I just recogniced that my lovely drums i programed on the virus b , are only playing stable when there is no other part playing in multisingle mode . Unfortunately it is very obvious :( As soon there are more part playing the beat does play with extremely various punch .I have set phase init to on . Is it possible that other parts without phaseinit do reset the one with it??? Maybe a bug , maybe not .... dont know , anyone else ??? Olisheesh you feel sorry for the brits, I don't know of any other place as expensive as here (australia). what's the brit price for virus kb 1200 pounds (thats $AUS3000), whats the price they want here $AUS5000+ thats $US3100, or 2000 pounds, you wonder why most music here seems to be guitar stuff. In fact that's about the norm, I can tell, because it always works out about the same for an item if I add the price of a return air ticket to the US and the cost of purchase there, is about how much it costs me to get it here. Sad but true craig -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Rodgers [mailto:brodgers@ofdc.on.ca] Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2000 4:37 To: 'access-list@teklab.com' Subject: RE: Buying Virusb online I'm actually looking for a kb myself right now(hence why I signed up on the list!), and I'm curious as to what people have paid for theirs. Long and McQuade gave me a price, but I've seen them used(already?!) for $1575US on Harmony Central. I'm in Toronto, Canada, so I know that British pricing is 'way out there', but US and DM dollars translate pretty well into Canadian funds(I really feel sorry for what you Brits have to pay for electronics...) Thanks, B -----Original Message----- From: John Machielsen [mailto:culthero@swankarmy.net] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:24 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Buying Virusb online I have good experiences with Musician's Gear from Frankfurt, http://www.musicians-gear.com i bought my Emagic Unitor8 midi interface there, for about 3/5 of the price i'd pay here in the Netherlands. greetings, John Machielsen the virus patchpoint,=> http://virus.k29.nu Jorge Muguruza wrote: >Hi list, > >Does anybody Know a good place (site) to buy online Virusb o yamaha product in the European Comunity? > >Thanks in advance... > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comHi, As Rob already stated in one of his previous mails, I'm working on a soundset. Still a long way to go, but eventually I hope to be able to offer a nice trance/techno set. So, if anyone has special requests, now is the time! Any types of sounds, sounds that you know from existing records etc... I'm open for ideas. I have many sounds already, but it'd be nice to hear what people actually want. Maybe it's better to send it to me privately as it might be a little too off topic for this list. I have some very concrete questions as well: 1) Do you want the sounds to be sorted by type? (eg basses together etc) 2) Do you want percussion sounds and efx? I'm just asking because I hardly use any percussion or efx from synths myself and therefore I don't know whether I should add many percussion sounds. The soundset will focus on useful sounds that fit well in the mix. Greetings, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysHi there Joeri, i don't believe your message is completely offtopic, because it is a soundset for the Virus you're making, so there. Plus the fact, that there hasn't been some email conversation the last few hours..haha. Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >Hi, > >As Rob already stated in one of his previous mails, I'm working on a soundset. Still a long way to go, but eventually I hope to be able to offer a nice trance/techno set. > Do you have a definite striving date for yourself ? like march 31st or whatever. Will it be Virus b optimized ? Will it be free or commercial release ? > >So, if anyone has special requests, now is the time! Any types of sounds, sounds that you know from existing records etc... I'm open for > Ok tell us some of the sounds you already have, make us drool ! I for one, would love to have some Gouryella type sounds, and the throbbing, pulsating bass sound from that Cygnus X song..do you know which one i'm talking about ? > >1) Do you want the sounds to be sorted by type? (eg basses together etc) > Definitely YESS!! i do this myself too right now. i'd love it. > >2) Do you want percussion sounds and efx? I'm just asking because I hardly use any percussion or efx from synths myself and therefore I don't know whether I should add many percussion sounds. > Hmm, no not really going for percussion. I'll get my techno and trance percussion and drums from a sampler thank you. Not to say the Virus can't make these sounds, but no. Efx..thats another question. Depends on what you want to make...But most people have some other staple synths that can generate this crap pretty decently, like all the Korg and Roland workstations and JV/XP stuff you know. They can do that Squeeking Bird and Bell Sound perfectly well. Give me pulsating synthleads and throbbing basslines, the likes of Green Velvet, Luke Slater, Dj Tiesto, Ferry Corsten and a whole lotta other peeps. > >The soundset will focus on useful sounds that fit well in the mix. > >Greetings, >Joeri Greetings yourself, you have given me something to talk about this lame evening/night here in the Netherlands. John Machielsen the virus patchpoint => http://virus.k29.nuHm, maybe this is for Joeri but others may be interested as well I recently heard a nice patch from the JV-1080 called "JP-8 Strings" at my friend's studio. I didn't have the time to record the sound in a way to be able to recreate it on my Virus. Has anyone made a sound like that? (if you know it, I believe it is from the Vintage card) Maybe people who have that synth can reproduce it? I would love to have it on my virus... ;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I also hope to offer a free soundset soon. my sounds will be more of the classic synth variety which a few of you have had a taste of. best weld Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >Hi, > >As Rob already stated in one of his previous mails, I'm working on a soundset. Still a long way to go, but eventually I hope to be able to offer a nice trance/techno set. > >So, if anyone has special requests, now is the time! Any types of sounds, sounds that you know from existing records etc... I'm open for ideas. I have many sounds already, but it'd be nice to hear what people actually want. Maybe it's better to send it to me privately as it might be a little too off topic for this list. I have some very concrete questions as well: >1) Do you want the sounds to be sorted by type? (eg basses together etc) > >2) Do you want percussion sounds and efx? I'm just asking because I hardly use any percussion or efx from synths myself and therefore I don't know whether I should add many percussion sounds. > >The soundset will focus on useful sounds that fit well in the mix. > >Greetings, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > >http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysHi, >Do you have a definite striving date for yourself ? like march 31st or whatever. March 31 seems like a possible date. It will definitely be no later than that. >Will it be Virus b optimized ? Definitely!!!! It'll still sound nice on the original Virus, but it will also be very optimized for the Virus B. >Will it be free or commercial release ? It'll be a commercial release. >Ok tell us some of the sounds you already have, make us drool ! I have some more standard sounds already: some nice basses, some pads, some sequence sounds, also some leads (Veracocha's Carte Blanche theme sound eg). >I for one, would love to have some Gouryella type sounds, and the throbbing, pulsating >bass sound from that Cygnus X song..do you know which one i'm talking about ? I know the name Gouryella, but I don't recall the song right now. If possible, send me a short MP3 fragment of the song you mean and I'll do my best to offer the sounds you want. >Hmm, no not really going for percussion. I'll get my techno and trance percussion and drums from a sampler thank you. Same over here: my sampler is always used for percussion. >Give me pulsating synthleads and throbbing basslines, the likes of Green Velvet, Luke Slater, Dj Tiesto, >Ferry Corsten and a whole lotta other peeps. I'll do my best. Thanks for your input! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejayswhy always reproducing sounds ??? I can't believe it if I want a jp-string...I buy a Jp or a sample-cd. If I want to have a deep moog bass, I find it on a sample cd. do not make the virus to an expander !!! the virus is for sounds you never find in expanders or sample cds ! that is what I really mean !!! cheers nicosounds like a good idea ; ) some sounds i'd vote for would be A. watery, liqud, dripping, stacato pulse B. smooth legato pad with opening envelopes C. really hard biting stab synth just some ideas, i've made some like these myself but it's hard to describe the sound in you head maybe we can work an Access Brain Modem to connect to the Virus Input or route through a couple hamsters in sequence ; ) as far as the fx and drums i don't really use them often unless it's you've got a really sweet one, it'd be great to check out big ups Androiddoesnt rob have in his sounds call jp8 strings?,........ I have a jd990 ex and know this patch well. Kai add some light chorusing and turn the filter down a bit, should get ya close, please dont buy a jp8 or a sample cd, the virus can do it! weld K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >Hm, maybe this is for Joeri but others may be interested as well > >I recently heard a nice patch from the JV-1080 called "JP-8 Strings" at my friend's studio. I didn't have the time to record the sound in a way to be able to recreate it on my Virus. Has anyone made a sound like that? (if you know it, I believe it is from the Vintage card) > >Maybe people who have that synth can reproduce it? I would love to have it on my virus... > >;-) > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe the other parts are stealing polyphony from the drum part so that the drums don't play back correctly when the other parts are going? >I just recogniced that my lovely drums i programed on the virus b , are only playing >stable when there is no other part playing in multisingle mode . Unfortunately it is very >obvious :( >As soon there are more part playing the beat does play with extremely various punch .I have set phase init to on .does anyone have any opinions of a sequntial cerquits vs a virusdoes anyone have any opinions of a sequntial cerquits vs a virus It's kinda like apples & walnuts. I've got a sequential circuits Pro-One. A great little monophonic keyboard, if you don't mind a little oscillator drift. The 48-note sequencer is pretty cool. Good filters; plus an audio input jack. For a special treat, open up the keyboard & look at the cool circuit board design. I use my Pro-One a fair amount when I'm out playing live (confession: I don't do much pure electronica, but mostly live original swing/bluegrass/dixieland-esq chaos music). The Virus is a wonderful board as well, and will do pretty much everything that the Pro-One could do, and then some. (OK, it doesn't have an onboard step-sequencer, but ya can't have everything) But the sound is inherently different, no matter what anybody tries to tell me--analog simulation & true analog just aren't the same. Not better, not worse, just--different. I mainly use my Virus in the studio setting, where it has been the source of long nights of no sleep, much coffee, and exceptional amounts of fun. Some of the most bad-ass bass sounds ever have come out of my trusty Virus A, not to mention wickedly morphing pads. But I'm a sucker for old analog gear, with all its inherent unpredictability. If you can actually find a sequential circuits board in good condition at a reasonable price, I'd say leap on it & don't look back. Better yet--get an SC *and* a Virus. Best of both worlds! -marc No , shouldnt be the point . The drums are using one voice and and as soon as i add another part the problem occurs . Gabe schrieb: >Maybe the other parts are stealing polyphony from the drum part so that the drums don't play back correctly when the other parts are going? > >>I just recogniced that my lovely drums i programed on the virus b , are only playing >>stable when there is no other part playing in multisingle mode . Unfortunately it is very >>obvious :( >>As soon there are more part playing the beat does play with extremely various punch .I have set phase init to on .TestThe driver version 2.1 is on its way. Testing has begun, we will see... New features are (just) the new patch names contained inside "second.mid" with OS Version 2.5x. Wether the driver might work together with Virus-B I don't know yet. flp CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrauschyes!! Just recieved my virus b on my door!! Ordered from www.musiciansgear.com! Good prices. 2190 DM. It has got the knobs of the kb model!! Is this normal? Oh...can't wait to get busy with this beauty..... see ya, Jon k.2190,- DM for virusb ??? no ... can't believe it...even musicexplorer - know for low prices - sell it for 2700,- !!! the virus b - not the kb ! ciao nicogood price! the knobs are normal! stay fresh jens "Jon k." schrieb: > >yes!! > >Just recieved my virus b on my door!! Ordered from www.musiciansgear.com! Good prices. 2190 DM. It has got the knobs of the kb model!! Is this normal? Oh...can't wait to get busy with this beauty..... > >see ya, > >Jon k.well, it's because i live outside the eu, and i deduct 17%....think the original price was 2500. i saved over 1000 DM from buying it here in Norway!! >2190,- DM for virusb ??? > >no ... can't believe it...even musicexplorer - know for low prices - sell it for 2700,- !!! >the virus b - not the kb ! > >ciao >nico >maybe we can work an Access Brain Modem to connect to the Virus Input or route through a couple hamsters in sequence ; ) This "hamster" thread still lives.......you are guys are absolutely killing me!! Too funny, cris----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 1:12 PM Subject: Unstableness ??? >I just recogniced that my lovely drums i programed on the virus b , are only playing >stable when there is no other part playing in multisingle mode . Unfortunately it is very >obvious :( >As soon there are more part playing the beat does play with extremely various punch .I have set phase init to on . Is it possible that other parts without phaseinit do reset the one with it??? Maybe a bug , maybe not .... dont know , anyone else ??? > >Oli > >Yes, I have experienced this! I had programmed a kind of resonant ping snare sound that was working fine until I started multitracking. A bit of experimentation seemed to suggest that it was fine until I had added the fourth different sound into the mix, which was MoogBass3. It was always this sound that messed it up, having tried unmuting tracks in different orders. I haven't worked on the track since, but I might go back and try and narrow it down further. Perhaps it's due to sounds with high Punch Intensity and very fast attack being played simultaneously? I'll let you know if get anywhere. Ben.I've been playing with the Vocoder section on my Virus b ( I think it's the same as the original Virus' vocoder...) Although I managed to create some "interesting" sounds, it all seemed sort of hit or miss.... I applied my understanding of the carrier vs. modulator and my results were consistently unpredictable....I especially had trouble using external inputs.. It seemed difficult to get a decent level coming through the outputs...and I never managed to get that classic vocoder sound of the 80's (spacey voice pad)... Does anyone really have a handle on this that might be able to enlighten me a little more than the manual does? I would like to be able to use the vocoder with controlled and predictable results (sometimes...) ThanksGreat idea to make a trance/techno soundset. I would also like some strings like jon the dentist uses, and a few good hoover sounds would be great too From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: Access Subject: Sounds Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:05:41 +0100 Hi, As Rob already stated in one of his previous mails, I'm working on a soundset. Still a long way to go, but eventually I hope to be able to offer a nice trance/techno set. So, if anyone has special requests, now is the time! Any types of sounds, sounds that you know from existing records etc... I'm open for