X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 1 10:45:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 04:44:28 EDT Subject: VIRUS-SYNC * From: Grossin I use the Virus-system v. 1.52, Logic-Audio on PC and a MOTU-MIDI-Express XT. In this version the Virus should be able to sync via MIDI. But when I start Logic the arppegiator plays nearly the double tempo. after stopping Logic the Virus stays in this tempo allthough it views the tempo that was programmed.What can I do? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 1 19:02:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:01:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: VIRUS-SYNC * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Grossin > >I use the Virus-system v. 1.52, Logic-Audio on PC and a MOTU-MIDI-Express XT. In this version the Virus should be able to sync via MIDI. But when I start Logic the arppegiator plays nearly the double tempo. after stopping Logic the Virus stays in this tempo allthough it views the tempo that was programmed.What can I do? >********** ********** Do you have the arpeggiator set to send its notes via MIDI? If so, try turning this off. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 2 17:31:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 17:33:20 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: bug? * From: "Marcel Engels" Strange isn't? First I come up with a question and now, I think I have some kind of answer to the problem (see below). When soft-thru is set to off then it works perfectly, no lock-ups whatsoever. However, when I turn on the soft-thru, and I have 2 other synths behind it, then this problem (see below) begins. I must buy a midi out box anyway, so I can put the Virus at the end of the chain. Have anyone else had this problem, or don't you use soft-thru and use other synths behind the Virus? >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >A lot of times when I'm in Multi mode (using computer etc for sequencing) and I'm pressing the Single button then everything locks up. The Multi led stays on and the Single- led is blinking. >When turning off and on the power again, I get, as normally, V 1,52 and then nothing (not normally). I cannot choose sounds or go to Multi. >What I must do then is press the panic button (LFO1,2 shape together) and then everything works fine again........until I go to Multi again and switch back to Single. I have this 'problem' almost 8 out of 10 times. I don't recall having this with V1.51, although I must say I only have the Virus for about 1.5 months. > >btw: I was suprised there isn't a foot-switch input. Would have been neat, when playing with the arpeggiator - freeze the sequence with the footpedal and then transpose the pattern with your keyboard. Ah, can't have everything!! (not that I use it much btw) > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 2 22:37:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:28:19 +0200 Subject: sysex multi * From: molter Hi! How can I dump my current multi? Everytime I try to dump it to cakewalk and send it back only the multi NAME is transmitted correctly, the PARTS seem to be unchanged... BTW I'm using V 1.51. Thanks Christian ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 3 06:46:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 21:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Arpeggiator * From: Tim Anderson Hi, I'm new to the list, and I've been looking at the options as far as "virtual analog" synths, or even analogs.. Although there are some sonic differences, due to the way I work, I decided upon a virtual analog so all the knobs have MIDI cc's, etc. In any case, I've read the FAQ and I want to thank those who helped write it for the information that it provided, but I am curious about the Virus' Arpeggiator... Is it single channel only? Does it send its notes MIDI out? Are there user programmable arpeggios? Currently I have a studio that mainly revolves around my K2000... A truely wonderful beast, and even though I like the filter algorithms (programmed in part by Bob Moog himself) of the K2000, I want something that is even fatter. For example, on the k2000 you have 3 module blocks, and though you can have a controllable lowpass resonant filter, it has to be algorithms one and two which prevents me from using a DSP sawtooth module so I have to rely on samples which leads to clicking when using portamento, even with carefully filtered patches... How does the virus handle portamento? Does it use samples for its "analog" waveforms thereby giving the above problem, or does it use dsp algorithms to simulate these waveforms? Any help will be appreciated.. As of the 10th I should be able to check one out at a local shop to see for myself.. Its either this, a Nord Lead, or the JP8000, or an AN1X.. The AN1x, though I believe its more powerful than the jp8000, simply does not have the realtime control I crave.. And the JP8000 is a bit limited, and doesnt have any patches that piece right through me. BTW I do techno/industrial/drum'n'bass/ambient music, in the likes of Autechre, NIN, Future Sound of London, Front 242, etc... Thanks for all help in advance, and I'm sorry for rambling, I'm just craving a new synth. Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 3 09:34:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 07:31:16 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: bug? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Sat, 2 May 1998 17:33:20 +0200, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Have anyone else had this problem, or don't you use soft-thru and use other synths behind the Virus? Soft thru is rarely a good idea; best avoided if you can. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 3 09:34:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 07:31:17 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Sat, 2 May 1998 21:37:00 -0700 (PDT), access-list@teklab.com wrote: >control I crave.. And the JP8000 is a bit limited, and doesnt have any patches that piece right through me. You might consider programming your own.... wait and try the Virus first though....I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 3 12:00:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 12:03:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Tim Anderson >In any case, I've read the FAQ and I want to thank those who helped write it for the information that it provided, but I am curious about the Virus' Arpeggiator... >Is it single channel only? >Does it send its notes MIDI out? >Are there user programmable arpeggios? It can play up, down, up&down and as played in various octaves. >How does the virus handle portamento? Does it use samples for its "analog" waveforms thereby giving the above problem, or does it use dsp algorithms to simulate these waveforms? No, it doesn't use samples. I can find no problems with the portamento (a function which should be on ANY synth!!) >And the JP8000 is a bit limited, and doesnt have any patches that piece right through me. (almost) no limits for the Virus :-) I love the machine. >BTW I do techno/industrial/drum'n'bass/ambient music, in the likes of Autechre, NIN, Future Sound of London, Front 242, etc... Ah, I like FSOL, Orbital, some F424 etc. The Virus would be a nice add for your music. I guess I'm more into ambient then. BTW I do electronic music/berlin school (hate that word), like Tangerine Dream. Also love progrockbands like Anglagard, Pulsar, PF (any band with a mellotron in it :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 00:04:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 13:02:23 +0200 Subject: Re: bug? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:31 Uhr +0200 on 03.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>Have anyone else had this problem, or don't you use soft-thru and use other synths behind the Virus? > >Soft thru is rarely a good idea; best avoided if you can. Wait for the update in OS, this will have a fix for this problem. (coming early next week, I believe). I hope I am right... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 00:14:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 09:45:57 -0400 Sender: Tony Scharf Subject: Virus vs.. Microwave II XT * From: Tony Scharf Greetings everyone. I am currently the owner of a Microwave II. I am considering either upgrading to a microwave II xt or adding a Virus, but being in the United states (where if its not Roland, Korg, or Yamaha - its not in the stores) I dont have anywhere I can go to check out the virus and compare its sound to the MwII. The FAQ and website have answered most of my questions about specifications, however what I need is to hear from someone who owns or has used both the MwII and the Virus. I need to know how much sonic ground they overlap, and how well they compliment each other. I would also like to know how the FX on the Virus sound compared to other similar synths (i.e. are they better than the prophecy's?) My intend use if for live performance, where I take my korg prophecy, my MWII and an E64 sampler. The XT or the Virus would add alot more real-time control to my rig, which I am really aching for at this point. Thanks for your time. Tony Scharf Carbon Haze Negative Gain Productions P.S. Does anyone know of a store in the Chicago IL area that has a virus I can play with? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 3 23:32:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 09:54:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) > >On Sat, 2 May 1998 21:37:00 -0700 (PDT), access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >>control I crave.. And the JP8000 is a bit limited, and doesnt have any patches that piece right through me. >You might consider programming your own.... > >wait and try the Virus first though....I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. > Yes - as in 'why the hell did I ever even consider buying this stupid JP 8000?' ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 00:26:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 09:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Tim Anderson Oh yes, I hate playing with the presets of any synth. Very rarely have I found a synth where the presets truely touch base with what the machine is really capable. Take the k2000 for instance. If you listen to the k2000 you might think, "Oh this thing has some decent pads". Hah. You can get insanely weird stuff out of it, squelches, monstrous distortion... the list goes on and on. Part of the appeal of the virus to me is that it seems to have a much more flexible routing than the jp8000, also the filter inputs to process external audio is great.. Has anyone truely done any wonderful things with the filter inputs? Strange drum processing, other synths, vocals, etc? I'd like to hear about it. Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com >* From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) >>control I crave.. And the JP8000 is a bit limited, and doesnt have any >>patches that piece right through me. >You might consider programming your own.... > >wait and try the Virus first though....I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 00:06:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: genesia@mygale.org (Unverified) Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 23:18:10 +0200 Subject: DSP ? * From: GeNeSiA hello ! just a simple question: what is the DSP used in the virus ? (TI, Motorola,...) CaM ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 08:15:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 08:13:02 +0200 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 18:56 Uhr +0200 on 03.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Has anyone truely done any wonderful things with the filter inputs? Strange drum processing, other synths, vocals, etc? I'd like to hear about it. I use it a lot for Guitar, drums (a drumstation par example) and to distort and contort and disassemble some samples from the ASR. I ussually route the sound through the virus onto my hard drive, transfer it back to the sampler and do moree weird things to it. try an external sound through lots of delay together with some (or lots!) of modulation on the delay. it is a lot of fun...! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 12:37:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: rodneyh@magna.com.au Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 20:37:50 +1000 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Rod At 09:54 3/05/98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: Gene Schwartz > >>* From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) >> >>On Sat, 2 May 1998 21:37:00 -0700 (PDT), access-list@teklab.com wrote: >> >>>control I crave.. And the JP8000 is a bit limited, and doesnt have any patches that piece right through me. >>You might consider programming your own.... >> >>wait and try the Virus first though....I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. >> > >Yes - as in 'why the hell did I ever even consider buying this stupid JP 8000?' 'Cos it's a fucking great synth with loads of real time control. Just 'cos the Virus is a great synth, don't mean the JP isn't. OK it's not perfect but it's not stupid. >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 16:47:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 98 16:49:47 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Virus Environment and 5 sounds uploaded * From: Raymund Beyer Hi everybody, I just uploaded the Virus Environment to my webspace at http://members.aol.com/brainray/Virus Itīs still not finished, but I think it will help a little bit ;-) I hope now PC users will not have problems downloading it. For use of the single edit, you will have to change the port midi chanel to the one you use. Hey canine: feel free to put the environment on your homepage if you like. I also uploaded 5 sounds i did. They sound like a typical SH09/101. Hey guys: shure everyone has made a few good sounds. If we all would share them, we all would have much more fun - wouldnīt we? So if you have some sounds - also if there are only 2 or 3 - you made yourself, please send them to canine or to me. I will put them together to a bank and post them to canine or on my webspace immidiately, O.K.? Some of you have reported very interesting experiments I would like to listen at ;-)))) We shouldnt only talk about the benefits or bugs of the Virus, we should also do something to make the Virus community strong!! Look at the CS1x-Page: 2 times a week there are updates with new patches! C-Ya Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 17:03:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 08:03:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Rod > >At 09:54 3/05/98 -0700, you wrote: >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>>* From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) >>> >>>On Sat, 2 May 1998 21:37:00 -0700 (PDT), access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>> >>>>control I crave.. And the JP8000 is a bit limited, and doesnt have any patches that piece right through me. >>>You might consider programming your own.... >>> >>>wait and try the Virus first though....I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. >>> >> >>Yes - as in 'why the hell did I ever even consider buying this stupid JP >8000?' > >'Cos it's a fucking great synth with loads of real time control. Just 'cos the Virus is a great synth, don't mean the JP isn't. > >OK it's not perfect but it's not stupid. That's interesting reasoning. This Virus is great, therefore the JP isn't. Wish I had thought of that. The JP 8000 sucks. There, I've said it again. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 18:29:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:27:46 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus Environment and 5 sounds uploaded * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 16:49 Uhr +0200 on 04.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >So if you have some sounds - also if there are only 2 or 3 - you made yourself, please send them to canine or to me. I will put them together to a bank and post them to canine or on my webspace immidiately, O.K.? Maybe it does make sense to put them on the page individually, one by one, so that everyone can write comments for every sound they post. Then we can make monthly ZIP files of all the sounds so you can download them altogether. just a thought. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 19:03:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 19:06:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Gene Schwartz > >>* From: Rod >>'Cos it's a fucking great synth with loads of real time control. Just 'cos the Virus is a great synth, don't mean the JP isn't. >> >>OK it's not perfect but it's not stupid. > >The JP 8000 sucks. There, I've said it again. Stop it, guys. Every synth has its qualities, IMO. There is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth. I, for one, LOVE the mellotron sound or the old e-pianos (which are great in the virus, thanks Rob Papen!) and are they good synths/keyboards? Well there isn't much you can do about changing the same but I sure love it. It's like your saying apples suck just because YOU don't like them. Somebody else can. (does this make any sense??? :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 20:50:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 11:41:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: brian@sedona.net It's a bloody war!!! sheesh - Any *answers* for the original post??? I've got the same questions! Peace and Dub, Brian >but I am curious about >the Virus' Arpeggiator... >Is it single channel only? >Does it send its notes MIDI out? >Are there user programmable arpeggios? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 4 22:52:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:51:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>>* From: Rod > > >>>'Cos it's a fucking great synth with loads of real time control. Just 'cos the Virus is a great synth, don't mean the JP isn't. >>> >>>OK it's not perfect but it's not stupid. >> >>The JP 8000 sucks. There, I've said it again. > >Stop it, guys. >Every synth has its qualities, IMO. >There is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth. I, for one, LOVE the mellotron sound or the old e-pianos (which are great in the virus, thanks Rob Papen!) and are they good synths/keyboards? Well there isn't much you can do about changing the same but I sure love it. > >It's like your saying apples suck just because YOU don't like them. Somebody else can. >(does this make any sense??? :-)) > I hate this new age relativist peace/love everything is great , smileys after smileys crap. I made a 'humorous' comment about someone's hypothetical reaction when they played a Virus after playing a JP8000. I never engaged in the juvenile reasoning that the JP8000 lover claimed that I did. So I responded. Most of us here think that the Virus is better than many other synths. I think the JP8000 sucks. I think it was an attempt by Roland to make some quick bucks and cash in on the analog resurgence. I think that the MC303 sucks more. I love the Microwave II. If someone claimed that it sucked, I might disagree. But not because 'there is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth'. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 00:14:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 18:21:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net you guys will stop this stuff now the rest of us dont want to hear it flame in private mail, not on this list!!!!! warning 1 weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Gene Schwartz > >>* From: "Marcel Engels" >> >>>* From: Gene Schwartz >>> >>>>* From: Rod >> >> >>>>'Cos it's a fucking great synth with loads of real time control. Just 'cos the Virus is a great synth, don't mean the JP isn't. >>>> >>>>OK it's not perfect but it's not stupid. >>> >>>The JP 8000 sucks. There, I've said it again. >> >>Stop it, guys. >>Every synth has its qualities, IMO. >>There is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth. I, for one, LOVE the mellotron sound or the old e-pianos (which are great in the virus, thanks Rob Papen!) and are they good synths/keyboards? Well there isn't much you can do about changing the same but I sure love it. >> >>It's like your saying apples suck just because YOU don't like them. Somebody else can. >>(does this make any sense??? :-)) >> > >I hate this new age relativist peace/love everything is great , smileys after smileys crap. I made a 'humorous' comment about someone's hypothetical reaction when they played a Virus after playing a JP8000. I never engaged in the juvenile reasoning that the JP8000 lover claimed that I did. So I responded. > >Most of us here think that the Virus is better than many other synths. I think the JP8000 sucks. I think it was an attempt by Roland to make some quick bucks and cash in on the analog resurgence. I think that the MC303 sucks more. > >I love the Microwave II. If someone claimed that it sucked, I might disagree. But not because 'there is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth'. > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 01:25:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 16:28:27 -0700 Subject: RE: Arpeggiator * From: Michael Egar I'm right behind this guy. Let's fucking face it. If you're gonna operate on an "everybody won the race" basis then we'll all end up buying shit synths like the JP8000. Buck for buck you're better off with something else. Yeah all synths have thier own merrits but if you're starting off you want to get something with a bit of balls. I think it's unfair misleading people into making the same mistakes that you have made just because you don't want to admit that you made a bad decision. I mean look at the old 303's everybody wanted one but they were absolute crap compared to anything released about 2 month's afterward. Roland has come up with great ideas in the past but they generally leave it up to somebody else to implement it properly. That's my two cents buddy. >---------- >From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 1:51 PM >To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Subject: Re: Arpeggiator > >* From: Gene Schwartz > >>* From: "Marcel Engels" >> >>>* From: Gene Schwartz >>> >>>>* From: Rod >> >> >>>>'Cos it's a fucking great synth with loads of real time control. Just 'cos the Virus is a great synth, don't mean the JP isn't. >>>> >>>>OK it's not perfect but it's not stupid. >>> >>>The JP 8000 sucks. There, I've said it again. >> >>Stop it, guys. >>Every synth has its qualities, IMO. >>There is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth. I, for one, LOVE the mellotron sound or the old e-pianos (which are great in the virus, thanks Rob Papen!) and are they good synths/keyboards? Well there isn't much you can do about changing the same but I sure love it. >> >>It's like your saying apples suck just because YOU don't like them. Somebody else can. >>(does this make any sense??? :-)) >> > >I hate this new age relativist peace/love everything is great , smileys after smileys crap. I made a 'humorous' comment about someone's hypothetical reaction when they played a Virus after playing a JP8000. I never engaged in the juvenile reasoning that the JP8000 lover claimed that I did. So I responded. > >Most of us here think that the Virus is better than many other synths. I think the JP8000 sucks. I think it was an attempt by Roland to make some quick bucks and cash in on the analog resurgence. I think that the MC303 sucks more. > >I love the Microwave II. If someone claimed that it sucked, I might disagree. But not because 'there is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth'. > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 01:58:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 16:57:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >you guys will stop this stuff now > >the rest of us dont want to hear it > >flame in private mail, not on this list!!!!! warning 1 >weld > Well, at least tell us how many warnings we have. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 03:16:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:03:32 -0700 Subject: RE: Arpeggiator * From: Michael Egar Whoooops a daisy. I sent the below mail before it was suggested that people of my ilk shut up. My apologies to you one and all. I don't know where the delay is but I only get mails about an hour after they have been sent. >---------- >From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 4:28 PM >To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >Subject: RE: Arpeggiator > >* From: Michael Egar > >I'm right behind this guy. Let's fucking face it. If you're gonna operate on an "everybody won the race" basis then we'll all end up buying shit synths like the JP8000. Buck for buck you're better off with something else. Yeah all synths have thier own merrits but if you're starting off you want to get something with a bit of balls. I think it's unfair misleading people into making the same mistakes that you have made just because you don't want to admit that you made a bad decision. I mean look at the old 303's everybody wanted one but they were absolute crap compared to anything released about 2 month's afterward. Roland has come up with great ideas in the past but they generally leave it up to somebody else to implement it properly. > > That's my two cents buddy. > >>---------- >>From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 1:51 PM >>To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com >>Subject: Re: Arpeggiator >> >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>>* From: "Marcel Engels" >>> >>>>* From: Gene Schwartz >>>> >>>>>* From: Rod >>> >>> >>>>>'Cos it's a fucking great synth with loads of real time control. Just 'cos the Virus is a great synth, don't mean the JP isn't. >>>>> >>>>>OK it's not perfect but it's not stupid. >>>> >>>>The JP 8000 sucks. There, I've said it again. >>> >>>Stop it, guys. >>>Every synth has its qualities, IMO. >>>There is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth. I, for one, LOVE the mellotron sound or the old e-pianos (which are great in the virus, thanks Rob Papen!) and are they good synths/keyboards? Well there isn't much you can do about changing the same but I sure love it. >>> >>>It's like your saying apples suck just because YOU don't like them. Somebody else can. >>>(does this make any sense??? :-)) >>> >> >>I hate this new age relativist peace/love everything is great , smileys after smileys crap. I made a 'humorous' comment about someone's hypothetical reaction when they played a Virus after playing a JP8000. I never engaged in the juvenile reasoning that the JP8000 lover claimed that I did. So I responded. >> >>Most of us here think that the Virus is better than many other synths. I think the JP8000 sucks. I think it was an attempt by Roland to make some quick bucks and cash in on the analog resurgence. I think that the MC303 sucks more. >> >>I love the Microwave II. If someone claimed that it sucked, I might disagree. But not because 'there is no such thing as a good synth or a bad synth'. >> >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 03:46:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:46:04 -0400 Sender: Tony Scharf Subject: RE: Arpeggiator * From: Tony Scharf Message text written by INTERNET:access-list@teklab.com >I'm right behind this guy. Let's fucking face it. If you're gonna operate on an "everybody won the race" basis then we'll all end up buying shit synths like the JP8000.< I completly disagree with this statement. Different synths are good for different applications and different ways of working. Case in point - I made the "mistake" of purchasing a general music S3 music workstation some years ago. It was all I had the money for at the time, and I needed an all in one box. Since then, as I collected more synths and specialty devices, I realized I wasnt using the synth anymore. Recently I placed it for sale, and ended up trading it for a Microwave II owned by a musician who primarily does song jingles for a living, in addition to session work as a Jazz keyboardist. We have spoken since the trade, and He says the s3 has inspired him like no other synth he has ever played, while I would say the same about my new waldorf. Different synth for different people and different situations. I have played the JP8000, and while I admit its presets are not very good, you can get decent sounds out of it if you work at it. I think that is a problem with alot of techno players these days. Everyone wants instant gratification out of a synth, without having to learn anything about it (nothing really wrong with that, I just think the classifieds would be alot shorter and users alot happier if they took the time to learn thier synths, rather than judge them by what they could do the first week). my casio vz10m is like that (yes, I said casio, dont laugh!). If you just play through the presets you would be VERY dissapointed. But is synth architecture is such that you can get the most amazing aggressive sounds out of it - if you take the time. I think thats why the 303 is so popular - it really doesnt take to much to make it sound cool. These are just my opinions. Please do not flame me for them. I get enough of that from the K2000 list... Regards Tony Scharf Carbon Haze Negative Gain Productions ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 04:21:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 19:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Tim Anderson >* From: Gene Schwartz I love the Microwave II. If someone claimed that it sucked, I might disagree. But not because 'there is no such thing as a good synth or a bad >synth'. Since you mention it, which would you really recommend more, the Access Virus, or the Microwave XT. What are their differences? I am going to be buying something soon as I mentioned earlier (which actually started this whole war) and was wondering how different things stacked up. I've got a K2000, but I want something with loads of realtime control, and ripping synthetic sounds, and smoldering bass, etc. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 06:03:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:03:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Tim Anderson > >>* From: Gene Schwartz I love the Microwave II. If someone claimed that it sucked, I might disagree. But not because 'there is no such thing as a good synth or >a bad >>synth'. >Since you mention it, which would you really recommend more, the Access Virus, or the Microwave XT. What are their differences? I am going to be buying something soon as I mentioned earlier (which actually started this whole war) and was wondering how different things stacked up. I've got a K2000, but I want something with loads of realtime control, and ripping synthetic sounds, and smoldering bass, etc. If I had to choose 1, I'd pick the Microwave XT. I should be challenged almost immediately by Virus loyalists, who will accuse me of treachery. I will say, in my defense, that I am quite fond of my Virus. But I would make my decision based on your priorities. I'd say the Virus sound is definitely more analog in character, that being the idea of the instrument in the first place. It's easier to get 'classic' synth sounds. The filters are fatter, the sound leaps out at you more. The Microwave II has far far more in the way of modulation, several filter types, and the wavetables which give you more control over basic waveforms than the Virus has. Sounds of greater complexity can be constructed, and the mod routings enable you to evolve them over time drastically or subtly. The sound, imo, is every bit as good, but more digital, more detailed, not as in your face but more subtle, more spacious, more animated. The Virus has a great internal routing scheme with aux ins and outs, to let you process external signals, and/or the Virus' own sounds through a maze of routings. That's enough for now. Now for the obligatory dissenting comments. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 09:38:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:39:55 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus Environment and 5 sounds uploaded * From: "Raymund Beyer" >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 16:49 Uhr +0200 on 04.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>So if you have some sounds - also if there are only 2 or 3 - you made yourself, please send them to canine or to me. I will put them together to a bank and post them to canine or on my webspace immidiately, O.K.? > >Maybe it does make sense to put them on the page individually, one by one, so that everyone can write comments for every sound they post. > >Then we can make monthly ZIP files of all the sounds so you can download them altogether. > >just a thought. Hi Canine, a good tought I think! it would be great, if something would happen here, not only the comparing of synths ;-) People : GET UP, and have a nice day Ray ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 17:59:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:43:17 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: "Howard Scarr" >Is it single channel only? No, 16 >Does it send its notes MIDI out? Yes, optional >Are there user programmable arpeggios? No, the closest you will get is "AsPlayed" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 18:25:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:28:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: "Onno" > >I would like to know how i can get the manual or atleast get a pdf file or something that's downloadable.I got my virus last week but there is no manual with it.The only thing i got was some card saying i could buy sounds from Rob Papen.Who is Rob..? >Why would someone make sounds on a fully controllable machine like the virus anyway.The preset day are over for me.I just want the goddam manual when i buy something. > >Has anyone got one that's internet sendable Hhmmm, thats very strange, Onno. (ah een nederlander!) Almost all (I think) new Viruses come with an 80 page or so owners manual. I got the Virus about 1.5 months ago and with it came the manual. Where did you buy it? I bought it at Tach en Tally in The Hague. (after waiting for over 6 months!!!!!). Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 5 18:51:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: Re: Changed Patch Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:46:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From REarly@aol.com >Last night, while working on a song, the Vocoder patch I was using suddenly >changed, the sound became much thinner and started to click. I turned the virus off and back on several times but the patch wasn't restored. Anybody >have any ideas as to what might have caused it, and how to get the patch back? It was a preset patch (except for slightly modified filter settings.) Is there a way I can restore the preset patch without loading the >entire bank or the o.s. from my sequencer again? It happened to me a few times too... I made a patch and used it in a multibank. Some days later and the patch in the multibank did sound different and I really haven't changed it since...others in the multibank sounded okay!! (this happened twice) I haven't reported this, maybe it was a power-dip or peak over here I don't know...but I can't think of this when I have to play a concert and one sound is gone in the multi-bank! What sort of clicks do you hear? At the beginning/attack of a sound? I still have those...they are less noticeable then before but still there. And no I haven't set the attack to 0 and no I didn't use to much voices or doubles or whatever. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 18:43:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:51:37 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus Environment and 5 sounds uploaded * From: b la rock Hello...... Yes I would like to participate in the sharing of sounds but i was under the impression that you cannot share single patches ... you know ? ... i thought that you could only sysex dump the entire A block or the entire B block or one Multi or all Multis .... This means that sharing single sounds will be difficult ... no ? Correct me if im wrong here ... Bye .... La B. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 21:11:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 5 May 98 21:13:30 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Virus Environment and 5 sounds uploaded * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: b la rock > >Hello...... > >Yes I would like to participate in the sharing of sounds but i was under the impression that you cannot share single patches ... you know ? ... i thought that you could only sysex dump the entire A block or the entire B block or one >Multi or all Multis .... Hi B, no, it is also possible dumping just single buffers. You can send them to canine@muenster.de. will put them on the page. Ray >This means that sharing single sounds will be difficult ... no ? > >Correct me if im wrong here ... > >Bye .... > >La B. > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 21:13:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 21:17:13 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus Environment and 5 sounds uploaded * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 18:51 Uhr +0200 on 05.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: b la rock > >Hello...... > >Yes I would like to participate in the sharing of sounds but i was under the impression that you cannot share single patches ... you know ? ... i thought > >Correct me if im wrong here ... No, go to the MIDI page where it says: MIDI dump TX and turn the parameter to "Single Buff" that's it. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 14:00:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:56:57 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches * From: "Onno" I would like to know how i can get the manual or atleast get a pdf file or something that's downloadable.I got my virus last week but there is no manual with it.The only thing i got was some card saying i could buy sounds from Rob Papen.Who is Rob..? Why would someone make sounds on a fully controllable machine like the virus anyway.The preset day are over for me.I just want the goddam manual when i buy something. Has anyone got one that's internet sendable Mail me back then thanks in advance i can't get the multi part working good yet on midi etc. some button config i gues See ya thanks for the list K9 or should i say Sir K9? See ya on the A-side ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 5 22:59:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 14:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: Tim Anderson >>Is it single channel only? > >No, 16 Separate arppegio's on each channel, or does it arpeggiate all the channels identical (and if so, can you select just certain channels to arpeggiate)? >>Are there user programmable arpeggios? >No, the closest you will get is "AsPlayed" Does this mean you can play an arpeggio and it will remember it and play it when you hold down a key, or does it mean that it will play the notes you are holding down in the order that you held them down (and if this is the case, can you hold a sustain pedal to keep the notes going)? Sorry for all the questions, but thanks for answering my earlier ones. Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 23:58:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 22:33:19 +0100 Subject: Re: patches * From: Schorsch Am 05-Mai-98 schrieb access-list@teklab.com: >* From: "Marcel Engels" >>* From: "Onno" >> >>I would like to know how i can get the manual or atleast get a pdf file or something that's downloadable.I got my virus last week but there is no manual with it.The only thing i got was some card saying i could buy When I got my Virus, there wasn't a manual with it. The "docs" said it was to come soon. But it didn't. I contacted Access at "info@tsi-gmbh.de" (with my full address) and asked for the manual and -viola- some days later i got it. ->Schorsch ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 6 19:05:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:05:18 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Tim Anderson >Does this mean you can play an arpeggio and it will remember it and play it when you hold down a key, or does it mean that it will play the notes you are holding down in the order that you held them down (and if this is the case, can you hold a sustain pedal to keep the notes going)? Ha, thats the same I asked a while back. Sadly/strangely there's no sustain-input or any other inputs other then midi in and ext. in (for audio). Are Quasimidi synths the only 'new' synths who can do this - freeze (with a footswitch) the arpeggio you made and transpose it with just one key? (superb function!). yes, I also have Quasimidi. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl (but you never know, maybe there will be a footswitch input with the next OS update, hahaha) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 6 22:28:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 13:14:58 -0400 Subject: Re[2]: Arpeggiator * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) >audio). >Are Quasimidi synths the only 'new' synths who can do this - freeze (with a footswitch) the arpeggio you made and transpose it with just one key? (superb function!). yes, I also have Quasimidi. Which Quasimidi? I have the wonderful 309... Are you talking about the "Serius" model? By the Way, just had to say that I love my Virus! ..so much fun creating on that thing. Much props and continued success to Access! "Do not touch me and wait" Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 6 21:33:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 21:29:05 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: "Howard Scarr" >>>Are there user programmable arpeggios? >>No, the closest you will get is "AsPlayed" Otherwise we might be talking about a simple sequencer >Does this mean you can play an arpeggio and it will remember it and play it when you hold down a key, or does it mean that it will play the notes you are holding down in the order that you held them down... The latter. But it would be good to have a "transpose" mode, wouldn't it? >...(and if this is the case, can you hold a sustain pedal to keep the notes going)? Yes. However, there is also an arpeggiator option (in the latest OS) called "Hold". ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 11:50:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 21:43:40 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Arpeggiator * From: "Howard Scarr" >Sadly/strangely there's no sustain-input or any other inputs other than midi in and ext. in (for audio). Don't actually need a sustain input (assuming your keyboard has one)... >Are Quasimidi synths the only 'new' synths who can do this - freeze (with a footswitch) the arpeggio you made and transpose it with just one key? .but mapping e.g. sostenuto to such a "freeze" would be useful! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 6 22:01:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:00:23 -0400 Sender: tony Scharf Subject: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: tony Scharf Greetings everyone. What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? and does anyone know a place in the Chicago area where I can play either these units. Thanks Tony Scharf Carbon Haze Negative Gain Productions ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 6 23:44:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:40:45 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: "NightGoat" >and does anyone know a place in the Chicago area where I can play either these units. Try Gand Music(just a little north of Chicago): 780 Frontage Road Northfield, IL 60093 ph:(847) 446-GAND Call Dan and see if they have them in stock. Last time I talked to him he said they sell very fast and don't stay in stock too long(the Virus, not sure about the MXT). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 06:34:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 00:34:02 EDT Subject: Re: patches * From: Elhardt << The only thing i got was some card saying i could buy sounds from Rob Papen.Who is Rob..? Why would someone make sounds on a fully controllable machine like the virus anyway.>> That is something I have always thought myself. The reason for buying a synthesizer is to synthesize sounds. That is the whole point of a synthesizer. But there is always someone out there who wants to profit for every little thing. Maybe we should all start withholding any helpful tips or patches and charge for them. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 10:24:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 10:10:22 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: "ali" * From: tony Scharf What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? ********** ********** What does the Microwave II XT do that a Virus wont? oysterpea*hes to all ali [newbie alert!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 10:34:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 98 10:41:15 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: patches * From: Raymund Beyer Elhard, some of the KILLER Factory Sounds are from Rob!!! I canīt agree with what you said! Very oftem new sounds kick me and I take them to make my own variation of it. And sometimes I simply donīt have the time making new sounds, and so iīm glad if someone that does this professional will do it for me. And Iīm very glad Rob does a great job!! Sorry, had to say this - dont want flames. Just wanted to show an other kind of view :-) Ray >* From: Elhardt > ><< The only thing i got was some card saying i could buy sounds from Rob Papen.Who is Rob..? Why would someone make sounds on a fully controllable machine like the virus anyway.>> > >That is something I have always thought myself. The reason for buying a synthesizer is to synthesize sounds. That is the whole point of a synthesizer. But there is always someone out there who wants to profit for every little thing. Maybe we should all start withholding any helpful tips or >patches and charge for them. > >-Elhardt >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 11:35:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:33:20 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:10 Uhr +0200 on 07.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? it infects people and MIDI setups. Once you have it it is very difficutl to get it out of your system. Also it has two filters, no Wavetable stuff and is smaller. Weld, would you like to do me a favor and get the ansewrs to this question compiled for the FAQ? I would be so grateful! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 11:35:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:38:32 +0200 Subject: Re: patches * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:34 Uhr +0200 on 07.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >That is something I have always thought myself. The reason for buying a synthesizer is to synthesize sounds. That is the whole point of a synthesizer. But there is always someone out there who wants to profit for every little thing. Maybe we should all start withholding any helpful tips or patches and charge for them. Sounds you buy (they are not very expensive, and rest assured that Rob probably won't make enough money off it to buy that Ferrari just yet) are a great way to see how other people are using the machine on a very very professional basis. It can be very inspiring to listen to those and then to hack them up and adjust them to your needs. Your objections are another reason I am not asking anyone to send in banks of 127 singles plus decent multis. All I am asking for is that everyone submit a few sounds they did. Something original that shows what you can do with the Virus. >From everything I know about the companies we are dealing with you can be pretty sure that no-one will use your sounds and sell them as a soundset under a different name. And maybe we can roll up a soundset that other people become interested in and maybe someone will market that as "The Net Set" or something like that. And if you feel it is wrong to charge money for sounds, try programming 127 different sounds that are all worth listening to and don't forget that at least 120 of those should work in the context of a song's mix... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 14:27:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 13:24:44 +0100 Organization: Soft Room Music Subject: Patches * From: Paul Nagle There's a bank of Virus patches for free on my web site www.softroom.demon.co.uk I did them some time ago and really must post some better ones - yes, they aren't a patch (hehe) on Rob's but then sometimes you have to pay for quality. Enjoy or destroy. Regards, Paul ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 17:57:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:55:08 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: "Martin Selway" The Virus won't put you so much out of pocket as the XT! But, both are very admirable synths. MARTIN mase@post5.tele.dk http://home5.inet.tele.dk/mase -----Original Message----- From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: torsdag, maj 07, 1998 11:44 Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT >* From: "ali" > >* From: tony Scharf > >What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? > >********** ********** >What does the Microwave II XT do that a Virus wont? > >oysterpea*hes to all > >ali [newbie alert!] > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 18:40:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 18:43:19 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Arpeggiator * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > >Which Quasimidi? The 'arpeggiator freeze and transpose with 1 key' fuction possible on the Quasar, Raven (I think) and Cyber6. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 18:54:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 09:54:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "ali" > >* From: tony Scharf > >What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? > >********** ********** >What does the Microwave II XT do that a Virus wont? > >oysterpea*hes to all > >ali [newbie alert!] > > Actually the best start for anyone exploring these questions is to read the specs on the respective Web pages. But, off the top of my head, filtering dandruff: Virus: more flexible filtering, XT: more filter types Virus: more flexible routing of audio signals and internal signals XT: far more flexible and numerous modulation routings XT: wavetable synthesis Subjective opinions: well, that wasn't the question. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 19:02:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 10:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 10:10 Uhr +0200 on 07.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? > >it infects people and MIDI setups. Once you have it it is very difficutl to get it out of your system. Actually, these are features of the Microwave II also. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 19:05:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 10:04:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: Re: patches * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 6:34 Uhr +0200 on 07.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>That is something I have always thought myself. The reason for buying a synthesizer is to synthesize sounds. That is the whole point of a synthesizer. But there is always someone out there who wants to profit for every little thing. Maybe we should all start withholding any helpful tips or >>patches and charge for them. > I myself never use other peoples sounds, but - why is charging money for sounds that others can use any more wrong than, say, making money by renting out a place to live? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 21:44:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:40:31 -0400 Subject: Re[2]: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 5/7/98 11:33 AM >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >At 10:10 Uhr +0200 on 07.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? >it infects people and MIDI setups. Once you have it it is very difficutl to get it out of your system. No doubt! It very addictive too. It pains me to leave it at the end of the night... Do Not Touch Me and Wait! Mundo Big Up the Utz patch! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 7 20:40:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:39:58 -0400 Sender: tony Scharf Subject: RE: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: tony Scharf >>Subjective opinions: well, that wasn't the question.<< actualy, I would like peoples opinions. particularly anyone who has both units. ---------- From: INTERNET:access-list@teklab.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 1998 1:31 PM To: INTERNET:access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT Sender: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Received: from tl36.teklab.com (tl36.teklab.com [207.215.53.36]) by hil-img-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.10) with ESMTP id OAA29321 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tl36.teklab.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11535; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:58:13 -0700 From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Errors-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Message-ID: <3551DA16.BeroList-2.5.5@tl36.teklab.com> by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 09:54:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) In-Reply-To: <3551628B.BeroList-2.5.5@tl36.teklab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "ali" > >* From: tony Scharf > >What does the Virus do that a Microwave II XT wont? > >********** ********** >What does the Microwave II XT do that a Virus wont? > >oysterpea*hes to all > >ali [newbie alert!] > > Actually the best start for anyone exploring these questions is to read the specs on the respective Web pages. But, off the top of my head, filtering dandruff: Virus: more flexible filtering, XT: more filter types Virus: more flexible routing of audio signals and internal signals XT: far more flexible and numerous modulation routings XT: wavetable synthesis Subjective opinions: well, that wasn't the question. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 11:34:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 21:21:25 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: Paul Nagle On Thu, 7 May 1998 14:39:58 -0400, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >actualy, I would like peoples opinions. particularly anyone who has both units. I have both here but only actually own the MW2. My aim is to get a Microwave XT which has lots of knobs. I love this synth - it is weird, powerful, gritty, dirty and you can lose yourself in its modulation capabilities. It can also be frustrating, sound muffled, distorted or downright evil! The Virus is more immediate than the MW2 and has a sweeter filter but I can live without it if I have to. Just. I am not prepared to manage without a Microwave - it's probably a foolish obsession of mine though. You really must judge for yourself based on what you personally like. And for that you must play with them. No simple solutions, really. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 00:07:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 15:06:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: RE: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: tony Scharf > >>>Subjective opinions: well, that wasn't the question.<< > >actualy, I would like peoples opinions. particularly anyone who has both units. > > > I've already posted on this. So I'll be briefer. My personal Subjective opinion: Note - I own the MWII (not the XT) and the Virus. Because of the great mod routings and flexibility, and the wavetables, I find the MWII better for unusual, evolving, discordant, complex, sounds. If I had to choose between them, I'd choose the MWII. I think the Virus is great. If what you want is analog emulation, with a great filter and audio inputs, and the great internal routing capabilities, get the Virus. But keep in mind that (with both units) the software can be upgraded via sysex, so there is the potential for more features. The Virus sound is warmer, more immediate. The MWII sound is more animated and spacious - more digital (I don't use that pejoratively.) Ultimately, which of the 2 machines you prefer should depend on the music you're doing, and the kind of synth programmer you are. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 02:45:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:44:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 Subject: V1.53? * From: Simon Gatrall So what's up with 1.53? I thought it was supposed to be out by now. More vaporware.... -s!mon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 02:50:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 02:47:55 +0200 Subject: Good News: 1.53 posted * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi there List, I just posted version 1.53 (a .zip file) to the download section of the virus site. Look in the signature for the URL. If you need something other than a zip file, please let me know. Please remember that there is a Shareware "ZipIt" and "MacUnZip" for the Macintosh available as well as numerous utilities for most other platforms that unzip files. Enjoy. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 02:50:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 02:48:44 +0200 Subject: Helpful hints and tricks... * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi Users! Some insider tips to features that might not be evident at first from the manual: - Arpeggiator / Hold Pedal / AsPlayed The hold pedal works on the arpeggiator in a way that it does not hold the notes itselfs, but holds the notes in the arpeggiator line (in some ways similar to the Arp Hold Mode). When holding the hold pedal in AsPlayed mode, it is possible to play in an individual phrase line, witch is repeated as long as you hold the pedal. The big difference from not using the hold pedal is, that you can use the same note more than once in the line, so there are no limits to the phrase. Without the hold pedal, every note can exist only once in the arpeggiator line, because it is erased from the line when you release the key to hit it again. The Phrase cannot be saved or edited. The Arpeggiator holds up to 16 notes in its line, each part individually. - Input The Oscillator Volume knob works even when the Virus is in Input mode. You can control the voice level by that knob when you are experiencing overloads in the filter or the output stage even though the input gain is adjusted correctly. Distortion actually may occur when you play many notes in Dynamic Input mode. This happens because all voices serve the same input signal and so all voices are correlated to each other (as opposed to many different oscillator signals when not using the eternal inputs, those are not correlated). The result is a fast increase of volume level by the voice amount, thereby causing possible distortions. The noise generator still works in both Input modes. - Stereo Inputs When you choose both inputs as a stereo source (or one of the aux busses as a stereo source), the single (or part in a multi) invisibly switches into TWIN mode automatically, so the input signal is processed full stereo using two voices. In this case, the TWIN PanoramaSpread and TWIN LfoPhase parameters are active. Have fun Christoph Kemper think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 12:34:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 02:56:02 +0200 Subject: Re: V1.53? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:44 Uhr +0200 on 08.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >So what's up with 1.53? I thought it was supposed to be out by now. More vaporware.... think again... it's there... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 08:12:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 07:15:51 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Galaxy & OMS * From: Guenther Albrecht dear listmembers, with the sysEx implementation table in hand, i finally made a Galaxy module that works OK ;-) it consists of 2 parts: 1. the galaxy librarian module, containing the definitions & scripts 2. a patch document containing the current patch data of multi & single patches so OMS knows patch & controller names. anyone that uses OMS can use # 2., # 1. is only interesting for users of galaxy. please mail me if you think you want one or both! regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 08:32:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 23:31:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: backup before uploading new os * From: Gene Schwartz Well, like an idiot, I didn't backup the multi that I was working on. I tend to save amenities like naming the patches for last. So I had this multi which had two elaborate internal routing schemes going on simultaneously, and all the patches had the same name... The multi and patches were saved. Uploaded the new O.S. and several of the crucial patches in the multi were overwritten with patch A1. It will take me hours to figure it out again, so I'm just going to start over. The thing that pisses me off about the Virus thus far - and this is not to denigrate its positive features, which are many - is that I just don't trust it yet. (should have remembered that before the upload, but I hadn't been having problems with 1.52 and had become complacent.) Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 14:19:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 15:01:36 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Helpful hints and tricks... * From: "Howard Scarr" Hi Christof >Without the hold pedal, every note can exist only once in the arpeggiator line, because it is erased from the line when you release the key to hit it again. But there is a way round this. If you keep holding at least one of the notes (but not the one you want to repeat) then you can of course hit any note again. Works fine with a bit of practice. Keep up the good work - it's already a great machine, but please try to get rid of the last few bugs even before you start thinking about more features... Idea for easy "live" transposition with only a single new arpeggio parameter: "TransTopKey" with settings "none" and C-1 through C4. Only keys above this would be used to enter arpeggio notes - others transpose. Transposition=0 is always the second highest C within the range (saves a parameter and seems a sensible default). Worth a thought? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 17:48:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 17:48:39 +0200 Subject: final Sysex Documentation posted * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi list, hi programmers, I just posted the final sysex documentation list to the site (cf. signature for address) please spread the word to those who might need it... thank you. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 18:41:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:41:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Virus V.S. Microwave XT * From: Gene Schwartz Paul Nagle wrote about XT vs Virus: >I have both here but only actually own the MW2. My aim is to get a Microwave XT which has lots of knobs. I love this synth - it is weird, powerful, gritty, dirty and you can lose yourself in its modulation capabilities. It can also be frustrating, sound muffled, distorted or downright evil! > >The Virus is more immediate than the MW2 and has a sweeter filter but I can live without it if I have to. Just. I am not prepared to manage without a Microwave - it's probably a foolish obsession of mine though. You really must judge for yourself based on what you personally like. And for that you must play with them. No simple solutions, really. > Yeah! Exactly! I'm also thinking about selling my MWII and getting an XT. The MWII is an extraordinary machine if you really like to tweeeeeeeeeeak and get outrageous sounds that you can't get anywhere else - including the MWI. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 19:56:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 10:55:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: Logic environment * From: Gene Schwartz Have any LAM users successfully imported the Logic Virus environment available on the site? I have not been able to get this environment successfully - but I am using a beta version of Logic - maybe it's broken? Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 8 20:46:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:45:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: MWXT vs Virus? * From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" To follow up on Paul Nagle's comments: As an owner of both the XT and the Virus, I'd agree with Paul's assessment: The XT is brash and distinctive, but it can be a real brute in a mix. I find that the XT throws out a very heavy sound that fills up the spectrum very quickly. The Virus may be criticized for being a bit light in the low end, but it stacks nicely, and always sits in the mix well. For those seeking a box that can toss out 6-7 multitimbral parts for their new house classic, the Virus is the box. For those looking for a killer lead or "signature pad" for a track, turn to the XT. I'd not give up either readily, but to be honest, if I was to buy another synth to compliment the two, it would be another Virus. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 00:10:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:06:54 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: MWXT vs Virus? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 8 May 1998 13:45:18 -0500, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >up the spectrum very quickly. The Virus may be criticized for being a bit light in the low end, but it stacks nicely, and always sits in the mix well Well said! If every synth sounded like it just ate 12 burgers what kind of a mix would anyone be able to make? That's why a polyphonic minimoog isn't necessarily what the world needs.... ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 00:10:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:06:56 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: MWXT vs Virus? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 8 May 1998 13:45:18 -0500, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >up the spectrum very quickly. The Virus may be criticized for being a bit light in the low end, but it stacks nicely, and always sits in the mix well Well said! If every synth sounded like it just ate 12 burgers what kind of a mix would anyone be able to make? That's why a polyphonic minimoog isn't necessarily what the world needs.... ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 00:10:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:06:57 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: MWXT vs Virus? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 8 May 1998 13:45:18 -0500, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >up the spectrum very quickly. The Virus may be criticized for being a bit light in the low end, but it stacks nicely, and always sits in the mix well Well said! If every synth sounded like it just ate 12 burgers what kind of a mix would anyone be able to make? That's why a polyphonic minimoog isn't necessarily what the world needs.... ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 02:27:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 9 May 98 02:34:20 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Logic environment * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: Gene Schwartz > >Have any LAM users successfully imported the Logic Virus environment available on the site? > >I have not been able to get this environment successfully - but I am using a beta version of Logic - maybe it's broken? > >Gene > Hi Gene, the environment was programmed on Logic for Mac - not on Logic PC as Canine wrote on the homepage. I just added the extension .lso because it is easier for Logic for Windows to identify the file as a Logic file. I would recommend to just load the song if you have a Mac or import it if you have a PC. Well, it also might be beause of the beta..... Hi Canine, sorry that you misunderstood me but maybe it would be better to change the text at the download page.... With regards RAy > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 13:25:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 20:01:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Logic environment * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Raymund Beyer > >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>Have any LAM users successfully imported the Logic Virus environment available on the site? >> >>I have not been able to get this environment successfully - but I am using a beta version of Logic - maybe it's broken? >> >>Gene >> >Hi Gene, > >the environment was programmed on Logic for Mac - not on Logic PC as Canine wrote on the homepage. I just added the extension .lso because it is easier for Logic for Windows to identify the file as a Logic file. I would recommend to just load the song if you have a Mac or import it if you have a PC. Well, it also might be beause of the beta..... > Problem is that I've tried loading it as a song, importing it as a MIDI file, and importing the environment, and in each case there was nothing in there that even resembled a Virus environment. BTW, I am not a Logic beginner. So either I'm spacing out something awful, the beta version of Logic I'm using is flaky, or it's just not in there. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 16:11:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 13:45:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Logic environment * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:34 Uhr +0200 on 09.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Hi Canine, > >sorry that you misunderstood me but maybe it would be better to change the text at the download page.... sure, I will, sorry for causing any confusion... