k. I missed that mail. >The oscillator algorithm is highly optimized. The split mode is an additional optimized program that is switched to the oscillators. So is the ring modulator. Split mode together with ring mod requires a totally new additional program that combines both features, which is very complicated, because it must not exceed a specific calculation power. This is simply not done yet. thanks -- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 12:11:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:07:23 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 6 May 1999 02:56:50 +0200, you wrote: >I won4t count the voices now ;-) I never had cos I use Single mode. ;-) Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. Possible? It would be good to layer another synth internally with the Virus whilst keeping in Single mode. Probably nobody else wants this though, eh? Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 12:24:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:14:38 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 05.05.99 19:34:51 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >>This indicator should not work only for one part, but for the whole CPU usage IMO. >This is a very good idea! >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. If the LED flashes dark, a stealing occured, >but it is inaudible; nevertheless it indicates that no more polyphony should be added. >If the LED flashes bright, a 'hard' voice stealing happened, even if it might >not be audible in a busy arrangement, but it has to be checked. In general, the behavior of the LED directly reflects the voice stealing situation, in time and amplitude. >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? Yesyes!! This is the point. That would be very useful and I think this is what the others that wanted this feature tried to explain. If itīs so easy to implement - great! It looks like we can hope ;-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 12:38:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:33:16 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Paul Nagle wrote: >Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. Possible? It would be good to layer another synth internally with the Virus whilst keeping in Single mode. Probably nobody else wants this though, eh? I want anything that may give me exciting sounds :-) But this should work in Multi Mode if you take the same sound and use the input with the second sound?! A good idea. Iīll try it out. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 15:24:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:20:52 +0200 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness as i am using my beloved virus mostly in input mode with feedbacking the output, i would be very happy to see this implemented! Paul Nagle wrote: Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. Possible? It would be good to layer another synth internally with the Virus whilst keeping in Single mode. Probably nobody else wants this though, eh? Paul  ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 15:57:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:54:08 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: > >This is a very good idea! >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. If the LED flashes dark, a stealing occured, but it is inaudible; nevertheless it indicates that no more polyphony should be added. >If the LED flashes bright, a 'hard' voice stealing happened, even if it might not be audible in a busy arrangement, but it has to be checked. In general, the behavior of the LED directly reflects the voice stealing situation, in time and amplitude. >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? > >Christoph Kemper >access music Hi all ! Yeah, this is a very good thing.Especially for people with less equipment this function is very usefull.And I think there are many people using the VIRUS as the main synth for basses, leads, pads or whatever. Greetings Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 16:22:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: REarly@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:13:37 EDT Subject: Re: Changed Patch To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From REarly@aol.com In a message dated 5/5/99 1:23:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, canine@muenster.de writes: << > Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the >entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? > >Rob yes, just save the same patch from the C or D bank into the slot where you were editing it. You may have to update to OS 2.5 before you an actually see the C and D banks if you haven't already done so. think different! Canine >> Thank you, I upgraded to OS 2.51 and all works again. Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 16:37:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Drum sounds Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:35:06 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Set up one oscillator to do the main sound (maybe with a nice fast high-to-low frequency sweep, use an LFO for that with env mode sawtooth), and set up the other oscillator to provide a subsonic tone, for added oomph. Tip for LFO: Assign LFOx to LFOxRate (to control its own shape!). You can also get LFO PWM and other wierd stuff using this method. >...and a clap which I'm very happy with. I made one (which I'm not quite so happy with) - looking forward to trying yours. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 20:42:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:35:59 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >voice stealing, I never had the feeling to need a display for this. If a voice steal happens that affects the musical performance, I can hear it, since I created the music. If I don't hear voice stealing, it did not happen, I mostly agree - I can usually notice very quickly when I am losing a voice in one of my pieces. But your explanation of the voice-stealing algorithm is very interesting, suddenly I understand why my kick drums may sound strange with too many other parts going. So I could live without a voice stealing count. However a 'peak' indicator might be useful...perhaps if the stealing occurs which is not the in the decay or release stage, the multi+single buttons could flash or something. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 20:45:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 20:48:31 +0200 Subject: Re: Envelopes of the V - ***sounds uploaded*** From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >Feedback would be appreciated. > >- Ronald. Thanx Ronald, great!!! You are a real good sound designer! The SD1 is an extremetly good sound, also as starting point for further edits. I just added some velocity stuff and got some very strange sounding.... - I donīt know what :-) but very percussive and electronically! Claps & Snpis are great too:-) Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 23:34:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:29:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Access vs. Waldorf To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand What exactly is the relationship between Waldorf and Access? Is Waldorf merely a distributor for the Virus? Is Access is subsidiary of Waldorf? Confused, - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 23:34:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand What's up with the unconcern about interoperability between the Access Virus and Windows?!? Is it really not possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows? Isn't Waldorf being a wee bit jerky by not making sure the OS upgrades work with the most popular computer operating system on earth? I don't own a Mac because Macs are too bloody expensive. Thanks. - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 6 23:40:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:33:05 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >What's up with the unconcern about interoperability between the Access Virus and Windows?!? Is it really not possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows? No, it's *totally* possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows. What on earth gave you this impression? >Isn't Waldorf being a wee bit jerky by not making sure the OS upgrades work with the most popular computer operating system on earth? What do Waldorf have to do with anything? The Access Virus has *always* been easy to upgrade, OS wise, no matter whether you're using a PC, a Mac, or (in my case) a Yamaha QY700 sequencer... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:25:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:25:39 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Frater, Well, you can't use Windows Midi Player to load Access OS updates. You have to have a "real" sequencer - if that's what you mean. But you can't use QuickTime Midi Player for Mac either. Cubase, Logic, and even the latest Cakewalk all work. It has to do with SYSEX string handling. See the FAQ on the MW2 page of the Waldorf Website for a good explanation. TSI is a distributor for Waldorf products. TSI also makes the Virus. They also share a Tech person. And Macs aren't too darn expensive. They're pretty competetive these days, and offer very good bang-for-buck. But this isn't a Mac-vs-PC forum. Finally, RELAX! Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:28:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:28:09 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE One more thing regarding "Mac Expense": I do have a number of friends who seriously have tried to convince me that Windows is a better platform because of the availability of "cracked" software on places like alt.binaries.sounds.utilities (which almost never has any Mac cracks due to Mac copy protection schemes). That's a bogus argument. I buy my software. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:54:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "terminal bliss" To: Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:58:56 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "terminal bliss" >The Access Virus has *always* been easy to upgrade, OS wise, no matter whether you're using a PC, a Mac, or (in my case) a Yamaha QY700 sequencer... i wouldnt say that. i used to be competely unable to do it with my setup.. cubase vst for windows with a motu midi express xt. i also tried the windows midi player as someone suggested. it still wasnt working. however, i did some stuff with my computer, upgraded to win98, etc, and when the os2.0 came out (i originally had 1.5 and couldnt upgrade anything) it worked fine. it may be attributed to possible cubase upgrades, something changing in the way the files were made (i remember they did something because you couldnt load it on your yamaha sequencer midi type 0 instead of 1? something like this..) who knows? patch dumps never worked properly either... however, all is well. i can upgrade, and ive really been amazed at what access has included in the upgrades.. daniel terminal@xnet.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:20:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:06:15 EDT Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com In a message dated 5/6/99 5:57:19 PM Central Daylight Time, djdeluxe@home.com writes: << * From Elwood Smith you cannot do it that way with the mpc, I believe i was on Akai website some guy created a utility that splits up the virus os allowing you to be able to load using floppy disk, the easiest method id the computer >> Yes, once again here is why. >* From VirusMPC@aol.com >Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. >The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 >MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:29:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:09:28 EDT Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Here's what I use to install the OS in my Virus from Windows. ftp://ftp.rolandus.com/pub/roland/libdata/MISC/SMFPLAYR.ZIP This is a simple but great little program for those of you who haven't used it. Plus it's free! =) Happy tweaking! BURUFUNK ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:30:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:28:50 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp dude you're a freak >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >What's up with the unconcern about interoperability between the Access Virus and Windows?!? Is it really not possible to upgrade the Virus OS using Windows? > >Isn't Waldorf being a wee bit jerky by not making sure the OS upgrades work with the most popular computer operating system on earth? > >I don't own a Mac because Macs are too bloody expensive. > >Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:37:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:35:09 -0700 Subject: ? on updating to 2.5.1 From: "hak" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hak" excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? respects, -- http://liberty.ispree.net/hak urban_assault[99]info:408.882.5064 www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:30:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 19:38:37 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i have a older mpc60 i picked up cheap, and ive talked a few people into the same sequencer with great results. its very intuitive, and quick for writing, you forget about it. weld Elwood Smith wrote: >* From Elwood Smith > >you cannot do it that way with the mpc, I believe i was on Akai website some guy created a utility that splits up the virus os allowing you to be able to load using floppy disk, the easiest method id the computer > >VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: >> >>* From VirusMPC@aol.com >> >>>I use an Akai MPC as the center of my little studio (anyone unfamiliar with the MPC-- its a sampling drum machine/sequencer that's capable enough to do most things professionally for those of us who don't want to do our sequencing in front of a computer monitor) Anyway I digress. For some reason, when I try to load Virus O.S.'s (its' happened when I got 2.5 and again with 2.51) the MPC tells me it doesn't have enough memory to do it. It's just a single floppy, though, and the MPC's Load/Save screen shows me that the O.S.'s file size is just over 500 K AND >>it says that the MPC has more than that amount of sequence space available. >>I have successfully loaded the O.S.'s by carting my Virus to a studio equipped with a Macintosh and Studio Vision, but that's obviously a bit of an inconvenience. Any thoughts on what's going on here?> >> >>Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 01:37:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:40:43 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam For the record, I had absolutely no problem loading my OS upgrade. I'm using Windows, Cubase VST 3.6, and a Soundblaster AWE-64 sound card. Kudos, Access. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 02:06:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:00:25 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. I like this idea too, but I suggest you do not put it on the LFO rate LED. Already they are working to do LFO rate and input level, and I am usually very interested to watch what is going on with that. Why not flash some other LED, like the Saturation or transpose LEDs? This would give some information without giving up knowing about what the Virus is doing already. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 02:06:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:00:27 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Paul Nagle wrote... >Actually, the only addition I'd like would be a means of adding an external signal at the same time as the internal oscillators - or perhaps replacing just one oscillator with an external signal. But you can already do this very easily in multi mode, and you are not giving up any oscillators (eg for big unison patches) to do so. I can't see what is so great about working in single mode, when the Virus does multi-mode so well. But then I like to record by just hitting the Record button on the tape - multitracking is not so interesting to me because I want to be as 'live' as possible. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 02:16:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:14:55 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp dude just try it ... you can't break anything if your system is unable to update it... peas >excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? > >respects, >-- >http://liberty.ispree.net/hak >urban_assault[99]info:408.882.5064 >www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ====================================================== ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:50:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:11:48 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) >>check out Logic Audio. >Or, better still, report the steps needed to recreate these bugs and then you'll know if anyone else can duplicate them. Hell, then they might even get fixed. Been there, tried that, Steinberg don't bother to respond. I actually went to substantial effort, which could have benefited them; now I wouldn't spit on a Steinberg employee if they paid me. As a professional software designer / developer, I identify numerous flaws in every part of Steinberg's design. This poor design means the product will *never* be good or reliable. I have more coarse things to say about Steinberg & employees. But luckily for my gentle readers I decided not to. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 03:11:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: chill To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand Thanks folks. The official Virus web page said something about the OS upgrade not working on Cakewalk for Windows, and only possibly working in Cubase, which is why I asked... Thanks Buru, you read my mind - I'll give that a try when my Virus arrives - hopefully tomorrow. - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 03:24:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:26:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand >dude you're a freak Correction: I'm a super-freak. Y'all: Which box is better at producing lush, gorgeous yet scary dark ambient pads? The Virus or the Supernova? Weird question to ask, I suppose, on a Virus list. I liked the Virus enough to buy one, but I heard a guy playing the SuperNova next to me and it was producing some incredibly lush dark ambient pads. Is it all a matter of programming, or are there limitations on the Virus compared with the Supernova? Does anyone have both? Is it true that the Virus is limited for producing phat bass sounds? Would I be better off sticking with my Juno 106 for those? What's the TB-303 emulation like on the Virus? Not that it matters much - the TB-303 sound is hackneyed, there's Rebirth and the Phatboy controller for that anyway. Just curious. Couldn't afford both (supernova) - I figured the Virus was a better all-around box, and I loved the compactness and lay-out of the Virus; seems like something that would be just the thing for live performances. It begs to be gigged. I'm really looking forward to programming sounds on it; again, seems really easy and organic. Sorry if it sounded like I was slamming the Virus; wouldn't have purchased one if I wasn't already a believer. - F. One last thing - for now - if you could have a 2nd Virus or a Supernova (in addition to the Virus you already own), which would it be and why? Does the Supernova really have no major strengths over the Virus? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 00:40:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:33:54 -0700 From: Elwood Smith Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus and the MPC: A happy or.... *the answer* Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elwood Smith you cannot do it that way with the mpc, I believe i was on Akai website some guy created a utility that splits up the virus os allowing you to be able to load using floppy disk, the easiest method id the computer VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: > >* From VirusMPC@aol.com > >I use an Akai MPC as the center of my little studio (anyone unfamiliar with the MPC-- its a sampling drum machine/sequencer that's capable enough to do most things professionally for those of us who don't want to do our sequencing in front of a computer monitor) Anyway I digress. For some reason, when I try to load Virus O.S.'s (its' happened when I got 2.5 and again with 2.51) the MPC tells me it doesn't have enough memory to do it. It's just a single floppy, though, and the MPC's Load/Save screen shows me that the O.S.'s file size is just over 500 K AND >it says that the MPC has more than that amount of sequence space available. >I have successfully loaded the O.S.'s by carting my Virus to a studio equipped with a Macintosh and Studio Vision, but that's obviously a bit of an inconvenience. Any thoughts on what's going on here?> > >Hello. I too use the MPC. The MPC3000. I had this same problem, but after consulting the manual, I found out it just won't work in this situation. The Virus OS is in a midi file, but it is actualy Sys-Ex (system exclusive) data. The MPC can have tons of midi data loaded at any given time, but only 1000 bytes (1K) of Sys-Ex data. This is enough for single patch data (even a few patches, say from the patch section of Canine's page, which I have tried and it works) but not enough say for a whole bank of sounds, or the Virus OS. I had to load up the OS update into Cubase VST and then play it to the Virus. I'm not sure which MPC you are using (the 2000 or 3000), but it is explained under the "Recording MIDI System-Exclusive Data" section (page 70 of the v3.0 MPC3000 manual). Hope this answers your question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:17:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:12:42 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From "hak" >excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? Probably. Any sequencer, MIDI interface and OS *should* work fine. The MIDI SysEx protocol is very simple and has been standardized for years - probably in the very first mid-80s MIDI specs. There are very few excuses for a system which doesn't work in this respect. And one good reason to return it to the dealer. With a slack product there are likely to be many other problems also. Both consumer protection & contract law (MIDI compatible; MIDI spec includes SysEx) give strong cases to return *any* product which does not work in this manner at *any* time after purchase. Don't be stuck holding the turd. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:13:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:21:02 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: chill Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD its cakewalk that sucks! W Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >Thanks folks. > >The official Virus web page said something about the OS upgrade not working on Cakewalk for Windows, and only possibly working in Cubase, which is why I asked... > >Thanks Buru, you read my mind - I'll give that a try when my Virus arrives - hopefully tomorrow. > >- F. > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:27:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Patch fuckout - workaround! Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:21:41 +1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi list & Christoph, I've been getting good results from OS 2.51, and the modulation matrix. But while experimenting on Vi-bass patch with LFO 1 envelope, LFO 1 -> Osc 1 controlled by Assign, and Filt Env -> Osc 2 also controlled by Assign... The sound broke. It went all thin and buzzy. I tried to restore it by clearing Assigns, LFO 1 and checking Osc parameters but couldn't. I reverted to the original Vi-bass patch and started tweaking modulations again. After a while it broke again, similarly; and then the brain wave... Compare mode! Comparing original patch, and then back to edited sound... obviously rebuilt internally, and restored to former glory. Sorted :-) Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:13:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:21:44 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD neither...............waldorf microwave series or wavestation w Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >>dude you're a freak > >Correction: I'm a super-freak. > >Y'all: > >Which box is better at producing lush, gorgeous yet scary dark ambient pads? The Virus or the Supernova? Weird question to ask, I suppose, on a Virus list. I liked the Virus enough to buy one, but I heard a guy playing the SuperNova next to me and it was producing some incredibly lush dark ambient pads. > >Is it all a matter of programming, or are there limitations on the Virus compared with the Supernova? Does anyone have both? > >Is it true that the Virus is limited for producing phat bass sounds? Would I be better off sticking with my Juno 106 for those? > >What's the TB-303 emulation like on the Virus? Not that it matters much - the TB-303 sound is hackneyed, there's Rebirth and the Phatboy controller for that anyway. Just curious. > >Couldn't afford both (supernova) - I figured the Virus was a better all-around box, and I loved the compactness and lay-out of the Virus; seems like something that would be just the thing for live performances. It begs to be gigged. > >I'm really looking forward to programming sounds on it; again, seems really easy and organic. > >Sorry if it sounded like I was slamming the Virus; wouldn't have purchased one if I wasn't already a believer. > >- F. > >One last thing - for now - if you could have a 2nd Virus or a Supernova (in addition to the Virus you already own), which would it be and why? Does the Supernova really have no major strengths over the Virus? > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 04:38:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:24:43 EDT Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 To: access-list@teklab.com, hak1@earthlink.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 5/6/99 6:46:02 PM, hak1@earthlink.net writes: << excuse the newbie question. i'm running SVPro 4.2.2b7 and have a studio 128x. will this suffice to update my virus? >> I have been able to update the Virus with VisionDSP 4.2 and a Studio 4. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 05:26:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:48:38 EDT Subject: Re: ? on updating to 2.5.1 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/6/99 7:43:21 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Marzzz@aol.com writes: >I have been able to update the Virus with VisionDSP 4.2 and a Studio 4. > >Marshall I updated my Virus with StudioVision Pro V3.? and a Studio 4, but I had to get the tempo setting right. 120bpm worked fine, but slower ones didn't work (I tried 60bpm first, but no go...). 120 worked fine and now my Virus is flying :-) Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 06:33:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:32:39 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Have thought to try a Waldorf Microwave XT? =m= Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >>dude you're a freak > >Correction: I'm a super-freak. > >Y'all: > >Which box is better at producing lush, gorgeous yet scary dark ambient pads? The Virus or the Supernova? Weird question to ask, I suppose, on a Virus list. I liked the Virus enough to buy one, but I heard a guy playing the SuperNova next to me and it was producing some incredibly lush dark ambient pads. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 06:36:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:36:15 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Why are you so bitter? =m= Thomas Whitmore wrote: >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >>From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) > >>>check out Logic Audio. > >>Or, better still, report the steps needed to recreate these bugs and then you'll know if anyone else can duplicate them. Hell, then they might even get fixed. > >Been there, tried that, Steinberg don't bother to respond. I actually went to substantial effort, which could have benefited them; now I wouldn't spit on a Steinberg employee if they paid me. > >As a professional software designer / developer, I identify numerous flaws in every part of Steinberg's design. This poor design means the product will *never* be good or reliable. > >I have more coarse things to say about Steinberg & employees. But luckily for my gentle readers I decided not to. > >Cheers, >Thomas > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 08:22:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:17:17 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From monokrom@sirius.com >Why are you so bitter? I find non-functional products and false advertising, to be offensive. Since I personally buy stuff, and personally communicate (well one way!) with tech support, I am personally offended. Seeing as you brought it up again : I liken Steinberg & employees to monkeys who s*ck themselves. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 09:23:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:23:37 +0200 From: Klaus Kessner X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: digest? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Klaus Kessner is there a digest version of this discussion list? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 09:30:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 03:28:28 EDT Subject: Re: Cubase To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com >>I find non-functional products and false advertising, to be offensive. Since I personally buy stuff, and personally communicate (well one way!) with tech support, I am personally offended. Seeing as you brought it up again : I liken Steinberg & employees to monkeys who s*ck themselves.<< I hear you. But I opted to buy Cubase over Logic because I wasn't going to reward anymore business to Emagic after their damn obnoxious copy protection scemes (can't install Sound Diver on Quadra), bug ridden Logic Audio Discovery software (which is so bad, I don't know if I will ever get my work mixed), totally false installation instructions (there is no install program, despite what is written), missing written documentation, flakey hardware (Audiowerk8, non functioning right out of the box), and their total lack support for the new G3 Macintoshs. I won't buy anything more from Steinberg either, I am boycotting all copy protected software from this point on. They can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. I send my support to the following: "Finale" (Music notation, midi control of synths) NO COPY PROTECTION "DeckII" (Multi-track recording) NO COPY PROTECTION "SoundEdit" (Waveform editting) NO COPY PROTECTION ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:00:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 08:56:32 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 6 May 1999 11:35:59 -0700, you wrote: >I mostly agree - I can usually notice very quickly when I am losing a voice in one of my pieces. But your explanation of the voice-stealing algorithm is I never lose voices; all my synths run in Single mode. ;-) Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:13:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 7 May 99 03:11:37 MDT From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: controllers Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Da Kid Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to be used with Access Virus? Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? thx. ziyue. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:33:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: IoS - Hannes Meder Organization: IoS GmbH To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: news from access? Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:18:40 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From IoS - Hannes Meder the virus is the second synth i got in deeper contact with (the first one was the alpha juno now used as midi-kb) and i couldn`t imagine a better way to get involved in this chapter of creating music! before i did only some tracker stuff and after that i tried to "compose" something by wav-editing. so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine bless god there's still something good in the world now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? greetings adrian if disease factory is on this list congratulations for your new album, too ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:47:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: controllers Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 02:44:49 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... >* From Da Kid > >Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >be used with Access Virus? >Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >thx. >ziyue. > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 12:12:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:45:12 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >I hear you. But I opted to buy Cubase over Logic because I wasn't going to reward anymore business to Emagic after their damn obnoxious copy protection scemes (can't install Sound Diver on Quadra), ??? >bug ridden Logic Audio >Discovery software (which is so bad, I don't know if I will ever get my work mixed), totally false installation instructions (there is no install program, >despite what is written), missing written documentation, flakey hardware (Audiowerk8, non functioning right out of the box), and their total lack support for the new G3 Macintoshs. -AW 8 works very well here (but itīs no Protools) -Total lack support for the new G3īs? This not true! They are supporting them with Logic 4.0. >I won't buy anything more from Steinberg either, I am boycotting all copy protected software from this point on. They >can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. This is your opinion. But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems. I also was working with Cubse for 3 years on the Atari and was quite satisfied. But when they went for audio-recording (on the Mac) I switched to Logic, because Logic does this much better. And I am still VERY satsfied with Logic. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 12:12:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:00:24 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Anig Browl wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > > >Christoph Kemper wrote... >>The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. > >I like this idea too, but I suggest you do not put it on the LFO rate LED. Already they are working to do LFO rate and input level, and I am usually very interested to watch what is going on with that. Why not flash some other LED, like the Saturation or transpose LEDs? This would give some information without giving up knowing about what the Virus is doing already. Its quite easy to switch the LED mode via sysex data and Logic Environment/Cubase Mixermap. On the other side - why not the saturation LED ..... Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 11:58:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:03:04 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" Good luck :-) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Elhardt@aol.com They >can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. I send my support to the following: > >"Finale" (Music notation, midi control of synths) NO COPY PROTECTION "DeckII" (Multi-track recording) NO COPY PROTECTION "SoundEdit" (Waveform editting) NO COPY PROTECTION ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 13:28:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:25:33 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine >bless god there's still something good in the world Thank you, thank you... even though I would call it "living the spirit of the internet" but it amounts to the same. Nice to get such positive feedback! > >now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:40:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:56:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Is Waldorf crazy? No Windows support Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:21 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 F. wrote: >>One last thing - for now - if you could have a 2nd Virus or a Supernova (in addition to the Virus you already own), which would it be and why? Does the Supernova really have no major strengths over the Virus? On the assumption that one Virus is enough in terms of voices and all that and that the Supernova does sound much different from the Virus, I would probably get the SN's smaller twin: the Nova as a second device... I guess it comes down to "more of the same" or "more variation". I like more variation. I usually use only one or two parts, sometimes more, of the Virus. So I would prefer another instrument which gives me a whole new range of sounds (does the nova?;) over another one of one I already own. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:41:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:59:47 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: digest? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:23 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 Klaus Kessner wrote: >* From Klaus Kessner > >is there a digest version of this discussion list? No, at this time there isn't, sorry. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 16:43:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:39:09 +0200 Organization: access music electronics To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Access vs. Waldorf X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >What exactly is the relationship between Waldorf and Access? Is > Waldorf merely a distributor for the Virus? Is Access is subsidiary of Waldorf? >>TSI is a distributor for Waldorf products. TSI also makes the Virus. >> They also share a Tech person. The whole truth in short form: Waldorf and access are two completely independent firms, though access is getting some technical support by Waldorf. TSI is the distributor for both of them and doesn't make any products. The manager of Waldorf is also the manager of TSI, which explains the strong relationship between Waldorf and TSI and why we got in contact with Waldorf when TSI became the distributor for access products. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 16:50:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:46:26 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Monokrom asked... >Why are you so bitter? I understand his bitterness. Cubase is a heap of crap (and I use it daily). It works most of the time, but it is full of obscure bugs, doesn't behave like a Windows program, and the timing sucks. I've spent 10 or 15 minutes working on something, closed a window and watched parts disappear one by one, beyond recovery. Their documentation is awful. Did I mention the timing? I used to use Cakewalk. I stopped because I installed a demo of a newer version and it threashed my older working version, so I just gave up on it and decided to try big shiny Cubase. BUT I never had the same timing glitches that I often get with Cubase, I've never lost any data, and it follows Windows conventions. Right now I'm deciding where Logic Audio is worth the learning curve and general visual ugliness or to go back to Cakewalk. I WANT to stick with Cubase because it has a lot of good design ideas and it's pretty fast to work in, but I don't want to deal with its illogical quirks. Sorry for the off-topic rant. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 17:05:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Virus + sampler To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. Thanks. - Frater _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 17:55:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:52:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an Well...I don't know if it can get for under $1000,- but I have a Yamaha A3000 and it is one hell of a great sampler! 3 Internal fx processors (finally a synth/sampler with a GOOD phaser!!!, superb filters, 4 mono outs...all as standard, no placing extra boards etc. You can expand it however with a board whoch gives you extra outs and dig. I have no need for it. Actually I only use left and right because of the 3 internal fxs...enough for me now. >effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. We did this some while ago, but there are probably lots of new members here. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 19:30:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 7 May 99 11:27:03 MDT From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Re: controllers] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Da Kid Oh, sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear... I was asking about a midi kb controller... since access virus is rackmount. thx. ziyue "Gerald Thomson" wrote: * From "Gerald Thomson" Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... >* From Da Kid > >Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >be used with Access Virus? >Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >thx. >ziyue. > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 18:00:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:57:44 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" A used S3000xl would be a good choice at around $850-900... Rick >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > > > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:15:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:13:48 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: controllers Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp If you're talking about a keyboard controller, whatever you [like | can afford | find | steal] will work. I'm poor, so I've got a Roland PC-200MkII (About $225US). It's only 49 keys, but has transpose buttons to shift up & down an octave, a pitch-bend/modulation stick, a jack for a sustain pedal, and a slider that you can assign to transmit any MIDI CC Data. There's no aftertouch, but it is velocity sensitive. The keys don't feel nearly as good as a nice weighted set, but they do work well and transmit predictable velocities. It's worked for me for about 2 years now without any trouble. If you're more into performance (I'm just learning to play) then I'd go with something like the A-30 to A-90 from Roland (or an equiv. from another company like Fatar, etc.) Where you can set up MIDI layers & splits as well as have more CC options... -zs >Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. >It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... > >>* From Da Kid >> >>Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >>be used with Access Virus? >>Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >>thx. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:18:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:16:40 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp nothing but positive energy here, folks... So do you go for a Philip Glass type of sound, or are you more into Yanni? And what is your opinion of Unicorns? Frogs sitting on lillipads wearing bonnets? Puppies? >>Why are you so bitter? > >I find non-functional products and false advertising, to be offensive. > >Since I personally buy stuff, and personally communicate (well one way!) with tech support, I am personally offended. > >Seeing as you brought it up again : I liken Steinberg & employees to monkeys who s*ck themselves. > >Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:27:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:25:31 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Keep your eyes open ... I got a 32MB Akai S3000XL (has 8 mono out + 1pr Stereo outs + 1pr Stereo in + SP/DIF input & output + SCSI) for $500. No FX, tho (that's what the Lex MPX-100 is for though!) I can't tell you how nice it is to have SCSI in a sampler though ... Akai makes a program for PCs and Macs that gives you a full-screen interface to all the inner workings of the sampler. Double click on a stored sample, and it will xfer to your computer and open in your favorite wave editor. Open upo programs and twist knobs on the screen while hearing the sound change. Brilliant! Does the Yamaha A3000 do SCSI? -zs >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. > >I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > >A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. > >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? > >Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. > >Thanks. > >- Frater > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ====================================================== ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:47:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:50:44 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I lose voices even in single mode. It's easy with Unison turned up to 12. Cam At 08:56 AM 5/7/99 GMT, you wrote: >I never lose voices; all my synths run in Single mode. ;-) > >Paul >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 20:58:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:01:42 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: [Re: controllers] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 11:27 AM 5/7/99 MDT, you wrote: >* From Da Kid > >Oh, sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear... I was asking about a midi kb controller... since access virus is rackmount. thx. >ziyue Unless you're really concerned about the feel of your keyboard, go cheap. Check out your computer store as well as music stores. I got a servicable keyboard as part of a "computer music" package at a computer store-- it came with a bunch of "learn to play piano" type programs which I threw out. They keyboard feels like the cheap piece of plastic crap that it is, but it works. And at the price I paid for it, I can afford to replace it if it breaks for less money than it would cost to repair a more expensive keyboard. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:46 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Paul Nagle wrote... >>I mostly agree - I can usually notice very quickly when I am losing a voice in one of my pieces. But your explanation of the voice-stealing algorithm is > >I never lose voices; all my synths run in Single mode. ;-) But as you pointed out the other day, this prevents you from doing certain things that are easy in multi mode. Ususally if I find any voice-stealing going on I just sample one of the static sounds and free up a voice or two on the Virus. Running in single mode all the time is boring, you're under-using the machine even if you use complete unison on everything. Plus it means bringing lots more units if you play live, doesn't it? Unless you use backing tracks, but that's not the real thing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: controllers Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:51 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Da Kid asked... >Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to be used with Access Virus? You can use anything that puts out MIDI. You could get a pecialist controller like a Fatar that allows you to map controllers to sliders etc., but that's kind of pointless given all the knobs the Virus has and its assignable controller options. I use an old Yamaha CS1x. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:52 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Raymund Beyer wrote... >This is your opinion. But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems. Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p Most demos suck because they won't let you save or give you proper documentation. When something has a learning curve like Logic Audio, I want to be able to use it for a few weeks instead of a few hours at a time. Logic (and many other sequencers are also way overpriced. For example, I don't use digital audio tracks very much at the moment - so why should I pay for it? Why can't I buy it as a separate module when I only want good MIDI timing and editing? Frankly I think most sequencers on the market suck - they all copy each others designs, they are all quirky, they all have poorly written documentation (I've written many manuals and also technical books for the general public, so I ought to know), and most of them have features that I am not very interested in using or paying for. Now for a demonstration of how it can be done, go to http:\\midiworld.com\aureality and check out Building Blocks. This is a kind of modular MIDI processor (Sorry, PC only, but they have screenshots there so go look anyway). It's fast, has relatively few bugs (current version is 1.1), great documentation including a development path for the next 2 or 3 versions, and one of the best interfaces I have seen. It's what the Logic environment ought to be and a lot more besides - if it had a patch librarian I would be in heaven. How much does this incredible software cost? $30. I know I am ranting a lot about this, but I have worked in the software industry for several years and the big sequencer programs do not impress me all that much. Their only advantage is that people are used to them and you can usually ask another user a question and get an answer. Big deal - that's no substitute for proper design, testing, documentation, and tech support. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:27:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:55 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Raymund Beyer wrote... >Its quite easy to switch the LED mode via sysex data and Logic Environment/Cubase Mixermap. On the other side - why not the saturation LED ..... Assuming you want to run everything from the computer all the time. Since the LFO LED performs two functions already I think it's pointless to load it further. Besides, how can I be sure that voice consumption flashing isn't the LFO when I'm using a square wave or something? I'd have to keep my eyes glued on it all the time to watch the consistency of the flash speed. Saturation makes more sense, plus it has a similar meaning since you could say the Virus CPU is saturated with instructions :-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:21:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 22:32:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >bug ridden Logic Audio Discovery software (which is so bad, I don't know if I will ever get my work mixed) You shouldn't judge Logic by that. My brother once bought Notator Alpha (Notator was the old program (for Atari ST) which is now called Logic). We couldn't even run it for more than two minutes, and the price was awfully high. But, as I said, don't judge Logic by that. Logic is worth every single penny I spent in it. There were some problems with a version for a couple of weeks, but excepting this nothing ever happened that would drive me to say anything different. And DON'T JUDGE LOGIC BY IT'S CRACKS. I know some guys who tried cracked versions - they don't run stable, and I think it's impossible to understand Logic without reading parts of its manual. But believe me: it's definately worth i! By the way: I hate software protection, too. I nearly lost two installations, just because I had to format my harddisk twice. Would like a dongle better. Sorry for the off-topic, Martin mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 22:35:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 22:33:09 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >>so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine >>bless god there's still something good in the world > >Thank you, thank you... even though I would call it "living the spirit of the internet" but it amounts to the same. Nice to get such positive feedback! > >> >>now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? > >Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). > >think different! > >Canine > > Hi ! Christoph told me at THE Meeting in Amsterdam about "something" new. But not what and not when.So, there is nothing offical like Canine(hello to you) said. we will see..... Maybe your deepest wishes come true... Stay Fresh J. W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:03:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:54:42 -0700 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: I went shopping for a friend... Cc: hwseq-list@teklab.com, a3k-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan And this is what I bought him: Access Virus Synthesizer Yamaha A3000 Sampler Yamaha RM1X Sequencer The beginnings of his new home studio... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:12:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:10:28 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Zack Steinkamp > >Does the Yamaha A3000 do SCSI? Standard. I've got a 2.1GB SCSI HD in the beast and just attached a SCSI CDROM player this week and works great! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:15:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:14:51 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >From all I hear (on the Akai List) I would recommend not to get an Akai. They used to be industry/studio standard for one reason or another but these days, apparently every other sampler is more user friendly, offers more features and everyone can load the Akai libraries anyways. The A3000 seems the sounddesigner's tool of choice, I don't know about its features but I heard it and it sounds great and i like the fx. Personally I use an old Ensoniq ASR-10 which I love (not for its maximum RAM of 16MB or its 8-part multitimbrality). It has a wonderful sound, and great effects that you can use to resample (oh, I know every sampler can do that nowadays...) and all that stuff... I like it. It sounds nice. The UI is ok (for early nineties). If you buy one, make sure the SCSI is installed since these boards are impossible to get these days... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:47:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:48:12 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Anig wrote: >Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p I took your advice and I broke into Guitar Center, where I have borrowed a Roland XP-80. It has some bugs in the sequencer module, so I have no intention of paying for it until I know they're going to fix it. By then, I might not even buy it, because there could be something better for me to buy. Come on! You can get Cubase or Logic for $300-500 in various configurations. If you can't spend the money, you can't play in the sandbox. >Logic (and many other sequencers are also way overpriced. For example, I don't >use digital audio tracks very much at the moment - so why should I pay for it? >Why can't I buy it as a separate module when I only want good MIDI timing and editing? Then buy Logic Audio Bronze or Silver with more limited Audio handling. Or Cubasis. Then when you decide you need the Audio, you can UPGRADE for a reasonable price. And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:50:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Virus + sampler Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:51:46 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Defending the Akai, As an S3000xl user, I heartily recommend them. Great sample library support, affordable price point, easy user interface, and decent customer support. Sure, they misstepped with the S5000 with the first release, but I've been working with a friend's machine for a few weeks, and have found it to be amazing. Everything I liked about earlier Akais, and fixed all the frustrating parts. Akais have a wonderful transparent sound, and the filters on the 5000 are very nice sounding. It's just a different animal from the A3000 - which is a fine machine. I'm less of a fan of the E4xt: Sure it's powerful, but look at the screen on the S5000 - you'll never want to squint again. Just my two cents. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 7 23:49:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:53:10 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 01:54 PM 5/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >And this is what I bought him: > > Access Virus Synthesizer > Yamaha A3000 Sampler > Yamaha RM1X Sequencer > >The beginnings of his new home studio... Can I be your friend? Cam :) Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:00:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:08:14 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i dont use sampler , but everyone i know that does loves the older roland stuff or the new yamaha weld Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. > >I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > >A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. > >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? > >Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. > >Thanks. > >- Frater > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:14:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:08:55 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >>Does the Yamaha A3000 do SCSI? > >Standard. >I've got a 2.1GB SCSI HD in the beast and just attached a SCSI CDROM player this week and works great! cool ... are there any computer apps to control the A3000 via SCSI? -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:32:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:25:36 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 06:32 PM 5/7/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From WELD >any real friend i would of bought notron for!!!! : ) >sorry jay couldnt resist >weld Well, if I could find a local dealer here in Los Angeles that wasn't a complete and utter wanker (like the Guitar Center guys are)... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:23:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:32:01 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD any real friend i would of bought notron for!!!! : ) sorry jay couldnt resist weld Cam wrote: >* From Cam > >At 01:54 PM 5/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >>* From Jay Vaughan >> >>And this is what I bought him: >> >>Access Virus Synthesizer >>Yamaha A3000 Sampler >>Yamaha RM1X Sequencer >> >>The beginnings of his new home studio... > >Can I be your friend? > >Cam :) >Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:24:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:33:06 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD beware of the new akai jimbo they are very buggy, im on the akai mailing list for mpc support and see alot of complaints weld Jim B-Reay - WARE wrote: >* From Jim B-Reay - WARE > >Defending the Akai, > >As an S3000xl user, I heartily recommend them. Great sample library support, affordable price point, easy user interface, and decent customer support. Sure, they misstepped with the S5000 with the first release, but I've been working with a friend's machine for a few weeks, and have found it to be amazing. Everything I liked about earlier Akais, and fixed all the frustrating parts. Akais have a wonderful transparent sound, and the filters on the 5000 are very nice sounding. > >It's just a different animal from the A3000 - which is a fine machine. I'm less of a fan of the E4xt: Sure it's powerful, but look at the screen on the S5000 - you'll never want to squint again. > >Just my two cents. > >Jim > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 00:28:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:34:54 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD a super virus with a built in sampler, more knobs, analog seq would be the bomb weld Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > >K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: >> >>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >>>so, at first, great thanx and honour to access ( ;} !!! same to canine >>>bless god there's still something good in the world >> >>Thank you, thank you... even though I would call it "living the spirit of the internet" but it amounts to the same. Nice to get such positive feedback! >> >>> >>>now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? >> >>Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >> > >Hi ! > >Christoph told me at THE Meeting in Amsterdam about "something" new. But not what and not when.So, there is nothing offical like Canine(hello to you) >said. > >we will see..... > >Maybe your deepest wishes come true... > >Stay Fresh > >J. W. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 12:13:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 01:06:34 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:48 PM +0200 on 07.05.1999 Jim B-Reay - WARE wrote: >And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. right on! I really like to strongly support this statement! On the other hand: I buy everything I use. But I pirate everything I want to try before I buy. It's just the way it works. Demos suck. Not being able to save things keeps you from coming back to a session later with fresh ears (or a fresh mind) and try to make the best of it then, something wich I find very essential with images and music (and most other creative things for that matter). Demos just don't do the job. But: if you have any sort of intention to publish your music (intellectual property) and get money for it, you should certainly own the sequencer (intellectual property) you are using to make that music... if not, you should not be able to sign any sort of contract with any sort of record company. right? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 05:40:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:37:13 EDT Subject: Re: Cubase To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Raymund Beyer) wrote: >>-Total lack support for the new G3īs? This not true! They are supporting them with Logic 4.0.<< Does this mean you can install/run it without a floppy dirve and ADB port (iMac doesn't have ADB if believe). Having to pay an additional $150 to $200 just to install their software is not acceptable. Last I heard, Emagic didn't give a damn. >>But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems.<< A) Most of the computer industry as a whole got rid of copy protection 15 or more years ago because of all the problems it causes. Haven't you noticed? B) I have purchased many thousands of dollars of software, non copy protected. C) I have written software that was marketed and wasn't copy protected. D) Most software in every other field except music is not copy protected. What is the problem with music related software companies? E) ***** I'm sure these music software companies wouldn't like every piece of software they own/use to be copy protected. How does a chain of dongles 20 feet long sound? It's idiotic. F) Dongles mean you have to purchase additional copies of their software if you want to run one copy at home,and another in the studio, or the sequencer on one computer the audio recording on another. At least some other types allow two installs. G) People who pirate software are not the ones who are boing to buy it anyway. No big monetary loss as they want you to believe. H) Hackers just crack the thing anyway. What kind of protection is that? I) If they would use printed manuals as opposed to Adobe Acrobat files, that would discourage some pirating. J) They are lossing money from people who don't want to buy copy protected software. Gigasampler just lost my business for this very reason. >>But when they went for audio-recording (on the Mac) I switched to Logic, because Logic does this much better. And I am still VERY satsfied with Logic.<< Basic functions like drawing envelops to automate mixing don't work properly in Audio Discovery (faders ignore the envolope or just make sporatic jumps and it takes several retries to get it to register), and they go through all the trouble for that pseudo-3D pitch vs time display and it doesn't even work correctly. None of this encourages upgrading to Gold or Platinum from a potential customer. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 08:13:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 8 May 99 00:12:14 MDT From: Da Kid To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Generator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Da Kid since we are talking about softwares and stuff, has anybody used a software called Generator? I heard alot of good stuff about it.. also what about Gigasampler? Thx. Ziyue ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 09:35:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 07:30:01 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 7 May 1999 13:21:46 -0700, "Anig Browl" wrote: >Running in single mode all the time is boring, you're under-using the machine even if you use complete unison on everything. Plus it means Define "under-using". I am very happy with the contribution the Virus makes and don't feel I have to use more parts just for the sake of it. I am not short of instruments and orchestrating is easier if you know each time you play something that is how it will sound throughout the composition process. This works for me. >bringing lots more units if you play live, doesn't it? Unless you use backing tracks, but that's not the real thing. I use a Nord Modular as my live "backing". And three other musicians. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 09:46:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 03:45:02 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore cubase has fopund away around the floppy authorizations... there is a passcode they give you.. it's a new version made especially for the new G3... believe me those companies give a damn! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 10:49:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:48:13 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. All for $1000? I bought one of my ASRs for under a grand - they're very quick to program, sound warmer than Akai, and the FX are good, but only 8 channels. Some people say the MIDI timing is not good... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 18:29:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:27:06 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Is it just me, or has this thread been completely off-topic for about the last dozen messages? - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 14:08:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:34:58 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:37 AM +0200 on 08.05.1999 Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >J) They are lossing money from people who don't want to buy copy protected software. Gigasampler just lost my business for this very reason. There was an ad in the music mags lately where it sadi that you could take Gigasampler home with you and test it (a real version, everything included) for about a week. I think this is a great way to show that "yes, we know cp sucks, but at least we give a damn". I don't know what I like better, key disks or dongles. An ADB dongle means you can't use Logic on a powerbook that has no ADB and if you lose or forget your dongle for a gig you are DOOMED... but software keys that evaporate when you speeddisk your HD are even worse. I haven't tried to defragment, but MAX tells you to absolutely uninstall the Key before attempting to use SpeedDisk or any defragmentation tool. I think this discussion doesn't really belong on this list, and frankly I don't believe it can be concluded once and for all. But I'd like to make a collection of pro and against statements for both, keydisk and dongle based copy protection to put it on the web. So please send me your ideas. Make them clear and concise please. I will edit them as little as possible and put it on the web for all to see... oK? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 19:31:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:26:37 EDT Subject: MIDI Channels To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Hi there. Is there any way to turn off the MIDI Receive of a certain channel in the Virus. I am sending drum data on channel 10 to a drum machine, and the rest to the Virus. I have turned the part-enable OFF for part 10 in the multi-program of the Virus (so no sounds will be heard), but it still shows a MIDI Note being received on part 10. Just currious. Thanks. p.s. - I only have 1 MIDI port out of the computer (I'm splitting to two outs from that 1 port), so I can't just select Port "A" to the Virus, and Port "B" to the drum machine, like I can do on my MPC3000 (I like to use my Cubase VST to compose with, so that's why I'm not just using the MPC). I hope all this makes sense. Thanks again. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 19:45:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 05:40:58 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From Elhardt@aol.com >I am boycotting all copy protected software from this point on. They can take their authorization disks, secret access codes, hardware keys and dongles and shove them up their a**. I send my support to the following: Yep... I spent two and a half hours, trying to get Logic's dongle to work. Turned out the 'dongle' was just a 9 pin - 9 pin connecting cable, the real dongle was hidden in cardboard packing at the bottom of the box. But I think usability and reliability are most important for me. On a mission, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 19:59:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 05:55:02 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >Right now I'm deciding where Logic Audio is worth the learning curve and general visual ugliness or to go back to Cakewalk. Climbing the learning curve from Cubase to Logic, is easy. I experienced it as downhill, things were so much easier to do... Particularly MIDI editing in the matrix (piano roll) window. Install a demo version of Logic, find how much fun making music without a save feature can be. :-) Have fun, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 20:51:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 06:46:44 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >nothing but positive energy here, folks... >And what is your opinion of Unicorns? Frogs sitting on lillipads wearing bonnets? Puppies? I think octopii and the colour purple make a nice combination. Really can't say why. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 21:06:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 07:02:10 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From Jim B-Reay - WARE >And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. Get your music out, get paid yourself, and pay your dues. There'll be money in your pocket at the end of the day. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:01:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:26:49 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: OT: Logic copy protection(was Cubase) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer wrote: >(Raymund Beyer) wrote: >>>-Total lack support for the new G3īs? This not true! They are supporting them with Logic 4.0.<< > >Does this mean you can install/run it without a floppy dirve and ADB port (iMac doesn't have ADB if believe). Having to pay an additional $150 to $200 >just to install their software is not acceptable. Last I heard, Emagic didn't give a damn. As far as I heard on the Logic users list from Markus Fritze, all Logic versions will be installed from CD without the Floppy verification. So it should be no Problem to install it on new Macs (B&W or iMac). I donīt know what the uprade fee is in your country in Germany its about $150 for Platinum. I guess Silver might be the half. >>>But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems.<< > >A) Most of the computer industry as a whole got rid of copy protection 15 or more years ago because of all the problems it causes. Haven't you noticed? I did. But I never had problems with dongles. Also its possible to sell or buy copy protected software second hand (if its allowed in your country). >B) I have purchased many thousands of dollars of software, non copy protected. Sorry, but you know as good as I do, that those not copy-protected programs are copied by a lots of people..... This may damage a soware company. >C) I have written software that was marketed and wasn't copy protected. > >D) Most software in every other field except music is not copy protected. What is the problem with music related software companies? An interesting question I also allready thought about. Donīt have an answer jet. BTW: there is a lots of Shareware out there and its also copy proteced. I it was not, I wouldnīt have paid for it maybe.... >E) ***** I'm sure these music software companies wouldn't like every piece of >software they own/use to be copy protected. How does a chain of dongles 20 feet long sound? It's idiotic. No. I have 5 dongles hanging on my Mac in the studio and I donīt have any problem with that. >F) Dongles mean you have to purchase additional copies of their software if you want to run one copy at home,and another in the studio, or the sequencer on one computer the audio recording on another. At least some other types allow two installs. Or I take the dongle with me. I do this nearly 3 times a week, and lots of people I know do it too. Its only a problem of organizing yourself. >G) People who pirate software are not the ones who are boing to buy it anyway. No big monetary loss as they want you to believe. IMO this is wrong too. I know a lots of people that tried out software using a crack (I donīt want to exclude myself) and bought it later. >H) Hackers just crack the thing anyway. What kind of protection is that? But hackers donīt sell the software in a store and also not everyone knows where to get the stuff. Also cracks are sometimes not working as good as originales and mostly they are not upgradable. >I) If they would use printed manuals as opposed to Adobe Acrobat files, that would discourage some pirating. Yes. Emagic does this for this reason. >J) They are lossing money from people who don't want to buy copy protected software. Gigasampler just lost my business for this very reason. Iīm sorry, I still canīt get you. >>>But when they went for audio-recording (on the Mac) I switched to Logic, because Logic does this much better. And I am still VERY satsfied with Logic.<< > >Basic functions like drawing envelops to automate mixing don't work properly in Audio Discovery (faders ignore the envolope or just make sporatic jumps and it takes several retries to get it to register), and they go through all the trouble for that pseudo-3D pitch vs time display and it doesn't even work >correctly. None of this encourages upgrading to Gold or Platinum from a potential customer. Canīt say much about Silver (was Discovery). Have you upgraded frequently? I admit you use the PC version. AFAIK there has benn a lots of problems there in the past. Emagic told they rewrote the program complete for 4.0. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:01:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:45:30 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Anig Browl wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > >Raymund Beyer wrote... >>This is your opinion. But still copy protection is the only way to make sure they get payed for thier work. You sure want to get payed for your music and donīt give it away for free. I personally like dongles much more than disk protection, because dongles never make problems. > >Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p So what would you think if I took a part of one of your songs, loop it and donīt give you any copright? Or wasnīt it you the said that if somebody uses one of your sounds from Canines page on a record, he has to give you a credit on the cover? How would you feel if this happened? I think we all should have more respect to programmers that do software. They have to do their living from that as we have to do it from our music. >Most demos suck because they won't let you save or give you proper documentation. When something has a learning curve like Logic Audio, I want to be able to use it for a few weeks instead of a few hours at a time. Okay, thats wright. >Frankly I think most sequencers on the market suck - they all copy each others designs, they are all quirky, they all have poorly written documentation (I've written many manuals and also technical books for the general public, so I ought to know), and most of them have features that I am not very interested in using or paying for. > >Now for a demonstration of how it can be done, go to http:\\midiworld.com\aureality and check out Building Blocks. This is a kind of modular MIDI processor (Sorry, PC only, but they have screenshots there so go look anyway). It's fast, has relatively few bugs (current version is 1.1), great documentation including a development path for the next 2 or 3 versions, and one of the best interfaces I have seen. It's what the Logic environment ought to be and a lot more besides - if it had a patch librarian I would be in heaven. How much does this incredible software cost? $30. > >I know I am ranting a lot about this, but I have worked in the software industry for several years and the big sequencer programs do not impress me all that much. Their only advantage is that people are used to them and you can usually ask another user a question and get an answer. Big deal - that's no substitute for proper design, testing, documentation, and tech support. You might lots more than me about this. Why donīt you give us the new HyperCubaseLogic for $100? (Just a joke) I really donīt think anybody will be able to do so. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:01:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:53:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Anig Browl wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > >Saturation makes more sense, plus it has a similar meaning since you could say the Virus CPU is saturated with instructions :-) Wright! ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 8 22:03:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 07:58:30 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >Is it just me, or has this thread been completely off-topic for about the last dozen messages? No, it's just you... :-) Your subscription has been auto-transferred to the - 'which sequencer' - copy protection - 'I tried to toast my bread but the flame wars are too unpredictable' lists. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 01:53:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:53:33 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? Might be interesting to know what other people on this list are using... My under-the-bed (really!) studio: SCSI PC + Gina + Midiman Portman 2x4 + Cubase + Cool Edit Pro Access Virus - right in the middle 2 x Ensoniq ASR keyboards (10 MB + ZIPs) Alesis QS8 as master keyboard Yamaha VL-7, SY77, DX7II 2 little mixers (Mackie + Behringer) ElectroVoice RE20 mike (yes!) Old portable Aiwa DAT machine which switches itself off automatically (grrrr) JBL Control 1 monitors Though some of this gear is not considered "professional", the spec is actually great deal better than anything used for Sargeant Pepper's or even Dark Side of the Moon... food for thought, isn't it? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 01:48:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sun, 9 May 99 00:47:18 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" , "CHRISTOF KEMPER" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz CHRISTOF KEMPER wrote : >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? hi christof, this seems to be very useful.... but that brought me to another idea wich could be very handy and speedup the possibillity of even more different sounds compared to other v-a-synths: what if u could set a stepless quality of sound for each patch for the generating of the waves by degrading the samplerate and the bitrate independenty ? i mean,like there are some plugins (sonic decimator,or the mda-degrader..)? this could sound great (i tried it with just a saw,a pulse and sinus). if this could help to save cpu,maybe this parameter could allow even more voices than 12 (rack)? only a thought of me....:=) because this sometimes sounds VERY good (oizo is nr. 1 in media control charts ,germany!!) and i do this via plugin all the time.... regards,greetings and respect from good old stuttgart, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 10:45:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: juno106 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus hey.. i have heard that the virus can copy the 106... not perfect.. nto near perfect.. but it can copy it... i was just wondering if anyone has come up with a patch that is similar to the 106.... fo hell does anyone know what the 106 is???? ........ oh and... if u have a 106 for sale i would LOVE to take it off your hands =) -cyngus _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 18:08:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 09:04:29 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Kanou Ame wrote: >[...] HOWEVER it realy steps on my nerves to engage my whole setup that means my computer, my keyboard and that virus to HEAR something from the "red baron". [...] Why do you need to engage your computer in order to hear your Virus? I have all my music equipment on a single power switch, so the same switch that turns on my Virus will also turn on the controller keyboard. No computer needed. Within two seconds I'm playing. No sweat. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 16:05:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:02:17 +0200 (MEST) From: Kanou Ame To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: one button? X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.141] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kanou Ame hello access-list, hello access, i think you should - and i would be very very happy if you do it - insert the following option into a new os, perhaps v2.6 (?): i do realy love my virus. it s my lovely BABY! and i m programming each single sound by hand like canine does. it s amazing what you can do with that little machine, YES it is. so there s a little problem: sometimes in the morning or in the night i get this feeling to make a SOUND with my virus. so i do. HOWEVER it realy steps on my nerves to engage my whole setup that means my computer, my keyboard and that virus to HEAR something from the "red baron". so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you give us the option to press one single button on the virus (like store for example) to get a sound played. it should be possible to say how many voices and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), too. i do not mean anything like a step-sequencer! i am realy happy with my machine, its functionality and the os! so dont think i wanna critisize you! but i think it s better when i can turn the virus on and make a sound, you know??? what do you think? And please do NOT tell me i should buy that virus kb! hear ya, read ya, Kanou --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 17:36:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:33:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I like it! By the LED you can see how important it is to prevent the voice stealing. It sounds like a good 'debugging' tool for the music. You don't always want to 'debug' your music, so it's good te be able to turn it off again and use the leds for someting else. Dimitri. >This is a very good idea! >The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. If the LED flashes dark, a stealing occured, but it is inaudible; nevertheless it indicates that no more polyphony should be added. >If the LED flashes bright, a 'hard' voice stealing happened, even if it might not be audible in a busy arrangement, but it has to be checked. In general, the behavior of the LED directly reflects the voice stealing situation, in time and amplitude. >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut. > >Do you like it? > >Christoph Kemper >access music ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 17:40:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:37:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:18 AM +0200 on 07.05.1999 IoS - Hannes Meder wrote: >>now i would like to know if there's anything planned to come out after the virus? >Nothing is official, but if you look at other manufacaturers you will get the notion that there will be something like a successor to the Virus -- eventually. right now it's the Virus, the Virus and nothin but the Virus, but it will soon be available in two flavors: desktop (out now) and keyboard (real soon now). Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 18:36:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 18:32:40 +0200 (DFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Generator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz On 8 May 1999, Da Kid wrote: >since we are talking about softwares and stuff, has anybody used a software called Generator? I heard alot of good stuff about it.. At least i checked out the Demo version (runs 30min, comes with a limited amount of modules). I found a few sounds that i've never heared from the Virus. It has a tube amp distortion, which sounds just amazing (you play some cord and it sounds like a nicely distorted electric guitar - BTW, that would be great if the Virus could do this... :o). It also seems to cooperate quite solidly with Cubase (yes, Cubase on PC is crap, i've used it for many years, and today i use it mostly because i can't import *.ALL files into other software.) All in all, i dont think that i will ever buy the software - dont have to have everything... just my DM 0.3... Hagen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 19:19:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:15:03 EDT Subject: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Davidzzz@aol.com Hi, I am visiting New York City this week and Hoped to find some record stores that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. Any ideas?? thanks, David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 10:09:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:46:57 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! Access is listening! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 20:05:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:10:51 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD for used buys of anykind go to the amsterdam area of NY (behind tower records) \many used vinyl and cd shops weld Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: >* From Davidzzz@aol.com > >Hi, > >I am visiting New York City this week and Hoped to find some record stores that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. > >Any ideas?? > >thanks, > >David >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 21:06:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 12:09:41 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. At 04:02 PM 5/9/99 +0200, you wrote: >so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you give us the option to press one single button on the virus (like store for example) to get a sound played. it should be possible to say how many voices and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), too. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 9 22:05:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 21:28:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >- 'I tried to toast my bread but the flame wars are too unpredictable' ;-)) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 01:49:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#europa.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 16:48:01 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick Yes! This would be awesome, indeed. Pleasepleaseplease? -Marc At 12:09 PM 5/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Cam > >I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. > >At 04:02 PM 5/9/99 +0200, you wrote: >>so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you give us the option to press one single button on the virus (like store for example) to get a sound played. it should be possible to say how many voices and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), too. > >Cam >Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 02:47:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:43:48 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: how to make a new sound... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen If i get this right, for me to make a new sound on my virus, i get to select the begin patch (A-127 START), edit it till it sounds good and save it in another slot ? Or is there another way, that you can begin from scratch ? Just a question, as i now have my new working-desk setup in my room, i can finally begin to program sounds. Thanks, John Machielsen -- http://culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Please Help??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Metz If you listen to the Virus demo, the first thing that you hear is a choppy keyboard sound which is commonly found in techno music. Does anybody know how to make this effect? I don't think it is a delay......I would love to know how to make this sound!!!! Please help..... Thanks in advance... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 07:48:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:52:05 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: how to make a new sound... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam The START patch is about as close to "from scratch" as you get: it's a bare sawtooth wave, with no embellishments of any kind. Your only other option is to select another pre-made patch and mess with it until you get what you like. Cam At 02:43 AM 5/10/99 +0200, you wrote: >* From John Machielsen > >If i get this right, for me to make a new sound on my virus, i get to select the begin patch (A-127 START), edit it till it sounds good >and save it in another slot ? > >Or is there another way, that you can begin from scratch ? > >Just a question, as i now have my new working-desk setup in my room, i can finally begin to program sounds. > >Thanks, > >John Machielsen > Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Paul Nagle wrote... >I use a Nord Modular as my live "backing". And three other musicians. Ah...for some reason I was under the impression that you did everything solo and MIDI-ed to the gills...sorry for the mis-targetted argument. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Virus + sampler Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Howard Scarr wrote... >All for $1000? I bought one of my ASRs for under a grand - they're very quick to program, sound warmer than Akai, and the FX are good, but only 8 channels. Some people say the MIDI timing is not good... I have an ASR-X and the timing seems OK, although I don't use the sequencer that much so perhaps I've been lucky. I agree it sounds warmer than Akai and it's much easier to use than something the s2000 (spit). OTOH I played with a MPC for a while and liked it OK. I just hate Akai's operating system. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Thomas Whitmore wrote... >Get your music out, get paid yourself, and pay your dues. There'll be money in your pocket at the end of the day. I think that's very fair approach. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:10 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Raymund beyer wrote... >>Oh really. I have a cracked version of Logic (thanks Radium) and I have no intention of paying for it until I am certain that I want to produce music with it as my main tool. So much for the dongle :-p > >So what would you think if I took a part of one of your songs, loop it and donīt give you any copright? Or wasnīt it you the said that if somebody uses one of your sounds from Canines page on a record, he has to give you a credit on the cover? How would you feel if this happened? I'd be offended if you released such a track without crediting me, and I'd want to be paid something your track used a sample or sound of mine very heavily. OTOH if you used it on a demo or something I wouldn't mind very much. Please notice that I said I didn't want to pay the money until I was sure I wanted to produce music with it. I would not keep using the cracked version if I began selling tracks I made with it, then I would certainly pay. >I think we all should have more respect to programmers that do software. They have to do their living from that as we have to do it from our music. Sure - I have been ripped off by a book publisher before, it sucks. >You might lots more than me about this. Why donīt you give us the new HyperCubaseLogic for $100? (Just a joke) I really donīt think anybody will be able to do so. I won't complain too much about the price of a product that works really well and has good tech suport etc. etc. - the Virus is not a cheap synth but I feel I get great value for the money I paid. Many people feel the same way about ReBirth. But I am unhappy about products that create new problems for me to solve and slow down the music-writing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:30:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Cubase Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:13 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Jim B-Reay wrote... >I took your advice and I broke into Guitar Center, where I have borrowed a Roland XP-80. It has some bugs in the sequencer module, so I have no intention of paying for it until I know they're going to fix it. But you have stopped them from selling the XP-80 to anyone else. If I install a cracked copy of Logic to test out for a while nobody is actually losing money by that. If I like it and use it and make a record to release, then they get a sale. If I don't, then I throw it away to free disk space and it wasn't the product for me. Also one can do a pretty good test of a synth in the store which is not possible with software in most cases. >Come on! You can get Cubase or Logic for $300-500 in various configurations. If you can't spend the money, you can't play in the sandbox. If 'play' means testing it out and learning to use it (without benefit of manuals or tech support), then I believe I can. If you mean putting out music for release using those tools, I would agree with you. >Then buy Logic Audio Bronze or Silver with more limited Audio handling. And less MIDI capability as well from what I remember in their sales brochures. Also I can only get a demo of Logic platinum, not the lower versions so I can't test them by that route. >And there is a LOT of great music being made out there with this software: Bugs have workarounds. Tech support works. I just can't get behind this pirate mentality. Tech support does not always work, as a few users here have pointed out. Bugs should be fixed, not worked around, and a company that does not fix obvious or well-known bugs doesn't care very much about its customers. I think it is unethical to sell a flawed product, but many companies do so anyway. I don't think it's unethical to use it for non-commercial purposes, in the case of software, because there is no extra investment of resources in the cracked copy I test. And I am more likely to buy it if I can test it at length first. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 08:45:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Tomás Kejzlar To: Subject: Re: juno106 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:45:45 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?ISO-8859-1?B?VG9t4XMgS2Vqemxhcg==?= I owned Juno-106 and I tested it with Virus head to head. Pure oscilators sound very similar. Maybe there are some diferencies in Unison mode with strong resonance but i doesn't matter so much. My opinion was that Juno-106 was too poor and too overpriced in contrast with Virus. So my decision was to sold Juno-106 and to buy Virus. Tomás Kejzlar Electra Glide Project: http://www.space.cz/home/Electra_Glide The-R-Mix: http://thermix.webjump.com Both sites in czech language only!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyngus Cyngus To: Sent: 9. kvėtna 1999 10:51 Subject: juno106 >* From Cyngus Cyngus > >hey.. >i have heard that the virus can copy the 106... not perfect.. nto near perfect.. but it can copy it... i was just wondering if anyone has come up with a patch that is similar to the 106.... fo hell does anyone know what the 106 is???? ........ > >oh and... if u have a 106 for sale i would LOVE to take it off your hands =) > >-cyngus > > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 09:24:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" , Subject: Re: Recording Controller Data in CuBase (VST)/sync prob Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:19:24 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >This is one of many variations of messages I get when I ask people to stop complaining about Cubase and tell me something specific. I sorted out my direct problem, by moving to Logic Audio. I am now very happy making music. I did contact Steinberg twice thru the NZ distributor, and never received any reply. The distributor was unable to explain why this was, other than that they might be busy. My assumption was that Steinberg knew about most of the problems, and were busy trying to ignore the clamour of complaints. Customer service? Hell no! Due to this snub, which I take as a personal insult because that is what it was, I do not care to assist Steinberg directly or indirectly thru you. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 11:08:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:21:03 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:45 AM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Tomás Kejzlar wrote: >I owned Juno-106 and I tested it with Virus head to head. Pure oscilators sound very similar. >Maybe there are some diferencies in Unison mode with strong resonance but i doesn't matter so much. >My opinion was that Juno-106 was too poor and too overpriced in contrast with Virus. >So my decision was to sold Juno-106 and to buy Virus. in the latest issue of Future Music they were hinting at an upcoming "retro synth" feature about hte 106. So at least for the UK, maybe it's time to buy now (if you need one) or wait before you sell (if you have one)... I think usually prices go up a bit after a large mag like that writes about vintage gear... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 10:27:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Re: controllers] Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:25:09 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Oh allright... Well... Don't know if I can recommend anything really. I have a cheap Evolution Mk-149 myself. But if you want something with aftertouch, it's gonna cost you bigtime! >Oh, sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear... I was asking about a midi kb controller... since access virus is rackmount. thx. >ziyue > >"Gerald Thomson" wrote: * From "Gerald Thomson" > >Maybe you ought to take a look at the Doepfer Drehbank. It's basically just rows upon rows of knobs. >It doesn't come cheap though. About Ģ350, or so... > > > > > >>* From Da Kid >> >>Hi, I am wondering if anybody would recommand any one specific controller to >>be used with Access Virus? >>Also, I was wondering if anybody have used the new Access Virus Kb? any thoughts? >>thx. >>ziyue. >> >>____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list >is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 10:44:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:41:21 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Could you make a small comment on how well the Virus will work when controlled from the RM1x? Does it record knob movements? Can it in any way compare to real sequncers, be they hard or soft? Thanks! >And this is what I bought him: > > Access Virus Synthesizer > Yamaha A3000 Sampler > Yamaha RM1X Sequencer > >The beginnings of his new home studio... > >:) > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 15:52:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:49:57 +0200 From: Stefan Nee X-Accept-Language: en To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Major hangup - Need help Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stefan Nee Dear Virusers & Access, Last night my virus completely freaked out. In the middle of a song it all of a sudden started doing the most horrifying and annoying sound (kinda like Jim Carrey in Dumb, Dumber). Since my little red friend didn't respond to anything, I restarted with the on/off button and it worked again.... for about 20 seconds, cause when I restarted the song it happened again. This time though, it didn't start again, even when switching the power on and off. I unplugged all cords but nothing happened. The display was lit, but there was no text and it didn't transmit any midi. I even tried to update the OS to 2.51 (I have 1.53 installed). It really appears to be completely wacked. Does anyone have any idea what has happened and what can be done to solve it. My setup: MAC G3 Unitor 8 Logic Audio Platinum 3.7.1 Thanks in advance /Stefan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:03:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Please Help??? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:01:15 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From John Metz If you listen to the Virus demo, the first thing that you hear is a choppy keyboard sound which is commonly found in techno music. Does anybody know how to make this effect? I don't think it is a delay...... I would love to know how to make this sound!!!! Please help..... Thanks in advance... There's no way to check how that sound in the Virus demo was made (it's not sent to MIDI out), but my guess is: Just take (or make) a sound with an organ-type envelope and record it! No special trick there... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:03:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Credit for sounds? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:02:08 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I'd be offended if you released such a track without crediting me, and I'd want to be paid something your track used a sample or sound of mine very heavily. OTOH if you used it on a demo or something I wouldn't mind very much. The only thing that would offend me is if somebody (other than myself) were to *sell* my sounds. If I didn't want my sounds to be free, then I wouldn't have posted them. Just my opinion... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:24:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:21:13 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM I've recently gotten a Microwave XT and am totally nuts about the parameter randomizer. Might the Virus get such an option? DTM. "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >>Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? > >Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! > >Access is listening! > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 16:47:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Esabuc@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:44:53 EDT Subject: Re: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Esabuc@aol.com In a message dated 5/9/99 1:09:44 PM, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: <that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. >>> Go to OTHER MUSIC...it's right across the street from Tower, on Broadway and 4th St. Small store but a great selecion and the staff really knows their stuff. If your into the Dn'B thang check out BREAKBEAT SCIENCE on 9th St. Hardly any CDs but a good vinyl selection. Kim's on St. Marks Street I've found to have the best used electronic section discs range from 5-9. Later Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 17:06:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:10:09 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Major hangup - Need help Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam >switching the power on and off. I unplugged all cords but nothing happened. The display was lit, but there was no text and it didn't If the display was lit when you unplugged the power cord, then your Virus is probably posessed by the devil. Kick ass! Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 19:29:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: winne.toe@wxs.nl To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:21:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From winne.toe@wxs.nl unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 19:37:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:29:34 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 01:41 AM 5/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From "Gerald Thomson" Could you make a small comment on how well the Virus will work when controlled from the RM1x? It's a dream come true. Such an excellent combination of tools, imho. >Does it record knob movements? Yes, indeed, it certainly does. >Can it in any way compare to real sequncers, be they hard or soft? > The RM1X is a real sequencer. Software sequencers are not real. (I'm a hardware sequencer fan, having abandoned the crash-prone and angst-laden world of computers when it comes to making music ...) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 20:50:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:47:11 +0200 (MEST) From: Kanou Ame To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: one button? X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.141] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kanou Ame Ronald wrote: >Why do you need to engage your computer in order to hear yourVirus? I have all my music equipment on a single power switch, so the same > switch that turns on my Virus will also turn on the controller > keyboard. No computer needed. Within two seconds I'm playing. No > sweat. Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? i also think that you should not make this idea down! i think it s a little little new function and someone who does not need it shall not use it! so i think like Cam: >I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in > front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, >carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out > there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. and thats what i mean! you will be able to take your little virus with you perhaps to your girl-friend, plug in and make a nice ambient arp live-act! or think that u got a nice small studio with your friends. so one man is programming or playing with that damn masterkeyboard and u want to create new sounds with your virus. you power the machine on, take your headphones and start INFECTION! so christoph what do you think? and what does canine and the other list-members think? it s a small and i realy think easy new code to the os and nobody MUST use it! Kanou --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:06:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:04:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Frater Y2K-- Have you purchased your sequencer yet? If not, I STRONGLY recommend considering an Akai MPC2000. Its got a great sampling engine in it, as well as a serious sequencer and those lovely vel. sens. drum pads. Two MIDI ins, two MIDI outs,-- I got mine used WITH the effects card, 8-output expander (plus there's the two maiun outs) SMPTE reader & generator PLUS an effects card and the 32 Meg SIMMS memory for $1400 used. The base model (no FX, SMPTE or 8-outs) sells new for under $1200. Each qption runs about $250 new, but there not uncommon to find used. The only misfortunes I've had using the MPC with the virus are: a) The MPC is set up like a drum machine, with 16 vel sens pads for playing notes. The bad thing is, the MIDI note numbers assigned to these pads are'nt automatically scaled like a piano keyboard-- they're a little bit random. I think, though, there's a way to re-assign them so that they are layed out more like pitched keys. (The Ensoniq ASR-X, kind of an MPC clone, has its pads assigned and positioned like an octave on a keyboard.) b) The MPC has a limit of 1000 SysEx messages that can be loaded into its sequencer-- That's more than enough to load and save individual Virus patches, but sadly it can't handle loading O.S, updates. If you want, I could rattle on infinitely about how great the MPC is. On Fri, 7 May 1999, Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >* From Frater YearTwoThousand > > >Can anyone recommend an affordable sampler to use with my Virus? Minimalist that I am, I'm aiming for using the Virus, a sampler, an effects processor, and a sequencer; that's it. > >I've considered the AKAI S2000 - going price seems to be US $650 - $700 new, but the 8 output expansion brings the price up another $300 or so - and forget about the effects expansion - another $300; I don't even know if you can purchase flashram for it - if you can, I'm sure it's not cheap. > >Is there anything ~$1000/just under US $1000 that I ought to consider? I don't need any more than 32 MB expandability (with SIMMs). More than 2 outs is essential. On-board effects would be nice, but optional if the extra outputs are there. 16 part multitimbrality/16 voice minimum. > >A module would be best, but I'd consider a keyboard. Anyone ever used the Roland DJ-70mkII? I've seen that go for $750 but I'm not sure what the specs are; looks a little toyish. I wonder how it sounds/what its capabilities are. > >Have people posted their gear lists and where the Access Virus fits in? > >Canine - it would be cool to have list member profiles on your Access site, with gear run-downs, etc, if people would be into contributing html pages... I'm always curious to know what effects/samplers/synths/software other people are using. > >Thanks. > >- Frater > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 05:16:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:14:57 +0000 From: John Metz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Opinion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Metz On the debate of Cubase, I love the nice layout, attractive colors, and intuitive design. Cubase has a lot of positive qualities, but I HATED the lack of ability to organize patches. YES, I had Galaxy but it still didn't allow me to categorize my patches as well as Performer or Vision does. If Cubase would change that fact, I would switch back in a heartbeat. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:23:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:22:36 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: track Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! I've put a new track online. It's a Dnb workout and my Virus is all over the place. It's not entirely finished yet (needs some editing and mastering), but I really want some feedback, cos I'm not what I feel of it myself at this stage. (i've worked too long at it i guess). It's here: http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/carved.mp3 Thanks a lot for your feedback on forehand! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:29:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: how to make a new sound... Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:25:16 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" John Machielsen asked... >If i get this right, for me to make a new sound on my virus, i get to select the begin patch (A-127 START), edit it till it sounds good and save it in another slot ? > >Or is there another way, that you can begin from scratch ? Well there is nothing special about 'Start' - it's just not very complicated. If you are new to the Virus then you will probably learn a lot from altering existing sounds, so that you get to knowe the different parts of the synth engine quite well, and be able to predict how something will sound. Once you have that you can just go up to the Virus any time and on any patch and just set everything the way you want to and carry on from there. However it is pain to go into all the menus and stuff if you need to switch off LFO or assign settings, so sometimes it's easier to just jump to the 'Start' patch. Here's a simple and easy way to make this really quick: work in multi-single mode most of the time. Leave the Single mode patch as 'Start'. When you want to design something new, hit the Single button and just begin designing your sound, save it somewhere, go back into multi-single mode and just assign it to a channel. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:29:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: how to make a new sound... Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:25:19 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Cam wrote... >The START patch is about as close to "from scratch" as you get: it's a bare >sawtooth wave, with no embellishments of any kind. Your only other option is to select another pre-made patch and mess with it until you get what you >like. Actually it does have a negative Time factor on the amp envelope, so Start sounds won't sustain until you reset that. This used to get up my nose until I remembered to save it (I like to hold down a key and tweak for several minutes at a time usually...I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:29:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:29:05 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list , dbreakz Subject: sorry! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! I totally forgot my webserver has some strange MIME problem. The MP3 gets f*cked up completely. I've been through this before, but I forgot. Sorry again. I'll fix it ASAP. Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:41:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "J Remmen" To: Subject: Re: one button? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:39:40 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "J Remmen" this idea would simply rule, when i first got my virus i was hoping that that feature was already there, but it didnt disappoint me that it wasnt ----- Original Message ----- From: Kanou Ame To: Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 11:47 AM Subject: re: one button? >* From Kanou Ame > >Ronald wrote: > >>Why do you need to engage your computer in order to hear yourVirus? I have all my music equipment on a single power switch, so the same > >switch that turns on my Virus will also turn on the controller > >keyboard. No computer needed. Within two seconds I'm playing. No > sweat. > >Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? > >i also think that you should not make this idea down! i think it s a little little new function and someone who does not need it shall not use it! > >so i think like > >Cam: > >>I like this idea. It would allow me to design new sounds sitting in > >front of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right now, >>carrying my keyboard and extra cables and extra power supplies out > >there with my Virus is too much of a pain in the ass. > >and thats what i mean! you will be able to take your little virus with you perhaps to your girl-friend, plug in and make a nice ambient arp live-act! > >or think that u got a nice small studio with your friends. so one man is programming or playing with that damn masterkeyboard and u want to create new sounds with your virus. you power the machine on, take your headphones and start INFECTION! > >so christoph what do you think? >and what does canine and the other list-members think? > >it s a small and i realy think easy new code to the os and nobody MUST use it! > >Kanou > > >--- >Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 21:57:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:55:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: one button? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt WOuldn't it be cool if you could change the picth of the sound while it's playing with +/- buttons? --- Marc Visnick wrote: >* From Marc Visnick > >Yes! This would be awesome, indeed. >Pleasepleaseplease? > >-Marc > >At 12:09 PM 5/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >>* From Cam >> >>I like this idea. It would allow me to design new >sounds sitting in front >>of the TV, out on the porch, etc. As it is right >now, carrying my keyboard >>and extra cables and extra power supplies out there >with my Virus is too >>much of a pain in the ass. >> >>At 04:02 PM 5/9/99 +0200, you wrote: >>>so it would be realy realy realy realy nice if you >give us the option >>>to press one single button on the virus (like >store for example) to >>>get a sound played. it should be possible to say >how many voices >>>and which pitch shall sound (e.g. 3 sounds, f1), >too. >> >>Cam >>Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free >service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. >The FAQ for this list is >>available from >http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 22:44:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:46:46 +0200 From: Ernest Bruggeman Subject: Re: sorry! To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ernest Bruggeman Hey. Nu ik me dankzij Annick weer wat beter voel (...) zal ik je ook weer vaker lastigvallen.....:) Deze keer dacht ik aan domeinnamen: binaural.nl is op dit moment nog beschikbaar. Nog wel. Zou registreren niet slim zijn? Ook mbt de toekomst wellicht? (Wat de toewijzing van namen in de toekomst ook gaat worden, een blitse domeinnaam "uit de begintijd" zal zeker een pre zijn en zijn waarde behouden!!) Wie weet of je in de toekomst een eigen bedrijf of zoiets in een blitse branch (AV) krijgt, dan is zo'n naam wel grappig. Ga misschien zelf ook nog wel 's iets registreren.... "djong" (uit www-adres onder aan pagina) is wellicht ook wel een leuke naam ergens voor.... doei! -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jasper de Jong Aan: access list ; dbreakz Datum: maandag 10 mei 1999 22:05 Onderwerp: sorry! >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >I totally forgot my webserver has some strange MIME problem. The MP3 gets f*cked up completely. I've been through this before, but I forgot. > >Sorry again. I'll fix it ASAP. > >Bye >jasper >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 06:32:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:31:20 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? Route the JD800 midi out to the Virus midi in. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 10 23:47:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:55:08 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: randomizer parameter Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD yes christoph please add this, ask canine what is does to my pulses!!!! weld DTM wrote: >* From DTM > >I've recently gotten a Microwave XT and am totally nuts about the parameter randomizer. Might the Virus get such an option? > >DTM. > >"K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: > >>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >>>Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? >> >>Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! >> >>Access is listening! >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:00:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:01:56 +0200 From: Ernest Bruggeman Subject: Re: sorry! To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ernest Bruggeman And sorry to the members of the list. I hit Outlooks button! Ooops..... How stupid. Da##%(@#_@! -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Ernest Bruggeman Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: maandag 10 mei 1999 23:34 Onderwerp: Re: sorry! >* From Ernest Bruggeman > >Hey. Nu ik me dankzij Annick weer wat beter voel (...) zal ik je ook weer vaker lastigvallen.....:) >Deze keer dacht ik aan domeinnamen: binaural.nl is op dit moment nog beschikbaar. Nog wel. Zou registreren niet slim zijn? Ook mbt de toekomst wellicht? (Wat de toewijzing van namen in de toekomst ook gaat worden, een blitse domeinnaam "uit de begintijd" zal zeker een pre zijn en zijn waarde behouden!!) Wie weet of je in de toekomst een eigen bedrijf of zoiets in een >blitse branch (AV) krijgt, dan is zo'n naam wel grappig. Ga misschien zelf ook nog wel 's iets registreren.... > >"djong" (uit www-adres onder aan pagina) is wellicht ook wel een leuke naam ergens voor.... > >doei! >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Jasper de Jong >Aan: access list ; dbreakz Datum: maandag 10 mei 1999 22:05 >Onderwerp: sorry! > > >>* From Jasper de Jong >> >>Hi! >> >>I totally forgot my webserver has some strange MIME problem. The MP3 gets f*cked up completely. I've been through this before, but I forgot. >> >>Sorry again. I'll fix it ASAP. >> >>Bye >>jasper >>-- >>jsdejong@wxs.nl >>http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong >> >>OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 __________________________________________________________________________ _ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:33:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:27:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:47 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Kanou Ame wrote: >so christoph what do you think? >and what does canine and the other list-members think? > >it s a small and i realy think easy new code to the os and nobody MUST use it! since you addressed me personally I thought about it and I found that I don't dislike the idea at all! I very often play out live where the virus is little more than a neat looking Delay/Distortion/Filter Box for a Minidisk and a drummachine. I usually don't bring a midikeyboard since that would be too biug to carry (try fitting that in a backpack). So being able to fire off a sound with the Virus (then pressing "hold") to keep the sound would be most excellent! Christoph: let's do it! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:33:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:28:36 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: randomizer parameter Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:55 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 WELD wrote: >yes christoph please add this, ask canine what is does to my pulses!!!! weld yes and what it did to my pulse when I listened to welds pulses! Great! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:33:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:32:40 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: OT MPC 2000 (was Re: Virus + sampler) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Before getting an MPC 2000 please make sure you check out the website at: http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~tr-909/MPC2000e.html to make sure you understand where the MPC 2k is, where it will be and most important where it won't be going. It has some great features and it has some great quirks. If you like the features and can live with the quirsk (like I guess I can) it's simply awesome. If you think too much about all the things that went wrong with this machine (several users on the Akai list are contemplating a class action suit against Akai for misleading advertisement. Although this is about the S5000/6000, a lot (and I mean A LOT) of MPC users have had their share of Akai mess), you might start to hate it. Just make absolutely sure you know what you are getting into. Make sure you know what it can't do... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:31:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:39:53 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD more vi 2 ideas: 3 oscillaotors per patch, one special oscillator able to select from 1000's of spectral waves, or samples???? oberhiem 4 voice style multi mode, so every key press induces a new sound, you could rotate between 2 ,4 or 8 sounds??? subel , minuscule or drastic changes aforementioned random mode, press one butoonand get a new random sound. NO EFFECTS PLEASE weld K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 5:37 PM +0200 on 09.05.1999 Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >>Maybe a 'Virus II', a rack format with patch change knobs like the KBD and more processing power? Maybe with more features the origninal virus doesn't have enough capacity for? > >Hey Dimitri (and everyone else of course): keep those ideas streaming! > >Access is listening! > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 00:45:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:46:24 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:39 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 WELD wrote: >NO EFFECTS PLEASE oh but of course we need some effects: distortion, delay, flanger/chorus/phaser and stuff like that. Dn't bother adding reverb unless you licence it from the likes of Lexicon.. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 01:16:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:24:23 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT MPC 2000 (was Re: Virus + sampler) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD dont forget the ol mpc 60's guys, you can updrade these to scsi and the last mpc3000 system software, they are built like a tank. here in the staes you can find em al all ove rthe place for 700-800$ and i like mine so much i almost always use this computer just for email now weld K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Before getting an MPC 2000 please make sure you check out the website at: > >http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~tr-909/MPC2000e.html > >to make sure you understand where the MPC 2k is, where it will be and most important where it won't be going. > >It has some great features and it has some great quirks. If you like the features and can live with the quirsk (like I guess I can) it's simply awesome. If you think too much about all the things that went wrong with this machine (several users on the Akai list are contemplating a class action suit against Akai for misleading advertisement. Although this is about the S5000/6000, a lot (and I mean A LOT) of MPC users have had their share of Akai mess), you might start to hate it. Just make absolutely sure you know what you are getting into. > >Make sure you know what it can't do... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 01:27:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:25:39 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 01:29:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:27:40 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >At 12:39 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 WELD wrote: >>NO EFFECTS PLEASE > >oh but of course we need some effects: distortion, delay, flanger/chorus/phaser and stuff like that. Dn't bother adding reverb unless you licence it from the likes of Lexicon.. agreed ... delay especially is a no-brainer and really doesn't vary much from one manufacturer to another (the algorithm couldn't be simpler). I love the fact that I don't have to use the delay in my Lex MPX-100 (my only FX processor at the moment) and instead can have perfect clock-synced delay just with the V. Flanger and chorus have a *bit* of variation from piece to piece (I can tell a diff between my Virus' chorus and my MPX-100's "Rich Chorus"), and the distortion in the V is perfectly acceptable, but you're right in leaving the 'verb to the pros. Keep on Truckin! zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 02:37:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:45:45 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD they trade it in and by a virus : ) W Herb Ivore wrote: >* From Herb Ivore > >i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 04:40:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Cc: "Access List" Subject: Re: OT Cubase Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:35:17 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Paul, >So the problem might be your distributor for all you know? The distributor confirmed that he'd sent my mail (twice) to Steinberg. >They may not even know you exist. Maybe not, but I'm still influencing people away from Cubase... Maybe one conversion a month? Heh heh. >I really am sorry you feel this way but I can tell you I have been happily making music (including 6 CD releases) using Cubase (PC) for a long time. The key to getting it working well is a well-tuned PC system, good soundcard, good MIDI card and drivers - but if you're happy now and have made no system changes then Logic obviously suits your system better. My problem was neither audio or MIDI unreliability. The issues were nothing to do with my system, but the poor quality of Steinberg's design and implementation. Key problems with Cubase were ease of use : mouse-hand overload selecting from the toolbox, and awkward MIDI programming / editing. MIDI program settings by part / track had severely flawed design, and program change chase was badly broken. >I do get frustrated when reading constant "Cubase is crap" postings by people who never go on to substantiate this. Especially as the VERY SAME program works so well for me. The VST technology is better than the MIDI sequencing. If audio was what you were doing, you might have not had too many problems. But sequencing is a *rather* important part of a sequencer package. >So what is different - not the program but the ENVIRONMENT. Nope, not correct. >Please note: I did not post this (off-topic) mail to the Virus list, as I also did not with the previous one. Yeah, but I did. Lots of frustrated people are listening out there. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 04:46:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 04:44:09 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hey, >one special oscillator able to select from 1000's of spectral waves, or samples???? This is a very good idea !!! I'd love to see an Access synth using samples as well ! Or wouldn't it be great yo see a fully-featured Acces Sampler, that would beat all the Akai and Emu samplers ?! Imagine the filters of the Virus, used in a sampler,... I can only dream of it... On the other hand: I think Access will be much more creative than the things we're suggesting. ;) Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 06:06:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: annwn@zipcon.net Date: 10 May 1999 21:02:18 -0700 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe annwn@zipcon.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From annwn@zipcon.net unsubscribe annwn@zipcon.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 07:29:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Tomás Kejzlar To: Subject: Re: juno106 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:29:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?B?VG9t4XMgS2Vqemxhcg==?= NO!!! No kidding men. Actually I did it. And I sold my MS-20 too. Tomás Kejzlar Electra Glide Project: http://www.space.cz/home/Electra_Glide The-R-Mix: http://thermix.webjump.com Both sites in czech language only!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bilbo Bagginz To: Sent: 11. kvėtna 1999 11:16 Subject: Re: juno106 >* From Bilbo Bagginz > > > >Herb Ivore wrote: > >>* From Herb Ivore >> >>i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >>what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? > >Er, sell them and buy Viruses? > >Just kidding! > >Bilbo Bagginz > >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > >-- >http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 08:05:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:09:32 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: OT Cubase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam >Yeah, but I did. Lots of frustrated people are listening out there. And lots more people who don't give a shit about the ancient Cubase Vs. Logic debate. There's a Cubase mailing list. Use it and quit bogging down the *ACCESS VIRUS* list. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 16:15:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:12:48 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Anig Browl wrote: >I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you Marc Adler wrote: >I use guitar picks btwn the keys :) I use the Keymode/HOLD feature on the Control menu. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:07:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus + sampler + more wants... Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:02:51 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 10 May 1999 15:04:16 -0400 (EDT), Aaron E Havill wrote: >If you want, I could rattle on infinitely about how great the MPC is. Not necessary for me, at least on this list. If it had six MIDI ports it might be do the job I need but until such features are available in a hardware sequencer I'll stick to my (very reliable) Cubase. And, since this is a _Virus_ list, my wish (and there just a few left) for a future addition would be the ability to re-specify all the controller numbers. The JP8000 can do this and it makes it easier to remember all the numbers if they are the same as other synths you already own. Would only need to be done once so I don't mind a complicated menu option for it or even an external program. Hmmm, OK, and I'd like the ability to change the sub-oscillator waveform to sawtooth. And to detune it. I wouldn't mind if this reduced polyphony either since I expect the DSP load would probably be higher (?). Now I'm on the subject... I really miss seperate levels for each oscillator rather than the oscillator balance knob. And the Oscillator "level" seems a wasted option too since it is always at maximum (12 O''clock and over). And, since I (personally) always set that extra envelope stage (sustain level?) to '0', I'd like to re-assign the one for env1 to "velocity map to filter" and the one for env2 as "velocity map to output stage" (I find this invaluable on my Microwave XT). And I don't mind relabelling it myself. Oops... I'll stop now... ;-) But actually if nothing else were ever added I'd _still_ be content. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: softroom@btinternet.com web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:52:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:21 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:25 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. Any other ideas? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:52:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:38:51 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:07 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 Bilbo Bagginz wrote: >I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. > >Rant over, > >Catchalata, >Bilbo Bagginz (cured ex- equipment junkie) Word up. It's always good to be reminded by someone to finish first, then venture on... I find it a good excercise to visit a friend in their studio and bring only one single piece of gear (my Virus or my sampler). Then I have to stick to that machine most of the day which really makes me think about how to do something that I normally would use another machine. This is pushing the limits and getting to know your gear better. Invaluable in my opinion! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 10:45:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I went shopping for a friend... Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:43:16 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Thanks! I now know what to save up for! >At 01:41 AM 5/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >>* From "Gerald Thomson" Could you make a small comment on how well the Virus will work when controlled from the RM1x? > >It's a dream come true. Such an excellent combination of tools, imho. > >>Does it record knob movements? > >Yes, indeed, it certainly does. > >>Can it in any way compare to real sequncers, be they hard or soft? >> > >The RM1X is a real sequencer. Software sequencers are not real. > >(I'm a hardware sequencer fan, having abandoned the crash-prone and angst-laden world of computers when it comes to making music ...) > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 03:11:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:07:35 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Has anyone else noticed that the modulation matrix (assign page) in the Virus is unpredictable with certain parameters? e.g try setting lfo 1 to modulate filter env decay or attack, amount + or - 64 and yes, the env amount is on full for filters 1 and 2. And just plain doesn't seem to work with some others. e.g lfo 1 to uni spread + or - 64 In the first case I would expect the filter env to be modded the same as when I grab the knob pertaining to the parameter and twist it back and forth over it's whole range or at least half of the range (+ or - 64) This doesn't happen, there is a small amount of mod. though as I said not as much I expect. In the second case, I'll be buggered if I can hear anything happening to the sound at all, in terms of changing stereo spread despite much experimentation changing the value of the uni spread parameter saved with the patch. I have found a few other parameters which didn't act in the way I would expect. The problem mainly being not much in the range of modulation available. As far as new features for the Virus goes, I would rather the energy went into finishing the features in the present one And as for the conversation about mythical Virus 2, I can't see why anyone would want to be thinking about creating/desiring/buying another machine when we have not even begun to explore the sonic potential of this incredible machine yet. Unless they were chronically addicted to consumerism. IMO The Virus is one of the best, if not the best designed fixed archtecture virtual analogue synths presently in existence. (I used a Waldorf Q to co-write a track last week in my studio and was surprised to find that I preferred the sound of the Virus.) The interface of the Virus is so stunningly well thought out in that it's very easy to use fast. Which is paramount when actually making music. I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. Rant over, Catchalata, Bilbo Bagginz (cured ex- equipment junkie) -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 03:20:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:16:39 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Herb Ivore wrote: >* From Herb Ivore > >i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? Er, sell them and buy Viruses? Just kidding! Bilbo Bagginz >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 11:41:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: IoS - Hannes Meder Organization: IoS GmbH To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Re: Major hangup - Need help Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:19:02 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From IoS - Hannes Meder < To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: Making keys stick Date: 11 May 99 03:30:39 -0800 X-ID: 3481BD81071211D39CA900105AC9AC89 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Adler I use guitar picks btwn the keys :) >** Original Subject: Making keys stick >** Original Sender: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" ** Original Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:21 +0200 >** Original Message follows... > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 9:25 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >>.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). > >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... > >A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. > >Any other ideas? > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Download Neoplanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 18:55:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:41:51 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: LONG: list manners Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi everyone, some of the Macintosh users on this list may have read this before but I'd like to post this anyways to make it known. I don't agree with every word adam writes but most of the things he says really do make sense. the following article appeared in the Macintosh weekly newsletter TidBITS and can be found at the following URL: please read it, think about it and pass the URL on to others. Mailing List Manners 101 ------------------------ by Adam C. Engst It's no secret that I'm a huge fan of mailing lists. I both subscribe to and operate a number of lists on many topics, and I spend much of my day communicating professionally and personally in these discussion groups. And yet, I'm troubled by behaviors I see in most lists. Many people pay little attention to spelling, grammar, and the basic composition of their messages, post pointless notes, and bulk up replies by quoting complete originals and appending huge signatures. How you write in email - especially in public places like mailing lists - affects how other people regard you, your opinions, and your knowledge. Think of it this way: if mailing list messages were a reflection of personal hygiene, you don't want to come across to others like you need a shower, clean clothes, and a haircut. Here then are the main behaviors that I would encourage for all mailing list participants. If you're as bothered by the problems in mailing lists as I am, feel free to refer others to this article for advice. You can link to it permanently at this URL: **Write Carefully** -- I realize that I risk sounding like a pedant here, but in cases like this, I don't care. Writing skills in the general Internet populace stink, which means you can make yourself look even more intelligent and thoughtful than you are by writing well. Good writing isn't difficult, and requires only grammatical sentences and proper spelling. You don't need to be a professional writer or be able to make words flow trippingly off the tongue. You should also follow a few basic rules when writing email: * Don't use all capital letters for more than a word. * Insert a blank line between paragraphs. * Surround URLs with angle brackets to avoid problems at line breaks. * Don't use text styles (like bold or italic) or text colors in mailing list messages, since many people won't see them and may even see HTML tags instead. **Quote Sparingly** -- One of my peeves with mailing lists is that people seldom delete unnecessary quoted text in their replies, with the worst being people who reply to a message in a digest and quote the entire digest. Quoting sparingly does require manual work, since most email programs automatically quote the original message in replies. But failing to edit the original wastes everyone's time and bandwidth. In some email programs, you can select some text in the original message, press a keyboard shortcut, and have only that text appear quoted in the reply. (Eudora for the Macintosh does this with its Command-Shift-R shortcut.) Other email programs assume that replying with some original text selected means you want to quote only that text. Especially problematic are email programs that quote an original message by appending it to the bottom of the reply with no quote marks in front of each line. That prevents inline replies, since there's no easy way to differentiate original and new text, so users of those programs tend to leave the entire original hanging off the end of the reply. That's fine in private messages, but in mail destined for a list, it's just sloppy. Unfortunately, the only solution to this problem is to switch to a different email program **Avoid Junk Messages** -- Another complaint about people's behavior on mailing lists revolves around "junk" messages. I'm not talking about spam, since spammers aren't constructive members of a mailing list. Instead, junk messages fall into the following categories: * Unsubscribe messages mistakenly sent by subscribers who didn't read (or locate) the instructions for leaving the list. Every list goes to lengths to simplify the process of signing off, and yet a large number of people still send unsubscribe messages to the list itself. Read and save the welcome message you receive when you subscribe to a list, then refer to it when you want to unsubscribe. * Me-too posts sent by well-meaning list members replying only to convey that they agree with a message or had a similar experience. A Web-based poll is a better way to take votes on a topic. * Welcome messages that appear when someone new joins the list. No one on a mailing list needs to read "Glad to have you on the list!" from everyone; send such messages to the new member in private mail. * Congratulation messages that appear after a member of the list has mentioned some milestone or personal triumph. Again, send these in private email. The moral of the story is simple: Avoid sending junk messages to a list. They're easy to identify as you type - just ask yourself if the message would be of interest to the majority of the mailing list. If not, that doesn't mean your message is worthless: the original sender might appreciate being welcomed or congratulated via private email. **Write Descriptive Subjects** -- When you receive messages from a mailing list, the first thing you see is the subject line. Which of these subject lines would you rather see on a mailing list devoted to, say, tropical fish? >wondering >Recommendations for fish that can live with cichlids Unless your telepathic powers are better than mine, the first subject line tells you nothing. So, the first rule of subject lines is to make them descriptive. Another problem affects primarily digest readers. They see an interesting message and want to reply, but when they do so, their email program uses the subject line of the digest (Tropical Fish Digest #251) rather than the subject of the message. That leads to messages being sent to the list with useless subject lines, since the title of the digest is rarely descriptive. There's no good solution to this problem, although two mediocre workarounds exist. * Copy the subject line from the message to which you're replying and paste it into your reply's subject line, prefixing it with "Re:". This is effort well spent. * Have the digest sent as a MIME digest and use an email program like Eudora Pro that can separate the digest into individual messages in a mailbox. The problem goes away then, but, for some people, so does the point of receiving the digest version of a list. Sometimes you want to reply to a message but change the topic of discussion. When you do that, you should change the subject line; if you don't, people following the thread will be confused when your message doesn't match its subject. Some people (and some programs) indicate when they've changed a subject line by appending "(was )" to the new subject. That's acceptable but results in long and unwieldy subject lines that work badly in list archives. On the other side are people who change the subject lines on every message they send. That's equally problematic, since it prevents list members from reading (or sorting) messages that are related by a shared subject line. If you create descriptive subjects, maintain the correct subjects if you're a digest reader, and change subjects only when appropriate, you'll be well on your way to being admired as a paragon of list etiquette. **Use Short Signatures** -- My final gripe about mailing list postings is that many people have long signatures at the end of their messages. Email signatures are useful, but mailing list signatures should be kept to a minimum. This is especially true for lists that have digests because the signatures can take up a significant portion of the digest. For instance, messages with long signatures sent to the moderated Info-Mac Digest are rejected with a note asking the person to resend with a shorter signature. Many email programs let you switch between multiple signatures, but you have to remember to do so for each message. There's a trick you can use in Eudora Pro (but not Eudora Light) to switch signatures automatically when you're replying to messages that come from mailing lists. Follow these steps: 1) In the Signatures window create a shortened signature for use with mailing lists called "Short signature." Your name, affiliation, email address, and URL are all that is essential. 2) In the Personalities settings panel, create a personality called "Mailing list signature." Fill in the Real Name and Return Address fields, and select the "Send mail whenever sends are done" checkbox. All the other fields can be blank, and the checkboxes related to checking mail should be deselected. 3) Switch to the Personality Extras settings panel, leave the Stationery pop-up menu set to None, and choose Short signature from the "Signature when not using stationery" pop-up menu. Click OK to save your personality settings. 4) Open the Filters window. In filters that move messages from mailing lists into specific mailboxes, add a Make Personality action, and from the Personality pop-up menu, choose "Mailing list signature." You've created a signature for use with mailing lists, connected it with a specific personality that differs from your dominant personality only in the default signature setting, then created a filter that automatically assigns that personality to incoming messages from mailing lists. Now, whenever you reply to a message from a mailing list, Eudora Pro knows to use your mailing list personality and thus your mailing list signature. You'll still have to choose your mailing list signature manually when sending a new message to a list, but all replies will use it automatically. **Ridin' that High Horse** -- I freely admit that there's nothing new in this article (well, except maybe the Eudora tip above). These recommendations have been floating around the Internet as long as there has been an Internet. The sad fact is, though, that mailing list manners haven't improved with time. So why can I complain? Two reasons. First, I think it's important that this topic, old as it is, remains in the public eye. Second, I do the work every day to create a mailing list that tries to conform to all the recommendations above. In TidBITS Talk, I do the following to every message: * Basic editing and spell checking, which is significantly eased by Eudora Pro 4.2's inline spell checker. I also add blank lines between paragraphs, add angle brackets to URLs, and remove styled text. * Eliminate unnecessary original text in replies. This task is quite easy, since wholesale deletions take little time. * Reject junk messages. Most mailing lists aren't moderated, but eliminating junk messages, or even multiple identical answers to the same question, is a major advantage of moderation. * Normalize subject lines. I try to keep similar messages in threads and break new thoughts out into new threads. This work also improves the quality and coherence of our archive database. * Signature pruning. Since I'm already editing messages, it's little extra work to trim signatures to their essentials. I do all this work because I think it makes for a far better list experience, and highly positive feedback from the members of the TidBITS Talk list confirms this. Another advantage is that this work tends to keep the list volume down, since I'm less likely to post messages that require a lot of work to clean up. I'm not trying to be smug - I love it when I can post submissions to TidBITS Talk without a lick of work. I also don't expect most other people who run mailing lists to expend this level of effort (though I wouldn't complain if some did). Instead, my goal here is to educate people who participate in mailing lists, since only by improving our list manners will mailing lists continue to become increasingly pleasant and useful. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 14:18:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:15:56 +0100 From: der weg nach drauþen Organization: [] To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: >>>>>>>> VIRUS FOR SALE AGAIN <<<<<<<<<< Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From der weg nach drauþen Hi Folks. I am selling a Virus Desktop. The price is DM 1.850. The device is new and the package has not been opened yet. mail to me asap. cu licht ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 14:19:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:17:50 +0100 From: der weg nach drauþen Organization: [] To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: >>>>>>>> VIRUS FOR SALE AGAIN <<<<<<<<<< Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi Folks. I am selling a Virus Desktop. The price is DM 1.850. The device is new and the package has not been opened yet. mail to me asap. cu licht Message-ID: <37382D8B.487E@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:15:56 +0100 From: der weg nach drauþen Organization: [] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: >>>>>>>> VIRUS FOR SALE AGAIN <<<<<<<<<< References: <373731FC.8446B873@wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks. I am selling a Virus Desktop. The price is DM 1.850. The device is new and the package has not been opened yet. mail to me asap. cu lichtX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 15:39:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:33:11 EDT Subject: Re: Making keys stick To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 5/11/99 5:15:05 AM, canine@muenster.de writes: << >.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to >keep them down :-) ). What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... >> I hit the chord I want to play, press and hold the sustain pedal, then switch instruments in my sequencer- the notes will then hang until I send an "all notes off" message. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 16:50:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:47:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Okay, here's an other idea: The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. Dimitri. >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > At 9:25 PM +0200 on 10.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >>.I stick bits of cardboard between the keys to keep them down :-) ). >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I usually use sticky tape, the kind used to protect things like light switches when you paint/redecorate your walls. Don't leave it on there for too long, or it will get stuck to your synth forever... >A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. >Any other ideas? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 18:10:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: UniqueDBE@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:06:02 EDT Subject: Re: juno106 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From UniqueDBE@aol.com I run'em through distortion fx, namely the SE50 and a Metal Zone. Man, what a difference! << what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 18:13:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: UniqueDBE@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT Subject: Re: Making keys stick To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From UniqueDBE@aol.com I just lean my Strat against the KB. << A friend of mine uses lead weights (about 50g-100g) which he puts on the keys, in chord configuration and lets them sit there. Lead weights as used for fishing. Any other ideas? >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 19:06:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:04:06 +0200 (MEST) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: one button? From: Kanou Ame X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000362565@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.8.218.132] X-Flags: 0001 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Kanou Ame canine wrote: >I very often play out live where the virus is little more than a neat looking Delay/Distortion/Filter Box for a Minidisk and a drummachine. > >I usually don't bring a midikeyboard since that would be too biug to carry >(try fitting that in a backpack). So being able to fire off a sound with the Virus (then pressing "hold") to keep the sound would be most excellent! > >Christoph: let's do it! yea! that s what i m talking of! it s realy cool to FIRE OFF a sound! ronald wrote: >Route the JD800 midi out to the Virus midi in. okay man, i am now able to route my jd to the virus but do you still think that my idea is bad? please look at those examples canine, valentijn, cam and me myself and i suggested. and btw, what s the virus-programmers opinion? thank you kanou --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 20:53:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mattrelaxing@pop.mindspring.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:50:03 -0400 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "Matt T." Subject: unsubscribe mattrelaxing@mindspring.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Matt T." unsubscribe mattrelaxing@mindspring.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 20:53:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: J.Parr@tesco.net Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:55:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Major hangup - Need help Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From J.Parr@tesco.net My first virus did exactly this,I sent it back and they gave me a new one. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 21:49:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: J.Parr@tesco.net Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:51:17 +0100 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: release time Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From J.Parr@tesco.net I read somewhere or heard ,that the Nord modular can produce sounds that last 48 hours without repeating.Can the virus be made to do this?any ideas. james ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 22:04:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: Re: juno106 To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus weird... no one here who onws a juno106 likes it??... why is that? all i hear is good things about them.. i have heard them and they are very nice.. they are classic goa synths.... is the virus that much better then the 106?... ****just to ask***** anyone selling a mpx100 novation drumstaion xp60 777 tc electronic fireworx hehe .... if your selling any thing there.. lemme know =) -Cyngus cyngus_@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 22:25:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:23:48 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: release time Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:51 PM +0200 on 11.05.1999 J.Parr@tesco.net wrote: >* From J.Parr@tesco.net > >I read somewhere or heard ,that the Nord modular can produce sounds that last 48 hours without repeating.Can the virus be made to do this?any ideas. wasn't it the Nord that had LFO times of up to 7 minutes? A few of those intermingled and you're there. I don't think the Virus can do it. But then, most of my songs are a lot shorter than 48 hours... ;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 22:48:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: juno106 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:49:27 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Cyngus Cyngus Wrote: >weird... no one here who onws a juno106 likes it??... why is that? Well, to be fair, this IS the Virus list. ;-> Seriously, I owned a Juno106 for years - it's a wonderful machine that does a dozen things really well, with a very immediate interface. That's the coolest thing about it is how easy it is to come up with sounds. The downside is that you can reach the limit of the instrument pretty fast, and that chorus is HISSY. When I sold mine, I got the Virus shortly thereafter, and I use it for the same sort of sounds. