I'll give it a go... Philipp Mott wrote: >I just completed a version of the studio module driver for Access Virus. Virus-A: Due to the (optional) update of the C/D rom banks the patch names have changed. I will maintain two driver versions for both the old and the new patch names. This could be solved in a single driver version using an additional dump type. Unfortunately you would not be able to re-use patch dumps made with older versions of the driver. This is why we need two driver versions. > >- Is anyone interested in testing the new version? - Is anyone interested in testing it with VIRUS-B / VIRUS-KB (Paul, are you still beta-testing?) > >I need your support, otherwise there won't be an official driver version (and Steinberg appears to be very cooperative if you develop drivers...). > >CU >flpOpps! Again, I'll give it a go! ;-0 Philipp Mott wrote: > > >- Is anyone interested in testing the new version? - Is anyone interested in testing it with VIRUS-B / VIRUS-KB (Paul, are you still beta-testing?) > >I need your support, otherwise there won't be an official driver version (and Steinberg appears to be very cooperative if you develop drivers...). > >CU >flpHi, im very interested in testing this driver with my VirusB.... if so, you can send it to: phonofunk@hotmail.com hope to get it :) thanks in advance phonofunk Philipp Mott a Žcrit : I just completed a version of the studio module driver for Access Virus. Virus-A: Due to the (optional) update of the C/D rom banks the patch names have changed. I will maintain two driver versions for both the old and the new patch names. This could be solved in a single driver version using an additional dump type. Unfortunately you would not be able to re-use patch dumps made with older versions of the driver. This is why we need two driver versions. - Is anyone interested in testing the new version? - Is anyone interested in testing it with VIRUS-B / VIRUS-KB (Paul, are you still beta-testing?) I need your support, otherwise there won't be an official driver version (and Steinberg appears to be very cooperative if you develop drivers...). CU flp Do most of you build your Virus sounds from scratch? Or do you play with the factory sounds and tweak them a little and then save them that way?For me it really depends. Sometimes, though this is rare, I get an idea for a sound in my head, and figure it out from the patch. Usually though it's other patches that inspire me, often I'm using a factory patch, and just screwin around with it when I do something cool and it sounds nice. I know all the subtractive/FM synthesis stuff, so I could do everything from scratch, but to be honest, I'm too impatient. This is with the virus, just think how long I lasted with c-sound...*snore*. Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: Mark Holloway To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: February 10, 2000 5:04:04 AM GMT Subject: Virus Sounds Do most of you build your Virus sounds from scratch? Or do you play with the factory sounds and tweak them a little and then save them that way? ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comOh I'm sorry Oli but it really didn't bug me, so please don't let my response bug you. I should have had my Mountian Dew to wake up before I responded to all the emails first hehe. While driving to work I was getting an ugly feeling about all this in me and thought that something isn't right... not just the obvious surface issues about who wants what either.... If we were going towards a good thing people would be more excited and there wouldn't be that ugly vibe about it in me. Of course part of me thinks too that sometimes evil will try to stop a good thing from happening, but I can't say what Jay is doing is less than a good thing.. I've always felt his efforts to be great (cept for that deal about not getting me to send :-) ). Yeah the list has its quirks, but nothing that is worth the rage that is going on. My point is that no problem in life is worth unhappiness. If this guy named moron can fix the quirks, that would be alot easier than getting everyone to change routines I suppose. My goal wasn't to trash on the current list, it was only to improve things, and I think if we pull back from this and look at it, that is what we all want.. things to be great in the land of the Virus synth communtiy. We'll get these guys on the list that arent' on.. we'll get the unsubscribers off... we'll get the double messages fixed too. One area that I was wrong was the publicity factor. I wanted one list because of that mostly. (well I thought it could fix the quirks too.) But it dawned on me today, that I had no problems finding the list, and Access puts a link on the website to teklab (as I recall anyway), so it's really not an issue. Tho people not used to the concept of sending Majordomo commands will be perplexed a bit the first time, but its not hard to figure it out, and Jay is very willing to help. My point here, that I was completely wrong about the publicity gained by being on a different list. That people who buy a virus or want to research it will go to the Access website first and find where we all hang out. What ever makes us happy... lets go with that. Lets not let the anger drive us, lets let the fun drive the right thing into being whatever that may be. Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Oliver To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Onelist? was: Trouble in my way today >Come on , take a translater and read my message again , i said that was a good >mail . >The only thing i was complaining where the upset answers of some other people >and >not concerning your mail . Then i added that i dont have any problems so im not >that interested in a move . But where youre right is the archive thing : Onelist >offers a very >good archive , and i didnt get any spam from them , so i would not cry up if >there would be a move as some others . And to the big company vs little company >thing : I am a consumer >and no idealist so whoever has the best solution will get my vote . > >OolilliAt 09:04 PM 2/9/00 -0800, you wrote: >Do most of you build your Virus sounds from scratch? Or do you play with the factory sounds and tweak them a little and then save them that way? > Almost all of the virus sounds that I use I create from scratch, starting with sound C127. Occasionally, if I find a sound on the net or something that catches my ear, I use that, but I always modify it quite a bit to make it fit the bill more. Cam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=Also: the cover story about Nine Inch Nails from this month's Keyboard magazine mentions the Virus a couple of times... I guess Trent (and/or his sound designers) used it on "The Fragile." I think they used it quite a bit to process guitar tracks. There's a lot of interesting stuff in that article, actually, and worth checking out... Cam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=I've attached a Zip file containing 14 patches, hope you'll get it. However if it doesn't work I'll upload them today to the Patchpoint page (http://virus.k29.nu). Maybe they'll help to convince this industrial/d&b/hardcore fan ;) ____________________________ http://www.worldonline.fr/ Attachment converted: f2000:C-\WINDOWS\BUREAU\PF patches.zi (pZIP/pZIP) (00005F0A)Thank you very much for the patches, they are awesome! I have a question, though. What does this mean?: Of course these patches are not for commercial purpose, but for virus addicts only. Does this mean that I am not allowed to use the patches if I am going to release a new song with this sound in it? I am not always to sure about the copyright of sounds. To give you an idea, I had a JV1080 (Which I used as 1/2 payment on the VIRUS-b) and made some samples from the patches I used. Roland did not want to give me an official answer if I am allowed to do this or not. This brings me to another one... What if I bought a soundset for any of my synths, can I after making a change to the patch, re-sell them? I see so many people who are selling TR909/808/303 sounds. Is this legal? I realy don't understand the concept of copyright in it's fullest. some of the samplecd's I've got, says explicidly that the samples on the CD have been licenced to XYZ company, but if you listen to any D&B or Jungle sample CD, you will hear Mr James Brown. Does this mean that every single one of them payed James Brown for the use of the loops? What about 're-slicing' or 're-cycling' the loop? Do you still have to pay copyright on it? Thanks Fredric for changing the topic. I think this is way better than the onelist thing! cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 10:31 am Subject: D&B patches >I've attached a Zip file containing 14 patches, hope you'll get it. However if it doesn't work I'll upload them today to the Patchpoint page (http://virus.k29.nu). >Maybe they'll help to convince this industrial/d&b/hardcore fan ;) > >____________________________ >http://www.worldonline.fr/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- To answer the question about the use of my patches : do whatever you want with them, from an underground track to a commercial hit : it's free. The only thing I ask is not to sell them as they are. Concerning the problem of copyrights in music, as far as I know, you can sale your own patch even with minor edit. In the case of audio samples, it becomes much more restrictive ( no resale and sometimes you even have to pay again to use the sounds in your commercial tracks !). But maybe laws are different from a country to another so please take care since what I said was for France. cheers ____________________________ http://www.worldonline.fr/aubrey, in my opinion, you can use virus patches for commercial use...imagine, for example you change the cutoff of the patch from value 68 to value 67 ... and now ? it is your patch! that is what i think. regards nicoive always wondered about the quality of that magazine which ones would you prefer as far as electronic equipment is conserned? justin -----Original Message----- From: Cam >Also: the cover story about Nine Inch Nails from this month's Keyboard magazine mentions the Virus a couple of times... I guess Trent (and/or his sound designers) used it on "The Fragile." I think they used it quite a bit to process guitar tracks. There's a lot of interesting stuff in that article, actually, and worth checking out... > >Cam > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|= > I have an article on Copyright etc. from keyboard magazine a few months ago, if anybody wants a copy email me your address and I'll do you a photo copy. As regards patches though, unless they are signature patches, and have been copyrighted by the artist, then as long as your selling the preset patches as your own on CD, then you can quite happily uses them in a many tracks as you like. If that was the case then thousands of english bands would be fighting law suits with synth manufactures. They are likely to be loop holes, so it worth checking out copyright for your country. Laters.. MarkSorry that should be 'then as long as your NOT selling the preset patches as your own...' >as your own on CD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Child" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Re -D&B patches >I have an article on Copyright etc. from keyboard magazine a few months ago, >if anybody wants a copy email me your address and I'll do you a photo copy. > >As regards patches though, unless they are signature patches, and have been >copyrighted by the artist, then as long as your selling the preset patches as your own on CD, then you can quite happily uses them in a many tracks as >you like. If that was the case then thousands of english bands would be fighting law suits with synth manufactures. They are likely to be loop holes, so it worth checking out copyright for your country. > >Laters.. > >Mark ....but could anybody tell me how to load patches to desired programmes?....(I«ve created some patches on programmes 1-30 and i don«t want them to be overwritten...). another question: how can I save my own patches??? is there a way to verify them? thanx a lot RobDo you use a MAc or PC? Mac: Galaxy work real well! I don't know about a PC... ....but could anybody tell me how to load patches to desired programmes?....(I«ve created some patches on programmes 1-30 and i don«t want them to be overwritten...). another question: how can I save my own patches??? is there a way to verify them? thanx a lot Rob Robert Mirza-Zadeh wrote: >Name: MEMO 10/02/00 12:55:00 >MEMO 10/02/00 12:55:00 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >Encoding: 8bit>Do you use a MAc or PC? >Mac: Galaxy work real well! >I don't know about a PC... i`m using a PC never heard about "galaxy". What kind of software is this?I got a virusrack-a and a nordrack2. I like both from sound, but I don`t like the panel and os from the nord. Why don`t make a deal with clavia and develope a nordvirus. The sound from the nord and the features, the panel and os from the virusb. The second suggestion, according to virus tdm, is virusb vst2.0 . Did you ever tought of this ? nearlygodWouldn't it be great if the Mod Matrix had a "global/Single" setting like the user-definable knobs? At the moment I'm going through all my patches just assigning my Korg Kaoss pad, mostly to the same parameters..... would be good addition, no? Paul ----------------------------------------------------- Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukI do it always from scratch with the init patch . But if see anotherones sound i like i analyze it and try to use the tricks in my own ones . This can be very helpful to see what exactly makes a certain sound . The best way is to set one setting after the other to zero to see what it makes to the patch . Often there are a lot of settings which dont alter the sound obviously and are done to make subtile changes to the sound and only a few settings are giving the patch the real drive . You have to find this settings and analyze what they do for the sound and youll learn a lot for your own patches in future . Regards Oli Cam schrieb: >At 09:04 PM 2/9/00 -0800, you wrote: >>Do most of you build your Virus sounds from scratch? Or do you play with the factory sounds and tweak them a little and then save them that way? >> > >Almost all of the virus sounds that I use I create from scratch, starting with sound C127. Occasionally, if I find a sound on the net or something that catches my ear, I use that, but I always modify it quite a bit to make it fit the bill more. > >Cam > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the Proteus Techno ROM. Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download the MP3. http://216.71.56.251 I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? best, Rob ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM - PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________I'm back with a question to the Patchpoint page webmaster (Michael if my memory's good) : I can't access your site today, are you working on it or is it my browser filtering what I should see ? ____________________________ http://www.worldonline.fr/Yesssssssss. A man so dear my heart. Please tell me when your set will be ready for INFECTION :)) cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - Rob kicks ass, man. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Papen To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 16:11 pm Subject: Two Sounds instead of One List >I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b....need >to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: > >two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the Proteus Techno ROM. >Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download the MP3. >http://216.71.56.251 > >I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? > >best, > >Rob >___________________________________ >ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >Homepage: www.robpapen.com >E-mail: rob@robpapen.com > >What is new our coming out soon: > >- EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM > >- PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) > >- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) > >- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm > >___________________________________ > >Tel: 00-31 475410188 >Fax: 00-31 475410089 >___________________________________ > I most often create sounds from scratch, but I am surely not above modifying an existing patch. Both methods are useful. I actually initialized my A and B banks to the start patch. That way I am more prone to create from scratch. Though, since loading the new banks, I can't get myself to delete them. There are some really GOOD patches in there. I wish Access would allow me to dump them to bank C and D, or at least update the factory set to contain the new banks of patches. I like them better. If not, I will have to go through the hassle of saving my favorites to bank B, and reinitialize bank A for my patches, and room for new creations. I really would like both banks, though some of the new patches are too damn good to not have Access to... BTW: The new phaser goes along way when creating smooth pads. Damn that phaser is NICE... Rick >Do most of you build your Virus sounds from scratch? Or do you play with the factory sounds and tweak them a little and then save them that way? Yes Rob make a trance set !! :-) Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Rob Papen To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:13 AM Subject: Two Sounds instead of One List >I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: > >two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the Proteus Techno ROM. >Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download the MP3. >http://216.71.56.251 > >I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? > >best, > >Rob >___________________________________ >ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >Homepage: www.robpapen.com >E-mail: rob@robpapen.com > >What is new our coming out soon: > >- EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM > >- PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) > >- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) > >- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm > >___________________________________ > >Tel: 00-31 475410188 >Fax: 00-31 475410089 >___________________________________ > > as I«ve seen the fabulous Mr. Rob Papen hanging around on this list, i wonder if he could give us some hints about the art of programming sounds (I«m sure he«ll sell his signature sets anyway ;-) just 2 question: 1. how do I programme a good D'nB-style subbass...... 