X-From_: access-list-return-3388-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed May 10 23:48:13 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 18:06:56 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Jens: Can you describe the groove delay? Can you program little patterns for the delay to follow or are they all hardwired? Can you tap a rhythm in? Thanks, JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jens Wegerhoff" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. > > >Rick Reyes schrieb: >> >>Hey list, >> >>I was bored on my lunch break and decided to look over the preliminary OS >>4.0 PDF again. Wow, I love this machine. I can't wait to get my grubby little hands on this update. I have not been disappointed with a single update from Access thus far. This is sure to be no exception. I am continually amazed at the incredible innovation at Access. Much love for the >>Virus B and Access... >> >>Did any of you guys hear it in action at the Messe? >> >>Rick > >hi, > >I did, and it was awesome! marc schlaile did a great job in his performance. >the indigo, he played with was with the new 4.0!but as a beta, as far as i know! >the groove delay is really cool,also the reverb. > >stay fresh > > >jens > X-From_: access-list-return-3390-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 00:31:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Jon k." To: Subject: RE: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 00:49:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 >* the groove delay is really cool,also the reverb. > Did the reverb sound any good?? Jon k. X-From_: access-list-return-3391-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 01:21:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [24.14.215.87] From: "- 21 -" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: [Virus] The word is.. Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:32:07 PDT ..that the new Access Virus models will indeed be shipping in June. Access Virus Indigo: $1649 US Access Virus Rack: $749 US Can't wait!! :) Eric ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3407-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 10:01:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 01:14:46 +0100 From: DTM Reply-To: catron3@slip.net X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: is anyone else getting aubrey? Have your e-mail program automatically target all of this posts for the trash and you'll never be bothered by this git again! MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: >sounds like sarcasm to me... just wondering if i'm the only one feeling this.. mgX-From_: access-list-return-3392-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 02:14:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: [OT] Is the K7 any good? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:23:22 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Hi Aubrey, >Hi, could anyone tell me from first hand experience if anyone is working on a K7 and doing HD recording on the machine. The world's largest DAW is an Athlon system doing 80 - 96 tracks with Ensoniq Paris. This is run by Brian Tankersley who mixed Shania Twain's hit album... The Athlon has better price-performance and a better floating-point unit which is key for plugins. The P3 chips which supposedly match its performance are not in fact available in quantity. Sometime soon a new revision Athlon will achieve another large performance leap. However they're pretty fast currently. One thing to note: some Athlon systems use overclocked PCI buses or Via chipsets which may be less compatible with audio hardware. A good site for reference is: www.tomshardware.com Cheers, Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3393-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 02:15:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:24:37 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Hi Aubrey, >Please could someone tell me from a sequencer stability point of view, which is better, running Cubase on a MAC or a PC? Both are completely stable if you keep the power switch off. Cheers, Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3394-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 02:21:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:32:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Virus] The word is.. To: access-list@teklab.com Maybe we've already covered this but I see that the Virus kB is offered for just about the exact same price as the Indigo below ($1695 for kb @ 8th Street). And I'm assuming that $1649 is the street price since much lower and you'd be at about the Virus b street price. So we're talking cool LED's and a silver case for the same price as a full keyboard. Hmmmm... That's a tough one... -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [Virus] The word is.. Author: Non-HP-fluid1 (fluid1@hotmail.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/10/00 4:32 PM ..that the new Access Virus models will indeed be shipping in June. Access Virus Indigo: $1649 US Access Virus Rack: $749 US Can't wait!! :) Eric ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3395-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 02:23:22 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Re: [OT] For Sale - Waldorf Pulse Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:32:28 +1200 X-Priority: 3 >because there were no type mismatches in your OT-postings I suppose you were not drunk when you wrote them. Non-drunk posting is specifically forbidden on the Access list. Cheers, Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3396-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 02:30:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Drum maps Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:38:46 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Hi John, >It sounds like a polyphonic collection of various monophonic patches... I'd agree with that in most cases, but you might be able to assign a range of keys to one patch, eg to play pitched kicks or hits. And then you could play such a hit simultaneously with two different notes... but for most drum purposes you'd use them as mono. >I guess the benefit is that you are able to access all sounds from a single keyboard at one time w/o resorting to splits ??? Don't you kind of have the same ability currently if, for example, you set up a Bass Drum in part 1 of a multi that only spanned key C4 and listened on Midi Channel 10 and a snare drum that only spanned C#4, etc...? Yeah, I think this is entirely possible at the moment. >I'm having a little trouble seeing the benefits??? I guess if you are allowed 1 drum map part that consists of a bunch of sounds and the addt'l 15 you effectively get more multi parts (???) Not sure if part-counts are the benefit. It might just make it easier to setup the drum map by having patch selection & key-mapping in one place... Cheers, Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3397-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 02:40:06 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:49:13 +1200 X-Priority: 3 >Your purpose Should you choose to accept it... >is to destroy the community here, of which Access is a part of... >You're going out of your way to undermine Access's plan to make great music products, and Jay's plan to bring a great community together based around a great product. The Death Star will be in orbit in 8 hours. >Looks like you created a self fullfilling prophecy based on your fear of being disliked. The dark side lives in all of us... >Your attempt at trying to control the list and thwart product development is speaking well of your character. This is only the beginning. Dum dum, dumdumdum dum dum, dumdumdum dum dum, dumdumdumdum... [repeat] What are we gonna do? Guess only SHAFT can rescue us! Powa of the black side, gonna bitch-slap tha dark side Vader bend over, your time is over ... ! Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3398-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 02:48:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: MultiDumpTable for Logic Users Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:57:03 +1200 X-Priority: 3 >What I mean Christoph is that if Part Transpose, Part Detune, or the Part Volume is set to unusual values (e.g. Part Volume -64), you end up searching for the fault for quite a long time. What I get occasionally is far-negative transpositions. Think these are controlled by the same CC as for GM reverb or chorus... Sending these by accident can give transpose settings beyond the range of the V's buttons. Your patch turns into subsonic mud. Cheers, Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3399-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 04:19:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:39:09 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Thomas - You're just knockin' em out tonight... JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC >>Your purpose > >Should you choose to accept it... > >>is to destroy the community here, of which Access is a part of... > >>You're going out of your way to undermine Access's plan to make great music products, and Jay's plan to bring a great community together based around a great product. > >The Death Star will be in orbit in 8 hours. > >>Looks like you created a self fullfilling prophecy based on your fear of being disliked. > >The dark side lives in all of us... > >>Your attempt at trying to control the list and thwart product development is speaking well of your character. > >This is only the beginning. > >Dum dum, dumdumdum dum dum, dumdumdum dum dum, dumdumdumdum... [repeat] > >What are we gonna do? >Guess only SHAFT can rescue us! > >Powa of the black side, gonna bitch-slap tha dark side Vader bend over, your time is over >... ! > > >Thomas > X-From_: access-list-return-3400-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 04:43:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:54:08 -0700 (PDT) From: norsez Subject: [general]MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag To: access-list@teklab.com FYI, I saw the new issue of Keyboard US today. They had reviews of Korg MS 2000 and Virus. So if anyone is looking for the MS 2000's sound clips, they should be up at their site soon. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3401-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 05:01:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:12:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC To: access-list@teklab.com My god that was too funny - the list really needed it... -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC Author: Non-HP-thomasw (thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/10/00 5:49 PM >Your purpose Should you choose to accept it... >is to destroy the community here, of which Access is a part of... >You're going out of your way to undermine Access's plan to make great music products, and Jay's plan to bring a great community together based around a great product. The Death Star will be in orbit in 8 hours. >Looks like you created a self fullfilling prophecy based on your fear of being disliked. The dark side lives in all of us... >Your attempt at trying to control the list and thwart product development is speaking well of your character. This is only the beginning. Dum dum, dumdumdum dum dum, dumdumdum dum dum, dumdumdumdum... [repeat] What are we gonna do? Guess only SHAFT can rescue us! Powa of the black side, gonna bitch-slap tha dark side Vader bend over, your time is over ... ! Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3402-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 06:17:41 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:53:27 -0500 (CDT) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Surrounded. Is the surround sound in OS4 is going to use 4 outputs, or 2 outputs and psychoacoustics? Access? Anyone? Kinda OT: I was half asleep in my linear systems class when the professor started discussing what happened in the frequncy domain when you multiplied two signals. My first reaction: Woohoo! Ring modulation! My second reaction: My god, I'm a loser. When everything in life relates to synths, it's time to seek help.X-From_: access-list-return-3403-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 07:51:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 02:01:23 EDT Subject: Re: Virus kb packaging (beware) To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/10/00 2:31:39 PM, CKe9644719@aol.com writes: >Don't know what happened, but it did not leave our house that way. What did >Sweetwater say? Not much just that they were sorry they let that one pass them by. I also forgot to say that the unit looked used even though the wood and casing didn't have one scratch, the thing is that the dent on the upper right side of the chassis isn't very deep but I just don't understand how it was done unless it was hit with a small hammer. I am waiting still for some letter from Sweetwater that will let me send the unit back without paying FedEx S/H. The plastic bag that the Virus kb came in was resealed with brown duct tape also the box was resealed with the same color tape. I didn't say anything because somebody has to open the box before I do if it's coming from abroad. I had the urge to fix the unit myself but then I said wait a minute I paid for this to be new! So that's why I must send it back. I also asked Jeff Green from the store to make sure and pack the keyboard securely next time. Only Schoppenhauer knows what happened to my Virus Kb!!! MarkX-From_: access-list-return-3404-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 08:08:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 02:19:20 EDT Subject: Re: [OT] VIRUS-b vs Korg MS2000 To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/10/00 3:37:13 PM, gfg202@is8.nyu.edu writes: >The MS2000 is the access virus's equal in every way. Its true, I'm serious, > >FM told me so. > And I would add to that statement that the packaging of Korg is superior to Access! I got my M2kR today and it sound great and looks marvelous or at least new! MarkX-From_: access-list-return-3405-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 08:53:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 03:04:27 EDT Subject: Re: Surrounded. To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/11/00 4:28:57 AM, cerberus@moral.decay.net writes: >When everything in life relates to synths, it's time to seek help. Someday you might find out this isn't so. Murk aka: the old oneX-From_: access-list-return-3406-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 08:56:36 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [38.29.109.133] From: "Robert Tygers" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: ON Topic Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:07:09 GMT (finally drunk and ready to post) Filter Gain controls the volume of the oscillators before they are passed into the filters. It can thus also be used to control the amount of saturation (or rectification, or bit depth reduction, or whatever - don't forget these). I haven't tried it, but if you set LFO1 to modulate both OSC1 (with an initial amount of zero) and LFO1->OSC1 modulation depth, you should get only positive modulation (since a negative modulation times a negative depth should give a positive number). The actual shape of the modulation is theoretically an exponential curve (LFO1 amplitude squared times the depth of the LFO->OSC1 modulation depth modulation, heheh figure that one out) but I haven't tried this either. Contour applied to a sawtooth LFO will also give you exponential curves. Or try having an LFO modulate its own speed, etc. Such are the peculiar joys of a modulation matrix. The reason you can't edit the Multi settings in Multi-Single mode is because Multi-Single mode is intended to allow you to play a Multi but still edit all of the parameters on each of the Singles. Multi mode: play multiple patches, edit overall parameters. Multi-Single mode: play multiple patches, edit individual patch parameters. Single mode: I think you know this one. Personally I think the fact that Keyboard gave a Key Buy award to the MS2000 but not to the Virus just shows how out of touch they really are, but you don't have to wait for them to put samples on their website to hear the Korg. Harmony Central has MP3s attached to the press release that announced it. Go to http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM00/Korg/Korg-MS2000.html "Access never lies!" goes on the list with "As he stood mesmerised, surrounded by the long haired, dope smoking fans in corduroy trousers, his mind wondered to the the future and the day when he would own such a keyboard." and "Our unique 100% free software updates...are considered gifts to our loyal users." Don't bother having computer discussions with Dan the Burke. Years ago he was molested or something by Steve Jobs, and now there's nothing you can say to him that will convince him that his PC won't turn into a Mac when he's not looking at it. Hi norsez. Back to the medicine bottle. I have this terrible infection, you see... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3408-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 10:39:27 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 01:50:24 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: sync Organization: Yahoo! hi list http://geocities.yahoo.com/edsarkiss_kawh/sync.mp3 (300KB) here's the basics of the sound: OSC1 wave 10 OSC2 wave 10 OSC2 semitone +24 OSC BAL 0 LFO1 SHAPE triangle LFO1 TRISYMMETRY +63 (ramp-up) LFO1 CLOCK 4/1 LFO1->OSC2 (semitone) +48 the first note plays 4 bars at the above settings so OSC1 drones along at C1, but OSC2 starts at C1 and ramps up to C5 (the +48 semitones, courtesy of LFO1) at the end of the first note, SYNC gets turned on same note played again, OSC1 plays C1, and OSC2 gets modulated up four octaves. I think the effects of SYNC become apparent here. in playing around, if the OSCs are set to pulse wave, synced, OSC BAL is at +63 (OSC2 only), and OSC2 semitone gets modulated downwards fairly quickly, memories of the Cars' "I like the night life baby..." come rushing in... -zs ps... robert:: enjoyed the drunken post! now get back to that bottle...X-From_: access-list-return-3409-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 10:44:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 04:56:41 -0400 From: eat me Organization: feel my rage To: virus list Subject: FINALLY! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) after god knows how long, ive finally got a virus. its so wonderful. ive been lurking on this list for a good 9 months or more now. and now i shall be able to contribute. hahahaha tom -- get off my dick.X-From_: access-list-return-3410-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 12:37:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Rob Papen" To: , "Rick Reyes" Subject: Re: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:44:38 +0200 X-Priority: 3 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Rick Reyes Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: woensdag 10 mei 2000 19:43 Onderwerp: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. |Hey list, | |I was bored on my lunch break and decided to look over the preliminary OS |4.0 PDF again. Wow, I love this machine. I can't wait to get my grubby |little hands on this update. I have not been disappointed with a single |update from Access thus far. This is sure to be no exception. I am |continually amazed at the incredible innovation at Access. Much love for the |Virus B and Access... | |Did any of you guys hear it in action at the Messe? | |Rick Yes, a very nice demo of Mark!! Mark are your two demo-songs (I had earlier) online? The reverb of 4.0 and the groove delay are really hot!! Seeya infected ones, Rob X-From_: access-list-return-3411-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 12:53:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:03:59 +0100 Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC From: "Gerald Stringer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. ---------- >From: DDan The Burke To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC >Date: Wed, May 10, 2000, 10:41 am > >>Hello there. >> >>Please could someone tell me from a sequencer stability point of view, >which is better, running Cubase on a MAC or a PC? We all agree and know that MAC is better where it comes to designing stuff, but does it give you the same preformance as a PC running the same package? >> >>Thanks >>cyber7 (aka Aubrey) > >Hi Aubrey, > >I run a dual booting OS on a Dual Pentium III 450. I run Win 98 and NT. Cakewalk runs all day long and I am sure you would have no problems with Cubase on the PC either. > >No I don't agree that Mac is better for design, heck not even close...they are lucky to even be in use for graphics with how many blunders Apple has made in the past. ;) In fact, I've been a video game artist\designer for 10 years and have never needed to use a Mac, nor would I and for the software we use (3D Studio MAX) I couldn't if I wanted to, which I don't. > >Gawd I'm sick of those myths. Hehehe...yeah Macs *were* better for graphics right up to the point where PC's got a GUI, but those days are long gone. Not only is the PC cheaper and faster (1 Gigahertz now) but you can run multiple processors, you get SMP, protected memory, multi-threading..etc. I believe the Mac won't have that till OS 10, which has been in development for like a billion years now. Even then, Apple has hemorraged so much market share due to bad decisions it is a wonder they are still around even for the newbie iMac crowd. The G4 is a decent box but the OS still suck big time compared to the choices of Win 98, NT or Win2K...and I can triple boot them all if I want to. The PC may lack some styling, but it is functional, inexpensive, modular, upgradable and guess what, the Apple is just a PC with a Motorola-IBM designed chip anyway. Since when did Apple have IDE, Ethernet, AGP, PCI? Yep...guess who is the tail and who is the dog...Apple is playing catch-up in a big bad way... > >Dan The Burke >WwW.BurkeStudios.com > > > > > X-From_: access-list-return-3412-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 13:32:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 04:43:28 -0700 (PDT) From: norsez Subject: re: ON Topic To: access-list@teklab.com Robert schrieb: >Hi norsez. Hi Robert! :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3413-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 13:43:27 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 04:54:27 -0700 (PDT) From: norsez Subject: [OT] my Reaktor ensembles To: access-list@teklab.com Not sure if there are any Reaktor users around here, but I thought I'd share my ensembles. I have my two up at http://www.geocities.com/norsez/reaktor.html They are called Super EA-1 and Super ER-1. (There is an mp3 demo for the Super ER-1 too.) norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3415-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 14:39:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 05:50:27 -0700 (PDT) From: norsez Subject: re: [OT] reaktor ensembles To: access-list@teklab.com Mango, Thanks for the info! I didn't know there were groups like that before. I will go join right away. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3414-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 14:34:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:52:19 +0200 From: mango To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [OT] my Reaktor ensembles HAhaha, nice names for ensembles... And the page looks very nice too. with screenshots and everything... cool.. Have you considered joining a Reaktor mailinglist for exchanging of ensembles troubleshooting? there is one at egroups.com, it seems there is also another one, but i don't know where it is.... The one at egroups is at www.egroups.com/group/Reaktor-list Later >Not sure if there are any Reaktor users around here, but I thought I'd share my ensembles. I have my two up at http://www.geocities.com/norsez/reaktor.html They are called Super EA-1 and Super ER-1. (There is an mp3 demo for the Super ER-1 too.) > >norsezX-From_: access-list-return-3416-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 16:41:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:46:36 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal End of chat?? How about some more please: A hardware sequencer--- such as...? -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] >Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. X-From_: access-list-return-3417-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 16:52:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Mark Holloway" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:52:12 -0700 X-Priority: 3 For new hardware sequencers the top three for Electronica music are Akai MPC2000XL, Yamaha RM1x, or (my favorite) Kawai Q80EXe. AKAI - You get sampling, expansion options for FX, two midi outs, and sequencing. Costs about $1200 RM1x - 600+ Yamaha sounds (they're okay, not the greatest), 40+ drum kits, one midi out, sequencing. Costs $699 Kawai - Straight up sequencing! Like the Alesis MMT8 on steroids. Two midi outs/32 tracks. Very easy to use. Costs $365. There are a tons of legacy sequencers people still use today like the MPC3000, Akai ASQ10, Alesis MMT8, and more. The nice thing about the Kawai is it is the one that has survived throughout the last 12 years. Every few years Kawai enhances it with more memory, more midi options, etc.. Still my favorite personally!! Check out www.vintagesynth.com to see all of them. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Picone To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:46 AM Subject: Hardware Sequencers for Virus >End of chat?? How about some more please: > >A hardware sequencer--- such as...? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] > >>Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. X-From_: access-list-return-3418-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 16:57:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Server-Uuid: d781dff0-ea4a-11d3-898d-00104b09fa46 From: "Phillips, Adrian" To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: [Virus] The word is.. Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 08:07:35 -0700 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 X-WSS-ID: 150412CB84897-01-01 I would hope that $1649 would be more of a "Sam Ash Price".... Knowaht ah meen? Adrian * -----Original Message----- * From: dennis_schissler@hp.com [mailto:dennis_schissler@hp.com] * Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:32 PM * To: access-list@teklab.com * Subject: Re: [Virus] The word is.. * * * Maybe we've already covered this but I see that the Virus kB is * offered for just about the exact same price as the * Indigo below ($1695 * for kb @ 8th Street). And I'm assuming that $1649 is * the street price * since much lower and you'd be at about the Virus b * street price. So * we're talking cool LED's and a silver case for the same * price as a * full keyboard. Hmmmm... That's a tough one... * * -Dennis * * * ______________________________ Reply Separator * _________________________________ * Subject: [Virus] The word is.. * Author: Non-HP-fluid1 (fluid1@hotmail.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 * Date: 5/10/00 4:32 PM * * * * ..that the new Access Virus models will indeed be shipping in June. * * Access Virus Indigo: $1649 US * Access Virus Rack: $749 US * * Can't wait!! :) * * * Eric * ______________________________________________________________ * __________ * Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3419-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 17:07:52 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: bhook@verant.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 08:14:07 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Brian Hook Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus You left out the Roland sequencers (MC-500, MC-50, MC-80), which are probably some of the most important/influential ones ever: http://www.rolandus.com/PRODUCTS/MI/MI_SEQ.HTM Along with the Yamaha QX-3 and QX-5. Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their simplicity (i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they lack so many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot of sense. They can't do audio recording; they don't have easy to obtain libraries of music device definitions; they have very limited MIDI support (32-channel at best); poor storage capabilities; cramped UI; limited track support (32 tracks at the very most, usually 8 or 16 track); and low resolution timings (480ppq is the tops these days). Brian X-From_: access-list-return-3362-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed May 10 17:14:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: [OT] PC-vs-MAC Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:26:27 -0500 X-Priority: 3 I just switched to a B&W G3 for a Digi001 system, so I don't have much experience using it for music. I have been using both mac and pc for several years now. They both have strengths and weaknesses. I can tell you that it runs PTLE better and tighter than anything I ever got out of my PC running VST/24. Hey, I love the PC, but it IS much more of a headache. I do believe that the common opinion among those who have used both platforms, is that apps like VST and Logic run smoother and tighter on the Mac, with far less configuration issues. I personally have only used PTLE on a Mac, and it is FREAK'N TIGHT. I never got this out of my PC (Currently a PII 400 with 128 MB- Rage Fury 128, Advansys Ultra SCSI, Kinsington NIC) Now I'm sure this has something to do with the software, as well as the hardware. I have been working with Photoshop professionally for just under 5 years, and I DO greatly prefer using it on a Mac. Actually, I prefer using all my graphic apps on a mac. It's not because the PC can't do it, but rather, the keyboard shortcuts feel obtuse on the PC. Also, the mac has a lot easier time handling files that were authored on either platform. Now, I haven't done any 3D work since school (and that was my primary interest), but the PC definately had that arena coverd well. Well, I did love Power Animator on SGI. That kicked everythings ass at the time. Max was a definate leap from 3D Studio Release 4. If OSX is what it's hyped to be, it's gonna wipe the floor with windows. Not only asthetically, but in flexibility and power. Either way, MacOS is simply easier to install, configure and manage, but this is becomming less of an issue. On the other hand, Windows file management is stellar. Finding reasonably prices components (cards, expansion, etc.) for mac is just about impossible. Hell often, these expansions simply don't exsist. Major downer. Still, they do have the quality control that comes with producing both the hardware and software. Definatly one of my favorite aspects. Uhh, Ethernet? I may be wrong, but wasn't this great technology developed primarily by Apple, and adopted from the Mac? There have been plenty of bites taken from both sides of the field. I don't think they are playing catch up. I think it's a matter of cost effectiveness. While, I do believe it has degrated the quality of the machine in some aspects. Anyway, I love both platforms, and will continue to use both. Now that I have gone Mac for music, I will not be going back. It's just easier, tigher, and less of a headache. At least for me anyway. On the other hand, SoundForge is my favorite 2 track editor ever. The only downside is that it is only 16 bit. Now that I have gone 24 bit, I ain't going back there either. Still, I'll keep using it with sampler files... BTW: AFA multitrack editors. PT(LE) is the shit :-) I dare you to find a more intuitive audio environment. IMHO, it does not exist... Rick >Gawd I'm sick of those myths. Hehehe...yeah Macs *were* better for graphics right up to the point where PC's got a GUI, but those days are long gone. Not only is the PC cheaper and faster (1 Gigahertz now) but you can run multiple processors, you get SMP, protected memory, multi-threading..etc. I >believe the Mac won't have that till OS 10, which has been in development for like a billion years now. Even then, Apple has hemorraged so much market >share due to bad decisions it is a wonder they are still around even for the >newbie iMac crowd. The G4 is a decent box but the OS still suck big time compared to the choices of Win 98, NT or Win2K...and I can triple boot them all if I want to. The PC may lack some styling, but it is functional, inexpensive, modular, upgradable and guess what, the Apple is just a PC with >a Motorola-IBM designed chip anyway. Since when did Apple have IDE, Ethernet, AGP, PCI? Yep...guess who is the tail and who is the dog...Apple is playing catch-up in a big bad way... > >Dan The Burke >WwW.BurkeStudios.com > X-From_: access-list-return-3420-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 17:52:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:09:50 +0200 From: mango To: access-list@teklab.com CC: matman@mysticworks.com Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus >For new hardware sequencers the top three for Electronica music are Akai MPC2000XL, Yamaha RM1x, or (my favorite) Kawai Q80EXe. > I have a Kawai Q80 for sale or trade at the moment, i'm open to offers and all kinds of trades. I'm in the Netherlands, Europe.X-From_: access-list-return-3421-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 17:59:30 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:12:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dizzy J." X-Sender: dizzyj@monkey.eliteware.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus I own an rm1x, and quite like it. (the crossover from the hw-seq, a3k, and access lists are impressive). one benifit it has for some is the 480ppq. you can pretty much do all the uptempo complex beat type thing, and it sounds rock solid. Its my understanding that typically, that kind of thing is hard to get right on on of the oder boxes that only sports 96ppq I dont even use the internal sounds, just the sequencer. -dj On Thu, 11 May 2000, mango wrote: >>For new hardware sequencers the top three for Electronica music are Akai MPC2000XL, Yamaha RM1x, or (my favorite) Kawai Q80EXe. >> > >I have a Kawai Q80 for sale or trade at the moment, i'm open to offers and all kinds of trades. I'm in the Netherlands, Europe. X-From_: access-list-return-3422-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 18:19:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:21:34 -0700 From: Dan The Burke Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus To: access-list@teklab.com Reply-to: Dan The Burke X-Priority: 3 If anyone has a passing, rudimentary knowledge of a computer, be it Mac or PC, you can keep it running well enough to sequence with it. Don't just blame Windoze or Crapintosh...computers actually do work (if you know how to tune them) and most problems can be fixed. There are thousands of people writing music on Macs and PC's around the globe...if *someone* can do it than so can anyone else. One just has to consider the sum of what one wants to do on a computer. Since I like to play computer games, do 3D graphics with multiple processors, enjoy industry-wide support, upgradability and modularity, and a choice of OS, my obvious choice is the PC. I have already been a Mac user, an Amiga user, Atari, etc. and I got *really* tired of having to scrape the bottom of the software barrel, let alone the support barrel. Sure, there is software for Mac, sure you can run emulators for a PC, but the Mac is playing catch up and will be for some time to come. No offense, just facts...remember, I am a speed freak and gear freak. If I thought the Mac was a better all around single computer for everything you *can* do on a computer that I want to do, I'd have one in a second. And no I don't want a hardware sequencer for the good reasons listed previously...why would I trade in a hardware sequencer that I can stick a 40G hard drive in with a 20 inch display for a piece of expensive and proprietary hardware? ;) This whole Mac\PC thing seems like religion for some people...us against them, etc., but it really shouldn't be..this is about facts. If a Mac works for you, GREAT! Personally they look great (design) and are fast enough and finally are getting some modern technology, but I only want the best for everything I need to do. Can't get 3D Studio MAX for the Mac. Apple only recently became a friend of gamers and still plays catch up there, graphics wise, there was a time you could get everything on the PC and software for the Mac was more expensive (figure that out). My bro and I even started a company a long time ago solely using Macs...but when Apple could they raped us for every penny because they owned and still own the hardware and OS...so everything comes from them. Talk about a monopoly...I am glad they didn't standardize the industry to Apple, not that they had a chance in Hell without licensing hardware technology (remember the failed Motorola Mac clone attemot?). Just facts...if people say 'We all know Macs are better for design' then I guess this harangue was warranted. That's like saying, we all know Voyetra for DOS is the best sequencing tool! ;) Ah yes...well I wouldn't try my luck like that on so diverse and knowledgable a bunch now would I? ;) Dan The Burke WwW.BurkeStudios.com WwW.Mp3.com/NukleoN X-From_: access-list-return-3423-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 18:35:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:48:09 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus I have done all my sequencing in Cubase for the last few years, but I recently bought an RM1x, and I really like it. Here's why: 1. Carrying a hardware to a gig is a lot easier than carrying a computer, especially when you only have a 45 minute set, and your setup time is included in that. 2. If you're at a gig and someone (this usually means you) spills a beer on/knocks over your harware sequencer, you're out $500. If they break your computer, you're out $1000+. 3. A hardware sequencer is far less prone to crashing than either mac or PC. 4. If my computer is out of commission for a while (as it was when I installed my new CD-R a few weeks ago, stupid piece of crap) you can always just turn it off, take a deep breath, turn your chair ninety degrees, turn on your sequencer, and continue to make music. This one is important to me, because I hate being kept from making music just because my computer is down. 5. My RM1x has 600 sounds, most of which are cheesy, but some of which are usable. 6. You can *play* a hardware sequencer. I had never actually played my songs before I got an RM1x, just listened to them. It's a very different feel, let me tell you. As you can see, most of the points I listed had to do with live performance. If you are never going to play live, I suppose a software sequencer would be more than adequate. But for me, taking a computer to a live performance doesn't make much sense. Cam At 08:14 AM 5/11/00 -0700, you wrote: >Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their simplicity (i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they lack so many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot of sense. They can't do audio recording; they don't have easy to obtain etc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-3424-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 19:28:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:41:24 -0600 From: Russ Magee Subject: Re: [OT] VIRUS-b vs Korg MS2000 To: access-list@teklab.com X-Accept-Language: en Well, please don't think badly of Access Music for your damaged Virus KB. (My heart ached hearing of the poor thing wounded like that...) I got my KB through the mail as well (I'm in Canada), and mine arrived in pristine condition. I really don't trust those courier companies very much, to be honest. Despite the money they charge, they don't always take care of packages during delivery. No matter what they may claim. -Russ Glotox@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 5/10/00 3:37:13 PM, gfg202@is8.nyu.edu writes: > >>The MS2000 is the access virus's equal in every way. Its true, I'm serious, >> >>FM told me so. >> > >And I would add to that statement that the packaging of Korg is superior to Access! >I got my M2kR today and it sound great and looks marvelous or at least new! > >MarkX-From_: access-list-return-3370-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed May 10 19:32:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:44:43 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Hey list, I was bored on my lunch break and decided to look over the preliminary OS 4.0 PDF again. Wow, I love this machine. I can't wait to get my grubby little hands on this update. I have not been disappointed with a single update from Access thus far. This is sure to be no exception. I am continually amazed at the incredible innovation at Access. Much love for the Virus B and Access... Did any of you guys hear it in action at the Messe? Rick X-From_: access-list-return-3425-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 19:50:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Mike van Slingerland" To: Subject: Memory problems? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:45:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Hi you all, I own my virus b desktop with version 3.0B OS for a week now and must say what a killer machine!!!!!!! But I have got a problem. When I started my virus the first time it asked me ifÊI wanted to use the factory sounds for bank A&B and the multi sound bank. I answered yes to all of these 3 questions. I started making my own sounds and stored them in one of the single sound banks. everything ok till now. When I switch offÊmy virus for a short time (say 5 minutes) andÊswitch it on again the stored sounds are still in memory.(Without asking the factory sound guestions) But when I shut it down for longer times like 30min-1day and power it back on my virus asks again if I want to use the factory sounds. It doesn't matter if I choose Yes or No on those three questions. My own created sounds are gone! Answering yes on the questions gives me back the factory sounds.without my own created sounds Answering noÊ on the questions gives meÊpresets with weird names and signs. Without my own created sounds. Am I doing something wrong ? I'm desperate, I've gotÊgreat ideas of making really heavy sounds but am afraid to store them and losing them again. Best regards, Mike X-From_: access-list-return-3426-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 19:58:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Bill Slobotski" To: Subject: RE: Memory problems? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:06:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal My Virus has never asked me any questions.Ê Something has gone flakyÉ.. Bill X-From_: access-list-return-3429-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:09:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: From: "Tony Scharf" To: Subject: RE: Memory problems? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:14:53 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal sounds like what happens when some older synths memory battery would go out...but I thought the virus used a flash memory chip, so that this was not an issue...I could be wrong though.Ê It probably needs serviceing. -----Original Mesge----- From: Mike van Slingerland [mailto:mail2me@casema.net] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:45 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Memory problems? Hi you all, I own my virus b desktop with version 3.0B OS for a week now and must say what a killer machine!!!!!!! But I have got a problem. When I started my virus the first time it asked me ifÊI wanted to use the factory sounds for bank A&B and the multi sound bank. I answered yes to all of these 3 questions. I started making my own sounds and stored them in one of the single sound banks. everything ok till now. When I switch offÊmy virus for a short time (say 5 minutes) andÊswitch it on again the stored sounds are still in memory.(Without asking the factory sound guestions) But when I shut it down for longer times like 30min-1day and power it back on my virus asks again if I want to use the factory sounds. It doesn't matter if I choose Yes or No on those three questions. My own created sounds are gone! Answering yes on the questions gives me back the factory sounds.without my own created sounds Answering noÊ on the questions gives meÊpresets with weird names and signs. Without my own created sounds. Am I doing something wrong ? I'm desperate, I've gotÊgreat ideas of making really heavy sounds but am afraid to store them and losing them again. Best regards, Mike X-From_: access-list-return-3427-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:03:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:15:59 -0400 From: eat me Organization: feel my rage To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Memory problems? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Bill Slobotski wrote: > >My Virus has never asked me any questions. Something has gone flaky·.. my virus asked me what my favorite song was, what my zodiac sign is, how old i am, etc, but i just thought she was being nice. tom -- get off my dick. X-From_: access-list-return-3428-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:05:26 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:16:09 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Memory problems? Organization: Yahoo! i'd guess the little battery inside that keeps the flash ram charged up has gone kaput i've seen very similar problems in computers ... power them down for a day and they forget what kind of hard drive, etc. they have. if you're adventurous, you can probably fix it yourself, but you may want to take it to a music shop too... zs On 00-05-11 19:45, Mike van Slingerland wrote: >Hi you all, > >I own my virus b desktop with version 3.0B OS for a week now and must say what a killer machine!!!!!!! > >But I have got a problem. >When I started my virus the first time it asked me if I wanted to use the factory sounds for bank A&B and the multi sound bank. I answered yes to all of these 3 questions. > >I started making my own sounds and stored them in one of the single sound banks. everything ok till now. > >When I switch off my virus for a short time (say 5 minutes) and switch it on again the stored sounds are still in memory.(Without asking the factory sound guestions) > >But when I shut it down for longer times like 30min-1day and power it back on my virus asks again if I want to use the factory sounds. > >It doesn't matter if I choose Yes or No on those three questions. My own created sounds are gone! > >Answering yes on the questions gives me back the factory sounds.without my own created sounds > >Answering no on the questions gives me presets with weird names and signs. Without my own created sounds. > >Am I doing something wrong ? > >I'm desperate, I've got great ideas of making really heavy sounds but am afraid to store them and losing them again. > >Best regards, > >Mike X-From_: access-list-return-3430-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:11:12 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [167.177.39.6] From: "brooks rongstad" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Memory problems? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:16:28 CDT the unit is asking the questions that occur during a 'hard reset' something IS flaky if you power-up, and it does that automatically, without executing the procedure yourself. From: "Bill Slobotski" Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: Subject: RE: Memory problems? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:06:59 -0500 My Virus has never asked me any questions. Something has gone flaky·.. Bill ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3372-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed May 10 20:07:58 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: OSC 2 modulations Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:20:25 -0500 X-Priority: 3 I think when it was originally implemented, the filter envelop was not available as a source in the matrix. I can not remember for sure though... Rick >Everytime I go through the OSC menu on the Virus, I see the modulation "Filter Envelope -> OSC 2 frequency" and wonder why it is a fixed modulation. There are so many sources and destinations in the mod matrix, but there must be some special reason this one was singled out. Maybe it's a feature of retro synths? > >Bill > X-From_: access-list-return-3431-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:12:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com From: "cyber7 \(aka Aubrey\)" X-URL: http://www.mighty.co.za X-Blurb: Brought to you by MightyMail! X-Originating-IP: [196.2.56.5] Subject: re: FINALLY! Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:20:42 +0200 That's to say if your brains don't get sucked out first! On Thu, 11 May 2000 04:56:41 -0400, eat me wrote: after god knows how long, ive finally got a virus. its so wonderful. ive >been lurking on this list for a good 9 months or more now. and now i shall be able to contribute. hahahaha > >tom > >-- >get off my dick. > ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zaX-From_: access-list-return-3432-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:15:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: sync Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:22:57 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal We've had two invocations of 'Let's go' by 'The Cars' in two days, so I decided to play the CD and create the patch that, for me, put SYNC sounds on the map. The first time I heard it, it reminded me of a 70's toy called 'The Giggle Stick'. Anyone remember that? It was a whistle in a tube that would fall down ad go Aaaaaaeeooooooooooooow (sync effect). Anyway, here's my first attempt at the patch used in that song. Realize, I've only had the virus for 2 days, so bear with me if some unrelated irrelevant paramters in my patch aren't initialized to help clarify the point of how it works (upon dissection). You may need to twiddle to really get it. Here's the gist: its a pare of square waves in sync mode, with the pitch of OSC2 controlled by the filter (+62) and also velocity (+4). Discovery! In the original patch, the effect of this velocity assignment is used with a musical purpose: if you listen you'll hear the interval of a major 10th (3rd+8va) in the sync overtone when the first few notes are played, BUT, as if to avoid the out of key 'E# over C#' towards the middle/end of the phrase, velocity is used to kick the second oscillator up a few semitones. You'll hear it where Greg Hawkes hits it! To play the song you'll need to use VERY light touch on most notes. -Matt PS: I know ordinarily sending attachments to a listserv is verboten, but this one is actuall smaller than most emails! PPS: For more info on 'The Cars' check out http://www.ubl.com/ubl_artist.asp?artistid=4576&p_id=P+++++3850 PPPS: Which reminds me: the response curve of sensitivity to incoming midi velocity data should be adjustable ! ! ! (OS 5?) -----Original Message----- From: Zack Steinkamp [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:50 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: sync memories of the Cars' "I like the night life baby..." come rushing in... -zs ps... robert:: enjoyed the drunken post! now get back to that bottle... Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="letssync.syx" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="letssync.syx" Attachment converted: f2000:letssync.syx (????/----) (00007CF4) X-From_: access-list-return-3434-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:27:58 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Mike van Slingerland" To: Subject: memory problems Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:24:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Thanks guys, Just what I thought, I also thought it was theÊthe battery. But I'd just hoped it was something else ... Damn. I hope they can fix it quickly at the shop becauseÊI just can't wait to really get started with this little red devil. Maybe the battery is just a bit empty because in just layed there in the shop for about six months. But I'm going back with it definately. -==[MIKE]==- X-From_: access-list-return-3433-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:19:31 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com From: "cyber7 \(aka Aubrey\)" X-URL: http://www.mighty.co.za X-Blurb: Brought to you by MightyMail! X-Originating-IP: [196.2.56.5] Subject: re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:27:15 +0200 Yeah, is there anyone out ther with 4 midi-out ports? End of chat?? How about some more please: > >A hardware sequencer--- such as...? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] > >>Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. > ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zaX-From_: access-list-return-3435-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:37:31 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com From: "cyber7 \(aka Aubrey\)" X-URL: http://www.mighty.co.za X-Blurb: Brought to you by MightyMail! X-Originating-IP: [196.2.56.5] Subject: re: Re: OS4 - When to expect? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:47:54 +0200 >is 'coming soon' but never arrives :( >> >>know what I mean? >> > >Access never lies :-))) > >-Christoph > And there I hoped to 'leach' an answer out of you ;) .a ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zaX-From_: access-list-return-3436-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:43:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: sync Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:52:31 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Folks: I just noticed that the patch I created has it's UNISON mode set to twin. This is unfaithful to the capabilities of the synth it imitates and also adds a layer of timbral complexity that detracts from the strength of the fundamental. Should you install the patch, set UNISON to off and you'll be all set! -Matt X-From_: access-list-return-3437-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 20:45:22 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:52:32 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal 4? My sequencer (Cakewalk) drives 16 ports! -----Original Message----- From: cyber7 (aka Aubrey) [mailto:cyber7@mighty.co.za] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 2:27 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Yeah, is there anyone out ther with 4 midi-out ports? End of chat?? How about some more please: > >A hardware sequencer--- such as...? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] > >>Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. > ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.za X-From_: access-list-return-3438-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 21:11:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:22:14 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: sync Organization: Yahoo! matt, regarless of twin mode the patch is very very well done! congrats on your new purchase thanks! zs On 00-05-11 14:52, Matt Picone wrote: >Folks: > >I just noticed that the patch I created has it's UNISON mode set to twin. This is unfaithful to the capabilities of the synth it imitates and also adds a layer of timbral complexity that detracts from the strength of the fundamental. Should you install the patch, set UNISON to off and you'll be all set! > >-MattX-From_: access-list-return-3439-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 22:31:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:43:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dizzy J." X-Sender: dizzyj@monkey.eliteware.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: june? so the word on the net is that the indigo will be available in june. can anyone narrow it down further? im really thinking of getting one, butif its june/july, then i might just get the rack version. -djX-From_: access-list-return-3440-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 22:52:41 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:02:47 EDT Subject: Re: [OT] my Reaktor ensembles To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/11/00 11:54:55 AM, norsez@yahoo.com writes: >Not sure if there are any Reaktor users around here, If you have Metasynth do you need Reaktor or could you get by with Generator? MarkX-From_: access-list-return-3441-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 22:54:57 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:20:32 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus The old akai asq-10 or mpc60 are nice and software upgradeble, on the more esoteric end theres a few notron users here as well. Best weld www.notron.com Brian Hook wrote: >You left out the Roland sequencers (MC-500, MC-50, MC-80), which are probably some of the most important/influential ones ever: > >http://www.rolandus.com/PRODUCTS/MI/MI_SEQ.HTM > >Along with the Yamaha QX-3 and QX-5. > >Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their simplicity (i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they lack so many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot of sense. They can't do audio recording; they don't have easy to obtain libraries of music device definitions; they have very limited MIDI support (32-channel at best); poor storage capabilities; cramped UI; limited track support (32 tracks at the very most, usually 8 or 16 track); and low resolution timings (480ppq is the tops these days). > >BrianX-From_: access-list-return-3442-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 22:57:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:22:30 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus the older akai's have 2 in 4 out weld cyber7 (aka Aubrey) wrote: >Yeah, is there anyone out ther with 4 midi-out ports? > >End of chat?? How about some more please: >> >>A hardware sequencer--- such as...? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] >> >>>Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. >> > >----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** >http://go.to/cyber7 >(alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) >http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 >mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za >******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! >http://www.mighty.co.zaX-From_: access-list-return-3444-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu May 11 23:56:27 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:05:42 +0200 From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net "John E. Potter" schrieb: > >Jens: > >Can you describe the groove delay? >Can you program little patterns for the delay to follow or are they all hardwired? >Can you tap a rhythm in? > >Thanks, > >JP > hi, the groove delay is like a delay in form of drum or groove patterns! i didn«t get more details,but i think the groove delay patterns are hardwired like the new arpeggiator patterns.there is no mini sequencer in it! access,correct me, if i`m wrong! stay fresh jens X-From_: access-list-return-3445-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:02:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:11:53 +0200 From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net "Jon k." schrieb: > >Did the reverb sound any good?? > >Jon k. it«s from access!what do you expect it sounds like? ;-) stay fresh jens X-From_: access-list-return-3446-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:05:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: norsez Subject: Re: [OT] my Reaktor ensembles To: access-list@teklab.com Mark wrote: >If you have Metasynth do you need Reaktor or could you >get by with Generator? Not sure what Metasynth really is because I use PC. But Generator is an earlier version of Reaktor. There maybe fewer modules in Generator, a few more bugs and higher latency, but I think I could get by with it. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3447-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:08:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [24.14.215.87] From: "- 21 -" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:17:41 PDT I quote Keyboard Magazine: "Cons: Occasional stuck notes while sequencing or stacking sounds." I don't have my Virus yet.. saving up for the Indigo. But is there any truth to that statement from those that own the Virus? Keyboard Mag was using OS 3.0 . eric ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3454-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:28:12 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Stefan Trippler" To: Subject: Virus music Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:24:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Has someone on the list collected the URLs of virus musicians or mp3s that were published in this group ? I'd be glad if he could send them to me. Thanks Stefan trippler@widat.de btw. I have uploaded a new track to www.mp3.com/Immigrant --> Dispute The song describes my wifes reaction on my announcement that after the Messe I have to exchange nearly every piece of gear in my rack ;-) Still with Virus A sounds. And it looks like it will NOT be a V. B in the next weeks ;-) X-From_: access-list-return-3452-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:21:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:25:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "jeremy.whitaker" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag i've never gotten a stuck note on my Virus B. even in extreme situations where other synths get hung(i.e turning off my midi interface midstream). On Thu, 11 May 2000, - 21 - wrote: > >I quote Keyboard Magazine: > >"Cons: Occasional stuck notes while sequencing or stacking sounds." > > >I don't have my Virus yet.. saving up for the Indigo. But is there any truth to that statement from those that own the Virus? Keyboard Mag was using OS 3.0 . > > >eric >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3449-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:14:30 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: mpulver@midiwall.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:27:04 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag - 21 - (05:17 PM 05.11.2000) wrote: >I quote Keyboard Magazine: > >"Cons: Occasional stuck notes while sequencing or stacking sounds." > >I don't have my Virus yet.. saving up for the Indigo. But is there any truth to that statement from those that own the Virus? Keyboard Mag was using OS 3.0 . Keep reading in the review - I'm pretty sure that it says Access was aware of the problem and released (or was due to release) a fix at press time. Mark _______________________________________________________ |_) _ _||\/| _ _ ._ evolutionary electronica | \(/_(_|| |(_)(_)| | www.redmoon-music.com Blinky Lights at www.midiwall.com mark@midiwall.com _______________________________________________________ X-From_: access-list-return-3457-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:36:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Server-Uuid: d781dff0-ea4a-11d3-898d-00104b09fa46 From: "Phillips, Adrian" To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Surrounded. Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:36:41 -0700 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 X-WSS-ID: 1505E90F109261-01-01 And the groove delay? Details? * -----Original Message----- * From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] * Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:22 PM * To: access-list@teklab.com * Subject: Re: Surrounded. * * * In einer eMail vom 11.05.00 05:29:05 MEZ, schreiben Sie: * * > * > Is the surround sound in OS4 is going to use 4 outputs, or * 2 outputs and * > psychoacoustics? Access? Anyone? * * 4 outputs are used, accompained by an additional front/rear * balance. This * balance can be used for an external effect send as well. * * -Christoph * X-From_: access-list-return-3456-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:34:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:36:45 -0700 (PDT) From: chris B Subject: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] To: access-list@teklab.com I would like to filter all of my virus related e-mails into a seperate folder of my yahoo account. So much activity is going on now a days and i think it is time. TEKLAB and JAY, what would be useful is maybe haveing all emails have the word virus in the subject line. What do ya think? Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3455-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:31:37 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:37:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "jeremy.whitaker" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag i'm using 3.01 On Thu, 11 May 2000, jeremy.whitaker wrote: > >i've never gotten a stuck note on my Virus B. even in extreme situations where other synths get hung(i.e turning off my midi interface midstream). > > >On Thu, 11 May 2000, - 21 - wrote: > >> >>I quote Keyboard Magazine: >> >>"Cons: Occasional stuck notes while sequencing or stacking sounds." >> >> >>I don't have my Virus yet.. saving up for the Indigo. But is there any truth to that statement from those that own the Virus? Keyboard Mag was using OS 3.0 . >> >> >>eric >>________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> > > > X-From_: access-list-return-3459-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:40:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:41:32 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] At 03:36 PM 05/11/2000 -0700, you wrote: I would like to filter all of my virus related e-mails into a seperate folder of my yahoo account. So much activity is going on now a days and i think it is time. TEKLAB and JAY, what would be useful is maybe haveing all emails have the word virus in the subject line. What do ya think? Chris Nope. What would be better is that you filter on the From: or Reply-To: (or, better yet *any* of the headers) and search for the phrase "access-list@teklab.com". After all, that's what I do with my mail program (Eudora) and it has worked just fine for 10 years. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html X-From_: access-list-return-3458-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:37:45 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:46:51 -0400 X-Priority: 3 4 midi-outs? How about 4 Alesis MMT8s? 4 midi outs, 32 tracks, $400-500US. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cyber7 (aka Aubrey)" To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 2:27 PM Subject: re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus >Yeah, is there anyone out ther with 4 midi-out ports? > >End of chat?? How about some more please: >> >>A hardware sequencer--- such as...? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] >> >>>Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. >> > > >----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** >http://go.to/cyber7 >(alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) >http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 >mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za >******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! >http://www.mighty.co.za > > X-From_: access-list-return-3461-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:53:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:00:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Virus music + Access Contest Idea-->Christoph To: access-list@teklab.com I don't have all the links here at work but I happen to have mine (www.mp3.com/subgenius) and one for EX|EL who has some cool tracks (http://exel.illequipped.com/xl_music.html). There's a bunch of excellent musicians on the list who I'm sure will also gladly forward you their links as well. ----------- Now, I just happened to be perusing the Clavia site and noticed that they just completed an MP3 song contest where you had to use a Clavia product in your submission - winners won some cool Clavia hardware (1st place won a Nord Lead 2). How about an Access MP3 song contest? And the winner takes home an Indigo!!!! What a way to kick off this new synth! There's a lot of talent here and elsewhere so it would be a real challenge but it would also be a lot of fun and generate web hits and interest in the new Access gear. Plus we'd get a chance to hear all sorts of cool entries with the Virus showcased. These songs would provide further examples for would-be buyers to help make their decision. How about it Christoph? -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Virus music Author: Non-HP-trippler (trippler@widat.de) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/11/00 3:24 PM Has someone on the list collected the URLs of virus musicians or mp3s that were published in this group ? I'd be glad if he could send them to me. Thanks Stefan trippler@widat.de btw. I have uploaded a new track to www.mp3.com/Immigrant --> Dispute The song describes my wifes reaction on my announcement that after the Messe I have to exchange nearly every piece of gear in my rack ;-) Still with Virus A sounds. And it looks like it will NOT be a V. B in the next weeks ;-) X-From_: access-list-return-3460-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:47:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:00:41 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Cam - Excellent point about being able to "play" the hardware sequencers... Software sequencers definitely have their place (in my mind, to "mix down" to) but you can't really "play" them - kind of like a multitrack recorder where you can cut, paste, edit after the fact. Hardware sequencers (at least some of them) allow you to "play them" - for example, I've got the Korg Electribe ER1 and EA1 which I use mainly for the sequencers. Program a pattern, hit play, mute/unmute tracks and specific steps on the 16 step grids... I record these patterns (w/ various manipulations as described) into my MMT8, play the MMT8 - mute/unmute various patterns from it into Cakewalk. I definitely look at hardware sequencers as another instrument... I've even been thinking about a Doepfer MAQ 16/3, Quasimidi Polymorph, or Korg MS2000 just for their sequencers. JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam" To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus >I have done all my sequencing in Cubase for the last few years, but I recently bought an RM1x, and I really like it. Here's why: > >1. Carrying a hardware to a gig is a lot easier than carrying a computer, especially when you only have a 45 minute set, and your setup time is included in that. > >2. If you're at a gig and someone (this usually means you) spills a beer on/knocks over your harware sequencer, you're out $500. If they break your >computer, you're out $1000+. > >3. A hardware sequencer is far less prone to crashing than either mac or PC. > >4. If my computer is out of commission for a while (as it was when I installed my new CD-R a few weeks ago, stupid piece of crap) you can always >just turn it off, take a deep breath, turn your chair ninety degrees, turn on your sequencer, and continue to make music. This one is important to me, because I hate being kept from making music just because my computer is >down. > >5. My RM1x has 600 sounds, most of which are cheesy, but some of which are usable. > >6. You can *play* a hardware sequencer. I had never actually played my songs before I got an RM1x, just listened to them. It's a very different feel, let me tell you. > >As you can see, most of the points I listed had to do with live performance. If you are never going to play live, I suppose a software sequencer would be more than adequate. But for me, taking a computer to a live performance doesn't make much sense. > >Cam > >At 08:14 AM 5/11/00 -0700, you wrote: >>Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their simplicity (i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they lack so >>many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot of sense. They can't do audio recording; they don't have easy to obtain >etc. > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to >=:-|= > > X-From_: access-list-return-3462-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 00:59:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:01:50 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] Organization: Yahoo! I'm probably the best one on the list to answer this one (check the email address ;-) from http://mail.yahoo.com/ Click on the 'Options' link in the menu on the left of the screen. Click on the 'Filters' link (2nd column, 3rd row) Click on the 'Create' button On the line that begins with: "To/Cc header" type 'access-list@teklab.com' into the textbox ... almost done ... On the line that begins: "Deliver message to" pull down the list and select '[New Folder]' Press the 'Save' button. a window will pop up asking you to name the folder type in a name (like 'Virus') and press Enter now all the messages from the list will be filtered into the 'Virus' folder. bridging the Yahoo-Access gap, zs On 00-05-11 15:36, chris B wrote: > >I would like to filter all of my virus related e-mails into a seperate folder of my yahoo account. >So much activity is going on now a days and i think it is time. > >TEKLAB and JAY, what would be useful is maybe haveing all emails have the word virus in the subject line. What do ya think? > >Chris > > > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3463-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:01:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: Re: Virus music Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:12:19 -0400 X-Priority: 3 I don't have all the links - I pretty much pulled the files down to my PC but here's a bunch of links from mp3.com. I included your stuff too (but I'm sure you figured that out)... http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/48/subgenius.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/95/vectors_united.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/102/pathfinder.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/55/the_clockwork_collective.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/47/dayz_aka_randy_kraft.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/22/norsez.