Thanks for your help. I just wanted to confirm it worked ! Sixten >antares autotune or any pitch quantiser. > >G. I have the Autotune, the Antares ATR-1...just bought it. I like it very well...and yes, I hear one was used for Cher. The Antares Auto Tune was originally a plug-in for ProTools, but now there is a standalone DX version and of course, the rack mount. Yeah I tried it on the fastest setting and it really does work...like Cher if you want. But you can dial in just enough to sound natural and correct pitch and it works well! Dan The Burke www.mp3.com/nukleon Ever tried it on a synth line? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan The Burke" To: Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: cher program? > >>antares autotune or any pitch quantiser. >> >>G. > >I have the Autotune, the Antares ATR-1...just bought it. I like it very well...and yes, I hear one was used for Cher. The Antares Auto Tune was originally a plug-in for ProTools, but now there is a standalone DX version >and of course, the rack mount. Yeah I tried it on the fastest setting and it >really does work...like Cher if you want. But you can dial in just enough to >sound natural and correct pitch and it works well! > >Dan The Burke >www.mp3.com/nukleon > > > > >It happened after trying to load >some of you's guys' stupid patches via midi. wow you're coolmy beginners attempts with a Virus are on www.mp3.com/Immigrant. Probably some arguments for the Virus vs Nova discussion included ;-) Don't be confused by the genres I chose for the tracks. In fact I have no ideas of the different genres of electronic music. Regards Stefan Hey FYI - I was just looking through a Sound on Sound and saw a little dealer ad for the new "Digitech Talker" - one of the bullet points says "As used on Cher's vocal in the song 'Believe'". JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan The Burke" To: Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: cher program? > >>antares autotune or any pitch quantiser. >> >>G. > >I have the Autotune, the Antares ATR-1...just bought it. I like it very well...and yes, I hear one was used for Cher. The Antares Auto Tune was originally a plug-in for ProTools, but now there is a standalone DX version >and of course, the rack mount. Yeah I tried it on the fastest setting and it >really does work...like Cher if you want. But you can dial in just enough to >sound natural and correct pitch and it works well! > >Dan The Burke >www.mp3.com/nukleon > > > > >Hey FYI - > >I was just looking through a Sound on Sound and saw a little dealer ad for the new "Digitech Talker" - one of the bullet points says "As used on Cher's vocal in the song 'Believe'". > >JP > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan The Burke" To: >Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:07 PM >Subject: Re: cher program? > > >> >>>antares autotune or any pitch quantiser. >>> >>>G. >> >>I have the Autotune, the Antares ATR-1...just bought it. I like it very well...and yes, I hear one was used for Cher. The Antares Auto Tune was originally a plug-in for ProTools, but now there is a standalone DX >version >>and of course, the rack mount. Yeah I tried it on the fastest setting and >it >>really does work...like Cher if you want. But you can dial in just enough >to >>sound natural and correct pitch and it works well! >> >>Dan The Burke >>www.mp3.com/nukleon >> >> >> >> > > Yes this Digitech talker was what the dude used.I remember seeng a pic with the dude holding the device.I don't know where these other ppl get there info from but it was definately not AutoTune. TaRG¯N At 9:11 AM +0100 on 29.04.2000 Gerald Stringer wrote: antares autotune or any pitch quantiser. In fact you can even do it using the Virus, with the vocoder. Of course this will alter the sound of the voice even more, but still a nice effect. I hear Kid Rock has made an entire song that makes heavy use of this effect. In Germany there was a cheesy boy group (forget the name, but they were produced by Dieter Bohlen, the human incarnation of all things babylon) that used this effect right after the Cher single went up high into the charts. Then there is always the D2 (mobile provider) commercials on TV. So even though I think the effect is nice it has been overused in an aweful context, I think. Then again, maybe this is all too unspecific for this list...;) G. ---------- >From: luxx >To: access virus Subject: cher program? >Date: Sat, Apr 29, 2000, 1:34 am > >what was the name of that or those programs that will give the cher effect? >thanx > >my stuff >http://www.luxx.ubikorp.com > > -- think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Targon (06:31 AM 05.01.2000) wrote: >Yes this Digitech talker was what the dude used.I remember seeng a pic with the dude holding the device.I don't know where these other ppl get there info from but it was definately not AutoTune. This has been discussed many times on many lists. The actual track on the CD was down with a Digitech Talker, but when she did the tune *live* on the supporting tour, it was done with an Antares AutoTune. http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb99/articles/tracks661.htm Check the section titled "That Vocal Trick In Full". The information about the AutoTune came from the mouth (hands) of her keyboardist/road producer in a message to the Waldorf users list last year during the tour. Mark In a message dated 5/1/00 6:02:27 AM, jpotter2@tampabay.rr.com writes: >I was just looking through a Sound on Sound and saw a little dealer ad for the new "Digitech Talker" - one of the bullet points says "As used on Cher's >vocal in the song 'Believe'". I remember reading the issue of SOS where they interviewed the guy who recorded "Believe," and he did say he used an old Korg Vocoder and then the Digitech Talker to achieve that effect. Of course, he may have been deliberately obscuring the truth.....wouldn't be the first time, either. -MarshallThanks! :o) * -----Original Message----- * From: Zack Steinkamp [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] * Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 7:40 PM * To: access-list@teklab.com * Subject: Re: Noisy Virus * * * > It happened after trying to load * > some of you's guys' stupid patches via midi. * * wow * you're cool * * * so are you enjoying any of the stupid patches, or are you busy trying desperately to make an 808 kick with your Virus? On 00-05-01 08:16, Phillips, Adrian wrote: >Thanks! > >:o) > > >* -----Original Message----- >* From: Zack Steinkamp [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] * Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 7:40 PM >* To: access-list@teklab.com >* Subject: Re: Noisy Virus >* >* >* > It happened after trying to load >* > some of you's guys' stupid patches via midi. * >* wow >* you're cool >* >* >*Interesting stuff I like it. (refering to Raindance, I'm downloading others now) Melodic, dancey, atmospheric, and sort of a touch of 80's in it but I can't explain how I come to that (stings toward the end maybe?). Your music has earned a "save" into my directory of great music by the Access-List memebers directory. (Lots of you guys have the best music!!!!!) This song is kinda a hodge podge of lots of patches but somehow it really works without getting tiring, and the last bit of the song when the strings come is is just the best. Is it predominantly Virus or Nova? Some of the sounds have a more metalic crisp cold sorta sound to it that I'm assuming is the SN but if I'm wrong the Virus sound libararies could use some of those! I have a difficult time to get a colder cruchier sound. My Kawai K5000s is only cold and metalic sounding, but it's a bitch to program it and have any sort of control (at least for me, but judging from the users I'm not alone in this). In your opinion what is easier to program Virus or SN? And what do you feel the advantages and disadvantages of each system is as far as both sound design and usability of the instrument goes? I've thought about getting one as a second synth to work beside my Virus (Until I gain more contol of sound design of my K5k I won't consider it more than a controller.) You have alot of background atmospheric things and "one hit" things (not sure what those are officially called)... where they Virus or SN? Reason I ask is because everytime I start to make patches I currently somehow always turn them into some sorta monster pad that becomes a song into itself LOL. I have a hard time to make the "one hit" sorta things you would use to "colorize" and "detail" a song. (I use terms that make sense to me, and probably nobody else... sorry.. I lack the formal training. Just give me the right terminology and I'll use that.) Have Fun, and really impressive stuff. (Love those strings at the end the most I think... wish there was more of it.) Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Trippler To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: attempts >my beginners attempts with a Virus are on www.mp3.com/Immigrant. Probably some arguments for the Virus vs Nova discussion included ;-) Don't be confused by the genres I chose for the tracks. In fact I have no ideas of the different genres of electronic music. > >Regards Stefan > > Greetings Virus list, The other day I accidentally spilled some gravel on my Virus kb. The gravel is stuck in between several of the synths keys. I was wondering if there are schematics available for the Virus kb? Has anyone taken one apart? Are the keys easy to access/clean/remove? Will taking the kb apart void my warranty? Thanks for any information! Matt A bit OT but....how the hell do you accidentally spill GRAVEL on your keyboard??? (Very curious...) -----Original Message----- From: Matt Key [SMTP:mattkey@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 10:57 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus kb schematics? Gravel in my kb! Greetings Virus list, The other day I accidentally spilled some gravel on my Virus kb. The gravel is stuck in between several of the synths keys. I was wondering if there are schematics available for the Virus kb? Has anyone taken one apart? Are the keys easy to access/clean/remove? Will taking the kb apart void my warranty? Thanks for any information! Matt----- Original Message ----- From: Kintama >Interesting stuff I like it. Thanks for the cheering up words ;-) >Is it predominantly Virus or Nova? Some of the sounds have a more metalic crisp cold sorta sound to it that I'm assuming is the SN but if I'm wrong the Virus sound libararies could use some of those! There is one wavetable sound from the MW2 in the track called Glassydrone that can easyly be identified. The other "cold" sound is a Virus preset (Ice House). The bass is Pulse and Virus layered. Thanks again for Kai 9's incredible LFO Noise. The distorted 303 solo line, the distorted "guitar", the pads and glide sounds come from the supernova. >In your opinion what is easier to program Virus or SN? And what do you feel >the advantages and disadvantages of each system is as far as both sound design and usability of the instrument goes? If I write about that theme please keep in mind that it is a beginners estimation: The programming of Virus and SN is comparable, for my opinion the SN's interface as slight advantages. On the other hand, I had the SN some months before I got the virus and in addition the excellent software updates of access added many features to the Virus that only could be hidden in the submenues. Concerning sound both machines are completely different. Anyone who owns both machines can identify them immediately in my tracks. As a german it's difficult to me to describe the sound characters. Many owners say that the virus sounds fatter than the SN. This may be true but is not always an advantage for me. I usually make arrangements with the Supernova in multi-mode and then replace some tracks by Virus sounds. Its very difficult (for me) to make a song only with a virus performance because every single virus sound is so dense(?) that there is not much room left for another sound without equalizing or thinning out, and the art of mixing is one thing I am still learning (at least I hope so). Imho Virus and SN are good complements. > >You have alot of background atmospheric things and "one hit" things (not sure what those are officially called)... where they Virus or SN? Reason I >ask is because everytime I start to make patches I currently somehow always >turn them into some sorta monster pad that becomes a song into itself LOL. I have a hard time to make the "one hit" sorta things you would use to "colorize" and "detail" a song. (I use terms that make sense to me, and probably nobody else... sorry.. I lack the formal training. Just give me the right terminology and I'll use that.) > I own the Virus now for more than 1 year and finally managed to program a few useful patches of my own. One reason for this is that there are so many excellent and inspiring sounds in the presets and from the people on the list that I became way lazy ;-) >Have Fun, and really impressive stuff. (Love those strings at the end the most I think... wish there was more of it.) > >Kintama Thanks and have fun too. My apologize to all who are bored by that long mail. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Stefan Trippler > >>my beginners attempts with a Virus are on www.mp3.com/Immigrant. Probably some arguments for the Virus vs Nova discussion included ;-) Don't be confused by the genres I chose for the tracks. In fact I have no ideas of the different genres of electronic music. >> >>Regards Stefan >> >Ever tried it on a synth line? Nope...but of course I bought it for the voice and stuff. ;) Dan The Burke WwW.BurkeStudios.com WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN It was both I hear....not just one thing..but Computer Music mentioned the ATR-1 as well or Autotune used for Cher. Dan The Burke WwW.BurkeStudios.com WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN >Greetings Virus list, > >The other day I accidentally spilled some gravel on my Virus kb. The gravel >is stuck in between several of the synths keys. I was wondering if there are >schematics available for the Virus kb? Has anyone taken one apart? Are the >keys easy to access/clean/remove? Will taking the kb apart void my warranty? > >Thanks for any information! Matt One might ask...why was gravel anywhere near your keyboard? Perhaps you have a fishtank nearby you were refilling? ;) Dan The Burke WwW.BurkeStudios.com WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN Ok, for those wondering about the gravel. It came from a little cactus I had resting on the virus case. Stupid idea. Never drink and virus-ize. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan The Burke To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Virus kb schematics? Gravel in my kb! > >>Greetings Virus list, >> >>The other day I accidentally spilled some gravel on my Virus kb. The >gravel >>is stuck in between several of the synths keys. I was wondering if there >are >>schematics available for the Virus kb? Has anyone taken one apart? Are >the >>keys easy to access/clean/remove? Will taking the kb apart void my warranty? >> >>Thanks for any information! Matt > >One might ask...why was gravel anywhere near your keyboard? Perhaps you have >a fishtank nearby you were refilling? ;) > >Dan The Burke >WwW.BurkeStudios.com >WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN > > hi troll, if you want to be a playa hata, please do it privately. :o) * -----Original Message----- * From: Zack Steinkamp [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] * Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:08 AM * To: access-list@teklab.com * Subject: Re: Noisy Virus * * * so are you enjoying any of the stupid patches, * or are you busy trying desperately to make an * 808 kick with your Virus? * * * * On 00-05-01 08:16, Phillips, Adrian wrote: * > Thanks! * > * > :o) * > * > * > * -----Original Message----- * > * From: Zack Steinkamp [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] * > * Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 7:40 PM * > * To: access-list@teklab.com * > * Subject: Re: Noisy Virus * > * * > * * > * > It happened after trying to load * > * > some of you's guys' stupid patches via midi. * > * * > * wow * > * you're cool * > * * > * * > * * Seriously... Why would (how could) loading a patch result in noisy output? I believe it - just wondering why? Anyone from Access care to comment? Strange... Maybe it's a Virus Virus. BTW - It was pretty clear that the comment "some of you's guys' stupid patches via midi" was tongue in cheek... In a message dated 5/1/00 6:21:42 PM, mattkey@mindspring.com writes: >Ok, for those wondering about the gravel. It came from a little cactus I had resting on the virus case. Stupid idea. Never drink and virus-ize. Imagine if it had been a beer........ -MarshallHi, Can someone tell me how to make my virus sound like an 808? I hear its all the rage in that electronica dancing music. Hi everyone, I've just got back from holiday, and was just wondering if I've missed any important news in the last fortnight? I don't suppose we have a date for the v4.0 release yet ? -Ben Access sent out a note saying the first 100 people to respond would get a free Indigo... The vouchers are on their way in the mail as we speak. Too bad you missed it. JP PS - No announcement on the new OS yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cranes Music To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:00 AM Subject: Back from holiday Hi everyone, I've just got back from holiday, and was just wondering if I've missed any important news in the last fortnight? I don't suppose we have a date for the v4.0 release yet ? -Ben Muhahahahaha LMAO thats a wickid 1 man ;-} TaRG¯N Access sent out a note saying the first 100 people to respond would get a free Indigo... The vouchers are on their way in the mail as we speak. ÊToo bad you missed it. JP PS - No announcement on the new OS yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cranes Music Ê To: access-list@teklab.com Ê Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:00 AM Subject: Back from holiday Hi everyone, I've just got back from holiday, and was just wondering if I've missed any important news in the last fortnight? I don't suppose we have a date for the v4.0 release yet ? -Ben Michael, I have to say that "Fibroptic Amorphism" really whips the lamma's ass! Excellent track. Love the Agnus Dei bit. Is there any Virus in it? -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: my CD release moved to...... Author: Non-HP-FibrOptic7 (FibrOptic7@aol.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/1/00 8:25 PM While I'm here.... I've found a new distributor for my Psychedelic Goa Trance CD I released. You can now find it at: http://www.spectralpsy.com/Shopping/Catalog/product_detail.asp?ItemNumber=OTCD 01&Cat=cds&OB=AlbumName Or you can visit the online shop at: http://www.spectralpsy.com If you don't like purchasing CDs, you can download some tracks for free! Yes, I said "FREE!!" That would be found: http://www.mp3.com/artists/31/otherworld_transmission.html Thanks, Michael Godfrey "crazy lute-playing boy"I heard they were tracking email! I've already forwarded the letter from access to 50 of my friends. :o) -----Original Message----- From: John E. Potter [mailto:jpotter2@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:06 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Back from holiday Access sent out a note saying the first 100 people to respond would get a free Indigo... The vouchers are on their way in the mail as we speak. Too bad you missed it. JP PS - No announcement on the new OS yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cranes Music To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:00 AM Subject: Back from holiday Hi everyone, I've just got back from holiday, and was just wondering if I've missed any important news in the last fortnight? I don't suppose we have a date for the v4.0 release yet ? -Ben Is this CD gonna be available in stores? (Tower Records for example) or is it strictly a mail order kinda thing? Must have, Kintama >Michael, > >I have to say that "Fibroptic Amorphism" really whips the lamma's ass! Excellent track. Love the Agnus Dei bit. > >Is there any Virus in it? > >-Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgenius > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: my CD release moved to...... >Author: Non-HP-FibrOptic7 (FibrOptic7@aol.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/1/00 8:25 PM > > >While I'm here.... > >I've found a new distributor for my Psychedelic Goa Trance CD I released. > >You can now find it at: > >http://www.spectralpsy.com/Shopping/Catalog/product_detail.asp?ItemNumber=O TCD >01&Cat=cds&OB=AlbumName > >Or you can visit the online shop at: > >http://www.spectralpsy.com > >If you don't like purchasing CDs, you can download some tracks for free! Yes, I said "FREE!!" > >That would be found: > >http://www.mp3.com/artists/31/otherworld_transmission.html > >Thanks, > >Michael Godfrey >"crazy lute-playing boy" > > There was a thread mentioning Juno's Hoover sound last week. I ask all the Juno's owner that I know to look in their manual to see which preset is called Hoover. Turns out there is no preset names in the manual. Could anybody tell me where the name comes from and where I can hear what this patch sounds like from the real Juno? Thanks! norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/Hi all, Whilst sunning myself on the shores of Lanzarote, my mind began to wander back across the ocean towards my lonely Virus( which my girlfriend wouldn't let me take on holiday), and I got to thinking about this new groove delay that has been promised for v4.0. I'm assuming that it will allow you to offset alternate echoes by given amounts, or maybe the echoes will follow preset groove templates to give you that multi-tap effect without the hassle. Grateful asÊI am to Access for this inclusion, I can't help but wish that something similar could be applied to the arpeggiators in Multi-Mode. If you could set up a 4-to-the-floor kick on channel 1,for instance, and then a hi-hat on channel 2 which was still set to a clock res of 1/4 but offset by 1/8, with maybe a snare set to a clock res of 1/2, but offset by 1/4 on channel 3, you would have a drum loop that can be triggered live (albeit a pretty boring one). This is only the tip of the potential iceberg however, as you could bring in all sorts of 'melodic' hits as well. If you could set the clock res to longer than one bar, perhaps up to 16 bars long, then you set up some really funky grooves that only cycled every 16 bars! Think about the possibilities for playing live - anything that makes it less necessary to take my computer on stage is a plus point in my book. Anyone else think this is a good idea? -Ben In a message dated 5/2/00 10:43:00 AM Central Daylight Time, kintama@jps.net writes: >Is this CD gonna be available in stores? (Tower Records for example) or is >it strictly a mail order kinda thing? > >Must have, >Kintama > In a message dated 5/2/00 10:43:00 AM Central Daylight Time, kintama@jps.net writes: >Is this CD gonna be available in stores? (Tower Records for example) or is >it strictly a mail order kinda thing? > >Must have, >Kintama > Sorry for sending that last one accidentally without answering. :( It is now available at: http://www.spectralpsy.com It WAS at X-Radio, but not sure what X-Radio is doing with itself. :( The RealAudio tracks at X-Radio should still be all intact, even though you won't be able to purchase it through their site. But Spectral Psychedelia has it now. :) As far as something like Tower Records or Best Buy....yikes...the rental space alone in a bin is like absolutely insane....yes, unfortunately it costs the artist ( or their distributor ) to be at Best Buy! And if your stuff doesn't move fast enough, they mark it down to nothing to get rid of it or make you buy it back from them. Then your distributor is ready to kill you because they want a new release to push, yet they want to trash the last one, and they don't want to be financially responsible for returns. :(~ It's not fun. Michael>As far as something like Tower Records or Best Buy....yikes...the rental space alone in a bin is like absolutely insane....yes, unfortunately it costs the artist ( or their distributor ) to be at Best Buy! And if your stuff doesn't move fast enough, they mark it down to nothing to get rid of it or make you buy it back from them. Then your distributor is ready to kill you because they want a new release to push, yet they want to trash the last one, and they don't want to be financially responsible for returns. :(~ It's not fun. whoa screw that dude it's all about internet distribution now the only thing to figure out is how to be a professional musician.... ;-) zsThe sound is actually called "Mentasm" >There was a thread mentioning Juno's Hoover sound last week. I ask all the Juno's owner that I know to look in their manual to see which preset is called Hoover. Turns out there is no preset names in the manual. > >Could anybody tell me where the name comes from and where I can hear what this patch sounds like from the real Juno? > >Thanks! >norsez > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ >>Ok, for those wondering about the gravel. It came from a little cactus I had resting on the virus case. Stupid idea. Never drink and virus-ize. > >Imagine if it had been a beer........ Yeah, it woulda been dry :)) ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.za>>There was a thread mentioning Juno's Hoover sound >>and where I can hear what this patch sounds like from the real Juno? Have anyone thought that this could be a sample made by someone called JUNO - Like on the A3k list? Just my 10c ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.za >wander back across the ocean towards my lonely Virus( which my girlfriend wouldn't let me take on holiday), Anyone else think this is a good idea? NO!!! Go and have your holliday, man. Go pester your girlfriend (Or something...) just get your mind off the VIRUS... I can feel it getting cold out here - I think I must stop sending messages to this E-MAIL-ROBOT. I see everytime I send something to this list, I get something else back. Come-on Robot. Do your stuff :)) PS - remember those robots you could e-mail in the early 80's? PS2 - I think the offset idea for the ARP is GR8!!! ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zaExcellent idea... ----- Original Message ----- From: Cranes Music To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: arpeggiator offset Hi all, Whilst sunning myself on the shores of Lanzarote, my mind began to wander back across the ocean towards my lonely Virus( which my girlfriend wouldn't let me take on holiday), and I got to thinking about this new groove delay that has been promised for v4.0. I'm assuming that it will allow you to offset alternate echoes by given amounts, or maybe the echoes will follow preset groove templates to give you that multi-tap effect without the hassle. Grateful asÊI am to Access for this inclusion, I can't help but wish that something similar could be applied to the arpeggiators in Multi-Mode. If you could set up a 4-to-the-floor kick on channel 1,for instance, and then a hi-hat on channel 2 which was still set to a clock res of 1/4 but offset by 1/8, with maybe a snare set to a clock res of 1/2, but offset by 1/4 on channel 3, you would have a drum loop that can be triggered live (albeit a pretty boring one). This is only the tip of the potential iceberg however, as you could bring in all sorts of 'melodic' hits as well. If you could set the clock res to longer than one bar, perhaps up to 16 bars long, then you set up some really funky grooves that only cycled every 16 bars! Think about the possibilities for playing live - anything that makes it less necessary to take my computer on stage is a plus point in my book. Anyone else think this is a good idea? -Ben >Can someone tell me how to make my virus sound like an 808? I hear its all the rage in that electronica dancing music. > Just paint a ROLAND sign on the back of your VIRUS, load a couple of RP's presets and pretend you're 16, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you can just make the sounds yourself. There is enough said on the NET about 909/808/303 synthesis, which you should be able to find using a standard search-engine like altavista, and make the sounds yourself. Alternatively, buy a sampler, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you could always use 'fruitysucks', 'rebirthsucks' or 'horrorhead'. You can even use a standard sequencer, like cakewalk, cubase or logic to play pre-sampled sounds back that you can obtain at a site like MAZ orrrrrrrrrrrrr, just go out and buy a KORG ER1. All the same... ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zait was a joke!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "cyber7 (aka Aubrey)" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:25 PM Subject: re: Re: Noisy Virus >>Can someone tell me how to make my virus sound like an 808? I hear its all >>the rage in that electronica dancing music. >> > >Just paint a ROLAND sign on the back of your VIRUS, load a couple of RP's presets and pretend you're 16, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you can just make the sounds yourself. There is enough said on the NET about 909/808/303 synthesis, which you should be able to find using a standard search-engine like altavista, and make the sounds yourself. Alternatively, buy a sampler, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you could always use 'fruitysucks', 'rebirthsucks' or 'horrorhead'. You can even use a standard sequencer, like cakewalk, cubase or logic to play pre-sampled sounds back that you can obtain at a site like MAZ orrrrrrrrrrrrr, just go out and buy a KORG ER1. All the same... > > >----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** >http://go.to/cyber7 >(alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) >http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 >mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za >******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! >http://www.mighty.co.za > Dear Canine, Recently, I've been seeing this letter "K" on the LED of my Virus A. Why is it there? I don't like it. Plus, I've been having some problems with patch changes lately, like the Virus will default to this program "a1 first" with that "K" over in the corner of the LED (or whatever channel I'm using.) I've reset the Virus but it still won't go away. Thanks for your help!!!!! mary w. Mary C. Wright Woolworth Center Princeton University Princeton, NJ 08544-1007 USA +1-609-683-8933 http://www.music.princeton.edu/~maryThat "K" is an initial from the person who designed the patch that you are using (I forgot the name). Another example is "RP" from Rob Papen (who is on the list). mary wright wrote: > >Dear Canine, > >Recently, I've been seeing this letter "K" on the LED of my Virus A. Why is it there? I don't like it. >Plus, I've been having some problems with patch changes lately, like the Virus will default to this program "a1 first" with that "K" over in the corner of the LED (or whatever channel I'm using.) I've reset the Virus but it still won't go away. > >Thanks for your help!!!!! > >mary w. > >Mary C. Wright > >Woolworth Center >Princeton University >Princeton, NJ 08544-1007 >USA > >+1-609-683-8933 > >http://www.music.princeton.edu/~maryCool, the Virus has made it to the upper levels of our educational institutions! Are you laying down some beefy grooves for the music program there, Mary? My alma mater (UCSD) was into electronic music but damn they did some weird-ass stuff there. I remember some guy from that program seriously and excitedly describing how he would project a slide of a star constellation onto a screen and where stars intersected the music paper he would transcribe a note. "Music from the stars"... Puhlease... I really wanted to tell him my idea which was to instead project a slide of my ass on a screen and match notes to all the freckles, zits, etc... "Music from the ass" ;) -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: K Author: Non-HP-mstolley (mstolley@food.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/2/00 4:21 PM That "K" is an initial from the person who designed the patch that you are using (I forgot the name). Another example is "RP" from Rob Papen (who is on the list). mary wright wrote: > >Dear Canine, > >Recently, I've been seeing this letter "K" on the LED of my Virus A. Why is it there? I don't like it. >Plus, I've been having some problems with patch changes lately, like the Virus will default to this program "a1 first" with that "K" over in the corner of the LED (or whatever channel I'm using.) I've reset the Virus but it still won't go away. > >Thanks for your help!!!!! > >mary w. > >Mary C. Wright > >Woolworth Center >Princeton University >Princeton, NJ 08544-1007 >USA > >+1-609-683-8933 > >http://www.music.princeton.edu/~maryAt 7:10 PM -0400 on 02.05.2000 mary wright wrote: Dear Canine, Recently, I've been seeing this letter "K" on the LED of my Virus A. Why is it there? I don't like it. Plus, I've been having some problems with patch changes lately, like the Virus will default to this program "a1 first" with that "K" over in the corner of the LED (or whatever channel I'm using.) I've reset the Virus but it still won't go away. dear mary, hm, I am not exactly sure where that letter appears. A K on the rightmost side of the name of a single program indicates that this sound has been created by Christoph Kemper, the DSP programmer of the Virus and CEO of Access. if the K appears somewhere else than there, and looks like it does not belong, then maybe there is something weird about your Virus? But I have never heard of a problem like this, I especially can't imagine anything that wouldn't go away upon resetting the Virus. Please describe this problem in more detail... -- think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ does anyone Know of a z1 mailing list?is there a or many websites that contain virus sounds? is there a particular page of links?I'm new to the the list and bought a Virus about two months ago but I haven't got it yet. They are very hard to get your hands on in western Canada right now i'm told. So i've been reading my mail from the list every day while staring at an empty hole in my rack where my little red beast will soon be (it's killin me!!!) Anyway......one thing that i've noticed in the last little bit about list members songs is that most people are crediting other gear for their drum parts! Is there a reason for this? I didn't really get a chance to check out many drum parts before I bought, so i have no idea how they sound!!! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com It's actually called different things by different people, I found a bank of Juno sounds on the net with a similar sound in it called Dominator (from the Human Resource track of the same name), the Mentasm thing is because Joey Beltram did a track (called Mentasm I think) that had the sound in. Most of the people that I know call the sound Hoover. Either way they're all pretty much the same thing. >The sound is actually called "Mentasm" The Prophecy mailing list is a discussion-forum by email. Currently it is used for topics about the KORG Prophecy and the KORG Z1 and has a frequency of one or two new emails each day. There is an accurate FAQ about this list, maintained by Gisle Martens Meyer (and I am proud that it is hosted at my site). You can find it here. How to subscribe to the Prophecy mailing list? Send an email to LISTSERV@XENON.FELVI.HU, with no subject, and in the body the words: SUBSCRIBE PROPHECY How to unsubscribe? Send an email to LISTSERV@XENON.FELVI.HU, with no subject, and in the body the words: SIGNOFF PROPHECY ----- Original Message ----- From: luxx To: krz list ; access virus Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:43 AM Subject: z1 mailing list? >does anyone Know of a z1 mailing list? Where can I find Sounds for the Z1 in the Internet? Does anybody know? Greetinx, Tobias ?¼¡`¡¼?¿,üü,¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿,üü,¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿,üü,¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿ Tobias Menguser, Zootrop Island Music Studios Germany Tel.: 0049-(0)6071-612832 mobil: 0171-7401186 ?¼¡`¡¼?¿,üü,¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿,üü,¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿,üü,¿?¼¡`¡¼?¿ ----- Original Message ----- From: Envelope Generator To: ; Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:51 PM Subject: Re: z1 mailing list? >The Prophecy mailing list is a discussion-forum by email. Currently it is used for topics about the KORG Prophecy and the KORG Z1 and has a frequency >of one or two new emails each day. There is an accurate FAQ about this list, >maintained by Gisle Martens Meyer (and I am proud that it is hosted at my site). You can find it here. > >How to subscribe to the Prophecy mailing list? Send an email to LISTSERV@XENON.FELVI.HU, with no subject, and in the body the words: SUBSCRIBE PROPHECY > >How to unsubscribe? Send an email to LISTSERV@XENON.FELVI.HU, with no subject, and in the body the words: SIGNOFF PROPHECY > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: luxx >To: krz list ; access virus >Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:43 AM >Subject: z1 mailing list? > > >>does anyone Know of a z1 mailing list? > excellent question! from my perspective, the Virus is quite capable of making percussive noises. The envelopes and LFO's (along with the PUNCH parameter) can be short enough to get a good, sharp WHACK out of any sound. As far as familiar drum sounds go, the Virus could conceivably make a good sounding 808 or 909 kick (heh heh), snare (well, almost), or tom-tom. I've built some other (non-Roland-esque) drumsounds with mine that I use quite a bit. BUT ... (and this is a big-ass butt) For most people, there's a few things holding them back from using a Virus as a drummachine .... 1) polyphony ... kick + snare + hat + cymbal + other rythmic stuff == half a Virus-a's polyphony. Better to use it for things like wooshy-cutting-jabbing-stabbing-dreamlike synthsouds that a Virus excels at. 2) realism ... if anyone has made a realistic cymbal patch (NOT like an 808 cymbal) with a Virus, please speak up! Certain kinds of common drumsounds (claps too, I guess), as short as their duration is, can be wickedly complex, particularly in terms of noise modulation and harmonic changes. Subtractive synthesis, as implemented on a Virus, doesn't do this very well. Usually what I'll do if I want to use a Virus drumsound in a track is to record the sound into my sampler, and use it (and its big polyphony) to play the drums. It all depends though, particularly if you want an constantly-changing sound that only the Virus can create. For a really good example of what a Virus is capable of, percussion-wise, you should listen to the 'Beatbox' demosong on the Access website... http://www.access-music.de/files/audio/demo_cd_beatbox.mp3 hope that helps zs On 00-05-03 02:20, SCOTT L. wrote: >I'm new to the the list and bought a Virus about two months ago but I haven't got it yet. They are very hard to get your hands on in western Canada right now i'm told. So i've been reading my mail from the list every day while staring at an empty hole in my rack where my little red beast will soon be (it's killin me!!!) Anyway......one thing that i've noticed in the last little bit about list members songs is that most people are crediting other gear for their drum parts! Is there a reason for this? I didn't really get a chance to check out many drum parts before I bought, so i have no idea how they sound!!! > >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com is there a tutorial on haw to do dumps and reads with a mac? i have galaxy 2.5 for a mac. i can do the dump to the prog and save it. but as far as loading it up in galaxy no go. and transmitting it back to the virus no go there too. please help.. thankshey DG your sounds are pretty damn cool please give us some detail on hrfid ... drums? is that a guitar? is the Virus giving the buzzy-bassline? ;-) keep on truckin zs On 00-04-22 00:23, dg wrote: >Here are some tunes that I did using the Virus b and other stuff. I am looking for some friendly criticism :) (I only do this as a hobby, so dont be too harsh). > >http://208.188.80.49/hrfrid.mp3 > >Yet another . > >http://208.188.80.49/feedback.mp3 > >and another .. > >http://208.188.80.49/dancesun.mp3 > >and a couple more..... >http://208.188.80.49/latethur.mp3 >http://208.188.80.49/dramatik.mp3 > >Thanks, > >dgHi all! I have uploaded some new sounds made for Virus A/B/KB. You can download them at the Sounds section at www.access-music.de in a while (they are called mhsounds.zip) or right away at http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-29128/mhsounds.zip Enjoy them and please tell me what you think! /Micke hammon@swipnet.se The Virus makes excellent drum sounds, in fact it's one of the reasons I chose the Virus. The envelopes are very fast (and with the LFOs in env mode you can have 5 percussive envelopes at once), there's plenty of low end punch, and two multimode filters for fine-tuning the sounds. I'm not concerned about polyphony because I have other synths and I'm using a B, and if I want realistic drum sounds I just use a sample. For an example of the kick drum try http://www.access-music.de/files/audio/http://www.access-music.de/files/audio/v-clipse2.mp3 As for realistic cymbals, it's virtually impossible on analog gear (feel free to prove me wrong). Apparently Vince Clarke gave up on using cymbal sounds altogether rather than resort to samples. From: Zack Steinkamp Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus drum patches Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:23:17 -0700 excellent question! from my perspective, the Virus is quite capable of making percussive noises. The envelopes and LFO's (along with the PUNCH parameter) can be short enough to get a good, sharp WHACK out of any sound. As far as familiar drum sounds go, the Virus could conceivably make a good sounding 808 or 909 kick (heh heh), snare (well, almost), or tom-tom. I've built some other (non-Roland-esque) drumsounds with mine that I use quite a bit. BUT ... (and this is a big-ass butt) For most people, there's a few things holding them back from using a Virus as a drummachine .... 1) polyphony ... kick + snare + hat + cymbal + other rythmic stuff == half a Virus-a's polyphony. Better to use it for things like wooshy-cutting-jabbing-stabbing-dreamlike synthsouds that a Virus excels at. 2) realism ... if anyone has made a realistic cymbal patch (NOT like an 808 cymbal) with a Virus, please speak up! Certain kinds of common drumsounds (claps too, I guess), as short as their duration is, can be wickedly complex, particularly in terms of noise modulation and harmonic changes. Subtractive synthesis, as implemented on a Virus, doesn't do this very well. Usually what I'll do if I want to use a Virus drumsound in a track is to record the sound into my sampler, and use it (and its big polyphony) to play the drums. It all depends though, particularly if you want an constantly-changing sound that only the Virus can create. For a really good example of what a Virus is capable of, percussion-wise, you should listen to the 'Beatbox' demosong on the Access website... http://www.access-music.de/files/audio/demo_cd_beatbox.mp3 hope that helps zs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com At 01:43 5/3/00 -0400, you wrote: does anyone Know of a z1 mailing list? There's Z1-users at the KORG Prophecy mailinglist. Traffic is low and we accept eachothers (Prophecy vs Z1) postings (one happy family). Ofcourse some of us have the benefit of owning both synths ;-) Details for subscribing can be found at my website (address below). Byebye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nl could you please send a letter to the z1 list so i can find out if my signing on worked.. thankksWOW! Micke ... your sounds are just great! I stepped through all of them last night (there must be nearly 100 in there) and was *very* impressed with your ingenuity! Some of the things that you do with individual oscillators (e.g. Octane [i think that is the name]) are super-cool ... unlike anything I've heard out of my virus yet. thanks very much for sharing, and keep up the excellent work! zs On 00-05-03 20:13, Mikael Hansson wrote: >Hi all! > >I have uploaded some new sounds made for Virus A/B/KB. You can download them at the Sounds section at www.access-music.de in a while (they are called mhsounds.zip) or right away at http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-29128/mhsounds.zip > >Enjoy them and please tell me what you think! > >/Micke > >hammon@swipnet.se Hi! >Enjoy them and please tell me what you think! Well I really liked them! Favourites: A4, A6, A13, A21(!), A24, A28, A34, A37, A42, Thanx a lot! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298I don't know if it's said enough... Thanks for making such a fine product. Just in a general sense, not getting into specifics... it's just a lot of fun everytime I use it. The damn machine is fun. And thanks for continueing to push the envelope(s) :-) Having Fun, Kintama Anyone know? Or is it still unknown at this point?Ê I'm about to buy a B model cuz I've already got decent keys to control it. But if it has more capabilities than the B for the future (slightly more power for example) than I would wait a few months for it. Any chance of Access making a new kind of toy non-subtractive like? You guys (access) are so good at making toys/tools that seems with the conquering of analog sound you could do other kinds of instruments... love to have an instrument that is as easy and fun to use as my Virus but sounds trippy and atmospheric as my Kawai K5000s (except that my K5k is very cold and metalic... to distinct sounding). How about a classic style drum machine or analog sequencer? I wanna buy more Access products damn it !! :-) Other wishes... a Mac/PC frontend that puts all the power of the unit on the screen so patch creation is easier. The easier patch creation is the more patches we'll see floating around and supporting the Virus... good PR :-)ÊÊ Patch manager... Sound Diver is interface hell... but of course it is usable so its not THATÊ important... but sure would be nice. Online user manual with audio clips, patches, and animated or video tutorials (Rob Papen interviewed/demoing cool things). (maybe not justifiable with the cost of doing it, but it's a good idea I think.)... and the Access-List could work together to make a list of the most common questions and answers. If the Online Help system read HTML or something we could theoretically help you guys build it, and we could update it ourselves... Hell if someone is good at doing HTML we could do it now on our own. Just start a threat on "most asked questions" and someone turn that into a web page.... just a thought. I still think it would be cool to have animations and audio clips tho. Oscilloscope pics and stuff, but the audio clips would really be the coolest. The online help system could have a tech support form that you fill out and it auto emails, like online regsitration.... Also an online patch archive to upload/download too... and an MP3 upload area... growing potential would be song creation with friends online. Just some ideas to kick around, Kintama Hear, hear. The Virus is everything I wanted and more. It's not a product, it's a labor of love - thanks for all the hard work. From: "Kintama" Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: "access-list" Subject: Thanks Access Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:03:11 -0700 I don't know if it's said enough... Thanks for making such a fine product. Just in a general sense, not getting into specifics... it's just a lot of fun everytime I use it. The damn machine is fun. And thanks for continueing to push the envelope(s) :-) Having Fun, Kintama ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >I don't know if it's said enough... Thanks for making such a fine product. Just in a general sense, not getting into specifics... it's just a lot of fun everytime I use it. The damn machine is fun. And thanks for continueing to push the envelope(s) :-) Having Fun, Kintama< Yeah I love the Virus too...and I haven't even dented it's capabilities to be sure. I'm still having fun with the presets!! ;) I need some advice I think...I need to send the MIDI out of the Virus back into my computer to record knob movements, and also, I need to get 16 channels for each MIDI instrument. What is the best device for this? Do I really need a MOTU MIDI timpiece AV or can I get by with the MOTU MTP XT? Is this the proper way to simultaneously get 16 channels for each MIDi instrument and will this allow me to send MIDI back to the computer easily from the Virus B? Also, any word on how to hook up the vocoder? I would I connect my mixer (Mackie SR 24-4) to the Virus B to hear the vocoder in action, and is there a way to have this permanently ready to go? All help is appreciated... Thanks! Dan The Burke WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN >Hear, hear. The Virus is everything I wanted and more. It's not a product, it's a labor of love - thanks for all the hard work. The Virus is one of my smartest purchases I think...and what is funny is that I was initially turned off by the MP3's I heard online...the SuperNova website is so slick that I almost got swayed, not to say the SuperNova isn't killer, but the Virus is amazing. When I heard the thing live, and saw it was cheaper too, I was blown away. All this after I had researched many other synths from Nord, Novation, Waldorf, Roland, Korg, etc. I also love the fact that the Virus B comes in a desktop flavor, so it can sit right next to me, where it should be. I cannot abide with turning knobs all day on a rack, where my arm would just about fall off...but having the Virus B there next to me is so sweet...makes it up close and personal. An amazing machine...I am still a fan of sample players...but this analog sound is where my heart is and is the type of soud that used to sell me with samples players....I love how crazy and wicked this thing sounds! Dan The Burke WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN I need some advice I think...I need to send the MIDI out of the Virus back into my computer to record knob movements, and also, I need to get 16 channels for each MIDI instrument. What is the best device for this? This depends entirely on what other equipment you have. If you only have the Virus, then whatever you're currently using should be fine. There is no functional difference between a MOTU MidiExpress XT and MOTU MTP AV when it comes to MIDI routing capabilities, both provide an 8x8 (128 channel) matrix. A general 8x8 MIDI patchbay is a pretty handy thing in any home studio, but the cost may be excessive if you only need, say, 2 MIDI IN and 4 MIDI OUT. Brian I bought a Midi Solutions M8. It lets you take the MIDI OUT of 8 synths the the MIDI INS of the box, then a single MIDI OUT of the box to the MIDI IN of your sequencer. They make a 2 and 4 port version as well. www.midisolutions.