2. some advice for programming good pads? thanks a lot, Rob(ert)It's a pain, but I save them one at a time. That way I can load each one to whatever location I want. Also, as soon as I save a patch (dump out), I turn around and dump it back to the unit at a different location for a safety check. If is dumps correctly, I know the patch is good (saved). Unfortunately, I did this with a cool little freeware app on the PC. I have now (since my last dump) switched to Mac for music because I bought a Digi001 (killer piece of kit). Can any Mac users point me to a simple freeware Sysex utility? I just want to be able to dump single patches and entire banks to a file. I don't need anything fancy. Any help is appreciated... Rick another question: how can I save my own patches??? is there a way to verify them? thanx a lot Rob Robert Mirza-Zadeh wrote:On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Rick Reyes wrote: >I most often create sounds from scratch, but I am surely not above modifying an existing patch. Both methods are useful. I actually initialized my A and B banks to the start patch. That way I am more prone to create from scratch. Though, since loading the new banks, I can't get myself to delete them. > >There are some really GOOD patches in there. I wish Access would allow me to dump them to bank C and D, or at least update the factory set to contain the new banks of patches. I like them better. If not, I will have to go through the hassle of saving my favorites to bank B, and reinitialize bank A for my patches, and room for new creations. I really would like both banks, though some of the new patches are too damn good to not have Access to... > I would like it if we "voted" on which sounds we would like to have in the C and D banks(if they are to remain read-only). This way no space is wasted! :) My virus is always full of sounds that I can't bring myself to not have loaded up, while there are plenty of current factory sounds that I wouldn't mind replacing. -Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------BTW, That Trance MP3 has killer sounds. I love that Yaz like main patch. Love the drum sounds on that Proteus too. My next piece of gear will be a drum machine and I'm 90% certain I want the Jomox Xbase09. So I got drums on the brain lately and couldn't help noticing your drum sounds. I had to download your MP3 of the proteus after hearing your Trance MP3, and that is a nice sound set too. Maybe I should consider that as a drum module so I can gain a new synth module too hehe. ...naw I reallllly want that xbase09. :-) Anyway getting off subject. I totally love the sound of the patches. You know I've been eyeing the Waldorf Microwave XT for its nice trippy sounds, so I'll be curious to hear what you come up with since they don't have dealers in my area. Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Rob Papen To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:13 AM Subject: Two Sounds instead of One List >I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: > >two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the Proteus Techno ROM. >Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download the MP3. >http://216.71.56.251 > >I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? > >best, > >Rob >___________________________________ >ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >Homepage: www.robpapen.com >E-mail: rob@robpapen.com > >What is new our coming out soon: > >- EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM > >- PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) > >- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) > >- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm > >___________________________________ > >Tel: 00-31 475410188 >Fax: 00-31 475410089 >___________________________________ > > Kintama, I would prefer the Jomox Airbase99 (new model), because the drums are more tighter than the xbase's ones. However, the Airbase contains even more instruments and it is more flexible because of its lfo and so on. Okay, the Xbase has an intern stepsequencer...but the sound of the Airbase is the best Drumcomputers ever have had. regards nico Kintama wrote: > >BTW, That Trance MP3 has killer sounds. I love that Yaz like main patch. > >Love the drum sounds on that Proteus too. My next piece of gear will be a drum machine and I'm 90% certain I want the Jomox Xbase09. So I got drums on the brain lately and couldn't help noticing your drum sounds. > >I had to download your MP3 of the proteus after hearing your Trance MP3, and that is a nice sound set too. Maybe I should consider that as a drum module so I can gain a new synth module too hehe. ...naw I reallllly want that xbase09. :-) > >Anyway getting off subject. > >I totally love the sound of the patches. You know I've been eyeing the Waldorf Microwave XT for its nice trippy sounds, so I'll be curious to hear what you come up with since they don't have dealers in my area. > >Kintama > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rob Papen >To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:13 AM Subject: Two Sounds instead of One List > >>I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: >> >>two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the Proteus Techno ROM. >>Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download the MP3. >>http://216.71.56.251 >> >>I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? >> >>best, >> >>Rob >>___________________________________ >>ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >>Homepage: www.robpapen.com >>E-mail: rob@robpapen.com >> >>What is new our coming out soon: >> >>- EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM >> >>- PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) >> >>- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) >> >>- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm >> >>___________________________________ >> >>Tel: 00-31 475410188 >>Fax: 00-31 475410089 >>___________________________________ >> >> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Nico Grubert wrote: >Kintama, > >I would prefer the Jomox Airbase99 (new model), because the drums are more tighter than the xbase's ones. >However, the Airbase contains even more instruments and it is more flexible because of its lfo and so on. >Okay, the Xbase has an intern stepsequencer...but the sound of the Airbase is the best Drumcomputers ever have had. > do you know if the airbase has the "micro-sequences" feature which had been advertised as a possiblity when they first announced the airbase? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------Don't forget about the Electribe S. I can't wait for it to arrive. It's gonna be a killer little sampling drum box. I love the straight forward design, and synthesis of my Electribe ER-1. The S will be a great companion... Rick >Love the drum sounds on that Proteus too. My next piece of gear will be a drum machine and I'm 90% certain I want the Jomox Xbase09. So I got drums on the brain lately and couldn't help noticing your drum sounds. > >Kintama The Electribe S ? I only know both the Electribe R and A. And the R is really nice...it has not the tightest drums, but very percussiv for real pumpin, rockin percussiv techno. nico Rick Reyes wrote: > >Don't forget about the Electribe S. I can't wait for it to arrive. It's gonna be a killer little sampling drum box. I love the straight forward design, and synthesis of my Electribe ER-1. The S will be a great companion... > >Rick > >>Love the drum sounds on that Proteus too. My next piece of gear will be a drum machine and I'm 90% certain I want the Jomox Xbase09. So I got drums on the brain lately and couldn't help noticing your drum sounds. >> >>Kintama no I do not know, I only know the old Airbase ... but I guess, there is no sequencer in there. "robotfarm.com" wrote: > >On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Nico Grubert wrote: > >>Kintama, >> >>I would prefer the Jomox Airbase99 (new model), because the drums are more tighter than the xbase's ones. >>However, the Airbase contains even more instruments and it is more flexible because of its lfo and so on. >>Okay, the Xbase has an intern stepsequencer...but the sound of the Airbase is the best Drumcomputers ever have had. >> > >do you know if the airbase has the "micro-sequences" feature which had been advertised as a possiblity when they first announced the airbase? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Rick Reyes wrote: >Don't forget about the Electribe S. I can't wait for it to arrive. It's gonna be a killer little sampling drum box. I love the straight forward design, and synthesis of my Electribe ER-1. The S will be a great companion... > Agreed. I've been using the zoom sampletrak(probably the best $200(used) i've ever spent) but the addition of the xox style sequencer on the electribe s will be perfect! plus, can't you switch between play and record mode without stopping the sequencer on the current electribe-r? Also, does anyone know if you can turn off the delay on certain instruments? I was under the impression that if you used the delay it was on all the instruments. I really don't want delay on my kick drum... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ---------------------------------------------------------------------->Agreed. I've been using the zoom sampletrak(probably the best $200(used) i've ever spent) but the addition of the xox style sequencer on the electribe s will be perfect! plus, can't you switch between play and record mode without stopping the sequencer on the current electribe-r? I was wondering about the zoom sampletrak. What would say you like best about it? Does the smart media cards work good for a interface to get samples into it? >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ---------------------------------------------------------------------- also do you do php3 development? Christopher www.planetcha.com>aubrey, in my opinion, you can use virus patches for commercial use...imagine, for example you change the cutoff of the patch from value 68 to value 67 ... and now ? it is your patch! that is what i think. >regards >nico I agree 100%. Anyone who makes patches available via Internet shouldn't bother with any "copyright" type nonsense. Even if someone has a huge hit based around one of your sounds. As long as nobody is actually selling your patches as their own...>....but could anybody tell me how to load patches to desired programmes?....(I«ve created some patches on programmes 1-30 and i don«t want them to be overwritten...). Use CTRL / MIDI DUMP RX / ForceToEditBuf for individual sounds.How do most of get sounds in and out of the virus. I am still not down with the--patch from internet to virus thing. Id like to be! I use logic (if that helps) Are the patches that get sent MIDI, or SYSex? Thank you chris. --- Rick Reyes wrote: >It's a pain, but I save them one at a time. That way I can load each one to >whatever location I want. Also, as soon as I save a patch (dump out), I turn >around and dump it back to the unit at a different location for a safety >check. If is dumps correctly, I know the patch is good (saved). > >Unfortunately, I did this with a cool little freeware app on the PC. I have >now (since my last dump) switched to Mac for music because I bought a Digi001 (killer piece of kit). > >Can any Mac users point me to a simple freeware Sysex utility? I just want >to be able to dump single patches and entire banks to a file. I don't need >anything fancy. Any help is appreciated... > >Rick > > >another question: how can I save my own patches??? is there a way to verify >them? > >thanx a lot > >Rob > >Robert Mirza-Zadeh wrote: > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comOn Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Chris Jones wrote: >>Agreed. I've been using the zoom sampletrak(probably the best $200(used) i've ever spent) but the addition of the xox style sequencer on the electribe s will be perfect! plus, can't you switch between play and record mode without stopping the sequencer on the current electribe-r? > >I was wondering about the zoom sampletrak. What would say you like best about it? > For the money it can't be beat($200 used/$300 new). It has resampling through effects or the onboard sequencer. Great effects plus you can pass incoming instruments through the effects. Also, the zoom has a knob and a weird mod wheel type controller for messing with the effects in realtime. And for once I've found a "scratch" effect that is usefull(not for the intended use of making hip-hop "scratch" effects but instead for just general messing about with a sound. It will also do real-time time stretch and can sync up two beats(i don't use this much though). I've been tight on space so right now I've just got my virus hooked up to the sampletraks inputs and use the sampletrak headphone jack. A great combo. >Does the smart media cards work good for a interface to get samples into it? Pretty good. It'd be great if I had one of the interfaces between my computer and the smart media because then you can edit the samples on your computer and then load them into the sampletrak. The only drawback to the zoom is the sequencer. It doesn't hold a lot of "songs" (11?) and isn't a xox interface. > > >also do you do php3 development? > Yes, email me if you need some info!The servers where all my stuff is on are having some dns malfunctioning the last few weeks. New software was installed but it will take some time. If you can't reach it by http://virus.k29.nu reach it here : http://www.k29.nu/virus And i have your 14 patches now! i will listen to them. greetings, John Machielsen (not michael...haha. reinitialize your global memory man !) frederic.harster@worldonline.fr wrote: >I'm back with a question to the Patchpoint page webmaster (Michael if my memory's good) : I can't access your site today, are you working on it or is it my browser filtering what I should see ? > >____________________________ >http://www.worldonline.fr/>It's a pain, but I save them one at a time. That way I can load each one to >whatever location I want... ...then you can string the dumps together to form a MIDI file with one patch per bar, to be loaded to the Edit Buffer. Personally, I don't like loading complete banks when I know I'm only going to keep a few of the sounds.>some advice for programming good pads? Also ask Nico Herz...Yes, there will be the Electribe S (ES-1 I think). It was shown at NAMM.It is supposed to be available late spring. You can get info at www.harmonycentral.com in their namm report. It looks to be killer. Works just like the R but can hold 92 seconds mono/100 samples in memory. It has smart media, beat slicing, and expanded fx (you can set mix values for the effect section per part, but not the delay. It is global. ) lets not forget the great sequencer and motion sequence of knob movements. I am SOLD on this baby... >The Electribe S ? >I only know both the Electribe R and A. And the R is really nice...it has not the tightest drums, but very percussiv for real pumpin, rockin percussiv techno. > >nico > >Rick Reyes wrote:Rob, Please do...and if you can include some big euphoric pads to arpeggiate ill be a happy man! Warwick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Papen" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: Two Sounds instead of One List I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the Proteus Techno ROM. Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download the MP3. http://216.71.56.251 I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? best, Rob ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM - PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________Yes, you can toggle record without stopping the sequencer on the R. You cannot, however, set separate mix values per part for the delay. The delay on the S will work the same way, but the expanded FX section will allow for part mix levels. Since it is a sampler, you can resample with delay on the parts that you want delay, there may be another delay available in the part FX section as well. Rick xox style sequencer on >the electribe s will be perfect! plus, can't you switch between play and record mode without stopping the sequencer on the current electribe-r? > >Also, does anyone know if you can turn off the delay on certain instruments? I was under the impression that if you used the delay it was on all the instruments. I really don't want delay on my kick drum... Ok, i know this has been overdiscussed already. but i want a case-specific question on this matter. I have a VirusA and a QUIKLOK RStype desktop rack, 10 units high. the rack doesn't have any closures. it's just two connected poles, supporting on two sidepoles so to say. Looks like two "L" s interconnected. i want to rackmount my virus in this thing, but i'm wondering how much rackspace it's gonna consume. i again stress, that the audio and midi plugs extend over the rack, as there is no casing this is possible. how much units will the virus take ? 3, as i remember....or 4, due to the little swivvel it has on the front of the unit to the downside ? please reveal the truth to me. thanks, John MachielsenHey Access people , Somebody came up shortly with the idea of delay filters which sounded pretty cool to me . Another suggestion would be to make the delay color setting avaible as mod matrix destination . I see the difficulty of this cause delay is a "global" setting in multi single mode . But would there be a way maybe ....??? Oli>Another suggestion would be to make the delay color setting avaible as mod matrix >destination . what is delay color? -zsone thing I've been doing recently is to imagine the different sound shaping components of the Virus as separate entities. I don't see them as parts of a whole, but unique items that perform a specific task. So I'll combine these parts mentally for a while, then sit down and create the patch. Usually, this leads to something unique -- different than a usual synthy patch you may find/hear. The virus is beautiful in a Lego building block sort of way. -zs Oliver wrote: > >I do it always from scratch with the init patch . But if see anotherones sound i like >i analyze it and try to use the tricks in my own ones . This can be very helpful to see >what exactly makes a certain sound . The best way is to set one setting after the other to >zero to see what it makes to the patch . Often there are a lot of settings which dont alter >the sound obviously and are done to make subtile changes to the sound and only a few settings are giving the patch the real drive . You have to find this settings and analyze what they do for the sound and youll learn >a lot for your own patches in future . > >Regards >Oli > >Cam schrieb: > >>At 09:04 PM 2/9/00 -0800, you wrote: >>>Do most of you build your Virus sounds from scratch? Or do you play with the factory sounds and tweak them a little and then save them that way? >>> >> >>Almost all of the virus sounds that I use I create from scratch, starting with sound C127. Occasionally, if I find a sound on the net or something that catches my ear, I use that, but I always modify it quite a bit to make it fit the bill more. >> >>Cam >> >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|= -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================Well i love to [program my new virus b keyboard. But im really looking forward to the random path mode to create some craziness?? weld Zack Steinkamp wrote: >one thing I've been doing recently is to imagine the different sound shaping components of the Virus as separate entities. I don't see them as parts of a whole, but unique items that perform a specific task. > >So I'll combine these parts mentally for a while, then sit down and create the patch. > >Usually, this leads to something unique -- different than a usual synthy patch you may find/hear. > >The virus is beautiful in a Lego building block sort of way. > >-zs > >Oliver wrote: >> >>I do it always from scratch with the init patch . But if see anotherones sound i like >>i analyze it and try to use the tricks in my own ones . This can be very helpful to see >>what exactly makes a certain sound . The best way is to set one setting after the other to >>zero to see what it makes to the patch . Often