ideas. I have many sounds already, but it'd be nice to hear what people actually want. Maybe it's better to send it to me privately as it might be a little too off topic for this list. I have some very concrete questions as well: 1) Do you want the sounds to be sorted by type? (eg basses together etc) 2) Do you want percussion sounds and efx? I'm just asking because I hardly use any percussion or efx from synths myself and therefore I don't know whether I should add many percussion sounds. The soundset will focus on useful sounds that fit well in the mix. Greetings, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Please add me to your list for when you are ready to release the sound set. Thanks, Lukas >-----Original Message----- >From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck [mailto:joeri@belway.com] Sent: Monday, 21 February 2000 12:06 >To: Access >Subject: Sounds > > >Hi, > >As Rob already stated in one of his previous mails, I'm working on a soundset. Still a long way to go, but eventually I hope to be able to offer a nice trance/techno set. > >So, if anyone has special requests, now is the time! Any types of sounds, sounds that you know from existing records etc... I'm open for ideas. I have many sounds already, but it'd be nice to hear what people actually want. Maybe it's better to send it to me privately as it might be a little too off topic for this list. I have some very concrete questions as well: >1) Do you want the sounds to be sorted by type? (eg basses together etc) > >2) Do you want percussion sounds and efx? I'm just asking because I hardly use any percussion or efx from synths myself and therefore I don't know whether I should add many percussion sounds. > >The soundset will focus on useful sounds that fit well in the mix. > >Greetings, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > >http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays > I would like to hear one sound... AN AIRRAID sound... I have been looking for a fairely clean airraid sound (even tried some samples) without much joy... cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: Lukas Svoboda To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 07:23 am Subject: RE: Sounds >Please add me to your list for when you are ready to release the sound set. > >Thanks, >Lukas > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck [mailto:joeri@belway.com] Sent: Monday, 21 February 2000 12:06 >>To: Access >>Subject: Sounds >> >> >>Hi, >> >>As Rob already stated in one of his previous mails, I'm working on a soundset. Still a long way to go, but eventually I hope to be able to offer a nice trance/techno set. >> >>So, if anyone has special requests, now is the time! Any types of sounds, sounds that you know from existing records etc... I'm open for ideas. I have many sounds already, but it'd be nice to hear what people actually want. Maybe it's better to send it to me privately as it might be a little too off topic for this list. I have some very concrete questions as well: >>1) Do you want the sounds to be sorted by type? (eg basses together etc) >> >>2) Do you want percussion sounds and efx? I'm just asking because I hardly use any percussion or efx from synths myself and therefore I don't know whether I should add many percussion sounds. >> >>The soundset will focus on useful sounds that fit well in the mix. >> >>Greetings, >>Joeri >>-- >>Joeri Vankeirsbilck >>joeri@belway.com >> >>List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM >> >>http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays >> hi man :) ummm where can we take those soundset exactly? thanks :) Oliver a Žcrit : >Hey all , > >I want to thank Howard for his soundset : it contains some awesome sounds . >People , download it . I sent Christoph a soundbank for the new B version recently but >when i heard Howards patches i felt to take it back and put it into trash : ( >Anyway have fun > >OliHey all , I want to thank Howard for his soundset : it contains some awesome sounds . People , download it . I sent Christoph a soundbank for the new B version recently but when i heard Howards patches i felt to take it back and put it into trash : ( Anyway have fun OliOk, I have tried myself, and here you are, "infectors" I have one trax (MP3) to show you EXACTLY the strenth of the VOCODER on the VIRUS. AND IS IT A TRAX!!!! If you go to: www.filesanywhere.com username: c7handouts password: c7c7 You will get a trax called ANALOGUE GOD. Have a listen. From South Africa I uploaded the file in a record 11minutes, so for any of you out there, it should not take that long to DL. (It is in the INBOX) Enjoy and PLEASE, some feedback... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 01:04 am Subject: Re: Vocoder >In einer eMail vom 21.02.00 22:39:22 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>It seemed difficult to get a decent level coming through the outputs...and >>I never managed to get that classic vocoder sound of the 80's (spacey >voice >>pad)... > >Did you try the vocoder presets D 100 ...D 127 ? It's a good base for tweaking the knobs. > >-ChristophI think Access will put it up on their site soon . RŽmi Tanguay schrieb: >hi man :) >ummm where can we take those soundset exactly? thanks :) > >Oliver a Žcrit : > >>Hey all , >> >>I want to thank Howard for his soundset : it contains some awesome sounds . >>People , download it . I sent Christoph a soundbank for the new B version recently but >>when i heard Howards patches i felt to take it back and put it into trash : ( >>Anyway have fun >> >>OliHi How much was the shipping ? And what shipping service was it ? I am eager to by Virus B too - cause here in Moscow they are around 1600$ ! And when I mailed Musiciansgear they answered shipping is 200DM and didn't say what shipping company it was ... Thanx "Jon k." wrote: >well, it's because i live outside the eu, and i deduct 17%....think the original price was 2500. i saved over 1000 DM from buying it here in Norway!! > >>2190,- DM for virusb ??? >> >>no ... can't believe it...even musicexplorer - know for low prices - sell it for 2700,- !!! >>the virus b - not the kb ! >> >>ciao >>nico Ops , that was meant to be personal RayMaxer wrote: >Hi >How much was the shipping ? >And what shipping service was it ? >I am eager to by Virus B too - cause here in Moscow they are around 1600$ ! And when I mailed Musiciansgear they answered shipping is 200DM and didn't say what shipping company it was ... >Thanx > >"Jon k." wrote: > >>well, it's because i live outside the eu, and i deduct 17%....think the original price was 2500. i saved over 1000 DM from buying it here in Norway!! >> >>>2190,- DM for virusb ??? >>> >>>no ... can't believe it...even musicexplorer - know for low prices - sell it for 2700,- !!! >>>the virus b - not the kb ! >>> >>>ciao >>>nico try www.novamusik.com talk to Tony dan -----Original Message----- From: RayMaxer [mailto:digil@dialup.ptt.ru] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:11 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SV: SV: Buying Virusb online Hi How much was the shipping ? And what shipping service was it ? I am eager to by Virus B too - cause here in Moscow they are around 1600$ ! And when I mailed Musiciansgear they answered shipping is 200DM and didn't say what shipping company it was ... Thanx "Jon k." wrote: >well, it's because i live outside the eu, and i deduct 17%....think the original price was 2500. i saved over 1000 DM from buying it here in Norway!! > >>2190,- DM for virusb ??? >> >>no ... can't believe it...even musicexplorer - know for low prices - sell it for 2700,- !!! >>the virus b - not the kb ! >> >>ciao >>nico hello all, I'm new to this newsgroup, so forgive me if I post this incorrectly. I am using the virus b with software version 3.0. I am trying to send the output of the arpeggiator out as individual notes to cubase. When I set the virus to do this, I get a few notes of the arpeggio, then it stops, or just repeats one note (even if it is set to arpeggiate over a few octaves). Is this a bug in the OS, or am I doing something incorrectly? Thanks in advance! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com(I'm not a virus owner, but...) I think you'd get these symptoms with most units if Cubase were set to allow MIDI thru - you'd create a feedback loop that would use all you available notes. The result either one note constantly re-triggering or after a few seconds some MIDI buffer would fill-up and there would be a single sustaining note or silence. It's on one of the MIDI set-up or options menu items - see if there is a MIDI through checkbox with a cross in it. If there is uncheck it and try again. Just an idea - apologies if you've already thought of it, Rich -----Original Message----- From: Frie D'Gaulle [mailto:cortez23@yahoo.com] Sent: 22 February 2000 16:39 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Arpeggiator hello all, I'm new to this newsgroup, so forgive me if I post this incorrectly. I am using the virus b with software version 3.0. I am trying to send the output of the arpeggiator out as individual notes to cubase. When I set the virus to do this, I get a few notes of the arpeggio, then it stops, or just repeats one note (even if it is set to arpeggiate over a few octaves). Is this a bug in the OS, or am I doing something incorrectly? Thanks in advance! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comThat's worth checking out, but cubase's midi thru causes other problems with my gear, so I think I have it switched off. It IS something I hadn't considered. Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comOn Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:38:55 -0800 (PST), "Frie D'Gaulle" wrote: >arpeggiator out as individual notes to cubase. When I set the virus to do this, I get a few notes of the arpeggio, then it stops, or just repeats one note (even if it is set to arpeggiate over a few octaves). Is this a bug in the OS, or am I doing something incorrectly? Thanks in advance! The Virus has some quirks in this area - if you are using it in this way (as I do), you must turn Local on/off depending on whether you are arpeggiating the internal synths or other synths using the Thru function of the sequencer. I personally would prefer to leave Local off all the time and be able to arpeggiate external or internal modules in the same way but, well, it doesn't happen. I've grovelled to Christoph to change it and maybe he will... I also hope he'll alter Local Off to support the standard MIDI controller for this. ;-) Sometimes I find that flipping ArpeggioSend off then on again gets it working, almost as if it forgot it was supposed to send them. Mostly I send arpeggios from my XP-80 which works as I'd expect (although the cursed thing doesn't have a "hold" function). Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukHello. Just wondering - is the ringmod in the Virus b able to use one of the external inputs as a modulator and the other external input as a carrier? Or, can it only use one of the external inputs as a modulator, and the carrier has to come from the Virus? Thanks. -J.R.Great Idea!! And yes, group the sounds, percussion maybe not, but effects yes. I would really like some BT stabs, like those on Flaming June or Godspeed. thanks, Jon k. >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck [mailto:joeri@belway.com] Sent: Monday, 21 February 2000 12:06 >>>To: Access >>>Subject: Sounds >>> >>> >>>Hi, >>> >>>As Rob already stated in one of his previous mails, I'm working on a soundset. Still a long way to go, but eventually I hope to be able to offer a nice trance/techno set. >>> >>>So, if anyone has special requests, now is the time! Any types of sounds, sounds that you know from existing records etc... I'm open for ideas. I have many sounds already, but it'd be nice to hear what people actually want. Maybe it's better to send it to me privately as it might be a little too off topic for this list. I have some very concrete questions as well: >>>1) Do you want the sounds to be sorted by type? (eg basses together etc) >>> >>>2) Do you want percussion sounds and efx? I'm just asking because I hardly use any percussion or efx from synths myself and therefore I don't know whether I should add many percussion sounds. >>> >>>The soundset will focus on useful sounds that fit well in the mix. >>> >>>Greetings, >>>Joeri >>>-- >>>Joeri Vankeirsbilck >>>joeri@belway.com >>> >>>List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM >>> >>>http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays >>> >>> Somewhat off-topic here but what do people use for their MP3 compression? I haven't been especially happy with the one's I've used so far (including the Sound Forge module) since I can detect some nasty artifacts. I was recommended one (can't remember the name - Andromeda or something like that) but it cost about $270 which sounds pretty outrageous. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dennis www.mp3.com/subgeniusI've used Media Cleaner Pro 4 with good results. The program is huge not to mention overkill just for converting to MP3. But I haven't heard any artifacts in tracks that I've encoded __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comWhere are your sounds Oliver ? you could take the best from your set and upload them as singles to my site, The Virus Patchpoint. ( http://virus.k29.nu ) Or you could send them to me, so i could do it for you. regards, John Machielsen Oliver wrote: >I think Access will put it up on their site soon . > >RŽmi Tanguay schrieb: > >>hi man :) >>ummm where can we take those soundset exactly? thanks :) >> >>Oliver a Žcrit : >> >>>Hey all , >>> >>>I want to thank Howard for his soundset : it contains some awesome sounds . >>>People , download it . I sent Christoph a soundbank for the new B version recently but >>>when i heard Howards patches i felt to take it back and put it into trash : ( >>>Anyway have fun >>> >>>OliOn Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:04:05 EST, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >Paul, you are talking about the kb. The Virus b does not have Local Off. Aye, true enough. ;-} >And how can the Virus b and kb prevent the reception of notes coming thru the sequencer? It is a case of when local is OFF, the synth should behave like a seperate module - transmission and reception being seperated. In synths which began life as keyboards, their arpeggiators are (usually) part of the control system not the voice structure. Example: when local is OFF, Synth X sends arpeggio notes via its MIDI out to whichever track you select on your sequencer. If this track is connected back to Synth X, it triggers the synth engine exactly the same as it would for Synth Y - you don't have to do anything. On the Virus, this doesn't happen - you have to juggle local on/off to trigger arpeggios on internal/external synths depending on the track you select on your sequencer. I explained that really badly I think. Anyone understand/care? N.B. The Microwave XTk did this too prior to version 2.33 but it's sorted now so maybe the Virus kb could behave this way? And, of course, the XT/Virus's method has some advantages, not least that arpeggios are stored with patches - something my Prophecy couldn't do. It's no big thing though so don't fret it... ;-) Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.uk>Simple reason: The Virus receives those individual notes back into its >arpeggiator. This is not what you wanted. > >-Christoph > I'm sorry Cristoph, this may be simple, but how can I record the individual note of the arpeggio into a sequencer? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comI use a little freeware called rJPM (I think...) It is the fastest and on top of it, if you want you can run 100 of them in parrallel. It's kernal is very small, but extreamly fast. I am not THAT worried about MP3's compression, because MP3's is like sending someone a tape of the best digitally sampled music. You know what tape is like - it makes me kringe!!! hope that was of help cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 23:27 pm Subject: OT: MP3 Compressors > >Somewhat off-topic here but what do people use for their MP3 compression? I haven't been especially happy with the one's I've used >so far (including the Sound Forge module) since I can detect some nasty artifacts. I was recommended one (can't remember the name - Andromeda or something like that) but it cost about $270 which sounds pretty outrageous. > >Any recommendations? > >Thanks, > >Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgenius On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:27:32 -0800, dennis_schissler@hp.com wrote: > >Somewhat off-topic here but what do people use for their MP3 compression? I haven't been especially happy with the one's I've used so far (including the Sound Forge module) since I can detect some nasty artifacts. I can approve to your artefact experience. Most of the free or cheap encoders use the old public Fraunhofer code. This code was only released for demonstration purpose. Whenever you hear someone complainig about audible flaws with 128KBit/s mp3's it's very probably due to this old code. I just got myself a Pontis MP3-Player. They packed it with a CD containing an encoder. What shall I say? It's some old buggy code. No quality. I can recommend Adioactive Production Studio. You can encode in either quick mode or high quality mode. Even quick mode is far ahead of the public Fraunhofer code. flpOn Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Paul Nagle wrote: >send arpeggios from my XP-80 which works as I'd expect (although the cursed thing doesn't have a "hold" function). A friend of mine uses a simple foot pedal to control arp hold on the XP. Very useful. Regards, - janne kaipainen - jatka@cc.jyu.fiHi Dennis. dennis_schissler@hp.com schrieb: > > >Somewhat off-topic here but what do people use for their MP3 compression? I haven't been especially happy with the one's I've used so far (including the Sound Forge module) since I can detect some nasty artifacts. I was recommended one (can't remember the name - Andromeda or something like that) but it cost about $270 which sounds pretty outrageous. > >Any recommendations? > Where do the artifacts come from? Did u compress a *.wav file or did u rip from your CD-drive using the codec without creating a *.wav file? I never had any problems creating an MP3 file from *.wav data, but ripping and compressing simultaniously sometimes caused problems. There is something called Radium-codecs u may find on warez sites. They are said to be improved high-quality Fraunhofer-codecs. I«ve heard that they go up to 320 KBps. But I can«t recommend using or even downloading them, because it«s illegal to use licensend software without paying 4 it. I just want to say: I«ve heard that there shall be good codecs. But - as I said - don«t download them! ;-) Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://Tao7.tripod.com My music page at BeSonic (with RealAudio and MP3-samples): http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.htmlWhilst in "grid" recording mode on the rm1x is it possible to hear all 16 midi channels being played back while one is being recorded...... Or is the track being recorded the the only one played back ?> >Paul, we are talking about two different things. On the keyboard, agreed. But by the same logic, the Virus b should not be able to send arpeggiator notes, since it has no keyboard or control unit. It's made to *receive* notes >from the midi in and arpeggiate them. > >-Christoph WOOOOOOOOOW - Stop the bus!!! I'll smack you silly if you take the ARP off the VIRUS-b . I think that the ARP is a very important function on the VIRUS-b (AND I AM STILL WANTING AN EDITABLE FUNCTION!!!). Granted, the ARP is 'currently' not everyone's cup-o-tea, but I beleave with a bit of a push-&-'n-shuv we will get ACCESS (And Christoph) to implement further ARP structures within the VIRUS-b. The ARP function is a real "space-saver' for me... I am busy writing a set and I am using an A3000 as a playback unit. If I had to still use every-single-note to address the VIRUS-b, I would have run out of SEQUENCER space long ago!!! I do understand where the writer is coming from, though. If you have a look at the JP8080 (Perfect EXAMPLE!) you will see that this synth has a second MIDI-IN. This is specifically for KEYBOARDMIDI data. What the second midi in does is translates single notes to ARP notes. The normal MIDI-IN only plays single notes. Maybe ACCESS should 'steal' and idea and put a second MIDI-IN into the VIRUS-b... :) cyber7 (Aubrey)>From my experience it is not possible to hear the other 15 tracks. I think other people will verify this as well. What do you use grid for? If for drums and percussion you can always try the step recording mode.Hey all, I'm afraid I'm going to have to join in on the the whining about the Virus' arpeggiator. User patterns, and step-editing are a MUST for this machine! Since I have played extensively on both the Waldorf Q, and XT/2...I feel that more options in arpeggio-land are being screamed for by the unit itself. I still like this machine better than both of the Waldorf flagships, but they kick the poop out of the VB's arp! Even the Pulse has some different typs of patterns that can break the mold of the norm. Not to complain too much, but this would help to fulfill the "dream-features" list, which has already been mostly taken care of by the realease of the Virus B/KB. Stay infected! Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Howard, your 88HS sounds did impress me very much! And [ PstyreneHS ] is really a very funny sound :)) Really many ingenious sounds! Rob Papen--- brooks rongstad wrote: >Hey all, >I'm afraid I'm going to have to join in on the the whining about the Virus' >arpeggiator. User patterns, and step-editing are a MUST for this machine! >Since I have played extensively on both the Waldorf Q, and XT/2...I feel >that more options in arpeggio-land are being screamed for by the unit >itself. I still like this machine better than both of the Waldorf flagships, >but they kick the poop out of the VB's arp! Even the Pulse has some >different typs of patterns that can break the mold of the norm. >Not to complain too much, but this would help to fulfill the >"dream-features" list, which has already been mostly taken care of by the >realease of the Virus B/KB. >Stay infected! >Brooks > ______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at >http://www.hotmail.com > > Whoa, I wasn't whining. Anyway, though I didn't understand Christoph's awnser yesterday, he was absolutely correct. My Virus was both sending AND recieving the Arpeggiator data, which was causing overrun problems. After I disabled the midi loop in my patchbay, the problem went away. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com--- brooks rongstad wrote: >Hey all, >I'm afraid I'm going to have to join in on the the whining about the Virus' >arpeggiator. User patterns, and step-editing are a MUST for this machine! >Since I have played extensively on both the Waldorf Q, and XT/2...I feel >that more options in arpeggio-land are being screamed for by the unit >itself. I still like this machine better than both of the Waldorf flagships, >but they kick the poop out of the VB's arp! Even the Pulse has some >different typs of patterns that can break the mold of the norm. >Not to complain too much, but this would help to fulfill the >"dream-features" list, which has already been mostly taken care of by the >realease of the Virus B/KB. >Stay infected! >Brooks > ______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at >http://www.hotmail.com > > Oh BTW, thanks for everyone's help! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comSorry i missed this ... where are howard's sounds for download ?? thanx dan>Howard, your 88HS sounds did impress me very much! And [ PstyreneHS ] is really a very funny sound :)) Really many ingenious sounds! >Rob Papen Thanks again for the tulips, Rob! :-) BTW: The only reason I included the IMO least interesting sound, "Marimba", was how the delay was done (try turning down the SUB OSC level). A waste of "ingenuity" on that sound, but maybe someone can come up with a good use for the idea.Hallo everyone I would appreciate if you could tell me how many semitones should be changed to get the tuning at A=441Hz. Thanks Alex|BTW: The only reason I included the IMO least interesting sound, "Marimba", |was how the delay was done (try turning down the SUB OSC level). A waste of |"ingenuity" on that sound, but maybe someone can come up with a good use for |the idea. This Marimba is great, I have it as preset in my Infection. It sounds a bit like that famous Korg M1 sound. Also [ Biroid HS ] I had to play serveral times because I did not believe it was the Virus...I did power off all other synths to be sure... :) Rob | |>This Marimba is great, I have it as preset in my Infection. It sounds a bit like that famous Korg M1 sound. Preset? You don't mean in bank C or D, do you? I'm waiting eagerly for this option (not to mention a bugfix for that LFO3 triangle problem in 2.52 - Christoph?). >Also [ Biroid HS ] I had to play serveral times because I did not believe it was the Virus...I did power off all other synths to be sure... :) Rob I would call it a theatre organ sound, but I guess it will be used in Dance/Trance for that typical fast disco-hihat-ersatz thing - you know what I mean - "takataaa, takataaa..." BTW: Both oscillators are set to wave 30 (full organ) here. Wave 14 is also good for hollow organ-type sounds.unsubscribe Enofinkel@aol.com wrote: Howard mentions wave 30 and 40 below, with a description... I have downloaded the graphic representations of the available wave forms from K9 site (I think...). Is there any available descriptive for these wave forms, or do I have to listen to each one and come up with my own...just wondering...it would be a nice reference to quickly grab the appropriate waveform without memorizing them all. -----Original Message----- From: Howard Scarr [SMTP:hscarr@csi.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 4:28 PM To: Access list Subject: Marimbas, organs >This Marimba is great, I have it as preset in my Infection. It sounds a bit like that famous Korg M1 sound. Preset? You don't mean in bank C or D, do you? I'm waiting eagerly for this option (not to mention a bugfix for that LFO3 triangle problem in 2.52 - Christoph?). >Also [ Biroid HS ] I had to play serveral times because I did not believe it was the Virus...I did power off all other synths to be sure... :) Rob I would call it a theatre organ sound, but I guess it will be used in Dance/Trance for that typical fast disco-hihat-ersatz thing - you know what I mean - "takataaa, takataaa..." BTW: Both oscillators are set to wave 30 (full organ) here. Wave 14 is also good for hollow organ-type sounds.There are still some problems with the the ezmlm program, I'm unable to unsubsribe this Emailadres from this list. Please Jay help! greetings, StevenGreetings, Well sure enough, I was handling a Virus, and tickle my T-Cells, I have been infected! Okay, you have heard that a billion times before eh? Ya so anyhoo, I was going to buy a Novation SuperNova, after researching lots of VA synths on the Internet (and a few in stores). However, it was when I tested the Virus B and the SuperNova side by side that I was blown away by the little red biohazard. The sounds screamed out to me like a demon on torture rack, whilst the SuperNova failed to raise my blood pressure appreciably. Not to mention of course, the Virus B is compact, cheaper, and even fits nicely on my desktop (where I wanted it). The last thing I wanted was a jillion 'turn me' knobs on a rack, since I am afraid my arm would go limp from twiddling myself silly (er that sounds sorta bad...hehe). So nice to meet you all! I have a question, if you don't mind. THo I have figured out to sequence with Cakewalk with the Virus B in Multi-Single Mode, I have not figured out how to send knob infor from the Virus BACK to Cakewalk. In other words, (you probably already know what I mean), I need to be able to twiddle the Virus knobs and have Cakewalk record those actions, so that playback reflects the knob info. How do I do this? How would I wire that all up? Another question...anyone use the vocoder? If I want to put vocals thru that for recording into Cake, how would I do this? I have a Mackie Mixer, would I just treat the Virus as an FX box with respect to the Vocoder and or FX? Any help is much appreciated! Thanks.. Dan The BurkeDan the MAN! Congratz on the purchase. It took me almost 3 years to make up my own mind, but never REALY knew what this beast was capable of doin'. Some tips on Cakewalk - http://go.to/cyber7 - You will find a Cakewalk INS file, a working panel and a very nice template to use with your VIRUS-b. (I hope it is a b, but it will also be compatable with the a). To hear what the VOCODER sounds like - http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 and look for "ANALOGUE GOD". To record knob-movements, first make sure that you have midi-in and -out pugged in, then set the VIRUS-b to only respond on MIDI (Not Knowb and Midi events!) events. Then start your recording and infect away!!! Easy as that. Hope that helped. cyber7 (Aubrey) Cape Town South Africa >Greetings, > >Well sure enough, I was handling a Virus, and tickle my T-Cells, I have been >infected! Okay, you have heard that a billion times before eh? > >Ya so anyhoo, I was going to buy a Novation SuperNova, after researching lots of VA synths on the Internet (and a few in stores). However, it was when I tested the Virus B and the SuperNova side by side that I was blown away by the little red biohazard. The sounds screamed out to me like a demon >on torture rack, whilst the SuperNova failed to raise my blood pressure appreciably. Not to mention of course, the Virus B is compact, cheaper, and >even fits nicely on my desktop (where I wanted it). The last thing I wanted >was a jillion 'turn me' knobs on a rack, since I am afraid my arm would go limp from twiddling myself silly (er that sounds sorta bad...hehe). > >So nice to meet you all! > >I have a question, if you don't mind. THo I have figured out to sequence with Cakewalk with the Virus B in Multi-Single Mode, I have not figured out >how to send knob infor from the Virus BACK to Cakewalk. In other words, (you >probably already know what I mean), I need to be able to twiddle the Virus knobs and have Cakewalk record those actions, so that playback reflects the >knob info. > >How do I do this? How would I wire that all up? > >Another question...anyone use the vocoder? If I want to put vocals thru that >for recording into Cake, how would I do this? I have a Mackie Mixer, would I >just treat the Virus as an FX box with respect to the Vocoder and or FX? > >Any help is much appreciated! > >Thanks.. > >Dan The Burke > > > >Please Jay help! I'll second that - I'm still getting doubles.hi all.... iÇm still selling my virus a... if anyone is intersted plz mail me directly... cheerz guys.. t@nke Funny you mention the Supernova.....now more than ever the VA scene has enough contenders to make it a tough scene. It seems like a day doesn't go by that someone doesn;t post a 'which should I buy' in the analog section of the gas station. Basically I had come down to this assumption. Nord Lead II Rack: While having that unique 'Nord' sound the sonic spectrum was very limited. The display was nothing short of a joke...and indeed the tweakability seemed seriously lacking. Supernova: Definitely capeable of some serious sounds, but merely analog with a impressive effects per part....at quite the cost. I agree with you Dan that the interface is hideous, I can't imagine rackmounting the thing and then trying to open filters etc at a 90 degree angle. Nova: Was the closest contender, played with one for a while and definitely a powerfull little box. But again, incabeable of that 'ballsy' sound I knew I wanted but couldn;t find. Sirius or Polymorph: I own a 309 and I must say that Quasimidi should be commended on the sound capeabilities of their unit. But seriously, appart from some extra parts and programeability....I don;t think you miss out that much between the $250 raveolution (if you score second hand) and the bigger brothers. FR_777: I know it's not VA....but it was an amazingly accurate 303 clone with some sersiously warped soundscapes. The nice thing about real analog is the unpredictability. However, as an all round machine.....the limitations of rebuilding 'old' technology becomes very apparent. Electribe EA-1: A smashing little unit for the price, but like comparing Yugos to Ferarris Microwave XT: Beautiful looking machine, Waldorf certainly have the name....but in playing with this machine the instant glee over 'whacked' sounds it created became annoyance as I couldn't easily get it to just play some raw analog lines. I'm sure for someone with good synth programming abilities this would be a nice addition....but thats not my interest. I am assuming others are finding this too because the things are appearing more and more in classified sections. JP8000\JP8080: While the former was certainly a welcome addition to the scene a few years ago....in the current