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 16:58:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:51:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >e.g try setting lfo 1 to modulate filter env decay or attack, amount + or - 64 and yes, the env amount is on full for filters 1 and 2. LFO -> FltDecay works OK on my Virus. Is the LFO triggering despite TrigPhase Off? I remember that happening to me once. >e.g lfo 1 to uni spread + or - 64 Doesn't seem to work on mine either >I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. Agree! But it *is* fun to dream about a successor... and Access will be forced to develop new products at some point in the future... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 16:58:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus + sampler + more wants... Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:23:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Hi Paul >Now I'm on the subject... I really miss seperate levels for each oscillator rather than the oscillator balance knob. Personally, I think the balance knob is very sensible (and oscillator balance is a useful destination for modulation!) >And the Oscillator "level" seems a wasted option too since it is always at maximum (12 o'clock and over). This idea is dependant on the one above - you either have balance+level or 2xlevel. If you have OSC BAL, you have to have OSC VOL going down to 0. My vote - leave it be, and save a knob. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 16:58:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Making keys stick Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:40:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >What do other people use? This is a nice little game... I use a torn-off flap from cigarette papers underneath e.g C and E to play D. This only works with white notes on a thin-keyed instrument. Other more and less sensible ideas: 1. A very small balloon filled with lead shot 2. Several combat knifes (Keith Emerson-style) 3. A non-musician and also non-drummer 4. A currently unused appendage Enough - it's getting too silly already.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 17:22:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:18:19 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: one button? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Ronald Pieket wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > >>Sorry man but i am not able to let my virus sound without my computer. i use a jd800 as my masterkeyboard so please tell me MAN: how is it possible to play my virus over a midi patchbay with a jd800 ???????? > >Route the JD800 midi out to the Virus midi in. > >- Ronald. Or use a cheap to buy midi switching box? The Phillip Rees 3B does it for me. About 30UK Pounds Bilbo Bagginz >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 11 17:28:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:24:54 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Tomás Kejzlar wrote: >* From =?iso-8859-1?B?VG9t4XMgS2Vqemxhcg==?= > >NO!!! >No kidding men. >Actually I did it. And I sold my MS-20 too. > >Tomás Kejzlar >Electra Glide Project: http://www.space.cz/home/Electra_Glide The-R-Mix: http://thermix.webjump.com >Both sites in czech language only!!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bilbo Bagginz To: >Sent: 11. kvėtna 1999 11:16 >Subject: Re: juno106 > >>* From Bilbo Bagginz >> >> >> >>Herb Ivore wrote: >> >>>* From Herb Ivore >>> >>>i own a juno and have a difficult time getting the sounds i like out of it... >>>what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno sounds??? >> >>Er, sell them and buy Viruses? >> >>Just kidding! >> >>Bilbo Bagginz >> >Strangely enough Tomás, I just sold my Korg MS20 too 3 days ago . It was surplus to requirements. Catchalata, Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 04:30:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:28:47 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com, "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: LONG: list mannersk9 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore i think manners on the list should be implemented a little more conciously.. but you have given a bad example.. you just quoted a lengthy story sent it to hundreds of members and it is off topic... it's kinda funny.. what does it have to do with mac owners?? u being prejudice??? got something against mac heads?? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 09:04:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Fw: patches Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:00:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" |Hi list, | |The new software with the second midi-file makes the Virus lose some sounds. |A trick to get the old Bank A and B into the new Bank C and D is to load the |second midi-file named: |secon15x.mid | |But before you do that you need to load first the second midi-file of 2.51 |and load the presets in the Bank A and B. |Now you have all factory-sounds together in Bank A and B (with the new ones) |and Bank C and D (the old ones). | |To Canine I will send a new Multie dump with the old multies (they make use |of the Bank C and D). | |With best regards, | |Rob Papen |___________________________________ |ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC |Homepage: www.robpapen.com |E-mail: rob@robpapen.com | |What is new our coming out soon: | |- EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) | |- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) | |-TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 | |- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm | |___________________________________ | |Tel: 00-31 475410188 |Fax: 00-31 475410089 |___________________________________ | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 09:42:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:39:58 +0200 Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 11 May 1999 16:47:53 +0200 (MET DST), Dimitri Sijperda wrote: >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Okay, here's an other idea: > >The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. You can implement something like this easily: Just insert an opening trigger switch into your MIDI connection. Hold down the keys, press the button, release the keys and no NOTE OFF will be transferred. Release the button and continue to play. If you want to stop all the noise you can use the VIRUS' panic function or press your selfmade button, hold down the keys you wish to release, release your button and then release the keys. This works, is cheap and might be a solution for some live applications (Maybe I could sell patched MIDI cables for a fortune if I only had time...). Oh, and by the way: Keys have an auto-stick feature if you treat your keyboard with coke and crisps. Just perfect for this "I-don't-know-how-to-make-music-but-everyone-in-the-club-is-banging-head s-if-I-hold-down-the-demo-button - retro-sound". ;-) CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrausch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 09:48:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:46:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT, UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: >* From UniqueDBE@aol.com > >I just lean my Strat against the KB. Ever thought about the "reverse keytriggering option" ? RKO works like this: You stick carpet tape to all your keys. Then you remove the coils responsible for pulling the keys up. Now you have all notes playing unless you decide to put your finger upon some keys and lift them up. This would require note off dynamics features in your keyboard in order to play dynamically. And someone might want to design a PC program to swap NOTE OFF and NOTE ON to have almost regular operations again. Now you know it: I am the worlds' biggest inventor since Edison and Bell. :-) CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 12:40:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:46:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Making keys stick X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT, UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: >* From UniqueDBE@aol.com > >I just lean my Strat against the KB. Ever thought about the "reverse keytriggering option" ? RKO works like this: You stick carpet tape to all your keys. Then you remove the coils responsible for pulling the keys up. Now you have all notes playing unless you decide to put your finger upon some keys and lift them up. This would require note off dynamics features in your keyboard in order to play dynamically. And someone might want to design a PC program to swap NOTE OFF and NOTE ON to have almost regular operations again. Now you know it: I am the worlds' biggest inventor since Edison and Bell. :-) CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 10:12:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:09:22 +0200 Subject: OT: Input devices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" After some laughs about sticky keyboards I thought about ideas for input devices - especially for those in need for intuitional live playing. Midi-Joystick: There is a freeware tool for windows pc which generates MIDI code from joystick movement. The joystick is attached to the usual game port. With Cubase mixermaps (for example) you could use the generated MIDI code just to control mixer elements which then control your VIRUS. Think about resonance and cutoff both on the tip of one finger... Maybe someone wants to desing a programm which could make use of the DirectPlay features. Thus you could take almost any game input device to generate music. The standard game port has four analogue and four switching inputs - this would be enough for a cheap self-made fader box. Laser-Harp: Take a VERY cheap midi keybord from Toys'R'nt Us and connect some of the key switches with light detectors (closing when dark). Now you need those cute laser pointers available vor a few bucks at every corner during summer open-air concerts. Build a frame and let the lasers point directly to the detectors. Now you can trigger a note by cutting the beam. Looks much nicer with stage fog. Any more ideas ? CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 13:11:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:09:22 +0200 Subject: OT: Input devices X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" * From "Philipp Mott" After some laughs about sticky keyboards I thought about ideas for input devices - especially for those in need for intuitional live playing. Midi-Joystick: There is a freeware tool for windows pc which generates MIDI code from joystick movement. The joystick is attached to the usual game port. With Cubase mixermaps (for example) you could use the generated MIDI code just to control mixer elements which then control your VIRUS. Think about resonance and cutoff both on the tip of one finger... Maybe someone wants to desing a programm which could make use of the DirectPlay features. Thus you could take almost any game input device to generate music. The standard game port has four analogue and four switching inputs - this would be enough for a cheap self-made fader box. Laser-Harp: Take a VERY cheap midi keybord from Toys'R'nt Us and connect some of the key switches with light detectors (closing when dark). Now you need those cute laser pointers available vor a few bucks at every corner during summer open-air concerts. Build a frame and let the lasers point directly to the detectors. Now you can trigger a note by cutting the beam. Looks much nicer with stage fog. Any more ideas ? CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 11:23:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:23:22 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Peter Govaers Subject: Re: juno106 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Peter Govaers >weird... no one here who onws a juno106 likes it??... why is that? >all i hear is good things about them.. i have heard them and they are very nice.. they are classic goa synths.... is the virus that much better then the 106?... I have a Juno106 and like it a lot. I thought about selling it on a number of occasions but every time I decided not too. I like the sound, it has a lot of balls, that classic pure analogue feel and the filter/resonance is very good. Real screamy sounds if you wish. I just has that little extra that a real analogue has. It is limited in possibilities though, but what I can do, it does it brilliant. That's my opinion. And oh, I don't have a Virus (yet) to compare with.... P ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 13:36:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: Making keys stick Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:41:03 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" Sorry, i am. There are lots of ways to make keys stick, but no arp machine like mine. Because my son doesnt like his legos anymore I took one of the small electric engines and mounted an excenter. Combined with a potentiometer and a stand in the shape of an X-Wing this machine makes nice 1-key arpeggios if placed on the keys in the right way. Cause of the wide range of possible rpm i can even reach audio-frequencies. I'm still working on the right frequency to create the typical laser sound, til now i only reached the hoover-like Tie fighter noise. Greets Stefan > >* From "Philipp Mott" > >On Tue, 11 May 1999 12:08:15 EDT, UniqueDBE@aol.com wrote: > > >Now you know it: I am the worlds' biggest inventor since Edison and Bell. > >:-) >CU >flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:51:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Carsten Hohmann" To: Subject: unsubscribe chohman@stud.uni-goettingen.de Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:25:41 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Carsten Hohmann" unsubscribe chohman@stud.uni-goettingen.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 15:23:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:20:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: release time Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I have an idea: Use anything that has something periodical: -the arpeggiator -the lfo's of course -the osc2 and interface it with each other. I just made a patch like this. Mmm. pretty cewl. Dimitri. >>I read somewhere or heard ,that the Nord modular can produce sounds that >>last 48 hours without repeating.Can the virus be made to do this?any ideas. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 17:37:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: mattrelaxing@mindspring.com X-Sender: mattrelaxing@pop.internal.mindspring.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:34:48 -0400 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: subscribe mattrelaxing@mindspring.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From mattrelaxing@mindspring.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:03:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:46:53 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 23:40 Uhr +0200 on 11.05.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >Enough - it's getting too silly already.... That's what I was hoping for when I asked...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 21:13:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Making keys stick Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:07:11 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Ronald Pieket wrote... >I use the Keymode/HOLD feature on the Control menu. Don't you find it a little unspontaneous? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 21:13:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Making keys stick Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:07:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Dimitri sijperda wrote... >The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. This is not such a bad idea, although I don't mind doing the things the old way. I would like a panic button - quite often my Virus chokes and leaves a note sustaining after a sequence ends, even when I change patch. While it is interesting to change patch in mid-note for an unusual sound, I would prefer a simple way to just reset all 12 voices. I find myself rebooting about once every hour when I am composing - a situation where I am not thinking always about performance requirements. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 22:35:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:33:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Really, what are you taliking about "NO EFFECTS"? I love the thinking behind what's there already-- no wasted energy spent on half-assed reverbs, the chorus is lovely too. I'd be ecstatic to see a good distortion, a phaser, some other goodies get added. My only effects gripe-- if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? Some one on the list responded to me when I asked about this a while back, saying that the jumps were "perfectly acceptable for all musical applications" which is simply not true. On Tue, 11 May 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 12:39 AM +0200 on 11.05.1999 WELD wrote: >>NO EFFECTS PLEASE > >oh but of course we need some effects: distortion, delay, flanger/chorus/phaser and stuff like that. Dn't bother adding reverb unless you licence it from the likes of Lexicon.. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:20:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:09:06 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 21:07 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: >>The access virus KBD should have a hold button, just to hold down the notes you're pressing. When you hit the hold button again, the notes are releasued. Meanwhile, you still can play other notes. But there is a hold feature in the menu somewhere. The kbd will have this. >I would prefer >a simple way to just reset all 12 voices. press both transpose keys simultaneously. This will panic the virus. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:07:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:10:17 +0200 From: Henrik Lübker Organization: Corporate Culture X-Accept-Language: en To: Access Virus List Subject: Barbara Morgenstern Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Henrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCbker?= Hi I can't remember with whom I spoke about Barbara Morgenstern. But anyway I just wanted to say that I went to a concert she gave in Copenhagen a couple of weeks ago, and she really blew me away. So now I am waiting for the CD to arrive from germany. Henrik pure silk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:21:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:10:44 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 22:33 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1999 Aaron E Havill wrote: >if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? Some one on the list responded to me when I asked about this a while back, saying that the jumps were "perfectly acceptable for all musical applications" which is simply not true. because in order to be able to express delay values in 128 steps (MIDI resolution) you need a grid like this. Just remember that when the Virus is synced to midi clock you will get any value necessary, not the closest approximation on those 128 values.. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:35:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:33:52 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >distortion, a phaser, some other goodies get added. My only effects gripe-- if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? yo ... it's all about MIDI Clock sync ... toss out your BPM/ms conversion tables and your HP scientific calculator and get your sequencer sending Midi Clock ... this is where things are so nnnnice and easy! Tell Delay that you want a cycle every 3/64, 1/4, 3/8, 2/3, 2/1, etc. of a whole note and BAM it's perfect... change the tempo, and the Virus stays synced. What could be better? -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 20:39:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:34:13 -0700 From: Elwood Smith Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OFF, Looking for CDs in NYC Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elwood Smith go to sonicgrooves on Carmine st in the Village, they have all the joints Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: > >* From Davidzzz@aol.com > >Hi, > >I am visiting New York City this week and Hoped to find some record stores that carried Techno, dance, electronic type stuff. > >Any ideas?? > >thanks, > >David >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 12 23:58:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:55:56 +0200 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Making keys stick Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hans w. koch" ...but there is already some panic button: just press both transpose buttons together - all sounds off. my contribution to keys stick: hit some keys at the keyboard (evolution dance station, which is nice and small), then switch midi channel,while holding keys depressed. hwk Anig Browl wrote: >. I would like a panic button - quite often my Virus chokes and leaves a note sustaining after a sequence ends, even when I change patch. While it is interesting to change patch in mid-note for an unusual sound, I would prefer a simple way to just reset all 12 voices. I find myself rebooting about once every hour when I am composing - a situation where I am not thinking always about performance requirements. > >Anig Browl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 00:11:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill True, true... still, when processing external audio (or running it without a sequencer to sync to) I've longed for more precise delay timing on several occassions. Can't the MIDI limitation of 128 steps be worked around with LSB & MSB? On Wed, 12 May 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 22:33 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1999 Aaron E Havill wrote: >>if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? Some one on the list responded to me when I asked about this a while back, saying that the jumps were "perfectly acceptable for all musical applications" which is simply not true. > >because in order to be able to express delay values in 128 steps (MIDI resolution) you need a grid like this. > >Just remember that when the Virus is synced to midi clock you will get any value necessary, not the closest approximation on those 128 values.. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 02:54:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:42:34 -0700 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Gear for sale - good prices. Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan My buddy Cyb is selling his stuff. Sadly. But, for good prices. Check it out and let him know if you're interested: http://www.bioroid.com/gear.htm j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 05:42:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:38:38 EDT Subject: anyone want a virus? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Mine is for sale with a price tag of $850 plus shipping. If anyone's intersted send me a direct e-mail. Thanks. C. (would prefer to sell in the D/FW area, but not necessary) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 07:02:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: madler@206.13.28.38 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:58:34 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Adler Subject: Re: anyone want a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Adler At 11:38 PM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From ThaPhunkE1@aol.com > >Mine is for sale with a price tag of $850 plus shipping. If anyone's intersted send me a direct e-mail. Thanks. Sold. I want it! Email me your phone number so we can discuss shipping. Thanks, Marc Adler madler@pacbell.net PGP DH/DSS 0x2D090BDF ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 02:32:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:44:12 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Howard, thanks for your response. I just had another go prompted by your response and have discovered that I need to have the patch in any of the four mono modes to get the effect that I was after. i.e automated variation on the decay timewhen using a fast arpeggiated sequence. I am not sure but I think this means that the filter env. doesn't retrigger in poly mode. What do you (or anyone else) think? It certainly re-triggers in any of the mono modes. Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > > >>e.g try setting lfo 1 to modulate filter env decay or attack, amount + or - 64 and yes, the env amount is on full for filters 1 and 2. > >LFO -> FltDecay works OK on my Virus. Is the LFO triggering despite TrigPhase Off? I remember that happening to me once. > >>e.g lfo 1 to uni spread + or - 64 > >Doesn't seem to work on mine either > >>I say let's get this one complete and bug free first, so that it can take it's rightful place as a classic synth, which it already is in my mind. > >Agree! But it *is* fun to dream about a successor... and Access will be forced to develop new products at some point in the future... > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 02:30:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:26:40 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Split Mode, Filter Slopes and Sub Oscillators Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Access team and Access list. After writing the best part of my new album with the Red Beast, here's a few things that I found myself wishing that the Virus did. And that I'd like to see implemented on the Virus. 1. Clock rates of 8 bars and 16 bars. Don't forget if you want to modulate up over 8 bars and down over 8 bars (which I do) with a triangle wave, you will need a 16 bar cycle. 2. An option to have a 4 pole filter each side in split mode. (as opposed to 2 poles each side which we have at present.) The main use for this for me would be for creating bass sounds. As it stands It's very easy to create only some types huge bass sounds using split mode by setting osc balance and filter balance to 12 o'clock and selecting 2 waves of your choice in the same octave. Vary stereo width with unison spread, detune to taste and you have 2 independent oscillators panned left and right. And all this without even thinking about unison mode. It's fat and doesn't eat polyphonic margerine. The big, fat bummer for me is that for the bass sounds that I generally like to create and use in my music, I need the 24db slope. 2b. It would also be very useful to have that same option available for parallel mode. What I suggest is a single software switch in the edit menu which says: Split/Par 12db or 24db 3. Again split mode. The usefulness of this excellent mode is limited by the fact that if I wish to use the sub oscillator or noise source then it has to come from either the right or left output only. Which is not a lot of use in an actual mix situation. The sub oscillator especially tends to unbalance the mix. Why not adjust the stereo spread to pan them into the centre then? Well that would be just the same as using parallel mode. So what about this then: Putting the sub oscillator and white noise in the middle in other words, splitting both of these signals in half and outputting them thru each filter accordingly, keeping oscillators 1 and 2 going thru filters 1 and 2 as they are at present. Much more useful from my point of view. 4. Having the sub oscillator switchable to saw wave would be useful too.. 5. There is no number 5. There was, but it's gone. It'll be back. (like Arnie.) That's all for now. Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 12:05:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:02:02 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 0:08 Uhr +0200 on 13.05.1999 Aaron E Havill wrote: >True, true... still, when processing external audio (or running it without a sequencer to sync to) I've longed for more precise delay timing on several occassions. Can't the MIDI limitation of 128 steps be worked around with LSB & MSB? possibly it can, I hope Christoph is reading this and maybe he'll comment on it. I was just referring to the way it is now, I have no idea what needs to be done to improve it. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 12:24:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:17:41 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Re:FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:09 Uhr +0200 on 19.05.1999 Rick Reyes wrote: >I thought the Delays & LFOs would sync to the internal clock when no other sync source is present. Am I wrong? when they are synced, this is true. If now then you have to adjust the parameters in the 128 step MIDI increments. But the internal clock only ranges from 63-190 bpm, so if you are outside that range you're stuck again...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 19:46:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:44:09 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Input devices Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp SWEET MOTHER OF PEARL! I got this software last night ... http://www.harmony-central.com/~ftp/software/windows/midi/midijoys.zip ... HOLY S**T!!! Set up the horizontal axis for controller 41 (cutoff) and vertical axis for 43 (reso), dial up something big like RotterDAM, hit a chord and wang the joystick around (with button1 depressed, of course). It's tough to describe. If you've got a PC, a joystick, and a Virus TRY IT! l8r zs >Midi-Joystick: >There is a freeware tool for windows pc which generates MIDI code from joystick movement. The joystick is attached to the usual game port. With Cubase mixermaps (for example) you could use the generated MIDI code just to control mixer elements which then control your VIRUS. Think about resonance and cutoff both on the tip of one finger... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 20:46:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Making keys stick (or not) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:40:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Canine wrote... >press both transpose keys simultaneously. This will panic the virus. Duh, I completely missed that feature. thanks, I have to play live this weekend! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 21:34:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:31:57 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >I really want to do more than just simply flash the LEDs. The brightness (!) of the LEDs should show the character of the voice steal. Only the both LFO LEDs are capable of producing different brightnesses. This was actually the main part of the idea. ayyyy yaaaaaa! Maybe I'm a person of limited brainpower, but with the LEDs already flashing for input levels and/or LFO amount, putting a third item on these already taxed lights would be next to useless, imho. If a steal occurs and you hear it, you can fix it. If a steal occurs and you don't hear it, then it's not a problem. This is audio ... perception is everything. If you care about things you *can't* hear in a song, then you worry too much. A useful meter would be maybe some resettable text item (displayed in the LCD) that tells you the max voices used since the last reset. An asterisk or some other indicator to let you know a steal has occured may be useful as well. e.g.: +------------------+ |VOICE USAGE | | 11| <- no steal +------------------+ +------------------+ |VOICE USAGE | | *12| <- steal has occured +------------------+ A press of a value button could reset the VOICE USAGE back to zero ... -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 22:40:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: OT: Input devices Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:34:33 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Zack Steinkamp wrote... >I got this software last night ... >http://www.harmony-central.com/~ftp/software/windows/midi/midijoys.zip ... HOLY S**T!!! Again I have to mention http://www.midiworld.com/aureality and urge you to check out building blocks, which allows you to do this kind of this and a lot more interesting stuff too. You can do math on controller and note inputs in real time and it also includes 16-step sequwencers etc. It's described as a 'modular midi controller' and I couldn't agree more. Incredible piece of software. With a Virus hooked up you can create completely sick (=good) effects to warp your speakers, such as applying the same controller across differnt channels at once, affecting the next note with some of the parameters from the last note, and more. Weird, odd, but easy to learn and good. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 23:41:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:40:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Yes, that would be nice to see, but I understood that that is quite dificult to implement, while a 3rd led mode to choose from - voice steal mode - is the level of the AMP of the last stolen voice transferred to the LED. And imagine this: You hear voices being stolen, but you're not sure it's because of your crappy sequencer (PC?) or MIDI cables, or the Virus being in trouble. It's a nice 'debugging' tool I think. By the way, voice stealing occurs many times, but they're inaudible. (<60dB) Seeing a * of an inaudible note being stolen is not very usefull. The LED flashing at a level you can't see is better. Dimitri. > >A useful meter would be maybe some resettable text item (displayed in the LCD) that tells you the max voices used since the last reset. An asterisk or some other indicator to let you know a steal has occured may be useful as well. e.g.: > >+------------------+ >|VOICE USAGE | >| 11| <- no steal >+------------------+ > >+------------------+ >|VOICE USAGE | >| *12| <- steal has occured >+------------------+ > >A press of a value button could reset the VOICE USAGE back to zero ... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 00:24:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:23:48 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I am not sure but I think this means that the filter env. doesn't retrigger in poly mode. What do you (or anyone else) think? It certainly re-triggers in any of the mono modes. I think when you're running an arpeggio, the filter envelope is *always* retriggered because there's no legato. I don't quite understand what you're getting at because I haven't been able to reproduce your problem in any key mode. Post me a patch? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 03:06:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:01:01 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >I really want to do more than just simply flash the LEDs. The brightness (!) of the LEDs should show the character of the voice steal. In fast music the voice may be returned or another voice stolen before you can be sure what is the brightness of the LED anyway. If this is really important I suggest flashing one of the transpose LEDs or using a differnt number of flashes on the saturation LED for different situations. The reason I am going on about this is that voice stealing usually happens when you don't expect it. If sending the stealing message to the LFO light is an option, then I probably don't have it turned on first and then it is no help at all. And if I think I hear a steal then I have to dive into a menu and switch it on. Or if it flashes this way automatically maybe I get confused with the LFO or the input signal before I realise it is a voice steal. The LFOs flash all the time already. If you blink one of the other lights that is normally static then I will notice much faster and it will be a more useful feature. Also why try to put so much information into the flash, which may be impossible to understand quickly in a live situation? Why not have a CTRL or Edit screeen that shows which channels are playing notes, how many voices they are using and which are being stolen in real time, eg 1 24 B 0 d-dd-x f----- d means a note (d => music symbol) is playing on that channel right now. f means filter input. x means a voice was stolen (different codes for different conditions) - means nothing is playing on that channel Numbers are for how many voices the patch uses, B is hex-type B, i.e. 0123456789ABC for 0-12 voices. 0 voices is when you use filter input. So above would be what you se if a 12-voice unison patch (or maybe a vocoder) was playing on channel 6 when notes started on channels 1, 3 and 4. I split the 12 channels into 2 banks of 6 to make it easy to read, but there are 16 characters in the display so this will work on the Virus KB too. you could also add letter codes (like c for controller etc) and use this as some way to indicate the DSP load if you wanted to get 'interactive' :-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 04:28:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Version 2.51? Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:21:57 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Christoph, I thought I installed OS 2.51... and the new Assign destinations work great now, whereas there were bugs before... But my Virus still says 2.5 at startup. ? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 14 10:11:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Gear for sale - good prices. Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:08:29 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" How can he just sell all that?! It was definitely a yummy list... yum! >My buddy Cyb is selling his stuff. Sadly. > >But, for good prices. Check it out and let him know if you're interested: > > http://www.bioroid.com/gear.htm > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 01:11:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:30:50 +0200 From: John Machielsen Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: make sounds part2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From John Machielsen Hey again fellow Virus users, after i asked last time how to begin creating new sounds on my virus, i got enough replies to go and try twiddle some nasty sounds out of my little red box. But again, i have a question.... i'm looking after making some sounds that lie in the neighborhood of the Aphex Twin and Autechre sounds... those harsh digital timbres...or funky weird noises... as i'm not an experienced soundcreator at all, but willing to learn, could someone here tell me where to start ? i think some others will also benefit from your soundmaking lessons... I thank you in advance, John Machielsen (what i'd also like to learn is to get nice rave and clubish pads etc.. because all i made till now are weird non-usefull sounds..but i made them at night...when i wasnt really awake anymore) -- http://culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<< what do other juno users out there do to strengthen and build there juno >sounds??? >>> I have never owned a Juno but have played the 106 quite a bit and have always found that the oscillators have a distinct Juno sound that can not be got away from. This is partly due to the lack of parameters you have to modify the sound and also the limitation of a single oscillator per voice. Others may disagree but I just don't like that Juno sound. Steve. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 13 13:56:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: buddha@dial.pipex.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:55:03 +0000 Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >Hi Howard, >thanks for your response. >I just had another go prompted by your response and have discovered that I need >to have the patch in any of the four mono modes to get the effect that I was after. i.e automated variation on the decay timewhen using a fast arpeggiated sequence. I am not sure but I think this means that the filter env. doesn't retrigger in poly mode. What do you (or anyone else) think? It certainly re-triggers in any of the mono modes. > Might this be to do with whether the LFO is set to poly or mono. Also LFO keytrig might need to be set to off. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 05:26:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sat, 15 May 99 04:21:07 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz CHRISTOF KEMPER wrote : >>what if u could set a stepless quality of sound for each patch for the generating of the waves by degrading the samplerate and the bitrate independenty ? >>i mean,like there are some plugins (sonic decimator,or the mda-degrader..)? >>this could sound great (i tried it with just a saw,a pulse and sinus). if this could help to save cpu,maybe this parameter could allow even more voices than 12 (rack)? >>only a thought of me....:=) >>because this sometimes sounds VERY good (oizo is nr. 1 in media control charts >>,germany!!) and i do this via plugin all the time.... >> >>regards,greetings and respect from good old stuttgart, nico >> > >This is an idea that I thought about already. A little problem is that it will require some additional power to make this sample-rate conversion sound acceptable. As known from some samplers, a sample which is transposed down, produces some >noise at the high end, which can be nice for LoFi sounds, but not always. This effect can be eliminated only by a more expensive sample interpolation. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper so is there no way to do this by using the power the virus got already ? i`m not sooo deep in that programroutines : u say that the virus would need more power to create ore use a "seperate algorithm" that produces the osc`s with less bitrate or samplingrate ? (because my naive thoughts were that this would use less power - as an easy way to decrease voicestealth..... can we hope for a feature like that ? ;=) regards,greetings and respect from stuttgart, nico >-------------------------------------------------------------------------< >nico herz >no ! lowcut productions / mail: nolowcut@gmx.de >bessemerstr. 7 c / tel: 049 (0) 711 / 607 69 23 >70 435 stuttgart,germany / fax: 049 (0) 711 / 607 01 12 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 17:50:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:47:22 EDT Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell you as well? And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. Just my 2 cycles worth. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 18:25:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:33:43 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i agree totally with zon, deemed not needed my top 2 requests 1)analog sequencer mode 2) random patch generator weld Synthworld@aol.com wrote: >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell you as well? >And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. > >Just my 2 cycles worth. > >Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 18:58:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:55:17 EDT Subject: other requests To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/15/99 9:30:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: >my top 2 requests >1)analog sequencer mode >2) random patch generator >weld Yes!! Now, these - I would love to see! I agree with Weld on these! Anybody else? Zon (...on the planet Synthworld) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 19:40:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:38:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell you >as well? >And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. I couldn't agree with you more... I don't see the point either and certainly won't be looking at that indicator. But thats probably just me... now on with the music :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:09:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:08:12 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Synthworld@aol.com schrieb: > >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >In a message dated 5/15/99 9:30:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: > >>my top 2 requests >>1)analog sequencer mode >>2) random patch generator >>weld > >Yes!! Now, these - I would love to see! I agree with Weld on these! >Anybody else? > >Zon (...on the planet Synthworld) Hi ! For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? For live Jams ? Or in Studio use ? I donīt think so. I think the Virus user interface is not designed for such a mode. You have to step through the CTRL and EDIT- pages only to programm a simple sequencer track.This is not very funny and unconvenient. See the Waldorf Q.This maschine has an internal Sequencer.But, is this Sequencer easy to use like a "real" Sequencer ? Not at all. Be happy with the "SYNTHESIZER" Virus. Some more internal effects would be more useful in my opinion. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:28:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:25:35 EDT Subject: Re: other requests To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/15/99 11:14:24 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Groove303@t-online.de writes: >For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? Analog sequencers are considered to be an integral part of the vocabulary of early analog synthesizers and electronic music. Other virtual analog synthesizers have analog-type sequencers (Yamaha AN1x, Clavia Nord Modular, Waldorf Q, Quasimidi Polymorph) so why not the Virus? As far as it being inconvenient to implement - this simply means that a convenient solution to add it to the Virus has not yet been found. If it weren't for analog sequencers, I would not have been a synthesist. I just feel it would be a very useful addition to an already marvelous synthesizer. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:28:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:25:39 +0200 Subject: Re: other requests From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >In a message dated 5/15/99 9:30:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, weld@jumpontheweb.com writes: > >>my top 2 requests >>1)analog sequencer mode Would maybe be nice :-) I only still see problems coming up with this feature because of the timing problems that _will_ occur (see Arpeggiator). But I have this feature on the AN1x and I agree that it is a difference having sequences running out of the synth via an internal sequences. But the timing of the AN1X is so bad, that I have to record everything to harddisk and then cut the best parts out of it. If a sequencer is done, it only makes sense if you can also kind of a *sequence pool* from which you can root/edit all sequences to all patches. I wouldnīt like it, if a sequence can only be played with the patch you programmed it for. >>2) random patch generator >>weld This would sure be nice, but it can also be done with an Environment like Cacine allready did. Donīt know if it is complicated to program for the Virus. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:28:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:33:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From Synthworld@aol.com >> >>Personally, I don't really see a need for a voice consumption indicator. I mean, if you can hear voices being stolen, then you know you know you've reached or exceeded your polyphony limit. If your ears have told you this then why would you need your eyes to tell >you >>as well? >>And, if you can't hear it, then you are fine (polyphony wise) and you certainly don't need a visual indicator to tell you that. > >I couldn't agree with you more... >I don't see the point either and certainly won't be looking at that indicator. >But thats probably just me... As stated before there are situations where this would be a brilliant debugging tool! In a complex playback your ears wont tell you everything about any signal. And some things (like stolen voices) are maybe not audible but feelable! I still vote for this feature :-) Ray ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:38:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#europa.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:37:38 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick Of all the Virus wishlist features discussed thus far, I think that a "one-shot" sound trigger would be the most helpful. This doesn't have to be fancy--i.e., the only parameter I'd really care about adjusting is the Note value & duration of the trigger. All I want is to be able to lug around my Virus in my backpack, sans hardware sequencer, midi keyboard, whatever, and be able to program sounds no matter where I am. I'd also love to see a randomizer feature, which would be a blast when used in conjunction with an on-board sound trigger feature. And of course, it'd be awesome to have a sequencer of some type, even if something as wonderfully simple as that found on a Sequential Circuits Pro-One (48 steps of uniform duration). I don't particularly mind having to step through menu pages to program a sequencer track, but I can see where that'd be a buzzkill for many people. I don't care about a visual display of voice-stealing; I've got that feature on my K2000, and I never use it. I completely agree with the point that "your ear is the best judge" of voice stealing. I also don't care about more internal effects, as I primarily use outboard effects anyway. I'd rather see the Virus' DSP power applied elsewhere. Just my thoughts on the matter. Heck, maybe Access would consider open-sourcing the Virus firmware, and then the fun would *really* begin... in my dreams, only in my dreams. :-) :-) :-) -Marc Visnick marc@jli.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 20:34:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:39:20 +0200 Subject: Re: other requests From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >Some more internal effects would be more useful in my opinion. Come on: you get a brilliant sounding FX processor for $200 (like the Lexicon MPX 100). I donīt think it makes sense rap the Virus for some FX you can get out of a cheap FX processor or an audio plug in. Ray ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 21:04:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:02:18 +0200 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hans w. koch" i would much more prefer to see more voice possibilities as for e.g. ringmodulator for external signals, external signal + oscillator in the same voice, other fancys for the external (dedicated waveshaping), envelope-follower etc. virus is a great *synthesizer*, must not be an all-in-one-box. hwk Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? For live Jams ? Or in Studio use ? I donīt think so. I think the Virus user interface is not designed for such a mode. You have to step through the CTRL and EDIT- pages only to programm a simple sequencer track.This is not very funny and unconvenient. See the Waldorf Q.This maschine has an internal Sequencer.But, is this Sequencer >easy to use like a "real" Sequencer ? Not at all. Be happy with the "SYNTHESIZER" Virus. > >Some more internal effects would be more useful in my opinion. > >Stay Fresh > >Jens W. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 21:25:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: lukas@192.168.0.1 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:30:26 +1200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Lukas Svoboda Subject: Easter Eggs.... X-Server: VPOP3 V1.3.0a Unregistered Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lukas Svoboda Now according my records this was asked a long long long time ago by Jay, but has anyone discovered an easter egg in the virus? If you access guru's are listening, did you guys put something in somewhere? Curious I suppose, Lukas ___________________________________________________________________ Lukas Svoboda NZ Electronic Music - http://www.lucidworks.co.nz/ My Personal Page - http://www.lucidworks.co.nz/lukas/ The Ouroboros Pages - http://www.lucidworks.co.nz/ouroboros/ Email - lukas@lucidworks.co.nz ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 23:13:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:04:32 +0200 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Arpeggiator problem! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martijn Baan He guys, Ive got a serious problem, and I do not no where it comes from. When I want to send out my Arp. on the Virus it wont work. Ive tried just about everything (also the manual....). Normally my arpeggiator works great, but ofcourse i want to use it with 303 and JV-1080. The moment I push "send Arp.out" in the control menu, my arpeggiator gets stuck at one note..I tried to use chords, many notes, hold, midi only (in stead of midi + internal), midi soft thru. But.... Who can help me out over here??? Greetings from Martijn Baan (Mr. Bean) bean-inc@dds.nl >From Holland, with questions... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 15 23:14:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:05:31 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Feature Request: Velocity Sensitive Arpeggiator. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan I don't know if there is already a way I can do this or not, but I was just jamming with my Virus, and realized that this one track that I want to write would *GREATLY* benefit from being able to somehow map the arpeggiator clock speed to velocity sensitivity... In other words, the harder I hit the keys, the faster the arpeggiator plays. Then I thought, it'd be nice to be able to modulate the arpeggiator speed with an LFO too ... maybe have a min/max range setting for the LFO sweeps, which will determine arpeggiator speed. It may not seem very useful, but I'm putting it to the list that this is certainly something that I could use myself right now... musically, I have a use for it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 00:23:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sat, 15 May 99 23:22:19 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Raymund Beyer wrote : >As stated before there are situations where this would be a brilliant debugging tool! In a complex playback your ears wont tell you everything about any signal. And some things (like stolen voices) are maybe not audible but feelable! 100 agreed.it takes hours sometimes,when u feel that something in the mix suddenly is wrong and u just don`t get what that could be ,and it could help a lot to at least look at an indicator (or whatever) that tells u the current state. >I still vote for this feature :-) i`m with it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 01:54:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 01:52:45 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Synthworld@aol.com schrieb: > >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >In a message dated 5/15/99 11:14:24 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Groove303@t-online.de writes: > >>For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? > >Analog sequencers are considered to be an integral part of the vocabulary of early analog synthesizers and electronic music. Other virtual analog synthesizers have analog-type sequencers (Yamaha AN1x, Clavia Nord Modular, Waldorf Q, Quasimidi Polymorph) so why not the Virus? Yes ,youīre right.But in the early analog sequencer/synthesizer time there were no Computers or Midi.At this time a Sequencer was a must have.Now there are so many other great solutions.I really like analog style Sequencers,but I donīt think the Virus need one. >As far as it being inconvenient to implement - this simply means that a convenient solution to add it to the Virus has not yet been found. If it weren't for analog sequencers, I would not have been a synthesist. I just feel it would be a very useful addition to an already marvelous synthesizer. OK.Feel free.This list is open for all kinds of wishes.There are only some different thoughts about.It was not my aim to start a kind of mini-trouble here ! Stay Fresh Jens W. > >Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 01:54:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:55:45 -0500 Subject: Re: make sounds part2 From: "franklin" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "franklin" >But again, i have a question.... i'm looking after making some sounds that >lie in the neighborhood of the Aphex Twin and Autechre sounds... > >those harsh digital timbres...or funky weird noises... You're not the only one after those sounds... The Aphex Twin and Autechre tunes are mainly (if not 100%) composed of samples (as far as I've been told). I've managed many of those tones with the nord modular but am curious if any virus users have been successful. Anybody have any patches in this genre? - Franklin ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 05:26:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: make sounds part2 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:23:03 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" Using controlled modulation is very effective. Using the Matrix, LFOs, ENVs, etc. You can use the LFOs to modulate certain parameters like FM, and use the matrix to assign ENV control over given parameters of the LFO. Such as rate, depth, etc. LFOs are especially suited for creating great synth fx... Having the ability to modulate LFO rate is a new addition to the matrix. This can be loads of fun... Rick >lie in the neighborhood of the Aphex Twin and Autechre sounds... > >those harsh digital timbres...or funky weird noises... as i'm not an experienced soundcreator at all, but willing to learn, could someone >here tell me where to start ? > >i think some others will also benefit from your soundmaking lessons... > >I thank you in advance, > >John Machielsen > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 03:58:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:25:00 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 11:22 PM 5/15/99 -0000, you wrote: >100 agreed.it takes hours sometimes,when u feel that something in the mix suddenly is wrong and u just don`t get what that could be ,and it could help a lot to at least look at an indicator (or whatever) that tells u the current state. Having originally started this thread, I would have to say that I'm glad it's finally come back to pretty much what I was asking for in the first place. Although Raymund stated it much better above than I did in the original post :) >>I still vote for this feature :-) > >i`m with it. I know we're not supposed to have "me-too" posts, but: me too. Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 03:58:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:34:01 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: make sounds part2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam I'm not sure what an "Aphex Twin" patch might be (I have a bunch of his albums, but don't listen to them much), but yesterday I came up with a really strange, twitchy sound on my Virus. Can I post it to the list, or is that a no-no? At 07:55 PM 5/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >The Aphex Twin and Autechre tunes are mainly (if not 100%) composed of samples (as far as I've been told). I've managed many of those tones with the nord modular but am curious if any virus users have been successful. Anybody have any patches in this genre? Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 00:21:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: other requests Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:56:39 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi list, I have a Virus for the sound, with a separate keyboard and computer sequencer. The Virus sound is great; but my computer software will *always* be a better sequencer. Coding a primitive sequencer for the Virus will take time, effort, money and limited ROM space. I believe these would be better used expanding the Virus's sonic territory. For example, more and enhanced effects. There's been discussion of analog phasers, tape delays, and chorus. How about the saturation / distortion? The ability to filter the distortion signal independently eg without affecting Osc 1 & 2 signals? And distortion & filtering for the tape delay?? How about pitch shift and sample & hold for the delay... pitch shifting by micro-loops within delay buffer, and sample & hold triggered by a controller going above threshold... so could be held periodically by a synced LFO... Doesn't matter, in the slightest, if such extravagances eat voices :-) Well, that's what I'd like to see. Let's hear some other wil sounding suggestions. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 00:01:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:08:39 +0100 From: "S. W. Krupp" X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:other requests, wishes +++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "S. W. Krupp" Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? ...Not at all. >Be happy with the "SYNTHESIZER" Virus. I agree! Give all the Virus power to the effort of creating great sound! Raymund Beyer wrote: As stated before there are situations where this would be a brilliant debugging tool! In a complex playback your ears wont tell you everything about any signal. And some things (like stolen voices) are maybe not audible but feelable! I see the need. Maybe a menu in multi-mode could display the voice consumption... A one-shot trigger that could repeat itself would be handy. A one-shot trigger, and repeat time in the KeyMode menu! Then we don't need to re-press whatever button used for the trigger. Great for those boring nights in hotels or when visiting our parents-in-law! Also a feature where the osciliator-voices and the input-source could be filtered in the same patch would be nice! The noise in the Virus is ahem.... quite dull, so to be able to mix in some external radio noise or whatever would help some sounds! Unless you guys at Access gives us some new noises... The osc+input mix would be handy anyway, and I could not believe that it was not there when i read the manual and searched the menus. Eventually it came to me that it's just not there! Next, is it possible to get the filters to have portamento? I would like to use the filters to keyfollow slooooowly together with the oscillators. Would be great when the filters self-oscillates freely! A MUST!!! Also I would like to HAIL Access for their great work!! When you start developing a new product I hope you take ideas and wishes from this list concerning the features to be put into that new piece of equipment! all yours kRuPp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 23:44:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:17:25 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Arpeggiator problem! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 23:04 Uhr +0200 on 15.05.1999 Martijn Baan wrote: >He guys, > >Ive got a serious problem, and I do not no where it comes from. When I want to send out my Arp. on the Virus it wont work. Ive tried just about everything (also the manual....). Normally my arpeggiator works great, but ofcourse i want to use it with 303 and JV-1080. The moment I push "send Arp.out" in the control menu, my arpeggiator gets stuck at one note..I tried to use chords, many notes, hold, midi only (in stead of midi + internal), midi soft thru. But.... >Who can help me out over here??? To me this looks like a midi loop, is that possible? the Arp notes are being sent out and returned to the Virus? Other than that I am pretty clueless think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 23:44:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:22:45 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Feature Request: Velocity Sensitive Arpeggiator. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 23:05 Uhr +0200 on 15.05.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >In other words, the harder I hit the keys, the faster the arpeggiator plays. To me, making aftertouch the relevant controller would make more sense. I can't see a use for it right now, other than when playing without any other machines connected (with live musicians?). There is a very easy way to do this: make Clocktempo a possible destination for the "Assign" ModMatrix. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 23:34:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:34:20 EDT Subject: "analog" sequencer To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Hey everyone! Here is an "analog" sequencer that is very simple to use. It's called SEQ-303. Worked easily with my Virus. It is shareware, so it has a limited number of times it can run, but it's only about $35 if you want to register it. They have a couple other programs that sounded cool/useful too. Have fun. Techno Toys Products http://www.technotoys.com/products.htm ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 18:21:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:43:00 +0300 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: make sounds part2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen At 19:55 15.5.1999 -0500, you wrote: >You're not the only one after those sounds... > >The Aphex Twin and Autechre tunes are mainly (if not 100%) composed of samples (as far as I've been told). I think that kind of sounds are either sampled or, if from a synthesizer, heavily processed with everything (exiter, gate, compressor, flanger, reverb and so on...). So, IMO it is probably impossible to imitate them with the Virus and without external sound processing. Correct me if I'm wrong. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 16 23:38:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:37:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From WELD >i agree totally with zon, >deemed not needed >my top 2 requests >1)analog sequencer mode >2) random patch generator >weld I agree with Zon too (just in case votes count). my top 2: 1) fix the few 2.51 problems 2) when selecting programs via Value knob, update the display first. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 00:54:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:48:06 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Sun, 16 May 1999 21:56:39 +1200, "Thomas Whitmore" wrote: >I have a Virus for the sound, with a separate keyboard and computer sequencer. The Virus sound is great; but my computer software will *always* be a better sequencer. It might be a better _MIDI recorder_ but for producing sequences of notes the "old-fashioned" way, nothing beats a physical row of knobs and, of course, flashing lights. ;-) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 01:11:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 01:05:34 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Raymund Beyer Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Raymund Beyer Hi, I sometimes wonder about nobody is talking about the Controller Dump feature since 2.5! For Control Freaks like me (I mostly edit the Virus via Environment) its great to have this feature for editing sounds at thier actual setting in the Logic Environment. Well, my special personal wish: I would like to have the Controller Dump feature extended to the -name of the patch -to the Multi settings. The Virus just would have to send the Multi settings as sysex for each parameter like it does send controller data for the 16 Multi-Single buffers. I have noticed that the Virus is able to send the Multi-Single settings in sysex mode if both - the lower and the upper page control mode - are set to sysex. So why not also the multi settings? Is there no interest in this feature or did a lots of you just not understand what itīs good for (as I admit because of some people asking me this)? Regards Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 |_ Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 09:26:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe softroom@btinternet.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:16:51 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: softroom@btinternet.com web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 10:29:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 01:22:20 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" Yes please! I totally agree! Ringmod on external sounds, the ability to use external sounds for osc1 and a one-shot button to pre-listen your stuff. >i would much more prefer to see more voice possibilities as for e.g. ringmodulator for external signals, external signal + oscillator in the same >voice, other fancys for the external (dedicated waveshaping), envelope-follower etc. >virus is a great *synthesizer*, must not be an all-in-one-box. hwk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 11:19:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: winne.toe@wxs.nl To: , Subject: unsubscribe winne.toe@wxs.nl Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:40:34 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From winne.toe@wxs.nl unsubscribe winne.toe@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 11:19:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: winne.toe@wxs.nl To: , Subject: unsubscribe winne.toe@wxs.nl Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:40:34 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From winne.toe@wxs.nl unsubscribe winne.toe@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 11:23:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: AW: make sounds part2 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:18:31 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Boehm Thomas-Lars Hi Cam, I would be interested in your patches to, but I think you should post them to Canine so he can put them on his website (Canine: okay?). On the other side a .mid file with one patch shouldn't be that big to post it directly to the list (Jay: Is posting files allowed ?), as seen on the K5000 List. Greetings, TL-Bee >* From Cam > >I'm not sure what an "Aphex Twin" patch might be (I have a bunch of his albums, but don't listen to them much), but yesterday I came up with a really strange, twitchy sound on my Virus. Can I post it to the list, or is that a no-no? > >At 07:55 PM 5/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >>The Aphex Twin and Autechre tunes are mainly (if not 100%) composed of samples (as far as I've been told). I've managed many of those tones with the nord modular but am curious if any virus users have been successful. Anybody have any patches in this genre? > >Cam > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ _ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 13:38:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:36:18 +0200 From: Stefan Nee X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Major hangup - Need help Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stefan Nee Hello Christoph, I did not succeed with updating as far as I can tell (it didn't make any difference). So I suppose it must still be 1.53. However, the machine is still dead. Some flashing LED's but apart from that, nothing. No text on the screen and the machine does not transmit or receive MIDI. It is really strange. Have you had similar problems before, and more importantly, is there anything I can do to get it working again? I would really like this matter to be resolved asap. We are in the middle of a production and the V plays an important role (of course). Thanks in advance /Stefan1 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 10.05.99 14:59:37 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >>Dear Virusers & Access, >>Last night my virus completely freaked out. In the middle of a song it all of a sudden started doing the most horrifying and annoying sound (kinda like Jim Carrey in Dumb, Dumber). Since my little red friend didn't respond to anything, I restarted with the on/off button and it worked again.... for about 20 seconds, cause when I restarted the song it happened again. This time though, it didn't start again, even when switching the power on and off. I unplugged all cords but nothing happened. The display was lit, but there was no text and it didn't transmit any midi. I even tried to update the OS to 2.51 (I have 1.53 installed). It really appears to be completely wacked. Does anyone have any idea what has happened and what can be done to solve it. > >So did you succeed to update 2.51? I am sure you cannot produce an error on 2.51 that you can produce on 1.53. >Version 1.53 celebrates its first anniversary these days, it was followed by the 1.54 after less than two weeks. >Please update to version 2.51. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access music >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 15:33:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:31:37 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 15.05.99 19:33:03 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Would maybe be nice :-) I only still see problems coming up with this feature because of the timing problems that _will_ occur (see Arpeggiator). >> > >Do we have an arpeggiator timing problem??? > >Christoph > Never noticed timing problems with the arp. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 15:35:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:33:44 +0300 (EET DST) From: Janne Kaipainen To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: keyb split (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Janne Kaipainen Greetings all Sorry for bringing this up again, but has anyone gained any info (or would Access people have time to comment) on the possible keyboard split functions of the virus kb? Thanking you in advance, - janne kaipainen - jatka@cc.jyu.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 18:21:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:19:36 +0100 Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" unsubscribe peabreu@isa.utl.pt Paulo Abreu ----------------------------------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt Tel: 351-01-7966948 351-01-3638161 ext:335 Lisboa-Portugal ----------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 18:21:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:20:30 +0100 Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 18:22:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:26:49 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 11:02 AM 5/17/99 EDT, you wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com >We'll see what we can do. This should be a key combination or even more, to hit different pitches. Any ideas? How about a single note, but with an assignable scale and the ability to "play" the note up and down the scale with the value knob? Or would that be too much of a pain in the ass? I think if the feature was mainly intended for just trying out patches without a keyboard, that would be a useful way to implement it. Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 18:36:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:35:06 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf christoph kemper wrote: >They will go: The Virus >has a nice sound engine, but forget about what they call 'step-sequencer'. if THATs the only problem you have with giving us this long awaited absolutely crucial addition to our beloved already oh so close to perfect virus, heres the solution: simply dont call it 'step-sequencer'. call it "programmable arpeggiator" or something, and everyone will be happy. im glad i could help you on that one, so that now you can implement this wonderful little feature in the next os version. ;) mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 19:24:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: make sounds part2 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:21:46 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Mara Salminen > >I think that kind of sounds are either sampled or, if from a synthesizer, heavily processed with everything (exiter, gate, compressor, flanger, reverb and so on...). So, IMO it is probably impossible to imitate them with the Virus and without external sound processing. Correct me if I'm wrong. So it would be nice to have some sexy fxs in it... Can I ask one more time? :-) A good sounding analog phaser? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 16:38:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:05:11 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: keyb split (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 15:33 Uhr +0200 on 17.05.1999 Janne Kaipainen wrote: >Sorry for bringing this up again, but has anyone gained any info (or would Access people have time to comment) on the possible keyboard split functions of the virus kb? If you have a Virus, you can check out the split function right now: make a multi sound and split the different Multiparts. That#s the way (as far as I understood it) the kb will do it as well. Only the keyboard will be built in... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 22:26:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:20:35 EDT Subject: Re: other requests To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/17/99 9:43:05 AM US Mountain Standard Time, michael.wolf@rz.hu-berlin.de writes: >simply dont call it 'step-sequencer'. call it "programmable arpeggiator" or >something, and everyone will be happy. Wrong. A programmable arpeggiator is not an analog-type step-sequencer. But, I am already happy with the Virus. I would just be happier if it ALSO had a step-sequencer. A programmable arpeggiator would not make me as happy, but...HEY!...I'll take one if you want to throw one in there :-) Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 23:04:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:01:25 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: > >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 16.05.99 23:27:37 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>I have a Virus for the sound, with a separate keyboard and computer sequencer. The Virus sound is great; but my computer software will *always* be a better sequencer. >> >>Coding a primitive sequencer for the Virus will take time, effort, money >and >>limited ROM space. I believe these would be better used expanding the Virus's sonic territory. >> > >Yes, but there is maybe one more important problem, that you might not see: If we would implement a stepsequencer on the preexisting user interface, the handling will be quite unsexy. You might not care about this, as this will be a nice addition to your Virus, that you have bought without this feature. But new customers will be disappointed about this. They will go: The Virus has a nice sound engine, but forget about what they call 'step-sequencer'. > Yes , thatīs exactly my thought about that step-sequencer thing. Stay tuned Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 23:05:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:01:50 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "Erik van 't Woud" Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Erik van 't Woud" At 11:02 17-5-99 -0400, you wrote: >>A one-shot trigger that could repeat itself would be handy. A one-shot trigger, and repeat time in the KeyMode menu! Then we don't need to >re-press >>whatever button used for the trigger. Great for those boring nights in hotels >>or when visiting our parents-in-law! > >We'll see what we can do. This should be a key combination or even more, to hit different pitches. Any ideas? Maybe a key-combination that you can use to trigger (and hold) the arpeggiator, so you can program patches while the arp is running to hear your changes in a running sequence (important to see what delays are doing to a sequence; for example). Bye, Erik. ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- Erik van 't Woud erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 17 23:09:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:06:00 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "Erik van 't Woud" Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Erik van 't Woud" At 18:35 17-5-99 +0200, you wrote: >* From michael wolf > >christoph kemper wrote: > >>They will go: The Virus >>has a nice sound engine, but forget about what they call 'step-sequencer'. > >if THATs the only problem you have with giving us this long awaited absolutely crucial addition to our beloved already oh so close to perfect virus, heres the solution: > >simply dont call it 'step-sequencer'. call it "programmable arpeggiator" or something, and everyone will be happy. BINGO! I thought about a solution... It's not 100% the same as a step-sequencer, but you can achieve the same results. Maybe call it "programmable arpeggiator", but give it a switch between arp and seq-mode...? Would be pretty cool, but I really cannot think how to implement this. Good I'm only the happy user (brand new Virus owner (Hi Frank!) and not one of the designers ;-0 >im glad i could help you on that one, so that now you can implement this wonderful little feature in the next os version. ;) ;=) Bye, Erik. ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- Erik van 't Woud erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 00:11:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:50:58 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: AW: make sounds part2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >On the other side a .mid file with one patch shouldn't be that big to post it directly to the list (Jay: Is posting files allowed ?), as seen on the K5000 List. > No, please do not post binaries to the list. You can use the TekLab ftp site to exchange files. Simply .zip 'em up, include a .txt file describing what it is, and upload to here: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 00:12:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:52:58 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Yes, but there is maybe one more important problem, that you might not see: If we would implement a stepsequencer on the preexisting user interface, the handling will be quite unsexy. You might not care about this, as this will be a nice addition to your Virus, that you have bought without this feature. But new customers will be disappointed about this. They will go: The Virus has a nice sound engine, but forget about what they call 'step-sequencer'. Well, just don't market the feature as a foremost feature - market it as an *additional* feature that was added for scratchpad purposes... I think it'd be a very handy feature myself, but then again I think that any extra feature I can get for pretty much free is a very handy feature! Maybe you should make a version of the OS that has this feature and sell it to only those that want it for a reasonable fee? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 00:45:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:53:56 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD or maybee a seperate box that kicks everyones (MAM, MAQ 16/3, etc.) ass for nice price????? weld Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >>Yes, but there is maybe one more important problem, that you might not see: If we would implement a stepsequencer on the preexisting user interface, the handling will be quite unsexy. You might not care about this, as this will be a nice addition to your Virus, that you have bought without this feature. But new customers will be disappointed about this. They will go: The Virus has a nice sound engine, but forget about what they call 'step-sequencer'. > >Well, just don't market the feature as a foremost feature - market it as an *additional* feature that was added for scratchpad purposes... > >I think it'd be a very handy feature myself, but then again I think that any extra feature I can get for pretty much free is a very handy feature! > >Maybe you should make a version of the OS that has this feature and sell it to only those that want it for a reasonable fee? > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 01:07:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:03:58 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests [REALLY!] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp I would like to see an addition to the arpeggiator whereas you may select from a wide variety of musical styles (Autechre to Yanni) and the Virus somehow creates an composition (using all 12 voices and maybe some un-indicated note-stealing) that would be indistinguishable from the selected artists' work, yet completely original and copyright-free. Also, a menu item that magically (I'm no programmer!) gives the user high doses of creative inspiration and musical know-how would prove to be useful in certain situations. A friend told me that DSP chips are very flexible, so these two items must not be much to ask! Thanks! zs ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 01:24:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:05:06 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: other requests [REALLY!] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 04:03 PM 5/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp I would like to see an addition to the arpeggiator whereas you may select from a wide variety of musical styles (Autechre to Yanni) and the Virus somehow creates an composition (using all 12 voices and maybe some un-indicated note-stealing) that would be indistinguishable from the selected artists' work, yet completely original and copyright-free. Also, a menu item that magically (I'm no programmer!) gives the user high doses of creative inspiration and musical know-how would prove to be useful in certain situations. >A friend told me that DSP chips are very flexible, so these two items must not be much to ask! Heh heh! I want the Virus to have a built-in Pong type game (Easter Egg) where you can use the knobs to control your paddles, and the LCD display turns into the playing field... I *really* need that feature. Please add it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 01:18:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:13:04 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >You talking about fast music. In such a situation your display idea will change its values so fast, that you will get no information from it, that you can use. If e.g. a 16th hihat sound will steal notes, this will happen 16 times a bar, and your display will give you new information in values (!) in a 16th rhythm. This is crazy. And I have to enter this display by EDIT or CTRL, anyway. Or did I get something wrong? Yes, you did - I was thinking that you could go into the ctrl/edit screen when you already knew there was voice stealing going on, and replay the MIDI to watch what is actually getting stolen (although ususally you can hear it). But I did not make this clear. The idea of an LCD voice status display is a luxury, but not necessary. >Furthermore, as I already mentioned, when another LED exept the LFO LEDs are used to indicate a note steal, the brightness is always the same. But why does this matter? If the saturation LED starts flashing, I will know something is wrong even though the brightness is constant. Usually this LED never flashes, unless I build some crazy sysex string to turn distortion on and off rapidly (which is easier to do by adjusting the osc volume knob). The flashing is information by itself, if that LED normally stays constant. You don't need varying brightness. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 01:18:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:13:06 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Things I'd like to see (which are moer important than voice stealing indicator): * 8 and 16 bar LFO sweeps - I am with Bill on the usefulness of these * Being able to change OSC1 pitch - maybe a 'shift' key while turning OSC2 pitch? I could just assign a definable for this but it would be very handy. * Clock sync on chorus/flange and delay LFOs Also, what is the exact speed limit of the LFOs? I want a way to modulate a PWM square wave with an LFO of exactly half the speed, to produce a wave like this: _ | | ___| |___ ___ | | |_| This wave sounds 1 octave lower than a normal square wave with the same period, which allows for an interesting illusion when you add spectral informaion too. Maybe I am just not understanding something in the Virus? I tried FMing Osc2 with Osc1 as a square wave an octave lower, but it didn't seem right. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 01:18:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:13:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote.. >But new customers will be disappointed about this. They will go: The Virus has a nice sound engine, but forget about what they call 'step-sequencer'. I agree. My feeling is that if you want an analogue sequencer, go buy one. I could learn to use one if it was in the Virus of course, but I would prefer to use a Quasimidi 309 or an MC-505 for this kind of thing. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 01:18:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests, wishes +++ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:13:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... [One Shot button] >We'll see what we can do. This should be a key combination or even more, to hit different pitches. Any ideas? How about both data buttons together? Maybe a little confusing, but using both transpose butons together works well as a panic button, now that I know about this :-) >What the hell is so attractive in filtering the oscillators and an external signal by the same filter and vca-settings?? It sounds cool :-) Seriously, sometimes I send multiple patches through aux sends to one patch so that I can filter them all together and make a weird sound just before a break or a new lead. Even cooler would be somebody's idea about using an external signal to replace OSC1 or 2, so you could FM it with the other oscillator, but I guess that is more difficult. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 02:00:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ceej@spies.com (C J Silverio) Subject: Re: other requests To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ceej@spies.com (C J Silverio) | * From "Anig Browl" | | * 8 and 16 bar LFO sweeps - I am with Bill on the usefulness of these | * Clock sync on chorus/flange and delay LFOs I'd like to second these. Long sweep times can be really handy. I often find myself going for that effect with controller data. And clock-syncing for just about all time-based parameters can be great. I see no need for voice-stealing indicators, built-in sequencers, or other things that my computer-based sequencer can handle. I wouldn't mind a single note audition trigger, like the one on the Novation Drumstation. I usually have to make little sequencer loops to do just that when I'm editing patches. -- C J Silverio ceej@spies.com Napping till the millenium, whether that's two years away or one. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 01:58:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:07:12 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com, jay@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests [REALLY!] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD hey jay thius is useless!! besides my k2500-r already has a pong mode...really!!!! : ) weld Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >At 04:03 PM 5/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >>* From Zack Steinkamp I would like to see an addition to the arpeggiator whereas you may select from a wide variety of musical styles (Autechre to Yanni) and the Virus somehow creates an composition (using all 12 voices and maybe some un-indicated note-stealing) that would be indistinguishable from the selected artists' work, yet completely original and copyright-free. Also, a menu item that magically (I'm no programmer!) gives the user high doses of creative inspiration and musical know-how would prove to be useful in certain situations. >>A friend told me that DSP chips are very flexible, so these two items must not be much to ask! > >Heh heh! > >I want the Virus to have a built-in Pong type game (Easter Egg) where you can use the knobs to control your paddles, and the LCD display turns into the playing field... > >I *really* need that feature. Please add it. > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com >TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 03:30:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: other requests Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:25:23 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Erik, list people, >Maybe call it "programmable arpeggiator", but give it a switch between arp and seq-mode...? >Would be pretty cool, but I really cannot think how to implement this. Good I'm only the happy user (brand new Virus owner (Hi Frank!) and not one of the designers ;-0 If you can't figure how to implement it, it probably can't be done well. All the ideas I have heard are ugly & awkward. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 03:32:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:29:50 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: make sounds part2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM I would like to hear the patch, "and I am unanimous in that." DTM. Cam wrote: >* From Cam > >...yesterday I came up with a >really strange, twitchy sound on my Virus. Can I post it to the list, or is that a no-no? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 03:54:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:51:45 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM > >>A one-shot trigger that could repeat itself would be handy. A one-shot trigger, and repeat time in the KeyMode menu! Then we don't need to >re-press >>whatever button used for the trigger. Great for those boring nights in hotels >>or when visiting our parents-in-law! > >We'll see what we can do. This should be a key combination or even more, to hit different pitches. Any ideas? Hit both SYNC and FILT ENV MOD buttons at the same time to get C4, the pitch can be changed by turning the DEFINABLE 1 and 2 knobs (a secondary function) to control the pitches of oscillator 1 and 2 respectively. DTM. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 04:25:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "terminal bliss" To: Subject: Re: other requests [REALLY!] Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:31:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "terminal bliss" >* From Jay Vaughan >I want the Virus to have a built-in Pong type game (Easter Egg) where you can use the knobs to control your paddles, and the LCD display turns into the playing field... > >I *really* need that feature. Please add it. heh. too late, kurzweils already have that feature! heh. imagine my surprise when i found out my favorite synth doubled as pong. (the virus is my second favorite...) daniel cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 04:41:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:45:00 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: make sounds part2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 06:29 PM 5/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >I would like to hear the patch, "and I am unanimous in that." Hi all. For everybody who would like to hear my magnificent, stupendous, antidisestablishmentarian patch, it can be found at http://members.xoom.xom/camwid/Primeval.zip The file is about 800 bytes. Hope that doesn't eat up too many of your internet hours :) Cam ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 09:42:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:40:58 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ for OS 3 & 4 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Anig, you bring up a very good point: >Even cooler would be somebody's idea about using an external signal to replace OSC1 or 2, so you could FM it with the other oscillator, but I guess that is more difficult. As some of you may know, FM between OSC1 & OSC2 is done with OSC1 being a triangle wave. --snip [from the manual] FM AMOUNT >Controls the frequency modulation intensity of the second oscillator by the first. Depending on the selected FM AMOUNT and the interval between the oscillators, the frequency modulation generates everything from slightly to radically enriched spectra. The modulation waveshape of the first oscillator is - regardless of the selected waveshape - always a triangle. --snip What about letting the user decide which waveform to use for OSC1 ? As we already have a lot of waves, is it possible to use them ? Besides that: 2. No need for a voice stealing indicator. (My very own personal opinion) 3. No step seq. As Christoph already noted: unsexy. The arp is ok. I'd better go for an external seq. Maybe extend the arp with some patterns. 4. My favourite wish: Ring modulator and split mode. ring in front of the filter. --snip [CKe9644719@aol.com wrote:] >I mentioned in an earlier mail, that the ring modulator does not work in combination with the split mode. The reasons: The oscillator algorithm is highly optimized. The split mode is an additional optimized program that is switched to the oscillators. So is the ring modulator. Split mode together with ring mod requires a totally new additional program that combines both features, which is very complicated, because it must not exceed a specific calculation power. This is simply not done yet. --snip 5. coloured noise. A wish for OS 4...(I know, I'm always complaining) 6. Other filter characteristics (selectable). (Christoph already replied to this as well...) Don't replace the existing filter, but give us a selection. I would never (well almost never..) mind of loosing some voices. And here an unserious wish ... Implement Pong and add an interface to MIDI. Let the virus play against the K2500. A nice little game, while the computer boots again.... regards -- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 11:27:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:25:12 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ for OS 3 & 4 WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Lars Herrlein schreef: >4. My favourite wish: Ring modulator and split mode. >ring in front of the filter. Ehmmmmm.... download OS 2.5 or higher, wander throiug the EDIT menu, and you will find you ringmodulator!!! And its on the right place! Have fun, Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 12:39:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:38:27 +0200 From: Lars Herrlein Organization: COMPUTEC GmbH Software X-Accept-Language: de,de-AT,de-DE,de-CH,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ for OS 3 & 4 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Lars Herrlein Hello Dimitri, dimi@dds.nl wrote: > >* From dimi@dds.nl > >Lars Herrlein schreef: >>4. My favourite wish: Ring modulator and split mode. >>ring in front of the filter. >Ehmmmmm.... download OS 2.5 or higher, wander throiug the EDIT menu, and you will find you ringmodulator!!! And its on the right place! With "ring in front of the filter" I meant the position in the signal flow, not in the menu. Here is the original message from me, posted Thu, 06 May 1999 11:22:42 +0200 -----snip Hello y'all, now that I successfully downloaded and installed the 2.51, one question still remains unanswered. I created a patch with filter routing set to split. When I only set the ringmodulator to a value != 0 and then back to 0, setting Sub Osc = 0, Noise = 0 and Osc Vol=-63 (-64?) no fx send at all, in some cases still the same sound comes out of the V. I had this already in the 2.50. Did I miss something? How is the ringmod routed ? Does it bypass the filter in split mode? Is it a feature or a flaw? regards ---- Lars -------snip Christophs replied to that (posted Thu, 6 May 1999 04:37:57 EDT) ------snip I mentioned in an earlier mail, that the ring modulator does not work in combination with the split mode. The reasons: The oscillator algorithm is highly optimized. The split mode is an additional optimized program that is switched to the oscillators. So is the ring modulator. Split mode together with ring mod requires a totally new additional program that combines both features, which is very complicated, because it must not exceed a specific calculation power. This is simply not done yet. Sorry Christoph Kemper access music ------snip > >Have fun, Yes! > >Dimitri. If you have further questions, please contact me. regards -- Lars ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 11:47:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:51:15 +0100 From: ANA3STH To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe anaesth.voph@wanadoo.fr Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ANA3STH unsubscribe anaesth.voph@wanadoo.fr -- PLEASE !!! I found no way to unsubscribe otherwise by this list ! _______________________________________________________________ S.ROLLAND anaesth@wanadoo.fr ANA3STh is an elektro.industrial.project from Paris ANA3STh HOMEPAGE: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/anaesth/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 10:57:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:13:31 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com >We'll see what we can do. This should be a key combination or even more, to hit different pitches. Any ideas? No-frills method: A system parameter "TranspPlays" = off or on, to send a C whenever Transpose is changed. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 16:53:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: canine@muenster.de, access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:01:18 +0000 Subject: Re: Feature Request: Velocity Sensitive Arpeggiator. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 23:05 Uhr +0200 on 15.05.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >>In other words, the harder I hit the keys, the faster the arpeggiator plays. > >To me, making aftertouch the relevant controller would make more sense. I can't see a use for it right now, other than when playing without any other machines connected (with live musicians?). > >There is a very easy way to do this: make Clocktempo a possible destination for the "Assign" ModMatrix. > > But clock tempo has a global effect, right? I've mentioned this before but I would really like to be able to have an individual parts arpeggiator speed be free running (and modulatable if you like!) in relation to clock tempo to allow arpeggios who's speed is unrelated to the tempo of the music and any other arpegios that may be running. This may sound crazy but I have achieved some great effects running the arp on my Korg polysix unsynced over other instruments - free and spacey - yum yum:) Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 17:39:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:37:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill No offense, but it's NOT all about MIDI Clock sync. I dcertainly use this when I'm running the Virus off of a sequencer, but for me its all about LIVE music, and when using the virus without a sequencer it is irritating to be limited to 127 delay times. In a related note: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A DEVICE THAT CAN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSLATE AN AUDIO SIGNAL INTO MIDI CLOCK? I've seen one or two that claim they can do it, but I wondered if any body had used one and found it effective. >* From Zack Steinkamp > >>distortion, a phaser, some other goodies get added. My only effects gripe-- if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? > >yo ... it's all about MIDI Clock sync ... > >toss out your BPM/ms conversion tables and your HP scientific calculator and get your sequencer sending Midi Clock ... this is where things are so nnnnice and easy! > >Tell Delay that you want a cycle every 3/64, 1/4, 3/8, 2/3, 2/1, etc. of a whole note and BAM it's perfect... change the tempo, and the Virus stays synced. What could be better? > >-zs >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 17:47:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:44:23 EDT Subject: weirdness To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com Hi All, I wanted to know if anybody else has run into this problem. On my Virus, (2.51 - but it also did this before I upgraded) I can't change patches from the front panel while it is being played by my sequencer (Mac G3 - StudioVisionPro - Studio 4). It will let me change patches a couple of times and then it won't let me select patches from it's front panel until I stop the sequencer. Then, it will let me select new patches just as it should. Also, I am in Single mode and I have no MIDI feedback loops occurring and this happens whether I am sending it MIDI clock/sync or not. Anybody else run into this? Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 17:49:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:46:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill I would love to see more processing power available for external audio myself. Anyone else? MAybe some setups where one signal source was from the external in(s), and one was selectable from the Virus patches, set up to ring modulate or FM each other. And of course there's the vocoder.... On Sat, 15 May 1999, hans w. koch wrote: >* From "hans w. koch" > >i would much more prefer to see more voice possibilities as for e.g. ringmodulator for external signals, external signal + oscillator in the same voice, other fancys for the external (dedicated waveshaping), envelope-follower etc. >virus is a great *synthesizer*, must not be an all-in-one-box. hwk > >Jens Wegerhoff wrote: > >>For what do we need an analog sequencer mode ? For live Jams ? Or in Studio use ? I donĨt think so. I think the Virus user interface is not designed for such a mode. You have to step through the CTRL and EDIT- pages only to programm a simple sequencer track.This is not very funny and unconvenient. See the Waldorf Q.This maschine has an internal Sequencer.But, is this Sequencer >>easy to use like a "real" Sequencer ? Not at all. Be happy with the "SYNTHESIZER" Virus. >> >>Some more internal effects would be more useful in my opinion. >> >>Stay Fresh >> >>Jens W. >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 18:07:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:05:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill >>(blah blah blah)... distortion, a phaser, some other goodies get added. My only effects >>gripe-- if the delay is given to you down to tenths of milliseconds, why does it have to jump by five or six ms with each click of the value keys? Some one on the list responded to me when I asked about this a while back, saying that the jumps were "perfectly acceptable for all musical applications" which is simply not true. > > >What are the applications, where you need a higher resolution than this? > >Ciao >Christoph > Anytime you're using the Virus in a live setting (without a sequencer), the delay time issue pops up, for me anyway. Whether it's processing external audio, or simply playing from a controller keyboard, I have been frustrated with the delay timing. The power is there-- when syncing to MIDI the resolution seems infinitely variable. But If I'm trying to match the delay time to a live drummer, it requires fairly precise control, nott "close enough." So, what's the response to my suggestion that a greater resolution could be achieved through using LSB and MSB? Is this the type of thing that could feasibly be added in an O.S. Update? ______________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 18:42:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Brian Birge" To: Subject: virus keyboard Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:36:37 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Brian Birge" Sorry if this has been covered before but I just subscribed and I couldn't find any archives. Is the keyboard version out in the US yet? I've called several dealers and they don't know what the hell I'm talking about when I ask for it. If its not out yet, is there a finalized ship date? I don't have a virus but I think I'm going to get the keyboard as it seems the nicest out of all the VA synths. Thanks! - Brian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 17:37:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Janne Kaipainen" Organization: jyu To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:38:57 +0200 Subject: Re: keyb split (again) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Janne Kaipainen" >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" If you have a Virus, you can check out the split function right now: make a multi sound and split the different Multiparts. That#s the way (as far as I understood it) the kb will do it as well. Only the keyboard will be built in... I don't have one yet (though I just ordered the V kb), and didn't realize the module version had split possibilities already.. Sorry everybody and thanks for corrections. All the best, - janne kaipainen - jatka@cc.jyu.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 18:47:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:47:16 +0200 From: Jim Achen To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Another Small One... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim Achen It's probably been asked before...but here goes Is it possible to make an indication on the display whether a sound has been edited or not...especially in the multisingle mode. Thanks Jim Achen "Be Yourself in Your Own Ways, Live Your Life In Your Own Pace." ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 19:14:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:08:37 EDT Subject: Re: FX news from access?-AUDIO/MIDI CLOCK To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com In a message dated 5/18/99 10:47:19 AM Central Daylight Time, aeh207@is8.nyu.edu writes: <<........In a related note: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A DEVICE THAT CAN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSLATE AN AUDIO SIGNAL INTO MIDI CLOCK? I've seen one or two that claim they can do it, but I wondered if any body had used one and found it effective. >> The MPC3000 will sync to an audio click, if that's what you mean. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 17:25:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: other requests Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:22:19 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" I agree, the voice-stealing indicator is somewhat useless to me, and the built-in sequuencer I can live without. I would much prefer expansion of the synth engine. Like a third osc, or more control over the sub-osc. More filters, etc... Rick > >I see no need for voice-stealing indicators, built-in sequencers, or other things that my computer-based sequencer can handle. I wouldn't mind a single note audition trigger, like the one on the Novation Drumstation. I usually have to make little sequencer loops to do just that when I'm editing patches. > >-- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 19:47:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Audio/Midi Clock Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:48:36 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE >In a related note: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF >A DEVICE THAT CAN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSLATE AN AUDIO SIGNAL INTO MIDI CLOCK? Doesn't that Voyager Beat Extractor do that nicely? I've heard this works well from reviews in SOS.... http://www.redsound.com/redsound/voyager/eu/ They also have the Federation BPM FX - tempo based effects processors that sync to audio. On a retro tip - Garfield Electronics had a few boxes that did the trick but mostly for studio applications. The Redsound boxes seem to be for live applications. Good Luck! Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 20:32:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:23:30 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: To Access: Tech Support in USA? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan This is mostly directed at the guys at Access. I often get phone calls here at TekLab from people wanting help with their Virus. I think they make the assumption that TekLab is a full service technical support organization, and figure that their problems should be sent our way. For the most part I don't mind at least trying to help these people, if I can (and I'm not too busy). But we can't do it for free, so it's better to send them to the US tech support rep instead. Trouble is, I don't have that persons details. Can you guys tell me where I should refer these callers in the future? This message was prompted by a phone call this morning from someone needing help with their Virus ... they will probably end up on this list shortly and ask their question instead. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 20:29:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:27:24 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp sorry ... I forget sometimes that people still *perform* music... anyhow, you could still have your fine resolution if you tell the delay/LFO/whatever to sync to clock (hear me out) then use one of the definable knobs to change the tempo. So now you've got granularity down to 1BPM (and less even because of the weird sync settings [e.g. 3/64] the Virus provides). That should be fine enough for performing (although I guess you could dream of some situations when you would want that 1mS granularity some other boxes give). If I could recognize differences of less than 1BPM while playing, I think that would be grounds for some Guinness record (or at least a pint). -zs >No offense, but it's NOT all about MIDI Clock sync. I dcertainly use this when I'm running the Virus off of a sequencer, but for me its all about LIVE music, and when using the virus without a sequencer it is irritating to be limited to 127 delay times. In a related note: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A DEVICE THAT CAN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSLATE AN AUDIO SIGNAL INTO MIDI CLOCK? I've seen one or two that claim they can do it, but I wondered if any body had used one and found it effective. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 20:31:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:29:50 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Another Small One... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp You got it! I noticed mine doing that too ... I first noticed after the upgrade to 2.5 -- I'm not sure if it was like that previously. zs >I thought it did. I do not have access to my virus, but I think the bank letter turns lower case. (i.e. A = a). Can anyone confirm this? > >Rick > >>* From Jim Achen >> >>It's probably been asked before...but here goes >> >>Is it possible to make an indication on the display whether a sound has been edited or not...especially in the multisingle mode. >> >>Thanks >> >>Jim Achen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 21:49:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Stretto11@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:46:15 EDT Subject: problem with my virus To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stretto11@aol.com Hello everyone, Maybe someone can help me out here. Yesterday I opened a song in Cubase which had a couple Virus tracks in it. When I played the song, I couldn't hear anything coming out of my Virus, but noticed that it was receiving MIDI messages. So I tried playing a couple keys on my controller and still couldn't hear anything. I then selected a different patch on the Virus, and only then could I hear my Virus. However, when I pressed "play" again on my sequencer there was nothing but silence. Again I selected a different patch, and scrolled through all the Banks and sounds and could hear everything fine. I tried to record a new part in Cubase but right when I hit the record button the Virus fell silent again. I then raised the volume on my mixer all the way and started turning all the knobs on the Virus and could BARELY hear the filters at work. Once again, I'm able to hear my Virus ONLY when I scroll through all the sounds, and then when I either record enable a track or play a track in Cubase, there is nothing but silence. All my other MIDI gear are working just fine. I'm running Cubase VST 4.0 on a Mac, and using the Midi Timepiece AV. I tried calling Steinberg and Mark of the Unicorn but they think it's a problem with the Virus. Can someone help me out? Thanks, Bobby ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 19:51:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Another Small One... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:49:12 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" I thought it did. I do not have access to my virus, but I think the bank letter turns lower case. (i.e. A = a). Can anyone confirm this? Rick >* From Jim Achen > >It's probably been asked before...but here goes > >Is it possible to make an indication on the display whether a sound has been edited or not...especially in the multisingle mode. > >Thanks > >Jim Achen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 22:19:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: problem with my virus Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:20:05 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Stretto wrote: >Maybe someone can help me out here. Yesterday I opened a song in Cubase which had a couple Virus tracks in it. When I played the song, I couldn't hear anything coming out of my Virus, but noticed that it was receiving MIDI >messages. My best guess is that one of the Virus tracks has a Controller 7 = 0 command in it - cutting the volume down. If, like me, you have used Controller 7 to do "chopping" of a sound - to simulate a gate - sometimes some controller messages stick around to annoy you later. I can't imagine that either Cubase or MOTU are to blame. Try creating a new track, it'll probably work. You may need to "hunt" down the errant controller message in your sequence. I know from experience that the best thing to to going forward is to record all tracks "straight", and overdub all controller data on a separate track. Makes it easier to troubleshoot stuff like that. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 22:43:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:23:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Step-seq. +++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther Hey list! For those of you who want a stepsequencer: use the arpeggiator-style 'AsPlayed', press the Sustain-Pedal and play the series of notes you want to hear. Of course, there's no changing of note-lengths, but if you really want this - get an analog sequencer. New analog sequencers use quite a lot of DSP-power (I think), and if you want to buy one I guess you'd have to spend half of the price for a Virus. So keep cool and live with what you've got (which is so much already - you REALLY shouldn't complain). And I'd like to have a Virus in my rack, not one of those workstation cripples! But there's something you ACCESSers could change: when I activate the arpeggiator's HOLD parameter it holds just the keys I pressed together. But if I want to use the arpeggiator as 'step sequencer' it would be great if all the keys I touched while my sustain pedal was pressed were held. Now I have to press the sustain pedal all of the time... And what I'd like to see in a future update would be the possibility to change the note-length of the arpeggiator. Arpeggii sound so dry because there's only one voice playing each time. And sometimes I'd like to switch between 'staccato' and 'legato'-style of an arpeggio. Would be great, Christoph! By the way, something I'm still looking for are good drawbar sounds. Would it be possible to exchange the oscillators against 'virtual drawbars' (a special Organ Mode), but to still use the filters? The oscillators can play some organ-like spectrums, but it's a lot of work getting the right sound. [Just an idea...] Martin mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 22:35:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:33:19 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, >the Virus delay timing will >cause the resulting delay beat beeing pushed or laid-back by 5 ms. This is slightly more than a 512th note at 120 bpm. Then take care about the distance of the loudspeakers to your ear. Only 1.7 meter distance will add another 5 ms to the delay, due to the sonic speed resp. latency. > >What are we talking about? A serious problem. :-))))))) (sorry Christoph, you walked right into that one ! :-) Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 22:43:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:42:25 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Another Small One... X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Rick Reyes schrieb: > >* From "Rick Reyes" > >I thought it did. I do not have access to my virus, but I think the bank letter turns lower case. (i.e. A = a). Can anyone confirm this? > >Rick Yes ,thatīs it.When you edit a preset in one or more parameters the bank letters turns lower case. This is also written in the manual. Stay Fresh Jens W. >>* From Jim Achen >> >>It's probably been asked before...but here goes >> >>Is it possible to make an indication on the display whether a sound has been edited or not...especially in the multisingle mode. >> >>Thanks >> >>Jim Achen > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 22:59:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay - WARE To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: FX news from access? Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:00:24 -0500 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay - WARE Christophe wrote: >If you really need such a precise delay time control, >due to the sonic speed resp. latency. >What are we talking about? Actually I agree - this is what we call in my line of work "pounding flyshit with a hammer" - a level of resolution or detail that is not really warranted for the application. Maybe it's me, but I can't really detect 3ms. I've certainly never worked with a drummer who didn't wander several ms per measure, giving my Virus plenty of delay room.... And if the drummer IS clicktracked, you can get midi clock off of that. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 00:00:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: erol@pop.xs4all.nl Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:57:35 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "Erik van 't Woud" Subject: Re: Another Small One... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Erik van 't Woud" At 18:47 18-5-99 +0200, you wrote: >Is it possible to make an indication on the display whether a sound has been edited or not...especially in the multisingle mode. I think the BANK-indicator goes from CAPS to lower when the sound is edited. (A101 E-Bow -> uneditted) (a101 E-Bow -> editted and not stored) Bye, Erik. ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- Erik van 't Woud erol@xs4all.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 00:32:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests, wishes +++ for OS 3 & 4 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:25:25 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Lars Herrlein wrote... >What about letting the user decide which waveform to use for OSC1 ? As we already have a lot of waves, is it possible to use them ? Mm yes, this would make a big difference to me. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 00:33:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:25:27 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >>* Being able to change OSC1 pitch - maybe a 'shift' key while turning OSC2 >>pitch? I could just assign a definable for this but it would be very handy. > >Where do we get the shift key? Very special. Hold down Env->FM/Osc2 and twist OSC2 tune? This wouldn't interfere with the normal functioning of the Env->FM button in any way. >>* Clock sync on chorus/flange and delay LFOs > >Assign LFO1 or 2 or 3 to Chorus delay or Delay time by the ASSIGN and sync it to clock. I will have to try this again. I did do this before but it didn't sound quite right, perhaps I left the flange LFO at some =/= 0 value. I often assign the delay time to LFO (or something else...velocity is fun) but this sounds quite different from dialing in a value to the delay LFO. Will have to try this again when the virus is hooked up (I played out live last weekend, I haven't reconnected everything yet)/ >If I got that right, the supposed wave will not sound one octave lower, since it has the same period, as you said. It does have the same period, but inverting the waveform every 2nd cycle means fundamental frequency is halved. At 100Hz this is not noticeable due to limitations of the ear but at 200Hz such a wave will sound an octave lower than a regular wave, if no harmonics are present. I want to use this acoustic illusion in music, so that you hear one tone, but as it gets LP-filtered it mysteriously seems to drop an octave. >Anyway, are you sure that you can create this wave by FM ? No, not unless I could FM with a square wave I think :) >Beside that, the LFO's of the Virus are not build for accurate FM in this spectral range. There is no digital synth with such LFO's. Generally you have to use a full oscillator for such modulations. Hm. I will try building the wave in Sound forge and running it through the sampler. If I get something that demonstrates the effect well I'll send you a .wav file. Thanks for your patience with my weird question! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 00:32:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:25:29 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >Most of the voice stealings that happen to the Virus are definetely not perceptual (wahrnehmbar). >The varying brightness will exacly reflect the situation, which is necessary for this way of note stealing. OK, I do disagree about the need for such detail of *how* voices are being stolen while I am playing, but if you are set on using the LFO that is up to you. It is your design of course :) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 00:32:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:25:31 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Aaron Havill wrote... >I would love to see more processing power available for external audio myself. Anyone else? MAybe some setups where one signal source was from the external in(s), and one was selectable from the Virus patches, set up to ring modulate or FM each other. And of course there's the vocoder.... By the way you can have fun with the vocoder by setting it to 1 (yes, one) input band. Then it becomes like an envelope follower and you can do some really nice pitch-shifting tricks without using much DSP. I have had really good results doing this on voices, try tweaking OSC2 pitch. Also the vocoder controls have weird effects when you only use a single band. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 00:42:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:41:35 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 23:00 Uhr +0200 on 18.05.1999 Jim B-Reay - WARE wrote: >I've certainly never worked with a drummer who didn't wander several ms per measure, giving my Virus plenty of delay room.... And if the drummer IS clicktracked, you can get midi clock off of that. Isn't that the pleaseure of playing live, and with a drummer? those little irregularities that make everthing sound so much more alive than machines pounding away? If the delay drifts away from the drummer, don't blame the delay, don't blame the drummer -- readjust it. That's what you do when you play live. play the machines you brought out with you... Another good idea might be to give the drummer a headphone mix of the Virus and the delay (plus whatever else he might need) so he can hear the delay and lock himself onto that. unless you try to confuse him by some wild hardcore dubstyle delay tweaking, this should be almost as tight as a drummer playing to a click. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 23:08:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:06:59 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voice consumption indicator (was:what next???) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Make it so! ;-p Dimitri. CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: The LED mode could hold a new mode, that lets the LFO Rate LED's flash if a voice steal occured at any part. If the LED flashes dark, a stealing occured, >but it is inaudible; nevertheless it indicates that no more polyphony should be added. >If the LED flashes bright, a 'hard' voice stealing happened, even if it might not be audible in a busy arrangement, but it has to be checked. In general, the behavior of the LED directly reflects the voice stealing situation, in time and amplitude. >This is very easy to implement, the LED brightness is simply linked to the amp envelope level (as described in my mail yesterday) of the voice that is cut ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 18 23:32:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:30:47 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Lo-freq effect Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Now that it's feature-request time, I'd like to put one too. It's an old wish of mine, but I'd liek it a lot. It's possible to quantize the signal in apmplitude from the OSC by a certain amount with the corresponding button. What I would like is that pressing the quantize (ono, eh, saturation)_button 2 times enables you to quantise the sound in time. That is, changing the 'sample rate' in e.g. 1/2, 1/3 or 1/4 etc of the original. Putting this sound through the filters, e.g. a hig or band-pass flter,.....woow. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 05:14:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:22:45 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus keyboard Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD i had heard 3-5 weeks on the virus keyboard a week ago cheers weld Brian Birge wrote: >* From "Brian Birge" > >Sorry if this has been covered before but I just subscribed and I couldn't find any archives. Is the keyboard version out in the US yet? I've called several dealers and they don't know what the hell I'm talking about when I ask for it. If its not out yet, is there a finalized ship date? I don't have a virus but I think I'm going to get the keyboard as it seems the nicest out of all the VA synths. Thanks! - Brian > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 11:09:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:05:52 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ for OS 3 & 4 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf Lars Herrlein wrote: >4. My favourite wish: Ring modulator and split mode. >ring in front of the filter. and dont forget: ring modulation of external inputs! mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 16:06:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Step-seq. +++ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:37:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >New analog sequencers use quite a lot of DSP-power (I think) I don't think so - they don't need DSPs at all. >By the way, something I'm still looking for are good drawbar sounds. Would it be possible to exchange the oscillators against 'virtual drawbars' (a special Organ Mode), but to still use the filters? The oscillators can play some organ-like spectrums, but it's a lot of work getting the right sound. Get my sounds from Canine's site - there are a couple of organs you can twiddle with... >if I want to use the arpeggiator as 'step sequencer' it would be great if all the keys I touched while my sustain pedal was pressed were held. Now I have to press the sustain pedal all of the time Just keep at least one of the notes depressed while adding more. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 16:06:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Making waves Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:03:28 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" You can a similar wave on the Virus (use non-proportional font to see it properly) just by adding two square waves, 90° out of phase: _ | | _| |_ _ | | |_| Mix Osc2 (PW2=0, Semitone= -12, PhaseInit=32) and Sub Osc (Square). Luckily, the sub-oscillator is unaffected by the actual PhaseInit value (!) BTW: If you set PhaseInit to 64, they should cancel each other out completely - I'll try this now......yes they do (now and again - the frequencies aren't exactly the same?), when SubOsc level is 115. Note that the PW2 knob now seems to work the wrong way round (work this out for yourselves, guys!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 17:58:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:54:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FX news from access? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill NOW we're talking... thanks for that tip, I'll try it tonight but it sounds like it will work. Its so nice to be working with a machine that's so well designed, it seems like there aren't any limits as long as you've got a creative problem-solving mind. On Tue, 18 May 1999, Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >sorry ... I forget sometimes that people still *perform* music... > >anyhow, you could still have your fine resolution if you tell the delay/LFO/whatever to sync to clock (hear me out) then use one of the definable knobs to change the tempo. So now you've got granularity down to 1BPM (and less even because of the weird sync settings [e.g. 3/64] the Virus provides). That should be fine enough for performing (although I guess you could dream of some situations when you would want that 1mS granularity some other boxes give). > >If I could recognize differences of less than 1BPM while playing, I think that would be grounds for some Guinness record (or at least a pint). > >-zs > > >>No offense, but it's NOT all about MIDI Clock sync. I dcertainly use this when I'm running the Virus off of a sequencer, but for me its all about LIVE music, and when using the virus without a sequencer it is irritating to be limited to 127 delay times. In a related note: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A DEVICE THAT CAN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSLATE AN AUDIO SIGNAL INTO MIDI CLOCK? I've seen one or two that claim they can do it, but I wondered if any body had used one and found it effective. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 20:33:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:30:12 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: Step-seq. +++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >Get my sounds from Canine's site - there are a couple of organs you can twiddle with... O.k., I'll have a try with these. >Just keep at least one of the notes depressed while adding more. Thanks. There's only one problem: when I'd like to start with twice the same note it doesn't work (I'll have to release the key to press it once more). So it would be cool to add an 'sustain-pedal-pressed-notes-HOLD' to the arpeggiator. Martin mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 19 21:01:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:59:56 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Why don't we hear a square wave? Draw it on a paper and try to add a square wave (half frequency) to a sawtooth, both the same amplitude. The result is a sawtooth one octave lower. RAD! now I remember why I like making music ... sound is neat! l8r zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 02:08:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:04:20 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests, wishes +++ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Good idea Howard! I'll take it a step further though, off or C0 through C7 (or whatever). DTM. Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>* From CKe9644719@aol.com >>We'll see what we can do. This should be a key combination or even more, to hit different pitches. Any ideas? > >No-frills method: >A system parameter "TranspPlays" = off or on, to send a C whenever Transpose is changed. > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 11:18:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Richard Ansdell" To: Subject: Virus keyboard send aftertouch? Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:15:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Richard Ansdell" Anybody know if the keyboard version will be aftertouch sensitive? regards Richard Ansdell ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 12:42:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Janne Kaipainen" Organization: jyu To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:44:29 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus keyboard send aftertouch? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Janne Kaipainen" >* From "Richard Ansdell" Anybody know if the keyboard version will be aftertouch sensitive? According to the brochure (thanks Erik) it is. By the way, it think it would be worth the while to gather these pieces of information to Canine's VKb page.. Mainly the local switch thingie, aftertouch and perhaps the splittability. Just rambling, - janne kaipainen - jatka@cc.jyu.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 14:19:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:14:06 +0200 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Fwd: Re: k9, please post this to the access list.. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >X-From_: prmlscrm@home.com Thu May 20 05:11:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer >X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:09:35 -0400 >To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" From: Primal Scream >Subject: Re: k9, please post this to the access list.. At 4:32 Uhr +0200 on 17.05.1999 Primal Scream wrote: It's odd, ever since the list has changed "syles" or whatever.. canged the TYPE of way the emails are being sent, i can only recieve, but not send out to the list. anyways, could you please post this to the list: When assining the outputs in multi, i have no problem. HOWEVER, no matter howmany times i change the DELAY outputs, it will never save the position. NEVER. Even if i edit on the original patch. I'm very confused... I have *no* clue why this is happening.. any answers would be helpful! thanks in advance! >Eric think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 16:52:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: CarbonHaze@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:47:51 EDT Subject: WTB: Access Virus To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CarbonHaze@aol.com Hello: I am looking to purchase a virus, and would prefer to find one used. I would be willing to pay $850.00 plus shipping (u.s. only). Anyone out there got one, or know where I can get one? Alternatively, I would like to know where the best places to get one new is. I tried a few internet places, but they never returned any of my emails (bad sign), and the local sam ash wants almost $1400 for one (too much). thank you in advance. Tony Scharf Carbon Haze Negative Gain Productions http://www.negativegain.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 17:11:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:06:52 EDT Subject: Re: WTB: Access Virus To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com YOU FIND ONE FOR 850.00 AND I WILL GIVE YOU A GOLD STAR.. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 17:28:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:25:27 +0200 From: Carsten Hohmann Organization: Studierenden Internetzugang Goettingen X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe chohman@stud.uni-goettingen.de Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Carsten Hohmann unsubscribe chohman@stud.uni-goettingen.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 20 19:34:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:27:39 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >Now I got your idea. By a multiplication of your signal by a half octave square wave - which is simply an altering polarity sign here - you will archieve this effect. But a multiplication is not done by FM but by ring modulation! How interesting! I had not considered that the sidebands would give this effect. I must bow to your superior audio knowledge (again). Thank you for this suggestion, I will try it out immediately. >This 'dropping octave' effect is simply to create - for a sawtooth: Get single A126: INIT and turn OSC BAL to the left to hear only OSC1. By increasing the SUB OSC volume you will add another sawtooth wave which is one octave lower than OSC1, even though the subosc wave is a square. Hmm, does this mean that the sub osc is actually RM'ed with the oscillators? Time for some experiments! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 01:45:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Access Virus Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:40:34 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Carbon Haze wrote.. >I am looking to purchase a virus, and would prefer to find one used. I would be willing to pay $850.00 plus shipping (u.s. only). Anyone out >there got one, or know where I can get one? I think you'll be very lucky to find one that cheap! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 02:44:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "D_Tikovoi" To: Subject: k9, please post this to the access list.. Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 01:14:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "D_Tikovoi" * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >X-From_: prmlscrm@home.com Thu May 20 05:11:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer >X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:09:35 -0400 >To: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" From: Primal Scream >Subject: Re: k9, please post this to the access list.. At 4:32 Uhr +0200 on 17.05.1999 Primal Scream wrote: It's odd, ever since the list has changed "syles" or whatever.. canged the TYPE of way the emails are being sent, i can only recieve, but not send out to the list. anyways, could you please post this to the list: When assining the outputs in multi, i have no problem. HOWEVER, no matter howmany times i change the DELAY outputs, it will never save the position. NEVER. Even if i edit on the original patch. I'm very confused... I have *no* clue why this is happening.. any answers would be helpful! thanks in advance! >Eric think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 02:44:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "D_Tikovoi" To: Subject: Re: other requests Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 01:41:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "D_Tikovoi" Is it possible to include free tickets to the bahamas and a washing machine in the next OS.. Thanx Dimitri ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 01:11:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 01:06:57 +0000 From: markuswz X-Accept-Language: it,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Audio/Midi Clock Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From markuswz Jim B-Reay - WARE wrote: >* From Jim B-Reay - WARE > >>In a related note: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A DEVICE THAT CAN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSLATE AN AUDIO SIGNAL INTO MIDI CLOCK? > >Doesn't that Voyager Beat Extractor do that nicely? I've heard this works well from reviews in SOS.... >http://www.redsound.com/redsound/voyager/eu/ > >They also have the Federation BPM FX - tempo based effects processors that sync to audio. > >On a retro tip - Garfield Electronics had a few boxes that did the trick but mostly for studio applications. The Redsound boxes seem to be for live applications. > >Good Luck! > >Jim I have a RED VOyAGER BEAT EXTRACTOR very good for sinc TEKNO,House ,dance, not so good for jungle, heavy metal, or any rithm under 80 BPM. It must traduce regular BD line from any audio source. AVE! Markuswz. ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 07:27:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:22:41 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Hey, I'd settle for "Phantom Menace" tickets... DTM. D_Tikovoi wrote: >* From "D_Tikovoi" > >Is it possible to include free tickets to the bahamas and a washing machine in the next OS.. >Thanx > >Dimitri > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 09:39:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:37:26 +0200 From: "Ingo Ronald Meier" X-Accept-Language: en To: access virus list Subject: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Ingo Ronald Meier" Hi! Ok, ok, it is better to put it on a table or something else. But I want to rackmount it at the moment. So, I have problems with the cables because the virus seems not to be constructed for rack usage. Any solutions welcome. thanx Ingo ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 18:01:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:59:14 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >Ok, ok, it is better to put it on a table or something else. I've been wondering about that. Why did Access decide to make it a table top? It certainly makes it easier to use it in my kitchen, dining room and living room, which are the places in my home where I have tables. But not in my studio, where I just have an A-frame, a mixing console and two racks. No table. Is it common for users to have tables in their studio? >So, I have problems with the cables because the virus seems not to be constructed for rack usage. Any solutions welcome. It will have to go at the top of your rack, or you must leave space between the Virus and the next rack unit. BTW I still haven't found where I can buy a rack mount unit in San Francisco. I checked Guitar Center and Leo's many times, but they don't have it. I have rack mounted my Virus with duct tape. Gives it character I suppose. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 11:27:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Joachim Glasstetter" Organization: Daimler-Benz Aerospace AG To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:24:58 -0100 Subject: unsubscribe glassjo@vs.dasa.de Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Joachim Glasstetter" =================================================== Dipl.-Ing. Joachim Glasstetter VE2SE6 Daimler-Benz Aerospace AG Woerthstrasse 85 89077 Ulm Germany Tel. +49 731 392 4731 Fax. +49 731 392 4958 mailto:glassjo@vs.dasa.de =================================================== ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 09:38:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:53:53 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: curve=illegal! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi all! I just got my virus back from TSI after it had a memory bug repair. I almost forgot what it sounded like...:) Sometimes I get an 'illegal saturation curve'. I've encountered it before the repair as well, so i don't think this is hardware (and the system check routine runs without errors), but what IS it? :) thanks! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 17:25:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:22:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access virus list Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill I know that Access sells rack-mount ears that can replace those lovely wooden side panels (about $30 U.S. for a pair, available from anywhere that sells the Virus.) As far as the cabling problem, I think the best you'll be able to do is equip it with right-angle 1/4" cables (the type they mainly sell for guitar cables, with a plug that is perpendicular to the cable on one end.) Plus, it's really a bad idea to pack your gear as tightly as you can in a rackspace. 2-3 spaces between pieces of gear helps prevent the power supplies and other EMI sources within the gear from finding its way into your audio. On Fri, 21 May 1999, Ingo Ronald Meier wrote: >* From "Ingo Ronald Meier" > >Hi! > >Ok, ok, it is better to put it on a table or something else. But I want to rackmount it at the moment. > >So, I have problems with the cables because the virus seems not to be constructed for rack usage. Any solutions welcome. > >thanx >Ingo > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 18:21:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:19:38 +0200 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: access-music.de X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Check it ! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 18:42:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:20:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >Ok, ok, it is better to put it on a table or something else. But I want to rackmount it at the moment. > >So, I have problems with the cables because the virus seems not to be constructed for rack usage. Any solutions welcome. I have it in a rack too and I'm very happy with...much more then it was on a table. I think it depends on what kind of rack you have. If you have a 'simple' rack where you can just put some modules on top then it is a bit difficult, but with my rack it works absolutely great. My rack is horizontal (with a slight angle) and vertical (also with little angle) and in the middle there's just a black plate. Under that plate you can put all the cables etc... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 20:01:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: How to rackmount a virus? Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:53:58 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Ingo wrote.. >So, I have problems with the cables because the virus seems not to be constructed for rack usage. Any solutions welcome. Well you could use guitar cable for the audio, with an L-shaped connector on the end. But you probably won't find MIDI cable like this. Unless you want to open up the Virus and move the i/o around i suggest you leave 3 empty spaces in the rack and just put a blanking plate in front of the cable. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 20:01:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:54:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >The only knowledge that you need for this is that Ring Modulation is a simple multiplication of two signals. For some reason I didn't think about the fact that the sum & difference frequencies would be harmonically consistent with the original signals. Probably I was thinking this way because I used to use RM for doing weird things to audio instead of working with pure tones. Duh :) >>Hmm, does this mean that the sub osc is actually RM'ed with the oscillators? > >No, the sub osc is simply mixed (that means added) to the oscillators. Both experiments get clear if you paint both waves and the resulting wave on a paper Ah, but I only want the 'undertone' to appear when the filter is closed. Anyway I think I have got what I was looking for... Start with Init (a127). Set Osc 1 + 2 to a square wave, leave PW1 at 63 (square) and set PW2 to 32 (25%). Set detune to 0 and tune Osc1 down 1 octave (-12). Sub Osc and Osc Vol can be 0. Set RM to 127. With medium resonance, open and close the filter. At low values (<30) you'll hear a subby tone, as you open the filter it will seem to jump up an octave. This won't be obvious all over the keyboard. The easist way to hear it is to set LFO2 to modulate Filter 1 by a small amount with a square wave - you'll hear a 'virtual arpeggio'. By the way, there is no magic signal being created here, the perception of the tone falling an octave with the filter closed is an acoustic illusion to do with the two different ways the ear perceives sound. When spectral information is present (filter open) people identify it as being an octave higher than when their ear has to depend on the 'pulse train', the series of signals that a pulse with no harmonics makes. Inverting every second cycle of the osc2 waveform (by RMing it with Osc1) fools the ear into perceiving the pulse train as being an octave lower than its real frequency, because above ~200Hz it resolves the inverted and normal pulses (one signal) as being two signals at half the fundamental frequency. Sorry if this thread has bored anyone, I'm just into wierd sound experiments :-) Thanks again Christoph. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 20:37:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:34:40 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >being two signals at half the fundamental frequency. > >Sorry if this thread has bored anyone, I'm just into wierd sound experiments :-) Thanks again Christoph. I think it's totally important to know the science of waveforms in order to be fully proficient on our algorithmic Viruses. Those who are bored probably aren't making very interesting sounds (well, maybe by accident!). -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 20:57:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:54:40 +0200 From: Prolixin X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: (no subject) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Prolixin unsubscribe prolixin@online.no ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 21 22:56:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Octave drop Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:55:31 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >By the way, there is no magic signal being created here, the perception of the tone falling an octave with the filter closed is an acoustic illusion to do with the two different ways the ear perceives sound. I've got a simpler explanation for this effect: 1. Use a single saw wave - it already contains the harmonics you need here to jump octaves (squares don't). 2. A resonant BP could get rid of the fundamental entirely, but even a LP resonant "knee" can boost harmonics quite a lot, making others (i.e. the fundamental) far less significant. 3. Try this: Take a saw, set LP cutoff to 25, Resonance above 70, KeyFollow +63, LFO2 (square) to filter +20, play low notes... >Sorry if this thread has bored anyone, I'm just into wierd sound experiments Not bored me at all - I like this kind of thing! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 22 01:23:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:20:27 EDT Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? To: access-list@teklab.com, rpieket@best.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 5/21/99 11:06:40 AM, rpieket@best.com writes: >I've been wondering about that. Why did Access decide to make it a table top? It >certainly makes it easier to use it in my kitchen, dining room and living room, >which are the places in my home where I have tables. But not in my studio, where >I just have an A-frame, a mixing console and two racks. No table. Is it common >for users to have tables in their studio? FWIW, I use a Quiklok dual keyboard stand, with my main keyboard controller on the bottom, and a 100mm x 30mm board with 5mm "lip" on top. This is angled slightly downward, and are where my Virus and Microwave XT sit. Works great with easy access (no pun intended!) while playing. Now where am I going to put that Q one day.......? Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 22 01:28:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "miguel q" To: Subject: RE: How to rackmount a virus? Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:37:27 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "miguel q" actually you can find L - shaped midi connectors, a bit more rare than the normal fare but they exist. cheers miguel miguelq@flash.net | lostrack records- dallas, tx icq #5296752 | http://www.flash.net/~lostrack >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >[mailto:owner-access-list@teklab.com]On Behalf Of Anig Browl Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 12:54 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: RE: How to rackmount a virus? > > >* From "Anig Browl" > >Ingo wrote.. >>So, I have problems with the cables because the virus seems not to be constructed for rack usage. Any solutions welcome. > >Well you could use guitar cable for the audio, with an L-shaped connector on >the end. But you probably won't find MIDI cable like this. Unless you want to open up the Virus and move the i/o around i suggest you leave 3 empty spaces in the rack and just put a blanking plate in front of the cable. > >Anig Browl > > >__________________________________________________________________ _________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 22 01:52:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 00:46:26 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Dodgy Mod Matrix and Gear Junkies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Howard, I cannot duplicate the problem that I had with the env. decay only retriggering in mono mode either! However it was there before I left for NYC. I spent at least an hour trying to get around it. There again I may well have missed something. (I often do : ) What I have found out though, is that there is a bug. In the assign destinations the parameter: >UniLfoPhs< is actually addressing the >UniSpread< parameter and vice versa. Which accounts for the lack of panoramic movement when attempting to use an lfo to modify the >UniSpread< parameter. Which I believe you found too. Anyway thanks for your help and happy tweaking. Bilbo Bagwash Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > > >>I am not sure but I think this means that the filter env. doesn't retrigger in poly mode. What do you (or anyone else) think? It certainly re-triggers in any of the mono modes. > >I think when you're running an arpeggio, the filter envelope is *always* retriggered because there's no legato. > >I don't quite understand what you're getting at because I haven't been able to reproduce your problem in any key mode. Post me a patch? > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 22 04:55:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 03:49:52 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Bug in 2.51 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz In case the Access team missed that last post, there is a bug in O.S 2.51........ In the assign destinations the parameter: >UniLfoPhs< is actually addressing the >UniSpread< parameter and vice versa. Which accounts for the lack of panoramic movement when attempting to use an lfo to modify the >UniSpread< parameter. Regards Virusheads, Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 22 21:35:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: other requests Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:31:19 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote... >Right. Those who are bored simply make music. !? And I thought that was inspiration all along... Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 23 07:50:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: other requests Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:44:50 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >Hey, I'd settle for "Phantom Menace" tickets... Leaden dialogue strikes again. Check 'The Matrix' if you want to see a *good* movie. Or, action but not sci fi, 'Bullet In The Head' by John Woo. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 00:11:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 05:44:53 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: other requests Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD OK No Menace Flame Wars here !!!! : ) i thought it ruled!!! hehehehe W Thomas Whitmore wrote: >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >>Hey, I'd settle for "Phantom Menace" tickets... > >Leaden dialogue strikes again. > >Check 'The Matrix' if you want to see a *good* movie. Or, action but not sci fi, 'Bullet In The Head' by John Woo. > >Thomas > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 23 23:27:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Bass Drum squelch Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:15:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" I love the kick drums in the Virus but I have a problem. It may be my machine. When I am playing a kick drum patch alone it sounds fine, but if I add another patch (playing a snare say) then the kick drum sound goes wrong every time the other patch pays a note. This seems to be worse with the Kick on channel 10 - if I move it to another channel it usually sounds OK, until I add a third patch and it sounds weird again (not exactly the same way as the first). It sounds like the voice stealing algorithm at work actually, the sound is really similar to what you get if you mess with the envelope on the kick. But there is definitely not a polyphony issue here, we are talking about a maximum of 3 or 4 voices (sometimes I use unison to fatten up the kick). It's not Cubase either, I had the same problem when I used Cakewalk. I've got to the point where I just sample a kick drum out of the Virus because I can't depend on the sound to stay consistent while a few other patches are playing. Strangely I don't seem to suffer this problem with other sounds, only with a bunch of the kick drum patches. Are the envelopes or LFOs running so fast that extra MIDI information screws them up or something? It's really irritating as I would like to compose some tracks with just the Virus alone, but I can't depend on the kick to sound the same from beat to beat. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 03:54:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: other requests Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:49:05 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" 'Bullet In The Head' by John Woo. Subtitled Hong Kong action, tight and fast and beautiful. Easily comparable with Terminator or T2, director John Woo's best movie ever. Hong Kong in the early 70s... three close friends get into gangster trouble, and flee. At this time Vietnam is not an ideal tourist destination, but that's where they end up. Even their friendship may not survive... Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 05:05:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: StudioVision Patch Names Date: Sun, 23 May 99 22:15:34 -0500 x-sender: heywoodj@mailh.starnetinc.com From: Heywood Jablowme To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Heywood Jablowme Hi, Has anyone created a Virus Patch Name document for SVP? Thanks, HJ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 10:46:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:35:08 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >>Ok, ok, it is better to put it on a table or something else. >I've been wondering about that. Why did Access decide to make it a table top? It >certainly makes it easier to use it in my kitchen, dining room and living room, >which are the places in my home where I have tables. But not in my studio, where >I just have an A-frame, a mixing console and two racks. No table. Is it common for users to have tables in their studio? Perhaps it's a "wanna appeal to the Nord market" situation? Also, I tend to find my rack units to be inaccessible as performance-oriented setups -- so having a tabletop that forces you to mount it in front of you means you end up playing the instrument a lot more. My 19" rack system is pretty much pergatory for stuff whose knobs I do not need to tweak ... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 10:37:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Chris van der Merwe To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Bass Drum squelch Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:45:16 +0200 Organization: Arnes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris van der Merwe I had the exact same problem when attempting to use the Bass Drum sounds from the Virus. To me though it sounded like one of the oscillators was at a different value each time the bass drum was sounded. So now that others have had this problem I know it's not just my paranoid ears :-) Any solutions, I just sample the sounds at the moment which is fine and takes some load of the Virus which is busy enough! Chris - Damn Funkies http://broke.cjb.net http://mp3.com/artists/21/damn_funkies.html -----Original Message----- From: Anig Browl [SMTP:eddy@anig-browl.org] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 8:15 PM To: access-list Subject: Bass Drum squelch * From "Anig Browl" I love the kick drums in the Virus but I have a problem. It may be my machine. When I am playing a kick drum patch alone it sounds fine, but if I add another patch (playing a snare say) then the kick drum sound goes wrong every time the other patch pays a note. This seems to be worse with the Kick on channel 10 - if I move it to another channel it usually sounds OK, until I add a third patch and it sounds weird again (not exactly the same way as the first). It sounds like the voice stealing algorithm at work actually, the sound is really similar to what you get if you mess with the envelope on the kick. But there is definitely not a polyphony issue here, we are talking about a maximum of 3 or 4 voices (sometimes I use unison to fatten up the kick). It's not Cubase either, I had the same problem when I used Cakewalk. I've got to the point where I just sample a kick drum out of the Virus because I can't depend on the sound to stay consistent while a few other patches are playing. Strangely I don't seem to suffer this problem with other sounds, only with a bunch of the kick drum patches. Are the envelopes or LFOs running so fast that extra MIDI information screws them up or something? It's really irritating as I would like to compose some tracks with just the Virus alone, but I can't depend on the kick to sound the same from beat to beat. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 13:09:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Chris van der Merwe To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: How to rackmount a virus? Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:12:53 +0200 Organization: Arnes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Chris van der Merwe I don't have a rack at all. I've got this wierd computer table thingee with all kinds of levels. My mixer goes in the middle, my monitor (screen) goes on a higher middle level with speakers to the side. My EMU goes on the right and Virus on the left and my A33 keyboard sits on a ironing board I found in my girlfriends attic. I got various other gadgets and stomp boxes which I put wherever. I once thought about buying a rack though - slipped my mind until now...I got a cool table I guess. Chris - Damn Funkies http://broke.cjb.net http://mp3.com/artists/21/damn_funkies.html -----Original Message----- From: Jay Vaughan [SMTP:jay@teklab.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 10:35 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? * From Jay Vaughan >>Ok, ok, it is better to put it on a table or something else. >I've been wondering about that. Why did Access decide to make it a table top? It >certainly makes it easier to use it in my kitchen, dining room and living room, >which are the places in my home where I have tables. But not in my studio, where >I just have an A-frame, a mixing console and two racks. No table. Is it common >for users to have tables in their studio? Perhaps it's a "wanna appeal to the Nord market" situation? Also, I tend to find my rack units to be inaccessible as performance-oriented setups -- so having a tabletop that forces you to mount it in front of you means you end up playing the instrument a lot more. My 19" rack system is pretty much pergatory for stuff whose knobs I do not need to tweak ... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 17:48:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:47:11 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: Bass Drum squelch Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Did you guys set the PHASE INIT to a different value than 0? THis is very important for bass drums... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 17:29:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Bass Drum squelch Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:26:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rick Reyes" I have found slightly random playback of synth created drum sounds to be fairly common among synths. Atleast I have had it occur with my Virus, MWII, JP8000, and my old XP-50. As mentioned in this post, usually the best solution is to sample the drum sounds. That way they are static, and do not change with each hit... Rick >* From Chris van der Merwe > >I had the exact same problem when attempting to use the Bass Drum sounds from the Virus. To me though it sounded like one of the oscillators was at a different value each time the bass drum was sounded. So now that others have had this problem I know it's not just my paranoid ears :-) > >Any solutions, I just sample the sounds at the moment which is fine and takes some load of the Virus which is busy enough! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 20:48:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Bass Drum squelch Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:42:10 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >Did you guys set the PHASE INIT to a different value than 0? THis is very important for bass drums... It's not an issue unless there are multiple channels in use...if I play the kick drum alone it sounds fine. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 24 23:05:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:04:34 +0200 From: Prolixin X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe prolixin@online.no Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Prolixin ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 07:31:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:30:18 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >Also, I tend to find my rack units to be inaccessible as performance-oriented setups -- so having a tabletop that forces you to mount it in front of you means you end up playing the instrument a lot more. > >My 19" rack system is pretty much pergatory for stuff whose knobs I do not need to tweak ... It depends on the rack. Mine is "Kraftwerk-style" (those of you who have seen the band in concert will know what I mean). Very ergonomic, especially if you make music standing up like me. Very performance oriented, indeed. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 03:23:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:17:02 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" I have a big custom desk for my music setup. My flatmate and I designed and built it over the last year. The frame is 50 mm angle steel, powder coated, with the angles open outwards (!) on the sides. The top surface and shelves are covered in rippled blue-green linoleum. All surfaces are mousable. It's got sliding shelves for computer keyboard & mouse, and for amp / mixer. These run on file cabinet runners, rated for 25 kg loads. The desk is 1.8 m wide, and quite deep. It weighs upwards of 60 kg, and disassembles into two side frames, and a top frame. The top surface board is clamped between side and top frames. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 03:31:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:22:00 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 01:17 PM 5/25/99 +1200, you wrote: >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >I have a big custom desk for my music setup. My flatmate and I designed and built it over the last year. > Got plans you can make available on the 'web? I'm considering doing the same thing for my studio here at TekLab to finally replace my aging Ikea Jerker abominations... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 05:30:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:24:45 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >>I have a big custom desk for my music setup. My flatmate and I designed and built it over the last year. >Got plans you can make available on the 'web? I'm considering doing the same thing for my studio here at TekLab to finally replace my aging Ikea Jerker abominations... Nope, haven't got any formal plans. The design was fairly straight forward, joing the frames & top surface in an invisible way was the main design challenge. The top frame (angle steel) had bolts welded on the inside pointing down; the surface board has holes for the bolts to go thru, and a rebate on the outer 50 mm to go flush with the top frame. The side frames then fit onto the bolts, and are fastened on with nuts. They comprise rectangles for the sides (eg legs are connected at ground level), with smaller rectangles (25 or 30 mm steel) welded at right angles which extend towards the center of the desk, clamping the top board again. Cabling's such a snap when you can pull a sliding shelf out to get at it! Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 06:10:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:00:10 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Nope, haven't got any formal plans. The design was fairly straight forward, joing the frames & top surface in an invisible way was the main design challenge. > This warrants a pic! Put some up on the web - I'm sure I'm not the only synth furniture fetishist that would like to have a look... And hey, it'd be an obligatory virus shot too ... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 05:54:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:02:59 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD how about picture Thomas? Weld Thomas Whitmore wrote: >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >>>I have a big custom desk for my music setup. My flatmate and I designed and built it over the last year. > >>Got plans you can make available on the 'web? I'm considering doing the same thing for my studio here at TekLab to finally replace my aging Ikea Jerker abominations... > >Nope, haven't got any formal plans. The design was fairly straight forward, joing the frames & top surface in an invisible way was the main design challenge. > >The top frame (angle steel) had bolts welded on the inside pointing down; the surface board has holes for the bolts to go thru, and a rebate on the outer 50 mm to go flush with the top frame. > >The side frames then fit onto the bolts, and are fastened on with nuts. They comprise rectangles for the sides (eg legs are connected at ground level), with smaller rectangles (25 or 30 mm steel) welded at right angles which extend towards the center of the desk, clamping the top board again. > >Cabling's such a snap when you can pull a sliding shelf out to get at it! > >Cheers, >Thomas > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 06:13:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: ThaPhunkE1@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:10:27 EDT Subject: unsubscribe ThaPhunkE1@aol.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ThaPhunkE1@aol.com unsubscribe ThaPhunkE1@aol.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 07:22:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:17:50 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >how about picture Thomas? Good idea. Anyone got a camera? :-) OK, I'll see if I can do some pics in the next couple of weeks. I assume you want construction detail shots? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 07:40:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:30:28 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 05:17 PM 5/25/99 +1200, you wrote: >OK, I'll see if I can do some pics in the next couple of weeks. I assume you want construction detail shots? Absolutely! :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 07:43:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:31:11 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: How to rackmount a virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 10:30 PM 5/24/99 +0000, you wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket >>Also, I tend to find my rack units to be inaccessible as performance-oriented setups -- so having a tabletop that forces you to mount it in front of you means you end up playing the instrument a lot more. My 19" rack system is pretty much pergatory for stuff whose knobs I do not need to tweak ... >It depends on the rack. Mine is "Kraftwerk-style" (those of you who have seen the band in concert will know what I mean). Very ergonomic, especially if you make music standing up like me. Very performance oriented, indeed. - Ronald. Ah, in that case, I have a suggestion for OS3.0 - make the Virus grow some sort of ergonomic 19" rack extension so that we can all have ergonomic positioning as part of our Virus feature set ... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 15:28:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:29:30 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Bass Drum squelch Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >>It's not an issue unless there are multiple channels in use...if I play the kick drum alone it sounds fine. > >your problem sounded like something else anyways, you are right, but the other guy (forget his name) seemed to have been suffering from phase init probs. Sounds like the problem I have with my hihats. The sound is based on the two oscillators playing at a very high, fixed frequency. There is some FM. No noise generator. Twin mode is enabled. There are two unexpected effects: (1) each subsequent note seems to have a slightly different pitch, and (2) when other instruments are played simultaneously, the hihat sound changes character. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 13:55:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:45:16 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: Bass Drum squelch Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 20:42 Uhr +0200 on 24.05.1999 Anig Browl wrote: > >It's not an issue unless there are multiple channels in use...if I play the kick drum alone it sounds fine. your problem sounded like something else anyways, you are right, but the other guy (forget his name) seemed to have been suffering from phase init probs. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 25 20:43:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:34:33 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: curve=illegal! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong >>Sometimes I get an 'illegal saturation curve'. I've encountered it >>before the repair as well, so i don't think this is hardware (and the system check routine runs without errors), but what IS it? :) >What means sometimes? At some sounds saved in your banks? Then just correct the value and save the sound. It's at some saved sounds in my banks. These bank were created on my virus-with-memory bug. Maybe it's got something to do with that? I corrected them as you suggest here, but i was just curious... Thanks again for direct feedback... jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 26 07:25:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pete@voicenet.com (Peter Calderwood) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 05:19:31 GMT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pete@voicenet.com (Peter Calderwood) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 26 19:08:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:03:45 +0200 From: Thomas Klein To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Klein unsubscribe acess-list ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 16:08:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:07:02 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe access-list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >It has been my failure to update the info on my site that led to this misunderstanding, so people please don't be mad at the unsubscribers but at me...;) Actually, there is misleading information on http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/access-list.html. I quote: "Send mail to access-list@teklab.com to subscribe or unsubscribe now..." I think I have mentioned this before, like, err, several times? - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 10:58:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [194.6.79.172] From: "Lee Martin" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe access-list Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:37:55 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Lee Martin" unsubscribe access list ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 13:08:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 04:03:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: upgrade To: Access List Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand Upgraded my Virus OS 2.5.1 with the first MIDI file; it says if I already had 2.0, that I wouldn't need to run the 2nd MIDI file. 2.5.1 gave me banks C & D; does the second MIDI file populate these banks with new (different) patches than simply copies of banks A & B? Another question: does the Virus have a battery in it, or are patches all written to flash-rom? Thanks. - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 13:09:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 04:05:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: no patch knob... To: Access List Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand One design flaw which irritates me is the inability to use the value knob to quickly dial-up patches. Will this be addressed in the next OS? Despite a few small flaws, I love my Virus. - F. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 13:32:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:28:53 +0200 Organization: access music electronics To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: no patch knob... X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >One design flaw which irritates me is the inability to use the value knob to quickly dial-up patches. Well, it's there: Just hold down the SINGLE button while turning the VALUE knob ! Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 14:00:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:50:43 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: upgrade Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:03 PM +0200 on 27.05.1999 Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: > >Upgraded my Virus OS 2.5.1 with the first MIDI file; it says if I already had 2.0, that I wouldn't need to run the 2nd MIDI file. This is correct. > >2.5.1 gave me banks C & D; does the second MIDI file populate these banks with new (different) patches >than simply copies of banks A & B? They are simply copies. The idea is that you can alwys access the factory presets in banks C and D while you can store your own sounds in A and B. > >Another question: does the Virus have a battery in it, or are patches all written to flash-rom? They are written to flashrom (Bank C and D are). I don't know about A and B, but I am pretty sure the Virus does not have a battery inside. I could be wrong though. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 14:35:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dr. Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Re: no patch knob... Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:38:59 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dr. Stefan Trippler" would be really nice ... -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Frater YearTwoThousand > > >One design flaw which irritates me is the inability to use the value knob to quickly dial-up patches. > >Will this be addressed in the next OS? > >Despite a few small flaws, I love my Virus. > >- F. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 14:56:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:52:59 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: unsubscribe access-list Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" to everybody who for one reason or another would prefer to leave this mailing list: please note that the procedure requeired to do so has changed. If you subscribed a while ago you were being sent a message that said you need to write to the list address with the unsubscribe in the subject line. THIS IS NO LONGER VALID. these days you must send e-mail to majordomo@teklab.com In the body of your message write: unsubscribe access-list mymailaddress@mydomain.com end (Substitute the mymailaddress@mydomain.com part for your valid e-mail address) You can leave the subject line blank. you will shortly be automatically unsubscribed from the list. It has been my failure to update the info on my site that led to this misunderstanding, so people please don't be mad at the unsubscribers but at me...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 14:59:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:57:28 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: upgrade X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) K.9 Kai Niggemann schrieb: > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 1:03 PM +0200 on 27.05.1999 Frater YearTwoThousand wrote: >> >>Upgraded my Virus OS 2.5.1 with the first MIDI file; it says if I already had 2.0, that I wouldn't need to run the 2nd MIDI file. > >This is correct. > >> >>2.5.1 gave me banks C & D; does the second MIDI file populate these banks with new (different) patches >>than simply copies of banks A & B? > >They are simply copies. The idea is that you can alwys access the factory presets in banks C and D while you can store your own sounds in A and B. > >> >>Another question: does the Virus have a battery in it, or are patches all written to flash-rom? > >They are written to flashrom (Bank C and D are). I don't know about A and B, but I am pretty sure the Virus does not have a battery inside. I could be wrong though. > Hi ! Sorry, but youīre wrong.There is a battery inside.But I also donīt know if itīs only for storing sounds or for something else.Maybe it stores some Startup-Parameters. Stay Fresh Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 20:48:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:43:09 EDT Subject: keyboard??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com Does anyone know when the Virus keyboard is coming out? I need one right now!!! How much will it be in the U.S.??? thanks Dan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 00:01:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Frater YearTwoThousand Subject: Re: upgrade To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Frater YearTwoThousand Thank you Guido! :-) Much happier now. Did I miss it in the manual, or is this an undocumented feature? Thanks Canine. A physical question - has anyone had any trouble with the sides of their Virus coming loose? I just bought mine several weeks ago and noticed that the wood on the right side is coming loose. Is it glued on? I don't *remember* it being like that when I purchased it. Hopefully my flat-mate was gentle with it when he borrowed it from me... grrrrr... - Malcolm _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 27 23:56:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:05:00 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: keyboard??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD 3-6 weeks 2295$ list U.S. weld Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >Does anyone know when the Virus keyboard is coming out? I need one right now!!! >How much will it be in the U.S.??? > >thanks >Dan >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 13:33:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:26:46 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: keyboard??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:05 AM +0200 on 28.05.1999 WELD wrote: >3-6 weeks >2295$ list U.S. >weld MusicStore in cologne (www.musicstore.de) offers the keyboard for 3300 DM. But they also offer the Nova plus announce a voice expansion for it even before anyone is able to quote a definite price in Germany...;) the time frame you mentioned is probably about right, from all the rumors I have been hearing. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 14:24:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:33:22 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: keyboard??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD Canine and list i talked with my dealer last nite and he said July for the states on the keyboard. i have a deposit on one now weld K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 12:05 AM +0200 on 28.05.1999 WELD wrote: >>3-6 weeks >>2295$ list U.S. >>weld > >MusicStore in cologne (www.musicstore.de) offers the keyboard for 3300 DM. But they also offer the Nova plus announce a voice expansion for it even before anyone is able to quote a definite price in Germany...;) > >the time frame you mentioned is probably about right, from all the rumors I have been hearing. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 16:07:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:04:11 EDT Subject: Re: keyboard??? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com Did you discuss a final price on the keyboard and which dealer do you use? Are they local or a chain like Guitar Center? It seems very low key and not many stores know about it. It's annoying. thanks dan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 17:05:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:02:31 +0200 From: stef To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: OS version changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef Hi! Has anyone of you ever compiled a 'changes' document for all OS versions? Access? A document, which describes - version number and release date - new features - lost features - bugs fixed - new bugs for each Virus OS version. Is there any way to find out on which OS my printed manual is based on? Is there a place where i can find all old OS versions (ok..at least the descriptions)? stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 17:11:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron E Havill To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new Waldorf keyboard??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Aaron E Havill Does anyone have any info on the new Waldorf XTK keyboard? I just saw an ad in Keyboard magazine... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 17:51:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:59:41 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS version changes Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD isnt there one on canines page bueller, anyone? JW stef wrote: >* From stef > >Hi! > >Has anyone of you ever compiled a 'changes' document for all OS versions? Access? > >A document, which describes >- version number and release date >- new features >- lost features >- bugs fixed >- new bugs >for each Virus OS version. > >Is there any way to find out on which OS my printed manual is based on? > >Is there a place where i can find all old OS versions (ok..at least the descriptions)? > >stef(an). >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 18:49:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:47:52 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp This is kind of off topic, but I wanted to get some educated opinions on studio monitors... I've been mixing thru a pair of headphones for a long time now, and I feel it's time to splurge and get some studio monitor speakers. What are your opinions of self-amplified vs. non-amped speakers? I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 Bi-Amped monitors. I heard them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was really impressed with the sound. I also hear that JBL has some new self-amped monitors that are supposed to sound nice. So has anyone heard/worked with the above? I don't want to spend more than $1200 or so on monitors (including an amp if necessary) ... What's best? Thanks! zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 19:23:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:20:34 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/99 10:10:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time, zs@yahoo-inc.com writes: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >This is kind of off topic, but I wanted to get some educated opinions on studio monitors... > >I've been mixing thru a pair of headphones for a long time now, and I feel it's time to splurge and get some studio monitor speakers. > >What are your opinions of self-amplified vs. non-amped speakers? > >I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 Bi-Amped monitors. I heard them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was really impressed with the sound. I also hear that JBL has some new self-amped monitors that are supposed to sound nice. > >So has anyone heard/worked with the above? I don't want to spend more than $1200 or so on monitors (including an amp if necessary) ... What's best? > >Thanks! >zs I just went through the same thing - a search for better monitors and ended up with the Mackie HR824s after listening to many, many different brands. I can't believe how good they sound and I couldn't give them a higher recommendation. Remember - as a synth player, you are really a "speaker player." That is your acoustic instrument. If you don't want to spend that much, the new powered Tannoy Reveals (the blue ones) also sound great. They would be my second recommendation, but they don't give you a BIG sound like the Mackies do. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 19:56:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:52:42 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers rather than good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I want a pair that will both sound good but more importantly give me a pretty good idea of how my music will sound on most speakers. Any comments? dan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 20:30:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:27:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Haselmeier Subject: Re: OS version changes To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stefan Haselmeier Hi! I think i've got all Versions since 1.01, i will sent you the Textfiles next weekend to your Emailadress. Stefan --- stef schrieb: >* From stef > >Hi! > >Has anyone of you ever compiled a 'changes' document for all OS versions? Access? > >A document, which describes >- version number and release date >- new features >- lost features >- bugs fixed >- new bugs >for each Virus OS version. > >Is there any way to find out on which OS my printed manual is based on? > >Is there a place where i can find all old OS versions (ok..at least the descriptions)? > > >stef(an). > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _______________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 20:28:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:29:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Haselmeier Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stefan Haselmeier Hi! I use two Genelic 1091A and the Subwoover 1092. For me they sound great, good Bass and brilliant Treble. Stefan >>This is kind of off topic, but I wanted to get >some educated opinions on >>studio monitors... >> >>I've been mixing thru a pair of headphones for a >long time now, and I >>feel it's time to splurge and get some studio >monitor speakers. >> >>What are your opinions of self-amplified vs. >non-amped speakers? >> >>I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 >Bi-Amped monitors. I heard >>them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was >really impressed with the >>sound. I also hear that JBL has some new >self-amped monitors that are >>supposed to sound nice. >> >>So has anyone heard/worked with the above? I >don't want to spend more >>than $1200 or so on monitors (including an amp if >necessary) ... What's >>best? >> >>Thanks! >>zs > _______________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 20:46:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#mail.europa.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:45:16 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick You might check out the KRK V8 powered monitors as well. Luscious lows, sweet mids, crisp highs. You should be able to pick up a pair for under $1,200. I really like the HR-824's, but was absolutely blown away by the V8's. Definitely worth checking out... -Marc Visnick At 09:47 AM 5/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >This is kind of off topic, but I wanted to get some educated opinions on studio monitors... > >I've been mixing thru a pair of headphones for a long time now, and I feel it's time to splurge and get some studio monitor speakers. > >What are your opinions of self-amplified vs. non-amped speakers? > >I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 Bi-Amped monitors. I heard them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was really impressed with the sound. I also hear that JBL has some new self-amped monitors that are supposed to sound nice. > >So has anyone heard/worked with the above? I don't want to spend more than $1200 or so on monitors (including an amp if necessary) ... What's best? > >Thanks! >zs >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 20:55:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:53:59 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp >Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers rather than good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I want a pair that will both sound good but more importantly give me a pretty good idea of how my music will sound on most speakers. Any comments? I guess because speakers vary so much in the way that they sound (e.g. listen to a pair of Bose, then listen to some JBLs ... the difference is *very noticable*). So monitors are designed from the ground up to sound super-neutral, with a very linear, even frequency response. Well-designed monitors will let you hear exactly what is in your music, without the varying coloration that most home speakers add to the sound. Most studio pros have several sets of speakers they use while mixing ... the honkin' $50,000 monitors all the way down to boombox-class speakers. This way, they can come up with a 'best compromise' for their mix. Using only 1 set of consumer-level speakers may yield unexpected results when played thru a different system. For example, I used to mix with some low-end JBL so-called 'monitor' speakers and they had pretty weak bass response (as I learned). I'd take a mix into my car (which is as good of a system as I've got) and the bass would be overwhelming. Had I used something with a better, more even response curve to mix with, I'd have probably gotten better results in the car. Hope that helps, -zs ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 21:04:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Monitors & Amps Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:00:04 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Zack Steinkamp >I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 Bi-Amped monitors. I heard them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was really impressed with the sound. I also hear that JBL has some new self-amped monitors that are supposed to sound nice. You can't go wrong with the Mackies - they are amaing speakers. I didn't like the JBL self-powered speakers as much, but i last listened to a pair 6 or 8 months ago so maybe they have a new model. I settled on Event 20/20ps, partly for the price, and have been very happy indeed with them. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 21:03:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:12:18 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD you want flat weld Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers rather than good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I want a pair that will both sound good but more importantly give me a pretty good idea of how my music will sound on most speakers. Any comments? > >dan >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 22:02:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:59:26 -0700 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau The easy answer to this is to listen to your music through all the resources you have. I have my reference monitors (Mackie 824s, love 'em!), my home stereo system (Harmon-Cardon reciever w/ Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble I speakers, sounds awesome w/o EQing), my old stereo (old JVC minirack thingy, got to crank the EQs to get interesting sound), some shitty table-top Sony mini-speakers, and various headphones. If I had a tape or CD player in my car, I'd use that. Comparing is easy with the "aux-in" RCA jacks on most stereos. You're not going to get a really good idea of how your music will sound globally with just one set of speakers. In a friend of mine's studio, he mixes goth / industrial music. The difference between the 4 speakers (reference, large stereo, cheap Radio Shack, and cheap headphones) is phenomenal-- whole sections of music are lost on some speakers. Good sounding home stereo speakers add a significant degree of coloration to your music. Average boom-boxes distort the sound tremendously. Use that old boom-box or home stereo you already have in addition to a good pair of reference monitors, and I think you'll be happy. --PBr >-----Original Message----- >From: Dgerbs@aol.com [SMTP:Dgerbs@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 10:53 AM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps > >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers rather than >good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I >want a pair that will both sound good but more importantly give me a pretty >good idea of how my music will sound on most speakers. Any comments? > >dan >______________________________________________________________________ _____ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 22:34:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:03:13 EDT Subject: Re: Monitors & Amps To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com WHAT ABOUT THE TRIA- I HAVE HEARD THIS SET UP AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN DREAMING OF- ?? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 28 22:33:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:42:43 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD Peter Gabriel still uses his old boombox to reference mixes religously weld Paul Brousseau wrote: >* From Paul Brousseau > >The easy answer to this is to listen to your music through all the resources you have. I have my reference monitors (Mackie 824s, love 'em!), my home stereo system (Harmon-Cardon reciever w/ Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble I speakers, sounds awesome w/o EQing), my old stereo (old JVC minirack thingy, got to crank the EQs to get interesting sound), some shitty table-top Sony mini-speakers, and various headphones. If I had a tape or CD player in my car, I'd use that. > >Comparing is easy with the "aux-in" RCA jacks on most stereos. You're not going to get a really good idea of how your music will sound globally with just one set of speakers. In a friend of mine's studio, he mixes goth / industrial music. The difference between the 4 speakers (reference, large stereo, cheap Radio Shack, and cheap headphones) is phenomenal-- whole sections of music are lost on some speakers. > >Good sounding home stereo speakers add a significant degree of coloration to your music. Average boom-boxes distort the sound tremendously. Use that old boom-box or home stereo you already have in addition to a good pair of reference monitors, and I think you'll be happy. > >--PBr > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dgerbs@aol.com [SMTP:Dgerbs@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 10:53 AM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps >> >>* From Dgerbs@aol.com >> >>Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers rather than >>good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I >>want a pair that will both sound good but more importantly give me a pretty >>good idea of how my music will sound on most speakers. Any comments? >> >>dan >>______________________________________________________________________ _____ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 06:34:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:33:09 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: new toy Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >anyone check out the new korg e-tribes yet??? The rythm one kicks ...........! >Weld Specs look nice, demo MP3's sound nice. Just the ticket for synthetic sounding drums, and it would free up my Virus for other stuff. But I've been trying to find out if the Korg machine lets you specify a time signature, or if it is hardwired to 4/4 like the brain dead Quasimidi. Looking at the button legends makes me fear the worst. Nobody on alt.music.makers or alt.music.makers.synth seems to know... - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 00:41:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pokeweed@pipeline.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:40:53 -0400 Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pokeweed@pipeline.com Hi, I'll back you on the Tannoy recommendation. I haven't heard the Mackie's, but I've been using Tannoy 6.5's for years. I got hooked on them after working in a couple different studios that all used both the 6.5's and the 8's. The imaging on these monitors in a good room is so clear that it's sometimes disconcerting. DeDMaN >I just went through the same thing - a search for better monitors and ended up with the Mackie HR824s after listening to many, many different brands. I can't believe how good they sound and I couldn't give them a higher recommendation. >Remember - as a synth player, you are really a "speaker player." That is your acoustic instrument. >If you don't want to spend that much, the new powered Tannoy Reveals (the blue ones) also sound great. >They would be my second recommendation, but they don't give you a BIG sound like the Mackies do. > >Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 01:10:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:19:48 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: new toy Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD anyone check out the new korg e-tribes yet??? The rythm one kicks ...........! Weld Raymund Beyer wrote: >* From "Raymund Beyer" > >Hi list, > >I have just uploaded the sounds that are available from Canines page as single sounds + some new ones to my homepage at > >http://www.brainstorm-music.de > >I compiled them to 2 banks (186 sounds as Midi-file) in the .zip file and for those who how Sound Diver the same as libraries. > >Thanx to all you nice guys for the permission to do this. I think new Virus users will be glad to have a simple way of putting those lots of sounds into thier machine. > >Have a nice Easter ;-) > >Ray >----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de >http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 01:32:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:30:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From Dgerbs@aol.com >Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers rather than good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I want a pair that will both sound good but more importantly give me a pretty good idea of how my music will sound on most speakers. Any comments? >dan Yes! Why don't some DSP-buffs develop a module which emulates any "cheaper" speaker systems, specifically for use with *very* good speakers? No more nested NS10s, Control 1 or trips to the car necessary... Smaller studios might like something like that. Access? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 01:47:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:44:51 +0200 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, I also love my KRK V8's and after critical A/B'ing several types Dynaudio/Genelec/Mackie/KRK, I chose the V8's. I simply love them ! Couldn't live without them anymore ! >You might check out the KRK V8 powered monitors as well. Luscious lows, sweet mids, crisp highs. You should be able to pick up a pair for under $1,200. I really like the HR-824's, but was absolutely blown away by the V8's. Definitely worth checking out... Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 01:49:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:46:55 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/99 4:36:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, HScarr@csi.com writes: >Yes! Why don't some DSP-buffs develop a module which emulates any "cheaper" >speaker systems, specifically for use with *very* good speakers? No more nested NS10s, Control 1 or trips to the car necessary... Smaller studios might like something like that. >Access? Roland offers these "speaker models" in the VS1680 and their new digital mixers for this very purpose. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 02:07:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:05:49 -0700 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau Perhaps because that's totally convoluted. If you can afford the pristine speakers to run the module through, you can surely afford to have a pair of cheapo speakers in the studio to A/B against. The R&D costs, I think, wouldn't be worth the return. Running such a module through poor speakers won't tell you anything, the sound would be just thrown further out of whack. If you really want to emulate cheap speakers, I imagine all you'd have to do it EQ down the low and high range frequencies. Furthermore, things like listening in different rooms (like a car) is important to get a feeling of the acoustics. You're not going to get the acoustics of your Toyota in a bedroom studio, or any other studio for that matter. Nor are you going to get the feeling of headphones (things like sterio seperation show up MUCH more clearly; example: end of track 10 (Flashback) on Ministry's "Land Of Rape And Honey"). Now, emulating specific speakers might be interesting, but what's the point of that? Furthermore, it would be a next-to-impossible task, since specific speakers have specific sounds that will sound different when re-created on different speakers. I.E., a NS10 emulation would sound different on Event's, Mackie's, Tannoy's, etc, not to mention different models of Event's, Tannoy's, etc. --PBr >-----Original Message----- >From: Howard Scarr [SMTP:HScarr@csi.