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Hook To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Thanks Access > >>I need some advice I think...I need to send the MIDI out of the Virus back >>into my computer to record knob movements, and also, I need to get 16 channels for each MIDI instrument. What is the best device for this? > >This depends entirely on what other equipment you have. If you only have the Virus, then whatever you're currently using should be fine. There is no functional difference between a MOTU MidiExpress XT and MOTU MTP AV when >it comes to MIDI routing capabilities, both provide an 8x8 (128 channel) matrix. > >A general 8x8 MIDI patchbay is a pretty handy thing in any home studio, but >the cost may be excessive if you only need, say, 2 MIDI IN and 4 MIDI OUT. > >Brian > > At 07:03 PM 05/04/2000 -0700, you wrote: I don't know if it's said enough... Thanks for making such a fine product. Just in a general sense, not getting into specifics... it's just a lot of fun everytime I use it. The damn machine is fun. And thanks for continueing to push the envelope(s) :-) Having Fun, Kintama I'd also like to add to this - Access is definitely one of the best-run and customer-oriented music companies I've ever worked with, and I'm very happy to be an Access customer. The support for OS upgrades over the years has been superlative, as has been Access' involvement in its Internet community. I think its definitely the way things should be done, and I hope other businesses get into this as the way things should be done as well. Thanks! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html You're right, it's not said enough. Thanks guys! Cam (who's still using his old tired Virus A and still digging it) At 10:40 PM 5/4/00 -0700, you wrote: >At 07:03 PM 05/04/2000 -0700, you wrote: >>I don't know if it's said enough... Thanks for making such a fine product. Just in a general sense, not getting into specifics... it's just a lot of fun everytime I use it. >>The damn machine is fun. And thanks for continueing to push the envelope(s) :-) >>Having Fun, >>Kintama ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=I could not agree more. It is a blessing that Access are so passionate about this beastie that they continue to improve on an already superb product. This is without a doubt my most favorite synth ever. It will never leave my rack. Well until I have to get the next version :-) I don't know how I can live without the Indigo! Anyway, I am continually amazed at the brute flexibility of this engine. It has a unique character, and a diverse palette. They put so many of the features I wish my other synths would do, and then so much. Also, Access' involvement with the user base is second to none. I am glad to be a customer of such a fine company. Access Kicks Ass Baby... Rick > >I'd also like to add to this - Access is definitely one of the best-run and >customer-oriented music companies I've ever worked with, and I'm very happy >to be an Access customer. The support for OS upgrades over the years has been superlative, as has been Access' involvement in its Internet community. I think its definitely the way things should be done, and I hope other businesses get into this as the way things should be done as well. > >Thanks! > Hey kids. At the end of June, I will be playing my first live set with the Virus, an RM1x, and an ESI-32 sampler. I have played live before, but never in the electronic music vein (the last time I played live it was as a bass player for a full band). So, my question is this: does anyone have advice for someone about to embark on his first live gig? Electronica-specific advice, live-performance-in-general advice, I want it all! Cam PS for those of you who have checked out my MP3.com site in the past, or anyone who wants to, I have changed my name and the address of my site has changed accordingly. You can now find me at http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=every may fifth from now on we should all send e mails the christoph and the gang for beating out all their competition in customer support, all around synth value, and everything else we feel like pulling their german dicks about! may 5th access appreciation day! i love you guys(and gals) :^)there is something to be said about german business ethics. access is to synthesizers like bmw and mercedes is to auto.. know what i mean?Thanks for the advice, Mark and Brian... Yeah I think that pretty much settles that for me. Sounds like something like a MOTU or MIDI solution MIDI box will be what I am looking for, Cool, I would love to be able to hook my Viral up to my computer and get 16 tracks per instrument. Right now it's getting a bit crowded. Thanks! Dan The Burke WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN WwW.Burkestudios.com Get a big old oil drum, a belt sander, and welder's goggles. At the appropriate moment apply the sander to the oil drum - sparks will fly - everyone will go crazy. I saw some band do that 5-10 years ago... (Die Warzau???) JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam" To: Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:09 AM Subject: OT: Live Playing >Hey kids. > >At the end of June, I will be playing my first live set with the Virus, an RM1x, and an ESI-32 sampler. I have played live before, but never in the electronic music vein (the last time I played live it was as a bass player for a full band). > >So, my question is this: does anyone have advice for someone about to embark on his first live gig? Electronica-specific advice, live-performance-in-general advice, I want it all! > >Cam > >PS for those of you who have checked out my MP3.com site in the past, or anyone who wants to, I have changed my name and the address of my site has changed accordingly. You can now find me at > >http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to >=:-|= > > Hi everyone, Thought I might be the first to break the amazing news that Future Music have given the v3 Virus b 90% and a Gold Award to boot! The reviewer even sats that he finds the Nova and Supernova a bit characterless, and that the Virus has bags of character! The only gripes he has are that there is no reverb or random patch generator, and that the editing is a bit daunting for newcomers, but goes on to say that it has a unique sound, and is something of a cult classic! Just think what score they might have given the v4. -Ben Yeah! Now I'm really gonna do it...Recycle my A for the B! (250 dollars: good price I think) Greetings BeanOut of curiosity: What do they do with the A's ? If the price is favourable i might go for a Virus A myself :) >Yeah! > >Now I'm really gonna do it...Recycle my A for the B! (250 dollars: good price I think)Thanks for the Info. But lets not put all of our love and appreciation for the box in an award. I've seen it happen everytime where people equate greatness to an award, and then when they don't win they feel like loosers. And that sound like it's true when you read it.... but the fact is... The Virus was great before there was an award.Ê Awards can really mess up the moral at a company when people equate greatness to awards. I know the intent of the original email was good. And in fact the best part of this news is that the people who didn't know which they wanted will probably lean towards a Virus now, or open there mind up a bit more and at least study the Virus further. But for us current users, the Virus is no better than it was yesterday because of this gold award/rating... because then it means if we only got lets say a 79% with 4.0 we will be pissed, and upset, and think less of our wonderful little buddy and of the great company Access. The award is great in the sense it is recognized as great by the outsiders, but for everyone on the inside (Access, and the customers) I would be careful that you let the award pump you up, as your letting it program your mind to hate it when you don't get awards.ÊÊÊ Maybe this sounds dorky, but I really have seen this happen alot. ---------- Mod Matix.... On a side note I discovered the assign # /destination # of the matrix last night !!! I created the movie "evil" sound and it doesn't loop every 4 bars, it runs forever with no loop point. One LFO assigned to regulate another LFO which was assigned a parameter gave me the atmosphere feel I was looking for. Oh god this opened my mind up to all the possibilities for doing trippy ambient stuff that I didn't think the Virus could excel at. Currently I've just stumbled into it, and made good use of it, but I want to gain more control over it and come up with more, but last nights 5 patches were so neat... and the movie evil sound was dead nuts on... that sorta sound like strings/metal scraping/fingernails on black board/ low rumbling/ and yet screams in the distance as if you entered the cave to hell and you know there are people a quarter mile into it who are being tortured.... and the patch runs for minutes.Ê It should be said that I'm using V.V.E. front end on the Mac to make this stuff because I could never understand/get into it on that watch sized LCD and menu system directly on the Virus. (sorry but my mind is new to all this and can't get into that crazy submenu system... the controls on V V E are all on the surface so it "fits" in my mind better.) I wish to hell it was just a bit more refind software and the programmer would bring it up to the next level, its soooooo incredible (even as it stands right now... my programming is always in this software). He did a great job on it. I'm feeling really good about programming the Virus now, starting to actually set out with a goal of what I want to create and acheive that goal. (I'm not up there with Rob Papen... hahaha I need about ohhhh 25 more years of work before I get that far.) Howard Scar and Rob Papen are quite the insperation for me tho in my quest to make the Virus my bitch and do as I command. The mod matrix is my friend.... I Love this F-ing Machine !!!!!! Kintama PS I'll upload all my patches some day for you guys to review/use as I get more decent stuff created. The Virus is hooked up to my Mac and I don't have a util for patch managing on that, and not looking to buy one right now. Yeah I could do a bank dump but I need to organize it all, I don't like to put out something lacking polish. -----Original Message----- From: Cranes Music <info@cranesmusic.com> To: access-list@teklab.com <access-list@teklab.com> Date: Friday, May 05, 2000 5:39 AM Subject: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Hi everyone, Thought I might be the first to break the amazing news that Future Music have given the v3 Virus b 90% and a Gold Award to boot! The reviewer even sats that he finds the Nova and Supernova a bit characterless, and that the Virus has bags of character! The only gripes he has are that there is no reverb or random patch generator, and that the editing is a bit daunting for newcomers, but goes on to say that it has a unique sound, and is something of a cult classic! Just think what score they might have given the v4. -Ben At 8:39 AM -0700 on 05.05.2000 Kintama wrote: Thanks for the Info. But lets not put all of our love and appreciation for the box in an award. I've seen it happen everytime where people equate greatness to an award, and then when they don't win they feel like loosers. And that sound like it's true when you read it.... but the fact is... The Virus was great before there was an award. Well, I think the point here is that it was the Future Music that actually writes about and likes the Virus. Before they never gave it any good reviews and suddenly it all turned around... -- think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ At 03:56 PM 05/05/2000 +0200, you wrote: Yeah! Now I'm really gonna do it...Recycle my A for the B! (250 dollars: good price I think) Greetings Bean How do you do this? I've been thinking of upgrading to the B for a long time, didn't know there was some sort of trade-in program. Is there? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html >How do you do this? I've been thinking of upgrading to the B for a long time, didn't know there was some sort of trade-in program. Is there? > He Jay, If I'm well informed you are one of the guys from the company I love so how can you ask this question. Like is it serious? If it is: I contacted the dealer where I bought my A. I was very suprised by the price he told me to trade. (I contacted several shops in Holland). When I finish my Pro-Audio school in two weeks I'm gonna do it. I only have to wait till after my exams, otherwise I'm afraid I won't get a diploma.....This B really makes me mad. Beside/before the award by the way... Greetings BeanAt 07:39 PM 05/05/2000 +0200, you wrote: If I'm well informed you are one of the guys from the company I love so how can you ask this question. Like is it serious? Actually Bean, sorry to say this but I'm *not* part of Access at all, and have no involvement with them other than running the access-list for free, like I do a lot of my other mailing lists for musicians (http://www.teklab.com/Internet.html). I'm sorry for this confusion - I'm definitely *not* associated with Access Music at all. My only involvement with them (other than the list) is to have a cup of coffee each year with Christoph at NAMM! :) If it is: I contacted the dealer where I bought my A. I was very suprised by the price he told me to trade. (I contacted several shops in Holland). Okay, that makes sense. I bought my Virus 2 years ago though, so I don't think I'll be able to do a trade. No matter, I want to keep my Virus A anyway, and maybe buy a Virus Indigo when it comes out here in the US to accompany it. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html At 19:39 5/5/00 +0200, you wrote: >How do you do this? I've been thinking of upgrading to the B for a long time, didn't know there was some sort of trade-in program. Is there? > He Jay, If I'm well informed you are one of the guys from the company I love so how can you ask this question. Like is it serious? If it is: I contacted the dealer where I bought my A. I was very suprised by the price he told me to trade. (I contacted several shops in Holland). Hoi Martijn, Which shop is this? (you can contact me by email and in Dutch if you like: erol@xs4all.nl) Byebye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nl I am selling a MOTU pocket express. Single 2x4 MIDI/SMPTE interface This 2 IN, 4 OUT, 32-channel MIDI/SMPTE interface works with either your Macintosh or Windows computer. Fully independent, paired outputs provide 32 separate MIDI channels. And the Pocket Express's unique advantage in its price range: a computer bypass button allows you to play your MIDI gear even when the computer is turned off. Compatible with all Mac and Windows MIDI software. Includes full SMPTE synchronization capabilities in all formats, including jam-sync for trouble-free synchronization. And another Pocket Express unique advantage at its price: front panel SMPTE controls for fast, convenient striping and lockup. That was taken from MOTU's site, Anyway...