there are a lot of settings which dont alter >>the sound obviously and are done to make subtile changes to the sound and only a few settings are giving the patch the real drive . You have to find this settings and analyze what they do for the sound and youll learn >>a lot for your own patches in future . >> >>Regards >>Oli >> >>Cam schrieb: >> >>>At 09:04 PM 2/9/00 -0800, you wrote: >>>>Do most of you build your Virus sounds from scratch? Or do you play with the factory sounds and tweak them a little and then save them that way? >>>> >>> >>>Almost all of the virus sounds that I use I create from scratch, starting with sound C127. Occasionally, if I find a sound on the net or something that catches my ear, I use that, but I always modify it quite a bit to make it fit the bill more. >>> >>>Cam >>> >>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|= > >-- >------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 >======================================================Oh , sorry i forgot to say that s a feature which is only avaible for the new virus . It changes the color of the delay ,dont know what this means exactly. I think it lets you set frequencies which respond on the delay but am not sure about it. Zack Steinkamp schrieb: >>Another suggestion would be to make the delay color setting avaible as mod matrix >>destination . > >what is delay color? > >-zsand your patches were added too, so you don't have to bother yourself. go check it out, any disagreement on sound placements or stuff, please mail me privately ok ? -john machielsen- frederic.harster@worldonline.fr wrote: >I'm back with a question to the Patchpoint page webmaster (Michael if my memory's good) : I can't access your site today, are you working on it or is it my browser filtering what I should see ? > >____________________________ >http://www.worldonline.fr/Yes i heard that Ed Rush/ optical uses Virus, judging by their releases i think they also use some kind of distortion pedal. Anyone heard Watermelon? don't be put off by the silly title, tune is wicked ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabe G To: Sent: 08 February 2000 20:25 Subject: Re: any Industrial/D&B/Hardcore virus users? >>Do we have any Industrial/D&B/Hardcore virus users around here who have their Virus sounds up on the net? Somebody I know is interested in hearing how Virus does this kind of sounds. I don't do >>Industrial/D&B/Hardcore so he didn't seem to convince that the Virus is capable of that when I showed it to him. Please send me your URLs. Thank you very much. > > >Tell your friend that Ed Ruch & Optical are rumored to use a virus... if he's a dnb guy that should convince him. > >-Gabe > the thing about this is that, ed rush/optical set up the label Virus Recordings so they would probably get one anyway. Yes, I've heard they do have one, and yeah I'd be really interested in knowing what they use. It's hard to say what they use on any track without asking them though. The thing I always hear they use is a Z1, also the track watermelon (good track) but it would be prolly 2 years old by now, so it's possible I guess, the virus synth existed back then. But anyway just some thoughts, I'm waiting for the virus B/kb to get here (australia) so I can try it out. Must be here by now, should visit some shops again craig -----Original Message----- From: mip [mailto:wai@tiptop.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2000 11:19 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: any Industrial/D&B/Hardcore virus users? Yes i heard that Ed Rush/ optical uses Virus, judging by their releases i think they also use some kind of distortion pedal. Anyone heard Watermelon? don't be put off by the silly title, tune is wicked ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabe G To: Sent: 08 February 2000 20:25 Subject: Re: any Industrial/D&B/Hardcore virus users? >>Do we have any Industrial/D&B/Hardcore virus users around here who have their Virus sounds up on the net? Somebody I know is interested in hearing how Virus does this kind of sounds. I don't do >>Industrial/D&B/Hardcore so he didn't seem to convince that the Virus is capable of that when I showed it to him. Please send me your URLs. Thank you very much. > > >Tell your friend that Ed Ruch & Optical are rumored to use a virus... if he's a dnb guy that should convince him. > >-Gabe > The Virus A should be the same as the Virus B which requires 5 spaces including an extra space for your plugs. I just racked my Virus B last Friday, and it is a total of 5 spaces. (4 spaces for the unit and 1 space for the plugs.) Rick >Ok, i know this has been overdiscussed already. but i want a case-specific question on this matter. > >I have a VirusA and a QUIKLOK RStype desktop rack, 10 units high. > >the rack doesn't have any closures. it's just two connected poles, supporting on two sidepoles >so to say. Looks like two "L" s interconnected. > >i want to rackmount my virus in this thing, but i'm wondering how much rackspace it's gonna consume. > I believe the delay color acts like a simple filter, with each progressive tap getting darker,etc. Rick >Oh , sorry i forgot to say that s a feature which is only avaible for the new virus . >It changes the color of the delay ,dont know what this means exactly. I think it lets you set frequencies which respond on the delay but am not sure about it. > >Zack Steinkamp schrieb: > >>>Another suggestion would be to make the delay color setting avaible as mod matrix >>>destination . >The Virus A should be the same as the Virus B which requires 5 spaces including an extra space for your plugs. I just racked my Virus B last Friday, and it is a total of 5 spaces. (4 spaces for the unit and 1 space for the plugs.) Um, maybe its just me but I found that my virus b took up slightly more than 5 spaces (5 and 1/3 to be exact) due to the angled bit at the bottom of the unit.I have sysex app! Do u want it? Rick Reyes wrote: >It's a pain, but I save them one at a time. That way I can load each one to whatever location I want. Also, as soon as I save a patch (dump out), I turn around and dump it back to the unit at a different location for a safety check. If is dumps correctly, I know the patch is good (saved). > >Unfortunately, I did this with a cool little freeware app on the PC. I have now (since my last dump) switched to Mac for music because I bought a Digi001 (killer piece of kit). > >Can any Mac users point me to a simple freeware Sysex utility? I just want to be able to dump single patches and entire banks to a file. I don't need anything fancy. Any help is appreciated... > >Rick > >another question: how can I save my own patches??? is there a way to verify >them? > >thanx a lot > >Rob > >Robert Mirza-Zadeh wrote:Hi Justin, [Keyboard magazine :] >ive always wondered about the quality of that magazine I bought a copy, it was quite interesting. Bad covers but that's Americans for you. Had a good article on chord arrangement for rock & pop styles, using alternating triads or alternating fourth-interval diads. Some other interesting stuff as well. >which ones would you prefer as far as electronic equipment is conserned? Steer clear of Future Music. It's a big sales spin that neglects most important info in favour of latest-product cheerleading. Cheers, ThomasIs the mode realistic to achieve from the Virus b/kb? bigw wrote: >Well i love to [program my new virus b keyboard. But im really looking forward to the random path mode to create some craziness?? weld<< I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? >> two words: fuck yeah! shawnWill banks C and D ever be accessible to burn (flash) your own patches on the Virus b/kb? "robotfarm.com" wrote: > >> > >I would like it if we "voted" on which sounds we would like to have in the C and D banks(if they are to remain read-only). This way no space is wasted! :) My virus is always full of sounds that I can't bring myself to not have loaded up, while there are plenty of current factory sounds that I wouldn't mind replacing. > >-Jack We could do a bit of reverse-engineering ourselves, to figure out the format of the flash bank updates from Access (they have MIDI files with just the Flash bank, do they not?). Then we could create our own! *** DISCLAIMER *** We'd best make double-damn sure we really have the format nailed down though, since messing with the Flash improperly could leave a Virus unbootable. anaya wrote: > >Will banks C and D ever be accessible to burn (flash) your own patches on the Virus b/kb? > >"robotfarm.com" wrote: > >> >>> >> >>I would like it if we "voted" on which sounds we would like to have in the C and D banks(if they are to remain read-only). This way no space is wasted! :) My virus is always full of sounds that I can't bring myself to not have loaded up, while there are plenty of current factory sounds that I wouldn't mind replacing. >> >>-Jack As far as I can recall, Access actually listed this feature as one of the features available in one of the upcoming OS... cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: anaya To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 09:24 am Subject: Banks C and D >Will banks C and D ever be accessible to burn (flash) your own patches on the >Virus b/kb? > > > >"robotfarm.com" wrote: > >> >>> >> >>I would like it if we "voted" on which sounds we would like to have in the C and D banks(if they are to remain read-only). This way no space is wasted! :) My virus is always full of sounds that I can't bring myself >>to not have loaded up, while there are plenty of current factory sounds that I wouldn't mind replacing. >> >>-Jack >> hahahahahahahahahahaha - I will rather wait for an official release from ACCESS. Even if it means I have to wait a bit, as far as I am concerned, Access has always responded very quickly with their new OS, so I will not be joining your 'experiment'. I feel my VIRUS-b is tooooooo valuable for this kind of 'action' just my 2c cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Magee To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 09:58 am Subject: Re: Banks C and D >We could do a bit of reverse-engineering ourselves, to figure out the format of the flash bank updates from Access (they have MIDI files with just the Flash bank, do they not?). Then we could create our own! > >*** DISCLAIMER *** >We'd best make double-damn sure we really have the format nailed down though, since messing with the Flash improperly could leave a Virus unbootable. > >anaya wrote: >> >>Will banks C and D ever be accessible to burn (flash) your own patches on the >>Virus b/kb? >> >>"robotfarm.com" wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>I would like it if we "voted" on which sounds we would like to have in the C and D banks(if they are to remain read-only). This way no space is wasted! :) My virus is always full of sounds that I can't bring myself >>>to not have loaded up, while there are plenty of current factory sounds >>>that I wouldn't mind replacing. >>> >>>-Jack .. or access could officially document the format of the second.mid file, so that it would be possible to program a small app which is able to exchange sounds. - Rudolf Russ Magee wrote: > >We could do a bit of reverse-engineering ourselves, to figure out the format of the flash bank updates from Access (they have MIDI files with just the Flash bank, do they not?). Then we could create our own!-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: ShawnClear@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 11 februari 2000 6:09 Onderwerp: Re: Two Sounds instead of One List |<< I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? >> | |two words: fuck yeah! | |shawn ??? Did I said something wrong? Rob PapenOn Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:01:25 +0100 "Rob Papen" wrote: >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: ShawnClear@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 11 februari 2000 6:09 >Onderwerp: Re: Two Sounds instead of One List > > >|<< I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? >> | >|two words: fuck yeah! >| >|shawn > > >??? >Did I said something wrong? > >Rob Papen Don't worry, Shawn said "yeah" - not "ya" ;-) ChristianCorrection, he said yeah! not Ye! :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Hofmann To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 12:08 pm Subject: Re: Mr. Shawn > >On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:01:25 +0100 >"Rob Papen" wrote: > >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>Van: ShawnClear@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 11 februari 2000 6:09 >>Onderwerp: Re: Two Sounds instead of One List >> >> >>|<< I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? >> | >>|two words: fuck yeah! >>| >>|shawn >> >> >>??? >>Did I said something wrong? >> >>Rob Papen > >Don't worry, Shawn said "yeah" - not "ya" ;-) > >ChristianThe Virus Minirack. Its a smaller, cheaper version of the Virus with less polyphony and power. ??? VIRUS MINIRACK??? Somethig like MICROMODULAR? ENVELOPE GENERATOR www.new.space.cz/envelope www.mp3.com/generator ------------------------- GEAR:PROPHECY WAVESTATION SR JD800 S760 SPECTRUMSYNTH K2000VP VIRUSHi list, -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Aubrey Kloppers Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: donderdag 10 februari 2000 15:34 Onderwerp: Re: Two Sounds instead of One List |Yesssssssss. A man so dear my heart. Please tell me when your set will be |ready for INFECTION :)) I need to finish the Techno ROM extension presets first (Proteus 2000 ). But I have got good news: Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com Does have the same type of sound (even better) of what you did hear from me. He does bring this Trance set out very soon. Because is from Belgium (with hot dance scene) I think this is really going to be hot. |cyber7 (Aubrey) |PS - Rob kicks ass, man. | :)) :) My favorite cartoons are still: Road Runner, Foghorn Leghorn (of topic?) Rob Ps. The trance set of mine I will make in a few month or the two sounds you did hear will be freebies soon. | |----- Original Message ----- |From: Rob Papen |To: |Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 16:11 pm |Subject: Two Sounds instead of One List | | |> I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus |b....need |> to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: |> |> two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the |> Proteus Techno ROM. |> Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download |> the MP3. |> http://216.71.56.251 |> |> I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? |> |> best, |> |> Rob |> ___________________________________ |> ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC |> Homepage: www.robpapen.com |> E-mail: rob@robpapen.com |> |> What is new our coming out soon: |> |> - EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM |> |> - PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) |> |> - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) |> |> - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm |> |> ___________________________________ |> |> Tel: 00-31 475410188 |> Fax: 00-31 475410089 |> ___________________________________ |> |> ||as I«ve seen the fabulous Mr. Rob Papen hanging around on this list, i wonder if |he could give us some hints about the art of programming sounds (I«m sure he«ll |sell his signature sets anyway ;-) :) You may call me Rob. I do not have the time for hints. I am sorry. I am also not that good in writing. |just 2 question: |1. how do I programme a good D'nB-style subbass...... |2. some advice for programming good pads? | |thanks a lot, | |Rob(ert) |Hi Rob >I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b ....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: two new trance sounds ... Now I'm really starting to get jealous of those b-extras! Just being infected is not quite enough - now you have to contract the more insidious strain... ;-)On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Rob Papen wrote: >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: ShawnClear@aol.com Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: vrijdag 11 februari 2000 6:09 >Onderwerp: Re: Two Sounds instead of One List > > >|<< I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? >> | >|two words: fuck yeah! >| >|shawn > > >??? >Did I said something wrong? > >Rob Papen > :) fuck yeah! == I am very pleased that you are releasing a trance set! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------I've looked at this some in the past - though, as usual, real work gets in the way, :( But it looks like all is needed is a binary diff between the flash-update dumbs and a "normal" bank dump. The differences should be: flash: ------------------------------------------------------- sys-ex to tell virus to accept a flash dump to bank c/d patch 0 . . . patch 127 sys-ex to finish -------------------------------------------------------- normal: -------------------------------------------------------- sys-ex to tell virus to recieve a bank dump patch 0 . . . patch 127 sys-ex to finish -------------------------------------------------------- Hopefully a little "binary cut-n-paste" would do it. I plan on just replacing one patch to start and see how it works out. It should be easy to replace one patch in the flash update midi file with a new one and then check that the file sizes are the same, etc. Note: when I refer to the flash updata midi file I of course mean the one that dumps the bank c/d sounds, NOT the one that dumbs the OS. The one that dumbs the OS should not be altered of course! :) On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Russ Magee wrote: >We could do a bit of reverse-engineering ourselves, to figure out the format of the flash bank updates from Access (they have MIDI files with just the Flash bank, do they not?). Then we could create our own! > >*** DISCLAIMER *** >We'd best make double-damn sure we really have the format nailed down though, since messing with the Flash improperly could leave a Virus unbootable. > >anaya wrote: >> >>Will banks C and D ever be accessible to burn (flash) your own patches on the Virus b/kb? >> >>"robotfarm.com" wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>I would like it if we "voted" on which sounds we would like to have in the C and D banks(if they are to remain read-only). This way no space is wasted! :) My virus is always full of sounds that I can't bring myself to not have loaded up, while there are plenty of current factory sounds that I wouldn't mind replacing. >>> >>>-Jack >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------the title isnt silly, its called watermelon because it samples herbie hancock's song "watermelon man". herbie hancock fucking rules. tom mip wrote: >Anyone heard Watermelon? >don't be put off by the silly title, tune is wickedOn Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Gabe wrote: >>The Virus A should be the same as the Virus B which requires 5 spaces including an extra space for your plugs. I just racked my Virus B last Friday, and it is a total of 5 spaces. (4 spaces for the unit and 1 space for the plugs.) > >Um, maybe its just me but I found that my virus b took up slightly more than 5 spaces (5 and 1/3 to be exact) due to the angled bit at the bottom of the unit. > To add to the confusion :) I was able to fit a 8 space mackie 1402 mixer "4" space virus b into a 12 space mixer case I don't think the 1402 is exactly 8 spaces but by using all right-angle connectors I was able to get it to work. a tight fit but it does work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------greetings from seattle, i'm blown away by my new red faced friend (b with 3.0b) and haven't started writing my own patches. yet. but do i understand that banks a & b are ram & c & d are flash & cannot be overwritten except by loading a file from access? thanks, John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comCorrect, but Access has mentioned the possibility of burning custom banks to C and D. I hope it becomes reality soon... Rick > >but do i understand that banks a & b are ram & c & d are flash & cannot be overwritten except by loading a file from access? > >thanks, >John>|two words: fuck yeah! >| >|shawn > >??? >Did I said something wrong? slang to English translation: "I would love it if you were to create such a thing!" awwwww hell yeah! zs-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Howard Scarr Aan: Access list Datum: vrijdag 11 februari 2000 17:15 Onderwerp: Re: Two Sounds instead of One List |Hi Rob | |> I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b |> ....