X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 00:24:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:22:18 -0500 From: Brian Davis X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Brian Davis "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >At 7:54 AM +0100 on 25.02.1999 Brian Davis wrote: >>It's always easy to call someone a misinformed asshole and tell them not to take it >>personally, but actually helping someone with their problems, no matter how stupid >>or infantile they sound is a bit harder. Try it sometime... > >You are right. I apologize. > >It was just a very negative drift in your email that made me angry. Friends? > Definately! I know my message sounded negative, but I have been saving for some time to get a Virus, a little less than half of the first 15-20 messages I got from the list were complaints of problems or replys to said senders, and frankly, it scared the heck outta me. I guess I should have waited a few more days to get a more accurate portrayal of the types/numbers of problems before I wrote, but I've never been a very patient person. Anyway, all is cleared up now, and I'm getting my Virus next week along with a Doepfer Regelwerk. (Gotta love tax returns, huh?) Hopefully I'll be able to remain one of the silent masses who are too busy writing music to write in to a list. :) Thanks for the help and sorry about the confusion. Brian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 01:18:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 01:16:09 +0100 From: "ptolemy, child of november" Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: newbie wants answers?! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "ptolemy, child of november" Thanks Kai for the info. It's not that i'm completely helpless in this world, as me and a friend have just made our first demo disc, containing some 40 minutes of music. (mostly a mixture of breakbeat, textsteppin') Gonna buy my Virus (i already say its MINE..wuahahahhaa) this week. Thanks again to everyone. -=john=- dj fake from the "moving forward" posse. http://culthero.com/djfake/ "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:27 PM +0100 on 27.02.1999 ptolemy, child of november wrote: >>So what i'd really like (and _more_ people i think) is a good intro into this scene. >>If any of you know where to start, please reply > >Hi John, > >If you want to get into midi, be prepared to enter a world, stranger that you have ever imagined. It's like taking a trip back to the early eighties, when MIDI was made a standard... > >go to my Virus site at http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus and check out the FAQ there. at the bottom of the FAQ there are a few links that set you up with the basics of analog and other synthesizers. > >Then you could try the following links: > >www.harmonycentral.com >www.hyperreal.com >www.sonicstate.com >www.synthfool.com >www.dancetech.com > >all of these are music related sites, and I am sure you will find a MIDI tutorial or a lead to one on at least one of these sites. try the last two first, I think these are most likely to offer something like that. > >Getting the best out of midi involves reading many manuals, introductions and especially twiddling your synths to see it all in action... > >good luck. You will make it! > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus price Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore i believe if you look enough u can find them for 1150.00$. after u find one e mail me privately because i am also looking for a virus.. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 22:07:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 06:57:08 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Got it! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:11 PM +0100 on 01.03.1999 Jasper de Jong wrote: >Oh, I wrote a messy this morning on the noise i hear when i press a key: I changed to v2.1 and it's not that bad anymore. (or am i imagining things?). Since updating involves resetting the synth, this may be the easy solution: just follow the standard procedure described in the FAQ for resetting the Virus. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 10:20:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:22:10 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! As i've just returned from a skiing holiday i've only just really tried my virus. I notice there's quite a 'lot' of noise at the outputs, when a note is being played. It sounds like some sort of digital noise. Is this normal? Oh, i did check the noise volume in the patch! :) thanks jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 10:56:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:52:56 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Krupp Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp At 10:22 01.03.99 +0100, you wrote: >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >As i've just returned from a skiing holiday i've only just really tried my virus. >I notice there's quite a 'lot' of noise at the outputs, when a note is being played. It sounds like some sort of digital noise. Is this normal? >Oh, i did check the noise volume in the patch! :) I have a similar problem with my left output, but not very loud. I think it has to do with bad current or bad grounding. I live in Norway, and the electricity system here are really bad I heard. I'll try to buy an electricity-buffer/filter or something to get scilence, but if my Virus is still noizy I'll have to get someone to have a look at it... So maybe check out current faults? >_______________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 12:20:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:15:09 +0100 (NFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access list Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Jasper de Jong wrote: >I notice there's quite a 'lot' of noise at the outputs, when a note is being played. It sounds like some sort of digital noise. Is this normal? Well, if the boost for the external IN is pulled up, this DOES occure...! Hagen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 14:57:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Virus as allrounder Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:55:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Kai wrote : >>A friend of mine uses all of his synths in single mode all the time. Weird, isn't it? Nico wrote : >oh...he`s not alone,man,i can tell !!! diletantism !! :=) Dunno whether it's wierd or even a sign of diletantism - people work differently. I hardly ever use Multimode because I find it more time-consuming (immediacy is my favorite credo). But the Virus is so useful that I do find myself recording its audio again and again to free it up for more. I can do without any other "analog" synth now (but not without my trusty old ASRs or Yamahas!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 15:30:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:27:09 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Primal Scream Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Primal Scream >As i've just returned from a skiing holiday i've only just really tried my virus. >I notice there's quite a 'lot' of noise at the outputs, when a note is being played. It sounds like some sort of digital noise. Is this normal? >Oh, i did check the noise volume in the patch! :) This has happened to me too, but to solve it all i did was turn the boost down on the ext ins. That was only half the problem.. It also seemed that the internal fx were generating the noise too, so i just reset the virus... :(. ah well.. i hasn't happened since.. Eric ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 17:09:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:11:27 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Got it! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >I bought one! >First went to several banks to collect the money... I went deep into the red zone for one too. >The problem is: I was looking for the JP-8080, everybody said i should buy the thing. Until I made an apointment with a colleague and (new) friend. He has a JP-8000 and a Virus (among other nice equipment) I have listened the whole evening, but it wasn't necessary. The first tones... So i bought it. >Yess. So happy, you guys can't imagine! (yess you can...) Me too. I just LOVE the sound of this machine. It's a wonderful addition to the rest of my setup, with its bright sparkling sounds. Oh, I wrote a messy this morning on the noise i hear when i press a key: I changed to v2.1 and it's not that bad anymore. (or am i imagining things?). bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 20:26:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:18:01 +0100 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martijn Baan Primal Scream schreef: >* From Primal Scream > >>As i've just returned from a skiing holiday i've only just really tried my virus. >>I notice there's quite a 'lot' of noise at the outputs, when a note is being played. It sounds like some sort of digital noise. Is this normal? >>Oh, i did check the noise volume in the patch! :) > >This has happened to me too, but to solve it all i did was turn the boost down on the ext ins. That was only half the problem.. It also seemed that the internal fx were generating the noise too, so i just reset the virus... :(. ah well.. i hasn't happened since.. > >Eric > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! How can you reset your Virus? I really wanna know. Turn it off en hold store or something? (Heard thats the way if you want a new OS. and you have downloaded it. Hope to hear soon. Bean ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 20:26:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: noise (check the saturationparameter>digital shaper<) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 99 20:24:04 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Krupp wrote : >It sounds like some sort of digital noise. Is this normal? >Oh, i did check the noise volume in the patch! :) hi, maybe u got the digital shaper turned on ? (saturation,last possibility) regards,nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 20:26:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: noise Date: Mon, 1 Mar 99 20:24:06 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Krupp wrote : >I have a similar problem with my left output, but not very loud. I think it has to do with bad current or bad grounding. I live in Norway, and the electricity system here are really bad I heard. I'll try to buy an electricity-buffer/filter or something to get scilence, but if my Virus is still noizy I'll have to get someone to have a look at it... > >So maybe check out current faults? is inputboost on ? regards,nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 1 23:06:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 22:45:16 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: noise X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Martijn Baan schrieb: >How can you reset your Virus? I really wanna know. Turn it off en hold store or something? (Heard thats the way if you want a new OS. and you have downloaded it. Hope to hear soon. > >Bean > Hi Bean ! when you switch the virus on, hold down the shape buttons of lfo1 and lfo2. then the virus is reset. p.s. is anyone outhere visiting the musikmesse in Frankfurt on sunday? maybe we can meet at tsi? Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 12:34:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 23:43:37 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:20 AM +0100 on 02.03.1999 Mara Salminen wrote: >>>My thoughts also. I have noticed that in general, most Virus buyers seem to >>be rather new to synths and are therefore starting at close to ground level. > First of all this surprises me. I doubt that this is the case. I think the Virus is certainly easy to comprehend, once you get started into synths. Still there is a good mixture of people on this list, I believe. Also: if a lot of newbies use the Virus, then you are certainly not in a position to question their presence on this list... iof they are more than we are, then meybe we should unsubscribe...;) Just kidding of course...;) I think the problem here does not come from being newbie or pro user, the question is just what and who you turn to when you don't get anywhere all by yourself. I am in the process of compiling a new FAQ that starts out with all the basics of troubleshooting. But I don't have the time to work on it every day and there are quite a few things that need to be done. Also: please someone point me to a well structured FAQ in HTML, please... > >-Good for you, enjoy! > >And I too am getting tired of the "This thing is so >>sick and rowks and sounds so, so phat and dope." This kind of annoying, trashy street slang turns me off and seems to describe the mindset of too >many >>users on the list. Well, let's compromise. This only shows that the Virus sells well which in turn protects our investment: as long as the Virus still sells, Access will be motivated to include new features in OS upgrades instead of building an entirely new machine...;) If you doN't like where the discussion on this list is going, you should lead the way to new terrain. Lists can only thrive when everybody involves is motivated to contribute to them... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 00:52:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:36:56 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus price (stop asking) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Herb Ivore) wrote: <> Does anybody on this list read their e-mail. It seems pointless to even post stuff, because every two days the same question keeps coming up again and again. So for the third time, someone stated that Music Central has them for $1150. Web address below: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ Your search is over. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 01:39:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:25:31 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus price (stop asking) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Herb Ivore) wrote: >i believe if you look enough u can find them for 1150.00$. I wrote: Does anybody on this list read their e-mail. It seems pointless to even post stuff, because every two days the same question keeps coming up again and again. So for the third time, someone stated that Music Central has them for $1150. Web address is: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ Your search is over. weldelectronica wrote: >chil, pill everyone, if ya dont like the subject press the big delete key I write: If I hit the delete key, somebody doesn't get any info. It is just very time consuming to search my drive for past mail, then write a message and post it, only to have it ignored and I have to do the same thing two days later. This seems to happen too often. Also I don't know why something seems to filter out text between double <'s. When I quote someone else but their text disappears when it gets posted, the message as a whole doesn't make sense. <> >testing< >>testing<< ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 01:54:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:50:25 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: FAQ (was Re: Virus Price) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall The problem with requests like this is that there should be a central place to find this information. If someone actually reads the end of every message that's posted to this list, they would see the URL for Canine's web page. The only thing that says FAQ on the main page is a limited FAQ for the mailing list. The FAQ that most people really need to read is the one under the "documentation" link. This answers a lot of the questions that get asked over and over and over again, but there are some topics that should be covered in more detail: 1. How does the Virus compare to X synth? (more specifics could be added here) 2. Where is the best place to buy a Virus? (add links to stores) 3. How do I download the OS update, I can't get it to work? (does anyone actually read the web pages that Access has?) When new people sign up for this list they should be sent a message with pointers to the relavent links on Canine's web pages and the web pages at TSI/Access. There should also be a searchable archive for this list. A new person shouldn't be allowed to subscribe until they send back mail saying that they have read all of the FAQs/documentation. Then we could have a real discussion. Not to be a whiner, but I have to say that this list has a very low signal to noise ratio. I've been on it since almost the beginning, and except for it being a good way to find out about the latest OS and whatever new bugs to watch out for, I haven't got very much out of this list. Occasionally I have posted difficult questions that have been ignored, or suggestions that no one has responded to. I'd like to hear about how people are using their Virus in an interesting unexpected way. Instead ever other message is asking "I'm having trouble downloading the OS, I'm using Cakewalk..." or "wow I just got a new Virus, it's so kewl dudez!!" Tell me something I don't know and I will appreciate your wisdom, or ask a question that isn't in the documentation anywhere and we'll try and answer it. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 02:36:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "dbx" To: Subject: Re: virus price (stop asking) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:34:27 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "dbx" i just wanted to thank everyone for the responce about the virus price, i think i can go into a local shop and tell him what price i can get it for, and have them match just wanted to say thanks, and i dont need anymore prices unless its lower then 1150 :) dbx -----Original Message----- From: Elhardt@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 4:59 PM Subject: Re: virus price (stop asking) >* From Elhardt@aol.com > >(Herb Ivore) wrote: >>i believe if you look enough u can find them for 1150.00$. > >I wrote: >Does anybody on this list read their e-mail. It seems pointless to even post >stuff, because every two days the same question keeps coming up again and again. So for the third time, someone stated that Music Central has them for >$1150. Web address is: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ Your search is over. > >weldelectronica wrote: >>chil, pill everyone, if ya dont like the subject press the big delete key > >I write: >If I hit the delete key, somebody doesn't get any info. It is just very time >consuming to search my drive for past mail, then write a message and post it, >only to have it ignored and I have to do the same thing two days later. This >seems to happen too often. Also I don't know why something seems to filter out text between double <'s. When I quote someone else but their text disappears when it gets posted, the message as a whole doesn't make sense. > ><> > >>testing< >>>testing<< > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 03:09:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: virus price (stop asking) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:59:59 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >chil, pill everyone >if ya dont like the subject press the big delete key W Enough of mindless repetition... and excessive quoting. Are you all on valium? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 07:01:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:57:06 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FAQ (was Re: Virus Price) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Simon Gatrall) wrote: >I've been on it since almost the beginning, and except for it being a good way to find out about the latest OS and whatever new bugs to watch out for, I haven't got very much out of this list. Occasionally I have posted difficult questions that have been ignored, or suggestions that no one has responded to. I'd like to hear about how people are using their Virus in an interesting unexpected way. Instead ever other message is asking "I'm having trouble downloading the OS, I'm using Cakewalk..." or "wow I just got a new Virus, it's so kewl dudez!!"< My thoughts also. I have noticed that in general, most Virus buyers seem to be rather new to synths and are therefore starting at close to ground level. However on the Nord Modular list, there is some higher level of conversation, probably because a more complex and expensive synth like that one attracts more sophisticated users. And I too am getting tired of the "This thing is so sick and rowks and sounds so, so phat and dope." This kind of annoying, trashy street slang turns me off and seems to describe the mindset of too many users on the list. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 10:25:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:20:53 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen At 00:57 2.3.1999 EST, you wrote: >* From Elhardt@aol.com > >(Simon Gatrall) wrote: >>I've been on it since almost the beginning, and except for it being a good >way to find out about the latest OS and whatever new bugs to watch out for, I haven't got very much out of this list. Occasionally I have posted difficult questions that have been ignored, or suggestions that no one has responded to. -Why don't you try once more? Give us all one example. >I'd like to hear about how people are using their Virus in an interesting unexpected way. -Me too! Virus with a radio was a good start! Instead ever other message is asking "I'm having trouble >downloading the OS, I'm using Cakewalk..." or "wow I just got a new Virus, it's so kewl dudez!!"< (Elhardt@aol.com wrote:) >>My thoughts also. I have noticed that in general, most Virus buyers seem to >be rather new to synths and are therefore starting at close to ground level. -And what's wrong with that? What level did you start from? >However on the Nord Modular list, there is some higher level of conversation, probably because a more complex and expensive synth like that one attracts more sophisticated users. -Good for you, enjoy! And I too am getting tired of the "This thing is so >sick and rowks and sounds so, so phat and dope." This kind of annoying, trashy street slang turns me off and seems to describe the mindset of too many >users on the list. -I agree with you about this, but then again, is it so bad? I delete this kind of messages immediately and that's it. The way I see it, everybody has the right to use this list. We cannot be on the same level of conversation because we are very different users. I really would like to have A LOT MORE conversation here (especially about MUSIC, what kind of music do you play with your synths?), but that can not happen if we just keep telling each other how stupid everybody else is. -I have been using synths for 20 years now and I still feel like a beginner. To me that is probably the best thing, that's why I still like doing it. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 08:32:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Todd Wollons" To: Subject: Cubase studio module settings for virus? Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 01:27:17 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Todd Wollons" Howdy fellow owners of virii, I'm trying to get the virus studio module to work in cubase. Can anyone give me some advice as to how I should configure the module setup? When I try to retrieve a patch, it says it can't communicate. I see the lights on my midi patchbay blink, so I know something is happening. But it's not quite workin'. I'd appreciate any assistance. -filament ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 10:38:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FAQ (was Re: Virus Price) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 01:35:30 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Terribly sorry if some of us aren't as old and wise you! If you love discussing the complicated curciut boards of a synth, then for gods sake do it! But count on me or some of the other beginners on the list to join you oh so sophisticated discussion. What we have here is eliticism, which is one thing I for one can't stand. At all. So please spare me! (PHAT! heheh... DOPE! hehehehHAHA!!) :-) -FutureVirus >My thoughts also. I have noticed that in general, most Virus buyers seem to >be rather new to synths and are therefore starting at close to ground level. >However on the Nord Modular list, there is some higher level of conversation, >probably because a more complex and expensive synth like that one attracts >more sophisticated users. And I too am getting tired of the "This thing is so >sick and rowks and sounds so, so phat and dope." This kind of annoying, >trashy street slang turns me off and seems to describe the mindset of too many >users on the list. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 10:21:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:49:04 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:noise WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! There are at least two kinds of other noise sources: - the SHAPER/DISTORTION is on, eventually in combination with Freq.Modulation. - the input is on with a high boost, probably in dynamic mode. Dimitri. Jasper de Jong schreef: >* From Jasper de Jong > Hi! > >As i've just returned from a skiing holiday i've only just really tried >my virus. >I notice there's quite a 'lot' of noise at the outputs, when a note is >being played. It sounds like some sort of digital noise. Is this normal? >Oh, i did check the noise volume in the patch! :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 12:32:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: FAQ (was Re: Virus Price) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:23:08 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >From "Peter Steens" >discussing the complicated curciut boards He wants to talk technical/ musical usage & musical results. These are more interesting than any circuit boards. >What we have here is eliticism, which is one thing I for one can't stand. At all. The group is not an 'elite', it's just people who talk about interesting Virus musical & technical topics. You need a Virus to participate for real. I have no problems with phat & dope... but tell us what's particularly phat, and why it's that way. Tell us what sounds are good, for what style of music, what kind of settings are used, and how to mix them with what else. For example - I record the Virus 908 or 909 kicks along with other snares. Compressing this track makes the kicks bigger & more rounded, really brings out that low wobble in a 908... Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 12:49:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 12:46:24 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Krupp Subject: Re: noise vs. love of noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp HI! The noise I am refering to is present even with my master volume turned to none-at-all. But I'm quite shure it is the Norwegian current system that causes this! I'we heard that we have the badest el-system in Europe, or second badest only beaten by Romania... I should get some sort of magick box for my music equippment to fix it! I should not complain though, cause I primarrily use mu VIRUS to make: NOISE!!! I make music with much noise in it on Oberheim matrix-6, Virus, Metasynth, a Les Paul and I sample diverse. Do not ask what my music sounds like. I'm studying art and animation, and I am very interested in shape and movement in music and sounds. SO: I LOVE MY VIRUS! It's a great synth! I only miss a few pleasant details like for instance modulation matrix, but I'm allmost shure this wil be included in future OS since there are lots of questions about a modulation matrix here on the list! REVEL! Krupp... :¤] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 15:11:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Bye for now! Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 06:07:05 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi all... Just spoke to the people at various music-shops in London. It seems that, to buy something via 12-month financing, you have to have lived in the UK for at least three years and be on the list of voters... I'm neither... So... no Virus or RM1x for at least... well... months! Oh dear God there's enough negative energy in this for several weeks of depression... Now I'll just have to save up. The oldfashioned way. Stop smoking. Stop going out. Preferably stop eating. And to the EVP-people: I'm terribly sorry. I joined in a moment of sheer naivity. I can not come to the meeting. I mean, there's no point if I can't bring a Virus. Besides: the money I spend will now be stripped to the bare essentials. Alright, enough whining. I'll still be on the list, but in "lurker"-mode. See ya all in... several months :-( -InSomeFarFutureThereWillBeAVirus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 15:53:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:48:27 +0100 Subject: Re: Cubase studio module settings for virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 01:27:17 -0800, Todd Wollons wrote: >I'm trying to get the virus studio module to work in cubase. Can anyone give me some advice as to how I should configure the module setup? When I try to retrieve a patch, it says it can't communicate. I see the lights on my midi patchbay blink, so I know something is happening. But it's not quite workin'. As you might have figured out the studio module setup allows you to select a distinctive Midi-in and Midi-out port plus some optional commands to switch your patchbay. When you try to retrieve a patch you will see a progress window showing the number of received bytes. I have heard of problems concerning abort of transmission after some bytes being transferred (268 bytes, I think). The modele encounters a timeout and you will receive an error message stating "can't communicate". Is this the case? Does the module receive some bytes and aborts? Another possible reason is an incorrect VIRUS settig: You need to have Sysex receive enabled and the device ID set to 0 (which could be 1 in the menu, I don't remember. Pick the lowest possible value, anyway). Are you sure the data passes your patchbay correctly and reaches the midi port assigned to the driver? CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 16:40:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:34:24 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: choir-strings Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com is it possible to make strings with the Virus that are 'choir' alike ? i seem to remember somebody once told me you need a modular system to create that kind of strings, is this true or can this also be done with the Virus ? greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 17:57:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: choir-strings Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:58:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com > >is it possible to make strings with the Virus that are 'choir' alike ? i seem to remember somebody once told me you need a modular system to create that kind of strings, is this true or can this also be done with the Virus ? Well, I would be very interested in a Solina Strings kind of sound... I just don't seem to get it sound like those ensembles...probably have to use a 'dirty' chorus or something. (maybe an expansion of the fx-department?) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 00:35:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:32:11 -0800 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: newbies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz All newbies to the Virus and synthesis, I have absolutely no problem in you asking basic questions on this list, after all this is what it is for. I think perhaps people forget that they were in exactly the same position as yourselves once. Having said that this did make me laugh: < I'd like to hear about how Bilbo Bagginz -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 21:52:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:44:28 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Hi everybody! If anyone had the impression that it was me who critizised the level of conversation on this list, I want to tell you that I did NOT. Thank you! --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 22:02:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:05:15 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: Re: noise Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong >There are at least two kinds of other noise sources: - the SHAPER/DISTORTION is on, eventually in combination with Freq.Modulation. >- the input is on with a high boost, probably in dynamic mode. As the problem disappeared after i updated the OS I think these settings must have been resetted while updating. everything is ok! Thank you all for your help! Oh, you know the virus is great on these punching dnb bass lines, don't you? :) Bye -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 2 21:52:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Todd Wollons" To: Subject: Re: Cubase studio module settings for virus? Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:48:41 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Todd Wollons" Hi Philipp, I think I am doing everything as you have specified. I still get a message which says "MIDI Devide Not Responding. Please Check Connections and Settings." I'm using an Opcode Studio 128X midi patchbay. This is beginning to make my blood boil.. :) Canine, Do you have any suggestions? You mentioned you would get back to me with more info last week. Let me know if you have any suggestions as to how I can get this studio module working. Thanks, Todd ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- >>I'm trying to get the virus studio module to work in cubase. Can anyone give me some advice as to how I should configure the module setup? When I try to retrieve a patch, it says it can't communicate. I see the lights on >>my midi patchbay blink, so I know something is happening. But it's not quite workin'. > >As you might have figured out the studio module setup allows you to select a distinctive Midi-in and Midi-out >port plus some optional commands to switch your patchbay. When you try to retrieve a patch you will see a >progress window showing the number of received bytes. I have heard of problems concerning abort of transmission >after some bytes being transferred (268 bytes, I think). The modele encounters a timeout and you will receive an >error message stating "can't communicate". Is this the case? Does the module receive some bytes and aborts? > >Another possible reason is an incorrect VIRUS settig: You need to have Sysex receive enabled and the device ID >set to 0 (which could be 1 in the menu, I don't remember. Pick the lowest possible value, anyway). > >Are you sure the data passes your patchbay correctly and reaches the midi port assigned to the driver? > >CU >flp > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 11:47:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:37:36 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: how I make sounds (was RE: choir-strings (solina-like)) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:37 AM +0100 on 03.03.1999 Peter Steens wrote: >What sort of sounds have you got in your Virus? Could you try to describe them, or tell how you got to these sounds? I'd be interested in hearing about other sounds than "acid"-sorta sounds, so please... when I first got my Virus, the OS was at 0.98 and there were no factory presets. my Virus had 256 incarnations of the sound: "Welcome!"...;) so I started to go through the parameters and tried out how things interact and now have about 180 sounds of my own. By now of course I have loaded the factories in there and listened to them but for the most part I just like to use my own sounds better... I just experimented and usually started out with an idea about a sound I had heard or something that I wanted to have in a particular song. Like a subbass or a thick pad. Then there were some great programming examples for subtractive synthesis in several magazines. They were never about a particular synth, but were just showing the settings in general. Another piece of inspiration is TV. I watch lots of music television (MTV and VIVA II) and sometimes I notice a weird sound in one of those songs they are playing. Or in a song I am listening to from CD. I drop everything then, and go to my virus and try to recreate the sound from memory... If you have friends with analog synths, take your virus to their house. Fire up the analog, until you get to a nice characteristic sound. Then try to recreate it on the Virus. You will learn lots of things about the limitations and special characteristics of both machines this way. And a lot about subtractive synthesis along the way...