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 13:41:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 9 May 98 13:46:05 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Logic environment * From: Raymund Beyer >>the environment was programmed on Logic for Mac - not on Logic PC as Canine wrote on the homepage. I just added the extension .lso because it is easier for Logic for Windows to identify the file as a Logic file. I would recommend to just load the song if you have a Mac or import it if you have a PC. Well, it also might be beause of the beta..... >Problem is that I've tried loading it as a song, importing it as a MIDI file, and importing the environment, and in each case there was nothing in there that even resembled a Virus environment. BTW, I am not a Logic beginner. >So either I'm spacing out something awful, the beta version of Logic I'm using is flaky, or it's just not in there. Gene, iīm sorry you are having problems downloading the environment. Well I just tried it myself and my browsers (IE+Netscape) both recognize the file as a text file... So - you can try to alternativly download it from my webspace at ftp://members.aol.com/brainray/Virus/ I did a testdownload with a small Mac and I was able to load the song into the Micrologic application. So everything should be o.k. with this file. Hope this helps Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 00:28:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:59:06 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Bugs in 1.53 * From: "Howard Scarr" Had an interesting one today! I got a message - something like "Parapeek - illegal number". Maybe there's still some debug code in there, or maybe it's useful? Can't remember how I got it, though. Also I expected that, when naming patches, the KnobMode would be "Jump" by default! Oh well...maybe next time. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 19:52:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:50:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: Re: Logic environment * From: Gene Schwartz > >iīm sorry you are having problems downloading the environment. Well I just tried it myself and my browsers (IE+Netscape) both recognize the file as a text file... >So - you can try to alternativly download it from my webspace at ftp://members.aol.com/brainray/Virus/ >I did a testdownload with a small Mac and I was able to load the song into the Micrologic application. So everything should be o.k. with this file. Hope this helps > >Ray > I'll try this - but I was able to load the song - it just didn't contain anything resembling a Virus environment. Generally, if Netscape brings these over as a text file, all you need to do is change the file type and creator to match a Logic song, and you're ok. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 9 20:06:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 11:04:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: Re: Logic environment * From: Gene Schwartz > >> >>iīm sorry you are having problems downloading the environment. Well I just tried it myself and my browsers (IE+Netscape) both recognize the file as a text file... >>So - you can try to alternativly download it from my webspace at ftp://members.aol.com/brainray/Virus/ >>I did a testdownload with a small Mac and I was able to load the song into the Micrologic application. So everything should be o.k. with this file. >>Hope this helps >> >>Ray >> > >I'll try this - but I was able to load the song - it just didn't contain anything resembling a Virus environment. > >Generally, if Netscape brings these over as a text file, all you need to do is change the file type and creator to match a Logic song, and you're ok. > >Gene OK - this file worked properly. It still came over as a text file, but Logic can deal with this as a file to import (or you can change the type and creator) - but the difference was that this file contained the proper Virus environment objects. (Won't get a chance to actually try it out today, though.) Are you sure that the file at the Virus site is exactly the same? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 00:13:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 18:19:52 -0400 Subject: Re: backup before uploading new os * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net gene all my sequencing muyi's stayed the same????? remember if you dont need the patches dont load in the second part of the op system!!! cheers weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 00:18:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 18:25:28 -0400 Subject: Re: patches * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net rob pappen is programmer in holland. after 15 years of synths, his virus factory patches are by far the best of any factories ive heard. for people making music, the time it takes to program is not always available-so many people find 3rd party sounds such a attractive option, ecspecially when there not shite and great stuff like robs!!! cheers weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Onno" > >I would like to know how i can get the manual or atleast get a pdf file or something that's downloadable.I got my virus last week but there is no manual with it.The only thing i got was some card saying i could buy sounds from Rob Papen.Who is Rob..? >Why would someone make sounds on a fully controllable machine like the virus anyway.The preset day are over for me.I just want the goddam manual when i buy something. > >Has anyone got one that's internet sendable > >Mail me back then thanks in advance i can't get the multi part working good yet on midi etc. some button config i gues > >See ya thanks for the list K9 or should i say Sir K9? > >See ya on the A-side >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 00:25:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 18:31:37 -0400 Subject: 1.53 * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net did not see a readme for 1.53 what exactly was changed????? and fixed????? was the output level raised (or did my hearing improve??? :-) weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 05:52:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 20:50:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: backup before uploading new os * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >gene > >all my sequencing muyi's stayed the same????? remember if you dont need the patches dont load in the second part of the op system!!! >cheers >weld Of course I remembered that. But even if I had loaded in the patches, the multi should have contained the same numerical patches, correct? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 08:47:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 07:51:46 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Helpful hints and tricks... * From: Guenther Albrecht i tried the hold pedal hint (with 1.53) but had no perception of any difference between ctrl 64 full level/zero. ??? regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 10:00:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 10 May 98 10:03:08 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Sounddiver Adapition available! * From: Raymund Beyer Hi infected people, there is now a virus adaption available for the Sound Diver from Emagic. It works so far as a bankloader. The only thing thats missing is that you have to do an aktive dump to send the sounds to the application. And maybe it will only work if your device ID is set to 1. Well, Malte Rogacki who did the adaption told me he would complete the adaption in a few weeks or so. The download ULRs are: The Upgrade of Sound Diver to Version 2.05 for Mac: http://www.emagic-mirror.com/pub/updates/macos/sounddiver/sounddiver-205.si t The adaption: http://www.emagic-mirror.com/pub/updates/macos/sounddiver/virus.sit For Windows: http://www.emagic.de/german/updates/sodiwin.html Have fun Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 11:25:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 10:28:45 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Galaxy & OMS * From: Guenther Albrecht I put the Galaxy files on my site. You can get them at and also find information concerning the capabilities. regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 10 23:18:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 12:28:34 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Helpful hints and tricks... * From: "Howard Scarr" >* From: Guenther Albrecht i tried the hold pedal hint (with 1.53) but had no perception of any difference between ctrl 64 full level/zero. ??? The difference is a physical one - you don't use a keyboard? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 07:21:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 01:20:18 EDT Subject: Re: DSP Again * From: Elhardt <> Someone asked the question above and it has gone unanswered. I too was wondering what DSP/DSPs most of these new virtual synths are using ( myself being an assembly language programmer and all ) ? Could just break the seal and open the unit if it didn't void the warranty. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 08:07:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:08:22 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Helpful hints and tricks... * From: Guenther Albrecht I used my Akai MC76 masterkeyboard with a foot switch plugged in the sustain terminal (sending ctrl 64 according to the manual). pressing the pedal did have the effect of stopping the held note (like pressing hold: on a 2nd time). next i will try using a switch connected to my studio 5, so any problems concerning latch-type (could be a problem with the Akai) can be ruled out. does it work with you? regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 13:02:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:01:54 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Bugs in 1.53 * From: "Howard Scarr" Hi Canine Sadly, the latest OS seems just as buggy as always - I would like to be able to *trust* the Virus, but I just can't. Access is not Microsoft, and can't afford to get a bad name. 1) I'm having trouble using Definable1 and Definable2 - they often seem to want to stay global when I have set them local. 2) My Virus crashes (after tweaking a Definable) and displays Parapeek.S51 ... PARAPEEK:ILLEGAL ParameterNumber Is one or more of the Access team on this mailing list? If not, maybe you could convince them that what is written here could affect sales... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 13:57:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:52:26 +0200 Subject: Re: DSP Again * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:20 Uhr +0200 on 11.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Elhardt > ><> > >Someone asked the question above and it has gone unanswered. I too was wondering what DSP/DSPs most of these new virtual synths are using ( myself being an assembly language programmer and all ) ? Could just break the seal and open the unit if it didn't void the warranty. > >-Elhardt No need for that, access wrote a reply: We use a Motorola DSP 56303. This DSP is also used in Microwave II/XT and Nord Modular. Actually the Modular includes 4 of them in the basis version. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 13:57:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:55:44 +0200 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 13:01 Uhr +0200 on 11.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Is one or more of the Access team on this mailing list? If not, maybe you could convince them that what is written here could affect sales... Access is listening and takes bugreports very seriously. All issues (bugs) that have been mentioned here have been addressed and rest assured that Access is working on the virus to fix all bugs. Strange enough it seems a bug that has been in several versions only surfaces after a new version (fixing other bugs) has been released. I don't know about the definable problem but it has happened before. I am sure we can expect a fix in the near future. all the best. or as german HTML coders say: gruszlig... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 14:47:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:42:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: Mark Terry >Sadly, the latest OS seems just as buggy as always - I would like to be able to *trust* the Virus, but I just can't. Access is not Microsoft, and can't afford to get a bad name. As someone who is about to spend 900 UK pounds on this synth, I would like to know the extent of these bugs. I can cope with bugs that make life a little annoying, but complete crash bugs, or bugs that screw up the sound randomly on playback of MIDI files are completely impossible to live with. -Mark- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 16:49:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:33:30 +0200 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 14:42 Uhr +0200 on 11.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >As someone who is about to spend 900 UK pounds on this synth, I would like to know the extent of these bugs. I can cope with bugs that make life a little annoying, but complete crash bugs, or bugs that screw up the sound randomly on playback of MIDI files are completely impossible to live with. No, we are not talking about anything as bad as that, it's just little things that make some tasks annoying. Depending on how you use the virus the last problem about the "Definables" can be major or minor, but nothing to lose much sleep about if you are using it in the studio, little to lose sleep about if you play live. It will work anyway and there are easy workarounds. I'm not trying to say "no problem" I am just saying "no *big* deal"...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 17:23:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:22:44 +0200 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Subject: Re: DSP Again * From: etmsawe@etm.ericsson.se (Sander Wesseling) >><>being an assembly language programmer and all ) ? Could just break the seal and open the unit if it didn't void the warranty. .. >We use a Motorola DSP 56 303. ^^^ did Motorola write 'pun intended' on the chip? ;) grtz, Sander. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 15:07:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:26:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: "Howard Scarr" >As someone who is about to spend 900 UK pounds on this synth, I would like to know the extent of these bugs. I can cope with bugs that make life a little annoying, but complete crash bugs, or bugs that screw up the sound randomly on playback of MIDI files are completely impossible to live with. The bugs are not random - but it's sometimes difficult to find the "workarounds" (as Canine puts it). Schoumlne Gruumlszlige... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 11 23:16:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:15:02 -0700 Subject: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Hi All, Well I checked with EuroSynth and they don't have the Access Virus in stock. What are the other decent-price places I can buy a Virus here in the US? My local Guitar Center (here in Los Angeles) has them in stock - I could go pick one up today if I wanted to spend US$1400, which I don't... because I'm sure I've seen them cheaper. So it's a trade-off -- save a few hundred bucks and wait a while for my Virus to arrive, or go to Guitar Center tonight and spend top dollar for it? What do you guys think? Give me the best place to buy one!! I'm very eager, and if I don't spend this cash soon, it's bound to get allocated to other things, heh heh! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 02:40:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:39:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Hi All, > >Well I checked with EuroSynth and they don't have the Access Virus in stock. > >What are the other decent-price places I can buy a Virus here in the US? My local Guitar Center (here in Los Angeles) has them in stock - I could go pick one up today if I wanted to spend US$1400, which I don't... because I'm sure I've seen them cheaper. > >So it's a trade-off -- save a few hundred bucks and wait a while for my Virus to arrive, or go to Guitar Center tonight and spend top dollar for it? What do you guys think? Give me the best place to buy one!! > >I'm very eager, and if I don't spend this cash soon, it's bound to get allocated to other things, heh heh! > > Try Music Central - John Mika's a nice guy, and he'll match Eurosynth's price. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 03:09:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:06:56 -0700 Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Try Music Central - John Mika's a nice guy, and he'll match Eurosynth's price. > Thanks, I ordered and my Virus will arrive tomorrow! Wahoo! Finally! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 03:25:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:33:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net sometimes my definable knobs value dont change at all no matter how vigourously i turn them, and sometimes they only go up 54-56???????? bugs and all-the virus is still is the bomb weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 03:25:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:33:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net do we have a readme for 1.53 yet??????? weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 06:37:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:36:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: b La rock --- V1.53 New Features and Bugfix - A new timeout window avoids unwanted switching and so erasing of an edited multi program - The Definable potis are now definable as pure MIDI controllers to control other MIDI units. (described in the manual) - Problems of SysEx parameterchange process fixed. - Problems of Midi out / Soft Thru fixed - Problems of DSP process management fixed (simultaneous incoming Notes and Control changes could produce strange noise or crackle in some situations). access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >do we have a readme for 1.53 yet??????? weld >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 06:51:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:50:36 EDT Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: Elhardt <> I see by a later message that you bought one, but for anybody else looking for one, I ordered one from Guitar Center a month ago and paid $1250 (They matched Music Centrals price). Eurosynth and Music Central both didn't have them at that time. Most of these places will match anybody elses price if it is lower. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 08:16:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:08:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Dear liste, a statement by Access about the alleged bug in 1.53. Please, everybody in the future make sure that you can *reproduce* a bug reliably before you start rambling about "how something might affect sales". This is not a forum to flame a company if you haven't read your manual or just to express your frustration. If you think you have found a bug, post a note (it *does* help to be polite) on the list asking if others experience the same problem. After all the possibility exists that *you* might be doing something wrong or that there is something wrong about the soundpatch, Multi or your virus' hardware. so please be careful about allegations like this. I am glad we have such a close contact to the manufacturer but this might not stay this way if people on the list start flaming Access... thank you for your understanding and cooperation... << * From: "Howard Scarr" Dear Howard, >1) I'm having trouble using Definable1 and Definable2 - they often seem to want to stay global when I have set them local. This is not a bug; the Virus takes a half second to switch from global to local (single) due to technical reasons. >2) My Virus crashes (after tweaking a Definable) and displays >Parapeek.S51 >... >PARAPEEK:ILLEGAL >ParameterNumber After testing the Definables in any setting, we couldn't reproduce this. Anybody else? You should reset your Virus as described in the readme file and test it again. If this situation still occurs, please describe the setting of the definables where it occurs. >Sadly, the latest OS seems just as buggy as always - I would like to be able to *trust* the Virus, but I just can't. Access is not Microsoft, and can't afford to get a bad name. Nice compliment to V1.53! Do you know any bug that you found in 1.52 that still appears in 1.53? Actually, from what we know, we fixed every bug, that we or our beta testers experienced, or that we heard from the mailing list, in 1.53. (Thanks for your support!) As you can imagine, the Virus OS is a highly complex system, maybe one of the most complex in the virtual analog world. It combines many features in an intelligent way: 16 part multimode, Adaptive Control Smoothing for ALL continous parameter, controller assign to most continous parameters on a high time and value resolution multi output, multi external inputs, auxiliary sums, multi effects Midi clock chase, and in the middle a virtual analog synth core with its own complexity. .. and all this at the same time, you know this. Wo gehobelt wird, fallen Späne. Due to this complexity, some malfunctions of the interaction between these features were detected only weeks after software release, although we are in permanent contact to our beta testers and dozens of users. OUr main policy will always be: "fix the bugs before implementing new features"! >Is one or more of the Access team on this mailing list? If you have read the mailing list carefully the last weeks, you will have found some comments and remarks from us. >If not, maybe you could convince them that what is written here could affect sales... I hope that your bug report will not affect sales. Have fun Christoph Kemper ACCESS DON'T WAIT AND TOUCH ME think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 11:21:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:21:42 +0200 Organization: Alchemy Recordings Subject: Roaches or Ants Hello Virus Users I just wanted to put in a good word for what I think is one of the most veritile, powerful, and LOGICAL synths that I have come across!! Until recently I had 'just' been using my Virus in the studio. For the last two weeks I have been rehearsing with it and have been amazed at the possibilities it offers (sending sounds through the external inputs and gating them with the Virus' arpegiator with an exact BPM!!) and of course throuroughly impressed by its sound!! I have had my Virus for almost a year now (I got one of the first 50) and other than the early systems have not had any major problems...at least none that I'm not willing to live with, considering how quickly the Virus team gets the bugs fixed!! Keep up the good work!! If anybody wants to see the Virus live in action and lives anywhere near Berlin, they should stop by the Kalkscheune in Berlin on Thursday the 14th, to see the 'V Berlin Drum'n'Bass Lounge' and Westbam. w.X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 11:25:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:25:33 +0200 Organization: Alchemy Recordings Subject: new mail address * From: Warner Poland unsubscribe ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 15:50:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:53:18 -0400 (EDT) cc: Jack Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: Jack just tell guitar center that eurosynth has it for cheaper and they should match the price(eurosynth will go down to about $1150). of course don't mention to guitar center that it's not currently in stock :) also, try music central(i'll dig up the url if you need it). they should be able to go $1150 or at least $1200. good luck... On Mon, 11 May 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Hi All, > >Well I checked with EuroSynth and they don't have the Access Virus in stock. > >What are the other decent-price places I can buy a Virus here in the US? My local Guitar Center (here in Los Angeles) has them in stock - I could go pick one up today if I wanted to spend US$1400, which I don't... because I'm sure I've seen them cheaper. > >So it's a trade-off -- save a few hundred bucks and wait a while for my Virus to arrive, or go to Guitar Center tonight and spend top dollar for it? What do you guys think? Give me the best place to buy one!! > >I'm very eager, and if I don't spend this cash soon, it's bound to get allocated to other things, heh heh! > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry >jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com >| la, calif. > >PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > Save organic foods! go here - http://saveorganic.org/ ------- icq - #5680665 - this is my icq #, not that you'd care... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 15:04:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:02:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" Just a comment: John and Music Central set me up with my Virus, MWXT, and Pulse. He's a good guy! Give him your business. Jim ---------- From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 8:07 PM To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Try Music Central - John Mika's a nice guy, and he'll match Eurosynth's price. > Thanks, I ordered and my Virus will arrive tomorrow! Wahoo! Finally! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 16:07:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:10:02 -0400 (EDT) cc: Jack Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: Jack i've got a question about the external inputs on the virus: can you use the external in's at the same time that you are using the virus for outputing internal sounds? what i mean is, can the virus be a tone-module and a filter box at the same time? if yes, how do you determine what filter settings are effecting the external inputs. it would be ideal if the external in's could be just another part in a multi. you could have parts 1-3 playing synth sound for example and then have part 4 doing filtering on the external inputs. is this the way it works? also, how does use of the external in's affect the polyphony count? thanks, jack ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 18:28:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re[2]: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Buying a VIRUS -- help! Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 5/12/98 8:02 AM >* From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" >Just a comment: John and Music Central set me up with my Virus, MWXT, and Pulse. He's a good guy! Give him your business. >Jim Does anyone have any contact info for Music Central..phone...etc.? Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 17:19:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:15:51 -0700 Subject: RE: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 08:02 AM 5/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >* From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" > >Just a comment: John and Music Central set me up with my Virus, MWXT, and Pulse. He's a good guy! Give him your business. > Yeah -- that's exactly who I bought from! Should arrive any minute now -- I even got to work *extremely* early so I can get it as soon as possible... heh heh! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 18:56:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:55:48 -0500 (CDT) cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: Triet Nguyen just wanted to add more to this comment this is something i see all the time with users who report bugs. if you can't give the company a reproducible case,then how can you expect them to fix it? Fixing bugs is not guesswork. simply saying "well, it crashed" it not very helpful at all. On Tue, 12 May 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: * * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" * * Dear liste, * * a statement by Access about the alleged bug in 1.53. Please, everybody in * the future make sure that you can *reproduce* a bug reliably before you * start rambling about "how something might affect sales". This is not a * forum to flame a company if you haven't read your manual or just to express * your frustration. If you think you have found a bug, post a note (it *does* * help to be polite) on the list asking if others experience the same * problem. After all the possibility exists that *you* might be doing * something wrong or that there is something wrong about the soundpatch, * Multi or your virus' hardware. ___________________________________________________ Triet Nguyen - http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/triet ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 18:56:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:55:48 -0500 (CDT) cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: Triet Nguyen just wanted to add more to this comment this is something i see all the time with users who report bugs. if you can't give the company a reproducible case,then how can you expect them to fix it? Fixing bugs is not guesswork. simply saying "well, it crashed" it not very helpful at all. On Tue, 12 May 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: * * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" * * Dear liste, * * a statement by Access about the alleged bug in 1.53. Please, everybody in * the future make sure that you can *reproduce* a bug reliably before you * start rambling about "how something might affect sales". This is not a * forum to flame a company if you haven't read your manual or just to express * your frustration. If you think you have found a bug, post a note (it *does* * help to be polite) on the list asking if others experience the same * problem. After all the possibility exists that *you* might be doing * something wrong or that there is something wrong about the soundpatch, * Multi or your virus' hardware. ___________________________________________________ Triet Nguyen - http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/triet ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 19:09:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:09:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: 1.53 reports * From: "Howard Scarr" Sorry to the Access team if my "bugs in 1.53" message sounded like a flame. It wasn't meant to be. It can be difficult to hit the right note when words are written instead of spoken, but I will try to be more careful in future. About Canines message: >...After all the possibility exists that *you* might be doing something wrong... I always make a point of trying to eliminate this possibility. I used to write code for AutoCAD apps in C, and know how difficult it can be to tell where problems originate ;-)) >...or that there is something wrong about the soundpatch, Multi or... I call these "bugs", don't you? Patches as such should never be called "faulty" - it's how the settings are interpreted by the OS which counts... --------------------------------------------- To Christoph Kemper Gruszlig Christoph! >>I'm having trouble using Definable1 and Definable2 - they often seem to want to stay global when I have set them local. >This is not a bug; the Virus takes a half second to switch from global to local (single) due to technical reasons. It might be better to disable the Definables altogether for this period. Unwanted tempo changes, for instance, are not very musical... Anyway - I should have been more precise: In Multi-mode, my Virus doesn't always update Definables, but often (sorry about that word!) only after I have crossed the original stored global setting (I use Jump while editing, but Snap while playing). Can you reproduce this? I could send you a patch where this happens (on my machine), if you think that might help. >>My Virus crashes (after tweaking a Definable) and displays Parapeek.S51 >>PARAPEEK:ILLEGAL >>ParameterNumber >After testing the Definables in any setting, we couldn't reproduce this. You should reset your Virus as described in the readme file and test it again. If this situation still occurs, please describe the setting of the definables where it occurs. Still occurs. I routed one of them via a MIDI controller to control Cutoff: Definable1: Mode = Single, Lfo2->Cutoff2, Global = Clock Tempo, MIDI off Definable2: Mode = Single, Breath, Global = EffectSend, MIDI off (Assign 2 source = Breath, destination = cutoff, amount = -30) (Def.1 causes the trouble) Could this problem be patch-specific (e.g. under/overflow etc.)? >Do you know any bug that you found in 1.52 that still appears in 1.53? No! >...Wo gehobelt wird, fallen Sp”ne. Der Virus wird sicherlich ein fantastisches Werk - nachdem gekehrt wird, sind wir alle glļcklich :-) ************************ To anyone reading this who might have been put off by my "bug report" - the Virus is the only synth I've owned since my first (EMS AKS in 1973) which has kept me awake all night - for all the best reasons! ************************ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 19:24:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:21:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Does anyone have any contact info for Music Central..phone...etc.? > Its all here: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 19:30:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:30:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Jack > >i've got a question about the external inputs on the virus: > >can you use the external in's at the same time that you are using the virus for outputing internal sounds? what i mean is, can the virus be a tone-module and a filter box at the same time? if yes, how do you determine what filter settings are effecting the external inputs. > There are two relevant input modes for external audio. 'Static', and 'dynamic'. Static mode requires no trigger for the filtered external audio. Dynamic requires notes to trigger it. The oscillators do not function for sounds that use these modes. HOWEVER: Noise is still available. But, the best way to combine the tone module and filter box aspects of the Virus is to use it in multi mode. Because of the auxilliary inputs and outputs you can come up with some pretty wacked out setups, with patches being inbred to the point of serious impropriety. All this while playing Virus originated synth sounds on other channels until your voices run out. It, however, can be confusing figuring out just what is doing what. The present OS configures input source as a patch parameter, and output destination as a multi parameter. This adds to the confusion, I think. I'm hoping a good computer editor will make this easier to troubleshoot eventually. But, with power comes responsibility....:). >it would be ideal if the external in's could be just another part in a multi. you could have parts 1-3 playing synth sound for example and then have part 4 doing filtering on the external inputs. is this the way it works? also, how does use of the external in's affect the polyphony count? > See above. The patches that use external ins use polyphony, the # of notes depending on whether they are in twin mode or not. I believe that Access will try to get Static mode to work without using voices - I vaguely recall a response from them (privately) stating this, but I may be wrong. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 20:10:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Cc: "'Music Central'" Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:09:31 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: Re[2]: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" (612) 782-6954 vco@primenet.com Minneapolis, Mn, USA. (No, I'm not an equity partner! Just a happy customer) Jim ---------- From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 9:04 AM To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re[2]: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Buying a VIRUS -- help! Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 5/12/98 8:02 AM >* From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" >Just a comment: John and Music Central set me up with my Virus, MWXT, >and Pulse. He's a good guy! Give him your business. >Jim Does anyone have any contact info for Music Central..phone...etc.? Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 20:13:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:13:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re[2]: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: Gene Schwartz http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ See 'contact info' there. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 21:29:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:27:14 -0700 Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com Subject: I have been infected... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan It's true. I'm officially infected. It has ARRIVED!! First thought: damned nice piece o' gear. My quest to play "Cosmonaut Jay on Mir" is becoming more and more feasible. I could hold down the plus key in the dark (Single mode) for a couple of hours or until I have an epileptic seizure, whichever comes first... V1.51 OS... hmm... just outta the box and I already have to upgrade it. Good thing it's easy to do, eh boys? Well, I'll see just how easy it is with my QY700 anyway. (I don't use computers for music writing, only music recording.) Without question, it's a very easy to use interface. I was navigating around, tweaking things in the different factory presets with great ease. This box is *all about* live performance... wonder if all those knob changes are recordable? Never mind, I'll find out later. Manual is interesting -- pretty easy to follow along, though a bit on the German technifusion side, which is actually a bit of a relief after all the Japlansations I've been subjected to recently. Ah, the music world is sooo multi-cultural, eh? Cool, I can finally chuck the arpeggiator in my CS1X. Trigger the CS1X (I will admit, I do have some nice CS1X sounds) from the Virus, overlay Virus-stuff on top, instant slippyfest. (Quaint how I slip in a perverse reference to Underworld, eh?) First Major Gripe: WHAT?!! NO XG Piano? What sorta crap is this? How'm I gonna play my "Manilow MIDI Mania, CD #2" collection on this thing? Anyways, I'm very happy. It's definitely a great new device, I'm gonna stay up really late with it tonight... talk to you all later. Cosmonaut Jay on Mir, OUT!!! [Oh, in case you didn't know, I'm talking about the Access Virus. (http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access/virus.html)] j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 22:01:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:49:52 +0200 Subject: Re: 1.53 reports * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 19:09 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >************************ >To anyone reading this who might have been put off by my "bug report" - the Virus is the only synth I've owned since my first (EMS AKS in 1973) which has kept me awake all night - for all the best reasons! ************************ Hi Howard, yes, I have been slightly put off by the initial bug report and must say I understand your case much better now, sorry if I sounded bitter but you must admit your first posting was not really helpful... This posting should make some things clear and should give Christoph some good hints on what might be affecting your virus. Of course I couldn't have known that you were a programmer yourself... >>...or that there is something wrong about the soundpatch, Multi or... >I call these "bugs", don't you? Patches as such should never be called "faulty" - it's how the settings are interpreted by the OS which counts... Well, I was referring to something that wouldn't surprise me in something as complex as a modern synthesizer, I don't know if a situation like this would even be possible with the virus: That an illegal value for some parameter is stored in the sound and suddenly the machine hangs whenever you call up that sound. I haven't seen this in the virus and could well imagins that this is altogether impossible. But this was the thing I meant. Well I hope we canall help to make the Virus the best synth for all of us by providing Access with all the information on possible bugs -- I know it doesn't seem fair to be used as a beta tester, but remember that most people on this list (and there are over 100 by now) have no complaints (hm... then again, wonder if they have a virus yet...:)) just kidding) so most things seem to be working just as they should. Let#s just be glad the Virus uses Motorola DSP assembler and no Windows CE or none of us would be able to make any music with it at all...;)) peace. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 22:01:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:54:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 15:10 Uhr +0200 on 12.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Jack > >i've got a question about the external inputs on the virus: >it would be ideal if the external in's could be just another part in a multi. you could have parts 1-3 playing synth sound for example and then have part 4 doing filtering on the external inputs. That's exactly how it works. Except that since you can use EXT L or EXT R on a sound, you could have two individual inputs, both mono, but once they are routed through the virus they can become stereo. Or you could have a stereo sound in, in that case the Virus uses two voices and you have the ability to use the "Twin Mode" paramters like LFO phase (for left and right), and others just like in regular twin mode. Since you are running the externals through a lot of the intestines of the virus (which means you are touching the DSP) it does affect your polyphony count. So if you are suffering from lack of polyphony there is just one thing you can do: get another virus...;)) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 12 23:15:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:14:32 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: I have been infected... * From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" Jay, That is pretty daring of you - to start a mail list in honor of a synth that you did not own until today! Thanks for doing so, all the same. And welcome to the ranks of the infected. Jim ---------- From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 2:27 PM To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com Subject: I have been infected... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan It's true. I'm officially infected. It has ARRIVED!! First thought: damned nice piece o' gear. My quest to play "Cosmonaut Jay on Mir" is becoming more and more feasible. I could hold down the plus key in the dark (Single mode) for a couple of hours or until I have an epileptic seizure, whichever comes first... V1.51 OS... hmm... just outta the box and I already have to upgrade it. Good thing it's easy to do, eh boys? Well, I'll see just how easy it is with my QY700 anyway. (I don't use computers for music writing, only music recording.) Without question, it's a very easy to use interface. I was navigating around, tweaking things in the different factory presets with great ease. This box is *all about* live performance... wonder if all those knob changes are recordable? Never mind, I'll find out later. Manual is interesting -- pretty easy to follow along, though a bit on the German technifusion side, which is actually a bit of a relief after all the Japlansations I've been subjected to recently. Ah, the music world is sooo multi-cultural, eh? Cool, I can finally chuck the arpeggiator in my CS1X. Trigger the CS1X (I will admit, I do have some nice CS1X sounds) from the Virus, overlay Virus-stuff on top, instant slippyfest. (Quaint how I slip in a perverse reference to Underworld, eh?) First Major Gripe: WHAT?!! NO XG Piano? What sorta crap is this? How'm I gonna play my "Manilow MIDI Mania, CD #2" collection on this thing? Anyways, I'm very happy. It's definitely a great new device, I'm gonna stay up really late with it tonight... talk to you all later. Cosmonaut Jay on Mir, OUT!!! [Oh, in case you didn't know, I'm talking about the Access Virus. (http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access/virus.html)] j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 01:23:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:23:49 Subject: Rackmount Kit * From: s-dominic@usa.net Hi everyone, I'm new to this list so excuse me if this has already been covered. Is the optional rackmount kit available, and does anyone know where I could buy one in north america or canada? I didn't see anything about the kit in the faq. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 00:02:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:01:11 -0700 Subject: RE: I have been infected... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >That is pretty daring of you - to start a mail list in honor of a synth that you did not own until today! > Well, to be honest, I *almost* got one last year. You see, I had a Yamaha AN1X, but in a studio reorganization moment, decided that I really just didn't need it (I have a ton of other gear) and I needed the space on my keyboard stand -- so I sold it to a friend, thinking that I'd get myself a nice AN1X-Rack Mount version when Yamaha released it... since I don't need the keys. Well, they didn't release it. So I went off shopping for virt-ana's and made the decision to get the Virus after playing with one for a few hours (AN1X is cool too, but I have too much Yamaha gear, if you know what I mean...) So I had a Virus in hand overnight on demo, and I set up the list that night 'coz I like to either a) be on a list for gear I own, or b) set up a list for gear I own if it doesn't exist. (I like lists, they work great.) Alas, the Virus went back the next day because I had other bills to pay and couldn't come up with the cash right then and there, and ever since it's just not been a priority. But the last couple of weeks I've been stashing money aside to get it, and to be honest I've read every message on the list since I set it up, and you guys recently inspired me to just go get one. So I did! >Thanks for doing so, all the same. And welcome to the ranks of the infected. > Thank you very much, I'm glad to be a host for my Virus, and I hope to contribute more to it's survival! :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 02:32:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:40:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Rackmount Kit * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net dont know of anyone who's rack mounted the virus, i think we we all take it to bed with us under our pillows, plus to loose though wood sides might be sacreligous to the synth gods. but try geoff at gsf (or your dealer) if you can get ahold of him????? weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 02:57:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 Subject: Re: Rackmount Kit * From: Simon Gatrall On Tue, 12 May 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: s-dominic@usa.net > >Hi everyone, I'm new to this list so excuse me if this has already been covered. Is the optional rackmount kit available, and does anyone know where I could buy one in north america or canada? I didn't see anything about the kit in the faq. Contact the distributor. I got my kit from Geoff at the NAMM show. It's just two bent pieces of sheet metal. You have to remove the wooden side panels to rack it. I actually haven't tried the kit out yet - I haven't needed to. -s!mon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 10:03:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:00:31 -0700 Cc: access-list@teklab.com, a3k-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: For the Electronic Musicians * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Anyone played with those Roland MC-550 things? I tried one at Guitar Center here in L.A. Last week, and it confused the shit out of me. Now I'm not an idiot, but there are soooooooo many fucking buttons on the damn thing!!!! I think that the 550 may be going a bit overboard. Roland is trying to make the ultimate groove machine. I don't need a groovebox sequencing my tracks damnit. Errccchkkk... I *hate* those things. I was in that same Guitar Center tonight (godamn cheesy shit hole of a place at 9pm lemme tell you), and all I could hear was some moron with the volume cranked up to 11 trying to make the lightbeam thing adjust his rez so he could be 'acid cool' and get the store 'jamming'... I think I've discovered why salesguys at that place are mindless plebes, I mean I know I would be (am already) if I had to listen to that cheese box all day being tweaked by wannabe ravers. I *have* been to the odd rave or two where some guy is playing one, and it has been fun for a bit, but to be honest they're just not an inspiring instrument to me. I like the idea of having a box to do tracks with, instead of having to sit in front of a computer, though... (SU700 anyone?) Those Roland MC505 Cheeseboxes rank right up there with karaoke, if you ask me. Speaking of gear, I received my new Access Virus synthesizer today, been playing the living crap out of it... very, very nice piece of gear. Had a bit of a laugh when I walked into Guitar Center tonight (to get cables), and I overheard some classy LA musician-type guy motion in the direction of the Access Virus sitting there humbly atop one of those new very silver monster Korg workstations and say "yeah, the Virus is a pretty good 'lead' synth really, not much else"... man, LA musicians are dumb asses sometimes. Also asked the so-called sales guy if they'd been selling many Yamaha A3000 samplers (since I've fostered a bit of an international community of A3k users with the a3k-list, I figured I'd suss out what the 'local' scene was like), and his response was "no, those things don't sell well at all, you just don't think 'Yamaha' when you want to buy a sampler, plus they're really, really hard to use". My god. At that instant, in my mind, standing in the middle of this store that sells musical instruments, the sales dude just magically transmogrified himself into a tutu wearing pink elephant juggling a 50 year old set of Encyclopedia Britannica's while playing teenage porn games on his bright red oversized GameBoy -- his comment was *that* non sequitur and clueless. Don't these people even *know* what they're selling? Sheesh. Anyway, glad to know I'm not the only one in LA that can't stand those Roland boxes... Cosmonaut Mir on Jay, OUT!!! (No wait, got that wrong... ah, what the heck, it's Scott's line anyway, I always screw those things up...) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 10:02:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:02:28 +0200 Organization: COMPAREX Sistemas Inform·ticos. Subject: Sequencer * From: Roman Vargas Sierra Hi all, I was thinking how funny it will be to have a little step sequencer on the virus to make some instant fun with my Casio CZ101 as a MIDI keyboard during my travels. Is there any project to include this feature in the next OS? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 10:18:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:14:22 -0700 Subject: Small request * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan There's this interval that the Virus OS waits until it figures you're done turning a knob -- and then the display flashes back. I encountered it tonight trying to set arpeggiator speeds to sync with other gear. Well, I'd like it if there was *any* way possible that we could have a parameter page that sets how long to wait before considering your done turning a knob. I found that I was trying to turn the knob very slowly, ever so slowly, to get the right value that I wanted, but then the display timeout interval would drop to 0 and the display would flash back... Anyway, just a thought, maybe I should just get used to tweaking things first before I start making suggestions. Great synth btw. I'm up late playing with it, and I'm just about catatonic... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 11:55:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 05:55:06 EDT Subject: Re: LFO * From: WMorris116 How slow will the LFO's go on the critter? Thanks.....Will Morris ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 12:21:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [195.180.210.233] Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 03:20:47 PDT Subject: Re: 1.53 reports * From: "mab ;-P" >LetĨs just be glad the Virus uses Motorola DSP assembler and no Windows CE or none of us would be able to make any music with it at all...;)) Hehe, burn baby burn! - Think different. Matthias ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 12:55:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:50:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Sequencer * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:02 Uhr +0200 on 13.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I was thinking how funny it will be to have a little step sequencer on the virus to make some instant fun with my Casio CZ101 as a MIDI keyboard during my travels. > >Is there any project to include this feature in the next OS? >From all I heard, I don't think it will be possible, but I could be wrong. The user infterface would be complicated. Maybe they will. if you are looking for a cheap external sequencer, I don't know if it has been released yet, but Technosaurus (makers of a large modular synth) have come out with a DM 500 synth and a DM 500 mini sequencer. very small, very easy to use and they both only do like one thing... they are very small but aren't modules for a modular system but function on their own. try to get a hold of it... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 12:55:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:53:11 +0200 Subject: Re: Small request * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:14 Uhr +0200 on 13.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Well, I'd like it if there was *any* way possible that we could have a parameter page that sets how long to wait before considering your done turning a knob. there is, it's called Knob display and you can set it to "short", "long" or "on". On meaning the last parameter changed stays in the display forever. Until you change another of course. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 12:55:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:53:28 +0200 Subject: Re: LFO * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:55 Uhr +0200 on 13.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >How slow will the LFO's go on the critter? pretty slow...;) enjoy the sun... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 12:56:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:56:29 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: xxx Report * From: "Howard Scarr" (1.52, 1.53) Symptoms: Parts in a Multi are mute until MidiVolume and PartVolume parameters are changed repeatedly. What/When: Happens irregularly in two of my Multis. Different parts were affected in 1.52 and 1.53. Anybody seen similar? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 13:05:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:02:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Small request * From: "Howard Scarr" >Well, I'd like it if there was *any* way possible that we could have a parameter page that sets how long to wait before considering your done turning a knob. CTRL button -> SYSTEM, "KnobDispl" = off/short/long/on ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 13:04:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: rodneyh@magna.com.au Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:05:18 +1000 Subject: Re: For the Electronic Musicians * From: Rod MC303....MC505.....MCX0X.....SP808...Groovesynth....Just another mistake from Roland. They should just do a box that combines a real TB303, TR808, TR909, with MIDI. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 16:13:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:12:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Roland? * From: "Balabushko-Reay, Jim" >MC303....MC505.....MCX0X.....SP808...Groovesynth....Just another mistake >from Roland. >They should just do a box that combines a real TB303, TR808, TR909, with MIDI. Sure they should. Or you could (should) just buy fine synths from Germany that blow them out of the water. Roland will always do good "commercial" synths (the JV1080 is essential for jingles) - so give them credit where it is due: but if you want an excellent SYNTH, give Access or Waldorf your money (or, even Clavia!) Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 19:09:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:08:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Small request * From: Gene Schwartz > >Well, I'd like it if there was *any* way possible that we could have a parameter page that sets how long to wait before considering your done turning a knob. > Control/System/Knob display ? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 19:47:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:31:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Small request * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >At 10:14 Uhr +0200 on 13.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>Well, I'd like it if there was *any* way possible that we could have a parameter page that sets how long to wait before considering your done turning a knob. >there is, it's called Knob display and you can set it to "short", "long" or "on". On meaning the last parameter changed stays in the display forever. Until you change another of course. Ah, brilliant... reading the manual last night at 2am in the bathroom, I discovered this feature. Hah hah! I'm hooked... Discovered the factory multi's last night (been playing around in Single mode all day you see)... very interesting how they do that arpeggiated bass drum stuff... I'm definitely hooked. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 20:21:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:18:16 -0700 Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, sy85-list@teklab.com, cs1x-list@teklab.com, mu-list@teklab.com Subject: "Off Topic" defined for all TekLab lists (was Re: An1x-list) * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Every mailing list has off-topic conversations, some list more than others. (For instance, the a3k-list at TekLab is a bad example where people are asking questions like "how do I change the display resolution of my Mac".) These off-topic discussion are often quite interesting, because they come from people with a common interest. > As administrator of all teklab lists, I don't mind a bit of off-topic conversation now and then. But there has been a lot of discussion about topic-worthiness on a few TekLab lists, so I figured I'd mention some things on the subject. Typically, I have found that the conversation proves enlightening in the context of the list topic -- for example, on the a3k-list, an off topic discussion about mixers can resolve back to the best ways of integrating an A3000 for live sampling, etc. It makes for interesting reading, and occasionally there is a casual bit of knowledge gained from the discussion that forwards the use of the gear being discussed. This proves very valuable -- I know that many of the inexperienced and/or newbie list 'lurkers' (people that don't actively contribute, but read every message anyway) learn a lot from these small digressions, and eventually start contributing to the list in some way once their sphere of understanding expands enough to where they feel comfortable about posting to a public forum. (This is the process that creates guru's.) When it goes completely outside the context of the original topic -- i.e. we start talking about things like fishing or drugs, or how we hate another list subscriber for being a nerd or something, then I start to get a little antsy about bringing the list back on topic. But members of any TekLab mailing list should definitely recognize that I'm not rigid about off topic conversations, and that there is definitely value to be gained in discussing other related topics that have a contextual connection to the original topic of the list. I have observed over the years that there are various sphere's of relevance on a mailing list: a) Direct relevance -- i.e. the topic is directly related to the subject that the list was set up to discuss. "How do I get my AN1X to sound right?" "How do I get my AN1X to talk to my PC?" "Wow, the AN1X sounds so great I'm going to buy one for everyone on this list that doesn't have one, just coz it's cool and I'm rich." b) Similar relevance -- not directly related, but within the same context of the original subject matter. Talking about other samplers on the a3000 mailing list, for example, provides a similar frame of reference for the A3000 Sampler. Discussions about the pro's and con's of similar products from other competitors often prove very insightful. c) Contextual relevance -- not direct, not similar, but contextually related -- discussing effects processors to use with the AN1X, or how to set up a PC in a studio that uses an AN1X, and the problems associated with setting up a PC, etc. Another example of contextual relevance is on the dirtylist (a mailing list I'm on that discusses the band Underworld) - quite often, some electronic musician will turn the list into a gear discussion frenzy, and this will always come back to a recommendation for a band similar to Underworld, based on the observation of what musical instruments a person uses. d) Completely irrelevant -- has nothing to do with the original subject, contextually or otherwise, and is completely useless to the purposes of the list. For example, talking about how bad a certain band is, on the AN1X list, and/or flaming other users on the list. This is not necessarily a bad realm for a list to be in, but it's definitely indicative that the list has gone awry, and too much of this proves to be un-useful -- people start unsubscribing. As long as discussions on any of the teklab lists remain within the scope of a), b), and c), I'm perfectly happy as the list administrator. Good mailing lists often venture through a), b) and c) type discussions, and the c)-type's become b)-types, become a)-types, and this is when people really start to feel good about a mailing list, that they're gaining a lot from reading the messages, etc. Certainly, it's up to the individual members of the lists to direct the issues back to focus on the topic of the list as they see fit, as I'm not going to be a "List Fascist" (since I post messages in all realms sometimes anyway), but if you look at a), b), and c), there's a hierarchy to them and eventually the threads can be resolved back down to a more type a) relevance to the list. And in the meantime, the list becomes a useful tool for people to share knowledge with. Which is what it's all about. (Frank/Canine -- any chance you could pop this in a relevant place in the FAQ's for the TekLab lists you guys maintain?) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 00:55:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:58:27 +0000 Subject: Re: Buying a VIRUS -- help! * From: david curtiss I too urge people to shop through John at Music Central. I got my virus from him as well as some other pieces, and he has always been very helpful. I feel he is one of the few dealers who can really be objective and give you a reliable sense of what a product can do/ sounds like. Great guy. -curtis ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 13 21:36:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:34:50 -0700 Cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TR-rack * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 03:36 PM 5/13/98 -0400, you wrote: >* From "Tim Glenn" > >j, > >where can i get this virus? > >hmm.. whoa that sounded wierd... > Heh heh... I was in a restaurant last night talking to my friend Doug while I waited for my girl to show up -- and I said to Doug "Don't tell Seana about it, she doesn't know I got the Virus yet... I want to surprise her...", and the restaurant went dead silent. Ah, the joys of living in Los Angeles... >(gets his cootie shoots) > Start here: http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ And work your way to Access' web page... I can never remember the URL for these guys. Music Central has 'em for a good price here in the US, at least that's where I bought mine from: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 14 09:53:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 00:49:02 -0700 Subject: Suggestions for ROM upgrades... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan I'm not sure if it's possible (because the OS bootstrap code is probably in ROM), but something for Access to consider with perhaps future products, is to have audible cues play at the start and stop of the OS upgrade transfer. Tonight I've spent about 30 minutes trying to upgrade my Virus to OS1.53, and while I have had difficulties that I can overcome and handle myself, it would be really nice if: a) The virus played a small chime at the beginning of the transfer, meaning it's started. b) It played a short beep at the end of a successful transfer, or: c) It beeps an alert at the end of the transfer to say that something went wrong. Nothing too intricate, but I've sat here having to watch my Virus closely a few times tonight, so that I don't waste time coming back to discover something went wrong, and while I waited I figured I'd make this suggestion... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 14 09:54:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 00:51:24 -0700 Subject: BUG in Virus, or at least I consider it is... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Not trying to be alarmist or anything, but it'd be really, really nice if there were some way for the Virus to isolate it's output so that I don't get incredibly huge sharp clicks out of my monitors whenever I reset the Virus by turning it off and on... this sorta behaviour might have been cool for the 70's and the Guitar crowd, but in a DSP based synth with controllable output stages, it's a bit of a nuisance. And it doesn't matter what I do with the volume control, the Virus still clicks madly whenever it's powered off and on. Just something for the "To be considered for Virus2.0" list, in case it's too short! j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 14 11:54:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 11:40:50 +0200 Subject: Nuisance in Virus, or at least I consider it is... * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:51 Uhr +0200 on 14.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Not trying to be alarmist or anything, but it'd be really, really nice if there were some way for the Virus to isolate it's output so that I don't get incredibly huge sharp clicks out of my monitors whenever I reset the Virus by turning it off and on... this sorta behaviour might have been cool Definitely! get that sound away from there...! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 14 13:18:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:17:54 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: No faulty patches * From: "Howard Scarr" >...That an illegal value for some >parameter is stored in the sound and suddenly the machine hangs whenever you call up that sound. I haven't seen this in the virus and could well imagine that this is altogether impossible. But we did have the "X-Fatty" thread a while ago, which seemed to point towards this being possible. Haven't seen the same in 1.53 though, which is a good sign. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 15 08:31:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:35:11 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Bugs in 1.53 * From: Guenther Albrecht after getting feedback concerning my Galaxy-adaption for the Virus i am confused: if you do a single dump to the edit buffer (bank hex 40), the new patch name shows up only if you press control, multi etc. and single again. is the sequencer plays, sending patch dumps does not change the currently played sound... i even tried to send some param change afterwards - but no avail. is there a bug in this or is this a feature? dumping to the multi part buffers is just the same. so the only thing to do instant patch changes while playing is using stored data called up by prog changes. on the other hand, dumping the sysEx out of the sequencer (as recorded - in Galaxy i get rid of part or bank info) between tracks worked just fine. comments? .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 15 20:38:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 11:36:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Ohhh just the German Manual...Ich sprech nich deutch ; ) * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >I just got my Virus (1h ago) but only with a German manual (...glups...thanks...I guess....). Is there an English manual? I think I remember a few weeks ago there was some talk about an English manual in MSword (arghhh!!!) or PDF format, is it ready for download on any site? Where? > I just got my Virus too, but with an English manual, which by the way is excellent, I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it. >Excuse me but I have the "bad habit" of reading the manuals. I know that the machine is quite straight forward but it is easy to notice that to really dive >into it...one needs the manual. Well, I ordered mine from Germany (but my german is lousy ) and I guess that one day they will send me the english manual >(if there is one), but I really get "unconfortable..." when trying to read German. > I'm sure you could get one from Access if you asked them for it -- or as a last resort, I'd be happy to copy mine and send it to you. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 15 20:28:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:31:04 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Ohhh just the German Manual...Ich sprech nich deutch ; ) * From: "Paulo Abreu" Hello I just got my Virus (1h ago) but only with a German manual (...glups...thanks...I guess....). Is there an English manual? I think I remember a few weeks ago there was some talk about an English manual in MSword (arghhh!!!) or PDF format, is it ready for download on any site? Where? Excuse me but I have the "bad habit" of reading the manuals. I know that the machine is quite straight forward but it is easy to notice that to really dive into it...one needs the manual. Well, I ordered mine from Germany (but my german is lousy ) and I guess that one day they will send me the english manual (if there is one), but I really get "unconfortable..." when trying to read German. Please, HELP!!!! Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 15 20:50:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:54:02 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Ohhh just the German Manual...Ich sprech nich deutch ; ) * From: "Paulo Abreu" >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >I just got my Virus too, but with an English manual, which by the way is excellent, I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Ohh, yes...great (now I feel even worse... but still I finally got the virus...). >I'm sure you could get one from Access if you asked them for it -- or as a last resort, I'd be happy to copy mine and send it to you. OK, thanks a lot but I will try to get it from access anyway, originaly I was thinking about something already in an electronic format. Paulo Abreu --------------------------------------------------- Universidade Técnica de Lisboa Instituto Superior de Agronomia Dep.EngŠ.Rural 1399 Lisboa- Portugal T: 351-01-3638161 ext: 335 Fax: 351-01-3621575 e-mail: peabreu@isa.utl.pt --------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 15 20:50:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:54:02 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Ohhh just the German Manual...Ich sprech nich deutch ; ) * From: "Paulo Abreu" >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >I just got my Virus too, but with an English manual, which by the way is excellent, I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Ohh, yes...great (now I feel even worse... but still I finally got the virus...). >I'm sure you could get one from Access if you asked them for it -- or as a last resort, I'd be happy to copy mine and send it to you. OK, thanks a lot but I will try to get it from access anyway, originaly I was thinking about something already in an electronic format. Paulo Abreu --------------------------------------------------- Universidade Técnica de Lisboa Instituto Superior de Agronomia Dep.EngŠ.Rural 1399 Lisboa- Portugal T: 351-01-3638161 ext: 335 Fax: 351-01-3621575 e-mail: peabreu@isa.utl.pt --------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 17 07:46:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: redmac@pop3.rconnect.com Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 00:48:11 +0100 Subject: A simple question... * From: Mark Redenius How many rack spaces does the virus occupy? I need to make some room... :-) mark redmac@rconnect.com http://homepage.rconnect.com/redmac "Most of us don't know exactly what we want, but we're pretty sure we don't have it!" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 17 05:16:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 20:15:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Virus for sale * From: Gene Schwartz Yes, that's right. 2 months old, as new. Box and manual. $1100. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 17 05:17:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 20:17:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: re: Virus for sale * From: Gene Schwartz That's $1100 + shipping. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 17 09:51:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 07:46:31 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: A simple question... * From: Paul Nagle On Sun, 17 May 1998 00:48:11 +0100, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >How many rack spaces does the virus occupy? I need to make some room... :-) If mounted vertically, it depends on the size of your MIDI and audio connectors which would stick up at the top. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 17 21:35:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:33:29 -0700 Subject: Re: A simple question... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 07:46 AM 5/17/98 GMT, you wrote: >* From: Paul Nagle > >On Sun, 17 May 1998 00:48:11 +0100, access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >>How many rack spaces does the virus occupy? I need to make some room... :-) >If mounted vertically, it depends on the size of your MIDI and audio connectors which would stick up at the top. > I'd guess it'd probably take up 4 rack spaces, including MIDI and audio cable 'leg room'. You could reduce that if you get right-angle MIDI and phono jacks to plug into the rear end. For my purposes, I just ordered a sliding drawer for my 19" rack, and will put the Virus on it... pretty cool -- you can just slide it out when you want to use it, put it away pretty easily. This way, it only takes up 2 rack spaces, though I've got nothing mounted above the spot where I'm putting the Virus drawer so it's probably a little bit more than that. You should be able to get sliding rack drawers from any rack company, though if you look for them in the pro-electronics industry you'll get them cheaper than from pro audio retailers -- probably because the audio-rack industry generally tends to source its gear from the electronics industry, and subsequently marks things up... Stiffing us clueless musicians in the process. I don't have URL's handy, but you should be able to AltaVista a "+rack +19 +enclosure" pretty rapidly to find a good source... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 17 22:13:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:07:56 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Ohhh just the German Manual...Ich sprech nich deutch ; ) * From: "w.schneider" Hi Everybody, the manual is now available for download on www.tsi-gmbh.de/ in PDF-format keep on rocking!!!! Willi Schneider (JESTER'S TEARS) http://welcome.to/jesterstears -----Ursprļngliche Nachricht----- Von: access-list@teklab.com An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Freitag, 15. Mai 1998 23:30 Betreff: Re: Ohhh just the German Manual...Ich sprech nich deutch ; ) * From: "Paulo Abreu" >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >I just got my Virus too, but with an English manual, which by the way is excellent, I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Ohh, yes...great (now I feel even worse... but still I finally got the virus...). >I'm sure you could get one from Access if you asked them for it -- or as a last resort, I'd be happy to copy mine and send it to you. OK, thanks a lot but I will try to get it from access anyway, originaly I was thinking about something already in an electronic format. Paulo Abreu --------------------------------------------------- Universidade TČcnica de Lisboa Instituto Superior de Agronomia Dep.Eng.Rural 1399 Lisboa- Portugal T: 351-01-3638161 ext: 335 Fax: 351-01-3621575 e-mail: peabreu@isa.utl.pt --------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 17 21:59:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:12:33 Subject: Re: [A simple question...] * From: "DOMINIC S." access-list@tl36.teklab.com wrote: >* From: Mark Redenius > > >How many rack spaces does the virus occupy? I need to make some room... :-) It doesn't occupy any if you don't have the "optional rackmount kit" that nobody in the US carries. :) :/ It should occupy 4 but to make room for 1/4" plugs sticking out the top you'd need an extra 2 above it. This is all assuming you can find a kit(and if you do let me know where you ordered it!). ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 02:59:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 02:58:09 +0200 Priority: normal Cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re(2): [A simple question...] * From: Fabio.Todeschini@reflex.at (Fabio Todeschini) this offer _could maybe_ interest me, but i'd like to know why you want to get rid of it fabio ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 02:59:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 02:58:09 +0200 Priority: normal Cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re(2): [A simple question...] * From: Fabio.Todeschini@reflex.at (Fabio Todeschini) this offer _could maybe_ interest me, but i'd like to know why you want to get rid of it fabio ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 15:09:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:05:55 +0200 Subject: Manuals posted today * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Wolfram Franke of TSi wrote me today, the PDF manuals have been on the TSi site since friday, I have just posted them to my site (see signature for address) as well. (MaualS means German and English versionS. That's the plural...) so: fear no more. You will be infected...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 16:27:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:28:42 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Help!!! From Virus users * From: "Paulo Abreu" Hi I have been working with my virus this weekend and I really like it but...I'm not shure If I have any hardware problem (or anyother...) the fact is that, in some sounds, I get some ramdom Clicks and slight occasional distortions that are especially noticeable in these sounds: 1- A0 Overture K 2- A14 V-Pad 2 K 3- A35 V-Resoni K 4- Whew! Sounds 1,2 and 3 present some ocasional slight distortions when helding a few notes (4 or 5) for a long time (more than 30 seconds-1 min). The sound 4 has noticeable distortions almost as soon as you start using it. I am using System 1.52 (if that matters), and this happens in single mode. I would like to know if thats "normal" or if I have any hardware problem, I just received the virus a couple days ago.. And, yes I already have the English manual, it was a good idea to post the PDF. Thanks, Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 21:34:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 20:17:18 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Help!!! From Virus users * From: "Howard Scarr" >1- A0 Overture K >2- A14 V-Pad 2 K >3- A35 V-Resoni K >4- Whew! >Sounds 1,2 and 3 present some ocasional slight distortions when helding a few notes (4 or 5) for a long time (more than 30 seconds-1 min). The sound 4 has noticeable distortions almost as soon as you start using it. I would like to know if thats "normal" or if I have any hardware problem, I just received the virus a couple days ago.. These sounds overload the DACs if you play too many (low) notes at once. Not a bug - just a limitation of any reasonably-priced digital audio hardware. Simple to remedy - play a thick chord, turn down the PatchVolume until it stops breaking up and then store the sound. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 21:18:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:27:54 -0700 Subject: Q: How do i change the name ? * From: b La rock Hi, Sorry to be a Pain in the **** but i still cant work out how to change the name of a patch .. could someone please tell me ... Thanks PEACE. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 23:56:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:56:37 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:56:37 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: zwier@pop.pi.net Subject: Re: Help!!! From Virus users * From: "J.Zwier" Paulo, I had a same kind of problem, I guess. Ordering it by post from Germany, it came in a torn box. I had received broken speakers before, so I was afraid I had to ship it back immediately for repair. Especially when a few patches (actually a whole lot of them) in the B bank and the multibank didn't perform. I did some copying back and forth to reassure myself it was't the hardware. And then (thank God and ourselves for Special Interest Groups) I read on the net to press LFO1 Shape and LFO2 Shape together, in order to reload all the factory sounds. After, by the way, first looking half an hour in the manual for finding it. But it isn't there! So I don't know if you tried it, but I would press the " shapes". Greetings from Holland, Jan Zwier >* From: "Paulo Abreu" > >Hi > >I have been working with my virus this weekend and I really like it but...I'm not shure If I have any hardware problem (or anyother...) the fact is that, in some sounds, I get some ramdom Clicks and slight occasional distortions that are especially noticeable in these sounds: > >1- A0 Overture K >2- A14 V-Pad 2 K >3- A35 V-Resoni K >4- Whew! > >Sounds 1,2 and 3 present some ocasional slight distortions when helding a few notes (4 or 5) for a long time (more than 30 seconds-1 min). The sound 4 has noticeable distortions almost as soon as you start using it. > >I am using System 1.52 (if that matters), and this happens in single mode. > >I would like to know if thats "normal" or if I have any hardware problem, I just received the virus a couple days ago.. > >And, yes I already have the English >manual, it was a good idea to post the PDF. > > >Thanks, > >Paulo Abreu > > >------------------- >peabreu@isa.utl.pt > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! z_O__ |_ / /___| zwier ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 18 23:56:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: zwier@pop.pi.net Subject: wanted/gesucht Mac format OS v1.53 * From: "J.Zwier" I have a Virus and a Mac. I tried to load OS v1.53 into Logic Audio and Cubasis,after I downloaded the zip-file on my Mac, sent it to my PC at work, unzipped it, and saved it in PC format. As you would (not!) expect, I got all kind of strange error messages in Logic Audio ( event status running, whatever that may be) and Cubasis ( insufficient blocks in the MIDI file for the Virus to receive). So the question is: is there anyone who wants to send me the v1.53 midi files ( only number 1 is needed) and if possible the Rob Papen virus3rp.mid patches (or are they for release OS v1.02 only?) (stuffed or uncompressed) from his/her Mac? That would be nice. Greetings from Holland. Ich habe ein Virus und ein Mac. Ich habe versucht OS v1.53 mit Logic Audio und Cubasis zu importieren, nachdem ich die zip-file in meinen Mac gedownload hatte, nach meine PC an die Arbeitsstelle geschickt hatte, unzipped hatte und in PC format weggeschrieben hatte. Und was geschah? Nur Meldungen von Fehler. Frag: hat einer die OS v1.53 (nur nummer 1 brauche ich) und/oder die Rob Papen virus3rp.mid (wirkt das unter 1.53?) in Mac format und will er/sie die mich senden, komprimiert oder nicht. Schon vielen Dank. Gruesse aus Holland. Jan Zwier zwier@pi.net z_O__ |_ / /___| zwier ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 12:57:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:15:44 +0100 Subject: Twin Mode (Was: Re: Help!!! From Virus users) * From: Schorsch >These sounds overload the DACs if you play too many (low) notes at once. Not a bug - just a limitation of any reasonably-priced digital audio hardware. Simple to remedy - play a thick chord, turn down the PatchVolume until it stops breaking up and then store the sound. Maybe it helps to turn off the twin mode. This mode plays a patch on two channels to make it more vital. But twin mode "steals" channels from the virus. ->Schorsch ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 06:17:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 06:18:07 +0200 Subject: Q: low, loud, fat? dear list, when i use to play the bassdrum a90 at any channel and set the punch to 105 and the phase init to 127 the sound is clear for each tick { 1 2 3 4}. however when i enable an other channel the sound occours one time loud one time fat and one time very low... and so on! WHY??? Help! Please! marcX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 08:03:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 08:04:09 +0200 Subject: idea hey ya guys, hey access! {os v 1.53. what about 1,53????????} i m in multi-mode, in the ctrl menu at arp/octaves. when i go one step right to vel/osc1shape and then one step left {back} i will not be at arp/oct however at arp/clock! that s a fault i think? and what about this idea: in any mode it is possible to hold the value buttons down and the synth will quick change the sounds. i. e. from a12 to a97. the lights change fast and look like DISCO. but in ctrl or edit menue i think this feature would also be very useful! you know what i mean? i think that this is easy to program, isnt t it? and what about this: when i set the definables to any single-mode function they sometimes like to function no more. i use them and a few minutes later after going to another channel or changing the sound they don t work anymore! marcX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 08:57:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 08:58:33 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: wanted/gesucht Mac format OS v1.53 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 21:56 Uhr -0000 on 18.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: "J.Zwier" >So the question is: is there anyone who wants to send me the v1.53 midi files ( only number 1 is needed) and if possible the Rob Papen virus3rp.mid patches (or are they for release OS v1.02 only?) (stuffed or uncompressed) from his/her Mac? Sure, I'll be glad to send it to you. Just let me know. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 12:37:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:40:05 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: Re: Help!!! From Virus users * From: "Paulo Abreu" >* From: "Howard Scarr" >These sounds overload the DACs if you play too many (low) notes at once. Not a bug - just a limitation of any reasonably-priced digital audio hardware. Simple to remedy - play a thick chord, turn down the PatchVolume until it stops breaking up and then store the sound. > OK. Fair enough. J.Zwier and Howard Scarr Thanks a lot for the input Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 13:18:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:21:31 +0000 Priority: normal Subject: The K sounds....And a OS wish * From: "Paulo Abreu" Some words about the factory sounds: A few weeks ago there was some talk about who was behind the sounds with the K, and I think that someone said they were made by C.Kemper (the man behind the virus). So, if those sounds were made by C.Kemper I think I have to tell that, in my opinion, we could not be" in better hands", because I think it is amazing how the designer of a system can take such good results from its creation- it seems that he shows what he was looking for with the Virus...And I really must say THANKS because, the great majority of those sounds are AMAZING. Some are sounds that give me a start for creation that I only remember to have had with my long gone : ( KORG- MS20. And a wish for future upgrades: I think that the UI could, and can, be much better with a little "touch" on the controller and edit (never ending menus...)- I guess that it would not be too complicated to agregate the different similar comands in sub-menus, like in the Quasimidi Ravolution 309, like ... so one would only had to select the name of the menu with the parameter buttons and then, when having the desired menu on the screen, you would only need to press STORE and "dive" in a sub-menu with the options, eg, PARAMETER-- STORE and then PARAMETER to select the options for the arpeggiator. Well, that was just an example...but I really do not know Why am I always talking about the Arpegiator ; ) one more about the Arpeggiator- would it be possible to have a programable one...just like in the MW2? But, just one. Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 15:22:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 08:20:50 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: FW: The K sounds....And a OS wish * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com Paulo wrote: >one more about the Arpeggiator- would it be possible to have a programable >one...just like in the MW2? But, just one. Oh, sure, just one. That's how it always starts. Next thing you'll be wanting two. Then four!!!! I'm not addicted, I can quit at any time. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 15:54:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:41:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: idea This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BD833C.8CA2D540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i m in multi-mode, in the ctrl menu at arp/octaves. when i go one = step right to vel/osc1shape and then one step left {back} i will not be = at=20 arp/oct however at arp/clock! that s a fault i think?=20 Not a very important one, though!=20 in any mode it is possible to hold the value buttons down and the = synth will quick change the sounds. i. e. from a12 to a97. the lights = change fast and look like DISCO. but in ctrl or edit menue i think this = feature would also be very useful!=20 Useful? In Multi or Single mode you are scrolling through programs = which have different settings. What's the use of a specially programmed = "lightshow" in the crtsl/edit modes? No thanx... when i set the definables to any single-mode function they sometimes = like=20 to function no more. i use them and a few minutes later after going = to another channel or changing the sound they don t work anymore!=20 Yes - that sounds a bit like the trouble I was having... ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BD833C.8CA2D540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i m in = multi-mode, in the ctrl=20 menu at arp/octaves. when i go one step right to vel/osc1shape and = then one=20 step left {back} i will not be at
arp/oct = however at=20 arp/clock! that s a fault i think?=20

Not a very = important one,=20 though!=20

in any = mode it is=20 possible to hold the value buttons down and the synth will quick = change the=20 sounds. i. e. from a12 to a97. the lights change fast and look like = DISCO.=20 but in ctrl or edit menue i think this feature would also be very = useful!=20

Useful? In = Multi or Single=20 mode you are scrolling through programs which have different = settings.=20 What's the use of a specially programmed "lightshow" in = the=20 crtsl/edit modes? No thanx...

when i = set the=20 definables to any single-mode function they sometimes=20 like =
to function no more. i use them and a few minutes = later after=20 going to another channel or changing the sound they don t work=20 anymore!

Yes - that=20 sounds a bit like the trouble I was=20 having...

------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BD833C.8CA2D540-- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 15:54:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:52:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: The K sounds....And a OS wish * From: "Howard Scarr" >...So, if those sounds were made by C.Kemper I think I have to tell that, in my opinion, we could not be" in better hands", because I think it >is amazing how the designer of a system can take such good results from its creation - it seems that he shows what he was looking for with the Virus... Absolutely. If Mr. Kemper were not a "patchman", he would not have been able to design such a machine! >I think that the UI could, and can, be much better with a little "touch" on >the controller and edit (never ending menus...)- I guess that it would not be >too complicated to agregate the different similar comands in sub-menus... Just hold down one parameter key and step through the "submenus" with the other. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 15:54:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:54:13 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: How do i change the name ? * From: "Howard Scarr" >Sorry to be a Pain in the **** but i still cant work out how to change the name of a patch .. could someone please tell me ... Store, Parameter >, Value ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 19:39:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:28:30 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: The K sounds....And a OS wish * From: Paul Nagle On Tue, 19 May 1998 15:52:44 +0200, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>...So, if those sounds were made by C.Kemper I think I have to tell that, in my opinion, we could not be" in better hands", because I >think it >>is amazing how the designer of a system can take such good results from its I think the vast majority of sounds were created by the amazing Rob Papen. Some by Mr Kemper and some by a weird English bloke... Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 20:30:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:31:20 -0700 Subject: Doing an OS upgrade with Cakewalk... * From: Jay Vaughan Forgot to mention this last week, but for what it's worth I managed to successfully upgrade my Access Virus to v1.52, then v1.53+factory sounds with CakeWalk on my PC. Had to use a PC-based sequencer instead of my preferred QY700 hardware sequencer, because the QY700 only has 512k RAM in it (enough for 20 songs or so), and yet the OS is something like 514k. My only choice was Cakewalk on my PC, so I tempted fate, turned the tempo down to 80bpm, and let it rip. Worked smoothly, no problems at all. j. -- Jay Vaughan TekLab jv@teklab.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 21:12:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:21:41 -0700 Subject: Re: idea * From: b La rock access-list@teklab.com wrote: and what about this idea: in any mode it is possible to hold the value buttons down and the synth will quick change the sounds. i. e. from a12 to a97. the lights change fast and look like DISCO. but in ctrl or edit menue i think this feature would also be very useful! you know what i mean? i think that this is easy to program, isnt t it? you mean the key-repeat operation doesnt work for the menus ...... and so you have to press the button each time ...... click click click click ....... yeah that would be nice to have . PEACE. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 23:18:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Hello I need Help with my virus (fwd) * From: Jay Vaughan Can anyone help him? I'm stuck away from my Virus for a few days... j. Forwarded message: >From jv Tue May 19 13:10:45 1998 >From: DjEliStar >Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:39:23 EDT >To: jv@teklab.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Hello I need Help with my virus Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Sender: jv@teklab.com > >Hi. I was just wondering how I can get some technical help with my new Virus. I am having problems with midi patch dump. Being as the company is based in germany, I have found it difficult to get anywhere. My W-mails go unanswered and calling the supplied german long distance number is a joke as you are greeted by a recording in german with no option to leave a message. With this kind of lacking tech support, my virus is heading back to the store unless some kind soul has some words of wisdom for me. I am hanging in limbo waiting for any response. Any would be greatly appreciated. > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 22:50:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:49:49 EDT Subject: Tech Support * From: DjEliStar I just bought a new Virus. I have installed successfully the system update and am now running 1.53. I can not seem to recall patch dumps however. I have tried all the options of transmission and reception and still no luck. I am wondering how I could get technical support from this German based company. It seems phone calls are useless since my German isn't very good and the answering machine does not allow for incoming messages. Any help any one can lend would be much appreciated as I need to recall my specifically tailored patches for use at later times with their respective songs. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 23:25:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:22:41 +0200 Subject: Re: idea yeah man, that s exactly what i mean! freedom, marc access-list@teklab.com schrieb: * From: b La rock access-list@teklab.com wrote: and what about this idea: in any mode it is possible to hold the value buttons down and the synth will quick change the sounds. i. e. from a12 to a97. the lights change fast and look like DISCO. but in ctrl or edit menue i think this feature would also be very useful! you know what i mean? i think that this is easy to program, isnt t it? you mean the key-repeat operation doesnt work for the menus ...... and so you have to press the button each time ...... click click click click ...... yeah that would be nice to have . PEACE. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 19 23:55:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:53:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: idea * From: "Howard Scarr" >you mean the key-repeat operation doesnt work for the menus ...... and so you have to press the button each time ...... click click click click..... yeah that would be nice to have . I agree that a max. of about 20 clicks to get to a parameter is annoying, but I have seen worse (e.g. Kurzweil K1000). I think the following would be better than key-repeat, because a) it would be very intuitive and *quick* a) it would work in *any* mode in *addition* to the present system b) it would thus be fairly easy to implement My suggestion: Ctrl or (Multi)Edit mode: Holding the Ctrl or Edit button and turning the value pot scrolls through the parameters. Multi or Single mode: Holding the Multi or Single button and turning the value pot scrolls through the sounds. What say the developers? Definitely worth a thought... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 01:28:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Virus for sale/lower price * From: Gene Schwartz 2 months old, as new. Box and manual. $1000 + shipping. Can't go any lower than this. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 01:32:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 01:34:52 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: Tech Support * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 20:49 Uhr -0000 on 19.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I just bought a new Virus. I have installed successfully the system update and am now running 1.53. I can not seem to recall patch dumps however. I have tried all the options of transmission and reception and still no luck. which sequencer are you using? at what tempo? did you set up the virus to receive patches then hit "play" on the sequencer while using the right port and channe the virus was connected to? then what happened? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 02:40:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 02:37:32 +0200 Subject: q: aux/in hey guys, i got another question: how is it possible to use and hear the sound from the internal aux channels? i used to set one channel output to auxl+r and tried to pick it up by setting an other channel to input the auxl+r but i do not hear anything! where s my fault? thanx, marcX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 04:13:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: q: aux/in * From: Gene Schwartz >how is it possible to use and hear the sound from the internal aux channels? i used to set one channel output to auxl+r and tried to pick it up by setting an other channel to input the auxl+r but i do not hear anything! where s my fault? > Well, it should work if the output of one part is to either aux 1 or aux 2 and the input of the second part is aux 1 or aux 2 respectively AND the output of the second part is an output that goes to your mixer. Also keep in mind that one confusing and inconsistent feature of the interface is that the input is a setting of the single patch, while the output is a setting of the multi part. Other than all that, it does work. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 05:39:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: idea * From: bob frye YES yes yes, it sounds good! Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 05:39:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: idea * From: bob frye >* From: b La rock access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >and what about this idea: > >in any mode it is possible to hold the value buttons down and the synth will quick change the sounds. i. e. from a12 to a97. the lights change fast and look like DISCO. but in ctrl or edit menue i think this feature would also be very useful! you know what i mean? i think that this is easy to program, isnt t it? > >you mean the key-repeat operation doesnt work for the menus ...... and so you have to press the button each time ...... click click click click ....... > >yeah that would be nice to have . > I'll agree with this... instead of having to keep clicking to advance to the next display page, we should be able to just hold the button and scroll to the desired edit page,... similar to how it scrolls in Single/Multi play modes. Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 09:51:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 03:50:32 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Tech Support * From: DjEliStar Canine Wrote: <> ............................................................................. ............................................................................. ............. Thanks for your interest. I hadn't gone into much detail on my initial post but I will be much more specific this time. I am using Logic on a macintosh PPC with a studio 4 interface. I have tried sending and recording the patch dump data at a variety of tempos. I opted for 60 BPM for testing after I had read this might be a fix. Note: all my other synths have no problem dumping and receiving at any tempos. I am using the Virus on Multi/Single mode. I am recording the patches to my sequencer on Virus channel one from the Virus channel 1. I have also tried each of the different modes of transmission and reception. It appears to succesfully receive the data. When I Play the data back, my Virus displays an E. After the completion of the dump data, Nothing happens and my Virus is the way it was prior to the dump reception. Some confusion on my part stems from the manual's light coverage on dumping. I am assuming that I can dump one channel's patch info from the single edit buffer. I can dump all sixteen channel's patches from the multi buffer dump or an entire bank of sounds from the bank option. For reception, is the desired mode enable? or one of the other force options. Again for test perposes I attempted all of the options to no avail. Including re-writing existing patches using the store function and then dumping the whole bank in to the sequencer - then replacing it and also no luck. I am hoping that the above writings may shed some light into what is going on in my mind and if I am thinking the right way in order to relate with my Virus. I so appreciate the input from you. I have visited your page and tried sending E- mail to you directly but my e-mail comes back undeliverable. Again, I am gratefull for your help with this matter. Sincerly, Eli Star ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 16:08:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:10:00 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: Re: Tech Support * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:50 Uhr -0000 on 20.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I have visited your page and tried sending E- mail to you directly but my e-mail comes back undeliverable. Again, I am gratefull for your help with this matter. That's really weird, has anyone else experienced this problem? Please let me know (via the list or to canine@waf80.de) if there is something wrong with that email. I believe it could be some other problem, though since I get lots of emails delivered to this address every day. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 16:08:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:10:03 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: Re: Tech Support * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:50 Uhr -0000 on 20.05.1998 you wrote: >I am using Logic on a macintosh PPC with a studio 4 interface. I have tried sending and recording the patch dump data at a variety of tempos. I opted for 60 BPM for testing after I had read this might be a fix. I am using Mac Logic (LAM) with an MTP II. The virus has his own channel and port. I usually (since that is my default song tempo in my autoload) use 90 bpm for storing sounds and updating OS versions. I have actually never tried to dump an entire bank back to the virus, but I have heard that people have done it, so it must be possible... The way I work is I use the Virus' controls to edit sounds and just back them up to my Mac. I have never had to restore anything and actually don't even know if this works for me. Risky thing, huh? Note: all my other >synths have no problem dumping and receiving at any tempos. I am using the Virus on Multi/Single mode. I am recording the patches to my sequencer on Virus channel one from the Virus channel 1. That's what I do. The Channel on Logic doesn't matter as long as the track is selected. It doesn't even have to be the Virus channel at all. I have also tried each of the >different modes of transmission and reception. It appears to succesfully receive the data. When I Play the data back, my Virus displays an E. After the completion of the dump data, Nothing happens and my Virus is the way it was prior to the dump reception. have you successfully loaded in a new operating system at some point? Some confusion on my part stems from the manual's >light coverage on dumping. I am assuming that I can dump one channel's patch info from the single edit buffer. I can dump all sixteen channel's patches from the multi buffer dump or an entire bank of sounds from the bank option. In the german manual it says that the virus can always receive sound data unless it is set to "Disable" in the "MIDI DUMP RX" page. When set to enable the sounds are dumped back to the bank they originally came from. FORCE forces them to go into the selected bank no matter where they came from. Force to Edit puts them in the Edit buffer where they need to be stored or will be overwritten by the next dump or the next program change. If you are sending single dumps to the virus you will have to store them individually since they automatically go to the edit buffer where they are erased if you change the program. >For reception, is the desired mode enable? or one of the other force options. Again for test perposes I attempted all of the options to no avail. Including re-writing existing patches using the store function and then dumping the whole bank in to the sequencer - then replacing it and also no luck. Hm, this sounds like the way the manual describes this process. I am >hoping that the above writings may shed some light into what is going on in my mind and if I am thinking the right way in order to relate with my Virus. I so appreciate the input from you. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 18:37:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Virus for sale/lower price * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "onno" > >PLease tell us where you live and i mean which country > >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>2 months old, as new. Box and manual. $1000 + shipping. Can't go any lower than this. >> >>Gene >> Sorry - U.S. Should have mentioned that. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 20 11:45:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:46:25 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus for sale/lower price * From: "onno" PLease tell us where you live and i mean which country -----Original Message----- From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 5:48 PM Subject: Virus for sale/lower price >* From: Gene Schwartz > >2 months old, as new. Box and manual. $1000 + shipping. Can't go any lower than this. > >Gene > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 03:51:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:50:07 +0200 Subject: os? hey mr canine, hey access-team, when will we obtain the os v 1,54 {or 1,60?, 1,7? or 2.01????} i think we all need an update! marcX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 07:37:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 07:33:05 +0200 Organization: MŽ DÏËĖn Subject: PDF files errors * From: marian I use Acrobat reader 3.01 and i canīt read the virus manual pdf files. Reader show this errors: An unrecognized token īIī was found. There were several parsing errors on this page. I can see only bookmarks and document preferences. Marian Kubinec Electra Glide Project ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 17:16:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: genesia@mygale.org (Unverified) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:15:45 +0200 Subject: TB 303 original ! * From: GeNeSiA hello access list ! i just want to know if anyone has find the original TB 303 sound with the virus i have tried but with not a good result :( ++ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 18:44:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:44:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: If this synth is so good then... * From: Gene Schwartz If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 20:36:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:42:51 -0700 Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 09:44 AM 5/21/98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: Gene Schwartz > >If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? > Because everyone on this list already has one, probably. I'd buy it from you, just to get another one, but I can't come up with a full $1000 right now. I'll ask my co-writer if he has the cash, I know he wants one after staying up late drooling over mine the other day... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 20:14:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:13:29 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: TB 303 original ! * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com GeNeSiA wrote: >I just want to know if anyone has find >the original TB 303 sound with the virus i have tried but with not a good result :( Well, this won't help you, but I did get a fabulous acid line out of it with some minor modifications to one of the factory patches (it's in the 20-29 range). Not having the Virus here at work, I can't tell you the exact parameters, but I'd say some keys to a solid 303 sound: 1) Don't overdrive the oscillators: Overdrive the filters instead. If you overdrive the oscillators, they get that warm moog-y sound which is non 303. So keep the OSC volume under 12 o'clock, but have filter saturation on HARD, and run the resonance high, so that the squelch is distorted. 2) Only one Oscillator audible, wheel #2 to zero. Keep it real. 3) Mono mode with fingered portamento at 20 or so, and envelopes don't retrigger on a portamento note. For realistic glide. (one of the voice modes is perfect for this) Sorry this is a little vague, without actual parameter values for you, but as I said, the Virus is 10 miles away now. Good luck! Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 20:41:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:41:17 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com Gene Schwartz wrote: >If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? Yeah, you deadbeats! Actually, um, most of us already HAVE one. Two would seem, well, excessive. I noticed you haven't posted this on RMMS or RMMM yet. That might get a response or two. Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 20:50:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:53:57 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: If this synth is so good then... * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Gene Schwartz > >If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? Easy, this is a list where people can discuss their Virus. I think 90% of the people here already has one. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 22:21:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:23:38 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 16:44 Uhr -0000 on 21.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? > Since this synth is so good then why on earth are you selling yours? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 22:21:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:23:42 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: os? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:50 Uhr -0000 on 21.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >hey mr canine, hey access-team, Hey Mr Can't-get-enough > >when will we obtain the os v 1,54 {or 1,60?, 1,7? or 2.01????} What's wrong about 1.53? > >i think we all need an update! Do you or does your virus?...;)) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 23:07:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >At 09:44 AM 5/21/98 -0700, you wrote: >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? >> > >Because everyone on this list already has one, probably. > >I'd buy it from you, just to get another one, but I can't come up with a full $1000 right now. I'll ask my co-writer if he has the cash, I know he wants one after staying up late drooling over mine the other day... > > Well, it wasn't really a serious question. I'm just surprised it hasn't sold by now. Anyway, if the drool seeped into the Virus, you may need mine anyway. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 23:15:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: RE: If this synth is so good then... * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? > >Easy, this is a list where people can discuss their Virus. I think 90% of the people here already has one. > Again - it was not quite a serious question. Second, I posted this question here, but I posted the Virus for sale on several mailing lists. But it looks like (as of a few moments ago) that it's sold. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 21 23:29:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:38:43 -0700 Subject: Re: TB 303 original ! * From: b La rock Related : How do you know when you have a pure sawtooth osicallator the display dosent say 'sawtooth' so how do you know ... ...? Peace. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 00:01:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:01:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 16:44 Uhr -0000 on 21.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? >> > >Since this synth is so good then why on earth are you selling yours? > I hope that question is asked in the same spirit that I asked mine! I was not challenging the quality of the Virus, I ws just expressing surprise that it hadn't sold yet at a good price. BTW, almost immediately upon my plaintive, whining, question appearing on this list, the Virus sold. I doooooo like the Virus. I promise. But, my decision was made for pragmatic considerations. If I did not have other synths with more flexible signal processing (e.g. a Kyma system) I would not have sold the Virus. This allows me (given my current unemployed status) to enhance my studio in other ways. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 00:34:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:37:10 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 22:01 Uhr -0000 on 21.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I hope that question is asked in the same spirit that I asked mine! Oh, but certainly, gene, I don't know if you know me, but I know you because your name pops up quite frequently on the waldorf list, and so I was surprised to see you of all people getting rid of your virus already.... >I doooooo like the Virus. I promise. But, my decision was made for pragmatic considerations. If I did not have other synths with more flexible signal processing (e.g. a Kyma system) I would not have sold the Virus. This allows me (given my current unemployed status) to enhance my studio in other ways. I understand. poor you. once a virus always a virus. You might eventually have to buy one again anyways...;) tell us how you are going to enhance your studio...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 00:35:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:37:30 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: A use for the external inputs * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" After switching from an AudioMedia III to an Audiowerk8 card for harddiskrecording (I needed the outputs), I discovered that the Audiowerk8 has one major flaw: in Logic Audio it does not react to volume changes as fluently as the Audiomedia. In Fact if you want to chop up a sound using the Audiowerk and volume changes (controller 7) or mutes (controller 9) the card just randomly switches the output on and off even though you can see the faders on screen move up and down in time. you can imagine how pissed I was to discover this because I am in the middle of a project (I had to do it now, I needed the outputs and couldn't afford to keep both cards) and most of my songs use the chop up technique at one point or another. so after a bit of staring at my audio system, cursing my decision (and Emagic for making such a stupid but otherwise great audiocard) I decided to just route outputs 7-8 of the card through the Virus, set the sound to "Dynamic" and use the same MIDI notes I had for the audioobject to trigger the virus. The best part is that now I even have the envelopes of the virus to control the sound of my chopper. and a filter. It might seem obvious, and most likely it is. But I was so glad aI had this possibility, since nothing else in my midisetup but the virus now allows me to do this. Maybe somebody finds this inspiring...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 01:21:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:17:05 -0700 Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com, cs1x-list@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, sy85-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, mu-list@teklab.com Subject: * * Downtime for all TekLab Lists * * * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Dear List Subscriber, Please be advised that all TekLab mailing lists will be offline on Saturday 23rd of May for a major house-keeping effort on TekLab's host systems. We are installing new hardware to prepare for additional net broadcast services, and this requires that all TekLab machines be offline to prevent any concurrent traffic from being messed up by our reconfiguring. Service will be fully restored by Saturday night (Pacific Standard Time), and issues that have been lowering the quality of list traffic will have been fully addressed. In the meantime all TekLab lists will continue to function as before until Saturday morning, and a list-wide announcement will go out on Saturday when things are restored to working order. So be forewarned -- you will get bounces from the teklab.com domain if you try to send us mail on Saturday. And these bounces will go away Saturday night/Sunday morning. Thank you for your patience. Talk to you soon. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 02:37:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:45:54 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Gene Schwartz > >If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? becauese most on the list have it !!! good luck though gene weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 03:05:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:05:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 22:01 Uhr -0000 on 21.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>I hope that question is asked in the same spirit that I asked mine! > >Oh, but certainly, gene, I don't know if you know me, but I know you because your name pops up quite frequently on the waldorf list, and so I was surprised to see you of all people getting rid of your virus already.... > > >>I doooooo like the Virus. I promise. But, my decision was made for pragmatic considerations. If I did not have other synths with more flexible signal processing (e.g. a Kyma system) I would not have sold the Virus. This allows me (given my current unemployed status) to enhance my studio in other ways. > >I understand. poor you. once a virus always a virus. You might eventually have to buy one again anyways...;) > Is that a threat? >tell us how you are going to enhance your studio...;) > I'm a gonna buy me some software. (Waiting for the negative comments.....) Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 01:14:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fre, 22 May 98 01:15:58 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: TB 303 original ! * From: Marc Schlaile >i just want to know if anyone has find >the original TB 303 sound with the virus i have tried but with not a good result :( try to lowpass the virus' out at approx. 4khz and push the mids (for example round 1.3khz). it's not the virus' fault that an original 303 lacks of a linear frequency response ;-). cu marc ................................................................... | production | arrangement | remix | sounddesign | music publisher | ................................................................... babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 01:14:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fre, 22 May 98 01:16:00 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Marc Schlaile >If this synth is so good, then why doesn't anyone want to buy mine? what's about posting your original mail to the quasimidi list (if there is one) :-) m. ................................................................... | production | arrangement | remix | sounddesign | music publisher | ................................................................... babylonwaves music www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~mschlail/ email:babylonwaves@usa.net ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 09:01:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:42:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: A use for the external inputs * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >After switching from an AudioMedia III to an Audiowerk8 card for harddiskrecording (I needed the outputs), I discovered that the Audiowerk8 has one major flaw: in Logic Audio it does not react to volume changes as fluently as the Audiomedia. In Fact if you want to chop up a sound using the Audiowerk and volume changes (controller 7) or mutes (controller 9) the card just randomly switches the output on and off even though you can see the faders on screen move up and down in time. > Hi, it's meeee again. This time as a Logic Audio guy. I have an Audiowerk8 also, but my problems aren't that severe (although I don't use controller 9). I just find the response of the card to be sluggish (but it does sound better than the Audiomedia card, imo). I don't get any random switching off of the volume. >you can imagine how pissed I was to discover this because I am in the middle of a project (I had to do it now, I needed the outputs and couldn't afford to keep both cards) and most of my songs use the chop up technique at one point or another. > >so after a bit of staring at my audio system, cursing my decision (and Emagic for making such a stupid but otherwise great audiocard) I decided to just route outputs 7-8 of the card through the Virus, set the sound to "Dynamic" and use the same MIDI notes I had for the audioobject to trigger the virus. I'm confused. How were you triggering an audio object with notes in Logic? >The best part is that now I even have the envelopes of the virus to control the sound of my chopper. and a filter. > >It might seem obvious, and most likely it is. But I was so glad aI had this possibility, since nothing else in my midisetup but the virus now allows me to do this. Maybe somebody finds this inspiring...;) > In my brief days with the Virus, I also used it to process the Audiowerk8. So perhaps I inspired you telepathically. You do know, btw, that Waldorf has a version of their MWII filter + some other features available as a VST plug in, didn't you? Version 3.1 with VST support is right around the proverbial corner. Now, that actually isn't a bad idea, is it? I'd buy a Virus filter VST plug in. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 11:09:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:12:29 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: A use for the external inputs * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:42 Uhr -0000 on 22.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Gene Schwartz > >>* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> Hi Gene > >I'm confused. How were you triggering an audio object with notes in Logic? > sorry, let me clarify: I am using two tracks for this audio object. One is the Audio track itself, another is just an instrument routed to a transformer that transforms notes to controller 7. The velocity of the note (at note on) is converted to the value of controller 7. The note off creates a velocity 0. that gives you a very flexible way to for example start out with straight 16th notes and work your way to a decent rhythm for those mutes. >Hi, it's meeee again. This time as a Logic Audio guy. I have an Audiowerk8 also, but my problems aren't that severe (although I don't use controller 9). I just find the response of the card to be sluggish (but it does sound better than the Audiomedia card, imo). I don't get any random switching off of the volume. Well, I use controller 7 to set the volume to a certain value for parts of the song. If I just need one controller it works just fine. It's just that switching on again, off again that doesn't work well enough. Emagic said, the Audiowerk, the AV and Korg 1212 have the same problem in this respect. >> > >In my brief days with the Virus, I also used it to process the Audiowerk8. So perhaps I inspired you telepathically. ;-))) probably... > >You do know, btw, that Waldorf has a version of their MWII filter + some other features available as a VST plug in, didn't you? Version 3.1 with VST support is right around the proverbial corner. Now, that actually isn't a bad idea, is it? I'd buy a Virus filter VST plug in. yes, actually a great idea. Unfortunately I will have to see how my system performance will be doing once I start using VST tracks. I sometimes suffer from overloads when I use just 3 stereo and one mono track. But I am using a 2 gig HD on the external bus which is probably not the best solution. by now we should probably start to shift this conversation to the logic list, huh...?..;) > >Gene > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 12:57:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:06:02 +0100 Subject: Virus & Amiga * From: Schorsch Hi, for anyone out there having questions or problems using their virus with an Amiga, I can offer some help. I'm now having my virus more than half a year running with my Amiga and I'm kind of experienced with this setup. So long, ->Schorsch ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 14:50:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 07:48:56 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: More on 303 * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com GeNeSiA wrote: >>I just want to know if anyone has find the original TB 303 sound with the virus i have tried but with not a good result :( Then I wrote: Well, I went home and remembered that when I upgraded from 1.12 to 1.53 I blew away that holy grail patch. So I used my own advice and recreated it (actually, I made 2: One for clean, one for distorto). FYI: The 303-mode is MONO4: This allows portamento when playing legato, but no portamento when individual notes are played. This simulates GLIDE nicely. I sent some Midifile patches to GeNeSiA and Mike Egar from the list. If anyone else needs these, email me directly (Jay, I'm not gonna send 35K files through your mail list! I hope you don't mind!) Jim ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 19:59:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:34:26 -0700 Subject: Re: More on 303 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >I sent some Midifile patches to GeNeSiA and Mike Egar from the list. If anyone else needs these, email me directly (Jay, I'm not gonna send 35K files through your mail list! I hope you don't mind!) > I'm very grateful. Another thing you can do is put files in here: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming And then I will move them in to: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/access-virus I know there are already archives for Virus related files out there, but if list members want an easy way to swap files, teklab is there -- works great for other teklab mailing lists. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 22 19:36:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:44:56 -0700 Subject: Wave Shapes .. * From: b La rock This is from the manual ....... SHAPE This control feature lets you determine the waveshape for the WAVE section (one of 64 variable waveshapes). The waveshape is infinitely variable from sawtooth through to pulse waves. .... If SHAPE has a value less than the value of the center position, then WAVE SEL/PW determines the waveshape.... WAVE SEL/PW .....When SHAPE has a value lower than that of the center position, then WAVE SEL/PW lets you select from the 64 waveshapes available in the ROM of the Virus. Waveshape 1 is a sine wave; No. 2 a triangle, the remainder of the waves feature different combinations of frequencies. ----------------------- Okay so ...... the wave is infinitely variable from sawtooth to pulse .. the big question is sawtooth after Triangle ??????? ....I mean i want a sawtooth !!!!!!!! ....... is there a chart we can have that shows the shapes of the waves 1 - 64 ??? ......how do you variate a wave from sawtooth to pulse ? do other list members care about this ? Peace .... Barney.. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 13:15:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:17:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: More on 303 * From: "Howard Scarr" >I sent some Midifile patches to GeNeSiA and Mike Egar from the list. If anyone else needs these, email me directly (Jay, I'm not gonna send 35K files through your mail list! I hope you don't mind!) Why not send them to Canine's site? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 03:43:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 May 98 21:41:12 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Welcome... * From: evening greetings! I just bought the Virus & I'm *very* happy!!!!!!! Too Damn cool.... I'm also deep into checking it out right now so I'll see ya all around! peace, john ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 08:18:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:23:16 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Galaxy/OMS * From: Guenther Albrecht Hi, i first want to thank all the people betatesting my Galaxy module! i just finished a new version, but as it is very inconvenient to change modules every week, i will do further repostings only if either: - new, usefull functions have been added - newly discovered bugs have been fixed. CHANGES IN THE NEW VERSION (call it 1.0): - final corrections to the checksum algorithm - streamlined the receive and dump procedure - included changing multi/single mode to update the virus to the current operation (it is not important for the machine to do so, but helps you in your orientation. Note: multi mode is F0 00 20 33 01 00 72 40 7A 02 F7 multi single mode is F0 00 20 33 01 00 72 40 7A 01 F7 single mode is F0 00 20 33 01 00 72 40 7A 00 F7 as i found that in no manual yet... ) - worked on arrangement possibilities WHAT ARE THE CURRENT FEATURES: - get and send banks of patches (or multis) - send patches to the single edit buffer for testing purposes - get and send all banks to Virus - see Patch Names in OMS - compatible applications INSTALLATION apart from the ReadMe the stuffed Archive contains 3 files: 1. Access Virus This is the Galaxy module that has to be installed. Before the installation, DELETE THE OLD ACCESS ENTRY in Galaxy Configuration and make sure that your OMS-SetUp no longer contains an entry for the Virus - this has to come from Galaxy. Now you can simply double-click the Librarian file to make Galaxy install it. 2. Access Virus Factory Patches Now you can load this file. It contains the 1.5x patches (Singles & Multis) and is meant for a starting point as well as a source for OMS patch names. Open the file & make it current. 3. Access Virus Library This one contains all sounds i could collect (from old OS versions, own adaptions,..) and is meant for a starting point. If you have lots of new sounds just make me a library, stuff it, post it... PROBLEM: MY VIRUS GETS NO PATCHES! Check if you have set MIDI DUMP RX to Enabled PROBLEM: I CAN SEE NO PATCH OR CONTROLLER NAMES! In your OMS compatible sequencer / MIDI program you have to check the names window (you can also use the application Studio Patches from the Studio 4 & 5) and make shure that the right patch document is subscribed. Check if you see the controller names: the patch names are always the ones corresponding to instruments channel 1. So to look and change patch / controller names for Bank A first select Bank A in the first channel, then open the names list by double-click. You have to do the same for Bank B, too! WHAT IS CURRENTLY MISSING: - no current single buffer can be loaded before it has been saved, as the get patch script uses the program number in the open bank window to choose the patch to load - there is no dump for the global system parameters. certain things cannot be transmitted & saved. can i do that with sysEx? will it be possible sometimes in the future? - multis have no patches when sent to the edit buffer. when sending banks, everything works fine. in contrast, the edit buffer does not contain the patch numbers of the parts. so you cannot change the parts patches, record the multi dump in the sequencer and load everything at once (multi + 16 singles) at a later time. i tried to do an arrangement patch type consisting of multi buffer + 16 single buffers. that works, but you can only save the current buffer - as program changes do not work in multi mode, i cannot request the complete multi bank in this format. Access could help me if they have an (undocumented) way to change the multi patch number by sysEx! would do you want this limited arrangement patch type added to the current Galaxy module? just select banks in device... PROBLEMS: If you experience problems not mentioned in this document, send a mail to saliter@pan.com regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 18:35:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: genesia@mygale.org (Unverified) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:34:24 +0200 Subject: Virus Distortion ?! Hello Access list ! the SOFT Synth program on PC... sound GREAT !!! In fact, one of my friend use program like Rebirth 338 or RubberDuck and i was very surprise and impress by the sound quality ! these prog can generate very very... sharp and phat acid line or bass line sound. Immediatly i try to produce some of them on my virus... and i must to tell you... without the same good result :( Nevertheless i use the same parameters like in these prog but i realize that the virus has major deficiency. in particulary the virus saturation curve parameters is RIDICULOUS in comparaison with these program !!! Update suggestion for the Virus OS 1.5x: MIDI CONTROL Ctrl.No. Range Parameter Value Range 49 0...127 Saturation Amt 0...127 More flexible than the only 6 preset curve (more accurate and effective on the extremity +127) 50 0...127 Distortion Amt 0...127 A little bit different than saturation Distortion is an essential effect which makes the sound "dirtier". To listen the mp3 compressed sound file on both mac and windows system download player: Windows -> ftp://ftp.winamp.com/pub/winamp/winamp191.exe Mac -> http://www.nullsoft.com/amp/MacAmp.sit.hqx A ReBirth 338 sound with distortion effect: listen >> attached file: RB_disto.mp3 << Challenge of the month: the guy able to produce the best ReBirth 338 TB303 patch win... all my recognition :) ReBirth page: http://www.propellerheads.se - Thanx to Jay Vaughan for his patch ! - Perky Fish Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="RB_disto.mp3" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RB_disto.mp3" Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:RB_disto.mp3 (????/----) (00008802)X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 20:12:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:55:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus Distortion ?! * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > > - Thanx to Jay Vaughan for his patch ! - > Ummm... which patch would that be? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 20:09:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:08:06 EDT Subject: tech support one last time * From: DjEliStar This will probably be my last post to this mailing list. I'm sure everyone is getting tired of hearing my problems. I am gratefull for everyone's input to my problems but no one has been able to shed any light at all. Canine let me tell you that I have succesfully updated my system. How wierd is that? I can send complex and long sysex messages to the virus but I can't save/load a patch. To the gentleman who suggested Logic is not good at dealing with sysex I beg to differ as I have been using it succesfully with all my Roland gear for years! Sure Roland's filters are a joke compared to the virus but at least I can recall my patches! One last time, I am going to ask if there is a direct line to Access Music so I can ask them directly my problem. I am almost at the end of my rope. I can't stress how important it is for me to save my patches. The virus is useless to me if I can't recall them later for live performance no matter how good it sounds. Let's look at this from only one angle for simplicity. Ofcourse midi recieve is set to enable. Lets only dump the single edit buffer. now, lets change the edit buffer to a different patch. Load back the old patch data, and shouldn't the virus sound like it did when we dumped the data at this point? If any one else out there is succesfull with this procedure let me know. Am I doing something wrong. Please help, I am desperate. I really don't want to return the coolest Synth I own! Sincerly, Eli Star P.S. Canine, I own a Mac and have owned an apple computer for 16 years. I started with an Apple II then a mac, mac II, and a performa and finally a PPC. I think so different it hurts. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 20:12:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:11:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Virus Distortion ?! * From: Gene Schwartz Please don't send attached files to the list. >Hello Access list ! > >the SOFT Synth program on PC... sound GREAT !!! > >In fact, one of my friend use program like Rebirth 338 or RubberDuck and i was very surprise and impress by the sound quality ! these prog can generate very very... >sharp and phat acid line or bass line sound. > >Immediatly i try to produce some of them on my virus... and i must to tell you... without the same good result :( > >Nevertheless i use the same parameters >like in these prog but i realize that >the virus has major deficiency. in >particulary the virus saturation curve >parameters is RIDICULOUS in comparaison with these program !!! > > >Update suggestion for the Virus OS 1.5x: > >MIDI CONTROL >Ctrl.No. Range Parameter Value Range > >49 0...127 Saturation Amt 0...127 > >More flexible than the only 6 >preset curve (more accurate and >effective on the extremity +127) > >50 0...127 Distortion Amt 0...127 > >A little bit different than saturation >Distortion is an essential effect >which makes the sound "dirtier". > > >To listen the mp3 compressed sound file on both mac and windows system download player: > >Windows -> ftp://ftp.winamp.com/pub/winamp/winamp191.exe Mac -> http://www.nullsoft.com/amp/MacAmp.sit.hqx > >A ReBirth 338 sound with distortion effect: listen >> attached file: RB_disto.mp3 << > >Challenge of the month: the guy able to produce the best ReBirth 338 TB303 patch win... all my recognition :) > >ReBirth page: http://www.propellerheads.se > > - Thanx to Jay Vaughan for his patch ! - > >Perky Fish > >Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="RB_disto.mp3" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RB_disto.mp3" > >Attachment converted: Aardsys:RB_disto.mp3 (????