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/114/immigrant.html Why don't one of you guys who are already on mp3.com set up a Virus site like the Waldorf list did (I've got no idea what level of effort that might take). http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/34/waldorf_cd.html http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/37/waldorf.html JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Trippler" To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 6:24 PM Subject: Virus music >Has someone on the list collected the URLs of virus musicians or mp3s that were published in this group ? >I'd be glad if he could send them to me. > >Thanks Stefan >trippler@widat.de > >btw. I have uploaded a new track to >www.mp3.com/Immigrant --> Dispute >The song describes my wifes reaction on my announcement that after the Messe >I have to exchange nearly every piece of gear in my rack ;-) Still with Virus A sounds. And it looks like it will NOT be a V. B in the next weeks ;-) > > X-From_: access-list-return-3465-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:08:04 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:14:57 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal I agree it would be nice if the subject could be prefaced by [access list] However, I'm currently using the 'TO:' field for sorting with no trouble. -M@ -----Original Message----- From: chris B [mailto:toagenius@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 6:37 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] I would like to filter all of my virus related e-mails into a seperate folder of my yahoo account. So much activity is going on now a days and i think it is time. TEKLAB and JAY, what would be useful is maybe haveing all emails have the word virus in the subject line. What do ya think? Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ X-From_: access-list-return-3466-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:10:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Virus music + Access Contest Idea-->Christoph Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:15:00 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Aiming an indigo giveaway at access virus users seems to me to be like preaching to the converted. -M@ -----Original Message----- From: dennis_schissler@hp.com [mailto:dennis_schissler@hp.com] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:01 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus music + Access Contest Idea-->Christoph I don't have all the links here at work but I happen to have mine (www.mp3.com/subgenius) and one for EX|EL who has some cool tracks (http://exel.illequipped.com/xl_music.html). There's a bunch of excellent musicians on the list who I'm sure will also gladly forward you their links as well. ----------- Now, I just happened to be perusing the Clavia site and noticed that they just completed an MP3 song contest where you had to use a Clavia product in your submission - winners won some cool Clavia hardware (1st place won a Nord Lead 2). How about an Access MP3 song contest? And the winner takes home an Indigo!!!! What a way to kick off this new synth! There's a lot of talent here and elsewhere so it would be a real challenge but it would also be a lot of fun and generate web hits and interest in the new Access gear. Plus we'd get a chance to hear all sorts of cool entries with the Virus showcased. These songs would provide further examples for would-be buyers to help make their decision. How about it Christoph? -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Virus music Author: Non-HP-trippler (trippler@widat.de) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/11/00 3:24 PM Has someone on the list collected the URLs of virus musicians or mp3s that were published in this group ? I'd be glad if he could send them to me. Thanks Stefan trippler@widat.de btw. I have uploaded a new track to www.mp3.com/Immigrant --> Dispute The song describes my wifes reaction on my announcement that after the Messe I have to exchange nearly every piece of gear in my rack ;-) Still with Virus A sounds. And it looks like it will NOT be a V. B in the next weeks ;-) X-From_: access-list-return-3464-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:04:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:15:16 -0700 From: Matthew Stolley Subject: Re: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] To: access-list@teklab.com Organization: Food.com X-Accept-Language: en I filter like this: if the to or cc contains "access-list" then move to VIRUS_FOLDER. Works for me. Peace. chris B wrote: > >I would like to filter all of my virus related e-mails into a seperate folder of my yahoo account. >So much activity is going on now a days and i think it is time. X-From_: access-list-return-3467-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:16:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: mpulver@midiwall.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:25:53 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: RE: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] Matt Picone (06:14 PM 05.11.2000) wrote: >I agree it would be nice if the subject could be prefaced by [access list] However, I'm currently using the 'TO:' field for sorting with no trouble. My 2 cents is that I don't like cluttering up subject lines, but if the list admin adds this feature, then please keep the tag short. e.g., "[access]". Mark ________________________________________________________________ Stuff: http://www.midiwall.com X-From_: access-list-return-3468-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:20:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: Pulse Width? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:30:31 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Virusians: Can someone remind me what full range sweeps of the pulse width knob do on an analog synth? If my memory servers me correctly, doesn't it usually result in something different than the silence we get at 127 with the virus? I thought that one of my old synths used to get thinner until the fundamental was gone, leaving the perception that the pitch had crossfaded up an octave. Then again, maybe my 'Dead at 127' is an anomoly? Thanks, -Matt X-From_: access-list-return-3469-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:23:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:31:32 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: RE: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] At 06:25 PM 05/11/2000 -0500, you wrote: Matt Picone (06:14 PM 05.11.2000) wrote: >I agree it would be nice if the subject could be prefaced by [access list] However, I'm currently using the 'TO:' field for sorting with no trouble. My 2 cents is that I don't like cluttering up subject lines, but if the list admin adds this feature, then please keep the tag short. e.g., "[access]". Mark I'm not going to do it, I hate cluttering up the Subject: line - just filter on the other headers instead. Folks, "Subject:" is just like any of the other headers, such as "From:", or "To:" or "Reply-To:". Just filter on those headers and you should be set... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html X-From_: access-list-return-3471-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:29:06 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:40:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "jeremy.whitaker" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus i use a Doepfer Regelwerk, ER-1 and Studio Vision. An awesome combination. Interfacing with the Regelwerk is much more fluid and musical than my 8 years of working with Studio Vision. The RW has some limitations, but overall, it is an awesome live interface, a powerful sketchpad, killer drum sequencer, great loop tuner, and best friend...;) Playing with the Virus's wildly powerful synthesis and the Regelwerk's 8 X0X tracks set to varied loop lengths and time signatures is very cool. Plus, it's midi fader's work great with folks looking for a PC1600 type situations. someday i'll buy a MPC2000 and be done with the computer for everything but DA multitracking and sample tuning/SCSI foo... -j On Thu, 11 May 2000, John E. Potter wrote: >Cam - > >Excellent point about being able to "play" the hardware sequencers... > >Software sequencers definitely have their place (in my mind, to "mix down" to) but you can't really "play" them - kind of like a multitrack recorder where you can cut, paste, edit after the fact. > >Hardware sequencers (at least some of them) allow you to "play them" - for example, I've got the Korg Electribe ER1 and EA1 which I use mainly for the sequencers. Program a pattern, hit play, mute/unmute tracks and specific steps on the 16 step grids... I record these patterns (w/ various manipulations as described) into my MMT8, play the MMT8 - mute/unmute various patterns from it into Cakewalk. > >I definitely look at hardware sequencers as another instrument... I've even been thinking about a Doepfer MAQ 16/3, Quasimidi Polymorph, or Korg MS2000 just for their sequencers. > >JP > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cam" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:48 PM >Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus > > >>I have done all my sequencing in Cubase for the last few years, but I recently bought an RM1x, and I really like it. Here's why: >> >>1. Carrying a hardware to a gig is a lot easier than carrying a computer, especially when you only have a 45 minute set, and your setup time is included in that. >> >>2. If you're at a gig and someone (this usually means you) spills a beer on/knocks over your harware sequencer, you're out $500. If they break >your >>computer, you're out $1000+. >> >>3. A hardware sequencer is far less prone to crashing than either mac or >PC. >> >>4. If my computer is out of commission for a while (as it was when I installed my new CD-R a few weeks ago, stupid piece of crap) you can >always >>just turn it off, take a deep breath, turn your chair ninety degrees, turn on your sequencer, and continue to make music. This one is important to me, because I hate being kept from making music just because my computer >is >>down. >> >>5. My RM1x has 600 sounds, most of which are cheesy, but some of which are usable. >> >>6. You can *play* a hardware sequencer. I had never actually played my songs before I got an RM1x, just listened to them. It's a very different feel, let me tell you. >> >>As you can see, most of the points I listed had to do with live performance. If you are never going to play live, I suppose a software sequencer would be more than adequate. But for me, taking a computer to a live performance doesn't make much sense. >> >>Cam >> >>At 08:14 AM 5/11/00 -0700, you wrote: >>>Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their simplicity (i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they lack >so >>>many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot of sense. They can't do audio recording; they don't have easy to obtain >>etc. >> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to >>=:-|= >> >> X-From_: access-list-return-3470-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:27:13 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: mpulver@midiwall.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:43:00 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: RE: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] Jay Vaughan (06:31 PM 05.11.2000) wrote: >I'm not going to do it, I hate cluttering up the Subject: line - just filter on the other headers instead. WAHOO! Mark X-From_: access-list-return-3472-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:35:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:46:00 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Pulse Width? Organization: Yahoo! >Can someone remind me what full range sweeps of the pulse width knob do on an analog synth? If my memory servers me correctly, doesn't it usually result in something different than the silence we get at 127 with the virus? with the PW knob at zero, square waves are produced + +---+ +--- | | | | +---+ +---+ ^ ^ (wavelength) as you rotate the knob, the 50/50 proportion of the waves is changed + +-----+ +----- | | | | +-+ +-+ ^ ^ (wavelength) until finally the narrow parts fade into nothingness +-------+------ ^ ^ (wavelength) no oscillations, no sound -zsX-From_: access-list-return-3474-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:51:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: OT Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:01:47 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal OK, so can we swing to the software sequencing angle and talk about ups and downs? I'm on a PC. -M@ -----Original Message----- From: bigw [mailto:bigw@onbuffalo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 8:08 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: OT Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus cheapo buttons that stop working though and no direct way to back up sequences. IMHO Weld John E. Potter wrote: >4 midi-outs? >How about 4 Alesis MMT8s? >4 midi outs, 32 tracks, $400-500US. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "cyber7 (aka Aubrey)" To: >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 2:27 PM >Subject: re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus > >>Yeah, is there anyone out ther with 4 midi-out ports? >> >>End of chat?? How about some more please: >>> >>>A hardware sequencer--- such as...? >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] >>> >>>>Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. >>> >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** >>http://go.to/cyber7 >>(alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) >>http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 >>mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za >>******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! >>http://www.mighty.co.za >> >> X-From_: access-list-return-3475-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 01:54:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "John E. Potter" To: Subject: QRe: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:13:11 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Jeremy - Does the Regelwerk give you the ability to sequence midi data other than notes? For example, w/ the MAQ 16/3 you can use one of the tracks for notes, one for filter cutoff, and another for panning... JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeremy.whitaker" To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus > > >i use a Doepfer Regelwerk, ER-1 and Studio Vision. An awesome combination. Interfacing with the Regelwerk is much more fluid and musical than my 8 years of working with Studio Vision. The RW has some limitations, but overall, it is an awesome live interface, a powerful sketchpad, killer drum sequencer, great loop tuner, and best friend...;) Playing with the Virus's wildly powerful synthesis and the Regelwerk's 8 X0X tracks set to varied loop lengths and time signatures is very cool. Plus, it's midi fader's work great with folks looking for a PC1600 type situations. someday i'll buy a MPC2000 and be done with the computer for everything but DA multitracking and sample tuning/SCSI foo... > >-j > >On Thu, 11 May 2000, John E. Potter wrote: > >>Cam - >> >>Excellent point about being able to "play" the hardware sequencers... >> >>Software sequencers definitely have their place (in my mind, to "mix down" >>to) but you can't really "play" them - kind of like a multitrack recorder >>where you can cut, paste, edit after the fact. >> >>Hardware sequencers (at least some of them) allow you to "play them" - for >>example, I've got the Korg Electribe ER1 and EA1 which I use mainly for the >>sequencers. Program a pattern, hit play, mute/unmute tracks and specific >>steps on the 16 step grids... I record these patterns (w/ various manipulations as described) into my MMT8, play the MMT8 - mute/unmute various patterns from it into Cakewalk. >> >>I definitely look at hardware sequencers as another instrument... I've even >>been thinking about a Doepfer MAQ 16/3, Quasimidi Polymorph, or Korg MS2000 >>just for their sequencers. >> >>JP >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Cam" >>To: >>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:48 PM >>Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus >> >> >>>I have done all my sequencing in Cubase for the last few years, but I recently bought an RM1x, and I really like it. Here's why: >>> >>>1. Carrying a hardware to a gig is a lot easier than carrying a computer, >>>especially when you only have a 45 minute set, and your setup time is included in that. >>> >>>2. If you're at a gig and someone (this usually means you) spills a beer >>>on/knocks over your harware sequencer, you're out $500. If they break >>your >>>computer, you're out $1000+. >>> >>>3. A hardware sequencer is far less prone to crashing than either mac or >>PC. >>> >>>4. If my computer is out of commission for a while (as it was when I installed my new CD-R a few weeks ago, stupid piece of crap) you can >>always >>>just turn it off, take a deep breath, turn your chair ninety degrees, turn >>>on your sequencer, and continue to make music. This one is important to >>>me, because I hate being kept from making music just because my computer >>is >>>down. >>> >>>5. My RM1x has 600 sounds, most of which are cheesy, but some of which are >>>usable. >>> >>>6. You can *play* a hardware sequencer. I had never actually played my >>>songs before I got an RM1x, just listened to them. It's a very different >>>feel, let me tell you. >>> >>>As you can see, most of the points I listed had to do with live performance. If you are never going to play live, I suppose a software >>>sequencer would be more than adequate. But for me, taking a computer to a >>>live performance doesn't make much sense. >>> >>>Cam >>> >>>At 08:14 AM 5/11/00 -0700, you wrote: >>>>Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their simplicity >>>>(i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they lack >>so >>>>many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot of >>>>sense. They can't do audio recording; they don't have easy to obtain >>>etc. >>> >>> >>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 >>>join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you >>>want to >>>=:-|= >>> >>> >> > > > > > X-From_: access-list-return-3477-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 02:04:39 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: OT Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:14:11 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal How do I get there? -----Original Message----- From: bigw [mailto:bigw@onbuffalo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 8:23 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus id love to, but ask this over at music bar there are some real knowledgable folx over there who would love to answer best Weld Matt Picone wrote: >OK, so can we swing to the software sequencing angle and talk about ups and >downs? I'm on a PC. > >-M@ > >-----Original Message----- >From: bigw [mailto:bigw@onbuffalo.com] >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 8:08 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: OT Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus > >cheapo buttons that stop working though and no direct way to back up sequences. >IMHO >Weld > >John E. Potter wrote: > >>4 midi-outs? >>How about 4 Alesis MMT8s? >>4 midi outs, 32 tracks, $400-500US. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "cyber7 (aka Aubrey)" To: >>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 2:27 PM >>Subject: re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus >> >>>Yeah, is there anyone out ther with 4 midi-out ports? >>> >>>End of chat?? How about some more please: >>>> >>>>A hardware sequencer--- such as...? >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Gerald Stringer [mailto:geralds@lineone.net] >>>> >>>>>Use a hardware sequencer, End of chat. >>>> >>> >>> >>>----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** >>>http://go.to/cyber7 >>>(alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) >>>http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 >>>mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za >>>******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! >>>http://www.mighty.co.za >>> >>> X-From_: access-list-return-3479-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 02:28:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:35:32 -0700 (PDT) From: chris B Subject: Re: Virus emails and filtering situation [addmin] To: access-list@teklab.com Kick Ass thank you Zack! --- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >I'm probably the best one on the list to answer this one (check the email address ;-) > >from http://mail.yahoo.com/ >Click on the 'Options' link in the menu on the left of the screen. Click on the 'Filters' link (2nd column, 3rd row) Click on the 'Create' button >On the line that begins with: >"To/Cc header" >type 'access-list@teklab.com' into the textbox > >.... almost done ... > >On the line that begins: >"Deliver message to" > >pull down the list and select '[New Folder]' > >Press the 'Save' button. > >a window will pop up asking you to name the folder > >type in a name (like 'Virus') and press Enter > >now all the messages from the list will be filtered into the 'Virus' folder. > >bridging the Yahoo-Access gap, >zs > > > >On 00-05-11 15:36, chris B wrote: >> >>I would like to filter all of my virus related e-mails into a >seperate >>folder of my yahoo account. >>So much activity is going on now a days and i think it is time. >> >>TEKLAB and JAY, what would be useful is maybe haveing all emails >have >>the word virus in the subject line. What do ya think? >> >>Chris >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3480-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 02:45:14 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: DBDroid@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:50:53 EDT Subject: lfo / bpm To: access-list@teklab.com what is the correlation between the LFO flashes and the it's actual BPM I know I can hit the sync button to have on time, but I'd like to know what the BPM timing is from the very slow 001 to incredibly fast 127 ? thanx ~ AndrewX-From_: access-list-return-3481-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 03:10:14 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: , Subject: Re: Accidental transpose Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:19:34 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Christoph, >>What I get occasionally is far-negative transpositions. Think these are controlled by the same CC as for GM reverb or chorus... [Christoph says :] >They are only set by sysex. Virus A, operating system 2.51 MIDI continuous controller #93 Virus definition : Transpose General MIDI definition : Chorus level If 'Chorus' is sent or adjusted by accident, Transpose settings can be applied outside the normal +/- 2 octave range of the V's Tranpose buttons. This generally turns a patch to low-bass mud. It is a common cause for 'mysterious' malfunction of a patch. Cheers, Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3483-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 05:12:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: "Access" Subject: MIDI out? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:23:00 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Virusians: When I use LFO1 with an assignment, is the MIDI CC data that corresponds to changes in that parameter sent via MIDI out? I'd love to use the Virus LFOs to control various functions in my guitar rig in sync with the Virus internal clock. If not, I'll add it to my list of feature requests! --Matt X-From_: access-list-return-3484-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 05:37:39 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:48:34 -0700 From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MIDI out? Organization: Yahoo! unfortunately not. it would be cool, although I'd worry about the amount of MIDI bandwidth required to transmit 3 fast-moving LFO data streams. this is something that will probably appear with a new, high-speed midi spec. Anyone know what's up with MIDI 2.0 (or whatever it's called)? -zs On 00-05-11 23:23, Matt Picone wrote: >Virusians: > >When I use LFO1 with an assignment, is the MIDI CC data that corresponds to changes in that parameter sent via MIDI out? I'd love to use the Virus LFOs to control various functions in my guitar rig in sync with the Virus internal clock. > >If not, I'll add it to my list of feature requests! > >--MattX-From_: access-list-return-3482-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 04:52:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:09:28 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "jeremy.whitaker" Subject: Re: QRe: Hardware Sequencers for Virus The only other sequence parameter is Velocity. This can be used to a greater degree in a synth like the my Virus, Pulse and Prophecy, where I am able to map velocity to another internal parameter. Hopefully in future updates they will offer more options, but it is very likely they won't. That said, it hasn't been a major drawback on synths with LFO sync modulation capabilities. The sync'd LFOs on the Virus and the mod matrix provide for some very cool flexibility that is independent of the sequencer. The MAQ has obvious advantages for a more diverse single loop'd track. The Regelwerk has more tracks and has more realtime, global control, via the Midi Faders(24 useable in all). It's a give and take. I would love to have a MAQ as well, but I'm not Kraftwerk so I'll have to wait...