day and age the 8080 doesn't hold a candle to the competition. I hated every minuted of playing this synth. Another box that would be a nightmare in a rack. AN1X: I like these machines, really capeable of some deep scapes. Not so great at the raw lines or gutsy analog....but hell, they were $499 a year or so ago in the blowout so I bought one anyway. Makes a great controller, with analog abilities built in....I guess thats the way I look at it. Virus B: The size. The quality of the build. The fact that access listen to their users and utilize the web in a way that lets you know they are music fans as much as instrument producers. What all of you, and ever other owner sais about the thing. The fact that they are a rarity in classified sections (unless you find people ditching their As for the newer model) Mostly, that experience playing it in the store. One of those moments were you hate the fact you brought your girlfriend that day and she's giving you those "can we leave now ' eyes. I coulda played it for hours. It had that sound I have always wanted. Viva la Virus. Nice to join you all, the list has a reputation that precedes it. PHi Phlanno! Your rundown of all the synths was awesome, and right on the mark! I didn't check into some of the synths you mentioned, but did thoroughly investigate every new VA synth out there, and yes, I even checked out the Yamaha AN1X! I think you could probably still get those pretty cheap, if someone still has some in stock. The Nord was too expensive for me, not enough polyphony, the Waldorf Q is too expensive, the JP 8000 lack polyphony and are too bulky, the SuperNova is too expensive and I don't want to twiddle knobs on a rack, plus it is too bulky and didn't sound as good as the Virus. The Virus is precisely what I wanted...small enough to fit next to me on a desk, so I can gain intimate knowledge of it's mystical powers ;) , and it sounds amazing...the polyphony is great with OS3, in addition to the other kewl features, and I love the idea of having a vocoder now! I'm very happy...I don't know if I got a killer deal or not, seems I probably paid a little higher than average at $1350 out the doot (US dollars). Seems like the prices went up lately. Also, how do I hook up the Vocoder with a Mackie 24-4 mixer? I'd love to be able to record, using the vocoder, into Cakewalk. Thanks! Dan The Burke>Also, how do I hook up the Vocoder with a Mackie 24-4 mixer? I'd love to be able to record, using the vocoder, into Cakewalk. welcome, Dan! As (un)official evangelist of all things alternative with the Virus (external inputs, vocoder, internal AUX busses), I'll answer your question. I've had excellent results using my Virus to process output from my mixer. If you want to set it up on FX bus 4, patch the mixer's FX4 Send to the Virus input. Then you can just dial in exactly how much of a channel to send to the Virus (and even have it process a submix). You may want to set your FX Bus to "Pre-Fader" (there should be a switch) so you can mute the mixer channel the Virus is processing to get a completely wet mix. Be careful with feedback loops in this case, becuase if you send the Virus output back to the input, you can get some startling (sometimes cool) noises. Another thing I like to do with the Vocoder is to process output from my sampler (drum loops and such). I have an Akai with 8 individual outs, so I patch outputs 7 & 8 from the sampler directly to the inputs of the Virus. This works very well. Hooking a guitar or mic directly into the Virus won't work so well -- the signal isn't strong enough. So you're right in using your mixer. Let me know how it goes zsAt 12:54 PM 02/24/2000 +0100, you wrote: >Please Jay help! I'll second that - I'm still getting doubles. We're working on it as I type... there's a lot to be done, though, as I am moving the TekLab domain to a brand new machine this weekend... please stay tuned. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html Will this include fixing the problem multiple people have with responses from a german internet providers email daemon software program about an email error ? wolfhansse or sometihng from mail@provi.de or whatelse. i get these error messages each time i post to the list...haha. oh. no. its not funny :( regards, John Machielsen Jay Vaughan wrote: >At 12:54 PM 02/24/2000 +0100, you wrote: >>>Please Jay help! >>I'll second that - I'm still getting doubles. > >We're working on it as I type... there's a lot to be done, though, as I am moving the TekLab domain to a brand new machine this weekend... please stay tuned. > >j. > >-- >Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com >TekLab | http://www.teklab.com >{UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} >[NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.htmlAt 12:16 AM 02/25/2000 +0100, you wrote: Will this include fixing the problem multiple people have with responses from a german internet providers email daemon software program about an email error ? wolfhansse or sometihng from mail@provi.de or whatelse. i get these error messages each time i post to the list...haha. oh. no. its not funny :( Yes. The new mailing list software will automatically handle these itself... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html hi my name is michael geronsin and i work at a studio here in minnapolis.. i use a virus a.. as well as numerous other synths: trinity, kurzweil, roland, etc.. my 2nd cd is coming out in march and i was wondering if i could send it to any one of you. why am i doing this? i'll tell you why.. i don't have a band and i don't play shows so i just want to get my music around to people who appreciate it. the cd consits of 11 of my tracks along with 6 other bands.. my style is a mix of many influences.. i can hear some Enigma and some Beatles and Reznor type influences in it.. of course i use the virus on most of the songs. it's been explained as deep emotional music by critics and radio stations.. i play all the instruments myself.. drums guitar bass vox synths perc and all noises.. if you are interested please email me.. i'll pay for shipping for US residents.. and maybe for other countries.. depends how much money i have left :) thanks.. mike geronsin sonic edge productions...I would love to hear a cd with some good virus on it. Christopher Jones. 1208 SE Boise st Portland, OR 97202 if you send me your address I could send you a old cd of mine that is some virus influenced electronica. chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: would you like my new cd? >hi my name is michael geronsin and i work at a studio here in minnapolis.. i use a virus a.. as well as numerous other synths: trinity, kurzweil, roland, etc.. my 2nd cd is coming out in march and i was wondering if i could send it to any one of you. why am i doing this? i'll tell you why.. >i don't have a band and i don't play shows so i just want to get my music around to people who appreciate it. the cd consits of 11 of my tracks along >with 6 other bands.. my style is a mix of many influences.. i can hear some >Enigma and some Beatles and Reznor type influences in it.. of course i use >the virus on most of the songs. it's been explained as deep emotional music >by critics and radio stations.. i play all the instruments myself.. drums guitar bass vox synths perc and all noises.. if you are interested please email me.. i'll pay for shipping for US residents.. and maybe for other countries.. depends how much money i have left :) thanks.. mike geronsin sonic edge productions...thanks chris.. i'll get you a cd.. i'd love to hear your music also.. sinerely mikeHi Michael, Saw your most generous offer on the Virus list and would like to request a CD. Please at least let me know what shipping will run and I'll pop a check into the mail. Please mail to: Michael Azevedo 617 Cleveland Street Davis, CA 95616 Thank you, Mike * NoteIt's World of MIDI * A place for Six-Trak, Prophet 600 and FZ users E-Mail: NoteIt@Juno.com * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2163 * ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.About the INS file. There IS a Cakewalk INS file on the page aswell. It does take the names as they appear in the original release. Have a look... To change the way that your knobs work, you have to go into the SYSTEM menu. The PARAMETER is MIDI PANEL and the options you have is (INTERNAL, INT+MIDI, MIDI). How this works is, if your MIDI-OUT is plugged into a sequencer (PC or standalown) and you set to INTERNAL, then NO knob movements gets sent to the MIDI-OUT and the VIRUS reacts to knob movements. If it is set to INT+MIDI, then the VIRUS not only react to knob movements, but also to MIDI-IN events. If it is set to MIDI, the VIRUS only reacts to (Thats right - I think you got it:) ) events on your MIDI-IN (Say from Cakewalk) NOTE: it does send MIDI information OUT in this mode, but does not react to it directly. So, IF you want to record MIDI events into Cakewalk, set your VIRUS to MIDI, make sure that you are in Cakewalk on the right PORT and CHANNEL and START INFECTING!!! cheers cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan The Burke To: Aubrey Kloppers Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 00:42 am Subject: Re: Newbie joins the Ward >>Dan the MAN! >> >>Congratz on the purchase. It took me almost 3 years to make up my own >mind, >>but never REALY knew what this beast was capable of doin'. > >Hi Aubrey! > >Yeah I spent a LOT of time doing research on various VA synths, memorizing their polyphony and other crucial stats. The first one I played was the JP 8000, and while that settled the fact that I wanted VA, I was not happy with >the polyphony or the huge size of the keyboard (which has to fit with my computer, wacom tablet, mouse, and other things on my Omnirax desk). > >I was all settled in on the SuperNova, even went down to buy it, but had a horrible splitting headache and perhaps wasn't thinking clearly..I played with the thing, no Virus on hand to demo at the time, and just was not that >impressed. I also could not get over the rack mount with knobs thing and the >price was too high. > >I must commend Novation on an excellent website and excellent demos tho, that sold me as much as anything else...until....I played the Virus! Not to >be redundant, but the Virus B sold me from the first few sounds!! > >Guess what else, I did not even know about or play Banks B, C and D!! HAHAHA...I bought the Virus only after playing Bank A. Silly me, I had hear >there were 512 programs, but did not even think of it in the store for some >reason. HA! When I got home, I had all these sounds, and WOOP I was the happiest lil camper this side of the biolab! > >>Some tips on Cakewalk - http://go.to/cyber7 - You will find a Cakewalk INS >>file, a working panel and a very nice template to use with your VIRUS-b. >(I >>hope it is a b, but it will also be compatable with the a). > >Thanks man, you are a veritable treasure trove of info!! I was wondering about the INS files...I hate seeing general MIDI names for my Viral patches. >;) > >>To hear what the VOCODER sounds like - http://www.mp3.com/cyber7 and look >>for "ANALOGUE GOD". > >Downloading it! You can hear my future Viral bioattacks at www.mp3.com/NukleoN as well...tho as of now the songs are comprised of an MKS-50, an O1WR, and cool soundfonts by Emu and Ian Wilson (Another cool South African!). Soon I will upload some Virus stuff! You can bet I will use >it in all my new songs...hehe. > >>To record knob-movements, first make sure that you have midi-in and -out >>pugged in, then set the VIRUS-b to only respond on MIDI (Not Knowb and >Midi >>events!) events. Then start your recording and infect away!!! Easy as that. > >Hmmm...only responds on MIDI eh? Not sure how this works...I can't use the knobs with this setup? Why would I only want the Virus to respond to MIDI and not knobs? Doesn't a knob turn transmit back to Cake and record as a controller or sumptin? I don't fuly understand this yet, but I went out and >got some MIDI cables to hook it up correctly. Could you please elaborate on >this more? ;) > >>Hope that helped. >>cyber7 (Aubrey) >>Cape Town >>South Africa > > >Thanks!! > >Dan The Burke I remember sending an earlier mail...please lets concentrate on virus stuff....not mailing list problems...email Jay directly... it's not interesting for everyone. Thanks again... Paddy -----Original Message----- From: Jay Vaughan [SMTP:jay@teklab.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 3:10 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: still mailinglist problems... At 12:54 PM 02/24/2000 +0100, you wrote: >>Please Jay help! >I'll second that - I'm still getting doubles. We're working on it as I type... there's a lot to be done, though, as I am moving the TekLab domain to a brand new machine this weekend... please stay tuned. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} [NetMeeting:Yes] [VideoConferencing:Yes] TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.htmlGreetings! >About the INS file. There IS a Cakewalk INS file on the page aswell. It does take the names as they appear in the original release. Have a look... Hi Aubrey...thank you so much for your effort with this...I downloaded the template, and it is really slick....I am taking the liberty of updating the patch names, unless you can tell me where I can get the updated names? If you like, I can forward the new TPL file when I finish. ;) >To change the way that your knobs work, you have to go into the SYSTEM menu. >The PARAMETER is MIDI PANEL and the options you have is (INTERNAL, INT+MIDI, >MIDI). Actually, I found it under the MIDI parameter, but dat's ok. ;) >How this works is, if your MIDI-OUT is plugged into a sequencer (PC or standalown) and you set to INTERNAL, then NO knob movements gets sent to >the MIDI-OUT and the VIRUS reacts to knob movements. AHhhh I see..right now I have MIDI going from PC to the keyboard controller, MIDI out from the controller going to the O1W, OUT from the 01W to the computer and O1W thru to MKS50 in-thru VIRUS in. Would it be safe (speaking of latency) to route the OUT from the Virus instead of the 01W? IS there an optimal way to hook all this up? >If it is set to >INT+MIDI, then the VIRUS not only react to knob movements, but also to MIDI-IN events. If it is set to MIDI, the VIRUS only reacts to (Thats right - I think you got it:) ) events on your MIDI-IN (Say from Cakewalk) NOTE: it does send MIDI information OUT in this mode, but does not react to >it directly. But how do I control the VIRUS with those cool knobs if I only set the VIRUS to MIDI? SHouldn't it be INt + MIDI, or is that what you meant the whole time? ;) Seems like I just have to MIDI it up correctly eh? >So, IF you want to record MIDI events into Cakewalk, set your VIRUS to MIDI, >make sure that you are in Cakewalk on the right PORT and CHANNEL and START INFECTING!!! I hope I am understanding this correctly...thanks for your continued help! Dan The Burke P.S. Dang I still love this thing! I am constantly amazed by the quality of the sound\presets.hi mike.. how very kind.. don't worry, shippings on me... talk to you soon.. mikeSo, the first 12 hours as an Access Virus owner, and already I hate the thing. How the hell am I going to have the motivation to do things like 'go to work', 'eat', 'sleep with girlfriend', 'pay bills'........all these things now eat into my Virus time. Wow, wow...and indeed wow. Amazing synth, in all honesty all I've been doing it playing with the waveforms, LFOs, effects and Filters on the presets...but criminy, theres weeks worth of useability in them alone. It's a lot heavier than I thought....for some reason I pictured it as toughened plastic instead of metal.....but that just makes it all the better. Right......eh...this Email writing thing, it's eating into my Access Virus time :) PThe way I see it you have two choices. Send me your Virus and get on with your life, or let me know your girlfriends phone number and I'll Take that worry off your hands. David << So, the first 12 hours as an Access Virus owner, and already I hate the thing. How the hell am I going to have the motivation to do things like 'go to work', 'eat', 'sleep with girlfriend', 'pay bills'........all these things now eat into my Virus time. >> MP3.com - David Z ...you're a brave man David... B -----Original Message----- From: Davidzzz@aol.com [mailto:Davidzzz@aol.com] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 9:05 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Christ I hate this synth, Two Choices The way I see it you have two choices. Send me your Virus and get on with your life, or let me know your girlfriends phone number and I'll Take that worry off your hands. David << So, the first 12 hours as an Access Virus owner, and already I hate the thing. How the hell am I going to have the motivation to do things like 'go to work', 'eat', 'sleep with girlfriend', 'pay bills'........all these things now eat into my Virus time. >> MP3.com - David Z HAHAHAHA - what if his girl-friend is an 'AXE MURDERER'? cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - I am busy getting my wife right! She is only to ask me for anything after 1900 and before 1905. ELSE I AM BUSY! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 16:05 pm Subject: Re: Christ I hate this synth, Two Choices > >The way I see it you have two choices. Send me your Virus and get on with your life, or let me know your girlfriends phone number and I'll Take that worry off your hands. > >David > ><< So, the first 12 hours as an Access Virus owner, and already I hate the thing. > >How the hell am I going to have the motivation to do things like 'go to work', 'eat', 'sleep with girlfriend', 'pay bills'........all these things >now eat into my Virus time. >>> > > >MP3.com - David Z > just in time for spring/summer the ~Access Virus Bikini Swimsuit~ so we can give our girlfriends the attention they deserve while creating the music of tommorrow two tone black and burgandy lycra composite material with buttons, LCD screen, filters, and knobs in all the right places ; ) ... I gotta get out of the studio more Big Ups !! AndroidHi! Dan, I'm not sure if your query has been sorted or not, but this is how I rigged mine- MIDI out from Master keyboard and MIDI out from Virus, into a MIDI merge unit. Merge unit into computer MIDI in. This way, everything I do on the virus panel goes where I need it in the sequencer. Hope this helps. -Ben. - Original Message ----- From: Dan The Burke To: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 10:47 AM Subject: Newbie joins the Ward >Greetings, > >Well sure enough, I was handling a Virus, and tickle my T-Cells, I have been >infected! Okay, you have heard that a billion times before eh? > >Ya so anyhoo, I was going to buy a Novation SuperNova, after researching lots of VA synths on the Internet (and a few in stores). However, it was when I tested the Virus B and the SuperNova side by side that I was blown away by the little red biohazard. The sounds screamed out to me like a demon >on torture rack, whilst the SuperNova failed to raise my blood pressure appreciably. Not to mention of course, the Virus B is compact, cheaper, and >even fits nicely on my desktop (where I wanted it). The last thing I wanted >was a jillion 'turn me' knobs on a rack, since I am afraid my arm would go limp from twiddling myself silly (er that sounds sorta bad...hehe). > >So nice to meet you all! > >I have a question, if you don't mind. THo I have figured out to sequence with Cakewalk with the Virus B in Multi-Single Mode, I have not figured out >how to send knob infor from the Virus BACK to Cakewalk. In other words, (you >probably already know what I mean), I need to be able to twiddle the Virus knobs and have Cakewalk record those actions, so that playback reflects the >knob info. > >How do I do this? How would I wire that all up? > >Another question...anyone use the vocoder? If I want to put vocals thru that >for recording into Cake, how would I do this? I have a Mackie Mixer, would I >just treat the Virus as an FX box with respect to the Vocoder and or FX? > >Any help is much appreciated! > >Thanks.. > >Dan The Burke > > > I cannot speak of zzounds highly enough. Amazing customer service, keep you updated with every step of your order, and no messing around. I informed them that I'd seen the Virus B for 1129, within minutes they'd send back an Email saying they'd beat that and had set up a webpage specifically for me to order at $1099. A few days (and free shipping no tax later) and the beasty arrived. This is the 3rd time I've bought from them, each time without any hassle. Newbie Question Right, let me have my one token 'spaz' question. I tried to find this in the manual but couldn;t. I'll try and play with the virus later tonight at home (when I'm sure the answer may become apparent)...but be a hero. How to you check the OS version on the Virus, it doesn;t seem to appear on Boot. Thanks PRight, let me have my one token 'spaz' question. I tried to find this >in the manual but couldn;t. I'll try and play with the virus later tonight >at home (when I'm sure the answer may become apparent)...but be a hero. How to you check the OS version on the Virus, it doesn;t seem to >appear on Boot. Thanks P It should appear on boot...OS version, revision #...don't know why it wouldn't be there. Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >Hi! Dan, I'm not sure if your query has been sorted or not, but this is how >I rigged mine- >MIDI out from Master keyboard and MIDI out from Virus, into a MIDI merge unit. Merge >unit into computer MIDI in. This way, everything I do on the virus panel goes where I need it >in the sequencer. Hope this helps. > >-Ben. Ben, Hey thanks for the tip...what brand\type of MIDI merge unit do you have or recommend? I was thinking of getting the MIDIMAN Merge 2x2 from zzounds. By the way, ZZOUNDS.COM seems to have great prices and free shipping! Thanks Phlanno! ;) Ok cool, I will get the MIDI merge unit then, unless there is another solution...is there a compelling reason to get a MIDI merge unit with more ins and outs? Thanks, Dan The Burke>But how do I control the VIRUS with those cool knobs if I only set the VIRUS to MIDI? Shouldn't it be INt + MIDI, or is that what you meant the whole time? ;) Seems like I just have to MIDI it up correctly eh? Set to MIDI only, set your sequencer to allow sysex/polypressure through and bingo, the Virus will react to knob movements.hey, i was just wondering what online stores you would prefer to buy equipment from? what type of equipment you ask? stuff like synths, sequencers, you know, the fun techno stuff justin>...I was thinking of getting the MIDIMAN Merge 2x2 from zzounds. Ok cool, I will get the MIDI merge unit then, unless there is another solution...is there a compelling reason to get a MIDI merge unit with more ins and outs? Two compelling reasons I can think of: 1) You can make full use of more multimode devices when you have more outs 2) You need to hook up all device MIDI outs to make full use of a librarian e.g. Sounddiver BTW MIDIMAN - the Portman 2x4 is fairly cheap and works fine. Hooks up to a parallel port (are you a PC-user?), so you can use your soundcard MIDI ports at the same time, giving you 3 ins and 5 outs. Personally, I wouldn't bother with a simple merge unit.>BTW MIDIMAN - the Portman 2x4 is fairly cheap and works fine. Hooks up to a parallel port (are you a PC-user?), so you can use your soundcard MIDI ports at the same time, giving you 3 ins and 5 outs. Personally, I wouldn't bother with a simple merge unit. on a similar topic, has anyone had experience yet with USB-based MIDI interfaces? Anyone know if there is a significant timing advantage to the relatively fast USB interface? How about chaining several USB interfaces together ... compatability issues? thx! zsI have a PC with Midiman MidiSport 2x2 and my tempo drifts up and down based on number of tracks playing, and there is a subtle beat drift up and down like a random wave ontop of that first problem. The first one I described is really obvious when an arp'd beat is going as one track and few other tracks kick in later at same time that beat slows down. In the second discription it drifts but I'm not seeing what could influence it, and is independant of the first timing weirdness described. My friends swear that if I get a mac it will solve the problems for the most part. They claim that the USB spec doesn't work well with midi timing (mac or pc), but Apple has found a work around and there are new drivers (or what ever they would call them on a mac) that fix it. But on the PC they haven't got this fix yet. One of these friends who suggested it also owns the same midi USB device I have, and has problems too. He's gonna grab his motu unit from his main studio (when its not so busy) and try it out in place of the USB to confirm if it's the USB device. I suspect it could be considering it's the only thing common to our two systems besides cubase. I am bummed that the money I was gonna spend on a mixer, virus b, and Emu module will go to another computer and monitor, which is essentially not giving me anything new... I like to get new toys that make noise:-) Getting a Mac would be just giving me something that should already be working. I'm tempted to get a Motu 4x6 parellel device for my PC instead, but if I'm thinking long term, and in reality my gut says to go with a Mac for sequencing. (not starting a mac/pc arguement and if one does start I hope it goes off line... please only non-charged data in replies.) If it stops me from pulling out my remaining hair (hair not hairs), I'll get the Mac to solve timing issues (and other nusiance issues). Anyway, I'm drifting off topic... I don't recommend with clear conscious the USB midi devices if you have a PC. In my search for solid data on this I've come up short. I'm still searching tho. I'm hoping to find a company that has a driver "fix" for this issue on a mac, or something from Apple that says there is an issue with USB and midi timing, or something of that sort. One of my buddies is on the Opcode ( "sir not appearing in this film" ) mailing list that says its been talked about, so he'll dig into the archives to find info for me. Lets just say this USB box was what I thought to be a god send, when I was daisy chaining my Kawai, and Virus to a sound blaster Live. Now I see timing problems that I didn't first realise and could be due to the device which renders it an entire waste of $100. But in the end there will be a happy solution :-) Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Zack Steinkamp To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: Re: MIDI Interfaces (was: Knob twiddling to sequencer) >>BTW MIDIMAN - the Portman 2x4 is fairly cheap and works fine. Hooks up to a parallel port (are you a PC-user?), so you can use your soundcard MIDI ports at the same time, giving you 3 ins and 5 outs. Personally, I wouldn't >>bother with a simple merge unit. > >on a similar topic, has anyone had experience yet with USB-based MIDI interfaces? > >Anyone know if there is a significant timing advantage to the relatively fast USB interface? > >How about chaining several USB interfaces together ... compatability issues? > >thx! >zs >I have a PC with Midiman MidiSport 2x2 and my tempo drifts up and down based >on number of tracks playing, and there is a subtle beat drift up and down like a random wave ontop of that first problem. The first one I described is really obvious when an arp'd beat is going as one track and few other tracks kick in later at same time that beat slows down. In the second discription it drifts but I'm not seeing what could influence it, and is independant of the first timing weirdness described. Greetings! Perhaps you could get a MAC, but then again you could simply avoid the USB port altogether (for now). Since PC's are so well entrenched, there will be a fix for sure. USB implementation, tho it's been around since the Pentium II on a PC, perhaps has some bugs in it with regard to MIDI, which is a new implementation for PC and MIDI I think. Why don't you simply get the MIDIMAN MIDI unit as a serial\parallel connection, in other words, ditch the USB. I am sure with the huge amount of installed PC musicians, someone has MIDI timing working correctly. Going out and getting a MAC just for MIDI seems like a colossal waste of money, unless you were going to get the Mac anyway. You also might want to look into any OS weirdness you might be having...are you using Windows 98? >My friends swear that if I get a mac it will solve the problems for the most >part. Seems like an awful lot of money to spend for what would normally be a driver update or better yet, a non USB device for use with MIDI. There are gazillions of MIDI devices for PC, and they are not nearly as expensive as a new G3 or G4. >They claim that the USB spec doesn't work well with midi timing (mac or pc), but Apple has found a work around and there are new drivers (or what >ever they would call them on a mac) that fix it. Once again, seems like this solution would be like killing a fly with a nuclear warhead. Just try a non USB device...a little scientific experimentation will uncover the problem in no time. ;) What kind of audio card do you use? I use my Soundblaster Live and the MIDI seems to be rock solid, even when going through several devices. I also have a MIDI in and out on my MIDIMAN Delta 1010, which I don't even use. >But on the PC they haven't >got this fix yet. I don't want to get in a flame war, since there are both PC users and Mac users here, but I certainly would not buy an entire PC or Mac just to fix a MIDI problem. >One of these friends who suggested it also owns the same midi USB device I have, and has problems too. He's gonna grab his motu unit >from his main studio (when its not so busy) and try it out in place of the USB to confirm if it's the USB device. I suspect it could be considering it's the only thing common to our two systems besides cubase.< That would be a prudent, and wholly scientific approach as to deducing the actual casue of the problem, rather than going out and buying an entire rig just to fix MIDI. ;) >I am bummed that the money I was gonna spend on a mixer, virus b, and Emu module will go to another computer and monitor, which is essentially not giving me anything new... I like to get new toys that make noise:-) Getting >a Mac would be just giving me something that should already be working. I'm >tempted to get a Motu 4x6 parellel device for my PC instead, but if I'm thinking long term, and in reality my gut says to go with a Mac for sequencing. (not starting a mac/pc arguement and if one does start I hope it goes off line... please only non-charged data in replies.) How is the Mac better for sequencing? Not a flame war, since this is not religion, but fact, right? ;) It really depends on what you like. All things being equal (let's imagine this is true), then it's about what you feel comfy with. Heck, maybe you like the way the G4 looks...I certainly do. Is it fast? Many say it is very fast, faster than PC's, however, I use my computer for much more than MIDI, and I like the pre-emptive multitasking, protected memory, dynamic ram, flexibility, availability of software on the PC's...but that is just me. ;) I have owned Macs, Amigas, one Atari and a slew of PC's, so the machine I have now, to my best technical knowledge, is the best all around machine for me...it's got two processors as well, for 3D Studio MAX (not avalable on the Mac). Not to assume that everyone needs two processors, but my machine is great, overall, and right quick, hugely expandable, and upgradable on the cheap. My MIDI works great too. >If it stops me from pulling out my remaining hair (hair not hairs), I'll get >the Mac to solve timing issues (and other nusiance issues). Sure, if you want one anyway, it is a perfect excuse! I would be tempted to use a MAC G4 for MIDI, but for games, 3D, software availability, expandability, cost, music, not to mention sheer OS flexibility, I use a PC. >Anyway, I'm drifting off topic... I don't recommend with clear conscious the >USB midi devices if you have a PC. Thanks for the heads up! >In my search for solid data on this I've come up short. I'm still searching tho. I'm hoping to find a company that >has a driver "fix" for this issue on a mac, or something from Apple that says there is an issue with USB and midi timing, or something of that sort. >One of my buddies is on the Opcode ( "sir not appearing in this film" ) mailing list that says its been talked about, so he'll dig into the archives >to find info for me. > >Lets just say this USB box was what I thought to be a god send, when I was daisy chaining my Kawai, and Virus to a sound blaster Live. Now I see timing problems that I didn't first realise and could be due to the device which renders it an entire waste of $100. Better than spending nearly 5k on a G4 eh? ;) Seriously, go with a conventional MIDI device before you waste all your money on what could be a MUSIC device! ;) >But in the end there will be a happy solution :-) Good luck! Dan The Burke>Two compelling reasons I can think of: > >1) You can make full use of more multimode devices when you have more outs 2) You need to hook up all device MIDI outs to make full use of a librarian >e.g. Sounddiver > >BTW MIDIMAN - the Portman 2x4 is fairly cheap and works fine. Hooks up to a parallel port (are you a PC-user?), so you can use your soundcard MIDI ports at the same time, giving you 3 ins and 5 outs. Personally, I wouldn't >bother with a simple merge unit. Thanks for the info Howard....I will consider a traditional MIDI merge unit such as you mentioned...I will need something to get those amazing Viral knob twists back into Cakewalk. ;) Dan The Burke----- Original Message ----- From: Zack Steinkamp To: Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:59 PM Subject: Re: MIDI Interfaces (was: Knob twiddling to sequencer) >>BTW MIDIMAN - the Portman 2x4 is fairly cheap and works fine. Hooks up to >>a parallel port (are you a PC-user?), so you can use your soundcard MIDI ports at the same time, giving you 3 ins and 5 outs. Personally, I wouldn't >>bother with a simple merge unit. > >on a similar topic, has anyone had experience yet with USB-based MIDI interfaces? > >Anyone know if there is a significant timing advantage to the relatively fast USB interface? > >How about chaining several USB interfaces together ... compatability issues? > >thx! >zs > Fair point Zack, but I'm not a PC user, but merely a humble Atari Falcon030 user. For this, I use Logic, which comes with a dongle that has 4 MIDI ports built in, and I don't need any more Ins, 'cause I only have the one keyboard. -Ben.Hi Aubrey, could u please give up posting some of your mails with "highest priority"? I use priority-settings to sort my mails (about 30-40 per day) and it«s irritating when I have to change the priority of your mails. Anyway - u should let the readers decide whether your mails are important or not. cu... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://Tao7.tripod.com My music page at BeSonic (with RealAudio and MP3-samples): http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.htmlYou'll never guess what I found at one of my local Guitar Center's. This is the one that I have only been to for the first time. Usually I go to another local one because it's (slightly) closer. Anyways, I was going in there to do a special order on a NEXT VOX-II rack unit vocoder or possibly a Nova (what with all this talk about the new Nova II and Supernova II on the music bar lately:). I wanted some form of unit with a hardware vocoder built in and the Nova or VOX-II seemed to do the trick, the VOX-II at $549 or the Nova at $1199 (down from MSRP of $1599). The extra sound generating capabilities would be a plus. Anyways, while waiting for the lady to be finished with a previous customer so she could take my order I decided to browse the Pro Audio section for new synths, etc. and play with them a little. Lo and Behold, but what yon unit appears before my eyes? Could it truly be? These things aren't really sold in the US except for through special mail order or (maybe) major US cities like LA or NY, certainly not the Detroit Metro area. Yep, I found an Access Virus B (rack unit, not keyboard) just sitting there waiting to be tweaked. Well, to make a long story short, after trying out some of the sounds (love those couple deep fat bass sounds-have to use em in a song soon) and trying to figure it out, I decided I had to get this baby. Apparently some previous customer had special ordered it through GC and then decided they didn't want it so they returned it. What Luck! Good thing I tried this newer GC than the one I usually go to. Between the SU700 for sampled sounds and loop based tracks, the RM1x for drum patterns and other tone generation, and the RM1x driving the Virus B for fatter sounds, tweakable noise, and built-in vocoder I believe my kit is finally complete for the time being. My gear lust should be satiated and now I must get off my duff and learn the 3 machines to the fullest so that I can make the best use of them and lay down some phat tracks. Well, enough of my ranting. Sorry, I'm just so happy. I never expected to see a Virus in a US store and I'm not one for mail order. This was like a dream come true for me. Just downloaded 3.0b operating system and installed it last night. Up to 4 a.m. and at work right now. Need Sleep :O) Kinda sux that you have to have Cubase or similar to upload it to the Virus. Had to d'load another 8.1 MB to get the new OS in :( I'm not one for softseqs, never could figure 'em out. Too bad windows media player or something smaller and simpler won't do the trick. --wasted/su700fan --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.I'd love to hear it Michael. Uhman8 6711 Phinney Seattle, WA 98103 --- MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: >hi my name is michael geronsin and i work at a studio here in minnapolis.. >i use a virus a.. as well as numerous other synths: trinity, kurzweil, >roland, etc.. my 2nd cd is coming out in march and i was wondering if i >could send it to any one of you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comsounds good.. i'll send you one soon.. sincerely mikeI have uploaded a few of my patches today at the Virus Patchpoint. http://virus.k29.nu/ Some of them come with tiny MIDI demo sequences to demonstrate how to use the sounds. Please check them out. Feedbacks are welcome. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comThank you Norsez, for using my site. Superb. I'm gonna take a listen to your sounds tonight. wooh, John Machielsen Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >I have uploaded a few of my patches today at the Virus Patchpoint. http://virus.k29.nu/ Some of them come with tiny >MIDI demo sequences to demonstrate how to use the sounds. Please check them out. Feedbacks are welcome. > >norsez >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comCan you post to the list when it's ready? I'd like to hear a copy also!-bK > > >--- MYKE7777@aol.com wrote: >>hi my name is michael geronsin and i work at a studio here in minnapolis.. >>i use a virus a.. as well as numerous other synths: trinity, kurzweil, >>roland, etc.. my 2nd cd is coming out in march and i was wondering if i >>could send it to any one of you. >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comsure i'll post when the cd is ready.. it will probably be in the middle of march... ;) thanks mike gHi Kintama, >I have a PC with Midiman MidiSport 2x2 and my tempo drifts up and down based on number of tracks playing, The first one I described is really obvious when an arp'd beat is going as one track and few other tracks kick in later at same time that beat slows down. Most multi-port MIDI interfaces suffer timing interactions between ports, since the computer can only trigger notes one port at a time. Emagic's Unitor8 and AMT8 interfaces, in conjunction with Logic Audio, give excellent timing with true simultaneous multi-channel output. Logic Audio has excellent timing accuracy and groove, I pocket my rhythms to accuracy of 0.6 ms and hear that difference. MOTU have new MIDI interface products and time-stamping technology which should be good with their sequencer, may even be slightly better than AMT though much is marketing. However this technology has not yet stood the test of time. >My friends swear that if I get a mac it will solve the problems for the most part. They claim that the USB spec doesn't work well with midi timing (mac or pc), but Apple has found a work around and there are new drivers (or what ever they would call them on a mac) that fix it. USB is recent technology, could be problematic with either platform. Maybe less so on Mac, with new beta drivers. Serial port interfaces should work fine... Maybe a parallel port interface... don't worry about a Mac. There are cheaper ways to fix your problem, Macs have minimal advantages at very high cost. Cheers, Thomasunsubscribe Enofinkel@aol.com wrote: some days ago there were some mails with hints how to save a multi including all edited patches. Unfortunately I did not copy them to my archive. It would be kind if someone could tell me again, maybe to my private adress trippler@widat.de. Regards Stefan>I would appreciate if you could tell me how many semitones should be changed to get the tuning at A=441Hz. One semitone higher than 440 means 440 x (12th root of 2) = much more than 441, so we should be talking cents here. However, the Virus MasterTune parameter goes from -64 (-1 semitone) to +63 (+1 semitone). I don't feel like working it out exactly at this time of night, but my guess is +3 or +4.It's not all that rare to see a virus forsale in the US. GS here in SF has them, and portland has them. But I have a story about Guitar Center. I was there once, and I met this awsome girl. She was checking out the digi 001. And now we're dating. :) christopher. ----- Original Message ----- From: wasted To: music bar list ; Access Virus List Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 7:18 AM Subject: Great Find at Guitar Center in my area-Brag! >You'll never guess what I found at one of my local Guitar Center's. This is the one that I have only been to for the first time. Usually I go to another local one because it's (slightly) closer. Anyways, I was going in there to do a special order on a NEXT VOX-II rack unit vocoder or possibly a Nova (what with all this talk about the new Nova II and Supernova II on the music bar lately:). I wanted some form of unit with a hardware vocoder built in and the Nova or VOX-II seemed to do the trick, the VOX-II at $549 or the Nova at $1199 (down from MSRP of $1599). The extra sound generating capabilities would be a plus. > >Anyways, while waiting for the lady to be finished with a previous customer so she could take my order I decided to browse the Pro Audio section for new synths, etc. and play with them a little. Lo and Behold, but what yon unit appears before my eyes? Could it truly be? These things aren't really sold in the US except for through special mail order or (maybe) major US cities like LA or NY, certainly not the Detroit Metro area. Yep, I found an Access Virus B (rack unit, not keyboard) just sitting there waiting to be tweaked. Well, to make a long story short, after trying out some of the sounds (love those couple deep fat bass sounds-have to use em in a song soon) and trying to figure it out, I decided I had to get this baby. Apparently some previous customer had special ordered it through GC and then decided they didn't want it so they returned it. What Luck! Good thing I tried this newer GC than the one I usually go to. > >Between the SU700 for sampled sounds and loop based tracks, the RM1x for drum patterns and other tone generation, and the RM1x driving the Virus B for fatter sounds, tweakable noise, and built-in vocoder I believe my kit is finally complete for the time being. My gear lust should be satiated and now I must get off my duff and learn the 3 machines to the fullest so that I can make the best use of them and lay down some phat tracks. > >Well, enough of my ranting. Sorry, I'm just so happy. I never expected to see a Virus in a US store and I'm not one for mail order. This was like a dream come true for me. Just downloaded 3.0b operating system and installed it last night. Up to 4 a.m. and at work right now. Need Sleep :O) Kinda sux that you have to have Cubase or similar to upload it to the Virus. Had to d'load another 8.1 MB to get the new OS in :( I'm not one for softseqs, never could figure 'em out. Too bad windows media player or something smaller and simpler won't do the trick. > >--wasted/su700fan > > >--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.>It's not all that rare to see a virus forsale in the US. GS here in SF has >them, and portland has them. > >But I have a story about Guitar Center. I was there once, and I met this awsome girl. She was checking out the digi 001. And now we're dating. :) Actually, I bought my Virus from a Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks, California, so they definitely have them and I got a decent price...$1350 out the door. It was great to be able to play the thing live before buying...I was going to get the Supernova, but playing the two side by side eliminated any doubt of how cool the Virus B is. Dan The BurkeHi, Guido This is actually an 'involantry' behaviour of one of my mailing servers. I am using a package (Post Office) that does not do AUTO DIALING, unless the message is HIGH in priority. To bypass this, I force every n'th message to go priority HIGH on the server. I am sorry for the inconvenience this might cause, but until I get more money allocated towards upgrading the current infrastructure of that mailing server, I can not do anything about it... Cheers cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - I will try and refrain from posting mail via that server. It only happened 7 times since the start of this year. Maybe you should have a look at doing FILTERING FROM ADDRESS instead of by PRIority to sort your mail? ----- Original Message ----- From: Guido Storek To: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 15:40 pm Subject: Aubrey Kloppers - your mails >Hi Aubrey, > >could u please give up posting some of your mails with "highest priority"? > >I use priority-settings to sort my mails (about 30-40 per day) and it«s irritating when I have to change the priority of your mails. > >Anyway - u should let the readers decide whether your mails are important or not. > >cu... >Guido > >-- >About me, my music and my sports: >http://Tao7.tripod.com >My music page at BeSonic (with RealAudio and MP3-samples): http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.html > Hello Lads; OK, now before this spawns a flame war, I think that you guys should continue your conversation privatly. I personally don't give about the priority of the messages but I'm sure that some people do, but please contact Mr Kloppers yourself. Now back to the Virus er...and other usually interesting off-topic subjects. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Aubrey Kloppers [SMTP:systems@biblesociety.co.za] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 12:54 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Aubrey Kloppers - your mails Hi, Guido This is actually an 'involantry' behaviour of one of my mailing servers. I am using a package (Post Office) that does not do AUTO DIALING, unless the message is HIGH in priority. To bypass this, I force every n'th message to go priority HIGH on the server. I am sorry for the inconvenience this might cause, but until I get more money allocated towards upgrading the current infrastructure of that mailing server, I can not do anything about it... Cheers cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - I will try and refrain from posting mail via that server. It only happened 7 times since the start of this year. Maybe you should have a look at doing FILTERING FROM ADDRESS instead of by PRIority to sort your mail? ----- Original Message ----- From: Guido Storek To: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 15:40 pm Subject: Aubrey Kloppers - your mails >Hi Aubrey, > >could u please give up posting some of your mails with "highest priority"? > >I use priority-settings to sort my mails (about 30-40 per day) and it?s irritating when I have to change the priority of your mails. > >Anyway - u should let the readers decide whether your mails are important or not. > >cu... >Guido > >-- >About me, my music and my sports: >http://Tao7.tripod.com >My music page at BeSonic (with RealAudio and MP3-samples): http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.html > try www.novamusik.com, they have them for $1150 dan -----Original Message----- From: Dan The Burke [mailto:Burke@NocturnalE.com] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 11:01 PM To: access-list@teklab.com; Christopher Jones Subject: Re: Great Find at Guitar Center in my area-Brag! >It's not all that rare to see a virus forsale in the US. GS here in SF has >them, and portland has them. > >But I have a story about Guitar Center. I was there once, and I met this awsome girl. She was checking out the digi 001. And now we're dating. :) Actually, I bought my Virus from a Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks, California, so they definitely have them and I got a decent price...