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 00:40:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 99 00:38:07 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Marcel Engels wrote : >I just don't seem to get it sound like those ensembles...probably have to use a 'dirty' chorus or something. hi, i am sounddesigner since 15 years now,i got a solina,but since i could create nearly every sound u need,i have to give up by creating a solina-sound with synths ... :=) here`s why: the solina`s oscillator creates a fully polyphonic silly normal sawtooth. but the reason why it sounds chorus-like is a button called "modulator". this modulator-function feeds the oscillator with itself a few times,but always later than the first triggered, wich means that it is not in phase. only this type of "chorus-technic" does create this beautiful,warm,analog-identificating stringsound. you can listen to old "vangelis" tracks (such as bladerunner,antarctica,or older..),he is often using the "roland vp 330"or jean-michele jarre on oxygene or equinoxe,where he is using "arp solinastrings,crumar strings, or the roland rs 202 strings. but he uses them not directly, he feeds the "electroharmonics small-stone-phaser" or similar with the stringmchine. but wait,there is help ! :=) if u have an akaisampler or one wich can read akai format,there is a cd-rom called "stringmachines" by "best service". its a collection of the most popular stringmachines. i got it ,and its really great,i can tell.... 8>)... for those of u who dont have an akaicompatible sampler there is also the same on audio-cd. regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 00:40:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Cubase studio module settings for virus? Date: Wed, 3 Mar 99 00:38:09 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Todd Wollons wrote : >I think I am doing everything as you have specified. I still get a message which says "MIDI Devide Not Responding. Please Check Connections and Settings." I'm using an Opcode Studio 128X midi patchbay. This is beginning to make my blood boil.. :) hi , i work with a mac and sound diver, i had the same. it did not work until i switched from "sysex" to "polypressure",wich i found out is used to comunicate better in the virus than sysex.... in the control-menue step to the index >midi control< there is an option called >hi page< and >low page< in>hi page< set the parameter to >polypressure< NOT to >sysex<. this worked with mine..... :=) regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 05:30:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:15:11 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Interesting things to do with the Virus. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan My contribution to the list of interesting things to do with the Virus, feel free to contribute: - I bought a cheap Yamaha SU10 phrase sampler, and filled it with samples (as much as I could in it's puny RAM, anyway). The output of this is fed into the inputs of my Virus, and set to trigger on the same MIDI channel as the Virus. This is an excellent combination for weird and strange sounds, using a mixture of the Virus' filters (and/or Vocoder) and the Pitch/Filter on the SU10 being controlled by the ribbon controller. If you're looking for a cheap way of adding extremely interesting wave-based effects to your setup, you can't go wrong with the SU10 and the Virus combo - sample a few strange arpeggiator loops into the SU10, or some vocal phrases, and use it to trigger the vocoder or filters in the Virus. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 05:17:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:15:45 -0800 (PST) From: david tinapple Subject: unsubscribe tinapple@yahoo.com To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From david tinapple unsubscribe tinapple@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 06:37:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:33:48 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Mara Salminen) wrote: >-And what's wrong with that? What level did you start from?< I always amazes me how a person can't say anything without being misinterpreted or having to hear the same old responses. I never said this board shouldn't be used by beginners. I was simply STATING AN OBSEVATION. A simple reason explaining why there isn't such a high level of ideas discussed. (Peter Steens) wrote: >Terribly sorry if some of us aren't as old and wise you! If you love discussing the complicated curciut boards of a synth, then for gods sake do it! But count on me or some of the other beginners on the list to join you oh so sophisticated discussion. What we have here is eliticism, which is one thing I for one can't stand. At all. So please spare me!< Over sensitive and touchy people also aren't in short supply either (see above). This list is not a list for discussing curcuit boards as you mentioned. I don't have a problem with beginners in synthesis. I do have problems though with the total inundation of people involved in garbage genres of music and trashy ebonics sounding language. When I read mail from this list, I shouldn't keep getting visual images of inner city, gangster looking, crack smoking juveniles on the other end. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 06:54:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:39:30 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Over sensitive and touchy people also aren't in short supply either (see above). This list is not a list for discussing curcuit boards as you mentioned. I don't have a problem with beginners in synthesis. I do have problems though with the total inundation of people involved in garbage genres of music and trashy ebonics sounding language. When I read mail from this list, I shouldn't keep getting visual images of inner city, gangster looking, crack smoking juveniles on the other end. Wasn't going to get in on this thread, but this list is about the Access Virus. If trashy, inner city ganster looking crack smoking juveniles in purple tights are using Access Virus'es and are on the list talking about the Access Virus, then that's a perfectly acceptable use of the list. As the owner of the resources being used to run this list, I'm the only one that gets to say what it's about. So there. Pfftt. Pigeon-holing and attempting to maintain some degree of "synthesis caste-system" certainly isn't what this list is for. Invalidating other forms of music or other cultural choices isn't what it's for either. What it *is* for is for discussions about the Access Virus synthesizer, all the way from the banal to the highly esoteric. If a person, complaining about the content of the list in whatever way, would just put *half* the energy into creating a simple thread of interest instead of uttering forth "you guys owe it to me" list-quality complaints, then the quality of the list in terms of on-topicness and interest to the general whole can only increase. So, with that in mind, you stellar elite master of the synthesis universe guys should now quit complaining about it and do something about it. Overwhelm us with your position-in-the-synthesis-caste derived brilliance, utter forth some amazing diatribe on the vagaries of the Virus' abilities, bring us all into a Higher Order of Synthesis Awareness, if you must. Teach us crack-whore knob-twiddling newbies something, its not hard. Just quit complaining about the quality of the list, as it is certainly not owed to you and unless you prove it by providing stellar content for all list members to learn from, your presence on the list does not instantly beget some form of official respect from the general whole. Got it? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 09:55:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:57:04 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Nico Herz >but wait,there is help ! :=) >if u have an akaisampler or one wich can read akai format,there is a cd-rom called "stringmachines" >by "best service". >its a collection of the most popular stringmachines. i got it ,and its really great,i can tell.... 8>)... for those of u who dont have an akaicompatible sampler there is also the same on audio-cd. I'll check it out immediately! (I have a Yamaha A3000 - I believe it's capable of reading Akai, but audio CD is also good). Still, it would be fantastic if such a sound can be created with the Virus...it's these sounds I'm interested in :-) I probably have a very different soundset in my Virus as most others anyway...i'm not really into 303 like sounds. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 10:40:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 01:37:03 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi there! What sort of sounds have you got in your Virus? Could you try to describe them, or tell how you got to these sounds? I'd be interested in hearing about other sounds than "acid"-sorta sounds, so please... And oh yeah, I'm the pathetic type who hasn't got a Virus... but you just wait and see! I'll get one some day! And preferrably soon! -FutureVirus! >I'll check it out immediately! (I have a Yamaha A3000 - I believe it's capable of >reading Akai, but audio CD is also good). Still, it would be fantastic if such a sound can be created with the Virus...it's these >sounds I'm interested in :-) I probably have a very different soundset in my >Virus as >most others anyway...i'm not really into 303 like sounds. > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 10:05:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Martin Schlenker" Organization: IXXAT / STZP To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:06:39 GMT+2 Comments: Sender has elected to use 8-bit data in this message. If problems arise, refer to postmaster at sender's site. Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Schlenker" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:56:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:29:08 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Newbie with a Question Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:48 PM +0100 on 03.03.1999 Tony wrote: >I'm planning to use the Virus with my ASR-X for live performance, but I can't get the Virus arpeggiator clock to sync to MIDI clock coming from the X. Hm weird. Waht exactly does it do? does it drift? is it slower or faster? Which OS version do you have? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:56:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:35:34 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: how I make sounds, part deux Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:38 PM +0100 on 03.03.1999 Marcel Engels wrote: >For pads...the Virus is very good capable of making great pads like Oberheim/Memory- >Moog etc did. Well, and here is another thing. I know hardly anything about all those synths. I don't have any clue what the oberheim sound is like. I have never heard a memorymoog. I have touched an Arp 2600 once but never heard it. I hardly ever try to go for a name, but go for a sound. At least that's something I'd like to think..;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:56:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:39:35 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: ondes martenot Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Can anyone tell me what an Ondes Martenot is? I heard one in a song ("Fireball" by Gerry Anderson, apparently some Science Fiction series from UK) and it sounded so funny and tiny. Does anyone have a picture of one? I made a sound on the Virus in about a minute (I suppose it's only a sinewave with lots of portamento and delay) but I would love to have more information. thanks for any help... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:56:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:51:34 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus kb Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:30 PM +0100 on 03.03.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >I reckon they'll be offering >an expander version soon. I doubt it. They already did about 1 1/2 years ago. They were just a bit late on the keyboard version...;) Where did you get your KEYS by the way? I haven#t received mine yet... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 13:01:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Epicantic@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 06:57:08 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Epicantic@aol.com I've always loved the sound of the Solina, too. Especially during the opening of every episode of CHARLIE'S ANGELS :) Finding a used Solina is quite difficult as I've tried. Even though is sounds as if there is a very heavy PHASER effect over the sting sound itself, I've tried replicating it on my old Roland equipment and even the newer stuff with the phaser on, but it doesn't have the same "shimmering" quality. :) Hell, I even have the Vintage Expansion Board of Rolands in my JD-990 which comes with a Phaser, and the sample of the Solina is stable, but with the effect overlayed on the 990 itself, it is similar, but not exactly. :( In a message dated 3/3/99 2:58:51 AM Central Standard Time, fsp@wxs.nl writes: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From Nico Herz > >>but wait,there is help ! :=) >>if u have an akaisampler or one wich can read akai format,there is a cd-rom called "stringmachines" >>by "best service". >>its a collection of the most popular stringmachines. i got it ,and its really great,i can tell.... 8>)... for those of u who dont have an akaicompatible sampler there is also the same on audio-cd. > >I'll check it out immediately! (I have a Yamaha A3000 - I believe it's capable of >reading Akai, but audio CD is also good). Still, it would be fantastic if such a sound can be created with the Virus...it's these >sounds I'm interested in :-) I probably have a very different soundset in my >Virus as >most others anyway...i'm not really into 303 like sounds. > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 13:17:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pokeweed@pipeline.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:15:18 -0500 Subject: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pokeweed@pipeline.com >mentioned. I don't have a problem with beginners in synthesis. I do have problems though with the total inundation of people involved in garbage genres of music and trashy ebonics sounding language. What is "Garbage Genre"? I once created an entire drum kit by sampling an empty bucket of driveway tar in various ways. Perhapse this falls into the "Garbage Genre"? DeDMaN ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 14:46:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 14:21:10 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: New Ways X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Hi list, has anyone of you evertried to use the VIRUS as an additive synth? Here's how to do it: Select the START Patch and set OSC1 to produce a Sine Wave. Store the Patch as e.g. "Sine Patch". Program a Multi with up to 12 Parts where only this Sine Patch is used for each part .Set the Part Transpose to match the Pitch of Harmonic Overtones and adjust the levels to taste. The tricky part is to set the amplifier envelopes for each Harmonic (= for each multipart) to get a motion in harmonics. Ok, it's only monophonic and extremely uncomfortable but you can create interesting bass sounds because you have detailed control over the first Overtones which I found to be much more important for the fatness and growl of a bass sound than the higher ones. I analysed a sample of an acoustic bass with soundforge and tried to model this spectrum with the virus. The waveform itself sounded almost identical. I only was to lazy to program envelopes for each part to get a less static sound. Comments? Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 14:37:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:38:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Peter Steens" > >What sort of sounds have you got in your Virus? Could you try to describe them, or tell how you got to these sounds? I'd be interested in hearing about other sounds than "acid"-sorta sounds, so please... Well, for one I don't like the preset Moog bass sounds in the Virus... They sound too thin and too short. It's not exactly what I had in mind for a Moog bass...:-) I'm used to hearing 70s Tangerine Dream and Node and those are the basses I'm looking for (and made). But don't read this wrong though! You CAN get fantastic basses with the Virus. Be sure to use a bit of distortion, because the VCA's of the old moogs were also distorted...it's those little things (things that shouldn't really be in the synths in the first place) that make synths have an own character. For pads...the Virus is very good capable of making great pads like Oberheim/Memory- Moog etc did. I just wish they expanded the fx department a bit more with reverb and some phasers...THAT would finish the sound imo. Ah well, I suppose I just have to buy an extra fx-processor. (it's really the only thing that is missing imo). >And oh yeah, I'm the pathetic type who hasn't got a Virus... but you just wait and see! I'll get one some day! And preferrably soon! Well, Peter...of course you're going to get one!!! You will definitely not regret it. Can you imagine having the money for it, but production was still low and I had to wait a YEAR for it??? With the money ready for it, but no-one had it??? That sucked...:-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 15:14:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:17:00 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: sounddiver adaptions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! I tried to download the sounddiver virus adaptions to try them out on a friends pc, but i keep on getting this winzip error. I downloaded about 5 times, but no improvement. Any thoughts? Maybe someone can send them by email? thanks jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 15:14:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:17:02 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: how I make sounds (was RE: choir-strings (solina-like)) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong hi all >when I first got my Virus, the OS was at 0.98 and there were no factory presets. my Virus had 256 incarnations of the sound: "Welcome!"...;) >so I started to go through the parameters and tried out how things interact and now have about 180 sounds of my own. By now of course I have loaded the factories in there and listened to them but for the most part I just like to use my own sounds better... I use similair techniques on my synths. Sometimes I just dump the memory and then create an empty patch and copy the synth full with that. Just forcing yourself to create new things and getting to know your synth. The 'danger' is that your synth gets full of the sounds you want 'on forehand' and you're less likely to put a preset arpeggiated sound over a fat D&b track, which i did last night..:) bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 16:35:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:36:45 +0100 Subject: Re: sounddiver adaptions From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Jasper de Jong > >Hi! > >I tried to download the sounddiver virus adaptions to try them out on a friends pc, but i keep on getting this winzip error. I downloaded about 5 times, but no improvement. Any thoughts? Maybe someone can send them by email? The official adaption-releases are downloadable from the Emagic homepage (www.emagic.de). AFAIK they work. Good luck Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 17:11:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:07:26 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Oh dear! I can imagine that sucked hard! So you were there right from the beginning, it seems? The position I'm in is just the usual consumer-position. Loads of stuff I want, available to anyone with the right amounts of cash. Anyway, I can't wait to learn about synthesis the right way -> to own one! That way I can be the perfect bore at parties, rambling on about LFOs, oscillators, different waveforms and all the other strange elements that makes up a synth. Or maybe I really should find another subject... :-) -ThereWillBeAVirusInTheFuture! >Well, Peter...of course you're going to get one!!! You will definitely not regret it. >Can you imagine having the money for it, but production was still low and I >had >to wait a YEAR for it??? With the money ready for it, but no-one had it??? >That sucked...:-) > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 18:09:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:11:02 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Nico Herz > >do it....i think the new OS of the a3000 reads akai,but be aware that u might have to edit a little bit ( mapping etc.) 8>) I ordered it today! :-) The audio set. I'm just not too sure when I hook up a SCSI CDROM it reads Akai... Audio is okay, I'll have to find my own loops then. >its not....its that technic of this "modulator" of the stringmachines wich creates this typical sound, >and the way it is done u cannot imitate it. Hmmm that modulator is a a little bit different as an ensemble fx he? I also got a Polysix with an ensemble knob on it and yes, it reminds me a bit of the solina sound...although not quite. Doesn't the MicroWave II have an ensemble fx? Would be great if those were in the virus...(no I won't mention it again about the fx processor :-)) Thanks Nico and others...for pulling out my Visa card and have less money on my account :-))) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl hahaha isn't it strange that a 'state of the art' sampler is filled with mellotrons and old string machines? I even did sample some of the Virus bass-drums to make a nice drum set in the A3000. :-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 17:19:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 99 17:17:23 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Marcel Engels wrote : >I'll check it out immediately! (I have a Yamaha A3000 - I believe it's capable of >reading Akai, but audio CD is also good). do it....i think the new OS of the a3000 reads akai,but be aware that u might have to edit a little bit ( mapping etc.) 8>) >Still, it would be fantastic if such a sound can be created with the Virus... its not....its that technic of this "modulator" of the stringmachines wich creates this typical sound, and the way it is done u cannot imitate it. there is only one synthie i know wich can rarely imitate this sound ,but it is still different.its the kawai k 5000. it has an "ensemble"-effect,wich is doing near to the "modulator". anyway,if someone knows a synthesizer with midi wich can do this type of sound ,let me know ,iwill buy it immediatly. :=) >it's these >sounds I'm interested in :-) I probably have a very different soundset in my Virus as >most others anyway...i'm not really into 303 like sounds. i love the 303 ,but u can also not imitate the sound on the virus.there is only the yamaha an1x wich can do it perfectly. but it was hard work for me to create it (because of the accentfunktion and the unique sound of its oscillators). but u are right ,there is much more on the synthesizerworld than 303-sounds. people should experiance all the stuff u can create with synths beside 303.sounds. ;=) regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 17:19:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 99 17:17:25 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Epicantic@aol.com wrote : >I've always loved the sound of the Solina, too. Especially during the opening >of every episode of CHARLIE'S ANGELS :) > >Finding a used Solina is quite difficult as I've tried. i got one,i got one !!! 8=))) >Even though is >sounds >as if there is a very heavy PHASER effect over the sting sound itself, I've tried replicating it on my old Roland equipment and even the newer stuff with the phaser on, but it doesn't have the same "shimmering" quality. :) the phaser is not in the solina,but in the time the solina was new there also analog phasers were very hype and often the stringmachines feeded these phasers (like electroharmonics smallstone). >Hell, I >even have the Vintage Expansion Board of Rolands in my JD-990 which comes with >a Phaser, and the sample of the Solina is stable, but with the effect overlayed on the 990 itself, it is similar, but not exactly. :( i know,i got it too.its the phaser of the 990,wich is not imitating an analog phaser.also the solinasamples in the 990 are sounding HORRIBLE. i really was stuck,when i first tried it. but as i said ,i got the original,and also an akai-rom called "stringmachines". regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 19:33:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Virus kb Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:30:35 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" ...just in case somebody on this list hasn't heard yet! So now we know what Access has been keeping the lid on! The 5-octave keyboard version is 16-note polyphonic, 24-bit DAC, ring-mod, unison mode and.... includes a 27->90 modulation matrix (yupp). Price according to the German mag "Keys" is 3,690 DM. I reckon they'll be offering an expander version soon. Is a hardware update for the standard Virus possible, chaps? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 19:49:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "nightgoat" To: Subject: Re: Virus kb Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:44:26 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "nightgoat" Where did you get this information from? Is there a picture yet? A web page I could read more about it????? -----Original Message----- From: Howard Scarr To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 12:36 PM Subject: Virus kb >* From "Howard Scarr" > >...just in case somebody on this list hasn't heard yet! > >So now we know what Access has been keeping the lid on! The 5-octave keyboard version is 16-note polyphonic, 24-bit DAC, ring-mod, unison mode and.... includes a 27->90 modulation matrix (yupp). Price according to the German mag "Keys" is 3,690 DM. I reckon they'll be offering >an expander version soon. > >Is a hardware update for the standard Virus possible, chaps? > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 19:49:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:48:16 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Newbie with a Question To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony Hi I'm new to this list -- and the Virus. Just got mine this weekend. I was going to get the uWave XT, but I guess I just "caught the bug". Here's my question, I'm planning to use the Virus with my ASR-X for live performance, but I can't get the Virus arpeggiator clock to sync to MIDI clock coming from the X. I have a gig tonight, so I'm just going to manually adjust the clock rate, but obviously you can't get that techno "locked-sync" effect that way. I checked the manual and the list FAQ so if I've missed something obvious I do apologize. Looking forward to learning more about this cool little box. == Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 20:02:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: New Ways Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:00:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >has anyone of you evertried to use the VIRUS as an additive synth? Here's how to do it: >Select the START Patch and set OSC1 to produce a Sine Wave. Store the Patch as e.g. "Sine Patch". >Program a Multi with up to 12 Parts where only this Sine Patch is used for each part .Set the Part Transpose to match the Pitch of Harmonic Overtones and adjust the levels to taste. ... >Comments? Interesting idea, if time-intensive. With 12 singles you could of course get 24 sine waves (but with some of them sharing envelopes). BTW: Would a hardware update to kb-spec be worth it? Or are owners of too many keyboards going to have to wait for the (obviously planned) expander version? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 20:57:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: New Ways Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:50:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Cool but a lot of work. With Ringmodulation (volume open) and the oscillators volume closed you will get Yamaha CS-80 sounds. Also the FM together with sync would give new possibilities with this volume ringmodulator setting. So lets hope that they are programing it ! Can not be that hard if sync and fm is already there. Noise colour and as modulation source would be great as wel. Come on Access. Can't wait to make Korg MS-20 sounds (ringmodulation) on the Virus. Rob -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Guido Kirsch Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: woensdag 3 maart 1999 15:00 Onderwerp: New Ways |* From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) | |Hi list, | |has anyone of you evertried to use the VIRUS as an additive synth? | |Here's how to do it: |Select the START Patch and set OSC1 to produce a Sine Wave. |Store the Patch as e.g. "Sine Patch". |Program a Multi with up to 12 Parts where only this Sine Patch |is used for each part .Set the Part Transpose to match the Pitch of |Harmonic Overtones and adjust the levels to taste. |The tricky part is to set the amplifier envelopes for each |Harmonic (= for each multipart) to get a motion in harmonics. |Ok, it's only monophonic and extremely uncomfortable but you |can create interesting bass sounds because you have detailed control |over the first Overtones which I found to be much more important for the |fatness and growl of a bass sound than the higher ones. |I analysed a sample of an acoustic bass with soundforge and tried to |model this spectrum with the virus. The waveform itself sounded almost |identical. I only was to lazy to program envelopes for each part |to get a less static sound. | |Comments? | |Guido Kirsch |access music electronics |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 20:59:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: kb Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:00:35 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" Interesting! Is it possible to do a hardware upgrade? Or is the sound of the kb version very different, because only then I would be interested in one. btw: I was just browsing on the Access page (looking for info on the kb version but did not find it) and saw that on the Products page under the head 'Features per voice' that the fx processor had a phaser...where did that one come from??? I don't find that one... Who has more info on the kb? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl many many more questions actually...here's one: will an upgrade for the rack version be the same as the kb version? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 21:25:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Epicantic@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:19:44 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus kb Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Epicantic@aol.com I, too, would love to hear more about it. Don't need 5 octaves, but who cares! Hell.....sure I do! I'm quite excited. And now with the Q and everything, I'm really going to be so poor this year. :) * From "Howard Scarr" ...just in case somebody on this list hasn't heard yet! So now we know what Access has been keeping the lid on! The 5-octave keyboard version is 16-note polyphonic, 24-bit DAC, ring-mod, unison mode and.... includes a 27->90 modulation matrix (yupp). Price according to the German mag "Keys" is 3,690 DM. I reckon they'll be offering an expander version soon. Is a hardware update for the standard Virus possible, chaps? In a message dated 3/3/99 1:02:06 PM Central Standard Time, melvins1@ix.netcom.com writes: >* From "nightgoat" > >Where did you get this information from? Is there a picture yet? A web page I could read more about it????? > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 21:56:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:47:02 -0500 From: AbstraKt X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: VIRUS: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From AbstraKt Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >I don't have a problem with beginners in synthesis. I do have problems though with the total >inundation of people involved in garbage genres of music and trashy ebonics sounding >language. When I read mail from this list, I shouldn't keep getting visual images of inner city, >gangster looking, crack smoking juveniles on the other end. Ok, this has gone a bit too far. If you get images of crack-smoking juvenile deliquents every time you hear the words "phat" or "dope", then obviously something is wrong with you, not the list. I don't know if you bulk electronic music into your tidy little bag of "garbage generes" but, the fact is, electronic musicians are undoubtedly the largest consumers of most expensive synth gear these days, and the people making electronic music are for the most part urban youths or aging run-offs of from urban america. On top of that, I doubt that any of them smoke crack. After all, how many crackheads do you know with the money to buy a Virus or the time to use it? Not many I'll assume. Next, I happen to be one of those urban youths, and I use the same vocabulary you are obviously so upset by (although I try to save the phat!'s and dope!'s for a more willing audience) Does that make me any less than you? I scored a 1480 on my SAT's, I get about $22 bucks an hour working as a computer technician, I'm a road DJ, and I have an album & an LP out that I funded myself. Obviously I have better things to do than smoke crack, but that still doesn't keep people like you from staring at me in shopping malls and avoiding me and my friends on the streets because we don't look like you. But, hey! That'll never change as long as we continue to treat the people around us like anything but equals. The sad conclusion is that there will always be discrimination in our lives and on the net. There are people here who won't ever be able to get along with others for some reason or another (usually in their own head). In real life you avoid these people, but here most of us are much less shy about how we feel (this letter being a classic example). Therefore, we all need to learn to respect our meeting places on the net as we respect the homes/places of business of our friends when we choose not to confront those we don't agree with in public. Unfortunately I have a hard time passing up such a blazing grievance, so to keep myself from responding to the slew of replys that will invariably spring up as a result of this message, I'm unsubscribing afterwards. Remember people, there are always going to those in life you don't get along with, but accepting them for who they are is the next step to enlightenment (and it's an amazing stress reliever too). And remember, the next time you decide to participate in an arguement, that there are those who don't want to read your rantings on life, they just wanted a little info about their virus. Be respectful to these people, and turn the energy you would have spent flaming someone into something positive (like getting everyone to add VIRUS: (topic) (as done above) or the like to the subject line in every message so message filtering works or compiling or updating an FAQ of commonly asked questions so you can kindly refer new users to that instead of getting mad at having to answer the same questions over and over...) So the next time your mouse pointer is hovering over the reply button, try to figure out if your reply is actually going to help someone gain new insight, or if it's just the fuel the original flamer needed to keep his self-needed controversy alive. Anyway, sorry about the off-topic post and the length of it... :) It won't happen again! Think differently! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 22:28:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:27:53 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: List Archive? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony Is there a list archive I could review to find out what issues have already been addressed here? Also, is there a list of Virus power user tips compiled from the list? You know, along the lines of that additive synthesis post we saw earlier today? == Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:10:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:55:31 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: VIRUS: Re: FAQ Cc: abstrakt@crossroadsmusic.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 03:47 PM 3/3/99 -0500, you wrote: >* From AbstraKt >Unfortunately I have a hard time passing up such a blazing grievance, so to >keep myself from responding to the slew of replys that will invariably spring up >as a result of this message, I'm unsubscribing afterwards. I humbly ask that you do not unsubscribe for the very same reason that this is probably the intended effect of the original post. You're welcome on the list. And don't let any ignorant fool let you think otherwise. Leaving is not the solution - staying, and contributing, and proving their ignorance is. Just my thoughts on the matter... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:32:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:28:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Krupp Subject: Re: how I make sounds Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp >Then there were some great programming examples for subtractive synthesis in several magazines. They were never about a particular synth, but were just showing the settings in general. Hi! This list would be even better if we started teaching each other what we have experienced, read about or tried to achieve trough the use of substractive syntesis. Then we could all get new ideas and achievements for our music. I know that this takes time, and that time often is a problem, but I would be really interested in hearing about different examples and the laws of sound physics that we all are using when we twist the knobs. I feel that if I knew more I could make better sounds, instead of "twisting in the dark". I have read a little synth-theory too, but I have to admit that I haven't been trying out to much of what I have read. I'll open my synth books again, and if I come over some good stuff I'll contribute. Promise! I just tried out the FM-knob a little more, and it have much potencial in combination with the sync-button. Try to give the osc 2 more volume than osc 1 and change the pitch on osc 2. The pitch of osc 2 is still the same as osc 1, but the character of the sound changes in interessting ways... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:58:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:41:13 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Ways Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 3/3/99 2:06:09 PM, robpapen@multiweb.nl writes: >With Ringmodulation (volume open) and the oscillators volume closed you will get Yamaha CS-80 sounds. Was the original CS-80 capable of ring modulation? Somehow, I have never thought of the basic sound of that synth (one of my all-time favorites) as being an example of ring modulation. Am I mistaken? btw- the uWave XT has a very good CS-80 patch in it's factory presets. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 3 23:45:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:42:18 +0100 From: "ptolemy, child of november" Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: kb Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "ptolemy, child of november" Im so glad that i heard this in time and that i checked my email. I **WAS** going to order a Virus tomorrow, but, after hearing this rumor, i want it confirmed first. Is this only a keyboard version of the Virus? Cos if its that, i think i'll go for the normal one. I already have a Midi keyboard, the Evolution MK-149. Does anyone have any experience using this one? Im quite happy with it till today. Thanks, John Machielsen Marcel Engels wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >Interesting! > >Is it possible to do a hardware upgrade? Or is the sound of the kb version very different, because only then I would be interested in one. > >btw: I was just browsing on the Access page (looking for info on the kb version but did not find it) and saw that on the Products page under the head 'Features per voice' that the fx processor had a phaser...where did that one come from??? I don't find that one... > >Who has more info on the kb? > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels >Email :fsp@wxs.nl >many many more questions actually...here's one: will an upgrade for the rack version be the same as the kb version? > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i Subject: Re: ondes martenot Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp Hi again! Is this the typical sci.fi./horror spooky sound? Are you shure about the spelling? Ondes martenot sounds a little Norwegian... Scince it is a horror thing and ond-words means evil in Norwegian.... Propably a wild guess from me! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 02:16:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: kb Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:30:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" "Hallo Weld!" >from the grapevine marcel is the news that 2.5 Op sys will be an update to present virus owners!!!! : ). well get it all except the 24bit and 16 voice part. >weld This is good news indeed! Hope it's true... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 02:16:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: ondes martenot Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:15:09 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Can anyone tell me what an Ondes Martenot is? I heard one in a song ("Fireball" by Gerry Anderson, apparently some Science Fiction series from UK) and it sounded so funny and tiny. Does anyone have a picture of one? I made a sound on the Virus in about a minute (I suppose it's only a sinewave with lots of portamento and delay) but I would love to have more information. Wonderfully OT, but right up my street! 1) Ondes Musicales von Maurice Martenot is/was a Theremin-relative from the late 1920s. Pitch was controlled by pulling on a ring attached to the end of a wire with the left hand (for glissando), while playing a keyboard with the right. Dynamics were controlled via a key in front of the keyboard. 2) Yes. "Fireball XL5" from Gerry and Sylvia Anderson. Cult puppet-series in the UK, pre-"Thunderbirds" (see "Calling Elvis" video from Dire Straights). Didn't know Gerry Andersen did the music! 3) I've got a picture in a book called "Soundscapes", but it's not very good. Anyone got a diagram? BTW: *Really* interesting and highly underrated was the extremely expressive "Electronic Sackbut", a keyboard instrument built by Hugh Le Caine (Canada) in the mid to late 1940s. Hugh Le Caine built the world's first voltage controlled music synthesizer (1945), touch sensitive keyboard, and variable speed multi-track tape recorder. And best of all, he has the same birthday as me ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 02:05:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:04:41 +0000 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ondes martenot Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "hans w. koch" hi kai ondes martenot is the name of a quite old electronic musical instrument, invented by french martenot. originally it had no keyboard, but some wire on which you move along with your finger to make this portamento like (glissando) tones. the loudness is controlled by an extra wheel. the instrument has its position also in symphonic orchestras as e.g. the french composer olivier messiaen uses it in his "turangalila" symphonie (you should get a cd of it). its spheric like sound comes from 1. the excessive use of glissando and 2. the simple sinusoidal character of the basic sound. hope to have helped you a little hans "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Can anyone tell me what an Ondes Martenot is? I heard one in a song ("Fireball" by Gerry Anderson, apparently some Science Fiction series from UK) and it sounded so funny and tiny. Does anyone have a picture of one? I made a sound on the Virus in about a minute (I suppose it's only a sinewave with lots of portamento and delay) but I would love to have more information. > >thanks for any help... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:45:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:36:43 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: ola from Frankfurt Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi there, I just returned home from Frankfurt and Christoph, Jörg and a lot of others from TSi and friends told me to pass on warm greetings to you all. Messe seems to be very exhausting, everybody is very very busy talking to everybody else but everyone is in a cheerful mood. (Except for the guys at Emagic who I told that the Logic 4.0 interface looks like dogshit to me.... but that's an entirely different story...) Christoph acks me to give you a quick rundown of the new features in 2.5. These will be the same for the Virus and the Virus kb (which looks intensly beautiful, btw!) - 512 singles, 128 multi patches - ringmodulator - LFOs use the OSC's waves (68 waves for the LFOs) - mod matrix with 27 (possible) sources and 90 (possible) destinations. (this works by extending the features of the "ASSIGN" parameters. LFOs and Envelopes are now mod sources. - unison mode (up to 12 (16 for the kb) voices per note (replaces TWIN mode)) - compare mode - several small but effective improvements that I don't tell you to keep the wait interesting... Christoph said 2.5 should be out by next week. oh there's a few things that the kb has that can't be implemented in the Virus because of different hardware: - 16 voices (faster DSP) - keyboard - 24 Bit processing - PART buttons (that switch between the parts of a multi) - LFO 1 KEYFOLLOW and LFO 2 KEY TRIGGER and SATURATION are replaced by "EDIT" buttons that call up a menu. There are 4 more, I can't quite remember where they are. - LFO SHAPE has 5 LEDs. The settings are: Sine, Tri, Saw, Pulse and WAVE. this is where you select any of the other waves that were previously only available to the oscillators. I'm sure there will be some clever way to do this in software in the VIRUS - 2 footswitch connectors as for the rumor mill, while explaining how the 512 sounds came about, Christoph suggested that he is working on a feature where the OS will allow the user to burn their own sounds into the FlashROM. (the 512 sounds are 256 factory presets, which are read only, plus 256 RAM slots, the ones we have been using all along. The only difference is that now we can access the 256 sounds which had been hidden from view before.) The list price for the Virus kb is 3690 DM or 1874.05 EUR, street prices should be a good 10% below that. all the best.... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:45:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:41:57 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Newbie with a Question Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:55 PM +0100 on 04.03.1999 Tony wrote: >I have OS 1.54 (been trying to download 2.01 for days, but the server must be down or something). have you tried both addresses? www.muenster.de/~canine/virus and the www.tsi-gmbh.de/access one? you should be lucky on one of them...;) 1.54 does not have as many features as 2.01 but it's a very stable system and you should have no problems using it. Midi Clock as others have said before me (Dimi, Anig Browl) is recognized automatically and so as long as you are sending it, this should not be a big deal. Do try to update again and try that. There might be something I'm forgetting about 1.54... good luck. I'm looking forward to the webcast...! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:55:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:43:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: how to make choir pads (was RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:06 PM +0100 on 04.03.1999 steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com wrote: >repeat my question : is it possible to make choir-pads alike sounds with the Virus, or is there more complexity (modular system) involved? There is one really good choir in the presets, I have modified it and saved it to a different location, so I don't know where it is anymore. It should be possible, I guess. I haven#t tried it though and I was hoping for some good advice on this topic....;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:56:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:47:06 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:33 PM +0100 on 04.03.1999 Christian Hofmann wrote: >* From Christian Hofmann >As it appears, the Virus has some kind of single shot LFO mode. Can this actually be used to give the pitch a short kick on attack, e.g. for creating brassy patches, while still having both env's freely available for filter & amp? Either that or you can use the filter envelope to modulate the pitch of OSC 2. Or you could wait until next week and wait what the modulation capabilities will be like in 2.5...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 14:54:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elwood.Smith@Chase.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHASE To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:45:42 -0500 Subject: Re: VIRUS: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elwood.Smith@chase.com I applaud the gentlman with that response, I am also one of the kids that came from the ghetto, I DJ around the world have a few EP's out and also a LAN Administrator. I will foward this message to Roy Davis Jr, Felix Da House Cat and the DJ Pierre all who I know very well and these kids use the same language, they will get a luagh out of that. I bet the gentleman complaining about the the language used will never top what we did for house music. AbstraKt on 03/03/99 03:47:02 PM Please respond to access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com cc: (bcc: Elwood Smith/CHASE) Subject: VIRUS: Re: FAQ * From AbstraKt Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >I don't have a problem with beginners in synthesis. I do have problems though with the total >inundation of people involved in garbage genres of music and trashy ebonics sounding >language. When I read mail from this list, I shouldn't keep getting visual images of inner city, >gangster looking, crack smoking juveniles on the other end. Ok, this has gone a bit too far. If you get images of crack-smoking juvenile deliquents every time you hear the words "phat" or "dope", then obviously something is wrong with you, not the list. I don't know if you bulk electronic music into your tidy little bag of "garbage generes" but, the fact is, electronic musicians are undoubtedly the largest consumers of most expensive synth gear these days, and the people making electronic music are for the most part urban youths or aging run-offs of from urban america. On top of that, I doubt that any of them smoke crack. After all, how many crackheads do you know with the money to buy a Virus or the time to use it? Not many I'll assume. Next, I happen to be one of those urban youths, and I use the same vocabulary you are obviously so upset by (although I try to save the phat!'s and dope!'s for a more willing audience) Does that make me any less than you? I scored a 1480 on my SAT's, I get about $22 bucks an hour working as a computer technician, I'm a road DJ, and I have an album & an LP out that I funded myself. Obviously I have better things to do than smoke crack, but that still doesn't keep people like you from staring at me in shopping malls and avoiding me and my friends on the streets because we don't look like you. But, hey! That'll never change as long as we continue to treat the people around us like anything but equals. The sad conclusion is that there will always be discrimination in our lives and on the net. There are people here who won't ever be able to get along with others for some reason or another (usually in their own head). In real life you avoid these people, but here most of us are much less shy about how we feel (this letter being a classic example). Therefore, we all need to learn to respect our meeting places on the net as we respect the homes/places of business of our friends when we choose not to confront those we don't agree with in public. Unfortunately I have a hard time passing up such a blazing grievance, so to keep myself from responding to the slew of replys that will invariably spring up as a result of this message, I'm unsubscribing afterwards. Remember people, there are always going to those in life you don't get along with, but accepting them for who they are is the next step to enlightenment (and it's an amazing stress reliever too). And remember, the next time you decide to participate in an arguement, that there are those who don't want to read your rantings on life, they just wanted a little info about their virus. Be respectful to these people, and turn the energy you would have spent flaming someone into something positive (like getting everyone to add VIRUS: (topic) (as done above) or the like to the subject line in every message so message filtering works or compiling or updating an FAQ of commonly asked questions so you can kindly refer new users to that instead of getting mad at having to answer the same questions over and over...) So the next time your mouse pointer is hovering over the reply button, try to figure out if your reply is actually going to help someone gain new insight, or if it's just the fuel the original flamer needed to keep his self-needed controversy alive. Anyway, sorry about the off-topic post and the length of it... :) It won't happen again! Think differently! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 15:39:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 99 15:36:51 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Marcel Engels wrote : >Hmmm that modulator is a a little bit different as an ensemble fx he? yes it is,but its mostly a little bitdifferent cause of the way its dne in the old stringmachines.. :=) >I also got a Polysix with an ensemble knob on it and yes, it reminds me a bit of the solina sound...although not quite. its done nearly the same as in any other stringmachine,thats why it reminds u to it... >Doesn't the MicroWave II have an ensemble fx? the microwave xt and the microwave 2 got something called like that,but i never tried it ,since i haven`t got them... :=( >Would be great if those were in the virus...(no I won't mention it again about >the fx processor :-)) maybe in one of those next updates (hi chris,hi guido !! ) 8>) > >Thanks Nico and others...for pulling out my Visa card and have less money on my account :-))) welcome to the club,man... :=) regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 16:46:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:42:33 +0100 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Christian Hofmann On Thu, 4 Mar 99 15:36:51 -0000 Nico Herz wrote: >* From Nico Herz > >Marcel Engels wrote : > >>Hmmm that modulator is a a little bit different as an ensemble fx he? > >yes it is,but its mostly a little bitdifferent cause of the way its dne in the old stringmachines.. :=) Aah, my favorite subject - Solina strings & how they are made. I think the Solina secret is that the 3 delay lines are modulated by 2 LFO signals each, using substantially different LFO speeds. Actually it's 2 LFOs with 3 differently phased outputs each, and these 6 signals are combined in a weird manner to modulate the 3 delay lines. >>I also got a Polysix with an ensemble knob on it and yes, it reminds me a bit of the solina sound...although not quite. > >its done nearly the same as in any other stringmachine,thats why it reminds u to it... If I remember correctly, the Polysix uses single LFOs, and the 3 FX types select 1, 2, or all 3 delay lines. It definitely is a good thing for the single oscillator Polysix, but it hasn't got the classs of a Solina. >>Doesn't the MicroWave II have an ensemble fx? > >the microwave xt and the microwave 2 got something called like that,but i never tried it ,since i haven`t got them... :=( I haven't yet heard a digital ensemble effect that is in any way comparable to the Solina. Hi, you Access analog modeling guys - in case you don't know what to do next... ;-) Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 16:55:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:55:58 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Re: Newbie with a Question To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony >>I'm planning to use the Virus with my ASR-X for live performance, but I can't get the Virus arpeggiator clock to sync to MIDI clock coming from the X. > >Hm weird. Waht exactly does it do? does it drift? is it slower or faster? >Which OS version do you have? > I have OS 1.54 (been trying to download 2.01 for days, but the server must be down or something). Basically the Virus just ignores the X. There's a menu item in the ASR-X for transmitting MIDI clock -- you have to turn it on, the default is off. I've looked in the Virus manual, but I can't find any mention of a similar feature to turn MIDI clock receive on. Does it just work automatically for you or have I missed something obvious? (Yes, I have MIDI out from the X connected to MIDI in on the Virus). BTW my gig last night went well, the owners are talking about setting up a webcast next week, I'll post the details if that's appropriate for this list. == Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 17:11:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:06:15 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >its done nearly the same as in any other stringmachine,thats why it reminds u to it... What do you mean with a 'stringmachine' ? BTW : i started all this'solina-stuff' by asking about the possibility of making 'choir-strings' with the Virus, but I should have written 'choir-pads' so i repeat my question : is it possible to make choir-pads alike sounds with the Virus, or is there more complexity (modular system) involved? greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 21:23:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:18:48 -0800 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Thanks Access Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz To the Access Development Team, So, we now have a well specified mod matrix, a ring mod AND a new unison mode! I'm so impressed with you guys on the Access team. For one, you actually listen to your user base, which by itself is a rarity in my experience. And two, you implement the wishes and requirements of your users, which is a total bonus. The Virus was already an excellent synth (and has currently taken over most jobs in my studio which were previously handled by my K2000 and Nord Lead.) This has made it so much better. I'm especially excited about the mod. matrix. Many thanks Bilbo Bagginz BTW, does the extra RAM and ROM mean that we will get more destination to save our patches to, or that we will have a bank of library presets? >So, here's the info on OS 2.5 which is available for both versions: - modulation matrix: 27 sources and 90 destinations - ringmodulator >- very flexible unison mode >- 256 ROM (flash) and 256 RAM singles for a total of 512 sounds The new OS is for free and will be available at the website. > -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 17:31:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:26:16 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Bye for now! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I don't think you shouldn't come to the meeting because you don't have a Virus. The main issue of the meeting is to meet. Not to tweak. And if you want to tweak, you can always use my virus! But I can understand you don't have the money for the trip. Hopefully there will be a second meetig, somewhere, sometime, where you can come! Dimitri. At 06:07 2-3-99 PST, you wrote: >* From "Peter Steens" Now I'll just have to save up. The oldfashioned way. Stop smoking. Stop going out. Preferably stop eating. >And to the EVP-people: I'm terribly sorry. I joined in a moment of sheer naivity. I can not come to the meeting. I mean, there's no point if I can't bring a Virus. Besides: the money I spend will now be stripped to the bare essentials. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 17:50:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:46:16 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: List Archive? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Well, I always keep all messages, inlcuding those of people sending 'unsubscribe' in the subject. (which is NOT the meaning as they can see at the end of this message ;-) so, i can send you a copy of it. It's quite large by the way, about 4,4 meg, 900Kb zipped. Mail me privately at di-mi@ds.nl if you want a copy. Dimitri. At 13:27 3-3-99 -0800, you wrote: >* From Tony > >Is there a list archive I could review to find out what issues have already been addressed here? Also, is there a list of Virus power user tips compiled from the list? You know, along the lines of that additive synthesis post we saw earlier today? == >Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock > >http://www.tonyphillips.com > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 17:53:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:49:14 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Newbie with a Question Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 07:55 4-3-99 -0800, you wrote: >* From Tony >I have OS 1.54 (been trying to download 2.01 for days, but the server must be down or something). Basically the Virus just ignores the X. There's a menu item in the ASR-X for transmitting MIDI clock -- you have to turn it on, the default is off. I've looked in the Virus manual, but I can't find any mention of a similar feature to turn MIDI clock receive on. Does it just work automatically for you or have I missed something obvious? (Yes, I have MIDI out from the X connected to MIDI in on the Virus). Hello! Yes, as soon as the Virus receives a MIDI clock, it fogets about it's own BPM settings. It is somewhere hidden in the mual by the way, but I understand you're not going to study on a manual when you have a gig within some hours. :-) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 17:53:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:54:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com > >What do you mean with a 'stringmachine' ? Old 70s string machines...that were only capable of doing string kind of sounds. And they were very very good at it (all in my opinion of course). Could well be that you or others hate it, but I LOVE it (and that is still an understatement). >BTW : i started all this'solina-stuff' by asking about the possibility of making 'choir-strings' with the Virus, but I should have written 'choir-pads' so i repeat my question : is it possible to make choir-pads alike sounds with the Virus, or is there more complexity (modular system) involved? Choir-like pads can be made yes. Usually you have to turn up the resonance quite a bit but not all the way up. Close the filters to about 25% and you have some kind of choir sounds. Haven't really tried it on the Virus, but it works on other analogs. Later! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl Great to see more people like the Solina sound...I'm probably on the wrong list with asking on which recording you like the Solina...:-) So I won't! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 17:59:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:55:28 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: New Ways--CS ring Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Aaah! Did you SELL your CS-80! There's only a few hundreds of them made! I have a CS-60. It's 40 Kg, so not half as heavy as your 100Kg cs-80. At the yamaha site there was a link to a page of a cs-80 owner. Well, that Notron sequencer must be a very great sequencer now! I have to admit, the ring-mod of the CS-60 (which is the same) is quite beautifull! It would be nice to have that sound in a more portable weight than 40 or 100Kg, like a very portable virus... Dimitri. At 18:35 3-3-99 -0400, you wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >yah the CS80 has a wonderfully organic sounding ringmod. just listen to any earlier vangelis album to hear some great examples. this ring mod circuit was based on a board designed by fairchild electronics. i just recently sold my CS80 to raise $$ for my new Notron sequencer. but still miss this sound a bit!! : ( >cheers to all >weld >Marzzz@aol.com wrote: >> >>* From Marzzz@aol.com >> >>In a message dated 3/3/99 2:06:09 PM, robpapen@multiweb.nl writes: >> >>>With Ringmodulation (volume open) and the oscillators volume closed you will get Yamaha CS-80 sounds. >> >>Was the original CS-80 capable of ring modulation? Somehow, I have never thought of the basic sound of that synth (one of my all-time favorites) as being an example of ring modulation. Am I mistaken? btw- the uWave XT has a very good CS-80 patch in it's factory presets. >> >>Marshall >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 18:21:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:17:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: EVP meeting: Time and place are arranged!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! To all EVP members (which is quite easy to become: just enlist): The date and place are now known! It is in Amsterdam at the "Bacchus", a cellar under a church with bar and dancefloor, run by some friends of mine. And the time is: saturday, april, 24th 1999. If you're not a 'member' yet, but you want to be at the meeting too, take a look at our page at http://145.99.128.7/evp and send you a mail containing -name -email -URL (http://....) -What you're gonna take at the meeting -What everyone should know about you Later on, I will regularly update an evphowto.txt to give you detailed information. It will be available on the page. CU! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:32:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:27:37 -0800 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz Hi Christian, I have both the Virus and the Roland JP8000 which I believe is exactly the same as the 8080 minus the Vocoder and plug in mic.and 2 extra notes of polyphony. (if there are other differences, please clue me in Virus listers.) The JP8000 is a great synth no question, but really cannot match the power of the Virus. Consider for example that the JP8000 offers a mere 2 part multitimbrality against the 16 of the Virus. This is an important factor for it effectively means that if it is the only synth that you own, you can use the Virus on it's own to create the best part of a track with (at a stretch) even a whole track if you create music using multi-layered monophonic lines. Simply not possible with the JP. Let's assume that you are doing music seriously, you've got yourself a good sampler and mixer and a few fx and you want to make a record. The JP has one stereo out. The Virus has 3 stereo outs which in a typical recording situation translates to one stereo out and four mono outs, enabling you to eq and add external fx to those 4 channels.This is so important in a recording situation and makes the Virus effectively a JP8000 plus four separate mono synths. The JP at best could do 2 parts, and those thru the same outputs. One of the only things that the JP had in it's favour was a Ring modulation function. This has now been added to the Virus' capability via the new O.S upgrade. The JP has only 2 lfo's with very limited modulation destination. The Virus has 3 and had many more modulation destinations even before the modulation matrix was added. Once you start to consider some of the other features such as having 2 filters per voice which means the ability to create some sounds that only a Virus (or modular synth) can make, then the Roland starts to look a little limited And to answer your question about pitch envelope, yes it can be easily done using one of the lfo's in envelope mode and this is before the modulation matrix has been added. Catchalata, Bilbo Bagginz If Christian Hofmann wrote: >* From Christian Hofmann > >Hi, >at the risk of being flamed, I still haven't decided between a Virus and the 8080. Of course I already know which one's the better synth ;-) > >Apart from that, I like to have some kind of pitch env, which the JP offers directly. >As it appears, the Virus has some kind of single shot LFO mode. Can this actually be used to give the pitch a short kick on attack, e.g. for creating brassy patches, while still having both env's freely available for filter & amp? > >TIA >Christian >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:44:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:36:09 -0800 From: Bilbo Bagginz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus - Slicer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Bilbo Bagginz chuck wrote: >* From chuck > >Was wondering if the Virus is capable of doing the 'Slicer' effect that is found on the Roland Mc505. I have done similar efx with a gate and had a percussive sound trigger the gate to let thru pads, or similar sounds with a rythmic effect. >Thanks, Chuck. Yes, I've used the Virus both as a mono and a stereo gate. The added advanage is that you trigger it with MIDI notes rather than using a mixer channel direct out as the sidechain trigger, which is a whole lot simpler. I've also used it as an auto panner, which syncs to MIDI clocks. Bilbo Bagginz >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 19:38:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:33:54 +0100 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Christian Hofmann Hi, at the risk of being flamed, I still haven't decided between a Virus and the 8080. Of course I already know which one's the better synth ;-) Apart from that, I like to have some kind of pitch env, which the JP offers directly. As it appears, the Virus has some kind of single shot LFO mode. Can this actually be used to give the pitch a short kick on attack, e.g. for creating brassy patches, while still having both env's freely available for filter & amp? TIA Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 19:50:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Newbie with a Question Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:35:13 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Tony wrote... >Hi I'm new to this list -- and the Virus. Just got mine this weekend. >I was going to get the uWave XT, but I guess I just "caught the bug". Here's my question, I'm planning to use the Virus with my ASR-X for live performance, but I can't get the Virus arpeggiator clock to sync to MIDI clock coming from the X. Make sure the ASR-X is actually sending clock out - it's an option in the MIDI setup. I had no problem using these 2 instruments together. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 19:53:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 20:50:20 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: Virus Keyboard + small Messe report Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Hello everybody! I know this has been asked and explained before but could somebody tell once more about the modulation matrix? What is it exactly? And access please, tell me you didn't forget the compare function! --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 20:02:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: gatrall@pop2.slip.net Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:59:35 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Simon Gatrall Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall >* From Christian Hofmann > >Hi, >at the risk of being flamed, I still haven't decided between a Virus and the 8080. Of course I already know which one's the better synth ;-) I have only played with the JP8000. I was very disappointed with the filters. The interface is good, but the sound just isn't compelling. At high resonance the filter sounds very digital and grating, wheras the Virus does a pretty convincing job of being pseudo-analog. I would like to try the vocoder on the JP8080, but I still think the Virus is a much better value. 12 voices instead of 10, 16 part multi-timbral instead of 2. I would like the morph feature on the JP80XX though. >Apart from that, I like to have some kind of pitch env, which the JP offers directly. >As it appears, the Virus has some kind of single shot LFO mode. Can this actually be used to give the pitch a short kick on attack, e.g. for creating brassy patches, while still having both env's freely available for filter & amp? Yes. I've used it this way a lot. You can either use the sawtooth as a decay envelope (ie you have a sharp attack with adjustable decay) or you can use the triangle wave along with the "trisymetry" to get a attack/decay env. You can also use the other LFO waveforms (Pulse, Sample&Hold, Sample&Glide, Sine). I'm looking forward to the 2.5 version of the OS and the modulation matrix because there will be more ways to route the LFOs (I assume). -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 20:26:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:13:13 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:33:54 +0100, Christian Hofmann wrote: >As it appears, the Virus has some kind of single shot LFO mode. Can this actually be used to give the pitch a short kick on attack, e.g. for creating brassy patches, while still having both env's freely available for filter & amp? Yes. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 21:18:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:15:21 +0100 From: HANNIBAL X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FAQ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >I don't have a problem with beginners in synthesis. I do have problems though with the total >inundation of people involved in garbage genres of music and trashy ebonics sounding >language. When I read mail from this list, I shouldn't keep getting visual images of inner city, >gangster looking, crack smoking juveniles on the other end. And i have problems with ASSHOLES like you who abuse this list for making racist statements!!!!!!!!