=) -j >Jeremy - > >Does the Regelwerk give you the ability to sequence midi data other than notes? For example, w/ the MAQ 16/3 you can use one of the tracks for notes, one for filter cutoff, and another for panning... > >JP > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jeremy.whitaker" To: >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:40 PM >Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus > > >> >> >>i use a Doepfer Regelwerk, ER-1 and Studio Vision. An awesome combination. Interfacing with the Regelwerk is much more fluid and musical than my 8 years of working with Studio Vision. The RW has some limitations, but overall, it is an awesome live interface, a powerful sketchpad, killer drum sequencer, great loop tuner, and best friend...;) Playing with the Virus's wildly powerful synthesis and the Regelwerk's 8 X0X tracks set to varied loop lengths and time signatures is very cool. Plus, it's midi fader's work great with folks looking for a PC1600 type situations. someday i'll buy a MPC2000 and be done with the computer for everything but DA multitracking and sample tuning/SCSI foo... >> >>-j >> >>On Thu, 11 May 2000, John E. Potter wrote: >> >>>Cam - >>> >>>Excellent point about being able to "play" the hardware sequencers... >>> >>>Software sequencers definitely have their place (in my mind, to "mix >down" >>>to) but you can't really "play" them - kind of like a multitrack >recorder >>>where you can cut, paste, edit after the fact. >>> >>>Hardware sequencers (at least some of them) allow you to "play them" - >for >>>example, I've got the Korg Electribe ER1 and EA1 which I use mainly for >the >>>sequencers. Program a pattern, hit play, mute/unmute tracks and >specific >>>steps on the 16 step grids... I record these patterns (w/ various manipulations as described) into my MMT8, play the MMT8 - mute/unmute various patterns from it into Cakewalk. >>> >>>I definitely look at hardware sequencers as another instrument... I've >even >>>been thinking about a Doepfer MAQ 16/3, Quasimidi Polymorph, or Korg >MS2000 >>>just for their sequencers. >>> >>>JP >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Cam" >>>To: >>>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus >>> >>> >>>>I have done all my sequencing in Cubase for the last few years, but I recently bought an RM1x, and I really like it. Here's why: >>>> >>>>1. Carrying a hardware to a gig is a lot easier than carrying a >computer, >>>>especially when you only have a 45 minute set, and your setup time is included in that. >>>> >>>>2. If you're at a gig and someone (this usually means you) spills a >beer >>>>on/knocks over your harware sequencer, you're out $500. If they break >>>your >>>>computer, you're out $1000+. >>>> >>>>3. A hardware sequencer is far less prone to crashing than either mac >or >>>PC. >>>> >>>>4. If my computer is out of commission for a while (as it was when I installed my new CD-R a few weeks ago, stupid piece of crap) you can >>>always >>>>just turn it off, take a deep breath, turn your chair ninety degrees, >turn >>>>on your sequencer, and continue to make music. This one is important >to >>>>me, because I hate being kept from making music just because my >computer >>>is >>>>down. >>>> >>>>5. My RM1x has 600 sounds, most of which are cheesy, but some of which >are >>>>usable. >>>> >>>>6. You can *play* a hardware sequencer. I had never actually played >my >>>>songs before I got an RM1x, just listened to them. It's a very >different >>>>feel, let me tell you. >>>> >>>>As you can see, most of the points I listed had to do with live performance. If you are never going to play live, I suppose a >software >>>>sequencer would be more than adequate. But for me, taking a computer >to a >>>>live performance doesn't make much sense. >>>> >>>>Cam >>>> >>>>At 08:14 AM 5/11/00 -0700, you wrote: >>>>>Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their >simplicity >>>>>(i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they >lack >>>so >>>>>many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot >of >>>>>sense. They can't do audio recording; they don't have easy to obtain >>>>etc. >>>> >>>> >>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at >http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 >>>>join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying >you >>>>want to >>>>=:-|= >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> X-From_: access-list-return-3485-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 06:28:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:31:08 -0700 From: Dan The Burke Subject: Re: Virus music To: access-list@teklab.com Reply-to: Dan The Burke X-Priority: 3 >Has someone on the list collected the URLs of virus musicians or mp3s that were published in this group ? >I'd be glad if he could send them to me. > >Thanks Stefan >trippler@widat.de Hi Stefan, I'm a virus musician with an MP3 showcasing the Virus at www.mp3.com/NukleoN Listen to 'Reasons' for a Virus fix. ;) Dan Dan The Burke WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN WwW.Burkestudios.com X-From_: access-list-return-3486-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 07:32:35 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Stefan Trippler" To: , "Dan The Burke" Subject: Re: Virus music Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:39:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Thanks for the URLs :-) Nukleon and Subgenious already were on my list of favourites. Stefan ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan The Burke To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Virus music >>Has someone on the list collected the URLs of virus musicians or mp3s that >>were published in this group ? >>I'd be glad if he could send them to me. >> >>Thanks Stefan >>trippler@widat.de > >Hi Stefan, > >I'm a virus musician with an MP3 showcasing the Virus at www.mp3.com/NukleoN > >Listen to 'Reasons' for a Virus fix. ;) > >Dan > >Dan The Burke >WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN >WwW.Burkestudios.com > X-From_: access-list-return-3487-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 07:53:58 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:04:09 EDT Subject: Virus creation or evolution? To: access-list@teklab.com I was discussing with a friend on the characteristics of the green monkey and this led me on the path of thinking about the Virus and if it was modeled or was created. And all of the upgrades to it's OS makes it a candidate for an evolved instrument. The question is (ostensibly being a machine) is it both? A creation that has evolved? MarkX-From_: access-list-return-3488-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 08:10:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:20:36 EDT Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus To: access-list@teklab.com Oddly enough one of the most respected synthesist and film composers of underground orchestral ambient doesn't use a PC for sequencing, he says it hinders the creative process (it sounds logical to me). Paul Schutze uses an MC500. Mark IIX-From_: access-list-return-3489-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 09:19:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Virus] The word is.. Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:23:49 +0100 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Thu, 11 May 2000 18:21:52 EDT, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >Blue LEDs (very expensive) and pure aluminium (very expensive) sides are about the same value as two octaves more and the bigger casing of the kb. They are worth far more to me. As the lady says "size matters". ;-) Paul ----------------------------------------------------- Paul Nagle / SoftRoom / HeadShock / FFS softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk headshock@redhotant.com http://www.headshock.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-3490-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 09:34:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:45:47 -0500 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: OS 4.0 is gonna kick ass. To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! Your are right! I can't believe we am foolish enough to question Access, or Christoph. BTW: I'm drunk people! I should not be replying to email when I am high. Whups... BTW2: It's a good thing that I am a really nice drunk :-) Rick X-From_: access-list-return-3491-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 09:36:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:47:28 -0500 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Surrounded. To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Oh my. This is sure to be the shit. Think DVD autio. 24/96 in surround sound. I can not believe this team. They kick your mama's ass... Rick X-From_: access-list-return-3492-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 09:39:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:50:02 -0500 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Occasional Stuck Notes? What the hell. That's the least of your worries.You should be thinking about how you are going to harness all the power of this lovely beast... Rick >- 21 - (05:17 PM 05.11.2000) wrote: > >>I quote Keyboard Magazine: >> >>"Cons: Occasional stuck notes while sequencing or stacking sounds." >> >>I don't have my Virus yet.. saving up for the Indigo. But is there any truth >>to that statement from those that own the Virus? Keyboard Mag was using OS 3.0 . > >Keep reading in the review - I'm pretty sure that it says Access was aware of the problem and released (or was due to release) a fix at press time. > > >Mark >_______________________________________________________ |_) _ _||\/| _ _ ._ evolutionary electronica >| \(/_(_|| |(_)(_)| | www.redmoon-music.com > >Blinky Lights at www.midiwall.com mark@midiwall.com >_______________________________________________________ > X-From_: access-list-return-3493-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 09:45:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:56:14 -0500 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: lfo / bpm To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Why? The LFO can sink to a full amount of sub divisions of your midi clock... Rick >what is the correlation between the LFO flashes and the it's actual BPM >I know I can hit the sync button to have on time, but I'd like to know what the BPM timing is from the very slow 001 to incredibly fast 127 ? thanx ~ Andrew X-From_: access-list-return-3494-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 15:36:26 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:46:05 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Oddly enough is right. He means it hinders HIS creative process. He's probably of an age which would indicate he wasn't raised on videogames? I work on a PC upwards of 16 hours a day and my mouse hand is as fast as my thought process. I've been working with soft-sequencers for over 10 years and in fact, I find that anything less than my full pallette of totally visual editing capabilities slows me down. I vote for the monitor as the key discriminator in this challenge! Now can we PLEASE move this discussion to the music-bar? -M@ -----Original Message----- From: Glotox@aol.com [mailto:Glotox@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:21 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Oddly enough one of the most respected synthesist and film composers of underground orchestral ambient doesn't use a PC for sequencing, he says it hinders the creative process (it sounds logical to me). Paul Schutze uses an MC500. Mark II X-From_: access-list-return-3495-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 17:26:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [24.14.215.87] From: "- 21 -" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:36:57 PDT I can't WAIT!!! :) Occasional Stuck Notes? What the hell. That's the least of your worries.You should be thinking about how you are going to harness all the power of this lovely beast... Rick ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3497-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 19:42:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: mpulver@midiwall.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:54:08 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: New Virus B owner Well, I got my Virus B yesterday and put in a couple of hours going through it. I gotta' say, that while I love my Q, Christoph has done some incredible work in this machine. I've been babbling for a while now that the Virus has *the* LP filter of the VA's, and that's very true. But, what's the real key to this box is the saturation. This is were the sound of "that* machine" (the Minimoog) comes from, and Christoph has done a good deal of magic here in being able to capture that edge - and then expand on it. Hat's off to ya' dude! I've been asked by a couple of folks to post up a full babble looking at the Virus B, Nord Modular and Q since I have all three. I'll be working on that over the weekend, and I'll end up posting it up on the RedMoon Music site. More babble when I have more to say! (which for me, could be just seconds from now!) Mark _______________________________________________________ |_) _ _||\/| _ _ ._ evolutionary electronica | \(/_(_|| |(_)(_)| | www.redmoon-music.com Blinky Lights at www.midiwall.com mark@midiwall.com _______________________________________________________ X-From_: access-list-return-3498-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 19:51:30 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:01:48 -0700 Subject: Re: New Virus B owner To: access-list@teklab.com Mark, That would be excellent! I for one have thought about purchasing other VA synths like the Q Rack and Nord Modular. I would be very interested in hearing you compare and contrast them to the Virus. Thanks, Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ----------------------------- I've been asked by a couple of folks to post up a full babble looking at the Virus B, Nord Modular and Q since I have all three. I'll be working on that over the weekend, and I'll end up posting it up on the RedMoon Music site. More babble when I have more to say! (which for me, could be just seconds from now!) Mark _______________________________________________________ |_) _ _||\/| _ _ ._ evolutionary electronica | \(/_(_|| |(_)(_)| | www.redmoon-music.com Blinky Lights at www.midiwall.com mark@midiwall.com _______________________________________________________ X-From_: access-list-return-3499-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 20:07:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:17:26 -0700 (PDT) From: norsez Subject: re: New Virus B owner To: access-list@teklab.com Mark wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been asked by a couple of folks to post up a full babble looking at the Virus B, Nord Modular and Q since I have all three. I'll be working on that over the weekend, and I'll end up posting it up on the RedMoon Music site. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanna let you know, I am another one who will be waiting to read your babble on the Virus b. (I have been a fan of your babble series.) norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3500-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 20:52:36 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: New Virus B owner Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:02:53 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Can I attach studio mounting plates to the bottom of my Virus B without voiding the warranty? It requires either glue against the sheetmetal or drilling into the wood. -Matt X-From_: access-list-return-3501-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 21:03:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "jeremy.whitaker" To: Matt Picone cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: New Virus B owner are you referring to rack ears? the virus won't fit into a 19 inch rack. you'll need to buy the rack ear kit and remove the wood paneling. if you are refering to some kind of surface mount for the bottom, you should be able to remove the rubber feet and attach via screws to something else. As far as I know, Access will not recind your warranty if you open it up to put the rack kit on, so I would imagine the same would apply to anything similar. -j On Fri, 12 May 2000, Matt Picone wrote: >Can I attach studio mounting plates to the bottom of my Virus B without voiding the warranty? It requires either glue against the sheetmetal or drilling into the wood. > >-Matt X-From_: access-list-return-3502-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 21:05:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paddy Ryan Reply-To: "paddyryan@home.com" To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: "Studio Mounting Plates" (was RE: New Virus B owner) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:16:30 -0700 Organization: Big P Productions There is a rack attachment available...basically you remove the whole back/side panel and replace it with another piece. The part also fits Waldorf and Clavia desktop products. I would go that route rather than gluing or drilling anything. Unfortunately this means breaking the "Warranty void if broken" seal, but I would go to court over that one if I had to. You don't have to touch any important parts...just a couple of screws in the casing...they can't expect you to pay an electronics specialist to do that for you! P.S. hope you've got lots of rack space...the cables sticking out the top take up more room than you may think! -----Original Message----- From: Matt Picone [SMTP:matman@mysticworks.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:03 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: New Virus B owner Can I attach studio mounting plates to the bottom of my Virus B without voiding the warranty? It requires either glue against the sheetmetal or drilling into the wood. -MattX-From_: access-list-return-3503-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 21:20:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: New Virus B owner Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:30:14 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal No, these aren't rack ears. I use a custom-made mounting system (think erector set on steroids). This basically FLIES my non rackmount gear (Peavey 1600x, Line6 Pod, etc...) wherever I need it to be with adjustment capability only an allen wrench away. The stuff swivels, angles, tilts, and does every other thing! These things are AWESOME if you've got unique mounting needs (no Beavis jokes please). -Matt -----Original Message----- From: jeremy.whitaker [mailto:syncr@cloudfactory.org] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:16 PM To: Matt Picone Cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: New Virus B owner are you referring to rack ears? the virus won't fit into a 19 inch rack. you'll need to buy the rack ear kit and remove the wood paneling. if you are refering to some kind of surface mount for the bottom, you should be able to remove the rubber feet and attach via screws to something else. As far as I know, Access will not recind your warranty if you open it up to put the rack kit on, so I would imagine the same would apply to anything similar. -j On Fri, 12 May 2000, Matt Picone wrote: >Can I attach studio mounting plates to the bottom of my Virus B without voiding the warranty? It requires either glue against the sheetmetal or drilling into the wood. > >-Matt > X-From_: access-list-return-3504-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 22:15:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:23:20 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: RE: New Virus B owner At 03:30 PM 05/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: This basically FLIES my non rackmount gear (Peavey 1600x, Line6 Pod, etc...) wherever I need it to be with adjustment capability only an allen wrench away. The stuff swivels, angles, tilts, and does every other thing! These things are AWESOME if you've got unique mounting needs (no Beavis jokes please). -Matt I have unique mounting needs for my PC1600x and Access Virus, too. Pictures and designs please! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html X-From_: access-list-return-3505-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 22:48:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: s-cappiello@pop.ski.mskcc.org Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:03:57 -0400 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Steven James Subject: recent mail archives / new Virus owner Dear List, I'm trying to catch up on the list threads, and I see that the archives go to January... Is there any way to get an archived copy of the list since then? thanks. oh... is there any gossip of when we might see OS 4.0 ?? I can't wait! best wishes, StevenX-From_: access-list-return-3507-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 23:53:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:05:39 +0200 From: Michael Lauer Reply-To: Michael Lauer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Virus B owner >Well, I got my Virus B yesterday and put in a couple of hours going through it. Welcome on board - Nord Modular & Q pioneer! Nice to have you on this list, too. :-) -- Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de --------------------------------------------------------- How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?X-From_: access-list-return-3508-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 00:20:35 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 18:27:49 EDT Subject: Re: New Virus B owner To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/12/00 12:53:30 PM, mark@midiwall.com writes: >Well, I got my Virus B yesterday and put in a couple of hours going through it. Gear Slut!!!!!!!! LOL, welcome to the club. It is because the Virus B is so incredible that I still haven't felt a major need to purchase a Q (yet!). -Marshall btw- congrats on your new Redmoon project, are those pterodactyls in the foreground?X-From_: access-list-return-3509-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 00:47:56 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: mpulver@midiwall.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 18:03:36 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: New Virus B owner Marzzz@aol.com (05:27 PM 05.12.2000) wrote: >In a message dated 5/12/00 12:53:30 PM, mark@midiwall.com writes: > >>Well, I got my Virus B yesterday and put in a couple of hours going through it. > >Gear Slut!!!!!!!! Yeup Sir - That Be Me! (actually, I'm getting better - but if Roland would get off their butt and ship the HPD-15 I'd have one more new toy in my lap!) >LOL, welcome to the club. It is because the Virus B is so incredible that I still haven't felt a major need to purchase a Q (yet!). Oh, you will. Not to pre-babble about things, but there's plenty of reasons to own both. :) >btw- congrats on your new Redmoon project, are those pterodactyls in the foreground? Ahhh, someone's been surfing! :) Let me point out to you my friend, that those two birds are of different species! One is in fact a Pterodactyl, but the other is a Dimorphodon. Now, I (and Amanda!) will put it to the reader to work through whom is represented my which - and why. :) Thanks for the well-wishes! We're tryin'! Mark _______________________________________________________ |_) _ _||\/| _ _ ._ evolutionary electronica | \(/_(_|| |(_)(_)| | www.redmoon-music.com Blinky Lights at www.midiwall.com mark@midiwall.com _______________________________________________________ X-From_: access-list-return-3510-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 01:21:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: OT: Humor Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 19:31:26 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal The so-called 'bony crest on that Pterosaur to the right marks it as a Pteranodon, - a late cretaceous Pteradactyloid, but NOT 'pteradactlus' ... the other animal, judging by the flare at the end of its tail and short snout, is an anachronistic Ramphorincus! Relevancy? Some scientists speculate that a VIRUS and not a comet wiped out the dinosaurs! --Matt -----Original Message----- From: Mark Pulver [mailto:mark@midiwall.