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: |> two new trance sounds ... | |Now I'm really starting to get jealous of those b-extras! Just being |infected is not quite enough - now you have to contract the more insidious |strain... ;-) :) BTW Your patches are great Howard! Especially Movement and Kalimbam. Greetings, Rob | | | |idea or reality . great idea, know alot poeple who bout micro modulars, and turned into synthfreks and bought full blown modular weld weld Envelope Generator wrote: >The Virus Minirack. Its a smaller, cheaper version of the Virus with less polyphony and power. ??? > >VIRUS MINIRACK??? Somethig like MICROMODULAR? > >ENVELOPE GENERATOR >www.new.space.cz/envelope >www.mp3.com/generator >------------------------- >GEAR:PROPHECY WAVESTATION SR JD800 S760 SPECTRUMSYNTH K2000VP VIRUSwhere did you get it ? so we can all download it... -john machielsen- anaya wrote: >I have sysex app! Do u want it? > >Rick Reyes wrote: > >>It's a pain, but I save them one at a time. That way I can load each one to whatever location I want. Also, as soon as I save a patch (dump out), I turn around and dump it back to the unit at a different location for a safety check. If is dumps correctly, I know the patch is good (saved). >> >>Unfortunately, I did this with a cool little freeware app on the PC. I have now (since my last dump) switched to Mac for music because I bought a Digi001 (killer piece of kit). >> >>Can any Mac users point me to a simple freeware Sysex utility? I just want to be able to dump single patches and entire banks to a file. I don't need anything fancy. Any help is appreciated... >> >>Rick >> >>another question: how can I save my own patches??? is there a way to verify >>them? >> >>thanx a lot >> >>Rob >> >>Robert Mirza-Zadeh wrote:Go and make some Peru/Aurora style ambient sounds...go old skool synthie. i back-ordered some numbers of Interface (a dutch music/synth mag.) and in one there was an interview with Rob, who just had received a Virus back then. It was a cool thing to read. Rob, are the Peru and Aurora material still available ..and did you ever make a compilation album ? greetings, John Machielsen ps: trance rocks 2 !! Rob Papen wrote: >I mean this is really bad... I can't get my fingers of this Virus b....need to turn knobs...3 Oscillators...result: > >two new trance sounds you can hear as MP3 together with the drums of the Proteus Techno ROM. >Go to the Virus page and at the very low end of the page you can download the MP3. >http://216.71.56.251 > >I am really infected....maybe I should make a trance set? > >best, > >Rob >___________________________________ >ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >Homepage: www.robpapen.com >E-mail: rob@robpapen.com > >What is new our coming out soon: > >- EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM > >- PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) > >- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) > >- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm > >___________________________________ > >Tel: 00-31 475410188 >Fax: 00-31 475410089 >___________________________________At 6:26 PM -0600 on 10.02.2000 Rick Reyes wrote: I believe the delay color acts like a simple filter, with each progressive tap getting darker,etc. Well actually delay color is a bipolar parameter that acts as a high pass or a lopass filter, depending on which way you turn it. it affects the delay, meaning that each repeat is going through the filter, so the sound gets more filtered with every tap indeed. with a lopass filter this is very close to the lofi sound of a tape delay. with a hipass filter this is pretty much for sound design, I don't think this models anything that has been used in another way before... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good news indeed. say Rob, you made a new soundset for 1 bank using the Virus B. it says on your site i can order them online with creditcard at wizoo. i can't find them on wizoo.com though. any help anyone could give would be pleasant. -john machielsen-Which sample is that then? I love that tune ----- Original Message ----- From: death?!?! Becomes Her To: Sent: 11 February 2000 16:26 Subject: Re: any Industrial/D&B/Hardcore virus users? >the title isnt silly, its called watermelon because it samples herbie hancock's song "watermelon man". herbie hancock fucking rules. > >tom > >mip wrote: >>Anyone heard Watermelon? >>don't be put off by the silly title, tune is wicked i have finished another song http://luxx.ubikorp.com webb is a two step d n' b song with a little experimentation. please check it/them out and tell me what u think. i do remixes......do u think they put the z1 through the virus??? i deffinetely hear the z1 in alot of their new songs... do u think the virus can create the bassline in the locust remix???prototype was the label.i haven't heard watermelon. if it is half of what the locust remix is then it's gotta be what i call, gut wrenching!You know, I don't recall...? I'll place it on the list. John Machielsen wrote: >where did you get it ? > >so we can all download it... > >-john machielsen- > >anaya wrote: > >>I have sysex app! Do u want it? >> >>Rick Reyes wrote: >> >>>It's a pain, but I save them one at a time. That way I can load each one to whatever location I want. Also, as soon as I save a patch (dump out), I turn around and dump it back to the unit at a different location for a safety check. If is dumps correctly, I know the patch is good (saved). >>> >>>Unfortunately, I did this with a cool little freeware app on the PC. I have now (since my last dump) switched to Mac for music because I bought a Digi001 (killer piece of kit). >>> >>>Can any Mac users point me to a simple freeware Sysex utility? I just want to be able to dump single patches and entire banks to a file. I don't need anything fancy. Any help is appreciated... >>> >>>Rick >>> >>>another question: how can I save my own patches??? is there a way to verify >>>them? >>> >>>thanx a lot >>> >>>Rob >>> >>>Robert Mirza-Zadeh wrote:Can anyone use this? Cha Cha Cha! http://www.ioc.net/~sgrace/sysex/index.html SysEx Universal MIDI Librarian for Macintosh What Is SysEx? What Do I Use SysEx For? System Requirements Release History News Known Problems Download SysEx What Is SysEx? SysEx is a free MIDI librarian program for the Macintosh. SysEx can transmit and receive system exclusive (sysex) messages via MIDI and can save and load these messages to and from disk. It has the following features that (as far as I know) are unique: Ý SysEx has a 256K receive buffer. Bulk Sysex Utility (a commonly-used librarian program) has a 128K buffer, which isn't large enough for some sysex dumps. Ý SysEx has a "continuous receive" mode, allowing multiple sysex messages to be combined in a single file. This is useful on a device like the KORG Wavestation that can only send a performance bank as three component parts. Ý SysEx has a few special features to support KORG Wavestations and the Roland D-5/10/20/110 series. What Do I Use SysEx For? The MIDI specification allows manufacturers to define MIDI messages that are specific to a particular device or family of devices. These messages are called "system exclusive" (sysex) and are most often used to control the characteristics of the "sounds" (patches, performances, tones, etc.) made by a particular device. For example, let's say a particular message defines a piano sound on a Roland D-110. This message might also be valid for other Roland synths closely related to the D-110 but would be completely meaningless to any other device. Devices that support system exclusive messages allow such messages to be transmitted out the MIDI Out port and to be received via the MIDI In port. There are several reasons why you might want to use SysEx to receive these messages and/or transmit them back to the device: Ý You may acquire new sounds for a synth as a disk file. As long as the file consists of nothing but system exclusive messages you should be able to use SysEx to open it and send the contents to your device (but be sure to "back up" first as described below). Ý It's often a good idea to have a complete "backup" of all factory settings for a device. Many devices don't permanently store their factory defaults, so this data can be lost due to a dead battery, taking the device in for service, accidents, or loading different sounds. Ý If you program your own sounds you'll want to save them, for the reasons described above. System Requirements SysEx requires the following: Ý A Macintosh computer with a 68020, 68030, 68040, or PowerPC processor. Ý System 7.0 or greater (PowerPC-based systems require either the ObjectSupportLib shared library extension OR System 7.5 or greater). Ý Opcode Systems' OMS (version 1.2 or greater) OR a version of Mark of the Unicorn's FreeMIDI that include an OMS emulator. FreeMIDI versions 1.34 and 1.35 are known to work; version 1.4 does not. Release History Version 4.02 (April 1998) Ý Minor program and documentation changes to reflect FreeMIDI compatibility (as pointed out by Dave Bourke). Ý Additional documentation enhancements. Ý Inclusion of SysEx AutoTyper (a drag-and-drop utility to change generic system exclusive files into "SysEx" files) courtesy of Albert Potts III (based on the AutoTyper Engine by Daniel Azuma). Ý Improved About box, icons, and window backgrounds courtesy of Nathan Sheldon. Version 4.01 (February 1998) Ý Initial public release. News September 1999 As noted above, Mark of the Unicorn's FreeMIDI version 1.4 no longer includes an OMS emulator. If you use FreeMIDI 1.4 you won't be able to use SysEx unless you also install OMS. A user who just bought an Opcode MIDIport32 USB interface reported that his OMS-based freeware and shareware programs (including, but not limited to, SysEx) no longer work, although his Opcode software works fine. As far as I know the problem is specific to this user. He is contacting Opcode for more information. If you use a USB interface I'd appreciate knowing whether SysEx works in your configuration. Known Problems I've always intended that SysEx support as many MIDI devices as reasonably possible. However, I'm aware of the following problems that I intend to fix: Ý The Yamaha DX7 may send a few non-system exclusive bytes prior to the actual system exclusive data which SysEx doesn't filter out. These extra bytes make the dump unusable. Ý SysEx may have a problem with reliably receiving large dumps from the E-mu Morpheus (and possibly other similar E-mu devices). If you discover any other problems, please contact me with the details (see the e-mail link below). Thank you. Download SysEx Netscape Navigator/Communicator users should hold down the Option key while clicking on the file link below. Other browsers may allow you to just click on the link. If you click on the link and your browser displays a new page of what appears to be cryptic nonsense save the page as Text and drag the resulting text file to Stuffit Expander (which should do the rest). Download SysEx 4.02 (241K) Send me e-mail if you have questions or comments about SysEx or would like to be notified about new releases. Home Last Updated: October 3, 1999i`m using a PC never heard about "galaxy". What kind of software is this? If, I'm not mistaken, the Galaxy program works only on a MAc. It's a sound librarian editor. Robert Mirza-Zadeh wrote: >Name: MEMO 10/02/00 13:26:00 >MEMO 10/02/00 13:26:00 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >Encoding: 8bitAnyone got this sort of thing for PC? -----Original Message----- From: anaya [SMTP:monokrom@sirius.com] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:03 PM To: access Subject: SysEx Universal MIDI Librarian for Macintosh << File: index.html >> Can anyone use this? Cha Cha Cha! http://www.ioc.net/~sgrace/sysex/index.htmlHello, I have a couple of suggestions for improving the Virus B on possible future OS updates. First...I think it would be cool too see a selectable Envelope speed. Much as I like the fast envelopes...I oftentimes find myself wishing that you could extend them and make it slower; ie: Yamaha CS-15...envelope X 5. Also, being able to stack all available voices at once...it seems that the Virus B stops at 16. I know that if using the third and fourth OSC, the voice allocation is reduced by up to six notes; but perhaps the Virus could be taught to accept the command respectively, still allowing all the "available" voices to be stacked. Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Yea, by etc. I mean our brighter (hipass). I guess I should not have been in such a hurry. Whups, I did it again:-) > >At 6:26 PM -0600 on 10.02.2000 Rick Reyes wrote: >>I believe the delay color acts like a simple filter, with each progressive tap getting darker,etc. >> > > >Well actually delay color is a bipolar parameter that acts as a high pass or a lopass filter, depending on which way you turn it. > >it affects the delay, meaning that each repeat is going through the filter, so the sound gets more filtered with every tap indeed. with a lopass filter this is very close to the lofi sound of a tape delay. with a hipass filter this is pretty much for sound design, I don't think this models anything that has been used in another way before... > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------I have been looking at a VAS. Have checked out the Nova and Virus I am interested in comments on the Virus over the Nova. Also is there only Turn Key in the UK that you can get them. Whats the best price they are going for in the UK TAOn Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:35:13 +0000, brond wrote: >I have been looking at a VAS. >Have checked out the Nova and Virus And what do you think? >I am interested in comments on the Virus over the Nova. Really? Surely you would pick the one that *you* prefer, regardless of what we say? My own decision to go with the Virus was based on its smooth sound, superb filters, more knobs and greater clarity of use (to my mind). Mostly, I love those twin filters which give me more options to constantly change a sound during a performance than anything else. The Nova does score in some areas but not ones that were important to me. Your mileage may vary. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukthe bass in the locust remix is really nasty, it's a deep rollin bass filtered and distorted if that's any help, the bass in watermelon is different it starts off very smooth and as the song continues it gets really juicy and acidy, I've been working on some nasty bizness basslines, let me know I'll sort you out with some tracks Big Ups Android infected !!!what u think they use to get this sound?? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 10:38 PM Subject: Re: watermelon >the bass in the locust remix is really nasty, it's a deep rollin bass filtered and distorted if that's any help, the bass in watermelon is different it starts off very smooth and as the song continues it gets really >juicy and acidy, I've been working on >some nasty bizness basslines, let me know I'll sort you out with some tracks >Big Ups >Android >infected !!! Buy a Waldorf Pulse... brooks rongstad wrote: >Hello, > >Also, being able to stack all available voices at once...it seems that the Virus B stops at 16. I know that if using the third and fourth OSC, the voice allocation is reduced by up to six notes; but perhaps the Virus could be taught to accept the command respectively, still allowing all the "available" voices to be stacked. > >Brooks >______________________________________________________I have a Waldorf Pulse...and yes, it sizzles through the mix perfectly, but I still think it would be nice to do that on the Virus as well. Then it becomes polyphonic also... Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com I've heard all 3 tunes and it's difficult to compare the tunes in a sense. They sound completely different, it's definately worth checking out ----- Original Message ----- From: luxx To: access virus Sent: 12 February 2000 01:34 Subject: watermelon >do u think they put the z1 through the virus??? i deffinetely hear the z1 in alot of their new songs... >do u think the virus can create the bassline in the locust remix???prototype was the label.i haven't heard watermelon. if it is half of what the locust remix is then it's gotta be what i call, gut wrenching! > I got mine from Digital Village, i paid £975 for it. They don't do money back guarantee like Turnkey ----- Original Message ----- From: brond To: Sent: 12 February 2000 19:35 Subject: Virus B in UK >I have been looking at a VAS. >Have checked out the Nova and Virus > >I am interested in comments on the Virus over the Nova. > >Also is there only Turn Key in the UK that you can get them. Whats the best price they are going for in the UK > >TA > > I know that some people have had probs updating their Virus-b with Cubase. I am not sure what sequencer you are using... maybe you could try a few different ones. A friend of mine just used some shareware sequencer he found on the net... since Cubase didn't work for him. I am a Logic user =) Good Luck !!! >>>hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be thANKS<<Anyone got this sort of thing for PC? > >-----Original Message----- >From: anaya [SMTP:monokrom@sirius.com] >Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:03 PM To: access >Subject: SysEx Universal MIDI Librarian for Macintosh > ><< File: index.html >> Can anyone use this? > >Cha Cha Cha! > > >http://www.ioc.net/~sgrace/sysex/index.html > Attachment converted: f2000:README.TXT 1 (TEXT/hscd) (00005F85) Attachment converted: f2000:SYSEX.EXE (TEXT/hscd) (00005F86)please dont email attachments to the list jeesh weld Rick Reyes wrote: >Paddy, > >Try this one out. It's real simple. I mailed it to you from a mac (new studio machine). If there are any problems opening it, I will resend from my PC... > >rick > >>Anyone got this sort of thing for PC? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: anaya [SMTP:monokrom@sirius.com] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:03 PM >>To: access >>Subject: SysEx Universal MIDI Librarian for Macintosh >> >><< File: index.html >> Can anyone use this? >> >>Cha Cha Cha! >> >> >>http://www.ioc.net/~sgrace/sysex/index.html >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Name: README.TXT >README.TXT Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >Encoding: base64 > >Name: SYSEX.EXE >SYSEX.EXE Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >Encoding: base64OH SHIT! That was supposed to be private. I apologize to the list. Sorry... Rick >From: Rick Reyes >Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:11:16 -0600 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: SysEx Universal MIDI Librarian for Macintosh > >Paddy, > >Try this one out. It's real simple. I mailed it to you from a mac (new studio machine). If there are any problems opening it, I will resend from my PC... > >rickHello, My Virus b OS 3b won't send Lo page data in poly pressure when it sends Controller Dump even when my MIDI control pageB parameter is set to poly pressure. Is there anything I can do to fix that for now? Thanks norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comThanks...I'll try it out. Sorry you got in shit for this.... -----Original Message----- From: Rick Reyes [SMTP:supercow@swbell.net] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 1:11 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SysEx Universal MIDI Librarian for Macintosh << File: README.TXT >> << File: SYSEX.EXE >> Paddy, Try this one out. It's real simple. I mailed it to you from a mac (new studio machine). If there are any problems opening it, I will resend from my PC... rick >Anyone got this sort of thing for PC? > >-----Original Message----- >From: anaya [SMTP:monokrom@sirius.com] >Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 6:03 PM To: access >Subject: SysEx Universal MIDI Librarian for Macintosh > ><< File: index.html >> Can anyone use this? > >Cha Cha Cha! > > >http://www.ioc.net/~sgrace/sysex/index.html This happened to me today too, but on the Virus a, will there be a bugfix for Virus a, Christoph? I am running 2.52. While you are working on fixing this, why don't you go ahead and add the "Delay color" to the a as well...;-) how was Los Angeles, by the way? Any news from there? Did you buy any companies? any news on the Access helicopter plans? you know we are all dying to know...! At 7:47 PM -0500 on 13.02.2000 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: In einer eMail vom 08.02.00 20:49:35 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >>Occasionally I experience a sort of "meltdown" where the machine starts to make a constant "buzzing" sound (sounds like the oscillators >click >>ON with a sawtooth wave...it's that loud..) The only way I can stop it >is >>to turn the machine off. (....) Have your heard of this? > >Unfortunately, mine B has been doing exactly the same thing. >For the record I am running OS3.0a too. It has occurred with a couple different PC based sequencers and several different MIDI interfaces (MPU 401, Creative Lab's Sound Blaster MIDI joystick port, Key Electronic Midiator and a MOTU PC Express). It is also not a MIDI loop. > This bug should be fixed on OS 3.0 Revision b. Sorry to cause this trouble. -Christoph Kemper access music think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi virologists I've just posted a collection of 88 patches (OS 2.52 or higher) to Access, Canine and John Machielsen, to become available at their sites soon (I guess) as HS88.ZIP. Let me know if you like them. Of course I've included a free Access helicopter ;-) Cheers Howardhi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be thANKSI had the same problem.....I tried updating about 20 tomes and it failed somewhere towards the end of the second set of numbers....... One week later I tried again...exactly the same way...and it worked fine. Wish I could tell you why... Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: SLAK305@aol.com [SMTP:SLAK305@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 5:39 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 3.0 update hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be thANKSplease give me some hints on how to record mac speech internally... when i open protools it takes over the audio engine..? what to do? please helpevery time i send to the list i get a return message. it's probably happening to everyone p.s. if anyone knows the address to the head honcho please send this to him direct cause he/she may not see it in the list daemon@provi.de wrote: >|------------------------- Message log follows: -----------------------| | no valid recipients were found for this message | >|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | wolff@hanse-net.de - unknown user >|----------------------------------------------------------------------| German translation: >Sie haben Ihre eMail an die Adresse "wolff@hanse-net.de" gerichtet. Der hintere Teil der Adresse ("Domain"), "@hanse-net.de", ist gueltig, der Benutzernamen jedoch nicht. >Ueberpruefen Sie bitte insbesondere diesen Teil der eMail-Adresse! > >Sie erhalten im Anhang die ersten zehn Zeilen Ihrer Original-eMail zurueck. > >Mit freundlichen Gruessen, > >Point of Presence GmbH, Hamburg >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>From access-list-return-1303-wolff=hanse-net.de@teklab.com Mon Feb 14 04:18:09 2000 >Return-path: Envelope-to: wolff@hanse-net.de >Delivery-date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:18:09 +0100 Received: from w168.z206111199.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net ([206.111.199.168] helo=teklab.com) >by mail.provi.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12KC1Z-0003cL-00 >for wolff@hanse-net.de; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:18:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 11010 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 2000 03:21:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Received: (qmail 11003 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2000 03:21:03 -0000 Message-ID: <38A774FE.4FE0F455@gru.net> >Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:22:41 -0500 >From: luxx >Reply-To: luxx@gru.net >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: krz list , >access virus >Subject: o.t.[recording mac speech] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >please give me some hints on how to record mac speech internally... >when i open protools it takes over the audio engine..? >what to do? >please helpim using cakewalk proaudio 9 also when its says reading the counter never moves off of zero it gets to about 12 on my cakewalk then the error message comes up i dont know this nuts maybe my interfaceReakity!!! Check WALDORF/ACCESS forum on www.dancetech.com Anything new from Access at NAMM? From: humpa Date: 02-Feb-00 Will there be anything new from Access to show at NAMM This year? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- RE: Anything new from Access at NAMM? From: Angus Date: 02-Feb-00 Yes, the Virus Minirack. Its a smaller, cheaper version of the Virus with less polyphony and power. They also have a new controller for some old synth. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- RE: Anything new from Access at NAMM? From: R-Tek Date: 07-Feb-00 Virus minirack???????? :o))Yes, the OS dump seems to be very fussy. I could not get it to update on my Virus KB with EdiTrack Gold (my old Atari sequencer) and had to do it from Cubase VST on a friend's PC at about 80 bpm. On my Atari it would hang during block 150 of the first file no matter what speed I used. iinsectt wrote: > >I know that some people have had probs updating their Virus-b with Cubase. I am not sure what sequencer you are using... maybe you could try a few different ones. A friend of mine just used some shareware sequencer he found on the net... since Cubase didn't work for him. I am a Logic user =) > >Good Luck !!! > >>>>hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error >reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be thANKS<< >I know that some people have had probs updating their Virus-b with Cubase. I am not sure what sequencer you are using... maybe you could try a few different ones. A friend of mine just used some shareware sequencer he found on the net... since Cubase didn't work for him. I am a Logic user =) > >Good Luck !!! > >>>>hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error >reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be thANKS<<Shane, >I had a quick question about the Virus. Does that have an independent edit buffer for each part?? Meaning, can I edit a sound in part one (and not save it), then go to another part and edit that patch, and still go back to my edited part in part one without it switching back to the saved version of the sound in part one?I have been an original owner of the Virus since the release of the A model, and I now have the B. I have always used Cubase at 80 bpms, and have never had it hang on me this way. I strongly suggest trying this method until you get results. Yes, the OS dump seems to be very fussy. I could not get it to update on my Virus KB with EdiTrack Gold (my old Atari sequencer) and had to do it from Cubase VST on a friend's PC at about 80 bpm. On my Atari it would hang during block 150 of the first file no matter what speed I used. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Shane, I had a quick question about the Virus. Does that have an independent edit buffer for each part?? Meaning, can I edit a sound in part one (and not save it), then go to another part and edit that patch, and still go back to my edited part in part one without it switching back to the saved version of the sound in part one? I know my name isn't Shane, but I can anwer your question! Absolutely...YES!!! The cool thing about the Virus (AorB), is that you can jump around in multi-mode making subtle changes here and there...and you can even turn the unit off without saving, and it will still be there! This surprised me when I was first working on the A, but it sure was a pleasant surprise. The only catch is that you have to save each patch individually when the time comes...and then you have to save the Multi seperately as well. Unfortunately there is no save all function like on the Waldorf XT...that's a cool feature...but at least here, if you space out, and forget to save, and turn the unit off...you work will still be there in the morning! Hope this helps. Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com some excerpts from a manual concerning Bios-Update Problems with a PC: Problems are not caused by the unit but by the transmitting device. Solution 1: try another sequencer/applikation Solution 2: try a different Midi interface Solution 3: try a different sequencer/applikation with a different midi interface Cubase works most of the time depending on the version and interface Cakewalk works sometimes depending on the version and interface Logic works most of the time depending on the version and interface Media player works sometimes depending on the version and interface Freeloader works most of the time depending on the version and interface If none of this works... Try a different computer Though originally written for a different synth I think this can also be useful also for virus users ;-)) Regards Stefan -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Russ Magee An: access-list@teklab.com Datum: Montag, 14. Februar 2000 09:36 Betreff: Re: 3.0 update >Yes, the OS dump seems to be very fussy. I could not get it to update on my Virus KB with EdiTrack Gold (my old Atari sequencer) and had to do it from Cubase VST on a friend's PC at about 80 bpm. On my Atari it would hang during >block 150 of the first file no matter what speed I used. > >iinsectt wrote: >> >>I know that some people have had probs updating their Virus-b with Cubase. >>I am not sure what sequencer you are using... maybe you could try a few different ones. A friend of mine just used some shareware sequencer he found on the net... since Cubase didn't work for him. I am a Logic user =) >> >>Good Luck !!! >> >>>>>hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error >>reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be thANKS<<Yes, the OS dump seems to be very fussy. I could not get it to update on my Virus KB with EdiTrack Gold (my old Atari sequencer) and had to do it from Cubase VST on a friend's PC at about 80 bpm. On my Atari it would hang during block 150 of the first file no matter what speed I used. > This won't help people who don't use windows, but I got the O.S. to dump fine by using a utility on Rolands page which is meant to help in dumping their VS-880 OS. It is just a simple sys-ex player but it worked. Last time I used media player on WIN NT with great effect. Trying to use it under win98 did not work. Anyway, I'd try the roland tool. It is somewhere on their website. I don't have a URL but pretent you are trying to update a VS880 and you should run across it. Hope this help someone... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, brooks rongstad wrote: >Shane, >>I had a quick question about the Virus. Does that have an independent edit buffer for each part?? Meaning, can I edit a sound in part one (and not save it), then go to another part and edit that patch, and still go back to my edited part in part one without it switching back to the saved version of the sound in part one? > >I know my name isn't Shane, but I can anwer your question! Absolutely...YES!!! The cool thing about the Virus (AorB), is that you can jump around in multi-mode making subtle changes here and there...and you can even turn the unit off without saving, and it will still be there! This And, in my opinion, this is a VERY important feature. I spend many hours designing sounds in single mode but in reality the ones I actually use in a mix are the ones that are created while a sequence is running. If I could not edit all the multi-parts at once this would really affect the way I make music. Just a note to Access to let them know that this is an important feature to at least one other user and should be included in all future products... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ----------------------------------------------------------------------end You know Howard, at my site you can soon download them as singles. i'm still doubting about an archive of all patches in their original zip format.s... what i really want is to let users of my site create a "shopping-cart" with singles. then they can edit it...put in all the stuff they like (so i need audio samples too of all patches..) and then press a button and download a file which will put this completely unique bank of patches into your Virus... user-selectable-stuff. haha. i guess i need to talk to someone who can program CGI/PERL and ASP or something. it would be an advanced sounddiver-like serversided program..i guess this is impossible... i would really like a program on my pc which could do this... greetings, John Machielsen the Virus Patchpoint = http://virus.k29.nu Howard Scarr wrote: >Hi virologists > >I've just posted a collection of 88 patches (OS 2.52 or higher) to Access, Canine and John Machielsen, to become available at their sites soon (I guess) as HS88.ZIP. Let me know if you like them. > >Of course I've included a free Access helicopter ;-) > >Cheers >HowardShane Etter wrote: > >this question is for a friend. im not sure what the answer is... any ideas? > >>Shane, >>I had a quick question about the Virus. Does that have an independent edit buffer for each part?? Meaning, can I edit a sound in part one (and not save it), then go to another part and edit that patch, and still go back to my edited part in part one without it switching back to the saved version of the sound in part one? EEEEEYessssssss!The patch in a multi is always referring back to a single patch. So when editing a patch in multi mode, if you want it to stay the same (except for volume and efx, which are saved with the multi) you have to save the edited patch to one of the 254 spaces for singles. Knowing this, you can edit a part, switch to another part, and not have the edited part change (this is what you asked i think). However, when you switch do another multi the part will go back to whatever that particular patch was last saved as. Peaceout, Peter ------Original Message------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Wessels To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: February 14, 2000 6:19:53 PM GMT Subject: Re: multi part edit... Shane Etter wrote: > >this question is for a friend. im not sure what the answer is... any ideas? > >>Shane, >>I had a quick question about the Virus. Does that have an independent edit buffer for each part?? Meaning, can I edit a sound in part one (and not save it), then go to another part and edit that patch, and still go back to my edited part in part one without it switching back to the saved version of the sound in part one? EEEEEYessssssss! ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comit's almost always the midi interface IMHO craig -----Original Message----- From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2000 1:51 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 3.0 update In einer eMail vom 14.02.00 02:40:09 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be It's the sequencer that fails. -ChristophHi, thank you for sharing the problem. I had the same trouble trying to update my Virus b OS. Apparently there are quite a few Windows configurations that cause trouble when trying to play the sysex update file to the Virus. My Win98 system even crashes when playing the file, though took every bit of precaution. I eventually succeeded by creating a new hard disk partition with nothing on it but Win98 and my sequencer Cubase. It worked! I hope I was able to help cheers Jakob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 2:39 AM Subject: Re: 3.0 update >hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be thANKSHi John >what i really want is to let users of my site create a "shopping-cart" with singles. Then they can edit it...put in all the stuff they like (so i need audio samples too of all patches..) and then press a button and download a file which will put this completely unique bank of patches into your Virus... I really don't see the point of this idea. People will not take the time online (especially in Europe) to check out mp3s or streamed audio or whatever for *individual* patches, and will certainly not want their Virus to be updated online - when they can download a whole bunch of patches and sort out the best ones offline. They probably wouldn't bother - I certainly wouldn't. Ask yourself whether this project, however interesting an HTML/Java excercise it might be, would actually fulfill a need... Just my opinion. Howardi had the same problem with cubase but for my surprise windows media player worked fine...maybe it'll work for you to. On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 Woodcroft@ali.com.au wrote: >it's almost always the midi interface IMHO > >craig > >-----Original Message----- >From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2000 1:51 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: 3.0 update > > >In einer eMail vom 14.02.00 02:40:09 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be > > > >It's the sequencer that fails. > >-Christoph I disagree with Howard. This _will be_ an extremely good idea, particularly as Europe wakes up to the Internet revolution during the next two years and invests in more bandwidth. I know that connectivity in Europe is *shite* ... but that will change. Those of us in the USA who can get permanent 1Mbps connections (DSL/Cable) for less than $50 per month can already use what you propose ... and painlessly to boot. To preview sounds online will be *expected* in the next year or so -- so stay ahead of the curve. I would really enjoy being able to dump a chunk of sounds into my Virus that I've already previewed without having to go through the pains of loading them one by one. More Bandwidth! zs >>what i really want is to let users of my site create a "shopping-cart" with singles. Then they can edit it...put in all the stuff they like (so i need audio samples too of all patches..) and then press a button and download a file which will put this completely unique bank of patches into your Virus... > >I really don't see the point of this idea. People will not take the time online (especially in Europe) to check out mp3s or streamed audio or whatever for *individual* patches, and will certainly not want their Virus to be updated online - when they can download a whole bunch of patches and sort out the best ones offline. They probably wouldn't bother - I certainly wouldn't. > >Ask yourself whether this project, however interesting an HTML/Java excercise it might be, would actually fulfill a need...