X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 1 10:02:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:56:49 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Notron info WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! In a discussion about sequencers the virus we talked about the Notron. I just received some information on the notron with a picure of it. Their site is at www.notron.con, but there's not much informatiobn yet. If someone wants this html page and the picture, mail me privately at di-mi@dds.nl. Dimitri. ----- n8.gif 92Kb V2guide.htm 92Kb zipped 115Kb ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 1 12:55:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:19:24 +0100 From: "J–rn" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: SysEx Problems Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "J–rn" Hi everybody, I'm a proud sufferer of the most interesting Virus I ever had - I just love it! Unfortunately, I had to spend the last 2 days with strange SysEx dump data....my head is just aching. The Arrangement Dumps I made were always messed up a bit - 2 or 4 bits were lost, sometimes there were PolyPressure data in between - complete chaos!!! Finally, I found out that it's neither the Virus nor LogicAudio that f....s the data; it was the good old EWS64 - people, don't ever think of buying that card, it has more bugs than Win95/98 (everybody in the EWS mailing list will agree)! A cheap SB16 finally got it alright, so, what the f... Nevertheless, now that I'm a little into this SysEx data stuff, I'd really like to know more about it. Can somebody give me a complete overview over the data in a SingleDump block, MultiDump block, Arrangement block and all the rest? I'd be very glad to get it, because e.g. I'd like to take out only 1 block of the 48 banksounds of Crawfish's soundbank. And, finally (!), just another question: What speed do you use when updating the system of the Virus with LogicAudio? -After I had 3 crashes I got down to 40 bpm - took me almost an hour! Thanks in advance KIT ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 1 14:29:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:25:25 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:SysEx Problems WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Jörn schreef: >* From "Jörn" > Hi everybody, >I'm a proud sufferer of the most interesting Virus I ever had - I just >love it! Congratulations! Join the club! >f....s the data; it was the good old EWS64 - people, don't ever think of >buying that card, it has more bugs than Win95/98 (everybody in the EWS >mailing list will agree)! A cheap SB16 finally got it alright, so, what >the f... yes, my SB16ASP used to do it well too.. but now not anymore. I susect win95 to mess it all up. I think a PC and MIDI sysex is jut not the best solution. But i don't complain, I should buy a hardware sequencer or a Mac. >And, finally (!), just another question: What speed do you use when >updating the system of the Virus with LogicAudio? -After I had 3 crashes >I got down to 40 bpm - took me almost an hour! Some people get the job done at 255 BPM with e.g. the sequencer for linux and win95 'Jazz' (shareware at www.jazz.com). For sending/receiving MIDI .SYX files, I suggest to use the easy-and-dumb MDF.EXE (try FTP-search). I've written a 4dos batch-file which receives a dump twice, compares them, and stores them if the files are the same. That's how I discovered that lately, the dumps are never the same.. :-( But then again, I should have better hardware. Good luck! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 1 16:23:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:18:43 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com For the record, Arrangement dumps don't work on an Opcode 64x running with VisionDsp on a Mac 8100 running MacOS8.5, either. Blake ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 1 19:21:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:02:40 +0100 (NFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:SysEx Problems Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 di-mi@dds.nl wrote: >yes, my SB16ASP used to do it well too.. but now not anymore. I susect win95 to mess it all up. I think a PC and MIDI sysex is jut not the best solution. But i don't complain, I should buy a hardware sequencer or a Mac. ... Yes when i used my ATARI for sequencing i never had such problems concerning MIDI. Also, some PC soundcards need those MIDI adapters (including optoisolators) to guarantee a correct signal transmission. The two cards that i had (have): Terratec Gold 16/96 and TB Montego didn't work properly without the MIDI adapter that i built (instructions at http://www.hut.fi/~timop/Pinnacle/midiadap.htm, but you should be able to buy one as well). Even an adapter cable that i bought for DM 40,- didn't have the electronics in it that i thought it would have... Hagen PS: One question... is there a possibility to realize a volume keyfollow with the Virus?! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 1 22:05:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:00:36 +0100 From: "J–rn" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jörn" again Hi everybody, I'm quite glad to know that there are people who care for my problems, thanks to all of you! Yet, actually, when I wrote the message this morning, I was a little too enthusiastic about the SB16 and everything going to be alright.... :-( The SysEx dump is the same way messed up as it was with the EWS64. So I called TSI, and you know what they said? -"Oh, bad luck that you have a PC. Win98 and PC sound hardware don't work together too well. Sorry that we can't help you." Do they want to tell me that everybody is working with a Mac? -Do YOU, everybody? (I can't imagine) Damnit, I'm not going to buy me a Mac, so probably I'll have to repair any bulk dump sent to Logic....it's gonna be great fun, I guess, and very creative, too. Do you think the game/mpu-401 port of usual PC soundcards is too slow for the quite fast Arrange dump the Virus fires out? If so, is there a way to slow down the Virus or speed up the mpu-401 port? Hope, I'm not getting on your nerves, but mine are so wrecked after the last 3-day-session with no success that I need a shoulder to cry on or even better, a solution to the SysEx problem. Thank you again for being so helpful Jörn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 00:16:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:08:38 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Jorn, I'm using a Mac and my Arrangement dumps don't work. It's the Virus, not the PC. B << Do they want to tell me that everybody is working with a Mac? -Do YOU, everybody? (I can't imagine) >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 01:00:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:00:16 +0100 From: "J–rn" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: IRC, chit-chat, ... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jörn" Hi everybody, ye, me again....just a short question (unusual, he?!): Anyone of you fine guys on IRC, is there a "Viruschannel"? -Or can I meet you on some not so specific channel? CU Jörn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 02:30:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:17:21 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: Access List Problem Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Subject: Yahoo! Club for the Access Virus > >I created a Yahoo! Club for the Virus. You need to register with My Yahoo! to gain entrance to the club but this is free. > >The club allows for unlimited message posting as well as links, photos, news, Java-based chat and more -- all for free. I thought it would be nice to have an alternate message board for Virus posts. Perhaps we can post big news items to the mailing list and also to the club so that people who missed the email will have an alternate source for the information. Also, if you folks do not have a regular chat site, you can > >use this to get together at a specific time of day and "talk Virus" in real time. Anything is possible. It's also freely editable so you can add your own links and pictures to it. It's like a community homepage for the Virus. > >Yes, I do work for Yahoo! but I did not create this club for business. We have millions of users so a few dozen synthesizer addicts are not going to make a difference. I don't care if you ever click on an advertisement but I think this club has a lot of possibilities. > >Here is the URL: > >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/accessviruscentral > >There isn't much there right now but feel free to add whatever you want. > >Feel free to email me if you have any problems getting logged on to it. > >Aaron Johnston >masona@yahoo-inc.com > > > >-- >Aaron Johnston >Yahoo, Inc. > >the science makes you weak. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 02:48:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 02:45:44 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >you have a PC. Win98 and PC sound hardware don't work together too well. Sorry that we can't help you." Do they want to tell me that everybody is working with a Mac? -Do YOU, everybody? (I can't imagine) I have a Win95 PC here with Cubase3.0 and an Ensoniq Soundscape. Everything works fine. I must admit that my old creamware triple DAT card, which I use as digital I/O cannot handle SysEx data without errors. Guido Kirsch Soundcard Education Center access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 08:01:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:59:18 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: IRC, chit-chat, ... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Hello! Let's give it a try: I opened a sub-space channel on IRC, called virus! And I am the operator! :-) I am not at IRC today, So, the channel name is "virus!". Dimitri Op Tue, 2 Feb 1999, J–rn schreef: >* From "J–rn" > >Hi everybody, >ye, me again....just a short question (unusual, he?!): Anyone of you fine guys on IRC, is there a "Viruschannel"? -Or can I meet you on some not so specific channel? CU J–rn > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 08:03:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:01:57 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Access List Problem Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Hmmm, sound interesting too. Well, my I'll keep the IRC channel open, and see which you all prefer! Op Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Jay Vaughan schreef: >* From Jay Vaughan > >>Subject: Yahoo! Club for the Access Virus >> >>I created a Yahoo! Club for the Virus. You need to register with My Yahoo! to gain entrance to the club but this is free. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 13:44:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:36:32 +0100 To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Ver 2.0 pdf files X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi to everybody! At TSi you can download the Ver 2.0 pdf manual addendum and the latest Sysex documantation for the virus. Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 14:04:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:05:25 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Ver 2.0 pdf files Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:36 PM +0100 on 02.02.1999 Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > >Hi to everybody! > >At TSi you can download the Ver 2.0 pdf manual addendum and the latest Sysex documantation for the virus. and on my site as well: look for the documentation page and there they are... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 14:20:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:20:10 +0200 From: "Sebastian Nyberg" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Sebastian Nyberg" Guido Kirsch wrote: >I have a Win95 PC here with Cubase3.0 and an Ensoniq Soundscape. Everything works fine. >I must admit that my old creamware triple DAT card, which I use as digital I/O cannot handle SysEx data without errors. Check the sequencer you're using too if you're having sysex dump/receive problems. I've heard some very nasty words about all Cakewalk versions, and good words about Cubase. Isn't it possible to get a Cubase demo for free from the web and use it just for sysex dumps? Sebastian ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 15:28:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:05:21 +0100 (NFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Sebastian Nyberg wrote: >* From "Sebastian Nyberg" > >Isn't it possible to get a Cubase demo for free from the web and use it just for sysex dumps? The demo version i had could load but not save. I use Cubase 3.5, and despite the fact that this version is extremely buggy i had no problems sending the latest OS to the Virus or dumping Single sounds from the Virus. Hagen PS: Though, my question remains... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 20:37:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:06:21 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther Hi! I'm back again - a friend managed to kill both my Hotmail- and GMX-Mailboxes by posting some scanned JPEG's from my band - 14 MB!!! He even called me and asked me why I was having problems with GMX again. Just something to think about, you spammers out there. ;-) --- I think I'm missing a small feature on the virus. When using LFOs theat are synced to MIDI-clock (I use this quite often) I'm never so lucky that the Virus syncs to the beginning of the bar. It syncs to somewhere in between which leads to very strange effects. Sometimes it really kills the rhythm. So what about a controller that I could send once on the beginning of a bar, so that the Virus knows where the bar starts??? Or is there another way of syncing in Logic? Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 17:53:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: OFF TOPIC : amek big mixing console for sale Date: Tue, 2 Feb 99 17:52:07 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" , "Betalist" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz hi folx, excuse the abuse of the list... :=) hope its not too wrong..... AMEK BIG BY LANGLEY mixing console 44 chn inline 8 stereo eff.ret. including AMEK SUPERTRUE AUTOMATION VERS. 3.0 + REMOTE-HOST (486 pc) 4 years old F O R S A L E . 22 000 dollar (including shipping,if nessesary) desk is in good condition (always in non-smoke-area) thought someone of u might need it..... greetings ,nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 22:47:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: dont read..just testing.... Date: Tue, 2 Feb 99 22:46:22 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 23:11:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: dont read ...... just testing........ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 99 23:11:09 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz yep --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 00:25:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:21:02 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: dont read ...... just testing........ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck yepyepyep OK, it works ! :-) Nico Herz wrote: >* From Nico Herz > >Nico Herz wrote : > >yepyep > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>no lowcut studios< >nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de > > >"may the sound be with you" > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 2 23:50:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: dont read ...... just testing........ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 99 23:49:54 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Nico Herz wrote : yepyep --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 01:07:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:02:59 +0100 From: "J–rn" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jörn" >Hagen > >PS: Though, my question remains... > I don't there is a function that works like this, but you can use the Edit>Velocity>Volume (+63), then it's only a question of how hard you hit it. But anyway, I think it would be a good idea to put it on the wishlist! CU Jörn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 01:07:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:04:49 +0100 From: "J–rn" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jörn" Guido Kirsch schrieb: >* From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) > >>you have a PC. Win98 and PC sound hardware don't work together too well. Sorry that we can't help you." Do they want to tell me that everybody is working with a Mac? -Do YOU, everybody? (I can't imagine) > >I have a Win95 PC here with Cubase3.0 and an Ensoniq Soundscape. Everything works fine. >I must admit that my old creamware triple DAT card, which I use as digital I/O cannot handle SysEx data without errors. > >Guido Kirsch >Soundcard Education Center >access music electronics > How fast is your machine? Maybe my P-166 is too slow via the ISA bus?CU Jörn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 02:46:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: dont read ...... just testing........ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 99 02:44:51 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote : >OK, it works ! :-) :=)))))))))))))))))))) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 08:47:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: fd@mitgmbh.de Subject: Re: Clicking problems To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: 03 Feb 99 07:45:18 UT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: normal X-David-Sym: 0 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi, >Hi, >I am experimenting problems when I am using the Vocoder in Multi mode, it seems like the other sounds of the multi are full of clicks. Anyone ?? > >Dimitri II I had the same problem this week. This effect seems to be very strange, because the clicks even occur when the Vocoder part was DISABLED in Multi mode. After I set the multi part to another program (A00), the clicks disappear. FranzX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 09:22:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:18:47 +0100 Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:04:49 +0100, Jörn wrote: >>I have a Win95 PC here with Cubase3.0 and an Ensoniq Soundscape. Everything works fine. >>I must admit that my old creamware triple DAT card, which I use as digital I/O cannot handle SysEx data without errors. >> >>Guido Kirsch >>Soundcard Education Center >>access music electronics >> > >How fast is your machine? Maybe my P-166 is too slow via the ISA bus?CU Jörn For simple 31,25 KBaud ? Rather not. The ISA-Bus is much slower than the P166 and always operating with the same clock rate. I can't tell wether the VIRUS has problems receiving SYSEX. The Sound card (or its driver software), however, is always a possible source for errors. I once had an original Creative Soundblaster which messed up incoming and outgoing data (result: hanging notes). I replaced it with an original Roland MPU401 card (should be available 2nd to 5th hand) and everything worked just fine. You can test this easily: Plug your MIDI out to your MIDI in, record MIDI while sending _continuous_ data and compare both sent and received data sets. CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 15:23:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:04:52 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >How fast is your machine? Maybe my P-166 is too slow via the ISA bus? It's an Intel 200MMX, so not much faster than yours. >CU Jörn CPU Guido Kirsch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 19:19:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: SysEx Problems still Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:19:10 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) > >>How fast is your machine? Maybe my P-166 is too slow via the ISA bus? > >It's an Intel 200MMX, so not much faster than yours. :-) I'm updating with a 486 laptop with windows 3.11 and it works. Got the Midiman Portman midi-interface. Later! Marcel ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 21:01:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:58:40 +0100 From: "J–rg Wessels" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Problems still Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jörg Wessels" Jörn schrieb: >Sorry that we can't help you." Do they want to tell me that everybody is working with a Mac? -Do YOU, everybody? (I can't imagine) I use a PC with Logic Audio Gold 3.6 and a EES PC-MIDI 1/4. My Sysex-Dumps work fine. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 3 21:32:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:30:07 +0100 From: "J–rg Wessels" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Clicking problems Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jörg Wessels" Dimitri TIKOVOI schrieb: > >* From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" > >Hi, >I am experimenting problems when I am using the Vocoder in Multi mode, it seems like the other sounds of the multi are full of clicks. Anyone ?? > >Dimitri II > Hi Dimitri II! Here is an old (from last December) message from Christoph: CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: > >Ok, guys, I found the bug! > >The Virus does not reset one special system variable for the vocoder, after powering up. >The result is that the vocoder engine is not announced in the system, even though it is switched on. >The results are obvious power overflows. > >There is an easy workaround: >If the Virus does clicks due to this problem, simply move the Vocoder-Bands knob, which is the filters envelope RELEASE knob on the part that runs the Vocoder. > >Once this parameter is touched, the system variable is correctly reset, and the Virus should work properly, until you power down. > >This can be automated by program changes: simply switch to another Vocoder sound and then switch back. >To make this work, this second Vocoder sound must have a *different* Vocoder- Band-Qantity setting (RELEASE). > >This bug will be fixed in the next OS. > >Thanks for your help > >Christoph Kemper >access music Hope this helps. Jörg ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 00:44:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Velocity assign Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:36:00 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >I don't there is a function that works like this, but you can use the Edit>Velocity>Volume (+63), then it's only a question of how hard you hit it. I'd like to be able to map note velocity to a full range of destinations, preferably by having it as an Assign source. The fixed velocity mappings are one of the least flexible features of the Virus. For designing expressive patches, where the sound character depends upon the keyboard action... useful for melodic leads & irregular funky rhythms. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 03:20:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:22:28 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Help me make a buying decision Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam Hi all. I've been lurking on this list for a few months now, because I've been thinking about buying a Virus ever since reading the review of it in Keyboard magazine. Spending $2000+ on anything is a really major expenditure for me, though, so still have a couple of questions before I decide what to buy. Here goes: 1. Does the virus have its own distinctive sound? I mean, in twenty years will keyboard reviews say things like "the Ultramegatron nailed the TB-303 sound, but came up short on the Virus emulators"? 2. Is there a real problem with the Virus crashing? I've seen lots of letters talking about the Virus going t**s-up at the worst possible times (ie in a live playing situation). 3. How does the Virus compare with the Nord Modular? I've been reading a lot about that one too and it seems pretty versatile. What made you people buy it over the other synths available? Thanks for any help you can offer, Clockwork Cameron Visit the official Clockwork website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html for some samplings of my original trance compositions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 05:16:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:03:06 -0800 To: music-bar@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com, dspfact-list@teklab.com, fss-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan What follows is a long and lengthy summary of my NAMM experience, for which I have received a lot of requests in the last few days. I'm posting it to the TekLab lists that I feel are appropriate, though I do expect that threads from this post will more than likely make their way to the music-bar as days go by. See http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/ for info on the music-bar. Information in this report is all in my personal, humble opinion. Nothing stated herein is in any way official, and I represent none of the companies discussed in any fashion whatsoever, apart from TekLab, my own business. These are my personal views regarding products I observed during NAMM, and in no way represent any official stance. This report will also be available in full at the following URL: http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/NAMM99.html No portion of this report may be reproduced, re-posted, edited or published in any way without prior written consent from me. This report is Copyright (C) 1999 by Jay Vaughan. TekLab NAMM Report ------------------- This year, the TekLab crew were invited by Yamaha America to attend Summer NAMM, the North American Music Merchants tradeshow extravaganza held twice yearly (Summer and Winter). Summer NAMM is the larger of the two events, and this year it was held here in sunny Los Angeles - a convenient 20 minute drive from the TekLab HQ in Los Feliz. We were guests of Yamaha US this year, partly as thanks for the help we have provided with the various music lists being run from TekLab, and also as a means for us to demonstrate our 3rd party support for Yamaha products and meet the people we needed to meet at Yamaha in order to get our products finished and delivered. TekLab Stuff ============ The A3kDisky Demo - What Happened --------------------------------- We were initially intending to exhibit our products - The TekLab A3k Wizard Sample CD Series, and of course A3kDisky for the Yamaha A3000 Sampler, and for the majority of last week I worked day and night in order to try and get A3kDisky ready for demo, even skipping the first day of NAMM (Thursday) to continue working on resolving a major bug in the new file system access routines that was preventing A3kDisky from working at all. However, there simply wasn't time to get it fully debugged before we had to hit the floor, so rather than run the risk of demo'ing A3kDisky in its unstable state, we opted to not set up a full demo of it within Yamaha's professional product demonstration area. This is, sadly, an unfortunate consequence for us because a lot of people within Yamaha were eager to see it. It has to be said that my **primary focus** in A3kDisky development for the last month has been to get it *fully* ready to ship to our customers - and any work done to make a 'demo-able' version for Yamaha would have been better spent getting the actual last bugs fixed so it can be shipped straight away. In my opinion, anyway. So it was, that on Friday of NAMM I humbly reported to the various Yamaha contacts from Japan, USA, UK, Scandinavia, and EU, that I was not going to demo A3kDisky for them, and would instead be shipping them the final product at the same time that it ships to all TekLab customers. This was actually met with relatively positive feedback from Yamaha - a lot of the Yamaha sales and marketing people that I met regarded this as a difficult decision for me to have made, but a good one - certainly, Yamaha knows what its like to have to keep the wraps on a product before it's considered *fully* ready for final demo and customer release (witness the SU700, etc). And in many cases it was just exciting to finally put a face to the entity known as "TekLab" and "those guys that run the Internet support group for the A3000 Sampler". A3kDisky represents a substantial benefit both to A3k users, as well as the Sample CD manufacturer industry, and of course it is highly regarded by Yamaha as a product worth developing correctly the first time. So they were very gracious about granting me some leeway in postponing the demo release to them. The TekLab A3k Wizard Sample CD's --------------------------------- We *DID* hand out demo copies of the TekLab A3k Wizard CD Series to a lot of Yamaha reps responsible for distribution and sales in their respective areas, and in fact we have established a relationship with Yamaha to handle worldwide distribution of our CD's in the coming weeks. These CD's, by the way, are shipping to our customers this week. A quick note to those who have ordered the TekLab A3k Wizard CD's: ------------------------------------------------------------------ I humbly thank you for your patience, and I believe that when you get these excellent products in your hands and in your A3000's, you'll agree with me that they were worth the wait. There is no other A3k-specific Sample CD out there (and I've seen them all, believe me) that even comes close to matching the work that Frank, Jono and Oscar have done on producing a superlative sample library that puts the A3k to *REAL* use. This is not just "TekLab wanting to sell CD's" here, from my personal perspective these CD's are an excellent addition to A3000's everywhere because they're not just collections of a few transferred samples here and there - they are, in fact, complete production solutions for the song-writer that demonstrate the power of the A3000 as a synthesis engine. Anyway, like I said, they're shipping to you this week. I look forward to hearing your individual opinions. NAMM Stuff ========== New Gear from Yamaha -------------------- Yamaha released a number of interesting products at NAMM this year, and while I didn't get as much time as I wanted to play with a lot of it, I did get some initial impressions that may be worth something to some of you. RM1X Remix sequencer: http://www.yamaha.co.uk/synth/html/current/midiseq/d_rm1x.htm Those of you that have been on the TekLab mailing lists for a while know that I am a *big* proponent of dedicated hardware sequencing/song composition. I've often been referred to as the "QY700 Fanatic", and rightly so - the QY700 is an excellent way of getting creative in the modern music studio, unhindered by PC/Mac related problems such as application crashes, e-mail, the web, etc. :) Yamaha's new hardware sequencer product, the RM1X Remix Sequencer, gives me even *more* reason to be anti-computer in the sequencing department. Designed as a "remix" sequencer for the electronic dance music and DJ crowd, it really shines. I've already posted a mini- review of the RM1X to the various relevant TekLab lists, and I've made this review available on my personal web site for those who have missed it: http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/gear/rm1x.html I'll be receiving an RM1X here at TekLab shortly, and will be using the qy-list as a forum for my discoveries with this new instrument - and I also look forward to hearing from other musicians and DJ's that have integrated the RM1X with their live performance acts in the near future! (I know that Zebedee (Medusa) is getting one for his live stuff too...) SU700 Phrase Sampler http://www.yamaha.co.uk/synth/html/current/samplers/d_su700.htm Okay, I'll have to say right here and now that I really didn't play with this one as much as I should have, given that I've been raving about the release of the SU700 on various TekLab lists for the last 2 years. Sorry. It was just too close to the RM1X demo unit. I spent a bit of time with an SU700 in Tokyo when it was still just a very early prototype, and my impression then was that it really was going to be an interesting and creative sampler along the lines of the A3000, which I purchased at the time. In between now and then, though, Yamaha has decided to make it more of a phrase sampler/hard disk multitrack recorder type of product - it's less 'sample mungification' and more 'phrase track production'. My initial impression (standard disclaimers apply - in other words, I could be completely wrong here since my observation was made at a hectic trade show) is that it's really not intended for 'pitch samples' playback, but more loops and simple samples. Someone (whose opinion I trust and respect greatly) made the comparison of the SU700 to "Sonic Foundry Acid in a neat hardware box" and this rings true for me, anyway. It does do realtime time-stretching and pitch-shifting, a la Acid, and it does have a nifty phrase sequencer. Add those features to the pressure-sensitive pads and reprogrammable knobs on the front panel, and I think it's really going to be a popular instrument in the breakbeat/DJ crowd. Some small words of detraction, though: those knobs looked suspiciously like the infamous optical knobs on the A3000 (the ones you can't twist too fast), and the SU700 *does* use the same SCSI expansion board as the A3000... meaning we may be subject to the same degree of sluggishness in the SU700 as we experienced with the earlier A3000 models. Consider that the likelihood of having *LARGER* samples in use with the SU700 is higher than with the A3000, and one ponders just how much of a bear slow SCSI performance is going to be on the SU700... time will tell. Either that, or TekLab list subscribers that have SU700's will tell us, I'm sure. (BTW, the a3k-list *IS* an appropriate forum for SU700 discussions, and I will be changing the list info pages to reflect this fact shortly). While we're on the SU700/A3000 comparison front, a little birdy told me that while the SU700 *does* read A3k CD's formatted in the special Yamaha A3000 ISO CD structure, it doesn't read A3k hard disks or removable media, and does in fact have it's own completely different file system for storing samples. The A3000 has SFS, the EX5 has it's own EXFS, the SU700 has *another* completely proprietary filesystem... makes me wonder if someone at Yamaha is really having fun inventing new proprietary filesystems or not. I'll have the *full* details on all this soon, so just treat all this FileSystem speculation as rumor at this point, if you will... Yamaha CS2X Controller http://www.yamaha.co.uk/synth/html/current/keyboard/d_cs2x.htm Twice the performance polyphony as the CS1X, in a nifty new color scheme (I personally *love* the new fluro purple knobs, but I think I was the only one at NAMM that did), a completely new set of arpeggiator options (wasn't able to confirm if the arpeggiator transmits to MIDI Out, but I can't think why Yamaha *wouldn't* do this, given that its been a big requested item on the cs1x-list) and a whole new set of basic waveforms, and I think Yamaha has a winner on its hands with the new CS2X. It sounds really great, for what it is - a waveform playback synth, and it's really quite a lot of fun to muck about with. When the price comes down to a reasonable street range, I just may replace my aging CS1X with one of these. Yamaha FS1R Formant/FM Synth http://www.yamaha.co.uk/synth/html/current/tonemods/d_fs1r.htm Well, we already know about this one, since it's been released already. Great sounding synth, and there were a lot of them at NAMM. Notable non-releases: The new Yamaha MO-recorder wasn't released. Don't know the status of that project, but if it wasn't released by now, its probably not going to be. (My speculation). Other Gear ---------- I'll just list this stuff randomly, since thats how I'm pulling it out of the stack of material collected during my brief sojourns out of the Yamaha exhibit area at NAMM. So, in no particular order: SEK'd Samplitude 24/96 ---------------------- http://www.sekd.com/ No question about it, Samplitude is the most professional digital audio multitrack product available for the PC these days - it's a *highly* scientific program, consistently giving the best results in pro audio environments (a colleague of mine recently used it to record live concerts for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation on a *laptop* - see next issue of RECORDING Magazine for the full details on this wonderful concept...) and now it's gotten even better: MIDI playback. Still in its infancy stages, yet a bloody great idea whose time has come, SEK'd Samplitude now allows you to do MIDI sequencing alongside the 128 rock-solid industrial-strength digital audio tracks (24bit/96khz) that you can already do in Samp 24/96. If you're looking for a new DAW platform for your projects, and want the absolute most scientifically accurate and designed-by-pro's software you can get, have a closer look at Samplitude 24/96. Well worth the effort it takes to learn the admittedly *different* user interface, but once you get past that you won't look back - Samp2496 is the best sounding DAW you will find. I'm biased, because I've been using it since Samp2.0, but I know a lot of pro's that swear by it, and it just got better with the addition of MIDI sequencing support. They were also showing off their ADDA 2496 external ADDA convertor, and in the noisy hurlyburly of NAMM my ears told me it sounded *superb*. Well, my note here in the NAMM section of my Pilot says "Listen to this in private", heh heh, so I guess that's what I'll go do... Oh, one other thing: SEK'd have MotorMix integration fully worked out. I was *flabbergasted* at the speed with which the demo-guy was able to move around Samp2496 using this new control surface, it was amazing to watch and inspiring as well. Could we be seeing less and less mouse-mixing and more and more real mixing going on? (See MotorMix section below). BeOS and the Emu/Ensoniq gang ----------------------------- http://www.be.com http://www.emu.com/ecard1.html I'm not a super big fan of the Emu/Ensoniq way of life, particularly now that they're part of the Creative Labs cheesy-sound-card-hegemony, but I did see *something* that impressed me at the Emu/Ensoniq booth: BeOS. Emu/Ensoniq have this product for the PC called the APS Sound System - essentially it's a mid-to-low end sound card for computer based musicians that follows the TerratecEWS64XL/Yamaha DSPFactory architecture by providing a 'drive bay' insert with all the goodies for easy access by the musician. It's a sampler/synth/multitrack recorder type of card, supporting (of course) the Creative Labs SoundFont2 sample file formats, providing 64 note polyphony, etc. I won't go into specific details here now, because the APS wasn't what got me excited - it was the fact that Emu/Ensoniq are writing DRIVERS for the APS system for use on the BeOS!!! For those that don't know about the BeOS, it's a brand new operating system written from scratch, designed to be completely modern and not-at-all-crappy (unlike some other OS's we're all familiar with, and yes I do mean MacOS too). BeOS is a MEDIA Operating System, meaning that streaming audio and digital data such as MIDI is what it's *ALL* about - the Emu/Ensoniq demo entailed streaming 64 channels of digital audio on a dual processor Intel P2 system, turning off one processor, intentionally crashing a few applications that were also running, and yet still having the 64 channels continue playback in *rock solid* time, even with a crashed video driver. Very impressive! Anyway, Emu/Ensoniq are working on getting the APS system fully functional under BeOS, and are indeed hiring BeOS programmers. I gave 'em my card, I do so love the BeOS (been using my BeBox since the good ol' days) and would be more than willing to overlook the fact that it's Emu/Ensoniq driving the development if it meant we would see some cool audio hardware being supported under the BeOS finally... My prediction: Next year, BeOS will be the darling child of the Summer NAMM. Mark my words. (Well, I'm cheating, because I also happen to know that a lot of 'back door' deals were being made by various sequencer/DAW developers to get ports of their products to the BeOS... first come, first served!) The Infamous St. Einar ---------------------- Well, one 'product' that I also managed to have a closer look at in real life (in the Emu/Ensoniq area) was the infamous "St. Einar" of rec.music.makers.synthesizer fame. If you've ever been subject to the reverend Saints' flame bating in this particular part of the Internet universe, you'll be sad to note that he is not, in fact, as much of a bastard in real life as he plays on USENET, heh heh. Quite a coincidence that I bumped into him at the Emu/Ensoniq area, but it was certainly fun to meet each other, I think. He and I have locked horns a number of times in various forms on the USENET forums, particularly with regard to the Yamaha A3000 Sampler and its comparison to lower life form block-of-cheese samplers, but I was glad to finally put to rest my view of St. Einar as a "complete flame-bating bastard". He is a gentle, nice fellow, even if he does swear by block-of-cheese E4k's for his creative needs... Heh heh! (If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about here, but care to find out, then do a DejaNews search for "St. Einar" some time...) Studio Electronics Omega 8 and Omega 2 -------------------------------------- http://www.studioelectronics.com/ If you are a proponent of the Moog Fetish Movement, you undoubtedly are aware of the Studio Electronics SE-1 and ATC-1 'clones', which some pro musicians/sound designers whose opinions I trust have in the past reverently referred to as "the best fucking Moog-like synths I've ever heard". Yes, indeed, I would concur - plus, it's just plain cool to have a synth in your rack that lets you change filter designs by way of a simple cartridge swap. Dim and distant memories of Atari-like pleasure abound. Well, they released a *new* synth this year at NAMM, called the Omega-8. 