Is there a shortcut for skipping through patches. Like a button that lets you skip by 10 instead of having to go through each patch. EG I'm at path A5, I want to go to A110......without holding the value button down and speeding through one digit at a time is there something that will let me skip in higher multiples. By the way, my typical pattern with gear is. Buy -> instant joy (most of the time ->get a little bored and start focusing on new gear -> come back to a synth etc in time. My pattern with the virus, Buy -> Blown away -> Blown away ->blown away -> never want to be without I swear, the sounds I'm producing with this thing (mostly by accident).....criminy P>Is there a shortcut for skipping through patches. Like a button that lets you skip by 10 instead of having to go through each patch. While holding down the Single button, turn the Value knob. /MickeJust bought my Virus a couple days ago and love the thing! I have a few (ok many) questions that I hope there are answers for, here are just a couple: Is there a simple way to turn off all effects without having to scroll through the menus and disabling each one? I read that if you disable a parameter, all associated parameters will not show up in the menus, making it easier to navigate. It seems like if I disable, lets say, the delay, I still have to page through the delay reverb, delay color, etc.>I use Sounddiver, but i reinstalled my computer, and now all of a sudden Sounddiver can't load my virus anymore. you can get the individual Virus adaptation here: http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/sdwin/sdaaccess.html (for windows) http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/sdmac/sdaaccess.html (for mac) -zsIsn't it possible to assign effects send to one of the two definable knobs? For me, this turn the delay off at least. Does it stop chorus, phaser, etc. Virus 'a' here... Dan Aaron E Havill wrote: >Dear Mr. Slobotski, > >I'm not sure, but this may be a case of "normal" vs. "expert" editing modes. > >I use the Virus much like an effects unit. It's hard to say how exactly to turn off all effects, since that depends on what you're considering as an effect. Sorry for the doublespeak-- what I mean is that things like noise, suboscillation, filtration, the ring modulator, the vocoder, etc. could all be 'used' as effects. > >I wasn't aware of a "delay reverb" parameter. I also have the virus a. > >I hope this helps. On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Bill Slobotski wrote: > >>Just bought my Virus a couple days ago and love the thing! I have a few (ok many) questions that I hope there are answers for, here are just a couple: >> >>Is there a simple way to turn off all effects without having to scroll through the menus and disabling each one? >> >>I read that if you disable a parameter, all associated parameters will not show up in the menus, making it easier to navigate. It seems like if I disable, lets say, the delay, I still have to page through the delay reverb, delay color, etc. Dear Mr. Slobotski, I'm not sure, but this may be a case of "normal" vs. "expert" editing modes. I use the Virus much like an effects unit. It's hard to say how exactly to turn off all effects, since that depends on what you're considering as an effect. Sorry for the doublespeak-- what I mean is that things like noise, suboscillation, filtration, the ring modulator, the vocoder, etc. could all be 'used' as effects. I wasn't aware of a "delay reverb" parameter. I also have the virus a. I hope this helps. On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Bill Slobotski wrote: >Just bought my Virus a couple days ago and love the thing! I have a few (ok many) questions that I hope there are answers for, here are just a couple: > >Is there a simple way to turn off all effects without having to scroll through the menus and disabling each one? > >I read that if you disable a parameter, all associated parameters will not show up in the menus, making it easier to navigate. It seems like if I disable, lets say, the delay, I still have to page through the delay reverb, delay color, etc. Please keep me posted. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >At 2:37 PM +0100 on 18.03.2000 Da Kid wrote: >>what happened to the virus a OS section? are there no more OS updates for virus a? > > >There won't be an "upgrade" but there will be a minor update, which will include some features even for Virus a. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ WORD THE FUCK UP On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Richard Lohengrin wrote: >I would like to take the time to apologize to the rap dude out there, I was in quite a pro trance mindset at the time. I think it is actually pretty amazing if you can switch your style over to rap from anything else. I don't think i could do that. Though i can't stand modern day rap, old school pioneers such as nwa, eazy e, and cypress hill, (late 80's early and mid 90's) really were true innovators in an emerging form of new electronic music. Though he is a fool now, dr dre use to fuck it up on the drum machine pretty hard core. Word up? > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com >Isn't it possible to assign effects send to one of the two definable knobs? For me, this turn the delay off at least. Does it stop chorus, phaser, etc. Virus 'a' here... 'Effects Send' is only for delay you need to adjust 'Chorus Mix' (I think that's what it's called) to do chorus. the 'a' doesn't have a phaser, btw... zsI had an idea, when in multi mode, doing the last minute tweaking on patches, I've come across " sound stored , But take note there are some edited singles " but after a good round of knob twisting through various patches, I forget which ones I've changed, maybe the next update could include a small "e" (for edited) between the part # and the M (multi # ) name, ie: 4eM6 Trance A58 Sine Arp thereby identifing the edited single. it might not be feasible on patches with changing envelope parameters. just a thought, what does the rest of the list think? ~Androidaccess is a step ahead of you... if the Bank letter (A..D) is lowercase (a..d), then the patch has been changed... -zs DBDroid@aol.com wrote: > >I had an idea, when in multi mode, doing the last minute tweaking on patches, I've come across " sound stored , But take note there are some edited singles " >but after a good round of knob twisting through various patches, I forget which >ones I've changed, maybe the next update could include a small "e" (for edited) >between the part # and the M (multi # ) name, ie: 4eM6 Trance >A58 >Sine Arp >thereby identifing the edited single. it might not be feasible on patches with changing envelope parameters. just a thought, what does the rest of the list think? >~Androidooohhhh, that's why ? you guys are always on point Big Ups AndroidWell, you won't get only the fan club here, but also at a site called the A2999+1 fanclub. Here OTHER people publically states how they got ripped off by teklab:)) (look at the yamaha page on synthzone) Just a pity that everytime someone points out a fault at teklab, you get reminded what a wonderful set of lists the co has. (This I feel is purely because they were first, the lists suck in themselves because you can't get it in a propper 'digest format'). Jay, I will still answer you on the A3k V2 chip, but not here! cheers cyber7 (aka Aubrey) PS - I don't call companies helpful who takes money for services/products not delivered, I call them thiefs. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Next time you want to post something as publically as this, Jay, I am going to send a supported message with it. AND I WILL DO THIS EVERYTIME YOU RAG ME IN PUBLIC. I have in excess of 800 messages of people who complained about you, your company and paying money to you. PS2 - I have not kept up to date with the messages wrt a3kdisky because I have better things to do, but have you delivered 1.2 as promissed (Now, when was it, over NAMM? I actually feel like saying to you to fuck-off, but I will hold myself in, this time. On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:54:18 -0800, Jay Vaughan wrote: At 01:44 AM 03/19/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>In a message dated 3/17/00 6:03:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, cyber7@mighty.co.za writes: >><< http://go.to/cyber7 >> >>Just went to your site bro, you should purchase the domain name www.JayVaughanFanclub.com :) > > >Oh, he got mad at me when I told him off for flaming on one of my other teklab lists, and seems to have had a personal vendetta against TekLab and me specifically ever since ... no big deal. People can say what they want, I know I've helped *FAR* more musicians than I've actually hindered in any way, and if cyber7 can't handle that, big whoop. > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} >[NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html > ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.za Hello everyone, Here is a guitar sound for anyone to try if they are interested. Someone asked for one on the list a few weeks ago, but I can't remember who. Hope it helps. -Ben Content-Type: audio/mid; name="Nylonbc.mid" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Nylonbc.mid" Attachment converted: f2000:Nylonbc.mid (Midi/anon) (0000615F)Not bad at all - I can use that!hi list here are 8 sounds from my Virus A in SysEx format (SoundDiver's "save std MIDI file" feature doesn't work properly). I'm particularly proud of beauPad-z and radEp-z. Two sounds whose character defies "regular" Virus-y sounds. Sorry if you can't deal with SysEx ... but I think there are some converters or other apps available on the Net. -zs Attachment converted: f2000:zVirusSounds3.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (00006161)On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:54:13 -0800, Zack Steinkamp wrote: >here are 8 sounds from my Virus A in SysEx format (SoundDiver's "save std MIDI file" feature doesn't work properly). I don't suppose we could agree to post them to a website rather than send everything to the list? I really hope this doesn't get like the Nord Modular list where every bleep and squeek anyone of its members conceives turns up in my dustbin daily... Sorry to moan. I belong to a lot of lists and if every one of them started to add attachments..... I shudder to think..... Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukwith respect Paul, I disagree. I am on a number of synth lists and being a new owner of the virus I was delighted to find a list where the users regularly post their sounds. I have subscribed to the novation mailing list for over a year now and I can count the number of soundsets people have mailed on 2 hands. In my view anything which encourages people to post sounds which can be used by others is a good thing. For someone like myself who finds it very difficult to program decent sounds, it is a real benefit to find a few gems amongst other peoples efforts. In any event sys or mid files are very small and hardly take up much bandwidth and are easily deleted if unwanted. I hope more people post their sounds. Warwick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nagle" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: Re: 8 sounds >On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:54:13 -0800, Zack Steinkamp wrote: > >>here are 8 sounds from my Virus A in SysEx format (SoundDiver's "save std MIDI file" feature doesn't work properly). > >I don't suppose we could agree to post them to a website rather than send everything to the list? I really hope this doesn't get like the Nord Modular list where every bleep and squeek anyone of its members conceives turns up in my dustbin daily... > >Sorry to moan. I belong to a lot of lists and if every one of them started to add attachments..... I shudder to think..... > >Paul > >--- >Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music >email: paul@softroom.co.uk >web: www.softroom.co.uk >--- >Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukWarwick wrote: >I hope more people post their sounds. amen, brother. my 8 sounds are only 2KB zipped ... on even a lowly 14.4Kbps modem, this takes less than a second to transfer. Exchange the sounds! More of my sounds are available here: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/edsarkiss?c&.flabel=fld7&.src=bc -zsIf there's one thing that I would REALLY enjoy having on the Virus b is an Overdrive effect! Can we see this effect someday on the Virus b? Please!!!!!!!If there's one thing that I would REALLY enjoy having on the Virus b is an Overdrive effect! Can we see this effect someday on the Virus b? Please!!!!!!!I can see why Paul doesn't want attached patches on the list here. However, I doubt if the same thing is going to happen here like on the Nord Modular list. Because the motifs on this list and there in attaching patches are very different. Esoteric patches there means something to a few people there, but hardly mean anything at all here. (How they hate the term, "esoteric", when I used it there....but Gosh! I hate those noodle patches! :-) norsez On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:54:13 -0800, Zack Steinkamp wrote: >here are 8 sounds from my Virus A in SysEx format (SoundDiver's "save >std MIDI file" feature doesn't work properly). I don't suppose we could agree to post them to a website rather than send everything to the list? I really hope this doesn't get like the Nord Modular list where every bleep and squeek anyone of its members conceives turns up in my dustbin daily... Sorry to moan. I belong to a lot of lists and if every one of them started to add attachments..... I shudder to think..... Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com>...but Gosh! I hate >those noodle patches! :-) is there such a thing as a patch not created via noodling?Huh??? >is there such a thing as a patch not created via >noodling? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comNorsez Orankijanan wrote: > >Huh??? > >>is there such a thing as a patch not created via >noodling? > I *have* to noodle to create patches. noodling == having fun, without a destination in mind zsZack, You got me wrong. The noodle patches on the modular list are mostly not only created by noodling or doodling. Most results also sound like noodles. So it's a term with a specific meaning on that list. An example is creative patching (patching in random?) and naming it after what it sounds like. You can't really make good use of this kind of patch because they are not made to be played. (No note input module or anything.) When you load them, they will go off playing themselves. Doo da dii dee doo gaoo goaa goo ga gaa blop bloop blip blop. And okay let's called that patch, "First Grade Jazz band". And you get a lot of patches like this everyday. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comNorsez Orankijanan wrote: >When you load them, they will go off playing themselves. Doo da dii dee doo gaoo goaa goo ga gaa blop bloop blip blop. And okay let's called that patch, "First Grade Jazz band". And you get a lot of patches like this everyday. That sucks! I'm glad I'm not on the Nord list... So far, the patches that people have posted on this email list have been: - at worst rehashes of some of the presets, - at best (most fall into this category) inspirations for new ideas, as well as fodder for creating entire pieces. Until the quality of patches posted here becomes unbearable, I'll absolutely love receiving new Virus sounds in my mailbox. -zs ps ... try my sounds, they're cool http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/edsarkiss?c&.flabel=fld7For what it's worth, I'd prefer people used one of the Access Virus web pages for patch exchange, or even better, use http://www.samplelibrary.net/ j. At 06:07 PM 03/21/2000 -0800, you wrote: I can see why Paul doesn't want attached patches on the list here. However, I doubt if the same thing is going to happen here like on the Nord Modular list. Because the motifs on this list and there in attaching patches are very different. Esoteric patches there means something to a few people there, but hardly mean anything at all here. (How they hate the term, "esoteric", when I used it there....but Gosh! I hate those noodle patches! :-) norsez On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:54:13 -0800, Zack Steinkamp wrote: >here are 8 sounds from my Virus A in SysEx format (SoundDiver's "save >std MIDI file" feature doesn't work properly). I don't suppose we could agree to post them to a website rather than send everything to the list? I really hope this doesn't get like the Nord Modular list where every bleep and squeek anyone of its members conceives turns up in my dustbin daily... Sorry to moan. I belong to a lot of lists and if every one of them started to add attachments..... I shudder to think..... Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html Thanks for Sharing!!!! :-) Kintama >Warwick wrote: >>I hope more people post their sounds. > >amen, brother. > >my 8 sounds are only 2KB zipped ... on even a lowly 14.4Kbps modem, this takes less than a second to transfer. > >Exchange the sounds! > >More of my sounds are available here: >http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/edsarkiss?c&.flabel=fld7&.src=bc > >-zs we could post to the patchpoint site, and help it get going. Everytime there is a neat patch to share we could link to it instead of sending if it really bothers people. But like someone said they are only a couple k, (I hate when a 15k file is zipped for that matter haha) and I think that most people who copy an entire message to reply end up wasting more bandwidth than a few k of patches. :-) Not to mention, patches are more welcome in my mail box than flames that start on here, and there tends to be more tolerance for that than patches which I find odd. Just my opinion Have Fun, Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Jay Vaughan To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 7:07 PM Subject: re: 8 sounds >For what it's worth, I'd prefer people used one of the Access Virus web pages for patch exchange, or even better, use http://www.samplelibrary.net/ > >j. > >At 06:07 PM 03/21/2000 -0800, you wrote: >>I can see why Paul doesn't want attached patches on the list here. However, I doubt if the same thing is going to happen here like on the Nord Modular list. Because the motifs on this list and there in attaching patches are very different. Esoteric patches there means something to a few people there, but hardly mean anything at all here. (How they hate the term, "esoteric", when I used it there....but Gosh! I hate those noodle patches! :-) >> >>norsez >> >> >>On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:54:13 -0800, Zack Steinkamp >>wrote: >> >>>here are 8 sounds from my Virus A in SysEx format >>(SoundDiver's "save >>>std MIDI file" feature doesn't work properly). >> >>I don't suppose we could agree to post them to a website rather than >>send everything to the list? I really hope this doesn't get like the >>Nord Modular list where every bleep and squeek anyone of its members >>conceives turns up in my dustbin daily... >> >>Sorry to moan. I belong to a lot of lists and if every one of them >>started to add attachments..... I shudder to think..... >> >>Paul >> >>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} >[NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html ÊÊ Hello fellow groupians (a word ???) ÊÊ A small request I have would be to have the "Value Buttons" control the oscillator wave shape values, etc. instead of change the current patch when in wave select mode, or other knob basedÊparameter selection modes. I have lost a couple works in progress by inadvertantly pressing those versus using the wave shape select knob.