>This _will be_ an extremely good idea, particularly as Europe wakes up to the Internet revolution during the next two years and invests in more bandwidth. I know that connectivity in Europe is *shite* ... but that will change. Hey please... some of us are on T1/LAN connection already... it's not like we're in the jungle or so. :-))) An example: LAN connection in Belgium: flat rate of about 35 USD/month. Only limitation is 2Gb download per week, but I'm sure most of us can live with that. ;-) I like the idea of listening to patches before downloading. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysThis blaming the sequencer seems strange to me -- for instance, the old Atari ST's MIDI interface is supposed to be one of the most reliable -- many musicians still swear by their Atari sequencers as still having a more solid timing than PC platforms. If the OS upgrade is a truly compliant standard MIDI file why shouldn't it work on more sequencers? (I tried the update from my Atari at both 60 and 120bpm, so a MIDI overrun doesn't seem to be the problem) Just nit picking 8-). -Russ Woodcroft@ali.com.au wrote: > >it's almost always the midi interface IMHO > >craig > >-----Original Message----- >From: CKe9644719@aol.com [mailto:CKe9644719@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2000 1:51 >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: 3.0 update > >In einer eMail vom 14.02.00 02:40:09 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>hi all i still cannot update my virus at all now its giving me an error reception failed missed block what does this mean ive tried everything nothing works i have my bpm at 60 so its not that what can it be > > > >It's the sequencer that fails. > >-Christoph Hi Russ, >If the OS upgrade is a truly compliant standard MIDI file why shouldn't it work on more sequencers? SysEx is a standard data type for MIDI files. Speed of transmission should not be an issue if the playback BPM is low. The Virus OS file has lots of SysEx data, but that breaks no standard. We see lots of difficulty with this very simple issue. Obviously many MIDI interfaces or sequencers are seriously non-functional. No use complaining here. Find the problem at the manufacturer/ dealer and demand they make the product work. Otherwise collect your refund and buy a better one. Cheers, ThomasThis would be especially cool if we could have them burned into the C and D banks... cam >I would really enjoy being able to dump a chunk of sounds into my Virus that I've already previewed without having to go through the pains of loading them one by one. > >More Bandwidth! >zs +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=Ohhhhh Yessssss ! Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Cam To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:31 PM Subject: Re: the virus patchpoint site ..was Re: HS Sounds >This would be especially cool if we could have them burned into the C and D banks... > >cam > >>I would really enjoy being able to dump a chunk of sounds into my Virus that I've already previewed without having to go through the pains of loading them one by one. >> >>More Bandwidth! >>zs > > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|= > Hi! Thanks for all the help I got with my virus and the VST studio driver! I would like to ask a couple of more questions: 1. Are there any generic way on how to use a studio driver? What I mean with this is, is it ok to chose one part on track 4 and let it use the sound 'Infected' with volume 75 and then later in the song let track 4 use the sound 'Virus' with vol 127? Or should I use the studio driver to set a sound for a whole track without any changes within the track? 2. How do I set the amount of delay for each sound and/or track? 3. I got my Virus connected correctly to my computer with VST but still the Virus doesn't set the clock to the same bpm as the sequencer? Any help on this? 4. What do I use to record knobsettings throughout the song? For example making some sweeps with the cutoff and resonance? Should I use a mixermap? Thanks! torsten edwinson . creative developer p r o j e c t o r p n m a b . karlavŠgen 58 . 114 49 stockholm phone +46 8 562 15 446 fax +46 8 562 15 401 cellular +46 70 237 237 3 torsten@projector.se . http://www.projector.seMy idea exactly guys. But the problem right now is, that i don;t know enough of programming and stuff to make this possible. let's first see how the Patchpoint will go and play out for the coming time. wooh, nice to have some support. -john machielsen- Kintama wrote: >Ohhhhh Yessssss ! > >Kintama >-----Original Message----- >From: Cam >To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:31 PM >Subject: Re: the virus patchpoint site ..was Re: HS Sounds > >>This would be especially cool if we could have them burned into the C and D banks... >> >>cam >> >>>I would really enjoy being able to dump a chunk of sounds into my Virus that I've already previewed without having to go through the pains of loading them one by one. >>> >>>More Bandwidth! >>>zs >> >> >> >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|= >> Hallo everyone. I have just completed a page for the VIRUS-b (And to a certain extend for the VIRUS-a and KB). The page is at: http://go.to/cyber7 (If you do NOT see the 'download' button on the left, please re-load your page, or emty your cache dir.) You may ask yourself, why another VIRUS page? It is due to the fact that Cakewalk is a bit of a speciality for me. I love the product and once figured out (AND patched correctly:)) I find it is by far more stable than any other product that I have seen or worked with. It is easier to update the page, than to rely on other people to update it for me. Please feel free to 'suck' the info off the page and use on your own... What is new on this page, WELLLL first of all, for those of you suffering with the ACCESS release of OS3.0b (To get it loaded), I have created a SINGLE SYX DUMP. Yes, that's right a 500kb (Zipped to =/-140k) sysex dump. Cakewalk loves this stuff :) and NEVER fails with this dump. So, try it out. Then, second of all, I am busy writing a Cakewalk panel (OH, I hear 'ye go, not anotherone) but it is not just a panel, it is part of a WIN98 editor I am busy developing. The reason I release it first as a panel, is to see if anyone would like a feature left off the panel. Eventually, I will write a 'random-patch-generator' for the VIRUS, with certain parameters that you will be able to set in advance. This will allow you to eventually create similar sounding or functioning patches. I am also thinking of generating a full 128 patches with everyone an extention of a pre-defined acronymn ie, the RP you see at the end of Rob's patches. Then lastly, it takes less than one meg (1mb) to load the ENTIRE site (including ALL the downloads and GFX that you normally would not look at). So, I have realy tried to make it as easy to get toÊfrom your country :)) Well, enjoy it, and I will only carry on with added features if people ontact me and ask me for the feature, else, stay well. ******************************************** - Aubrey KloppersÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ - systems@biblesociety.co.zaÊ - Cape Town, South AfricaÊÊÊÊÊ - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 ********************************************* In a message dated 2/14/00 3:45:58 PM, hscarr@csi.com writes: >Ask yourself whether this project, however interesting an HTML/Java excercise it might be, would actually fulfill a need... I personally think it's a great idea. I gate having to sort through a whole bank of sounds that are mostly filler just to find the gems. This would provide an easy way for people to take just what they needed...I have found that cakewalk will introduce a delay while sending sysex packets. The number of bytes can be set by adjusting 'SysexSendPacketSize' in one of the INI files in the Cakewalk directrory. This delay caused errors when downloading OS with a Motu as it terminated the sysex packets during the delay. Hope this info helps other users with similar setups.trevorl skriver: >I have found that cakewalk will introduce a delay while sending sysex packets. The number of bytes can be set by adjusting 'SysexSendPacketSize' in one of the INI files in the Cakewalk directrory. This delay caused errors when downloading OS with a Motu as it terminated the sysex packets during the delay. Hope this info helps other users with similar setups. Ohh you are the man!! thanks alot!!! Jesper! -- http://www.im-online.dk http://www.musikskolen.dk http://www.geneticlight.dkJesper, if you have a VIRUS-b, you don't have to hassle with setting any values in CPW, just get the full dump (One single SYSEX) from http://go.to/cyber7 At the same time, please can someone send me a complete dump for 2.52 for the VIRUS-a (Maybe you, Trevor?). This will assist ANYONE who has problems with CWP and SYSEX dumps. I will post this on the cyber7 webpage aswelll... Cheers cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - Maybe we should ask ACCESS to always bundle the OSDUMP as one single dump, and not as the 256 dumps currently bundled with the OS releases. ----- Original Message ----- From: eSPARk - Athom / Nature Freaks To: Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 16:24 pm Subject: Re: OS Loading and Cakewalk >trevorl skriver: > >>I have found that cakewalk will introduce a delay while sending sysex packets. The number of bytes can be set by adjusting 'SysexSendPacketSize' >>in one of the INI files in the Cakewalk directrory. This delay caused errors when downloading OS with a Motu as it terminated the sysex packets >>during the delay. Hope this info helps other users with similar setups. > >Ohh you are the man!! thanks alot!!! > >Jesper! >-- >http://www.im-online.dk >http://www.musikskolen.dk >http://www.geneticlight.dk > OK - looks like I was wrong on this point! The interest is there. >>Ask yourself whether this project, however interesting an HTML/Java excercise it might be, would actually fulfill a need... >I personally think it's a great idea. I hate having to sort through a whole >bank of sounds that are mostly filler just to find the gems. This would provide an easy way for people to take just what they needed... Just my 4331 Zloty: I don't want to read lots of subjective descriptions to preselect patches I'm going to give a listen to at all, then assume the audio snippet really shows what each patch is capable of. I like to sort out patches by playing them myself. Now if there was an online Virus which accepts MIDI and streams the audio back to me, with very little latency, I might be interested. Points to future online music production - a sort of "Reason Online"? For now, I think one-sound-per-bar MIDI files are most effective - just set playback to 30bpm and run through them all...Aubrey Kloppers skriver: >Jesper, if you have a VIRUS-b, you don't have to hassle with setting any values in CPW, just get the full dump (One single SYSEX) from http://go.to/cyber7 But I'm affraid I dont have a Virus-b, I have the ORGINAL! :o) haha! >PS - Maybe we should ask ACCESS to always bundle the OSDUMP as one single dump, and not as the 256 dumps currently bundled with the OS releases. yes this could maybe be a way to get around the problem.. ? Jesper! -- http://www.im-online.dk http://www.geneticlight.dkAt 8:35 AM -0600 on 14.02.2000 brooks rongstad wrote: comes...and then you have to save the Multi seperately as well. Unfortunately there is no save all function like on the Waldorf XT...that's a cool feature...but at least here, if you space out, and forget to save, and turn the unit off...you work will still be there in the morning! Hope this helps. Brooks Try this: hold the STORE button, the press "MULTI" and "SINGLE" simultaneously, (all this while in Multisingle mode): This saves the entire arrangement in one pass. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. but, how to pronounce dot eu? http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >3. I got my Virus connected correctly to my computer with VST but >still the Virus doesn't set the clock to the same bpm as the sequencer? Any help on this? Have you set the VST to send midi clock to the appropriate midi port? Setting can be found from Synchronization-tablet (somewhere on the menus, can't remember nor check right now). Is Virus set to receive midi-clock automatically? This setting is somewhere in the control-section. >4. What do I use to record knobsettings throughout the song? For example >making some sweeps with the cutoff and resonance? Should I use a mixermap? I tend to record them straight to a track in VST (just hit 'record' and twiddle). No need to hazzle with any mixermaps or suchlike, I think. Hope that was of some help. Regards, - janne kaipainen - jatka@cc.jyu.fiAgreed, I hate this too. Especially since there is no easy means of storage. I have been meaning to do this with my MWXT for a year now. It's just inconvenient, time consuming, and a pain in the ass... Rick > >I personally think it's a great idea. I gate having to sort through a whole >bank of sounds that are mostly filler just to find the gems. This would provide an easy way for people to take just what they needed...At 08:35 14.02.00 CST, you wrote: >The only catch is that you have to save each patch individually when the time comes...and then you have to save the Multi seperately as well. Unfortunately there is no save all function like on the Waldorf XT...that's a cool feature... Yes, it's a cool feature indeed! ...and of course the virus has also such a function :) In Multi-Single-Mode or Multi-Mode, press AND HOLD the [Store]-Key and press both [Multi] and [Single]-Keys simultanously: Now all EDITED Single-Buffers are stored to their original locations (f.e. an edited "a0 Overture CK" is stored to A0) with two exceptions: 1) All edited sounds from the C and D-Bank (ROM) are NOT stored, (since sound-storage to ROM is not possible) - so please use only sounds from Bank A or B when using this function. 2) When at least two editbuffers are from the same memory-location (f.e. on part1 you have an edited "a0 Overture CK" and on part5 there is ANOTHER EDITED "a0 Overture CK" sound - and they are edited in different values) they will NOT be stored, because the virus would have to store TWO DIFFERENT versions of the sound to ONE memory-location (i.e. A0). But it works, when you only edited the sound on ONE part (f.e. on part1, you have an edited "a0 Overture CK" and the sound on part5 is a NOT edited "A0 Overture CK"). But keep in mind, that the new version of the sound is now taking effect on the other part(s)! (So part5 now sounds different too!) - (you may use this behaviour, when programming stacked sounds - but we also have this nice UNISON-Mode! So you should use this, instead of stacking the same sound on several parts). (Remember to store the Multi-Edit-Buffer, it's not stored with this function). >Hope this helps Hope this feature helps. All of you virus A users may also use it, since I programmed this very long ago. Joerg Meissner access-music --->Now if there was an online Virus which accepts MIDI and streams the audio back to me, with very little latency, I might be interested. Points to future online music production - a sort of "Reason Online"? The following applies to PC's only; I don't know how this would work on a Mac: Hmm, I don't think it would be too hard to send the midi data from the www-page straight to the virus; thus you could select the patch from the www-page, get it sent automatically to sigle edit buffer, and play and test it. And then you could of course save it, if desired. Only problem is that the browser (and computer) should be set to play all midi files to the midi port (and midi channel) to which the Virus is connected. Default port selection can't be done by the www-page but should be set on Win9x 'midi mapper' software or suchlike, I think. The midi channel, on the other hand, could be a parameter which one could set on the www-pages when entering the sound section. Then a small server-side script (perl would do well) would be needed to change the midi channel on the .mid file before sending through the net to the receiving computer. I have no exact knowledge on .mid files, but modifying the midi channel doesn't sound too hard. A few difficulties, but it would be quite a nice way to check out new patches, I think. Hmm, and then there are security issues to think.. What if some evil www-page autoplays a .mid-file containing more or less random sysex data? The data would get sent straight to virus; is virus vulnerable to this kinds of things? Probably not, but I don't know. Just thinking aloud, - janne kaipainen - jatka@cc.jyu.fiAnother cool idea for this project would be that it notes how many times a patch was downloaded so we can see what the best ones are. And potentially it would save "kintama's favorite bank a,b,c,d" so other people could see what I consider a great bank. That way others could just start with someone elses favorite banks to get them going fast and easy. Have Fun, Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Howard Scarr To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:29 AM Subject: Re: the virus patchpoint site ..was Re: HS Sounds >OK - looks like I was wrong on this point! The interest is there. > >>>Ask yourself whether this project, however interesting an HTML/Java excercise it might be, would actually fulfill a need... >>I personally think it's a great idea. I hate having to sort through a >whole >>bank of sounds that are mostly filler just to find the gems. This would provide an easy way for people to take just what they needed... > >Just my 4331 Zloty: >I don't want to read lots of subjective descriptions to preselect patches I'm going to give a listen to at all, then assume the audio snippet really shows what each patch is capable of. I like to sort out patches by playing them myself. > >Now if there was an online Virus which accepts MIDI and streams the audio back to me, with very little latency, I might be interested. Points to future online music production - a sort of "Reason Online"? > >For now, I think one-sound-per-bar MIDI files are most effective - just set playback to 30bpm and run through them all... > > >I tend to record them straight to a track in VST (just hit 'record' and twiddle). No need to hazzle with any mixermaps or suchlike, I think. I