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 21:23:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:17:51 -0600 From: chuck To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus - Slicer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From chuck Was wondering if the Virus is capable of doing the 'Slicer' effect that is found on the Roland Mc505. I have done similar efx with a gate and had a percussive sound trigger the gate to let thru pads, or similar sounds with a rythmic effect. Thanks, Chuck. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 21:34:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:29:38 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: Virus Keyboard + small Messe report To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt I would like some stickers with the VIRUS logo so I can put them on my schoolbag and stuff! But the new specs look incredible too! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 21:42:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jester's Tears" To: Subject: Re: FAQ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:37:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness stop this war, make music ...keep on rocking!!! Willi Schneider (Jester's Tears) http://www.jesters-tears.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: HANNIBAL <HANNIBAL@PowerOnline.net> An: access-list@teklab.com <access-list@teklab.com> Datum: Donnerstag, 4. März 1999 21:32 Betreff: Re: FAQ Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >I don't have a problem with beginners in synthesis. I do have problems though with the total >inundation of people involved in garbage genres of music and trashy ebonics sounding >language. When I read mail from this list, I shouldn't keep getting visual images of inner city, >gangster looking, crack smoking juveniles on the other end. And i have problems with ASSHOLES like you who abuse this list for making racist statements!!!!!!!! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:12:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Virus Keyboard + small Messe report Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:56:31 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >I know this has been asked and explained before but could somebody tell once more about the modulation matrix? What is it exactly? It allows you to rewire the synth in software. You can send control signals from one module to another and come up with completely wacky sounds. For example... LFO2 -> LFO1Speed 40% will make the wave of LFO1 shimmy and shake LFO1 -> Filter1 Decay 50% will make the sound jump about Env1 -> LFO2 speed 100% will make things really strange I am so excited about this and looking forward to it! What I have described about is only a demonstration example, but you can get totally wild and crazy sounds which never stop changing with matrix modulation. And the realtime modulation is so much more fun too - you might make the sound turn inside out this way with a little clever programming :-) If you have experimented a lot with the controller assignments in the Virus you know how powerful a way this is to change the sound. With matrix modulation I would say you are squaring this. You can have several parameters interacting with each other to produce bizarre changes in the sound. With the fast envelopes, clean oscillators and outstanding filters of the virus I cannot wait to try this - right now all my modular programming is on an Oberheim Matrix-6. Dear friends at Access, will we get a choice of the sample source for the LFOs? How about envelope triggering? Tracking gnereators? ArghI'msoExcited! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 23:04:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:45:13 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Christoph acks me to give you a quick rundown of the new features in 2.5. These will be the same for the Virus and the Virus kb (which looks intensly beautiful, btw!) >- 512 singles, 128 multi patches How do they squeeze the extra RAM out of the Virus, or am I missing something here? Compression? RAM we never knew we had in the first place? Space Aliens? Just curious... >- ringmodulator >- LFOs use the OSC's waves (68 waves for the LFOs) - mod matrix with 27 (possible) sources and 90 (possible) destinations. >(this works by extending the features of the "ASSIGN" parameters. LFOs and Envelopes are now mod sources. Awesome. I can hardly wait to play with this. >- LFO SHAPE has 5 LEDs. The settings are: Sine, Tri, Saw, Pulse and WAVE. this is where you select any of the other waves that were previously only available to the oscillators. I'm sure there will be some clever way to do this in software in the VIRUS Wow! If only it were true! I can imagine it'd be a tricky thing to add, but it'd be so awesome. >as for the rumor mill, while explaining how the 512 sounds came about, Christoph suggested that he is working on a feature where the OS will allow the user to burn their own sounds into the FlashROM. (the 512 sounds are 256 factory presets, which are read only, plus 256 RAM slots, the ones we have been using all along. The only difference is that now we can access the 256 sounds which had been hidden from view before.) Ah, that explains it... Awesome. Are these guys kick-ass engineers or what? Access, you are the best. Thank you so much guys! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 23:10:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:54:08 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Virus Keyboard + small Messe report Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 10:56 PM 3/4/99 +0100, you wrote: >* From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, >There were lots of stickers at the Messe !!! Got some myself... ;-) Get me some too! I love stickers! :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 22:59:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 22:56:43 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus Keyboard + small Messe report Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, There were lots of stickers at the Messe !!! Got some myself... ;-) Ciao, Joeri Valentijn Steenhoudt wrote: >* From Valentijn Steenhoudt > >I would like some stickers with the VIRUS logo so I can put them on my schoolbag and stuff! >But the new specs look incredible too! > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 23:09:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:02:53 +0100 From: Jan Hildebrandt To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: kb Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jan Hildebrandt >Cos if its that, i think i'll go for the normal one. I already have a Midi keyboard, the Evolution MK-149. >Does anyone have any experience using this one? Yes! I'm a proud owner :-) of an Evolution MK149. I know there are many better (i.e. more professional) MIDI Keyboards out there, but the MK149 is very cheap. If you like it depends on what you expect from it. I'm no professional musician, and for hobby artists like me the MK149 is definitely OK. I'd never use it on stage, but in my little "home studio" (aka living room) it is a useful, neat tool that works perfectly together with my virus (virus rules!). >Im quite happy with it till today. I am, too. Jan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Hildebrandt, Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Pretzfelder Str. 12 D-90425 Nuernberg, Germany There's no such thing as gravity... the earth just sucks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 23:05:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:08:10 +0100 Subject: Sounds Unbelievable ;-))) From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" .... but I admit there will be a lots of work on the adaption...... RINGMODULATION..... ahhhhh Cant wait Ray >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >Hi there, > >I just returned home from Frankfurt and Christoph, Jörg and a lot of others from TSi and friends told me to pass on warm greetings to you all. > >Messe seems to be very exhausting, everybody is very very busy talking to everybody else but everyone is in a cheerful mood. (Except for the guys at Emagic who I told that the Logic 4.0 interface looks like dogshit to me.... but that's an entirely different story...) > >Christoph acks me to give you a quick rundown of the new features in 2.5. These will be the same for the Virus and the Virus kb (which looks intensly beautiful, btw!) > >- 512 singles, 128 multi patches >- ringmodulator >- LFOs use the OSC's waves (68 waves for the LFOs) - mod matrix with 27 (possible) sources and 90 (possible) destinations. >(this works by extending the features of the "ASSIGN" parameters. LFOs and Envelopes are now mod sources. >- unison mode (up to 12 (16 for the kb) voices per note (replaces TWIN mode)) - compare mode >- several small but effective improvements that I don't tell you to keep the wait interesting... > > >Christoph said 2.5 should be out by next week. > >oh there's a few things that the kb has that can't be implemented in the Virus because of different hardware: > >- 16 voices (faster DSP) >- keyboard >- 24 Bit processing >- PART buttons (that switch between the parts of a multi) - LFO 1 KEYFOLLOW and LFO 2 KEY TRIGGER and SATURATION are replaced by "EDIT" buttons that call up a menu. There are 4 more, I can't quite remember where they are. >- LFO SHAPE has 5 LEDs. The settings are: Sine, Tri, Saw, Pulse and WAVE. this is where you select any of the other waves that were previously only available to the oscillators. I'm sure there will be some clever way to do this in software in the VIRUS >- 2 footswitch connectors > > >as for the rumor mill, while explaining how the 512 sounds came about, Christoph suggested that he is working on a feature where the OS will allow the user to burn their own sounds into the FlashROM. (the 512 sounds are 256 factory presets, which are read only, plus 256 RAM slots, the ones we have been using all along. The only difference is that now we can access the 256 sounds which had been hidden from view before.) > >The list price for the Virus kb is 3690 DM or 1874.05 EUR, street prices should be a good 10% below that. > >all the best.... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 23:16:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:14:34 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Re: Newbie with a Question To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony ---"K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: > >have you tried both addresses? www.muenster.de/~canine/virus and the www.tsi-gmbh.de/access one? you should be lucky on one of them...;) > I didn't realize you had it on your site, thank you so much, I just downloaded the update. Don't suppose you'd like to post the 2.0 manual addendum pdf on your site now (I know, "greedy damn Americans...") ;-) == Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Mar 4 23:26:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:23:59 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Krupp Subject: RE: Virus Keyboard, LFO, Vokoder Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp Hi! - right now all my modular programming >is on an Oberheim Matrix-6. > >Dear friends at Access, will we get a choice of the sample source for the LFOs? How about envelope triggering? Tracking gnereators? ArghI'msoExcited! > >Anig Browl I use the Matrix-6 to, and i miss the envelope triggering in the Virus. I would like to trigger envelopes and LFO's in env mode without repressing keys. I'd allso like to try triggering LFO's wihle arpeggi'ating... Tracking generator is allso a lot of fun, but the sample-source-LFO-stuff I newer found a proper use for in my Mx-6! -I'd be happy for a lession, though!!! :¤] Virus again: It seems like the keyfollow do not affect LFO 1 speed in env-mode... Am i wrong! I got inspired by all the string-talk, and made up a multi with the 3 first parts responding to midichannel 1. Then I made four singles, one for each channel with fairly similar sounds. Triangle sub, used different waveforms and osc 2 set to +12 semitones. I used long attacks and all envelopes a little different. LFO's modulated softly with different amounts on all singles, then a little chorus. If you do not need to use the Virus as a band-in-one-box, this is good for making fat sounds. I got a little distortion doing this wich I have not figured out yet... Suggestions? Vokoder: The manual says that the filter-select buttons offer you to modulate either the carrier or the modulator. I.e. to change the freq spread for one of them. I do not get a choice: I access both regardless of my filter-buttons. Help? Soon to end... Kai Niggeman: Did you get my THANKS-mail? I have not full controll over this mail-stuff. Untill next time... :¤] Krupp! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 13:27:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:02:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Newbie with a Question Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:14 PM +0100 on 04.03.1999 Tony wrote: >downloaded the update. Don't suppose you'd like to post the 2.0 manual addendum pdf on your site now (I know, "greedy damn Americans...") ;-) ahem... that's there as well, isn't it? it should be on the documentation page. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 13:28:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:07:48 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:47 PM +0100 on 04.03.1999 weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: > >the 3690 DM price of the virus keyboard converts out to 2050$ u.s. figure a good dealer price of 30% off AND THATS AROUND 1400 U.S. hhummmmmmmm : ) it's worth it I think. I should be getting one soon. I asked christoph for a low serial number...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 00:14:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:11:19 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Primal Scream Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Primal Scream unsubscribe (double accounts to same email address) eric ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 00:43:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Epicantic@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:33:03 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Epicantic@aol.com I have both the Virus, a Jp-8000 and the Jp-8080....redundant ;) In comparison, the 8080 sounds more "stable" so it sounds more like a replication of analog whereas I find my Virus to sound more out of control and dirty, causing it to sound like my Korg Mono/Poly (without the 20 minute warm up to tune). Both do their own thing very well. The overdrive/distortion on the Virus is better and warmer. The Roland distortion sounds like wax paper over a comb. It's really not that bad, but you get the idea. I like doing the whole "replicate the Jupiter Series" with my 8080. It actually does that well, so ambient can be easy. The upper/lower "photo" of sound you can copy is cool, too, and the unison mode sounds just like my Jupiter 6. The Virus just has a sound all to it's own. It really doesn't sound like anything else of mine. Kind of like my Kawai K5000 and my Waldorf XT. I kind of hate buying a synth, plugging it in, pressing a note and thinking, "dammit, I have a wall of shit that sounds like this!" The Virus won't make you think that. Look at it this way.....the 8080 and Supernova (have that too, and all are advised to avoid it UNTIL OS V.3 happens) are more your "generic" imitators of big pads, strings, and leads. They do that well. The Virus and XT go in a different direction of strangeness. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 08:39:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:36:15 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Ok, I have no access to a Solina string machine, and on most records, the sound is heavily processed with tape echo, filters and phasers. So I really have no idea what the plain machine sounds like. But here is my best guess. We are discouraged from sending binary attachments to the list, so I put the file on my server. The file is ---> http://www.happysad.org/StrMachine.mid. Remember to do a "save as". If you can't save it directly from your email program, open this link in your browser: ---> http://www.happysad.org/temp.html It sounds pretty retro to me. I have used LFO1 and LFO3, set at different frequencies, to modulate one of the oscillators in the "ensemble" fashion. Then, I enabled Twin mode, so we have four oscillators per note. Of course, I added some noise and made the sound mono for authenticity. (I doubt that the Solina was a stereo machine) Note that this sound does not replicate what you hear on the records from that time, but the direct sound from the string machine, without effects. Add your own phaser and tape echo. Again, I have no access to the original, so this sound is only a guess. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 01:00:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: New Ways Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:56:37 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Come on Access. Can't wait to make Korg MS-20 sounds (ringmodulation) on the Virus. >Rob I went to the Trade Fair in Frankfurt today. According to one of the Access developers, OS 2.5 will be available next week. Includes ring mod, more control sources (envelopes, velocity or LFOs can control LFO speeds --- for instance), tons of LFO shapes and double the memory i.e. direct access to "ROM" voices. Yippeee! BTW: While I was at Tsi I checked out the Waldorf instruments - knowing the Virus, I missed the smoothing a *lot* ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 01:08:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:07:00 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Interesting... I owned a JP8000 once and got the Virus to replace it. I don't regret it, but, the one thing I really loved about the JP8000 was the strings. I haven't heard any digital synth yet to make those dreamy string sounds that Jean Michel Jarre done in his album "Oxygen." Virus can come close, but not that close. :-( -M Well, I don't own a NordLead, but my friends do and it does a great job too!!! Epicantic@aol.com wrote: >* From Epicantic@aol.com > >I have both the Virus, a Jp-8000 and the Jp-8080....redundant ;) > >In comparison, the 8080 sounds more "stable" so it sounds more like a replication of analog whereas I find my Virus to sound more out of control and dirty, causing it to sound like my Korg Mono/Poly (without the 20 minute warm up to tune). > >Both do their own thing very well. The overdrive/distortion on the Virus is better and warmer. The Roland distortion sounds like wax paper over a comb. It's really not that bad, but you get the idea. > >I like doing the whole "replicate the Jupiter Series" with my 8080. It actually does that well, so ambient can be easy. The upper/lower "photo" of sound you can copy is cool, too, and the unison mode sounds just like my Jupiter 6. > >The Virus just has a sound all to it's own. It really doesn't sound like anything else of mine. Kind of like my Kawai K5000 and my Waldorf XT. > >I kind of hate buying a synth, plugging it in, pressing a note and thinking, "dammit, I have a wall of shit that sounds like this!" > >The Virus won't make you think that. > >Look at it this way.....the 8080 and Supernova (have that too, and all are advised to avoid it UNTIL OS V.3 happens) are more your "generic" imitators of big pads, strings, and leads. They do that well. The Virus and XT go in a different direction of strangeness. > >:) >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 01:09:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:08:26 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Hey!!! What's up with OS 2.5 for the Virus desk top synth!!!??? =M= weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >FYI > >the 3690 DM price of the virus keyboard converts out to 2050$ u.s. figure a good dealer price of 30% off AND THATS AROUND 1400 U.S. hhummmmmmmm : ) >weld >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:25:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: OS 2.5 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:22:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I'm looking forward to the 2.5 version of the OS and the modulation matrix because there will be more ways to route the LFOs (I assume). You assume right! Simply being able to control the speed of the LFOs internally opens up a whole new universe of sound (I hope these words don't sound too korgy!). I got stuck at Tsi for so long today trying out all the possibilities that I didn't have time to check out any Korean accordeons ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:25:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:23:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" For choirs you should try strong formants (careful use of static filter resonance and chorus might get you there). >BTW : i started all this'solina-stuff' by asking about the possibility of making 'choir-strings' with the Virus, but I should have written 'choir-pads' so i repeat my question : is it possible to make choir-pads alike sounds with the Virus, or is there more complexity (modular system) involved? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 01:43:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:39:32 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Access Keyboard? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall I'm very happy to see the news of the keyboard and v2.5 of the OS, but I have a few basic questions that no one has answered so far: 1. When is it going to be available? 2. What does it look like? I know someone mentioned "lots of wood." This isn't necessarily a good thing in my book. Is it basically the same color, same knobs, same switches, or is it very different? 3. Does it have the same number of outputs? 4. How does the compare function work? 5. How do the part buttons work? 6. What are the pitch-bend and mod controllers like? Are they wheels? sticks? 7. Was there any way to compare the 24 bit DAC versus the 16 bit DAC? Does it make a significant difference, or is it just marketing fuel? 8. What is the damn thing called? Is it just "Virus KB?" That would be so lame. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 02:26:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:10:40 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Virus Keyboard pic now online. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Gang, Kanou Ame tried to send this message (with attached picture) to the access-list, but it bounced to me. I've taken the picture attachment off and made it available on the web at this address: http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/viruskb.jpg Kanou - thanks for providing this picture, sorry your original mesage didn't go through (though it is naughty to send large attachments to the mailing list...) Looks pretty interesting! j. >Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 01:31:27 +0100 >From: Kanou Ame >Organization: Sinlyncxhyl-Studios >To: Virus Mailing-List Subject: Pic of Virus kb > > >--------------E9910C33011595C9515D0997 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >for all of you who d like to see the virus kb or who have not seen it yet: >i made an easy scan of the german magazine called KEYS. > >there it is ==> >[Image] > >i myself prefer the old virus and it would be nice if we could give him that new 24 bit >chip i think. > >greetings > >a freedom mann > >kanou ame > j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 02:26:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:11:23 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan I like the way the Virus KB has space on the right for, what else, but *another* Virus! Man, I want one of these! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 00:40:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Todd Wollons" To: Subject: Re: Cubase studio module settings for virus? Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:38:19 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Todd Wollons" OK fellas, I'm still having problems here... Canine, you said you use this. Can you give me your settings withing the module setup? So I can compare them to mine? Thanks, Todd -----Original Message----- From: Nico Herz To: Access List Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Cubase studio module settings for virus? >* From Nico Herz > >Todd Wollons wrote : > >>I think I am doing everything as you have specified. I still get a message >>which says "MIDI Devide Not Responding. Please Check Connections and Settings." I'm using an Opcode Studio 128X midi patchbay. This is beginning to make my blood boil.. :) > >hi , >i work with a mac and sound diver, >i had the same. it did not work until i switched from "sysex" to "polypressure",wich i found out is used >to comunicate better in the virus than sysex.... in the control-menue step to the index >midi control< there is an option called >hi page< and >low page< in>hi page< set the parameter to >polypressure< NOT to >sysex<. this worked with mine..... :=) > >regards, >nico > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>no lowcut studios< >nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de > >"may the sound be with you" > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 03:16:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:12:21 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall Well, now that I've seen a picture, I have to say that unless the KB really has better features, I'll stick with my current Virus. It is not very inspiring industrial design. I like the way the Nord Lead looks better. While they may be too bright for some, I think that the Waldorf stuff also looks much better than Access' equipment. Even Novation looks more interesting. Some of you may laugh, and I know that the sound is the most important thing, but if I'm going to look at an instrument all the time, I want it to excite my eyeballs as well as my ears. Tom Oberheim told me how years ago he basically just revised the industrial design on one of his synths, gave it a new model name and doubled the sales. You could argue over the validity of this, but ultimately if Access sells more synths to people, even if it is for the "wrong" reasons, it is better for all of the die hard Virus lovers. I have been trying to fight off the urge to go buy a new Mac G3 and a Palm V, and until I saw the picture of the Virus Keybaord, I wanted one of those too. I don't need either a G3 or a Palm V, but they have slightly better features than what I have already, and they LOOK so much cooler, and have slightly better ergonomics (well except for the braindead keyboard and mouse on the G3). This is all because of industrial design. Access, please hire better ID people in the future. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 03:47:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:31:14 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I have been trying to fight off the urge to go buy a new Mac G3 and a Palm V, and until I saw the picture of the Virus Keybaord, I wanted one of those too. I don't need either a G3 or a Palm V, but they have slightly better features than what I have already, and they LOOK so much cooler, and have slightly better ergonomics (well except for the braindead keyboard and mouse on the G3). This is all because of industrial design. Coming from a relatively modest part of the world, I at first find this way of thinking somewhat shallow and flaccid but then I'm reminded that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Personally, I'm undecided about the looks of the VirusKB. It's not the best picture in the world, and I'm sure we'll see better ones. My initial thought was "hmm, it doesn't look that cool", but that was instantly replaced with "wonder how nice it sounds at 24bit and with the extra voices"... But buying something just based on design rather than functionality may just seem assbackwards to me... am I incorrect in thinking this is primarily a result of western consumerism at it's height? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 04:08:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Scott Abel To: "'Access Virus List'" Subject: OT: Power Supplies and Playing Live Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:59:10 +1300 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Scott Abel Sorry that this is a bit off-topic, its just that I notice that many people on the list are interested in or have played 'live'. My first gig's coming up - but its outdoors and all the gear will be running from a generator. The live rig consists of: Access Virus CS1x Prophecy Akai S2000 w/Zip drive Akai SG01v Deep Bass Nine (kind of redundant but nice) Folio SX mixer 600w PA (One day it will just be the virus...) Has anyone had experience hooking up this much gear to a generator? I'm kinda worried about hooking all the power adaptors on to a multiboard in case it overloads the generator - would a surge suppressor or something similar work? Should the PA be on a separate circuit? How many wall warts can be plugged into one outlet via a multiboard before it all blows... Thanks for any suggestions in advance, Scott. PS - our power supply here is 240v 50hz PPS - On the subject of programming the virus, and using it as an additive synth like Guido suggested... it's possible to coax vaguely PPGish/uWave wavetable pads by setting up, say, 6 singles in a multi with each single assigned a separate waveform (out of the 64 waves), different levels of chorus/filter+bandpass modulation with LFO 2 for each single and then set up the amp envelopes of each single so that each single crossfades (not a perfect morph but anyway..) in time with other singles ie each successive single has a longer attack and shorter delay... gets quite interesting if the LFO1 on each single is set to the same rate but inversely modulating the level of filter gain... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- This e-mail message and any attachments contain information that is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 04:20:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:09:55 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Yes, I reckon you are. Joy in aesthetic appreciation is, by my way of thinking, one of those things that makes human life a little more tenable, or a lot more rich. b << am I incorrect in thinking this is primarily a result of western consumerism at it's height? >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 04:20:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:12:01 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >>I have been trying to fight off the urge to go buy a new Mac G3 and a Palm V, and until I saw the picture of the Virus Keybaord, I wanted one of those too. I don't need either a G3 or a Palm V, but they have slightly better features than what I have already, and they LOOK so much cooler, and have slightly better ergonomics (well except for the braindead keyboard and mouse on the G3). This is all because of industrial design. > >Coming from a relatively modest part of the world, I at first find this way of thinking somewhat shallow and flaccid but then I'm reminded that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". > >Personally, I'm undecided about the looks of the VirusKB. It's not the best picture in the world, and I'm sure we'll see better ones. My initial thought was "hmm, it doesn't look that cool", but that was instantly replaced with "wonder how nice it sounds at 24bit and with the extra voices"... > >But buying something just based on design rather than functionality may just seem assbackwards to me... am I incorrect in thinking this is primarily a result of western consumerism at it's height? I am primarily interested it the functionality, but if it looks boring, it's harder for me to part with my money. I have bought some music equipment for almost the opposite reason. IE "it looks boring and doesn't have much in the way of a flashy user interface, so they must of spent the money on the sound" (I just bought 2 Lexicon MPX100s because they sound so much better than other flashier effects boxes in the same price range) However, yes people buy stuff because of how it looks or makes them feel all the time. You probably do it everyday, without even realizing it. Why do you buy the brands of toothbrush or car that you do? Do you buy the toothbrush because it's cheeper, or works better, or because it LOOKS like it works better? Do you read Consumer Reports before you pick out a toothbrush? Do you scientifically test a bunch of them? No, you go to the supermarket/drugstore and you buy the one made by the company with the biggest advertising budget and the most appealling industrial design. Do most people need sport utility vehicles? No, they buy them because they like driving down the street in this big behemoth that itimidates all the other poeple driving cars. I work as an industrial design/product engineer so obviously I have my biases, but I can assure you that there are a lot of people that made Apple's iMac the number one selling computer not because it has great functionality, but because it looks cool. I haven't made a cent yet with my music. Hopefully one day I will, but until then this remains a very expensive hobby. I don't NEED a new Virus Keyboard, but if they looked cooler, I might have WANTED one more. I like the equipment that I use to be functional and look good. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 02:26:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Todd Wollons" To: Subject: Re: Virus Keyboard + small Messe report Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:17:17 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Todd Wollons" STICKERS WOULD BE COOL!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Valentijn Steenhoudt To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Virus Keyboard + small Messe report >* From Valentijn Steenhoudt > > >I would like some stickers with the VIRUS logo so I can put them on my schoolbag and stuff! >But the new specs look incredible too! > > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 04:21:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:22:12 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 06:31 PM 3/4/99 -0800, you wrote: >But buying something just based on design rather than functionality may just seem assbackwards to me... am I incorrect in thinking this is primarily a result of western consumerism at it's height? I don't think so. I mean, I think the sound should come first, but I think appearance and image count for a lot too. If someone created a new sound module that exactly resembled the face of Kenneth Starr, I wouldn't buy it no matter how cool it was. And if you're going to be using it live, the value of a good image triples. I wouldn't want to be caught playing some cheap Casio Sears-special keyboard with built-in speakers live. Cam Visit the official Clockwork website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 04:53:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:42:14 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Looking at that photo, I'd have to say I'm quite stoked that they left a big chunk of land up there for my other Virus to sit on, which will become a dedicated drum module, right there for the tweakin'. b ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 05:12:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:08:45 -0500 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus KB - nice design!+ some Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore my personal opinion is that the better a kb looks better it sounds.. cause when i sit in my car and listen to my favorite cd's i think to myself damn those keyboard that these lunatics are using must look awesome! new digital yamaha mixer...korg trinity, zi , prophecy, new g3, discoball, new acura/lincoln utility vehicle, jhonson&jhonson toothbrush, campbells soup, ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 06:07:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 06:03:26 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: First 4 virus-channels weird ?! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker I had big problems with noises three weeks ago and TSI exchanged kindly my board. But now my problems are bigger than befor: An incoming signal in multisinglemode on midichannel 1 is effecting viruschannel 1 and 3. Channel two and three are ignored. Channels 4-16 work fine. I resetted the virus two times. Any idea? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 06:47:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:46:17 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Fair argument. The Virus is definitely retro. But, so is it's sound. =M= Simon Gatrall wrote: >* From Simon Gatrall > >Well, now that I've seen a picture, I have to say that unless the KB really has better features, I'll stick with my current Virus. It is not very inspiring industrial design. I like the way the Nord Lead looks better. While they may be too bright for some, I think that the Waldorf stuff also looks much better than Access' equipment. Even Novation looks more interesting. Some of you may laugh, and I know that the sound is the most important thing, but if I'm going to look at an instrument all the time, I want it to excite my eyeballs as well as my ears. > >Tom Oberheim told me how years ago he basically just revised the industrial design on one of his synths, gave it a new model name and doubled the sales. You could argue over the validity of this, but ultimately if Access sells more synths to people, even if it is for the "wrong" reasons, it is better for all of the die hard Virus lovers. > >I have been trying to fight off the urge to go buy a new Mac G3 and a Palm V, and until I saw the picture of the Virus Keybaord, I wanted one of those too. I don't need either a G3 or a Palm V, but they have slightly better features than what I have already, and they LOOK so much cooler, and have slightly better ergonomics (well except for the braindead keyboard and mouse on the G3). This is all because of industrial design. > >Access, please hire better ID people in the future. > >-s!mon > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 06:50:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:49:00 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design!+ some Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Funny! When people come over and see my Prophecy they always say WOW, that looks cool!!! It does, doesn't it. ;-) =M= Herb Ivore wrote: >* From Herb Ivore > >my personal opinion is that the better a kb looks better it sounds.. cause when i sit in my car and listen to my favorite cd's i think to myself damn those keyboard that these lunatics are using must look awesome! >new digital yamaha mixer...korg trinity, zi , prophecy, new g3, discoball, new acura/lincoln utility vehicle, jhonson&jhonson toothbrush, campbells soup, > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 07:39:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 22:38:17 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus and Galaxy Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Hello! Hey, is any one out there having any luck being able to back up the Virus patches? I'm having a problem backing up my Virus patches with galaxy and and it always states something like this: Oh hell, I don't remember!!!??? When I try it tomorrow I 'll write it down for ya. But still the same, I can't back up those patches!!! :-\ YEs, I know what to do, I've been able to back up my Microwave II and Prophecy without any problems... THanks! =M= ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 08:46:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:42:26 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Simon Gatrall) wrote: >>Well, now that I've seen a picture, I have to say that unless the KB really has better features, I'll stick with my current Virus.<< Same here. The problem is that the Virus has too much functionality that needs to be accessed through the LCD display. This was their chance to bring out more knobs and buttons to the front panel, but all they did was stick the original design into the corner of a keyboard. That is the main problem, good/bad looks aside. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:59:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 07:55:41 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket monokrom@sirius.com wrote: >I've been trying to create those great Jean Michel Jarre Strings. But haven't really... :-\ The typical JMJ string sound (Oxygene/Equinoxe period) was achieved with a phaser. The string sound I uploaded yesterday does not have that. It is the "raw" string machine sound. Try the P-WAVE sound from my home page. This is a silky string sound with the band-stop filter used as a kind of phaser. http://www.happysad.org/VirusSounds.html Personally, I use the P-KARMA sound (also on my home page), layered with string patches on my JP8000, WSA1, QY700, and CZ101, with a slow phaser from my Boss SE70, and some heavy EQ dips (at 900 and 1200) on my Lexicon MPX1. Oh and plenty of looooong reverb. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 10:40:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:35:15 +0100 Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" >I just returned home from Frankfurt and Christoph, Jörg and a lot of others from TSi and friends told me to pass on warm greetings to you all. These guys are simply great. >Christoph acks me to give you a quick rundown of the new features in 2.5. These will be the same for the Virus >- 512 singles, 128 multi patches >- ringmodulator >- LFOs use the OSC's waves >- mod matrix with 27 (possible) sources and 90 (possible) destinations. - compare mode I was in love with the virus, now I am completly in love with the virus and with Access...this is simply amazing...they have answered all our wishes. So whats next...an incorporated TC electronics finalizer ; ) Thanks Access. Paulo Abreu --------------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 12:48:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:44:44 +0100 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Christian Hofmann On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:59:35 -0800 Simon Gatrall wrote: >>As it appears, the Virus has some kind of single shot LFO mode. Can this actually be used to give the pitch a short kick on attack, e.g. for creating brassy patches, while still having both env's freely available for filter & amp? > >Yes. I've used it this way a lot. You can either use the sawtooth as a decay envelope (ie you have a sharp attack with adjustable decay) or you can use the triangle wave along with the "trisymetry" to get a attack/decay env. Now that trisymetry thing sounds very nice. I didn't dare to hope for this kind of flexibility, but they really did it And a big thank you to all who responded, especially for those fairly unbiased and informative JP/Virus comparisons. I've been on this list only for a week now, but this seems to be some helpful community :-) Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 13:06:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: List Archive? Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:03:14 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Is there any chance that these messages somehow could be compiled to an online database in which you could search on keywords, quickly finding the info or some related info to the subject on which you search? That would be rather cool. Of course you'd have leave out some of the messages so that only useful mails are available. Cheers! -FutureVirus >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >Well, I always keep all messages, inlcuding those of people sending 'unsubscribe' in the subject. (which is NOT the meaning as they can see at >the end of this message ;-) >so, i can send you a copy of it. It's quite large by the way, about 4,4 meg, 900Kb zipped. >Mail me privately at di-mi@ds.nl if you want a copy. > >Dimitri. > >At 13:27 3-3-99 -0800, you wrote: >>* From Tony >> >>Is there a list archive I could review to find out what issues have already been addressed here? Also, is there a list of Virus power user tips compiled from the list? You know, along the lines of that additive synthesis post we saw earlier today? == >>Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock >> >>http://www.tonyphillips.com >> >>_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 13:32:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:29:07 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Please tell me how to do these kind of sounds, as I'd really like a an array of Jarre-like sounds once I get my Virus (in a months time or so...) Which, BTW reminds me: has anyone else on the list ordered their Virus from Music Central (US)? How much do they charge for shipping, and is it possible to pay without using a VISA-card? And will the power... the power-thingy (for a lack of a more precise word :-)) work in UK? Thanks a lot! -FutureVirus I >haven't heard any digital synth yet to make those dreamy string sounds that Jean >Michel Jarre done in his album "Oxygen." > >Virus can come close, but not that close. :-( > >-M > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 13:35:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:34:02 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Thanks Roland!!! :-) I've been trying to create those great Jean Michel Jarre Strings. But haven't really... :-\ =M= Ronald Pieket wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > >Ok, I have no access to a Solina string machine, and on most records, the sound is heavily processed with tape echo, filters and phasers. So I really have no idea what the plain machine sounds like. > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 14:12:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Bye for now!? Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 05:08:54 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi Dimitri (and everyone else) Well... First of all please excuse me my theatrical ways of expression. It seems to be a hardware-flaw somewhere deep inside the curciuts I choose to call my brain. Then, as I've also written in another mail, I might actually have the Virus at that time, by simply saving up the good old fashioned way, and purchasing it from Music Central which saves a quite substantial amount of money. And who knows; I might even have the money to go to Amsterdam?! And just to ask again: does anyone have any experiences with ordering from Music Central? Thanks! This is definitely one of the most friendly mailing-lists, even though much of the techie-talk is beyond my brains current capabilities... :-) -FutureVirus! >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >I don't think you shouldn't come to the meeting because you don't have a >Virus. The main issue of the meeting is to meet. Not to tweak. And if you >want to tweak, you can always use my virus! But I can understand you don't >have the money for the trip. Hopefully there will be a second meetig, somewhere, sometime, where you can come! > >Dimitri. > >At 06:07 2-3-99 PST, you wrote: >>* From "Peter Steens" Now I'll just have to save up. The oldfashioned way. Stop smoking. Stop >>going out. Preferably stop eating. >>And to the EVP-people: I'm terribly sorry. I joined in a moment of sheer >>naivity. I can not come to the meeting. I mean, there's no point if I can't bring a Virus. Besides: the money I spend will now be stripped to >>the bare essentials. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 15:24:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:12:27 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Well, the first time I was playing on a record in 1980 (God, I'm so old) I played one track with Solina. In those days I didn't know anything about keyboards technically. >I added >some noise and made the sound mono for authenticity. (I doubt that the Solina was a stereo machine) It must have been a mono instrument. I just listened the record (which was pretty amusing) and the strings are panned to the left. If it was stereo the mixing engineer would have used it as a stereo instrument. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:10:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:09:55 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Oops (was Re: Newbie with a Question) To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony > >ahem... that's there as well, isn't it? it should be on the documentation page. > Well now I feel like John Cleese in Fawlty Towers: "Oh you meant Harold Rob-BINS, I thought you were talking about that awful writer Harold Robinson..." Sorry folks, must have had my contacts in backwards or something. Thanks Canine. == Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:20:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:17:53 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Virus List Archive To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony ---Peter Steens wrote: > > >Is there any chance that these messages somehow could be compiled to an >online database in which you could search on keywords, quickly finding >the info or some related info to the subject on which you search? That would be rather cool. Of course you'd have leave out some of the messages so that only useful mails are available. > I'm sort of working on something like that. I've been filing away messages that are really tips and I'm going to dig through the archives when I get them. I belonged to the VS-880 list for a long time and they compile a monthly tip list. Mine probably won't be that extensive, but I'm hoping to have something on my web site in the next week or so. I figure since I'm so new to the instrument (and the list), this is the best way for me to learn it. == Check out SERZO, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:28:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:25:11 +0100 From: Christian Hofmann To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Christian Hofmann On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:12:27 +0200 Mara Salminen wrote: >* From Mara Salminen > >Well, the first time I was playing on a record in 1980 (God, I'm so old) I played one track with Solina. In those days I didn't know anything about keyboards technically. > >>I added >>some noise and made the sound mono for authenticity. (I doubt that the Solina was a stereo machine) > >It must have been a mono instrument. I just listened the record (which was pretty amusing) and the strings are panned to the left. If it was stereo the mixing engineer would have used it as a stereo instrument. Oh yes, the original Solina _has_ stereo outs! Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:33:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:33:06 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Schroeder" Subject: Re: Bye for now!? To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "J. Schroeder" Hi Peter, I purchased my Virus from Music Central (along with a Microwave XT and Nord 2 Rack) and was very pleased with their service. Everything was in stock and I got my shipment in three days. --js ---Peter Steens wrote: > >* From "Peter Steens" > > > > > >Hi Dimitri (and everyone else) > >Well... First of all please excuse me my theatrical ways of expression. >It seems to be a hardware-flaw somewhere deep inside the curciuts I choose to call my brain. >Then, as I've also written in another mail, I might actually have the Virus at that time, by simply saving up the good old fashioned way, and >purchasing it from Music Central which saves a quite substantial amount >of money. And who knows; I might even have the money to go to Amsterdam?! >And just to ask again: does anyone have any experiences with ordering from Music Central? > >Thanks! This is definitely one of the most friendly mailing-lists, even >though much of the techie-talk is beyond my brains current capabilities... :-) > >-FutureVirus! > > >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>I don't think you shouldn't come to the meeting because you don't have >a >>Virus. The main issue of the meeting is to meet. Not to tweak. And if >you >>want to tweak, you can always use my virus! But I can understand you >don't >>have the money for the trip. Hopefully there will be a second meetig, somewhere, sometime, where you can come! >> >>Dimitri. >> >>At 06:07 2-3-99 PST, you wrote: >>>* From "Peter Steens" Now I'll just have to save up. The oldfashioned way. Stop smoking. >Stop >>>going out. Preferably stop eating. >>>And to the EVP-people: I'm terribly sorry. I joined in a moment of >sheer >>>naivity. I can not come to the meeting. I mean, there's no point if I >>>can't bring a Virus. Besides: the money I spend will now be stripped >to >>>the bare essentials. >> >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, >and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this >list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> >> > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:59:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Music Central & OS Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 07:55:57 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi everybody! Just wanted to know if Music Central's Virus' have got the latest OS installed, or if oyu have to do that yourself. If they don't sell 'em with 2.01, is it then 1.54? -FutureVirus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:09:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:03:38 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Virus Keyboard + small Messe report WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! Joeri Vankeirsbilck schreef: >So, here's the info on OS 2.5 which is available for both versions: >- modulation matrix: 27 sources and 90 destinations Oh, mighty..! >- ringmodulator Oh, mighty..!! >- very flexible unison mode Oh, mighty..!!! >- 256 ROM (flash) and 256 RAM singles for a total of 512 sounds Oh, mighty!!! >The new OS is for free and will be available at the website. >Now some info on the keyboard version: >- it looks great ! it has lots of wood, so it looks very nice. Oh, mighty..!!!! >- 24 bit DA converters, 18 bit AD converters - 16 voices (faster processor) >- high quality (it feels great !) light weighted keyboard with 61 keys. Note >on/off velocity, aftertouch, pitch bend, modwheel, 2 switch/control pedals. >- weight: 13 kg >- dimensions: 993*352*102 mm ouch! I don't have the money!! GRMBL....... But this is great once again. So great. I am surprised it is all for free (the update)! I am very pleased with the ringmod. A ringmod makes very special sounds. And the modulation matrix is sooner in my Virus, than the Regelwerk is in my house! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 17:45:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: visnick#europa.com@192.168.0.1 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:36:52 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Marc Visnick Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Visnick At 07:55 AM 3/5/99 +0000, you wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > > >monokrom@sirius.com wrote: >>I've been trying to create those great Jean Michel Jarre Strings. But >haven't >>really... :-\ > >The typical JMJ string sound (Oxygene/Equinoxe period) was achieved with a phaser. The string sound I uploaded yesterday does not have that. It is the "raw" string machine sound. > >Try the P-WAVE sound from my home page. This is a silky string sound with the band-stop filter used as a kind of phaser. > >http://www.happysad.org/VirusSounds.html > >Personally, I use the P-KARMA sound (also on my home page), layered with string >patches on my JP8000, WSA1, QY700, and CZ101, with a slow phaser from my Boss SE70, and some heavy EQ dips (at 900 and 1200) on my Lexicon MPX1. Oh and plenty >of looooong reverb. > >- Ronald. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 17:40:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:39:06 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Music Central & OS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com How in the hell are we suppose to know???!!! :-\ =M= Peter Steens wrote: >* From "Peter Steens" > >Hi everybody! > >Just wanted to know if Music Central's Virus' have got the latest OS installed, or if oyu have to do that yourself. If they don't sell 'em with 2.01, is it then 1.54? > >-FutureVirus > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 16:59:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:56:04 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: List Archive? WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! Well, I guess there is any chance, but I won't do it! :-) No, I just don't have the time right now. I guess with some emacs macro's I could very well make some indexes, but even then, the text woul be 4-6Mb! But if there's somebody who wants to do this, that would be great! I have the source: All messages from march 1998. Dimitri. Peter Steens schreef: >* From "Peter Steens" > > >Is there any chance that these messages somehow could be compiled to an >online database in which you could search on keywords, quickly finding >the info or some related info to the subject on which you search? >That would be rather cool. Of course you'd have leave out some of the >messages so that only useful mails are available. > >Cheers! > >-FutureVirus ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 17:04:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:01:21 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Virus List Archive WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! That's a very good tip list, the VS-880 list,I read it. It is full of info on effects, strorage, problems, etc. It made me decide to buy one. My wallet then decided not no. :'-( A tip list like that, if anyone could arrange that..! Dimitri. Tony schreef: >* From Tony > >---Peter Steens wrote: I'm sort of working on something like that. I've been filing away >messages that are really tips and I'm going to dig through the >archives when I get them. I belonged to the VS-880 list for a long >time and they compile a monthly tip list. Mine probably won't be that >extensive, but I'm hoping to have something on my web site in the next >week or so. I figure since I'm so new to the instrument (and the >list), this is the best way for me to learn it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:14:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:04:34 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Schroeder" Subject: Re: Music Central & OS To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "J. Schroeder" Mine is 2.01 ---Peter Steens wrote: > >* From "Peter Steens" > >Hi everybody! > >Just wanted to know if Music Central's Virus' have got the latest OS installed, or if oyu have to do that yourself. If they don't sell 'em with 2.01, is it then 1.54? > >-FutureVirus > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:18:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:05:40 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Elhardt@aol.com schrieb: > >* From Elhardt@aol.com > >(Simon Gatrall) wrote: >>>Well, now that I've seen a picture, I have to say that unless the KB really >has better features, I'll stick with my current Virus.<< > >Same here. The problem is that the Virus has too much functionality that needs to be accessed through the LCD display. This was their chance to bring out more knobs and buttons to the front panel, but all they did was stick the original design into the corner of a keyboard. That is the main problem, good/bad looks aside. Hi there ! Have you ever designed a printed circuit board ? For more knobs and switches you have to design a partly new board.This developing time is in most cases very long. And it`s not that easy to make a pure software funktion to a hardware thing. And what about the software upgrades ? Joerg has to write two softwares for the virus/virus kb. The bigger the differences, the more problems you get. I think in the virus kb is nearly the same hardware as in the table top version.And thats makes the both versions 100 percent compatible. Do you really need more knobs ?? Think about ! It´s not against you, but I know what I`m saying. Wishes Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:19:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Re: OT: Power Supplies and Playing Live To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony >My first gig's coming up - but its outdoors and all the gear will be running from a generator. > >Has anyone had experience hooking up this much gear to a generator? I'm kinda worried about hooking all the power adaptors on to a multiboard in case it overloads the generator - would a surge suppressor or something similar work? Should the PA be on a separate circuit? I don't have personal experience with this, but I certainly would be nervous about it. You know, for instance, that plugging an instrument into a light dimmer socket will blow the power supply. Easy mistake to make on a dark stage in a hurry. I would consider getting a UPC for this gig. You know, the kind they use on server-class PCs. Not cheap, but then neither is repairing your valuable equipment. Good luck. == Check out my web page, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:18:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:18:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Ronald Pieket > >The typical JMJ string sound (Oxygene/Equinoxe period) was achieved with a phaser. The string sound I uploaded yesterday does not have that. It is the >"raw" string machine sound. The typical Jarre string sound was made on an Eminent organ! which goes thru an ANALOG phaser (don't forget that! :-)). I haven't heard one single convincing digital phaser which does sound analog!!! So Virus...will you take the challenge? :-) In the beginning I had only one synth with no fx at all :-) But still I wanted a phaser like sound...so this is what I did. Filter 1 on 40 and filter 2 on 80 (goes to 100) and LFO-ed them both slowly...this way I had a sort of phaser :-) The Bandsperr on the Virus does sound very very nice! About the kb: hmmm maybe (on request?) you can also put your own virus in it...meaning that on the right side there's some kind of hole where your virus can be put in...:-) But on top is okay too... Still...I would probably buy another rack version...looks nicer when they are both in the same rack! (slowly building your modular system :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl that mod-matrix looks very promising!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:22:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:19:58 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus kb -> Design OK, keyboard and construction perfect ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi, I can understand that people are complaining on the design after seeing that picture. You should see it for real, it's much better in real life ! The great thing is that it feels very well constructed ! The keys feel great, the wheels as well and the construction is rock-solid ! This is one of the nicest keyboards in ages. This design might become a new classic... I'll try to scan the new brochure this weekend. I can't guarantee anything, as I don't have a scanner myself. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 17:31:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: how I make sounds, part deux Date: Fri, 5 Mar 99 17:28:54 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote : >I hardly ever try to go for a name, but go for a sound. At least that's something I'd like to think..;) hi, it should be like this,u `re right,but since every synth has its own character of sounding (more or less..), its easier for the ones who know about those synths to decide via the names of those synths. f.e. i would never use the nordlead for great pads,i would use the matrix 12 for it because of its oscillator-and routinpossibilitys. or i would normally not use the matrix for punchy basses (cause of its terrible lame envelopes), therefore i would use a sampler or the virus, wich can phase-syncronise its oscillators and u can add some punch to the attack,also. of course u can`t say that generally,but mostly it worx good like this.....8>) regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:51:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:45:04 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus KB in States, when? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Hi, does anyone here have any information about when the Virus KB will start arriving in the United States? I gotta get me one of those low serial-# units! Thank you for any info. b members.aol.com/bhaber ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:47:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:46:18 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Thanks for the tip Marcel!!! =M= Marcel Engels wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From Ronald Pieket >> >>The typical JMJ string sound (Oxygene/Equinoxe period) was achieved with a phaser. The string sound I uploaded yesterday does not have that. It is the >>"raw" string machine sound. > >The typical Jarre string sound was made on an Eminent organ! which goes thru an >ANALOG phaser (don't forget that! :-)). I haven't heard one single convincing >digital phaser which does sound analog!!! So Virus...will you take the challenge? :-) > >In the beginning I had only one synth with no fx at all :-) But still I wanted a phaser like sound...so this is what I did. Filter 1 on 40 and filter 2 on 80 (goes to 100) and LFO-ed them both slowly...this >way I had a sort of phaser :-) >The Bandsperr on the Virus does sound very very nice! > >About the kb: >hmmm maybe (on request?) you can also put your own virus in it...meaning that >on the right side there's some kind of hole where your virus can be put in...:-) >But on top is okay too... >Still...I would probably buy another rack version...looks nicer when they are >both in the same rack! (slowly building your modular system :-)) > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels >Email :fsp@wxs.nl >that mod-matrix looks very promising!!! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:48:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:48:06 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > >For choirs you should try strong formants "Strong formants"? =m= ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 18:52:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: s-cappiello@pop.ski.mskcc.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:52:55 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Steven Cappiello Subject: Re: Virus kb -> Design OK, keyboard and construction perfect ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steven Cappiello >* From Joeri Vankeirsbilck > >Hi, > >I can understand that people are complaining on the design after seeing that picture. You should see it for real, it's much better in real life ! The great thing is that it feels very well constructed ! The keys feel great, the wheels as well and the construction is rock-solid ! This is one of the nicest keyboards in ages. This design might become a new classic... Why didn't they use more of the front panel's real estate ??? conserving money, i guess ? --------------------------------------------------- Steven Cappiello Asst. to Dr. Kathryn Anderson and Dr. Mary Baylies Sloan-Kettering Institute for Cancer Research 430 E. 67th Street, RRL 1001 New York, NY 10021 phone: 212-639-2594 fax: 212-717-3623 email: s-cappiello@ski.mskcc.org --------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 19:18:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 99 19:16:03 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Christian Hofmann wrote : >Oh yes, the original Solina _has_ stereo outs! no, its 2xmono. thats a difference,cause the modulator worx 2 times mono,not on a stereo signals,but individually on both monochannels. but its still sounding some kind of stereo.... ;=) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 04:23:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:20:20 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: > >hey nico, thats the EMS aks synthi suitcase. was also a different version called the vcs3 i believe. they are little modular based synths which use a pin matrix for routing componets. really unique bizarre sounds. unfortunetly no longer made but on the used market usually for 2000-3000$ U.S. : ( Actually, the VCS-3 and Synthi-A are still being made to the best of my knowledge. Check out the EMS home page: http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/ Current price for a new VCS-3: UKP 1800. A brand new Synthi-A: UKP 1600. The Synthi-AKS (a Synthi-A with built-in sequencer) is out of production. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 20:47:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: Music Central & OS Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:46:31 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" >* From "Peter Steens" > >Hi everybody! > >Just wanted to know if Music Central's Virus' have got the latest OS installed, or if oyu have to do that yourself. If they don't sell 'em with 2.01, is it then 1.54? > i was told that it is sold with the latest(2.x) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 20:57:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:57:31 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Tips Archive To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony In what is starting to stretch into a very long lunch hour I updated my web site with an example of a tips page just using some of the ideas expressed here in the past few days. If I can get a copy of the list archive, I might have time to put out something a little more extensive this weekend. Please check it out and give me some feedback (remember I'm no html jockey!) http://www.tonyphillips.com/Virus/Tips_Frame.htm == Check out my web page, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 21:14:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:09:00 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >...several small but effective improvements that I don't tell you to keep the wait interesting... Thanks ;-) >Christoph said 2.5 should be out by next week. (BTW: Who was the helpful guy with the mid-length dark hair?) Somebody in the booth was complaining that speech through the Virus vocoder, despite it's 32 bands, is less understandable than his cheapo (MAM?). Anybody else agree with this? Personally, I found you can get almost talkbox quality by using 15-20 bands and a lot less than maximum Q-factor on a pure saw (i.e. no noise mixed in). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 21:14:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:11:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >But buying something just based on design rather than functionality may just seem assbackwards to me... am I incorrect in thinking this is primarily a result of western consumerism at it's height? Interesting.... hmmm. An important aspect of musical instruments for me is the overall feel, which (according to my own personal definition) includes the sound, the ergonomics, the looks and even the smell (and how they interrelate). I wonder how many Minimoogs or Prophet 5s would have been sold if they were pink and smelled slightly of chewing-gum, instead of wood and flux and ozone? I have to feel good in an "environment", otherwise I prefer to leave. Just checked - my Virus smells of nothing at all! Must remember to stick a little yellow tree to the base, preferably "New Car" flavour ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 21:57:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Koryo" To: Subject: Re: Virus kb -> nice design! Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:59:43 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Koryo" First off, Praise goes out to the Access crew. The architecture and sonic capabilities sold me on this synth over all others in it's category. That alone is something that all manufactures strive for. However in light of recent open communication between Access and this mailing list that helped bring the OS changes makes me also a very proud owner of a Virus. It gives you a 'warm and fuzzy feeling' that the manufacturer does not want to rule the world through digital synthesis, but wants to help you make wonderful, interesting sounds. This level of communication between Joe Shmoe (us) and the manufacturer (Access) I have, sadly, never experienced in the music industry. So for that, I give you Praise. On to MHO about the visual design of The Virus and it's new bigger keyboard brother. The Virus, in my eyes, is a wolf in retro clothing. The original tiny ad in Keyboard caught my eye and started me looking for more info into this little knoby rust and black machine. So the design was effective on me. The keyboard is showing a line direction and fits in perfectly. The virus is solid, compact, and has nice design details. The pulsating LED's are my personal favorites. The design decisions that were made (Q: should we make this thing look like a old synth? or Our production volume is really low, how are we going to make a case for this thing and make it different from all the others? Q: How much do those damn pots cost?) I understand. Now when they make their new line (possibly called "Disease") of synths they will choose a different design direction. i.e. lots more knobs, bright colors... Form over function? Sometimes, witness a beautiful woma.... er I mean flower. Function over form? Never, witness anything designed solely by an engineer. Although aesthetically it's not my most favorite, (that goes to the Waldorf XT or Q) it has a very solid differentiating look that I welcome in my home. So for that I give you more Praise. My .02 Duckets. Cory Williamson Industrial Designer Strategix ID P.S. I wouldn't mind at all if you (read Access) designed some sequencers or samplers. P.P.S. If any one could help me out with sampler buying decisions (e6400 vs. A3000 vs. S5000) please email me. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 22:35:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Epicantic@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:22:06 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Music Central & OS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Epicantic@aol.com I was really hesitant about the whole PC upgrade thing, too, and worried that I'd get stuck with an early version of something or another. Really, though, you needn't be concerned about updates with your PC, as I'm assuming that's what you use. (?) I put in a MusicQuest Midi Card (not by myself;) and downloaded updates with the free Cubase thing on that one site, and have not had one issue yet. My XT is updated, I revised my very very old Roland MKS-70 (jx-10 in-a-rack), update my Virus whenever, and my Nord Modular (which I still have a hard time understanding). Honestly, it's really easy once you get the MIDI card put in and are not trying to update using your soundblaster port. :) That's like 60% failure rate. I've tried. And this is coming from a person who didn't know how to actually format a floppy disc on drive A, couldn't understand where you "run" programs from, nor can draw a straight line in Corel Draw. I'm not kidding. In a message dated 3/5/99 1:52:03 PM Central Standard Time, lauger@punkass.com writes: >* From "lauger" > >>* From "Peter Steens" >> >>Hi everybody! >> >>Just wanted to know if Music Central's Virus' have got the latest OS installed, or if oyu have to do that yourself. If they don't sell 'em with 2.01, is it then 1.54? >> > > >i was told that it is sold with the latest(2.x) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 22:42:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:30:05 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus kb -> Design OK, keyboard and construction perfect ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 3/5/99 11:29:08 AM, joeri@nbdj.com writes: >You should see it for real, it's much better in real life ! The great thing is that it feels very well constructed ! The keys feel great, the wheels as well and the construction is rock-solid ! This is one of the nicest keyboards in ages. This design might become a new classic... Years ago we had piles of keyboards. More recently we had refrigerator racks of modules. Now we have desktop synths with plenty of knobs, and soon we will want piles of keyboards (Virus KB, KXT, Q, etc.) again. Time to start dusting off that ol' "Wakeman-Emerson flying multi-keyboard technique!" Life is great.......if we can afford it! Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 23:26:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:04:03 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >>the 3690 DM price of the virus keyboard converts out to 2050$ u.s. figure a good dealer price of 30% off AND THATS AROUND 1400 U.S. hhummmmmmmm : ) >it's worth it I think. I should be getting one soon. I asked christoph for a low serial number...;) You bastard! I want mine to have a lower serial number than yours!!! :) It just *sounds* better if the serial # is lower... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 23:26:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:04:48 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Which, BTW reminds me: has anyone else on the list ordered their Virus from Music Central (US)? How much do they charge for shipping, and is it possible to pay without using a VISA-card? And will the power... the power-thingy (for a lack of a more precise word :-)) work in UK? I ordered mine from Music Central and paid COD ... so that might work for you. Oh, wait, you're in the UK. I'm in the US. That might make a difference. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 23:11:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Music Central & OS Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:12:53 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Epicantic@aol.com >Honestly, it's really easy once you get the MIDI card put in and are not trying to update using your soundblaster port. :) That's like 60% failure rate. I've tried. I had no problems updating the OS with my crapblaster AWE32...:-) I only use MIDI on the AWE32 for updating my Virus...the rest is done with the Atari which does a better job anyway. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl As Koryo said: I also wouldn't mind seeing other things from Access... I hope they'll use the same kind of colors etc so everything will fit with another. Great team those crazy Access guys! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 23:28:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:26:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From monokrom@sirius.com >>For choirs you should try strong formants >"Strong formants"? Fairly constant resonances you often find in real instruments (including the voice). You can use the filters and/or the Chorus/delay to simulate them in your Virus. Thanks, monokrom, you've given me an idea. Single, static notes (from sampler for testing, later from CD-Walkman if it's worth it) as vocoder-modulator, to see what happens formant-wise... might be a way to make some interesting sounds. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 00:35:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:32:00 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: Re: Music Central & OS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla >In a message dated 3/5/99 1:52:03 PM Central Standard Time, lauger@punkass.com writes: > >>* From "lauger" >> >>>* From "Peter Steens" >>> >>>Hi everybody! >>> >>>Just wanted to know if Music Central's Virus' have got the latest OS installed, or if oyu have to do that yourself. If they don't sell 'em with 2.01, is it then 1.54? >>> >> >> >>i was told that it is sold with the latest(2.x) >> >> >><><><><>><> I don't know about jon(music central) but if ahey recieved a virus from the latest shippment it should have OS 2.xx....Updating is so somple it realy does not matter.. DM ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 23:56:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Serial Numbers Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >>>the 3690 DM price of the virus keyboard converts out to 2050$ u.s. figure a good dealer price of 30% off AND THATS AROUND 1400 U.S. hhummmmmmmm : ) >>it's worth it I think. I should be getting one soon. I asked christoph for a low serial number...;) > >You bastard! I want mine to have a lower serial number than yours!!! :) > >It just *sounds* better if the serial # is lower... As far as I know I bought the first Virus on the West Coast (of the US). I also have some sort of weird hardware problem that corrupts the patch RAM slowly. I have a feeling that these two facts are related. When I can bear to part with it, I will get it fixed, but sometimes I regret buying one so early on. Does anyone know the serial number system? Are there separate number ranges for the different markets (ie Europe, US, Japan, etc.), or are they all just consecutive? -s!mon (who's serial number is just under 300) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 01:06:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Evans, Michael [San Mateo]" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Best price for a Virus Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:02:09 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Evans, Michael [San Mateo]" Hi- I've seen some huge price differences here in the States for the Virus. So far the best price I've seen has been $1,179. Has anyone seen it for cheaper? If so, where? Thanks! Mike ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 01:18:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:14:58 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Jens Wegerhoff) >>Have you ever designed a printed circuit board ? For more knobs and switches you have to design a partly new board.... And what about the software upgrades ? Joerg has to write two softwares for the virus/virus kb. The bigger the differences, the more problems you get. I think in the virus kb is nearly the same hardware as in the table top version.And thats makes the both versions 100 percent compatible. Do you really need more knobs ?? Think about ! It´s not against you, but I know what I`m saying.<< I am well aware of what is involved, but designing and manufacturing a full keyboard enclosure is also extra work. They could just silkscreen Virus II on their current unit and put the new board in it, to bring your argument to full completion. Nobody really needs more knobs, we could just go back to the one knob and LCD way of programming, but that is burdensome. And with all the new software features Access is putting into it, it will only get more burdensome to program. Waldorf, Novation, Nord, etc., come out with different versions of their synths that require different boards, so it is not too unreasonable to want that. It would allow them to market it as a higher end unit with a higher price if they didn't compromise on their keyboad version. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 01:33:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:28:44 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com >>For choirs you should try strong formants (careful use of static filter resonance and chorus might get you there).<< OK, this has gone on long enough. To do vocal choir type sounds well, you need at least three tunable highly resonant filters. You tune them to form whatever vowel sound you want. The Virus only has two, so it will not be so great at doing this. If you have additional hardware like MAM or Doepfer triple bandpass filters, they will help a lot. A parametric EQ will help a little bit, but they don't allow enough of a Q setting. A vocoder that has a freeze function can also be used, and then tailored with additional filtering. Robert Moog wrote some articles on vocal simulation 10 to 20 years ago in Keyboard magazine, if you have access to those. Also the German Doepfer website has the online manual for the A-127 triple bandpass filter showing frequency settings for different vowel sounds. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Mar 5 23:59:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Todd Wollons" To: "Access Virus Mailing List" Subject: VIRUS KB SPECS Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:56:45 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I have a virus and would very much like to get the KB for use as a controller and filter to replace my ole D-50. Does anyone know if the keys are pressure sensitive (aftertouch), and/or how the feel of the keys are? Maybe someone tweaked with it at the show? Thanks Todd X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 02:26:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 20:21:17 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >OK, this has gone on long enough. To do vocal choir type sounds well weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net writes: >OK elhardt i must ask, what is your major malfunction????< I give a long detailed answer and this is the thanks I get? The problem is my mailbox is filled up with lot of people responding, but nobody is actually answering the guy's question. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 01:50:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 99 01:48:31 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz monokrom@sirius.com wrote : >The typical Jarre string sound was made on an Eminent organ its not. the eminent he uses is heard on the last part of equinox. it is right ,that these typical phaserstrings of jmj is a stringmachine,allthough i dont know wich one it is ,cause he uses them all ,sometimes this one ,sometimes that one... (could also be the crumar stringensemble or the roland rs 202,or the paraponic 505,or the vp 330 :=)etc............. and he feeds the analog phasers (such as electroharmonics smallstone , EMT-or rehbergphasers) with these stringsounds. regards, nico btw,i`d really like to know with wich synth he makes those fast lfo-effects,allthough i can nearly imitate them with some other synths (virus!? ;=) i`d be interrested in it.somebody told me ,that it is done by a machine wich looks like an samsonite-suitcase wich was originally not created for making music ,but for electronic knowledge and stuff(!?): i couldn`t believe it until i saw it,but it really looks like that ! i just forgot the name of it,and i never heard it,so i don`t know if it its the one wich jmj makes these "sprinkling effects" way too fast for the arpeggiatorstuff he also makes. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 03:06:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:50:15 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >btw,i`d really like to know with wich synth he makes those fast lfo-effects,allthough i can nearly imitate them with some other synths (virus!? ;=) i`d be interrested in it.somebody told me ,that it is done by a machine wich looks like an samsonite-suitcase wich was originally not created for making music ,but for electronic knowledge and stuff(!?): i couldn`t believe it until i saw it,but it really looks like that ! i just forgot the name of it,and i never heard it,so i don`t know if it its the one wich jmj makes these "sprinkling effects" Are you thinking about the early ARP stuff, or maybe the EMI synths which shipped in suitcases? I've managed to get some of those really drippy blips from my Doepfer MS404 using just the resonance of the filter self oscillating - you're talking about the long, drippy long sweeps, like the ones in Oxygene right? Don't know for sure how I'd go about doing it on the Virus, though... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 03:08:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:52:19 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 08:21 PM 3/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >* From Elhardt@aol.com >Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >>OK, this has gone on long enough. To do vocal choir type sounds well >weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net writes: >>OK elhardt i must ask, what is your major malfunction????< >I give a long detailed answer and this is the thanks I get? The problem is my mailbox is filled up with lot of people responding, but nobody is actually answering the guy's question. Ah, good point. Thanks for catching that. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 03:11:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:55:47 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Wrong. You can buy them new. Read the following for full history etc. http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/index.html Wow, I had no idea that the VCS3 was still available as a product. That's utterly amazing. Of course, I'd find it hard to rationalize spending US$4000 on one, but just the fact that they're around is pretty amazing. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 03:00:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:56:58 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >hey nico, thats the EMS aks synthi suitcase. was also a different version called the vcs3 i believe. they are little modular based synths which use a pin matrix for routing componets. really unique bizarre sounds. unfortunetly no longer made but on the used market usually for 2000-3000$ U.S. : ( other famous users over the years have been roxy music/brian eno, and pink floyd. ive been able to get these types of sounds from a waldorf pulse using its a amazing random patch generator. Wrong. You can buy them new. Read the following for full history etc. http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/index.html If you really want to know about analog(ue) stuff you should read the Analogue Heaven mailing list. There is probably more collected knowledge on analog synths in the archive of this list than anywhere else. They also have a really good FAQ. http://machines.hyperreal.org/Analogue-Heaven/ http://pages.pomona.edu/~jmaxwell/faq.html BTW there's also a band who's name escapes me at the moment which has a VCS3 on the cover of their latest CD. I have been tempted to buy the album just based on the cover, but I haven't taken that chance yet. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 03:19:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:58:11 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: The Industrial Design thread... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Hah hah! I read something like this: http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/emsprods.html And I instantly think of the recent access-list thread about the design of the VirusKB. All I can say is: Be glad we don't have any ex-EMS employees working at Access in the 'case design' department. A lot of those look like cinder blocks with knobs on them... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 03:58:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:55:03 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: The Industrial Design thread... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >Hah hah! > >I read something like this: > > http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/emsprods.html > >And I instantly think of the recent access-list thread about the design of the VirusKB. > >All I can say is: Be glad we don't have any ex-EMS employees working at Access in the 'case design' department. A lot of those look like cinder blocks with knobs on them... :) I certainly wouldn't want a new synth to look like this, but if I was going to buy a "new" VCS3, I would be happy that it still looks the same. Part of the appeal in this case is the idea that you're buying this synth designed by a bunch of very eccentric British nerds (I mean that in a positive way). If you repackaged a VCS3 in a modern case you would loose the feel. If you replaced the joystick with two wheels, or the pin-patch bay with anything, you would completely ruin the instrument. To get back on topic... The Virus and especially the Keyboard just don't look like they sound. They don't look retro enough for me to buy the argument that they are supposed to look like older analog equipment. They certainly don't look very current. I still don't understand the wood panels. This isn't a Hammond B3 module. I just wish blue LEDs were cheaper... -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 05:58:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:56:46 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > >hey nico, thats the EMS aks synthi suitcase. was also a different version called the vcs3 i believe. they are little modular based synths which use a pin matrix for routing componets. really unique bizarre sounds. unfortunetly no longer made but on the used market usually for 2000-3000$ U.S. : ( I believe this is not true. That the company still make them for about $2500. =m= ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 06:03:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:01:54 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Jay Vaughan wrote: >Are you thinking about the early ARP stuff, or maybe the EMI synths which shipped in suitcases? > >I've managed to get some of those really drippy blips from my Doepfer MS404 using just the resonance of the filter self oscillating - you're talking about the long, drippy long sweeps, like the ones in Oxygene right? > >Don't know for sure how I'd go about doing it on the Virus, though... I wonder if anyone has been able to create those sounds like JMJ's with the Nord Modular? =m= > > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 06:17:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "dbx" To: Subject: Re: Best price for a Virus Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:14:46 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "dbx" i just bought my access virus and paid 1140 they beat the lowest price i saw which was 1150 dbx -----Original Message----- From: Evans, Michael [San Mateo] To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 4:21 PM Subject: Best price for a Virus >* From "Evans, Michael [San Mateo]" > >Hi- >I've seen some huge price differences here in the States for the Virus. So far the best price I've seen has been $1,179. Has anyone seen it for cheaper? If so, where? > >Thanks! >Mike > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 12:01:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:02:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Nico Herz > >>The typical Jarre string sound was made on an Eminent organ > >its not. >the eminent he uses is heard on the last part of equinox. Are you absolutely sure? In the tour, the last part he played was only on an Eminent with a drumcomputer placed on top.And it was live, because there were some bumm notes. Plus he said in an interview that those strings came from the Eminent. Of course I could be wrong and Jarre is talking bullshit... (besides, it doesn't matter to me much) >that one... (could also be the crumar stringensemble or the roland rs 202,or the paraponic 505,or the vp 330 :=)etc............. I don't see that gear in his equipment-list though. >btw,i`d really like to know with wich synth he makes those fast lfo-effects As has been said here: it's the VCS3...just look at the China video where he stacked 6 (or was it 9?) VCS3's on top...:-) (lucky bastard!) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl sorry for the off-topic... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 01:22:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: EMS gear Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:29:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Actually, the VCS-3 and Synthi-A are still being made to the best of my knowledge. Check out the EMS home page: >http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/ >Current price for a new VCS-3: UKP 1800. A brand new Synthi-A: UKP 1600. The Synthi-AKS (a Synthi-A with built-in sequencer) is out of production... ... There's an old picture of me on that site (Zorch, the guy on the right). I called myself "Gwyo Zepix" in the 70s (in case you follow the Zorch link). The VCS3 is being sold in Germany by Ludwig Rehberg, the marketing guy from the old Putney days. The Synthi-A is not being produced because Robin Wood ran out of suitcases! EMS synths? Antedeluvian noisy cicuitry, but more than made up for by the fantastic routing system (pin matrix!) Also check out www.hinton.co.uk/ Graham Hinton was a developer for EMS (later with Research Machines and Solid State Logic). Now builds s**t hot MIDI devices at a (cough) professional price - kitted out Peter Gabriels Real World (among others) with MIDI matrices etc. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 13:30:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 13:22:09 +0100 From: Marc Kapuste To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe marc@freiton.de Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Kapuste unsubscribe marc@freiton.de ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 19:15:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 15:23:01 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: RE: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Hi list! It really amezes me how much everybody has to say about this particular topic. Personally, I couldn't care less about JMJ. Still, it is farely understandable. The Virus is a true beast if you like to imitate other synths. BUT: so far I have not had real success with imitations of acoustic instruments, organs or old stringmachines. How about you? At 12:02 6.3.1999 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From Nico Herz >> >>>The typical Jarre string sound was made on an Eminent organ >> >>its not. >>the eminent he uses is heard on the last part of equinox. > >Are you absolutely sure? >In the tour, the last part he played was only on an Eminent with a drumcomputer >placed on top.And it was live, because there were some bumm notes. Plus he said in an interview that those strings came from the Eminent. Of course I could be wrong and Jarre is talking bullshit... (besides, it doesn't matter to me much) > >>that one... (could also be the crumar stringensemble or the roland rs 202,or the paraponic 505,or the vp 330 :=)etc............. > >I don't see that gear in his equipment-list though. > >>btw,i`d really like to know with wich synth he makes those fast lfo-effects > >As has been said here: it's the VCS3...just look at the China video where he stacked 6 (or was it 9?) VCS3's on top...:-) (lucky bastard!) > >Marcel >Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl >sorry for the off-topic... > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 14:29:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 14:26:25 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: VIRUS KB SPECS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hi Todd, Tweaked it, liked it, loved it and going to buy it ! aftertouch: YES light weighted keys that feel GREAT !!!!!!! I mean REALLY GREAT ! the wheels feel GREAT as well 61 keys note on/off velocity 2 switch/control pedals Ciao, joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 16:41:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:41:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Elhardt@aol.com schrieb: >I am well aware of what is involved, but designing and manufacturing a full keyboard enclosure is also extra work. They could just silkscreen Virus II on their current unit and put the new board in it, to bring your argument to full completion. Nobody really needs more knobs, we could just go back to the one knob and LCD way of programming, but that is burdensome. And with all the new software features Access is putting into it, it will only get more burdensome to program. Waldorf, Novation, Nord, etc., come out with different versions of their synths that require different boards, so it is not too unreasonable to want that. It would allow them to market it as a higher end unit with a higher price if they didn't compromise on their keyboad version. Hi Elhardt ! OK.When you see this at this point of view,your statement is understandable.I´m sorry, when I misunderstood the last message a bit.Tommorow I will go to musikmesse and I will make my own picture of the new features. adios amigos Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 17:56:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 08:55:04 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Best price for a Virus (for the gridder from hell) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Gee, you grind them for $10.00. Guess, have a talented haggler and can walk away with an extra $10.00 and his pocket laced with pride. :-\ =m= Death of a Salesman >* From "dbx" > >i just bought my access virus and paid 1140 they beat the lowest price i saw which was 1150 > >dbx > >>* From "Evans, Michael [San Mateo]" >> >>Hi- >>I've seen some huge price differences here in the States for the Virus. So far the best price I've seen has been $1,179. Has anyone seen it for cheaper? If so, where? >> >>Thanks! >>Mike >_____________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 17:58:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 08:57:09 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: The Industrial Design thread... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Yeah, but can a Virus make sounds like the AKS/VCS3 and the like? ;-) I wish! =m= Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >Hah hah! > >I read something like this: > >http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/emsprods.html > >And I instantly think of the recent access-list thread about the design of the VirusKB. > >All I can say is: Be glad we don't have any ex-EMS employees working at Access in the 'case design' department. A lot of those look like cinder blocks with knobs on them... :) > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] >^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 18:30:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "dbx" To: Subject: Re: Best price for a Virus (for the gridder from hell) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:28:37 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "dbx" hehe, well its better then 1150, and so far is the lowest price i have seen :) dbx -----Original Message----- From: monokrom@sirius.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Best price for a Virus (for the gridder from hell) >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >Gee, you grind them for $10.00. Guess, have a talented haggler and can walk >away with an extra $10.00 and his pocket laced with pride. :-\ > >=m= > >Death of a Salesman > >>* From "dbx" >> >>i just bought my access virus and paid 1140 they beat the lowest price i saw >>which was 1150 >> >>dbx >> >>>* From "Evans, Michael [San Mateo]" >>> >>>Hi- >>>I've seen some huge price differences here in the States for the Virus. So >>>far the best price I've seen has been $1,179. Has anyone seen it for cheaper? If so, where? >>> >>>Thanks! >>>Mike >>_____________________________________________ > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 18:08:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 99 18:05:51 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote : >hey nico, thats the EMS aks synthi suitcase oh, i see... now that u said the magic word "aks",i remember .... 8>) gotta get me one of these...... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 18:08:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 99 18:05:53 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Elhardt@aol.com wrote : >I give a long detailed answer and this is the thanks I get? The problem is my >mailbox is filled up with lot of people responding, but nobody is actually answering the guy's question hi elhardt, do u know what "(OT)" means ? sort your mails by theme,once u got `em,then hit the big delete..... 8>) (if u dont like the topic....) btw,it seems u dropped in this topic later than me (and some others,who were there from the beginning of this topic..) and thats why u couldn`t know that another main question from the one who wanted to know how to create choirsounds with the virus was given earlier: the one about the vintagestringsound (wich most of the listmembers idenificate as a "stringmachine")... and finally i think u got missunderstood by the seat "this has gone long enough "..... 8>) they thought that u are angry somehow...hehe.... so just keep going on in peace,because we all love it if someone is giving detailed solutions to our questions..... regards,no war,freedom of speech, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 18:08:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: RE: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 99 18:05:55 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Marcel Engels wrote : >Are you absolutely sure? >In the tour, the last part he played was only on an Eminent with a drumcomputer >placed on top.And it was live, because there were some bumm notes. Plus he said in an interview that those strings came from the Eminent. . >(besides, it doesn't matter to me much) marcel,someone told me that the eminent is the "suitcasesynth" i was talking of,and it is monophone. thats why i dont believe that is the stringsource.... ;=) and on the equipmentlist on the records from jmj there are only the synths listed ,from whoms factory he got sponsored (he uses f.e.crumar,elka synthex,also minimoog,polymoog,memorymoog,roland vp 330,etc) and they are not listed.... i only know that from an interview with him,thats where he was asked ,why he is listing some of his equipment on his records,and wich else intruments he is using... of course I could be wrong and jarre is talking bullshit...... ;=) and i saw him live too in paris (i was there),there were 3 guestkeyboarder playing lots of these old machines (i remember one of this big,old roland modularsystems they had on stage), by supporting really live playing he could never play all those intruments alone at one time,AND doing this big copperfieldlike shows he always does. regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 19:39:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 10:37:46 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com I brought up this topic and in search for the JMJ type sound. Which has inspired me for years. You can't ignore this legend in electronic music history and his huge talent that came from his "Oxygene" and "Equinox" albums. Most of us will not ever live up to... :-\ Slowly suddenly, =m= Mara Salminen wrote: >* From Mara Salminen > >Hi list! > >It really amezes me how much everybody has to say about this particular topic. Personally, I couldn't care less about JMJ. Still, it is farely understandable. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 20:06:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 20:01:20 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >Plus he said in an interview that those strings came from the Eminent. Well guys, here's the solution: according to Peter Forrest's A-Z of Analogue Synthesizers the Solina String Ensemble was made by B.V. Eminent of Holland. You could also buy the same instrument as "ARP String Ensemble". I assume Eminent put the String part in some of their Organs. and BTW here's the Equipment list of Jarre's first CD Oxygene: ARP Synthesizer (probably the 2600) AKS Synthesizer VCS3 Synthesizer RMI Harmonic Synthesizer Farfisa Organ Eminent Mellotron Rhythmin' Computer Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 22:26:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 23:22:48 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Hey, I got nothing against JMJ. Some are inspired by his music, some are not. Hope you find the the type of sound you are looking for! At 10:37 6.3.1999 -0800, you wrote: >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >I brought up this topic and in search for the JMJ type sound. Which has inspired me for years. > >You can't ignore this legend in electronic music history and his huge talent that came from his "Oxygene" and "Equinox" albums. > >Most of us will not ever live up to... :-\ --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 22:26:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 99 22:22:29 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz monokrom@sirius.com wrote : >You can't ignore this legend in electronic music history and his huge talent that came from his "Oxygene" and "Equinox" albums. can`t be said better..... :=) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Mar 6 22:26:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 99 22:22:31 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Guido Kirsch wrote : > >Well guys, here's the solution: >according to Peter Forrest's A-Z of Analogue Synthesizers the Solina String Ensemble was made by B.V. Eminent of Holland. You could also buy the same instrument as "ARP String Ensemble". I assume Eminent put the String part in some of their Organs. and BTW here's the Equipment list of Jarre's first CD Oxygene: > >ARP Synthesizer (probably the 2600) >AKS Synthesizer >VCS3 Synthesizer >RMI Harmonic Synthesizer >Farfisa Organ >Eminent >Mellotron >Rhythmin' Computer > >Guido Kirsch >access music electronics hi guido, here`s another question: what is the last part of "equinox"made with?(i mean this fat choiry,orchestra-layer) i would really like to know,unless i allready got the solina and the "smallstone-phaser",to create those beautifulstrings with 8>) btw,what about system2.6 with this typical "ensemble-modulator"of those stringmachine+this phasersection, that the solina feeds so often;=) I DONT WANT TO COMPLAIN,but if u do so the virus might be the "uniquest" synthesizer i know upon my old days and it would sell even more,so u and christof can get even more rich as u are by now ;=) serious wish for system 2.6! regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 03:42:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 18:41:08 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com I wonder if you can go to a site and find out what synth JMJ used per part and layer from his "Oxygene," and "Equinox" albums? =m= Nico Herz wrote: >here`s another question: >what is the last part of "equinox"made with?(i mean this fat choiry,orchestra-layer) > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 12:50:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Is the Virus "Retro"? Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 12:40:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Yeah, but can a Virus make sounds like the AKS/VCS3 and the like? ;-) Yes it can - to a degree. I often try recreating some of the EMS noises (I had 2*Synthi A, 1*KS, 1*DK2, 1*Hi-Fli), and I have to admit that it's close enough to fool me. Of course some of the old sounds need more control of LFO rates (OS 2.5 should fix that!) and a spring reverb (no thanx). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 12:50:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Virus organs Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 12:43:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >BUT: so far I have not had real success with imitations of acoustic instruments, organs or old stringmachines. How about you? Virus organs are IMO very good! Use lots of pitched filter resonance, LFO1 in Env mode to control tuned filter resonance, giving you an extra "percussion" voice. etc etc... lots of little tricks here. I'm thinking of posting some more (better) sounds to Canine, with more convincing organ/Leslie sounds than my early attempt. My "acoustic" sounds are not so good (except a piano "plink" I'm pleased with). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 13:55:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 7 Mar 99 05:47:45 MST From: ecaeP To: ACC VIR Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ecaeP ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Mar 10 17:16:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:35:34 +0000 From: Glen Nelson X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Rack kit for Virus in US? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Glen Nelson I ordered mine from the Guitar Center in Concord CA, and received it about ten days later. Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >If anyone in the US has worked out the best way of getting the rack kit for their Virus, could you please drop me a note? > >I've just obtainted a new, much more ergonomic rack system for my studio, and I've decided that it'd be better to have my Virus in this rack than on top of my keyboard right now... > >Thanks in advance, > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] >^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 18:08:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 09:05:03 -0800 From: Anthony Rodriguez To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Unsubscribe Please Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Anthony Rodriguez Unsubscribe Please ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 02:09:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:05:25 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is the Virus "Retro"? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket DTM wrote: >Regarding the spring reverb, was this outboard processing or did some of the aforementioned synths have one onboard? Yes, the VCS3 and Synthi-A had/have onboard spring reverb. >Where does one get a spring reverb >nowdays? I've had the sort incuded with amplifiers and such, but is there a kit or something available? How do those dub engineers get those crazy thrashing spring reverb sounds? Good question. Of course you could try to find one second hand, but are there any modern, DSP based multi-effects units which include spring reverb? Now that would be interesting: a multi-effects unit dedicated to retro-effects. Spring reverb, analog phaser, tape echo... - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 23:13:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 12:30:39 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is the Virus "Retro"? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Help me get there Howard!!! :-) I really need to get better at creating sounds like you... =m= Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>Yeah, but can a Virus make sounds like the AKS/VCS3 and the like? ;-) > >Yes it can - to a degree. I often try recreating some of the EMS noises (I had 2*Synthi A, 1*KS, 1*DK2, 1*Hi-Fli), and I have to admit that it's close enough to fool me. Of course some of the old sounds need more control of LFO rates (OS 2.5 should fix that!) and a spring reverb (no thanx). > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:54:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:39:10 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Access Keyboard? Cc: Simon Gatrall Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:39 AM +0100 on 05.03.1999 Simon Gatrall wrote: >1. When is it going to be available? OS 2.5 should be out about this week. The Virus KB will be out during this month, I guess. >2. What does it look like? it looks like a keyboard version of the Virus. Very bold, sturdy, a bit heavy. >I know someone mentioned "lots of wood." This isn't necessarily a good thing in my book. Is it basically the same color, same knobs, same switches, or is it very different? different knobs, different switches. a bbit difficult to explain really. the switches are very falt and modern, the knobs are just straiught round, they don't have that extra ridge around them at the base. >3. Does it have the same number of outputs? yes. >4. How does the compare function work? it will be there in 2.5 so you will see this week. >5. How do the part buttons work? they always swiitch back and forth between the parts. no other function to make things easier while performing. >6. What are the pitch-bend and mod controllers like? Are they wheels? sticks? regular wheels. >7. Was there any way to compare the 24 bit DAC versus the 16 bit DAC? Does it make a significant difference, or is it just marketing fuel? I guess it's just state of the art and probably costs the same these days as the 16 Bit cost when the first Virus was made. yes, I suppose it will sound a bit different and yes I do think it's marketing fuel. >8. What is the damn thing called? Is it just "Virus KB?" That would be so lame. Actually "VIRUS kb". what would you have called it? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:54:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:39:53 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Cubase studio module settings for virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:38 AM +0100 on 05.03.1999 Todd Wollons wrote: >I'm still having problems here... Canine, you said you use this. Can you give me your settings withing the module setup? So I can compare them to mine? sorry Todd, I am not using it. So I guess I can't help you here. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:54:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:42:48 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: OT: Power Supplies and Playing Live Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 3:59 AM +0100 on 05.03.1999 Scott Abel wrote: >Has anyone had experience hooking up this much gear to a generator? I'm kinda worried about hooking all the power adaptors on to a multiboard in case it overloads the generator - would a surge suppressor or something similar work? Should the PA be on a separate circuit? How many wall warts can be plugged into one outlet via a multiboard before it all blows... I have never tried hooking it up to a generator. but rest assured that all the little PSUs don't suck up much power at all. The PA, and everything that amplifies things in major ways or light equipment, those are the things you might want to get worried about. all the synths are really modest when it comes to power consumption... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 23:01:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 13:45:29 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Rack kit for Virus in US? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan If anyone in the US has worked out the best way of getting the rack kit for their Virus, could you please drop me a note? I've just obtainted a new, much more ergonomic rack system for my studio, and I've decided that it'd be better to have my Virus in this rack than on top of my keyboard right now... Thanks in advance, j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:54:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:51:29 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: choir-strings (solina-like) (OT) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:18 PM +0100 on 05.03.1999 Marcel Engels wrote: >The typical Jarre string sound was made on an Eminent organ! which goes thru an >ANALOG phaser (don't forget that! :-)). I haven't heard one single convincing >digital phaser which does sound analog!!! So Virus...will you take the challenge? :-) I just read that Mr Moog is making a third "MOOGERFOOGER" pedal: an analog phaser. should be an intersting (yet expensive) thing... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:54:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:57:48 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus KB - nice design! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:11 PM +0100 on 05.03.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >I >wonder how many Minimoogs or Prophet 5s would have been sold if they were pink and smelled slightly of chewing-gum, instead of wood and flux and ozone? I have to feel good in an "environment", otherwise I prefer to leave. And I sometimes wonder how many women would be into electronic music if at least a few instruments would not look like the controls for a nuclear power plant or something like that...;) isn't it weird how at places like the musikmesse there are almost 99% guy checking out the instruments everywhere? I heard that Emagic is finally experiencing an increase in registration cards sent in from women. I always wonder whywomen don't seem to be into electronic music that much. I know a lot of women who play music, but only two of them do it the electronic way. weird. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:54:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 23:10:37 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: OT: Spring reverb ( wasRe: Is the Virus "Retro"?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:46 PM +0100 on 07.03.1999 DTM wrote: >* From DTM > >Regarding the spring reverb, was this outboard processing or did some of the aforementioned synths have one onboard? Where does one get a spring reverb nowdays? I've had the sort incuded with amplifiers and such, but is there a kit >or something available? How do those dub engineers get those crazy thrashing spring reverb sounds? MAM brought (is bringing?) out a spring reverb 19" module for about 400 DM. retro is still going strong...;) I believe dub engineers use delays a lot more than spring reverbs. a short delay can sound awefully realistic! check out the Waldorf Q if you can, I believe it has a preset for this type of effect somewhere. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:54:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 23:24:41 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: The Virologist's Millennium Challenge Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:00 AM +0100 on 08.03.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >Would you be willing to put some short non-Virus sounds in MP3 format on your site for anybody interested in Virus "recreation"? This would form a *limited* framework to help people explore their Virii to the full. Recreated sounds would then also be posted to your site. yes certainly. Make them a maximum of 600K and send them to me via email or contact me for my snailmail address to send a cd or cd-rom. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 23:43:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:46:12 -0800 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Is the Virus "Retro"? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Regarding the spring reverb, was this outboard processing or did some of the aforementioned synths have one onboard? Where does one get a spring reverb nowdays? I've had the sort incuded with amplifiers and such, but is there a kit or something available? How do those dub engineers get those crazy thrashing spring reverb sounds? DTM. Howard Scarr wrote: >Of course some of the old sounds need more control of LFO rates (OS 2.5 should fix that!) and a spring reverb (no thanx). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Mar 7 23:45:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:48:59 -0800 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Rack kit for Virus in US? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Got mine from Music Central: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ . DTM. Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >If anyone in the US has worked out the best way of getting the rack kit for their Virus, could you please drop me a note? > >I've just obtainted a new, much more ergonomic rack system for my studio, and I've decided that it'd be better to have my Virus in this rack than on top of my keyboard right now... > >Thanks in advance, > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] >^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 01:21:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Chuck" To: Subject: MultiMode out Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:15:02 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Chuck" List, When I'm working in Multimode and assigning presets to the various outs, (1l, 1l+r, 1r, 2l, 2l+r, 2r, 3l, 3l+r, 3r) the "2r" does not output any sound. Even in 2l+r combination, only 2l works. I have doublechecked my connections, and also went direct into each output with a set of headphones to confirm that no sound is coming from the 2r output. Could this possibly be a software problem, or probably hardware ....(connection inside came loose) : ( Thanks, Chuck. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 02:03:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Spring reverb OT Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 01:59:09 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Regarding the spring reverb, was this outboard processing or did some of the aforementioned synths have one onboard? Where does one get a spring reverb nowdays? I've had the sort incuded with amplifiers and such, but is there a kit or something available? How do those dub engineers get those crazy thrashing spring reverb sounds? The Synthi A and VCS3 have spring reverbs. MAM have just brought out a real spring reverb unit. Dub engineers probably use Fender amps for this (just a guess). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 02:03:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: The Virologist's Millennium Challenge Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 02:00:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Mono>>>Yeah, but can a Virus make sounds like the AKS/VCS3 and the like? ;-) HS>> Yes it can - to a degree. I often try recreating some of the EMS HS>> noises... Mono>Help me get there Howard!!! :-) Maybe some other people on this list would like to try this too! Kai - Would you be willing to put some short non-Virus sounds in MP3 format on your site for anybody interested in Virus "recreation"? This would form a *limited* framework to help people explore their Virii to the full. Recreated sounds would then also be posted to your site. A few suggestions: 1. Monokrom's EMS-favorites 2. Solina/ARP string machine ;-) 3. Howling wolves 4. Mellotron/Chamberlin 5. Sitar .-= THE VIROLOGIST'S MILLENNIUM CHALLENGE =-. Create the spoken words "Access Virus" on your Virus - should be possible in Multi mode with accompanying (as small as possible) standard MIDI file! Of course the most intelligible result gets put into the next OS by our friends at Access, and the winner gets a free Rob Papen Signature Set (OK Rob?) :-)) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:51:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Beautifull Virus Kb Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:59:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi List, The best looking synth of Frankfurt 1999 ! Access Virus kb !! Other hot items that I saw in Frankfurt: Synths/samplers: Emu EOS Ultra samplers with the Beat Munger !!!!! Proteus 2000 (for sound designers) Korg ElecTribe (very coooool) MAM with some cool new stuff Studio Electronics with the Omega8 (expesive but with great specs) Software: Emagic Logic 4.0 Modularing www.milprod.com With best regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) -TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 23:20:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Music Central & OS Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 00:27:12 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" It just keeps getting better doesn't it?! :-))) How am I supposed to wait for 2 months before having the money for it? Jeez it's gonna be tough... >>* From "Peter Steens" >> >>Hi everybody! >> >>Just wanted to know if Music Central's Virus' have got the latest OS installed, or if oyu have to do that yourself. If they don't sell 'em with 2.01, is it then 1.54? >> > > >i was told that it is sold with the latest(2.x) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:39:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 00:57:22 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi there! If you've got the possibility, try to check out the Jarre-video "Concerts in China" (from 1983 I think... could be hard to get your hands on). There are some nice live shots of Jarre using this "Samsonite case". It looks like a fairly simple modular rack (or as simple as those can actually get), and it's got one of these sticks, which he then twists and turns. And voila, superfast LFO-effects! Splippilippisplaapeplooowwwww.... more or less... -FutureVirus >btw,i`d really like to know with wich synth he makes those fast lfo-effects,allthough i can nearly imitate them with some other synths (virus!? ;=) i`d be interrested in it.somebody told me ,that it is done by a machine wich looks like an samsonite-suitcase wich was originally not created for making music ,but for electronic knowledge and stuff(!?): i couldn`t believe it until i saw it,but it really looks like that ! i just forgot the name of it,and i never heard it,so i don`t know if it its the one wich jmj makes these "sprinkling effects" way too fast for the arpeggiatorstuff he also makes. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 01:09:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Epicantic@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:09:09 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Rack kit for Virus in US? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Epicantic@aol.com In a message dated 3/7/99 4:20:19 PM Central Standard Time, jay@teklab.com writes: >If anyone in the US has worked out the best way of getting the rack kit for >their Virus, could you please drop me a note? > >I've just obtainted a new, much more ergonomic rack system for my studio, and I've decided that it'd be better to have my Virus in this rack than on top of my keyboard right now... > I had to contact Geoff Farr @ GSF AGENCY to get one as no one carried it. GSF AGENCY 122 STRAND SUITE ONE SANTA MONICA, CALIFORNIA 90405 USA (310) 4 5 2 - 3 8 8 6 GSFA@NETCOM.COM The wooden sides connected to the back metal piece remove, and the rack ears essentially replace it. It's a little tricky to do as you are exposing the Virus. Unfortunately, though, the Virus isn't shaped in enough of a slant or that the MIDI and AUDIO OUTs aren't recessed enough, like the XT or JP-8080 where they don't interfere with the piece of equipment above it :( I end up having to put the Virus at the very top of the rack simply because the wiring stands up like it does. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:38:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: choir-strings (Jarre-like) (OT) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 01:26:47 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Try... I think it's called "Studio Magazine" or something... It's a site that's all about Jarre and his equipment. I haven't got the link, but it should be linked from most major Jarre fan-sites such as Galaxie Jarre, Revolution and Conductor of the Masses. Cheers! -FutureVirus > >I wonder if you can go to a site and find out what synth JMJ used per part and >layer from his "Oxygene," and "Equinox" albums? > >=m= > > > >Nico Herz wrote: > >>here`s another question: >>what is the last part of "equinox"made with?(i mean this fat choiry,orchestra-layer) >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 22:34:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 8 Mar 99 03:18:49 MST From: lowlifeform To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: EMS-Stuff - Retro but whacky Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform There's been a lot of talk about EMS synths recently, and not without good reason! For those spacey, other-worldly sound-fx nothing beats the EMS stuff (VCS3, Synthi-A). To be able to recreate that sort of thing with the Virus, we need the following: - Wider oscillator range, i.e. MUCH higher (without aliasing) and MUCH lower. (Down to < 0.5Hz, up to > 17kHz). Of course not many of us can hear right up to 17kHz, but two high frequency oscillators fed into a ring-modulator can produce some impressive "difference" signals. Totally whacky! Perhaps this doesn't work with DSP stuff. (Access - prove me wrong!!) - The ability to use the oscillators (and noise) as modulators - Greater oscillator modulation range - Noise colour - for that earth-shaking rumble - Self-oscillation of the filters. This would be great! (my suggestion : Filter-Resonance 127 = Self-Oscillation) - (Ring modulator and flexible mod-matrix, of course, but they are on their way with 2.5 - yo!) - Joystick. Ha ha, I've built myself a little self-contained MIDI-Joystick (complete with "Attack-button") using a Conrad-Elektronik "C-Control" unit and a bit of external circuitry. Works like a dream. The trouble with "real" EMS stuff is - no memories. Here today - gone forever. But oh, that patch bay!! . . . zzzzzzz zzzzzzz . . . somebody wake me when 2.5 arrives . . -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 22:26:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:49:14 +0100 Subject: OT: On Pads and Strings Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" Hi There were lots of (great) opinions on JMJ strings, but I have been wanting to know how to build/have a particular pad sound that is in lots of Deep house records and in records of Herbert, KidLoops, Thievery Corporation, MoodyMan, Moorcheba (sometimes)...well can anyone help ? does anyone here know what I am talking about ? It is a soft,closed filter type of sound that creates a lot of ambience/cool vibe. Well, I know that this does not help a lot :( Thanks, Paulo Abreu peabreu@isa.utl.pt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:38:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Basic MIDI & synthesis Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 03:20:35 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi everyone! Just for those on the list with the need to know the basics of MIDI and synthesis. If words such as LFO, oscillator and er... so on baffles you (they definitely confuse me rather a lot!), then point your browsers to this site: http://www.harmony-central.com/MIDI/Doc/tutorial.html I found it to be of good use anyway. :-) -FutureVirus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 22:02:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:46:09 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: another picture virus kbd WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl http://www.studiodedijk.nl/FF2.htm "De ACCES VIRUS nu ook in keyboard uitvoering. Ziet er goed uit en klinkt uiteraard te gek." means "The access virus is now in keyboard version too. Ik looks good, and sounds great of course." ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:53:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:54:20 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Fwd: [Digital_Hell] FS:=-=Arp String Ensemble, SEM , Gentle Electric Pitch and envelope follower Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hey, speaking of the String ensemble, this just came throught on the Digital Hell mailinglist: >X-From_: owner-digitalhell@anxiety.resrocket.com Mon Mar 8 07:52:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer >Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:49:30 -0800 >From: Adam Scramstad Organization: reelsounds.com >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: analogue@hyperreal.org, digitalhell@resrocket.com Subject: [Digital_Hell] FS:=-=Arp String Ensemble, SEM , Gentle Electric Pitch and envelope follower >Sender: owner-digitalhell@resrocket.com Precedence: bulk > >Hello, > >I have an Arp Solina String Ensemble in great working condition, but well worn case. >All the sliders and switches are there, but it looks a little haggered. The keys are fine, >as it plays fine. $275 + shipping (HEAVY) or trade for a Space Echo or Echoplex or ?? > > >Oberheim SEM module for sale. Excellent condition. This is coming out of my 4-voice, so it >does NOT come w/ a power supply. I can provide a copy of the service docs. This will be like tearing >my heart out, but I need to fund another analog item ASAP. Asking $400 + shipping, sorry no trades. > > >Also I have an early '80s late 70's Gentle Electric Model 101 pitch and envelope follower. >Good clean condition. Basically it is a Pitch to CV converter. But it has a gate and trigger out, >and also a pulse wave osc out. All 1/8 ins and outs and scaled to 1V/Oct. Comes w/ original manual. >$150 + shipping or trade for ???? > >You can see a picture of the Gentle Electric at http://www.reelsounds.com/gentle_electric.jpg > >I will post pictures of the Arp Solina String Ensemble tomorrow on my website > >http://www.reelsounds.com > >Be sure to email me if you have any questions. Thanks! > >Adam > >PS. I reserve the right to change my mind on the SEM if it doesn't go quick, thanks! > >http://www.reelsounds.com > think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:44:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:07:35 +0100 From: stef To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt (vocoder) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef Howard Scarr wrote: >Somebody in the booth was complaining that speech through the Virus vocoder, despite it's 32 bands, is less understandable than his cheapo (MAM?). Anybody else agree with this? Maybe because of the MAM's voiced/unvoiced detection? stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 21:38:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 21:15:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Krupp Subject: Distortion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp Hi! My output creates distortion when I send multiple patches to it. Is this normal, or are my VIRUS getting tired? -I have no saturation or other distorting elements in theese patches! Should I just turn down the pathc-volumes (from normal volume), or should i get my Virus checked?? :o, Krupp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 22:23:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:19:16 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Distortion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:15 PM +0100 on 08.03.1999 Krupp wrote: >My output creates distortion when I send multiple patches to it. Is this normal, or are my VIRUS getting tired? -I have no saturation or other distorting elements in theese patches! Should I just turn down the pathc-volumes (from normal volume), or should i get my Virus checked?? it's usually enough to clean the filters of residual frequences that are clogging it up, causing the output to get all dull and distorted. To do this, use a loud sinewave, tune it to 40Hz, then 150Hz, 1KHz, 6KHz, 11KHz, 16KHz then 18KHz, that should usually do it.;) you could also try to reset the virus. Please refer to the FAQ on how to do this... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 22:51:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:42:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: OT: On Pads and Strings Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:49 AM +0100 on 08.03.1999 Paulo Abreu wrote: >, Moorcheba (sometimes)... which song do you mean? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 22:54:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito I don't really feel I have to give a technical explanation for this arguement.....I can just sense that the Virus is a superior synth to the JP-8000. In fact most rolands annoy me.....The sounds on the JP are just "gay" sometimes.....I prefer to use a nordlead or a virus, but I like the virus' phatness. Just thought I'd express my angst against Roland and they're "Groove-Synths" and whatnot.....they're so cheesy! ---Simon Gatrall wrote: > >* From Simon Gatrall > >>* From Christian Hofmann >> >>Hi, >>at the risk of being flamed, I still haven't decided between a Virus and >>the 8080. Of course I already know which one's the better synth ;-) > >I have only played with the JP8000. I was very disappointed with the filters. The interface is good, but the sound just isn't compelling. At >high resonance the filter sounds very digital and grating, wheras the Virus >does a pretty convincing job of being pseudo-analog. I would like to try >the vocoder on the JP8080, but I still think the Virus is a much better >value. 12 voices instead of 10, 16 part multi-timbral instead of 2. I >would like the morph feature on the JP80XX though. > >>Apart from that, I like to have some kind of pitch env, which the JP offers directly. >>As it appears, the Virus has some kind of single shot LFO mode. Can this >>actually be used to give the pitch a short kick on attack, e.g. for creating brassy patches, while still having both env's freely available for >>filter & amp? > >Yes. I've used it this way a lot. You can either use the sawtooth as a >decay envelope (ie you have a sharp attack with adjustable decay) or you >can use the triangle wave along with the "trisymetry" to get a attack/decay >env. You can also use the other LFO waveforms (Pulse, Sample&Hold, Sample&Glide, Sine). > >I'm looking forward to the 2.5 version of the OS and the modulation matrix >because there will be more ways to route the LFOs (I assume). > > >-s!mon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 23:31:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:07:53 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Spring reverb ( wasRe: Is the Virus "Retro"?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 3/8/99 2:05:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time, canine@muenster.de writes: >>* From DTM >> >>Regarding the spring reverb, was this outboard processing or did some of >the >>aforementioned synths have one onboard? Where does one get a spring reverb nowdays? I've had the sort incuded with amplifiers and such, but is there a kit >>or something available? How do those dub engineers get those crazy >thrashing >>spring reverb sounds? The Moog 905 spring reverb (Moog modular) sounds quite nice if you can find one...and interestingly enough uses a Hammond dual-spring reverb tank. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 23:20:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:17:46 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: you wanta picture? You getta di picture! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" here you all go: check out my Virus site or the official Access site to see a huge picture of the Virus (1400x800, 100K): http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus http://www.access-music.de follow the link on my site, click on the picture on the Access site. and remember not to drool over your computer keyboard, please...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Mar 8 23:22:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:18:28 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Q: Virus vs. Roland Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:52 PM +0100 on 08.03.1999 Guy Incognito wrote: >The sounds on the JP >are just "gay" sometimes..... hm, can't see why that should be a bad thing... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 00:10:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:07:28 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Krupp Subject: Re: Distortion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp At 22:19 08.03.99 +0100, you wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 9:15 PM +0100 on 08.03.1999 Krupp wrote: >>My output creates distortion when I send multiple patches to it. Is this normal, or are my VIRUS getting tired? -I have no saturation or other distorting elements in theese patches! Should I just turn down the pathc-volumes (from normal volume), or should i get my Virus checked?? > >it's usually enough to clean the filters of residual frequences that are clogging it up, causing the output to get all dull and distorted. To do this, use a loud sinewave, tune it to 40Hz, then 150Hz, 1KHz, 6KHz, 11KHz, 16KHz then 18KHz, that should usually do it.;) Hmmm... Sorry, did not quite get it. I'll have to look up on RESIDUAL freq's. "Residual" is not a word in my onboard dictionary, but I'll look it up when I gets home... Can I find The frequences You mentioned without using my lazy math-braincells? I'ts no problem though... Do the freq's have to be exact? Thanks! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 00:41:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:19:57 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: you wanta picture? You getta di picture! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Where are the part select buttons? b ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 02:50:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 02:47:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: you wanta picture? You getta di picture! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:19 AM +0100 on 09.03.1999 BHaber@aol.com wrote: >Where are the part select buttons? next to the display, you notice there are not just two, but three groups of two buttons. "VALUE", "PARAMETER" and "PART". think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 03:04:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:48:08 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Beautifull Virus Kb Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com The new Virus keyboard does indeed look bee--uu--tee-full! Does anybody know what the US price will be? Also, is the keyboard action/mechanism the same one that is used in the Waldorf Wave? (Which, incidentally is the same keyboard in the Kawai K5000s and w). Just wondering... I LOVE the wood -- it would go very well with my Moog modular! Great job Christoph and the rest of the Access crew! Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 04:54:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:36:19 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: you wanta picture? You getta di picture! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com How do you use these two buttons to select from the 16 chnls? Thanks! << next to the display, you notice there are not just two, but three groups of two buttons. "VALUE", "PARAMETER" and "PART". >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 06:21:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 21:19:55 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: EMS-Stuff - Retro but whacky Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Okay Access, let's get these request going... ;-) Oh, please... =m= lowlifeform wrote: >* From lowlifeform > >There's been a lot of talk about EMS synths recently, and not without good reason! For those spacey, other-worldly sound-fx nothing beats the EMS stuff (VCS3, Synthi-A). To be able to recreate that sort of thing with the Virus, we need the following: > >- Wider oscillator range, i.e. MUCH higher (without aliasing) >and MUCH lower. (Down to < 0.5Hz, up to > 17kHz). Of course not many of us can hear right up to 17kHz, but two high frequency oscillators fed into a ring-modulator can produce some impressive "difference" signals. Totally whacky! Perhaps this doesn't work with DSP stuff. (Access - prove me wrong!!) > >- The ability to use the oscillators (and noise) as modulators > >- Greater oscillator modulation range > >- Noise colour - for that earth-shaking rumble > >- Self-oscillation of the filters. This would be great! >(my suggestion : Filter-Resonance 127 = Self-Oscillation) > >- (Ring modulator and flexible mod-matrix, of course, but they >are on their way with 2.5 - yo!) > >- Joystick. Ha ha, I've built myself a little self-contained >MIDI-Joystick (complete with "Attack-button") using a Conrad-Elektronik "C-Control" unit and a bit of external circuitry. Works like a dream. > >The trouble with "real" EMS stuff is - no memories. Here today - gone forever. But oh, that patch bay!! > >. . . zzzzzzz zzzzzzz . . . somebody wake me when 2.5 arrives . . > >-_-_-_ > >____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 06:49:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 21:53:06 -0800 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Distortion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Find the sound (or sounds) causing the problem by sequentially turning down the resonance on each patch. DTM. Krupp wrote: >* From Krupp > >At 22:19 08.03.99 +0100, you wrote: >>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>At 9:15 PM +0100 on 08.03.1999 Krupp wrote: >>>My output creates distortion when I send multiple patches to it. Is this normal, or are my VIRUS getting tired? -I have no saturation or other distorting elements in theese patches! Should I just turn down the pathc-volumes (from normal volume), or should i get my Virus checked?? >> >>it's usually enough to clean the filters of residual frequences that are clogging it up, causing the output to get all dull and distorted. To do this, use a loud sinewave, tune it to 40Hz, then 150Hz, 1KHz, 6KHz, 11KHz, 16KHz then 18KHz, that should usually do it.;) > >Hmmm... Sorry, did not quite get it. I'll have to look up on RESIDUAL freq's. "Residual" is not a word in my onboard dictionary, but I'll look it up when I gets home... Can I find The frequences You mentioned without using my lazy math-braincells? I'ts no problem though... Do the freq's have to be exact? > >Thanks! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 16:45:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 07:42:55 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Nord Modular Vs Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Cam wrote: > >A couple of months ago I was also trying to make up my mind between the Nord Modular and the Virus. Here's what I learned: > >The main differences that I was concerned with were twofold: price and polyphony. ...and of course the fact that the Virus is a self-contained machine, and the Modular needs a PC, if you want to program new sounds. Not a Mac, not an Atari, but a PC, and not just any PC, but one running M*cr*s*ft W*nd*ws. (Spit) I object to this on religious grounds. - Ronald. (Spit, spit. Can't get the taste out of my mouth. Spitspitspitspit.) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 08:52:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Bart Van Quickelberghe" To: Subject: Re: ola from Frankfurt (vocoder) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 08:50:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Bart Van Quickelberghe" >Howard Scarr wrote: > >>Somebody in the booth was complaining that speech through the Virus vocoder, >>despite it's 32 bands, is less understandable than his cheapo (MAM?). Anybody else agree with this? I'm not an expert at all but the vocoder demo of the Nord micro-modular sounded really impressive (speech). The vocoder demo of the Virus I heard at the Messe was no speech and didn't convinced me that much too. As a reader of this list theVirus seems the synth to get but now I saw the Modular demo I'm hesitating again. So if anyone with more knowledge of the Virus/Modular could tell me the big pros and cons of the two... Thanks, Bart bquick@village.uunet.be ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 17:16:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 08:12:12 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Spring reverb ( wasRe: Is the Virus "Retro"?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:43 AM +0100 on 09.03.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >>Sinus (BTW: Why don't some German manufacturers like the word "Sine"?) > >because Sinus sounds so much nicer. (the word, not the wave, that should be the same...;) It's a lovely word, but did Access check the English *meaning*? It is not the same as the German meaning. Look up the Merriam-Webster online English dictionary at http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm and type "SINUS": : CAVITY, HOLLOW: as a : a narrow elongated tract extending from a focus of suppuration and serving for the discharge of pus b (1) : a cavity in the substance of a bone of the skull that usually communicates with the nostrils and contains air (2) : a channel for venous blood (3) : a dilatation in a bodily canal or vessel c : a cleft or indentation between adjoining lobes (as of a leaf or corolla) A perfectly good English word, but what has it got to do with the Virus? (I get it: virus -> the common cold -> blocked sinus) - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 11:07:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:01:28 +0100 Subject: Re: OT: On Pads and Strings Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" Hi >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 11:49 AM +0100 on 08.03.1999 Paulo Abreu wrote: >>, Moorcheba (sometimes)... > >which song do you mean? Now you got me....the problem is that I am really 2000 Km from home and I do not have my moorcheba albuns with me, but I will go to a record shop this afternoon and I may have the name of a few songs for you tomorow : ( Thanks, ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 11:06:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 02:02:26 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: [Semi-OT] Nord Modular Vs Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 08:50 AM 3/9/99 +0100, you wrote: >So if anyone with more knowledge of the Virus/Modular could tell me the big pros and cons of the two... A couple of months ago I was also trying to make up my mind between the Nord Modular and the Virus. Here's what I learned: The main differences that I was concerned with were twofold: price and polyphony. With the modular, there's two ways you can go: rack/keyboard, or micro. The rack/keyboard version is substantially more expensive than the Micro Modular. The differences between the two are: the micro modular has fewer knobs and controls, a 2-digit LCD display rather than a nice large one, and only one CPU rather than four. What this means is that the Micro Modular has a much smaller polyphony than the rack or keyboard; small enough in fact that if you have a patch that takes up more than 50% of the CPU's power, you end up with a monophonic synth. I was pretty taken with the Nord Modular system, and I still think it's a damn cool synth. I guess you have to decide for yourself if you are willing to shell out the cash for the rack or keyboard version, or if you would be satisfied with just the Micro Modular. I couldn't afford the keyboard, and the Micro didn't quite do it for me with the reduced polyphony, so I went with the Virus. Now that I'm getting a Virus to use as the brains and balls of my system, though, I might take another look at the MM as an add-on... Hope this helps. Cam Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 12:39:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 03:35:47 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla to major domo@access-list@teklab.com unsubscribe synthwerks@earthlink.net ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 11:39:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:36:17 +0100 (NFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: women Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >And I sometimes wonder how many women would be into electronic music if at least a few instruments would not look like the controls for a nuclear power plant or something like that...;) [...] >I always wonder why women don't seem to be into electronic music that much. Yeah, i've thought about that too, and haven't got a satisfying answer. Maybe, somebody should ask them... But there ARE women doing great music. Just recently i bought a CD of Barbara Morgenstern, she called her debut album "Vermona ET6-1" which, you guess it, is her beloved analog organ/drumcomputer. (BTW, its quite hard to get some information about this instrument) For me its just the kind of music i was looking for all the time. :-) Hagen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 12:53:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Spring reverb ( wasRe: Is the Virus "Retro"?) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:43:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I believe dub engineers use delays a lot more than spring reverbs. a short delay can sound awefully realistic! check out the Waldorf Q if you can, I believe it has a preset for this type of effect somewhere. Or DIY using the Virus delay: EffectSend - as high as you like Clock - Off Time (ms) - around 50 Feedback - around 115 Rate - around 100 Depth - about 15 (important parameter!) Shape - Sinus (BTW: Why don't some German manufacturers like the word "Sine"?) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 12:53:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Beautifull Virus Kb Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:13 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From "Rob Papen" MAM with some cool new stuff Anybody tried out their little step sequencer? Any good? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 13:09:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 04:06:46 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla * From Doug Masla to major domo@access-list@teklab.com unsubscribe synthwerks@earthlink.net ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 13:17:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:42:35 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: you wanta picture? You getta di picture! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:36 AM +0100 on 09.03.1999 BHaber@aol.com wrote: >How do you use these two buttons to select from the 16 chnls? Actually, that I don't even know yet. Gotta wait till I have time to spend with the kb... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 12:53:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Old Dogs and New Tricks Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:49:22 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Who's got short (ex)samples of the following to send to Canine (see below)? 1. EMS-wierdness (Lowlifeform? Monokrom?) 2. Solina/ARP string machine ;-) 3. Mellotron/Chamberlin and "trade mark" sounds from any other electronic instruments (*not* Moog bass or Juno strings or JP brass or...) Nitty-gritty parameters of good "recreations" could be discussed afterwards. This is IMO the whole point of the excercise (see below). If we know our Virii inside out, and learn some more tricks, we can *then* get down to making previously unheard of sounds with less trial-and-error. BTW: I'm looking forward to hearing any results of "The Virologists Millennium Challenge" (see the original mail). If any of us ever find enough time before the end of the year... >>Would you be willing to put some short non-Virus sounds in MP3 format on your site for anybody interested in Virus "recreation"? This would form a *limited* framework to help people explore their Virii to the full. >yes certainly. Make them a maximum of 600K and send them to me via email or contact me for my snailmail address to send a cd or cd-rom. Thanks! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 16:05:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:15:04 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Spring reverb ( wasRe: Is the Virus "Retro"?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:43 AM +0100 on 09.03.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >Sinus (BTW: Why don't some German manufacturers like the word "Sine"?) because Sinus sounds so much nicer. (the word, not the wave, that should be the same...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 13:30:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Compression? (Pretty OT) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:26:45 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi all! I have some questions regarding what will be my future, and very very humble, bedroom setup. OK, here goes: Let's say I've got either an MC-303 or RM1x for sequencing, and then, of course, a Virus. Now, I plug these into a tiny tiny mixer (preferably s/h), and plug the mixers main out into a NanoCompressor which is then connected to a multitrack-recorder (Fostex X-14 or some s/h gear) from where the sound is routed to some half-decent speakers. (At this point I relly ought to have the RM1x so I can store my work...) Will this work? Can I actually get a decent sound using this, or do I obviously know way too little to even be taken seriously? Any help and response would be greatly appreciated! Then on to my second question, which is really really OT, I know... With a compressor, can I then get that really tight and hard kick you often hear in psy-trance and the more commercial dance-tracks? If so, would the NanoCompressor (which is more or less the only in my price-range) do the job? And finally: About the Virus meeting in Amsterdam. It's now certain that I can't come, but if you decide to have a second meeting some time, please let me know. When I feel I have got the answers I was looking for (be they positive or negative) I will unsubscribe and stay away for some time. Then I'll probably join again when I got my Virus or some weeks before. That is, when it is certain that I'll have one. I mean, it is pretty pathetic to be on a list like this for 4-5 months without owing the damn thing! So there! See ya! -FutureVirus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 13:57:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:54:59 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: !**picNIC**! Subject: Re: EMS-Stuff - Retro but whacky Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From !**picNIC**! Hi All VirulogisticsPopulation! >* From lowlifeform ....... >- Joystick. Ha ha, I've built myself a little self-contained >MIDI-Joystick (complete with "Attack-button") using a Conrad-Elektronik "C-Control" unit and a bit of external circuitry. Works like a dream. Can u send me some Info on this Joystick? Sounds really interesting to me, how did u build it? What do I need and what exactly can I do with it? (neusenic@uni-duesseldorf.de -> private!?) Thanx for standing these OT things... Greetings ****NIC**** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 14:35:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:33:39 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Compression? (Pretty OT) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Peter Steens schrieb: > >* From "Peter Steens" > >Hi all! > >I have some questions regarding what will be my future, and very very humble, bedroom setup. >OK, here goes: >Let's say I've got either an MC-303 or RM1x for sequencing, and then, of course, a Virus. >Now, I plug these into a tiny tiny mixer (preferably s/h), and plug the mixers main out into a NanoCompressor which is then connected to a multitrack-recorder (Fostex X-14 or some s/h gear) from where the sound is routed to some half-decent speakers. >(At this point I relly ought to have the RM1x so I can store my work...) Will this work? Can I actually get a decent sound using this, or do I obviously know way too little to even be taken seriously? Any help and response would be greatly appreciated! O.K. Do you think that all this technomusic stuff is made with Protools or something like that.When you can handle with the equipment it is possible to do a nearly professional work.You can make a decent sound and if the result is O.K. for you and for others, you will be taken seriously. Sure is, that you won´t get this High-End Supersound.I think that´s clear ! >Then on to my second question, which is really really OT, I know... With a compressor, can I then get that really tight and hard kick you often hear in psy-trance and the more commercial dance-tracks? If so, would the NanoCompressor (which is more or less the only in my price-range) do the job? Yes, the nanocompressor can do this job.The nano is not as good as these big tube-copressors ,but for its price the nano is good. >And finally: About the Virus meeting in Amsterdam. It's now certain that I can't come, but if you decide to have a second meeting some time, please let me know. >When I feel I have got the answers I was looking for (be they positive or negative) I will unsubscribe and stay away for some time. Then I'll probably join again when I got my Virus or some weeks before. That is, when it is certain that I'll have one. >I mean, it is pretty pathetic to be on a list like this for 4-5 months without owing the damn thing! Good luck for your plans ! >So there! > >See ya! >-FutureVirus Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 14:54:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:51:14 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: MAM Seq(Re:Beautifull Virus Kb) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Howard Scarr schrieb: > >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>* From "Rob Papen" MAM with some cool new stuff >Anybody tried out their little step sequencer? Any good? There was no sequencer in function. Only empty boxes with some LED´s. The SQ 16 looks a bit like these tr-maschines. The SQ 16 is equipped with a DIN-24 socket to sync old vintage gear. Nice feature ! Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 15:00:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 15:01:25 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: you wanta picture? You getta di picture! X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) BHaber@aol.com schrieb: > >* From BHaber@aol.com > >How do you use these two buttons to select from the 16 chnls? > >Thanks! > Simply by pressing these buttons.You can step up and down the channels directly .You don´t have to change in CTRL or EDIT-mode. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 15:17:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:11:37 +0100 Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Nord Modular Vs Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" Hi >>So if anyone with more knowledge of the Virus/Modular could tell me the big pros and cons of the two... Of those I only have the virus but some weeks ago I compared both a little (just during one night) with a friend that has the modular. Well my opinion is that the modular goes way deeper into synthesis, its more powerfull BUT it lacks (IMO) all imediacy, improvisation, musicality of the Virus. More, I think that, by what I eared, the virus has a better sound / sound stage (for my taste, and I "only" eared a few large dozens NM presets), much better filter response, and its immediacy is much better for live/realtime jamming ( I couldn't help noticing a time gap when changing NM presets). I am biased because I love the virus, it has a sound and a spaciality/sound stage that amazes me...and it is really a case of an evolving love...I mean, I bought by mail order and at the begining I was not very shure about it, there were also some bugs and clicks-gone with OS revisions. I mean, I had other digital and analog stuff but I just learned to love it with time and after some weeks I would not trade it for anyother synth (well...only if that other synth would be a great rare synth and I would immediatly buy another Virus)...it has been almost one year with the virus now and, like many others, I do no stop to think about recomending it...let alone the great Access dedication and commitment. All in all the NM is great, I would say excelent if you are the kind of guy to stay infront of the PC screen hours experimenting to make a sound...that, I think, would be worth if the results were at a very high results/timeSpent ratio...I guess that it can be the case for experimenters and for abstract/electronic music...not for me, I do dance music, more into deephouse/techno/trance, and I really get much crazy and rewarding results with my Virus and MicrowaveXT combo.... If I'm in the abstract sound mood I can also get those on the Virus/MWxt, and others, using my beloved AKAI. I even, generaly bypass the fase of AKAI->SCSI ->( Mac sound editing) ->SCSI-> AKAI, that in my opinion renders absolutly astonishing results for abstract stuff. Especially when you use a 4pole and/or a virus vocoder to process stuff. Well I also have to tell you I hate PCs (I know that they say they will soon have the Mac version) and in general my attitude with computers its growing to a great degree of suspicion about ...productivity, I feel quite "uninspired by the thing PC/Sound editing"...thats why I use my powerbook just for sequencing ;) and even for that I am starting to wonder... All this to say that it would not be fare to just say this one is better than that one, it all depends on your taste...just do not get in the train of thought that you can only get unique results with the Nmodular...do not bite that ;) The step sequencers in the NM modular are nice though... IMHO Paulo Abreu ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 16:52:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:50:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Subject: Re: women To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Tony >On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > >>And I sometimes wonder how many women would be into electronic music if at >>least a few instruments would not look like the controls for a nuclear >>power plant or something like that...;) It's interesting how pop/rock music was such a "boys club" for so long, but that gender barrier is gone now (i.e., sheryl crow, sarah maclachlan, jewel, etc.) My favorite artists now are bands like Portishead, Hooverphonic, Dolls Head, etc. that are fronted by women, but a female programmer is still as rare as a female lead guitar player. Are there any women subscribed to this list? (If not, then I guess we're all just talking to each other, huh guys?) == Check out my web page, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 16:58:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 07:57:07 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Nord Modular Vs Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com I personally would get a Nord Modular keyboard in a heart beat. Though, having that and a Virus, Microwave XT too gives you more variety on your sound palette. BTW, when you "guys" asked such questions, you should at least give us your gear list. It may help us give you a better suggestion. But, then again, you can't go wrong having any of the above mentioned. ;-) =m= Cam wrote: >* From Cam > >At 08:50 AM 3/9/99 +0100, you wrote: >>So if anyone with more knowledge of the Virus/Modular could tell me the big pros and cons of the two... > >A couple of months ago I was also trying to make up my mind between the Nord Modular and the Virus. Here's what I learned: > >The main differences that I was concerned with were twofold: price and polyphony. With the modular, there's two ways you can go: rack/keyboard, or micro. The rack/keyboard version is substantially more expensive than the Micro Modular. The differences between the two are: the micro modular has fewer knobs and controls, a 2-digit LCD display rather than a nice large one, and only one CPU rather than four. What this means is that the Micro Modular has a much smaller polyphony than the rack or keyboard; small enough in fact that if you have a patch that takes up more than 50% of the CPU's power, you end up with a monophonic synth. > >I was pretty taken with the Nord Modular system, and I still think it's a damn cool synth. I guess you have to decide for yourself if you are willing to shell out the cash for the rack or keyboard version, or if you would be satisfied with just the Micro Modular. I couldn't afford the keyboard, and the Micro didn't quite do it for me with the reduced polyphony, so I went with the Virus. Now that I'm getting a Virus to use as the brains and balls of my system, though, I might take another look at the MM as an add-on... > >Hope this helps. > >Cam > >Visit the official Clockwork Website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 17:22:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: 9 Mar 99 09:19:14 MST From: lowlifeform To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Re: Old Dogs and New Tricks Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Shouldn't it be "New Dogs and Old Tricks" ? > >* From "Howard Scarr" > >Who's got short (ex)samples of the following to send to Canine (see below)? > >1. EMS-wierdness (Lowlifeform? Monokrom?) > Yes, certainly. I'll put some of my most spaced out, freaky, weirdest patches in a zip file and send them to K9. It will be pure Synthi-A with a bit of echo. No sequencers, although some of the patches sound like they're sequenced due to the nature of the modulation / sync. I'll *try* to get round to doing it this week if possible, as next week my Virus V2.5 will be needing my attention :-))) I've also got some boring old Mellotron samples (flute, choir, string etc.) which I can send if anyone's really interested in this sort of stuff. You're not, are you?? By the way, (O.T.) I get the most beautiful, dreamy, liquid string sounds using an old Casio CZ-101 heavily processed by a 6 pole phaser with LOADS of reverb over the top. Very "Jarre" and very "Tim Blake" (you MUST hear "Blake's New Jerusalem" and "Crystal Machine" !!!) Sea Ya . . . . . -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 17:35:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 08:33:37 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: women To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guy Incognito Check out SYSTEM 7.....They're comprised of Guitar Whiz Steve Hillage and his wife Miquette Guiraudy.....totally badass....."The Power of Seven" and "Golden Section" are terrific albums. System 7 is basically a sister group of the ORB. ---Hagen Lorenz wrote: > >* From Hagen Lorenz > >On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > >>And I sometimes wonder how many women would be into electronic music if at >>least a few instruments would not look like the controls for a nuclear >>power plant or something like that...;) >[...] >>I always wonder why women don't seem to be into electronic music that >>much. > >Yeah, i've thought about that too, and haven't got a satisfying answer. >Maybe, somebody should ask them... >But there ARE women doing great music. Just recently i bought a CD of Barbara Morgenstern, she called her debut album "Vermona ET6-1" which, you guess it, is her beloved analog organ/drumcomputer. (BTW, its quite >hard to get some information about this instrument) For me its just the >kind of music i was looking for all the time. :-) > > >Hagen > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 20:00:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Virus Keyboard, LFO, Vokoder Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 08:53:03 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Krupp wrote... >Tracking generator is allso a lot of fun, but the sample-source-LFO-stuff I >newer found a proper use for in my Mx-6! -I'd be happy for a lession, though!!! :¤] Easy :-) Set one of the LFOs to sample-and-hold. Now you have a lot of free modulation sources for the LFO. You can sample note value for a keyfollow effect similar to that in the virus. You can sample the other LFO for easy thrills. You can sample an envelope...basically it is like making the assignment in the mod matrix and using the full amount. There are a bunch of semi-fixed routings/modulation amounts in the Matrix 6 but it took me a while to appreciate how useful they are. Sample and haold is very effective for rich, full pads and also for sounds which you plan to distort. Sampling very slowly-changing factors and mapping the results to pitch can produce pseudo-melodies, also for generating 'broken' or semi-arpreggiated weirdness by taking advantage of phase irregularities. This inevitably leads to something which I believe is called 'Aleatoric' composition, which is a musical-sounding piece that is actually a programmed synth patch. With a mat-mod synth (soon to be joined by the Virus!) you can get wonderful abstract music, and I encourage anyone to get into it. A little imagination and you can produce a patch which can sustain forever without repeating itself. I got my first one by random experiment on a Matrix 6. I epxect even better from the Virus. It will even be OK for me if the patches are monophonic! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 17:58:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 08:57:04 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: women Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com My personal experience with women in the US is that they have far more complexes than women from Europe. Hell, that's just my own take on them always unsure of themselves... Women...? ;-) =m= Anyway, when are they going to start taken off their T-shirts like men do? ;-) Tony wrote: >* From Tony > >>On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >> >>>And I sometimes wonder how many women would be into electronic >music if at >>>least a few instruments would not look like the controls for a >nuclear >>>power plant or something like that...;) > >It's interesting how pop/rock music was such a "boys club" for so long, but that gender barrier is gone now (i.e., sheryl crow, sarah maclachlan, jewel, etc.) My favorite artists now are bands like Portishead, Hooverphonic, Dolls Head, etc. that are fronted by women, but a female programmer is still as rare as a female lead guitar player. Are there any women subscribed to this list? (If not, then I guess we're all just talking to each other, huh guys?) == >Check out my web page, Electronic Alternative Rock http://www.tonyphillips.com > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 18:09:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:58:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Beautifull Virus Kb X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (access-me) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (access-me) >the virus keyboard looks really nice!!! sorry christoph Thank You. Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 18:00:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: monokrom@sirius.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 08:59:08 -0800 X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Nord Modular Vs Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From monokrom@sirius.com Isn't Clavia or haven't they announced that the Nord Modular is going to have a Mac editor? =m= Ronald Pieket wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket > >Cam wrote: >> >>A couple of months ago I was also trying to make up my mind between the Nord Modular and the Virus. Here's what I learned: >> >>The main differences that I was concerned with were twofold: price and polyphony. > >...and of course the fact that the Virus is a self-contained machine, and the Modular needs a PC, if you want to program new sounds. Not a Mac, not an Atari, but a PC, and not just any PC, but one running M*cr*s*ft W*nd*ws. (Spit) > >I object to this on religious grounds. > >- Ronald. > >(Spit, spit. Can't get the taste out of my mouth. Spitspitspitspit.) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 17:10:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: (OT) OS for ROLAND S 10 hardly needed..... :=) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 99 17:07:33 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" , "cubase-beta-list" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz hi list, maybe some of u can help me.... ;=) i need the latest (or at least any) OS for the ROLAND S 10........ anyone ? please,if anyone has got it,mail it to: nolowcut@gmx.de thanx forwards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 18:20:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:14:24 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Beautifull Virus Kb X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (access-me) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (access-me) >Great job Christoph and the rest of the Access crew! Fanmail and flowers to my adress,please ! Guido Kirsch Industrial Design & Magic access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 18:54:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 18:53:45 +0100 From: Henrik Lübker X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Barbara Morgenstern Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Henrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCbker?= Hagen Lorenz wrote: >* From Hagen Lorenz > >On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > >>And I sometimes wonder how many women would be into electronic music if at least a few instruments would not look like the controls for a nuclear power plant or something like that...;) >[...] >>I always wonder why women don't seem to be into electronic music that much. > >Yeah, i've thought about that too, and haven't got a satisfying answer. Maybe, somebody should ask them... >But there ARE women doing great music. Just recently i bought a CD of Barbara Morgenstern, she called her debut album "Vermona ET6-1" which, you guess it, is her beloved analog organ/drumcomputer. (BTW, its quite hard to get some information about this instrument) For me its just the kind of music i was looking for all the time. :-) > >Hagen > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! Tell me more about that CD by Barbara Morgenstern. Sounds interesting. Henrik Lübker ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 21:58:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jeff Barthel" To: Subject: New to the list Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:59:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jeff Barthel" Hi All, I just joined the list and wanted to say hello. I haven't picked up a Virus yet - been keeping tabs on the kb version. US listees should be pleased to know, I just got off the phone with the US distributor who told me looks like an April/May release on the keyboard version with a SRP of $2200-$2300. Time to start saving those pennies.... Jeff Barthel jbarthel@mediaone.net http://people.we.mediaone.net/jbarthel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 19:19:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Old Dogs and New Tricks Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:18:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Howard Scarr" > >1. EMS-wierdness (Lowlifeform? Monokrom?) 2. Solina/ARP string machine ;-) >3. Mellotron/Chamberlin I've got XX-Large StringMachines today!!! Yup, thats the one...they are fantastic!!!!!! I also have MelloZone, which contains almost all of M400 tapes. (:-) and those sounds are all in my sampler hahaha...no drumloops, but old machines which are difficult to get) >and "trade mark" sounds from any other electronic instruments (*not* Moog bass or Juno strings or JP brass or...) Why not Moog Bass??? I haven't heard one single good MoogBass on ANY web-page or digital synth... Those Juno strings I can live without. Later! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 19:37:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Old Dogs and New Tricks Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:22:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From lowlifeform > >I've also got some boring old Mellotron samples (flute, choir, string etc.) which I can send if anyone's really interested in this sort of stuff. You're not, are you?? :-) I'm ONLY interested in this stuff... But I've got it already... >By the way, (O.T.) I get the most beautiful, dreamy, liquid string sounds using an old Casio CZ-101 heavily processed by a 6 pole phaser with LOADS of reverb over the top. Very "Jarre" and very "Tim Blake" (you MUST hear "Blake's New Jerusalem" and "Crystal Machine" !!!) Yep, they are classics... And he's performing Blake's New Jeruzalem on a forthcoming Dutch Electronic Festival... But hey, you're not interested...you're not, are you?? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 19:26:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: women Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:25:57 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From monokrom@sirius.com > >My personal experience with women in the US is that they have far more complexes than women from Europe. > >Hell, that's just my own take on them always unsure of themselves... I probably shouldn't say this...especially not here... Sorry in advance Access... But I'm not suprised US women are unsure of themsleves...have you seen them? Most of them are FAT! sorry again...I won't do it again :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 19:43:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] Nord Modular Vs Virus Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 18:38:56 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 07:42:55 +0000, Ronald Pieket wrote: >...and of course the fact that the Virus is a self-contained machine, and the Modular needs a PC, if you want to program new sounds. Not a Mac, not an Atari, but a PC, and not just any PC, but one running M*cr*s*ft W*nd*ws. (Spit) I'm still waiting for the first request for a Cubase mixermap or Logic environment for the Virus.... somebody will ask for it. Mind you, once the modulation matrix gets implemented, maybe more people will need a PC editor..... ;-) Paul (who has a Virus and a Nord Modular and likes both, for different reasons) --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music Email: softroom@btinternet.com Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Mar 9 22:52:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:40:51 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Spring reverb ( wasRe: Is the Virus "Retro"?) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:12 AM +0100 on 09.03.1999 Ronald Pieket wrote: >It's a lovely word, but did Access check the English