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:04 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Virus B owner Let me point out to you my friend, that those two birds are of different species! One is in fact a Pterodactyl, but the other is a Dimorphodon. Mark _______________________________________________________ |_) _ _||\/| _ _ ._ evolutionary electronica | \(/_(_|| |(_)(_)| | www.redmoon-music.com Blinky Lights at www.midiwall.com mark@midiwall.com _______________________________________________________ X-From_: access-list-return-3511-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 03:09:36 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: Virus Mounting Item Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:19:54 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Several of you have inquired here or privately about the mounting kit I described. I just did this graphic in corel so you can see what it looks like and how I'll use one with my Access Virus. www.mysticworks.com/images/mount.gif These things are S T R O N G !!! The weakest link will be the material of your desktop: make sure it's real hardwood and not fiberboard if you want to put anything more than 10 Lbs on one of these at an angle. (I actually replaced most of the parts of my crap almost-cardboard OmniRax stuff with REAL wood). Now, where to get these is another matter. I buy them at a flea market from an old guy named Glenn. He sells them as 'Dashboard Mounts' for radio gear and even police laptops. If any of you really wanted some, I'd be willing to pack and ship 'em. The next flea market isn't for a few weeks though. Figuring out how to use them in your scenario would be a creative process: I'm lucky as my family owns a cabinetry shop, so I have custom shelves and cradles built for all this kind of stuff. -Matt -----Original Message----- From: Jay Vaughan [mailto:jay@teklab.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:23 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: New Virus B owner At 03:30 PM 05/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: >This basically FLIES my non rackmount gear (Peavey 1600x, Line6 Pod, etc...) >wherever I need it to be with adjustment capability only an allen wrench away. The stuff swivels, angles, tilts, and does every other thing! These things are AWESOME if you've got unique mounting needs (no Beavis jokes please). > >-Matt I have unique mounting needs for my PC1600x and Access Virus, too. Pictures and designs please! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html X-From_: access-list-return-3562-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 23:02:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "chris mendoza" To: Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:24:40 -0400 X-Priority: 3 > >Hardware sequencers are extremely tempting because of their simplicity (i.e. no driver problems and hardware incompatibilities), but they lack so many features compared to a full featured software sequencer that, especially given their price (very high), they just don't make a lot of sense. Point taken, but you forget that hardware sequencers are very important if you are going to play live. sure, PC have all the gimmiks, but they lack two things: ease of use/hands on use, a but maybe more important, STABILITY. ive been on a stage with a computer, not an experience i want to relive. i use an MPC2000 (not xl), very stable, very simple and intuitive. and very good on the stage. c X-From_: access-list-return-3513-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 03:15:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:25:47 EDT Subject: Re: New Virus B owner To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/12/00 5:59:30 PM, mark@midiwall.com writes: >>btw- congrats on your new Redmoon project, are those pterodactyls in the >>foreground? > >Ahhh, someone's been surfing! :) >Let me point out to you my friend, that those two birds are of different species! One is in fact a Pterodactyl, but the other is a Dimorphodon. Dimorphodon? I think you are supposed to take 1-2 of those by mouth every 4-6 hours for pain........right? -MarshallX-From_: access-list-return-3514-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 03:18:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:29:09 EDT Subject: Re: RE: Hardware Sequencers for Virus To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/12/00 1:47:16 PM, matman@mysticworks.com writes: >He's probably of an age which would indicate he wasn't raised on videogames? Thats correct, he doesn't write video game music_ only serious music. >I work on a PC upwards of 16 hours a day and my mouse hand is as fast as my thought process. But can you use your mouse with both brains at the same time? Murk aka: MarkX-From_: access-list-return-3516-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 04:10:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Virus Mounting Item Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 19:21:21 -0700 X-Priority: 3 That is pretty impressive drawing you whipped up for the list... and nice way to mount your virus so it is extended over you controler. Most impressive. If I was upgrading to the VirusB instead of keyboard I'd get it. Thanks for the link and the work Matt, James kintama@jps.net -----Original Message----- From: Matt Picone To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 6:21 PM Subject: Virus Mounting Item >Several of you have inquired here or privately about the mounting kit I described. I just did this graphic in corel so you can see what it looks like and how I'll use one with my Access Virus. > >www.mysticworks.com/images/mount.gif > >These things are S T R O N G !!! The weakest link will be the material of your desktop: make sure it's real hardwood and not fiberboard if you want to put anything more than 10 Lbs on one of these at an angle. (I actually replaced most of the parts of my crap almost-cardboard OmniRax stuff with REAL wood). > >Now, where to get these is another matter. I buy them at a flea market from >an old guy named Glenn. He sells them as 'Dashboard Mounts' for radio gear and even police laptops. > >If any of you really wanted some, I'd be willing to pack and ship 'em. The next flea market isn't for a few weeks though. > >Figuring out how to use them in your scenario would be a creative process: I'm lucky as my family owns a cabinetry shop, so I have custom shelves and cradles built for all this kind of stuff. > >-Matt > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jay Vaughan [mailto:jay@teklab.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:23 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: RE: New Virus B owner > > >At 03:30 PM 05/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >>This basically FLIES my non rackmount gear (Peavey 1600x, Line6 Pod, >etc...) >>wherever I need it to be with adjustment capability only an allen wrench away. The stuff swivels, angles, tilts, and does every other thing! These things are AWESOME if you've got unique mounting needs (no Beavis jokes please). >> >>-Matt > > >I have unique mounting needs for my PC1600x and Access Virus, too. Pictures and designs please! > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} >[NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html > > > X-From_: access-list-return-3515-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 04:04:26 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:23:48 -0400 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net X-Accept-Language: en To: Korg Prophecy Synth mailing-list , access virus Subject: galaxy users? i was looking at the opcode site for galaxy updates and support. they dont show the product at all. does anyone have any info about this product.? i can seem to get it to work with my virus or z1.. a little tutorial would be very helpful if anyone has the time.X-From_: access-list-return-3517-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 04:17:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:27:32 EDT Subject: Re: galaxy users? To: access-list@teklab.com, luxx@gru.net In a message dated 5/13/00 2:16:10 AM, luxx@gru.net writes: >does anyone have any info about this product.? i can seem to get it to work with my virus or z1.. I sometimes use Galaxy but even before Opcode was purchased by gibson the program was sort of given the 68 by the programers; I have manuals and they are old I don't think Opcode ever made modules for the Virusb or Z1 but if I find a PDF file on the latest OS I will mail it to you if you like. Regarding the issue on sequencers I can work with either hardware or software I just thought that if this guy can make such great music with an MC500 he must be really good. I personally rather work on my Mac. Mark PS: I'm sorry for being off topic but I am not allowed into the musicbar, I am under age and have addictive personality!X-From_: access-list-return-3518-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 05:00:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 20:12:56 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag At 01:12 PM 5/12/00 EDT, you wrote: Page 90, at the end of the review: [Ed. Note: As we went to press, Access Music announced an operating system update for the Virus B and kb that included a bug fix for the sticking notes that Zon experienced while reviewing the kb. This update is free and available for download at www.access-music.de.] >This hanging note only appeared when extensively using sounds with UNISON 3 and higher. This was fixed even before the review was written. But they didn't care. > >-Christoph > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-3519-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 05:13:19 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 20:26:02 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: OT: Virus Mounting Item >If any of you really wanted some, I'd be willing to pack and ship 'em. The next flea market isn't for a few weeks though. How much do they cost? cam ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-3520-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 05:23:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Virus Mounting Item Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:33:43 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal $10 includes: 1 Base 1 long arm 1 short arm 1 termination with triangle mounting plate and center screw 1 allen wrench 1 piece I can't figure out (extra arm or something?) The top plate with 14 holes in it is $2.50 extra. I can probably only get about 20 or so in all before June 1st (and I may need some for myself!). Next time I see him, I'll try to get a phone number or email address or something like that. -Matt >-----Original Message----- >From: Cam [mailto:clockwork@bvl.net] >Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:26 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: OT: Virus Mounting Item > > >>If any of you really wanted some, I'd be willing to pack and >ship 'em. The >>next flea market isn't for a few weeks though. > >How much do they cost? > >cam > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at >http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 >join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to >=:-|= > > X-From_: access-list-return-3521-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 05:50:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:09:42 -0400 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Mounting Item just so u all know that the rack mount hardware for the virus that is for sale via music stores runs thirty bucks.. so this seems like a dealX-From_: access-list-return-3522-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 05:51:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:11:21 -0400 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net X-Accept-Language: en To: Korg Prophecy Synth mailing-list , access virus Subject: librarian? is there a mac based librarian that anyone is using to dump sounds back and forth? cubase crashes every time i try do do dumpsX-From_: access-list-return-3523-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 05:53:12 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:12:16 -0400 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Mounting Item luxx wrote: >just so u all know that the rack mount hardware for the virus that is for sale via music stores runs thirty bucks.. >so this 10$ kit from matt seems like a dealX-From_: access-list-return-3524-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 06:05:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: "access-list" Subject: 3.0 Manual Addendum... Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:15:59 -0700 X-Priority: 3 In anticipation of my Kb coming in, I downloaded the 3.0 Addendum and I have to say nice job again to who ever wrote it. Reminds me of the first 30 pages of the real manual... Its not a tutorial like that, but the tone is "welcome to your new tool/toy, lets get you up to speed with your new purchase (or upgrade)", sorta feel to it. I'm still going through it yet, but just had to share the magic. James kintama@jps.net I sold my controller for my Virus A, so my "A" is sitting here all quiet and sad... Monday it is going to sold to a friend... and then I sit here quiet and sad.... it I get my hands on the Kb !!! :-) X-From_: access-list-return-3525-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 06:15:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:23:57 -0700 From: Dan The Burke Subject: Re: librarian? To: access-list@teklab.com, luxx@gru.net, Korg Prophecy Synth mailing-list X-Priority: 3 Hi there... I've uploaded a new Virus-based tune if anyone wants to check it out. ;) WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN 'Reasons' and 'Pretend We're Civilized' are both firmly Virus B based. Feedback is welcome. Thanks! Dan WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN X-From_: access-list-return-3526-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 08:58:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 02:09:51 -0500 From: dg Subject: Re: Virus creation or evolution? To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Ok I have been hanging around electronic stuff way too long as I read the sentence below and saw the word "led" and pronounced it L-E-D in my mind while reading it. Just a thought that no one probably cares about, although it made a whole lot more sense the second time I read it :) dg ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:04 AM Subject: Virus creation or evolution? >I was discussing with a friend on the characteristics of the green monkey and >this led me on the path of thinking about the Virus and if it was modeled or >was created. >And all of the upgrades to it's OS makes it a candidate for an evolved instrument. > >The question is (ostensibly being a machine) is it both? A creation that has evolved? > > > >Mark X-From_: access-list-return-3527-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 10:08:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 04:18:56 EDT Subject: Re: librarian? To: access-list@teklab.com, luxx@gru.net In a message dated 5/13/00 4:03:27 AM, luxx@gru.net writes: >is there a mac based librarian that anyone is using to dump sounds back and forth? Emagic SounDiver. Mark IIX-From_: access-list-return-3528-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 10:21:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: Synthworld@aol.com Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:29:25 +0100 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Fri, 12 May 2000 13:12:31 EDT, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >This hanging note only appeared when extensively using sounds with UNISON 3 and higher. This was fixed even before the review was written. But they didn't care. Hmm, I know and respect Zon so I asked him about this. Here is his reply/clarification: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Virus users :-) Regardless of the specific cause of the stuck notes that I encountered while playing, sequencing and programming sounds on the Virus kb for the May 2000 Keyboard Magazine report -- the simple fact that I did encounter them during normal use is why they are in the review. I sequenced -- notes stuck -- I reported it. I stacked sounds in Multi-mode -- played with these Multis -- notes stuck -- I reported it. Not accurately reporting how an instrument performs during the review process would be a disservice to the readers of these reviews. As for the accusation that Keyboard didn't care that this bug was fixed, I should point you to the very last paragraph of the review (pg. 90) that stated that a free update that fixed this problem was available for download at the Access website. So, I really don't understand Christoph's statement here. It is also useful to point out that, overall, the Keyboard Report was very favorable. It is a beautiful and powerful synthesizer. Only two cons were mentioned (and Christoph says that one of these has been fixed). And, I am glad to see that Virus OS 4.0 is going to incorporate a programmable arpeggiator -- so that will take care of the other con. The Bottom Line of the report says it all: 'Playing this synth is as gratifying as it gets.' Synthcerely, Zon Vern Pyles (Synthworld@aol.com) --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music Email: softroom@btinternet.com Web: www.softroom.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-3506-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri May 12 23:26:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 05:42:44 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, mpulver@midiwall.com Subject: Re: New Virus B owner Welcome to the club Marko play with unison mode/detune, brings back memories of my Jupiter 6 : ) weld Mark Pulver wrote: >Well, I got my Virus B yesterday and put in a couple of hours going through it. > >I gotta' say, that while I love my Q, Christoph has done some incredible work in this machine. I've been babbling for a while now that the Virus has *the* LP filter of the VA's, and that's very true. > >But, what's the real key to this box is the saturation. This is were the sound of "that* machine" (the Minimoog) comes from, and Christoph has done a good deal of magic here in being able to capture that edge - and then expand on it. > >Hat's off to ya' dude! > >I've been asked by a couple of folks to post up a full babble looking at the Virus B, Nord Modular and Q since I have all three. I'll be working on that over the weekend, and I'll end up posting it up on the RedMoon Music site. > >More babble when I have more to say! (which for me, could be just seconds from now!) > >Mark >_______________________________________________________ |_) _ _||\/| _ _ ._ evolutionary electronica >| \(/_(_|| |(_)(_)| | www.redmoon-music.com > >Blinky Lights at www.midiwall.com mark@midiwall.com >_______________________________________________________X-From_: access-list-return-3512-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 03:13:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:30:01 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Mounting Item youve got to love this list......... : ) this is a perfect idea for a freind of mine designing a set for a famous synth bands summer tour Thx Weld Matt Picone wrote: >Several of you have inquired here or privately about the mounting kit I described. I just did this graphic in corel so you can see what it looks like and how I'll use one with my Access Virus. > >www.mysticworks.com/images/mount.gif > >These things are S T R O N G !!! The weakest link will be the material of your desktop: make sure it's real hardwood and not fiberboard if you want to put anything more than 10 Lbs on one of these at an angle. (I actually replaced most of the parts of my crap almost-cardboard OmniRax stuff with REAL wood). > >Now, where to get these is another matter. I buy them at a flea market from an old guy named Glenn. He sells them as 'Dashboard Mounts' for radio gear and even police laptops. > >If any of you really wanted some, I'd be willing to pack and ship 'em. The next flea market isn't for a few weeks though. > >Figuring out how to use them in your scenario would be a creative process: I'm lucky as my family owns a cabinetry shop, so I have custom shelves and cradles built for all this kind of stuff. > >-Matt > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jay Vaughan [mailto:jay@teklab.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:23 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: RE: New Virus B owner > >At 03:30 PM 05/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >>This basically FLIES my non rackmount gear (Peavey 1600x, Line6 Pod, >etc...) >>wherever I need it to be with adjustment capability only an allen wrench away. The stuff swivels, angles, tilts, and does every other thing! These things are AWESOME if you've got unique mounting needs (no Beavis jokes please). >> >>-Matt > >I have unique mounting needs for my PC1600x and Access Virus, too. Pictures and designs please! > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} >[NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.htmlX-From_: access-list-return-3530-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 15:40:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 06:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: norsez Subject: re:MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag To: access-list@teklab.com Christoph wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW: OS 4.0 will bring a large number of arpeggiator patterns. But they will not be freely programmable as in the Waldorf Q etc. So I guess the second con will stay :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love the arpeggiator programmable, but since the Virus doesn't have big LCD, I think programming would turn out a new con anyway. (And that I speak for those who don't use computer as much as I do.) Cheer up!!! norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/X-From_: access-list-return-3531-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 17:43:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: Virus Bug? Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:54:20 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Does anyone else find that the function of the MIDI Clock Recieve to OFF doesn't stick after a Power Down? The value shows OFF, but unless I change it to AUTO and back to OFF it doesn't accept DEFINABLE1 tempo changes. -M@ X-From_: access-list-return-3532-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 17:50:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: Arpeggiator Con Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 12:01:35 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal What would be useful, is if notes that were repeated in an AS PLAYED arpeggio could be used more than once in a different sequence. For example, playing C-Eb-F-F#-Eb-G will loop only as a 4 note pattern, based on the last instance of a note's entry into the chain (so C-F-F#-Eb-G would be heard). This is a feature which I remember from actual use- a sequencer on the fly as it were. -M@ >-----Original Message----- >From: norsez [mailto:norsez@yahoo.com] >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 9:51 AM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: re:MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag > > > >Christoph wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >BTW: OS 4.0 will bring a large number of arpeggiator patterns. But they will >not be freely programmable as in the Waldorf Q etc. So I guess the second con >will stay :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >I'd love the arpeggiator programmable, but since the Virus doesn't have big LCD, I think programming would turn out a new con anyway. (And that I speak for those who don't use computer as much as I do.) Cheer up!!! > >norsez > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ > X-From_: access-list-return-3533-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 17:54:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 12:15:08 -0400 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: librarian? is there an emagic sound diver for mac?X-From_: access-list-return-3534-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 18:04:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: , Subject: RE: librarian? Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 12:15:20 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Yes but don't buy it until Version 3 is released later this month! >-----Original Message----- >From: luxx [mailto:luxx@gru.net] >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 12:15 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: librarian? > > >is there an emagic sound diver for mac? > > X-From_: access-list-return-3535-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 18:22:59 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:34:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 -----Original Message----- From: CKe9644719@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com ; Synthworld@aol.com Date: Saturday, May 13, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag >BTW: OS 4.0 will bring a large number of arpeggiator patterns. But they will >not be freely programmable as in the Waldorf Q etc. So I guess the second con >will stay :-( > > >Christoph Kemper >access music > > Hi Christoph, think 'baby steps'. Sure we ultimately want to program our own arpeggiations and share them like patches... but just getting more apreggiator hard coded options will be GREAT until then. Maybe the next step on it could be 16 slots that the user can load them into but the programming is done by developers and put up on your web page. So we can have a base set of say 32 hard coded ones, and this other set of 16 that we can swap out. Just some thoughts. I'm sure you guys are way beyond trying to figure out how to make it all work, and you already have your plan of attack. But thought I'd mention it anyway. I'm just glad we get more arp options in OS 4.0 !!! James kintama@jps.net PS since I've sold my Virus A, and have the Kb on the way, I'll only have a few days to play with 3.0 before 4.0 comes out.... So I effectively get an upgrade that jumps up 2 steps all at once. Damn this is gonna be sweet !!! X-From_: access-list-return-3537-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 19:15:30 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:26:08 EDT Subject: Re: galaxy users? To: access-list@teklab.com, luxx@gru.net In a message dated 5/12/00 9:15:43 PM, luxx@gru.net writes: >i was looking at the opcode site for galaxy updates and support. >they dont show the product at all. >does anyone have any info about this product.? i can seem to get it to work with my virus or z1.. > Dead product. I strongly advise switching to EMagic's Sound Diver. Opcode stopped supporting Galaxy about 2-3 years ago (though they still sell it/give it away), and now Opcode is dormant thanks to Gibson. -MarshallX-From_: access-list-return-3538-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 19:16:39 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: recent mail archives / new Virus owner Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:26:14 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cristoph Is there an official registry of feature requests? -Matt Picone X-From_: access-list-return-3536-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 18:27:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 17:43:10 +0000 From: Ez Organization: ? X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: recent mail archives / new Virus owner Canines Site http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus You can search or download the archives there. Ez Steven James wrote: >Dear List, > >I'm trying to catch up on the list threads, and I see that the archives go to January... > >Is there any way to get an archived copy of the list since then? > >thanks. > >oh... is there any gossip of when we might see OS 4.0 ?? I can't wait! > >best wishes, >StevenX-From_: access-list-return-3540-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 19:30:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:51:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefano Bartoloni To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus A hi guys i'm playing with my VirusA i got it yesterday. it seems me really amazing! any suggestion on new sounds ?/ sites for virus with patches , tip & tricks , new OS etc? i have OS 2.52 w/ VOCODER now . let me know if there are any kewl sounds to download in the net really thanx regards SteX-From_: access-list-return-3541-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 19:43:37 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [24.14.215.87] From: "- 21 -" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: [virus] Access History? Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 10:54:21 PDT No, not Access IS history, but what IS Access' company history? Anywhere on the web I can find out? You know, like how it started? How long it's been around? What other products? Who is Christoph Kemper? Etc.. I'd love to get to know a little about my future family. :) eric/future virus owner ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3542-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 21:34:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [38.29.109.141] From: "Robert Tygers" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:43:51 GMT I have got the information about the con by word of mouth, while the paragraph about that con was not reported. My assumption was too fast; I should have read the facts first, before going to the public. Well, in fairness the con is reported in a big box right at the head of the article, whereas the bug fix is buried in a footnote at the very end. Anyone skimming through the magazine is going to see the former and not the latter. I think reporting the bug as a flaw in the Virus would have had more relevance if Access didn't have such a solid history of fixing bugs as soon as they were identified. Sorry, Paul, I have both Keyboard reviews of the Virus and I don't think either of them is as well done as the ones you wrote. BTW: OS 4.0 will bring a large number of arpeggiator patterns. But they will not be freely programmable as in the Waldorf Q etc. So I guess the second con will stay :-( I wouldn't sweat it. The Virus doesn't have things like Roland's RPS, the Q's step sequencer, or the Rave-O-lution's drum patterns either, and I don't consider that a flaw. I'd personally rather have the best *synth* possible and get my programmable sequence needs handled by something designed specifically for that purpose (in my case I use Max). But then, I'm one of the odd birds who considered the step sequencer on the Q a con rather than a pro - I don't want to pay for something I don't need and will never use. And Norsez has an excellent point about the programming of arp patterns being, well, painful on a small LCD. One of the reasons I stayed away from the Audity 2000. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3544-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 22:42:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:53:19 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Indigo I'm in complete gear-lust after the Indigo. Is there any new information on price and availability in the US? Last I heard they were predicting a couple of months after Musik Messe. The Indigo would be the perfect addition to a live synth rig I'm assembling . Thanks, Chris _________________________________________________________ The optimist sees a glass half full... | Chris Muir The pessimist sees a glass half empty... | cbm@well.com The realist sees a glass twice as big as it needs to be. X-From_: access-list-return-3545-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 23:57:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [general] Re: MS2000 Virus Keyboard Mag Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 23:06:10 +0100 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Sat, 13 May 2000 19:43:51 GMT, "Robert Tygers" wrote: >Sorry, Paul, I have both Keyboard reviews of the Virus and I don't think either of them is as well done as the ones you wrote. Awww, shucks. Well, I *did* buy my Virus after the review was over... ;-) Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music Email: softroom@btinternet.com Web: www.softroom.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-3546-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 01:57:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [195.95.26.9] From: "jeroen él" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Pulse Width? Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:07:35 CEST From: "Matt Picone" Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: Subject: Pulse Width? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:30:31 -0400 Virusians: Can someone remind me what full range sweeps of the pulse width knob do on an analog synth? If my memory servers me correctly, doesn't it usually result in something different than the silence we get at 127 with the virus? I thought that one of my old synths used to get thinner until the fundamental was gone, leaving the perception that the pitch had crossfaded up an octave. Then again, maybe my 'Dead at 127' is an anomoly? Thanks, -Matt Hey there, i got the same result as you absolute silence and i think that my old sh09 went kind of crazy with full pulse width. But 126 or 127 who cares, i've been infected and refuse any medical treatment. Tous et lele pu ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3547-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 02:05:06 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [195.95.26.9] From: "jeroen él" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MIDI out? Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:15:42 CEST From: Zack Steinkamp Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MIDI out? Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:48:34 -0700 unfortunately not. it would be cool, although I'd worry about the amount of MIDI bandwidth required to transmit 3 fast-moving LFO data streams. this is something that will probably appear with a new, high-speed midi spec. Anyone know what's up with MIDI 2.0 (or whatever it's called)? -zs On 00-05-11 23:23, Matt Picone wrote: >Virusians: > >When I use LFO1 with an assignment, is the MIDI CC data that corresponds to changes in that parameter sent via MIDI out? I'd love to use the Virus LFOs to control various functions in my guitar rig in sync with the Virus internal clock. > >If not, I'll add it to my list of feature requests! > >--Matt Hey there, why don't you connect youre guitar fx to the midi-chain, that way when ever you control your lfo with clock youre guitar fx will follow if they are capable of resieving that data. Hope they do. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3549-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 02:43:41 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Knownodus@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 20:53:55 EDT Subject: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 To: access-list@teklab.com I am trying to decide which of these synths to buy...of course this list is a bit biased but I'm sure there are opinions regardless. I think, in terms of expressiveness of sounds, I'm more into the Nord flavor...but the Indigo has more multi-parts, polyphony and i wonder if it has more filters or effects as well?X-From_: access-list-return-3551-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 03:15:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: MIDI out? Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:26:39 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal There are no Guitar MULTI-FX (as opposed to dedicated delays/trems)racks that I know of which sync to MIDI clock. I'm hoping that at least someday the option to have, say OSC3 spill its guts as CC data out the MIDI port will be realized (OSC3->MIDI out [Yes/No]). I can think of a bazillion applications besides simulating midi time for devices which don't understand it. 1. Controlling sweep or other params on synths with weak LFO or panel controls. 2. Driving lights/video in sync to the virus 3. Adjusting external parameters on a MIDI controlled mixer (for POST virus sync'd panning, for example) etc... etc... etc... >-----Original Message----- >From: jeroen Žl [mailto:dubwize3@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 10:16 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: MIDI out? > > > > > >>From: Zack Steinkamp Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: MIDI out? >>Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:48:34 -0700 >> >>unfortunately not. >> >>it would be cool, although I'd worry about the amount of MIDI bandwidth required to transmit 3 fast-moving LFO data streams. >> >>this is something that will probably appear with a new, high-speed midi spec. >> >>Anyone know what's up with MIDI 2.0 (or whatever it's called)? >> >>-zs >> >>On 00-05-11 23:23, Matt Picone wrote: >>>Virusians: >>> >>>When I use LFO1 with an assignment, is the MIDI CC data >that corresponds >>to >>>changes in that parameter sent via MIDI out? I'd love to >use the Virus >>LFOs >>>to control various functions in my guitar rig in sync with >the Virus >>>internal clock. >>> >>>If not, I'll add it to my list of feature requests! >>> >>>--Matt > >Hey there, why don't you connect youre guitar fx to the midi-chain, that way when ever you control your lfo with clock youre guitar fx will follow if they are capable of resieving that data. Hope they do. > >_______________________________________________________________ _________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3552-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 03:38:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Knownodus@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:46:36 EDT Subject: Re: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 5/13/00 6:01:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bigw@onbuffalo.com writes: >alot of poeple on this list have both. they are 2 different beasts for sure , >best thing you can do is go hear both the the nord 2 and Virus b for now and >see >which you like the best. >weld Which has more sounds? I know the editing capabilities of synthesis of a decent synthesizer make an infinite number of sounds available but...the Nord has additional sound cards, which I believe each hold a few hundred sounds, will the indigo have anything of this sort?X-From_: access-list-return-3553-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 03:44:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: fixup-access-list@teklab.com@fixme From: "Justin Grimley" To: Subject: Broken Virus Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:05:57 -0700 X-Priority: 3 I think it's broken!!!! I can't get any sound out of Out1 L&R. Directing sounds to Out2 L&R works fine. I've tried using other inputs on my mixer that I know work, other cables etc ... can't even get the demo tune to play ... tried reset. It was woking fine and then suddenly .. silence!! Anyone got any ideas before I send my baby back to Access. Justin.X-From_: access-list-return-3554-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 05:31:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: bhook@verant.com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 20:37:34 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Brian Hook Subject: Re: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 Since neither is available, it's pretty much impossible to give a subjective comparison. So failing that, you can analyze the objective manufacturer specs. Check out the Access and Clavia Web sites for spec lists and make your decision based on those -- however I would recommend waiting until they are both released to make any final judgement. Brian At 08:53 PM 5/13/00 -0400, you wrote: I am trying to decide which of these synths to buy...of course this list is a bit biased but I'm sure there are opinions regardless. I think, in terms of expressiveness of sounds, I'm more into the Nord flavor...but the Indigo has more multi-parts, polyphony and i wonder if it has more filters or effects as well? X-From_: access-list-return-3555-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 06:06:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 00:16:19 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Buy both and promise yourself you'll sell one or bring it back to the store. The small amount you'll lose on such an in-demand item in a resale is well worth having the time and luxury of REALLY settling into the depths of experiencing both units at home in your own environment. You couldn't pay a consultant or buy a review that would give you any better opinion than your own. Can't afford it? Go through a shop which does instant financing and gives you 30 days to try out the gear. If you do this its also important to pay off the balance during the 30,60, or 90 day grace period or you'll get slammed with near loanshark interest rates (typically 24 3/4 % and UP!!!). Finally, if you MUST make a decision, be sure to match the specs to your usage needs; more of anything isn't always necessarily a good thing if it's not what you need. -M@ >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Hook [mailto:bhook@verant.com] Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 11:38 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 > > >Since neither is available, it's pretty much impossible to give a subjective comparison. So failing that, you can analyze the objective manufacturer specs. Check out the Access and Clavia Web sites for spec >lists and make your decision based on those -- however I would recommend >waiting until they are both released to make any final judgement. > >Brian > >At 08:53 PM 5/13/00 -0400, you wrote: >>I am trying to decide which of these synths to buy...of >course this list is a >>bit biased but I'm sure there are opinions regardless. I >think, in terms of >>expressiveness of sounds, I'm more into the Nord flavor...but >the Indigo has >>more multi-parts, polyphony and i wonder if it has more >filters or effects as >>well? > > X-From_: bigw@onbuffalo.com Sat May 13 19:20:17 2000 Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:38:10 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: recent mail archives / new Virus owner FYI: any mailing lists questions can be addressed to Canine or Jay. Let Chrsitoph finish 4.0! : ) jay@teklab.com canine@muenster.de weld Matt Picone wrote: >Cristoph > >Is there an official registry of feature requests? > >-Matt PiconeX-From_: access-list-return-3539-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 19:21:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:38:10 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com, "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: recent mail archives / new Virus owner FYI: any mailing lists questions can be addressed to Canine or Jay. Let Chrsitoph finish 4.0! : ) jay@teklab.com canine@muenster.de weld Matt Picone wrote: >Cristoph > >Is there an official registry of feature requests? > >-Matt PiconeX-From_: access-list-return-3543-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat May 13 22:39:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 04:55:56 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [virus] Access History? http://www.access-music.de/pages/index2.html weld - 21 - wrote: >No, not Access IS history, but what IS Access' company history? Anywhere on the web I can find out? You know, like how it started? How long it's been around? What other products? Who is Christoph Kemper? Etc.. I'd love to get to know a little about my future family. :) > >eric/future virus owner > >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.comX-From_: access-list-return-3556-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 11:40:13 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [38.29.109.125] From: "Robert Tygers" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: MIDI out? Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 09:51:00 GMT OSC3 does not generate control data of any kind, so I'm assuming you mean LFO3. Check out Max (www.cycling74.com) or something equivalent (like the environments in Logic perhaps). These programs are specifically designed for this sort of thing. There are no Guitar MULTI-FX (as opposed to dedicated delays/trems)racks that I know of which sync to MIDI clock. I'm hoping that at least someday the option to have, say OSC3 spill its guts as CC data out the MIDI port will be realized (OSC3->MIDI out [Yes/No]). I can think of a bazillion applications besides simulating midi time for devices which don't understand it. 1. Controlling sweep or other params on synths with weak LFO or panel controls. 2. Driving lights/video in sync to the virus 3. Adjusting external parameters on a MIDI controlled mixer (for POST virus sync'd panning, for example) etc... etc... etc... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3557-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 12:32:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Knownodus@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 06:43:26 EDT Subject: Re: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 To: access-list@teklab.com Thanks everyone..please excuse me for drifting a bit from the focus as I know that it's been stressing some members out but does anyone know when the Nord 3 will be released? Thanks.X-From_: access-list-return-3548-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 02:11:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:28:33 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: programming question Any recipes for 80's cheese prophet type synth brass many thx weld jeroen Žl wrote: >>From: "Matt Picone" Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >>To: >>Subject: Pulse Width? >>Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:30:31 -0400 >> >>Virusians: >> >>Can someone remind me what full range sweeps of the pulse width knob do on an analog synth? If my memory servers me correctly, doesn't it usually result in something different than the silence we get at 127 with the virus? >> >>I thought that one of my old synths used to get thinner until the fundamental was gone, leaving the perception that the pitch had crossfaded up an octave. >> >>Then again, maybe my 'Dead at 127' is an anomoly? >> >>Thanks, >> >>-Matt >> >Hey there, i got the same result as you absolute silence and i think that my old sh09 went kind of crazy with full pulse width. But 126 or 127 who cares, i've been infected and refuse any medical treatment. >Tous et lele pu > >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3550-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 02:49:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 09:06:35 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 alot of poeple on this list have both. they are 2 different beasts for sure , best thing you can do is go hear both the the nord 2 and Virus b for now and see which you like the best. weld Knownodus@aol.com wrote: >I am trying to decide which of these synths to buy...of course this list is a bit biased but I'm sure there are opinions regardless. I think, in terms of expressiveness of sounds, I'm more into the Nord flavor...but the Indigo has more multi-parts, polyphony and i wonder if it has more filters or effects as well?X-From_: access-list-return-3565-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 00:16:55 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 15:32:19 +0100 From: DTM Reply-To: catron3@slip.net X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: mac sound diver users Currently, it's not the easiest program to use. However, it does a whole lot of stuff, so complexity is easily tolerated. The newer version is supposed to be easier to use and easier on the eyes. Unfortunately, I don't know the functional differences yet. As a librarian, it's fairly easy to use. In all, I love the program and use it to work with a couple walls worth of equipment. For samplers, it's indespensible. However, I'm not so sure you couldn't get by with a simple freeware MIDI sequencer to capture dumps and upload patches when necessary. Sound Diver will make this easier, but it costs money and time (at least initially). It should do everything for the Virus, Z1, and any Kurz. Again for samplers, it's a must (especially the K2k series). Everything can be done individually too. Ciao, Dan luxx wrote: >anyone using a mac and sound diver please give me a brief thunbs up or thumbs down on the pruct and its ease of use.. >i mainly want something to be able to drag and drop midi and sys ex files that i get from the internet into the program ..let it sort them out and then dump them mainly into my z1 and virus. will it save my sample data and program data from the krz? >and can i do it individualy? >i hear there is a new update coming out soon.. does anyone know what the diffrences are going to be? >thanksX-From_: access-list-return-3559-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 17:58:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:11:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dizzy J." X-Sender: dizzyj@monkey.eliteware.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Pulse Width? my guess would be that it was a limitation of the other synths. theoretically a pulse width with a 100% duty cycle is no longer an audible waveform. for a sqare wave (might have this inversed) __|--|__|-- = 50% __|-|__|- = 75% __|__|__ = 99% ________ = 100% -dj >> >>Can someone remind me what full range sweeps of the pulse width knob do on an analog synth? If my memory servers me correctly, doesn't it usually result in something different than the silence we get at 127 with the virus? >> >>I thought that one of my old synths used to get thinner until the fundamental was gone, leaving the perception that the pitch had crossfaded up an octave. >> >>Then again, maybe my 'Dead at 127' is an anomoly? >> >>Thanks, >> >>-Matt >> >Hey there, i got the same result as you absolute silence and i think that my old sh09 went kind of crazy with full pulse width. But 126 or 127 who cares, i've been infected and refuse any medical treatment. >Tous et lele pu > >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-3560-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 18:07:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:21:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dizzy J." X-Sender: dizzyj@monkey.eliteware.