prefer to record them into a seperate track than the actual note data... this makes it easier to edit each part while muting the other. You just have to set both tracks to the same midi channel. cam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=Yes, now i got some tongues wiggling ...haha finallyt. but as i stated before I CANT DO THIS ALONE. i need someone with greater database/php knowledge than i currently have myself. plus we need to figure out how to make a "cart" to contain all your selected sounds..probably by a cookie and javascript.... but then the hardest part...the combining of all these sounds in one bank file...or as another option the one-sound-per-bar format Howard was talking about, which i like also. regards, John Machielsen Kintama wrote: >Another cool idea for this project would be that it notes how many times a patch was downloaded so we can see what the best ones are. And potentially it would save "kintama's favorite bank a,b,c,d" so other people could see what I consider a great bank. That way others could just start with someone elses favorite banks to get them going fast and easy. > >Have Fun, >Kintama > >-----Original Message----- >From: Howard Scarr >To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:29 AM Subject: Re: the virus patchpoint site ..was Re: HS Sounds > >>OK - looks like I was wrong on this point! The interest is there. >> >>>>Ask yourself whether this project, however interesting an HTML/Java excercise it might be, would actually fulfill a need... >>>I personally think it's a great idea. I hate having to sort through a >>whole >>>bank of sounds that are mostly filler just to find the gems. This would provide an easy way for people to take just what they needed... >> >>Just my 4331 Zloty: >>I don't want to read lots of subjective descriptions to preselect patches I'm going to give a listen to at all, then assume the audio snippet really shows what each patch is capable of. I like to sort out patches by playing them myself. >> >>Now if there was an online Virus which accepts MIDI and streams the audio back to me, with very little latency, I might be interested. Points to future online music production - a sort of "Reason Online"? >> >>For now, I think one-sound-per-bar MIDI files are most effective - just set playback to 30bpm and run through them all... >> >> Kick ASS!, I am looking forward to it. chris --- TomShear@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 2/14/00 3:45:58 PM, hscarr@csi.com writes: > >>Ask yourself whether this project, however interesting an HTML/Java excercise it might be, would actually fulfill a need... > >I personally think it's a great idea. I gate having to sort through a whole >bank of sounds that are mostly filler just to find the gems. This would >provide an easy way for people to take just what they needed... > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comtesthy. first of all, let me introduce myself. audio engineer by profession, i've restarted making some music using something else tahn my ptools. so, since i've always liked analog synth soundsn 'specially the "growling" ones, i decided to go to my local music store and get infected. well, for the last three days my girlfriend hasn't seen a lot of my, instead i just go on screwing buttons ÉÉÉ not really beeing into fabricating synth sounds (i usually use my ptools for that) and having very little knowledge about synthesis in general, i'm having quite some hard fun time experimenting. so here my request/question? how many voices does the virus kb Version 3.0 really have ? i've been reading about 16 and 24 ÉÉ can i find a detailed parameter settings description for the patches used in version 3? i allready d/l the excel spreadsheet containing the ptach names and their classification É having a list of the settings would really help me understand whats going on ÉÉ how about using mixermaps to see the values for each setting, is that possible? i usually use cubase for my midi junk well, i think that's it - at least for today tahnx in advance - and let the infection grow eric p.s. i'm living in paris/france>I have found that cakewalk will introduce a delay while sending sysex packets. The number of bytes can be set by adjusting 'SysexSendPacketSize' SysexFuckupSize? I just love those settings which have no other purpose than to break functionality in certain situations. >This delay caused errors when downloading OS with a Motu as it terminated the sysex packets during the delay. Helicopter ejection seats? Cheers, Thomasi am about to convert my songs to mp3 what kbps should i t if i wanna go lofi for a speedy download?? but i dont want them to sound like total shizt either thank you.To be blunt: Are bands like Crystal Method and Chemical Brothers doing their work with equipment like an Acess Virus and Nord Lead synths? Or is it a combo of old school Junos and modern equipment? I can't figure out if Chemical Brothers are getting most of the dirty vintage sounds from old equipment or (more than likely) the sampling and re-sampling of sounds? I'm hooked on the whole break beat thing. For a while I was more Trance sounding, but I'm shifting a little. I just wanna make sure I'm on the right path.. I have a Juno 60, Access Virus, Nord Lead 2, A3000, and an Electribe-R. I'm influenced by many different people from Moby, Juno Reactor, Chemical Brothers, Red Snapper, and I try to keep my edge on other types of music to bring new elements inbound to my style..but I'm not a pro yet. Thanks, Markhi, << I'm hooked on the whole break beat thing. For a while I was more Trance sounding, but I'm shifting a little. I just wanna make sure I'm on the right path.. I have a Juno 60, Access Virus, Nord Lead 2, A3000, and an Electribe-R. I'm influenced by many different people from Moby, Juno Reactor, Chemical Brothers, Red Snapper, and I try to keep my edge on other types of music to bring new elements inbound to my style..but I'm not a pro yet. >> The question is not what they use but what you can use to recreate their sounds, and gasp, create your own. Shawn shawnclear@aol.comi was on stage before a chemical bros. show before i got heavily into making music.. but i did see a juno with some kind of peddle thing duct taped to the top. i asked a guy that was with them about it and he said that is what they use for their disco wham(or something like that). in front of that was one of those old timer mod keyboards.wires coming out and going in all over the damn thing... then i saw a bunch of samplers and mixers but that is the only thing i remember. oh and 1 of them is really tall. i only new one song back then. now owning 2 albums 1 which is really badd arse. i wish i would have spoken with them and pulled on their nuts a little while i had the chance... p.s.i own a juno now..but i cant get anything worthwhile out of it...i guess i need to duct tape some pedal to the top of it..every time i send to the list i get a return address letter back.... does any one else have this problem how do i fix it?>p.s.i own a juno now..but i cant get anything worthwhile out of it...i guess i need to duct tape some pedal to the top of it.. duct tape, we don'e need no stupid duct tape :)) Are you into hamsters? ;)I wanted to send patches to the Virus from my PC (Sybsystem 7's web site has free patches). For my AN1x I just use AN1x Edit which is a free util designed to work with the AN1x. What should I use for the Virus? Is there some sort of free Windows utility? Worst case scenario I could bring my Virus to my friend's house who has Cakewalk Pro Audio 8, but I am not familiar with the program. Anyone have a simple set of instructions on how to send the data either from a free utility or from Cakewalk? Thanks. Markhi mark, I'm sure The Crystal Method has used a DX-7. See on http://www.vintagesynth.com for further infos. regards nicoOn Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:01:52 +0100, torsten edwinson wrote: First of all: RTFM. You should definitely read the PDF documentation delivered together with your VST CD. All your questions are already answered there. Of course, the radium versions don't have the docs, but you aren't using them, are you? >1. Are there any generic way on how to use a studio driver? The studio module provides a link between the bank/patch select and patch names. In the "inspector" window you can select track and part parameters (bank, patch, volume, delay etc.). You may choose an instrument for a track. This links the track to the studio module (each driver features a number of instruments). Now you can't select patches by bank/patchnumber, you have to use the module. You should load some patch data, otherwise you would not be able to see patch names. >What I mean with this is, is it ok to chose one part on track 4 and let it use the sound 'Infected' with volume 75 and then later in the song let track 4 use the sound 'Virus' with vol 127? Yes. Every part cn have its own inspector parameters. Take care: It takes some time between the beginnig of the part and the effective activation of the new parameters. I often use an empty part just containing the patch selections and place it just before the parts containing the note events. This makes sure that the parts get selected safely. >Or should I use the studio driver to set a sound for a whole track without any changes within the track? You could, but you don't have to. >2. How do I set the amount of delay for each sound and/or track? In the inspector window you'll see a field for delay. >4. What do I use to record knobsettings throughout the song? For example >making some sweeps with the cutoff and resonance? Should I use a mixermap? A mixermap usually is a good idea since it keeps your controller changes transparent and visual in cubase. Another method of visualisation is the control display in the piano-roll editor. For the latter solution you would have to know the controller numbers; cubase wouldn't show the VIRUS parameter name. Anyway, take yourself some time and work through the PDF documentation - it's worth the effort. flpOn Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:27:24 -0500, luxx wrote: >i am about to convert my songs to mp3 what kbps should i t if i wanna go lofi for a speedy download?? >but i dont want them to sound like total shizt either Get yourself a good encoder. Most of the freeware/shareware encoders are based upon the old Fraunhofer code which was only released for documentation purpose. Even with 128KBit/s you will definitely hear artifacts with those encoders. Any encoder based upon the official Fraunhofer code should do optimal work (I can recommend "Audioactive Production Studio"). If you want minimum artifacts you should use 128KBit/s / high quality encoding. With my music (instrumental, lots of transients) any lower data rate will produce audible artifacts. With my Pontis MP3-Player I use 96KBit/s for jogging purpose. It's not perfect, but sufficient. Just give it a try and compare the results. You might want to introduce lofi and hifi downloads plus short song "clips" in maximum quality to your potential downloaders. CU flp ___________________________________________________ Check my music for free: http://www.mp3.com/rumpelrauschHi all, Why ohh Why the Virus[A] [B] does not have alot of reviews in magazine?well mayby one in SOS but u know all what i mean..... i think this baby is the most powefull machine yet for the price and for the polyphony/multi-tymbrality etc.... great sound..... etc...... anyway :) you dont have to respond, it was just a small "wonder of my part" bye all :)More like weeeeeeeeeee.... (Not hey hey - I KNOW the sounds a hamster makes) ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: cris f To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 05:04 am Subject: Re: Break Beat/Trip Hop Sounds? >....how 'bout duct-taping that hamster onto the juno, and patch him in; that >oughta give you some new sounds....(heh heh) :) >btw - it seems that on the virus my out1 is much noisier than out2/3.. is it with yrs as well? I think it is more a case that it is 'hotter' than the other outs... Is there not a way that you can set the 'output level' of the out2/3... ? I am at 'work' now (Just stuck some cables down with 'duct tape') so I can't tell you off hand. Wait, lets cc this to the VIRUS list and ask them. Anyone?I have this problem too, and i know other people are experiencing it too. it's because someone hasn't unsubscribed from the Virus list, but his email account was deleted at his provider. so teklab listserver keeps sending to him to, but the provider daemon program doenst recognize the email addy anymore, and sends an error back to teklab...which sends it back to you. nice. PLEASE JAY help us with this...more people are having this problem. -john machielsen- luxx wrote: >every time i send to the list i get a return address letter back.... >does any one else have this problem >how do i fix it?unsubscribe monocyt@friends.atHi!Ê My name is Ben; I've just recently purchased a new Virus b, and I thought I would share my thoughts onÊthis intriguing little machine. My current equipment list is as follows;Atari Falcon 030 running Logic v.2.5, Kurzweil K2000 with sample option, EMU Procussion drum module (hate the bloody thing), Quadraverb+, and now (of course) the wonderful Virus b. I work with a couple of friends in a group called 'Slang' Before I launchÊheadlong into my gripes and quibbles, I must say that I have fallen head-over-heels in love with myÊ Virus over the course of the last couple of weeks, and am suffering from serious lack of sleep, and a backlog of other work that I am supposed to have been doing instead! ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ Although I'll probably not be too popular for saying this, I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the factory presets -and yes I am referring to the new V.3.0 sounds- it's not that they are badly programmed, but I dont think that there is enough variety to the textures on offer. It seems to me as though they are almost exclusively aimed at people who want to make instant trance and techno, and don't cater for those who want to be inspired into producing somethingÊ entirely new. This is, of course, my entirely subjective opinion, so please don't take it personally, anyone! Also, I found it very frustrating that the sounds were not categorised; I'm sure it would save a lot of users valuable time if they didn't have to scroll through all 512 sounds looking for the occasional bass sound. Perhaps there could be a categorised version of the sound sets available on the download section? Incidentally, if you haven't tried them yet, I would recommend to anyone that they check out the crawfish sounds - definitely more my cup of tea! As far as actual problems go, there hasn't been many that couldn't be solved by rtfm, but there are a few sounds that don't seem to be performing as they should- there are one or two in the bank C and D sets that don't work at all- could someone please check that the files on the download site aren't corrupted slightly? Also I'm confused as to why there seems to be a polyphony problem with some sounds - for example Bowed, which makes a crackling noise when you play consecutive chords of only a few notes each. It seems to be the sound of notes being cut short in their release phase, and can be cured by switching Unison mode off. However, with a supposed 24 notes to play with this shouldn't be a problem. You do not have to play fast for this to happen. ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊI have also experienced problems when using the Virus in multitimbral mode, with certain percussive sounds losing their punch when another sound is playing over the top. This isn't because they are acoustically masking each other (at least I don't think it is), as it happens randomly, with some notes playing perfectly, and others seemingly losing the first several milliseconds of the attack phase, and not in the same places in the track either. I have also ensured that the sounds have their Phase initial parameter set to a positive number. Can anyone help? ÊÊÊÊÊ Finally, here are my suggestions/hopes for future upgrades: 1) Sine wave for the suboscillator. 2) Choice of octave separation for the sub oscillator eg. 0, -1, -2. 3) Delay start for LFO 3, as well as fade-in. 4) EQ for all partsÊ (please). This could perhaps be an alternative to the distortion, like the lowpass and highpass in ÊÊ the saturation list. 5) Option for the Amp envelope to switch between fast (as it is) and slow for some really long attack times. 6) More default Velocity parameters, or perhaps just a user definable one, so that you don't have to fiddle about with ÊÊ the Assigns. 7) Osc1 Pitch to be able to follow the filter envelope as well. ...OR..... 8) A dedicated Pitch envelope! Surely this would be achievable as a hidden sub-menu - ON/OFF, followed by the usual Ê Virus envelope parameters? This could of course be simply called ENV 3 and be made freely assignable to anyÊModÊsource! 9)ÊIs it possible to stop the Virus making that horrible loud clicking noise when switching between sounds that have the ÊÊ inputs enabled in one to another that doesn't? Not only does it make me jump every time, but it concerns me that if ever ÊÊ I use the the Virus in a live situation, that it might make program changes a serious problem. 10) (seems a pity to finish on 9) ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ If you've bothered reading this far, I do apologiseÊif I've been a bit long-windedÊ; I'll try not to get so carried away in future!ÊÊÊÊÊ ÊÊ ÊÊ Soon I hope to be posting a few of myÊown programming efforts on the site. ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ Happy knob twiddling . e-mail me atÊwww.info@cranesmusic.com ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ Hi Mark, >I can't figure out if Chemical Brothers are getting most of the dirty vintage sounds from old equipment or (more than likely) the sampling and re-sampling of sounds? I believe they use lo-fi techniques, crap guitar pedals off the mixer sends, heavy drum loop compression & distortion, etc. Once you're doing this I wouldn't expect it to matter too much whether you're using a vintage synth or a similar-sounding VA. Most likely they tour with VA, since vintage stuff is unreliable, heavy & fragile on the road. >I'm hooked on the whole break beat thing. For a while I was more Trance sounding, but I'm shifting a little. I got into funk & hip-hop dancing to White Lines and The Message. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, y'all. >I'm influenced by many different people from Moby, Juno Reactor, Chemical Brothers, Red Snapper, and I try to keep my edge on other types of music to bring new elements inbound to my style.. I know all of these. Check out the 'Live At The Social' 1 & 2 mix CDs. For this area of music, these are absolute must-haves. And keep listening to other stuff, stay fresh, have fun. Cheers, Thomas>Marc, >you have Pro Tools? Drool, drool slobber....i don't even have a Juno *yet*(or a hamster for that matter). I opted for the "poor man's pro tools".....Cubase VST/with Yamaha DS2416/Yamaha O1V. What is so poor about that??? You've got a complete studio every musician would dream of years ago. (and don't say: that was then and this is now). Okay, maybe there are more functions with Pro Tools...but isn't it a matter of playing something and record it (with a good card). Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl>I believe they use lo-fi techniques, crap guitar pedals off the mixer sends, >heavy drum loop compression & distortion, etc. Once you're doing this I wouldn't expect it to matter too much whether you're using a vintage synth or a similar-sounding VA. Exactly...so why use Pro Tools if you use lo-fi and crap pedals hahaha Marcel>....how 'bout duct-taping that hamster onto the juno, and patch him in; that oughta give you some new sounds....(heh heh) :) Plug the hamster... Some people (not myself) are just sick. Cheers, Thomasdoes anyone know if there is a audio card for a power book? the new power books only have pcmcia slots.. thnxYes, go to www.bias-inc.com and click on the power book image... luxx wrote: >does anyone know if there is a audio card for a power book? > >the new power books only have pcmcia slots.. thnxAre you sure? bigw wrote: >Anyone hear the new jarre cd "Metamorphoses" Virus all over that album! Also heard he processed alot of the voices with virus!! >WeldSo, how's the album? What's it like? bigw wrote: >Anyone hear the new jarre cd "Metamorphoses" Virus all over that album! Also heard he processed alot of the voices with virus!! >WeldAre there any pop style vocals? bigw wrote: >kinda like this : Europop mixed with influences like , Air, Robert Miles, parts of Zoolook, and new stuff. >I love it! >Weld > >anaya wrote: > >>So, how's the album? What's it like? >> >>bigw wrote: >> >>>Anyone hear the new jarre cd "Metamorphoses" Virus all over that album! Also heard he processed alot of the voices with virus!! >>>WeldAnyone hear the new jarre cd "Metamorphoses" Virus all over that album! Also heard he processed alot of the voices with virus!! Weld....how 'bout duct-taping that hamster onto the juno, and patch him in; that oughta give you some new sounds....(heh heh) :)kinda like this : Europop mixed with influences like , Air, Robert Miles, parts of Zoolook, and new stuff. I love it! Weld anaya wrote: >So, how's the album? What's it like? > >bigw wrote: > >>Anyone hear the new jarre cd "Metamorphoses" Virus all over that album! Also heard he processed alot of the voices with virus!! >>WeldYou'll do just fine with your gear list to re-create that sound.. Gotta remember they have access to some of the best gear..and boards around which makes its easy to be creative...so you just have to be more inventive.. and the note about guitars and bass with stomp boxes is dead.. thats what alot of that stuff is.. Dont forget ProTools...which everything gets recorded into..Synth lines and all then you can sonically decimate..its exactly what I do these days -----Original Message----- From: cris f To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 2:02 AM Subject: Re: Break Beat/Trip Hop Sounds? >....how 'bout duct-taping that hamster onto the juno, and patch him in; that >oughta give you some new sounds....(heh heh) :) > Hey kids. Who's up for a remix project? Here's what I propose: 1. All interested parties email me, with a brief note telling me who you are and what sort of musical styles you play. I will make a list, and create a site at MP3.com for our group. 2. I will post one of my songs (probably the same one that I posted the last time I tried to get a remix project going), and email the relevant loops and patch data to person #1 on the list, who will remix the song. 3. Person #1 will be given the password to the site at mp3.com and will post an mp3 of his or her song to the site. This person will then email the loops and patch data from the remix to person #2 on the list, who will remix the remix. 3. Person #2 will be given the password to the site at mp3.com and will post an mp3 of his or her song to the site. This person will then email the loops and patch data from the remix to person #3 on the list, who will remix the remix. Are you beginning to see a pattern yet? I think this could be very cool, as a real line of evolution could be seen with the songs. Each person would have the ability to post whatever info about the song they wished, as well as a picture of themselves--you can check out http://www.mp3.com/freon for a sample of what the format of the site will be. What do you think? I welcome any feedback or suggestions. Well, I'm hyped, so let's make this happen!!!! cam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=At 21:01 16.02.00 -0500, you wrote: >does anyone know if there is a audio card for a power book? Try the Digiram PCMCIA Card for Powerbooks. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------Marc, you have Pro Tools? Drool, drool slobber....i don't even have a Juno *yet*(or a hamster for that matter). I opted for the "poor man's pro tools".....Cubase VST/with Yamaha DS2416/Yamaha O1V. PS - Anyone else doing trip-hop/lo-fi? I'm currently recording a cd in Korea that is about 90% trip-hop. -cris fcheck me out @ http://luxx.ubikorp.com if u wait till tomorrow evening the mp3 will be smaller Cam wrote: >Hey kids. Who's up for a remix project? > >Here's what I propose: > >1. All interested parties email me, with a brief note telling me who you are and what sort of musical styles you play. I will make a list, and create a site at MP3.com for our group. list server r u there???? Received: from [193.98.9.7] by grucom2.gru.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/4c.aeaq) with ESMTP id luxx for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:52:56 -0500 Received: from daemon by mail.provi.de with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12Lbdr-0007af-00 for luxx@gru.net; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:51:31 +0100 From: To: Precedence: bulk Subject: mail failed, returning to sender X-No-Resend: True Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:51:31 +0100 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 MIME-Version: 1.0 |------------------------- Message log follows: -----------------------| | no valid recipients were found for this message | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | wolff@hanse-net.de - unknown user |----------------------------------------------------------------------| German translation: Sie haben Ihre eMail an die Adresse "wolff@hanse-net.de" gerichtet. 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Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Point of Presence GmbH, Hamburg ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >From access-list-return-1392-wolff=hanse-net.de@teklab.com Fri Feb 18 01:51:31 2000 Return-path: Envelope-to: wolff@hanse-net.de Delivery-date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:51:31 +0100 Received: from w168.z206111199.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net ([206.111.199.168] helo=teklab.com) by mail.provi.de with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12Lbdq-0007aZ-00 for wolff@hanse-net.de; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:51:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 10190 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 2000 00:54:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Received: (qmail 10183 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2000 00:54:24 -0000 Message-ID: <38AC9878.2C91B988@gru.net> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:55:25 -0500 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal References: <38AB6347.EA9F24C8@onbuffalo.com> <3.0.1.32.20000217003555.0118853c@pop.bvl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit check me out @ http://luxx.ubikorp.com if u wait till tomorrow evening the mp3 will be smaller Cam wrote: >Hey kids. Who's up for a remix project? > >Here's what I propose:|Anyone hear the new jarre cd "Metamorphoses" |Virus all over that album! Also heard he processed alot of the voices |with virus!! |Weld Is he infected? He infected me in 1977 (being 12 years old) with Oxygen. Made me want to play synthesizers as well. He is a real master of electronic music! Robcan anyone recommend a good low noise email list that discusses artists like j.m.jarre, wendy carlos, etc? tom Rob Papen wrote: > >Is he infected? >He infected me in 1977 (being 12 years old) with Oxygen. Made me want to play synthesizers as well. >He is a real master of electronic music! > >Robslightly off topic too... I remember the first time I heard electronic music, it was in 1977 with the Oxygen album my father bought, as Rob, and was 1 year old ! I guess that's why I've always been into electronic music since ;) ____________________________ http://www.worldonline.fr/JMJ's 'Oxygen' was the beginning of my endless passion for electronic music. I also have a vinyl album that came from France the year it came out too (from an 'older' girlfriend who was there at the time. ;-0)! frederic.harster@worldonline.fr wrote: >slightly off topic too... > >I remember the first time I heard electronic music, it was in 1977 with the Oxygen album my father bought, as Rob, and was 1 year old ! I guess that's why I've always been into electronic music since ;) > >____________________________ >http://www.worldonline.fr/Hi Luxx. luxx schrieb: > >i am about to convert my songs to mp3 what kbps should i t if i wanna go lofi for a speedy download?? >but i dont want them to sound like total shizt either >thank you. In addition to Phillip Mott«s reply: If u use 64 KBit/s u can compress to 22 khz sampling rate (11 khz signal) mono. This is quite ok and people who download via isdn or a 56k modem can already listen to the track while downloading. Although 56k seems to be too slow for a 64 KBit/s file: Using isdn I can download (max) 4 mb in 10 minutes. 10 minutes of MP3-music in 64 KBit/s are about 2.5 mb big. 4mb:2.5mb=1.6 10minutes:1.6=6.25minutes (time to download 10 minutes of music via isdn). 64k:56k= 1,142857142857 1,142857142857x6.25minutes= 7,142857142857minutes (time to download 10 minutes of music with a 56k-modem). carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://Tao7.tripod.com My music page at BeSonic (with RealAudio and MP3-samples): http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.htmlHi list, Does anybody Know a good place (site) to buy online Virusb o yamaha product in the European Comunity? Thanks in advance... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com>Does anybody Know a good place (site) to buy online Virusb o yamaha product in the European Comunity? I've had excellent experiences with both DDD Music (Freiburg, Germany) and Music City (Kšln, Germany) www.ddd-music.de www.music-city.de Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysHello everyone, I have recently discovered a couple of problems on the virus b. Delay color seems to "click" when swept below -10 or so. I also find that tweaking the delay rate works wonderfully until you sweep the knob down to 0, and then bring it back up...it pops horribly when you begin the upward retun of the knob. Also, the vocoder "clicks" when tweaking the "band" knob or some of the other more "tweakable" knobs. Anyone else have these issues?...I still love this synth...I just wish that some of these things could be smoothed out. Thanks, Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Hi Mark. Mark Holloway schrieb: > >To be blunt: Are bands like Crystal Method and Chemical Brothers doing their work with equipment like an Acess Virus and Nord Lead synths? Or is it a combo of old school Junos and modern equipment? I can't figure out if Chemical Brothers are getting most of the dirty vintage sounds >>from old equipment or (more than likely) the sampling and re-sampling of >sounds? > >I'm hooked on the whole break beat thing. For a while I was more Trance sounding, but I'm shifting a little. I just wanna make sure I'm on the right path.. I have a Juno 60, Access Virus, Nord Lead 2, A3000, and an Electribe-R. I'm influenced by many different people from Moby, Juno Reactor, Chemical Brothers, Red Snapper, and I try to keep my edge on other types of music to bring new elements inbound to my style..but I'm not a pro yet. > I think it doesn«t depend on the kind of synths u use, but the sounds and effects u choose. I often use my Ensoniq-ASR sampler to make dirty sounds resamling effects, changing the sample-rate etc. Once I made a very good bass-drum sampling the sound of a big bass-speaker which I hit with a finger. ;-) Most of all it depends on the mix. A few days ago I was working on a new part. I started with the drums - then bass, rhythmic cords, a pad, some melodic lines. It was a linear progression - I mean: Each new track needed the previous ones. I didn«t work on the single sounds very much, because everything was fine. Then I thought: Let«s work on the sounds. I pushed the bass, edited some sounds - and it was gone. Took some time until it was homogeneous again - but it«s not the same as before. What I want to say is: Doesn«t matter whether u use a Juno, an Oberheim, a Virus, an FS1R or anything. U can even replace a smooth synth-pad with an fm e-piano. It only depends on the musical idea and how the sounds fit together. Progression comes with creative usage of your equipment. BTW: The Roland TB-303 was a "lame" toy until someone created a new and important style. Well ... this was a little off-topic. But I don«t have a hamster or duct-tape and so I can«t say much about that topic. ;-) carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://Tao7.tripod.com My music page at BeSonic (with RealAudio and MP3-samples): http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.htmlHello, This may have something to do with why I'm experiencing troubles with the delay color, and rate: I am running the Pulse into the inputs, and the delay through a separate output than the Pulse. When I sweep the cutoff of the Virus on the channel that the Pulse is set to, and sweep the delay parameters at the same time...that's when I get these strange pops and such. Am I tweaking too many parameters ot once? Is the cutoff sweep thats being used simultainously with the delay tweaks possibly causing this? Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >can anyone recommend a good low noise email list that discusses artists like j.m.jarre, wendy carlos, etc? > >tom That has to be beyond em on the Onelist...:-) Discusses almost every style of electronic music but mostly 'typical' synth artists, but they aren't shy of techno/ambient etc. So check it out! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nlI have good experiences with Musician's Gear from Frankfurt, http://www.musicians-gear.com i bought my Emagic Unitor8 midi interface there, for about 3/5 of the price i'd pay here in the Netherlands. greetings, John Machielsen the virus patchpoint,=> http://virus.k29.nu Jorge Muguruza wrote: >Hi list, > >Does anybody Know a good place (site) to buy online Virusb o yamaha product in the European Comunity? > >Thanks in advance... > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comI'm actually looking for a kb myself right now(hence why I signed up on the list!), and I'm curious as to what people have paid for theirs. Long and McQuade gave me a price, but I've seen them used(already?!) for $1575US on Harmony Central. I'm in Toronto, Canada, so I know that British pricing is 'way out there', but US and DM dollars translate pretty well into Canadian funds(I really feel sorry for what you Brits have to pay for electronics...) Thanks, B -----Original Message----- From: John Machielsen [mailto:culthero@swankarmy.net] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:24 PM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Buying Virusb online I have good experiences with Musician's Gear from Frankfurt, http://www.musicians-gear.com i bought my Emagic Unitor8 midi interface there, for about 3/5 of the price i'd pay here in the Netherlands. greetings, John Machielsen the virus patchpoint,=> http://virus.k29.nu Jorge Muguruza wrote: >Hi list, > >Does anybody Know a good place (site) to buy online Virusb o yamaha product in the European Comunity? > >Thanks in advance... > >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comHi, I'm in Calgary, Canada and I got my Virus KB from 8th Street Music (www.8thstreet.com). Online ordering and the guys were really cool over the phone. Ended up costing me $1695, or about $2400 Canadian. I think they're in Philadelphia or Pennsylvania, I forget which. I think it ended up a bit cheaper than getting it from Vancouver (Long & McQuade was still not carrying them in Sept. '99). At current exchange rates (according to http://panamatravel.com/money.htm) you'll get a Virus KB for $2304 Canadian from these guys not incl. shipping and handling. -Russ Bryan Rodgers wrote: > >I'm actually looking for a kb myself right now(hence why I signed up on the list!), and I'm curious as to what people have paid for theirs. Long and McQuade gave me a price, but I've seen them used(already?!) for $1575US on Harmony Central. > >I'm in Toronto, Canada, so I know that British pricing is 'way out there', but US and DM dollars translate pretty well into Canadian funds(I really feel sorry for what you Brits have to pay for electronics...) > >Thanks, > >B > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Machielsen [mailto:culthero@swankarmy.net] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:24 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Buying Virusb online > >I have good experiences with Musician's Gear from Frankfurt, > >http://www.musicians-gear.com > >i bought my Emagic Unitor8 midi interface there, for about 3/5 of the price i'd pay here in the Netherlands. > >greetings, > >John Machielsen >the virus patchpoint,=> http://virus.k29.nu > >Jorge Muguruza wrote: > >>Hi list, >> >>Does anybody Know a good place (site) to buy online Virusb o yamaha product in the European Comunity? >> >>Thanks in advance... >> >>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com... and my first experience with him was at the Pyramids in Egypt for the New Years 2000 show. What an event! If you can find the video (not sure if there's one yet ... but there were lots of pro-camera-people there) check it out! -zs anaya wrote: > >JMJ's 'Oxygen' was the beginning of my endless passion for electronic music. I also have a vinyl album that came from France the year it came out too (from an 'older' girlfriend who was there at the time. ;-0)!>tweaking the delay rate works wonderfully until you sweep the knob down to 0, and then bring it back up...it pops horribly when you begin the upward retun of the knob. as it should ... you can use this to make some cool effects if you have an LFO modulating delay time. Set delay time at 0 Assign1 Source: LFO1 Assign1 Dest: Delay Time Assign1 Amount: +20 -------------z>I am running the Pulse into the inputs, and the delay through a separate output than the Pulse. When I sweep the cutoff of the Virus on the channel that the Pulse is set to, and sweep the delay parameters at the same time...that's when I get these strange pops and such. Is the input level too hot? The LFO LEDs will flash brightly as soon as the input ADC starts to clip ... which could be a source of the popping. >Am I tweaking too many >parameters ot once? Thankfully, this is impossible. The more parameters being tweaked, the better! -zsThanks for the insight Zack...I really appreciate it...now I've got some fun experimenting to do when I get home! Brooks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com here's the site http://luxx.ubikorp.com it's name is snirkle. the lofi is the only one thats up right now. if you want a cd of my stuff e mail me. please tell me what you think. i would be very interested in hearing what you think of the mix.