$1350 out the door. It was great to be able to play the thing live before buying...I was going to get the Supernova, but playing the two side by side eliminated any doubt of how cool the Virus B is. Dan The BurkeI guess Virii aren't that scarce in the US anymore. Anyways, I'm still glad I was able to find one in GC, try it out to see if I like it, and finance it. Even if I can't get the lower price that several people here have, I will still be satisfied that I got a decent deal considering I didn't have the funds to buy it in the first place :) Anyways, on to my question. Please excuse my ignorance. I haven't had time to read the whole manual and 3.0 addendum yet, just page through the sections relevant to my question, having just bought the Virus B Friday night. I just wanted to throw the question out in the air to get some experienced users answers ASAP so that if the virus doesn't do well enough what I want with the vocoder function of it I will have the time to take it back and get my account debited. What I seem to have noticed using headphones to monitor the sound via the left/phones output jack when trying the vocoder function of the virus is that the output is waaayyy low. even at full master volume on the main volume dial and 6-12 on the oscillator 2 dial (or whatever it's called) directly about the data wheel dial the sound can barely be heard. When using my RM1x to trigger sounds from the virus via MIDI notes the sounds are loud enough to hear sufficiently in both single and multi mode. Not blast your eardrums out loud even at the loudest setting for the master volume, but certainly way louder than the vocoded voice. Are the outputs for the Virus (and the RM1x for that matter) just quiet and require an amplified speaker system? I.E. is not enough signal going to the headphones jack since the main 2 outs are performing double duty as either l/r outs or l/phones and r/mono outs? Maybe some parameter in one of the many menus needs to be set to hear the vocoded voices louder via headphones? Anyone have any idea if I'm missing a step here or could someone explain vocoding setup for a Virus novice here? BTW, I'm using a Shure AXS-2 microphone (XLR connector) with adapter to 1/4" high impedance to low impedance convertor. Thanks in advance for any suggestions/help. I'm also trying to use the Virus' internal voices as the carrier wave, though if worse comes to worse I can also use the RM1x's sounds via the Virus' input. --wasted/su700fan --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.I swear, $1099 is the best price I've seen on them new. Right, first weekend with the Virus ( a bad purchase since I'm trying to finish my MCSE...books Versus V) Firstly, thanks for the answer on the OS check. I'll put that one down to being so excited when I first played with the thing that the big '3.0' just flew past me. Secondly, I have never...ever...heard a synth as capeable as this in such a compact unit. The sonic capeabilities are truly mindblowing. With just a few amplification alters, a filter tweak or two, and some LFO altering.....you can really make this thing sing. I wonder why more pros don't have them in their kitlist. Best audio purchase I've ever made, first audio purchase I've ever made without the 'guilt trip' of blowing cash. Finally, maybe it was brought up before I joined the list but did anyone read the fairly in depth (well, being more used to the Future Music type ponse reviews I'd consider it in depth) review of the KB and B in SOS this month. If so, comments? PAudioactive has a Pro version for something like $270 which seems outrageous to me. Is the Lite version adequate? Their Pro version includes a 'very high quality' encoding (I personally think that I'll wait for the 'very very very super duper high quality encoding'). Which do you use? By the way I am just encoding from .wav files. Thanks, Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: OT: MP3 Compressors Author: Non-HP-flp (flp@bigfoot.de) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 2/23/00 1:03 AM On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:27:32 -0800, dennis_schissler@hp.com wrote: > >Somewhat off-topic here but what do people use for their MP3 compression? I haven't been especially happy with the one's I've used so far (including the Sound Forge module) since I can detect some nasty artifacts. I can approve to your artefact experience. Most of the free or cheap encoders use the old public Fraunhofer code. This code was only released for demonstration purpose. Whenever you hear someone complainig about audible flaws with 128KBit/s mp3's it's very probably due to this old code. I just got myself a Pontis MP3-Player. They packed it with a CD containing an encoder. What shall I say? It's some old buggy code. No quality. I can recommend Adioactive Production Studio. You can encode in either quick mode or high quality mode. Even quick mode is far ahead of the public Fraunhofer code. flp I've tried in vain to get my Access Virus B to work correctly with Dig Performer. If I have the midi in and out of the Virus plugged in and turn any knobs (the Virus is suppose to be able to record knob moves with midi) the Virus locks up and goes crazy! My guess is I have a midi loop happening, is there a way to turn local off in a Virus B? I can unplug the midi in and record moves but by working this way I can't overdub or make corrections. My interface is a midi time piece AV. Any ideas on what will work with this setup? Sincerely LB440I think I might've answered my own previous question. I searched the net and found some old access-list@teklab posts at another website. I guess the Virus has only Line Level connectors and not Mic In Level connectors. That would probably explain why my voice wasn't showing up hardly and yet the Virus' internal sounds were adequate. So I guess what I'll have to do is either use the Line In/Mic In on my SU700 at Mic level and output my amplified voice via an assignable or stereo out to the Virus' audio in. Either that, or with a flair of poetic justice, use the Mic input for my Digitech Talker and the line out from the Talker to the Virus' line in. The talker is way too limited in vocoding possibilities and I bet the Virus' will blow it away. Of course it costs 5x as much, but it has so many more features. Thanks anyways for the responses. Looking forward to trying my theory out tonight when I get home from an 11-hour workday. --wasted/su700fan --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.Does anyone know what happened to the soft thru function on v3.0 for the virusb? I did not get a v 2.5 addendum, so the explanation may be there, but as it is I see no way to turn midi thru off. Can anyone help? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comthe virus b comes with a hardware thru ! Frie D'Gaulle schrieb: > >Does anyone know what happened to the soft thru function on v3.0 for the virusb? I did not get a v 2.5 addendum, so the explanation may be there, but as it is I see no way to turn midi thru off. Can anyone help? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comTo get to A 441 its not even a semitone. I think a semitone is somewhere around 15hrz, but I'm not sure. Check an acoustics book to be sure. Peaceout, Peter ------Original Message------ From: Aleksander Arsov To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: February 23, 2000 6:35:36 PM GMT Subject: Global tune Hallo everyone I would appreciate if you could tell me how many semitones should be changed to get the tuning at A=441Hz. Thanks Alex ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com"....I believe my kit is finally complete for the time being..." Heh, how many times have we all said that. Famous last words. Peaceout Peter ------Original Message------ From: "wasted" To: music bar list , Access Virus List Sent: February 26, 2000 3:18:11 PM GMT Subject: Great Find at Guitar Center in my area-Brag! You'll never guess what I found at one of my local Guitar Center's. This is the one that I have only been to for the first time. Usually I go to another local one because it's (slightly) closer. Anyways, I was going in there to do a special order on a NEXT VOX-II rack unit vocoder or possibly a Nova (what with all this talk about the new Nova II and Supernova II on the music bar lately:). I wanted some form of unit with a hardware vocoder built in and the Nova or VOX-II seemed to do the trick, the VOX-II at $549 or the Nova at $1199 (down from MSRP of $1599). The extra sound generating capabilities would be a plus. Anyways, while waiting for the lady to be finished with a previous customer so she could take my order I decided to browse the Pro Audio section for new synths, etc. and play with them a little. Lo and Behold, but what yon unit appears before my eyes? Could it truly be? These things aren't really sold in the US except for through special mail order or (maybe) major US cities like LA or NY, certainly not the Detroit Metro area. Yep, I found an Access Virus B (rack unit, not keyboard) just sitting there waiting to be tweaked. Well, to make a long story short, after trying out some of the sounds (love those couple deep fat bass sounds-have to use em in a song soon) and trying to figure it out, I decided I had to get this baby. Apparently some previous customer had special ordered it through GC and then decided they didn't want it so they returned it. What Luck! Good thing I tried this newer GC than the one I usually go to. Between the SU700 for sampled sounds and loop based tracks, the RM1x for drum patterns and other tone generation, and the RM1x driving the Virus B for fatter sounds, tweakable noise, and built-in vocoder I believe my kit is finally complete for the time being. My gear lust should be satiated and now I must get off my duff and learn the 3 machines to the fullest so that I can make the best use of them and lay down some phat tracks. Well, enough of my ranting. Sorry, I'm just so happy. I never expected to see a Virus in a US store and I'm not one for mail order. This was like a dream come true for me. Just downloaded 3.0b operating system and installed it last night. Up to 4 a.m. and at work right now. Need Sleep :O) Kinda sux that you have to have Cubase or similar to upload it to the Virus. Had to d'load another 8.1 MB to get the new OS in :( I'm not one for softseqs, never could figure 'em out. Too bad windows media player or something smaller and simpler won't do the trick. --wasted/su700fan --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comalright math geeks - here's the scoop basic formula: freq2 = freq * (2 ^ (semitones/12)) to answer this wacked question, we must solve for 'semitones' 441Hz = 440Hz * (2 ^ (x/12)) 441Hz ----- = 2 ^ (x/12) 440Hz 1.002727... = 2 ^ (x/12) -or- log(base2) 1.00272727... = x/12 .003275132 = x/12 x = .039301584 semitones ~ 4 cents whew! (and you thought music was art!) zs Peter Hasek wrote: > >To get to A 441 its not even a semitone. I think a semitone is somewhere around 15hrz, but I'm not sure. Check an acoustics book to be sure. > >Peaceout, > >Peter > >------Original Message------ >From: Aleksander Arsov To: access-list@teklab.com >Sent: February 23, 2000 6:35:36 PM GMT >Subject: Global tune > >Hallo everyone > >I would appreciate if you could tell me how many semitones should be changed to get the tuning at A=441Hz. > >Thanks > >Alex > >----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================Hey, I upgraded to the B and lost some important multi sounds. Can someone please tell me the patches used in Multi 6 on the Virus A??? Dan thanksHi there, is there a way to see patchs name in vst (program change) ? like: send info in sysex to vst to recognize the patch name or something... i really dont know hehehe thats why i ask ? :) RemiJust got the Virus b last week at GC Seattle. I've been lusting after it for some time now and it's even better than I had hoped. Anyway, not to flame, but has anyone floated the idea of a web based forum instead of this somewhat archaic mailing list ... or am I missing something. Is there somewhere where old messages have neen archived? Justin.Greetings fellow Quarrantined Infectoids, Speaking of Cakewalk, I am aware that there are Cakewalk 9 INS files for the Virus floating around out there, however, I have not seen any INS files for the Virus 3, with all the latest patch names in all banks. Perhaps someone out there can direct me to a link where this can be found? Aubrey I found the INS file on your site, but it doesn't seem to have the latest names, am I missing something? ;) In any event, I am typing in the names here by hand, if anyone needs the resultant INS file, then just let me know. Otherwise, I just wasted a bunch of time typing patch names..HAHA. Ah well, the things we do to stay infected! ;) Dan The BurkeOnce again, DAN please have a look at http://go.to/cyber7 and follow the link into the VIRUS page. you will see that there is indeed a INS file for CWP9 (3.0b release of VIRII). Enjoy :)) cyber7 (Auybrey)>Once again, DAN please have a look at http://go.to/cyber7 and follow the link into the VIRUS page. you will see that there is indeed a INS file for >CWP9 (3.0b release of VIRII). > >Enjoy :)) > >cyber7 (Auybrey) Hi there, Thanks for the headzup again..sheesh. Not sure how I got lost last time, but I have the proper file now. Thanks! DanHi, This is a spaz question, I am sure.... It seems I am having problems now that I have my Korg and Virus hooked up. The problem is, the Korg instrument is triggering the Virus, but not the other way around (IF I disable certain tracks for the Korg). Is there a way to disable certain tracks on the Virus B OR better yet, will a MIDI merge unit be able to sufficiently seperate MIDI out so that the devices are not daisy chained together? I've never had this many devices before, so I am trying to sort it all out. As it is now, I have the MIDI thru coming off the Korg 01W, to the MKS-50, and to the VIrus. I am sure there is a better way to do this, but how? Do I just need to get a solid MIDI merge unit? If so, which one? I was thinking about getting the MIDIMAN 2x4 anyway, to get the VIRUS B to record knob info back into Cake. Any help is appreciated! Thanks! Dan The Burke>I've tried in vain to get my Access Virus B to work correctly with Dig Performer. If I have the midi in and out of the Virus plugged in and turn any knobs (the Virus is suppose to be able to record knob moves with midi) the Virus locks up and goes crazy! My guess is I have a midi loop happening, is there a way to turn local off in a Virus B? I can unplug the midi in and I'd hazard a guess that you could solve the problem by turning KnobMode to Midi instead of the default Int+Midi (found in Control-menu). Best regards, - janne kaipainen - jatka@cc.jyu.fiIs the sounds not the same in release 2.51/2.52 of both the VIRUS-b and the VIRUS-a? If someone can confirm, I do have the ORIGINAL VIRUS-b saved (I dumped it before upgrading to the VIRUS 3.0 OS). If so, I can make it available on my web-page. Alternatively, you could always request the previous OS sounds from ACCESS themselves. I hope that this could be of assistance. cheers cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 01:39 am Subject: Virus A owners please help >Hey, I upgraded to the B and lost some important multi sounds. Can someone >please tell me the patches used in Multi 6 on the Virus A??? > > >Dan > >thanksCould this be the infamous 'wasted'? Welcome to the ACCESS board. Hope your machine gives you everything and more. Please keep in mind that the sounds on the VIRUS-b is only there as "sorta demo patches" (I still can't get over what is in this machine). I think that this box was never brought out for serious muso's (Ohhh I am treding on thin air!) but more for the 'synth-designer'. That serious muso's got to use the box is only an added extra :)) I think my next project will be to start designing my own sounds, but the problem with this is that there is people around like HS and Rob Papen around that will program the sound LOOOOONNNNGGGG before I even get the chance to think of it... Hmmmm - Then I have this patch from J called Halucigen. It makes my skin crawl to know that people can take an idea and bomb it into a sound... HS's sounds is of such high standard. There is a sound (I forget the name) which is a duplicate of a sound from the JV1080 called FLYING WALTZ. I had to sell my JV1080 to purchase this ANALOGUE COMPUTER MACHINE and actually lost the sound, but after listening to his 88soundset, I am now convinced that ANY sound can be recreated on the virii Cheers and many sleepless nights cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - There is a couple of people who will take over your girlfriend until such time that you can see her from behind the VIRUS-b again :)) SPEAK TO THE LIST!Item Subject: Hello Oh no! Not again! ;) Actually Justin, there was quite a debate on just this topic a few weeks ago and the consensus was generally to stay here with the 'archaic' mailing list. You can find archives at Canine's Virus website: http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ Welcome to the club! -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Hello Author: Non-HP-wolfetone (wolfetone@uswest.net) at hp-boise,shargw6 Date: 2/28/00 10:09 PM Just got the Virus b last week at GC Seattle. I've been lusting after it for some time now and it's even better than I had hoped. Anyway, not to flame, but has anyone floated the idea of a web based forum instead of this somewhat archaic mailing list ... or am I missing something. Is there somewhere where old messages have neen archived? Justin. Of those new sounds... Timpotro is REALLY cool !