ÊOr better yet a "sound edited" prompt similiar to the one on the multi's.or an option to turn prompting on or off (I know I should pay better attention or save my work more often). After using the "Value Buttons" in the edit menusÊI sometimes forget and push them for other params. Thanks, Donny On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:42:53 -0000, "Warwick" wrote: >I hope more people post their sounds. Posting isn't a problem but is the list the best place? There are other places in existence which will remain as a resource you can visit whenever you wish, or whenver you need to get stuff again (mass reposts on the Nord list are not uncommon too). Or why not have a second list for "attachments" so that any who wish it can sub to both and auto file in the same place like it was just one list. If anyone just wants Virus chat and news, they can just use this list. I'm not against posting patches - I have some banks of my own on my site - but attachments in mailing lists are a bad idea. Sometimes on the Nord list, some bright spark decides to send a zip of everything he's noodled in the last year and the more this is tolerated, the more crap will be circulated around. Far better an email saying "if you want to hear my bathtime gurgles, go to www.whatever.con" Just one click away - no? Just my thoughts, no disrespect intended. Paul ----------------------------------------------------- Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Live Performance April 22nd 2000 Jodrell Bank planetarium see http://www.neuharm.demon.co.uk for details....tried going through "official" channels, but no luck ;) thanks! UNSUB-fully, ~Shane ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com There is a parameter in the midi spec: B 83 b,Vb Effects Mode 0..1 0:Off(Bypass) 1:Active for which I can not find any access. Does anybody know what it does? -Steffen. >-----Urspr> Ÿngliche Nachricht----- >Von: CKe9644719@aol.com [SMTP:CKe9644719@aol.com] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 21. MŠrz 2000 23:39 An: access-list@teklab.com >Betreff: Re: Effects > >In einer eMail vom 20.03.00 23:04:42 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>I'm not sure, but this may be a case of "normal" vs. "expert" editing modes. >> >>I use the Virus much like an effects unit. It's hard to say how exactly to turn off all effects, since that depends on what you're considering as an effect. Sorry for the doublespeak-- what I mean is that things like noise, suboscillation, filtration, the ring modulator, the vocoder, etc. could all be 'used' as effects. > >Right, this is mainly the reason why we don't have an overall effect bypass. > >-ChristophI'm OK about people posting patches to the list. Can we wait to see if the number of patch posts gets out of hand before we decide that it shouldn't be done? People seem to be being sensible about it at the moment. I've got no idea where to start with these sysex files. Zack, couldn't you just dump them to your sequencer and export them as a MID. Simpletons like me could cope with this:) Steve Zack Steinkamp wrote: > >hi list > >here are 8 sounds from my Virus A in SysEx format (SoundDiver's "save std MIDI file" feature doesn't work properly). > >I'm particularly proud of beauPad-z and radEp-z. Two sounds whose character defies "regular" Virus-y sounds. > >Sorry if you can't deal with SysEx ... but I think there are some converters or other apps available on the Net. > >-zs > -- N-Tropic, Organic Trance-Techno music: www.Rare-Earth.co.uk/n-tropic.html>Posting isn't a problem, but is the list the best place? Why not? MIDI files are much smaller than, for instance, those "Re:re:re" e-mails full of quoted text with a comment like "Kewl, dude!" at the top (or worse, at the bottom!), so size doesn't matter here. Besides, people on this list are generally good-natured (apart from a few flame-war perpetrators, who cool down or disappear from the list fairly quickly). >Far better an email saying "if you want to hear my bathtime gurgles, go to www.whatever.con" Just one click away - no? Paul Then I would have missed out on some good patches (because I'm not so willing to visit everybody's homepage). HowardOn Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:17:36 +0100, "Howard Scarr" wrote: >>Posting isn't a problem, but is the list the best place? > >Why not? MIDI files are much smaller than, for instance, those "Re:re:re" e-mails full of quoted text with a comment like "Kewl, dude!" at the top (or worse, at the bottom!), so size doesn't matter here. It does as the scale of postings increases. >Besides, people on this list are generally good-natured (apart from a few flame-war perpetrators, who cool down or disappear from the list fairly quickly). That is true but it doesn't logically follow that somebody who is interested in the Virus is also keen to plough through every patch for it that drops into their lap unrequested. The two things *may* go together but not necessarily. >>Far better an email saying "if you want to hear my bathtime gurgles, go to www.whatever.con" Just one click away - no? Paul > >Then I would have missed out on some good patches (because I'm not so willing to visit everybody's homepage). How difficult can it be to double click on a URL to grab patches? I did so to try out yours (which are superb by the way) but had they appeared in my mailbox I would've trashed them but if there were a URL I'd mark it to explore at some point. I wonder if this argument is based on an assumption that we all have just one PC with our MIDI card, MODEM and sequencer software on it? I know my philosophy is based on "old netiquette" and this why I suggested two lists - one purely for attachments. So people can choose what they receive in their mailbox. However, as on the Nord Modular list, this is an argument I am destined to lose. The next one will be html postings... ;-( Such is life, Paul ----------------------------------------------------- Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Live Performance April 22nd 2000 Jodrell Bank planetarium see http://www.neuharm.demon.co.uk for details.Another good reason for this is sometimes itÕs tough to rotate the knob Òjust one waveÓ. ÊÊ Hello fellow groupians (a word ???) ÊÊ A small request I have would be to have the "Value Buttons" control the oscillator wave shape values, etc. instead of change the current patch when in wave select mode, or other knob basedÊparameter selection modes. I have lost a couple works in progress by inadvertantly pressing those versus using the wave shape select knob.ÊOr better yet a "sound edited" prompt similiar to the one on the multi's.or an option to turn prompting on or off (I know I should pay better attention or save my work more often). After using the "Value Buttons" in the edit menusÊI sometimes forget and push them for other params. Thanks, Donny New user, so many questions. OK, here's a simple one for all you advanced users. When I perform a single patch dump into my sequencer, how can I tell what each of the bytes are? If I remember correctly, I receive 267 bytes/patch. I thought maybe I could get the info from the "MIDI CONTROLLER Assignments" from the back of the manual, but a recent email that said parameter 83 in the midi spec is "effects Mode", and in the back of the manual, param 83 is LFO symmetry. Also, there are only 123 bytes in the manual under "MIDI CONTROLLER Assignments", which tells me that those 267 bytes are defined elsewhere. Also, what is POLY PRESSURE CONTROLLER assignments? Is that what I call aftertouch? Thanks for your info!all of the OSC parameters are available in the EDIT menu (even waveshape) -zs>OK, here's a simple one for all you advanced users. When I perform a single patch dump into my sequencer, how can I tell what each of the bytes are? sorry can't help you there ... no need to know that. >Also, what is POLY PRESSURE CONTROLLER assignments? Is that what I call aftertouch? it was originally designed as a key-by-key aftertouch signal. whoever invented it (was it e-mu?) patented it, so nobody else implemented it on their synths for $$$ reasons. So it's in the MIDI spec, and there are 127 additional controllers available because of it. -zsEnsoniq invented it, and I think only General Music has ever licensed it and put it into a keyboard (other than the ensoniq samplers). its a shame to. Poly preasure is alot of fun to play with, and so few synths recognize its signals. Tony -----Original Message----- From: zs@yahoo-inc.com [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 9:49 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MIDI dump >OK, here's a simple one for all you advanced users. When I perform a single >patch dump into my sequencer, how can I tell what each of the bytes are? sorry can't help you there ... no need to know that. >Also, what is POLY PRESSURE CONTROLLER assignments? Is that what I call aftertouch? it was originally designed as a key-by-key aftertouch signal. whoever invented it (was it e-mu?) patented it, so nobody else implemented it on their synths for $$$ reasons. So it's in the MIDI spec, and there are 127 additional controllers available because of it. -zsEnsoniq Zack Steinkamp wrote: > > >whoever invented it (was it e-mu?) patented it, so nobody else implemented it on their synths for $$$ reasons.>If I remember correctly, I receive 267 bytes/patch. I thought maybe I could get the info from the "MIDI CONTROLLER Assignments" from the back of the manual, but a recent email that said parameter 83 in the midi spec is "effects Mode", and in the back of the manual, param 83 is LFO symmetry. If you mean the following line, you may be on the wrong track: B 83 b,Vb Effects Mode 0..1 0:Off(Bypass) 1:Active The Parameters of the VIRUS are organized in three so-called pages A, B and C. Each page contains 128 parameters, addressed by numbers from 0 to 127. The line above is the spec for parameter B 83, not for the MIDI controller 83. >Also, there are only 123 bytes in the manual under "MIDI CONTROLLER Assignments", which tells me that those 267 bytes are defined elsewhere. The complete parameter spec is called V30_midi.txt and is a part of the OS 3.0 file package downloadable via access' web site at www.access-music.de. Good luck -Steffen.i don't really mind the patches' they download in a split second, for me, i guess i might eat up some space on my mailbox, but i've never really noticed any problems as a result Android Ink Blot Records booking info: top_flight_mgmt_@hotmail.com "we decide the future in the present"This Poly pressure thing HAS been implemented in my Ensoniq VFX-SD, and yes ... that's E-MU. This synth is about 10 years old. This poly pressure lets you add pressure modulation to each note independently. If you press down on any particular key within a chord, only THAT note will be affected by pressure - all others remain unaffected. The VFX-SD gives you the choise between non, channel, or key pressure. So if I understand correctly ... the Virus can receive poly pressure or what ? >Also, what is POLY PRESSURE CONTROLLER assignments? Is that what I call aftertouch? it was originally designed as a key-by-key aftertouch signal. whoever invented it (was it e-mu?) patented it, so nobody else implemented it on their synths for $$$ reasons. It seems to me that pathces take up about as much room as html formatted emails... stupid outlook ******************************** Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm k/RAD LABS-|||http://kradlabs.home.texas.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 7: Problem: Can I use Cubase with Windows 2000? -Answer: At the moment Windows does not run with Windows 2000 http://www.ricbrown.clara.net/MainF.html *****************************************************>I know my philosophy is based on "old netiquette" Paul I think that neitquette is good, but the good of uploading patches out weighs the bad of it doesn't it? Sure your good at patch design, and you don't need the basic stuff people program, but there are newbies that want to share the joys of making bathtub gurgles. I would go so far to say that it is supressive behavior on our part to say that they shouldn't post and to belittle them with calling their work merely bathtub gurgles doesn't help our community. Let them share, let them be critiqued, let them learn and grow. It's like people asking questions on the list about problems they have. Some people already know the answer, some don't, but the question is still valid the person asking. We all ask questions to learn and grow... we ALL do that... newbie or not. And the patches don't take more space than those questions... The questions... all of which many people have answers for and doesn't need to keep seeing the same questions in his mail box. Similar to the Patches... they are questions for some (Help me with this patch... what do you think? or here have this for fun and sharing)... the patches take the same space as those text based questions. They are no less important than the text based questions, and yeild just a good of results (answers) to those who post.... and as a great side benifit, we are encouraging people to be warm and sharing on the list. I think we need to question if we are surpressing creativity or not by saying no on the patches being uploaded to the list. I think if we consider the sharing of patches a waist of bandwidth, I'd go so far as to say that the questions are too. And without that we don't have a list. The very nature of the list, is for sharing, and bonding a community... at least I think... I could be wrong in other peoples eye. To contrast that, I'm still ok with people posting a link... however.... (this is proably just me I admit) I like to see the excitement and what has to be said about a patch and to see that it is attached to the message where it's so close to me how could I turn down the chance to take a peak when this person is so excited? I think it's funny that Howard doesn't go to the links but looks at them in the emails, and you only look at them if not in the emails. I don't understand the thinking behind that, it would seem from my point of view (which might not be shared by others) that Howard is not wanting to be removed from "the moment" where he's wrapped up in the Access-List (cause at times I forget to go back later and look at the links myself.) and you are not looking at the patches in your mail box because it hits the 'ol netiquette nerve. Which is your perogative as is Howards, but I think both are excuses to get what you both want... when really if we pull back from this situation... look at WHY the list is here. I think we'll all agree that wether a person spends 2 k to upload a patch, or 2k to post a link that points to it.... people are sharing and that can only foster good things for the Virus community. Just as a side note... Jay could make it so there is a limit to the number of "k" in a message. Then guys like me that have a hard time to make a point in a few words would be chopped Hahaha... Damn this message is bigger in size that patch attachments hehe. Hope I didn't offend anyone in this, that wasn't my intent and shouldn't be the focus of this. I love the community we have, the exchanges that take place, and what good intent there is behind it all, and I think it is a good idea that we take advantage of that. Have Fun, Kintama PS I don't have a spell checker.ih, i have been messing around with the vocoder of the virus for some time now and besides some funky and strange sounds i have yet to achieve a decent (typical ) vocoder sound. somehow - although i decreased the patch and vocoder volume - the vocoder always is somewhat distorted at times. has anyone had real great results with the vocoder and is willing to share them? thanks, it would be a great help, Special KWhile it's true that patches are small, I think one good reason to prefer an ftp or web archive over posting patches to the list is that an archive is persistent. Someone who just subscribed today won't know about the patches that were posted last week, but if they're at an ftp or web site they'll still be there for latecomers to check out down the line. This doesn't preclude posting both a link AND a patch, of course, and if the patches stay small I don't have any objection myself, but I do understand quite well where Paul is coming from: I've seen mailing lists where people violated the "no posting of binaries" etiquette to the point of abuse (attachments hundreds of K in size) and it gets oppressive fast. Especially on lists where digests are an option. But since Jay has already said he prefers they not be posted my feelings one way or the other are pretty much moot anyway. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Hello everyone, Has anyone else had problems doing a controller dump? Every time I try to do it, the Virus says that the dumping is done, my computer receives some data, I play it back into the Virus, and all I get is silence. If I do a single buffer dump, everything works perfectly. Is this a bug in the Virus, or some sort of problem with the sequencer? Any help greatly appreciated. -Ben. hi Steve >I've got no idea where to start with these sysex files. Zack, couldn't you just dump them to your sequencer and export them as a MID. Simpletons like me could cope with this:) my humble apologies. I would have sent .mid files, but Logic kept crashing when I tried to play the SysEx back to the Virus to make sure the files worked. SoundDiver's 'export MIDI file' didn't work either. So the only thing left was to use MIDI-OX to save the raw sysex data. Here's what you can do with the .syx files: 1) Convert them to MIDI. http://www.frisbee.net.au/~dpeters/syx2mid/ 2) Get MIDI-OX (really good software) http://www.midiox.com I'll try to sort thru my computer problems and put together a collection of MIDI files. When I succeed, I'll send a *URL* to the list so you can find them. -zsheh heh jesper! your computer's clock is set for 1990! -zs >Jesper!Hope you guys don't mind a shameless plug, since people have been asking about how to handle sysex files. My small freeware RelayKB will do sending and saving sysex files besides many other things. Download at http://www.geocities.com/norsez/mysoftwares.html norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comI am busy with a kick-arse set for a club myself and trev is playing in -cyber7-vs-monophobe-vs-) and using the sound-set I downloaded for my Waldorf PULSE (From who else, but Rob Papen :)) I decided to put the most beautifull sounds ever to be made on the PULSE (P.29) through the VIRUS-b. To my horror I found that the original PURE sound now has distortion in it. The only way I could rectify it was to turn Osc1 WAY down on the PULSE. Now my question is this. I always have to boost the PULSE through my desk much more than any of the other instruments. (Using A Behringer Eurorack MX2642) Why is the sound clipping on the input of the VIRUS-b allthough the sound of the instrument used needs to be boosted? Thanks for your time cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - To add to my horror, I then took the output and plugged it into the input of my MU100r - and guess what - KRISTAL It sounded like it was made for sounding like this... (Slight echo and a bit of reverb - phew!) ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zaI can realy see what Rob meant by saying that he does not like attatchments... This one crashes my machine out the moment I try to download it... BAD STUFF, MAN! Well, back to writing music... cyber7 (Aubrey) - 7 April 00 - cyber7-vs-monophobe - Getaphix - Long Street - Cape Town - Live un-organic-psy-trance On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:16:25 -0000, "Cranes Music" wrote: >Hello everyone, >Here is a guitar sound for anyone to try if they are interested. Someone asked for one on the list a few weeks ago, but I can't remember who. Hope it helps. > >-Ben ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.za>Why is the sound clipping on the input of the VIRUS-b allthough the sound of the instrument used needs to be boosted? Could be you have set EDIT / INPUT GLOBAL / Boost much too high.Aubrey Kloppers wrote: > >Now my question is this. I always have to boost the PULSE through my desk much more than any of the other instruments. (Using A Behringer Eurorack MX2642) Why is the sound clipping on the input of the VIRUS-b allthough the sound of the instrument used needs to be boosted? sorry if this is the obvious answer, but is the 'input boost' setting in the Virus greater than zero? =zsAt 07:19 PM 03/22/2000 +0000, you wrote: But since Jay has already said he prefers they not be posted my feelings one way or the other are pretty much moot anyway. ______________________________________________________ Well, I'm not veto'ing it, I'm just casting my vote as a list user. Guys, don't forget - I'm also a user of this stuff too! We've already had to solve this patch-attachment problem in the past here at TekLab, which is why I set up www.samplelibrary.net in the first place. If you guys want to get an avid patch exchange forum going, then SLN is exactly the tool for the job - it's *user* maintained. If you haven't had a chance to check it out yet, please do so: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ Geared mostly towards the A-series samplers, but as you can see we've easily added other synth architecture file formats as well... And not only that, but you get to upload MP3's of your stuff to demo the patch, set up your artist bio's with contact information, etc. Why not just use that? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html As a new Virus user whats the best way to load the sounds? I'm running a Mac 9600 with Digial Performer. LB440You could use a sysex program for the Mac (Sysex Universal Midi Librarian) or Cubase. ;-) I have not used DP, but if it's just like any other seq program (which it is) then all you have to do is import the midi file onto a track and set up the Virus to receive the data and press start. I have the SUML if you want it. LB440@aol.com wrote: >As a new Virus user whats the best way to load the sounds? I'm running a Mac 9600 with Digial Performer. >LB440i love it when people post patches to the list .... ... it gives you a feeling that you had to be there and you had to read the mail to get the patch .... it sets a marker in history " .... did you get that fresh patch last month ?" .... new comers to the list and people who unsubbed missed out .... it keeps the list alive ... it's a treat to get a dope ass patch posted to the list and it sometimes justifies the endless turd you have to read. archiving / ftp sites are cool too ... but more anal. b.rock on b... >it's a treat to get a dope ass patch posted to the list and it sometimes justifies the endless turd you have to read. > >archiving / ftp sites are cool too ... but more anal.I'll try... anybody out there? let me off!!! I'm going on vacation for a week, and I can't have all my other email bounced because ACCESS LIST mail has exceeded my storage quota!! thank you :) ~Shane >...tried going through "official" channels, but no luck ;) > >thanks! > >UNSUB-fully, > >~Shane Ha Ha Ha! you'll be lucky mate! I've been trying to get off this list for about 3 months now to no avail. Jay even manually unsubscribed me the other day but I'm still getting all the posts. Annoyingly I am not able to post to the list myself and therefore can not rant in public about this situation. Would you care to forward this message to the list for me? I wonder how many other people are in this limbo. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Send mail to access-list-unsubscribe@teklab.com to get unsubscribed ... j. At 10:31 PM 03/22/2000 -0800, you wrote: I'll try... anybody out there? let me off!!! I'm going on vacation for a week, and I can't have all my other email bounced because ACCESS LIST mail has exceeded my storage quota!! thank you :) ~Shane >...tried going through "official" channels, but no luck ;) > >thanks! > >UNSUB-fully, > >~Shane Ha Ha Ha! you'll be lucky mate! I've been trying to get off this list for about 3 months now to no avail. Jay even manually unsubscribed me the other day but I'm still getting all the posts. Annoyingly I am not able to post to the list myself and therefore can not rant in public about this situation. Would you care to forward this message to the list for me? I wonder how many other people are in this limbo. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html Anybody having a problem loading the new OS 3.0-b with Cakewalk? I've tried 2 versions of Cakewalk (on a PC running Win 95) and both of them didn't work. The Virus would read "Receiving ....... 0 63" and wait for more data, but Cakewalk had nothing more to give. After a couple hours of trying nearly EVERY setting on Cakewalk (except of course the one that would make it work) I downloaded a shareware of a sequencer called JAZZ++, and it worked the first time. There is beauty in simplicity.In some cases (more often than note), the vocoder volume seems to jump exponentially as you increase the note count. With careful tweaking though, you can get great sound out of the vocoder. I get good results using a single osc, but that's not a rule... Would there be any way to add some sort of dynamic gain control for the vocoder? Rick >> >>i have been messing around with the vocoder of the virus for some time now >>and besides some funky and strange sounds i have yet to achieve a decent (typical ) vocoder sound. somehow - although i decreased the patch and vocoder volume - the vocoder always is somewhat distorted at times. has anyone had real great results with the vocoder and is willing to share >them? >> > >Have you tried to lower the input level to avoid distortion? > >-ChristophSorry it crashed your machine Aubrey, but it's not like I designed it to do that on purpose! Are you using a Virus A? This sound was designed on a 'b' . My apologies to anyone else who experienced similar unpleasantness due to my neglecting to mention this 'small' detail. -Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Aubrey Kloppers To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 10:23 PM Subject: re: guitar sound (Now binaries) >I can realy see what Rob meant by saying that he does not like attatchments... This one crashes my machine out the moment I try to download it... BAD STUFF, MAN! Well, back to writing music... > >cyber7 (Aubrey) Hello everyone, Don't worry, I haven't attached a file to this. Just wondering if anyone is interested in a few more sounds for the Virus b v.3.0? The sounds I have to offer are :- 1) My303 2 2) TAMBOÊ - (realistic tambourine) 3) FretlisMÊÊÊ Monophonic fretless bass emulation 4) FretlisPÊÊÊÊ Polyphonic 5) Theremin 6) BellyÊÊÊÊ If you want me to send you these sounds, please let me know, and I will try to e-mail them directly to you. If I have completely under-estimated the demand, then there might be problems, but I'll do my best. -Ben. ÊÊÊ hi Ben could you email me a .zip file of the sounds and I'll put them on the web? or you could use Jay's www.samplelibrary.net to post them too... might save you some work if a lot of people want to hear your stuff! -zs >Cranes Music wrote: > >Hello everyone, >Don't worry, I haven't attached a file to this. Just wondering if anyone is interested in a few more sounds for the Virus b v.3.0? The sounds I have to offer are :- > >1) My303 2 >2) TAMBO - (realistic tambourine) >3) FretlisM Monophonic fretless bass emulation 4) FretlisP Polyphonic >5) Theremin >6) Belly > >If you want me to send you these sounds, please let me know, and I will try to e-mail them directly to you. If I have completely under-estimated the demand, then there might be problems, but I'll do my best. > >-Ben. Hey Kiddies. The first phase of the virus list remix project has been completed. Frederic Harster has remixed my song, Jehannum, and the new version is now available at http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/95/vectors_united.html It's a rock-solid D&B tune, and worth checking out. The next remix will be done by Justin, and I will let everyone know when that one becomes available. Cam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=Why don't you just post them to the list!!! .mid files are tiny... most people's emails take up more space. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cranes Music" To: Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: more sounds anyone? Hello everyone, Don't worry, I haven't attached a file to this. Just wondering if anyone is interested in a few more sounds for the Virus b v.3.0? The sounds I have to offer are :- 1) My303 2 2) TAMBO - (realistic tambourine) 3) FretlisM Monophonic fretless bass emulation 4) FretlisP Polyphonic 5) Theremin 6) Belly If you want me to send you these sounds, please let me know, and I will try to e-mail them directly to you. If I have completely under-estimated the demand, then there might be problems, but I'll do my best. -Ben.Hello Ben I was impressed with your Nylon sound, great attention to detail. >1) My303 2 >2) TAMBO - (realistic tambourine) >3) FretlisM Monophonic fretless bass emulation 4) FretlisP Polyphonic >5) Theremin >6) Belly Please send to hscarr@csi.com BTW: My sounds are available from access-music.de (look for HS88.zip) in the user-sounds page. Thanks!I just got my virus in the mail a couple of days ago. I am trying to use the vocoder for vocals. I plug the mic in the IN-R port in the back and set my input to this. Then i go into my voceder and set it to IN-R. I can hear my voice, but i recive no effects when i tweak knobs. When i puit it on osc or noize, i hear nothing. Noize sometimes i will hear static. Is there another way of doing this? Do i have everything set up right? i use the virus with cubase vst/24. I am aiming for those 80's robotic voices. Thnaks Jon, Tx. US>I am aiming for those 80's robotic voices. Thnaks Jon, Tx. US There's a patch called "Planetary" in my HS88 sounds (see www.access-music.de) which should do the trick. Also, you should send the mic through a preamp.Please send to : kjellemy@online.no thanks alot!! Jon k.hey cam.... how can i participate in ur remix session ? dl the mp3 file from mp3.com or r there any samplez given away for it ? cheerz t@nk3 ----- Original Message ----- From: Cam To: Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: Remix Project Update >Hey Kiddies. The first phase of the virus list remix project has been completed. Frederic Harster has remixed my song, Jehannum, and the new version is now available at > >http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/95/vectors_united.html > >It's a rock-solid D&B tune, and worth checking out. The next remix will be >done by Justin, and I will let everyone know when that one becomes available. > >Cam > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to >=:-|= > I couldn't send my sounds to :- Warwick, Jesper, Oliver, Joeri or eSPARK, because you didn't mention your e-mail addresses. Could you all send me the relevant info, and I'll post you the sounds, Cheers, -Ben Ohh sorry, Here you go: geneticlight@it.dk Thanks, Jesper! (eSpark) Cranes Music skriver: I couldn't send my sounds to :-ÊWarwick, Jesper, Oliver, Joeri or eSPARK, because you didn't mention your e-mail addresses. Could you all send me the relevant info, and I'll post you the sounds,ÊCheers,Ê-Ben -- http://www.im-online.dk http://www.musikskolen.dk http://www.geneticlight.dk hi jon, you need a different input for the vocoder and the external input. for example: select a pad (internal sound via Aux buses) as the carrier signal (adjusted in the Vocoder Mode) and your voice as the modulator signal (adjusted in the Input Select page). now everytime you speak something into the mic your voice will be vocoded with the pad sound. (choose on of the VOC patches like B100 VOC osc.) good luck, Special KSorry to bother you all. When is the WMC? santa mariahow much did u get your virus for?and where?i traded my mpc2000 for the virus plus a little cashfirst of all thanks for the help with the vocoder problem, all fixed. Now i have antoher one. I am using cubase vst/24 for my recording, just switched over from sonic foundry, so i am a little new at the cubase side of things. I am trying to record midi from my virus and when i record a track for high hats, i try to overdub it or make a new track for the bass drums. Heres the problem, everytime i switch the VA sound in my virus, the track for the high hats turns into whatever patch i am programming in the virus. So, how do i keep the high hats track and then get the bass drums and so on with out it switching. Thanks. Jyou need to use MULTI mode or MULTI-SINGLE mode for that. Here's the deal ... The virus can play 16 different instruments at once. So in MULTI mode, you get 16 slots (a.k.a. parts) to set which patch plays in each slot. MIDI has 16 channels, which correspond to the the 16 slots where you can have a patch. So do this: 1) press the MULTI and SINGLE buttons on the virus to put it in MULTI-SINGLE mode 2) you will be on part 1, so set your hi-hat patch there 3) press the Part (virus b) or Parameter (virus a) button + to go to part 2 4) set the bass drum patch on part 2 5) yadda yadda, set other sounds if you like So now in cubase, when you select track 1, you will hear (and record) the hi-hat, and if you select track 2, you will get the bass drum. Read the manual in the section that describes MULTI mode for a more in-depth description. -zs Junksie@aol.com wrote: > >first of all thanks for the help with the vocoder problem, all fixed. Now i have antoher one. I am using cubase vst/24 for my recording, just switched over from sonic foundry, so i am a little new at the cubase side of things. I am trying to record midi from my virus and when i record a track for high hats, i try to overdub it or make a new track for the bass drums. Heres the problem, everytime i switch the VA sound in my virus, the track for the high hats turns into whatever patch i am programming in the virus. So, how do i keep the high hats track and then get the bass drums and so on with out it switching. Thanks. J -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================--- mary wright wrote: > >Sorry to bother you all. When is the WMC? Hours from now. March 25-29 I am so excited, anyone know of any performers that i should not miss. I would hate to think there is someone who uses a VIRUS and will perform,...and i might miss it. Thank you Christopher Ubaldo Borgia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comAt 01:18 PM 03/24/2000 +0000, you wrote: I couldn't send my sounds to :- Warwick, Jesper, Oliver, Joeri or eSPARK, because you didn't mention your e-mail addresses. Could you all send me the relevant info, and I'll post you the sounds, Cheers, -Ben Send them to me too (jay@teklab.com) Ben, and I'll put them in Samplelibrary for others to download too... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html Why did Access use different knobs than the ones that are on the Virus a?How can I till if my Virus b has the lastest OS? Mine says 3.0 Is the a 3.0r?How can I till if my Virus b has the latest OS? Mine says 3.0 Is the a 3.0r?I paid around $1300 for it at a store in Conneticut called Caruso Music. Special Kyou need to put the Virus into Multi Single Mode for sequencing so you can use 16 Midi channels at once (watch out for polyphony though) in Cubase you can configure the librarian that comes with it - i think it is called DMaker or something (i believe you can find a driver for the virus on the access-music.de site). the other thing is you need to choose different Midi Channels for the different instruments in the Virus otherwise you will switch the sound!I understand the multi single mode, but when i make a drum loop, I put the hi hats 1, then when i switch to 2 for the bass drums i Hear the bass drums and the hi hats on the pattern i made for the high hats. Is there any way to stop the bass drum from playing on the same notes as the HH? I am just trying to make a drum sequence. JMake sure PART TWO is set to MIDI CHANNEL 2, etc. etc. It sound like you definitely have the same MIDI channel for both parts (MIDI channel selection for the 16 different parts is available in the Multi Edit menu). Also, make sure you have also assigned the appropriate MIDI channel for each part in Cubase. -----Original Message----- From: Junksie@aol.com [SMTP:Junksie@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 7:39 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MIDI for CUBASE I understand the multi single mode, but when i make a drum loop, I put the hi hats 1, then when i switch to 2 for the bass drums i Hear the bass drums and the hi hats on the pattern i made for the high hats. Is there any way to stop the bass drum from playing on the same notes as the HH? I am just trying to make a drum sequence. JIn a message dated 3/24/00 7:35:58 PM Central Standard Time, monokrom@sirius.com writes: >How can I till if my Virus b has the lastest OS? > >Mine says 3.0 > >Is the a 3.0r? > You could go to the Virus page and download the OS, unzip it, and try loading the file. If it is actually a newer version.....well, then, there you go !!! That is....unless you have a proper MIDI port to send messages from your computer to any synth needing an update. Again, if you're using your SoundBlaster Port to send MIDI messages, it will more than likely fail all transmits. There are SO many MIDI numerics being fired that the SoundBlaster CANNOT keep up with it. SoundBlaster is good for pretty much one thing...maneuvering an icon about with a joystick while playing a computer game. Very simple process. Updating a synth OS is a bit more complicated. If you've been successful at it, though, you're simply lucky. I never was, so had to install a MIDI port ( in / out ) which is now used only for my Nord Modular. Eventually, migrated to an Opcode Studio 128X unit. mikeTry www.studio201.com/cwutheres one but i dont know where....sorryshould try logic audio - program almost made me quit playing keyboards and take up kazoo -----Original Message----- From: FibrOptic7@aol.com [mailto:FibrOptic7@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 9:38 PM To: FibrOptic7@aol.com Subject: CUBASE support mail list ???? Hi, Knew of a Steinberg Cubase VST ( something or another ) type of mailing list for Cubase Users, and had hoped anyone could direct me to sub somehow. As you know....Cubase = learning curve = many, many features = insanity. Thanks, Mike>should try logic audio - program almost made me quit playing keyboards and I lasted 3 days on logic... then right back to cubase... :-( wish I coulda toughed it out with logic.In a message dated 3/24/00 10:46:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, FibrOptic7@aol.com writes: << SoundBlaster is good for pretty much one thing...maneuvering an icon about with a joystick while playing a computer game. Very simple process. Updating a synth OS is a bit more complicated. >> And in the eternal tennis match that is "list mail' I launch the ball back over the net and say that I think the SBLives are the best value cards out there period. Absolutely great for most audio implementations, soundfont integrations a treat, environmental dynamics works swimingly...and upgraded many synth and sampler OS through it's Midi ports with little or no problems. There you go.Has anyone here used Logic? Do you like it better than Cubase? They have the Gold edition at my local reseller, should I just get the Platinum? Anyone here switch from hardware sequencing to software sequencing and feel it was the right move? Thanks, Markthis isnt the list to be writing this kinda stuff. butt.. hardware sequencers are out of business as far as i am concerned . a giant graphical interface