$100.00 Dan At 13:36 5/5/00 +0100, you wrote: Hi everyone, Thought I might be the first to break the amazing news that Future Music have given the v3 Virus b 90% and a Gold Award to boot! The reviewer even sats that he finds the Nova and Supernova a bit characterless, I own both the Virus A and the SuperNova and you can believe me when I tell you they both have character ;-)) Bye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ at ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ chrono@xs4all.nlIMHO The Nova/Supernova blows compared to the Virus. Unless of course you like zipper noise and crappy F/X. Access is finally getting what they deserve...it was awarded an unfair 80% the first time around, so this IS good news! MzD From: Chrono Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 19:54:35 +0200 At 13:36 5/5/00 +0100, you wrote: Hi everyone, Thought I might be the first to break the amazing news that Future Music have given the v3 Virus b 90% and a Gold Award to boot! The reviewer even sats that he finds the Nova and Supernova a bit characterless, I own both the Virus A and the SuperNova and you can believe me when I tell you they both have character ;-)) Bye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Hi, Before starting a "MINE-YOURS"-war... I never experienced that dreaded zipper noise in my SNV. The only flaw until now is clicking in the synced delays with softer sounds. The final 3.0 OS is released any day now and should get rid of that.... Whatever, I like them both (Virus and SNV) for what I use them for ;-) Bye, Erik. At 18:08 5/5/00 +0000, you wrote: IMHO The Nova/Supernova blows compared to the Virus. Unless of course you like zipper noise and crappy F/X. Access is finally getting what they deserve...it was awarded an unfair 80% the first time around, so this IS good news! MzD From: Chrono Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 19:54:35 +0200 At 13:36 5/5/00 +0100, you wrote: Hi everyone, Thought I might be the first to break the amazing news that Future Music have given the v3 Virus b 90% and a Gold Award to boot! The reviewer even sats that he finds the Nova and Supernova a bit characterless, I own both the Virus A and the SuperNova and you can believe me when I tell you they both have character ;-)) Bye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nl In a message dated 5/5/00 2:22:29 AM, luxx@gru.net writes: >there is something to be said about german business ethics. >access is to synthesizers like >bmw and mercedes is to auto.. >know what i mean? > ABSOLUTELY. -MarshallKintama, Believe me, this was solely intended to share my surprise that the normally pro-Super/Nova magazine Future Music, that also hardly ever even mentions the Virus, let alone actually says anything positive about it, made these comments. For example, at Christmas they brought out a Future Music What Gear? edition, which failed to mention the Virus at all, apart from a listing in the buyer's guide, which (referring to the 'a' ) said 'Compared to other virtual analogues, this one doesn't really know where it's aimed'. This, despite the fact that they had a special article on their darling SuperNova (which was awarded 'synth of the year' by the readers) and had a list of alternatives at the end, mentioning nearly every VA on the market, except the Virus! Believe me also when I tell you that my opinion of the Virus, which is my favourite thing that I have ever bought, including my Kurzweil K2000 (which comes a close second), and even my house! would have remained the same whatever FM had written about it. All that would have changed if they had slated it, is that my opinion of FM would have sunk from low, to unbelievably low! As for a good review and an award having a detrimental effect on the attitude of Access Music to their product development, I really don't think we have much to worry about there, do you? They are bound to be already perfectly aware that they have a killer product in the Virus, it's just nice that that they have finally had the recognition they deserve from what is an undeniably popular music magazine. -Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Kintama To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 4:39 PM Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! and Mod Matrix Thanks for the Info. But lets not put all of our love and appreciation for the box in an award. I've seen it happen everytime where people equate greatness to an award, and then when they don't win they feel like loosers. And that sound like it's true when you read it.... but the fact is... The Virus was great before there was an award.Ê Hey Jay, Sorry to bother you again with this problem but it seems that I'm still not completely unsubscribed from the access-list. As I have exams very shortly I will be unable to check my mail and ot would be very convenient that I do not receive any more mails from this list. Otherwise I will have a mailbox exploding with muchos mailos. I thought you unsubscribed me a couple of days ago, so I do not understand why this isn't solved yet... I hope you can help me with the prob!!! because I'm getting quite desperate.. Thanks in advance, Valentijn P.S. Canine, if you receive this mail could you forward it to the list please. Thanx for all the help. --- Jay Vaughan wrote: >At 07:39 PM 05/05/2000 +0200, you wrote: >>If I'm well informed you are one of the guys from >the company I love so how >>can you ask this question. Like is it serious? > >Actually Bean, sorry to say this but I'm *not* part of Access at all, and >have no involvement with them other than running the access-list for free, >like I do a lot of my other mailing lists for musicians >(http://www.teklab.com/Internet.html). > >I'm sorry for this confusion - I'm definitely *not* associated with Access >Music at all. My only involvement with them (other than the list) is to >have a cup of coffee each year with Christoph at NAMM! :) > >>If it is: I contacted the >>dealer where I bought my A. I was very suprised by >the price he told me to >>trade. (I contacted several shops in Holland). > >Okay, that makes sense. I bought my Virus 2 years ago though, so I don't >think I'll be able to do a trade. No matter, I want to keep my Virus A >anyway, and maybe buy a Virus Indigo when it comes out here in the US to >accompany it. > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | >jay@teklab.com >TekLab | >http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] >IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} >[NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : >http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Fact. BeanDon't use headphones; they cut you off from the audience. If something is annoying in the house speakers, you will better be able to eliminate it. You will be able to pump the sound when necessary (you'll know when). Bring extra cables for EVERYTHING. Back up everything and have it all ready to go in case of badness. Use your own monitor, which you are intimately acquainted with. This will help you feel like you're in familiar surroundings. Bring two direct boxes for main outs (with backup batteries). Bring extra cables for EVERYTHING (especially SCSI and MIDI). Bring a good light to mount over face plates (clubs are dark). Bring food and water. Setups can be exhausting. Bring extra cables for EVERYTHING. Bring gaffing tape. It is like black masking tape. It is usually stronger than masking tape, but won't leave residue like duct tape will. This tape is used to tape wall warts and all other power cables to power strips and to tape cables down to the floor or stand. Possibly one of the cheapest, but most important tools of the trade. I realize you may already know much of this, having gigged in the past, but it never hurts to remind. Ciao, Dan Cam wrote: >Hey kids. > >At the end of June, I will be playing my first live set with the Virus, an RM1x, and an ESI-32 sampler. I have played live before, but never in the electronic music vein (the last time I played live it was as a bass player for a full band). > >So, my question is this: does anyone have advice for someone about to embark on his first live gig? Electronica-specific advice, live-performance-in-general advice, I want it all! > >Cam > >PS for those of you who have checked out my MP3.com site in the past, or anyone who wants to, I have changed my name and the address of my site has changed accordingly. You can now find me at > >http://www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the clockwork|v.01 website at www.mp3.com/clockwork_v01 join the clockwork mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to >=:-|=Question 1: Yes it can. But the problem is, the adress is in Holland. (Europe :) Don't think those guys at the store are waiting for 200 Virus A-users who want to trade it for the B + 250$..... Also don't think you will take the risk to send your A to Holland. We're bastards you know.... Greetings BeanHello all, Two Q's to be A'd-- First: I have heard a couple mentions on the list of trading in a virus a with $250 for a virus b. Is this possible? Second: I understand that the virus uses sampled waveforms as oscillators, but I wondered: are all virus patches created from the same blank slate? In other words, can any virus patch be edited back to the original -START- sin wave?The Virus osc has standard waveforms (saw, pulse), as well as 64 static (sampled) spectral waveshapes. I'm not exactly sure what method they use to generate the VA waveforms, but they are dynamic like on a real analog. Yes, you can start with a blank slate. One of the last patches in bank C is a "Start Patch" BTW: The Sine waveshape is located in the spectral waveshape group... Rick > >Second: I understand that the virus uses sampled waveforms as oscillators, but I wondered: are all virus patches created from the same blank slate? In other words, can any virus patch be edited back to the original -START- sin wave? > So, 90% eh? I guess that vaguely means for every 10 things they liked there was one thing they didn't. So out of curiosity, what were some of the things they didn't like? -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius From: Chrono Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 19:54:35 +0200 At 13:36 5/5/00 +0100, you wrote: Hi everyone, Thought I might be the first to break the amazing news that Future Music have given the v3 Virus b 90% and a Gold Award to boot! The reviewer even sats that he finds the Nova and Supernova a bit characterless, I own both the Virus A and the SuperNova and you can believe me when I tell you they both have character ;-)) Bye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com I can't answer for Future Music, but I can definitely tell you some of the things I would really like with the Virus (I have an 'a', so some of this is likely already in 'b', Indigo, and upcoming Rack): - 1/4" balanced TRS outputs - SPDIF input/output (with associated wordclock input) - more voices - internal power supply! - "sync on MIDI" options for just about everything that is timing dependent (LFO, delay, etc.) If I could have a SuperVirus, it would be: - rack mount w/ jacks on back - 32 MIDI channel (MIDI A and MIDI B) - 32 voice polyphonic - 32 part multitimbral - balanced analog inputs on back and front - 8 balanced 1/4" TRS analog outputs (MAIN, SUB1, SUB2, SUB3) - ADAT output with 8 independent outputs Brian >-----Original Message----- >From: dennis_schissler@hp.com [mailto:dennis_schissler@hp.com] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:21 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! > > > >So, 90% eh? I guess that vaguely means for every 10 things they liked there was >one thing they didn't. So out of curiosity, what were some of the things they >didn't like? > >-Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgenius >- 1/4" balanced TRS outputs >- SPDIF input/output (with associated wordclock input) - more voices >- internal power supply! yesssssssssssss..... >- "sync on MIDI" options for just about everything that is timing dependent (LFO, delay, etc.) you've already got this. just send midi clock thru to the virus, and your LFOs, delay, and arpeggiator sync up. zsGlad you liked them :) Just put my Virus out for sale.... ....to buy a Virus B. Well the Indigo looks very nice but I like the desktop. Btw, I posted the sounds on Canine«s website and on Teklab«s www.samplelibrary.net as well. /Micke >WOW! > >Micke ... your sounds are just great! > >I stepped through all of them last night (there must be nearly 100 in there) and was *very* impressed with your ingenuity! > >Some of the things that you do with individual oscillators (e.g. Octane [i think that is the name]) are super-cool ... unlike anything I've heard out of my virus yet. > >thanks very much for sharing, and keep up the excellent work! > >zs > > >On 00-05-03 20:13, Mikael Hansson wrote: >>Hi all! >> >>I have uploaded some new sounds made for Virus A/B/KB. You can download them at the Sounds section at www.access-music.de in a while (they are called mhsounds.zip) or right away at http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-29128/mhsounds.zip >> >>Enjoy them and please tell me what you think! >> >>/Micke >> >>hammon@swipnet.se >> > Is there any advantage to waiting to buying the Indigo over the Virus Kb? It just seems aesthetics to me? Id love to know. Yours Warwick Yeah - I loved the patches as well - nice work and thanks! As for the Indigo - I am so torn. From what I can tell it is just a step between Virus B and Virus KB with no additional features. I've already got a keyboard so why do I need an Indigo??? Well, I don't but I just want one dammit! It looks so nice... Hmmmm... -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Some new sounds uploaded Author: Non-HP-hammon (hammon@swipnet.se) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/5/00 4:41 PM Glad you liked them :) Just put my Virus out for sale.... ....to buy a Virus B. Well the Indigo looks very nice but I like the desktop. Btw, I posted the sounds on Canine's website and on Teklab's www.samplelibrary.net as well. /Micke >WOW! > >Micke ... your sounds are just great! > >I stepped through all of them last night (there must be nearly 100 in there) a nd was *very* impressed with your ingenuity! > >Some of the things that you do with individual oscillators (e.g. Octane [i thi nk that is the name]) are super-cool ... unlike anything I've heard out of my vi rus yet. > >thanks very much for sharing, and keep up the excellent work! > >zs > > >On 00-05-03 20:13, Mikael Hansson wrote: >>Hi all! >> >>I have uploaded some new sounds made for Virus A/B/KB. You can download them at the Sounds section at www.access-music.de in a while (they are called mhsounds.zip) or right away at http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-29128/mhsounds.zip >> >>Enjoy them and please tell me what you think! >> >>/Micke >> >>hammon@swipnet.se >> > Well, based on data from their Web site, it looks like the Indigo is simply a cooler looking version of the Virus kb with fewer keys. My bigger concern is that the Virus rack looks like it has less power than a Virus 'a' -- 8 part multitimbral vs. 16-part in the 'a'. Brian THANKS - 2 hours late, but better than never! Sh~t did that one cause havock! ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zaThe Indigo seams to have drum maps, something the Virus B/kb doesn't. Merk PS: maybe I ate a mushroom but I'm not certain about the drum maps...Zack, Thanks !!!! On the hrfrid.mp3 the drums are from a Roland TD-5 electronic drum set (I used to be a drummer so thats what I play on these days). There is No guitar used (I have one but it is more fun to fake it with the virus...hehehe). Those guitar-like sounds are a combination Virus b and a Roland JP-8080 playing the same notes simultaneously. The Bass is pure Virus b (one of the ZZ-Bass patches if I remember correctly). All sequenced using Cakewalk 9. dg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zack Steinkamp" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Some more songs >hey DG > >your sounds are pretty damn cool > >please give us some detail on hrfid ... drums? is that a guitar? is the Virus giving the buzzy-bassline? > >;-) > >keep on truckin >zs > >On 00-04-22 00:23, dg wrote: >>Here are some tunes that I did using the Virus b and other stuff. I am looking for some friendly criticism :) (I only do this as a hobby, so dont be too harsh). >> >>http://208.188.80.49/hrfrid.mp3 >> >>Yet another . >> >>http://208.188.80.49/feedback.mp3 >> >>and another .. >> >>http://208.188.80.49/dancesun.mp3 >> >>and a couple more..... >>http://208.188.80.49/latethur.mp3 >>http://208.188.80.49/dramatik.mp3 >> >>Thanks, >> >>dg When I first built my home studio I bought Yamaha SP5 powered speakers. They work great, but obviously there is minimal bass. Should I get either Mackie HR824 speaker, new Yamaha SP10 speakers, or?! Both have 8" woofers but I don't know if that's enough bang-for-the-buck.. The Mackie's are about $1k/pair and Yamaha $1200/pair. All my synth are going into a Mackie 1402. Thanks, Mark ive got a pair of Event 20/20 biamped monitors, and theyre fucking badass and only cost about $800 or so. their bass is very very nice and powerful. tom Mark Holloway wrote: > >When I first built my home studio I bought Yamaha SP5 powered speakers. >They work great, but obviously there is minimal bass. Should I get either >Mackie HR824 speaker, new Yamaha SP10 speakers, or?! Both have 8" woofers >but I don't know if that's enough bang-for-the-buck.. The Mackie's are about >$1k/pair and Yamaha $1200/pair. All my synth are going into a Mackie 1402. > >Thanks, >Mark -- get off my dick.event 20 20's are nice.. but i still have to go with alesis monitor ones... mike g..I use Mackie HR824s and have friends with them and I'm extremely happy with them. >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Holloway [mailto:mholloway@flashmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 10:16 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: OT: Decent Bass > > >When I first built my home studio I bought Yamaha SP5 powered speakers. They work great, but obviously there is minimal bass. Should I get either Mackie HR824 speaker, new Yamaha SP10 speakers, or?! Both have 8" woofers but I don't know if that's enough bang-for-the-buck.. The Mackie's are about >$1k/pair and Yamaha $1200/pair. All my synth are going into a Mackie 1402. > >Thanks, >Mark > > > i dont mean to start a war here or anything. but the hr824's are the WORD in affordable audio monitors. read the manual...and then listenI've had a pair of HR824's for nearly a year now, and I'm still in awe of their capability. I'm not aware of another speaker that uses their passive radiator scheme in place of wheezing, breathing ports. EVERYTHING is so tight with them ... and the bass, THE BASS. Truly excellent products. Other speakers (particularly those with bass ports) sound weak in comparison. Mackie is a company like Access ... all they want to do is to make the best products they can think of, and sell them at fair prices. -zs On 00-05-05 22:16, Mark Holloway wrote: >When I first built my home studio I bought Yamaha SP5 powered speakers. They work great, but obviously there is minimal bass. Should I get either Mackie HR824 speaker, new Yamaha SP10 speakers, or?! Both have 8" woofers but I don't know if that's enough bang-for-the-buck.. The Mackie's are about $1k/pair and Yamaha $1200/pair. All my synth are going into a Mackie 1402. > >Thanks, >Mark Hi, I used to own a Virus A and the Virus Rack looks nice. It would look very sexy if it had the same color LCD and LED's as the Indigo. But anyway, to the Access guys: Is there any chance of you guys puttin an ADAT out port on a future Virus so people can run up to 8 channels of sweet virus sound into many digital mixers, cards? The less cables we have in the future the better. bioroid >So, 90% eh? I guess that vaguely means for every 10 things they liked there was >one thing they didn't. So out of curiosity, what were some of the things they >didn't like? I think the main gripe was just that it seemed a bit too deep on the editing front for some people, but this wasn't really made out to be a big negative, just something to be considered if you aren't into programming. (Why would you buy a synth with so many knobs on if you weren't into turning them I wonder?) As far as I remember ( I try not to buy FM, I normally just flick through it in the newsagents ) the things they mentioned as lacking were two things that are coming in the next OS, namely reverb, and a random patch generator, and one that it already has - a MIDI thru. Doh! You could even see it had a thru on the accompanying photo! Makes you wonder. -Ben. >I am selling a MOTU pocket express. > >Single 2x4 MIDI/SMPTE interface > >This 2 IN, 4 OUT, 32-channel MIDI/SMPTE interface works with either your Macintosh or Windows computer. > >Fully independent, paired outputs provide 32 separate MIDI channels. And the Pocket Express's unique advantage in its price range: a computer bypass button allows you to play your MIDI gear even when the computer is turned off. > >Compatible with all Mac and Windows MIDI software. Includes full SMPTE synchronization capabilities in all formats, including jam-sync for trouble-free synchronization. And another Pocket Express unique advantage at its price: front panel SMPTE controls for fast, convenient striping and lockup. > >That was taken from MOTU's site, > >Anyway...