3 words for you: It's FAT!! I mistook it at first for the Novation Supernova (coz it's blue too), but when I heard it, I was quite astounded! A *very* fat sounding and true-to-life natural evolution of the SE-1 gene pool, I'm sure this one is going to be making its way into pro sound design studios very fast. Available in both 2 channel and 8 channel configurations. I sadly didn't get to play with this one as much as I wanted, but its something to watch out for if you're part of the MFM... Novation SuperNova/Nova ----------------------- http://www.novationusa.com/ Well, I will sadly say that Novation were in the cut-rate basement area of NAMM this year - a sign, some say, of financial distress, or perhaps a smart move away from the noisy upstairs floors of big-name synth torture, I don't know. Myself, I've always considered the 'basement' section of NAMM to be the most fun and intimate part of NAMM, as have quite a few of my trade magazine colleagues, so maybe Novation made the right move, who knows... Anyway, the item of note: The Novation Nova. Essentially a cut-back and scaled-down version of the SuperNova, it was being derisively referred to amongst sound designers I know as the "Blue 'Access Virus', only by Novation"... Heh heh. Well, I wouldn't say that, since the Access Virus has no match in The Entire Known Universe, but at least they're trying... Available in table-top configuration (a la the Virus), it looks to be an affordable entry-level synth in the SuperNova veign - sorry I don't have full specs here, but it's something to look out for if you're into that sort of thing. Access Virus and that other Big Yellow Synth. --------------------------------------------- Swung by the Waldorf/TSi/Access booth (eh?) and had a quick snoop around. The Big Banana Synth known as the "Waldorf Q" was there, being played by all sorts of synthy types, and, well, I wasn't that impressed. Perhaps I should've played with it some more, but it really didn't sound as fat and awe-inspiring as I'd hoped - maybe I'll take some headphones to the local Sam Ash some time and give it another try. Plus, it's like playing a Big Banana, what can I say? (Ah, but there will be a blue version, for sure...) More interesting to me was the small fleet of Access Viruses that were nicely sprawled out in 'sexy porn lounge' fashion - oh yeah, that was nice. I live by my Virus, as some of you may know, so it was pure sex to see 4 of them there! *BUT* that's not the point - also in this particular nook of synth nirvana was the very interesting "FR-777" analog synth/step sequencer, which a pro sound designer friend of mine referred to as "bloody great!". They had it hooked up to some genelecs, but I think my sound designer buddy had blown the tweater on 'em the day before as he drove the FR-777's filters into "insanity" mode... Nice addition: a 16 note step sequencer. One for the acid crowd, I'm sure. And designed in *TEXAS*, no less... Future Retro 777 URL: http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/FutureRetro/ Magma Mesa Ridge Technologies, Inc. ----------------------------------- Besides having what I consider one of the coolest company names around, Magma were showing off their line of PCI expansion chassis, which come Digidesign approved for use with Pro Tools. If you're running out of PCI slots, give Magma a gander - they've even got a rack expansion chassis for the new G3 Powerbooks, which means you can quite easily set up a Protools system for remote use without having to lug around a monitor, keyboard, etc. http://www.magma.com/ Sonic Reality ------------- These guys are a US-based Sample CD distribution company - US A3k-list'ers might know them as the company thats distributing the VRSound A3k CD's locally. Had a chat with the President of SR, Dave Kerzner, about the possibility of adding more A3k CD's to their lineup, and this is definitely something that TekLab and Sonic Reality are going to be pursuing in the near future. (Hint: it'd be easier for them to add A3k-format support if they had the tools to convert *all* of their Akai/Emu format CD's...) Anyway, one to keep an eye on, heh heh: http://www.sonicreality.com/ Terratec -------- http://www.terratec.co.uk/ Caught up with the MicrowavePC expansion module for the EWS64XL (which we saw last year as an early prototype), and it sounds superb. I've got an order in for one - I've lusted after a MicrowaveXT for quite a while, but I think the integrated MicrowavePC is more within my budget for now, and to my ears it sounds exactly the same - with the added advantage of having an all-digital audio path. I may just dedicate a small PC to this instrument, who knows... Terratec also released a new plugin I/O module for the EWS64XL soundcards, giving full 32 channels of I/O in a single drive-bay module. No word from them on future plans to be able to chain up different drive-bay modules, though. I've got more info coming to me on this one (didn't get a brochure), so I'll post more info on the music-bar about it when I get the chance. I think drive-bay modules are becoming a more and more viable option for PC-based musicians... Opcode ------ Opcode (now part of Gibson Guitars) were showing off their portable USB<->MIDI, USB<->Audio devices (damnit, forgotten their names) which were gathering interest among a lot of punters as a potential key ingredient in the one-laptop-does-it-all recipe. About the size of a very fat packet of cigarretes, I can definitely see these devices becoming a staple part of the travelling musicians kit, particularly now that USB is making its presence felt in the laptop industry. While at Opcode, I had the pleasure of bumping into Boris Popkoff, of a3k-list fame and again had one of those face-to-the-net-address moments. Good to meet you Boris, hope you'll keep us up to date on these great new devices! Linux and USB ------------- Met a very nice fellow by the name of Russell Picket, who is doing a feature article for EM about Linux and its use in the audio industry. Russell was making the rounds trying to get a feel for how pro audio hardware manufacturers felt about adding Linux support - surveying them to determine what barriers are in the way to adding Linux driver support, etc. He told me that he's got a lot of great feedback and will be making the results of this survey available through both a future EM review article and a personal "Organize Linux Driver Development for Audio Stuff" web site that he's currently orchestrating. I personally witnessed him making arrangements with a number of manufacturers to get hardwared donated to the Linux USB driver project for testing purposes, so this is a good move. I'll have more details on how he's progressing as he makes them known to me... MotorMix dedicated control surface ---------------------------------- http://www.cmautomation.com/ Making its NAMM debut, and in a very subtle fashion - the CMAutomation MotorMix dedicated control surface was featured in a number of software manufacturer booths controlling sequencers and mixers and DAW's - this one is a hot item. List price of $995, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were available on the street for $700 soon. Featuring 8 motorized sliders, 8 Rotary pots, dedicated System control switches and other numerous programmable controls, the MotorMix looks set to become a staple ingredient in a lot of pro/semi-pro musicians' "Building a DAW workstation" shopping list. It's a *very* well constructed product, and like I mentioned in the SEK'd section above I was astounded at how well it integrated with Samp2496 - you can pretty much chuck away your mouse and keyboard if you pair Samp2496 up with a MotorMix, since everything is covered by a dedicated control on the MotorMix. Maybe MotorMix Mk. 2 could add a small trackball and WinCE-like keyboard, eh? Now, *theres* a thought... Word from the inside is that CMAutomation are working on the AudioX effort, which a lot of other software developers were also gathering around to support - AudioX is supposed to be for MIDI what ActiveX is for other realms of the Microsoft Operating System, and its a sorely needed item. AudioX ------ I was on the periphery of a number of discussions about AudioX, and haven't fully studied the draft papers that have been sent my way about it, but from what I can understand so far AudioX is a means for software and hardware manufacturers to *standardly* provide MIDI control 'plugins' for different pieces of gear. We have Cakewalk Panels, Logic Environments, Cubase Mixer Maps, etc - all using their own controls, their own design, etc. Well, AudioX is a plugin scheme/architecture that allows any audio application to use standard 'control environments' for MIDI gear. If you have an FS1R AudioX plugin installed, for example, you can use it from within Cakewalk or Cubase the same way. More on this on the music-bar as I get time to digest it, but I was very happy to see movement in this area - and it's badly needed, too, because if developers like Steinberg and Cakewalk and SEK'd don't band together and sort it out soon, Microsoft will come in and give everyone a half-assed product, as they have done with other 'standardization' efforts for the pro-audio industry... Microsoft --------- Speaking of Microsoft, I saw a lot of Microsoft spies that I know personally at NAMM, sneaking around booths, attending back-door conferences, soaking up the details on what the pro digital audio software market is currently up to. I know for a fact that two of the MS reps I saw skulking about are part of the 'advance team' that Microsoft sends in to find out what to buy, what not to buy, etc. These two fellows were busy soaking things up, and based on their reports I'm quite certain that we're going to see a *big* shift into this industry by Microsoft in the very near future. They may be coming in to take care of the AudioX movement (which has so far been 3rd party developer-driven), but as is always the case there will more than likely be some acquisitions of major players in the audio industry by Microsoft sooner or later. Have a look at those companies whose products rely heavily on MS Windows for survival, and companies whose products are deeply intertwined with the operating system fundamentals (timing resolution, etc) and who has the most plugins for the product, and I'm sure we'll see just who Microsoft is going after... It'll be an interesting year for Pro Audio Software IPO's, anyway ... If you play the stockmarket, that is. People, people, people. ----------------------- Well, we met *everyone* at Yamaha that we intended to meet, and a lot will come of that for TekLab in the coming weeks. Thanks to all the Yamaha people that took time out of their busy NAMM schedules to chase us down, it was great to finally meet you! Met up with Christoph Kemp, of Access Virus fame, and he even bought me a coffee - very friendly chap, it was great to kick back and discuss the access-list, get a bit of a hint about the future direction of Access and the Virus, and generally gossip over a coffee and cigarette outside, away from the maddening sound that was the main NAMM hall. During that conversation, we were joined by Reinhard Schmitz of Creamw@re, and the discussion quickly segued into whats going on with the Pulsar and Scope... Alas, in case you haven't heard, the Scope dedicated control surface project has been cancelled, as it is too expensive to manufacture, though I'm sure a scaled back version will be made available once Scope has hit the streets. Don't quote me on that, it's just my humble opinion. It was quite fun to chat with these guys, and I really got a feeling of artistry from them both - very professional, and quite distant from the overly self-promoting types we find in the synth/sound design industry here in the Los Angeles/SoCal area. Refreshing! Met Franz Pusch, of course, of VRSound fame - he was working on demo'ing the EX-series and his Sample CD's for Yamaha - Franz, it was good to hear that VRSound is doing so well and that you're doing all the fun stuff that you do. I'm sure a lot of A3k users around the world will be glad to know that you've still got A3k support in your sights for your future CD projects, as well as EX-support. (http://www.vrsound.com/) Down in the hall affectionately known amongst NAMM'ers as the "Dungeon Area" I bumped into Peter Gorges - some old-time a3k-list'ers might recognize Peter as one of the first people to note the early MIDI timing problems with the now out-dated A3000 V1.0 Operating System. Peter and his gang were doing the whole wizoo thing (http://www.wizoo.com), showing off his books and sample CD's, and I was *very* impressed with the books I saw. If you're looking for good, friendly, easy to read handbooks on topics such as MetaSynth, Cubase VST, and Sample editing, I highly recommend spending some time browsing through the Wizoo selection. Peter was, as always, a friendly chap, and again it was good to put a face to the e-mail address, finally! I managed to spend a few minutes with my buddies from RECORDING Magazine towards the end of the show - briefly mentioned above, there will be a *very* interesting article in next months RECORDING Magazine on the subject of professional location-based digital recording using only a laptop. Bill Stunt will be describing his extremeley successful adventure in this realm for us, so I urge those of you that are interested to keep an eye on the newsstands for next months RECORDING Magazine here in the US. With the advent of more and more synth and audio editing/recording tools for the PC environment, the day when we can "sit on the beach with a laptop and produce our next hit album" is ever-closer. Conclusion ---------- It wasn't a ground-breaking show this year - certainly, it felt like a lot of things that were being trumpeted loudly at last years show were finally coming together and making their way into reality. Yamaha's new product lineup seems to have had the benefit of a years worth of market growth courtesy of last years Roland releases (the [in]famous Groove stuff), and perhaps we'll see more and more of the RM1X/CS2X/SU700 stuff as people realize the improvements made over other competing products. I for one am very excited about the idea of putting the RM1X to use in a live performance situation... There was a *lot* going on in the software realm, and I wish I'd had more of a chance to get in on a lot of the back-lines conversations that were going on, but I came away knowing a few things: 1. BeOS is on its way, slowly, but surely. 2. Microsoft is on its way into this industry, big-time. Ouch. 3. Analog-modelling synths are borderline passe, alternative synthesis engines (FS1R!) are on a moderate upswing. 4. Software Synthesis is highly economical for everyone. Thus, interesting new software synthesis technologies will be seen more and more as processing power increases. 5. Everyone wants a one-laptop-does-it-all solution. It was a fun, and fast event, and I look forward to next year! Though, I just *may* be attending Frankfurt Musik Messe this year, depending on how things go with the release of A3kDisky in the very near future... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 05:36:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Help me make a buying decision Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:33:44 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Cam asks... >1. Does the virus have its own distinctive sound? I mean, in twenty years will keyboard reviews say things like "the Ultramegatron nailed the TB-303 sound, but came up short on the Virus emulators"? Yes. You can make it sound like 20 other synths with little difficulty, but it has it's own voice IMHO. >2. Is there a real problem with the Virus crashing? I've seen lots of letters talking about the Virus going t**s-up at the worst possible times On the whole I'd say not - mine has been very reliable, and when it does crash it has always been due to a MIDI loop. >3. How does the Virus compare with the Nord Modular? The Nord Modular is better because you can do almost anything you can sonically imagine with it. I mean it just makes me wet my pants. But it costs about double the Virus, has fewer voices, and needs a lot more thought to program. I am hoping to buy the micro-modular soon, but I would still regard the Virus as my main synth for some time to come. I'd buy it again, no doubt. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 05:36:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:38:33 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Help me make a buying decision Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cam At 09:38 PM 2/3/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >dude.....2 grand???????? >you can get a virus for like 1250$ U.s. now that alone should make you go out and buy one toinite!!! weld > But after converting your 1250 US into Canadian and adding tax it comes out to about $2000. Whichever way you figure it it's a lot of money. Clockwork Cam Visit the official Clockwork website at http://members.xoom.com/camwid/index.html for some samplings of my original trance compositions ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 10:00:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:57:38 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: EVP update 2 febr 1999 WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello All! The EVP page has updated. Some new memebers were added - welcome! - and the location is (almost definately) known. Only the exact time is still unknown, I guess about end-april or begin-may. Also read of my plans on our little music project... any ideas? Take a look at http://145.99.128.7/evp Have fun! Dimitri. (PS the EVP page has had more visitors in one month than my personal music page in half a year! Maybe I should add a 5c banner? :-p nono, I won't do that! I hate those banners!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 13:30:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:21:09 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >it was great to kick back and discuss the access-list, get a bit of a hint about the future direction of Access and the Virus Hey, Jay. You can't keep us in suspense like this!! Spread the word. (Or is it classified information?) -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 13:23:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:21:01 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: Help me make a buying decision Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen >2. Is there a real problem with the Virus crashing? I've seen lots of letters talking about the Virus going t**s-up at the worst possible times (ie in a live playing situation). OK, there has been quite a lot writings about that but I think people don't write here very often about things going great (maybe we should). AND: If I have have understood it right, the access people need feedback to make improvements to the operating system. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 13:39:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: KEYS magazine Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:33:41 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi List, On the latest KEYS 3 there is a nice demo of Frank with the Virus and the vocoder. Also the Waldorf Q is tested with a cool demo on the CD of Uwe Hoenig. Regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) -TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm - Very soon you will find my on: www.robpapen.com ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 14:37:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:04:49 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: KEYS magazine Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:33 PM +0100 on 04.02.1999 Rob Papen wrote: >On the latest KEYS 3 there is a nice demo of Frank with the Virus and the vocoder. Well, teleport to my website and download the MP3 of this file from the soundexamples page...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 14:24:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:21:56 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Hurray 4 virus (Re: Help me make a buying decision) WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! Yes, that's right. You regularly read criticism on the virus here. The fact we 'complain' a lot (do we?) is that we want to help access deugging their OS. I can assure you, that's what every synthesiser-cook does. But access makes a good advantage of the possibilities of a mailinglist, and give feedback on our feedback sometimes. Many cook's don't do that. You just have to wait and hope they noticed the bug too, and then you can buy a new OS upgrade. Yeah, sometimes there was an OS release with nasty parapeek errors or whatsoever, releases you can't really sell a cusotmer, but those were debugged within a week! Not the kind of bugs you'd like to have in a concert. And that clicking noise, is a vague territory between setting some settings too loud and a bug in the vocoder (as you might have read some mails ago). I personally have problems with the basedrum clicking, depending on how which I use. But it's not a big issue since this bug wille be fixed in the next release. In OS 2.0 we got an OS upgrade (note, they're all for free, just download'em and send 'em via MIDI SysEx), and it contained a little gift, a 32 band vocoder.... I suppose 2.02 (or 3.0?) will contain a new present for all of us. And your question about the sound..... you can choose if you want to have a warm, analogue sound or a cheesy FM sound. I depends on you tweekin' the knobs. I personally love to rest my hands on the wooden sides of the virus afterwards. :-) So, yes, we're critical, and complain a lot about bugs, we want to help access (and ourselves by that) No, it's not that we don't like our virus and that it's a buggy monster. I am not afraid to take my virus on stage. I think that's what most people think, but at least I speak for myself. Dimitri. Mara Salminen schreef: >* From Mara Salminen > >>2. Is there a real problem with the Virus crashing? I've seen lots of >>letters talking about the Virus going t**s-up at the worst possible times >>(ie in a live playing situation). >OK, there has been quite a lot writings about that but I think people don't >write here very often about things going great (maybe we should). AND: If I >have have understood it right, the access people need feedback to make >improvements to the operating system. >Martti Salminen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 14:33:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:31:31 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl lowlifeform schreef: >>it was great to kick back and discuss the access-list, get a bit of a hint about the future direction of Access and the Virus >Hey, Jay. You can't keep us in suspense like this!! Spread the word. (Or is it classified information?) Yeah, Jay! Tell us! Or teklab? What'up? Have you a lot of new workers to build a step sequencer? A great access sampler? Or are you givin' up business and have a retirement on the bahama's with an access-helicopter-platform? Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 15:51:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:52:27 +0100 From: "Ch. Schneider" Organization: FGAN-FFM-EL X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Ch. Schneider" di-mi@dds.nl wrote: >Or are you givin' up business and have a retirement on the bahama's with an access-helicopter-platform? > Bahama´s? Don´t you know access island? But it´s a retirement for us. It is a place where all the infected people (no no, sounds like a condemned place but i mean virus owners) will live in peace and turn the knobs the whole day. Everthing sounds fine and girls are lying on the beach. But there is one problem. It´s a virtual island and it has a little bug in the OS: the clouds won´t disappear. psssst, but don´t tell anyone. It´s a well hidden secret. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 22:32:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:29:59 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hi! Welcome back! :-) It sounds like the lfo starts at the wrong phase. I can imagine that e.g. at a triangle synced LFO affecting the filter frequency you'd prefer to begin at the highest level of the triangle. The triangle (and sine too) starts at the neutral zone though. A quarter of the wave further it is at his highest, three quarter it is at its lowest. So you might want to set the TrigPhase (edit menu) under your LFO to 3/4*128 or 1/4*128 is 32 or 96. Maybe this helps? Or do you use an other waveform for your LFO than sine or triangle? Also, if you Set the trisymmetry to something else than +0, the values 32 and 96 are different, just tweak it! Maybe it even give a nice effect not setting those parameters exactly at the right spot. Dimitri. At 18:06 2-2-99 +0100, you wrote: >I think I'm missing a small feature on the virus. When using LFOs theat are synced to MIDI-clock (I use this quite often) I'm never so lucky that the Virus syncs to the beginning of the bar. It syncs to somewhere in between which leads to very strange effects. Sometimes it really kills the rhythm. > >So what about a controller that I could send once on the beginning of a bar, so that the Virus knows where the bar starts??? Or is there another way of syncing in Logic? Martin >mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 23:32:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:11:27 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 12:21 PM 2/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >* From lowlifeform >>it was great to kick back and discuss the access-list, get a bit of a hint about the future direction of Access and the Virus >Hey, Jay. You can't keep us in suspense like this!! Spread the word. (Or is it classified information?) Oh no, I'm afraid I simply can't. It's just too good, and you'll have to wait to hear about it all *officially* from Access themselves. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 4 23:32:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:12:03 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Or teklab? What'up? Have you a lot of new workers to build a step sequencer? A great access sampler? Hey, that's not a bad idea, actually... but as for Access, I really can't say what the plan is. You'll like it, though! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 01:18:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:07:30 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >>Oh no, I'm afraid I simply can't. It's just too good, and you'll have to wait to hear about it all *officially* from Access themselves. > >OK, I understand... but please tell us when Access will make some info available. Before the Musikmesse I hope ! > I don't know, its up to them. I'm sure that you'll hear lots of good news from Christopher and the gang in the coming months though! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 01:13:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:08:34 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hey Jay, >>Hey, Jay. You can't keep us in suspense like this!! Spread the word. (Or is it classified information?) > >Oh no, I'm afraid I simply can't. It's just too good, and you'll have to wait to hear about it all *officially* from Access themselves. OK, I understand... but please tell us when Access will make some info available. Before the Musikmesse I hope ! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 01:41:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:35:33 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joeri Vankeirsbilck Hey, >>...please tell us when Access will make some info available. Before the Musikmesse I hope ! >> > >I don't know, its up to them. I'm sure that you'll hear lots of good news from Christopher and the gang in the coming months though! OK, then I'll make sure Access is the first thing I'll visit on the Musikmesse. ;-) Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@nbdj.com http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays http://www.nbdj.com/Logic - Logic Wish-List ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 03:00:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:57:43 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Does my Virus have a Virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall I've posted to this list in the past about the problems I'm having with patches being corrupted on my Virus. A long time ago Christoph suggested that early on the back up batteries that they were buying had problems, but I just checked the battery - no problem there. I would like to try to eliminate all other possibilities before I have to send my Virus in for repairs. Some other people have had the same problems. Could you please email me with the circumstances? I know that my Studio 4 interface does weird things to some MIDI messages (beat clock can screw up bank select messages), so I was wondering what MIDI interfaces other similarly afflicted Virus owners are using. The only other early hardware problem that I heard about was that the ribbon cables inside were getting pinched in-between some of the pins on the boards and causing a short. This doesn't seem to be a problem on my unit. Has anyone else had any hardware problems that required service? thanks -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 04:39:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:28:40 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Can't access bank B. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan I know there was a fix for this posted the other day or something, but I can't find it. I just upgraded to OS2.1, and now I can't access Bank B in Single mode. I hold down Single and + and it just increments the Single A voice, instead of shifting me to Bank B. Can someone mail me what I've done wrong? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 04:42:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:31:21 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Can't access bank B. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Ah, never mind. I should pay more attention. Sorry! :) j. At 07:28 PM 2/4/99 -0800, you wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >I know there was a fix for this posted the other day or something, but I can't find it. > >I just upgraded to OS2.1, and now I can't access Bank B in Single mode. I hold down Single and + and it just increments the Single A voice, instead of shifting me to Bank B. > >Can someone mail me what I've done wrong? > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 05:22:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:08:42 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Does my Virus have a Virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 2/5/99 3:48:02 AM, gatrall@slip.net writes: << I know that my Studio 4 interface does weird things to some MIDI messages (beat clock can screw up bank select messages), so I was wondering what MIDI interfaces other similarly afflicted Virus owners are using. >> I use a Studio 4 with my Virus (Mac G3/Opcode VisionDSP) and have not had any problems. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 05:39:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:33:56 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Does my Virus have a Virus? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Simon Gatrall) wrote: <> I have one patch that is also used in one of my multi patch locations that sometimes is screwed up when I turn on my Virus. What is strange is that the single patch it references sounds OK if I scroll to it from a higher patch number and load it. But if I scroll up from a lower number and then load it, it is screwed up. This is in version 1.56 or 1.58, can't remember at the moment. It's a patch that sounds different based on what patch is loaded before it. Try to figure that out. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 06:13:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:15:37 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Codling Subject: purchase decision: microwaveXT vs VIRUS To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stephen Codling My next purchase will be one of these two keyboards I think. Does anybody have any opinions??? And I know I have to make up my own mind by playing them both and seeing which fits my music better etc. etc. etc.. However, I live up north in Canada and won't be able to play either of them unitl I go down to Vancouver this spring. So in the meantime, I just want perspectives from all the people I trust (ie. people who are on this list as opposed to people who play Roland workstations). Thanks. Steve. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 07:28:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:25:53 EST To: access-list@teklab.com, srcodling@yahoo.com Subject: Re: purchase decision: microwaveXT vs VIRUS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 2/4/99 11:16:32 PM, srcodling@yahoo.com writes: >My next purchase will be one of these two keyboards I think. Does anybody have any opinions??? >So in the meantime, I just want perspectives from all the people I trust (ie. people who are on this list as opposed to people who play Roland workstations). Very simple. There is no "vs," you need to get BOTH. I did, and there is no way I would be able to do without either of them, they compliment each other so well. Oh, and sorry, I don't own any Roland synths..... Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 07:40:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:38:12 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Does my Virus have a Virus? (Second try at posting) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Simon Gatrall) wrote: <> I have one patch that is also used in one of my multi patch locations that sometimes is screwed up when I turn on my Virus. What is strange is that the single patch it references sounds OK if I scroll to it from a higher patch number and load it. But if I scroll up from a lower number and then load it, it is screwed up. This is in version 1.56 or 1.58, can't remember at the moment. It's a patch that sounds different based on what patch is loaded before it. Try to figure that out. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 09:41:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:32:00 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Namm . . . . . . . Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >>* From lowlifeform >>>it was great to kick back and discuss the access-list, get a bit of a hint about the future direction of Access and the Virus >>Hey, Jay. You can't keep us in suspense like this!! Spread the word. (Or is it classified information?) >Oh no, I'm afraid I simply can't. It's just too good, and you'll have to wait to hear about it all *officially* from Access themselves. Ok, let me guess: (in no particular order) 1) They are developing a piece of software for the P.C. (or MAC) to allow the Virus to be used in the same way as the Nord Micro Modular. After all, what does the Nord M.M. have, which the Virus doesn't ? Plus, it has a lot more knobs. So this is my first guess. The only disadvantage the Virus has in comparison to the N.M.M. is the lack of a second MIDI-in. 2) Morphing of the waves (a la Microwave) via envelopes or LFOs. That could be done, I suppose. (Or is it patented by Waldorf??) 3) Ring-mod, mod-matrix, third envelope, compressor, voice-stealing indicator, blue L.E.Ds blah bla? No - too easy. 4) D.S.P. extension module, giving us a shitload more voices and some more effects to play with? Probably too expensive. 5) Step-Sequencer?? Well, a lot of people have asked for this one, but I can't really see it happening. How would you control it in real-time? (Unless it could be done in a similar fashion to the old MC-202 for example . . . hmmmm) 6) Sampling functions. Some people have asked for this too, but how could it possibly work? I mean audio samples are like - really BIG! So where would you store them, and how would you save them? That's it - I'm out of guesses! Anyone else? -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 10:07:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: purchase decision: microwaveXT vs VIRUS Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:04:44 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:15:37 -0800 (PST), Stephen Codling wrote: >My next purchase will be one of these two keyboards I think. Does anybody have any opinions??? Get both. I couldn't live without either of them - they do different jobs but complement each other perfectly. I think if I were forced to choose, I'd probably pick the XT but it's close and depends heavily on your intended usage and your own taste. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: softroom@btinternet.com web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 09:41:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:38:34 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: TekLab NAMM Report - LONG! WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Jay Vaughan schreef: >>Hey, Jay. You can't keep us in suspense like this!! Spread the word. (Or is it classified information?) >Oh no, I'm afraid I simply can't. It's just too good, and you'll have to >wait to hear about it all *officially* from Access themselves. I heard from access that my assumption on their future plans, that they wanted to retire and go to an Island was right..... Some 'access-island', I heard something about tweaking, about girls, an own access-helicopter-platform, or would that have been a joke? ;-) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 16:29:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:27:58 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Illegal Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen >Hi, >I actually wonder how this can happen in an actual operating system (2.0x). I just checked the code. If the Input Mode is illegal, the Virus does not switch >into any Input Mode, so the sounds should not get 'dead' at all. I will check the practice tomorrow, but I think this is the story :) !? > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access Well, I just switched on the Virus and all single B sounds have the value "illegal" in Input Mode and there is no sound until it is changed to "off".It is impossible to give it the value "illegal" again. I have found it useful to keep factory sounds in B-bank and all the edited sounds in A-bank. This way I can reload the factory sounds to B-bank. After reloading everything works fine. What does this "illegal" mean in practise? --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 16:56:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:54:20 +0100 From: "J–rg Wessels" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Can't access bank B. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jörg Wessels" Jay Vaughan schrieb: >I just upgraded to OS2.1, and now I can't access Bank B in Single Where did you get 2.1? What has improved since 2.01? Jörg ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 17:29:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:33:25 +0100 Subject: Re: Illegal Virus From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Mara Salminen > > >>Hi, >>I actually wonder how this can happen in an actual operating system (2.0x). I just checked the code. If the Input Mode is illegal, the Virus does not >switch >>into any Input Mode, so the sounds should not get 'dead' at all. I will check the practice tomorrow, but I think this is the story :) !? >> >>Ciao >>Christoph Kemper >>access > >Well, I just switched on the Virus and all single B sounds have the value "illegal" in Input Mode and there is no sound until it is changed to "off".It is impossible to give it the value "illegal" again. I have found it useful to keep factory sounds in B-bank and all the edited sounds in A-bank. This way I can reload the factory sounds to B-bank. After reloading everything works fine. > >What does this "illegal" mean in practise? Are you sure to have OS 2.0.1? The *illegal-Input* message only appeared in earlier OSes.... lllegal means that the value of the stored parameter *Input* is not availabe - there are not 127 possibilities of changing the input. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 19:13:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 18:58:40 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: Illegal Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner Hi List-eners ! At 17:33 05.02.99 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Raymund Beyer" > >>* From Mara Salminen >>>Hi, >>>I actually wonder how this can happen in an actual operating system (2.0x). I >>>just checked the code. If the Input Mode is illegal, the Virus does not >>switch >>>into any Input Mode, so the sounds should not get 'dead' at all. I will check >>>the practice tomorrow, but I think this is the story :) !? >>> >>>Ciao >>>Christoph Kemper >>>access >> >>Well, I just switched on the Virus and all single B sounds have the value "illegal" in Input Mode and there is no sound until it is changed to "off".It is impossible to give it the value "illegal" again. I have found it useful to keep factory sounds in B-bank and all the edited sounds in A-bank. This way I can reload the factory sounds to B-bank. After reloading everything works fine. >> >>What does this "illegal" mean in practise? > > >Are you sure to have OS 2.0.1? The *illegal-Input* message only appeared in earlier OSes.... Hmmm Ray, that is not 100% true. When you put a Value higher than 2 (=Dynamic) to the InputMode-Parameter *via MIDI* (f.e. with a fader-box or sequencer - not possible with the panel of your virus), this value is "illegal", and of course it will be named not only in earlier OSes, but also now and in future as "illegal". Since we know about the fact, that there might be problems with this parameter InputMode, all Values from 3 to 127 are interpreted like 0 = "Off" and not like 2 (=Dynamic) as it was in past-OSes (that is what Christoph had meant). Because of this you should here all of your sounds in Bank B Mara Salminen, no matter, if the Value of InputMode is 0="Off" or 3 to 127="illegal" !!! > >lllegal means that the value of the stored parameter *Input* is not availabe - there are not 127 possibilities of changing the input. Ray Jörg Meißner access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 19:13:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:03:09 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: NO OS 2.1 out yet Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner At 16:54 05.02.99 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Jörg Wessels" > >Jay Vaughan schrieb: >>I just upgraded to OS2.1, and now I can't access Bank B in Single > >Where did you get 2.1? What has improved since 2.01? > >Jörg There is no OS 2.1 out yet. I know it, because I'm working on it at this moment! I would be happy, if it was already out, because then it would be a real weekend - without any work ;) Jörg Meißner access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 20:55:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:38:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Illegal Virus From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Joerg Meissner > >Hi List-eners ! > >At 17:33 05.02.99 +0100, you wrote: >>* From "Raymund Beyer" >> >>>* From Mara Salminen >>>>Hi, >>>>I actually wonder how this can happen in an actual operating system >(2.0x). I >>>>just checked the code. If the Input Mode is illegal, the Virus does not >>>switch >>>>into any Input Mode, so the sounds should not get 'dead' at all. I will >check >>>>the practice tomorrow, but I think this is the story :) !? >>>> >>>>Ciao >>>>Christoph Kemper >>>>access >>> >>>Well, I just switched on the Virus and all single B sounds have the value "illegal" in Input Mode and there is no sound until it is changed to "off".It is impossible to give it the value "illegal" again. I have found it useful to keep factory sounds in B-bank and all the edited sounds in A-bank. This way I can reload the factory sounds to B-bank. After reloading everything works fine. >>> >>>What does this "illegal" mean in practise? >> >> >>Are you sure to have OS 2.0.1? The *illegal-Input* message only appeared in earlier OSes.... > >Hmmm Ray, that is not 100% true. When you put a Value higher than 2 (=Dynamic) to the InputMode-Parameter *via MIDI* (f.e. with a fader-box or sequencer - not possible with the panel of your virus), this value is "illegal", and of course it will be named not only in earlier OSes, but also now and in future as "illegal". > Oh sure - I didn´t mind this. I was think of the old b-bank problem that seems to be fixed now :-) >Since we know about the fact, that there might be problems with this parameter InputMode, all Values from 3 to 127 are interpreted like 0 = "Off" and not like 2 (=Dynamic) as it was in past-OSes (that is what Christoph had meant). Because of this you should here all of your sounds in Bank B Mara Salminen, no matter, if the Value of InputMode is 0="Off" or 3 to 127="illegal" !!! Thats what I tried to say. Ray ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 20:13:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Thomas Eigel Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:11:06 +0100 (MET) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Program change problems Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Eigel Hi, my virus doesn't react to program and bank changes (midi-ctrl. 0 or 32), which i send with Cubase PC. What do i do wrong? (I've already switched mem-protect off) THANKS Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 23:20:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:33:12 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Can't access bank B. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 04:54 PM 2/5/99 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Jörg Wessels" > >Jay Vaughan schrieb: >>I just upgraded to OS2.1, and now I can't access Bank B in Single > >Where did you get 2.1? What has improved since 2.01? > It was a typo, sorry. I meant 2.01. I had 2.0 previously. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 5 22:50:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:47:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Program change problems Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:11 PM +0100 on 05.02.1999 Thomas Eigel wrote: >my virus doesn't react to program and bank changes (midi-ctrl. 0 or 32), which i >send with Cubase PC. What do i do wrong? (I've already switched mem-protect off) > >THANKS are you talking about single or multi program changes? remember that you have to enable multi progam changes first and they only work in OS 2.x and up. (I think they didn't work earlier. They definitely work now). think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 6 13:14:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:03:14 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Illegal input once more Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen "Are you sure to have OS 2.0.1? The *illegal-Input* message only appeared in earlier OSes...." -Yes, I am sure to have OS 2.01. The same message appears still. "you should here all of your sounds in Bank B, no matter, if the Value of InputMode is 0="Off" or 3 to 127="illegal" !!!" -Hmm.. what can I say? You are right and I am ashamed. I went into panic when I saw the "input-illegal" text and actually did not even try to play any notes. I am very sorry and I feel quite stupid. Thanks a lot for this information. "When you put a Value higher than 2 (=Dynamic) to the InputMode-Parameter *via MIDI* (f.e. with a fader-box or sequencer - not possible with the panel of your virus), this value is "illegal", and of course it will be named not only in earlier OSes, but also now and in future as "illegal"." -OK, but how can this value sneak into my Virus when the power is off and nothing is connected via MIDI? It really doesn't matter that much anymore but I'd like to know. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 6 20:51:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Nord Modular List ? Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:42:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" Sorry about this off topic subject, but does anyone know if there is a Nord Modular list (like the Virus list) ? Thanx ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 6 21:23:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: edetrez@nordmail.nordnet.fr Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:21:06 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Eric DETREZ Subject: Re : Nord Modular List ? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Eric DETREZ Le 6/02/99 Dimitri TIKOVOI écrivit : >* From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" > >Sorry about this off topic subject, but does anyone know if there is a Nord Modular list (like the Virus list) ? >Thanx Yes : write subscribe modular-list to majordomo@wizoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 7 13:02:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Re: Nord Modular List ? Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:26:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Thanks >* >From Eric DETREZ <edetrez@nordnet.fr> > >Le 6/02/99 Dimitri TIKOVOI écrivit : > >>* From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" <D_Tikovoi@email.msn.com> >> >>Sorry about this off topic subject, but does anyone know if there is a Nord Modular list (like the Virus list) ? >>Thanx > >Yes : >write subscribe modular-list to majordomo@wizoo.com > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 7 14:30:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rainer Harz" To: Subject: New LFO3-Parameter in Virus Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:31:25 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rainer Harz" There's an new parameter for LFO3-Destination. It's called "SyncPhase". Just works when Osc-Sync is turned on. Any official Statements, Christoph ??? Greets Rainer Harz ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 8 09:46:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:40:28 +0100 Subject: Re: Program change problems Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:11:06 +0100 (MET), Thomas Eigel wrote: >* From Thomas Eigel > >Hi, > >my virus doesn't react to program and bank changes (midi-ctrl. 0 or 32), which i send with Cubase PC. What do i do wrong? (I've already switched mem-protect off) I encountered the following problem while programming the Stusio Module driver: When Cubase sends a Bank Select command ist transmits the MSB and LSB (the higher and lower part of an integer number - implemented to support more than 128 values on MIDI). At least up to OS 1.54 the VIRUS treats an incoming Bank Select MSB the same way as an LSB: It uses tham as the bak number number. This is even documented in the manual. The result is as follows: Cubase sends Bank 0 (LSB=0,MSB=0): VIRUS reads bank0, bank0 and switches to bank A Cubase sends Bank 1 (LSB=1,MSB=0): VIRUS reads bank1,bank0 (the MSB) and might switch to bank B and then back to Bank A !!! The solution is easy: Use bank number 129 instead of 1: !!! Cubase sends Bank 129 (LSB=1,MSB=1): VIRUS reads bank1, bank1 and switches safely to bank B I don't know wether this is fixed now, but you can use bank 129 easily, I think. However, the Studio Module driver takes account of this. CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 8 18:40:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rainer Harz" To: Subject: Program change problems --> Virus-Studio-Modul Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:27:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rainer Harz" >I encountered the following problem while programming the Stusio Module driver: Where can I get this Studio-Modul-Driver ??? I found one on the Steinberg-FTP-Site, but i doesn't work correctly. Is there a working one anywhere ? Greets Rainer Harz ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 8 19:50:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Program change problems --> Virus-Studio-Modul Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:40:21 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:27:23 +0100, "Rainer Harz" wrote: >Where can I get this Studio-Modul-Driver ??? I found one on the Steinberg-FTP-Site, but i doesn't work correctly. Is there a working one anywhere ? I spoke to the author some time ago about this and he kindly sent me the source. Since then I've never got round to trying to tweak it. According to the byte count it gets a single patch from a bank then times out. Should be easy enough to suss. Isn't the source on the latest Cubase CD? It does grab single patch buffers I think so it's not far off. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 8 19:50:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Program change problems --> Virus-Studio-Modul Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:40:23 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:27:23 +0100, "Rainer Harz" wrote: >Where can I get this Studio-Modul-Driver ??? I found one on the Steinberg-FTP-Site, but i doesn't work correctly. Is there a working one anywhere ? I spoke to the author some time ago about this and he kindly sent me the source. Since then I've never got round to trying to tweak it. According to the byte count it gets a single patch from a bank then times out. Should be easy enough to suss. Isn't the source on the latest Cubase CD? It does grab single patch buffers I think so it's not far off. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 9 10:39:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:34:55 +0100 Subject: Re: Program change problems --> Virus-Studio-Modul Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:27:23 +0100, Rainer Harz wrote: >* From "Rainer Harz" > >>I encountered the following problem while programming the Stusio Module >driver: > > >Where can I get this Studio-Modul-Driver ??? I found one on the Steinberg-FTP-Site, but i doesn't work correctly. Is there a working one anywhere ? I contributed the driver to canine two times now but it doesn't show up there - hm. Since this is not a binary list I won't send it here. Anyway, this is the status: - Steinberg has received the driver at the end of last year. I don't know what they are doing with it. - It works properly with my Cubase VST, en EES 1/4 Midi interface and VIRUS OS V1.58. - It does not seem to work on 16 bit Cubase versions - dunno why, since there's only one development tool and no further versions. The source is fairly simple - I just can't imagine why 16 bit Cubases should crash with it. - It features Single and Multi banks plus the according edit buffers. - It does not feature any MacroEdit commands (since they crash the programming tool). - I haven't done any updates since 12/98, especially no tests with VIRUS OS versions >1.58 I keep reading the list until I get the impression there won't be new problems with new a new OS. V1.58 works fine, no clicking, the banks are ok, no hanging notes, no system crashes... Philipp Mott ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 9 11:38:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:39:04 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Program change problems --> Virus-Studio-Modul Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:34 AM +0100 on 09.02.1999 Philipp Mott wrote: >* From "Philipp Mott" > >I contributed the driver to canine two times now but it doesn't show up there - hm. Since this is not a binary list I won't send it here. Anyway, this is the status: Philip you are so right. I haven't had the chance to put it up on the page (Philip sent it to me sometime last week) I am very sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. I will put it up on the http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus site today. Just bear with me a little while longer....;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 9 18:14:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:12:59 +0000 Subject: Forwarded: Re: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>I think I'm missing a small feature on the virus. When using LFOs theat >are >>synced to MIDI-clock (I use this quite often) I'm never so lucky that the Virus syncs to the beginning of the bar. It syncs to somewhere in between which leads to very strange effects. Sometimes it really kills the >rhythm. >> >>So what about a controller that I could send once on the beginning of a bar, so that the Virus knows where the bar starts??? Or is there another way of syncing in Logic? >> > >I just checked it at my house. >It works fine. The LFO retriggers at the beginning of the next bar, if it was >not in sync until that. >Does the hint of Dimitri Sijperda solve your problem? > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access I still get this problem as well. If it aint the Virus it has to be something to do with the MIDI clock stream and I just don't know enough about that subject. I have tried using a MOTU MIDI express instead of my Opcode studio 64x but the Virus seems completely unable to sync anything to that! I have set MIDI clock output to the correct port in Logic but I'm not sure if there is anything else within the programme that could be affecting MIDI clock output. The wierd thing is my Roland R8 will sync to the MOTU but the Virus and also an AN1x will not. Bloody wierd! How does MIDI clock work? Does it contain flags to indicate bar lines? How does song position pointer work? Can anybody out there give us chapter and verse on this? Can anyone reccomend a good book that explains it all? There's a chap from E-magic on this list I think (sorry I've fogotten your name) can you give me/us any clues. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 9 18:14:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: CKe9644719@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:59:44 +0000 Subject: Re: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>I think I'm missing a small feature on the virus. When using LFOs theat >are >>synced to MIDI-clock (I use this quite often) I'm never so lucky that the Virus syncs to the beginning of the bar. It syncs to somewhere in between which leads to very strange effects. Sometimes it really kills the >rhythm. >> >>So what about a controller that I could send once on the beginning of a bar, so that the Virus knows where the bar starts??? Or is there another way of syncing in Logic? >> > >I just checked it at my house. >It works fine. The LFO retriggers at the beginning of the next bar, if it was >not in sync until that. >Does the hint of Dimitri Sijperda solve your problem? > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access I still get this problem as well. If it aint the Virus it has to be something to do with the MIDI clock stream and I just don't know enough about that subject. I have tried using a MOTU MIDI express instead of my Opcode studio 64x but the Virus seems completely unable to sync anything to that! I have set MIDI clock output to the correct port in Logic but I'm not sure if there is anything else within the programme that could be affecting MIDI clock output. The wierd thing is my Roland R8 will sync to the MOTU but the Virus and also an AN1x will not. Bloody wierd! How does MIDI clock work? Does it contain flags to indicate bar lines? How does song position pointer work? Can anybody out there give us chapter and verse on this? Can anyone reccomend a good book that explains it all? There's a chap from E-magic on this list I think (sorry I've fogotten your name) can you give me/us any clues. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 9 19:30:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Forwarded: Re: Sync the LFO Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:20:00 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:12:59 +0000, S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: >How does MIDI clock work? Does it contain flags to indicate bar lines? How It's a series of pulses. That's all. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 9 21:36:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:34:11 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: RE: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >If it aint the Virus it has to be something to do with the MIDI clock stream and I just don't know enough about that subject. I have tried using a MOTU MIDI express instead of my Opcode studio 64x but the Virus seems completely unable to sync anything to that! I wasn't able to try the trick from Dimitri (my system is somewhat wrecked, and I'm having exams right now). But I guess that it doesn't help - my experience is that the virus always locks to some other bar. The tempo is perfect, though. But why I'm writing this mail is this: I do also use MIDI Express XT (that's from MotU - I guess they're very proud that they managed to update the drivers to 1.02. And these drivers are even ore buggy than version 1.00). :-(( Maybe this interface just doesn't send MIDI-Start??? Or is it a problem with Logic? Anyone has an idea how to check this? Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 9 23:47:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:43:41 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Forwarded: Re: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:12 PM +0100 on 09.02.1999 S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: >How does MIDI clock work? Does it contain flags to indicate bar lines? How does song position pointer work? I believe SPP is for syncing to other sequencers, that way they know where to start. There is a setting in Logic that says "Allow SPP while playing" this setting sends SPP all the time. Otherwise Logic just sends the SPP when it is being stopped. I haven'd tested this extensively but it seems that this setting improves some things when working with cycle mode and syncing to another sequencer. I had some big time problems once when I was trying to sync to ataris running cubase. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 10 08:17:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:14:50 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: !**picNIC**! Subject: RE: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From !**picNIC**! At 21:34 09.02.99 +0100, you wrote: >* From Martin Zuther > >>If it aint the Virus it has to be something to do with the MIDI clock stream >>and I just don't know enough about that subject. I have tried using a MOTU MIDI express instead of my Opcode studio 64x but the Virus seems completely unable to sync anything to that! Hi All! I don't know if this is helpy at all but: I use Cubase (PC) with a Midiman 2x4 and I don't have any syncing problems, but: I had some strange things happening yesterday! I normally have set Cubase to send out midi clock on one port for my virus ... and I had my external sequenzer connected to another port yesterday... when I now set midi timecode AND midi clock to this sequenzer port, the sequenzer played totally shit and all gear behind the sequenzer (in my midi chain) nearly made st strange, but ther was no sync at all....!! I just had to disable Timecode sending! So maybe that's the point at the virus? I haven't tried, but check this! Maybe he can't handle both or comes out a tune!? Try to send only Midi Clock, no Timecode! Maybe u can lemme know if this is shit or it helped! OK, that's all... Much fun;)) ***NIC*** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 10 18:32:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Leszek Gasiorek" To: Subject: No Display Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:36:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Leszek Gasiorek" Just joined the list and in good time, because today I powered on the Virus and the LCD display is completely blank. The LEDs come on, and the status seems to change if you push some of the buttons, but whatever I do there is nothing on the LCD. I thought maybe it was something obvious like the display contrast being turned right down - but - there doesn't seem to be a control for this. Any clues? Please help! -------------------------------------- Leszek Gasiorek leszek@controlzone.com www.controlzone.com -------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 10 15:15:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: CKe9644719@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:21:07 +0000 Subject: Re: Forwarded: Re: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>>How does MIDI clock work? Does it contain flags to indicate bar lines? >How >>It's a series of pulses. That's all. > >It is not really all. >What sequencer do you use? Logic 2.6 on Mac ppc Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 10 20:00:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Sync the LFO Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:52:45 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Martin Zuther wrote... >I wasn't able to try the trick from Dimitri (my system is somewhat wrecked, >and I'm having exams right now). But I guess that it doesn't help - my experience is that the virus always locks to some other bar. The tempo is perfect, though. Perhaps if you turned envelope mode on and then off for the LFO in question just before the music on that channel begins, the LFO would then reset itself at the next clock pulse and count from there? Or a key trigger message just before the first note-on, followed by key-trigger off BEFORE the note-off event arrives. I often do this manually when I am working on developing a new sequence and it works very neatly. I cannot say how it will function in MIDI, that really depends on how Access programmed the Virus. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 10 20:00:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: No Display Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:52:47 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Leszek wrote... >Just joined the list and in good time, because today I powered on the Virus >and the LCD display is completely blank. The LEDs come on, and the status seems to change if you push some of the buttons, but whatever I do there is nothing on the LCD. > >I thought maybe it was something obvious like the display contrast being turned right down - but - there doesn't seem to be a control for this. Good idea, and easy to test. Here is how: 1. Press the Control (CTRL) button. The LED should light up. 2. Press the right parameter button, marked >. Hold it down for 10 seconds. You should now be at the last entry in the Control menu. 3. Now press the left button ( < ) 4 times. You will be on the LCD contrast setting. 4. Turn the value knob (beside the - + buttons) all the way to the left, then all the way to the right. If it is LCD contrast, you will see the results. If nothing happens, your display is dead. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 11 01:00:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:56:09 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: RE: No Display Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther >Good idea, and easy to test. Here is how: There should even be an easier way: turn on the virus while holding LFO 1-Shape and LFO 2-Shape. The virus is (in some parameters) set to factory defaults, including display contrast. If it doesn't, do not press the buttons "MULTI" or "SINGLE", otherwise your edited sounds will be reset to factory defaults! Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 11 01:00:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 462023@pop.gmx.de Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:01:17 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Martin Zuther Subject: RE: Sync the LFO Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther Thanks, Anig! I'll try your ideas when Logic won't be crashing every five minutes. Something happened to my system... :-( By the way, I'm using Logic 3.6, and "send MTC" is unchecked. Christoph, I fear it's not Logic, but the MIDI Express that's making trouble. Maybe you remeber the discussion on this list when the virus seemed to run out of sync after some time. That problem is solved by you, but the interface or it's drivers didn't change. Martin mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 10 23:08:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:00:41 +0100 From: Jan Hildebrandt To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: No Display Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jan Hildebrandt >* From "Leszek Gasiorek" > >Just joined the list and in good time, because today I powered on the Virus and the LCD display is completely blank. The LEDs come on, and the status seems to change if you push some of the buttons, but whatever I do there is nothing on the LCD. I recently had the same problem (with OS 2.01)! I don't think that display contrast is an explanation; on my virus it's always set to a reasonable value, and I can't believe it changes itself after power cycling. The evening before that happened I had listened to the demo song and (after stopping it) switched off my virus. Could this be part of the problem? Whatever it was, it was the only (pseudo-)crash of that kind that has ever happened to my virus. I'm sorry, I can't remember what I did next after I saw the empty display - first I tried pushing some buttons etc. and then did a complete reset or simply switched the virus off an on - I don't know anymore. The phenomenon just disappeared. >I thought maybe it was something obvious like the display contrast being turned right down - but - there doesn't seem to be a control for this. This is wrong, of course. >Any clues? Please help! I'd also appreciate some hints. Jan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Hildebrandt, Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Pretzfelder Str. 12 D-90425 Nuernberg, Germany There's no such thing as gravity... the earth just sucks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 11 15:29:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Sync the LFO Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:28:47 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay >Meanwhile, to all the users that must think that the Virus is a box full of trouble, while reading this discussion, I should state that the Virus is possibly the only synth that syncs the LFO's to a sequence in a musical way. Well, from what I hear, the Audity2000 is supposed to be pretty flexible that way. But to back you up: I've used a LOT of gear, and the Virus is simply the *BEST* when it comes to syncing up to incoming clock. To have delays, Arps, and LFOs lock up as quickly as they do is a dream for me. In fact, the very first day I owned the Virus, I was able to do a full track with sync'ed stuff without even a manual. It's a beautifully designed machine. In contrast, my JV1080 purports to offer similar sync capabilities, but every time I try, I wind up with... less than stunning results. Plus, you have to go several menus deep on several DIFFERENT parameters to get everything synced up. (Mac using MOTU MTP and Performer) Keep up the good work. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 11 15:50:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sync the LFO Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:36:04 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:25:56 EST, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >trouble, while reading this discussion, I should state that the Virus is possibly the only synth that syncs the LFO's to a sequence in a musical way. I use this feature a lot. Especially with the MIDI-synced delay effects - a real favourite for step sequencing fun...;-) Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: softroom@btinternet.com web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 12 01:24:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Leszek Gasiorek" To: Subject: No Display - Sometimes Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:13:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Leszek Gasiorek" Thanks to all who gave suggestions about the blank display. Powering up the Virus while holding down LFO shape 1 and 2 suddenly gave me a display. I then responded No to the 3 questions about restoring factory defaults, at which point the display went blank again! This proved at least that the LCD is not broken, but why does it go blank? (By 'blank', I mean it is on, and glowing green, but no text is displayed). But... Then trying this again, the display seemed to come back. I had to try a few times. At one point I got a lot of strange numbers in the display. Is this intermittent behaviour a sign that something more serious is wrong with my Virus? (At present the display is back!) Leszek. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Zuther To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 11 February 1999 00:22 Subject: RE: No Display >* From Martin Zuther > >>Good idea, and easy to test. Here is how: > >There should even be an easier way: turn on the virus while holding LFO 1-Shape and LFO 2-Shape. The virus is (in some parameters) set to factory defaults, including display contrast. If it doesn't, do not press the buttons "MULTI" or "SINGLE", otherwise your edited sounds will be reset to factory defaults! > >Martin >mz_mail@gmx.de http://listen.to/mzuther ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 12 10:45:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:42:16 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Cubase Studio Module Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Has anyone seen flp Mott's Cubase Studio Driver Module for the Virus? I really would like to try it out, but it is nowhere to be found. flp, if you read this, perhaps you could mail it to me at this address Thanx ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 12 11:26:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cubase Studio Module Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:20:25 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:42:16, lowlifeform wrote: >Has anyone seen flp Mott's Cubase Studio Driver Module for the Virus? It's on the latest Cubase VST CD. At least it's on the one I have. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: softroom@btinternet.com web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 12 13:15:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:10:39 +0100 Subject: Here it is. (Was: Cubase Studio Module) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:42:16, lowlifeform wrote: >Has anyone seen flp Mott's Cubase Studio Driver Module for the Virus? > >I really would like to try it out, but it is nowhere to be found. It's contributed to canine. I received an apology mail from canine that it wasn't on the web yet due to a certain lack of time. I know binary postings are rather unwanted here but since there have been some requests again I attached the driver to this mail. It's only 3.56 KB, so let's please be tolerant and accept the Cubase users' suffering. Anyway, I'd like to hear about your experience and suggestions about the driver. And thankful praisings, of course. The zipfile contains the driver, the source plus an english and german readme. Now go and make the best music people ever have heard, will ye. CU flp Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:virsmdrv.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (0000A5A3)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 12 15:17:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:08:00 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Sync the LFO X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: >No, the problem you talk about was caused by horrible Midi-timing of several sequencer systems, what I haven't expected formerly. But this is not the problem here. > >But I'm working on a solution at the moment, and I have a clue what the problem is. >So let's continue this discussion after I finished this work. > >Meanwhile, to all the users that must think that the Virus is a box full of trouble, while reading this discussion, I should state that the Virus is possibly the only synth that syncs the LFO's to a sequence in a musical way. > >I mean, the only one *I* know. Am I right here? (Comments...) > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper Hi listers , hi Christoph You know that my virus "was" a box of trouble, but you helped me so much in this case. I´m now happy since month.No problems anymore. I never had any sync-problems, even with NT. Fact is : The virus is the best syncable , best sounding and best supported synth "I" know. Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 12 22:58:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: sound creation... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus i'm trying to cahnge my musical style little bit... i'm working more on differnt types of music.. like Trance and Goa.... ... neway... i'm trying to make a certain type of sound with the virus.. its sorta of a desert pad... used in LOTS of goa tracks/ desert goa tracks.. and synth lines... its very kewl sound.. i know that the Juno106 can make this sound.... and i know that the virus can do what the 106 can do in a way... i was told that this sound can be created same way as a organ sound is.... can the virus do organ sounds?? i havent come across one in the presets i dont think.. if u have ANY idea as to what a desert pad is or.. the music goa is...... and have any idea as to how i might go bout making this sound.. would be much appreciated :) Eric _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 14 07:31:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: sound creation... Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:21:49 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >i'm trying to cahnge my musical style little bit... i'm working more on differnt types of music.. like Trance and Goa.... Yay, another goa-head! There are several of us here on this list. ... neway... i'm trying to make a certain type of sound >with the virus.. its sorta of a desert pad... used in LOTS of goa tracks/ desert goa tracks.. and synth lines... Can you name some tracks you have heard the sound in? I am a poor composer/arranger, but I am getting increasingly comfortable as a sound designer, and I bought the Virus specifically to produce goa trance type sounds. I know what you mean about an ethereal floaty pad sound in this context, just recently I've created some patches that I hope capture that feeling of the wind blowing through you :) If you can point out some tracks which have the kind of sound you like I can probably work out how to create something similar and explain it. Bom! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 11:02:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: MP3 and real audio Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:53:17 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi List, You can visit my new homepage and download the MP3 our Real Audio files of the Access Virus Signature Set. www.robpapen.com With best regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) -TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 15:53:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:55:27 +0100 Subject: OT: MP3 and real audio From: "Raymund Beyer" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Raymund Beyer" >* From Marc Schlaile > >>Hi List, >> >>You can visit my new homepage and download the MP3 our Real Audio files of the Access Virus Signature Set. >>www.robpapen.com >> >>With best regards, >> >>Rob Papen > >rob, > >do you need a real audio server engine to realtime provide RA files on your site? i wanted to use this format, too but people told me that streaming formats need a dedicated engine application. > >best regards, > >marc I am interested in this topic too, so it would be nice to keep it public or forward it to me. Thanx Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 15:00:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Date: Mon, 15 Feb 99 15:02:29 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile >Hi List, > >You can visit my new homepage and download the MP3 our Real Audio files of the Access Virus Signature Set. >www.robpapen.com > >With best regards, > >Rob Papen rob, do you need a real audio server engine to realtime provide RA files on your site? i wanted to use this format, too but people told me that streaming formats need a dedicated engine application. best regards, marc _____________________________________________________________ power to the people of the new power geration babylonwaves media email:babylonwaves@usa.net _____________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 17:23:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:22:37 +0100 From: sebh X-Accept-Language: en,de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From sebh >do you need a real audio server engine to realtime provide RA files on your site? i wanted to use this format, too but people told me that streaming formats need a dedicated engine application. > hello! unfortunately, if you want to provide streaming realaudio, you have to get yourself the real audio server. There is hope, though... the 4.0 release of Quick Time well have "real" streaming - and it will be open source. (April '99) Sebastian                               sebastian handke                    seb.handke@rz.hu-berlin.de     http://www.culture.hu-berlin.de/SH/                     phon: +49 (0) 30 / 44 39 580 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 17:55:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Carsten Hohmann" To: Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:47:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Carsten Hohmann" you don't neet a special server. but the server should be fast enough. this means: without a special server there will sometimes be the problem, that it is to slow for realtime in 'rushhoures'. normally it should work without any problems. does somebody know, if it is the same with mp3-streaming formats? p.s: for real audio-streaming you need to link a metafile, not the ra-file itself. else it won't be a streaming but a download. a metafile is a *.ram file in which you write the url of your ra-file, or a complete playlist. -------- >> >>rob, >> >>do you need a real audio server engine to realtime provide RA files on your site? i wanted to use this format, too but people told me that streaming formats need a dedicated engine application. >> >>best regards, >> >>marc > >I am interested in this topic too, so it would be nice to keep it public or >forward it to me. > >Thanx > >Ray > > >----------------------------------------------------------- Raymund Beyer |_ ray@brainstorm-music.de >http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ H1, 1-2 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim >Fon +49 (0) 621 6858000 | Germany >----------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 18:00:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:47:40 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com This is not true. I provide RealAudio of three of my tunes on my site, which is not an RA server. The RealProducer G2 (PC) allows you to choose to format your content for delivery on either RA or RA-less servers. Blake http://members.aol.com/bhaber << unfortunately, if you want to provide streaming realaudio, you have to get yourself the real audio server. >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 18:26:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ebbrenna@acs-popmail Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:22:35 -0600 To: access-list@teklab.com From: elliott brennan Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From elliott brennan No! You don't... RealAudio 3.0 allows streaming over http. As long as you're using one of the new encoders, you're going to be fine. I've done it, on a mac even! The RA server does a better job of streaming, it's more reliable and if you have tons and tons of RA, like an online radio would, you would need it. But for smaller files, it won't be a problem. Make sure your webmaster sets the right file suffixes (.ra for realaudio, .ram, etc, etc). There's an article on Macworld online that explains it all. http://macworld.zdnet.com/ns-search/pages_collection/february.98/Column.4140.htm l elliott ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 19:40:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:34:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Marc Schlaile Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: maandag 15 februari 1999 15:13 Onderwerp: Re: MP3 and real audio |* From Marc Schlaile | |>Hi List, |> |>You can visit my new homepage and download the MP3 our Real Audio files of |>the Access Virus Signature Set. |>www.robpapen.com |> |>With best regards, |> |>Rob Papen | |rob, | |do you need a real audio server engine to realtime provide RA files on |your site? i wanted to use this format, too but people told me that |streaming formats need a dedicated engine application. | That is right: for realtime you need another server application.(more expensive to). So I just made a link to the files so you can download them and play the files in you system. |best regards, | |marc | |_____________________________________________________________ |power to the people of the new power geration | |babylonwaves media |email:babylonwaves@usa.net |_____________________________________________________________ | | | | | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 20:35:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jonathan Brainin" To: Subject: newbie questions Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:33:02 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jonathan Brainin" Hi all. I am a new owner/user of a Virus. I've got a couple of questions. First, my Virus (purchased from Guitar Center) came with OS 1.54. Is there difference in the faceplate of the Viruses that shipped with OS 1.xx vs. 2.xx? Do the new Viruses have a labeled section for the vocoder like the diagram in the 2.0 manual addendum? Second, is there a good dedicated editor program out there for the Virus? Thanks for your help, Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 20:58:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:01:14 -0800 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: newbie questions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Jonathan, welcome aboard and congradulations on buying the _best_ synth out there at the moment (for many moments in the past and probably quite a few to come). There is no faceplate change. The same knobs are, in vocoder mode, dedicated to a different parameter than is listed on the faceplate. Upgrade immediately to v2.01! DTM Jonathan Brainin wrote: >* From "Jonathan Brainin" > >Hi all. I am a new owner/user of a Virus. I've got a couple of questions. First, my Virus (purchased from Guitar Center) came with OS 1.54. Is there difference in the faceplate of the Viruses that shipped with OS 1.xx vs. 2.xx? Do the new Viruses have a labeled section for the vocoder like the diagram in the 2.0 manual addendum? > >Second, is there a good dedicated editor program out there for the Virus? > >Thanks for your help, >Jonathan > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 21:18:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:13:36 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: newbie questions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 14:33 15-2-99 -0500, you wrote: >Second, is there a good dedicated editor program out there for the Virus? Ehh, did you OPEN the box? ;-) You wont' really need a programm editor to my opinion. Just turn knobs and enjoy! That's the biig advantage of the Virus. I belvieve someone did some work on an editor. You could go to canine's page to see if there's an interesting link. But if you want to create sounds, try Programm 127, called " - start - ", whith a 'dull' saw-wave, which asks to be tweaked. Get to learn it well and you will have great sounds! I also suggest to read the manual from A-Z (which didn't do 100% either...), it will help you a lot finding out the possibilities of the Virus. And like DTM said, upgrade to v2.01. Good tweakin' luck! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 22:19:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:15:55 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: RE: sound creation... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus ---Anig Browl wrote: >Can you name some tracks you have heard the sound in? I am a poor composer/arranger, but I am getting increasingly comfortable as a sound >designer, and I bought the Virus specifically to produce goa trance type >sounds. I know what you mean about an ethereal floaty pad sound in this >context, just recently I've created some patches that I hope capture that >feeling of the wind blowing through you :) > >If you can point out some tracks which have the kind of sound you like I can >probably work out how to create something similar and explain it. Bom! > >Anig Browl > >well.. the best i can do is name 1:P.. the name of it is Shakta... Lepton Head (dedrah remix) its a UREAL track.. and its a perfect example of this sound i am talkign about.. if u have this track the sound comes it at 1:42.... its in a synth line its used in LOTS of goa tracks... if u have this track... lemme know if u know what i am tlakigna bout.. if u dont have this track... i have little exerpt of this sound from the track that i could send.... lemme know.. cyngus ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 22:25:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: RE: sound creation... To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus uhhhh.... on that song i said in last message.. shakta... a better example of this sound is at 3:46 its louder and easier to hear.... > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 23:07:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:44:35 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: newbie questions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 02:33 PM 2/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >* From "Jonathan Brainin" Hi all. I am a new owner/user of a Virus. I've got a couple of questions. First, my Virus (purchased from Guitar Center) came with OS 1.54. Is there difference in the faceplate of the Viruses that shipped with OS 1.xx vs. 2.xx? Do the new Viruses have a labeled section for the vocoder like the diagram in the 2.0 manual addendum? Hi Jonathan! Well done on purchasing a superlative synthesizer for your creative needs - it's truly an awesome instrument. There's no face-plate change for different Virus OS versions - the only indication of OS version is given when you first power up the Virus and it tells you the version in the LCD display. You may not know too much about your Virus yet, having just purchased it, so I thought I'd mention that it's very easy to upgrade your Virus to the latest Operating System. I've noticed that not a lot of US Virus owners are aware that it's really easy to upgrade the OS, because the stores that carry the Virus here are really clueless about this great instrument! Just read this web page for the details: http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/faq.html Search for the question: "How do I load the Virus with a system update?" (Hey Canine, it might be nice to add anchor tags to each question in the FAQ, so we can reference them directly...) And check out these too: http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/download/virus_addendum_20e.pdf http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/download/index.html Good luck! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 22:49:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jonathan Brainin" To: Subject: Re: newbie questions Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:46:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jonathan Brainin" Thanks for your help. I tried to update my Virus to v2.01 several times but have been unable to do so. I am able to transmit sysex to the Virus as the display shows which block it is being received. However, at the end of the file, the display hangs on "RECEIVE 2 127". There seems to be an end of file command missing. I am using Cakewalk Pro Audio 6.0 as the sequencer. Any ideas? thanks, Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:48 PM Subject: Re: newbie questions >Virus. And like DTM said, upgrade to v2.01. > >Good tweakin' luck! > >Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 23:50:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:46:47 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: newbie questions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hmmm, never heard that one before. Have you tried to download the upgrade again? An other browser to download it might also help. Or maybe it coud be Cakewalk, try it with jazz (www.jazz.com). Demo version will do. Alfo changing tempo may help. These are all the standard trikcs to begin with if sendin MIDI fails. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 15 23:53:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 75243617@iname.com (Unverified) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:55:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: 75243617 <75243617@iname.com> Subject: freeze on 'RECEIVE 2 127' Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From 75243617 <75243617@iname.com> Hi JB ! Well i know this problem ;) Cakewalk is not able to load Mid file with more than 256 SysEx message and there is ~ 1200 SysEx mess in the 2.01 OS...so cakewalk cut the file at 1/5 !!! To update OS use Cubase or the shareware "Wingroove" and slow the tempo (120 bpm) to avoid overload on virus wingroove -> http://www.cc.rim.or.jp/~hiroki/english/index.html CaM >* From "Jonathan Brainin" > >Thanks for your help. I tried to update my Virus to v2.01 several times but have been unable to do so. I am able to transmit sysex to the Virus as the display shows which block it is being received. However, at the end of the file, the display hangs on "RECEIVE 2 127". There seems to be an end of file command missing. > >I am using Cakewalk Pro Audio 6.0 as the sequencer. > >Any ideas? > >thanks, >Jonathan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dimitri Sijperda >To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:48 PM >Subject: Re: newbie questions >>Virus. And like DTM said, upgrade to v2.01. >> >>Good tweakin' luck! >> >>Dimitri. > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 00:20:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Leszek Gasiorek" To: Subject: Virus Virus. Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:12:57 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Leszek Gasiorek" Now my Virus is really poorly. Apart from the display which still comes and goes, I get garbled characters sometimes appearing, cyclical noises coming out of the audio outs when it's not even being triggered, and I can't load V2.01, every time it gets to 'Don't Touch Me And Please Wait', well I wait and wait and it just hangs. Anyone had any of these problems? Have I just got a dodgy one? -------------------------------------- Leszek Gasiorek leszek@controlzone.com www.controlzone.com -------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 08:47:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:43:43 +0100 From: ANA3STH To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe anaesth.voph@wanadoo.fr Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ANA3STH -- _______________________________________________________________ S.ROLLAND anaesth@wanadoo.fr ANA3STh is an elektro.industrial.project from Paris ANA3STh HOMEPAGE: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/anaesth/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 17 07:21:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:56:28 +0100 From: sebh X-Accept-Language: en,de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From sebh well, yes, but then it's not "real" streaming. You will probably notice as soon as you want to provide large files.                               sebastian handke                    seb.handke@rz.hu-berlin.de     http://www.culture.hu-berlin.de/SH/                     phon: +49 (0) 30 / 44 39 580 BHaber@aol.com wrote: > >* From BHaber@aol.com > >This is not true. I provide RealAudio of three of my tunes on my site, which is not an RA server. The RealProducer G2 (PC) allows you to choose to format your content for delivery on either RA or RA-less servers. > >Blake >http://members.aol.com/bhaber > ><< unfortunately, if you want to provide >streaming realaudio, you have to get yourself the real audio server. >> >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 10:32:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:32:33 +0100 From: molter X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: freeze on 'RECEIVE 2 127' Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From molter hi. i wonder if every cakewalk/virus user experiences necessarily the same cakewalk sysex /midi dump problems? haven't there been some quotes here in the list, where some users couldn't find any misfunction? i would like to see a definite list of features cakewalk does not support with virus dumps. i often dumped whole arrangements back to the pc with cw, no error occured, but i never tried to reload the data to the virus. will the dumped data be damaged? btw whats the problem with cw, did anybody tell them about the problems, how did they react? cheers molly 75243617 schrieb: >* From 75243617 <75243617@iname.com> > >Hi JB ! > >Well i know this problem ;) > >Cakewalk is not able to load Mid file with more than 256 SysEx message and there is ~ 1200 SysEx mess in the 2.01 OS...so cakewalk cut the file at 1/5 !!! > >To update OS use Cubase or the shareware "Wingroove" and slow the tempo (120 bpm) to avoid overload on virus wingroove -> http://www.cc.rim.or.jp/~hiroki/english/index.html > >CaM > >>* From "Jonathan Brainin" >> >>Thanks for your help. I tried to update my Virus to v2.01 several times but have been unable to do so. I am able to transmit sysex to the Virus as the display shows which block it is being received. However, at the end of the file, the display hangs on "RECEIVE 2 127". There seems to be an end of file command missing. >> >>I am using Cakewalk Pro Audio 6.0 as the sequencer. >> >>Any ideas? >> >>thanks, >>Jonathan >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dimitri Sijperda >>To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:48 PM >>Subject: Re: newbie questions >>>Virus. And like DTM said, upgrade to v2.01. >>> >>>Good tweakin' luck! >>> >>>Dimitri. >> >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 13:12:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pokeweed@pipeline.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:07:31 -0500 Subject: Re: freeze on 'RECEIVE 2 127' Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pokeweed@pipeline.com Well, I've never had a problem sending or recieving patch dumps, single or bank, from the virus into cakewalk 6 or 8. I DID have problems trying to update the virus OS using cakewalk, but I had the same problems trying to update a JP-8K. I solved the problem with the JP8K by turning off the sending of all midi time-type messeges, patch changes, metronome, and slowing the tempo down to 100. I haven't gone back and tried to re-update the virus using this technique, but perhapse it would work? DeDMaN >hi. >i wonder if every cakewalk/virus user experiences necessarily the same cakewalk sysex /midi dump problems? >haven't there been some quotes here in the list, where some users couldn't find any misfunction? >i would like to see a definite list of features cakewalk does not support with virus dumps. > >i often dumped whole arrangements back to the pc with cw, no error occured, but i never tried to reload the data to the virus. will the dumped data be damaged? > >btw whats the problem with cw, did anybody tell them about the problems, how did they react? > >cheers molly > > >75243617 schrieb: > >>* From 75243617 <75243617@iname.com> >> >>Hi JB ! >> >>Well i know this problem ;) >> >>Cakewalk is not able to load Mid file with more than 256 SysEx message and there is ~ 1200 SysEx mess in the 2.01 OS...so cakewalk cut the file at 1/5 !!! >> >>To update OS use Cubase or the shareware "Wingroove" and slow the tempo (120 bpm) to avoid overload on virus wingroove -> http://www.cc.rim.or.jp/~hiroki/english/index.html >> >>CaM >> >>>* From "Jonathan Brainin" >>> >>>Thanks for your help. I tried to update my Virus to v2.01 several times but have been unable to do so. I am able to transmit sysex to the Virus as the display shows which block it is being received. However, at the end of the file, the display hangs on "RECEIVE 2 127". There seems to be an end of file command missing. >>> >>>I am using Cakewalk Pro Audio 6.0 as the sequencer. >>> >>>Any ideas? >>> >>>thanks, >>>Jonathan >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Dimitri Sijperda To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:48 PM >>>Subject: Re: newbie questions >>>>Virus. And like DTM said, upgrade to v2.01. >>>> >>>>Good tweakin' luck! >>>> >>>>Dimitri. >>> >>> >>> >>>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >>> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 15:50:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:27:04 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: one year!!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:38 AM +0100 on 16.02.1999 weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >Well folx... its just about the one year aniversary of this mailing list and canines corresponding homepage. I's like to thank jay/teklab for continuing to host the mailing list and canine for his continued work and updates to the suppport page. Were very lucky to have both of these services!!!! Let's not forget, whose idea this entire site was, weld... after all you pushed me to do it at all...! I must say it's been a fun year and I enjoy maintaining this site and reading the list...! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 15:50:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:33:12 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: newbie questions Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:44 PM +0100 on 15.02.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: > > (Hey Canine, it might be nice to add anchor tags to each question in the FAQ, so we can reference them directly...) you are right. I have reorganized the FAQ into more meaningful categories and will upload it after I manage to make sense (=html) of the Word file it is in right now... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 15:50:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:35:41 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus Virus. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:12 AM +0100 on 16.02.1999 Leszek Gasiorek wrote: >* From "Leszek Gasiorek" > >Now my Virus is really poorly. Apart from the display which still comes and goes, >I get garbled characters sometimes appearing, cyclical noises coming out of the >audio outs when it's not even being triggered, and I can't load V2.01, every time >it gets to 'Don't Touch Me And Please Wait', well I wait and wait and it just hangs. >Anyone had any of these problems? Have I just got a dodgy one? Sounds like something is terribly wrong with your machine. Try resetting the Virus: hold both LFO shape buttons pressed while turning on the Virus until the display reads "Initializing... buffers" and stuff like that. Answer "no" to the questions aboiut reloading factory multis and singles or you will lose your own sounds. see if the problem persists and if you are able to load the new OS then. this magically clears up many many weird problems... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 17 07:16:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:24:23 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MP3 and real audio Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com I would think the ability to stream 10-12 minute songs, no problem, would be "real" enough for the average person who wants to present some tunes. << well, yes, but then it's not "real" streaming. You will probably notice as soon as you want to provide large files. >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 16 22:13:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:16:08 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: virus ofcourse Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong hi! I'm getting my virus tomorrow! i'm thrilled! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 17 07:21:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:55:35 +0100 From: "Valentijn Steenhoudt" To: Subject: Re: virus ofcourse Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Valentijn Steenhoudt" Virus forever!!!! <<< Jasper de Jong 2/16 10:44p >>> * From Jasper de Jong hi! I'm getting my virus tomorrow! i'm thrilled! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 17 01:10:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:07:54 +0100 From: moving forward Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus ofcourse Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From moving forward Hi, i've been on this list for some weeks now. I'm John Machielsen, also from the Netherlands. Im gonna buy my Virus in the next 2 weeks. Anyone on this list from the Noord Brabant region? maybe we can hookup sometime and learn from eachother? Greetz, John Machielsen -- http://culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i* From Jasper de Jong > >hi! > >I'm getting my virus tomorrow! > >i'm thrilled! > >jasper >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 17 09:26:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:21:47 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus ofcourse WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! Well, you are gladly invited to join the meeting of the EVP (European Virus Posse), which will have a meeting in about end of april. OUr homepage is at http://145.99.128.7/evp The meeting is in Amsterdam. Dimitri. moving forward schreef: >* From moving forward > Hi, i've been on this list for some weeks now. I'm John Machielsen, also from the Netherlands. > >Im gonna buy my Virus in the next 2 weeks. Anyone on this list from the Noord Brabant region? > >maybe we can hookup sometime and learn from eachother? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 17 09:26:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:22:21 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:virus ofcourse WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! WIll you treat us on 'biscuits with mice' when you have your newborn baby? Dimitri. >* From Jasper de Jong > hi! > >I'm getting my virus tomorrow! > >i'm thrilled! > >jasper ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 17 15:54:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:49:16 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:VIRUS WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! I don't think that the virus sounds like one specific synth. It parly depends on how you use it. You can make FM sounds with it like a DX-7, or moogy sounds. If you want to hear some, Canine has some interesting tracks in which the possibilities of the Virus are used. Inlcuding the vocoder of OS 2.0 The URL is below each mail of the list. I have a page too, it's at http:/145.99.128.7/dimi and it contains some lo-fi mp3's. The last 4 are mainly made with the Virus. Dimitri. HAVET Gauthier schreef: >Hy,>I love the Virus but never tried it. I would like to know which synth can sound like a Virus, and where can i >download songs on the net cause i'm going to by one. Thanx ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 00:43:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: Nicola.Neuse@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:23:28 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: !**picNIC**! Subject: Sync my Virus to Video Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From !**picNIC**! Hi All! This is a strange question for the virus list, but it's maybe the only list I can imagine to write this to... (or not???) I want to sync my music to a video (I have gotten a video from my dad, he cuttet it ...) and now I have a song and I want to do some special efx and music for this video with my virus (<- it's not totally out'a topic!! ;-))). I have a PC + Cubase + Portman 2x4 + Virus + Sampler and I want to get the music in sync with this video. Do I need some special equipment to sync to (maybe my VHS video recorder is not ok?) or can I somehow use the SEND MTC / CLOCK feature in Cubase? Is it possible to record the MTC / Mclock onto audiotracks (like eg. a tape or the VHS audio track??) Maybe someone here has experiences with this or can give me some links?! Would be really cool! PS: Ah, maybe it's better if u mail me privately at Nicola.Neuse@uni-duesseldorf.de , cause it is nothing for the Virus list! ;-)) Thank u all for your patience... Best wishes *****Nic***** ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 07:42:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jim Chilluffo" To: Subject: Hello Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:39:50 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I'm looking for a retailer for the Virus, there are none in my area(Grand Rapid, MI). Any place close to me that anyone knows about? Please reply. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 08:13:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:16:53 -0800 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hello Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Music Central $1150. http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ I can not recommend EuroSynth. DTM. Jim Chilluffo wrote: I'm looking for a retailer for the Virus, there are none in my area(Grand Rapid, MI). Any place close to me that anyone knows about? Please reply. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 08:37:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Digital - X" To: Subject: Re: Hello Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:31:05 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Guitar Center for me - I also *will not* recommend Eurosynth. All are advised to stay away. Tom -----Original Message----- From: DTM <catron3@slip.net> To: access-list@teklab.com <access-list@teklab.com> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Hello Music Central $1150. http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ I can not recommend EuroSynth. DTM. Jim Chilluffo wrote: I'm looking for a retailer for the Virus, there are none in my area(Grand Rapid, MI). Any place close to me that anyone knows about? Please reply. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 10:18:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Spot the Virus Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:11:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi List and especially the Dutch infected ones, The Virus has enterd the TOP50 in the CD charts in Holland with the CD "Temple of Love" "Erotic Dreams". Even the first song "Temple of Love" has the Virus [B53 543 Seq RP] sound in it. The Virus is used a lot also in song 6 "Valley of Dreams" with [IQ-PAD] [Clocks] and external filter ect. The CD will be released also in Germany and France. The Dutch version you can find on www.dinomusic.nl With best regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) -TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 10:30:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:25:39 +0100 Subject: Re: Sync my Virus to Video Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:23:28 +0100, !**picNIC**! wrote: >* From !**picNIC**! > >Hi All! > >This is a strange question for the virus list, but it's maybe the only list I can imagine to write this to... (or not???) I want to sync my music to a video (I have gotten a video from my dad, he cuttet it ...) and now I have a song and I want to do some special efx and music for this video with my virus (<- it's not totally out'a topic!! ;-))). Well, this IS rather off topic since it's not concerning the VIRUS. Anyway, there are ways to proceed: If you don't need the original audio data on your video: Get a MIDI to SMTP synchronizer and record an SMTP timecode to the audio track of your video (often called audio dubbing function). If you replay the video with the synchronizer connected to the video machine's audio out it will produce midi timecode. You can now use the timecode to synchronize your cubase. Some modern video recorders have built-in timecode devices. This is nor SMTP neither MIDI, but there are conversion devices. The third method is to completely digitize your video using a TV card with video input (and lots of fast disk space, of course). You can then produce a small AVI extract (lets say 80x80 pixel) and view it inside cubase using the avi monitor module. Once your music is done you record it onto a wavefile. You can now add your wavefile to your video using an appropriate editor (e.g. Soundforge). Finally, don't forget to produce a trailer showing the comment: "During the making of this video no VIRUSes were harmed or mistreated" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 17:24:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jim Chilluffo" To: Subject: Re: Hello Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:20:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I take it Esynth sux! Emu usually make cool things. Is the Virus still a great analogue? -----Original Message----- From: Digital - X <digix@mindspring.com> To: access-list@teklab.com <access-list@teklab.com> Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 2:37 AM Subject: Re: Hello Guitar Center for me - I also *will not* recommend Eurosynth. All are advised to stay away. Tom -----Original Message----- From: DTM <catron3@slip.net> To: access-list@teklab.com <access-list@teklab.com> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Hello Music Central $1150. http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ I can not recommend EuroSynth. DTM. Jim Chilluffo wrote: I'm looking for a retailer for the Virus, there are none in my area(Grand Rapid, MI). Any place close to me that anyone knows about? Please reply. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 20:08:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: LFOs & Envelopes Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:00:18 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" A friend of mine was looking at the Virus last night and is very impressed. He said there was one feature he would like to see on the Virus which he has on an Oberheim expander: the ability to trigger the envelope with an LFO. This allows you to produce sounds without having a keyboard attached and has some very interesting possibilities. Any chance of seeing this in a future OS upgrade? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 21:27:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:11:07 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Access Virus for sale (not mine!) Cc: music-bar@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan A friend of mine needs to sell his Access Virus as soon as possible. Mint condition, I will vouch for him as a reliable guy, and if needed I will broker the deal too. He wants US$1000 firm, and he's in Los Angeles. More details about the Virus can be found here: http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access/virus.html Let me know. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 18 22:18:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: wolf_33@excite.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: need help Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:16:07 PST X-Sender-Ip: 193.158.190.213 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From wolf_33@excite.com Hi! hope someone can help me: Since updating to V2.00 it is not possible to _store_ any transfered OS. During the MIDI-upload process the blocks are correct counted. But when selecting STORE in the store/cancel - dialog, the display says: 'DO NOT TOUCH ME' -E: No Bank No! I use the same configuration and settings as I did when updating the earlier versions. (Bought the VIRUS with 1.52, update to 1.53 OK, update to 1.54 OK, skip 1.58, update to 2.00 OK) PC-Environment: Cubase Score VST 3.55 _Demo_ Windows NT 4.0 Turtle Beach Daytona PCI thanx! wolf _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 01:19:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:12:32 +0100 From: Jan Hildebrandt To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RM1x?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jan Hildebrandt I'm thinking about buying a hardware sequencer for using it together with my virus (virus rules! - think different! :-)) - especially in live situations software sequencers running on ordinary computers with the all-known typical problems ("fatal system error #31425") are a kind of nightmare, no acceptable solution. To me it seems as if Yamaha's new RM1x was a quite interesting piece of gear. Has anyone of you out there tried it yet? (Sorry, this may in fact seem a little bit off-topic on a virus list...). And if so: what about using it together with a virus? Experiences? Known problems? Is it possible to record / play back sysex data with an RM1x? Are there any other hardware sequencers that you could recommend, especially for use with a virus? Thanks in advance, Jan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Hildebrandt, Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Pretzfelder Str. 12 D-90425 Nuernberg, Germany There's no such thing as gravity... the earth just sucks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 01:31:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:16:54 -0800 To: hwseq-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: RM1x?? Cc: access-list@teklab.com, jan@vermeer.franken.de, music-bar@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Maybe someone on the Hardware Sequencers mailing list (hwseq-list) or the music-bar can answer these questions... Oh, and Jan, we *do* have a mailing list here at TekLab for RM1X discussions. It's getting a fair bit of traffic now, so you know ... http://www.teklab.com/services/mailinglists/ hwseq-list - for discussion concerning the Yamaha hardware sequencers. >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:12:32 +0100 >From: Jan Hildebrandt To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: RM1x?? >X-Mailer: XCmail 0.99.4 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. >X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness > >* From Jan Hildebrandt > >I'm thinking about buying a hardware sequencer for using it together with my virus (virus rules! - think different! :-)) - especially in live situations software sequencers running on ordinary computers with the all-known typical problems ("fatal system error #31425") are a kind of nightmare, no acceptable solution. > >To me it seems as if Yamaha's new RM1x was a quite interesting piece of gear. Has anyone of you out there tried it yet? (Sorry, this may in fact seem a little bit off-topic on a virus list...). > >And if so: what about using it together with a virus? Experiences? Known problems? Is it possible to record / play back sysex data with an RM1x? > >Are there any other hardware sequencers that you could recommend, especially for use with a virus? > >Thanks in advance, > >Jan > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >J. Hildebrandt, Dipl.-Inf. (FH) > >Pretzfelder Str. 12 >D-90425 Nuernberg, Germany > >There's no such thing as gravity... the earth just sucks > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 11:27:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Leszek Gasiorek" To: Subject: Re: -E No Bank No! Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:42:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Leszek Gasiorek" Don't know what causes this, but I had exactly the same problem (among many others!). Turnkey service department say my Virus is very ill, and it's gone back to Germany for repairs. But, your problem may not be this serious. Good luck Leszek. -----Original Message----- From: wolf_33@excite.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: 18 February 1999 21:23 Subject: need help >* From wolf_33@excite.com > >Hi! > >hope someone can help me: >Since updating to V2.00 it is not possible to _store_ any transfered OS. >During the MIDI-upload process the blocks are correct counted. But when selecting STORE in the store/cancel - dialog, the display says: > >'DO NOT TOUCH ME' >-E: No Bank No! > >I use the same configuration and settings as I did when updating the earlier versions. >(Bought the VIRUS with 1.52, update to 1.53 OK, >update to 1.54 OK, skip 1.58, update to 2.00 OK) > >PC-Environment: >Cubase Score VST 3.55 _Demo_ >Windows NT 4.0 >Turtle Beach Daytona PCI > >thanx! >wolf > > > > >_______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 15:39:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:35:18 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RM1x?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket di-mi@dds.nl wrote: >Since it's quite easy to assign velocity to whatever with the virus, this 'restriction' is no big deal. How do you assign velocity to, say, lfo depth, lfo rate, sub osc level, env sustain level, filter balance, osc 2 detune, twin detune, chorus send level, punch intensity? I hope I'm just overlooking something, otherwise I don't think this can be done. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 11:55:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:51:04 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: power-cut during OS upgrade Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform As a matter of interest, what would happen to my Virus if there were a power-cut while the on-board FLASH is being written to during a system upgrade? (i.e. loss of power while the display still says "DO NOT TOUCH ME") Would it be dead forever? Would I have to return it to access? (has any brave user tried this out???) -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 11:55:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:51:24 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:RM1x?? WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Jan Hildebrandt schreef: >gear. Has anyone of you out there tried it yet? (Sorry, this may in fact >seem a little bit off-topic on a virus list...).<<< I don't think it's off topic! I am interested in the rm1x too, especially in comination with my virus. The timing will have to be very stable, since the virus sends a lot of midi controls if you record your tweakin. No problems like that with samplers and standard modules! >Are there any other hardware sequencers that you could recommend, >especially for use with a virus?<<< Well, I have decided to buy a Doepfer Regelwerk, which I ordered but I don't have it yet. It's a controller/step sequencer. Though limited compared to stadard sequencers, it is very good for my music I think. As soon as I have it, I'll put an mp3 on my page, with a virus/regelwerk only song. At this moment, my favourite combination still is my virus with.... Fasttracker 2.08! Stable as a Dutch Dike! A short descrition of how I am gonna use the regelwerk in sequencer mode: It has 8 faders for midi controllers, an 16 faders for the 16 steps of the sequencer. I can choose which of the simultaneously looping patterns of 16 step patterns i want to control. Each pattern can have 8 theme-possibilities. So a bass tune may have 8 themes for instance. Each step in a pattern has 2 controls: MIDI-note pitch (+on/off) and velocity. Since it's quite easy to assign velocity to whatever with the virus, this 'restriction' is no big deal. Now for the 8 MIDI faders: They can send for anything, max 30 byte SysEx messages to MIDI controller. I want to use them as a 'mixing console' for.. the eight tracks! Finally, I can record all my MIDI messages to a PC (I hope... :-p ), and thus make a recording of my performance. By the way, you can use it as a 24x faderbox too in control mode, and in sequencer mode it has 8 connectors for CV/Gate (for your MS-10, MS-20, or whatever analogue CV-equipment you have) Good luck with deciding what to choose! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 13:09:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:04:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: power-cut during OS upgrade Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner At 10:51 19.02.99, you wrote: >As a matter of interest, Haha ! Everything, that is forbidden is very interesting, isn't it ??? :) >what would happen to my Virus if there >were a power-cut while the on-board FLASH is being written to during a system upgrade? (i.e. loss of power while the display still says "DO NOT TOUCH ME") > >Would it be dead forever? Would I have to return it to access? (has any brave user tried this out???) Yes: Leszek Gasiorek and wolf_33@excite.com probably ;) Procedure to write a program on a flash is like this: 1) you have to erase whole blocks in the flash (in virus they are 64 KBytes) This happens, when you see the 2 digit in the right edge of the display 2) then you can new-program the flash - byte per byte This happens, when you see the 6 digits run up right beneath "programming". The Program-code doing this cleaning and storage is copied right before this "burning" to the battery-backuped-RAM, usualy containing the edit-buffers. When switching the power off and on during "burning to flash" the Micro-Controller tries to execute program-code from the flash (like everytime after a RESET-Signal-like your PC (opr MAC) - BUT THERE IS NO PROGRAM-CODE YET ! Because of this, your VIRUS will go "dead" 'till it gets a new flash with executable program-code again. That's all...very unspectacular ! Don't try it: It's not very interesting anymore to unpower your poor VIRUS during flash-burning.... Jörg Meißner access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 16:00:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RM1x?? Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:55:39 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:26:03 +0000, Meister wrote: >I ordered just a NOTRON 2 from Latronic. It4s more expensive(2000DM) than the yamaha, but you have 4 rows with 16knobs. And it has many special tricks - if you want to know more: >http://www.1.notron.com/notron/ Are you sure it has 16 knobs? I rather thought it was 4 rows but one knob per row for velocity edit and a single knob for setting note values etc. A remarkable thing but I don't think its hardware is much different to the original version... Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: softroom@btinternet.com web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 16:24:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:RM1x?? Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:20:54 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" First I better introduce myself. I'm new on the list, and I joined to see what's going on, what you can do with a Virus and what sort of trouble people run in to. I'm planning to purchase a Virus within the next month or so. You say you are using the Virus with FT2.08! Erh... Will it then be polyphonic? And isn't FT2.08 rather limited for this purpose? I hope it's not a dumb question. :-) Anyway, I'm thinking of using my (yes, please kill me ;-)) MC-303 as hardware sequencer. I'm fully aware that I can't use the Virus to the max this way, but I haven't got money for a decent hardware sequencer at the moment... And my PC is in DK, and here I am, in England... Anyway, cheers! -FutureVirus >From owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 02:56:25 1999 Received: from [207.215.53.36] by hotmail.com (1.1) with SMTP id MHotMailB8968E586CB9D1017090CFD73524520B0; Fri Feb 19 02:56:25 1999 >Received: (from majordomo@localhost) > by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA08725 for access-list-outgoing; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:56:24 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >Received: from k9.dds.nl (k9.dds.nl [194.109.21.19]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA08722 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:56:21 -0800 From: di-mi@dds.nl >Received: from moronic.edu.dds.nl (webmail@moronic.edu.dds.nl [194.109.21.17]) > by k9.dds.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04806 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:52:01 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <497781414.919425084371.JavaMail.di-mi@dds.nl> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:51:24 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re:RM1x?? >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. >X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness > >* From di-mi@dds.nl > > >Jan Hildebrandt schreef: >>gear. Has anyone of you out there tried it yet? (Sorry, >this may in fact >>seem a little bit off-topic on a virus list...).<<< >I don't think it's off topic! I am interested in the rm1x too, especially in comination with my virus. The timing >will have to be very stable, since the virus sends a lot of >midi controls if you record your tweakin. No problems like that with samplers and standard modules! > >>Are there any other hardware sequencers that you could >recommend, >>especially for use with a virus?<<< >Well, I have decided to buy a Doepfer Regelwerk, which I ordered but I don't have it yet. It's a controller/step sequencer. Though limited compared to stadard sequencers, it >is very good for my music I think. As soon as I have it, I'll put an mp3 on my page, with a virus/regelwerk only song. At this moment, my favourite combination still is my virus with.... Fasttracker 2.08! Stable as a Dutch Dike! A short descrition of how I am gonna use the regelwerk in sequencer mode: > >It has 8 faders for midi controllers, an 16 faders for the 16 steps of the sequencer. I can choose which of the simultaneously looping patterns of 16 step patterns i want to control. > >Each pattern can have 8 theme-possibilities. So a bass tune may have 8 themes for instance. Each step in a pattern has 2 >controls: MIDI-note pitch (+on/off) and velocity. Since it's >quite easy to assign velocity to whatever with the virus, this 'restriction' is no big deal. > >Now for the 8 MIDI faders: They can send for anything, max 30 byte SysEx messages to MIDI controller. I want to use them as a 'mixing console' for.. the eight tracks! > >Finally, I can record all my MIDI messages to a PC (I hope... :-p ), and thus make a recording of my performance. > >By the way, you can use it as a 24x faderbox too in control mode, and in sequencer mode it has 8 connectors for CV/Gate (for your MS-10, MS-20, or whatever analogue CV-equipment you have) > >Good luck with deciding what to choose! > > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 19 15:20:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:26:03 +0000 From: Meister Organization: Institute of Immunology To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RM1x?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Meister > > >Are there any other hardware sequencers that you could recommend, especially for use with a virus? > > I ordered just a NOTRON 2 from Latronic. It´s more expensive(2000DM) than the yamaha, but you have 4 rows with 16knobs. And it has many special tricks - if you want to know more: http://www.1.notron.com/notron/ Did somebody hear the new optical record "wormhole" from virus records?? W O W ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 20 00:04:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: s-cappiello@pop.ski.mskcc.org Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:04:06 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Steven Cappiello Subject: Re: RM1x?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steven Cappiello > >I ordered just a NOTRON 2 from Latronic. It´s more expensive(2000DM) than the yamaha, but you have 4 rows with 16knobs. And it has many special tricks - if you want to know more: >http://www.1.notron.com/notron/ it's http://www1.notron.com/notron/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 20 01:34:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:29:39 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: RM1x?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda AArgh! I gues this was just a 'child of the thought': It is not true! I wish it weretrue, but there's only 10 options you can dicerct to. (10 simultaneously though) Bummer! Dimitri. At 06:35 19-2-99 +0000, you wrote: >* From Ronald Pieket di-mi@dds.nl wrote: >>Since it's quite easy to assign velocity to whatever with the virus, this 'restriction' is no big deal. > >How do you assign velocity to, say, lfo depth, lfo rate, sub osc level, env sustain level, filter balance, osc 2 detune, twin detune, chorus send level, punch intensity? I hope I'm just overlooking something, otherwise I don't think >this can be done. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 20 01:46:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:42:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: ft208 & mc-303 (Re:RM1x??) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 07:20 19-2-99 PST, you wrote: >You say you are using the Virus with FT2.08! Erh... Will it then be polyphonic? And isn't FT2.08 rather limited for this purpose? I hope it's not a dumb question. :-) No Its not a dumb question, and I am sure there are better sequencers than ft2.08. It's a very old sampling programme, with MIDI note on/off capabilities. And it is polyphonic, but very unpractical. The only strong points are that its very stable, I know it by head so I can use it very well, and it is very pattern oriented. But those restrictions force me to work on a different way, I can only programm the themes, the twiddling of the knobs had to be done manually and is never the same. And that gives good results. >Anyway, I'm thinking of using my (yes, please kill me ;-)) MC-303 as hardware sequencer. I'm fully aware that I can't use the Virus to the max this way, but I haven't got money for a decent hardware sequencer at the moment... And my PC is in DK, and here I am, in England... Some people suggested me to buy an MC-303 just for the sequener.., like the sounds would be horrible, but the sequencer very good... If it's good for you it's a good sequencer. Meanwhile I can't wait to see my regelwerk... Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 20 04:45:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: prmlscrm@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:42:24 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Primal Scream Subject: Re: ft208 & mc-303 (Re:RM1x??) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Primal Scream Just incase yer interested.. i'm selling an mc303.. thanks, Eric > >>Anyway, I'm thinking of using my (yes, please kill me ;-)) MC-303 as hardware sequencer. I'm fully aware that I can't use the Virus to the max this way, but I haven't got money for a decent hardware sequencer at the moment... And my PC is in DK, and here I am, in England... >Some people suggested me to buy an MC-303 just for the sequener.., like the sounds would be horrible, but the sequencer very good... If it's good for you it's >a good sequencer. Meanwhile I can't wait to see my regelwerk... > >Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 20 11:04:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RM1x?? Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:51:47 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:51:24 +0000 (GMT), di-mi@dds.nl wrote: >mode, and in sequencer mode it has 8 connectors for CV/Gate (for your MS-10, MS-20, or whatever analogue CV-equipment you have) Remember that Korg's MS series use Hz Volt. Only the MS50 had a Oct/Volt input too. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email: softroom@btinternet.com ### ### Web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ### ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 21 12:53:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:44:21 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: sync delay to clock in multi mode? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf hi list. uhm, maybe i m being stupid, but, err, how do you sync the delay time to midi clock in multi mode? in single mode, it s easy: there is a value called "clock" in the delay menu. the manual mentions that same value for the multi-delay, too, but somehow i cant find it in my virus! am i just too blind to see it or could it be that that value has somehow been forgotten or something?! please help, cause i need it. thanx, mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 00:54:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:47:17 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: anyone, anyone, virus for sale?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:36 PM +0100 on 21.02.1999 Herb Ivore wrote: >green eggs and ham sale i am ham or spam flim flam? Hmmmm... curioser and curioser... what#s with you? you don't have a Virus, but could it be, you have a prion...? ;) Good luck on your quest... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 00:54:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:49:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: sync delay to clock in multi mode? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:24 PM +0100 on 21.02.1999 michael wolf wrote: >when i press 11x, i get "DELAY MULTI Time", on the left of that "EffegtSend", on the right "DELAY MULTI Feedback", but i can press as often and as hard as i want, i dont get "Clock", like in single mode. > >funny that you dont seem to have that problem. maybe youre using a different os version? i use 2.01. that is really weird. It's not april first, so I am assuming you aren't kidding...;) Have you tried resetting your Virus? you should certainly do that. On my Virus clock is always there, with 2.01. In Multi, Single and Multisingle mode. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 01:05:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:57:46 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: RM1x?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:35 AM +0100 on 19.02.1999 Ronald Pieket wrote: >How do you assign velocity to, say, lfo depth, lfo rate, sub osc level, env sustain level, filter balance, osc 2 detune, twin detune, chorus send level, punch intensity? I hope I'm just overlooking something, otherwise I don't think >this can be done. I think you would only need a modulation matrix for this one, wouldn't you? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 21 14:14:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:09:28 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: sync delay to clock in multi mode? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Hello! Op Sun, 21 Feb 1999, michael wolf schreef: >* From michael wolf uhm, maybe i m being stupid, but, err, >how do you sync the delay time to midi clock in multi mode? in single mode, it s easy: there is a value called "clock" in the delay menu. the manual mentions that same value for the multi-delay, too, but somehow i cant find it in my virus! Ehm, well, I press the multimode button to enter multimode. Then I press the edit menu button. And from the fitrst option I press the button 11 times (well, usually I don't count them... :-p ) Does there appear the Clock value? It should be there! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 21 23:28:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:24:45 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: sync delay to clock in multi mode? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf dimitri wrote: >>how do you sync the delay time to midi clock in multi mode? in single mode, it s easy: there is a value called "clock" in the delay menu. >>the manual mentions that same value for the multi-delay, too, but somehow i cant find it in my virus! >Ehm, well, I press the multimode button to enter multimode. Then I press the edit menu button. And from the fitrst option I press the button 11 times (well, usually I don't count them... :-p ) Does there appear the Clock value? It should be there! you bet it should! but it isnt. when i press 11x, i get "DELAY MULTI Time", on the left of that "EffegtSend", on the right "DELAY MULTI Feedback", but i can press as often and as hard as i want, i dont get "Clock", like in single mode. funny that you dont seem to have that problem. maybe youre using a different os version? i use 2.01. any solutions? thanx, mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 21 23:39:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:36:27 -0500 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: anyone, anyone, virus for sale?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore does anyone know of a store in the states that has the best price for a virus??? does anyone have one for sale? does anyone know anyone that has one for sale?? does anyone know anyone for sale? does anyone's sale apply to anyone at any time there is a sale? would you sell yours for a sale at a store? green eggs and ham sale i am ham or spam flim flam? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 03:21:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:17:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:38 PM +0100 on 22.02.1999 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >For what do you want to use an arpeggiator, that play one note each bar? ;-) for *very, very* fast music....;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 03:21:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:18:48 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: Cheap Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:09 PM +0100 on 22.02.1999 Marcel Engels wrote: >What I like to see is an 'expanded' fx department. Maybe some reverb or an analogue sounding phaser! I would like that much more then a ring-mod etc. speaking of which: I would really *love* to see a HF-damping or cutoff for the delay. To make it sound like one of those old old analog types... *sigh*...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 03:21:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:26:14 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: amusing little ideosynchrasies.amusing little ideosynchrasies. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:08 PM +0100 on 22.02.1999 S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: >I LOVE the synth for the superb noises it makes but I'm afraid I can't describe it as reliable and on that basis would find it hard to reccommend it to anyone. Well, but wait. We've had this discussion before and there are always two kinds of people responding. One party says: "well *my* virus crashes, so the Virus sucks". The other half retaliates with a "My Virus never crashed, so the Virus rules." Neither answer helps any member of the other party a single bit towards changing their mind. However whatever you are saying, always remember that a lot of the Viruses do work reliably and that, yes there are some which show some production faults that have escaped Access' quality check. Thus. regrettable as it may be, it seems that your Virus is either a bit confused or simply entirely messed up. Since you are mentioning that it has a history of problems, you should try to get it fixed -- which includes sending it away, of course. I know this sucks but after checking all other possibilities (yes, the lengthy process of resetting, reinstalling OS, resetting, trying it out until it crashes etc, in short: make the problem reproducable) you should get in touch with your distributor and insist they make the problem go away. sorry I doN't have anything more encouraging to say, but I'm afraid this is the situation... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 03:21:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:28:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: anyone, virus for sale?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:42 PM +0100 on 22.02.1999 Herb Ivore wrote: >what r they going for used???? In German Keys magazine there is usually a price index for used gear. Issue 2/99 was the last issue that listed the Virus, the mean price was 2004 DM. Issue 3/99 (which is the current issue) no longer lists the Virus since it hasn't been offered in the last three issues. Apparently they are even harder to find than new... I doN't know much about the price in other countries... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 16:48:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:43:43 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Jay Vaughan wrote: >I'd suggest the QY70/QY700 or new RM1X sequencers from Yamaha. They're really the only industrial-strength modern hardware sequencers out there these days, apart from something like the Notron which is hugely expensive... The Notron is $963, not far off of the price of a QY700. I know this because I just ordered one! But of course the QY700 is an apple and the Notron is an orange. I've been using my Virus with a QY700 for about a year now. Looking forward to hooking it up to the Notron. I have a feeling this will be a very happy marriage. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 09:50:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:46:27 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: sync delay to clock in multi mode? WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl That is very strange! I use OS2.01 too! If I press that button 11 times, there's DALAY MULTI clock ... where ... is off or x/y. And that's in multi mode too. Hmmm.... maybe there's onlyu one single in Multi-mode of which you can edit the MULTI DELAY clock? It's harldy possible.... very stargne! Dimitri. michael wolf schreef: >when i press 11x, i get "DELAY MULTI Time", on the left of that >"EffectSend", on the right "DELAY MULTI Feedback", but i can press as often >and as hard as i want, i dont get "Clock", like in single mode. > >funny that you dont seem to have that problem. maybe youre using a >different os version? i use 2.01. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 11:50:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:47:57 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RM1x?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >>I think you would only need a modulation matrix for this one, wouldn't you? >Now, that's a good idea! A modulation Matrix! That would be great! Anyone else agrees? ;-) - mod-matrix : yes! - ring-mod : yes! - ring-mod-matrix : no thanks! -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 09:55:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:51:48 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RM1x?? WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl K.9 Kai Niggemann schreef: >>How do you assign velocity to, say, lfo depth, lfo rate, sub osc level, env >>sustain level, filter balance, osc 2 detune, twin detune, chorus send level, >>punch intensity? I hope I'm just overlooking something, otherwise I don't >>think >>this can be done. >I think you would only need a modulation matrix for this one, wouldn't you? Now, that's a good idea! A modulation Matrix! That would be great! Anyone else agrees? ;-) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 11:04:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Hardware sequencer Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:01:13 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi everybody! I'm sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I don't even have a Virus yet...:-( Anyway, I'm looking for a sturdy and CHEAP hardware sequencer, for gigs and rehearsals. I was thinking along the lines of a Kawai Q-30 or Q-80, secondhand. Does anyone know how much they are? Or where to find a really cheap one in London? I'm on a very tight budget, so about £80 will be my limit. It must have "3,5 FD for storage. And does anyone have experiences using modules like the mentioned with the Virus, and especially in live situations? Thank you! -FutureVirus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 12:44:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 03:26:52 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Anyway, I'm looking for a sturdy and CHEAP hardware sequencer, for gigs and rehearsals. I was thinking along the lines of a Kawai Q-30 or Q-80, secondhand. Does anyone know how much they are? Or where to find a I'd suggest the QY70/QY700 or new RM1X sequencers from Yamaha. They're really the only industrial-strength modern hardware sequencers out there these days, apart from something like the Notron which is hugely expensive... http://www.yamaha.co.uk/ <--- go to the Synth section, Current Models. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 14:46:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:40:22 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Thanks for the answer, but it's not really what I'm looking for. Far too expensive, and only the RM1x has got FD storage... and I don't really need another bunch of "Groove Approved" sounds. Well, if I could buy one s/h... but again, about £80 is my limit. > >I'd suggest the QY70/QY700 or new RM1X sequencers from Yamaha. They're really the only industrial-strength modern hardware sequencers out there >these days, apart from something like the Notron which is hugely expensive... > >http://www.yamaha.co.uk/ <--- go to the Synth section, Current Models. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 03:43:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:35:23 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Cheap Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:36 PM +0100 on 22.02.1999 Howard Scarr wrote: >>Marcel wrote: >>btw: it's awfully quiet at the Access front... What do you think? Are they building that sequencer-thing? > >That's my bet. I would wait for this "marriage" if I knew it was on the cards... Hm. I ordered an MPC 2000 today. That is not to say that Access aren't building a sequencer, but I have never heard about them doing that... But the sequencer part is not the only thing I buy the MPC for... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 16:11:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pete@voicenet.com (Peter Calderwood) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:04:05 GMT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pete@voicenet.com (Peter Calderwood) I know its expensive, (~$1k), but the upcoming Roland MC-80 sequencer looks very promising. On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:01:13 PST, you wrote: >* From "Peter Steens" > >Hi everybody! > >I'm sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I don't even have a Virus yet...:-( > >Anyway, I'm looking for a sturdy and CHEAP hardware sequencer, for gigs and rehearsals. I was thinking along the lines of a Kawai Q-30 or Q-80, secondhand. Does anyone know how much they are? Or where to find a really cheap one in London? I'm on a very tight budget, so about £80 will be my limit. It must have "3,5 FD for storage. And does anyone have experiences using modules like the mentioned with the Virus, and especially in live situations? > >Thank you! > >-FutureVirus > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 16:32:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:24:26 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: anyone, anyone, virus for sale?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf Herb Ivore wrote: >does anyone know of a store in the states that has the best price for a virus??? >does anyone have one for sale? >does anyone know anyone that has one for sale?? does anyone know anyone for sale? >does anyone's sale apply to anyone at any time there is a sale? would you sell yours for a sale at a store? green eggs and ham sale i am ham or spam flim flam? i dont have anything for sale, but i love your poetry. mic ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 16:32:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:26:55 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: sync delay to clock in multi mode? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf canine wrote: >>when i press 11x, i get "DELAY MULTI Time", on the left of that "EffegtSend", on the right "DELAY MULTI Feedback", but i can press as often and as hard as i want, i dont get "Clock", like in single mode. >that is really weird. It's not april first, so I am assuming you aren't kidding...;) i swear i wasnt. >Have you tried resetting your Virus? you should certainly do that. yes! it worked! i can set "DELAY MULTI Clock" again! hip hip hurray! and the solution was so easy! thanx for the hint, kai, i love you! (but still, what a strange problem! my virus was working perfectly ok apart from the missing "DELAY MULTI Clock" parameter. how can things like that happen? oh well, who of us will ever fully comprehend the strange workings of these kinds of machines! i guess we ll just have to live with their amusing little ideosynchrasies...) cheers, mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 16:32:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:28:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf hi list. hi access crew. in comparison to mod matrixes and ring mods (which i, too, would very much like to see), ive got a really modest addition to our little help-to-improve-the-virus-and-win-a-brandnew-access- helicopter wish list: id very much appreciate it, if i could choose higher values for the "ARPEGGIATOR Clock" parameter. 1/1 would be very nice. (of course, a programmable arpeggiator would be even nicer, but lets not get hysterical) think "consider it done"! mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 16:36:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:32:32 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Zuther To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cheap Hardware sequencer X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000462023@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.95.238.51] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther Hey Peter! I guess you should encounter some problems finding a sequencer with floppy for &80. A floppy itself will cost about &15 when you buy a new one. And you also wnat some seqencing capabilities, don't you ;-) Maybe you should go for an old Atari, they are VERY inexpensive now, it should be in your bugdet. They've got a floppy as well, and the system is so stable (and old), that it would do as a 'hardware'-sequencer. Martin --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 17:08:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:00:56 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Please keep us informed on this Notron marriage.... b << hooking it up to the Notron. I have a feeling this will be a very happy marriage. >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 18:10:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Cheap Hardware sequencer Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:09:57 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >Maybe you should go for an old Atari, they are VERY inexpensive now, it should be in your bugdet. They've got a floppy as well, and the system is so >stable (and old), that it would do as a 'hardware'-sequencer. Still THE best sequencer for its money! And super-stable! btw: it's awfully quiet at the Access front... What do you think? Are they building that sequencer-thing? Or are they on holiday on their private island... who knows What I like to see is an 'expanded' fx department. Maybe some reverb or an analogue sounding phaser! I would like that much more then a ring-mod etc. (okay, I hear you all scream - buy an extra fx-processor...) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 19:05:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:08:59 +0000 Subject: amusing little ideosynchrasies.amusing little ideosynchrasies. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >>Have you tried resetting your Virus? you should certainly do that. > >yes! it worked! i can set "DELAY MULTI Clock" again! hip hip hurray! and the solution was so easy! thanx for the hint, kai, i love you! > >(but still, what a strange problem! my virus was working perfectly ok apart from the missing "DELAY MULTI Clock" parameter. how can things like that happen? oh well, who of us will ever fully comprehend the strange workings of these kinds of machines! i guess we ll just have to live with their amusing little ideosynchrasies...) > >cheers, > >mic. I for one find it very hard to live with my Virus' amusing little ideosynchrasies. 1) It crashes not infrequently, including in the middle of gigs. This always happens when it is receiving controller data either over MIDI or from its own control panel. 2) When the amount of controller data it is receiving gets moderately large it makes awful distorted crunching noises (regardless of volume settings). 3) I can't get the LFOs to sync reliably to MIDI clock (are you still working on this Christoph? Is there a Logic sync problem). 4) I also had the "-E no bank No." message once, which Access swiftly responded to by sending me a new Flash ROM. Apparantly there was some incompatibility between the new OS which I was installing (I think this was 1.53 or 1.54) and the memory chip in my particular virus.) With the exception of (4) above, Access' response seems to be disbelief on the grounds that they can't reproduce the problems on their machines. Given that there have been some problems relating to the use of different hardware in different machines (e.g.-E no bank No.) is it not possible that there are other such problems relating to hardware / software incompatibilities. I think this at least deserves investigation and a frank and open response from the team. I LOVE the synth for the superb noises it makes but I'm afraid I can't describe it as reliable and on that basis would find it hard to reccommend it to anyone. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 19:48:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:42:31 -0500 From: Herb Ivore To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: anyone, virus for sale?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Herb Ivore what r they going for used???? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 21:53:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Velocity & modulation matrix Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:42:19 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >>How do you assign velocity to, say, lfo depth, lfo rate, sub osc level, env sustain level, filter balance, osc 2 detune, twin detune, chorus send level, punch intensity? >I think you would only need a modulation matrix for this one, wouldn't you? I'd like to be able to use velocity (and maybe also note number) as Assign sources, to create more expressive synthetic instruments. Apart from that the Assign system seems pretty sufficient... though unidirectional modulation and controllable response curves might be nice. Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 23:51:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Cheap Hardware sequencer Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:36:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >Marcel wrote: >btw: it's awfully quiet at the Access front... What do you think? Are they building that sequencer-thing? That's my bet. I would wait for this "marriage" if I knew it was on the cards... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 07:42:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:37:28 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Jay Vaughan wrote: >>gavin cook (of the waldorf list) and i are starting a users group page where well have lots of mp3's and stuff. jay...would you want to host a mailing list?? : ) > >Sure, why not. We already talked about this a few months ago, I'd be glad to set one up. Is that not what the hwseq-list@teklab.com is for? (Which, BTW, I still haven't been able to unsubscribe from) - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 07:42:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:38:45 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket Jay Vaughan wrote: >Rack mount kit? Why on earth would you want to rack mount the Notron? I thought the purpose was to install it on your toil... oh, never mind. Actually, the Notron MK2 is not cowpat shaped, but (quelle horruer!) rectangular: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/concourse/v2guide.htm - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Feb 22 23:51:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Spam flim flam Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:39:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >* From michael wolf Herb Ivore wrote: >>green eggs and ham sale i am ham or spam flim flam? >i dont have anything for sale, but i love your poetry. I seem to remember once calling a song "All Bran Spam Flan" - I reckon it was the weed that did it (Herb - your name is a dead giveaway!). However, if you can remember the 70s you weren't there - so - erm - where was I? End of thread... ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 00:13:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:58:19 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 06:15 PM 2/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net guys, my Notron mk2 just was sent out. the total was 653 UKP with 3-4 day shipping, hardshell case and international PSU. toss in another 60 UKP for the rack mount kit in a few weeks. This converted to U.S. is 1100$ with a 35$ wire fee. alot of $$$ i think it will be worth it though!!! >weld Rack mount kit? Why on earth would you want to rack mount the Notron? I thought the purpose was to install it on your toil... oh, never mind. Seriously though, sounds like you're going to have to give us a nice lengthy and very detailed review, along with live demo examples in mp3 file format, of the new Notron. You lucky boy! We could do a live Internet-broadcast "battle" between your Nortron2 and my new RM1X ... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 13:20:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:04:52 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:52 PM +0100 on 23.02.1999 Hagen Lorenz wrote: >It's not so terrible, sometimes even interesting, but that mail by Kai made me vervous where he spoke about "production faults that have escaped Access' quality check". Don't be nervous. Just look around you. Car manufacturers recalling their cars, warranty repairs for electric razors, hairdryers and vacuum cleaners, tape decks, etc. With the volume produced, the statistical risk of an error excaping into the wild increases. That's all I was saying. Not that it was some sort of a thing for any particular company! sorry to make you nervous..;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 01:22:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:07:44 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >great for live use when you want peolple to see the flashing lights, and have other duties to perform, then instantly detachable for putting on your lap to monkey with (has anyone else noticed the sexual overtones of this email??) : ) Ummm.... monkies? Sex? Wow, I think I really *do* need to move to Europe. >gavin cook (of the waldorf list) and i are starting a users group page where well have lots of mp3's and stuff. jay...would you want to host a mailing list?? : ) Sure, why not. We already talked about this a few months ago, I'd be glad to set one up. >p.s. i have a new email contact for the notron gear and s zipped file of some info and i pic of thre mk2 if anyones interested please email me Send it to me weld! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 01:26:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:19:50 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com And me running mine with my ROL309... << We could do a live Internet-broadcast "battle" between your Nortron2 and my new RM1X ... :) >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 04:12:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:07:05 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cheap Hardware sequencer Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com I'd like to hear about this, too. Vis a vis how it goes with the Virus and such. Think different-ly than me, b << Hm. I ordered an MPC 2000 today. >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 20:34:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:47:46 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:21 PM +0100 on 23.02.1999 michael wolf wrote: >for (ab)using the arpeggiator as a rudimentary step sequencer: I'm amazed! I gotta try that...! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 20:34:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:49:49 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:44 PM +0100 on 23.02.1999 BHaber@aol.com wrote: >Can you describe how you use it as a gater? Thanks! But blake, that#s really easy, set the input mode to "dynamic", then the Virus will only let everything through while it receives a note on the same channel as the input part. or am I missing something here? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 09:34:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:30:03 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cheap Hardware sequencer WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! I definately agree! The Atari's timing is stable as a rock, expandable with more MIDI ports, it works with MIDI controllers and SysEx. My brother has an ST1040 and we did some performances with it. One problem is working with diskettes in the dark. When you have to act quickly, they're a disaster. So my brother expanded it with a ZIP drive! Haha! He wasn't sure if he'd take the new Atari-clone or if he'd expand it. Because of it's simplicity. Remember: It has a black/white screen, cubase uses 2 colors! Sometimes I wish they made an Atari in palmtop format... I wouldn't say you can't crash an Atari....but if you don't fill up your internal mem and your disks (take a ZIP!) there is no problem. And to stay on topic: It works good with a Virus! I usually set programm change to off, so my brother can't mess up MY virus.... ;-) Dimitri. Martin Zuther schreef: >Maybe you should go for an old Atari, they are VERY inexpensive now, it >should be in your bugdet. They've got a floppy as well, and the system is so >stable (and old), that it would do as a 'hardware'-sequencer. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 09:55:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:51:49 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: >>id very much appreciate it, if i could choose higher values for the >>"ARPEGGIATOR Clock" parameter. 1/1 would be very nice. >For what do you want to use an arpeggiator, that play one note each bar? Well, I'd like to use it for playing a note each 4 counts... :-p But seriously: A note ach bar witg e.g. some LFO sync additions during a song playing very softly can give a very deeep effect to a song. Of course I could programm it, but that goes for each arpeggiator theme. A Combination of 4 notes could give a theme of 8 bars (32 counts, 2 FT patterns), or even more! The standard up-tempo-cyber-house-pump-up-the-valium-arpeggiator themes in the also called music may have short arpegiator themes, but an arpegiator is capable of more than that. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 12:38:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:33:59 +0100 (NFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: anyone, virus for sale?? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz For used gear prices look here: http://www.midiwall.com/cgi-bin/w3-msql/usedgear/ug_mfg.shtml for offers look there: rec.music.makers.marketplace Hagen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 12:56:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:52:14 +0100 (NFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz Since upgrading to 2.01 i recognice the following problem while playing in single modus: sometimes the sound is considerably louder than normally and the sound is somehow distorted. I've tried to make the problem reproducible with no success, sometimes it's there, mostly not. I can only say that it sometimes changes if i edit the sound, switch to another single or receive a sysex dump from cubase. I've also reset the virus to factory sounds but the problem persists. It's not so terrible, sometimes even interesting, but that mail by Kai made me vervous where he spoke about "production faults that have escaped Access' quality check". Any helpful comments? Hagen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 01:19:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:12:06 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:04 PM +0100 on 23.02.1999 AbstraKt wrote: >I originally joined this list to get user comments on the Virus before I bought one. Since I joined a suprising number of the letters in this list have been about the crashing or other problems. I was mainly interrested in finding out wether or not the knobs on the Virus are assignable or not and if they sent >out continuous controller data (BTW, I still am) but now I am starting to get questions about the Access customer support department. I urge all readers who have had pr C'mon, don't be an asshole here, man. Who do you think is more likely to write to a mailing list? The 1000 users who are busy producing music because their synths work just fine or the one of them who is experiencing problems because something went wrong? >Overall the Virus is everything I need, but I have a *very* demanding live set and need a piece of equipment I can rely on. If these problems are the result of a couple of "bad" synths, and the virus will be reliable for the most >part, then please let me know so the few negative comments I've read here don't >turn me away. Now that sounds more like it...;) I believe the problem is that usually you never hear about any problems people have with *anything* since you're never able to eavesdrop on their tech support. Here you hear everything that people complain about -- without anything like a relation how common it is among customers in general. Just compare the way Access actually takes time to speak to their customers and listen to their wishes, bugreports and "bug"reports (if you know what I mean) with great patience to the way you have been able to speak with the same people at other companies. You are probably not aware that Christoph Kemper is not just anyone at Access, he is the one programming the DSP and designing the beast. And so is Joerg Meissner. He is not just the intern checking out the net while the coffee machine is making coffee as you might have thought, but he is the one programming the user interface. I know that there are a few small synth manufacturers out there with this level of support. But I can't think of too many names, especially no big names... So don't bitch about the way Access treats their customers unless you know what you are talking about... ok? Don't take this matter personally, it's just that I feel you should be more careful in what you are saying before you get your details straight. good night for now...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 01:53:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:42:51 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:53 PM +0100 on 23.02.1999 BHaber@aol.com wrote: >You're missing nothing: every time I sit down to learn how to use the V, I get so excited sequencing things and twisting knobs that I end up spending hours writing/recording a song and never learn anything new! ;-)) I'm glad helping you was so easy...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 15:25:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cheap Hardware sequencer & 0% solution Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:19:17 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi everyone! Thanks for the answers I've received regarding the issue. This really is a very nice mailinglist, especially compared to the Jarre-mailinglist. Always some war going on there, between people with no sense of humor or irony. Anyway, how BIG is an Atari? I was thinking of a hardware sequencer, because bringing a computer just is kinda unhandy. I was thinking more of something light and portable. And how much do they (Ataris) cost? Another thing: when I'm gonna buy my Virus (hopefully in a week or so... please?!), I'll be doing it in a shop in London that offers 0% financing solutions. Does anyone know how to go about this? Do they need a Direct Debit accvount or something? I'm sorry if it's a bit off topic. And please be prepared. When I've got my Virus, I'll announce with the loudest virtual roar EVER!! :-) See ya! -FutureVirus > >* From di-mi@dds.nl > > >Hello! > >I definately agree! The Atari's timing is stable as a rock, expandable with more MIDI ports, it works with MIDI controllers and SysEx. My brother has an ST1040 and we did some performances with it. One problem is working with diskettes in the dark. When you have to act quickly, they're a disaster. So my brother expanded it with a ZIP drive! Haha! He wasn't sure if he'd take the new Atari-clone or if he'd expand it. Because of it's simplicity. Remember: It has a black/white screen, cubase uses 2 colors! Sometimes I wish they made an Atari in palmtop format... > >I wouldn't say you can't crash an Atari....but if you don't fill up your internal mem and your disks (take a ZIP!) there is no problem. And to stay on topic: It works good with a Virus! I usually set programm change to off, so my brother can't mess up MY virus.... ;-) > >Dimitri. > >Martin Zuther schreef: >>Maybe you should go for an old Atari, they are VERY >inexpensive now, it >>should be in your bugdet. They've got a floppy as well, and >the system is so >>stable (and old), that it would do as a >'hardware'-sequencer. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 16:26:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:21:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >>id very much appreciate it, if i could choose higher values for the "ARPEGGIATOR Clock" parameter. 1/1 would be very nice. >> > >For what do you want to use an arpeggiator, that play one note each bar? for (ab)using the arpeggiator as a rudimentary step sequencer: create a multi witk all the parts using an arpeggiator in "HOLD" mode, some of them with different arp clock settings, some of them using similar sounds and the same arp setting triggered one by one at different times on different notes, and you can slowly, step by step, build up minimal-music-like tracks in live improvisations without any external sequencing hardware. for this, slower values like 1/1 (one note per bar) or maybe even 2/1 (one note every two bars) might be helpful. the more different rhythmic values, the better. of course, if you dont need 1/64 and 1/2 in one track, you could simply use half the clock tempo, but then you couldnt go slower than 126 (since the internal clock cant go slower than 63). also i d still like to be able to sync my clock to other gear, e g when jamming with other musicians. maybe my way of using the virus isnt typical. i m not so much interested in producing techno-like dance tracks than in working more on the experimental side, more like ambient- and noise-oriented stuff, you know. (i also use the external inputs a lot. the virus makes a great gater and effect processor) mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 16:29:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jonathan Brainin" To: "Access-List" Subject: Fw: Access Virus Synth 4 Sale Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:26:34 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Jonathan Brainin" On your mark, get set... -----Original Message----- From: fivetwo@mindspring.com Newsgroups: alt.music.makers.electronic Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:58 AM Subject: Access Virus Synth 4 Sale >Access Virus 4 Sale-Advanced Simulated Analog Synth-$1000.00/obo Mint condition w/manual in box. Current operating system 2.10 w/ vocoder > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 17:58:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:44:27 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Can you describe how you use it as a gater? Thanks! b << the virus makes a great gater and effect processor) >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 18:10:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: CKe9644719@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:14:19 +0000 Subject: Re: amusing little ideosynchrasies.amusing little ideosynchr Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 22.02.99 19:09:19 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>1) It crashes not infrequently, including in the middle of gigs. This >always >> >>happens when it is receiving controller data either over MIDI or from its own >>control panel. > >Does it only crash on gigs? No. >Or does it crash on specific points or situations of your arrangement? If this >is the case even sometimes, your problem is kind of reproducable and you should send me this arrangement for a check. It crashes at no specific reproduceable point but always when it is being sent controller messages either over MIDI or from its panel. >If you run this arrangement in cycles for a couple hours, will the Virus crash? >This would be very interesting for us to check. Revise to me privat. > >If these situations are definetly not reproducable by any manner, I think your >Virus might not be stable by hardware and should be repaired. My Virus is now 9 months old and therefore out of waranty. However I have been posting regarding these problems for about the last 5 months or more. Are you prepared to repair it under warranty? This is the first time that you have suggested a hardware problem. > >> >>2) When the amount of controller data it is receiving gets moderately >large >>it makes awful distorted crunching noises (regardless of volume >settings). > >You never reported that. Yes I did. I sent you MIDI files of arrangements that caused this problem before Christmas. Does the noise disappear if you stop sending >controllers? Yes. > >> >>3) I can't get the LFOs to sync reliably to MIDI clock (are you still working >>on this Christoph? Is there a Logic sync problem). > >There is a Virus sync-to-bar problem with Logic, and I think it is solved for >the next update. Good news. When can we expect the next update? Steve n-tropic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 20:41:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:04:11 -0500 From: AbstraKt X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From AbstraKt "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >>It's not so terrible, sometimes even interesting, but that mail by Kai made me vervous where he spoke about "production faults that have escaped Access' quality check". > >Don't be nervous. Just look around you. Car manufacturers recalling their cars, warranty repairs for electric razors, hairdryers and vacuum cleaners, tape decks, etc. > When Volkswagon recalled the new VW Bugs, they allocated a $100 per car rebate to the dealers to give to the customers to spend during the 45 minutes it took to fix the problem. I doubt Access would be so generous, so the question is, yes, these problems do come up, but should we have to pay for them? I have to work very hard for my money (as I'm sure we all do) and I would like to purchase a product with some deal of support behind it. There are always going to be problems, but what is Access doing to resolve them? If they tell you to screw off until you manage to find something reproducable, then I will surely take my money elsewhere. I originally joined this list to get user comments on the Virus before I bought one. Since I joined a suprising number of the letters in this list have been about the crashing or other problems. I was mainly interrested in finding out wether or not the knobs on the Virus are assignable or not and if they sent out continuous controller data (BTW, I still am) but now I am starting to get questions about the Access customer support department. I urge all readers who have had problems with their virus to write in and dispell or defend these problems. Overall the Virus is everything I need, but I have a *very* demanding live set and need a piece of equipment I can rely on. If these problems are the result of a couple of "bad" synths, and the virus will be reliable for the most part, then please let me know so the few negative comments I've read here don't turn me away. > >With the volume produced, the statistical risk of an error excaping into the wild increases. That's all I was saying. Not that it was some sort of a thing for any particular company! > Hopefully this is the case, but if my virus is going to start spraying noise across the audience whenever it's getting large amounts of controller data (which is almost always) then I think I need to look elsewhere... :) Anyway, your responses will be appriciated. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 23:11:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:47:21 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >>Can you describe how you use it as a gater? Thanks! > >But blake, that#s really easy, > >set the input mode to "dynamic", then the Virus will only let everything through while it receives a note on the same channel as the input part. > >or am I missing something here? at least thats what i was talking about, too. mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 23:11:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:50:01 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf christoph wrote: >Ok, we'll put it in: 1/1, 2/1, 4/1. cool! :) this is the kind of immediate response that makes taking part in this list so gratifying. weiter so, junx. now about that ring modulator... mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 23:10:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Fred Alyea" To: Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:04:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Fred Alyea" unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 23:11:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:05:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: amusing little ideosynchrasies.amusing little ideosynchr Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: >It crashes at no specific reproduceable point but always when it is being sent controller messages either over MIDI or from its panel. i vaguely recall that my virus showed similar symptoms when i first bought it. truly not amusing at all. i returned it to the store where i got it, they sent it back to access to have it repaired (there was some kind of a hardware problem) and it has worked reliably ever since. well, except for that recent mystery of the missing "DELAY MULTI Clock" parameter, that is. but that was easy enough to fix. >My Virus is now 9 months old and therefore out of waranty. However I have been posting regarding these problems for about the last 5 months or more. Are you prepared to repair it under warranty? if you have reported these problems in time, i think they really should repair it under warranty. come on, access, fasst euch ein herz, help this poor man! cheers, mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Feb 23 23:23:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:08:30 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I originally joined this list to get user comments on the Virus before I bought one. Since I joined a suprising number of the letters in this list have been about the crashing or other problems. This is a vast generality. So you know, as list administrator I keep *every* mail the access list has ever generated. And I file it. Less than 5% of the messages on this list have been about Virus 'crashes' and most of those have been fixed with a simple OS upgrade. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 00:23:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:53:09 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com You're missing nothing: every time I sit down to learn how to use the V, I get so excited sequencing things and twisting knobs that I end up spending hours writing/recording a song and never learn anything new! I need a full, multi-project vocoder tutorial, for sure... Thanks! b << But blake, that#s really easy, set the input mode to "dynamic", then the Virus will only let everything through while it receives a note on the same channel as the input part. or am I missing something here? >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 00:01:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:02:39 -0800 From: Steve Tavaglione To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steve Tavaglione ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 01:24:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:20:59 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: real modest addition to wish list: 1/1 in arpeggiator Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda >Ok, we'll put it in: 1/1, 2/1, 4/1. Yeehaa!! Way to go! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 04:31:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:30:39 -0800 From: Steve Tavaglione To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steve Tavaglione unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 10:12:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:08:03 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: A humble request and an invitation Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen >From BHaber@aol.com: "I need a full, multi-project vocoder tutorial, for sure..." Well, to be honest, I could use one too. AND: If there's anybody on this list from Greece or in Greece for a holiday, I will be playing the Virus live on 10th of March in Thessaloniki (Mylos) and on 14th of March in Athens. I'm playing with a finnish band called CMX as a regular assistant and we are doing two a two-gig-tour with a local band TRYPES. After that we do the same thing in Finland. You are invited. I use the Virus in a "traditional" (no sequencing, just a MIDI keyboard) way, the way I used analog synths in the eighties. CMX is a rock band (but very versatile and flexable), so the keys are not the main thing. I do have a jamming session with distorted drums and Virus in arpeggiator mode, though. And if anyone of you would like to know more, go to http://njet.net/cmx/ and choose "english". --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 10:22:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: unstable virus Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:18:04 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Boehm Thomas-Lars Hi AbstraKt, hi list, I think the reason why you see so many people on this list complaining about their virus crashing is that nobody owning a virus without any problems (like mine) would write to this list "Hey guys, my virus is working properly. Am I doing something wrong ?". A lot of trouble you can have with your Virus is not coming from the Virus itself, it is caused by sequencers, MIDI-interfaces, connections and so one. I had a ground loop that caused my virus to behave very strange, but even my very old reliable Roland D50 did then not turn on properly (it never crashed in 12 years!), and my ESI-4000 lost its "voice" although it was receiving data from my sequencer. Thank Christoph, Joerg and all the other guys at Access for their great work they did on the Virus, especially for their great support on probs, questions and service. I am sure we all gonna see lots of features and options with new system updates, as we have seen with 2.0x. So, that's my statement. Now go on and make some music. Greetings, TL-Bee ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 10:48:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: gatrall@pop2.slip.net Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:45:58 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Simon Gatrall Subject: LFO, Delay and Arpeggiator settings Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall Almost a year ago I a list of suggestions to this list concerning improvements to the Virus. One of my suggestions was about the LFO and delay time settings. My suggestion still holds true, and I would add that there should be a way to make the arpeggiator this flexible as well, so here it is again: The method for selecting the cycle times of the LFOs and the delay time is not as powerful as it could be. The Lexicon MPX-1 has a very clever way of doing this. First they have a global tempo (BPM) which also has an associated "beat value" (1/8, dotted 1/8, 1/4, dotted 1/4, 1/2, dotted 1/2 and whole). Then to specify LFO frequency or delay times they use two numbers in a format like A:B, where A and B range from 1 to 24. A is "cycles" and B is "beats". Here are some examples of what you can do: Tempo = 120 BPM Beat Value = 1/4 note (on the Virus this could be derived from the arpeggiator setting) A:B - cycles per beat ---------------------------------------- 1:1 - 1 cycle per 1/4 note 4:3 - 4 cycles every 3 beats 5:4 - 5 cycles per measure 1:20 - one cycle every five measures 3:10 - 3 cycles per 2 1/2 measures 7:13 - 7 cycles every 13 beats Once you get used to this, you won't want to live with less powerful systems. On the Virus it would be easy to modify the current system slightly so that the "B" value would be set through the "edit" menu, and the "A" value would be set with the LFO rate knob. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 12:36:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: ruchsn@student.hivolda.no Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:33:28 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Krupp Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Krupp end Infected Norwegian: The vocoder manual says that the filter buttons gives me option of modulating either the carrier, modulator or both... does not work with mine... I use OS 2.01. Have anyone the same problem, or is it just me? My Cubase VST 4 sends some obscure MIDI message to the Virus which change the current patch drastically when I rewind or fast forward in Cubase(transposes it down some octaves minus one half note among some other strange changes). Disabeling chase events solves this, but is not a really good solution. Propably some bug in Cubase...? Any news conserning a complete manual? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 12:52:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Nice Bytes sounds for Virus Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:47:23 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Boehm Thomas-Lars Hi list, we all know the soundset from Rob Papen (great work). The German distributor Nice Bytes is advertising another three soundsets for the Virus. Does anyone know if the patches are worth it (around 70 Euro) ? Just curious. Greetings, TL-Bee ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 13:53:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Torsten Eichhorst" To: Subject: Re: Nice Bytes sounds for Virus Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:45:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Torsten Eichhorst" For me they are definitly worth it, but this is my opinion. I don´t remember i had to pay 70 Euro it was someting around 100 DM (50 Euro), but i´m not sure in this case. Bye Torsten >Hi list, > >we all know the soundset from Rob Papen (great work). The German distributor Nice Bytes is advertising another three soundsets for >the Virus. >Does anyone know if the patches are worth it (around 70 Euro) ? Just curious. > >Greetings, TL-Bee ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 15:25:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Nice Bytes sounds for Virus Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:19:28 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Boehm Thomas-Lars Hi Torsten, thanx for your quick answer. The official price for all three soundset is 133,- DM, I think 100,- DM for two of them, but I don't remember it exactly. Perhaps I should take a look this evening at the advertisement again (German Keyboards 3/99). Can you define which musical styles the soundsets cover, and what kind of patches are included (basses, pads, fx, etc.) ? Greetings, TL-Bee ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 15:02:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:58:54 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:LFO, Delay and Arpeggiator settings WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Simon Gatrall schreef: >Here are some examples of what you can do: >Tempo = 120 BPM >Beat Value = 1/4 note (on the Virus this could be derived from the >arpeggiator setting) >A:B - cycles per beat >---------------------------------------- >1:1 - 1 cycle per 1/4 note >4:3 - 4 cycles every 3 beats >5:4 - 5 cycles per measure >1:20 - one cycle every five measures >3:10 - 3 cycles per 2 1/2 measures >7:13 - 7 cycles every 13 beats >Once you get used to this, you won't want to live with less powerful >systems. On the Virus it would be easy to modify the current system >slightly so that the "B" value would be set through the "edit" menu, and >the "A" value would be set with the LFO rate knob. This is EXACTLY what I meant with my last message about the 1/1 bar sync: To be able to adjust it this way! This would be so very great to have in a live situation, especially when you want to 'abuse' the Virus als a sequencer! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 18:38:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:35:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer From: "Martin Aune" To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Martin Aune" >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >why not have dedicated notron list????? weld Supported.The machine is so strange & cool that it definitely deserves a list. Hopefully the very friendly folks at Lactronic would be interested participating too. Martin -- ------------------------------- martaune@online.no http://home.sol.no/~klikk ------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 18:32:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: michael.wolf@rz.hu-berlin.de, access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:37:44 +0000 Subject: Re:amusing little ideosynchrasies Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: > >>It crashes at no specific reproduceable point but always when it is being sent controller messages either over MIDI or from its panel. > >i vaguely recall that my virus showed similar symptoms when i first bought it. truly not amusing at all. i returned it to the store where i got it, they sent it back to access to have it repaired (there was some kind of a hardware problem) and it has worked reliably ever since. > >well, except for that recent mystery of the missing "DELAY MULTI Clock" parameter, that is. but that was easy enough to fix. > >>My Virus is now 9 months old and therefore out of waranty. However I have been posting regarding these problems for about the last 5 months or more. Are you prepared to repair it under warranty? > >if you have reported these problems in time, i think they really should repair it under warranty. > >come on, access, fasst euch ein herz, help this poor man! > >cheers, > >mic. > Thank you for your supportive mail Mic. I would like everyone to know that Christoph has offered to fix my Virus under warranty - if that's what it takes. He's just going to try one more little software tickle first. Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Feb 24 21:15:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Nice Bytes sounds for Virus Date: Mit, 24 Feb 99 21:16:58 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile >we all know the soundset from Rob Papen (great work). The German distributor Nice Bytes is advertising another three soundsets for the Virus. >Does anyone know if the patches are worth it (around 70 Euro) ? Just curious. the three sets are well programmed but i wouldn't call them great. on set out of the three would have been enough... just my 0.02 euro marc _____________________________________________________________ babylonwaves media email:babylonwaves@usa.net _____________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 07:58:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:54:42 -0500 From: Brian Davis X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Brian Davis "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >So don't bitch about the way Access treats their customers unless you know what you are talking about... ok? First off friend, I wasn't bitching about their tech support. I have no clue about their tech support. That's why I asked. Notice my phrasing "...starting to get questions..." How does that lead you to believe I was bitching about their tech support? I was saying what I said. The messages I have read so far led me to believe that Access is taking a passive position in the matter of crashing synths while waiting for something reproducable to pop up. BTW, I'll ignore the asshole comment, as I'm not trying to start a flame war here, I just wanted some friggin' information. >write to a mailing list? The 1000 users who are busy producing music because their synths work just fine or the one of them who is experiencing problems because something went wrong? > >Now that sounds more like it...;) I believe the problem is that usually you never hear about any problems people have with *anything* since you're never able to eavesdrop on their tech support. Here you hear everything that people complain about -- without anything like a relation how common it is among customers in general. > Listen, that exact reason is why I joined the list. I want to find out the problems people are having before I buy the damn thing. If I can resolve the problems, then great, but if there are tons of people writing in with the same problems and Access isn't doing something about it (BTW, I'm not saying they aren't here) then it doesn't matter how many satisfied customers there are. Getting a decent peice of equipment shouldn't be a numbers game, and if it turns out to be one, then I'll go blow my cash on a Supernova and forget all this crap. >Just compare the way Access actually takes time to speak to their customers and listen to their wishes, bugreports and "bug"reports (if you know what I mean) with great patience to the way you have been able to speak with the same people at other companies. So far I have never had any tech support problems, from Roland to Native Instruments and back again, and if Access is doing a good job too, then that's a mark in their favor. BTW, Thank you for providing me with at least one of the small bits of information I asked for... >You are probably not aware that Christoph Kemper is not just anyone at Access, he is the one programming the DSP and designing the beast. And so is Joerg Meissner. He is not just the intern checking out the net while the coffee machine is making coffee as you might have thought, but he is the one programming the user interface. It's always great to have someone who knows what they are talking about answering questions. Hopefully he'll be able to do it without jumping on the defensive and berating a potential customer. >Don't take this matter personally, it's just that I feel you should be more careful in what you are saying before you get your details straight. It's always easy to call someone a misinformed asshole and tell them not to take it personally, but actually helping someone with their problems, no matter how stupid or infantile they sound is a bit harder. Try it sometime... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 07:58:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:54:48 -0500 From: Brian Davis X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Brian Davis CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >You know what our problem is here maybe? You will always get a surprising number of mails refering to problems, if you join a public mailing list that is open to thousants of users worldwide. Problems are more obvious, and sometimes bad news are louder than good news. Also problems are often longer discussed than common thinks. Your made this discussion even a little longer. Yeah, but you have to get the good with the bad. Problems are a part of life. I just wanted to find out if they were over-running or just sparatic. I don't expect anything to work %100 and never fail, but I would like to know what is going to happen to me if I do end up that 1 in 1000 who has problems. > >Actually your mail is a typical example, that makes other companies not willing to discuss their products in the public, because people out there could get nervous. That's why I asked someone to please tell me that the problems I was reading about are few and far between. I really want a Virus. I think it's one of the best sounding synths out there, and the audio input is the cherry on the pie, but I still wanted to find out if I was going to be plauged with crashes and problems if I shelled out the cash. I hate to say it, but a thousand dollars is a lot of money to me, and I'm going to be nervous about spending it all on one thing, list or no list. It's best to clear this stuff up now so I can get to the purchasing part. :) > >If a problem appeared to be general, which means many users report about this, than it will be a software problem, and we will fix it as soon as possible. Thanks to all that helped us in the past, to improve the operating system. > >BTW: You wrote that you were mainly interested in finding out what the controllers of the Virus do. >Why didn't you ask before? Thank you so much for a positive, thought-out, & concise response. It's obvious you actually read my letter instead of just getting pissed of that someone was questioning your reputation. Before reading this letter I was unsure of what I wanted, but knowing that you'll be there to help me if I do have a problem is very reassuring. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 22:15:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:26:00 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 7:54 AM +0100 on 25.02.1999 Brian Davis wrote: >It's always easy to call someone a misinformed asshole and tell them not to take it >personally, but actually helping someone with their problems, no matter how stupid >or infantile they sound is a bit harder. Try it sometime... You are right. I apologize. It was just a very negative drift in your email that made me angry. Friends? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 09:42:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Pretty off topic (financing) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:38:35 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi all... I don't know if I've sent a mail about this earlier... I definitely can't find it in my inbox. I'm not surprised, after all I'm using Hotmail... yuk! Anyway. I'm probably gonna buy my Virus soon (I hope), in a shop in London that offers 0% financing, and you don't have to pay a deposit either! Does anyone on the list know how this works in reality? Do I have to set up a Direct Debit account? And just to stick something in which is ON topic: When you upgrade your Virus, or put in some new sounds, do you then delete/overwrite old stuff? Of course you overwrite the old OS, but how about the user-settings? And finally, can any of the presets be deleted with the aim of bigger user-memory, or is there a memoryupgrade (a card or sumthing) available? Thanks! -FutureVirus aka. Peter aka. SOC aka. Peden ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 10:44:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: User Memory (was: Pretty off topic (financing)) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:39:26 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Boehm Thomas-Lars I would be pleased to have more memory on the Virus, too. Maybe Access could add a single bank C in which I could store my own created sounds ! I don't want to overwrite the patches in bank A & B, and I don't want to dump the sounds I edited to my sequencer and redump them every time I want to play them, because I often use my Virus just hooked up to my keyboard. Access: is it possible to implement this user memory as a new feature in an future OS? Or is it impossible by hardware ? Thanx in advance, keep on the good support :-) TL-Bee >And just to stick something in which is ON topic: When you upgrade your Virus, or put in some new sounds, do you then delete/overwrite old stuff? Of course you overwrite the old OS, but how about the user-settings? >And finally, can any of the presets be deleted with the aim of bigger user-memory, or is there a memoryupgrade (a card or sumthing) available? > >Thanks! > >-FutureVirus aka. Peter aka. SOC aka. Peden ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 11:48:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:43:31 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: unstable virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf Brian Davis wrote: >It's always easy to call someone a misinformed asshole and tell them not to take it >personally, but actually helping someone with their problems, no matter how stupid >or infantile they sound is a bit harder. Try it sometime... jeesus f---ing christ WHAT IS THIS? >I'm not trying to start a flame war here youre NOT?!? >I just wanted some friggin' >information. oh. well, ... >The messages I have read so far led me to believe that Access is taking a passive position in the matter of crashing synths >while waiting for something reproducable to pop up. maybe you got a wrong impression there. at least, my experience with their tech support was quite different. as i have already mentioned to steve, when i got my virus, it turned out to be one of those "chrashing viruses". that was quite a disappointment, because i had been waiting for it for a pretty long time (i dont know if that has changed yet, they seemed to have problems coping with the demand for their gear at the time). anyway, the guy from the store where i bought it called tsi (distributor for access and waldorf) and described the problem, they immediately recognized that it had to be a hardware problem, he sent it away to have it fixed, and since i got it back a week later, i never had any serious trouble with it anymore. as for their update policy: its brilliant! when i bought my virus, i thought i had got myself just a real good synth. i never dreamed that i would get a free vocoder with it just a couple of months later. their idea to have the os on a flash rom so that you can have easy software upgrades is really great. it makes the virus kind of a "work in progress". and then youve got christoph kemper and joerg meissner present on this list which makes it possible to directly interact with the actual developers of the machine youre using, discussing suggestions for os versions to come, reporting bugs (i dont think there have been any serious ones in the last couple of os versions), etc. i dont think you find that very often. i hope i could help you with some of your questions. mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 12:49:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:15:37 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: Access Virus List Subject: virus in concert Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht hi all, if anyone is in Vienna at that time, he can watch me play the virus live. VIRUS IN MY BRAIN 16.3. 20:00 Blue Tomato 1150 Wurmserg. 21 U3 Johnstr./Wasserwelt regards .g.a. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 14:28:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:20:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi List, This would be great in the Virus besides the mentioned wishes of ringmodulation and matrix modulation: - EQ on the delay (12Khz and 80Khz ). (Canine mentioned it also) - Trigger patterns for the Arpeggiator (like the Waldorf Microwave XT/II) - Step value as controller (Arpeggiator steps of the trigger patterns) - Waveform modulation - Pink Noise our Noise Colour - Screen saver with CNN on line More detail about the arpeggiator and the step value controller idea: T R I G G E R P A T T E R N S Edit CTR: Page1: Trigger pattern arpeggiator Screen: ooxxoxoxxoxxoxox The maximum is 16 steps. Default setting is all steps on. (o=on x=off). Page2: Trigger pattern numbers of steps Value:xx S T E P V A L U E C O N T R O L L E R Edit CTR: Page:Step 1-4 Value Editing done with ADSR of Filter Page:Step 5-8 Value Editing done with ADSR of Filter Page:Sep 9-12 Editing dne with ADSR of Filter Page:Sep 13-16 Editing done with ADSR of Filter (screen could look like this: 080-127-020-123-)(giving the values) This STEP VALUE can be used to modulate Pitch our other source. In this way you will have an basic, but cool sequencer feature. Sorry Access for all these wishes..but her in Holland we love sequencers old style With best regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) -TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 14:40:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:36:42 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 2/25/99 6:33:24 AM US Mountain Standard Time, robpapen@multiweb.nl writes: >Sorry Access for all these wishes..but her in Holland we love sequencers old >style > >With best regards, > >Rob Papen We like them in Arizona, too :-) YES! A step-sequencer would be wonderful Christoph. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 17:44:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:38:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf rob papen wrote: >T R I G G E R P A T T E R N S >Edit CTR: > >Page1: Trigger pattern arpeggiator >Screen: ooxxoxoxxoxxoxox >The maximum is 16 steps. Default setting is all steps on. (o=on x=off). Page2: Trigger pattern numbers of steps >Value:xx > >S T E P V A L U E C O N T R O L L E R >Edit CTR: > >Page:Step 1-4 Value >Editing done with ADSR of Filter >Page:Step 5-8 Value >Editing done with ADSR of Filter >Page:Sep 9-12 >Editing dne with ADSR of Filter >Page:Sep 13-16 >Editing done with ADSR of Filter >(screen could look like this: 080-127-020-123-)(giving the values) > > >This STEP VALUE can be used to modulate Pitch our other source. In this way you will have an basic, but cool sequencer feature. sounds beautiful. sounds brilliant. even sounds realistic! access: think you could manage something of that kind? think "consider it done"! (that line seems to have already worked once on an arpeggiator improvement) (or wait a minute! just before the introduction of the vocoder, somone started a mock discussion on this list about whether the virus should have a vocoder. was that rob then? might his detailed suggestion be a hint of whats already being done in the access lab? umso besser!) mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 19:11:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "trevor lea" To: Subject: Re: Pretty off topic (financing) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:04:54 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "trevor lea" If you upgrade the OS you have the option of keeping the sounds in Banks A &B or you can reload them. If you are using a PC to sequence the Virus, you can easily dump the sounds for each song using a sysex message(s). The Virus allows you to dump the Arrangement in one shot which is very easy & works. Usually one starts off by taking a preset sound, fixing it up and then dump it (in Cakewalk there is a sysex page for receiving dumps and sending them back). In Cubase you record first before dumping. This allows you to customize the sounds for each song on each midi channel. You wont be sorry you bought a Virus. Good luck trev ---------- >From: Peter Steens To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Pretty off topic (financing) >Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:38 AM > >* From "Peter Steens" > >Hi all... > >I don't know if I've sent a mail about this earlier... I definitely can't find it in my inbox. I'm not surprised, after all I'm using Hotmail... yuk! > >Anyway. I'm probably gonna buy my Virus soon (I hope), in a shop in London that offers 0% financing, and you don't have to pay a deposit either! Does anyone on the list know how this works in reality? Do I have to set up a Direct Debit account? > > >And just to stick something in which is ON topic: When you upgrade your Virus, or put in some new sounds, do you then delete/overwrite old stuff? Of course you overwrite the old OS, but how about the user-settings? >And finally, can any of the presets be deleted with the aim of bigger user-memory, or is there a memoryupgrade (a card or sumthing) available? > >Thanks! > >-FutureVirus aka. Peter aka. SOC aka. Peden > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 20:02:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:59:17 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Zuther To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Cheap Hardware sequencer X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000462023@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.95.238.11] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martin Zuther Hi! I had an Atari myself (or something my uncle built out of an Atari). We had a problem with Notator Alpha, but that has got nothing to do with Emagic, but with the system the Atari ran on. So be careful that you get an Atari with an Atari-system in its ROM. We had some shareware system, and that broke down quite often. But apart from this you should definately consider buying one (two ???) Atari(s) - the second one for spare parts, because it will get harder and harder finding spare parts! (That's like buying two old Hammonds ;-) Martin --- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 20:34:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:30:16 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! >This would be great in the Virus besides the mentioned wishes of ringmodulation and matrix modulation: >- EQ on the delay (12Khz and 80Khz ). (Canine mentioned it also) 80Khz? Maybe you mean 80Hz, because 80Khz is not audible by homosapienti. But a very simple fitler routine on the delay wouldnt be bad at all. Of coursem you could route the sound to a separate patch with no osc, but wit a low/hi pass filter, sent to the delay. But then there is filter on the feedback. >More detail about the arpeggiator and the step value controller idea: > >T R I G G E R P A T T E R N S >Edit CTR: > >Page1: Trigger pattern arpeggiator >Screen: ooxxoxoxxoxxoxox >The maximum is 16 steps. Default setting is all steps on. (o=on x=off). Page2: Trigger pattern numbers of steps >Value:xx Looks almost like a step sequencer! Good idea!! ;-) >S T E P V A L U E C O N T R O L L E R >Edit CTR: >Page:Step 1-4 Value >Editing done with ADSR of Filter >Page:Step 5-8 Value >Editing done with ADSR of Filter >Page:Sep 9-12 >Editing dne with ADSR of Filter >Page:Sep 13-16 >Editing done with ADSR of Filter >(screen could look like this: 080-127-020-123-)(giving the values) This STEP VALUE can be used to modulate Pitch our other source. In this way you will have an basic, but cool sequencer feature. Hmmm hhmmmm!! Yess! O, dont's forget, it's an ADSTR on the virus, so tha means 5 knobs. So, you could do this too: Attack of filter makes choice between page 1 (1-8) and 2 (9-16) -two values. Page1: Step 1-8 Value Editing done with DSTR of Filter(1-4) and DSTR of Amp (5-8) Page2: Step 13-16 Editing done with DSTR of Filter (9-12) and DSTR of Amp (13-16) Attack of Amp could be used for spees or whatever... don't know. To enter the sequencer mode: press saturation a second time. (press once when in vocoder mode) Now you're in value menu. Pressing saturation an other time give a trigger menu. Each knob of DTSR stands for on or off (turn left, turn right) Maybe the attack of the amp could be a transposer in the value menu, while it is for step-size in trigger mode. Pressing sat. in combination would turn the sequencer on and off. Of course I could await my Regelwerk... Dimitri. >Sorry Access for all these wishes..but her in Holland we love sequencers old style >With best regards, >Rob Papen I could have known it was you... :-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 20:44:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Envelops and LFOs Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:39:00 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" I posted a message last week hat seemed to get lost so here it is again... A friend of mine is very interested in the Virus and would like one, but he would like one feature which it doesn't have, and so would I :-) On the oberheim expander, you can trigger the envelopes with the LFO, so that you can play without needing a keyboard attached (and produce some weirder sounds). Any hope of this in a future release? Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 10:41:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:29:32 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:33 AM +0100 on 26.02.1999 Thomas Whitmore wrote: >On the delay front (EQs etc), how about allowing the delay to be looped thru a multi-part for processing? Allowing filter sweeps, saturation, maybe even vocoding... Sound nasty? Sounds nasty, but it's easy... just go into multi mode (you have to to use multiple parts anyways) and go to the "Delay Multi" OutSel" page, set it to "AUX 1+2". Then go to another part, select the input mode to be "Static" and select AUX 1+2 as your input source. then abuse as much as you like.. BUT: this is not the way I wanted to do this. This involves stepping around too much between the original sound and the filter for the delay (since this is the main point why I asked for this). I want this to be quickly accessable, because I use loads and loads of dub-like delays when performing live. and this is the one parameter I really really miss on the Virus... fank you...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 11:17:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:10:11 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: RM1x & live situations Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:49 AM +0100 on 26.02.1999 Peter Steens wrote: >they liked it and the PA made it really go "booom!!". I played some d'n'b, trip-hop and various arppegios, while fiddling 'round with effects and stuff... >How cool couldn't this be if I kicked the MC-303 to where it belongs, and bought myself a RM1x and a Virus instead? But peter... I know about fascination for new gear and the inspiration it can give but... why change a running system? You know the MC, you can work it and now it's time to push it to its limits (I'm sure you are doing that already!)... if it works fine for you, why get carried away into buying something new...;) I know what it's like and I do it all the time. But sometimes, I think less is more... Just trying to inspire...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 23:08:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:16:48 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: virus & radio Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:38 AM +0100 on 26.02.1999 di-mi@dds.nl wrote: >am going to search my radio back... A radio on my Virus... get a scanner instead of a radio and use live police transmissions during the illegal rave... then you know immediately when they are on your tracks...;) (thi si extremely prohibited in Germany, so don't try this at home, kids...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Feb 25 23:45:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:44:13 +0100 From: "hans w. koch" X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list Subject: Re: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness hi mic., as valuable as i found your suggestions considering the resolution of timedivisions (1/1, 2/1 etc., me too, i like to play with multilayered arpeggiator resolutions), i don´t agree with the priority given to all these pseudo-stepsequencer-features. for me, the virus is mostly a wonderful soundproducing- unit, the "patternization" comes later on, or from external devices (i am working with a yamaha qy 70 - very small, but flexible). therefore i vote for priority of 1.) modulationmatrix, 2.) good old ringmodulator. hoplessly oldfashioned hansX-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 04:43:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:33:33 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >From: hans w. koch >i don´t agree with the priority given to all these pseudo- stepsequencer-features. >for me, the virus is mostly a wonderful soundproducing- unit, the "patternization" comes later on, or from external devices Damn straight! Improved modulation (esp from velocity) and ring mod should definitely be priorities. On the delay front (EQs etc), how about allowing the delay to be looped thru a multi-part for processing? Allowing filter sweeps, saturation, maybe even vocoding... Sound nasty? Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 05:14:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 05:10:34 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: Trigger patterns and Step value controller Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf hans w. koch wrote: >i don´t agree with the priority given to all these pseudo-stepsequencer-features. >for me, the virus is mostly a wonderful soundproducing- unit, the "patternization" comes later on, or from external devices well, we obviously have different aproaches to making music. i personally couldnt separate creation of sounds and their positioning in time the way it seems to work for you. that wouldnt make much sense to me, it wouldnt be compatible with my understanding of music. for me, the two belong together, and i like to have them organized in one neat little red box with knobs and beautifully glowing little leds on it. but as i have already stated, maybe my use of the virus isnt typical. one of the great things about the virus is that it has a lot to offer for a variety of different kinds of users and their different musical approaches. at least potentially, it is much much more than just another well made digital imitation of a heap of analog vintage synths. i already like to play my virus in live gigs with nothing else but a keyboard, and an su12 and an old radio hooked to its external inputs. obviously i would give a high priority to any feature that would make the virus an even more versatile and sophisticated stand-alone live instrument by improving its capacity for rhythmical organization of sound events. so for me, a pattern-oriented sequencer-like arpeggiator of the kind that rob has suggested would be really phantastic. that doesnt mean that i wouldnt appreciate a ring modulator. id sure love to have one, too. lets see what the next software update will bring. i think, it is long past due (ahem!) mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 10:19:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RM1x & live situations Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:49:35 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi all! I kinda slagged off the RM1x earlier, but now I've actually read up on it, and it seems to be absolutely perfect for me. Just imagine that cool blue thingy next to the agressive red colour of the Virus... Yihaa! But greatest of all... it seems to be an absolutely wicked sequencer, and it's got FD!! Then I plan to use it as drum'n'sequencer-module, plus make it play the kind of sounds the Virus is not capable of doing (no offence, but even the nicest piece of gear has got its limits...). But more to the point: Does anyone in here own a RM1x? Has anyone used the RM1x with or without the Virus in live situations? Has anyone used the RM1x and the Virus in live situations together with a live band (singer, drummer, bass, guitar and... suprise... DJ!)? If so, or if you've experienced something that comes close, I'd really like to hear about it. What kind of problems did you face? Yesterday I went to rehearse with this band for the first time. I brought my MC-303 (as this is still the only piece of gear I have :-( ), they liked it and the PA made it really go "booom!!". I played some d'n'b, trip-hop and various arppegios, while fiddling 'round with effects and stuff... How cool couldn't this be if I kicked the MC-303 to where it belongs, and bought myself a RM1x and a Virus instead? Ok ok... enough babbling for now. See you! -FutureVirus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 10:52:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RM1x (an addition) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 01:49:07 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Hi all! Just forgot to ask if the RM1x can record the knob-twisting of the Virus, or at least some of them. I.e.: is it a REAL sequencer, or does it just trigger notes, velocity, gate and panning position (as the MC-303)? Thanks a lot! -FutureVirus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 10:42:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:38:49 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: virus & radio WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! michael wolf schreef: >i already like to play my virus in live gigs with nothing else but a >keyboard, and an su12 and an old radio hooked to its external inputs. >obviously i would give a high priority to any feature that would make the >virus an even more versatile and sophisticated stand-alone live instrument >by improving its capacity for rhythmical organization of sound events. so >for me, a pattern-oriented sequencer-like arpeggiator of the kind that rob >has suggested would be really phantastic. A radio! Soundswe have about the same style of making music.... with only an LW radio you can do great things! It's become a sound we don't hear anymore. Little high notes, it works great with echo. My brother once did a perfomrance with a radio. Someone said to him that his samples of that news-broadcast on MW were veery up to date. He was partly right: It was the 2 o clock broadcast on the radio. But it wasn't sampled. Tuning the radio wrong give a nice ring mod like effect. Hmmm, guess I am going to search my radio back... A radio on my Virus... woowh! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 12:00:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [193.128.28.181] From: "Peter Steens" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RM1x & live situations Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:56:40 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Steens" Argh! The voice of reason! Oh... maybe I am a little carried away by this fascinating piece of gear. I am gonna buy a Virus though. Think I'll call 'em today to ask for financing possibilities. Anyway... I'm quite fed up with the limitations of the MC-303. I don't have access to a PC, so I can't do bulk dumps, and that's why I'd really like the RM1x... it seems to suit my needs for instant gratification, loads of memory (with an FD, what's gonna stop you?), and a more "hans on" sequncer. And nicer sounds. The only thing that is really gonna stop me is my economy. It will already be quite stretched when purchasing a Virus, not to say the pathetic little 4-track tape recorder I got my eyes on... Damn! Yet somehow it would be so sad to say goodbye to the MC... I have finally learned how to use it fully (after being terribly disappointed for about half a year), and I'm now spanking great tunes out of it. I recently did a sort of club mix of Odysee of Noises' "Firedance", which unfortunately is so demanding it hicks and coughs from time to time during playback. I gotta learn to make my mails shorter... :-) See ya! Peter > >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 9:49 AM +0100 on 26.02.1999 Peter Steens wrote: >>they liked it and the PA made it really go "booom!!". I played some d'n'b, trip-hop and various arppegios, while fiddling 'round with effects and stuff... >>How cool couldn't this be if I kicked the MC-303 to where it belongs, and bought myself a RM1x and a Virus instead? > >But peter... I know about fascination for new gear and the inspiration it >can give but... why change a running system? You know the MC, you can work >it and now it's time to push it to its limits (I'm sure you are doing that >already!)... > >if it works fine for you, why get carried away into buying something new...;) > >I know what it's like and I do it all the time. But sometimes, I think less >is more... > >Just trying to inspire...;) > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 20:39:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:17:43 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: RM1x & live situations Cc: hwseq-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >But more to the point: Does anyone in here own a RM1x? Has anyone used the RM1x with or without the Virus in live situations? Has anyone used the RM1x and the Virus in live situations together with a live band (singer, drummer, bass, guitar and... suprise... DJ!)? I've used the Virus with my QY700... but not the RM1X yet. Mine is still on its way to me... :( I think the combo of Virus+RM1X is definitely a good one. In fact for the last three days I've been dreaming up rack cabinet designs that I could put my Virus, my A3000 and the RM1X all together in a little unit for live performance... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 21:30:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "nightgoat" To: Subject: Re: RM1x & live situations Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:26:18 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "nightgoat" Not to sound like @$$ or anything, but why do you want an RM1X when you already have a QY700? I am thinking of buying a QY700, I like the fact that it has two sets of MIDI I/O's. Is there a huge enough difference between the two to own them both? Pro's and Con's of the two would be nice! -----Original Message----- From: Jay Vaughan To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: hwseq-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 1:41 PM Subject: Re: RM1x & live situations >* From Jay Vaughan > >>But more to the point: Does anyone in here own a RM1x? Has anyone used the RM1x with or without the Virus in live situations? Has anyone used the RM1x and the Virus in live situations together with a live band (singer, drummer, bass, guitar and... suprise... DJ!)? > >I've used the Virus with my QY700... but not the RM1X yet. Mine is still on its way to me... :( > >I think the combo of Virus+RM1X is definitely a good one. In fact for the last three days I've been dreaming up rack cabinet designs that I could put my Virus, my A3000 and the RM1X all together in a little unit for live performance... > > > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com >Partner, TekLab | la, calif. >Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] >^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Feb 26 21:55:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:40:16 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: RM1x & live situations Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 02:26 PM 2/26/99 -0600, you wrote: >* From "nightgoat" Not to sound like @$$ or anything, but why do you want an RM1X when you already have a QY700? I am thinking of buying a QY700, I like the fact that it has two sets of MIDI I/O's. Is there a huge enough difference between the two to own them both? Pro's and Con's of the two would be nice! > I want both, actually. The QY700 as a composition tool, and the RM1x as a live creative remixing performance tool. I think they complement each other quite well, for reasons I can't get into right now because I'm too busy ... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] SpyCam:[http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html] ^^^^ Updates every 30 seconds ^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 27 01:58:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:50:17 +0100 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Got it! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martijn Baan Yess!!! I bought one! First went to several banks to collect the money... The problem is: I was looking for the JP-8080, everybody said i should buy the thing. Until I made an apointment with a colleague and (new) friend. He has a JP-8000 and a Virus (among other nice equipment) I have listened the whole evening, but it wasn't necessary. The first tones... So i bought it. Yess. So happy, you guys can't imagine! (yess you can...) Greetings from a newbe named Bean ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 00:13:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:57:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: ....2.....3.....4.....and now all : MORE VOICES !!!!!!!! ;=) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:29 PM +0100 on 27.02.1999 Elhardt@aol.com wrote: >Want more voices, just buy a second Virus. That is almost what I did, but since I thought it might be nice to have a little variety, I may end up with a Waldorf Q to add another 16 multi-timbral voices to my Virus. I notice that it has a lot to do with what your studio is like. if you have something like 5-7 synths or more, you don't need that many voices or multiparts in any instrument. A friend of mine uses all of his synths in single mode all the time. Weird, isn't it? When you listen to a factory demo for a particular machine, you usually know (unless it's a rompler) because most of them lack a bit of variety. All sounds have a certain characteristic to them and that's why it makes more sense to me to get a different synth than two of the same... but then again... the Virus offeres so much, you could use one just for the external processing... always hooked up for the filter, delay and vocoder stuff...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 00:13:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:03:30 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Frankfurt Musikmesse Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" The way it looks now, I will only be able to come to the Musikmesse for one day, which will be next thursday. I will be roaming the place to look here and there but will be at the TSi booth for longer periods of time I guess. possibly and hopefully I will get to see some of you guys and girls there..?! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 27 14:52:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: unstable virus Date: Sam, 27 Feb 99 14:54:40 -0000 x-sender: marc.schlaile@mail.dortmund.netsurf.de From: Marc Schlaile To: Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marc Schlaile brian, think about as long as you can. the more i will have to create great (...selling...) music with my full working virus ;-) marc >>Actually your mail is a typical example, that makes other companies not willing to discuss their products in the public, because people out there could get nervous. > >That's why I asked someone to please tell me that the problems I was reading about >are few and far between. I really want a Virus. _____________________________________________________________ babylonwaves media email:babylonwaves@usa.net _____________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 27 18:43:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: ....2.....3.....4.....and now all : MORE VOICES !!!!!!!! ;=) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 99 18:40:39 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz hi all, now that i got my "red devil" since system 1.0.8 (!) i must say that i never had a virtual analog synth sounding that good .but u know how it is...we all can`t get enough once we got infected,and so i always think about one thing : i wish it had more voices !!! ??? i dont even want to think of what u can do with this little red something if it had 24....32....64.......voices.... why not all wishing it to be voice-expandable,so that chris kemper and guido kirsch have to agree and say: "damned,we could earn even more big money,if we offer a voice-expansionboard (at least 12 voices more) for the virus !! " ;=)))))))) wouldn`t we all buy one ? (if its payable) :=))))))))) together we´re strong (blahblah....) regards, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 27 20:33:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:29:39 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ....2.....3.....4.....and now all : MORE VOICES !!!!!!!! ;=) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Nico Herz) wrote: <> Want more voices, just buy a second Virus. That is almost what I did, but since I thought it might be nice to have a little variety, I may end up with a Waldorf Q to add another 16 multi-timbral voices to my Virus. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 27 23:04:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: ....2.....3.....4.....and now all : MORE VOICES !!!!!!!! ;=) To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Valentijn Steenhoudt You could always sample some tracks to save voices and then edit them with your sampler. You can get some very satisfying results! ---Elhardt@aol.com wrote: > >* From Elhardt@aol.com > >(Nico Herz) wrote: ><> > >Want more voices, just buy a second Virus. That is almost what I did, but >since I thought it might be nice to have a little variety, I may end up with a >Waldorf Q to add another 16 multi-timbral voices to my Virus. > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Feb 27 23:13:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:05:39 +0100 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Cubase studiomodule Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martijn Baan Hi guys, I wanna know if there is a studiomodule file (.dev) for the Access. I bought the Virus yesterday and i work with a 1080 and i like those modules. Can someone give me more info on that subject? Ive tried Steinberg site, but couldnt find it. (dont know where to look!) All I can say is that it isnt a mixermap. Greetings from Bean Bean-inc@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 02:38:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:27:42 +0100 From: "ptolemy, child of november" Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: newbie wants answers?! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "ptolemy, child of november" Hey all. some of you may already have heard from me. (rob, dimitri) others havent even seen me post. all of this (i hope) will change now. I think there are some "newbies" on the list, like me, who really like to get into the "posse" but are somehow left out. Mostly due to the fact that they dont know jacksh*t about Midi and all of that talk about ring modulator and sequencing the step-oscillator thru the external effect live bank. (AND YEAH. i know i talk shit...) So what i'd really like (and _more_ people i think) is a good intro into this scene. If any of you know where to start, please reply. Thanks in advance, a dutch midi junkie in the make, John Machielsen. - culthero.com - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Elhardt@aol.com wrote : >Want more voices, just buy a second Virus. hi elhardt, see,that is what i dont want.here`s why : first of all i dont have more voices then,i just have another virus wich is not the same situation,cause if i want to create a layered,percussive bass for example,the timing is very important,also the parameter punch and phasesync . did u ever try to put two percussive basses together in octave via midi ? u will see that the punch and the power is gone cause its flaming,u will have double attacks,and so on... and if i want to make a fat layer at the bottom,maybe with twinmode,i have six voices only,so it cuts the release if i grab a fat chord....u know about it i bet.... and i have still 3 more stereoouts wich u could use instead of buying a new virus... and what is this genious multimode for if u cannot use it by using fat sounds (remember that there are presets also made often with twinmode,thats at least the reason why they sound so good ) ! :=) now of course i create my own sounds in order to use them in multimode but its boring to know that the virus could sound much better if u could use twinmode without thinking always of the fact that u have to be careful with the twinmode or with layering two sounds as one... if there was the possibility to upgrade to more voices i could use the virus as what it is in singlemode : a fat,bestsounding ever synthesizer. why has it to be the law,that virtual analog synthies have only a few voices,and sampleplayers like the jv 2080 always have got so many ? the reason can`t be the price,its nearly the same.... its time to put the goodies of both sides together,or at least give the possibility to do so by upgrading (wich i would pay for without beeing angry ) and the tip to buy the Q does not count ,cause then i just got another synth wich sounds good though but still is only a workaround and not a solution for me cause its very big (i`ve got so many synthies,i don`t have space for another keyboard)and its very expensive (way over!). but ,just to hit the point : u can make a voiceupgrade on the Q !! :=))) just to make it straight : i love the virus !! its great !! but its hard if u know ,that, if there just would be more voices, u could push it up to the 100%, comparing to what the virus is able now.... btw:that i will buy another virus is fact anyway,simply because its sounding best ! ;=) regards,nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 14:31:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 02:21:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: newbie wants answers?! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:27 PM +0100 on 27.02.1999 ptolemy, child of november wrote: >So what i'd really like (and _more_ people i think) is a good intro into this scene. >If any of you know where to start, please reply Hi John, If you want to get into midi, be prepared to enter a world, stranger that you have ever imagined. It's like taking a trip back to the early eighties, when MIDI was made a standard... go to my Virus site at http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus and check out the FAQ there. at the bottom of the FAQ there are a few links that set you up with the basics of analog and other synthesizers. Then you could try the following links: www.harmonycentral.com www.hyperreal.com www.sonicstate.com www.synthfool.com www.dancetech.com all of these are music related sites, and I am sure you will find a MIDI tutorial or a lead to one on at least one of these sites. try the last two first, I think these are most likely to offer something like that. Getting the best out of midi involves reading many manuals, introductions and especially twiddling your synths to see it all in action... good luck. You will make it! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 01:59:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: ....2.....3.....4.....and now all : MORE VOICES !!!!!!!! ;=) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 99 01:55:28 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote : >A friend of mine uses all of his synths in single mode all the time. Weird, isn't it? oh...he`s not alone,man,i can tell !!! diletantism !! :=) >but then again... the Virus offeres so much u say it !! thats what i mean...it sounds so good ,that u can create almost every sound u want in a "pefectly-fitting-in-the-mix-quality",so that i only want to use another synthie if i need something that the virus can`t do,and that is not sooo much.... i really know what im talking about by saying that,i got 15 synthesisers,from analog to digital.... dont get me wrong,they`re all great and i never wanna miss`em at all,but non of them is quite perfectly allround like the virus is... so , a compromise : i will get me another virus, but PLEASE,GOD,GIVE ME A VOICE-EXPANSION !!! :=)))) greetings, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >no lowcut studios< nico herz nolowcut@gmx.de "may the sound be with you" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 05:05:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:57:18 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: newbie wants answers?! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn I think figureing out midi is part of writing techno.....getting a grasp on the technology is part of the music...IMO...Not that I wouldn't be happy to answer a question, but I think part of electronic music is about empowerment through technology, and making it happen YOUR way..... I spent two years reading keyboard, electronic musician, and future music (QUICK DISCLAIMER: I no longer read future music because I think it's exceptionaly lame...has no good information and is a paid mouth peice for advertiesers (they do have good pictures though) ) before I got my first keyboards then I made a lot of crappy lame music..... and now I just make really odd tracks dont worry if your doing it right or well.....just do it, if you make honest music then you will do fine CrAzYjOn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 09:38:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: newbie wants answers?! Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:28:26 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" >* From CrAzYjOn >then I made a lot of crappy lame music..... If you're happy to produce bad, cheesey and/or cliched music... ...you'll be suprised by how good some of it is. Cheers, Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 09:49:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "dbx" To: Subject: virus price Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:46:36 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "dbx" hi, ive been reading about different synths for a few weeks and im going to buy the virus. my question is what type of price should i look for? im in california, a local store said they have them for $1300 and that he would work me a deal. is under 1300 good? dbx ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 19:03:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:58:53 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: ....2.....3.....4.....and now all : MORE VOICES !!!!!!!! ;=) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >I notice that it has a lot to do with what your studio is like. if you have something like 5-7 synths or more, you don't need that many voices or multiparts in any instrument. A friend of mine uses all of his synths in single mode all the time. Weird, isn't it? I can do even weirder than that. I not only do I have all my synths usually in single mode, but I even play them in unison! Effectively merging my whole studio into one glorious multilayered sound. Especially for strings and pads, but also sometimes for bass, complex percussive hits, etc. The secret? Multitracking! I have an Akai DPS12 recorder, and record one part at a time. Seperate passes for drums, bass, pad, sequencer, solo, effects. - Ronald. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 13:06:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:58:44 +0100 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Agree Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Martijn Baan Well, This one is from Bean in Holland. I agree fully with John Machielsen cause i just bought a virus 2 days ago and am really glad. But the language y'all use is rather difficult. That's know problem. I can figure it out myself by asking all my friends, reading all books and so on...Kind of impossible heh? But anyway, the machine is great. And some of the messages i receive are helpful. I hope for example that someone can tell me where i can find "single select" in my Virus. Ofcourse I searced in the edit menu in multi mode, but couldnt find it? (I have os 2.1 by the way) Well, can anybody help me out? Martijn Baan Bean-inc@dds.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 13:04:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Hardware sequencer Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:02:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >the really obvious choice here is alesis mmt-8 eeh????? about 100$ used in the U.S. >weld Or a Korg SQD-8 (just about the same age as the Alesis). Could be better for live (?) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 16:12:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:06:01 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus price Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com I paid $1175, incl. tax/shipping, to Grandma's Music. Email Chizmo7 and tell'em Blake sent ya... << hi, ive been reading about different synths for a few weeks and im going to buy the virus. my question is what type of price should i look for? im in california, a local store said they have them for $1300 and that he would work me a deal. is under 1300 good? >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 20:02:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:58:23 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: Agree Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen I believe there are lots of us who use our synths in single mode and also don't know too much about all the technical features. You can make very useful sounds just twidiling the knobs. If you understand how the envelopes and filters work, and learn to use the arpeggiator, that's a good start. I wouldn't go to MIDI first (well, of course you must have a midikeyboard). --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI FINLAND mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 20:20:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:14:53 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus price Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com Someone mentioned that Music Central is selling the Virus for $1150. Their web address is: http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 20:36:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:32:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: virus & radio Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda >get a scanner instead of a radio and use live police transmissions during the illegal rave... then you know immediately when they are on your tracks...;) > >(this is extremely prohibited in Germany, so don't try this at home, kids...;) Haha! Okay, I guess I can do that only in Germany when having a performance at the love parade... :-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 20:59:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:55:40 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: EVP (Re: newbie wants answers?!) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Well, I have to admit that I sometimes think that I send more time on the list than on the virus. That's because I do a lot of mail when I should be working. :-) About the "posse", it's not really a closed "posse", anyone can come to the meeting, anyone is invited! By the way, did I forget to put people on the list, or do you want to be put on the memberlist of the EVP? Just send me a mail privately containing the needed information like in the table on http://145.99.128.7/dimi . About that MIDI-jackshooting, I'd hate if everbody would only talk about MIDI-this-that-blahblah in the coffeeshop in Amsterdam with our cup of coffee-guiness-whatever. It's nice to talk about OS upgrades which will probably never be made (or will they?? ;-p ) but the music is the most important. And there's only one way to communicate about music, and that's by making it! So bring your red synthie with you and join the meeting! O yeah, some days ago we reached 600 visitors border on the page. The meeting will be at the end of april, probably in the weekend of about april 23rd, but I haven't heard a definitive reaction yet. See you! Dimitri. >some of you may already have heard from me. (rob, dimitri) others havent even seen me post. >all of this (i hope) will change now. >I think there are some "newbies" on the list, like me, who really like to get >into the "posse" but are somehow left out. Mostly due to the fact that they dont know jacksh*t about Midi and all of >that talk about ring modulator and sequencing the step-oscillator thru the external >effect live bank. (AND YEAH. i know i talk shit...) > >So what i'd really like (and _more_ people i think) is a good intro into this scene. >If any of you know where to start, please reply. John Machielsen. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Feb 28 21:07:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:03:18 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Agree Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I agree! All those other hardware-like sequencers, mixers, add-on effects and 'hidden features' of the virus are nice, but not a must for good sounds. The virus is soooo easy. Sooo simple. That's why I'd like to have a sampler or step-sequencer like that (oops, sorry, here I go again...! :-) ) Sometimes focusing too much on the technicals of a machine can break your inspiration. Dimitri. At 20:58 28-2-99 +0200, you wrote: >* From Mara Salminen I believe there are lots of us who use our synths in single mode and also don't know too much about all the technical features. You can make very useful sounds just twidiling the knobs. If you understand how the envelopes and filters work, and learn to use the arpeggiator, that's a good start. I wouldn't go to MIDI first (well, of course you must have a midikeyboard). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!