manuevered by a maouse and key commands is where its at.dont hesitate... email me back privately...do u use a mac or pc?At 22:38 3/24/00 -0500, you wrote: Hi, Knew of a Steinberg Cubase VST ( something or another ) type of mailing list for Cubase Users, and had hoped anyone could direct me to sub somehow. As you know....Cubase = learning curve = many, many features = insanity. Thanks, Mike Try the Cubase newsgroup (alt,steinberg.cubase).... There's a lot of users there.... Byebye, Erik. _____________________________________________________ Visit my KORG Prophecy Solo Synthesizer Information at http://korgprophecy.musicpage.com ---- "Run like Hell from Glowing Man...!" (Old QUAKIAN saying) ---- chrono@xs4all.nl Yea, Daniel here. I did it about two weeks ago through the BizRate-Zzounds method I posted. Obviously haven't seen the check yet. However, it really doesn't hurt to try. I'm happy with the Zzounds price regardless. But what really cheezes me is I ordered the Virus a few days ago and it didn't come this past Friday, now I have to wait through the entire weekend and through work on Monday. This is PAINFUL! Ciao, Daniel Catron "t@nk3" wrote: >???? > >>well the bizrate thing is kinda sketchy.i think.. you pay full price on your item then bizrate cuts uuu a check up to three months later.???? > >does that mean i get my rebate 3 months later ??? that soundz wierd....any1 made experiences with it ?? > >Daniel Catron ???? > >>i am shopping to take the plunge right now too.... > >so ur trying it ? > >cheerz >t@nk3try a search on www.onelist.com FibrOptic7@aol.com wrote: >Hi, > >Knew of a Steinberg Cubase VST ( something or another ) type of mailing list for Cubase Users, and had hoped anyone could direct me to sub somehow. > >As you know....Cubase = learning curve = many, many features = insanity. > >Thanks, > >Mikehttp://www.onelist.com/group/CubaseVST http://www.onelist.com/group/CubaseUSAhi fellows ; ) some1 posted how to get the virus b via a website (cheaper then anywhere else)....could this person plz post it again cause my comp crashed and i lost all my mails.... thanx a lot ; ) cheerz t@nk3Mac or PC? Mark Holloway wrote: >Has anyone here used Logic? Do you like it better than Cubase? > >They have the Gold edition at my local reseller, should I just get the Platinum? Anyone here switch from hardware sequencing to software sequencing and feel it was the right move? > >Thanks, >Marknovamusik.com $1249 "t@nk3" wrote: >hi fellows ; ) > >some1 posted how to get the virus b via a website (cheaper then anywhere else)....could this person plz post it again cause my comp crashed and i lost all my mails.... > >thanx a lot ; ) > >cheerz >t@nk3Logic requires a steeper learning curve and has better effects, better audio editing... Get Platinum. Trial and error will help you find your personal solution to whether or not hardware or software sequencing works for you. Mark Holloway wrote: >Has anyone here used Logic? Do you like it better than Cubase? > >They have the Gold edition at my local reseller, should I just get the Platinum? Anyone here switch from hardware sequencing to software sequencing and feel it was the right move? > >Thanks, >MarkI'll second that motion. My SBLive Platinum w/Live Drive didn't give my any problems when updating my Virus' OS. While there is a little noise in the equation it's nowhere near as noticable as the older SB's. Also makes a great overall sound card. How many other "Pro" or "Semi-Pro" soundcards out there are also supported in games and other apps beside music production? And it is a great value for the cash. I think most musicians give SB's the bad rap because of the older, pre-Live cards. Then again, maybe the MIDI timing isn't as tight with software sequencers if that's how you do your composing. Doesn't matter to me. I use hardware sequencers like the RM1x. Much more tight timing. Just my $.02.; --wasted On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:20:45 Phlanno wrote: >In a message dated 3/24/00 10:46:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, FibrOptic7@aol.com writes: > ><< SoundBlaster is good for pretty much one thing...maneuvering an icon about >with a joystick while playing a computer game. Very simple process. Updating a synth OS is a bit more complicated. >> > >And in the eternal tennis match that is "list mail' I launch the ball back over the net and say that I think the SBLives are the best value cards out there period. >Absolutely great for most audio implementations, soundfont integrations a treat, environmental dynamics works swimingly...and upgraded many synth and sampler OS through it's Midi ports with little or no problems. > >There you go. --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.zzounds.com 1229http://www.eurosynthusa.com/ Virus B - 1200 USD Virus KB - 1550 USDthere is something called Club cubase. they bring out a monthly or so newsletter where they discuss cool features in Cubase and they also organize meetings of Cubase users in different cities. i think you can find information on that on the Steinberg website (steinberg.us.com). i have found links on that website for free plug-ins etc. also. Special K"...some1 posted how to get the virus b via a website (cheaper then anywhere else)....could this person plz post it again..." See below: ----- Original Message ----- From: "DTM" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 3:22 PM Subject: Re: cheap virus b? >Short of finding a used Virus b (yea right), here's the next best deal: > >(1) Go to http://www.bizrate.com/ and sign up for an account. Read all directions twice. >(2) Those with BizRate accounts get a 10% discount at Zzounds.com (3) Enter Zzounds through BizRate site, use your BizRate e-mail account, and buy your Virus b. > >Zzound's price for Virus b is $1239. The rebate is $123.90 (minus $3 for BizRate handling) gives the net price for a Virus b at $1118.10. There is no shipping charge currently and no taxes. > >Don't work for either company, but you did ask. This is what I just did a few days ago. Haven't gotten the 'b' yet. > >Ciao, >Daniel Catron > >luxx wrote: > >>anyone know where i can get a cheap virus b? > have you assigned the same MIDI channel to both parts?i have used Cubase for about 3 years and i can say that it is a pretty cool program. but the 24 bit version has some serious bugs in it. i ended up switching to Digital Performer and it is amazing! the midi timing with their new Midi Time Stamping technology (only works with Midi Timepiece AV USB) is like night and day to Cubase. also the ability to transfer sessions to Pro Tools is a nice feature. the best way is to find a friend who has either program and mess with it and see if it fits your working habits! i know though that Logic has a pretty steep learning curve! Special Kwell the bizrate thing is kinda sketchy.i think.. you pay full price on your item then bizrate cuts uuu a check up to three months later.???? anyone have any experience. i am shopping to take the plunge right now too....???? >well the bizrate thing is kinda sketchy.i think.. you pay full price on your item then bizrate cuts uuu a check up to three months later.???? does that mean i get my rebate 3 months later ??? that soundz wierd....any1 made experiences with it ?? Daniel Catron ???? >i am shopping to take the plunge right now too.... so ur trying it ? cheerz t@nk3Is it possible to get a set of "old" knobs for the Virus b ? >'Cause we liked them :-) I liked the "a-knobs" much more :-))) Gruss, RalfThe buttons are also different ;-) Is it possible to get a set of "new" knobs for the virus a ? ;-) I want to tune up my old Virus a to the new design. Its like a "Rieger Testarossa Tuning Kit" for a VW Golf 2 ! Stay fresh jens > >Is it possible to get a set of "old" knobs for the Virus b ? > > >>'Cause we liked them :-) > >I liked the "a-knobs" much more :-))) > >Gruss, RalfWould it be possible in future updates to have FOUR LFO's? We now have four Osc...Zzounds will do the Virus B for $1199 if you ask nicely, seriously...they did for me. As for the knobs, I think the Bs are some seriously great tweakers. Probably most interesting knobs I've used are the Microwave xt.....but unfortunately the price for that individuality is a synth twice the size but not twice the power.Hi all- I'm new to the list after having just aquired a virus a week ago.Ê After suffering through a proteus 2000 for the last year, this box is my new best friend.Ê I'm loving the sounds and the interface is very friendly. I'm having some issues though doing some things that I feel sure are very basic to a more experienced user.Ê Namely, having created a multitimbral grouping of sounds, I like to tweek the sounds within the multitimbral setup.Ê I do this by going to each "part" and playing with the knobs.Ê But by the end of a session, when I've got as many as 16 sounds dialed in new ways, I'm uncertain how to best commit all of these "new" sounds to perminant memory in the virus.Ê Is this clear?Ê Can I blast a sysex "screenshot" of sorts to my sequencer (Logic) that would recreate the modified patches when I start the sequence?Ê Do I save each of the sounds individually and ifÊI do, can I do this while in the multitimbral setup or do I have to exit into a single "patch" mode, and save each sound like that.Ê That seems quite cumbersome, but maybe that's the deal. I apologize for posting such a general question on the list.Ê Any thoughts would be very appreciated. Lee does anyone on the list use a sonic maximizer? which one? how or in what part of your music do u use it? what kind of music do u do? thanks Hi Lee, Welcome to the list! . >.Ê But by the end of a session, when I've got as many as 16 sounds dialed in new ways, I'm uncertain how to best commit all of >these "new" sounds to perminant memory in the virus.Ê Is this clear?Ê Can I blast a sysex "screenshot" of sorts to my >sequencer (Logic) that would recreate the modified patches when I start the sequence?Ê . Yes, the best way is to go to the control menu, dial up MIDI DUMP TX, change the setting to Arrangement dump, set your sequencer to a point before any music data, start it recording, and then hit the Store key on the Virus. Assuming you have connected your MIDI out on the Virus to your sequencer, all 16 channels will do a sysex dump, so all of the tweaks you have done will now be recreated perfectly every time you load up that song! Have fun! -Ben E-mu Systems uses the same Virus 'a' knobs for their 1 U rack ROMplers (e.g., Proteus 20000, XL-1, Virtuoso, etc.). I like the big old clunky Minimoog knobs and hate the knurled aluminum razor knobs. But, drawbars are my favorite kind of knobs 8^]... Ciao, Dan netwrk77@iafrica.com wrote: >For your info : the British Citronic d j mixers also use the 1st virus's knobs > >I also like the 1st knobs but not sure which I like the most > >jayO >-----Original Message----- >From: Ralf >To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 25 March 2000 20:18 >Subject: Re: Virus b Knobs > >>Is it possible to get a set of "old" knobs for the Virus b ? >> >> >>>'Cause we liked them :-) >> >>I liked the "a-knobs" much more :-))) >> >>Gruss, Ralf For your info : the British Citronic d j mixers also use the 1st virus's knobs I also like the 1st knobs but not sure which I like the most jayO -----Original Message----- From: Ralf To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 25 March 2000 20:18 Subject: Re: Virus b Knobs >Is it possible to get a set of "old" knobs for the Virus b ? > > >>'Cause we liked them :-) > >I liked the "a-knobs" much more :-))) > >Gruss, Ralf Has anyone out there who owns a Pulse checked into RP's Pulse 2000 soundset? I do Ambient/Space music, and am looking for some fresh sounds. Would this be up my alley at all? Needs to be more than just nasty bass, and perc stuff. Looking for paddy, skin-crawlin' type leads and such. Anyone!? Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com All I can say is that (1)Why don't you have a look at the site, maybe you will find some 'demo' sounds from the soundset. Else (2)ask Rob to send you a couple of examples. He is always very forthcoming and although it is his business to make sounds, I don;t think he is only there to make a buck. I am sure he will ablige cheers cyber7 (aka Aubrey) On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 13:53:25 CST, "brooks rongstad" wrote: Has anyone out there who owns a Pulse checked into RP's Pulse 2000 soundset? >I do Ambient/Space music, and am looking for some fresh sounds. Would this be up my alley at all? Needs to be more than just nasty bass, and perc stuff. Looking for paddy, skin-crawlin' type leads and such. > >Anyone!? > >Brooks >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ----------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************** http://go.to/cyber7 (alt: http://cyber7.musicpage.com) http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 mail: cyber7@mighty.co.za ******************************************** Brought to you by MightyMail! http://www.mighty.co.zaSorry about that, but I've already sent the money to your friend. I expect it to be shipped tomorrow! 8^] Junksie@aol.com wrote: >ITS NOT FOR sale, that was my friend tryin to play a joke on me. Sorry about the inconvience. JonI am sellin my virus a. It is in mint condition. not a scratch on it. Just wanted to give it up to someone who will use it more than I and to the real lovers of the virus before i have to put it up on ebay or something.. Email me personally and well talk price and shipping. JonITS NOT FOR sale, that was my friend tryin to play a joke on me. Sorry about the inconvience. JonCan you Tell me if there might be a similar Club Logic for Logic users in the US? I would love to hook up with other Logic users in my city (Minneapolis). Thanks to anyone that can steer me in this direction! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:01 AM Subject: Re: CUBASE support mail list ???? >there is something called Club cubase. they bring out a monthly or so newsletter where they discuss cool features in Cubase and they also organize >meetings of Cubase users in different cities. i think you can find information on that on the Steinberg website (steinberg.us.com). i have found links on that website for free plug-ins etc. also. > >Special K Hi list! It's been nice talking to all you infected ones all this time. I'm off this list now, as I'm moving back to England. If anyone *really* needs to reach me, please mail to Basil.Brooks@policymaster.co.uk for the time being. A special thanks to Access for giving the world a wonderful machine - see me 'n my Virus at the "Zero to Infinity" launch party - being streamed into the net on April 6th (check www.planetgong.co.uk for details). atb Howard / GwyoAnna, How can I till if my Virus b has the latest OS? Mine says 3.0 Is the a 3.0r? If I remember correctly, when you first boot up, you'll see a little "a" on the display. Once you load in the new OS, you'll see a little "b".Can someone explain why when I change the BPM of the Virus clock, my arps still run the at the same speed? Is it a Virus bug or a user bug?do you sendÊ a midiclock??? bye torsten ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Slobotski To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 5:15 PM Subject: Virus Clock Can someone explain why when I change the BPM of the Virus clock, my arps still run the at the same speed? Is it a Virus bug or a user bug? Hi ! When your seqeuncer sends midiclock to the virus, the virus automatically change its speed to the midiclocksignal.you can change the arp-tempo in this case by changing the arpeggiator clock in the control menu(1/16;1/8.....) stay fresh jens > >Can someone explain why when I change the BPM of the Virus clock, my arps still run the at the same speed? Is it a Virus bug or a user bug?We're gonna miss you and your ability to make those great patches ! Have Fun, Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Howard Scarr To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 6:20 AM Subject: Bye bye from Howard... >Hi list! > >It's been nice talking to all you infected ones all this time. I'm off this list now, as I'm moving back to England. If anyone *really* needs to reach me, please mail to Basil.Brooks@policymaster.co.uk for the time being. > >A special thanks to Access for giving the world a wonderful machine - see me >'n my Virus at the "Zero to Infinity" launch party - being streamed into the >net on April 6th (check www.planetgong.co.uk for details). > >atb >Howard / Gwyo > I have already unsubscribed to this list (confirmed) but still get a lot of listmail... anyone? Ole Ole Vik Overtone Tlf. [+47] 88 00 88 77 >Would it be possible in future updates to have FOUR LFO's? We now have four Osc... ... and a real matrix for modulations (let's see ... 20 sources times 90 destinations.... 1800 slots!) ... now that would be cool! zs>>Would it be possible in future updates to have FOUR LFO's? We now have four >>Osc... > >>... and a real matrix for modulations (let's see ... 20 sources times 90 destinations.... 1800 slots!) ... now that would be cool! > > >Indeed! And while we're on the subject of LFO's, any chance of a parameter whereby you could make the waveforms >unipolar?.. I'm sure this would make pitch modulations much more intuitive and musical. -BenAnyone know of any books or sites where i could become more familiar with all the functions and what each one individually does on the virus. I read the manual, i just want more. Jjust play with the damn thing! ;-) seriously, http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/2288/ has articles on Subtractive synthesis (this is how the Virus makes noise) and FM (the Virus has this too, though in a simple form). On a more advanced tip, I've written one (1) little list of instructions on how to do some cool stuff with a Virus. http://geocities.yahoo.com/edsarkiss/virus/filter all the best, -zs Junksie@aol.com wrote: > >Anyone know of any books or sites where i could become more familiar with all the functions and what each one individually does on the virus. I read the manual, i just want more. J -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================Sorry i am writing so much, but just got my virus a week ago and know very limited info about VA synths. I am having ALOT of trouble with the vocoder. Ill lay down a midi track in cubase or logic and ill want to run it through the vocoder, but when i switch over to vocoder, and goto osc, or noise, no sounds come out now. What the hell am i doing wrong? Also, for the logic and cubase users, how do you run just audio tracks through the filters? Thanks for the patience and helpJunksie@aol.com writes: | Sorry i am writing so much, but just got my virus a week ago and know very | limited info about VA synths. I am having ALOT of trouble with the vocoder. | Ill lay down a midi track in cubase or logic and ill want to run it through | the vocoder, but when i switch over to vocoder, and goto osc, or noise, no | sounds come out now. What the hell am i doing wrong? Also, for the logic and | cubase users, how do you run just audio tracks through the filters? Thanks | for the patience and help This is about *audio* routing, and not really midi routing. Here's what you do: - Set up a source sound, traditionally somebody talking (but can be cool to vocode percussion and other things)-- this is the "modulator". - Route your modulator into the Virus inputs. (I have a pair of patchbay points dedicated to the Virus inputs.) - Set up a midi track to play notes on the Virus-- the notes played on the Virus are the "carrier" signal. Play your modulator and carrier tracks at the same time. -- C J Silverio ceej@spies.com Black book: an online journal >... and a real matrix for modulations (let's see ... 20 sources times 90 destinations.... 