$100.00 > >Dan > > > All those other monitors u guys suggest sound terrible to my ears.Monitor 1's...oooooo mid range is honky- yuk--Event's hmm the bottom is flabby an the mid to top correlation is a bit sickening .The HDR-8's are the best sounding to my ears,smooth tops an mids .... bass sounds nice also. Although ,I still I think there is a bit to much bottom end in the HDR-8's. Perhaps u should give the KRK V8's a listen .They possess a very smooth frequency response across the entire spectrum.... Evaluate all these different monitors side by side with material u are familiar with. When u can reference these monitors to each other u soon can tell what sounds the best. Only your ears can be the judge. Me....well Genelec 1032A are the bizniz...short of those ,i'd take the KRK V8's without question. TaRG¯N Hi everyone, Thought I might be the first to break the amazing news that Future Music have given the v3 Virus b 90% and a Gold Award to boot! The reviewer even sats that he finds the Nova and Supernova a bit characterless, and that the Virus has bags of character! The only gripes he has are that there is no reverb or random patch generator, and that the editing is a bit daunting for newcomers, but goes on to say that it has a unique sound, and is something of a cult classic! Just think what score they might have given the v4. -Ben Great ,now every flog that reads FM will go out an buy one an we can all be the same...... Sometimes I just wish unique little things in life ,like the ViRUS are kept quiet. TaRG¯NAt 08:31 PM 05/06/2000 +0930, you wrote: Great ,now every flog that reads FM will go out an buy one an we can all be the same...... Sometimes I just wish unique little things in life ,like the ViRUS are kept quiet. TaRG¯N I think the whole reason why so many people love the Virus so much is that it's possible to create *very* unique sounds with it, very rapidly. It's a very unique instrument. Sure, it has its own particular flavor, and you can spot a Virus (preset use) in a song fairly easily, but if you're a synthesist it's one hell of a machine for making very unique and expressive sounds. So I wouldn't be too worried about all the flogs buying them - most of them will just use the presets anyway. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html Maybr FM will have a press release next issue about OS4 featuring Reverb and Random Patch Generator and say that Access is listening to Future Music! Cranes Music wrote: >>So, 90% eh? I guess that vaguely means for every 10 things they liked >there was >>one thing they didn't. So out of curiosity, what were some of the things >they >>didn't like? > >I think the main gripe was just that it seemed a bit too deep on the editing front for some people, but this wasn't really made out to be a big negative, just something to be considered if you aren't into programming. (Why would you buy a synth with so many knobs on if you weren't into turning them I wonder?) >As far as I remember ( I try not to buy FM, I normally just flick through it in the newsagents ) the things they mentioned as lacking were two things that are coming in the next OS, namely reverb, and a random patch generator, and one that it already has - a MIDI thru. Doh! You could even see it had a thru on the accompanying photo! Makes you wonder. > >-Ben. ----- Original Message ----- From: Targon To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 12:01 PM Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! >Great ,now every flog that reads FM will go out an buy one an we can all be the same...... Sometimes I just wish unique little things in life ,like the ViRUS are kept quiet. >TaRG¯N Yeah, sure we'll all be the same, but only if we all use the factory presets and nothing else. Aside from it being great fun, and very rewarding, this is the main reason that I am motivated to eventually replace all of the presets with my own creations. The Virus is so flexible in it's character, that there is ample opportunity to make it your own. If the Virus really was 'unique' then Christoph would be the only person who owned one; as it is, more Virus buyers simply means more R & D funds available to the developers, and more mileage in the products lifespan, so that hopefully the OS upgrades will keep coming and we all benefit. . I must admit though, that the thought of being one of a lucky few who actually own one of these instruments is very appealing, as the less users there are, the easier it is for my music to sound different. However, when it comes down to it, it's up to each individual musician to make his/her instrument speak in their own voice. Think of the variety achieved from an instrument such as the piano over the centuries, or the Fender Stratocaster, or the tenor saxophone. None of these, on paper have anything like the sonic flexibility that the Virus has, but peopleÊmanage to make unique music to this day, using these relatively simple instruments. -Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Targon To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 12:01 PM Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! >Great ,now every flog that reads FM will go out an buy one an we can all be the same...... Sometimes I just wish unique little things in life ,like the ViRUS are kept quiet. >TaRG¯N Yeah, sure we'll all be the same, but only if we all use the factory presets and nothing else. Aside from it being great fun, and very rewarding, this is the main reason that I am motivated to eventually replace all of the presets with my own creations. The Virus is so flexible in it's character, that there is ample opportunity to make it your own. If the Virus really was 'unique' then Christoph would be the only person who owned one; as it is, more Virus buyers simply means more R & D funds available to the developers, and more mileage in the products lifespan, so that hopefully the OS upgrades will keep coming and we all benefit. . I must admit though, that the thought of being one of a lucky few who actually own one of these instruments is very appealing, as the less users there are, the easier it is for my music to sound different. However, when it comes down to it, it's up to each individual musician to make his/her instrument speak in their own voice. Think of the variety achieved from an instrument such as the piano over the centuries, or the Fender Stratocaster, or the tenor saxophone. None of these, on paper have anything like the sonic flexibility that the Virus has, but peopleÊmanage to make unique music to this day, using these relatively simple instruments. -Ben The only down side to uniqueness is that they would have to have prices worse than Waldorf. (I wonder if Waldorf prices are arbitrarily set high for the purpose of 'prestige', or if they just don't sell much... maybe a little of both?) I think the Virus is partly the result of things being to "samey". And it's possible that with it's popularity it will saturate the planet and get old. But I suspect Access is smart and they make products people want. Soon as people want uniqueness again Access will start a new genre of something, or at least see the trend of what people are starting to buy, and build that "thing" better. For Example... the Virus is one of the best (in my opinion the best) VA synth, but it wasn't the first. I don't think we have anything to worry about. I think that we can't sit back and just blame Access for our own sound not being unique enough either (not saying anyone is blaming them). My point is If we want to be unique artists, I think it's our responsiblity as artists to be that. To be unique artists have to always be jumping around from one thing to the next... not to become to attached to one thing or we loose that edge. The unique artists sometimes are the pioneers, and with that comes a desire for newer sounds and possibly different audio gear. Really how unique sounding is the Virus? It's designed to simulate gear from the 70's and 80's isn't it? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, so it's a genuine question.) I certainly keeps it's tuning, and works with midi wonderfully, and is unique in the regaurd that if you buy/use it you are using more than one instrument you are using many popular instruments from this era. But it isn't a "new" sound. As a side note, I do want to hear a "new" sound. Like watching the Matrix with there "bullet time" effects, or Jurrasic Park... these were visuals that were new and unique... things I hadn't seen before. But I feel like my audio senses are a bit neglected of newness where my visual senses are always seeing something new. The K5000s makes the most "out there" sounds that I know of, but the downside is I haven't figured out how to use it with the styles of music I like when I do get one of those sounds that seems unheard... maybe part of being having a "new" sound that hasn't been heard is making a new genre of music.Ê So here I've come full circle. We want to be unique, but while beating on a plywood sheet for percussive sounds is certainly unique it's hardly what people want to hear... what tends to be the trend is generally not too unique. I think it comes down to not getting to attached to any tool we choose, and just pushing our talent to the limits... our personal desire to be unique will drive us to be that, the gear may inspire it, but I don't think it will drive it. The ball is in our own court. Just some thoughts. (not meant to attack any previous posters. It's a good subject) Kintama PS I really would love to hear a sound that I never heard before. I think the THX sound was the only single sound that ever seemed to make me feel "wow that was something I've not heard before" the first time I heard it. Pop music of the eightys was a new music style that made me go wow, as did the Rave sound of '92 when I came back to the US after being out for 6 years. Both genres of music tho had entirely new sound generators to inspire them to create new music.... damn I'm slipping back into the cycle of the topic again... shutting up now. >Great ,now every flog that reads FM will go out an buy one an we can all be the same...... >Sometimes I just wish unique little things in life ,like the ViRUS are kept quiet. as long as folks think that the most important part of music is what gear it's composed on, folks aren't making music. Remember back in the day when all there was were DX7's? Or M1s? Or Minimoogs? Did everyone's music sound the same? My advice, and take this with a grain of salt, is to stop worrying so much about feeling as if you're in some secret 'in the know' society and just make what comes through you. If you have a Virus, all the better. But I guarantee that a JP8080 or FutureRetro 777 in the hands of someone more concerned with music will sound better. Gear is cool, but it doesn't set you free. zsSo- Who does one contact to trade in a Virus a for a virus b (or, if possible, an indigo or kb)?>Who does one contact to trade in a Virus a for a virus b (or, if possible, an indigo or kb)? Try your local dealer. Tried mine. Worked out pretty well...I will make the deal in a 1.5 week. You can understand the glitter in my eyes... Greetings BeanHello, my name is Eric and I am new to the list. This is my first post. I'm from the USA and one of my questions is.. where are some places in the USA that carry and sell the Access Virus? Where is the best place to get them here? Also.. does anybody have any extra information on the new Virus Indigo other than what is on the Access website? That synth is very cool and I would like to get my hands on it. IMMEDIATELY! Anybody know how much US dollars that's going to cost me? Does it have anything extra that the other Virus boards don't? Or does it lack features that the other boards have? Thanks! Eric. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com where do you live ? - 21 - wrote: >Hello, my name is Eric and I am new to the list. This is my first post. I'm from the USA and one of my questions is.. where are some places in the USA that carry and sell the Access Virus? Where is the best place to get them here? > >Also.. does anybody have any extra information on the new Virus Indigo other than what is on the Access website? That synth is very cool and I would like to get my hands on it. IMMEDIATELY! Anybody know how much US dollars that's going to cost me? Does it have anything extra that the other Virus boards don't? Or does it lack features that the other boards have? > >Thanks! > >Eric. >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.comwhere do you live ? Southern Virginia, USA There's a Mars here (which has nothing) and on the 11th of May a Guitar Center is opening up only a block away from Mars. I've heard Guitar Center is known for carrying weird stuff from time to time. That true? Eric - 21 - wrote: >Hello, my name is Eric and I am new to the list. This is my first post. I'm from the USA and one of my questions is.. where are some places in the USA that carry and sell the Access Virus? Where is the best place to get them here? > >Also.. does anybody have any extra information on the new Virus Indigo other than what is on the Access website? That synth is very cool and I would like to get my hands on it. IMMEDIATELY! Anybody know how much US dollars that's going to cost me? Does it have anything extra that the other Virus boards don't? Or does it lack features that the other boards have? > >Thanks! > >Eric. >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Washington Music centre in the DC area is the closest dealer that I know of ask for James Doerpler in Keys - 21 - wrote: >>where do you live ? > >Southern Virginia, USA > >There's a Mars here (which has nothing) and on the 11th of May a Guitar Center is opening up only a block away from Mars. I've heard Guitar Center is known for carrying weird stuff from time to time. That true? > >Eric > >>- 21 - wrote: >> >>>Hello, my name is Eric and I am new to the list. This is my first post. I'm from the USA and one of my questions is.. where are some places in >>the >>>USA that carry and sell the Access Virus? Where is the best place to >>get >>>them here? >>> >>>Also.. does anybody have any extra information on the new Virus Indigo other than what is on the Access website? That synth is very cool and I would like to get my hands on it. IMMEDIATELY! Anybody know how much >>US >>>dollars that's going to cost me? Does it have anything extra that the >>other >>>Virus boards don't? Or does it lack features that the other boards >>have? >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Eric. >>>________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >> > >________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.comI have been having a strange occurance with my Virus B. I'm running V3.0b, and sometimes when I make a sound and then store it, when I return to that sound after a fresh power-up, or browsing through other sounds, the sound that I saved will be horribly un-pitched. Re-tuning the osc's doesn't help, and a system reset doesn't fix it either. Can anyone out there tell me why this might be happening? Has anyone else had the same problem before? Thanx, Brooks ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com well i have this problem too but it happens even before i save. i lean over my k2500 to get to the virus.. so sometimes my elbows hit the ribbon.. then the virus's pitch is screwed and i have to start over. i dont know..I might have said before that I had a Virus kb; it wasn't true. I still don't have one and reading all this info makes me pitch a tent in my brane! I believe that the box will be arriving on Tuesday... 