Ê I had no idea one patch could sound like a multi. Looks like there will be lots to learn in this one, and I'll put some mileage on this one too :-) I went thru them all but that one stood out as my favorite in the first pass, but you know how that goes... Each time you listen to new patches for the first week you have a new favorite and new ideas on how to use it. Love to see more of the trippy paddy stuff like that.Ê Kintama Infamous Wasted? Didn't know I had acquired a reputation? Maybe someone else? I'm a regular on the music bar and (recently) RM1x and this list. I tend to be quite talkative sometimes, asking and answering many questions. I also belong to some Yahoo Clubs and onelist mailing lists for the SU700 and RM1x. Other than that, the only thing that I can think of that might've made me infamous are the 3 songs uploaded to Samplelibrary.net: Komatos, elektro1 and elektro2. I noticed Komatos is at 71 downloads, so some of ya's out there must have heard it and (maybe) liked it. #5 or 6 of the top 10 downloads for the Music Bar download section of SLN:>) My first song. Anyways, I digress. I may or may not be your infamous Wasted. Please clue me in. Thanks for the invite to the group anyways. I just go the Virus B desk unit last Friday and am finding it tres cool. The vocoder function (one of the main reasons I bought it) is more than satisfactory. And the sound creation and manipulation is just awesome. Makes a great addition to the SU700 and RM1x I have. Can't wait to use it in my next song or 2. Especially the vocoder :) --wasted/su700fan P.S. My girlfriend is now my wife (has been since last July) and she doesn't like me behind any of my machines very much :) Tends to think I'm ignoring her if I spend to many hours together. I can't wait to try out all these patches and download a few more off the net. That is as soon as I dig into the manual to get a more detailed understanding of the Virus' many options. On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:22:10 Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >Could this be the infamous 'wasted'? Welcome to the ACCESS board. Hope your machine gives you everything and more. Please keep in mind that the sounds on the VIRUS-b is only there as "sorta demo patches" (I still can't get over what is in this machine). > >I think that this box was never brought out for serious muso's (Ohhh I am treding on thin air!) but more for the 'synth-designer'. That serious muso's got to use the box is only an added extra :)) > >I think my next project will be to start designing my own sounds, but the problem with this is that there is people around like HS and Rob Papen around that will program the sound LOOOOONNNNGGGG before I even get the chance to think of it... > >Hmmmm - Then I have this patch from J called Halucigen. It makes my skin crawl to know that people can take an idea and bomb it into a sound... > >HS's sounds is of such high standard. There is a sound (I forget the name) which is a duplicate of a sound from the JV1080 called FLYING WALTZ. I had to sell my JV1080 to purchase this ANALOGUE COMPUTER MACHINE and actually lost the sound, but after listening to his 88soundset, I am now convinced that ANY sound can be recreated on the virii > >Cheers and many sleepless nights >cyber7 (Aubrey) >PS - There is a couple of people who will take over your girlfriend until such time that you can see her from behind the VIRUS-b again :)) SPEAK TO THE LIST! --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.hello guys, I plan to buy some equipment for a live perfomance of course together with my virus and the esi4000-sampler. Any ideas - drumcomputers, stepsequenzers, ... ??? thanks, in advance cheers nicoelectribe er-1 is a great live drum machine. peaceout ------Original Message------ From: Nico Grubert To: "access-list@teklab.com" Sent: February 29, 2000 5:54:33 PM GMT Subject: live-performance hello guys, I plan to buy some equipment for a live perfomance of course together with my virus and the esi4000-sampler. Any ideas - drumcomputers, stepsequenzers, ... ??? thanks, in advance cheers nico ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comPeter Hasek wrote: > >electribe er-1 is a great live drum machine. > >peaceout yeah peter...on the way...used ER1 for 600,- DMHmm. Well I guess I'll just give you the main pieces I use in my live setup, and you can ask me for opinions on any of the pieces. Yamaha RM1X Akai MPC2000XL Access Virus Kawai K5000R Roland TR-606 Korg ER-1 8 channels of compression (2xBehringer MDX2200, dbx 1046) Lexicon MPX-100 fx processor Mackie SR24-4 Compression is a must!!!! Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: Nico Grubert To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: February 29, 2000 6:20:44 PM GMT Subject: Re: live-performance Peter Hasek wrote: > >electribe er-1 is a great live drum machine. > >peaceout yeah peter...on the way...used ER1 for 600,- DM ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comIn what situations do you use compression? I have only recently begun to experiment with it. Do you only use it live, or do you compress individual tracks when doing multitrack recording as well to manage dynamic range? I have no idea where I should be applying it in my music (and only a vague idea as to why). -Russ Peter Hasek wrote: ... >Compression is a must!!!! Newbie inquiry. Could you explain the purpose of compression and why it's important. What I understand is that compression is the process of increasing the 'punch' of your sounds while maintaining it's audio detail and integrity. Since I'm only assuming this conclusion from lurking on lists I could be completely wrong. As my first introduction to the world of music, I must say that I love my RM1X. Relatively small in size but when I sit down to get an idea out of my head it provides a very flexible canvas for me to sketch out my concepts into complete compositions. Gear List: Yamaha RM1X Cheap headphones. Hahaha, laughing at myself=) -Logan ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Hasek To: Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Re: live-performance >Hmm. Well I guess I'll just give you the main pieces I use in my live setup, and you can ask me for opinions on any of the pieces. > >Yamaha RM1X >Akai MPC2000XL >Access Virus >Kawai K5000R >Roland TR-606 >Korg ER-1 >8 channels of compression (2xBehringer MDX2200, dbx 1046) Lexicon MPX-100 fx processor >Mackie SR24-4 > >Compression is a must!!!! > >Peaceout > > > >------Original Message------ >From: Nico Grubert >To: access-list@teklab.com >Sent: February 29, 2000 6:20:44 PM GMT >Subject: Re: live-performance > > > > >Peter Hasek wrote: >> >>electribe er-1 is a great live drum machine. >> >>peaceout > >yeah peter...on the way...used ER1 for 600,- DM > >----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > hologramrinse writes: | Could you explain the purpose of compression and why | it's important. | What I understand is that compression is the process of | increasing the 'punch' of your sounds while maintaining it's | audio detail and integrity. Since I'm only assuming this conclusion | from lurking on lists I could be completely wrong. Well, it can do that when used correctly. Mostly it's over-used. Compressors scrunch the dynamic range of a recording by controlling the loud portions. This allows you to make quiet parts louder, because you can bring up the overall level of the track without blowing everybody's ears during the loud parts. Guitarists use the effect to get really long sustain times. They compress their signal, bring the volume way up, and you can hear very quiet string vibrations. Vocalists use the effect to control their dynamics. If you hear a vocal track with lots of breathy sounds in it, you are probably listening to a very compressed vocal. You can use a compressor as a more effect-y thing by playing with the attack and release times. Get "crunchy" sounds with really fast attacks and releases. You can do great things to kicks by compressing the hell out of them, turning them into punchy thuds. People tend to buy the Alesis 3630 because it's cheap. Well, yeah, it sure is cheap. Best blinky light bang for the buck, yep. I'm a big fan of the RNC1773 for a cheap compressor that doesn't suck. The rec.audio.pro FAQ: -- C J Silverio ceej@spies.com Black book: an online journal Compression on individual tracks, and then on the full mix. I use it for recording too, but for multitracking you only really need one compressor (do each track indi). I never multi-track, at least not yet, as everything I do I try do do in such a way that it can be recreated live. Peaceout, Peter ------Original Message------ From: Russ Magee To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: February 29, 2000 7:18:29 PM GMT Subject: Re: live-performance In what situations do you use compression? I have only recently begun to experiment with it. Do you only use it live, or do you compress individual tracks when doing multitrack recording as well to manage dynamic range? I have no idea where I should be applying it in my music (and only a vague idea as to why). -Russ Peter Hasek wrote: .... >Compression is a must!!!! > ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com------Original Message------ From: "hologramrinse" To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: February 29, 2000 7:30:05 PM GMT Subject: Re: Re: live-performance Newbie inquiry. Could you explain the purpose of compression and why it's important. What I understand is that compression is the process of increasing the 'punch' of your sounds while maintaining it's audio detail and integrity. Since I'm only assuming this conclusion from lurking on lists I could be completely wrong. As my first introduction to the world of music, I must say that I love my RM1X. Relatively small in size but when I sit down to get an idea out of my head it provides a very flexible canvas for me to sketch out my concepts into complete compositions. Gear List: Yamaha RM1X Cheap headphones. Hahaha, laughing at myself=) -Logan ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Hasek To: Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Re: live-performance >Hmm. Well I guess I'll just give you the main pieces I use in my live setup, and you can ask me for opinions on any of the pieces. > >Yamaha RM1X >Akai MPC2000XL >Access Virus >Kawai K5000R >Roland TR-606 >Korg ER-1 >8 channels of compression (2xBehringer MDX2200, dbx 1046) Lexicon MPX-100 fx processor >Mackie SR24-4 > >Compression is a must!!!! > >Peaceout > > > >------Original Message------ >From: Nico Grubert >To: access-list@teklab.com >Sent: February 29, 2000 6:20:44 PM GMT >Subject: Re: live-performance > > > > >Peter Hasek wrote: >> >>electribe er-1 is a great live drum machine. >> >>peaceout > >yeah peter...on the way...used ER1 for 600,- DM > >----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > > ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comYeah, unfortunately I didn't hear about the RNC until after I bought my other ones. Though I got them all for quite cheap so its nice. I use compression for 3 things. 1 to keep my drums and bass under control. 2 to keep my synth lines and vocals up front in the mix w-out worrying about self-oscillations and plosives killing everything. 3 to keep everything in a live situation at a high volume level yet not have to worry about blowing anything. I think I'm using it for the right reasons. What do you mean by it being over-used? Please explain. Proper compression is the kind of thing that usually isn't even noticable to the untrained ear (as it is with my stuff). Do you mean that it's too often improperly used, or that people should not use it period? Peaceout, Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: C J Silverio To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: February 29, 2000 7:39:42 PM GMT Subject: Re: Re: live-performance hologramrinse writes: | Could you explain the purpose of compression and why | it's important. | What I understand is that compression is the process of | increasing the 'punch' of your sounds while maintaining it's | audio detail and integrity. Since I'm only assuming this conclusion | from lurking on lists I could be completely wrong. Well, it can do that when used correctly. Mostly it's over-used. Compressors scrunch the dynamic range of a recording by controlling the loud portions. This allows you to make quiet parts louder, because you can bring up the overall level of the track without blowing everybody's ears during the loud parts. Guitarists use the effect to get really long sustain times. They compress their signal, bring the volume way up, and you can hear very quiet string vibrations. Vocalists use the effect to control their dynamics. If you hear a vocal track with lots of breathy sounds in it, you are probably listening to a very compressed vocal. You can use a compressor as a more effect-y thing by playing with the attack and release times. Get "crunchy" sounds with really fast attacks and releases. You can do great things to kicks by compressing the hell out of them, turning them into punchy thuds. People tend to buy the Alesis 3630 because it's cheap. Well, yeah, it sure is cheap. Best blinky light bang for the buck, yep. I'm a big fan of the RNC1773 for a cheap compressor that doesn't suck. The rec.audio.pro FAQ: -- C J Silverio ceej@spies.com Black book: an online journal ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comHi there, Is there a way to seperate MIDI instruments so that each instrument has 16 of it's own, discrete channels? For instance, If I play my KORG 01W on track 4, it triggers the Virus as well. I want to seperate these two instruments, so that I have 16 channels of the KORG and 16 of the Virus. Anyway to do this? Do I need a special PORT box or sumptin? As it is now, I have to disable certain channels on the Korg that will be dedicated to the Virus, but I do not know of a way to disable channels on the Virus. When I play the Korg, the Virus plays, which I don't want. I would love to be able to switch 'ports' or instruments so that the Korg only plays 16 channels of Korg sounds, the Virus plays 16 channels of Virus only, etc. How do I do this? Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Dan The Burkeyour suspicion is correct each MIDI port can handle 16 channels. So if you want 16 for your Korg and 16 for your Virus, you need two ports. Most of the time, you'll want to hook up both an IN and OUT to each of your instruments, so you'll need two INs and two OUTs. If you're like me, you will probably get more gear as time passes, so you may want to start with more ports to acomodate future expansion. Here are some links: http://www.midiman.net/Html/products/USB2x2.html (USB 2-in 2-out box ... but be careful with USB ... new technology is unproven) http://www.midiman.net/Html/products/BiP2x4.html (inexpensive 2-in 4-out PC/Mac interface) http://www.motu.com/english/hardware/global/index.html (high-end multiport interfaces) these are just a few of the many, many products available to musicians looking for a MIDI solution. =zs Dan The Burke wrote: > >Hi there, > >Is there a way to seperate MIDI instruments so that each instrument has 16 of it's own, discrete channels? > >For instance, If I play my KORG 01W on track 4, it triggers the Virus as well. I want to seperate these two instruments, so that I have 16 channels of the KORG and 16 of the Virus. Anyway to do this? Do I need a special PORT box or sumptin? > >As it is now, I have to disable certain channels on the Korg that will be dedicated to the Virus, but I do not know of a way to disable channels on the Virus. When I play the Korg, the Virus plays, which I don't want. > >I would love to be able to switch 'ports' or instruments so that the Korg only plays 16 channels of Korg sounds, the Virus plays 16 channels of Virus only, etc. > >How do I do this? Any help is appreciated! > >Thanks, > >Dan The Burke -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================