1800 slots!) ... now that would be cool! It would be a UI nightmare. Unless it was implemented distinctly similar to how Access have already done it. Cheers, Thomaswell, I could deal with a mere 12 slots ... I find myself maxxing out 6 pretty quickly. -zs Thomas Whitmore wrote: > >>... and a real matrix for modulations (let's see ... 20 sources times 90 destinations.... 1800 slots!) ... now that would be cool! > >It would be a UI nightmare. Unless it was implemented distinctly similar to how Access have already done it. > >Cheers, >Thomas>well, I could deal with a mere 12 slots ... > >I find myself maxxing out 6 pretty quickly. Sure. What are your common modulations? I mostly wire up the ModWheel & VelocityOn. Cheers, ThomasHi! I've got the following problem.. I make 3 tracks on my sequencer (everything on the virus a) 1. 4/4 Kick, 2. 4/4 HitHat (both played at the same time), 3. continuous bassline if i play the sequences, the kick drum doesn't sound equable everytime it's played. Every 2nd, 3rd or 4th (not constant) the note is played, it's sounding diffrent for one time. What I'm doing wrong? Has it somthing to do with the voices? I cant imgine why....Unison and Appregiator are turned off Would be very nice if one of you could help me... Thanx in advance greetz MikeThat is the first question I asked on the list when I got my Virus b :) The answer is for each drum sound, you need to change the osc phase to anything else, but 'off' so that the oscillator will begin at the same phase everything you hit the key. norsez --- Zolliker Michael wrote: >Hi! > >I've got the following problem.. >I make 3 tracks on my sequencer (everything on the virus a) >1. 4/4 Kick, 2. 4/4 HitHat (both played at the same time), 3. continuous >bassline > >if i play the sequences, the kick drum doesn't sound equable everytime it's >played. Every 2nd, 3rd or 4th (not constant) the note is played, it's >sounding diffrent for one time. What I'm doing wrong? Has it somthing to do >with the voices? I cant imgine why....Unison and Appregiator are turned off > >Would be very nice if one of you could help me... > >Thanx in advance > >greetz >Mike > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comI want to see if anyone else has any opinions on the way the Multi editing is handled in the Virus B. Can someone explain to me what the purpose of multi/single mode is? Is there a rhyme or reason for having a "multi/single" edit mode versus just a "multi" edit mode? There also seems to be a lot of redundant parameters between different editing modes. For example - I can access the "Part Enable" parameter in 3 different modes - "Multi control", "Multi/Single Control" and "Multi Edit". (It can't change it in "multi/single edit") Why is this? Does any one else vote for a simpler Multi menu system? Bill (or Wilhelm, depending)thats the way it works , when it works . there are several types of drums which still are unstable when the virus is used in multi single mode and several parts play at the same time . These critical drums all seem to be programed with a fast filter envelope , so when you program drum sounds try to avoid filter envelopes . Oliver Norsez Orankijanan schrieb: >That is the first question I asked on the list when I got my Virus b :) The answer is for each drum sound, you need to change the osc phase to anything else, but 'off' so that the oscillator will begin at the same phase everything you hit the key. > >norsez > >--- Zolliker Michael wrote: >>Hi! >> >>I've got the following problem.. >>I make 3 tracks on my sequencer (everything on the virus a) >>1. 4/4 Kick, 2. 4/4 HitHat (both played at the same time), 3. continuous >>bassline >> >>if i play the sequences, the kick drum doesn't sound equable everytime it's >>played. Every 2nd, 3rd or 4th (not constant) the note is played, it's >>sounding diffrent for one time. What I'm doing wrong? Has it somthing to do >>with the voices? I cant imgine why....Unison and Appregiator are turned off >> >>Would be very nice if one of you could help me... >> >>Thanx in advance >> >>greetz >>Mike >> >> >> >> > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comThat's interesting. I haven't seen the problem yet cos usually I use LFOs for envelopes. Perhaps I will try using the the filter env tonight. norsez --- Oliver wrote: >thats the way it works , when it works . there are several types of >drums which still are unstable when the virus is used in multi single >mode and several parts play at the same time . These critical drums all seem to be programed with a fast filter >envelope , so when you program drum sounds try to avoid filter envelopes >. > > >Oliver > >Norsez Orankijanan schrieb: > >>That is the first question I asked on the list >when I >>got my Virus b :) The answer is for each drum >sound, >>you need to change the osc phase to anything else, >but >>'off' so that the oscillator will begin at the >same >>phase everything you hit the key. >> >>norsez >> >>--- Zolliker Michael wrote: >>>Hi! >>> >>>I've got the following problem.. >>>I make 3 tracks on my sequencer (everything on >the >>>virus a) >>>1. 4/4 Kick, 2. 4/4 HitHat (both played at the >same >>>time), 3. continuous >>>bassline >>> >>>if i play the sequences, the kick drum doesn't >sound >>>equable everytime it's >>>played. Every 2nd, 3rd or 4th (not constant) the note is played, it's >>>sounding diffrent for one time. What I'm doing wrong? Has it somthing to do >>>with the voices? I cant imgine why....Unison and Appregiator are turned off >>> >>>Would be very nice if one of you could help >me... >>> >>>Thanx in advance >>> >>>greetz >>>Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comHi Bill, I personally use multi-single mode all the time, because you can make and save any changes you want to any sound on any channel. I don't understand why there isn't a 'priority' setting in this mode though? -Ben. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Slobotski To: Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 4:21 PM Subject: Multi Single mode >I want to see if anyone else has any opinions on the way the Multi editing is handled in the Virus B. > >Can someone explain to me what the purpose of multi/single mode is? Is there a rhyme or reason for having a "multi/single" edit mode versus just a >"multi" edit mode? > >There also seems to be a lot of redundant parameters between different editing modes. For example - I can access the "Part Enable" parameter in 3 >different modes - "Multi control", "Multi/Single Control" and "Multi Edit". >(It can't change it in "multi/single edit") Why is this? > >Does any one else vote for a simpler Multi menu system? > >Bill (or Wilhelm, depending) Sorry for being O/T, but I'm really trying to understand if I were to buy a digital recorder that uses a hard drive, shouldn't an 8 track be sufficiant if all I'm doing is recording my dance music? There are no live guitarists, drummers, or any other instrument. Just my VA Synths, samplers, and FX boxes going into my Mackie Mixer. So technically I could do it all with a 2 track mixer, but to be realistic these mixers come in 8/16/24 channel flavors. I don't want to spend more money than I need to, so if I get an 8 track is this reasonable? Or should I seriously be recording more tracks seperately? I would GREATLY appreciate any feedback! Regards, MarkMark: To really mix and produce things properly (in my opinion anyway), the more tracks you have the better. I do primarily synthetic music (everything from techno and ebm to more expreimental trance stuff) and I will easily use 20 tracks on a piece. I record EVERYTHING to its own track - each kick, each snare, everything (except open/closed hi-hats - they can live on the same channel). this gives me the ability to eq and effect each sound differently and to control thier levels very precisely. I do this using Logic Audio Gold (32 tracks) on a pentium III 450mhz with 192 megs of ram and 2 10gb hard drives (with a Castlewood Orb drive for backup). This setup has been very good to me - i record all the little bits I come up with on my synths, and then do all the arranging/mixing in the pc. I have a friend with a sound treated room that has the same setup - all i do is put the stuff onto a disk or CD-r and i can take it over there and reference it in a professional audio environment. I originally was going to go the hardware rout, but 8 tracks of hardware HD recording cost ALOT more - particularly if you add in that your going to need outboard mixing and FX in most cases. even if you have onboard FX, you wont get nearly as many inserts as you get in logic - ive had as many as 20 FX running on various channels with EQ's and dynamics processors used all over the place. I am upgrading to a pIII 1000mhz as soon as they come out, and that should increase my processing potential even further!. Let me know if you have any other questions. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Mark Holloway [mailto:mholloway@flashmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:40 AM To: Access List Subject: OT: 8/16/24 Channel Recording Sorry for being O/T, but I'm really trying to understand if I were to buy a digital recorder that uses a hard drive, shouldn't an 8 track be sufficiant if all I'm doing is recording my dance music? There are no live guitarists, drummers, or any other instrument. Just my VA Synths, samplers, and FX boxes going into my Mackie Mixer. So technically I could do it all with a 2 track mixer, but to be realistic these mixers come in 8/16/24 channel flavors. I don't want to spend more money than I need to, so if I get an 8 track is this reasonable? Or should I seriously be recording more tracks seperately? I would GREATLY appreciate any feedback! Regards, Mark>>well, I could deal with a mere 12 slots ... >> >>I find myself maxxing out 6 pretty quickly. > >Sure. What are your common modulations? > >I mostly wire up the ModWheel & VelocityOn. yup, those are my most common also ... I also like to map aftertouch to LFO3 OSC Amt and a little filter as well. I'd use all the mod sources if there were enough slots... zWhat about a two page setup with two parameters (cursor positions) per page. Page one sets the Assign Number (slot) and Source, while page two sets the Destination and Amount. I do find that I want to have more than one controller to effect several parameters at a time. Having a 12 slot matrix would allow for at least 3 controllers to modify 4 parameters at a time. NICE... Rick > >yup, those are my most common also ... I also like to map aftertouch to LFO3 OSC Amt and a little filter as well. > >I'd use all the mod sources if there were enough slots... > >zwell, i am going to be recording live stuff as well as synths, and i was looking into the akai 12 track harddisc (6 simul. rec, 12 simul playback) so that i can run all my synths and shit into my mixer, and then record that into one channel of the akai, then use the other channels for any live stuff i want to add. the only problem i see is the fact that i cannot do any real mixdown with the synths in this scenario, because theyll all be recorded on one channel of the akai. is there a better way to facilitate what i want to do? tom Tony Scharf wrote: > > >To really mix and produce things properly (in my opinion anyway), the more tracks you have the better. I do primarily synthetic music (everything from techno and ebm to more expreimental trance stuff) and I will easily use 20 tracks on a piece. I record EVERYTHING to its own track - each kick, each snare, everything (except open/closed hi-hats - they can live on the same channel). this gives me the ability to eq and effect each sound differently and to control thier levels very precisely. I do this using Logic Audio Gold (32 tracks) on a pentium III 450mhz with 192 megs of ram and 2 10gb hard drives (with a Castlewood Orb drive for backup). This setup has been very good to me - i record all the little bits I come up with on my synths, and then do all the arranging/mixing in the pc. I have a friend with a sound treated room that has the same setup - all i do is put the stuff onto a disk or CD-r and i can take it over there and reference it in a professional audio environment. > >I originally was going to go the hardware rout, but 8 tracks of hardware HD recording cost ALOT more - particularly if you add in that your going to need outboard mixing and FX in most cases. even if you have onboard FX, you wont get nearly as many inserts as you get in logic - ive had as many as 20 FX running on various channels with EQ's and dynamics processors used all over the place. I am upgrading to a pIII 1000mhz as soon as they come out, and that should increase my processing potential even further!. > >Let me know if you have any other questions. Tony > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Holloway [mailto:mholloway@flashmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:40 AM >To: Access List >Subject: OT: 8/16/24 Channel Recording > >Sorry for being O/T, but I'm really trying to understand if I were to buy a digital recorder that uses a hard drive, shouldn't an 8 track be sufficiant if all I'm doing is recording my dance music? There are no live guitarists, drummers, or any other instrument. Just my VA Synths, samplers, and FX boxes going into my Mackie Mixer. So technically I could do it all with a 2 track mixer, but to be realistic these mixers come in 8/16/24 channel flavors. I don't want to spend more money than I need to, so if I get an 8 track is this reasonable? Or should I seriously be recording more tracks seperately? > >I would GREATLY appreciate any feedback! > >Regards, >MarkMark: Unless you want to spend inordinate amounts of time bouncing and you don't mind lots of pre-production planning, you could probably get by with an 8 track recorder. On the other hand, if you're the sort who'd like to have a huge canvas to paint on before deciding how the final piece should look (and sound), then you're going to need more tracks. I use Logic Audio and quickly use up 32 tracks. Remember, you've got a huge stereo field and frequency spectrum to work with. Moreover, you may want each sound to be compressed or eq'd slightly differently so that your track isn't 'muddy'. Panning is another issue. In my experience, drums alone could easily fill up 8 tracks. Why not use PC/MAC software based digital audio with a used mixing console? Once you get your tracks on the hard drive, it matters little about the mixer you used to get it done(as long as it is reasonably quiet). Best Regards, Griffinanyone use Vegas? I love how SoundForge is designed, and I'm tempted to get their multitracker... Griffin Vance wrote: > >Mark: > >Unless you want to spend inordinate amounts of time bouncing and you don't mind lots of pre-production planning, you could probably get by with an 8 track recorder. On the other hand, if you're the sort who'd like to have a huge canvas to paint on before deciding how the final piece should look (and sound), then you're going to need more tracks. I use Logic Audio and quickly use up 32 tracks. Remember, you've got a huge stereo field and frequency spectrum to work with. Moreover, you may want each sound to be compressed or eq'd slightly differently so that your track isn't 'muddy'. Panning is another issue. In my experience, drums alone could easily fill up 8 tracks. > >Why not use PC/MAC software based digital audio with a used mixing console? Once you get your tracks on the hard drive, it matters little about the mixer you used to get it done(as long as it is reasonably quiet). > >Best Regards, Griffin -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================This is why logic is great. I have 4 inputs on my Core 2 card, + 4 inputs on my darwin (I do recordings for some other bands I know, and they need the traditional multi tracking). I keep all thier keyboard parts vitual on the sequencer, and automate my mixdown of the midi tracks + audio tracks using my Yamaha promix 01. system works great. -----Original Message----- From: death?!?! valley [mailto:death@andythepooh.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 2:20 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 8/16/24 Channel Recording well, i am going to be recording live stuff as well as synths, and i was looking into the akai 12 track harddisc (6 simul. rec, 12 simul playback) so that i can run all my synths and shit into my mixer, and then record that into one channel of the akai, then use the other channels for any live stuff i want to add. the only problem i see is the fact that i cannot do any real mixdown with the synths in this scenario, because theyll all be recorded on one channel of the akai. is there a better way to facilitate what i want to do? tom Tony Scharf wrote: > > >To really mix and produce things properly (in my opinion anyway), the more tracks you have the better. I do primarily synthetic music (everything from >techno and ebm to more expreimental trance stuff) and I will easily use 20 tracks on a piece. I record EVERYTHING to its own track - each kick, each snare, everything (except open/closed hi-hats - they can live on the same channel). this gives me the ability to eq and effect each sound differently >and to control thier levels very precisely. I do this using Logic Audio Gold (32 tracks) on a pentium III 450mhz with 192 megs of ram and 2 10gb hard drives (with a Castlewood Orb drive for backup). This setup has been very good to me - i record all the little bits I come up with on my synths, >and then do all the arranging/mixing in the pc. I have a friend with a sound treated room that has the same setup - all i do is put the stuff onto >a disk or CD-r and i can take it over there and reference it in a professional audio environment. > >I originally was going to go the hardware rout, but 8 tracks of hardware HD >recording cost ALOT more - particularly if you add in that your going to need outboard mixing and FX in most cases. even if you have onboard FX, you >wont get nearly as many inserts as you get in logic - ive had as many as 20 >FX running on various channels with EQ's and dynamics processors used all over the place. I am upgrading to a pIII 1000mhz as soon as they come out, >and that should increase my processing potential even further!. > >Let me know if you have any other questions. Tony > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Holloway [mailto:mholloway@flashmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:40 AM >To: Access List >Subject: OT: 8/16/24 Channel Recording > >Sorry for being O/T, but I'm really trying to understand if I were to buy a >digital recorder that uses a hard drive, shouldn't an 8 track be sufficiant >if all I'm doing is recording my dance music? There are no live guitarists, >drummers, or any other instrument. Just my VA Synths, samplers, and FX boxes going into my Mackie Mixer. So technically I could do it all with a >2 track mixer, but to be realistic these mixers come in 8/16/24 channel flavors. I don't want to spend more money than I need to, so if I get an 8 >track is this reasonable? Or should I seriously be recording more tracks seperately? > >I would GREATLY appreciate any feedback! > >Regards, >MarkVegas's lack of MIDI support is why I dont use it. If they get really good MIDI sequencing built into it - I would change over in a heartbeat. I use SF to do most of myaudio editing. -----Original Message----- From: zs@yahoo-inc.com [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 3:09 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: 8/16/24 Channel Recording anyone use Vegas? I love how SoundForge is designed, and I'm tempted to get their multitracker... Griffin Vance wrote: > >Mark: > >Unless you want to spend inordinate amounts of time bouncing and you don't mind lots of pre-production planning, you could probably get by with an 8 track recorder. On the other hand, if you're the sort who'd like to have a >huge canvas to paint on before deciding how the final