72hrs of pain. The worse is I have purchased 2 other pieces of gear to use the Virus and MicrowaveXT with; an Akai Headrush (I am now pissed because I should have gone for the Line6 green delay that has reverse delay) and Sseyo Koan software. I can't wait to use this as a sub-setup from the rest of my gear. Merk aka: markIn a message dated 5/6/00 8:00:14 PM, zs@yahoo-inc.com writes: >Remember back in the day when all there was were DX7's? Or M1s? Did everyone's music sound the same? Maybe not but it surely sucked deep crap! I am talking top 40's late 80s early 90s. Merk aka: markIIIn a message dated 5/6/00 8:00:14 PM, zs@yahoo-inc.com writes: >Gear is cool, but it doesn't set you free. > This is romantic but if you hit your face against the world it's nice to have good gear to fall on/substitute gear for ? Merk aka: Mark IIOn Sat, 06 May 2000 21:49:31 CDT, "brooks rongstad" wrote: >and a system reset doesn't fix it either. Can anyone out there tell me why this might be happening? Has anyone else had the same problem before? Are you using the mod matrix to control pitch? I've noticed that sometimes that settings which should be "temporarily changed" due to a mod matrix setting actually seem to modify the patch. If, for example, I set my Kaoss pad to control the filter, I am very careful not to touch the pad until I've saved the patch away or this performance change becomes permanent. May be related? Paul> >Yes it can. But the problem is, the adress is in Holland. (Europe :) Do you have the address ? phone number ? Cheers Dimitriwell, newbie as i am, can't find a way to re-name patches. anybody got a suggestion ? thanx----- Original Message ----- From: ebb To: Virus Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 12:40 PM Subject: naming patches ? >well, newbie as i am, can't find a way to re-name patches. anybody got a suggestion ? > >thanx > > Read the manual!!:) You just press store, and go to the right with the parameter keys. Use the value knob to find the right characters. Press store when done..... jon k. well, loke i said, newbie question ;-D thanx a lot end of thread on 7/05/00 13:27, Jon k. at kjellemy@online.no wrote: > >----- Original Message ----- >From: ebb >To: Virus >Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 12:40 PM >Subject: naming patches ? > > >>well, newbie as i am, can't find a way to re-name patches. anybody got a suggestion ? >> >>thanx >> >> > >Read the manual!!:) You just press store, and go to the right with the parameter keys. Use the value knob to find the right characters. Press store when done..... > >jon k. > Okay...I've spent the whole morning trying to find out what the source of my 'unpitched' saving problem is, and here goes: All seems well when I save a patch; I'll go browsing through other sounds, power off, etc..and sometimes nothing bad happens. Other times when I power on, or switch sounds, I'll come back to a saved sound, and it will be horribly out of pitch. Here is what is happening: I almost always build my patches from A 127 -Start-. The Keyfollow setting on Osc 1&2 are defaulted to +32...I always leave them there. When this 'unpitched' anomaly occurs, it is because, for some unknown reason, the Keyfollow on Osc 1 has been changed to, say +9 or something. Even though I saved the sound with the Keyfollow set to +32, it gets changed during the patch changing or power-up. Resetting the Keyfollow on Osc 1 to +32 magically brings my patch back to life. Now: I can deal with faults in a machine when I know how to correct the problem, but WHY does the Virus B do this? I'm running V3.0 b; and I did have this problem a while back before I put the new software in, but now it happens more frequently. Is this a known bug? Is it just a strange occurance from changing patches too quickly? I'd really like to know, because this WILL be a problem for playing live. Do I need a repair on my unit or something? Help! Thanx, Brooks ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com On Sun, 07 May 2000 11:33:24 CDT, "brooks rongstad" wrote: >Keyfollow on Osc 1 has been changed to, say +9 or something. Even though I saved the sound with the Keyfollow set to +32, it gets changed during the patch changing or power-up. Resetting the Keyfollow on Osc 1 to +32 magically brings my patch back to life. Hmm, checkout whether some other piece of gear might be sending this controller - OK I'm assuming you have the Virus connected to the rest of your system. Sounds like this is the area to explore. Paul----- Original Message ----- From: Zack Steinkamp To: Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 8:59 PM Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! >>Great ,now every flog that reads FM will go out an buy one an we can all be the same...... >>Sometimes I just wish unique little things in life ,like the ViRUS are kept quiet. > >as long as folks think that the most important part of music is what gear it's composed on, folks aren't making music. > >Remember back in the day when all there was were DX7's? Or M1s? Or Minimoogs? Did everyone's music sound the same? > > Exactly. Two people that come to mind who have managed to carve their own niches in the electronica scene are Brian Eno, and Mike Paradinas (aka Muziq, Jake Slazenger). Brian Eno creates the majority of his sounds on the DX7, and Mike uses an old Roland D50. Eno was, and probably still is one of the only people to figure out how to program a DX7 really well, and when talking about his D50, Mike Paradinas mentioned that he had owned it since he was about 14, and 'knew every nook and cranny' of that synth. Knowledge is power! -Ben >>Remember back in the day when all there was were DX7's? Or M1s? Did everyone's music sound the same? > >Maybe not but it surely sucked deep crap! I am talking top 40's late 80s early 90s. was there ever a time when top 40 *didn't* suck deep crap? ;-) zs>There's a Mars here (which has nothing) and on the 11th of May a Guitar Center is opening up only a block away from Mars. I've heard Guitar Center is known for carrying weird stuff from time to time. That true? guitar center can special order one if they don't have any in stock. don't expect great customer service, though... as to getting an Indigo, I'd imagine there will be quite a wait for them... zsas to getting an Indigo, I'd imagine there will be quite a wait for them... zs Why? Because it'll be a while before it's out? When's it scheduled for release? I've heard July. Or because too many people will grab them? Are they that anticipated? Eric ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >>>Remember back in the day when all there was were DX7's? Or M1s? Did everyone's music sound the same? >> >>Maybe not but it surely sucked deep crap! I am talking top 40's late 80s early 90s. > >was there ever a time when top 40 *didn't* suck deep crap? > >;-) >zs > I suspect this is a topic for the music bar, but I have to add my 2 cents while it's in my mail box... I frequently see people on the list slaming top 40 music. But, keep in mind... of the people listinging modern electronic music, there are more listeners that like the top forty than songs that didn't make top 40. Radio makes alot of money selling advertising time as a result of the demand for top 40. If everyone in that catagory liked what we do, then we too would be in the top forty... does that mean we'd suddenly suck because we made it? I don't nesessarily think that every band sets out to be top forty, some just become it. I do think most bands probably want to be liked... where does the line of "wanting to be liked" stop though... this side of the top 40 or the other? I used to love top 40 back in the 80's and early 90's. I think lots of people here do too, they just don't admit it.. people wanting that "mentasm" sound that was used in all those top 40 songs they listed haha... but of course they didn't listen to the top 40... and they didn't like the top 40 enough to want the sound ;-) I'd place bets that most of us loved the Eurytmics. I even admit to liking Duran Duran, 2 unilimited, Erasure, and Pet Shop Boys to name a few of the many top 40 bands I like... they inspired me to get into making synth music, I feel no shame in saying so. And I would classify some of you guys in that same catagory of people that inspire me whose music I love to listen too. FiberOptik, Cam/Freon, SubGenius and many more. I think many of you guys here are so good I'd buy your CDs... maybe millions of people feel the same, and you'd "unfortunately " find yourselves in the top 40. hehe. Top forty just means your popular enough that companies are willing to buy advertising time while your song gets "air time". I don't think it means you have to suck. Yanni's not in the top 40. (least I don't think he's ever made it... I could be wrong.) Does that mean he doens't suck? (not to bag on the guy, I actually do like his music too... I don't like his stage presence... but do like listening to it once in a while.) Just my two cents. :-) James kintama@jps.net In a message dated 5/7/00 7:30:54 PM, zs@yahoo-inc.com writes: >was there ever a time when top 40 *didn't* suck deep crap? You are right, I probably was trying to say there was not much good music being done with M1s or U20s in those days. It was a hard time because things where changing. Mark IIYup, I work for a Guitar Center. We most definately carry the Virus. Not every one of our stores will have it in stock, but Access is good about getting special orders delivered quickly. We will price match...the lowest I've seen on the Virus B is around $1200-1250. Good luck. There's a Mars here (which has nothing) and on the 11th of May a Guitar Center is opening up only a block away from Mars. I've heard Guitar Center is known for carrying weird stuff from time to time. That true? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >There's a Mars here (which has nothing) and on the 11th of May a Guitar Center is opening up only a block away from Mars. I've heard Guitar Center >is known for carrying weird stuff from time to time. That true? > >Eric I bought my Virus B at Guitar Center. They have everything, though they will probably be a bit crowded. Sam ash has a decent selection too, though I've never seen a Virus B at Sam Ash. You can also do mail order, save tax and perhaps get a deal on shipping. (Save tax if you order from a state other than your own). Dan The Burke NukleoN www.mp3.com/Nukleon Hi people, >Well, I think the point here is that it was the Future Music that actually writes about and likes the Virus. Before they never gave it any good reviews and suddenly it all turned around... Future Music is a 'advertorial' magazine full of glossy pictures. It has little useful or objective information, once you've read a few issues and understand their level of thinking. So, if they suddenly give an award, does it really matter? Cheers, Thomas and it's exspensive as hell>Future Music is a 'advertorial' magazine full of glossy pictures. It has little useful or objective information, once you've read a few issues and understand their level of thinking. > >So, if they suddenly give an award, does it really matter? Completely right Thomas. Greetings BeanVery nicely put zs! I too have had thoughts of wanting to keep the Virus secret but in the end it all comes down to the abilities of the artist. Having cool gear like the Virus definitely makes things easier, but is seems clear that having it in the mix won't turn a cheezy tune into something that slams. Hmmmm....I guess it could turn something that's say cheesefood cheezy into something that's maybe gouda cheezy though ;) -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Author: Non-HP-zs (zs@yahoo-inc.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/6/00 12:59 PM >Great ,now every flog that reads FM will go out an buy one an we can all be the same...... >Sometimes I just wish unique little things in life ,like the ViRUS are kept quiet. as long as folks think that the most important part of music is what gear it's composed on, folks aren't making music. Remember back in the day when all there was were DX7's? Or M1s? Or Minimoogs? Did everyone's music sound the same? My advice, and take this with a grain of salt, is to stop worrying so much about feeling as if you're in some secret 'in the know' society and just make what comes through you. If you have a Virus, all the better. But I guarantee that a JP8080 or FutureRetro 777 in the hands of someone more concerned with music will sound better. Gear is cool, but it doesn't set you free. zs>Hmmmm....I guess it could turn something that's say cheesefood cheezy into something that's maybe gouda cheezy though ;) haha ... that's what the EXT IN jacks are for... if I put my QS6's "Velveeta" preset thru a LP filter + some saturation and a bit of chorus, the Virus magically displays "Havarti" ... hmmmmmm..... zsWow, access got a Gold award from FM huh? I guess access must finally have the dosh to spend more for advertising in FM. FM ratings are directly related to the amount of advertising revenue FM receives from the company who manufactures the synth. Its an elementary economic relationship. If you don't believe me, browse through their back issues and have a look for yourself. Here is a simple example: according to FM, the Korg MS2000 is God's gift to the VA set. Indeed, it too received a 90% rating. The Virus is superior to the MS2000 in every way, and yet if you believe FM, these products are easily on par as far as quality is concerned. FM reviews are not worth the paper they are printed on. To you all you pathetic and moronic FM readers out there, why don't you pull the lightsticks out of your asses and learn something? Oh yeah, and if you want pictures of ugly models, why don't you read Loaded instead? You'll learn just about as much about synths from Loaded as you will from FM, and at least when you laugh while reading Loaded, it'll be becuase the writers intended it to be a joke. Take a chill pill dude - life is too short... Ahhhh....much better.... I'm not going to jump on the flame bait but I will say that I enjoy FM. I don't necessarily accept what they say as gospel; rather, I find it a nice source for learning about new gear, new groups, new music. I compare it to trash reading - like a gaming magazine or something... After 1 year of FM, I'll probably give Sound on Sound a try next as I've heard some good reviews of that publication. In the past I've read Electronic Musician and Keyboard and found both of those severely lacking. -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Author: Non-HP-gfg202 (gfg202@is8.nyu.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/8/00 9:29 AM Wow, access got a Gold award from FM huh? I guess access must finally have the dosh to spend more for advertising in FM. FM ratings are directly related to the amount of advertising revenue FM receives from the company who manufactures the synth. Its an elementary economic relationship. If you don't believe me, browse through their back issues and have a look for yourself. Here is a simple example: according to FM, the Korg MS2000 is God's gift to the VA set. Indeed, it too received a 90% rating. The Virus is superior to the MS2000 in every way, and yet if you believe FM, these products are easily on par as far as quality is concerned. FM reviews are not worth the paper they are printed on. To you all you pathetic and moronic FM readers out there, why don't you pull the lightsticks out of your asses and learn something? Oh yeah, and if you want pictures of ugly models, why don't you read Loaded instead? You'll learn just about as much about synths from Loaded as you will from FM, and at least when you laugh while reading Loaded, it'll be becuase the writers intended it to be a joke. One question, cause I'm having a problem in my head here. Are there any differences between the B and the Indigo when using OS 4.0? (except color and keyboard of course...) Thx. Greetings Bean>To you all you pathetic and moronic FM readers out there, why don't you pull the lightsticks out of your asses and learn something? Oh yeah, and if you want pictures of ugly models, why don't you read Loaded instead? You'll learn just about as much about synths from Loaded as you will from FM, and at least when you laugh while reading Loaded, it'll be becuase the writers intended it to be a joke. Why use these words on this list Gabe? If there right is not the question here. Greetings BeanIf i had a choice I'd pick the SOS over FM. But I'm hungry for data on synths so I read both when i can... SOS is online (forgot the the web addy), and they have all the issues older than 6 months on it. The reivews are more complete I think on SOS. And it is taylored to more than just the dance crowd. Seems more mature, and well thought out. But like I said I'm like you, I just look at FM for it's data and remove the subjective stuff. Sonic State is one of the best sources for the kind of info I get from FM. But SOS has such complete reviews it's like a condensed SonicState in a review. They just seem to be really "behind" in the products they review is my only complaint... oh also my book store seems to never have ti in stock is the other complaint :-) James kintama@jps.net -----Original Message----- From: dennis_schissler@hp.