X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Aug 6 20:54:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: mzuther@pop.gmx.net Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 11:53:56 +0200 Subject: Re: multi's * From: Martin Zuther I had a look at my virus: Switch the Virus to "Multi-Mode", press the "CTRL"-button und use the Parameter-buttons until you find "MIDI-Dump TX". Then look for the entry "MultiBuff". It should be the function you're looking for. Maybe that works as you want it to??? BTW, I forgot about the exact problem, so if this is not what you're looking for - please tell me... ;) Martin mzuther@bigfoot.de http://listen.to/mzuther ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 2 23:12:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:11:05 EST Subject: When will there be a new OS fix? * From: AcrystDM when will the OS be updated again to fix the bug of hanging notes. I know i am not the only one experiencing this problem and it is making sequences quite problamatic with notes hanging all over the place. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 3 05:38:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:46:05 -0500 Subject: Re: uWaveII questions and wishes. * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net hey paul i think for moog bases you may want to stick with the pulse you have the virus bases are more dirty, bouncy, and almost 2600 ish with a sub osc for beef????? weldaccess-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: K 9 > >access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >>* From: Paul Nagle >> >>Oh yeah! The Virus has the *best* filters of all the modern synths I've tried but does anyone think that perhaps its oscillators aren't the fattest ever? I've had one for almost 6 months and never heard or created a warm bass or a really "minimoog" solo like I can on the Pulse, for example.... >>or is it just me? > >> > >Hey Paul, > >I thinl it just might be just you... have you heard the multis that are in 1.5.1? there are certainly some very warm sounds in there. Then again, of course, I don' exactly have a minimoog or a pulse for that matter to compare them to. > >I think there is lots of warmth in there, though. maybe you just have to get more of these artificial irregularities in there... LFO 3 might be the answer... with a hardly audible vibrato maybe? > >try it...:) > >canine > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 3 05:43:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:50:35 -0500 Subject: Re: When will there be a new OS fix? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net canine is in the states on holiday and are direct contact with access. hopefully when he gets back he can ring them for info. weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: AcrystDM > >when will the OS be updated again to fix the bug of hanging notes. I know i am not the only one experiencing this problem and it is making sequences quite problamatic with notes hanging all over the place. ********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 4 11:42:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 10:40:33 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: 1.51 changes * From: Guenther Albrecht i wrote: >>did anyone notice the zipper noise when fading in the volume of a part with ctrl 7? the part volume is very low, so maybe that is the culprit... canine answered: several people have asked for a higher output volume on the Virus, so I have forwarded that wish to access. NO NO - i meant something completely different. using multis you have to check the right volumes, e.g. when using a hihead sound on channel x you will have to set the channel volume for channel x to 127 and the part volume to 64. but you will also have to lower the volume of certain parts / channels, as a brute patch will be much louder than the hihead. so you end up setting one channel to 48, as any other setting is too loud for the multi. NOW, try to fade in the channel with ctrl 7 - the fade from 0 to 48 gives zipper noise and brutal steps. i understand that this is MIDI, but did i hear something about adaptive parameterization that should hinder such things? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 4 23:18:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:14:39 +0200 Subject: hilfe * From: plasmatica wenn ich versuche das midi-file auf meinen virus zu übertragen, hängt er bei Bank 0 63/65. das tut er immer. ich habe schon alles probiert, aber der synthesizer nimmt keine version an. ich benutze übrigens cakewalk 3.0d. bitte helft mir, marc ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 4 23:27:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: ash@bio.cornell.edu Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 16:26:51 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Subject: Re: hilfe * From: Ashley Deacon Loading the new operating system does not work with Cakewalk for some reason )I'm not sure why). Download a free demo version of Cubase from the WWW and use that - it works fine. Ash. access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: plasmatica > >wenn ich versuche das midi-file auf meinen virus zu |bertragen, hdngt er bei Bank 0 63/65. >das tut er immer. ich habe schon alles probiert, aber der synthesizer nimmt keine version an. > >ich benutze |brigens cakewalk 3.0d. > >bitte helft mir, >marc > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- Regards, Ashley Deacon ash@bio.cornell.edu 209 Biotechnology Building, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853. Tel. (607) 255-2174 Fax. (607) 255-2428 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 4 23:24:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 16:32:00 -0500 Subject: Re: hilfe * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net english please!!!! access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: plasmatica > >wenn ich versuche das midi-file auf meinen virus zu übertragen, hängt er bei Bank 0 63/65. >das tut er immer. ich habe schon alles probiert, aber der synthesizer nimmt keine version an. > >ich benutze übrigens cakewalk 3.0d. > >bitte helft mir, >marc > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 5 01:23:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 18:23:11 -0500 Organization: WAF80 Subject: Re: hilfe * From: K 9 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >english please!!!! > Oh, c'mon weld, you coulda figgirred it out, could't ya? Ashley got it right, it's the good old cakewalk problem... easy.. a FAQ... I'll put it in there very very soon... peace. canine ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 5 04:06:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [207.98.135.150] Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 18:06:13 PST Subject: Re: What means V_Lcd.S51/SI_NAME_RAM? * From: "brahman 8}" I think I know what you're talking about... I get this thing, too, when using the sounds in bank B in multi-mode, it's like they're playing fine, and then for no apparent reason (without having made any changes on the virus or on my sequencer), they'll go mute; another thing, I think somebody else also wrote about this, in multi-mode every once in a while my sounds will reassign themselves from bank A to bank B or vice versa (retaining their respective patch #'s)... hmmmm > >* From: Raymund Beyer > >Hi all, > >what means What means V_Lcd.S51/SI_NAME_RAM? This Message comes after I have edited Sound No. 77 Bank A - I have to restart the Virus afterwards? > >Also sometimes every second sound in Bank B is not playable (muted or something like that). But the only thing that helps is to restore the bank. > >Are this problems known? I just bought the Virus a few days ago....... > >Thanx in advance > >Ray > >-------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de >http://members.aol.com/brainhome >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 >Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 >-------------------------------------------------------- > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 5 06:16:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:16:17 EST Subject: Re: hilfe * From: Manikin MS hi marcus, hast du schon die sequencergeschwindigkeit auf 50 bpm gesetzt? bei mir gign es dann problemlos. mario ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 5 11:44:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:46:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: re: hilfe * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: Manikin MS > >hi marcus, hast du schon die sequencergeschwindigkeit auf 50 bpm gesetzt? bei >mir gign es dann problemlos. mario Entschuldigung fur meine Deutsch, weil es nicht meine eigene sprache ist. Gestern habe ich es auch probiert und auf 50 bpm klappte es, kein Problem. In Englisch: Yesterday I also tried it on 50 bpm and it worked fine, no problem. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 5 18:05:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:01:02 +0200 Subject: thanx & help * From: plasmatica many thanx to all of you for helping me. i just used to try an old cubase light version for updating my os and it worked! there were no more faults. everything was written without any interruption at 250 bpm! finally i loaded the second mid-file and picked up the new sounds. wow, there are no more problems of loosing sound or anything like that BUT: I AM NOT ABLE TO USE MY SECOND MIDI-CHANNEL. no sound appears!!!!! what the hell is going on in my lovely machine? i cannot believe it. no sound. nothing. i tried each of the CTRL/EDIT parameters but there is no sound! and why are my sequencers (cakewalk3.0d and cubase light) not able to record MIDI-Controllers while i am playing? was the update not okay or what? HELP love & light, marc ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 5 19:04:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 12:03:42 -0500 Organization: WAF80 Subject: Re: thanx & help * From: K 9 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: plasmatica > > >I AM NOT ABLE TO USE MY SECOND MIDI-CHANNEL. no sound appears!!!!! what the hell is going on in my lovely machine? i cannot believe it. no sound. nothing. i tried each of the CTRL/EDIT parameters but >there is no sound! note that you have switch to Multisingle mode (both multi and single buttons pressed) or multimode (multi button pressed). to be able to ue more than one midi channel at a time... but you did that, right? > > >and why are my sequencers (cakewalk3.0d and cubase light) not able to record MIDI-Controllers while i am playing? There is a preference somewhere in the MIDI menus where you can switch "panel to MIDI" on. that way all your sequencers will be able to receive the controller data... peace. canine > > >was the update not okay or what? > >HELP > >love & light, >marc > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 5 20:13:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: thanx & help * From: Gene Schwartz > >I AM NOT ABLE TO USE MY SECOND MIDI-CHANNEL. no sound appears!!!!! what the hell is going on in my lovely machine? i cannot believe it. no sound. nothing. i tried each of the CTRL/EDIT parameters but >there is no sound! > >and why are my sequencers (cakewalk3.0d and cubase light) not able to record MIDI-Controllers while i am playing? > Are you in multi mode? Is the second part set to channel 2? Do you have the panel set to MIDI or Internal + MIDI (in the ctrl menu). Are your sequencers filtering out control messages? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 6 13:38:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:02:23 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: thanx & help * From: Guenther Albrecht >>to be able to use more than one >>midi channel at a time... but you did that, right? soso! i found that MultiSingle does not work any more - you cannot switch banks A/B thru MIDI. when using more channels i have to use multi mode... anyone had the same experience? regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 6 19:58:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:54:15 +0200 Subject: re: thanx & help by marc * From: plasmatica >I AM NOT ABLE TO USE MY SECOND MIDI-CHANNEL. no sound appears!!!!! what the hell is going on in my lovely machine? i cannot believe it. no sound. nothing. i tried each of the CTRL/EDIT parameters but >there is no sound! > >and why are my sequencers (cakewalk3.0d and cubase light) not able to record MIDI-Controllers while i am playing? > >was the update not okay or what? hello friends, i just loaded the 2nd midi-file once again and now my 2nd channel works! unbelievable, isnt't it? but the sequencers still do not receive midi-controller data. i talked to a friendly man from tsi-gmbh in germany and now i will get a new virus. that's life, love & light, marc ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 6 20:24:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [209.140.136.3] Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:23:59 PDT Subject: Re: thanx & help * From: "brahman 8}" > >* From: plasmatica > >I AM NOT ABLE TO USE MY SECOND MIDI-CHANNEL. no sound appears!!!!! what the hell is going on in my lovely machine? i cannot believe it. no sound. nothing. i tried each of the CTRL/EDIT parameters but >there is no sound! > when I wrote earlier about my sounds muting out for no apparent reason, it was also midi channel 2 that they were assigned to; it doesn't happen all the time, but it's annoying when it does... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 7 12:20:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: orc@smtp.sics.se Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:25:50 +0200 Subject: Virus mail-order in Germany? * From: L-H Orc =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F6nn?= Hi there list, Would any of you recommend a mail-order store (a web-based one would be best) in Germany from where I could order a Virus? It seems that it's impossible get one fast here in Sweden... :-( - Orc (soon to be a Virus owner) Orc ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 7 14:35:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:34:09 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus mail-order in Germany? * From: "w.schneider" Hi ORC, check www.musik-produktiv.de or http://www.thomann.de I've ordered many things at these two addresses and they are very reliable. If they have the Virus on stock You should get it via UPS within a Couple of days. Greetings Willi Schneider P.S. If anybody got any time left to surf in the web (besides curing the VIRUS :) ) check these pages: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4542/index.html -----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht----- Von: access-list@teklab.com An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Dienstag, 7. April 1998 14:02 Betreff: Virus mail-order in Germany? >* From: L-H Orc =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F6nn?= > > >Hi there list, > >Would any of you recommend a mail-order store (a web-based one would be best) in Germany from where I could order a Virus? > >It seems that it's impossible get one fast here in Sweden... :-( > > >- Orc (soon to be a Virus owner) > > > >Orc > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 7 15:03:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 15:05:11 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Virus mail-order in Germany? * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: L-H Orc =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F6nn?= > > >Hi there list, > >Would any of you recommend a mail-order store (a web-based one would be best) in Germany from where I could order a Virus? > >It seems that it's impossible get one fast here in Sweden... :-( > > >- Orc (soon to be a Virus owner) Orc, I think Musik Store does mail order. www.music-store.de. I also think the prices are also O.K. but I dont have made expiriences myself. Ray >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 8 22:14:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:11:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Good(cheap) MIDI Interface for PC? * From: "NightGoat" I'm having no luck finding somebody in the Chicago land area with a Virus that has OS 1.51, so I've decided to buy a cheap MIDI Interface for my PC. My question is: "What is a good(cheap) MIDI Interface that will be compatible w/Cubase VST so I can load the new OS from my PC?" I was looking at the PortMan series(1 in / 1 out) for about $60.00. Will this work?? HELP.......... Please. Thanks in advance. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 9 01:33:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:37:49 -0700 Subject: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: b la rock Here is a Thread ..!!! I use a Roland PC 200 MkII to play my VIRUS .... ... I mean it works... but if is not the most expressive MIDI controller in the world ! So I would love to see what you lovely people are using and why you think they are good. Peace. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 9 04:14:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: dhylander@pop.mindspring.com Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:12:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: David Hylander At 04:37 PM 4/8/98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: b la rock > >Here is a Thread ..!!! > >I use a Roland PC 200 MkII to play my VIRUS .... I use a Alesis QuadraSynth+ 4 A-D controllers pitch and mod wheels 2 CV pedal inputs velocity and aftertouch It works well with the Virus. I can punch in patch numbers on the QS buttons and call up Virus patches real quick. Cool looking too....... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 9 16:32:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Good(cheap) MIDI Interface for PC? * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Good(cheap) MIDI Interface for PC? Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/8/98 3:11 PM * From: "NightGoat" >I'm having no luck finding somebody in the Chicago land area with a Virus that has OS 1.51, so I've decided to buy a cheap MIDI Interface for my PC. My question is: "What is a good(cheap) MIDI Interface that will be compatible w/Cubase VST so I can load the new OS from my PC?" I was looking at the PortMan series(1 in / 1 out) for about $60.00. Will this work?? HELP.......... Please. Thanks in advance. Maybe Maybe not. I could not get the OS to load through my Opcode 2 in 2 out interface from the parallel port...and I could not get it to run through my friends 8port SE rackmount thingy... Get that ultra simple CORD with the 1 in/ 1 out and joystick input...the simple cord that often comes with a soundcard. The OS data flowed through that really quickly. my .02, Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 9 21:19:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:18:44 -0400 Subject: Re[2]: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/8/98 10:12 PM * From: David Hylander At 04:37 PM 4/8/98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: b la rock > >Here is a Thread ..!!! > >I use a Roland PC 200 MkII to play my VIRUS .... I play in the notes with my W-30 and send all the other cc stuff by tweaking the virus knobs themselves since I have them placed close together on the stand. I love my virus. I hope I don't wear out the cutoff knob. My virus would be very wheels off then. :) I'd like to see someone develop a 16 or 32 knob KNOB BOX (sort of like a big fader box ) Keep Bouncin, Mundo Dallas, TX ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 9 23:09:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:05:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: "NightGoat" -----Original Message----- From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 3:42 PM Subject: Re[2]: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? >* From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/8/98 10:12 PM > > >* From: David Hylander > >At 04:37 PM 4/8/98 -0700, you wrote: >>* From: b la rock >> >>Here is a Thread ..!!! >> >>I use a Roland PC 200 MkII to play my VIRUS .... > > >I play in the notes with my W-30 and send all the other cc stuff by tweaking the virus knobs themselves since I have them placed close together on the stand. > I use a Roland W-30 too, it gets the job done. I really love tweaken knobs. But I have noticed that some of the knobs are getting a little "wobbly"(loose). I hope they don't break.....that would SUCK! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 9 23:37:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:36:09 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Re[2]: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:18:44 -0400, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I'd like to see someone develop a 16 or 32 knob KNOB BOX (sort of like a big fader box ) As a Nord Modular owner I agree. Except that it should have 100 knobs and maybe a dozen switches. :-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 10 00:51:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:51:48 -0400 Organization: Parlor City Recordings Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: Jordan Vesteyo Kawai of all people make a box called a "macro control" box it has 16 knobs and is also has a channel switch for any of the 16 channels......all the knobs transmit stardard CC's but you will have to map them to other controllers Via a patch in your sequencer but that's no big beal......I works great with the K5000 and I also use it for controlling rebirth of all things.....and it's another "little gray box"..... and here's the kicker it's about $179.00 US.... Jordan Vesteyo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 10 04:41:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: bob frye Peavey, of all people, make a pretty good MIDI fader box, with a few programmable buttons also, I believe... Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 10 16:49:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:05:35 -0400 Subject: Re[4]: control your VIRUS/Loose Knobs * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) > >>I play in the notes with my W-30 and send all the other cc stuff by tweaking the virus knobs themselves since I have them placed close >together >on the stand. >> >I use a Roland W-30 too, it gets the job done. I really love tweaken knobs. But I have noticed that some of the knobs are getting a little "wobbly"(loose). I hope they don't break.....that would SUCK! uh oh! I was thinking that my cutoff knob might be loosening. CAN WE ADD: "BUILD TIGHTER/MORE STURDY KNOBS" TO THE WISHLIST? Mundo Dallas, TX ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 10 16:48:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:19:02 -0400 Subject: Re control Virus?/KnobsMassive * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/9/98 9:36 PM * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:18:44 -0400, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >>I'd like to see someone develop a 16 or 32 knob KNOB BOX (sort of like a big fader box ) >As a Nord Modular owner I agree. Except that it should have 100 knobs and maybe a dozen switches. >:-) >Paul That would be wikid! And is it really that unreasonable? I would pay for a 100 assignable knob /12 switch Access "KnobsMassive" to control the Virus and other gear. For the "KnobsMassive" I wouldn't want any needless sounds and such. Just the wheels and toggles...My virus has tons of sounds I'll be using for a long time. Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 10 16:51:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:33:36 -0400 Subject: Re:control your VIRUS ? KawaiKnobs * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/9/98 6:51 PM >* From: Jordan Vesteyo >Kawai of all people make a box called a "macro control" box it has 16 knobs and is also has a channel switch for any of the 16 channels......all the knobs transmit >stardard >CC's but you will have to map them to other controllers Via a patch in your sequencer >but that's no big beal......I works great with the K5000 and I also use it for controlling rebirth of all things.....and it's another "little gray box"..... and >here's >the kicker it's about $179.00 US.... >Jordan Vesteyo Yes! that sounds wikid. I could assign the knobs to all those cc numbers I have been memorizing in the bathroom.... :) Time to check for that box. Good Research Jordan! Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 10 19:10:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:07:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: hilljam@WellsFargo.COM I can corroborate this! As can Jay. It's the PC1600X, and it's not super-expensive, and it *rules*. .jamie. ---------- From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 7:40PM * From: bob frye Peavey, of all people, make a pretty good MIDI fader box, with a few programmable buttons also, I believe... Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 10 20:46:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: shehryar@pop.sirius.