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 4:30 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps > >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>* From Dgerbs@aol.com >>Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers >rather >>than good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I want a pair that will both sound good but more >importantly >>give me a pretty good idea of how my music will sound on most >speakers. >>Any comments? >>dan > >Yes! Why don't some DSP-buffs develop a module which emulates any "cheaper" >speaker systems, specifically for use with *very* good speakers? No more >nested NS10s, Control 1 or trips to the car necessary... Smaller studios >might like something like that. >Access? > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 02:02:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:11:00 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD Roland has just done this very thing ds-90's i think??? Weld Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>* From Dgerbs@aol.com >>Just a question? Is there a difference in good sounding speakers rather than good reference monitors to master songs with. When I look for monitors, I want a pair that will both sound good but more importantly give me a pretty good idea of how my music will sound on most speakers. Any comments? >>dan > >Yes! Why don't some DSP-buffs develop a module which emulates any "cheaper" speaker systems, specifically for use with *very* good speakers? No more nested NS10s, Control 1 or trips to the car necessary... Smaller studios might like something like that. >Access? > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 02:19:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:17:49 -0700 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau Can you provide some more info on this? I found some speaker emulations in the effects section, but that's different from what I (and I think Howard Scarr) are referring to... As I understand it, Howard is just talking about monitoring through different sounding speakers or speaker emulations, not recording through them. OTOH, if you can use those effects on the master mix and only for playback... And BTW, I think my last post came off rather harsh-- appologies, no intent to insult! --PBr >-----Original Message----- >From: Synthworld@aol.com [SMTP:Synthworld@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 4:47 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps > >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >In a message dated 5/28/99 4:36:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, HScarr@csi.com writes: > >>Yes! Why don't some DSP-buffs develop a module which emulates any >"cheaper" >>speaker systems, specifically for use with *very* good speakers? No >more >>nested NS10s, Control 1 or trips to the car necessary... Smaller >studios >>might like something like that. >>Access? > >Roland offers these "speaker models" in the VS1680 and their new digital >mixers for this very purpose. > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 02:23:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:19:16 EDT Subject: Re: system updates To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME.. I AM TRYING TO LOAD SOME NEW SOUNDS THAT I GOT OF CANINES WEB SITE INTO MY VIRUS AND ALL I GET IS A "CHECKSUM ERROR, RECEPTION FAILED. I AM USING CAKEWALK PRO AUDIO 7. I CAN DO IT WITH MY YAMAHA CS1X BUT NOT MY VIRUS. I SLOW THE BPM TO 60 AND I CONTINUE TO GET THIS ERROR. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 02:35:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:33:45 -0700 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau D'oh! Spoke to soon, I found the info. Roland's COSM system, which works specifically with their DS-90 speakers and either the VS-1680 or -880EX. Well, I'm sure Roland's done their marketing research, so I'm probably wrong about it being a totally convoluted idea. I think it's a bit silly to have a completely seperate module to have, but as a feature on something else... that makes more sence. But I stand by my statements that the mix should be listened to in a variety of environments as well as speakers. --PBr >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Brousseau >Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 5:18 PM >To: 'access-list@teklab.com' >Subject: RE: OT: Monitors & Amps > >Can you provide some more info on this? I found some speaker emulations in the effects section, but that's different from what I (and I think Howard Scarr) are referring to... As I understand it, Howard is just talking about monitoring through different sounding speakers or speaker emulations, not recording through them. OTOH, if you can use those effects on the master mix and only for playback... > >And BTW, I think my last post came off rather harsh-- appologies, no intent to insult! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Synthworld@aol.com [SMTP:Synthworld@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 4:47 PM > To: access-list@teklab.com > Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps > > * From Synthworld@aol.com > > In a message dated 5/28/99 4:36:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > > HScarr@csi.com writes: > > > Yes! Why don't some DSP-buffs develop a module which emulates any "cheaper" > > speaker systems, specifically for use with *very* good speakers? No more > > nested NS10s, Control 1 or trips to the car necessary... Smaller studios > > might like something like that. > > Access? > > Roland offers these "speaker models" in the VS1680 and their new digital > mixers for this very purpose. > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 03:16:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dylan@pixar.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:43:14 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dylan@pixar.com 20/20 bas's rock! especially with a Virus pumping through them... =) On May 29, 1:28am, Bilbo Bagginz wrote: >Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps >* From Bilbo Bagginz > >You should definitely check out a pair of Event 20/20 bas powered monitors against the Mackie HR-824's. >I love 'em. > >Bilbo Bagginz > >-- >http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- End of excerpt from Bilbo Bagginz -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 03:25:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:21:33 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/99 5:24:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, PaulBr@mosaix.com writes: >Can you provide some more info on this? I found some speaker emulations >in the effects section, but that's different from what I (and I think Howard Scarr) are referring to... As I understand it, Howard is just talking about monitoring through different sounding speakers or speaker emulations, not recording through them. OTOH, if you can use those effects on the master mix and only for playback... The purpose of the Roland speaker models IS for monitoring, not recording through them. As many people know, it is really handy to listen to your recordings on as many different speakers as possible and this is the whole idea of the Roland speaker models. For example, the last film project I worked on was a direct-to-video movie and I found it extremely useful to check my work on a TV speaker, since this is where 99.9% of the people will be hearing it. This immediately told me to back off a bit on the midrange and the funny thing is - after doing this, the music sounded even better on larger speakers. Very handy. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 06:20:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:17:13 EDT Subject: Important question (for me) To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com I am planning on buying a Virus Keyboard when it is available and my main concern is this: I want to record the virus via midi onto my Korg trinity. In doing this, will the trinity and the Virus work well together or will I run into any problems as far as patch calling is concerned. If I load a song into my trinity, will the virus respond accordingly via midi or am I going to have to reset patches and parts etc.. My goal is to play live electronic music but I need tracks playing with me on the sequencer. Buying a synth to accompany me is vital and I need to think through any problems that may arise. Any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 08:13:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Re : monitors Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:08:42 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi, I sent this to Generator list, thirty seconds before reading your question. ---- >At the same price, a pair of Hi-Fi speaker sound better than a pair of Studio monitor. I went this way too. My near-field monitors are Kef Q15, have 6" driver & coaxial tweeter for *sharp* stereo imaging and detail, particularly in the ultra-near field. I had a small bedroom at my last flat, not much space to spread the monitors out. I tested the Kefs with 'listening triangles' smaller than 1.5 m, and still got good stereo imaging. Aside from that, the bass is good, they go well loud before losing quality, they can be bi-wired or -amped, they're magnetically shielded, etc etc. I chose these after listening to Event 20/20, Alesis Monitor 1, and mid-size JBLs. The Event had similar sound quality but the other two seemed deficient to me. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 08:44:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Gert van Santen" To: Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:41:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gert van Santen" > >Peter Gabriel still uses his old boombox to reference mixes religously weld > By the way, Peter Gabriel. Just the other day I heard someone speak about an article on him in one of the forthcoming music mags, but I forgot which one. Any ideas? Thanks, Gert ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 09:12:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: VirusMPC@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 03:10:40 EDT Subject: Editor/Librarian Programs To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From VirusMPC@aol.com Can anyone give me a suggestion for an Editor/Librarian program that is meant to work with the Virus? Thanks! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 07:23:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:25:54 +0200 From: Dimitri Sijperda X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: system updates Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! At first, try to download the file again. Don't use netscape. I seems to have happened once that it f**ked up the file, though I never had problemd with that. . I believe cakewalk had some problems with uploading virus sysex. Not sure though. There's an o other programm, jazz++ http://www.jazzware.com/ Which works on linux, win95, winNT. Maybe this helps. Ohyeah, please don't uses caps-lock. It wakes up my neighbours at this time of the morning. ;-) CU! Dimitri. Jeffkoval@aol.com wrote: >* From Jeffkoval@aol.com > >SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME.. > >I AM TRYING TO LOAD SOME NEW SOUNDS THAT I GOT OF CANINES WEB SITE INTO MY VIRUS AND ALL I GET IS > >A "CHECKSUM ERROR, RECEPTION FAILED. I AM USING CAKEWALK PRO AUDIO 7. I CAN DO IT WITH MY YAMAHA CS1X BUT NOT MY VIRUS. I SLOW THE BPM TO 60 AND I CONTINUE TO GET THIS ERROR. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 17:11:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:11:59 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Important question (for me) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:17 AM +0200 on 29.05.1999 Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >In doing this, will the trinity and the Virus work well together or will I run into any problems as far as patch calling is concerned. If I load a song into my trinity, will the virus respond accordingly via midi or am I going to have to reset patches and parts etc.. well some sequencers are unable to select banks (MPC-2000) in their track config, which is really annoying. The MPC calls up the right patch but in a random bank. Other than that I couln't really see much that could go wrong. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 17:11:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:13:32 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Editor/Librarian Programs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:10 AM +0200 on 29.05.1999 VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: >Can anyone give me a suggestion for an Editor/Librarian program that is meant to work with the Virus? Thanks! SoundDiver does it. THe interface is clumsy but as a librarian it works really great. When you are trying to use it with many different machines, it becomes a bit tedious and unreliable. it's around $250 I believe. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 17:11:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:17:18 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I just bought myself a pair of Genelec 1030. I don't use the sub since I am working in a bedroom studio. I like the sound and I like their imaging. I got them used for an offer I couldn't refuse. I don't regret it. Before that I used a combination of JBL control one (the ones with *no* bass response) and hifi speakers. The control one are a really great alternative to expensive speakers. Only thing: they have no bass response, whatsoever. But they are very clear in imaging and if you get used to their quirks (use different stereos, headphones, studios, etc. to compare) they are the best bang for a buck (and they don't really cost much more than that) you can get. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 02:33:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:28:41 -0700 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz You should definitely check out a pair of Event 20/20 bas powered monitors against the Mackie HR-824's. I love 'em. Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 10:45:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Monitors & Amps Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:42:08 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi Zack, I do own the Dynaudio Acoustic BM-15. An Europian studio speaker. They are unbelievable. Other Dynaudio Acoustic speakers are used by many known artist/producers like: The Progidy, Trever Horn ect. But I do not known if they are out there in the VS. Speakers is also something personal of course. Regards, Rob Papen -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Zack Steinkamp Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 28 mei 1999 19:47 Onderwerp: OT: Monitors & Amps |* From Zack Steinkamp | |This is kind of off topic, but I wanted to get some educated opinions on |studio monitors... | |I've been mixing thru a pair of headphones for a long time now, and I |feel it's time to splurge and get some studio monitor speakers. | |What are your opinions of self-amplified vs. non-amped speakers? | |I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 Bi-Amped monitors. I heard |them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was really impressed with the |sound. I also hear that JBL has some new self-amped monitors that are |supposed to sound nice. | |So has anyone heard/worked with the above? I don't want to spend more |than $1200 or so on monitors (including an amp if necessary) ... What's |best? | |Thanks! |zs |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 16:41:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 03:45:54 -0700 From: Eric Harder To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Editor/Librarian Programs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Eric Harder I sure dig my Sound Diver! Caution! It may send you into a synth module buying binge!!! VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: >* From VirusMPC@aol.com > >Can anyone give me a suggestion for an Editor/Librarian program that is meant to work with the Virus? Thanks! >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 13:01:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Martin Selway" To: Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:57:27 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Selway" Working at a TV station I can only say that if you knew how many limiters, compressors, Dolby, convertors, etc, the music from a final mix or CD will go through from when it arrives in a video editing suite until it ends up at your TV loudspeakers at home, you'd cry! And when you do get the mix right, there's a narration on top of the music :-) MARTIN ----- Original Message ----- >For example, the last film project I worked on was a direct-to-video movie and I found it extremely useful to check my work on a TV speaker, since this >is where 99.9% of the people will be hearing it. This immediately told me to >back off a bit on the midrange and the funny thing is - after doing this, the >music sounded even better on larger speakers. Very handy. > >Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 14:23:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:30:51 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com, rpieket@best.com Subject: Re: new toy Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD yes, definable time sig, per pattern cheers weld Ronald Pieket wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > >>anyone check out the new korg e-tribes yet??? The rythm one kicks ...........! >>Weld > >Specs look nice, demo MP3's sound nice. Just the ticket for synthetic sounding drums, and it would free up my Virus for other stuff. But I've been trying to find out if the Korg machine lets you specify a time signature, or if it is hardwired to 4/4 like the brain dead Quasimidi. Looking at the button legends makes me fear the worst. Nobody on alt.music.makers or alt.music.makers.synth seems to know... > >- Ronald. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 14:26:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:35:02 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD Havnt heard much lately on him, his new album has been delayed forever!! Weld Gert van Santen wrote: >* From "Gert van Santen" > >> >>Peter Gabriel still uses his old boombox to reference mixes religously weld >> > >By the way, Peter Gabriel. Just the other day I heard someone speak about an article on him in one of the forthcoming music mags, but I forgot which one. Any ideas? > >Thanks, Gert > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 14:27:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:36:19 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Editor/Librarian Programs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD If you use Logic or cubase there are some free profiles on canines page weld VirusMPC@aol.com wrote: >* From VirusMPC@aol.com > >Can anyone give me a suggestion for an Editor/Librarian program that is meant to work with the Virus? Thanks! >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 14:28:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:37:14 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD Rob and list were just starting to see dyna audio here in the states Weld Rob Papen wrote: >* From "Rob Papen" > >Hi Zack, > >I do own the Dynaudio Acoustic BM-15. >An Europian studio speaker. > >They are unbelievable. >Other Dynaudio Acoustic speakers are used by many known artist/producers like: >The Progidy, Trever Horn ect. > >But I do not known if they are out there in the VS. > >Speakers is also something personal of course. > >Regards, > >Rob Papen > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Zack Steinkamp >Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 28 mei 1999 19:47 >Onderwerp: OT: Monitors & Amps > >|* From Zack Steinkamp | >|This is kind of off topic, but I wanted to get some educated opinions on |studio monitors... >| >|I've been mixing thru a pair of headphones for a long time now, and I |feel it's time to splurge and get some studio monitor speakers. | >|What are your opinions of self-amplified vs. non-amped speakers? | >|I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 Bi-Amped monitors. I heard |them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was really impressed with the |sound. I also hear that JBL has some new self-amped monitors that are |supposed to sound nice. >| >|So has anyone heard/worked with the above? I don't want to spend more |than $1200 or so on monitors (including an amp if necessary) ... What's |best? >| >|Thanks! >|zs >|___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | >| > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 16:11:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:10:46 +0200 From: nearlygod X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus Bug? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From nearlygod I get load popnoises when I use the vocoder in multimode. When I disable this part, everything is quiet. I experienced this with 2.51, but I didn`t tried again with 2.5 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 18:23:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:20:40 EDT Subject: Re: Editor/Librarian Programs To: access-list@teklab.com, VirusMPC@aol.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 5/29/99 2:16:59 AM, VirusMPC@AOL.COM writes: >Can anyone give me a suggestion for an Editor/Librarian program that is meant to work with the Virus? Thanks! EMagic Sound Diver -Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 30 01:32:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:31:09 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >*IS* the QM 309 really only "playable" with a 4/4 rhythm? Yes. >i didn't know that.. must suck a bit i presume. It does. You can select the number of bars in a pattern, but a bar is always four beats. I found that out after I bought it. I asked Quasimidi about it and they explained that the unit was aimed at the dance music market. Apparently, in Germany, nobody can, or is allowed to, dance to an odd beat. >hmm.. what to do? I thought the 606, 707, 808, 909 had at least SOME variety to them, but not too much, and certainly not freely editable, right ? As far as time signatures is concerned, all x0x will allow you to specify the number of steps in a pattern - in effect the time signature. Some sounds are editable on the 808 and 909, but of course not to the extent as on the Korg Electribe*R. Besides, the 808 and 909 are far too expensive nowadays. The Korg is around $380. You can hear the Korg at http://www.drummachine.org/ - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 20:50:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Bass Drum squelch Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 11:45:03 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" So any thoughts from Access on why drum sounds seem more sensitive than others? I'm pretty sure voice-stealing isn't the issue here, but I'd love to sort this out - realtime modification of kick sounds especially sounds good in trance, and it's not nearly as much fun on my sampler as it is on the Virus. It would certainly aid live performances.... Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 20:50:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Gating? Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 11:45:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" When you have sounds coming in the inputs (or from another channel) to filtered, you can have the input static or dynamic, where the input is only allowed through as a note plays. A fun variation on this would be to set input to static but modulate the patch volume with the inverse of the amp envelope. This way you would get the filtered input going through the patch but it would cut out every time a note was played (so you could send a snare pattern to both your snare drum and the 'gate' and have your pad or sample be gated by the snare rhythm). This is basically just a sidechain. But I can't do this. Although I can alter the volume of the input signal with the Osc Vol knob, if I modulate with an envelope (or use LFO 1 in envelope mode to kill the volume every time a note is played) it doesn't seem to work. I've tried slower LFO rates and all sorts of other things, but none of them audibly close the gate in time with the notes I play. I even tried mapping to patch and channel volume but still no luck. Can someone explain why? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 22:53:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:49:28 EDT Subject: Virus keyboard VS. Waldorf XT keyboard To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com How would you compare te XT versus the Virus all around??? Is te XT keyboard less expensive than the Virus keyboard? Both the virus and the XT are about the same price right now but i haven't played an XT. Which is better for techno/trance? Thanks Dan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 29 23:05:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: mango@mail.gelrevision.nl Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:04:41 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: joel Subject: time signatures (was Re:new toy) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From joel *IS* the QM 309 really only "playable" with a 4/4 rhythm? i didn't know that.. must suck a bit i presume. creating other time signatures would be a very cool feature i think.. hmm.. what to do? I thought the 606, 707, 808, 909 had at least SOME variety to them, but not too much, and certainly not freely editable, right ? I personally am looking for a good drummachine with an "easy" sequencer, but i'd also like it if you can create a lot of diff. timesignatures.. any opinions out there how to bypass this? do OTHER --seperate-- hardware or software sequencers have "that" feature anyway? all in all i guess it probably sucks if it's just and only 4/4 , or not? >>>Specs look nice, demo MP3's sound nice. Just the ticket for synthetic >>sounding >>>drums, and it would free up my Virus for other stuff. But I've been trying to >>>find out if the Korg machine lets you specify a time signature, or if it is >>>hardwired to 4/4 like the brain dead Quasimidi. Looking at the button legends >>>makes me fear the worst. Nobody on alt.music.makers or alt.music.makers.synth >>>seems to know... >>> >>>- Ronald. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 30 01:38:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:36:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >...specific speakers have specific sounds that will sound different when re-created on different speakers. I.E., a NS10 emulation would sound different on Event's, Mackie's, Tannoy's, etc, not to mention different models of Event's, Tannoy's, etc. Yes - of course the most important parameter(s) would be the frequency response curve of your "good" speakers. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 30 01:57:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Gating? Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:57:25 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >A fun variation on this would be to set input to static but modulate the patch volume with the inverse of the amp envelope. There's no "trigger" from the keyboard in static mode. This becomes obvious when you try ENV MODE on the LFOs - doesn't work. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 30 16:31:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 10:38:33 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD Ronald Pieket wrote: >is around $380. You can hear the Korg at http://www.drummachine.org/ > >- Ronald. Great page by the way!!! weld ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 30 20:12:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:10:04 EDT Subject: Re: system updates To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com what do you mean about the caps lock????? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 00:06:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:03:30 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Monitors & Amps Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Zack, I've had my sights on the Mackie HR-824's as well. From what I heard, they give the most accurate representation of an actual mix. However, I know people who like the Event 20/20's (which I am more familiar with). These are quite nice. The JBL's are fine, but not my faves. DTM. Zack Steinkamp wrote: >* From Zack Steinkamp > >This is kind of off topic, but I wanted to get some educated opinions on studio monitors... > >I've been mixing thru a pair of headphones for a long time now, and I feel it's time to splurge and get some studio monitor speakers. > >What are your opinions of self-amplified vs. non-amped speakers? > >I'm looking (drooling) at the Mackie HR-824 Bi-Amped monitors. I heard them briefly in a noisy Guitar Center, and was really impressed with the sound. I also hear that JBL has some new self-amped monitors that are supposed to sound nice. > >So has anyone heard/worked with the above? I don't want to spend more than $1200 or so on monitors (including an amp if necessary) ... What's best? > >Thanks! >zs >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 00:28:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:25:56 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Important question (for me) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Daniel, This is no problem. The Virus uses multimode for playing back multiple tracks/patches simultaniously. Each multimode "patch" is actually a collection of 16 single sounds. All you have to do is construct a multimode "patch" with the sounds in order according to the tracks on the Trinity. For example, tracks 2, 5, and 8 on the Trinity triggers the Virus patch locations 2, 5, and 8 in a specific multimode patch. This way, you save a multimode patch for each sequence on the Trinity. All you have to do is assign blank or silent patches to the tracks on the Trinity's sequencer meant for the Virus (otherwise, you'll get layered sounds--which may not be too bad sometimes). When you wish to playback a sequence, simply set the Virus to the corresponding multimode "patch" and go. Unless you're just getting your feet wet, seriously look into a software sequencer. DTM. Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >I am planning on buying a Virus Keyboard when it is available and my main concern is this: I want to record the virus via midi onto my Korg trinity. In doing this, will the trinity and the Virus work well together or will I run into any problems as far as patch calling is concerned. If I load a song into my trinity, will the virus respond accordingly via midi or am I going to have to reset patches and parts etc.. >My goal is to play live electronic music but I need tracks playing with me on the sequencer. Buying a synth to accompany me is vital and I need to think through any problems that may arise. Any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Daniel >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 02:30:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:20:12 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: fx processors.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 05:24 PM 5/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >* From Cyngus Cyngus hey..... i am looking for some fx boxes... i have had my heart set on the mpx100 it sounds very nice.. i hear the reverb in it is nice.... but now i am lookin at teh q20 and it also seems nice hehe... i was wondering how they compare is sound quality.... which would u all recomend to use with the virus??... I have an Alesis Wedge sitting right next to my Virus and have found it to be an excellent companion - mostly because its got a great effects engine (throw away the presets though), but also significantly because it's also table-top like the Virus, with sliders that can be used to tweak parameters in realtime. There's a lot of fun in being able to dynamically change effects (delay times, gates, etc) while playing with your virus. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Software Developer : http://www.teklab.com TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 02:21:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: fx processors.... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus hey..... i am looking for some fx boxes... i have had my heart set on the mpx100 it sounds very nice.. i hear the reverb in it is nice.... but now i am lookin at teh q20 and it also seems nice hehe... i was wondering how they compare is sound quality.... which would u all recomend to use with the virus??... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 02:44:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jasmasi@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:41:03 EDT Subject: Tempo Sync To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasmasi@aol.com This may be a redundant question, but I'm new to the list. I use Cubase with my Virus, and am having problems getting the Virus to sync to the tempo set in Cubase. I have the MIDI ClockRx set to Auto, but it isn't receiving the tempo. I also have Cubase sending MIDI Clock info. to the Virus, so I'm kind of confused. Is there a setting that I'm overlooking? Thanks in advance for any help. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 08:53:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:28:41 -0700 From: Eric Harder To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: fx processors.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Eric Harder I've had a Q2 for a couple of years, and it's been adequate. This year I got an Eventide H3000-D/SE. If it weren't for the fact that you can't get more than a couple hundred bucks out of a used Q2, it'd be gone. The Alesis was a nice "beginner's" effects box though. -E Cyngus Cyngus wrote: >* From Cyngus Cyngus > >hey..... i am looking for some fx boxes... i have had my heart set on the mpx100 it sounds very nice.. i hear the reverb in it is nice.... but now i am lookin at teh q20 and it also seems nice hehe... i was wondering how they compare is sound quality.... which would u all recomend to use with the virus??... > >_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 07:43:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 01:41:01 EDT Subject: Re: system updates - update To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com i tried your suggestion. i downloaded jazzware, then i re downloaded all the zipped patches. i used jazzware to install the 2.51 operating system and it worked great.. however when i went to try and install the new patches into "b" i get that same stupid "checksum error"? reception failed.?? please help. thank you ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 09:17:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:15:41 -0400 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: fx processors.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore the mpx 100 is as clean as it gets but you cant really edit it too well.. but for under 200 bucks u cant beat it. check the features.. digital i/o , 20 or 24??? bit processing, price, cleanliness, multi effects, etc... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 11:46:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Gerald Thomson" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:44:15 PDT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Gerald Thomson" You could take a look at the Boss Dr. Rhythm DR-770. It got a good review in FM, but then again... FM... Also the new Zoom machines are worth a look. The Zoomtrak 123 is cheap (Ģ150), and has good sounds. But no MIDI Out. The ZoomTrak 234 is a bit more pro, but only costs Ģ200 I think. And it's got all the necessary connectors. All three units have a dedicated drum-sequencer in them, which I believe you can synchronize to an external sequencer. And they're small and portable. >*IS* the QM 309 really only "playable" with a 4/4 rhythm? i didn't know that.. >must suck a bit i presume. creating other time signatures would be a very cool feature i think.. > >hmm.. what to do? I thought the 606, 707, 808, 909 had at least SOME variety to them, but not too much, and certainly not freely editable, right ? > >I personally am looking for a good drummachine with an "easy" sequencer, but i'd also like it if you can create a lot of diff. timesignatures.. > >any opinions out there how to bypass this? do OTHER --seperate-- hardware or software sequencers have "that" feature anyway? > >all in all i guess it probably sucks if it's just and only 4/4 , or not? > > >>>>Specs look nice, demo MP3's sound nice. Just the ticket for synthetic >>>sounding >>>>drums, and it would free up my Virus for other stuff. But I've been >trying to >>>>find out if the Korg machine lets you specify a time signature, or if >it is >>>>hardwired to 4/4 like the brain dead Quasimidi. Looking at the button >legends >>>>makes me fear the worst. Nobody on alt.music.makers or >alt.music.makers.synth >>>>seems to know... >>>> >>>>- Ronald. >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 18:57:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:55:30 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Gerald Thomson wrote: >You could take a look at the Boss Dr. Rhythm DR-770. It got a good review in FM, but then again... FM... >Also the new Zoom machines are worth a look. The Zoomtrak 123 is cheap (Ģ150), and has good sounds. But no MIDI Out. The ZoomTrak 234 is a bit more pro, but only costs Ģ200 I think. And it's got all the necessary connectors. All three units have a dedicated drum-sequencer in them, which I believe you can synchronize to an external sequencer. And they're small and portable. I currently own a Boss DR770, and an old Yamaha RY30, and I *still* find myself reaching for the Virus for drum sounds. You see, I *like* synthetic sounding drums. Boing, boom-tschak. The DR770 is nice, but the sound editing is inflexible: no filters, no control over the attack envelope. But at least it has a decent choice of analog hihats, including the CR78 pfft-pfft. The RY30 has filters, attack and decay control, very flexible. But still no patch on the Virus. So I'm still looking for a *flexible* drum sequencer, and *flexible* synthetic sounds in the same box. Virus (as drum box): great sounds, but no sequencer. DR770: ok-ish sequencer, but predictable, uneditable sounds. RY30: nice sequencer, ok-ish sounds. At least on paper, the Korg sounds like it could be just the ticket. But after my disappointing experience with the QM309, I thought I'd stay away from any "groove" type products. As far as I can see, these machines are designed to make everybody sound the same, to force everybody to make the same music. It seemed at first that the Korg was on the same bandwagon. "Brothers, sisters, we don't need this fascist groove thang." (Heaven 17) - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 19:08:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:07:02 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Rackmount for beginners Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket >I lost all my threads from this list and I know that has been discussed. Are there any final tips for rackmounting the virus ? To recap: (1) Try to find an official Virus rackmount kit, sold separately. (1a) Failing that, use duct tape. (2) You must put the Virus at the top of the rack, or leave enough space between it and the item above it, to fit the power and MIDI plugs. (2a) Try to find MIDI cables with angled plugs, this limits the wasted space to one rack unit. (3) No prizes go to Access for the design of the Virus casing. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 11:34:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:31:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Bug? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com MIME:nearlygod@wtal.de on 29/05/99 17:24:03 To: access-list@teklab.com @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Steven De Mesmaker/AIQ/CT/ATLAS COPCO) Subject: Virus Bug? * From nearlygod >I get load popnoises when I use the vocoder in multimode. When I disable this part, everything is quiet. >I experienced this with 2.51, but I didn`t tried again with 2.5 I have the same problem. My Virus produces 'clics' when the vocoder is active in multimode... greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 12:36:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: dimi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:04:38 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Clicking noise (Re: Virus Bug?) WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From dimi@dds.nl Hello! Yes, I know the problem. I thought access knew about this too. I once discussed this with Christoph, he said that it was because of the vocoder taking much processor capacity while doing nothing or something. He also said it would be fixed in the next OS. I haven't updated yet (sorry, no time...), so I don't know if the problem still exists in OS 2.51. Do you have this OS? Try this: Turn off the patch that is set to vocoder (set it on a non-vocoder patch). The clicking should disappear. But that doesn't solve the problem when you want to use the vocoder with other patches..... :-( By the way, it's not the only time I have clicking noise. But I can't trace other couses yet. And it not as much as with the vocoder luckily. Dimitri. steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com schreef: >* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com> MIME:nearlygod@wtal.de on 29/05/99 17:24:03 To: access-list@teklab.com @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Steven De Mesmaker/AIQ/CT/ATLAS COPCO) >Subject: Virus Bug? > >* From nearlygod > > > >>I get load popnoises when I use the vocoder in multimode. When I disable this >>part, everything is quiet. >>I experienced this with 2.51, but I didn`t tried again with 2.5 > > >I have the same problem. >My Virus produces 'clics' when the vocoder is active in multimode... > > >greetings, > >Steven > >___________________________________________________________ ________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 14:27:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:36:15 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: time signatures (was Re:new toy) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD One thing here........... the korgs use synthesis to produce drum sounds, and is quite honestly fresh sounding, ive heard so many sampled drum sounds the last years i could puke! weld Gerald Thomson wrote: >* From "Gerald Thomson" > >You could take a look at the Boss Dr. Rhythm DR-770. It got a good review in FM, but then again... FM... >Also the new Zoom machines are worth a look. The Zoomtrak 123 is cheap (Ģ150), and has good sounds. But no MIDI Out. The ZoomTrak 234 is a bit more pro, but only costs Ģ200 I think. And it's got all the necessary connectors. All three units have a dedicated drum-sequencer in them, which I believe you can synchronize to an external sequencer. And they're small and portable. > >>*IS* the QM 309 really only "playable" with a 4/4 rhythm? i didn't know that.. >>must suck a bit i presume. creating other time signatures would be a very cool feature i think.. >> >>hmm.. what to do? I thought the 606, 707, 808, 909 had at least SOME variety to them, but not too much, and certainly not freely editable, right ? >> >>I personally am looking for a good drummachine with an "easy" sequencer, but i'd also like it if you can create a lot of diff. timesignatures.. >> >>any opinions out there how to bypass this? do OTHER --seperate-- hardware or software sequencers have "that" feature anyway? >> >>all in all i guess it probably sucks if it's just and only 4/4 , or not? >> >> >>>>>Specs look nice, demo MP3's sound nice. Just the ticket for synthetic >>>>sounding >>>>>drums, and it would free up my Virus for other stuff. But I've been >>trying to >>>>>find out if the Korg machine lets you specify a time signature, or if >>it is >>>>>hardwired to 4/4 like the brain dead Quasimidi. Looking at the button >>legends >>>>>makes me fear the worst. Nobody on alt.music.makers or >>alt.music.makers.synth >>>>>seems to know... >>>>> >>>>>- Ronald. >>> >>> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 16:46:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:21:36 EDT Subject: Compressors? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dgerbs@aol.com Do you all use a compressor with your Virus when playing live? If so, what are some good inexpensive compressors? Thanks Dan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 19:02:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:59:19 +0200 Subject: Re: Compressors? From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >Do you all use a compressor with your Virus when playing live? If so, what are some good inexpensive compressors? Thanks Dan The Behringer stuff sounds quite good and also are not very expensive. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 17:08:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:15:41 -0400 From: WELD To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Compressors? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From WELD only on some bass patches in the studio try the RNC "really nice compresor" dbx is OK as well as behringer weld >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >Do you all use a compressor with your Virus when playing live? If so, what are some good inexpensive compressors? Thanks Dan >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 17:31:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:29:22 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Compressors? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:21 PM +0200 on 31.05.1999 Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >Do you all use a compressor with your Virus when playing live? If so, what are some good inexpensive compressors? Thanks Dan I use the built in compressors of my 01v Yamaha mixer in the studio. Live I sometimes use an Alesis nanoCompressor, but more for limiting than anything else. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 18:17:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:15:28 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Compressors? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Dan, The dbx 266XL dual compressor/gate is good at about $150. DTM. Dgerbs@aol.com wrote: >* From Dgerbs@aol.com > >Do you all use a compressor with your Virus when playing live? If so, what are some good inexpensive compressors? Thanks Dan >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 18:30:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:30:07 +0200 From: Unkas Gemmeker X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Rackmount for beginners Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker I lost all my threads from this list and I know that has been discussed. Are there any final tips for rackmounting the virus ? Thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 19:20:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: time signatures (was Re:new toy) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:15:40 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Ronald Pieket wrote... >Apparently, in Germany, nobody can, or is allowed to, dance to an odd beat. "Access Electronics company shut down for non-orthodox rhythmic approach." Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 19:20:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Gating? Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:15:42 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Howard Scarr wrote... >There's no "trigger" from the keyboard in static mode. This becomes obvious when you try ENV MODE on the LFOs - doesn't work. Exactly my conclusion. This is a real shame; while I could understand the amp envelope being bypassed it would be nice to still have modulation control of the patch volume. dynamic input is cool, proper gating would be even cooler. Any hope of this in the future, Access wizards? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 19:20:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: system updates Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:15:43 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Jeff Koval asked... >what do you mean about the caps lock????? TYPING YOUR WHOLE MESSAGE IN CAPITALS IS CONSIDERED "EMAIL SHOUTING". It's kind of a pain to read :) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 21:14:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:24:13 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Compressors? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >I use the built in compressors of my 01v Yamaha mixer in the studio. Live I sometimes use an Alesis nanoCompressor, but more for limiting than anything else. I've got a 03d mixer since a few weeks and I find myself compressing (or gating or...) nearly every channel! It's great. I've also got a dbx 266a, a great compressor. Very punchy sound. I planned on selling it, but i'm not too sure I actually will; its sound is quite different from the yamaha digital thingies. Compressors are great... Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 20:35:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:32:28 -0700 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Rackmount for beginners Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM I rackmounted my Virus (after the long wait for the rack ear plate) and put it in one of those SKB 12U pop-up mixer cases along with a Mackie 1402 VLZ. Everything fits quite nicely. Virus is on top so plugs can easily stick out beyond the top of the rack frame when in the fully upright position. I just unplug the Virus' MIDI, audio in, out, and power, collapse the rack, put the lid on and go on the road. DTM. Unkas Gemmeker wrote: >* From Unkas Gemmeker > >I lost all my threads from this list and I know that has been discussed. > >Are there any final tips for rackmounting the virus ? Thanks > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 22:22:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:07:39 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Re: fx processors.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther Hi! You should have a look at the Boss SE-70. I looked at lots of FX-units, but this one is the 'warmest' sounding one. The reverbs are great, the phaser rocks, and the guitar-patches sound like played with a good amp. Imagine what you could do to your virus with these... The unit was about 500$, but you should get a used one for less! Martin mz_mail@gmx.de URL: www.mzuther.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 23:48:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:45:53 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Tempo Sync Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp when you press Play in Cubase, do you see a little clock icon appear on the Virus' LCD display? - make sure you're sending MIDI clock, not MIDI Time Code - make sure MIDI clock is going to the appropriate MIDI port - the tempo setting in the display won't change based on the tempo Cubase is sending. To test, turn on Cubase's 'click' to get the 1/4 note beats, then dial up an arpeggiated patch on the Virus and press a key on the click. If it's syncing up, the click and arpeggiated sound will be on the same time. Good Luck! -zs >This may be a redundant question, but I'm new to the list. I use Cubase with my Virus, and am having problems getting the Virus to sync to the tempo set in Cubase. I have the MIDI ClockRx set to Auto, but it isn't receiving the tempo. I also have Cubase sending MIDI Clock info. to the Virus, so I'm kind of confused. Is there a setting that I'm overlooking? Thanks in advance for any help. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 23:51:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:49:30 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: fx processors.... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp I have an MPX 100, and am pretty happy with it. It has a digital output (SP/DIF Coax) only (no digital inputs) ... but my favorite thing about it in terms of value is that you can set it up to do *dual* effects, e.g. the Right input goes to reverb, and the left to Chorus, with a stereo mix of the two coming out the outputs. With my cheap 2-bus mixer (mackie 1202VLZPro) it works very well. I'm very happy with it so far, but have only compared it with my friend's Alesis Quadraverb (which was really meant for guitars anyhow)... -zs >the mpx 100 is as clean as it gets but you cant really edit it too well.. >but for under 200 bucks u cant beat it. check the features.. digital i/o , 20 or 24??? bit processing, price, cleanliness, multi effects, etc... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 23:52:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:50:54 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Rackmount for beginners Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Zack Steinkamp Guitar Center can order rack ears for the Virus for ~$25 ... Alan in the San Jose, CA (US) store knows how to get them. -zs >>I lost all my threads from this list and I know that has been discussed. Are there any final tips for rackmounting the virus ? > >To recap: (1) Try to find an official Virus rackmount kit, sold separately. (1a) Failing that, use duct tape. (2) You must put the Virus at the top of the rack, or leave enough space between it and the item above it, to fit the power and MIDI plugs. (2a) Try to find MIDI cables with angled plugs, this limits the wasted space to one rack unit. (3) No prizes go to Access for the design of the Virus casing. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 31 23:58:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeffkoval@aol.com Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:56:14 EDT Subject: Re: system updates To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeffkoval@aol.com sorry,, i asked my brother who works at microsoft what you meant, and he said, "it is like driving around with you headlights on high" sorry .. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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