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: another infection Greetings, My local music store finally got in another rack virus b. I went to go listen to it again to make sure that was the beast for me and walked out with it :). I paied $50 more than the lowest online price, which consequently was $50 less that what I was willing to buy it for at the store (I dont mind spending a little extra to support small local stores, and after all, I did get to play with it there). I had initailly gone into the store to play with the waldorf q, but while it is a fine machine, it didnt do it for me. I had played with the virus as an aftertough and fell for it immediatly. not only is the sound so warm buttery smooth, even when aggresive and nasty, the interface is so intuative and instant, that I could not see owning it. anyways, guess ill be sticking around on this list for a while (good thing too, seems like a very friendly and helpful group).X-From_: access-list-return-3561-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 18:32:41 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: another infection Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 09:44:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Dizzy J, Aren't you from the K5k egroup list and from Kenji's K5000 site? Or were you here a long while before actually buying your Virus, I seem to remember reading consistently good material from a poster of this name in regards to sound design and I "thought" from the K5k list, but not sure. Welcome aboard by the way. If your familiar with the K5k, you'll like to know that you CAN get "living" pads from the Virus by using the mod matrix, and best of all it doesn't have a metalic sound to it. (not to slam the K5k, I still love it). James kintama@jps.net -----Original Message----- From: Dizzy J. To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Sunday, May 14, 2000 9:18 AM Subject: another infection >Greetings, > >My local music store finally got in another rack virus b. I went to go listen to it again to make sure that was the beast for me and walked out with it :). I paied $50 more than the lowest online price, which consequently was $50 less that what I was willing to buy it for at the store (I dont mind spending a little extra to support small local stores, and after all, I did get to play with it there). > >I had initailly gone into the store to play with the waldorf q, but while it is a fine machine, it didnt do it for me. I had played with the virus as an aftertough and fell for it immediatly. > >not only is the sound so warm buttery smooth, even when aggresive and nasty, the interface is so intuative and instant, that I could not see owning it. > >anyways, guess ill be sticking around on this list for a while (good thing too, seems like a very friendly and helpful group). > > X-From_: access-list-return-3563-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 23:20:58 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 23:32:36 +0200 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus music Hi guys! Here's some more virus music. These are all little snippets (1-1.5 min each) of trax I'm working on at the moment. I've got a digital mixer which at the moment means no single track gets finished...:) Lemme know what you think... http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/gb8_ref.mp3 http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/susp_ref.mp3 http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/qe_ref.mp3 http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/gunnerv23c_ref.mp3 http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/scope_ref.mp3 http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong/elektro_ref.mp3 thanx jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298X-From_: access-list-return-3564-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 23:58:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:17:50 -0400 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net X-Accept-Language: en To: Korg Prophecy Synth mailing-list , access virus , krz list Subject: mac sound diver users anyone using a mac and sound diver please give me a brief thunbs up or thumbs down on the pruct and its ease of use.. i mainly want something to be able to drag and drop midi and sys ex files that i get from the internet into the program ..let it sort them out and then dump them mainly into my z1 and virus. will it save my sample data and program data from the krz? and can i do it individualy? i hear there is a new update coming out soon.. does anyone know what the diffrences are going to be? thanksX-From_: access-list-return-3567-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 00:55:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:41:10 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers for Virus Funny that you should mention him. I just came back from London, where I saw the great sound art exhibition SONIC BOOM (at the Hayward Gallery), he is showing his "Third Site" there. If that is the same person that is...;)) His name should be Paul SchŸtze (with an u-umlaut)..... At 2:20 AM -0400 on 12.05.2000 Glotox@aol.com wrote: Oddly enough one of the most respected synthesist and film composers of underground orchestral ambient doesn't use a PC for sequencing, he says it hinders the creative process (it sounds logical to me). Paul Schutze uses an MC500. -- think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-3566-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 00:50:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Lohengrin To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: tunnel germany X-Sender-Ip: 24.95.199.130 An intersting site was given to me by a friend long ago... tunnel.de it is a club, record label, store, and probably a whole lot more. sounds like a pretty great idea to me. Often northern europe starts something and america follows. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeispX-From_: access-list-return-3558-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun May 14 14:41:27 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:58:23 -0400 From: bigw To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Indigo and Nord Lead 3 you can certinly get a idea on which sound you liek best by hearing the nord2. and the virus b. the nord 3 is SCHEDULED for release later this summer. Weld Knownodus@aol.com wrote: >Thanks everyone..please excuse me for drifting a bit from the focus as I know that it's been stressing some members out but does anyone know when the Nord 3 will be released? Thanks.X-From_: access-list-return-3569-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 05:46:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: bhook@verant.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:54:49 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Brian Hook Subject: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk I have Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.03 and a MOTU MIDI Express XT. I'm having difficulties trying to update the OS of my virus to 2.52. Has anyone successfully accomplished this, and if so, how? Thanks, Brian X-From_: access-list-return-3570-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 06:14:27 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:25:17 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal I think it's explicitly stated that Cakewalk and Media Player won't work. I'll need to find a different Windows solution too. Maybe I'll run the MIDI file from the sequencer in my Triton. I've also got Logic 4.5 The Access site is down or I'd go check! --M@ >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Hook [mailto:bhook@verant.com] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 11:55 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk > > >I have Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.03 and a MOTU MIDI Express XT. I'm having difficulties trying to update the OS of my virus to 2.52. Has anyone successfully accomplished this, and if so, how? > >Thanks, > >Brian > > X-From_: access-list-return-3571-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 06:36:12 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: bhook@verant.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 21:44:29 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Brian Hook Subject: RE: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk I just used a copy of Cubase VST that I forgot I had installed, and it worked AFTER I switched to using the MIDI port on my M-Audio Delta 1010. I would get blue screen of death when using my MOTU Midi Express XT randomly during the updates. This is a Win98 machine. It would be nice if Access (hell, if ALL synth manufacturers) had something like EMU's OS Downloader (a simple MIDI download app that uses Java and is thus fairly portable). Brian At 12:25 AM 5/15/00 -0400, you wrote: I think it's explicitly stated that Cakewalk and Media Player won't work. I'll need to find a different Windows solution too. Maybe I'll run the MIDI file from the sequencer in my Triton. I've also got Logic 4.5 The Access site is down or I'd go check! --M@ >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Hook [mailto:bhook@verant.com] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 11:55 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk > > >I have Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.03 and a MOTU MIDI Express XT. I'm having difficulties trying to update the OS of my virus to 2.52. Has anyone successfully accomplished this, and if so, how? > >Thanks, > >Brian > > X-From_: access-list-return-3572-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 07:05:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:14:55 +1200 X-Priority: 3 Hi Brian, >I would get blue screen of death when using my MOTU Midi Express XT randomly during the updates. This is a Win98 machine. >It would be nice if Access (hell, if ALL synth manufacturers) had something like EMU's OS Downloader (a simple MIDI download app that uses Java and is thus fairly portable). The Virus doesn't include any external MIDI controllers or software. It is expected that you have a functional MIDI setup yourself, which can deal with SysEx dumps as per the well-known and long-established MIDI standard. Seems you don't. Maybe your Midi Express hardware or drivers are brain-dead. Get something that works. Java programming for MIDI seems suspicious to me. I wouldn't expect great platform independence in this particular area. I recommend using a working SEQUENCER rather than some jumped-up Java from your WEB BROWSER. And doesn't every OS release ReadMe file say NOT to use CakeWalk? Do we need an extra readme file? Telling people to read the first readme file... Cheers, Thomas X-From_: access-list-return-3573-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 08:40:59 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: bhook@verant.com Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 23:48:50 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Brian Hook Subject: Re: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk At 05:14 PM 5/15/00 +1200, Thomas wrote: The Virus doesn't include any external MIDI controllers or software. It is expected that you have a functional MIDI setup yourself, which can deal with SysEx dumps as per the well-known and long-established MIDI standard. There is a pretty broad range of what "functional" means to people. A Wintel box with one of the most popular sequencer programs on planet earth (Cakewalk) with one of the most popular 8x8 MIDI patchbays (MidiExpress XT) would, I think, constitute a functional MIDI setup. Seems you don't. Maybe your Midi Express hardware or drivers are brain-dead. Get something that works. Obviously something is horked with my MIDI Express XT, either through design or attrition or poor drivers. I'll reserve my rant about how crappy MOTU support for the PC is for an appropriate forum, but I do intend on purchasing an EMagic AMT8 at some point. Java programming for MIDI seems suspicious to me. However, it works. And without requiring a slew of readmes and various posts/FAQs about how to get Interface A and Sequencer B to download SysEx file C. I'm not terribly thrilled with EMU either, but I will give props that their OS Downloader is a pretty elegant solution to a problem that pretty much ALL synth manufacturers that support OS/patch modification via flash ROM/MIDI sysex suffer from. And doesn't every OS release ReadMe file say NOT to use CakeWalk? Well, that's dandy for those of us that have $500 invested in Cakewalk and can't really justify purchasing another sequencer solely for downloading OS updates every 6 months. It is absurd to insist that industry standard software and hardware can be blithely ignored and unsupported by a simple README.TXT. My point is pretty simple: every manufacturer has a different way of doing a flash ROM upgrade. How this is performed seems to change depending on the manufacturer, platform, choice of interface, and software. It seems to me that if manufacturers just wrote Java apps (which are NOT the same as applets that run from your browser!) to do this, they could at least factor out one huge (and expensive) variable from the equation: the download software. Not to mention that Windows Media Player also doesn't work (ergo it may not be a problem specific to Cakewalk). Brian X-From_: access-list-return-3574-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 09:45:48 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paddy Ryan Reply-To: "paddyryan@home.com" To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:56:11 -0700 Organization: Big P Productions THOMAS YOU ARE A CONSTANTLY BITCHY AND UN-FORGIVABLE ASSHOLE. I bet you don't have a girlfriend or boyfriend. No wonder.... Many of us know as much or more than you...get off your high horse before you fall off anyway. Sorry VIRUS friends, but he deserves this. Can we move on please. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Whitmore [SMTP:thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:15 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk Hi Brian, >I would get blue screen of death when using my MOTU Midi Express XT randomly during the updates. This is a Win98 machine. >It would be nice if Access (hell, if ALL synth manufacturers) had something like EMU's OS Downloader (a simple MIDI download app that uses Java and is thus fairly portable). The Virus doesn't include any external MIDI controllers or software. It is expected that you have a functional MIDI setup yourself, which can deal with SysEx dumps as per the well-known and long-established MIDI standard. Seems you don't. Maybe your Midi Express hardware or drivers are brain-dead. Get something that works. Java programming for MIDI seems suspicious to me. I wouldn't expect great platform independence in this particular area. I recommend using a working SEQUENCER rather than some jumped-up Java from your WEB BROWSER. And doesn't every OS release ReadMe file say NOT to use CakeWalk? Do we need an extra readme file? Telling people to read the first readme file... Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-3575-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 09:48:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paddy Ryan Reply-To: "paddyryan@home.com" To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:59:14 -0700 Organization: Big P Productions Halleluia!! Know what I like? Modulating the modulators...then drinking more beer. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hook [SMTP:bhook@verant.com] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 11:49 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk At 05:14 PM 5/15/00 +1200, Thomas wrote: >The Virus doesn't include any external MIDI controllers or software. It is expected that you have a functional MIDI setup yourself, which can deal with SysEx dumps as per the well-known and long-established MIDI standard. There is a pretty broad range of what "functional" means to people. A Wintel box with one of the most popular sequencer programs on planet earth (Cakewalk) with one of the most popular 8x8 MIDI patchbays (MidiExpress XT) would, I think, constitute a functional MIDI setup. >Seems you don't. Maybe your Midi Express hardware or drivers are brain-dead. Get something that works. Obviously something is horked with my MIDI Express XT, either through design or attrition or poor drivers. I'll reserve my rant about how crappy MOTU support for the PC is for an appropriate forum, but I do intend on purchasing an EMagic AMT8 at some point. >Java programming for MIDI seems suspicious to me. However, it works. And without requiring a slew of readmes and various posts/FAQs about how to get Interface A and Sequencer B to download SysEx file C. I'm not terribly thrilled with EMU either, but I will give props that their OS Downloader is a pretty elegant solution to a problem that pretty much ALL synth manufacturers that support OS/patch modification via flash ROM/MIDI sysex suffer from. >And doesn't every OS release ReadMe file say NOT to use CakeWalk? Well, that's dandy for those of us that have $500 invested in Cakewalk and can't really justify purchasing another sequencer solely for downloading OS updates every 6 months. It is absurd to insist that industry standard software and hardware can be blithely ignored and unsupported by a simple README.TXT. My point is pretty simple: every manufacturer has a different way of doing a flash ROM upgrade. How this is performed seems to change depending on the manufacturer, platform, choice of interface, and software. It seems to me that if manufacturers just wrote Java apps (which are NOT the same as applets that run from your browser!) to do this, they could at least factor out one huge (and expensive) variable from the equation: the download software. Not to mention that Windows Media Player also doesn't work (ergo it may not be a problem specific to Cakewalk). BrianX-From_: access-list-return-3576-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 10:18:53 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 01:31:54 -0700 From: Dan The Burke Subject: Re: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk To: access-list@teklab.com, paddyryan@home.com Reply-to: Dan The Burke X-Priority: 3 >Obviously something is horked with my MIDI Express XT, either through design or attrition or poor drivers. I'll reserve my rant about how crappy >MOTU support for the PC is for an appropriate forum, but I do intend on purchasing an EMagic AMT8 at some point. What? I was considering a MIDI Timpiece AV or XT by MOTU for the PC, but I am also wary of bad PC support (a deaht knell in an age of PC dominated computers, but alas). Should I go with Emagic? This might save me a lot of headache if the MOTU PC support is bad. I did notice they still advertise drivers for Windows 3.1...like anyone on the planet would use that over95 or 98...sheesh. When they say 'Windows' support, that is scary...I want to hear 95,98, NT or 2000, not just 'Windows'. ;) Dan www.mp3.com/nukleon X-From_: access-list-return-3577-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 16:31:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Cranes Music" To: Subject: Howard Scarr in pointy blue hat! Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:39:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi everyone, I went to see Gong play at the Malvern Fringe Festival on saturday night, and they rocked! Howard was using a Virus a, a Yamaha VL7, a big Alesis master keyboard and some effects, and wearing a blue pointy gnome hat, approx. 18 inches tall! It didn't seem to interfere with his playing though, which was excellent. If any of you guys out there are into Gong, I would highly recommend going to see them on this tour; they played tracks off all of the classic albums, as well as recent material, and sounded great. bfn -Ben X-From_: access-list-return-3578-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 17:05:22 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: bhook@verant.com Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 08:12:13 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Brian Hook Subject: Re: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk At 01:31 AM 5/15/00 -0700, you wrote: What? I was considering a MIDI Timpiece AV or XT by MOTU for the PC, but I am also wary of bad PC support (a deaht knell in an age of PC dominated computers, but alas). Well, this is kinda off topic, but here's the short form of my rant: MOTU is a great Mac house. At some point I guess they realized that the PC was a pretty interesting space to start getting customers, so it seems they've done the bare minimum amount of work to support their gear in the PC space that they can sell their gear without getting sued. For an illustration, go to their Web site and look at the dates on their drivers. Hell, just look at their drivers period. Their USB MTP and Midi Express XT still dont' have Windows drivers (this is so bad that on their "Comments" page they have a statement saying "Yes, we KNOW YOU WANT USB DRIVERS FOR WINDOWS!"). This isn't to say that all their gear or drivers are crap, it's just that they really don't understand the PC space at all. They don't support it very well, so you have to hope that whatever drivers they've provided really will work. If you talk to their sales folks, they all use Mac + Digital Performer + MTP + 2408 systems, and they just won't be able to answer any questions about the PC. Should I go with Emagic? In my experience and based on comments on the Web and Usenet, EMagic definitely seems to make the best MIDI patchbay and timepiece (Unitor8). However, to be honest, I still consider EMagic (and Steinberg) primarily a Mac house with moderate PC support, although their PC support seems to be a bit better than MOTU's. For all around strong OS support, I believe that MidiMan probably has the strongest track record, but they don't make an 8x8 Patchbay. Brian P.S. One exception: in terms of raw specs and expansion capability, it looks like the MOTU 2408mkII system is pretty much king of the hill for the price, primarily because of its expansion capabilities IMO. I use an M-Audio Delta 1010 right now, but expanding its set of inputs isn't easy. If I had a lot of money, I'd probably end up with a Frontier Designs system (which DOES have an 8x8 patchbay available). X-From_: access-list-return-3579-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon May 15 17:28:19 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: From: "Matt Picone" To: Subject: RE: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:38:40 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal I use two Roland Super MPU-64 in tandem via USB on my PC running Win98 with NO troubles ever. Caveat: If the PC goes to 'sleep mode' for more than 4 hours, I need to reboot before it can see the MIDI ports. If you need something to generate timecode, however, this won't work. Best bet? Get a Mac and sit it right beside your PC! I did! Yes, for all the neglect the Mac has gotten in the business/home world, it still has beautiful perfect attentive development and support foir MIDI hardware. -M@ >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Hook [mailto:bhook@verant.com] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:12 AM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Updating from 2.01 to 2.52 under Cakewalk > > >At 01:31 AM 5/15/00 -0700, you wrote: >>What? I was considering a MIDI Timpiece AV or XT by MOTU for >the PC, but I >>am also wary of bad PC support (a deaht knell in an age of PC >dominated >>computers, but alas). > >Well, this is kinda off topic, but here's the short form of my rant: MOTU >is a great Mac house. At some point I guess they realized that the PC was >a pretty interesting space to start getting customers, so it seems they've >done the bare minimum amount of work to support their gear in the PC space >that they can sell their gear without getting sued. For an illustration, >go to their Web site and look at the dates on their drivers. Hell, just >look at their drivers period. > >Their USB MTP and Midi Express XT still dont' have Windows drivers (this is >so bad that on their "Comments" page they have a statement saying "Yes, we >KNOW YOU WANT USB DRIVERS FOR WINDOWS!"). > >This isn't to say that all their gear or drivers are crap, it's just that >they really don't understand the PC space at all. They don't support it >very well, so you have to hope that whatever drivers they've provided really will work. If you talk to their sales folks, they all use Mac + >Digital Performer + MTP + 2408 systems, and they just won't be able to answer any questions about the PC. > >>Should I go with Emagic? > >In my experience and based on comments on the Web and Usenet, EMagic definitely seems to make the best MIDI patchbay and timepiece (Unitor8). However, to be honest, I still consider EMagic (and Steinberg) >primarily a Mac house with moderate PC support, although their PC support >seems to be a bit better than MOTU's. > >For all around strong OS support, I believe that MidiMan probably has the >strongest track record, but they don't make an 8x8 Patchbay. > >Brian > >P.S. One exception: in terms of raw specs and expansion capability, it looks like the MOTU 2408mkII system is pretty much king of the hill for the >price, primarily because of its expansion capabilities IMO. I use an M-Audio Delta 1010 right now, but expanding its set of inputs isn't easy. If I had a lot of money, I'd probably end up with a Frontier Designs >system (which DOES have an 8x8 patchbay available). > >