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:46:44 -0700 Subject: Waldorf MW II XT or Access Virus * From: Shehryar Lasi Hi, I know that some of the users on this list own both a MW II XT and an Access Virus (others are also welcome to respond). I have a friend who is looking to buy a new synth and we have narrowed it down to one of these two (I think the Nord modular is out of his price range, plus he uses a Mac). His current set-up is an Emu Morpheus, Korg DW-8000, an Emu ESI-32, and an Ensoniq DP-4. He actually manages to squeeze quite a lot out of this set-up. His musical style is mainly Goa Trance (X-Dream and Slinky Wizard type stuff). He uses the DW-8000 for lead melody lines, the Morpheus for basses, pads, some leads, and for creating sounds to download to the ESI-32. He samples the drum sounds from the Morpheus and uses the ESI-32 for drums because the Morpheuses timing is pretty bad. I own a MW I and a Nord Lead II so I kind of have an idea of what the MW II and the Virus are like, but we are looking for impressions from people who have hands on experience with both. Plus I really haven't used my MW much so I don't know it's real power, and I hear the Virus is more flexible than the Nord. I imagine the MW II XT is probably more capable of a wider range of sounds, but the Virus might be better at creating more traditionally analog sounds, especially squelchy distorted basses, and leads. Am I right? Can the MW II XT do PWM and FM? Can the Virus emulate wave table interpolation? How do the effects on both compare (especially distortion (is distortion available per patch or only as a global effect?), delay, flange). How about programability, which is easier/more fun to use? How about LFO flexibility (I know the Virus has one per voice, is this very useful?) and modulation routings? I really like the MW's side modulation capability, does the Virus have this capability? Which is better for each of the following types of sounds: basses, leads, pads, and wierd sounds? What exactly does the shaper on the Virus do (and will he wish he had it if he buys the MW II XT)? How about the character of the filters? Is the resonance whistly or squelchy (really technical terms)? Which one would you pick if you were him? Sorry if this is off-topic or sounds naive. You may e-mail me privately if you wish. Thanks in advance for your time. -Shehryar p.s. I posted this to the Waldorf list too. It will be interesting to see if the recommendations are highly list dependant ;-) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 11 03:58:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Waldorf MW II XT or Access Virus * From: Gene Schwartz I'll crosspost my Waldorf list reply here, in case any Virus owners want to disagree with me. >I own a MW I and a Nord Lead II so I kind of have an idea of what the MW II and the Virus are like, but we are looking for impressions from people who have hands on experience with both. Plus I really haven't used my MW much so I don't know it's real power, and I hear the Virus is more flexible than the Nord. Very true. > >I imagine the MW II XT is probably more capable of a wider range of sounds, True. >but the Virus might be better at creating more traditionally analog sounds, especially squelchy distorted basses, and leads. Am I right? > In most cases. You can certainly do it faster. (My experience is with the MWII, not the XT. But the MWII/XT is not intended to be a virtual analog synth.) >Can the MW II XT do PWM and FM? No. Yes. > >Can the Virus emulate wave table interpolation? > No. >How do the effects on both compare (especially distortion (is distortion available per patch or only as a global effect?), delay, flange). > I don't use chorus much. Right now, the fx on the Virus are better. The MWII doesn't have delay (does the XT yet?). But I think that the distortion is better and more flexible on the Virus also. But, keep in mind that Waldorf says that the MWII/XT fx should still be considered beta. >How about programability, which is easier/more fun to use? > I think that a lot of people would reflexively answer that the Virus is easier to use. But, I think that once you get past the knobs, the interface on the MWII is far superior at this point. Plus the MWIIXT has the knobs also. I can elaborate on this in more detail if you'd like. Funwise - they're both great fun - I think the Virus is set up more for the quick fix, and the auxilliary ins and outs plus the audio ins make for some very warped signal processing. This aspect seems to go farther than what is available (from what I hear) on the XT at this point. But if you're designing a patch which is going to evolve in interesting ways over time, and you want lots of modulation capability, you will have more fun on the MWII/XT. Plus, I believe that Waldorf will be adding more features as time goes by. I find that I can have a bit too much fun by taking the sub outs of the MWII and plugging them into the audio inputs of the virus and then processing them through the aux outs and ins also. But this part of the Virus is still buggy. >How about LFO flexibility (I know the Virus has one per voice, is this very useful?) and modulation routings? > No comparison - the MWII is way superior in its mod routings and flexibility. The Virus is somewhat limited in its LFO flexibility, e.g. LFO 2 can modulate either filter 1 or filter 2 cutoff or both, but LFO 1 cannot. LFO 1 can modulate Filter 1 resonance and Filter 2 resonance together, but not separately, and LFO 2 cannot modulate resonance. I.e. the routings are somewhat fixed. No such limitations on the MWII. >I really like the MW's side modulation capability, does the Virus have this capability? > No. The Virus doesn't have this. ( I assume you're talking about the ability to modulate the amount of modulation from another source? ) The MWII has this implemented differently than the MWI. >Which is better for each of the following types of sounds: basses, leads, pads, and wierd sounds? What exactly does the shaper on the Virus do (and will he wish he had it if he buys the MW II XT)? > I think that for traditional analog type synth sounds, you'll get their quicker on the Virus. For weird variations of those, or for weird sounds in general, I think that the MWII is superior. Exactly what the shaper does technically on the Virus, I'm not sure, but I've gotten some mighty satisfying results from it. I which that the amount could be modulated, though ... The MWII/XT has a waveshaper as one of the filter choices, and you can have the wave as a modulation destination. There are a lot of features of the Virus that you might wish for if you had the MWII, and vice versa. I love having both instruments because I find them very complementary. >Which one would you pick if you were him? They are both fabulous synths. I would think a lot about which features are more of a priority - if you want those great mod routings then you definitely want the MWII or XT. If you want a more in your face analog style synth then you want the Virus. If I didn't have either, and I had to choose between the XT and the Virus, I would personally choose the XT. But that is because the mod routings, and the wavetables give me more flexibility to design evolving and complex timbres. > >Sorry if this is off-topic or sounds naive. You may e-mail me privately if you wish. Thanks in advance for your time. If you have particular quesions, or want more detail, you can either email me privately (feel free) , or the list. > >-Shehryar > >p.s. I might post this to the Virus list too. It will be interesting to see if the recommendations are highly list dependant ;-) I'm on both lists, so I'll give you an entirely different opinion from the Virus list :). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 11 22:11:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:11:24 +0100 Subject: Re: Waldorf MW II XT or Access Virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:57 Uhr +0100 on 11.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Gene Schwartz > >I'll crosspost my Waldorf list reply here, in case any Virus owners want to disagree with me. > >>How about programability, which is easier/more fun to use? >> > > >Funwise - they're both great fun - I think the Virus is set up more for the quick fix, and the auxilliary ins and outs plus the audio ins make for some very warped signal processing. This aspect seems to go farther than what is available (from what I hear) on the XT at this point. One major thing the virus can do is the following: you can take a sound (let's call it patch 1), setting up the sound, filters and FX as desired and route it out of the AUX Bus. You don't actaully take a cable and wire it to your mixer though. Then create a second (patch 2) sound. Use AUX 1 as your input and use filters an FX *again*. I think this is even more amazing than routing external ins to the filter/fx of the virus... weirdness galore...! But if you're >designing a patch which is going to evolve in interesting ways over time, and you want lots of modulation capability, you will have more fun on the MWII/XT. Plus, I believe that Waldorf will be adding more features as time goes by. Yeah, it's difficult to say what there will be. Access is also adding a lot of features to each new version of the OS. The Modulation Matrix is high up on the wishlist, maybe Access will find a way to implement it in there? I surely hope so. Right now you can only use delay on LFO 3 on the virus, it's a start... > >I find that I can have a bit too much fun by taking the sub outs of the MWII and plugging them into the audio inputs of the virus and then processing them through the aux outs and ins also. But this part of the Virus is still buggy. Actually it works great for me (1.5.1). tell us more, please. > >>How about LFO flexibility (I know the Virus has one per voice, is this very useful?) and modulation routings? >> >No comparison - the MWII is way superior in its mod routings and flexibility. The Virus is somewhat limited in its LFO flexibility, e.g. LFO 2 can modulate either filter 1 or filter 2 cutoff or both, but LFO 1 cannot. You are right. I find this limitation (as on the Nord Lead) very user friendly though. That has something to do ith the "getting there quicker" part of the Virus. > >I think that for traditional analog type synth sounds, you'll get their quicker on the Virus. For weird variations of those, or for weird sounds in general, I think that the MWII is superior. More flexible probably. Analog and the Virus in particular can make some very very wild sounds. You just have to modulate them manually... If you want wild modulation check out the Nord modular, but I think you said it was out of the price range...) > >>Which one would you pick if you were him? I have a feeling that if you are located in the US, you should just pick up one of them now, and the other next year -- letting availability decide. Hope this gives an alternate impression of a superpsyched virususer...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 11 22:11:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:13:17 +0100 Subject: Re: Q. how do YOU control your VIRUS ? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I can't play keaboards, not fast enough to actually play everything (or mostly anything) with keys. I just use Logic Audio and the front panel. I have done gigs with nothing else but these and a miniDisk player (routed through the external ins)... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 12 01:19:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:18:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Waldorf MW II XT or Access Virus * From: Gene Schwartz >>Funwise - they're both great fun - I think the Virus is set up more for the quick fix, and the auxilliary ins and outs plus the audio ins make for some very warped signal processing. This aspect seems to go farther than what is available (from what I hear) on the XT at this point. > >One major thing the virus can do is the following: you can take a sound (let's call it patch 1), setting up the sound, filters and FX as desired and route it out of the AUX Bus. You don't actaully take a cable and wire it to your mixer though. > >Then create a second (patch 2) sound. Use AUX 1 as your input and use filters an FX *again*. I think this is even more amazing than routing external ins to the filter/fx of the virus... weirdness galore...! > Yes - this is the most fun aspect of the Virus, in my opinion. All sorts of feedback and interplay between aux1's and aux2's and the audio input... Still think the MWII can do weirder sounds, though. According to the latest figures, the MWII can do about a 8.3 on the Kensington Sound Weirdness scale, the Virus only about 7.4. >But if you're >>designing a patch which is going to evolve in interesting ways over time, and you want lots of modulation capability, you will have more fun on the MWII/XT. Plus, I believe that Waldorf will be adding more features as time goes by. > >Yeah, it's difficult to say what there will be. Access is also adding a lot of features to each new version of the OS. The Modulation Matrix is high up on the wishlist, maybe Access will find a way to implement it in there? I surely hope so. Right now you can only use delay on LFO 3 on the virus, it's a start... > A Virus with mod routings like the MWII would be dangerous. >> >>I find that I can have a bit too much fun by taking the sub outs of the MWII and plugging them into the audio inputs of the virus and then processing them through the aux outs and ins also. But this part of the Virus is still buggy. > >Actually it works great for me (1.5.1). tell us more, please. > Perhaps you haven't tried hard enough.:) My problems are severe, obvious and very annoying. I find that with static mode set for several channels, with interacting sounds throught the aux ins and outs working together with the audio input, channels are constantly cutting out. To get them back, I have to go and toggle the input mode - but each Virus multi part edit screen stays where it has been last - they are not synchronized - so it sometimes takes several minutes to find that parameter on all affected channels. It is even worse if you are triggering the Virus normally with notes on another channel. Then the problem is incessant - it occurs way before all the polyphony is chewed up (a sound still uses voices if it is in static input mode.) etc.. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 11:07:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 05:14:40 -0400 Subject: essentials for the next op sys * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net 1) a compare mode 2) a ring modulator, and perhaps a expanded waveshaper 3) more output available (6-12 d.b. would be nice) 4) a modulation matrix would be the bomb! 5) glissando (stepped glide) 6) hold mode for arpegiator and one crazy one: "WELD MODE"- a random patch generator similiar to the pulse!!! just go to a rnd patch or select randomize, and wholla....... a new randomized piece of crazyness!!!! weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 17:33:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:32:36 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: "Howard Scarr" Hello fellow Virus owners! Seen a few interesting ideas here, but personally, I think Access should spend more development time getting the present configuration working properly instead (mine is 1.51). The Virus doesn't score at all well here. 1. Make the system more stable. For instance, attempting to control any filter envelope times crashes 1.51 (try pushing a mod wheel on the original B59 patch "X-Fatty"). 2. Only allow parts which are enabled to be accessed (except in edit mode of course). And don't make all Multis look as if they are chock full of enabled "Overtures". 3. Multis should reference the part names instead of copying them. I really can't understand why the access programmers did this! My (relatively humble!) additional features wish-list 1. Key follow for envelopes (global per envelope per single) 2. Extra clock parameter for many more possibilies: "Clock" = off or 1-16, "Divisor" = 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 12, 16, 24, 32, 48. I wouldn't mind the redundancy if I could get e.g. 7/16, 5/8 etc 3. Ping-pong echo bfn Howard Scarr (Germany) ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 19:08:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:16:23 -0400 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net yes i completely forgot to mention the bugs( im on flu drugs today??? :-), (ecspecially multi mode and ext in) ....im very sorry. im sure canine has a log of all the bugs everyone has reported, and will let access know about them. i totally agree id rather have 100% funtionallity before ring mod :-) p.s. hey canine, the dreaded ghost parameter change bug is back on mine!! when a sound is being sequenced just at a random point the filter cutoff will lowe or higher, out of the blue?????????? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 19:17:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:20:45 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: "Howard Scarr" > >Seen a few interesting ideas here, but personally, I think Access should spend more development time getting the present configuration working properly instead (mine is 1.51). The Virus doesn't score at all well here. I totally agree with that! Hanging notes when stopping sequencer. Also when I'm in multi-mode and I use, let's say 4 or more tracks of different synths incl. virus, I hear very short ticks/clicks at the beginning of every (fast-attacked) sound. (from the virus). Not really disturbing but still. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Let's hope they will get all the bugs out. Still, it's a great machine. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 20:20:14 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:19:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re:(2) essentials for the next op sys * From: "w.schneider" Hi list, happy easter to all. By the way, the problem that Howard described with the sound B59 "X-Fatty" causes (to my opinion) many of the other problems concerning the reliability of my virus, like "every second patch in bank B seems to be muted...(this was part of some earlier messages)". Everytime i was using the mod-wheel on this patch, my Virus was like TILT. What i did was: I copied all my favourite sounds to single bank A, plus i deleted this patch B59 "X-Fatty". Since then my Virus runs perfect, as much as i can tell. I hope this helps. Greetings from Munich Willi Schneider ..keep on rocking!!! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4542/index.html -----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht----- Von: access-list@teklab.com An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Montag, 13. April 1998 19:08 Betreff: Re: essentials for the next op sys >* From: "Howard Scarr" > >Hello fellow Virus owners! > >Seen a few interesting ideas here, but personally, I think Access should spend more development time getting the present configuration working properly instead (mine is 1.51). The Virus doesn't score at all well here. > > >1. Make the system more stable. For instance, attempting to control any filter envelope times crashes 1.51 (try pushing a mod wheel on the original B59 patch "X-Fatty"). >2. Only allow parts which are enabled to be accessed (except in edit mode of course). And don't make all Multis look as if they are chock full of enabled >"Overtures". >3. Multis should reference the part names instead of copying them. I really >can't understand why the access programmers did this! > > >My (relatively humble!) additional features wish-list > > >1. Key follow for envelopes (global per envelope per single) 2. Extra clock parameter for many more possibilies: "Clock" = off or 1-16, "Divisor" = 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 12, 16, 24, 32, 48. I wouldn't mind the redundancy >if I could get e.g. 7/16, 5/8 etc >3. Ping-pong echo > > >bfn >Howard Scarr (Germany) > > > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 20:47:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:52:48 -0700 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: b la rock >I hear very short ticks/clicks at the beginning of every (fast-attacked) >sound. (from the virus) yes is this a bug or a feature ? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 21:10:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:17:42 -0400 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net try adding just a bit of attack and turning the punch parmaeter off?? weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: b la rock > >>I hear very short ticks/clicks at the beginning of every (fast-attacked) >>sound. (from the virus) > >yes is this a bug or a feature ? > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 13 21:58:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:56:22 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:20:45 +0200, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I totally agree with that! >Hanging notes when stopping sequencer. Hanging notes are the worst. But "my" Virus will be going back to the store soon, alas, so my vote doesn't count. I had to choose and picked a certain Swedish Virtual Modular instead. Now I have to quickly record all the tracks I've started which are heavily infected with a Virus. BTW, the Studio Electronics SE6 is coming..... Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 14 01:13:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 01:03:27 +0200 Subject: new version * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I just receivesd Word from Christoph that a new version of the OS will be ready within the next few days. He has received all of the bug reportts, albeit somewhat late for this release, since I was on vacation and did not always have access to email. my apologies, but all the best wishes for easter and -- I'm back home. sad enough... I had the best time traveling the USA, meeting Weld, Vince and Ashley, all three of them Virus users and list subscribers. can't wait to go back over there... even though Virus' are very expensive, I must say! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 14 11:49:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:47:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: "Howard Scarr" >...when a sound is being sequenced just at a random point the filter cutoff will lower or higher, out of the blue I've had this problem with Resonance. Hope this is fixed in the next OS version! BTW: I just tried controlling filter times in my own patches - and of course it works. The "X-Fatty" problem is more elusive than I thought... >I'm sure canine has a log of all the bugs everyone has reported, and will let access know about them Canine - how about posting us a list of known bugs every once in a while, sorted according to OS version? bfn Howard ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 14 11:58:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:00:42 +0200 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:47 Uhr +0200 on 14.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Canine - how about posting us a list of known bugs every once in a while, sorted according to OS version? That's a great idea, only right now I don't think I can find the time to assemble such a list. I will though, but it may take a bit. problem about known bugs is the reproducability. If only one person complains to the list, I can hardly call that a "known bug", right? what if one person can't reproduce a particular bug? is it a bug then? hmmm. needs work...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 14 13:05:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:35:09 +0200 Subject: 1.52 around the corner * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" 1.52 is just around the corner. the hanging notes problem needs further evaulation, it can not yet be reliably reproduced, the programmers are working on it as I type, a 1.53 will fix all those problems shortly. until then, please all people experiencing hanging notes let me know: - sequencer type - sound (is it a mono or a poly sound?) - how many voices is the virus using? - is there anything fancy going on? - please send a .MID file of a sequence that can reproduce the error please do all this in private email to not clutter up the list. 1.53 will have Arpeggiator hold and -Note out. plus several small fixes and additions that will be documented in the read me. the Sysex documentation is coming soon and a PDF version of the manual is also. bear with me. I am working on it. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 14 14:36:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:29:09 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Delay Signature Set Access Virus Rob Papen * From: "Rob Papen" Hi Virus owner, This mail it send to all the people who ordered the Signature Soundset of Rob Papen for their Access Virus. This to let you know: I am still working on it, but I had some delay. Because I want to make a great sounding set, I decided not to hurry. So please have some patient. When the set is ready I will let you know by e-mail. Thanks, Rob Papen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC robpapen@nedernet.nl http://www.nedernet.nl/~robpapen Tel: 00-31 475 410188 Fax: 00-31 475 410089 What is Rob doing at this moment: - Working on the new 4MB set for the TerraTec EWS-64 - Working on a new CD-ROM collection for the EMU ESI and EOS samplers - Working on the signature-set for the Access Virus (send me a mail) -Just finished the 127 factory-sounds for the Access Virus. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- >>Almost 2000 years ago He was here. The Alpha and the Omega << >>Do you know Him ? Do you know who He is ? << >>He is the answer to all your questions ! << ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 14 15:00:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:08:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Delay Signature Set Access Virus Rob Papen * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net did i order ?????? i cannot even remember??? im on flu drugs right now :) thx weld (jim W) p.s. maybee wait till op sys is done for more features??? in you patches ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 14 15:01:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:09:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Delay Signature Set Access Virus Rob Papen * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net sorry for the private mail to the list. ROB please email me privately back sorry again sportsfans weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 15 12:13:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:12:06 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Clicks * From: "Howard Scarr" >Also when I'm in multi-mode and I use, let's say 4 or more tracks of different synths incl. virus, I hear very short ticks/clicks at the beginning of every (fast-attacked) sound (from the virus). You sure it's not just note-stealing? 12 isn't a lot of notes (especially if you are using Twin sounds and/or longer release). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 15 12:25:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:24:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Virus and MIDI connections * From: "Howard Scarr" What's the best way to set up the Virus, Keyboard (Ensoniq ASR - no soft thru) and computer (running Cubase)? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 15 13:49:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:47:58 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus and MIDI connections * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:24 Uhr +0200 on 15.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: "Howard Scarr" > >What's the best way to set up the Virus, Keyboard (Ensoniq ASR - no soft thru) and computer (running Cubase)? > assuming that you have a lo-cost 1IN/1OUT MIDI interface: Computer OUT to ASR IN Computer IN to ASR OUT ASR THRU to Virus IN If you want to record the controllers from the virus you will need to patch a MIDI cable from the VIRUS OUT to COMPUTER IN. Of course you can always use the ASR OUT for that one... unless you are using the ASR OUT at the same time. n that case you won't be able to... helps? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 15 14:00:22 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:03:24 +0200 Subject: Galaxy patch * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi y'all, the galaxy patch is back online, a user mailed a modified version to me, jopefully everything works now. It's on the download page again. Don't forget to reload the page in case the old one is still in your cache. please advise me if otherwise...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 15 16:37:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: Alexander.Fischer@mail.deuba.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:38:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Galaxy patch * From: Alexander Fischer At 14:03 15.04.98 +0200, you wrote: >the galaxy patch is back online, a user mailed a modified version to me, Sorry Canine, but the link to the patch doesn't work :-( Alexander Fischer alexander.fischer@mail.deuba.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 15 17:15:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:17:30 +0200 Subject: Re: Galaxy patch * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 16:38 Uhr +0200 on 15.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >>the galaxy patch is back online, a user mailed a modified version to me, > >Sorry Canine, but the link to the patch doesn't work :-( you're right. I'm afraid the file is damaged. Sorry... Frank, could you please see to that? it was probably damaged when you sent it to me, since I always get "Document contains no data"... thanks think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 15 21:41:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:43:08 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Clicks/Solution * From: "Marcel Engels" Just want to let you know that I have the solution to my clicking problems! :-) When in multi-mode: all the midi-channels I didn't use were called A0: Overture (I did set the part-volume to -64). With this setting I got strange clicks at the beginning of a fast-attack sound. I changed all the channels that weren't in use to: B0:Low and the clicks were gone!! Ahhhh, now on with the show! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 16 11:48:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:47:04 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus and MIDI connections * From: "Howard Scarr" >assuming that you have a lo-cost 1IN/1OUT MIDI interface: Yep - 'fraid so... >If you want to record the controllers from the virus you will need to patch a MIDI cable from the >VIRUS OUT to COMPUTER IN. helps? Looks like I need a merger then. Thanx anyway! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 16 14:07:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:49:59 +0200 Subject: Access about the click problem * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Christoph asked me to forward this to the list: General remarks about the click problem: When the Virus runs in a Midi-Thru chain with other instruments you must set all parts (all Midi-channels), that the Virus shouldn't receive, to PART ENABLE = Off. If you just set the volume to zero, you won't here these parts, but the Virus calculates these parts and plays the voices, no matter of the volume setting. This can decrease the polyphony dramaticaly! When PART ENABLE = Off, the Virus ignores the incoming Midi messages. This is recommended not only for the Virus, but for all Midi instruments, that run in a Midi-Thru chain. Christoph Kemper ACCESS think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 16 14:07:08 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:56:22 +0200 Subject: OS 1.52 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" dear list, 1.52 is delayed, if all goes well until tomorrow. But that means it will include the fix (not just a fix, but a very smooth way to prevent audible note stealing) for the hanging note problem. bear with me, your weekend gigs will go well...;)) I will make sure to check back online often after posting 1.52 to ensure I'll be able to post different versions or fix links I broke...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 16 19:30:24 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:23:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Access about the click problem * From: "Marcel Engels" >When the Virus runs in a Midi-Thru chain with other instruments you must set >all parts (all Midi-channels), that the Virus shouldn't receive, to > >PART ENABLE = Off. Oops, guess I hadn't read that part in the manual. :-) Sorry! (now about these other clicks......oh no, I won't start again! it works perfectly!) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 16 20:19:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:15:59 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Sysex * From: "Howard Scarr" Does anybody know the Access System Exclusive ID? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 17 08:58:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:30:07 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: FX / EOT * From: Guenther Albrecht some weeks ago i reviewed sys 1.51 & stated that a lot of nice sounding fx were now gone. but i even found my end-of-tape fx! the magic is done with control knob 1 that will change clock speed. program a delay that has 109 or so feedback & max delay time. program a clock division: the smaller the faster. now play a sound, fade in the fx with knob 2 - knob 1 will now speed up or slow down the (virtual) tape. try different clock divisions in the delay! very fast clock speeds can be heard, too... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 17 18:59:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:01:26 +0200 Subject: 1.52 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" 1.52 is posted to the site. It is a zip file that contains the "First", the "Second" file and a ReadMe with instructions and everything. it's on the download page... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 17 21:58:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:49:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: 1.52 * From: "Rob Papen" Sorry but I can not find a 1.52 software Canine. Regards and there is no Vaccine for the Virus. Rob Papen -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 17 april 1998 20:17 Onderwerp: 1.52 >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >1.52 is posted to the site. > >It is a zip file that contains the "First", the "Second" file and a ReadMe with instructions and everything. > >it's on the download page... > > >think different! > >Canine > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 00:40:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:39:12 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: OS 1.52 on www.tsi-gmbh.de * From: "w.schneider" Hi list, You can download the new OS 1.52 from the TSI web-site at http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access/virus_system.html Don't worry be happy... :-)) -----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht----- Von: access-list@teklab.com An: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: Freitag, 17. April 1998 23:38 Betreff: Re: 1.52 >* From: "Rob Papen" > >Sorry but I can not find a 1.52 software Canine. > >Regards and there is no Vaccine for the Virus. > >Rob Papen >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 17 april 1998 20:17 >Onderwerp: 1.52 > > >>* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>1.52 is posted to the site. >> >>It is a zip file that contains the "First", the "Second" file and a ReadMe with instructions and everything. >> >>it's on the download page... >> >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>-- >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 01:31:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:30:14 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: 1.52 * From: "Martin Selway" It's on the Access site. MARTIN mase@post5.tele.dk http://home5.inet.tele.dk/mase -----Original Message----- From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: fredag, april 17, 1998 23:23 Subject: Re: 1.52 >* From: "Rob Papen" > >Sorry but I can not find a 1.52 software Canine. > >Regards and there is no Vaccine for the Virus. > >Rob Papen >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 17 april 1998 20:17 >Onderwerp: 1.52 > > >>* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>1.52 is posted to the site. >> >>It is a zip file that contains the "First", the "Second" file and a ReadMe with instructions and everything. >> >>it's on the download page... >> >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>-- >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 01:36:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:35:39 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: 1.52 * From: "Martin Selway" ftp://ftp.tsi-gmbh.de/pub/tsi/access/virus/system/v1_52.zip -----Original Message----- From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: fredag, april 17, 1998 23:23 Subject: Re: 1.52 >* From: "Rob Papen" > >Sorry but I can not find a 1.52 software Canine. > >Regards and there is no Vaccine for the Virus. > >Rob Papen >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 17 april 1998 20:17 >Onderwerp: 1.52 > > >>* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>1.52 is posted to the site. >> >>It is a zip file that contains the "First", the "Second" file and a ReadMe with instructions and everything. >> >>it's on the download page... >> >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>-- >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 01:48:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:48:55 +0200 Subject: Re: 1.52 * From: plasmatica hey man, just try www.tsi-gmbh.de and select the download section!!!!! it works wonderful. think that i won't sleep this weekend!!! greetings to everyone, love & smile, plasmatica access-list@teklab.com schrieb: >* From: "Rob Papen" > >Sorry but I can not find a 1.52 software Canine. > >Regards and there is no Vaccine for the Virus. > >Rob Papen >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 17 april 1998 20:17 >Onderwerp: 1.52 > >>* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>1.52 is posted to the site. >> >>It is a zip file that contains the "First", the "Second" file and a ReadMe with instructions and everything. >> >>it's on the download page... >> >> >>think different! >> >>Canine >> >>-- >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >>ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>********** ********** >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 13:04:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:07:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: "Uwe F. Bauer" -----Original Message----- From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Montag, 13. April 1998 18:55 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >p.s. hey canine, the dreaded ghost parameter change bug is back on mine!! when a sound is being sequenced just at a random point the filter cutoff will lowe or higher, out of the blue?????????? This bug is the result of tiny changes in the potentiometer resistance of the ViRUS knobs that happen due to vibrations of the synth (while playing sequences/patches at medium to high volume levels for example) and because of thermal noise. These changes seem to happen randomly - sometimes you get rid of them for days and suddenly they tend to appear every few minutes. The result is that the relating sound parameter jumps to the value the "flickering" knob delivers, which leads to a -- sometimes barely notable, other times very drastic -- timbre change. I really _HATE_ this bug (it sometimes hits other parameters than filter cutoff, too, for example the envelope attacks), because you have to turn off the knobs in the menu to get a sequence recorded properly. To fix that problem, the guard time (in German the so-called "TOT-ZEIT") of the knobs has to be increased. This means that these uncontrolled changes of potentiometer values aren't payed any attention by the ViRUS operating system, as long as the flickering value doesn't stabilize for a certain amount of time, which indicates that the parameter was changed intentionally by turning the knob. Cheers, Uwe F. Bauer ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 20:43:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:49:24 -0700 Subject: Re: OS 1.52 * From: b la rock access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >dear list, > >1.52 is delayed, if all goes well until tomorrow. But that means it will include .... a very smooth way to prevent audible note stealing..... I guess this didn't make it into the new operating system ? p.s. How many people work at access in the VIRUS division ? Is it a large company ? K.9 are you an employee or just a man who loves the machine ..... ? how many people are programming ? how many people are testing ..(professionally ... not us !) ... how many times will the operating system be upgraded ? what are the limitations of the machine in respect to operating system fixes .. how much memory is in the machine for operating systems .. ? how large is the current operating sytem ? thanks. bye. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 22:41:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:35:44 +0200 Subject: OS 1.52 is there now * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" a few rough days made me break my promise.... I couldn#t sit and watch your mails coming in.... I had to leave the house to go to a nice party. bad timing. I guess I forgot to upload something. I fixed it now, OS 1.52 is up on my page now. Please excuse the error... This time TSi was faster...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 18 22:41:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:42:29 +0200 Subject: Re: OS 1.52 * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >* From: b la rock >>1.52 is delayed, if all goes well until tomorrow. But that means it will include .... a very smooth way to prevent audible note stealing..... > >I guess this didn't make it into the new operating system ? Oh yes, it's in there. It was in there all the time, I misunderstood Christoph there. But the hanging note thing is fixed. Or so I am told. But I believe it. >p.s. How many people work at access in the VIRUS division ? Is it a large company ? K.9 are you an employee or just a man who loves the machine ..... ? I don't know exactly how many people. It's a small company though with a few enthusiastic developers and programmers. Very nice people with some very intersting ideas in their heads. I am not one of them though, I bought a Virus early on and decided to make a webpage for it since I am very enthusiastic about it also. >how many people are programming ? how many people are testing ..(professionally ... not us !) ... how many times will the operating system be upgraded ? I believe many many times to come. There are still features they are planning to implement (I know Access looks at the Wishlist page on a regular basis) and they are commited to a long term support of the Virus platform. what are the limitations of the machine in respect to operating >system fixes .. how much memory is in the machine for operating systems .. ? how large is the current operating sytem ? Well, you can download the OS and see for yourself. I believe there is still a lot of room for new things, but I must admit that I don't know anything about this things. I don't write anything for the Virus and have no insights into such technical issues. write to TSi if you really need to know, they can probably help you out on the very technical things there. Maybe these are secret things though... Ewige Blumenkraft. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 19 16:35:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 10:42:33 -0400 Subject: atn: jay vaughn * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net jay, please email me, ive lost your address thx weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 19 16:54:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:01:49 -0400 Subject: Re: we need output!!!!!!!! * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net kai any word if they will still be upping the output level???? weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 19 17:17:04 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:24:41 -0400 Subject: muti mode edits * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net just started to use muti mode, and have ??'s i have a muti setup with 4 or 5 different sounds, get a sequence started, then go to edit one of the patches (say filter cutoff) the value changes, but when i go to save it, it wont save????? also how do we access the non panel parameters (i.e. pananorama) when in multi mode??? thanxx for the help weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 19 17:18:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:26:09 -0400 Subject: Re: FX / EOT * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net yes this is a magical effect panaorma is pretty cool as well!! weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >some weeks ago i reviewed sys 1.51 & stated that a lot of nice sounding fx were now gone. but i even found my end-of-tape fx! the magic is done with control knob 1 that will change clock speed. program a delay that has 109 or so feedback & max delay time. program a clock division: the smaller the faster. now play a sound, fade in the fx with knob 2 - knob 1 will now speed up or slow down the (virtual) tape. try different clock divisions in the delay! very fast clock speeds can be heard, too... > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 19 20:07:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:07:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: 1.52 - one great improvement * From: Gene Schwartz One feature (or lack thereof) that drove me crazy in 1.51 (and I assume below) was that each part of a multi instrument would retain its own position on the edit page, instead of the whole multi having a synchronized edit display. If you wanted to edit the same parameter on several parts it was a nightmare of knob twisting - I actually lost several fingers this way. This has been fixed. Although I have not put it through a vigorous workout, 1.52 also seems more stable in static input mode also, and the migration of multi parts between banks seems to have stopped. But one trial suggests that the dump of 1 multibank still doesn't work correctly - I'll have to try it again to rule out user error. In any case, it seems like great work for a little .01 upgrade. I'm impressed and optimistic. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 19 20:18:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: muti mode edits * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >just started to use muti mode, and have ??'s i have a muti setup with 4 or 5 different sounds, get a sequence started, then go to edit one of the patches (say filter cutoff) the value changes, but when i go to save it, it wont save????? also how do we access the non panel parameters (i.e. pananorama) when in multi mode??? thanxx for the help >weld >********** ********** In order to save the single while in multi mode, and also to be able to access many of the single's edit parameters you need to have the led's under both the multi and the single button on, i.e. press both buttons. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 19 20:22:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:30:19 -0400 Subject: Re: muti mode edits * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net thanx gene you rule!!!!! weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 08:25:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:25:35 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: MIDI Implementation & SysEx * From: Guenther Albrecht hi, nice that the controller list is on canines web site, but i would rather prefer a more complete implementaton document with all the sysEx. i have been calling for it since 24/12/97, this is 4 months & 2 new system versions later. is it so difficult to do this? does access know so few about the internals? i just do not understand the reason for that. it makes any editor/librarian impossible to construct at the moment - i would bet that the new galaxy document is crippeled like mine was (but has the new length). anyone send me that information? i would print it out & send it to all people who request it in written form... regards .g.a. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 09:42:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:48:30 +0200 Organization: COMPAREX Sistemas Inform·ticos. Subject: Hello all! * From: Roman Vargas Sierra Hello all, I'm new to this list, right now I don't have the virus (!?¡¿) but I'm planning to purchase it (when It arrive here in Spain (maybe next year)). Could anyone tell me what's the real situation whit this machine (I could not find any FAQ like with the A3K-list), any important bug, maybe some hardware bug, ... Thanx. P.s.:I see that this list is a little bit quiter than the a3k-list (thanks Jay). ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 10:38:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 98 10:40:07 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: MIDI Implementation & SysEx-- * From: Raymund Beyer Hello Guenther, your right. I am also waiting for the sys-ex stuff since a few weeks. Please Canine, can you look for this? Maybe for the beginning it would be enough to have the dump request commands, so that a simple bankloader can be built for the Sound Diver and Galaxy. Its no fun sorting sounds in the synth itself :-( . Also if the Access guys are very busy and dont have written down the full sysex implementation, it should be possible to write down the dump requests for the banks a & b, multi bank and single sound und single multi and send it to you. I think this would help for the first. Access we love you for the Virus, but please help us workin with it :-)))) I have started to build an environment for Logic. If farely not completed, but lots of the main things are workin. If anyone is interested send me a private mail and i´ll post it back to you. Thanx in advance to Access and canine Ray >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >hi, > >nice that the controller list is on canines web site, but i would rather prefer a more complete implementaton document with all the sysEx. i have been calling for it since 24/12/97, this is 4 months & 2 new system versions later. is it so difficult to do this? does access know so few about the internals? i just do not understand the reason for that. it makes any editor/librarian impossible to construct at the moment - i would bet that the new galaxy document is crippeled like mine was (but has the new length). anyone send me that information? i would print it out & send it to all people who request it in written form... > >regards > >.g.a. > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 12:22:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:20:56 +0200 Organization: COMPAREX Sistemas Inform·ticos. Subject: SuperNova * From: Roman Vargas Sierra Hello, How does the virus compare with the Novation SuperNova. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 16:34:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:24:09 +0200 Subject: Re: MIDI Implementation & SysEx * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:25 Uhr +0200 on 20.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >hi, > >nice that the controller list is on canines web site, but i would rather prefer a more complete implementaton document with all the sysEx. i have been calling for it since 24/12/97, this is 4 months & 2 new system versions later. is it so difficult to do this? does access know so few Don't get so upset, Access probably had more important things to do. A Sysex thing is coming this week, I talked to Christoph about it this weekend. it's coming. Patience! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 16:34:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:25:31 +0200 Subject: Re: Hello all! * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:48 Uhr +0200 on 20.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Roman Vargas Sierra Could anyone tell me what's the real situation whit this machine (I could not find any FAQ like with the A3K-list), any important bug, maybe some hardware bug, ... Look at http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ (as quoted in the signature of this posting...;) there is a FAQ and a lot of other interesting things. enjoy think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 12:22:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Organization: Daimler-Benz Aerospace AG Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:24:38 -0100 Priority: normal Subject: sysex in multi mode * From: "Joachim Glasstetter" OS ver. 1.51 I have a problem concerning the multi mode What i want: edit several single programs ,dump them to my logic and then switch the virus to multi-mode and send the dumped single programs out on different midi channels, so that i have a multi setup with my edited, and sequencer saved sounds. (i do not want to save a multi for every track i do in my virus). the problem is, that only part 1 with receive channel 1 reacts if i re-send a program-dump to the virus. Is the midi channel also saved in the sysex program dump? I think to send it to a different midi channel, than the one i received it, i have to edit the sysex dump, right? hmmm wich data byte represents the midi channel? or am i wrong at all? greetings, Joicham ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 18:10:21 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:24:22 +0200 Subject: SysEx documentation * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" This is a preliminary version of the VIRUS SysEx documentation. The full version will include the Multi Dump table, witch is not similar to the Multi Parameter table. Also, some more notes and remarks will be added. VIRUS MIDI SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE IMPLEMENTATION The Parameters of the VIRUS are organized in three so-called pages A, B and C. Each page contents 128 parameters, addressed by numbers from 0 to 127. Each parameter is repesented by one byte with a maximum value of 127. All parameters are individually accessible by SysEx-Parameterchange. The pages A and B represent a Single-Program, so a Single-Program contents 256 Bytes. Page A (LowPage) contents Single parameters that are usefull for MIDI automation. The parameters of this page are additionally controllable by MIDI Control Change. The sending and reception of MIDI Control Change can be enabled or disabled by MIDI CONTROL LowPage (CTRL menu). When disabled (LowPage=SysEx), the VIRUS only sends and receives SysEx Parameter Change on Page A. When enabled (LowPage=Contr), the VIRUS sends MIDI Control Change on parameter movement, and receives both MIDI Control Change and SysEx-Parameterchange on Page A. The default setting is LowPage=Contr. The remaining Single parameters in Page B (HiPage) are additionally controllable by MIDI Polyphonic Pressure (!). The sending and reception of MIDI Poly Pressure can be enabled or disabled by MIDI CONTROL HiPage (CTRL menu). When disabled (LowPage=SysEx), the VIRUS only sends and receives SysEx Parameter Change on Page B. When enabled (LowPage=PolyPrs), the VIRUS sends MIDI Poly Pressure on parameter movement, and receives both MIDI Poly Pressure and SysEx Parameter Change on Page B. This feature should not be used in connection with a keyboard that sends Polyphonic Pressure. The default setting is LowPage=SysEx. Page C contents Multi parameters and Global parameters. These parameters are send and recept only by SysEx Parameter Change. In the following, all bytes are shown in hexadecimal representation. Control Change message (only Page A) Bc :Status byte, n=MIDI channel nn :Parameter Number 0..127 (see parameter list Bank A) vv :Parameter Value 0..127 (see parameter list Bank A) Note: The Control Change messages are defined as Performance Controller (e.g. Modulation Wheel or Hold Pedal) or Sound Parameters (e.g. Cutoff or Patch Volume). The Performance Controllers are not stored with a Single-Sound. If more than one Multi Part is set to the same MIDI channel, all Parts on this MIDI channel receive the same Performance Controllers. The Sound Parameters are stored with a Single Sound. If more than one Multi Part is set to the same MIDI channel, the Sound Parameter is recept only by the Multi Part with the lowest part number. Example: B0,21,40 Set oscillator balance (21 hex = 33 dec) on MIDI channel 1 to the middle position (40 hex =64 dec). Polyphonic Pressure message (only Page B) Ac :Status byte, n=MIDI channel nn :Parameter Number 0..127 (see parameter list Bank B) vv :Parameter Value 0..127 (see parameter list Bank B) Example: A2,07,25 Control LFO3 Rate on MIDI channel 3 (!). System-Exclusive-Message F0 :Start of System Exclusive 00 :Manufacturer ID 1 (Access Music Electronics) 20 :Manufacturer ID 2 (Access Music Electronics) 33 :Manufacturer ID 3 (Access Music Electronics) 01 :Product ID (Virus) dd :Device ID 00..0F: individual; 10: omni. [message] F7 :End of System Exclusive Note: Device ID Messages: SysEx Parameterchange: [message]= 7x :Parameterchange 70:page A; 71:page B; 72:page C pp :Part number 00..0F: Multi part 1..16; 40: Single nn :Parameter Number 0..127 (see parameter list) vv :Parameter Value 0..127 (see parameter list) Note: The SysEx Parameterchange affects one of the sixteen single edit buffer in Multi Mode addressed by the part number (00..0F) or the Single buffer in Single Mode (part number 40). If a global parameter or a Multi parameter is accessed, which is not part-sensitive (e.g. Input Boost or Multi Delay Time), the part number is ignored. Example: F0,00,20,33,01,10,70,05,28,5F,F7 Set Cutoff on Part 6 to decimal value 95. (10: device ID omni; 70: page A, 05: part 6; 28: parameter Cutoff, 5F: decimal value 95) Single Dump [message]= 10 :Single Dump bb :Bank Number 00: Single Edit puffer; 01:single bank A; 02:single bank B ss :Program Number 0..127 [256 single bytes] cs ;Checksum Note: When bank number is set to 00, the program number is the part number that addresses one of the sixteen Single Edit buffer in Multi Mode (00..0F) or the Single buffer in Single Mode (40). [256 single bytes] contents the Single parameter pages A and B, each 128 bytes long. Checksum is the sum (DeviceID + 10 + BankNumber + ProgramNumber + [256 single bytes]) AND 7F. A dump with a wrong checksum will be recept, but an error message will appear on the display. Multi Dump [message]= 11 :Multi Dump bb :Bank Number 00:Multi Edit puffer; 01:multi bank ss :Program Number 0..127 [256 multi bytes] cs ;Checksum Note: When bank number 00, the dump destination is the Multi Edit buffer. In this case the program number is ignored. [256 multi bytes] contents the Multi parameters in a special succession. See tab. YYY. Checksum is the sum (DeviceID + 11 + BankNumber + ProgramNumber + [256 multi bytes]) AND 7F. A dump with a wrong checksum will be recept, but an error message will appear on the display. Single Request [message]= 30 :Single Request bb :Bank Number 00: Single Edit puffer; 01:single bank A; 02:single bank B ss :Program Number 0..127 Note: When bank number is set to 00, the program number is the part number that addresses one of the sixteen Single Edit buffer in Multi Mode (00..0F) or the Single buffer in Single Mode (40). Multi Request [message]= 31 :Multi Request bb :Bank Number 00:Multi Edit puffer; 01:multi bank ss :Program Number 0..127 Note: When bank number 00, the dump destination is the Multi Edit buffer. In this case the program number is ignored. Single Bank Request [message]= 32 :Single Bank Request bb :Bank Number 01:single bank A; 02:single bank B Multi Bank Request [message]= 33 :Multi Bank Request bb :Bank Number 01:multi bank PAGE A No. Class Name Range Value A 0 p Bank Select 0..1 0: Bank A, 1: Bank B A 1 p Modulation Wheel A 2 p Breath Controller A 3 p Contr 3 A 4 p Foot Controller A 5 a Portamento Time 0..127 A 6 p Data Slider A 7 p Channel Volume 0..127 A 8 p Balance A 9 p Contr 9 A 10 a Panorama 0..127 -64..0..+63: Left..Center..Right A 11 p Expression A 12 p Contr 12 A 13 p Contr 13 A 14 p Contr 14 A 15 p Contr 15 A 16 p Contr 16 A 17 a Osc1 Shape 0..127 -64..0..+63: Wave..Saw..Pulse A 18 a Osc1 Pulsewidth 0..127 A 19 a Osc1 Wave Select 0..64 Sine, Triangle, Wave 3..64 A 20 a Osc1 Semitone 0..127 -64..+63 A 21 a Osc1 Keyfollow 0..127 -64..+63, Default: 32 A 22 a Osc2 Shape 0..127 -64..0..+63: Wave..Saw..Pulse A 23 a Osc2 Pulsewidth 0..127 A 24 a Osc2 Wave Select 0..64 Sine, Triangle, Wave 3..64 A 25 a Osc2 Semitone 0..127 -64..+63 A 26 a Osc2 Detune 0..127 A 27 a Osc2 FM Amount 0..127 A 28 a Osc2 Sync 0..1 0:Off 1:On A 29 a Osc2 Filt Env Amt 0..127 -64..+63 A 30 a FM Filt Env Amt 0..127 -64..+63 A 31 a Osc2 Keyfollow 0..127 -64..+63: Default: 32 A 32 p Bank Select 0..1 0: Bank A; 1: Bank B A 33 a Osc Balance 0..127 -64..+63: Osc1..Osc1+2..Osc2 A 34 a Suboscillator Volume 0..127 A 35 a Suboscillator Shape 0..1 0:Square 1:Triangle A 36 a Osc Mainvolume 0..127 A 37 a Noise Volume 0..127 A 40 a Cutoff 0..127 A 41 a Cutoff2 0..127 -64..+63 A 42 a Filter1 Resonance 0..127 A 43 a Filter2 Resonance 0..127 A 44 a Filter1 Env Amt 0..127 A 45 a Filter2 Env Amt 0..127 A 46 a Filter1 Keyfollow 0..127 -64..+63 A 47 a Filter2 Keyfollow 0..127 -64..+63 A 48 a Filter Balance 0..127 -64..+63 A 49 a Saturation Curve 0..6 0:Off 1:Light 2:Soft 3:Middle 4:Hard 5:Digital 6: Shaper A 51 a Filter1 Mode 0..3 0:LP 1:HP 2:BP 3:BS A 52 a Filter2 Mode 0..3 0:LP 1:HP 2:BP 3:BS A 53 a Filter Routing 0..3 0:Ser4 1:Ser6 2:Par4 3:Split A 54 a Filter Env Attack 0..127 A 55 a Filter Env Decay 0..127 A 56 a Filter Env Sustain 0..127 A 57 a Filter Env Sustain Time 0..127 -64..+63: Fall..Infinite..Rise A 58 a Filter Env Release 0..127 A 59 a Amp Env Attack 0..127 A 60 a Amp Env Decay 0..127 A 61 a Amp Env Sustain 0..127 A 62 a Amp Env Sustain Time 0..127 -64..+63: Fall..Infinite..Rise A 63 a Amp Env Release 0...127 A 64 p Hold Pedal A 65 p Portamento Pedal A 66 p Sostenuto Pedal A 67 a Lfo1 Rate 0..127 A 68 a Lfo1 Shape 0..5 0:Sine 1:Tri 2:Saw 3:Square 4:S&H 5:S&G A 69 a Lfo1 Env Mode 0..1 0:Off 1:On A 70 a Lfo1 Mode 0..1 0:Poly 1:Mono A 71 a Lfo1 Symmetry 0..127 -64..+63 A 72 a Lfo1 Keyfollow Amt 0..127 A 74 a Osc1 Lfo1 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 75 a Osc2 Lfo1 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 76 a PW Lfo1 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 77 a Reso Lfo1 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 78 a FiltGain Lfo1 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 79 a Lfo2 Rate 0..127 A 80 a Lfo2 Shape 0..5 0:Sine 1:Tri 2:Saw 3:Square 4:S&H 5:S&G A 81 a Lfo2 Env Mode 0..1 0:Off 1:On A 82 a Lfo2 Mode 0..1 0:Poly 1:Mono A 83 a Lfo2 Symmetry 0..127 -64..+63 A 85 a Lfo2 Keytrigger 0..127 0:Off, 1..127:Keytrigger Phase A 86 a OscShape Lfo2 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 87 a FmAmount Lfo2 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 88 a Cutoff1 Lfo2 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 89 a Cutoff2 Lfo2 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 90 a Panorama Lfo2 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 A 91 a Patch Volume 0..127 A 93 a Transpose 0..127 -64..+63 A 94 a Key Mode 0..4 0:Poly 1..4: Mono1-4 A 97 a Twin Mode 0..1 0:Off 1:On A 98 a Twin Detune 0..127 A 99 a Panorama Spread 0..127 A100 a Twin Lfo Phase 0..127 -64..+63 A101 a Input Mode 0..2 0:Off 1:Dynamic 2:Static A102 a Input Select 0..8 0:In1L 1:In1L+R 2:In1R .. A105 a Chorus Mix 0..127 -64..+63 A106 a Chorus Rate 0..127 A107 a Chorus Depth 0..127 A108 a Chorus Delay 0..127 A109 a Chorus Feedback 0..127 A110 a Chorus Lfo Shape 0..5 0:Sine 1:Tri 2:Saw 3:Square 4:S&H 5:S&G A113 a,ms Effect Send 0..127 A114 a,ms,np Delay Time 0..127 A115 a,ms,np Delay Feedback 0..127 A116 a,ms,np Delay Rate 0..127 A117 a,ms,np Delay Depth 0..127 A118 a,ms,np Delay Lfo Shape 0..5 0:Sine 1:Tri 2:Saw 3:Square 4:S&H 5:S&G A123 p All Notes Off PAGE B No. Class Name Range Value B 1 b Arp Mode 0..4 0:Off 1:Up 2:Down 3:Up&Down 4:AsPlayed B 3 b Arp Octave Range 0..3 B 4 b Arp Hold Enable 0..1 0:Off 1:On B 7 b Lfo3 Rate 0..127 B 8 b Lfo3 Shape 0..5 0:Sine 1:Tri 2:Saw 3:Square 4:S&H 5:S&G B 9 b Lfo3 Mode 0..1 0:Poly 1:Single B 10 b Lfo3 Keyfollow 0..127 B 11 b Lfo3 Destination 0..5 0:Osc1 1:Osc1+2 2:Osc2 3:PW1 4:PW1+2 5:PW2 B 12 b Osc Lfo3 Amount 0..127 B 13 b Osc ModWhl Amount 0..127 B 16 b Clock Tempo 0..127 63..190 BPM B 17 b Arp Clock 0..9 1/64..3/4 B 18 b Lfo1 Clock 0..10 Off, 1/64..4/1 B 19 b Lfo2 Clock 0..10 Off, 1/64..4/1 B 20 b,ms,np Delay Clock 0..10 Off, 1/64..3/4 B 26 b Bender Range Up 0..127 -64..+63 B 27 b Bender Range Down 0..127 -64..+63 B 28 b Bender Scale 0..1 0:Linear 1:Exponential B 30 b Filter1 Env Polarity 0..1 0:Negative 1:Positive B 31 b Filter2 Env Polarity 0..1 0:Negative 1:Positive B 32 b Filter2 Cutoff Link 0..1 0:Off 1:On B 33 b Filter Keytrack Base 0..127 C-1..G9 B 35 b Osc Init Phase 0..127 0:Off 1..127 B 36 b Punch Intensity 0..127 B 47 b Osc1 Shape Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 48 b Osc2 Shape Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 49 b PulseWidth Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 50 b Fm Amount Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 52 b Filter1 EnvAmt Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 53 b Filter1 EnvAmt Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 56 b Resonance1 Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 57 b Resonance2 Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 60 b Amp Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 61 b Panorama Velocity 0..127 -64..+63 B 62 b Definable1 Single see Definable List B 63 b Definable2 Single see Definable List B 64 b Assign1 Source see Assign Sources List B 65 b Assign1 Destination see Assign Destinations List B 66 b Assign1 Amount 0..127 -64..+63 B 67 b Assign2 Source see Assign Sources List B 68 b Assign2 Destination1 see Assign Destinations List B 69 b Assign2 Amount1 0..127 -64..+63 B 70 b Assign2 Destination2 see Assign Destinations List B 71 b Assign2 Amount2 0..127 -64..+63 B 72 b Assign3 Source see Assign Sources List B 73 b Assign3 Destination1 see Assign Destinations List B 74 b Assign3 Amount1 0..127 -64..+63 B 75 b Assign3 Destination2 see Assign Destinations List B 76 b Assign3 Amount2 0..127 -64..+63 B 77 b Assign3 Destination3 see Assign Destinations List B 78 b Assign3 Amount3 0..127 -64..+63 B112 b Single Name Char1 32..127 ASCII B113 b Single Name Char2 32..127 ASCII B114 b Single Name Char3 32..127 ASCII B115 b Single Name Char4 32..127 ASCII B116 b Single Name Char5 32..127 ASCII B117 b Single Name Char6 32..127 ASCII B118 b Single Name Char7 32..127 ASCII B119 b Single Name Char8 32..127 ASCII B120 b Single Name Char9 32..127 ASCII B121 b Single Name Char10 32..127 ASCII B122 b Filter Select 0..2 0:Filt1 1:Filt2 2:Filt1*2 PAGE C No. Class Name Range Value C 5 m,np Multi Name Char1 32..127 ASCII C 6 m,np Multi Name Char2 32..127 ASCII C 7 m,np Multi Name Char3 32..127 ASCII C 8 m,np Multi Name Char4 32..127 ASCII C 9 m,np Multi Name Char5 32..127 ASCII C 10 m,np Multi Name Char6 32..127 ASCII C 11 m,np Multi Name Char7 32..127 ASCII C 12 m,np Multi Name Char8 32..127 ASCII C 13 m,np Multi Name Char9 32..127 ASCII C 14 m,np Multi Name Char10 32..127 ASCII C 22 m,np Delay Output Select 0..15 0:Out1L 1:Out1L+R 2:Out1R .. C 34 m Part Midi Channel 0..15 1..16 C 35 m Part Low Key 0..127 C-1..G9 C 36 m Part High Key 0..127 C-1..G9 C 37 m Part Transpose 0..127 -64..+63 C 38 m Part Detune 0..127 -64..+63 C 39 m Part Volume 0..127 -64..+63; 0 Unity Gain C 40 m Part Midi Volume Init 0..127 Off, 1..127 >C 40 m Part Output Select 0..15 0:Out1L 1:Out1L+R 2:Out1R .. C 72 m Part Enable 0..1 0:Off 1:On C 73 m Part Midi Volume Enable 0..1 0:Off 1:On C 74 m Part Hold Pedal Enable 0..1 0:Off 1:On C 78 m Part Prog Change Enable 0..1 0:Off 1:On C 85 g Glob Prog Change Enable 0..1 0:Off 1:On C 86 g Glob Midi Volume Enable 0..1 C 90 g Input Thru Level 0..127 C 91 g Input Boost 0..127 C 92 g Master Tune -64..+63 C 93 g Device ID 0..16 1..16, Omni C 94 g Midi Control Low Page 0..1 0:SysEx 1:Contr C 95 g Midi Control High Page 0..1 0:SysEx 1:PolyPrs C 96 g Midi Arpeggiator 0..1 0:Intern 1:Int+Midi C 97 g Knob Display 0..3 0:Off 1:Short 2:Long 3:On C 98 g Midi Dump Tx 0..4 0:Single 1:SingleBankA 2:SingleBankB ... C 99 g Midi Dump Rx 0..4 0:Disable 1:Enable 2:ForceToBankA ... C110 g Definable1 Mode 0..2 0:Single 1:Global 2:Midi C111 g Definable2 Mode 0..2 0:Single 1:Global 2:Midi C112 g Definable1 Global see Definable List C113 g Definable2 Global see Definable List C114 g Definable1 Midi 0..127 C115 g Definable2 Midi 0..127 C116 g Expert Mode 0..1 0:0ff 1:On C117 g Knob Mode 0..3 0:Off 1:Jump 2:Snap 3:Relative C118 g Memory Protect 0..1 0:0ff 1:On C120 g Soft Thru 0..1 0:0ff 1:On C121 g Panel Destination 0..2 0:Internal 1:Int+Midi 2:Midi C123 g Part Number 0..15;40 0..15:Multi Part 1..16; 40:Single Mode C124 g Global Channel 0..15 1..16 C125 g Led Mode 0..1 0:Lfo 1:Input C126 g LCD Contrast 0..127 C127 g Master Volume 0..127 Classes: p: Performance Controller Accessible by Control message. Performance Controllers are not stored with a Single-Sound. If more than one Multi Part is set to the same MIDI channel, all Parts on this MIDI channel receive the same Performance Controllers. a: Sound Parameter of Bank A Accessible by Control message, SysEx-Parameterchange and Single-Dump. The Sound Parameters are stored with a Single Sound. When recept as Control Message, the Sound Parameter is recept only by the Multi Part with the lowest part number, if more than one Multi Part is set to the same MIDI channel. When recept as SysEx-Parameterchange or Single-Dump, the part is addressed by the part number irrespective of the actual MIDI channel setting. b: Sound Parameter of Bank B Accessible by MIDI Polyphonic Pressure, SysEx-Parameterchange and Single-Dump. The Sound Parameters are stored with a Single Sound. When recept as Polyphonic Pressure, the Sound Parameter is recept only by the Multi Part with the lowest part number, if more than one Multi Part is set to the same MIDI channel. When recept as SysEx-Parameterchange or Single-Dump, the part is addressed by the part number irrespective of the actual MIDI channel setting. m: Multi Parameter Accessible by SysEx-Parameterchange and Multi-Dump The Multi Parameters are stored with a Multi Patch. ms: Multi/Single Parameter When in Single Mode, the parameter is recept and stored with the Single Sound. When in Multi Mode, the parameter is recept and stored with the Multi Patch. In Multi Mode the Single Sound settings are ignored while the corresponding Multi Patch settings are active. np: Non-part-sensitive Sound Parameter When in Multi Mode, the parameter affects all Multi Parts. g: Global Parameter The Global Parameters are independend of Single Sounds or Multi Patches and non-part sensitive. Notes: On non-part-sensitive parameters the part number is ignored, but must still be send as any value. The Virus can be switched between Multi Mode and Single Mode by parameter C123 Part Number. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 18:09:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:44:40 +0200 Subject: Re: SuperNova * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:20 Uhr +0200 on 20.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >How does the virus compare with the Novation SuperNova. all I know about the supernova is hearsay and I don't want to pass that on. the only thing I have seen for myself is the user interface and that didn't exactly impress me. but that's all I can really say. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 18:33:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:39:34 -0700 Subject: 1.52 thing. * From: b la rock Will someone confirm if this is really happening... but i get this ..... : Using Sys 1.52 I have noticed that sometimes the left number on the display, which indicates the default value of the potentiometer for the patch, seems to be wrong. peace. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 18:39:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:45:25 -0700 Subject: I wish... maybe .... * From: b la rock I have a wish that the sub oscillator is not just a square wave but can be a sinus wave too..... sinus waves are so much cleaner in low frequencies and i find square waves a bit 'farty' .... Do you think this is a software possibility or not because of a hardware limitation. ? Thanks Peace. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 19:23:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:18:20 +0200 Subject: Sustain time * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I just need to say that the Sustain Time parameter is the most amazing thing that has happened to me today. I am listening to one note in one patch all afternoon and it is so alive. mutating. I know why this box is called the virus. I set the filter env amount to 0 but then used the filter env to modulate the FM Amount. slowly slowly slowly. amazing. There is so much going on in this sound, I don't even know where it comes from... must go back to the knobs now... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 20:07:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:49:28 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: SuperNova * From: Paul Nagle On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:20:56 +0200, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Roman Vargas Sierra How does the virus compare with the Novation SuperNova. The Virus is released and the SuperNova isn't. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 20:39:07 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:38:35 -0700 Subject: Re: SuperNova * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 05:49 PM 4/20/98 GMT, you wrote: >* From: Paul Nagle >>* From: Roman Vargas Sierra How does the virus compare with the Novation SuperNova. >The Virus is released and the SuperNova isn't. > Also, the Virus doesn't have a vocoder mic sticking out of it, and it doesn't have a weird PSR-ish sorta feel to it (which the SuperNova beta at NAMM did). j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven artistry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 22:22:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:13:14 -0700 Subject: Re: SuperNova * From: brian@sedona.net > You don't mean Quasimidi Sirius, do you? Brian >Also, the Virus doesn't have a vocoder mic sticking out of it, and it doesn't have a weird PSR-ish sorta feel to it (which the SuperNova beta at NAMM did). > >j. > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 22:52:45 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:46:50 -0700 Subject: Re: SuperNova * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 01:13 PM 4/20/98 -0700, you wrote: >* From: brian@sedona.net > >> > >You don't mean Quasimidi Sirius, do you? Brian > Oh yeah, that's what I meant. Oops... j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven artistry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 23:16:16 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: SuperNova * From: Simon Gatrall On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >At 05:49 PM 4/20/98 GMT, you wrote: >>* From: Paul Nagle >>>* From: Roman Vargas Sierra How does the virus compare with the Novation SuperNova. >>The Virus is released and the SuperNova isn't. >> > >Also, the Virus doesn't have a vocoder mic sticking out of it, and it doesn't have a weird PSR-ish sorta feel to it (which the SuperNova beta at NAMM did). Are you sure you're not thinking of the new Quasimidi synth? When I went by the Novation booth at NAMM they said that they weren't showing the SuperNova yet. Did you get some back room demo or something? -Simon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 23:16:20 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: SuperNova * From: Simon Gatrall On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >At 05:49 PM 4/20/98 GMT, you wrote: >>* From: Paul Nagle >>>* From: Roman Vargas Sierra How does the virus compare with the Novation SuperNova. >>The Virus is released and the SuperNova isn't. >> > >Also, the Virus doesn't have a vocoder mic sticking out of it, and it doesn't have a weird PSR-ish sorta feel to it (which the SuperNova beta at NAMM did). Are you sure you're not thinking of the new Quasimidi synth? When I went by the Novation booth at NAMM they said that they weren't showing the SuperNova yet. Did you get some back room demo or something? -Simon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 23:34:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:31:00 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: I wish... maybe .... * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: b la rock > >I have a wish that the sub oscillator is not just a square wave but can be a sinus wave too..... sinus waves are so much cleaner in low frequencies and i find square waves a bit 'farty' .... Well, it can also be a triangle (almost sinus :-)) and it certainly sounds rounder/better. For me the triangle/sinus sub-osc. works better for typical old Moog-basses. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 20 23:34:10 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:34:00 +0200 Subject: FWD: Re: Sub OSC * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Access speaks: The reason why we included a suboscillator was that the suboscillator takes nearly no calculation power doing a sqare wave or a triange wave. A sinus oscillator takes really too much power. 1. You can use e.g. Osc1 for creating a sinus wave (or any wave) one octave below Osc2 and you can even detune it. 2. Use the triangle wave on the suboscillator for a big bottom. In combination with the main oscillators the result will be similar as you would use a sinus wave. The triangle wave is very poor of harmonics, but has a strong base. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 21 00:25:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:31:29 -0700 Subject: Re: 1.52 thing. * From: b la rock Hmmm ... maybe i should lay off the drugs but it feels like the attack potentiometer behaves differently in 1.52 as well ..... ..... any one else ! peace . ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 21 03:34:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:42:15 -0400 Subject: logic editor * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net would the person withe the beta logic environment editor please email me a copy. thx wled ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 21 22:31:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:28:19 EDT Subject: Re: 1.52 thing. * From: CKe9644719 In einer eMail vom 20.04.1998 23:25:13, schreiben Sie: << Hmmm ... maybe i should lay off the drugs but it feels like the attack potentiometer behaves differently in 1.52 as well ..... ..... any one else ! >> ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 02:13:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:13:59 +0200 Subject: Re: 1.52 thing. * From: Marc i think lots of things are different now. but i bet it is going to become better and better! ich glaub', daß sich einiges geändert hat, aber das ganze system wird besser, gell? love & smile, marc access-list@teklab.com schrieb: >* From: CKe9644719 > >In einer eMail vom 20.04.1998 23:25:13, schreiben Sie: > ><< Hmmm ... > >maybe i should lay off the drugs but it feels like the attack potentiometer behaves differently in 1.52 as well ..... > >..... any one else ! >> >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 08:19:33 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:17:54 +0200 Subject: FM Characteristics * From: Junger Joerg EN36 Hi List, I was wondering, why there is no linear FM on the virus. To me, the frequency modulation of VC02 seems to be of only limited use, because as soon as the modulation index is more than maybe 5 or 6 the fundamental pitch is changing. While this might be ok for effect sounds, this is really annoying if I want to program a sound that has 'stable pitch'. I have tried FM on a Nordlead (in a shop) and there this phenomenon does not occur. Maybe the characteristics of the FM should be switchable? Regards Joerg ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 10:18:43 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:19:57 +0200 Subject: Re 1.52 thing/Attack/drugs * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" listen to the voice of access: Re 1.52 thing/Attack/drugs I hope my drugs are ok. No reason to change the Env-Attack algorithm since V1.09 and I'm sure I didn't tough it. Actually, we didn't change the behavior of the sound engine from 1.51 to 1.52; the changes we did only affected the environment, as listed in the readme file. I hope my drugs are ok. No reason to change the Env-Attack algorithm since V1.09 and I'm sure I didn't tough it. Actually, we didn't change the behavior of the sound engine from 1.51 to 1.52; the changes we did only affected the environment, as listed in the readme file. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 18:08:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:08:46 +0200 Subject: Spot the virus * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Have you ever heard any songs that contain sounds that could be a virus? I think I have. Track number 5 ("Blotter") on the CD "Music for Cats" by cEvin Key uses a snaredrum sound that could be "B60 SLAP-IT RP" by Rob Papen. Maybe slightly modified. Or maybe Rob modeled it after some drum thingee I have never heard... have you found any? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 18:08:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:09:56 +0200 Subject: Version. * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" funny how the virus used to say "1.51" and now starts up with "1,52" (. --> ,) stupid little things you realize on afternoons like this...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 19:03:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:58:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Version. * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan At 06:09 PM 4/22/98 +0200, you wrote: >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" funny how the virus used to say "1.51" and now starts up with "1,52" (. --> ,) >stupid little things you realize on afternoons like this...;) That's the European way of doing things, isn't it? How about Easter Eggs -- anyone found any in the Virus yet? No hidden tamagotchi menu's accessible through an arcane combination of keys or anything? j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven artistry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 21:25:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:24:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Spot the virus * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Spot the virus Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/22/98 6:08 PM * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >Have you ever heard any songs that contain sounds that could be a virus? I think I have. Track number 5 ("Blotter") on the CD "Music for Cats" by cEvin Key uses a snaredrum sound that could be "B60 SLAP-IT RP" by Rob Papen. Maybe slightly modified. Or maybe Rob modeled it after some drum thingee I have never heard... >have you found any? >think different! >Canine Good question. :) I found a sound the other day that might have been used but now I can't reproduce that sound again... oops... :) I'm sure I'll stumble across that sound again soon... Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 21:26:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:28:58 -0400 Subject: Re[2]: Version....DO NOT * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Version. Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/22/98 9:58 AM * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >How about Easter Eggs -- anyone found any in the Virus yet? No hidden tamagotchi menu's accessible through an arcane combination of keys or anything? Is there anyway we can print up some official "Do not Touch Me and Wait!" t-shirts......(the message at the end of loading up new OS) somehow I think that message is kinda funny. :) Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 21:51:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FM Characteristics * From: bob frye I agree with your thought of having linear and non lin FM on the Virus... while I think the Virus out-shines the Nord in many ways, the Nord does have a more musical FM routine. Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 22 21:59:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re[2]: Version....DO NOT * From: bob frye >Is there anyway we can print up some official "Do not Touch Me and Wait!" t-shirts......(the message at the end of loading up new OS) That would be quite the "inside joke" among we that are infected! >somehow I think that message is kinda funny. :) I agree.. it's got a certain European charm... when I was product development manager for Yamaha (SY77, SY99, etc..back the QX1 and TX816) we here in America had many good chuckles over the sayings that the Japanese engineers would program into the operating systems.. "Executing Now" was one of them that brought up all sorts of side comments.. When I was working on the QX3 prototype, there were many many inside programmer jokes burned into the developmental chips... various bombs and crashes that they knew about but had not yet fixed were accompanied by a graphic of Mt Fuji blowing up... I wondered why, if they had the time to program graphics to accompany crashes, why they didn't fix the bug in the first place! :-) Then there's the story of the CP70 grand piano with the "screwable" (and worse translations) legs! Bob ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 02:44:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:36:41 +0200 Subject: Virus and Microwave * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" If any of you own a Virus and an original Microwave (these days referred to as "Microwave I") and Emagic's Logic, you might want to check out an environment I put together that translates the front panel knobs on the Virus to Microwave Sysex messages and works sort of like the Microwave Programmer by Access. it is on the download page at the well known virus site. please feel free to comment. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 06:35:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com (Unverified) Subject: Virus wish * From: Gene Schwartz I'd like a multi part to be able to send out through multiple outputs. There are synths that allow this. That way you could send the direct signal from output 1&2, and send it through one of the auxilliary outputs simultaneously. Gene ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 22 08:46:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "J Remmen" To: Subject: Re: virus kb Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:42:55 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "J Remmen" 1700 for the rack?? i only paid 1150 new ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 9:47 PM Subject: Re: virus kb >* From Elhardt@aol.com > >(Jeff Barthel) wrote: >>>i spoke with someone there right after hearing about the kb version and was >told it would be out late April/early May here in the states and retail for >around $2200/$2300. not sure why the kb adds a grand to the cost though. still, i'd love to have one.<< > >The difference between $2200 for the kybd and $1700 for the rack is more like >a HALF a grand. But following is what someone else posted a little while back: > >seraglio@home.com (franklin) wrote: >>>I don't have a virus kb (yet) but will in a little over a week when they >become available here in the states. I was quoted a beautiful price of mere >pennies more than the module.<< > >It would be nice if people like this would post how much they were quoted and >from where. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 14:01:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: University of Salford Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:01:20 +0100 Priority: normal Subject: Bass? * From: I.R.W.Sutty@acoustics.salford.ac.uk In the review of the virus in the latest Sound on Sound magazine, the access virus is accused of lacking "warmth and depth" at the bass end. Does anyone who has used one have any opinions on this ? (I can't easily get to try one out before buying). Thanks... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 15:48:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:47:16 +0100 Organization: Soft Room Music CC: I.R.W.Sutty@acoustics.salford.ac.uk Subject: Re: Bass * From: Paul Nagle Re: bass end warmth... I was a little worried about writing that but since I believe it, wrote it. Turnkey offer a 7-day money back deal so you can try it with no worries though.... I hope the review came across as favourable - ?? The "bass thing" wouldn't stop me buying a Virus because I have three Waldorf Pulses which can handle the type of bass and solo voices I need. It was having the Nord Modular here that ultimately stopped me buying the Virus although I haven't ruled out getting one at a later date when my wife isn't looking... Paul P.S. Don't know if I'm alone here but I feel the sawtooth wave isn't really fat enough. If I compare the sawtooth from various other synths they all sound bigger, brassier and more powerful. I didn't mention this in the review because I'd already alluded to it slightly but what does anyone else think? The oscillators (to me) sound more "SH-101" than "Prodigy" if that makes sense..... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 16:10:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:11:00 +0100 Organization: Institut f. Immunologie Subject: Re: Bass? * From: alexander renner The Virus has the Bass you are creating, and you can create quite a lot things on this machine. A German magazine (Keys or Keyboard, I can«t remember) wrote: Before you buy a Novation Super Bass Station you should try the Virus, and the Bass Station has quite good bass sounds. I think the british guys are envious of the virus built in germany. ;) greetings sas ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 18:46:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [195.180.210.233] Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:45:25 PDT Subject: Re: Virus and Microwave * From: "mab ;-P" Hi! Very cool idea! But i¥m working with Cubase :-( I¥ll see if it is possible to do something like that for cubase (does anyone know if this is possible?) bye matthias >If any of you own a Virus and an original Microwave (these days referred to as "Microwave I") and Emagic's Logic, you might want to check out an environment I put together that translates the front panel knobs on the Virus to Microwave Sysex messages and works sort of like the Microwave Programmer by Access. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 19:08:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: bgould@pop.sirius.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:56:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Bass? * From: BGOULD > >In the review of the virus in the latest Sound on Sound magazine, the access virus is accused of lacking "warmth and depth" at the bass end. Does anyone who has used one have any opinions on this ? (I can't easily get to try one out before buying). Thanks... Actually, compared to all of the other modelled synths, the virus to me is the only one with warmth and depth. Definitely has alot more balls than the others. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 19:16:39 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:07:06 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Bass? * From: Paul Nagle On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:11:00 +0100, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >I think the british guys are envious of the virus built in germany. This particular British guy likes the Virus very much (check the review) and his favourite synths are from Germany and Sweden (Pulse, Microwave II,Nord Modular). He's also had the Virus over six months and even contributed some of the (less cool) factory patches. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 19:16:02 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:12:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Bass * From: "Howard Scarr" >* From: Paul Nagle Re: bass end warmth... >P.S. Don't know if I'm alone here but I feel the sawtooth wave isn't really fat enough. If I compare the sawtooth from various other synths they all sound bigger, brassier and more powerful. I didn't mention this in the review because I'd already alluded to it slightly but what does anyone else think? Sawtooth is sawtooth is (almost) sawtooth, especially these days. The sounds you're comparing have been sent through other modules (e.g. the amplifiers) - the differences are more likely to be found here. If you want a "fatter" sawtooth than a perfect one, try taking some of the top frequencies out of it... BTW: I'm a fairly old (43) synthi-freak (started with EMS gear in '72), and I think the Virus is the first virtual analog polysynth which can compare with the Oberheims/Synthex etc. I've tried the Nord Modular, but I really missed real pots and switches. All in all, I think the Virus is the best "analog polysynth" to date - or hopefully will be, as soon as the bugs are fixed! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 23 23:52:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:52:03 -0700 Subject: Access vs Nord Modular * From: "Christopher M. LaFata" Hello all, i have been lurking on here for a little while and have enjoyed all the banter. I'm sure this discussion was probably had more than once but since there are no archives I can't really tell. Anywyas..I am in the market for a virtual analog. At this point it seems to be a toss up between the nord modular and the virus. If anyone has tried out both of these synths could they please try and give me there impressions on the pros/cons of each. Thanks a lot. -topher- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 08:34:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:16:12 +0200 Subject: Re: Bass? * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" I don't really have that many things to compare it with, I have only briefly heard all those "classic" synths but I think the virus has lots of warmth and deep lo end. I made some subbass patches that can be earth shattering. And they don't even use the resonance... I will try to sample some tof those in the near future and post them to the site. hopefully they will satisfy your hunger for bass...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 08:34:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:20:48 +0200 Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" First off the Virus has one DSP whereas the Nord has four. The Virus has a fixed architecture with modulations wheras the Nord is totally flexible. this means more intuitive work on the virus and much more possibilites on the Nord Modular. In Germany the Virus costs about 2700 DM (the price was raised) wheras the Nord costs about 5000 DM, not counting a PC to program it. They both are great machines, but you really can't compare them. If you have the cash, by all means go for the modular if you think that you can get along with modular synthesis on a computer screen (I like it but it's not for everybody). If you doubt that you have the cash or the nerve, get the virus. They both sound just awesome in their own right. They are made for totally different purposed though. So the main thing to decide will probabyl be what you feel more comfortable in the situation where you are going to use it. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 01:19:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:20:13 +0200 Subject: Re: Bass * From: Marc yeah man, you re so damn right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah; it s the best analog! yeah, that s so nice, isn t it? marc access-list@teklab.com schrieb: >* From: "Howard Scarr" > >>* From: Paul Nagle Re: bass end warmth... >>P.S. Don't know if I'm alone here but I feel the sawtooth wave isn't really fat enough. If I compare the sawtooth from various other synths they all sound bigger, brassier and more powerful. I didn't mention this in the review because I'd already alluded to it slightly but what does anyone else think? > >Sawtooth is sawtooth is (almost) sawtooth, especially these days. The sounds you're comparing have been sent through other modules (e.g. the amplifiers) - the differences are more likely to be found here. If you want a "fatter" sawtooth than a perfect one, try taking some of the top frequencies out of it... > >BTW: I'm a fairly old (43) synthi-freak (started with EMS gear in '72), and I think the Virus is the first virtual analog polysynth which can compare with the Oberheims/Synthex etc. I've tried the Nord Modular, but I really missed real pots and switches. All in all, I think the Virus is the best "analog polysynth" to date - or hopefully will be, as soon as the bugs are fixed! > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 08:35:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:33:20 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:52:03 -0700, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >At this point it seems to be a toss up between the nord modular and the virus. If anyone has tried out both of these synths could they please try and give me there impressions on the pros/cons of each. I went through the same decision - email me privately for more info but basically I bought the Nord. It was a close thing and I'd still like both but....well, I can rabbit all day about this and here probably isn't the place... Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 09:17:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:10:35 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Bass * From: "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: access-list@teklab.com Aan: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Datum: donderdag 23 april 1998 20:33 Onderwerp: Re: Bass >* From: "Howard Scarr" > >>* From: Paul Nagle Re: bass end warmth... >>P.S. Don't know if I'm alone here but I feel the sawtooth wave isn't really fat enough. If I compare the sawtooth from various other synths they all sound bigger, brassier and more powerful. I didn't mention this in the review because I'd already alluded to it slightly but what does anyone else think? > >Sawtooth is sawtooth is (almost) sawtooth, especially these days. The sounds >you're comparing have been sent through other modules (e.g. the amplifiers) - the differences are more likely to be found here. If you want >a "fatter" sawtooth than a perfect one, try taking some of the top frequencies out of it... > >BTW: I'm a fairly old (43) synthi-freak (started with EMS gear in '72), and I think the Virus is the first virtual analog polysynth which can compare with the Oberheims/Synthex etc. I've tried the Nord Modular, but I really missed real pots and switches. All in all, I think the Virus is the best "analog polysynth" to date - or hopefully will be, as soon as the bugs are fixed! > > Indeed a good synth this Virus, big fun. But don't forget the Microwave II and XT !! I many cases the Microwave II and XT sounds even more analogue. But still , compaired to my old stuff...minimoog... jupiter-8..... I will keep on loving real analogue machines. Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 23 10:05:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "J Remmen" To: Subject: clock tempo question Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 01:01:33 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness im having a tough time getting the clock time to make an apperant effect on my parts. for instance ill make an arpeggiated part and raise or lower the clock tempo to now avail. im not sure what im missing. i dont have any incoming midi time either dbx X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 11:31:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:31:57 +0100 Organization: Institut f. Immunologie Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: alexander renner The price for the NordModular is not as high as canine wrote. I paid for a Rack in Germany 3500DM not 5000DM and the Keyboard Version costs 300DM more. Now I have both the Virus and the NordModular and I would never give back one of them, they are both great machines but it«s different to work with them. The Virus is a good deal for fast and practical working, I even think he has the better factorysounds and he has more sexappeal. Better for a quicky. :)))) For the NordModular you need more time and patience but it«s very fascinating and a open ended system. It is clear that you have more possibilities in sound developing but you have to learn how. Something for long nights. so save money and take both greetings sas ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 15:07:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:52:51 +0200 Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:33 Uhr +0200 on 24.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >like both but....well, I can rabbit all day about this and here probably isn't the place... if this isn't then where is the place? go ahead, I'd like to hear it! think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 16:40:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:42:29 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Bass * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: "Rob Papen" >Indeed a good synth this Virus, big fun. But don't forget the Microwave II and XT !! >I many cases the Microwave II and XT sounds even more analogue. But still , compaired to my old stuff...minimoog... jupiter-8..... I will keep on loving real analogue machines. Yep, thats the same way I think about it. The Virus is a superb machine, but its not a substitue for my other gear (it shouldn't). I love those too and I see the Virus just as an extra (but fantastic!) extra machine. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl btw Rob, I liked the interview in Interface. Nice zolderkamertje!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 16:59:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:57:30 +0100 Organization: Soft Room Music Subject: Re: Virus and Microwave * From: Paul Nagle >But im working with Cubase :-( >Ill see if it is possible to do something like that for cubase (does anyone know if this is possible?) I did something similar to control the Waldorf Pulse via the Virus. It's at http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk/resource.htm - there are other Cubase things there too plus some of my (early) Virus patches and Microwave II ones etc. None of the patches are as good as Rob Papen's though... Paul ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 18:50:56 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [195.180.210.233] Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:50:44 PDT Subject: Re: Virus and Microwave * From: "mab ;-P" Hi! 1000 Thanks! Matthias >I did something similar to control the Waldorf Pulse via the Virus. It's at http://www.softroom.demon.co.uk/resource.htm - there are other Cubase things there too plus some of my (early) Virus patches and Microwave II ones etc. None of the patches are as good as Rob Papen's though... > >Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 19:06:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:06:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >First off the Virus has one DSP whereas the Nord has four. The Virus has a fixed architecture with modulations wheras the Nord is totally flexible. > >this means more intuitive work on the virus and much more possibilites on the Nord Modular. > >In Germany the Virus costs about 2700 DM (the price was raised) wheras the Nord costs about 5000 DM, not counting a PC to program it. > >They both are great machines, but you really can't compare them. If you have the cash, by all means go for the modular if you think that you can get along with modular synthesis on a computer screen (I like it but it's not for everybody). And if you really have the cash, buy a Kyma. Not as easy an interface as the Nord Modular, but much more powerful. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 19:47:09 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:44:02 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:52:51 +0200, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >if this isn't then where is the place? > >go ahead, I'd like to hear it! OK - you're the boss. Brace yourself! First let me lay my cards on the table - I've had the Virus for ages. The first three months I hardly used anything else even though the OS (1.08 I think) was pretty shaky. I was keen to buy the review model and indeed if I can find some cash anywhere I still will. OK, to the nitty gritty. Howsabout a little pro/con thing as seen from my point of view? Not the real pros/cons but the ones I thought most important in any choice between these fundamentally different instruments. Virus Pros Multitimbrality Effects Those filters! Relative Mode of knobs Lots of knobs - a good controller for my Pulses! Quality construction 6 outputs Sampled waveforms as well as traditional analog "modelled" ones. Instant accessibility Cons The BIG external PSU Not designed as a rackmount To me it sounds ever-so slightly "thin" until you use twin mode, chorus, layers all those thickening things. The arpeggiator is pretty basic And the Nord Modular? Pros Free to build an incredible amount of analog synthesizers, including a passable Virus. The Editing software is very, very nice even though I'd normally shy away from such things. The Sequencer modules - brilliant for instant "TD" live work. Upgradable and expandable - up to 8 DSP engines, more modules coming along in software. You choose whether patch complexity should be more important than polyphony. You choose the MIDI controllers you wish to allocate to each function and which knobs should control which parameter. Internal Power supply Rack design It sounds big, fat, fantastic! Cons No relative mode You need to be organised in assigning things for control. The knobs don't by default, send MIDI info. You have to double-assign them. You do need the PC link to get the best of it. For live use, you really need an external effects unit - with the Virus you can get by without one. Filters not so good as Virus More expensive than Virus Not so immediate as Virus If you create a Virus architecture, you will end up with 8 not 12 notes of polyphony in an unexpanded Modular. Anyway, there's lots more. If I am the only person who finds the Virus a little less than beefy then that's fine. It isn't a serious concern of mine but it was a factor. To the chap who thought all "sawtooths" were the same - this is simply wrong. Compare a sawtooth produced from a Minimoog, an SH-101, a Korg M1, a Nord, a Virus, a JD-800, a Microwave. The different ways that each synth produces or replays the supposedly same waveform make a big difference before we even look at the filters etc. And do the comparison all the way up and down the keyboard too! OK, I won't go on. If someone told me that the Virus's sawtooth was actually a sample I wouldn't be surprised. I picked the Modular for three main reasons: (i) it will keep me programming for years - my Digisound Modular is starting to show its age now but I just love the openness of modulars in general (ii) the sequencers. For live work this gives me something I have not been able to do for years and it's solid, reliable and lets me improvise in a way I have not been able to do ever before (iii) I already have far too much gear - the Nord added something totally new so I went for that. If your criteria are different (and I'm sure they are) you'll pick something else. I recommend everyone look at the Microwave XT for example. So many choices, better make yours then forget the rest and make music! Sorry to take up so much bandwidth but you *did* ask.... ;-) Paul (who is using the Virus on at least five tracks in progress so let's hope it's still here for a while!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 20:04:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:04:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: "Christopher M. LaFata" Thanks for the feedback. What was it about the Nord that made you finally decide on it. I understand the flexability but what about the sound quality? Does it SOUND more "analogish" than the virus? Also i am worried about screwing around with making patches all the time and having no time to make music! -toph ->* From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) -> ->On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:52:03 -0700, access-list@teklab.com wrote: -> -> ->>At this point it seems to be a toss up between the nord modular and the ->>virus. If anyone has tried out both of these synths could they ->>please try and give me there impressions on the pros/cons of each. ->I went through the same decision - email me privately for more info ->but basically I bought the Nord. It was a close thing and I'd still ->like both but....well, I can rabbit all day about this and here ->probably isn't the place... -> ->Paul ->----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- -> www.softroom.demon.co.uk ->----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- ->********** ********** ->The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and ->is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is ->available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -> ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 20:49:36 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:49:12 -0700 Subject: ACCESS vs Nord Modular * From: "Christopher M. LaFata" Thank you to everyone who responded to my inital query for information. It has been helpful. -toph ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 21:06:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:12:42 -0700 Subject: Virus v. AN1x * From: b la rock Since we have many comparisons here in this very mail list.... Would anyone with experience like to offer any comparisons between the Virus and the Yamaha AN1x... I would be interested to hear ... Thanks ... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 22:32:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ai@shell.wco.com Subject: Virus vs. MKS-70 / MKS-80 (was: Re: Virus v. AN1x) * From: ai Hmmm... how 'bout a few more comparisons I think subscribers would be interested in reading about: Access Virus vs. Roland MKS-70 vs. MKS-80 And by ".vs", I mean overall sound quality differences, as well as subjective factors such as: 'warmth', 'analog-ness', 'punch', 'swirly-ness', 'phat-factor', etc. Thanks. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 23:29:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:21:35 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: Paul Nagle On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:04:07 -0700, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Thanks for the feedback. >What was it about the Nord that made you finally decide on it. I understand the flexability but what about the sound quality? Does it SOUND more "analogish" than the virus? It's one of those hard to quantify things. It sounds "richer". But for me it was the sequencers and what I could do on stage with them that swung it. My Pulses can handle most traditional analog fare.... >Also i am worried about screwing around with making patches all the time and having no time to make music! Yes - that most definitely happens. The Virus is immediate - you just get on with it. The Nord can take over your life.... ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 23:36:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 98 23:41:56 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Virus v. AN1x - I was waiting for this question * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: b la rock > >Since we have many comparisons here in this very mail list.... > >Would anyone with experience like to offer any comparisons between the Virus and the Yamaha AN1x... > >I would be interested to hear ... Hi, I have them both, the Virus & the AN1X. I can say: they are totally different!!! The AN1X has a very strong sound, that is allways present in the playback!! For example: I allso have the good old SH09 for Roland - it has this awesome Square-PW Sound. After buying the AN1X I tried to rebuild this sound and it was no problem - even more: when I switch the layer of this sound to unison and detune the voices to the maximum I have an incredible thunderstorm of this legendary PW sound - wwwwwwhhhhhhooooooooowwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!:---))))) Dont think the Virus can produce such a brutal sound. The AN1X allways is very, very present in the playback. Sometimes i am wondering for what I need thousands of stupid waveforms like the MW 2 Provides. I also have the MW 1, but I dont use the Wavescans very oftem. Well I think the AN1X is quite underhyped because he is ugly and has no felixible Multi Mode. But the the sound reaches from the Sequential Pro One (if anyone remembers) to the Oberheim Xpander (especially the S&H on the Filter). Before I heard the Virus in my music store I thought about buing a second AN1X. BUT: the Virus did it!! The Virus does not have very much good bass sounds (I love the Juno kind soft basses), but extrem good pad, melody & fx sounds. The implemented features are great and the factory sounds are the best I´ve ever heard - thanx to Rob Papen and also - who is K Chistoph?!!!! I think AN1X and Virus ar not comparable...... I also thought about buying the Nord Mordular - the concept is great but I havent heard one sound from it I would desire... Well, I can only say: trust your ears and not any technical shit. The AN1X has as lot of the balls as the Virus. I a question of your taste - or your bank account :-)))) Both are best! Compliments to Access! Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 23:36:44 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 98 23:42:03 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: Gene Schwartz > >>* From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>First off the Virus has one DSP whereas the Nord has four. The Virus has a fixed architecture with modulations wheras the Nord is totally flexible. >> >>this means more intuitive work on the virus and much more possibilites on the Nord Modular. >> >>In Germany the Virus costs about 2700 DM (the price was raised) wheras the Nord costs about 5000 DM, not counting a PC to program it. >> >>They both are great machines, but you really can't compare them. If you have the cash, by all means go for the modular if you think that you can get along with modular synthesis on a computer screen (I like it but it's not for everybody). > >And if you really have the cash, buy a Kyma. Not as easy an interface as the Nord Modular, but much more powerful. The idea is good, but another concept synth like the modular. Im a Pro and I need a synth that works in the playback and no toy with an interesting idea. Kyma also is much, much to expensiv!!! The Virus has payed back its money in 4 weeks. Kyma maybe will never..... Ray -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 23:44:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:44:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus v. AN1x * From: Simon Gatrall On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: b la rock > >Since we have many comparisons here in this very mail list.... > >Would anyone with experience like to offer any comparisons between the Virus and the Yamaha AN1x... My experiences with the Yamaha stuff is limited to playing with one in a store (I've actually spent more time with the CS1X), and I own a Virus, so I'm biased. The Yamaha stuff is OK, and the CS1X is a good deal, but it's just not in the same class in terms of tweakability. There aren't anywhere near as many knobs. The matrix format on the Yamaha does make it a little easier to jump to some of the more obscure parameters, which is something that bugs me sometimes on the Virus, but you can do a lot more with the Virus as far as I can tell. The Yamaha stuff sounds a little more "digital" to my ears - which I don't like. It also doesn't have all of the outputs (6 on the Virus) and it doesn't have the Virus's inputs. Depending on your studio setup, this may or may not be an issue. Personally I love filtering drum loops through my Virus, and I like being able to run each sound through a separate input on my mixer. -s!mon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 23:44:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:44:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus v. AN1x * From: Simon Gatrall On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: b la rock > >Since we have many comparisons here in this very mail list.... > >Would anyone with experience like to offer any comparisons between the Virus and the Yamaha AN1x... My experiences with the Yamaha stuff is limited to playing with one in a store (I've actually spent more time with the CS1X), and I own a Virus, so I'm biased. The Yamaha stuff is OK, and the CS1X is a good deal, but it's just not in the same class in terms of tweakability. There aren't anywhere near as many knobs. The matrix format on the Yamaha does make it a little easier to jump to some of the more obscure parameters, which is something that bugs me sometimes on the Virus, but you can do a lot more with the Virus as far as I can tell. The Yamaha stuff sounds a little more "digital" to my ears - which I don't like. It also doesn't have all of the outputs (6 on the Virus) and it doesn't have the Virus's inputs. Depending on your studio setup, this may or may not be an issue. Personally I love filtering drum loops through my Virus, and I like being able to run each sound through a separate input on my mixer. -s!mon ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Apr 24 23:36:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:44:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net my only thoughts on comparing intruments is to go hear them, and decide which you like the best. simple concept eeh weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 01:22:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:22:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: "Christopher M. LaFata" ->* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net -> ->my only thoughts on comparing intruments is to go hear them, ->and decide which you like the best. simple concept eeh ->weld yeah i agree.....simple concept if you happen to have a physical location in your vicinity where you can check out both pieces of gear. if not it is a little more difficult. i guess you could mail order them try them both out and send them back when you are done But that seems like a pain in the a**. -toph ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 01:21:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:23:46 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Virus v. AN1x - I was waiting for this question * From: "Marcel Engels" * From: Raymund Beyer >BUT: the Virus did it!! The Virus does not have very much good bass sounds (I love the Juno kind soft basses), but extrem good pad, melody >& fx sounds. The implemented features are great and the factory sounds are the best I¥ve ever heard - thanx to Rob Papen and also - who is >K Chistoph?!!!! Well, Christoph Kempe is actually the brain behind the Virus. I'm suprised you didn't know. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 06:35:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 05:04:01 +0100 Organization: SoundHome CC: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: multi mode and aux ins and outs * From: Guenther Albrecht >Also - my impression is that the multi sysex function does not work correctly. I couldn't dump and retrieve a multi patch successfully. my problem is that i can not send sysex (containg dumps) to different multi parts. the patch will be dumped only into the part that is visible on the display, other parts keep the patches they have. of course midi channel is different... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 06:35:37 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 05:04:01 +0100 Organization: SoundHome CC: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: multi mode and aux ins and outs * From: Guenther Albrecht >Also - my impression is that the multi sysex function does not work correctly. I couldn't dump and retrieve a multi patch successfully. my problem is that i can not send sysex (containg dumps) to different multi parts. the patch will be dumped only into the part that is visible on the display, other parts keep the patches they have. of course midi channel is different... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 06:24:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:24:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: Gene Schwartz >>And if you really have the cash, buy a Kyma. Not as easy an interface as the Nord Modular, but much more powerful. > >The idea is good, but another concept synth like the modular. Im a Pro and I need a synth that works in the playback and no toy with an interesting idea. Kyma also is much, much to expensiv!!! The Virus has payed back its money in 4 weeks. Kyma maybe will never..... > Kyma a toy? That's a good one..... You're someone who should definitely stay with the Virus. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 06:35:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 05:33:12 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: SysEx documentation * From: Guenther Albrecht PAGE A A 1 p Modulation Wheel A 2 p Breath Controller THESE ARE NAMES OF the controllers! there is no modulation wheel parameter.... but nice that this was changed in 1.52 from doing lfo3oscpitchamount under the hood.... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 06:35:55 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 05:36:11 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: too much SysEX ??? * From: Guenther Albrecht Any similar experiences? just single mode. 1 or 2 parameters are controller-influenced, the direct/delay effect mix by sysEx. only using 0.5% of full midi. but inside these 3 minutes, suddenly the noise generator gets crazy, producing sound similar to a data cd/cd-r at full at full volume. panic must have another function that is not sent over midi, and switching off the sequencer does nor stop the noise. if i just start the track 30 secs before this happens, it works like at the moment i recorded the midi information. i never had these phenomenon utilizing poly aftertouch. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 24 07:04:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "J Remmen" To: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:00:41 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness i still need help figuring out why i cant change the tempo on my virus, maybe just a point in the right direction would be good enough thanks dbx X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 09:32:01 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:31:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: multi mode and aux ins and outs * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >>Also - my impression is that the multi sysex function does not work correctly. I couldn't dump and retrieve a multi patch successfully. >my problem is that i can not send sysex (containg dumps) to different multi parts. the patch will be dumped only into the part that is visible on the display, other parts keep the patches they have. of course midi channel is different... > > In my experience, the Multi Buffer sysex dump does not work correctly, but the multi bank sysex dump does. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 13:28:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 98 13:34:17 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Virus v. AN1x - I was waiting for this question * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: "Marcel Engels" > >* From: Raymund Beyer > >>BUT: the Virus did it!! The Virus does not have very much good bass sounds >(I love the Juno kind soft basses), but extrem good pad, melody >& fx sounds. The implemented features are great and the factory sounds are the best I¥ve ever heard - thanx to Rob Papen and also - who is >K Chistoph?!!!! > > >Well, Christoph Kempe is actually the brain behind the Virus. I'm suprised you didn't know. Sure I know :-)) . I was not sure if the *K* at the ending of a sound name means that the sound was made by him. Ray > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl > > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 13:28:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 98 13:34:20 +0200 x-sender: pnt03098@mail.real-net.de Subject: Re: Virus v. AN1x * From: Raymund Beyer >* From: Simon Gatrall > >On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >>* From: b la rock >> >>Since we have many comparisons here in this very mail list.... >> >>Would anyone with experience like to offer any comparisons between the Virus and the Yamaha AN1x... > >My experiences with the Yamaha stuff is limited to playing with one in a store (I've actually spent more time with the CS1X), and I own a Virus, so I'm biased. The Yamaha stuff is OK, and the CS1X is a good deal, but it's just not in the same class in terms of tweakability. There aren't anywhere near as many knobs. The matrix format on the Yamaha does make it a little easier to jump to some of the more obscure parameters, which is something that bugs me sometimes on the Virus, but you can do a lot more with the Virus as far as I can tell. The Yamaha stuff sounds a little more "digital" to my ears - which I don't like. It also doesn't have all of the outputs (6 on the Virus) and it doesn't have the Virus's inputs. Depending on your studio setup, this may or may not be an issue. Personally I love filtering drum loops through my Virus, and I like being able to run each sound through a separate input on my mixer. > >-s!mon > Simon, accept the ugly case the AN1X has nothing to do with the CS1X. AN1X is vitual analog and the CS1X is digital. RAy -------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer (Brainstorm Music/ BMP/ Edition Attractor) brainray@real-net.de http://members.aol.com/brainhome Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 Fax +49 (0) 621 6858001 -------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 14:53:13 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 09:00:54 -0400 Subject: various virus tings * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net k patches i believe were done by our own canine host of the virus page!! guys i think the virus can do some great basses!!! you have to program......man!!!! it really does excel at arp type basses, turn that res down, use the saw waves, and the sub osc, there in there!!!!!!! WANTED list ADDITION!!!! would like to see square, triangle, and sine waves in the osc. #2 would like access to preogram a sort of supersaw wave form for extra fat sounds i get some great fat patches out of my virus, so i cant really ack this thin syndrome. to my ears the jup6 is thin though????? weld speaks ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 19:32:57 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 19:35:29 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: various virus tings * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >guys i think the virus can do some great basses!!! you have to program......man!!!! it really does excel at arp type basses, turn that res down, use the saw waves, and the sub osc, there in there!!!!!!! Me thinks the Virus is capable of superb basses. As you said you have to program and that sub-osc really finish it. My uncle who plays guitar was over here today and we did some jamming. Sequence on Virus, mellotron-strings/choirs on sampler and Fender thru distortion and reverb. Instance Tangerine Dream! (now only we have to structure it) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 22:30:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:02:37 +0200 Subject: Re: various virus tings * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 15:00 Uhr +0200 on 25.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >k patches i believe were done by our own canine host of the virus page!! Oh no, oh no. they were not made by me. My sounds never made it into the first factory sets. Rest assured, you will get to hear them soon, one way or another. including my dub and jungle sub basses... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 22:30:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:06:59 +0200 Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 19:44 Uhr +0200 on 24.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: paul@softroom.demon.co.uk (Paul Nagle) > >OK - you're the boss. Brace yourself! Thanks paul, I enjoyed reading about the comparison. Please everybody keep the tone of the list as friendly as it has been and remember that for everyone there is a tool (or a toy, or a tool they call a toy, for that matter) that does the particular job better. There is no synth that is better or worse in general. also why feel personally attacked just because somebody talked about a piece of gear that you own...? it is a fairly strange concept, isn't it? Ob love to Access: I spent the day in the studio and the virus made my day once more. Along with my ASR 10 sampler I must say... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Apr 25 23:12:05 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: genesia@mygale.org (Unverified) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:13:01 +0200 Subject: Global Multi Buffer * From: GeNeSiA Hi Virus Guys ! In my experience too, the Multi Sysex Dump does not work correctly. When i am sending the multi buffer into my sequencer there is only 267 bytes received (like a single) !? In fact "mutli buffer" is only a "part buffer". so you must send all the 16 midi channels multi buffer to have a complete multi setup in your sequencer. i think it s a strange way for a multi setup ! On some others instruments from roland, korg, yamaha... the multi buffer (named: all temp, sysex dump, sysex temp) send all parameters needed in a complete multi usage: - part on/off - Single name (Select Bank & Select Number) - Part Transpose - Part Detune - Part Volume - midi volume - Out Select - etc...etc... ^^ ALL FOR EACH 16 MIDI CHANS IN ONLY 1 SYSEX FILE ^^ i think a "global multi buffer" is a real priority in the wishlist for all virus users, on external midi sequencer ! CaM >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >>Also - my impression is that the multi sysex function does not work correctly. I couldn't dump and retrieve a multi patch successfully. >my problem is that i can not send sysex (containg dumps) to different multi parts. the patch will be dumped only into the part that is visible on the display, other parts keep the patches they have. of course midi channel is different... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 00:38:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:38:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: Gene Schwartz > >Thanks paul, I enjoyed reading about the comparison. Please everybody keep the tone of the list as friendly as it has been and remember that for everyone there is a tool (or a toy, or a tool they call a toy, for that matter) that does the particular job better. > >There is no synth that is better or worse in general. also why feel personally attacked just because somebody talked about a piece of gear that you own...? it is a fairly strange concept, isn't it? > A very strange one, and one that has nothing to do with my post, to which you are responding. I responded to this, about my mention of a Kyma system as being more powerful (and more expensive than the Nord): >>The idea is good, but another concept synth like the modular. Im a Pro and I need a synth that works in the playback and no toy with an interesting idea. Kyma also is much, much to expensiv!!! The Virus has payed back its money in 4 weeks. Kyma maybe will never..... >> What presuppositions does this little paragraph come bundled with? That the musical value of a piece of equipment (and by implication a piece of music) is directly proportional to the amount of money that it brings in, and the gear/compositions that are more experimental, or used/composed for other reasons are toys/not 'pro'. I find this point of view reprehensible. Besides - what makes the Nord Modular, or Kyma, for that matter - both of which do so much more than the Virus (I own a Virus; I am not slamming the Virus), 'concept' synths, while the Virus, a virtual analog synth, is not a concept synth? What makes Kyma 'to expensiv' (sic)? It actually does enough, and it does it spectacularly well enough, do easily warrant the price differential between it and the Virus. Does this person actually have a clear idea of what a Kyma system can do? I doubt it. The combined ignorance and arrogance of this post was impressive. 'Im a Pro' (sic) (sick) But, essentially it's the attitude that money determines the true value of things that really pisses me off. This has nothing to do with being personally attacked. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 00:43:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Global Multi Buffer * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: GeNeSiA > >Hi Virus Guys ! > >In my experience too, the Multi Sysex Dump does not work correctly. > >When i am sending the multi buffer into my sequencer there is only 267 bytes received (like a single) !? > >In fact "mutli buffer" is only a "part buffer". so you must send all the 16 midi channels multi buffer to have a complete multi setup in your sequencer. i think it s a strange way for a multi setup ! > So that's what's going on? I just stopped when I saw that it didn't work. That is indeed a very strange way to implement a multi buffer dump. I think that they should implement a dump like the Microwave II has. They call it an 'arrangement' dump; it dumps all of the multi specific settings, plus just those single patches that are used in that multi. This way, to save your current multi you don't have to save the single patches associated with it. >On some others instruments from roland, korg, yamaha... the multi buffer (named: all temp, sysex dump, sysex temp) send all parameters needed in a complete multi usage: > > - part on/off > - Single name (Select Bank & Select Number) - Part Transpose > - Part Detune > - Part Volume > - midi volume > - Out Select > - etc...etc... > >^^ ALL FOR EACH 16 MIDI CHANS IN ONLY 1 SYSEX FILE ^^ > ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 01:04:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:11:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Too Much Sysex (or something like that i cant quite remember the topic) * From: b la rock Hi .... Yes, to the guy who said that his machine flipped out and made a noise like 'Noise!' pure digital noise that scares the crap out of you .... yes i got this whilst tweaking a patch ... twice and it was from editing the bend up parameter .... I hate that !!!!! bye ..... PEACE snr La roc. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 11:26:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 01:14:27 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Access vs Nord Modular * From: "Howard Scarr" >(Kai Niggemann) >Ob love to Access: I spent the day in the studio and the virus made my day once more. Along with my ASR 10 sampler I must say... Nice combination there, Kai - I can see you're into *immediate* gear. They're *both* my favourites - together with my DX7 II - not so immediate to program, but incredibly dynamic to play. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 12:49:18 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:33:50 +0200 the topic) Subject: Re: Too Much Sysex (or something like that i cant quite remember * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:11 Uhr +0200 on 26.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Yes, to the guy who said that his machine flipped out and made a noise like 'Noise!' pure digital noise that scares the crap out of you .... yes i got this whilst tweaking a patch ... twice and it was from editing the bend up parameter .... wow, wait a minute, now I remember that too. It was the bend, I don't remember if up or down. I had some very very strange noise also. Christoph should certainly have a look at this. unfortunately it is not easily reproduced though. Right now I can't even remember which sound I was editing at the time. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 13:38:06 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 07:45:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Bass? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i have to differ with my good friend mr. nagle here i beleive the virus has incredible warmth and depth in the low end and evry other end for that matter. the instrument has a certain amount of movement and sense of being alive, and the delay rounds off the analog feel thing, giving it a specila electronic type feel. the jarreish 2600 basses i.e. now seq, and big fish , are on the money!!! it along with pulses and the nord modular have changed the way i write electonic music. now it may not do pulse-moog type basses as well, but can do other bass things better than the pulse, nord, prophecy stuff. and for all you dance floor dudes and dudettes, it has one mean soundin tb303 bass sound, taking advantage of saturation and the dual filters. the virus can excel in meaner -dirtier sounds as well (crstal meth, daft punk, etc). havnt heard a sherman in person, but the effects i believe are similiar. weld speaks access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: I.R.W.Sutty@acoustics.salford.ac.uk > >In the review of the virus in the latest Sound on Sound magazine, the access virus is accused of lacking "warmth and depth" at the bass end. Does anyone who has used one have any opinions on this ? (I can't easily get to try one out before buying). Thanks... >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 13:41:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 07:49:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Bass? * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i beleive kyma is a pretty cool concept, just not for some people. dont think kai was flamin you gene, just tryin to keep some peace. we love you maaaaannnn (obsure u.s. beer commercial reference--for are euro listeners) weld p.s. the patch excahnge challenge goes out. we need patches!!!! im sending mine in this week, now everyone else too!!!! weld speaks too much ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 14:25:32 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:33:16 -0400 Subject: vocoder * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net anyone try usin the virus input as a sort of vocoder try usin the bandpass filter with res and control off the mod wheel. put some saturation on, and your in business, not a mam but a neat discovery all the less. weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 14:42:15 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:49:59 -0400 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net any word on this parameter changing bug canine???? weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: "Uwe F. Bauer" > >-----Original Message----- >From: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Montag, 13. April 1998 18:55 >Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys > >>* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net >> >>p.s. hey canine, the dreaded ghost parameter change bug is back on mine!! when a sound is being sequenced just at a random point the filter cutoff will lowe or higher, out of the blue?????????? > >This bug is the result of tiny changes in the potentiometer resistance of the ViRUS knobs that happen due to vibrations of the synth (while playing sequences/patches at medium to high volume levels for example) and because of thermal noise. These changes seem to happen randomly - sometimes you get rid of them for days and suddenly they tend to appear every few minutes. The result is that the relating sound parameter jumps to the value the "flickering" knob delivers, which leads to a -- sometimes barely notable, other times very drastic -- timbre change. > >I really _HATE_ this bug (it sometimes hits other parameters than filter cutoff, too, for example the envelope attacks), because you have to turn off the knobs in the menu to get a sequence recorded properly. > >To fix that problem, the guard time (in German the so-called "TOT-ZEIT") of the knobs has to be increased. This means that these uncontrolled changes of potentiometer values aren't payed any attention by the ViRUS operating system, as long as the flickering value doesn't stabilize for a certain amount of time, which indicates that the parameter was changed intentionally by turning the knob. > >Cheers, > >Uwe F. Bauer > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 15:09:03 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:16:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Virus: LFO shape = Sine hidden feature * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net heres one hidden feature that canine found a while back sine wave in both lfo's bad part you have to access through midi cc weld K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > >Hi guys, > >have you got your manuals for the virus yet? I just got mine and looked up what I had wanted to know for a long time: how to set the LFO to sine. In case you haven't got it, here it is: > >controller range parameter value range remarks >68 0-127 LFO1 Shape 0-5 0: sine >1: tri >2: saw >3: sqare >4: S&H >5: S&G > >80 LFO2 Shape 0-5 0: sine >1: tri >2: saw >3: sqare >4: S&H >5: S&G > >Hope this helps. Keep on reaching for that sinewave! > >think different! > >Canine > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 17:21:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:16:12 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Bass? * From: Paul Nagle On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 07:45:49 -0400, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >jarreish 2600 basses i.e. now seq, and big fish , are on the money!!! nice that you mention these two as they were *my* attempt to make a big bass....or was "now seq" one of yours Rob, I can't remember? ;-) >floor dudes and dudettes, it has one mean soundin tb303 bass sound, taking advantage of saturation and the dual filters. the virus can excel in meaner -dirtier sounds as well (crstal meth, daft punk, etc). havnt heard a sherman in person, but the effects i believe are similiar. weld speaks And wisely. I hope my "bass" feelings aren't getting seen out of proportion - for example I used the Virus for about half a dozen sequencer parts for a recent concert, including the bass. Through a big PA it sounded great and I know of no other synth that would have allowed me to work so easily at this kind of thing.... So, all is cool. I do like this Virus thingummy you know! ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 17:21:25 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:16:14 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Subject: Re: Virus: LFO shape = Sine hidden feature * From: Paul Nagle On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:16:45 -0400, access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >heres one hidden feature that canine found a while back > >sine wave in both lfo's >bad part you have to access through midi cc It's in the manual of course. Does everyone here have the manual BTW? I have it in Word format but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to distribute it... Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.demon.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 17:45:26 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 11:53:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Virus: LFO shape = Sine hidden feature * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i beleive kai is goning to put it on the web site very soon in pdf format weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: Paul Nagle > >On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:16:45 -0400, access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >>* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net >> >>heres one hidden feature that canine found a while back >> >>sine wave in both lfo's >>bad part you have to access through midi cc > >It's in the manual of course. Does everyone here have the manual BTW? I have it in Word format but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to distribute it... > >Paul >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >www.softroom.demon.co.uk >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 23:28:58 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:39:38 +0200 Subject: Re: Virus: LFO shape = Sine hidden feature * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 17:16 Uhr +0200 on 26.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >It's in the manual of course. Does everyone here have the manual BTW? I have it in Word format but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to distribute it... No, don't, I will be getting a PDF really soon, I will post that on the website. That way it will contain all the grafix and a neat layout and everything. That's better than circulating a word file I think. Unless somebody can't wait... think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Apr 26 23:31:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 23:31:15 +0200 Subject: just make music hey ya guys, i can t hear it anymore: what syn s better the virus or the nord or shall i buy an an1x or is the new quasimidi polymorph the best or ...uh... what about the new Q from waldorf? i can t stand it anymore. this is the VIRUS mailinglist and it s made for the VIRUS!!!! for me one of the best syns ever and you re asking for: what s better!!! STOP IT! PLEASE STOP IT and make MUSIC! you can make music with lots of machines. you do not need a modular. it s made for the richer people {"I m a pro." - HAHAHAHAH}. so USE the equip you GOT and let everyone feel what you want them to feel and what you realy like to feel! that s music. so stop this fucking discussion. love & smile, marcX-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 01:14:46 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: bgould@pop.sirius.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:22:33 -0700 Subject: Re: galaxy module * From: BGOULD Hello Users. I've been trying to download this module from Canine's site for a week now, and I get nothing but the message "file contains no data". Is there a functioning galaxy module, and if there is, what am I doing wrong? Thanks, bgould@sirius.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 02:20:51 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 17:20:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: just make music * From: Gene Schwartz >hey ya guys, > >i can t hear it anymore: what syn s better the virus or the nord or shall i buy an an1x or is the new quasimidi polymorph the best or ...uh... what about the new Q from waldorf? >i can t stand it anymore. this is the VIRUS mailinglist and it s made for the VIRUS!!!! >for me one of the best syns ever and you re asking for: what s better!!! STOP IT! PLEASE STOP IT and make MUSIC! >you can make music with lots of machines. you do not need a modular. it s made for the richer people {"I m a pro." - HAHAHAHAH}. so USE the equip you GOT and let everyone feel what you want them to feel and what you realy like to feel! > >that s music. > >so stop this fucking discussion. > >love & smile, >marc Let people what talk about what they want to talk about. And smile when they want to smile. And make music when they want to - no one does that 24 hours a day. People who belong to a particular mailing list tend to share at least certain ideas and concepts. So it can be interesting to hear about their reaction to things that might be, in a strict sense, off topic. It helps keeps a mailing list lively. The last two sentences of your post are somewhat self contradictory, don't you think? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 05:13:59 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 23:13:39 EDT Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: Elhardt >>p.s. hey canine, the dreaded ghost parameter change bug is back on mine!! when a sound is being sequenced just at a random point the filter cutoff will lowe or higher, out of the blue?????????? This random potentiometer change is something I have encountered also, but was wondering why nobody else was reporting it. Somewhat of a fix would be to set the "Knobs-Off" in the control menu. That will stop it, but it also means that if you want to tweak a knob, you have to enable it again. With all the old programmable analog synthesizers I have, none of them experience anything like this. It is always frustrating when 15 years of technological advancements, things like this become a problem. -Elhardt ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 06:13:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:12:11 -0700 Subject: No more Holy Wars on this list. (was Re: just make music) * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Guys, In the interest of sanity, lets cut down on the synth holy wars on this list for a while, okay? No more "Nord vs. Virus" conversations, unless it's *really* beneficial to Virus users. This list exists only to benefit Virus users and potential users. So keep it that way, alright? j. -- Jay Vaughan Access Virus List Administrator TekLab jv@teklab.com ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 08:20:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:20:05 +0100 Organization: SoundHome Subject: Re: Too Much Sysex (or something like that i cant quite remember the topic) * From: Guenther Albrecht >>Christoph should certainly have a look at this. unfortunately it is not easily reproduced though. I can export the track into SMF - you will have to channelize notes, controllers & sysEx yourself. the track that brought the problems consists of short parts with rests & sysEx dumps between them. if i only play that part it works, if i start from earlier parts that one will go crash (most of the time). so if i know whom to send i'd just export a file. makes me think, though - my last live concert featured system 1.12 (can't figure all out in 3 days!), but a pity to give up arp hold... regards .g.a. -> DOING STRANGE THINGS IN THE NAME OF ART... <-       Visit me at www.pan.com/saliter ! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 08:30:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:26:35 +0200 the topic) Subject: Re: Too Much Sysex (or something like that i cant quite remember * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:20 Uhr +0200 on 27.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Guenther Albrecht > >>>Christoph should certainly have a look at this. unfortunately it is not easily reproduced though. > >I can export the track into SMF - you will have to channelize notes, controllers & sysEx yourself. I can do it, can you send it to me, please? think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 17:26:12 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:24:05 -0400 Subject: Re[2]: essentials for the next op sys * From: JASON_MUNDO@ccmail.rustei.com (JASON MUNDO) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys Author: access-list@teklab.com at Internet Date: 4/26/98 11:13 PM * From: Elhardt >>p.s. hey canine, the dreaded ghost parameter change bug is back on mine!! when a sound is being sequenced just at a random point the filter cutoff will lowe or higher, out of the blue?????????? >This random potentiometer change is something I have encountered also, but was wondering why nobody else was reporting it. Occassionally this will happen to me as well. I think this should be a high priority fix. I usually turn my virus off and then on again to fix it. But if this happens to me during a live jungle PA then I'm screwed.... high priority fix for the wish list. Mundo ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 18:30:42 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:38:14 -0700 Subject: Re: essentials for the next op sys * From: b la rock access-list@teklab.com wrote: >* From: Elhardt > >>>p.s. hey canine, the dreaded ghost parameter change bug is back on mine!! when a sound is being sequenced just at a random point the filter cutoff will lowe or higher, out of the blue?????????? > >This random potentiometer change is something I have encountered also, but was wondering why nobody else was reporting it. Somewhat of a fix would be to set the "Knobs-Off" in the control menu. That will stop it, but it also means that if you want to tweak a knob, you have to enable it again. With all the old programmable analog synthesizers I have, none of them experience anything like this. It is always frustrating when 15 years of technological advancements, things like this become a problem. > >-Elhardt >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! well if you set the knob mode to "relative" then all knob movements are taken as relative movements and not literal .... so you dont get the jumps. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 19:11:40 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:07:09 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Bass? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD720F.AD5D7120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Viroids >(Weld) >p.s. the patch excahnge challenge goes out. we need patches!!!! im sending mine in this week, now everyone else too!!!! OK Weld, you're on. Here are 10 of mine (separate MIDIs, zipped and attached): 1. Autowah - dynamic clavinet/bass sound - MW opens filter more 2. Frogland - frogs and birds near a stream in a forest (OK, OK... :-)) 3. Kalimbamat - play low fourths - uses LF impulses to resonant filter! 4. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 19:30:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:30:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Erratum * From: "Howard Scarr" The line "kill ambience if you must" in my previous mail applies to "Kalimbamat", not "Maracamat" ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Apr 27 23:51:30 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:52:39 +0100 Subject: ghost poti moves * From: Schorsch > >>This random potentiometer change is something I have encountered >also, but was wondering why nobody else was reporting it. > > >Occassionally this will happen to me as well. >I think this should be a high priority fix. >I usually turn my virus off and then on again to fix it. >But if this happens to me during a live jungle PA then I'm screwed.... >high priority fix for the wish list. Excuse me, but in the V1.52 docs they say that the poti bug should be fixed now. Since I updated to 1.52 there's never been that bug again :) ->Schorsch ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 01:26:49 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:13:23 +0200 Subject: Access responds to the many questions * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" 1. 'Too much sysex' I think I found the bug yesterday. It happens when the Virus sends its own SysEx-parameters by midi and reveives them again. Will be fixed in the next version. Easy workaround: Set MIDI Panel to internal, or MIDI HiPage to PolyPrs. 2. Multi Dump A Multi Dump contains all multi parameters that are accessible in Multi mode. This contains the multi delay and also parameters that affect the performance of the 16 Single parts. At the moment, the Multi Dump does not include the sound parameters of the 16 Single parts, so they must be dumped separately. Indeed this is an unpractical way, so we will include a feature to dump a complete arrangement setting; that means the multi buffer and the 16 single buffer. At least the single dumps will be dumped back to the original source part number. 3. Doubts The Virus IS rackmountable by optional available rack-ears. The sawtooth and pulse oscillator IS analog modelled, it's not a sample. The 64 spectral waves are digital waveforms, but the wave generator is driven by the same analog modelled oscillator core. 4. Features Some Virus features that might not be described clear enough: - Try the PUNCH INTENSITY for a more defined and punchy attack. - The right half of the OSC VOL knob is defined as a Saturation Gain. This allows to increase the gain into the saturation smoothly up do 12 dB without increasing the volume. The gain amount for the Digital Curve (SATURATION) is even 24 dB, this is the maximum distortion! (I also tried 36 dB for that, but the sound didn't distort any more the last dB's) - Try the Shaper (in the SATURATION unit) in connection with OSC VOLUME and the filters (serial mode) - The Multi-Single mode is made for direct access to the 16 multi parts, when you work with a sequenzer. Press MULTI and SINGLE together to enter this mode. The Multi-Single mode is a modified Multi mode, the settings of the actual Multi patch are still active, while the Multi patch itself is mostly invisible in this mode! The factory Multi-patch M0 Sequenzer is an inital patch for sequencer use. - To connect the arpeggiator of a Single sound, that was programmed on an V1.12 OS or older, to the external Midi Clock, you have to switch the ARPEGGIATOR CLOCK parameter to the desired clock resolution. With this setting, the arpeggiator is connected to the internal Master Clock. The Master Clock locks itself to an incoming Midi Clock automatically. Do it the same way with the delay and the LFO's. The ARPEGGIATOR CLOCK parameter cannot be set back to OFF, the arpeggiator timing stays linked to the master clock. Keep the fun and respect Christoph Kemper ACCESS think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 01:26:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:22:48 +0200 Subject: Re: ghost poti moves * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 0:52 Uhr +0200 on 28.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >but in the V1.52 docs they say that the poti bug should be fixed now. > >Since I updated to 1.52 there's never been that bug again :) In any case, if you set the knobs to "Snap" or "Relative" mode, you won't experince any sudden jumps and no live surprises. Thus an easy remedy for the time being. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 01:26:50 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:26:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Immediateness of gear * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:14 Uhr +0200 on 26.04.1998 access-list@teklab.com wrote: >Nice combination there, Kai - I can see you're into *immediate* gear. They're *both* my favourites - together with my DX7 II - not so immediate to program, but incredibly dynamic to play. Oh yes, definitely an "immediate" person. I need everything right there, I found what I had been looking for for so long in the virus... Now I am looking for an fx unit that will give me the "look and feel" these two have...;) think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 01:56:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:03:27 -0700 Subject: Q: PWM * From: b la rock Dear People..... Would anyone like to explain how you program PWM via LFO on the Virus ...? Thanks .... Barney. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 02:55:35 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:03:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Q: PWM * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net lets see: select pulse width waveform in osc 1 or 2 or both osc's , put the wave sel/pw knob to pw in the osc section, go to lfo and select saw wave (or any wave for that matter)then go to pw 1+2 in the lfo 1 section, , and hit the amount button next to it, with the value or + - controls selsct an amount, wolla--pulse width modulation you are modulating the pulse waveform and modulating its width with the lfo!!! if we ever get a mod matrix you could do the same with and envelope and other sources!!! have fun weld access-list@teklab.com wrote: > >* From: b la rock > >Dear People..... > >Would anyone like to explain how you program PWM via LFO on the Virus ...? > >Thanks .... > >Barney. > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 03:00:38 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:08:17 -0400 Subject: Re:lfo res * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net another cool virus feature is the ability to modulate filter res form lfo 1!!! this is usually a feature reserved for modular synths. try it ..youll like it!! weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 05:18:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:17:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re:lfo res * From: Gene Schwartz >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >another cool virus feature is the ability to modulate filter res form lfo 1!!! this is usually a feature reserved for modular synths. >try it ..youll like it!! >weld >********** ********** > Actually, a lot of current synths allow you to control filter resonance from a variety of sources. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 12:10:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de X-Home: http://www.waf80.de/ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:09:29 +0200 Subject: rumour mill * From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" hmmmmmmmmm I heard from usually well informed sources that 1.53 is coming soon, most likely before the end of the week. It won't include any new functions but fix problems that have been mentioned on this list. think different! Canine -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 14:16:54 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:14:10 +0100 Organization: Institut f. Immunologie Subject: patches * From: alexander renner Hi, I have problems to download the new patches on the access-list from Howard Scarr. It would be very nice if they are posted on the download page, or maybe someone explain me how i can do it from the access-list directly. thanks sas ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 18:06:00 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:05:02 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: patches * From: "Howard Scarr" Hi Viroids >I have problems to download the new patches on the access-list from Howard Scarr. Sorry - I sent an attached file to everybody instead of just Canine (out of tiredness and ignorance - please don't do the same!). Try his download page within the next few days. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 23:10:34 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:35:38 +0100 Subject: Re: ghost poti moves * From: Schorsch >>Since I updated to 1.52 there's never been that bug again :) >In any case, if you set the knobs to "Snap" or "Relative" mode, you won't experince any sudden jumps and no live surprises. Thus an easy remedy for the time being. However, before I was using V1.5x, I wasn't happy with the Virus: There were just toooo many strange bugs. When I experienced V1.5 I fell on my knees and shouted: "Thanks God !" ->Schorsch ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Apr 28 21:14:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: HScarr@csi.com Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:14:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Another bug * From: "Howard Scarr" (1.52) Often get some parts in multis transposed up an octave. Switching off and on again reverts to the correct octave. Anyone else had this problem? ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 01:01:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:01:54 +0200 Subject: Re: Another bug * From: Marc hey man, this is an {virtuell} analog synthesizer and it s built like an original one. in analog syns the oscillators are oscillating the whole time. and they do not sound everytime same! you know? try to enjoy and use it. love & light, marc access-list@teklab.com schrieb: >* From: "Howard Scarr" > >(1.52) Often get some parts in multis transposed up an octave. Switching off and on again reverts to the correct octave. Anyone else had this problem? > >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 15:03:41 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: rodneyh@magna.com.au Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:04:19 +1000 Subject: How's the Virus? * From: Rod Hi Virus people, I'm considering getting a Virus to add to my arsenal (I already have a fair bit of kit incl. a JP8000). Can I please pick the brains of owners a bit? Any advice appreciated. For starters, what's the best things about it and the most frustrating things about it? Thanks Heaps, Rodsta. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 21:38:31 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: barney@lineone.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:43:45 -0700 Subject: Unison + more ... * From: b la rock Hello .... hmm some thoughts.... 1)How should one try to simulate the analogue term of Unison.... is this a chorus or delay effect on the voice or is it like a brand new set of voices being triggered .....if so this should be done through multi set up yeah ? If you layer a patch (the same sound) in a multi can you detune one ? 2) How do you rename a patch ? i cant find how ....! 3) How do you copy a patch ? ..... or do you just store the patch in a new location ? 4) When you have the multi and single led's lit and you adjust the parameters in single ... are the adjusted singles all stored in temporary memory ? ....i dont really understand that ..... what if you are adjusting 16 singles ... the virus has temporary memory for 16 singles ....?? ..... i saved a multi and the virus said "be aware ..... there are adjusted singles" but i didnt know how to save them ......like usually when you adjust a single and then move onto another single you lose the single settings ...... ..well the virus decided for me in the end and went into that wierdo mode with the noise .....so i had to switch it off !! ...... oh yeah a fix for that is just to rip out the midi out connection ... anyways .... have fun ... bye ... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 22:19:23 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:17:46 EDT Subject: Re: ghost poti moves * From: AcrystDM In a message dated 4/27/98 2:51:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, access- list@teklab.com writes: >Excuse me, > >but in the V1.52 docs they say that the poti bug should be fixed now. > >Since I updated to 1.52 there's never been that bug again :) > i updated to 1.52 and I am still having the problem. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 23:49:28 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:51:02 -0400 (EDT) cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: ghost poti moves * From: Jack Just thought I would mention that the Virus is mentioned on KMFDM's web page(www.kmfdm.net). it is mentioned on the tech talk page and there are some pictures on the kmfdm in the studio page(picture 3 i think). Save organic foods! go here - http://saveorganic.org/ ------- icq - #5680665 - this is my icq #, not that you'd care... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 23:49:29 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:51:02 -0400 (EDT) cc: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: Re: ghost poti moves * From: Jack Just thought I would mention that the Virus is mentioned on KMFDM's web page(www.kmfdm.net). it is mentioned on the tech talk page and there are some pictures on the kmfdm in the studio page(picture 3 i think). Save organic foods! go here - http://saveorganic.org/ ------- icq - #5680665 - this is my icq #, not that you'd care... ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 23:15:53 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:11:58 -0700 Subject: Sooo close to purchasing a Virus... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan Hi All, I'm almost at the point where a Virus purchase is feasible -- where's the absolutely best place to buy one in the US these days? Or, anyone wanna sell me theirs for a good price? :) Hope to soon be Virus'ing away soon. j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven artistry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Apr 29 23:44:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:46:07 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Unison + more ... * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: b la rock >1)How should one try to simulate the analogue term of Unison.... > >is this a chorus or delay effect on the voice or is it like a brand new set of voices being triggered .....if so this should be done through multi set up yeah ? No it's not chorus or delay. With Unisono my Polysix plays all six notes at once (monophonic) and you get a super-fat sound! And they are detuned slightly, I think because you could hear it if it was not detuned. I also think (have to check with manual) the filter has gone from 24dB to 48dB. In this case it has got a fatter, more powerful sound then any sound on the Virus. BUT I guess you can do the same thing with the Virus when you use multi. Just take 4, 5 or 6 the same sounds, detune them slightly and give them the same midi-channel. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl upd. 27-4-'98 ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 30 00:49:47 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:56:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Sooo close to purchasing a Virus... * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net i would try howard at eurosynth if he has em hell give you the best price the problem is hell promise hell get it for you and sometimes its prolongs itself if you want immediacy try rogue or guitar center weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 30 00:56:19 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:02:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Unison + more ... * From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net uni - means 2 most synths will inturn layer two voices in unison mode further, some will have a unison detune mode (mw2 jup 6) which detunes the 2 voices in opisite directions, expanding the sound. weld ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 30 02:01:27 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 04:03:00 +0400 X-Priority: 3 Subject: PLEASE STOP !!!!!!!! * From: "micha" PLEASE STOP YOUR MESSAGE for ME !!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!!! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 30 03:01:11 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:01:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Subject: Re: Sooo close to purchasing a Virus... * From: Gene Schwartz Try Music Central. John Mika's a good guy, and he'll match any price. >* From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan > >Hi All, > >I'm almost at the point where a Virus purchase is feasible -- where's the absolutely best place to buy one in the US these days? Or, anyone wanna sell me theirs for a good price? > >:) > >Hope to soon be Virus'ing away soon. > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | electron-driven artistry >jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com >| la, calif. >********** ********** >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 30 09:45:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:48:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: Unison + more ... * From: "Marcel Engels" >* From: weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >uni - means 2 hmmm, I always thought uni meant more. duo - means 2. On the Polysix and the Junos all six notes play at once - not just 2. And the filter changes too. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 30 19:30:17 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:28:37 -0700 Subject: Re: Unison + more ... * From: tek1 -- Jay Vaughan >>uni - means 2 > >hmmm, I always thought uni meant more. >duo - means 2. >On the Polysix and the Junos all six notes play at once - not just 2. And the filter changes too. > Actually, strictly speaking, uni means 'one'. It also means 'all'. As in 'universe', and 'unicycle' (one wheel). j. -- Jay Vaughan | electron-driven artistry jay@teklab.com | http://lab1.teklab.com | la, calif. ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Apr 30 20:25:48 1998 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer From: access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:28:36 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Subject: bug? * From: "Marcel Engels" A lot of times when I'm in Multi mode (using computer etc for sequencing) and I'm pressing the Single button then everything locks up. The Multi led stays on and the Single- led is blinking. When turning off and on the power again, I get, as normally, V 1,52 and then nothing (not normally). I cannot choose sounds or go to Multi. What I must do then is press the panic button (LFO1,2 shape together) and then everything works fine again........until I go to Multi again and switch back to Single. I have this 'problem' almost 8 out of 10 times. I don't recall having this with V1.51, although I must say I only have the Virus for about 1.5 months. btw: I was suprised there isn't a foot-switch input. Would have been neat, when playing with the arpeggiator - freeze the sequence with the footpedal and then transpose the pattern with your keyboard. Ah, can't have everything!! (not that I use it much btw) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ********** ********** The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!