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:44 AM Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! >Take a chill pill dude - life is too short... > > > >Ahhhh....much better.... > >I'm not going to jump on the flame bait but I will say that I enjoy FM. I don't necessarily accept what they say as gospel; rather, I find it a nice source for learning about new gear, new groups, new music. I compare it to trash reading - like a gaming magazine or something... > >After 1 year of FM, I'll probably give Sound on Sound a try next as I've heard some good reviews of that publication. In the past I've read Electronic Musician and Keyboard and found both of those severely lacking. > > > >-Dennis > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Author: Non-HP-gfg202 (gfg202@is8.nyu.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/8/00 9:29 AM > > >Wow, access got a Gold award from FM huh? I guess access must finally have the dosh to spend more for advertising in FM. FM ratings are directly related to the amount of advertising revenue FM receives from the company who manufactures the synth. Its an elementary economic relationship. If you don't believe me, browse through their back issues and have a look for yourself. > >Here is a simple example: according to FM, the Korg MS2000 is God's gift to the VA set. Indeed, it too received a 90% rating. The Virus is superior to >the MS2000 in every way, and yet if you believe FM, these products are easily on par as far as quality is concerned. FM reviews are not worth the paper they are printed on. > >To you all you pathetic and moronic FM readers out there, why don't you pull >the lightsticks out of your asses and learn something? Oh yeah, and if you want pictures of ugly models, why don't you read Loaded instead? You'll learn just about as much about synths from Loaded as you will from FM, and at least when you laugh while reading Loaded, it'll be becuase the writers intended it to be a joke. > > > > Sound on Sound is the best music magazine I read. Its very in depth and I love the reviews (they do so many, and they never play favorites). well worth the high subscription cost! -----Original Message----- From: dennis_schissler@hp.com [mailto:dennis_schissler@hp.com] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:44 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Take a chill pill dude - life is too short... Ahhhh....much better.... I'm not going to jump on the flame bait but I will say that I enjoy FM. I don't necessarily accept what they say as gospel; rather, I find it a nice source for learning about new gear, new groups, new music. I compare it to trash reading - like a gaming magazine or something... After 1 year of FM, I'll probably give Sound on Sound a try next as I've heard some good reviews of that publication. In the past I've read Electronic Musician and Keyboard and found both of those severely lacking. -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: STOP PRESS! FM in Virus Gold Award Shocker! Author: Non-HP-gfg202 (gfg202@is8.nyu.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 5/8/00 9:29 AM Wow, access got a Gold award from FM huh? I guess access must finally have the dosh to spend more for advertising in FM. FM ratings are directly related to the amount of advertising revenue FM receives from the company who manufactures the synth. Its an elementary economic relationship. If you don't believe me, browse through their back issues and have a look for yourself. Here is a simple example: according to FM, the Korg MS2000 is God's gift to the VA set. Indeed, it too received a 90% rating. The Virus is superior to the MS2000 in every way, and yet if you believe FM, these products are easily on par as far as quality is concerned. FM reviews are not worth the paper they are printed on. To you all you pathetic and moronic FM readers out there, why don't you pull the lightsticks out of your asses and learn something? Oh yeah, and if you want pictures of ugly models, why don't you read Loaded instead? You'll learn just about as much about synths from Loaded as you will from FM, and at least when you laugh while reading Loaded, it'll be becuase the writers intended it to be a joke. One question, cause I'm having a problem in my head here. Are there any differences between the B and the Indigo when using OS 4.0? (except color and keyboard of course...) Welp, maybe price. The B's been out for a while and probably won't be as expensive. But man, that indigo's keyboard and its color.. mmmmm.... it's not a problem for me. I know what I'm saving up for. =) Eric ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- > If i had a choice I'd pick the SOS over FM. But I'm hungry for data on >synths so I read both when i can... SOS is online (forgot the the web addy), >and they have all the issues older than 6 months on it. The reivews are more complete I think on SOS. And it is taylored to more than just the dance crowd. Seems more mature, and well thought out. But like I said I'm >like you, I just look at FM for it's data and remove the subjective stuff. Sonic State is one of the best sources for the kind of info I get from FM. But SOS has such complete reviews it's like a condensed SonicState in a review. They just seem to be really "behind" in the products they review is >my only complaint... oh also my book store seems to never have ti in stock is the other complaint :-) > >James >kintama@jps.net > > In the UK, both magazines seem to get the reviews in pretty quick, take for instance the b v3.0 reviews, with which SOS were about three months ahead (maybe even four). SOS is unquestionably superior in every way; the only thing that FM has in it's favour is the cover-mounted CD, which occasionally has a demo that I'm interested in, and sometimes I'm tempted by the drum loops 'n' stuff that they throw in, although I must add that I'm invariably disappointed with those. Readers' ads are always of interest in both. I think the thing that I really like, is that SOS don't give scores in their reviews, opting instead for a 'pro and cons' approach. I think this is a much more appropriate method, as you are not then led into the trap of thinking, like someone else mentioned, that a Korg MS2000, and the Virus achieving the same score means that they are of the same quality/value. But, where FM will always score, is that a review almost always has an accompanying demo, and you've got to admit that it can be bloody tempting to check it out! -Ben 1) If I had based by purchase decisions on the FM reviews, I never would have bought the virus a, since they irrationally gave it something like 79%, notwithstanding the fact that even back then, it beat the pants off the competition. 2) If I purchased my gear based on what I heard from the tiny samples of presets provided on the FM cover cd, I would be a fool (particularly if said gear has a built in vocoder, since then the samples on the FM cd are usually nothing but some gibbon from FM farting through the vocoder for 3 minutes--but then, I guess thats all FM readers are interested in anyway right?) 3) Most synth manufacturers have samples of their synths available online which you can listen too, admittedly mp3 or real audio ain't the best medium to determine the sonic quality of a synth, but then again, neither is a 30 second sample on a cd. 4) SOS has searchable back issues from 1994-present online FOR FREE. I am about to swtich from Cakewalk on PC to Cubase on MAC. What is the best and safest way to transfer my midi files from the different platforms??? thanks in advance Dan>I am about to swtich from Cakewalk on PC to Cubase on MAC. What is the best and safest way to transfer my midi files from the different platforms??? thanks in advance the only way is imho to export your songs to standard midi, but you won't be very satisfied that way! i just have exchanged cakewalk with logic audio on pc and it's pain in my neck.... you've to rearrange the whole songs if you want to work further on them, 'cause every midi events on each changnel are merged together cy -- _______________________________________________ http://www.cymotec.de cymotec cyclone - industrial dance from germany ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Greetings All My name is Matt Picone. I'm a new participant in this group. Here are a few things to know about me: 1. I don't currently own a Virus- I am hoping that communicating with some of you can help clarify the questions that stand between me and a purchase. 2. I DID read the FAQ and have been through the archives of this list. 3. I DO have the unsubscribe instructions and won't kick and whine to get out if I need to! 4. I'm glad to be here and looking forward to some stimulating exchange. On to my initial quandry: I totally agree that the Virus has a more 'alive' sound than the Novations, but I'm curious as to what other discrete differences there are that made each of you choose Access. Do the features of the SuperNova II offset the reasons why you didn't like the SuperNova at all? One problem is that I live quite far from any place where I can try these, and will need to make my purchase based on speculation and input from others. Please, share with me what insight you can, trying to remain as objective as possible. --M@ Hey Matt, I also live in a place where I couldn't get my hands on any VA synth, only your typical Yamahas and Roland piano boxes, so I did research on the Sound on Sound web page and talked to a few friends. I found that the Virus-B had the most bang for the buck in terms of polyphony (24) and multitimbral (ity? 16). Yes, I bought it not based on sound, but on technical specs, and having owned it for a little over a month now, I can say the sound kicks. Bill PS: I should probably add that musically, my interests lie in rock (especially progressive), fusion, and pop, and that I'm heavily into MIDI guitar, computer driven composition, and have been involved with synths for 20 years. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Picone [mailto:matman@mysticworks.com] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 4:50 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: New Participant Greetings All My name is Matt Picone. I'm a new participant in this group. Here are a few things to know about me: 1. I don't currently own a Virus- I am hoping that communicating with some of you can help clarify the questions that stand between me and a purchase. 2. I DID read the FAQ and have been through the archives of this list. 3. I DO have the unsubscribe instructions and won't kick and whine to get out if I need to! 4. I'm glad to be here and looking forward to some stimulating exchange. On to my initial quandry: I totally agree that the Virus has a more 'alive' sound than the Novations, but I'm curious as to what other discrete differences there are that made each of you choose Access. Do the features of the SuperNova II offset the reasons why you didn't like the SuperNova at all? One problem is that I live quite far from any place where I can try these, and will need to make my purchase based on speculation and input from others. Please, share with me what insight you can, trying to remain as objective as possible. --M@ Can anyone help me clarify what I'm reading here? >waves: sawtooth, variable pulse, sine, triangle wave plus 62 additional spectral waves, sync, fm Is this to say that sync and fm capabilities are built into waves? As in the way a ROMpler works? What about Pulse-Width? -M@ None that i know of. think of 4.0 as a interchangeble software brain, and the Indigo and B, Kbd, as bodies. Weld Martijn Baan wrote: >One question, cause I'm having a problem in my head here. > >Are there any differences between the B and the Indigo when using OS 4.0? (except color and keyboard of course...) > >Thx. > >Greetings > >BeanI guess this rightfully belongs in its own thread. Let me know if separating my messages like this is contrary to this group's preference. Marc Schlaile's widely available demo does a great job of demonstrating the capabilities of the Virus' vocoder, but in all honesty, I can't understand what he was saying in his modulator track. Compared to the novation demo for the Supernova II it sounds like the difference between 42 bands and 32 is quite significant. Has anyone gotten their Nirus to speak so clearly as this: http://www.novationusa.com/products/snvkbd/mp3s/vocalvocoder.mp3 Thanks again, M@ Assuming you're primarily interested in rack/tabletop units, then the obvious contenders are the Roland JP-8080, Korg MS2000, Clavia Nord Lead 2 Rack, Access Virus b, Waldorf Microwave XT or Q-Rack, and Novation Nova/SuperNova. In terms of sound, I think this is largely subjective -- there are different opinions on a lot of these, and I won't bother rehashing them since they're all different. The JP-8080 has three primary limitations -- fairly bizarre bi-timbral implementation, 10 voice polyphony, and huge rack size. The Nord Lead 2 Rack is 16 voice polyphonic, but it's only 4-part multitimbral. This may be a factor for people. The lack of a decent display also diminishes its utility for me. The Korg MS2000 is brand new, however it has a very good price and (supposedly) sounds a lot like the Z1. Unfortunately, it also is very large and has limited polyphony (I think 4-voice). I'm completely unfamiliar with the Waldorf products, other than that they have had quite a OS upgrades and fairly irate users due to missing/buggy features. I just demoed a Nova the other day, and I really, really liked it a lot. I think it sounded extremely good -- a little colder than the Virus, but good nonetheless. The Nova itself feels more like a toy than the Virus but in terms of sheer features, I believe it's very similar to the Virus (notable difference is that it's only 6 part multitimbral but its effect setup is extremely powerful -- 7 simultaneous effects per part). Based on the demo of the Nova, I'm probably going to get a SuperNova as my next instrument simply because I like having a lot of options. The SN also consumes only 3U, which is an issue when working with limited room in a home studio. A Nova would be a good complement, IMO, to the Virus. Notable exclusions are the Yamaha AN1x and Korg Z1, both of which have pretty good reputations (for being somewhat niche machines). As I've stated before, if I could spec out a SuperVirus, it would have SPDIF/ADAT outputs and SPDIF/ADAT/WC input (or at least a digital option board); internal power supply; no more speaker-destroying thumps on power up/down!!!!; 4U rack mount with jacks on the rear (instead of top); and balanced analog inputs and outputs (switchable -10dBv/+4dBu). Brian >-----Original Message----- >From: Matt Picone [mailto:matman@mysticworks.com] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 1:50 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: New Participant > > >Greetings All > >My name is Matt Picone. I'm a new participant in this group. Here are a few >things to know about me: > >1. I don't currently own a Virus- I am hoping that communicating with some of you can help clarify the questions that stand between me and a purchase. >2. I DID read the FAQ and have been through the archives of this list. 3. I DO have the unsubscribe instructions and won't kick and whine to get out if I need to! >4. I'm glad to be here and looking forward to some stimulating exchange. > >On to my initial quandry: > >I totally agree that the Virus has a more 'alive' sound than the Novations, >but I'm curious as to what other discrete differences there are that made each of you choose Access. Do the features of the SuperNova II offset the reasons why you didn't like the SuperNova at all? > >One problem is that I live quite far from any place where I can try these, and will need to make my purchase based on speculation and input from others. Please, share with me what insight you can, trying to remain as objective as possible. > >--M@ > >