piece should look (and >sound), then you're going to need more tracks. I use Logic Audio and quickly use up 32 tracks. Remember, you've got a huge stereo field and frequency spectrum to work with. Moreover, you may want each sound to be compressed or eq'd slightly differently so that your track isn't 'muddy'. Panning is another issue. In my experience, drums alone could easily fill up >8 tracks. > >Why not use PC/MAC software based digital audio with a used mixing console? >Once you get your tracks on the hard drive, it matters little about the mixer you used to get it done(as long as it is reasonably quiet). > >Best Regards, Griffin -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================I thought I was crazy until I prooved my sanity... I have a multi-channel sequence on Cubase using the VIRUS b among other things. Two of the VIRUS parts are using the arpeggiator running off MIDI clock (three hundred and eighty whatever PPQ). If I start the sequence shortly before or at the point where these parts come in, it works fine, but if these parts come in after a prolonged rest (ie these parts aren't used for a while) when they come back in they are completely out of time (i.e. off by several PPQs). I originally thought that the MIDI clock was getting corrupted through my MIDI Timepiece AV-USB, but did several tests with results as follows. ** A ten minute arpeggiated sequence worked fine...played it several times with click track and was happy with the timing (although it was really irritating to listen too!). This prooved the integrity of MDID clock through the MOTU MIDI Timepiece ** IN the piece in question, the arpeggiated parts work fine near the beginning of the piece, but are out of sync when they come back later in the piece. If I start the song shortly (a few bars) before they come back in the timing is fine. ** NOW THIS IS THE TEST THAT REALLY CLINCHES IT: I put a test arpeggiated sequence (on the same multi part) throughout the gap between the two original occurrences of arpeggiation. When the original parts came back in they were fine. I repeated the piece several times with and without the test sequence in the middle. It always worked with the arpeggiator playing throughout the piece, and it was hit or miss when I omitted any arpeggiator in the middle of the piece (which is unfortunately how that piece of music is....) I have verified that the VIRUS b is in fact receiving MIDI clock (the little c is there) in all instances. This makes this piece difficult to record and impossible to play live. If this is a bug in the VIRUS, is there at least some way to get the arpeggiator back in sync with the MIDI clock before it start playing again? If my understanding is correct, the 384 PPQ timing does not keep track of the "start" of each quarter note, so once it's out it's out for good. Help?I have now unsubscribed to this list twice, bit times confirmed, and still get all the mails.... anyone here who can help me out? Or will get these list-mails till I die? Thanks Ole Ole Vik Overtone Tlf. [+47] 88 00 88 77 Hi everyone! I've found an infuriating bug that happens in multi-single mode. Basically, you cannot assign either of the LFOs to do anything without them completely destroying your sound! It seems that as soon as you select a destination, it will affect your sound even though the amount parameter is set to 0. Certain destinations affect it more than others. This means that the only way to edit your sound is to go to single mode, and then back into multi-single. There is also a similar bug in single edit, when selecting assign destinations, but this only happens when you change the dest whilst actually playing. Anyone else found this? Cheers, -Ben. yes i got kind of the same fault few weeks ago too! i (?) let s say the virus created a fantastic sound and i did not have it under control. it was like you say and it was not possible to store it! so i tried saving this sound but no chance! finally i - and it was the first time after two years - the maschine hung!!! tried the reset and there was no problem anymore - but the sound went! it s only a computer i think. kanouIs there a Random Voice mode for the Virus b? In addition, I was wondering why there was a PANIC function and have found out why. My Virus b tends to create STUCK notes. Does this happen to any one else? thxDoes any one know for sure if the banks C and D on the Virus b will ever offer flash ROM burning. Will this ability ever be realized? ThxI used to have this problem, but it was a combo of a bad soundcard and a crap computer... ...RM1x solves everything. computers suck. believe it, or not, I'm an IT guy. B -----Original Message----- From: anaya [mailto:monokrom@sirius.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:26 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random voice mode found! (Stuck notes) Is there a Random Voice mode for the Virus b? In addition, I was wondering why there was a PANIC function and have found out why. My Virus b tends to create STUCK notes. Does this happen to any one else? thxHas any one ever notice a crackling noise produced from the delay fx? The one thing that I have come to conclusion is that the Virus's delay quality is not at par with other synths and DSP units. It's frail at this. I'd have to learn how to program a decent delay with out that terrible crackling! ;-\Well, I'm using a Mac (of course) and the Opcode 128x interface. Perhaps it's the midi interface? How's that RM1x? Can you bounce tracks on that thing? Bryan Rodgers wrote: >I used to have this problem, but it was a combo of a bad soundcard and a crap computer... ...RM1x solves everything. > >computers suck. > >believe it, or not, I'm an IT guy. > >B > >From: anaya [mailto:monokrom@sirius.com] > >Is there a Random Voice mode for the Virus b? > >In addition, I was wondering why there was a PANIC function and have found out why. My Virus b tends to create STUCK notes. > >Does this happen to any one else? > >thxRM1x is amazing. It'll do everything I've ever needed a sequencer to do, and do it 'live' as well! I decided a long time ago that I wanted to get out of computer based sequencing, with the RM1x I can export the files as midi data, and go back to Cubase anytime should I ever change my mind again... err, by bouncing tracks, do you mean copying to other patterns, etc? B -----Original Message----- From: anaya [mailto:monokrom@sirius.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:43 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random voice mode found! (Stuck notes) Well, I'm using a Mac (of course) and the Opcode 128x interface. Perhaps it's the midi interface? How's that RM1x? Can you bounce tracks on that thing? Bryan Rodgers wrote: >I used to have this problem, but it was a combo of a bad soundcard and a crap computer... ...RM1x solves everything. > >computers suck. > >believe it, or not, I'm an IT guy. > >B > >From: anaya [mailto:monokrom@sirius.com] > >Is there a Random Voice mode for the Virus b? > >In addition, I was wondering why there was a PANIC function and have found out why. My Virus b tends to create STUCK notes. > >Does this happen to any one else? > >thxWith the RM1x you can't have a keyboard controlling the virus, and be able to record your virus knob movements back into the RM1X like you can in software (and still be able to use your keyboard as an instrument. You can control the virus from the RM1x but you pass up the Virus's interface for recording knob movements and to me that was a major set back. I like to play the virus from keys, and still be able to record it's knob movements. I ALLLLLMOST bought the RM1x, it's a damn nice little box for not that much money. (I only really like it as a sequencer I'm not too sold on the sounds in it.... I'll wait for the RM2x which hopefully will have more midi ins and outs.) I suspect it will come availible within 16 months (basing that on product cycles and saturated market of 1x's by that time.) It seems to be built in a way that if you wanted to use your virus with it you have to use that little button keyboard on the RM1x, then you get to plug the midi in and out directy to the virus. If I didn't want to use my Kawai keyboard with it, I'd have bought it in a blink as I think that its really well suited for the kinds of music I do and even tho I'm not a fan of the rom sounds on it, it seems I'd still have fun with some of them. In the meantime I bought a mac and I'm really pleased with the stability vs my PC. (I'm not a PC or Mac dude, they are just tools to me so don't bother waisting breath on flames, cuz I have no passion one way or another about what OS is better (they both stink equally to me as an interface designer haha)). I'm rather impressed I was able to set up my little studio up in a couple hours and figure out how to use the mac in that time which included OMS install and some software and software updates etc... and it's not crashed yet in the month I've had it (which is impressive to me) but I'm not using it a ton either. It was not a headache to get going like my PC that is for sure. I still use my PC for other things, but for sequencing I give it to the Mac.... anyway, I'm slipping off topic.... The RM1x is the best sequencer on a budget if you don't have a computer based on what I know (and I'm by no means an expert). Other options would be the QY700 which has 2 ins and outs, and the RM1x is based off this hardware... it's the big brother.. and prefered choice of the two with a huge LCD. Lots of people swear by both units, the QY 700 is sold in europe pretty cheap, but not here int he states. In the states it's price competes with PC's and iMacs. Do a search on DejaNews.com and read up on these things at SonicState.com and HarmonyCentral.com and SoundOnSound.com for good magazine reviews. These are my best sources for info.... far better than my local music store. There are alot of people on the list with QY700's who love them and you'll get more clarity in the feedback from them about it should you ask for it. Have Fun, James -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Rodgers To: 'access-list@teklab.com' Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 7:53 AM Subject: RE: random voice mode found! (Stuck notes) >RM1x is amazing. It'll do everything I've ever needed a sequencer to do, and >do it 'live' as well! I decided a long time ago that I wanted to get out of computer based sequencing, with the RM1x I can export the files as midi data, and go back to Cubase anytime should I ever change my mind again... > >err, by bouncing tracks, do you mean copying to other patterns, etc? > >B > >-----Original Message----- >From: anaya [mailto:monokrom@sirius.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:43 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: random voice mode found! (Stuck notes) > > >Well, I'm using a Mac (of course) and the Opcode 128x interface. Perhaps it's the midi interface? > >How's that RM1x? Can you bounce tracks on that thing? > > > >Bryan Rodgers wrote: > >>I used to have this problem, but it was a combo of a bad soundcard and a crap computer... ...RM1x solves everything. >> >>computers suck. >> >>believe it, or not, I'm an IT guy. >> >>B >> >>From: anaya [mailto:monokrom@sirius.com] >> >>Is there a Random Voice mode for the Virus b? >> >>In addition, I was wondering why there was a PANIC function and have found out why. My Virus b tends to create STUCK notes. >> >>Does this happen to any one else? >> >>thx no, all to the contrary, I think the delay of the Virus is really really good. It had some problems in some ancient version of the OS, but has long since been resolved. In fact the delay of the Virus is very good and very smooth, I think. Try it for yourself! If all else fails, try resetting your Virus (hold down LFO 1 Shape while turning on the Virus until the display reads something like "Resetting blah blahblah"...;-) good luck and have fun.,... At 7:39 AM -0800 on 29.03.2000 anaya wrote: Has any one ever notice a crackling noise produced from the delay fx? The one thing that I have come to conclusion is that the Virus's delay quality is not at par with other synths and DSP units. It's frail at this. I'd have to learn how to program a decent delay with out that terrible crackling! ;-\ think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi, I've once or twice had stuck notes, even with OS 3.0b... mostly when playing a lot of midi and in the meantime changing the program via the sequencer. Stopping the sequencer cured it the first time as far as I remember, and the second time I just powered the Virus off and then on again. Emagic Logic PC, Unitor 8 MkII + Unitor 8 MkI stacked on it. The Virus works great as it is now and that very little problem really doesn't bother me at all. Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysIve found a REAL quick way to clear a stuck midi note. It usually seems to be caused when the synth receives a note off message too quick for it to respond. This is a much bigger problem with my six trak. The solution is simple, just runs your fingers down the entire keyboard, slowly that every key will get that note off. 2 secs MAX and the stuuck note is off. This may seem a hackneyed solution but i HATE the pop when you turn the beast off.. ******************************** Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm k/RAD LABS-|||http://kradlabs.home.texas.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 7: Problem: Can I use Cubase with Windows 2000? -Answer: At the moment Windows does not run with Windows 2000 http://www.ricbrown.clara.net/MainF.html ***************************************************** On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >Hi, > >I've once or twice had stuck notes, even with OS 3.0b... mostly when playing a lot of midi and in the meantime changing the program via the sequencer. Stopping the sequencer cured it the first time as far as I remember, and the second time I just powered the Virus off and then on again. > >Emagic Logic PC, Unitor 8 MkII + Unitor 8 MkI stacked on it. > >The Virus works great as it is now and that very little problem really doesn't bother me at all. > >Bye, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > >http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays > > Are you saying that this procedure fixes the nasty POP that occurs when powering down the virus? I really hate it too - I've trained myself to turn down my mixer volume when powering it down but on the occasion that I forget, it's a real shock to the speakers and to my ears. -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: random voice mode found! (Stuck notes) Author: Non-HP-kradlabs (kradlabs@texas.net) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 3/29/00 1:18 PM Ive found a REAL quick way to clear a stuck midi note. It usually seems to be caused when the synth receives a note off message too quick for it to respond. This is a much bigger problem with my six trak. The solution is simple, just runs your fingers down the entire keyboard, slowly that every key will get that note off. 2 secs MAX and the stuuck note is off. This may seem a hackneyed solution but i HATE the pop when you turn the beast off.. ******************************** Herr Professor Peter Lewis Swimm k/RAD LABS-|||http://kradlabs.home.texas.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 7: Problem: Can I use Cubase with Windows 2000? -Answer: At the moment Windows does not run with Windows 2000 http://www.ricbrown.clara.net/MainF.html ***************************************************** On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >Hi, > >I've once or twice had stuck notes, even with OS 3.0b... mostly when playing a lot of midi and in the meantime changing the program via the sequencer. Stopping the sequencer cured it the first time as far as I remember, and the second time I just powered the Virus off and then on again. > >Emagic Logic PC, Unitor 8 MkII + Unitor 8 MkI stacked on it. > >The Virus works great as it is now and that very little problem really doesn't bother me at all. > >Bye, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > >http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays > > This has happened to me, too. When you switch LFO destinations it will sometimes change the value of that destination, requiring you to go to the affected parameter and reset it to the correct value (or you could just start editing your patch again from the beginning...) The Virus does seem a little more prone to stuck notes than my other synths, but it isn't that hard to fix, guys: that's what the "Panic" function is for. Just press both Transpose buttons together. Also, you shouldn't hear the pop from the Virus when you turn it off because you should *always* turn your amp and mixer off first. Turning on goes synth, mixer, amp, turning off goes in reverse. This is a good habit to develop since it will extend the lifetime of your monitoring system. From: "Cranes Music" Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: Subject: random voice mode found! Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:27:39 +0100 Hi everyone! I've found an infuriating bug that happens in multi-single mode. Basically, you cannot assign either of the LFOs to do anything without them completely destroying your sound! It seems that as soon as you select a destination, it will affect your sound even though the amount parameter is set to 0. Certain destinations affect it more than others. This means that the only way to edit your sound is to go to single mode, and then back into multi-single. There is also a similar bug in single edit, when selecting assign destinations, but this only happens when you change the dest whilst actually playing. Anyone else found this? Cheers, -Ben. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Greetings, Is there a way to seperate MIDI channels and get the Virus back to my PC in one device? For instance, I want to have 16 channels for my Korg and 16 channels for my Virus B. As it is now, I have to split the 16 channels between the Korg and the Virus. Also, I would like to route the Virus B back to Cakewalk somehow so I can record knob movement. Will a PC MIDI Flyer work for this application? Anything better for doing this? Thanks! Dan The Burke WwW.MP3.com/NukleoNFrom: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: olevik@online.no Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:43:23 +0000 Subject: Re: HELP - unsubsrive doesn't work Reply-to: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk X-Confirm-Reading-To: sgclarke@plymouth.ac.uk X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal >I have now unsubscribed to this list twice, both times confirmed, and still get all the mails.... >anyone here who can help me out? Or will get these list-mails till I die? > > You will get them till you die mate! I've been trying to get off this list for three months now and I'm not getting a lot of help from Jay (the list administrator. He's manually unsubscribed me but I still get all the posts. However, despite this I can't post to the list so feel free to forward this message to the list in the hope that it will embarass Jay into sorting this problem out! Steve Ole Vik Overtone Tlf. [+47] 88 00 88 77 To have 16 channels available simultaneously for both devices, you need a dual MIDI interface. MIDI interface A can run 16 channels to your Korg and MIDI interface B 16 channels to the Virus. There's lot's of options for this interface...and also several with four to eight separate interfaces ( I use a MOTU MIDI timepiece that gives me 16 channels on each of EIGHT separate devices.) As for recording knob movement, simply record your sequence, then overdub knob movements. Once your sequence is recorded, attach the MIDI out from the VIRUS to the MIDI in of the sequencer, chose "overdub" mode on your sequencer (that's what they call it in Cubase...I'm sure Cakewalk is similar), press record and tweak away. When you play back the sequence again you should hear the knob movements you just recorded. You can do this over and over again until your knobs have been tweaked to your satisfaction. -----Original Message----- From: Dan The Burke [SMTP:Burke@NocturnalE.