/----) (00009C51) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 20:37:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Virus Owner * From: Tim Anderson I just wanted to say hello to everyone on this list.. I previously had asked questions comparing the virus to this and that. I never got to check one out in person, but I bought the one Gene Schwartz had for sale.. I must say, after just playing around with the presets and reprogramming them a bit, I was blown away. The thing has a very good sound that will complement my music nicely. But the biggest thing that I must say is that I have a smile on my face. I am an avid music lover, and have been writing for years.. The last few I lost a bit of my love for writing though. It has become more of a tedious thought process trying to craft something original, different, and incredible.. After 5 minutes of playing with the virus, I have a smile on my face, and I can once again say playing music is fun. It reminds me of 8 years ago when I first picked up a guitar. I was in heaven (even though my family members were all cringing).. Now much later, I know so much more about music, song writing, and sound design, but that initial spark was lost. The virus has given me that joy back. So I want to thank Access for that. It was worth every cent I paid for it. Now off I go to go work on my next masterpiece. (although I am a bit worried that this joy might ruin my typical dark, depressing music) Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 23:19:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:19:25 EDT Subject: My technical Woes are gone * From: DjEliStar I just want to say a heart felt THANK YOU to all who tried to help me with my problems. Especially Canine for his quick responses and personal attention. There is a genius out on this mailing list. I don't recall who the genius was who recommended I update my OMS driver from 2.32 to 2.34 but that was all that was necessary for me to magically receive all the love in the universe. Now I can recall my patch settings just like it says I can in the manual. Again thank you all for your patience and suggestions. Thanks for running such a great service. Again I am just curious if anyone knows how to contact ACCESS MUSIC directly. Think Different Think Different Think Different ... Eli Star ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 23 23:24:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: Gene Schwartz Hey - if I knew you were going to like it THIS much, I would have charged you more. >* From: Tim Anderson > >I just wanted to say hello to everyone on this list.. I previously had asked questions comparing the virus to this and that. I never got to check one out in person, but I bought the one Gene Schwartz had for sale.. > >I must say, after just playing around with the presets and reprogramming them a bit, I was blown away. The thing has a very good sound that will complement my music nicely. > >But the biggest thing that I must say is that I have a smile on my face. I am an avid music lover, and have been writing for years.. The last few I lost a bit of my love for writing though. It has become more of a tedious thought process trying to craft something original, different, and incredible.. > >After 5 minutes of playing with the virus, I have a smile on my face, and I can once again say playing music is fun. It reminds me of 8 years ago when I first picked up a guitar. I was in heaven (even though my family members were all cringing).. Now much later, I know so much more about music, song writing, and sound design, but that initial spark was lost. > >The virus has given me that joy back. > >So I want to thank Access for that. It was worth every cent I paid for it. > >Now off I go to go work on my next masterpiece. (although I am a bit worried that this joy might ruin my typical dark, depressing music) > >Tim Anderson >terminalbliss@rocketmail.com >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 00:14:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A few questions... * From: Tim Anderson Ok, now I've got a few questions... First, does anyone have any type of studio module for the Virus for Cubase for the PC? If not, can anyone who uses it help me set up just a really straightforward studio module.. Right now I'm using the generic one which one has one bank, and I need one that can access both banks, just by clicking on them in the program select menu.. Just a simple list driver is all I need. I tried using that DMaker, but it did not seem to work out. If anyone has such a driver please email it to terminalbliss@msn.com Thanks, Tim Anderson _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 00:29:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:27:31 -0700 Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 02:23 PM 5/23/98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: Gene Schwartz > >Hey - if I knew you were going to like it THIS much, I would have charged you more. > Hah hah Gene! What're you doing on here, btw? We don't like traitors in this town... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 01:08:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: dhylander@pop.mindspring.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:05:06 -0400 Subject: Re: My technical Woes are gone * From: David Hylander At 05:19 PM 5/23/98 -0400, you wrote: >* From: DjEliStar >Again I am just curious if anyone knows how to contact ACCESS MUSIC directly. This isn't exactly direct, but may help. Geoff Farr at GSF gave me this name and contact information for Virus Product Support in the US. Doug Masla 213-876-8285 Email to him Synthwerks@earthlink.net Put Doug Masla in the Subject line. Haven't tried it myself. Dave ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 02:28:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Compare?? * From: Tim Anderson Is there anything you can press to compare an edited sound to what was last saved? If not, is this one of the things planned in the next upgrade? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 03:37:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >At 02:23 PM 5/23/98 -0700, you wrote: >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>Hey - if I knew you were going to like it THIS much, I would have charged you more. >> > >Hah hah Gene! > >What're you doing on here, btw? We don't like traitors in this town... > I'm actually a double agent. For whom is your guess. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 03:40:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:40:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >At 02:23 PM 5/23/98 -0700, you wrote: >>* From: Gene Schwartz >> >>Hey - if I knew you were going to like it THIS much, I would have charged you more. >> > >Hah hah Gene! > >What're you doing on here, btw? We don't like traitors in this town... > >:) > > > Uh, I happen to be friends with Yog Sothoth, so be careful. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 05:10:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:08:34 -0700 Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >>What're you doing on here, btw? We don't like traitors in this town... >I'm actually a double agent. For whom is your guess. Waldorf? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 05:10:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:08:56 -0700 Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Uh, I happen to be friends with Yog Sothoth, so be careful. > Who is that? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 07:55:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:54:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >> >>Uh, I happen to be friends with Yog Sothoth, so be careful. >> > >Who is that? > > Used to hobnob with H.P. Lovecraft. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 12:47:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:49:30 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: Virus Distortion ?! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" << Hello Access list ! >the SOFT Synth program on PC... sound GREAT !!! >In fact, one of my friend use program like Rebirth 338 or RubberDuck and i was very surprise and impress by the sound quality ! these prog can generate very very... >sharp and phat acid line or bass line sound. >Immediatly i try to produce some of them on my virus... and i must to tell you... without the same good result :( >Nevertheless i use the same parameters >like in these prog but i realize that >the virus has major deficiency. in >particulary the virus saturation curve >parameters is RIDICULOUS in comparaison with these program !!! >Update suggestion for the Virus OS 1.5x: >MIDI CONTROL >Ctrl.No. Range Parameter Value Range >49 0...127 Saturation Amt 0...127 >More flexible than the only 6 >preset curve (more accurate and >effective on the extremity +127) >50 0...127 Distortion Amt 0...127 >A little bit different than saturation >Distortion is an essential effect >which makes the sound "dirtier". >To listen the mp3 compressed sound file on both mac and windows system download player: >Challenge of the month: the guy able to produce the best ReBirth 338 TB303 patch win... all my recognition :) Nice idea, the saturation amount. You can be happy that your Virus has got a saturation amount on board. Turn the OSC VOL knob from the middle position to the right, to get a saturation gain of up to 12 dB (24 dB on Digital Curve), without increasing the volume. (english manual page 34). To hear the full spectrum of the distortion, you must bypass or disable Filter2 (Cutoff to maximum in serial mode). Equipped with this feature, you have the best chances to win the challenge! So far I know, the Rebirth and the Virus are the only instruments providing this feature. Beside this saturation amount, the different saturation curves are provided to realise different saturation (distortion) characteristics (while, from my ears, the Rebirth only uses a digital distiortion, but embedded in a special filter setting; I like it!) If you still reach the point where you see the Virus cannot sound exactly like a 303, remind that the Virus was never intended to be a 303. You can try to get beyond the 303 approach with the Virus: Set up a typical 303 setting: - Only one oscillator sawtooth - Filter serial mode, CUTOFF2 (i.e. filter2 cutoff to maximum) - some resonance - more Saturation - Filter envelope, as usual now turn down the CUTOFF2 to filter the resulting saturation spectrum with Filter2 (and Resonance!). Play around with Cutoff, Cutoff2, Resonance, Env Amount, Decay, Osc Volume and Saturation Curve. With this setting, you get something like a typical VIRUS-Sound. Actually, the possibility to re-filter a saturated filter-sound was the foundation of the filter-saturation configuration that we have now. We should still do the 303-challenge. My little contribution to this is the V- Birth (factory sound A4/A5; move Cutoff, Resonance etc.) By the way, would a VIRUS-challenge be a good idea? Christoph Kemper ACCESS think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 12:47:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:49:37 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: tech support one last time * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 18:08 Uhr -0000 on 23.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >One last >time, I am going to ask if there is a direct line to Access Music so I can ask them directly my problem. Access are on the net, but their German distributor TSI deals with tech support questions. check out http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access or mail to Wolfram Franke , he will be able to help you out. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 12:47:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:49:43 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: tech support one last time * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 18:08 Uhr -0000 on 23.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >P.S. Canine, I own a Mac and have owned an apple computer for 16 years. I started with an Apple II then a mac, mac II, and a performa and finally a PPC. I think so different it hurts. Well then, are you crazy enough to think you can change the world?...;)))) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 12:47:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:49:48 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: New Virus Owner * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:08 Uhr -0000 on 24.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>>What're you doing on here, btw? We don't like traitors in this town... >>I'm actually a double agent. For whom is your guess. > >Waldorf? nah, wouldn't be. Waldorf and Access are on the same side. He's probably referring to Fender or some other guitar makers...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 13:54:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 13:30:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Compare?? * From: "Howard Scarr" >* From: Tim Anderson Is there anything you can press to compare an edited sound to what was last saved? >If not, is this one of the things planned in the next upgrade? It would be good to use such a function as a "patch reset" as well! (click on Wish List at Canine's site) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 14:55:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:03:32 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Compare?? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Tim Anderson > >Is there anything you can press to compare an edited sound to what was last saved? >If not, is this one of the things planned in the next upgrade? yes, i believe they are adding this soon!! weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 24 23:01:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 May 98 23:07:59 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: tech support one last time * From: Raymund Beyer Hallo Eli Star, sorry, I didnīt follow your thread, because I didnīt have the time the last days. Well, i hope donīt tell you anything, that was allready said.... I also work with Logic and had a problem with it in recieving and sending sysex (not with environments). I had the problem that Logic went to position -10:0:0 or so and didnīt record sysex properly. So try the following, on my mac it worked: Quit Logic > take the Preferces file (System Folder>Preferences>Logic Preferences) out of the preferences folder and put it to the desktop or somewere else (dontīloose it). Then take your autoload song out of the Logic folder (and save it somewere else). Now start Logic (the pure and naked one with the default song) and now you should be able to send and record any sysex data - o.k. maybe try it with 60 bpm... HOPE THIS WORKS - on mine it did :-) So if it works: Take the song, save it under Sysex (or so) and put your Autoload and Preferences back to were they belong. Good luck, if it doesnīt work contact my by private mail Ray >* From: DjEliStar > >This will probably be my last post to this mailing list. I'm sure everyone is getting tired of hearing my problems. I am gratefull for everyone's input to my problems but no one has been able to >shed any light at all. Canine let me tell you that I have succesfully updated my system. How wierd is that? I can send complex and long sysex messages to the virus but I can't save/load a patch. To the gentleman who suggested Logic is not good at dealing with sysex I beg to differ as I have been using it succesfully with all my Roland gear for years! Sure Roland's filters are a joke compared to the virus but at least I can recall my patches! One last time, I am going to ask if there is a direct line to Access Music so I can ask >them directly my problem. I am almost at the end of my rope. I can't stress how important it is for me to save my patches. The virus is useless to me if I >can't recall them later for live performance no matter how good it sounds. Let's look at this from only one angle for simplicity. Ofcourse midi recieve is set to enable. >Lets only dump the single edit buffer. >now, lets change the edit buffer to a different patch. Load back the old patch data, and shouldn't the virus sound like it did when we dumped the data at this point? >If any one else out there is succesfull with this procedure let me know. Am I doing something wrong. >Please help, I am desperate. I really don't want to return the coolest Synth I >own! >Sincerly, >Eli Star > >P.S. Canine, I own a Mac and have owned an apple computer for 16 years. I started with an Apple II then a mac, mac II, and a performa and finally a PPC. >I think so different it hurts. >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 02:26:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 May 98 20:23:15 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Clicking... and boundless joy * From: evening hi there... I was messing around with Multi's, still getting to know my Virus, and noticed an intermittant "clicking" sound when playing - kinda like clipping but all my levels & meters are set with enough headroom. I also noticed this clicking when sending controller 7 data to one part of a multi. I still have *alot* of playing to do to find the source of this click but I was wondering whether others had experienced it and could help shed some light. damn it's so cool...I've owned alot of boards in my day ( my first setup was an Arp 2600, MS20, Prophet 5 & Mellotron! (yup I'm old) and like alot of people I've been away from the analogs for the last 10 years but it feels so good to be back! Thank you Access. peace, jmw ps- I paid $1300 at Sam Ash - probably a lil' too much but I had to have take it home! I might get another so if anyone knows of a place cheaper I'd appreciate it. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 07:06:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 01:05:11 EDT Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Elhardt <> Perhaps another question would be: if you have other synths that are more flexible and you are unemployed, why did you buy a Virus in the first place ? -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 11:35:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: nixe.ISAR.net: Ucsdsoft set sender to csdsun2!csdsoft.de!rudolf using -f Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:30:55 +0200 Encoding: 63 TEXT Subject: OS Crashes * From: Rudolf Lindner Hello Virus Community, I got my box a week ago, and it is as great as you all know. Had countless hours of fun.: nice analog style drum sounds, multimode with keyboard zones, and all that other stuff,... Now my soul has found peace and I finally can give away my Korg MS-20, which is able to make unbelievable noize, but without MIDI, not polyphonic... Playing around with the VIRUS I also had some trouble. When Midi Soft Thru is on, this slows down the performance of the "user-interface" drastically. It takes five to ten seconds for switching sounds. But much worse the OS hangs or crashes frequently, showing two alternating screens: ----------------- Illeg.SourceBank COMPARE: ----------------- Hilfe.S51 ----------------- (Poor little VIRUS, screaming for help !???) My Roland D20 sends out Midi Clock and Active Sensing Messages, seems that the VIRUS has problems with that. I need MIDI thru for my MIDI setup. Does anybody know what to do here? Upgrade 1.52->1.53? The VIRUS seems also to have some minor bugs. e.g. after turning the Definable 2 knob, the display does not return entirely to its previous state, showing uppercase letters in lowercase (e.g. displays 1 m1 Play instead of 1 M1 Play) So I have a bit the feeling that access created a great device, but the software needs a bit more testing and bugfixing, to be more tolerant even in "unusal" circumstances. On my wish-list: - Ring modulator - Hierarchical Menus. The Ctrl and Edit Menu is a pain. How's that: Pressing Ctrl gives a list of Menu choices (e.g. MIDI, SYSTEM,....Return). Selecting a menu choice with the value button and pressing Ctrl again steps one level deeper into the menu, Return goes back one level. - Having the value knob always active when the value buttons are active. Are People from Access member of this mailing list? Thanks for access people making the V. Mr. K.9 for his Web-Site and to those who enabled this mailing list. Bye, Rudolf ___________________________________________________________ Rudolf Lindner System-developer e-mail: rudolf@csdsoft.DE CSD Software GmbH Enzianstr. 4 phone : +49 (0)8151 369 0 D-82319 Starnberg fax : +49 (0)8151 369 88 ___________________________________________________________ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 14:00:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: dhylander@pop.mindspring.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:56:39 -0400 Subject: Re: OS Crashes * From: David Hylander At 11:30 AM 5/25/98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: Rudolf Lindner >Playing around with the VIRUS I also had some trouble. When Midi Soft Thru is on, this slows down the performance of the "user-interface" drastically. It takes five to ten seconds for switching sounds. But much worse the OS hangs or >crashes frequently, showing two alternating screens: My Virus does not display any problems utilizing Midi Soft Thru. >I need MIDI thru for my MIDI setup. Does anybody know what to do here? Upgrade 1.52->1.53? Definitly upgrade the operating system. This may help. If this dosn't help, don't rule out sending the unit back for replacement. My first Virus was very unstable and eventually locked up to the point where the reset sequence would not clear it. Also don't rule out the midi stream entering the Virus causing problems. I have had some midi interfaces effect the performace of synth software. Changing the interface fixes the problem, although when you have a lot of devices, (I'm at 16 modules/boards on the interface) this can really be a headache. >The VIRUS seems also to have some minor bugs. e.g. after turning the Definable 2 knob, >the display does not return entirely to its previous state, showing uppercase letters >in lowercase (e.g. displays 1 m1 Play instead of 1 M1 Play) The lower case 'm' indicates that the program has been edited and not saved. This will also happen in the single mode. Changing the definable value actually edits the program for whatever the definable knob is set to do. Dave -------------------------------------------- mailto:David@Hylander.com -------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 15:03:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:10:53 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: OS Crashes * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i think youre getting a midi data loop which is bogging down the virus processor. weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Rudolf Lindner > >Hello Virus Community, > >I got my box a week ago, and it is as great as you all know. Had countless hours of fun.: nice analog style drum sounds, multimode with keyboard zones, and all that other stuff,... >Now my soul has found peace and I finally can give away my Korg MS-20, which is able to make unbelievable noize, but without MIDI, not polyphonic... > >Playing around with the VIRUS I also had some trouble. When Midi Soft Thru is on, this slows down the performance of the "user-interface" drastically. It takes five to ten seconds for switching sounds. But much worse the OS hangs or crashes frequently, showing two alternating screens: > >----------------- >Illeg.SourceBank >COMPARE: >----------------- >Hilfe.S51 > >----------------- > >(Poor little VIRUS, screaming for help !???) > >My Roland D20 sends out Midi Clock and Active Sensing Messages, seems that the VIRUS has problems with that. > >I need MIDI thru for my MIDI setup. Does anybody know what to do here? Upgrade 1.52->1.53? > >The VIRUS seems also to have some minor bugs. e.g. after turning the Definable 2 knob, the display does not return entirely to its previous state, showing uppercase letters in lowercase (e.g. displays 1 m1 Play instead of 1 M1 Play) > >So I have a bit the feeling that access created a great device, but the software needs a bit more testing and bugfixing, to be more tolerant even in "unusal" circumstances. > >On my wish-list: >- Ring modulator >- Hierarchical Menus. The Ctrl and Edit Menu is a pain. How's that: >Pressing Ctrl gives a list of Menu choices (e.g. MIDI, SYSTEM,....Return). Selecting a menu choice with the value button and pressing Ctrl again steps one level deeper into the menu, Return goes back one level. - Having the value knob always active when the value buttons are active. > >Are People from Access member of this mailing list? > >Thanks for access people making the V. Mr. K.9 for his Web-Site and to those who enabled this mailing list. > >Bye, Rudolf > >___________________________________________________________ > >Rudolf Lindner >System-developer e-mail: rudolf@csdsoft.DE > >CSD Software GmbH >Enzianstr. 4 phone : +49 (0)8151 369 0 >D-82319 Starnberg fax : +49 (0)8151 369 88 >___________________________________________________________ > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 15:18:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:21:14 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: OS Crashes * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:30 Uhr -0000 on 25.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I need MIDI thru for my MIDI setup. Does anybody know what to do here? Upgrade 1.52->1.53? If I remember it correctly this is exactly one of the problems fixed in 1.53. >Are People from Access member of this mailing list? Yes, they are lurking and using me as a medium to communicate to the list. If you want to ask them anything just go ahead, and someone on the list or Access themselves (thru me) will reply. > > >Thanks for access people making the V. Mr. K.9 for his Web-Site and to those who >enabled this mailing list. your welcome, my pleasure! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 17:04:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:12:08 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net lets take this converstion off the list into private mail please thx--best weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Elhardt > > > ><> > >Perhaps another question would be: if you have other synths that are more flexible and you are unemployed, why did you buy a Virus in the first place ? > >-Elhardt >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 18:41:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Inputs * From: Tim Anderson Yesterday I was processing some audio through the virus, and one thing I was doing was running this rhythmic loop at a reasonable volume, but then I turned up the input global boost and it really overdrove the sound... I really liked the sound of this, and I was wondering is this ok to do with the virus? With some synths (such as the k2000) cranking up the internal gain stages can overdrive the signal, but in no way will harm the synth... In some other things (I can't think of any off hand.. some effects processors) it is damaging to send things through at excessive volumes. Is it ok to overdrive the virus' inputs, or will it be damaging in the long term? Thanks, Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 18:52:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OS Crashes * From: Tim Anderson >On my wish-list: >- Ring modulator >- Hierarchical Menus. The Ctrl and Edit Menu is a pain. How's that: >Pressing Ctrl gives a list of Menu choices (e.g. MIDI, SYSTEM,....Return). >Selecting a menu choice with the value button and pressing Ctrl again steps one level >deeper into the menu, Return goes back one level. - Having the value knob always active when the value buttons are active. I completely agree with the menus... They really need a way to navigate through the ctrl and edit menus.. One thing that would be nice is to allow the parameter buttons to be held down and then scroll through them with the value knob, so it wont take so many button presses to get from value to value. But I would like to see nested menus like (In the CTRL menu) Common Velocity Assignables MIDI Arpeggiator System (in the EDIT menu) Output Twin Mode Delay/Chorus Sound(?) (Punch, OSC, SubOSC, noise, Filter Polarity) LFO Ext Input Like you would press ctrl to see the submenus, and ctrl to go to the nested and ctrl to return to the main.. Does this seem possible to implement? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 18:52:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:59:52 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: Inputs * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net this is fine!!!!! as long as your speakers can handle it you are overloading the vca's on the virus and what you are hearing is a very pleaseant version of saturation which is basically the creation of rich harmonic overtones. continued luck weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Tim Anderson > >Yesterday I was processing some audio through the virus, and one thing I was doing was running this rhythmic loop at a reasonable volume, but then I turned up the input global boost and it really overdrove the sound... I really liked the sound of this, and I was wondering is this ok to do with the virus? With some synths (such as the k2000) cranking up the internal gain stages can overdrive the signal, but in no way will harm the synth... In some other things (I can't think of any off hand.. some effects processors) it is damaging to send things through at excessive volumes. > >Is it ok to overdrive the virus' inputs, or will it be damaging in the long term? > >Thanks, >Tim Anderson >terminalbliss@rocketmail.com >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 19:07:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:00:15 -0700 Subject: Re: OS Crashes * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Now my soul has found peace and I finally can give away my Korg MS-20, which is able to make unbelievable noize, but without MIDI, not polyphonic... If you want to sell that thing, let me know... I played with one in Japan for a few weeks, and really loved it. So I'd gladly provide a nice clean new home for it, for a good price. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 19:07:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:03:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Inputs * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >Is it ok to overdrive the virus' inputs, or will it be damaging in the long term? I believe this is one of the advantages of Analog emulation -- i.e. everything is going through discrete circuitry, and therefore you're not actually bumping up the voltage levels, just the digital representation of the voltage levels. In analog synths, it was possible to blow something up if it wasn't designed right, but I'm not so sure about the Analog-emulation synths... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 18:59:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:07:25 -0400 Organization: weld electronica Subject: Re: OS Crashes * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i concur as well!!! weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Tim Anderson >>- Hierarchical Menus. The Ctrl and Edit Menu is a pain. How's that: >>Pressing Ctrl gives a list of Menu choices (e.g. MIDI, >SYSTEM,....Return). >>Selecting a menu choice with the value button and pressing Ctrl >again steps one level >>deeper into the menu, Return goes back one level. - Having the value knob always active when the value buttons are >active. > >I completely agree with the menus... They really need a way to navigate through the ctrl and edit menus.. One thing that would be nice is to allow the parameter buttons to be held down and then scroll through them with the value knob, so it wont take so many button presses to get from value to value. But I would like to see nested menus like > >(In the CTRL menu) >Common >Velocity >Assignables >MIDI >Arpeggiator >System > >(in the EDIT menu) >Output >Twin Mode >Delay/Chorus >Sound(?) (Punch, OSC, SubOSC, noise, Filter Polarity) LFO >Ext Input > >Like you would press ctrl to see the submenus, and ctrl to go to the nested >and ctrl to return to the main.. > >Does this seem possible to implement? >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 19:17:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:17:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Elhardt > > > ><> > >Perhaps another question would be: if you have other synths that are more flexible and you are unemployed, why did you buy a Virus in the first place ? > 1. Have you ever bought a synth which was not a that time the most flexible synth in your setup? Which turned out not to be as useful to you as you imagined? Why is this hard for you to understand? I answered the question several times, and I believe this question was answered. 2. why is it your concern how I was able to afford the Virus? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 19:18:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:21:47 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Clicking... and boundless joy * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: evening > >hi there... > >I was messing around with Multi's, still getting to know my Virus, and noticed an intermittant "clicking" sound when playing - kinda like clipping but all my levels & meters are set with enough headroom. I also noticed this clicking when sending controller 7 data to one part of a multi. I still have *alot* of playing to do to find the source of this click but I was wondering whether others had experienced it and could help shed some light. Well, I sometimes have that clicking too (it's at the beginning of a sound) but sometimes its not there. One thing you can check is whether PartEnable is off for the tracks you don't use with your Virus. After I changed the parts I don't use to off, I still (sometimes) have this little clicking at the start of a sound. >damn it's so cool...I've owned alot of boards in my day ( my first setup was an Arp 2600, MS20, Prophet 5 & Mellotron! (yup I'm old) and like alot of people I've been away from the analogs for the last 10 years but it feels so good to be back! Thank you Access. Aahhh, hopefully you didn't sell those!!! If you want to get rid of your Mellotron, CALL ME!!!!!! (did it came with choir, strings and flute tapes?) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 19:18:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:21:51 +0200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: RE: OS Crashes * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Rudolf Lindner > >Now my soul has found peace and I finally can give away my Korg MS-20, which >is able to make unbelievable noize, but without MIDI, not polyphonic... Too who???????? I wouldn't give it away! >Playing around with the VIRUS I also had some trouble. When Midi Soft Thru is >on, this slows down the performance of the "user-interface" drastically. It >takes five to ten seconds for switching sounds. But much worse the OS hangs or >crashes frequently, showing two alternating screens: Yes, I had that too. VERY annoying. But it is fixed with version 1.53, they say. I haven't tried it yet. >So I have a bit the feeling that access created a great device, but the software needs >a bit more testing and bugfixing, to be more tolerant even in "unusal" circumstances. Thats what this list is about (well not everything) reporting 'bugs', and generally disscus this superb synth!! >- Having the value knob always active when the value buttons are active. You can adjust it to 'always active'. just check out the ctrl or edit menu at the end there is something you can adjust to let it say on. (knob-display on) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 20:46:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Inputs * From: Tim Anderson >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >this is fine!!!!! >as long as your speakers can handle it > >you are overloading the vca's on the virus and what you are hearing is a very pleaseant version of saturation which is basically the creation of rich harmonic overtones. continued luck >weld Yes, actually what is nice about the virus is that you can totally overdrive the external signal, but the level that the synth outputs is still fairly consistant with whatever your program output volume level is set at, thereby removing the, "OH SHIT!" jumping for the mixer factor. :) I must say, this overdrive is SO great, it will remove the immediate need for buying an external unit.. I was looking at the SansAmp PSA-1, but the overdrive the virus is capable of by using the "boost input" in combination with the filter saturation modes can put that on the backburner. Also, I would like to see (as I remember someone mentioning here or on the wishlist) a more flexible saturation portion.. Like controllable by numbers and not just the straight curves. I wonder if that would be possible. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 23:06:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:05:40 EDT Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Elhardt <<1. Have you ever bought a synth which was not at that time the most flexible synth in your setup? Which turned out not to be as useful to you as you imagined?>> Only one synth in anyones setup could be considered their most flexible. I still own every synthesizer I ever bought, all the way back to my first "Multimoog". It is hard to imagine a piece of hardware capable of an infinite number of sounds as inflexible. <> The question you answered several times was "Why are you selling it ?" not "Why did you buy it ?". Two different questions. <<2. why is it your concern how I was able to afford the Virus?>> I never inquired as to how you were able to afford the Virus, nor do I care. I am just trying to understand people who operate on impulse, as do two friends I know. They buy something one day and return it the next, or sell it a short while later at a loss. They don't see tomorrow coming until it is there. The Virus is not one of these thin black slab digital keyboards that does who knows what until you buy the thing. The Virus is a virtual analog synthesizer. If you know what an analog synth is, you know 95% of what the Virus is. One look at the front panel and the specs, and you can know all about it before a purchase. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon May 25 23:29:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:32:45 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Virus bassdrum (for those looking for lo lo lo end) * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Maybe this is obvious to many but it wasn't to me... when I got Future Music (great electronic music magazine from UK) today I read the article on analog drums and I had to try it out immediately. There where some people complaining (hey Paul...;) about the Virus' lack of bass. Well, try this and tell me if this is still not enough.... use only OSC 2, mute OSC 1 and the sub. set the octave to -2. no modulations. shape to 0, wave to triangle. at filter Env mod, set Osc pitch to +50. Set the filters to neutral (look mom, no filters!) set both envs to A:0, D:90, S:0 ST:0 R:0 Adjust the decay settings to filt: 16, amp:20 for a nice 808style kick, or keep it at ninety for that falling breakbeat lo-end. is this the bass you were looking for? I am quite satisfied with this one... since this is something that works with every synth, you don't even need a virus for this...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 04:42:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:40:14 -0700 Subject: Feature Request - Virus 1.54 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Playing with my Virus tonight, I figured it'd be nice if there were a function that would send MIDI controller info for the pots -- i.e., I could set the pots to a certain spot, start my sequencer recording, press a button, and the Virus would send MIDI Controller messages for each pot, with values for whatever position the pots are in... Maybe this can already be done - if so, switch this from a Feature Request to a "How do I?"... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 07:21:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:21:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Elhardt > > ><<1. Have you ever bought a synth which was not at that time the most flexible synth in your setup? Which turned out not to be as useful to you as you imagined?>> > >Only one synth in anyones setup could be considered their most flexible. I still own every synthesizer I ever bought, all the way back to my first "Multimoog". It is hard to imagine a piece of hardware capable of an infinite number of sounds as inflexible. > Huh? ><> > >The question you answered several times was "Why are you selling it ?" not "Why did you buy it ?". Two different questions. > Look up the word 'implictly'. ><<2. why is it your concern how I was able to afford the Virus?>> > >I never inquired as to how you were able to afford the Virus, nor do I care. I am just trying to understand people who operate on impulse, as do two friends I know. They buy something one day and return it the next, or sell it a short while later at a loss. They don't see tomorrow coming until it is there. The Virus is not one of these thin black slab digital keyboards that does who knows what until you buy the thing. The Virus is a virtual analog synthesizer. If you know what an analog synth is, you know 95% of what the Virus is. One look at the front panel and the specs, and you can know all about it before a purchase. > > One question. What's MIDI? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 08:50:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:47:59 -0700 Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Alright you two, I'd say that's enough of a fair use of this list for petty quibbles... time for me to step in: a) Gene has every right in the world to sell and buy whatever gear he wants. Plus, he's a cool guy, I've avidly read many of his posts on other lists (synth-l, etc) and I'm sure he has his reasons for having to sell his Virus -- like having a rather large and very well maintained collection of other analogs and therefore not needing the Virus' (admittedly excellent) features to sustain his creative process, for example. Gene, you're a welcome member on this list, and as long as you find it productive, please give us your insight as you see fit, in a Virus-related manner of course. Not having a Virus is likely to turn you into a lurker, so I'll say all the best to you, and please try not to perpetuate slug-fests with us Virii folk in the meantime! b) Anyone on this list that's got a problem with people selling their Virus for whatever reason, well - tough. I don't want teklab lists being overrun by a bunch of panty-waste dillettantes touting large bank accounts and queer desires to cut into everyone elses buying decisions. Whatever!? Just let it rest. Maybe some of us bought the Virus because it's black and red and has knobs on it and deliciously reminds us of that time we walked in on Mummy and Daddy when they had the Jones's over for a-whipping. So what? If it's color-coordinated and makes you feel good about it, then that's a pretty good use of a Virus, if you ask me. In the meantime, there are plenty of things to be discussing in a more musically creative Virus-related realm. For example -- I am right now in the middle of a long night session with my Virus for the first time, waiting for Doug (my co-creator) to finish tweaking some loops on my A3000, and I must say that I am truly in love with this thing (that'd be the Virus, for those having trouble following my context). I just edited the ZZ-Bass preset to my hearts content, and having not paid much attention to the manual the first time I read it I'm surprised at how well I did. Yes, the UI is a bit of a pain, I wish the "< and >" buttons had auto-repeat (where's that Control Panel?), but anyways, I don't notice it because I'm too busy listening to my changes. Saved it off as jj-bass, pretty easy to do really; I'm happy with it anyway. In a few minutes, Doug will have gotten the loops nice and juicy on the A3000 and they'll be ready for me to slap down some godamn wicked wiggedy wild and woolly Virus-infected bass lines with my severe tweak-fiending fingers, and that'll be all the neighbourhood hears until 4am... Fortunately, the studio is in a nice commercial district, so there won't be any neighbours to complain. Well, no non-stoned (and therefore willing to talk to cops) neighbours anyway... Hah hah! And no, I'm not under the influence myself, I just get like this late at night when I have to wait hours on end for Doug to get the godamn filters juicy. Back to the infection... and no more nigglyshit messages about why anyone bought/sold/douched a Virus, etc. Well, not unless you're willing to tell us the full story about Mummy and Daddy, anyway... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 11:28:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:25:42 +0200 Subject: unsucscribe * From: Jan Warnat ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 12:58:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:00:51 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: If this synth is so good then... * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:47 Uhr -0000 on 26.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Gene, you're a welcome member on this list, and as long as you find it productive, please give us your insight as you see fit, in a Virus-related manner of course. Not having a Virus is likely to turn you into a lurker, so I'll say all the best to you, and please try not to perpetuate slug-fests with us Virii folk in the meantime! I second that. Also, even though i could subscribe to Synth-l, this is a more private forum, so I enjoy reading general advice on synth programming here also. I know there are so many things that can be done with any synth but sound different on all of them, so it'd certainly be worthwhile to try it, to throw in your favorite suggestions, not as patches, but as descrptions instead. that will teach everybody how sounds are made. And while I am not talking to Gene only, gene, you are invited to join, no matter who the Jones' are... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 14:23:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 26 May 98 08:20:33 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Re: Feature Request - Virus 1.54 * From: evening >Maybe this can already be done - if so, switch this from a Feature Request to a "How do I?"... It seems to me this can already be done - The program change calls up the initial settings of a sound & the virus already sends controller data for each of its knobs. That's one of the cool things about it! John ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 15:39:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:39:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus bassdrum (for those looking for lo lo lo end) * From: "Howard Scarr" Hi List >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" ... >Adjust the decay settings to filt: 16, amp:20 for a nice 808style kick, or keep it at ninety for that falling breakbeat lo-end. is this the bass you were looking for? I am quite satisfied with this one... Thanks, Kai. I played around with this patch for a while and came across some Virus-specific stuff: To prevent the drastic variations in the amount of initial click, set PhaseInit to 1 (or 64 or 127) and add your own Punch if necessary. Also, saturation (Light) with OscVol about 30 makes the sound fuller without taking away the bass (filter balance = -64). To introduce subtle random variations, send LFO1 (slow S&G, ENV MODE) to FILT GAIN at about +20. Another (louder) method is to throw sublety to the wind, and use LFO Sawtooth in ENV MODE (speed=64) to control both Oscillator frequencies (Balance = 0, Detune = 0). This frees the filter envelope for other nastiness ;-) And...don't forget to crank up the volume (triangle waves can seem quiet) Let's swap some more sound-programming tips in this list! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 17:31:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:29:45 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: RE: More on 303 * From: BALABUSJ@valuerx.com Good call: I just emailed them to the 3 additional people who asked, as well as to K-9. I'm obviously pleased with the patches, but they're not the be-all-end-all of all 303 emulations - they should more of a starting point for tweaking..... Jim ---------- From: access-list@teklab.com[SMTP:access-list@teklab.com] Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 2:18 PM To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: More on 303 * From: "Howard Scarr" >I sent some Midifile patches to GeNeSiA and Mike Egar from the list. If >anyone else needs these, email me directly (Jay, I'm not gonna send 35K >files through your mail list! I hope you don't mind!) Why not send them to Canine's site? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue May 26 19:41:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:29:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Feature Request - Virus 1.54 * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >It seems to me this can already be done - The program change calls up the initial settings of a sound & the virus already sends controller data for each of its knobs. That's one of the cool things about it! So I have to do a Program Change at the beginning of my sequence, and then the Virus will transmit it's controller data for the knobs? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven wizardry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. PAPT Membership #00002 [Return to PANGEA!] ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 27 00:16:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 26 May 98 18:13:46 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Re: Feature Request - Virus 1.54 * From: evening >So I have to do a Program Change at the beginning of my sequence, and then the Virus will transmit it's controller data for the knobs? Yeah - it's that simple - I'm not sure what type of sequencer your using (I use a Studio Vision on a Mac) you just need to make sure that the sequencer is actually receiving the output of the Virus.(in OMS it's under "input devices") If you loop midi tracks some sequencers might send the program change every time the track loops, which is a drag, 'cause it tends to screw up the first beat of the track, mainly because the keyboard is busy changing programs while you want it to play. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 27 00:16:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:17:53 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: Virus bassdrum (for those looking for lo lo lo end) * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 13:39 Uhr -0000 on 26.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >To prevent the drastic variations in the amount of initial click, set PhaseInit to 1 (or 64 or 127) and add your own Punch if necessary. Also, of course, I had forgotten that, for bassdrums I always use the phaseinit. Once you hear the weird randomness you notice and you just turn it on, so I forgot to mention it. Another way to get some cool bassdrums would be to use a quick envelope (or an LFO in Env mode) on a highly resonant filter. tune the filter so that you don't get too much high frequencies, just a low end "thump"... but those sound a lot different. It was the first time I read about the pitch Env. way and it surprised me quite a bit... naive as I am...;) Judging from the different sounds they put on the Future Music CD, you should use quite a bit of compression on those bass drums though... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 29 12:06:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:02:04 +0100 Subject: Re: Virus bassdrum (for those looking for lo lo lo end) * From: Schorsch Am 26-Mai-98 schrieb access-list@teklab.com: >* From: "Howard Scarr" >Let's swap some more sound-programming tips in this list! What I did was to create a simple sine wave. No filters, no modulation, one osc only. This sound played so low that it is hardly audible adds a lot of power to your bassline. Very simple, but impressive. ->Schorsch ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 27 20:48:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:47:37 +0100 Subject: Manual-problems * From: Anders Palmqvist Hello everybody. I'm a brandnew Virus-owner with a manualproblem. My instrument has been delivered with the original german manual. And I could get by with that, Iīm not totally lost in the german language. But it would be a much smoother ride through the technical mumbojumbo with an english manual. I know I can get it in pdf.format but here itīs getting trickier... >From Access' homepage I just get a random chaos of letters and numbers ending up in nothing, no document. >From Canineīs homepage my browser receives a pdf.document after a couple of minutes downloading. The trouble is, when trying to open that document the Acrobat Reader tells me that it contains "unknown information" or something like that. It still opens the document, showing a perfect view of the register of the contents to the left, but the pages are blank. Confronting a musicdealer with it he told me my Mac-computer would be the problem. Not able to read the file created in Windows. Is that true, and if so, is there any solution, part from kneeling towards Seattle trying to reach Bill Gates on a higher level? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? And in that case, which tree shoulīd I bark up on then? Anders. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 27 20:51:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:50:51 +0100 Subject: Manual-problems * From: Anders Palmqvist Hello everybody. I'm a brandnew Virus-owner with a manualproblem. My instrument has been delivered with the original german manual. And I could get by with that, Iīm not totally lost in the german language. But it would be a much smoother ride through the technical mumbojumbo with an english manual. I know I can get it in pdf.format but here itīs getting trickier... >From Access' homepage I just get a random chaos of letters and numbers ending up in nothing, no document. >From Canineīs homepage my browser receives a pdf.document after a couple of minutes downloading. The trouble is, when trying to open that document the Acrobat Reader tells me that it contains "unknown information" or something like that. It still opens the document, showing a perfect view of the register of the contents to the left, but the pages are blank. Confronting a musicdealer with it he told me my Mac-computer would be the problem. Not able to read the file created in Windows. Is that true, and if so, is there any solution, part from kneeling towards Seattle trying to reach Bill Gates on a higher level? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? And in that case, which tree shoulīd I bark up on then? Anders. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed May 27 23:14:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Manual-problems * From: Tim Anderson Have you tried redownloading it? It sounds like a connection problem.. I downloading the pdf format from the tsi site.. I went into their ftp site and found it there and downloaded it.. I really recommend you trying this again, or also try to redownload it from Canines site.. Before on occasion I will have downloading problems with the internet where a file that would take quite a bit to download says its done in a short time and of course, the download was incomplete. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 28 14:17:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:17:47 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: Manual-problems * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 19:50 Uhr -0000 on 27.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >be the problem. Not able to read the file created in Windows. Is that true, and if so, is there any solution, part from kneeling towards Seattle trying to reach Bill Gates on a higher level? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? And in that case, which tree shoulīd I bark up on then? right tree, wrong day....;)) i have been told there are some problems about the PDF files, and I will be looking into this on the weekend. I am a bit on a tight schedule right now, so I hope you have a bit of patience. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 28 20:07:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:11:13 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: ACCESS speaks * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" this is a response from Access that Christoph asked me to put on the list: Hi Users, >From: Tim Anderson >Also, I would like to see (as I remember someone mentioning here or on the wishlist) a more flexible saturation portion.. Like controllable by numbers and not just the straight curves. I wonder if that would be possible. IT IS POSSIBLE !!!!!! This is what i wrote a couple days ago in 'Virus distortion !?' Turn the OSC VOL knob from the middle position to the right, to get a saturation gain of up to 12 dB (24 dB on Digital Curve), without increasing the volume. (english manual page 34). To hear the full spectrum of the distortion, you must bypass or disable Filter2 (Cutoff to maximum in serial mode). But you can still filter2 to form the saturation spectrum. >Weld wrote: >you are overloading the vca's on the virus and what you are hearing is a very pleaseant version of saturation which is basically the creation of rich harmonic overtones. continued luck Funny that everybody likes the Input Boost parameter! Actually I didn't program any virtual analog voodoo for the Input Boost. It's just a simple digital boost for people who don't have the right gear to supply a correct gained signal to the virus. (e.g. a direct plugged e-guitar). You cannot the Virus by boosting the input. What you get when you distort a signal by the Boost is a simple digital clipping inside the Virus. You should get the same results by using the Digital Curve of the saturation unit. (But - sorry - you wouldn't get the large volume increase here that you get from the Input Boost - This might be what the boost makes sound so terrific?!?). Advantages using the Saturation unit to distort an input signal: - the possibility to use others than a digital characteristic!! - you can save the settings with the single patch - you are using the Virus the way we supposed it (just kidding!) I would be interested if someone gets a better distortion result from the Boost than from the Saturation unit (in sound, not in volume!), then I will reconsider the whole Virus project. >From: Tim Anderson >Hierarchical Menus. The Ctrl and Edit Menu is a pain. How's that: Pressing Ctrl gives a list of Menu choices (e.g. MIDI, SYSTEM,....Return). >Selecting a menu choice with the value button and pressing Ctrl again steps one >level >deeper into the menu, Return goes back one level. We have no auto-scroll through the menus, but I think we have something like easy hierarchical menus: Hold one (left or right) parameter key while you press the other to step through the menu groups. We chosed this concept for a fast access (sic) but to keep the menus linear and easy. have fun Christoph Kemper ACCESS think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 28 22:36:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 28 May 98 16:33:59 -0400 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net Subject: Re: ACCESS speaks * From: evening >We have no auto-scroll through the menus, but I think we have something like easy hierarchical menus: >Hold one (left or right) parameter key while you press the other to step through the menu groups. We chosed this concept for a fast access (sic) but to >keep the menus linear and easy. Ahhh - I knew there had to be a way to get through the pages faster... ( without reading the manual that is...) I luuuuuuv my Virus more each day. jmw ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu May 28 23:59:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:58:39 +0100 Subject: Manual-solutions. * From: Anders Palmqvist >right tree, wrong day....;)) > >i have been told there are some problems about the PDF files, and I will be looking into this on the weekend. I am a bit on a tight schedule right now, so I hope you have a bit of patience. Ofcourse Iīm frustrated, ofcourse Iīm dying for knowledge of the mysteries of this red monster. But still, full understanding for you being busy. Keep up the good work... Anders. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 29 01:05:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: ACCESS speaks * From: Tim Anderson >>Weld wrote: >>you are overloading the vca's on the virus and what you are hearing is a very pleaseant version of saturation which is basically the creation of rich harmonic overtones. continued luck > >Funny that everybody likes the Input Boost parameter! Actually I didn't program any virtual analog voodoo for the Input Boost. >It's just a simple digital boost for people who don't have the right gear to >supply a correct gained signal to the virus. (e.g. a direct plugged e-guitar). >You cannot the Virus by boosting the input. What you get when you distort a signal by the Boost is a simple digital >clipping inside the Virus. >You should get the same results by using the Digital Curve of the saturation >unit. >(But - sorry - you wouldn't get the large volume increase here that you get >from the Input Boost - This might be what the boost makes sound so terrific?!?). Actually, I have found on my K2000 that when I send a much hotter signal even turned down in volume on the mixer to the signal of a typical signal, when I examine it on a frequency analyzer I tend to find there ARE differences. I know sonically of course, a hotter signal will sound better (I forget what its called, but it is due to the way our ears are not "flat" in response, but that the bass response actually improves to a more realistic level as the sound level increases), but I am not even referring to that. I am referring to if in some synths such as the K2000, if you send a sound with a 6db Output gain with the mixer set at a the normal position, and then have the same sound set at 18db Output gain and turn the mixer down the 12db to compensate, I have found using a frequency analyzer that the 18db sound is more "excited". Results varied as to what frequencies were excited based on the sound. As to how this relates to the virus, I have tried sending drum loop, or rythmic material in with the boost parameter set higher and then it set off and just using the saturation (with the filters inactive in both cases) and turned up at the mixer to compensate, and I must say that the "boost" created a much more edgy sound. Granted, I like NIN, and all that digitally destroyed sound, and this is what I am referring to in this case. I find I can squeeze the sound to insanely nasty levels for a really edgy sound. If I were trying to add some excitement to say a pad through it, I definately might prefer using the saturation over the boost, especially because it is more controllable, but who knows. I am of the "try everything twice" before making your decision mentality. >We have no auto-scroll through the menus, but I think we have something like >easy hierarchical menus: >Hold one (left or right) parameter key while you press the other to step >through the menu groups. We chosed this concept for a fast access (sic) but to >keep the menus linear and easy. That does work a little better... Although I for one would still like to see an autoscroll, but I am glad to learn about that. Tim Anderson terminalbliss@rocketmail.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri May 29 02:22:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:23:38 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Manual-solutions. * From: "onno" I don't to sound stuppid but i have not had had any trouble downloading those pdf files since the second day they were on thew site.I used acrobat reader 3.01 from one of those free cd's that come with a mag. I believe that this is'nt hard to get if u use www.ftpsearch.com and search for the nearest acrobat reader files for a quick download. Is the PDF file corrupt or has adobe fitted acrobat with a anti VIRUS patch List works like a gem Green Giant holding the red monster for keeps ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 30 15:01:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:00:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: ACCESS speaks * From: "Howard Scarr" >Funny that everybody likes the Input Boost parameter! I don't think this is *so* representative of all Virus-users. I for one don't use the Virus as a digital distortion unit! >I would be interested if someone gets a better distortion result from the Boost than from the Saturation unit (in sound, not in volume!), then I will reconsider the whole Virus project. ;-) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat May 30 20:39:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 30 May 98 20:42:25 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: S.O.S. - Lost sounds from the B-Bank!! Please help!! * From: Raymund Beyer Dear List Members, I just have the problem with the lost sounds in the B-bank. I was working on an actual production and when I turned on the Virus today the sounds are still there (in memory) but I canīt hear anything. I have allready tried to dump the memory content to Sound Diver -> Reset Virus incl. Patches and Multis -> sended back the patches to the Virus = didnīt work :-( Wrighting the Bank B sounds to bank A = doesnīt work. So is there any possibility to get my sounds back? Isnīt iz better NOT to use Bank B until this bug is fixed (I use the OS 1.53). Any help is very welcome!!!! Regards Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 31 15:12:52 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:15:55 +0200 X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Subject: Re: S.O.S. - Lost sounds from the B-Bank!! Please help!! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 18:42 Uhr -0000 on 30.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >So is there any possibility to get my sounds back? Isnīt iz better NOT to use Bank B until this bug is fixed (I use the OS 1.53). I don't know what has happened in your case, but I have never experienced any problems regarding Bank B. Have you checked your ouput routings? if your Multi has died, maybe your outputs have gone haywire and you have the wrong channels on the mixer or something like that. if there is no sound at all, make sure you are ruling out things like Volume changes being sent to the virus etc. then contact tech support... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 31 18:21:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 12:20:17 EDT Subject: Re: Re: S.O.S. - Lost sounds from the B-Bank!! Please help!! * From: DjEliStar@aol.com I had the same problem with my Virus too! It only happened in multi mode but I could access the B bank in single mode easily. Try this: In the multi mode press edit begin at part number and make sure it corresponds with you midi channel press parameter right one time and make sure it says bank B be sure remaining parameters like volume etc. are set correctly. I believe this was all it took for me to free up my B bank. Hope this helps! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 31 18:40:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 09:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: S.O.S. - Lost sounds from the B-Bank!! Please help!! * From: Tim Anderson I also had problems with bank b... I decided I was going to check out some of the sounds available on your webpage, so I loaded up my sequencer and performed the bank dump of bank b.. It appeared to have worked, and when I looked at the sysex it seems to have been good.. Then I loaded up some other midi files from your site, and loaded them into the virus (with the force into bank b) option, and it worked fine.. After I played around with them, I was going to load my bank b sound back in... It did not work.. First it shows an (s) next to the channel I am on in the Virus screen.. And then (se) (the s above the e) this is on the far left side right next to the program number.. I looked in the manual, and couldn't find out what this is... My bank b sounds still make sound, but they are the ones I loaded from the internet.. My own dump of all the programs in bank b won't reload. Any idea what this problem is? Fortunately I only had a few of my own programs.. Most of mine were in bank a... But I'm concerned about this problem. In the future I will definately need to do this. BTW.. I use Cubase on the PC as my sequencer... And as I stated loaded all the other internet files worked fine.. Just not my own dump. >I don't know what has happened in your case, but I have never experienced >any problems regarding Bank B. > >Have you checked your ouput routings? if your Multi has died, maybe your >outputs have gone haywire and you have the wrong channels on the mixer or >something like that. > >if there is no sound at all, make sure you are ruling out things like Volume changes being sent to the virus etc. > >then contact tech support... > > >think different! > >Canine > >-- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun May 31 19:28:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 10:28:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: S.O.S. - Lost sounds from the B-Bank!! Please help!! * From: Gene Schwartz I did experience problems with Bank B while I had my Virus, although these occurred before I upgraded to 1.53. Try this: scroll through the parameters on one of the affected sounds, and make sure that none of them have an error message. I lost sound in Bank B, and found that every input mode setting was 'illegal'. > >At 18:42 Uhr -0000 on 30.05.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>So is there any possibility to get my sounds back? Isnīt iz better NOT to use Bank B until this bug is fixed (I use the OS 1.53). > >I don't know what has happened in your case, but I have never experienced any problems regarding Bank B. > >Have you checked your ouput routings? if your Multi has died, maybe your outputs have gone haywire and you have the wrong channels on the mixer or something like that. > >if there is no sound at all, make sure you are ruling out things like Volume changes being sent to the virus etc. > >then contact tech support... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. 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