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 3:19 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random voice mode found! (stuck notes) Greetings, Is there a way to seperate MIDI channels and get the Virus back to my PC in one device? For instance, I want to have 16 channels for my Korg and 16 channels for my Virus B. As it is now, I have to split the 16 channels between the Korg and the Virus. Also, I would like to route the Virus B back to Cakewalk somehow so I can record knob movement. Will a PC MIDI Flyer work for this application? Anything better for doing this? Thanks! Dan The Burke WwW.MP3.com/NukleoN>Has any one ever notice a crackling noise produced from the delay fx? When your sequencer changes tempo, or makes slight tempo disruption when looping... Cheers, Thomashi all, has anyone ever had the problem that when you overdub your knob movements on your sequence that the sounds doesn't play anymore because the knobs don't reset themselves to the original value? i have this problem qute frequently and have gone to the procedure of printing the sounds right away to audio with the kob moves in real time which is somewhat a pain! any ideas, thanks in advance Special KWhat do you mean "reset themselves"? Krwitte@aol.com wrote: >hi all, > >has anyone ever had the problem that when you overdub your knob movements on your sequence that the sounds doesn't play anymore because the knobs don't reset themselves to the original value? >Special Kwell, when you play the sequence form the beginning the sounds should sounds as they did before you started tweaking them because the knob moves come afterwards! what i have frequently is that is tweak and record the knobs and then when playing back the sounds don't play or are not audible because of the knob moves i made! Special KThey don't know to reset unless you tell them. Put a program change message at the head of your track before any CC msgs. From: Krwitte@aol.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: sounds don't play Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:10:24 EST hi all, has anyone ever had the problem that when you overdub your knob movements on your sequence that the sounds doesn't play anymore because the knobs don't reset themselves to the original value? i have this problem qute frequently and have gone to the procedure of printing the sounds right away to audio with the kob moves in real time which is somewhat a pain! any ideas, thanks in advance Special K ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com is there a Program Change Message dump function or something that dumps all the original settings of the patch on the track of the sequencer in the virus? Special KHey all, I have the original Virus rack and it's been having some problems. When making changes in multimode, sometimes I experience what seems to be a MIDI traffic jam. I'm play some notes and change a setting on the Virus. The notes stop playing even while striking the keys on the controller... a few seconds later, all the missing notes suddenly play at once. That's probably a terrible explanation, but has anybody experienced something similar to this before? I'm using a 8-port MOTU MidiExpress XT and usually punch the keys through with a Korg Z1. Thanks!!! -ArtHi Arthur, >When making changes in multimode, sometimes I experience what seems to be a MIDI traffic jam. I'm play some notes and change a setting on the Virus. The notes stop playing even while striking the keys on the controller... a few seconds later, all the missing notes suddenly play at once. Transmission of SysEx will interrupt other data. Do you have any dumps during the song, or which are being chased? That's the only reason this should happen, apart from HW or SW fault. Cheers, ThomasCorrection/clarification: use two program changes, one to something other than the patch you want and the second to the patch you are resetting. This tells the Virus to throw out its edit buffer. You can save a sysex or controller dump but you only need this if your patches are changing all the time. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >To have 16 channels available simultaneously for both devices, you need a dual MIDI interface. MIDI interface A can run 16 channels to your Korg and MIDI interface B 16 channels to the Virus. There's lot's of options for this interface...and also several with four to eight separate interfaces >I use a MOTU MIDI timepiece that gives me 16 channels on each of EIGHT separate devices.) > >As for recording knob movement, simply record your sequence, then overdub knob movements. Once your sequence is recorded, attach the MIDI out from the VIRUS to the MIDI in of the sequencer, chose "overdub" mode on your sequencer (that's what they call it in Cubase...I'm sure Cakewalk is similar), press record and tweak away. When you play back the sequence again you should hear the knob movements you just recorded. You can do this >over and over again until your knobs have been tweaked to your satisfaction. Hi Paddy, Thanks for the prompt and detailed explanation of everything! OK, I know pretty much what I have to do now, and it is nice to know I can overdub knob movements, though I would prefer o just have a permanent connection from the Virus MIDI OUT so that I can record knob movements the first time. ;) Is this possible by connecting the Virus out to the Midi timepiece at all? How are the drivers for the MIDI timepiece in Windows 98? Is this the piece of hardware you would most recommend for Win 98? Thanks for all your help and any input from anyone is appreciated! ;) Dan The Burke www.mp3.com/nukleonHi there, A few more questions.... Will the MIDI Timepiece AV from MOTU allow me to play my synths, even when my computer workstation is not on? As it is now, my MIDI all goes through my Sound Blaster Live, which seems to work fairly well, except for the fact that I only have 16 channels, of course. Also Paddy (or any who feel like answering), does the MIDI Time Piece give you better MIDI timing? I would imagine timing is rock solid eh? I am also thinking I could attach the Virus OUT to the MTP IN and record knob movement all in one pass...is this correct? Thanks for all the help! (This will save me the hassle of buying two different devices, hopefully). Dan The Burke www.mp3.com/NukleoN (Hey I am finally about to upload a song using the Virus B, I am STILL amazed at the sound of this thing! And to think I almost bought a SuperNova for more money...).okay, so as far as i can gather, all you need is some program to record with, and preferably a card with a bunch of ins/outs. so if i run cubase on my pc, and get a layla card, how many ins can i record at once? and how many tracks can cubase handle? are there any superior recording/mixing programs than cubase for pc? tomMany people consider Logic platinum to be superior to Cubase. Which may be true, but really they are quite close. Logic is considered more difficult by some which may be a factor.how many tracks you get depends greatly on the system you are running it on. I get 32 on my Pentium iii 450, running logic audio. I also have 256 megs of RAM so that helps alot. I believe the Layla has 8 inputs on it for recording, and you may very well be able to record that many, however I usualy have problems with timing if i record more than 4 at a time on my system. -----Original Message----- From: death?!?! valley [mailto:death@andythepooh.com] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:48 AM To: access list Subject: software multitrack recording okay, so as far as i can gather, all you need is some program to record with, and preferably a card with a bunch of ins/outs. so if i run cubase on my pc, and get a layla card, how many ins can i record at once? and how many tracks can cubase handle? are there any superior recording/mixing programs than cubase for pc? tomhow do we get to this again??? weld Kanou wrote: >yes i got kind of the same fault few weeks ago too! i (?) let s say the virus created a fantastic sound and i did not have it under control. it was like you say and it was not possible to store it! so iHi, I am new to this list and was wondering about overall Virus OS maturity. I have a VirusKB & was thinking about buying another (Or the XTK). But I was wondering just how much farther Access is going to go, and by the same token what about if I pick up a Virus A (they are Cheap now), can we expect further upgrades? How much room is left in the ROM for more code? Is there any DSP power left? How about additional filters? What about loopable self triggering envelopes? Thanks DaveWhile it's not out for PC yet (2 months), and it may not run as good as it does on a mac, the digi001 can't be beat. The PT interface is vastly superior to VST. It is simple, intuitive, and the automation is beyond compare. The 001 hardware interface is more feature laden that anything else in it's range, and it works flawlessly with PTLE. did I mention latency as low as 2.9 milliseconds thru software. This means you can play a line real-time through the 001 and the PTLE mixer routed thru FX with next to no latency. Of course this latency setting depends on your track load and CPU power. Also the 001 is capable of recording from all of it's "24 bit" inputs (18 total) at the same time. Be warned, it does lack exotic midi functions, as well as some other little gems that are available from all of it's competitors (due digidesign marketing fears), but it is still the best. Also, using this system practically insures compatibility with every major studio. Protools baby! It can't be beat. Even if it's PTLE... BTW: Only my opinion of course :-) Rick -----Original Message----- From: death?!?! valley To: access list Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:50 AM Subject: software multitrack recording >okay, so as far as i can gather, all you need is some program to record with, and preferably a card with a bunch of ins/outs. so if i run cubase on my pc, and get a layla card, how many ins can i record at once? and how many tracks can cubase handle? are there any superior recording/mixing programs than cubase for pc? > >tomDave , ill let othere comment on the OS, although I think the A is pretty much filled up, and the B is a bit overwelming as is now? but remember, as a recent trip to London reminded me when I played both at Turnkey the XTK is only a 4 octave keyboard, where the virus is 5. Weld Dave Fulton wrote: >Hi, > >I am new to this list and was wondering about overall Virus OS maturity. I have a VirusKB & was thinking about buying another (Or the XTK). But I was wondering just how much farther Access is going to go, and by the same token what about if I pick up a Virus A (they are Cheap now), can we expect further upgrades? > >How much room is left in the ROM for more code? > >Is there any DSP power left? > >How about additional filters? > >What about loopable self triggering envelopes? > >Thanks > >DaveHello again to everyone, What are your thoughts on a destination in the assign menus for an oscillator semitone parameter, preferably one for each of the 3 LFOs? Square waves could be used as the modulator to create simple up/down melodic effects, and the other waveforms could be used for Glissando type effects, amongst many other possibilities (smooth mode would have to be switched to OFF, I would imagine). -Ben Hello: I am currently the owner of a virus A, and I am considering upgrading to a virus KB (I could use another keyboard). Does anyone have any problems with the kb? how good is the keyboard? how is its construction (i.e. would your trust it with your average drunken roadie?). also, how much do they cost? Thanks TonyThe sequence records the knob movements, not all he original settings. You need to incorporate a program change at the beginning of your sequence to recall the original settings, or do it manually on the VIRUS, otherwise when you restart the sequence the VIRUS will be in the same knob state as you left it. -----Original Message----- From: Krwitte@aol.com [SMTP:Krwitte@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:25 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: sounds don't play well, when you play the sequence form the beginning the sounds should sounds as they did before you started tweaking them because the knob moves come afterwards! what i have frequently is that is tweak and record the knobs and then when playing back the sounds don't play or are not audible because of the knob moves i made! Special KThe kbd rocks! in every way ! in the U.s. $1695 from john Mika at Music central, 8th street music, Wasington Music center (James Doerpler). Weld Tony Scharf wrote: >Hello: > >I am currently the owner of a virus A, and I am considering upgrading to a virus KB (I could use another keyboard). Does anyone have any problems with the kb? how good is the keyboard? how is its construction (i.e. would your trust it with your average drunken roadie?). also, how much do they cost? > >Thanks >Tony>This may seem a hackneyed solution but i HATE the pop when you turn the beast off.. Yeah... i remember the future music review of the virus a, where this was mentioned as domething like "I'll charge access for my speaker repairments if this goes on much longer!!". But, it didn't deserve a lousy 75%, though!! jon k.heya well... the digi001 is good yes it is but: first: it s to expensive. you do not only pay for the hardware you pay for pro tools le... and second: 6 of the 8 outs do only have -10dBv and that s lousy! ok you may push a +4dBu button on your mixer but do you have one? i think it s a nice system but would prefer kind of a motu-solution or (much cheaper) the delta 1010 from midiman. all three cards sound pretty fine so decide: 1. midiman/delta1010 600$ 2. digidesign/digi001 1150$ 2. a motu card 1500$ - 2500$ ... i d buy the delta... ciao kanouTony: I am a recent purchaser of the Virus Kb. I must say the keyboard construction and feel is superb. Very playable. Almost buttery. My only complaint is that it did not ship with a power cable so I had to purchase one from a local electronics store. I was told by the music retailer (8th St. Music) that the US distributor was aware of the problem. As far as drunken roadies...dunno...anything can be broken in the WRONG hands. However, the casing seems extremely sturdy, well engineered, and carefully assembled. I use my Virus Kb as my master controller and have experienced no difficulties. In fact, it has performed quite competently. It is a SOLID piece of technology, inside and out. You ought to be pleased should you decide to purchase one. Best Regards, Griffin >From: "Tony Scharf" Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:58:35 -0600 >To: "Access List (E-mail)" Subject: Virus KB > >Hello: > >I am currently the owner of a virus A, and I am considering upgrading to a virus KB (I could use another keyboard). Does anyone have any problems with the kb? how good is the keyboard? how is its construction (i.e. would your trust it with your average drunken roadie?). also, how much do they cost? > >Thanks >Tony > Hmmm...I just inquired a week ago about the VirusKB from Music Central and they said it was $1495??? email them and find out for yourself: vco@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral Peace, ed >The kbd rocks! in every way ! >in the U.s. $1695 from john Mika at Music central, 8th street music, Wasington >Music center (James Doerpler). >Weld > >Tony Scharf wrote: > >>Hello: >> >>I am currently the owner of a virus A, and I am considering upgrading to a >>virus KB (I could use another keyboard). Does anyone have any problems with >>the kb? how good is the keyboard? how is its construction (i.e. would your >>trust it with your average drunken roadie?). also, how much do they cost? >> >>Thanks >>Tony > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your FREE FlashMail Address now at http://www.flashmail.com It's Free, Easy, & Fun !!!I was checking out the delta 1010 and it retails for $999 (same as 001) While it does have a little more head room, 96khz support, and +4 operation, it does not have adat lightpipe, 2 built in mic pre, latency as low as 2.9 milliseconds THRU software (as compared to 550 milliseconds thru VST). Did I mention that it comes with a piece of software that simply blows the pants of of any other multi-track audio package. PT is the top choice of most audio professionals. While PTLE is a home studio version, it is essencially the same beast. I must continue to express that, as far as multi-track software goes, PT just can't be beat. I personally don't need +4 operation considering everything I have plugged in to the unit operate at -10 anyway. I also don't need the headache of trying to get my software/and hardware to operate without trouble. I like the "mac-like" approach that a hardware/software combo provides. It's total integration baby! PT is also considerable more solid that VST, but I don't really know about logic. Wheither it only has 98 db headroom or -10 inputs, IMHO, it simply sounds great!And taking my project to a MixPlus system could not have been simpler. Can't say that bout VST, etc. Anyway, I'll jump of the box now. BTW: I payed $850 for my 001 in Dallas... Rick >heya > >well... > >the digi001 is good yes it is but: > >first: it s to expensive. you do not only pay for the hardware you pay for pro tools le... >and second: 6 of the 8 outs do only have -10dBv and that s lousy! ok you may push a +4dBu button on your mixer but do you have one? > >i think it s a nice system but would prefer kind of a motu-solution or (much cheaper) the delta 1010 from midiman. > >all three cards sound pretty fine so decide: > >1. midiman/delta1010 600$ >2. digidesign/digi001 1150$ >2. a motu card 1500$ - 2500$ > >... i d buy the delta... > >ciao > >kanou > Rick Reyes wrote: > >Did I mention that it comes with a piece of software that simply blows the pants of of any other multi-track audio package. PT is the top choice of most audio professionals. While PTLE is a home studio version, it is essencially the same beast. I must continue to express that, as far as multi-track software goes, PT just can't be beat. so do you use the PTLE? how exactly does it compare to the full version of PT, cause ive heard only good things about pro tools? >I personally don't need +4 operation considering everything I have plugged in to the unit operate at -10 anyway. okay, im more than just a little dense, but what exactly is the difference? >PT is also considerable more solid that VST, but I don't really know about logic. thats one of the reasons i was hoping to find a PT based solution, but everyhting ive seen is ultra expensive,and i dont have that kinda $$$. >Wheither it only has 98 db headroom okay, i dont exactly understand this headroom thing, either. please explain.... tomhuummm, that if im not mistakin is a price on the Virusb module, not kbd? weld freqdafunk@flashmail.com wrote: >Hmmm...I just inquired a week ago about the VirusKB from Music Central and they said it was $1495??? >email them and find out for yourself: vco@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral > >Peace, >ed > >>The kbd rocks! in every way ! >>in the U.s. $1695 from john Mika at Music central, 8th street music, Wasington > >>Music center (James Doerpler). >>Weld >> >>Tony Scharf wrote: >> >>>Hello: >>> >>>I am currently the owner of a virus A, and I am considering upgrading to >a >>>virus KB (I could use another keyboard). Does anyone have any problems with > >>>the kb? how good is the keyboard? how is its construction (i.e. would your > >>>trust it with your average drunken roadie?). also, how much do they cost? > >>> >>>Thanks >>>Tony >> >> >> > >______________________________________________________ Get Your FREE FlashMail Address now at http://www.flashmail.com It's Free, Easy, & Fun !!!list, I was playing around with SoundForge and my sampler last night, and created an oscillator sample that looks like this: /| /| /| / | / | / | / | /------/ | /------/ | /- | / | / | / |/ |/ |/ |------| <- frequency of sawtooth wave |-------------| <- sample length I guess the length of the wave itself is half that of the waveform as a whole (if that makes any sense). Compare that with a regular sawtooth wave: /| /| / | / | / | / | | / | / | / | / |/ |/ | | <- length of both the sawtooth and the sample see how there are 1-wavelength periods of silence at each zero-crossing in the top picture? I guess it's similar to PWM, but with a more complex wave. Regardless, it sounds FAT. Anyone have any ideas how to make this with a Virus? My Akai does pretty well with the sample (especially when combined with a sine wave an octave down) ... but it would be more fun to do it on the Virus. thx -zsHey everybody, I think I'd like to upgrade to the Virus Kb. Any suggestions on how much I should sell my Virus A for? Thanks, -ArtIn a message dated 3/30/00 3:19:51 PM, artman@seattleu.edu writes: >I think I'd like to upgrade to the Virus Kb. Any suggestions on how much I should sell my Virus A for? About $800-900US. -MarshallI bought my Virus A on ebay for $850. This was in January. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim, Arthur To: Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: Virus A for sale >Hey everybody, > >I think I'd like to upgrade to the Virus Kb. Any suggestions on how much I >should sell my Virus A for? > >Thanks, >-ArtI cant think of any way to get the virus to do this. I always used my old Korg DSS-1, which allowed wave form drawing to acomplish this (something new synths should have, but the dont - very sad). tony -----Original Message----- From: zs@yahoo-inc.com [mailto:zs@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:10 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: half-period waves list, I was playing around with SoundForge and my sampler last night, and created an oscillator sample that looks like this: /| /| /| / | / | / | / | /------/ | /------/ | /- | / | / | / |/ |/ |/ |------| <- frequency of sawtooth wave |-------------| <- sample length I guess the length of the wave itself is half that of the waveform as a whole (if that makes any sense). Compare that with a regular sawtooth wave: /| /| / | / | / | / | | / | / | / | / |/ |/ | | <- length of both the sawtooth and the sample see how there are 1-wavelength periods of silence at each zero-crossing in the top picture? I guess it's similar to PWM, but with a more complex wave. Regardless, it sounds FAT. Anyone have any ideas how to make this with a Virus? My Akai does pretty well with the sample (especially when combined with a sine wave an octave down) ... but it would be more fun to do it on the Virus. thx -zsyour in it till death buddyHmm, that sounds fair. Any buyers out there? I also have the rack-ears for it. -Art -----Original Message----- From: Marzzz@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: 3/30/00 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Virus A for sale In a message dated 3/30/00 3:19:51 PM, artman@seattleu.edu writes: >I think I'd like to upgrade to the Virus Kb. Any suggestions on how much >I should sell my Virus A for? About $800-900US. -MarshallHi, >Does anyone have any problems with >the kb? how good is the keyboard? how is its construction (i.e. would your trust it with your average drunken roadie?). Build quality: great Keyboard: great Mod and pitch wheels: great One negative thing: the transpose doesn't work on midi (yet). It works on internal sounds but not for controller other midi octaves. Rather unhandy, so I'm hoping this might be changed in the future. All in all: wonderful machine. You'll never regret owning one! :) Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysHey peoples, Are the Virus Kb keys semi-weighted like a Korg Z1? -Art -----Original Message----- From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: 3/30/00 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Virus KB Hi, >Does anyone have any problems with >the kb? how good is the keyboard? how is its construction (i.e. would your >trust it with your average drunken roadie?). Build quality: great Keyboard: great Mod and pitch wheels: great One negative thing: the transpose doesn't work on midi (yet). It works on internal sounds but not for controller other midi octaves. Rather unhandy, so I'm hoping this might be changed in the future. All in all: wonderful machine. You'll never regret owning one! :) Bye, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysMy friend has found a dealer in the U.S. with virus kbds for $1475 email me privately if youd like the info Cheers WeldYEs, I synching the Virus b with Cubase. I'm using Cubase 4.1 on a Mac with Opcode's Studio 128x CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >In einer eMail vom 29.03.00 16:39:27 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Has any one ever notice a crackling noise produced from the delay fx? >> >>The one thing that I have come to conclusion is that the Virus's delay quality is not at par with other synths and DSP units. It's frail at this. >> >>I'd have to learn how to program a decent delay with out that terrible crackling! ;-\ > >Is your Virus receiving midi clock for the delay? I guess the clicks are caused by sysex messages that prevent your sequencer from sending stable midi clocks, or your sequencer has a very unstable timing. Is this the case? > >-ChristophHi Dan, >Also Paddy (or any who feel like answering), does the MIDI Time Piece give you better MIDI timing? I would imagine timing is rock solid eh? Actually, it's probably not very good. The best interfaces for timing are Emagic's Unitor8 and AMT8 especially with Logic Audio... Or alternatively, MOTU interfaces supporting MTS (MIDI time-stamping) in conjuction with MOTU's sequencer MTS support. However this technology is very new and I'm not sure if the sequencer MTS support is ready. Cheers, ThomasHi people, >Many people consider Logic platinum to be superior to Cubase. Which may be true, but really they are quite close. Logic is considered more difficult by some which may be a factor. Logic has better MIDI timing. Crisp grooves vs mushy grooves? Logic is more reliable, though has smaller range of compatible audio hardware. Logic has much better audio FX - professional plugins rather than toys. Logic is a bit more complex. But much faster & ergonomically better after a week of experience. I bought Cubase VST first... Cheers, ThomasHi Rick, >I was checking out the delta 1010 and it retails for $999 (same as 001) >it does not have adat lightpipe, 2 built in mic pre, latency as low as 2.9 milliseconds THRU software (as compared to 550 milliseconds thru VST). I'd expect the Delta latency could be cranked down to 10 or 15 ms, possibly lower. Is that 550 ms with obsolete MME drivers? But no preamps on it. You'd need a separate small mixer, discrete preamps, or something like that to go with the Delta. Cheers, Thomascould u please give me the dimensions to the virus b in inches.. i wish we used metric sometimes..! i am waiting on my rack version and trying to setup my studio arrangement to ingest this center piece.... btw the virus is back ordered so i have about a 2 week wait.. please include depth*height*width thnx>Hi Dan, > >>Also Paddy (or any who feel like answering), does the MIDI Time Piece give you better MIDI timing? I would imagine timing is rock solid eh? > >Actually, it's probably not very good. > >The best interfaces for timing are Emagic's Unitor8 and AMT8 especially with >Logic Audio... > >Or alternatively, MOTU interfaces supporting MTS (MIDI time-stamping) in conjuction with MOTU's sequencer MTS support. However this technology is very new and I'm not sure if the sequencer MTS support is ready. > > >Cheers, >Thomas Hi there, Well I will certainly check out the other brands, thanks for the suggestions! Dan The Burke www.mp3.com/nukleonAccess Virus B For Sale I'm selling my Access Virus B (I need a new computer...) in excellent shape. Latest OS, power supply and manuals. Packed well and shipped UPS, for $1000 plus $10 shipping from Charlottesville, Virginia. Mathias Tornqvist mathias@cstone.netI'm sure you have received replies already, but if it's still for sale please let me know! I can be reached at 702-429-3711. Thank you! Regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Mathias Tornqvist To: Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:32 PM Subject: Access Virus B For Sale Access Virus B For Sale I'm selling my Access Virus B (I need a new computer...) in excellent shape. Latest OS, power supply and manuals. Packed well and shipped UPS, for $1000 plus $10 shipping from Charlottesville, Virginia. Mathias Tornqvist mathias@cstone.net Thanks for your answers...it works better now! although it's not perfect yet... did I understand you right? If I have 1kick and 2 hihats playing at the same time, I have to change the phase for every patch to 1 (for instance)? Or do I have change them to 1/2/3? I tried both, but as I sayed, it's not 100% ok...sometimes one note of the kick seems to be twice as loud as it should be... greetz Michael >That's interesting. I haven't seen the problem yet cos usually I use LFOs for envelopes. Perhaps I will try using the the filter env tonight. > >norsez > >--- Oliver wrote: >>thats the way it works , when it works . there are several types of >>drums which still are unstable when the virus is used in multi single >>mode and several parts play at the same time . These critical drums all seem to be programed with a fast filter >>envelope , so when you program drum sounds try to avoid filter envelopes >>. >> >> >>Oliver >> >>Norsez Orankijanan schrieb: >> >>>That is the first question I asked on the list >>when I >>>got my Virus b :) The answer is for each drum >>sound, >>>you need to change the osc phase to anything else, >>but >>>'off' so that the oscillator will begin at the >>same >>>phase everything you hit the key. >>> >>>norsez >>> >>>--- Zolliker Michael wrote: >>>>Hi! >>>> >>>>I've got the following problem.. >>>>I make 3 tracks on my sequencer (everything on >>the >>>>virus a) >>>>1. 4/4 Kick, 2. 4/4 HitHat (both played at the >>same >>>>time), 3. continuous >>>>bassline >>>> >>>>if i play the sequences, the kick drum doesn't >>sound >>>>equable everytime it's >>>>played. Every 2nd, 3rd or 4th (not constant) the note is played, it's >>>>sounding diffrent for one time. What I'm doing wrong? Has it somthing to do >>>>with the voices? I cant imgine why....Unison and Appregiator are turned off >>>> >>>>Would be very nice if one of you could help >>me... >>>> >>>>Thanx in advance >>>> >>>>greetz >>>>Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com >> >> > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comHi list ! I've put some of my songs on mp3.com and you can hear the Virus on most of them (especially on "Inner Speedway" I've remixed last year with my virus). So if you have time this week-end, just have a look at it. You'll also find 2 interesting links : 1) freon aka Cam, a member of the list and 2)Vectors United, the remix project of the mailing list. Have a nice week-end Fred ____________________________ http://www.worldonline.fr/Sorry... Thought the URL was on already on my signature. Here it is : www.mp3.com/pathfinder ____________________________ http://www.worldonline.fr/>It's in the matrix. Osc1Pitch. > >-Christoph > Correct me if I'm wrong, but you cannot get the kind of effect I'm talking about with this parameter. I would like to be able to get specifically pitched modulations in semitone steps only, not inbetween the semitones. I think I might be able to do something along these lines with the transpose destination, which I will be trying tonight, but it would be much more useful to affect individual oscillators separately. -Bennah , you have to change only the osc phase of the drum , but as said this works always when only the drum is playing . Some sorts of drums (programed with filter envelopes') get unstable again when more parts then only one is playing . So the only thing you can do is to take another drum sound (without fast filter changes) . BTW have you tried my soundset, its called influencia and can be downloaded at the access site , shameless plug as norsez would say . ) Oli Zolliker Michael schrieb: >Thanks for your answers...it works better now! although it's not perfect yet... > >did I understand you right? If I have 1kick and 2 hihats playing at the same time, I have to change >the phase for every patch to 1 (for instance)? Or do I have change them to 1/2/3? >I tried both, but as I sayed, it's not 100% ok...sometimes one note of the kick seems to be twice as loud >as it should be... > >greetz >Michael > > >>That's interesting. I haven't seen the problem yet cos usually I use LFOs for envelopes. Perhaps I will try using the the filter env tonight. >> >>norsez >> >>--- Oliver wrote: >>>thats the way it works , when it works . there are several types of >>>drums which still are unstable when the virus is used in multi single >>>mode and several parts play at the same time . These critical drums all seem to be programed with a fast filter >>>envelope , so when you program drum sounds try to avoid filter envelopes >>>. >>> >>> >>>Oliver >>> >>>Norsez Orankijanan schrieb: >>> >>>>That is the first question I asked on the list >>>when I >>>>got my Virus b :) The answer is for each drum >>>sound, >>>>you need to change the osc phase to anything else, >>>but >>>>'off' so that the oscillator will begin at the >>>same >>>>phase everything you hit the key. >>>> >>>>norsez >>>> >>>>--- Zolliker Michael wrote: >>>>>Hi! >>>>> >>>>>I've got the following problem.. >>>>>I make 3 tracks on my sequencer (everything on >>>the >>>>>virus a) >>>>>1. 4/4 Kick, 2. 4/4 HitHat (both played at the >>>same >>>>>time), 3. continuous >>>>>bassline >>>>> >>>>>if i play the sequences, the kick drum doesn't >>>sound >>>>>equable everytime it's >>>>>played. Every 2nd, 3rd or 4th (not constant) the note is played, it's >>>>>sounding diffrent for one time. What I'm doing wrong? Has it somthing to do >>>>>with the voices? I cant imgine why....Unison and Appregiator are turned off >>>>> >>>>>Would be very nice if one of you could help >>>me... >>>>> >>>>>Thanx in advance >>>>> >>>>>greetz >>>>>Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>>>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com >>> >>> >> >>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comtry it with a square lfo modulating pitch between 0 and +1 semitone and modulating lfo1 with lfo 2 with a saw . not sure if it works like you want it . but worth a try oli Cranes Music schrieb: >>It's in the matrix. Osc1Pitch. >> >>-Christoph >> > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but you cannot get the kind of effect I'm talking about with this parameter. I would like to be able to get specifically pitched modulations in semitone steps only, not inbetween the semitones. I think I might be >able to do something along these lines with the transpose destination, which I will be trying tonight, but it would be much more useful to affect individual oscillators separately. > >-BenWhy not step write the osc the knob values into your sequencer. You might be able to get a S/H LFO type effect with specific pitches. While it may be cumbersome to write ( not in PTLE :-) ), it should sound cool... Rick > >>It's in the matrix. Osc1Pitch. >> >>-Christoph >> > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but you cannot get the kind of effect I'm talking about with this parameter. I would like to be able to get specifically pitched modulations in semitone steps only, not inbetween the semitones. I think I might be >able to do something along these lines with the transpose destination, which >I will be trying tonight, but it would be much more useful to affect individual oscillators separately. > >-Ben 3523713571 call me thanksI agree, to be complete it would be nice to have it for local, midi, or both, all selectable per patch or globally. Weld Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >Hi Christoph, > >>*the* transpose is patch transpose. Of course we have a Keyboard transpose that works on midi as well. > >What I meant is: it would be great if *the* transpose buttons could be assigned to the midi transpose instead of the patch transpose, since it would then be much more useful when people use the Viurus KB as master keyboard. If it's possible, and if you have the time, it'd be great if this wish could become reality. It's rather unhandy right now. > >Greetings, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > >http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysOn Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:27:40 +0100, "Cranes Music" wrote: >Correct me if I'm wrong, but you cannot get the kind of effect I'm talking about with this parameter. I would like to be able to get specifically pitched modulations in semitone steps only, You need to patch in the note quantizer module. Ah, not the Nord Modular list right? ;-) Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.softroom.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ha! I had the same experience -- I got my Virus KB on Christmas Eve (how appropriate.) and I'm all ready to start playing when I notice there's no power cord! And it's a wierd European two-prong jack, not a North American 3-pin (which would have been no problem). My roommates all heard my cries of anguish 8-). But I hunted around and, wouldn't you know, the power cord from my electric shaver was the same kind of plug. All I had to do was take an x-acto knife and cut some triangular notches on top & bottom of the plug and I was set. I still must go buy another shaver cord -- right now, you can tell if I've been workong on music a lot during the week by my unshaven appearance 8-). Griffin Vance wrote: > >Tony: > >I am a recent purchaser of the Virus Kb. I must say the keyboard construction and feel is superb. Very playable. Almost buttery. My only complaint is that it did not ship with a power cable so I had to purchase one from a local electronics store. I was told by the music retailer (8th St. Music) that the US distributor was aware of the problem.You probably could come up with an effect close to what I was after using this method, but the problems are: 1) It would mean having more sysex coming out of the sequencer, possibly causing timing delays. 2) I would have to know exactly what knob movements to record, which I don't. 3) It would take bloody ages! Setting it up via a mod destination would make the sequence of notes just like playing any other new sound, hopefully resulting in unexpected new melodies and grooves 'falling out of the keyboard'. This is my preferred method of inspiration, and seeing as the osc. semitone can be adjusted in the edit menus, I can't understand why it wouldn't be extremely simple to allow it to be an assignable destination. - Ben. >Why not step write the osc the knob values into your sequencer. You might be >able to get a S/H LFO type effect with specific pitches. While it may be cumbersome to write ( not in PTLE :-) ), it should sound cool... > >RickWhat's the tuning range of the Oscillator modulation amount? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com too funny :^) Russ Magee wrote: >. I still must go buy another >shaver cord -- right now, you can tell if I've been workong on music a lot during the week by my unshaven appearance 8-).