X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 1 02:31:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: implode@mail.well.com Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:52:25 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Gene Schwartz Subject: re: Shitty Service Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Gene Schwartz >* From Blackstone Hamilton > > >It's really unrealistic to expect any knowledge from a salesperson ANYWHERE. If you do find a knowledgeable person, consider this an anomaly and yourself fortunate. However, be suspicious, because the information you get is likely to be inaccurate to some degree. I recommned you only seek the following knowledge retail personnel. "Do you have XYZ item or can you get it?" and "What is your price?" This is all they have the capacity or INCENTIVE to know. If you seek only this information from them, I predict your frustration will quickly come to end. > I basically agree with you, but I think that perhaps this statement is a bit exaggerated. There are certainly SOME honest, knowledgeable sales people. I for instance, had a short career selling synths and software for a store in S.F. I made it a point to NEVER lie, to always recommend other products that we didn't carry if that is what the customer needed, and to never bullshit. I also suspect that I was reasonably knowledgeable. I also eventually got fired for insubordination. There are certainly others, although you are correct about the overwhelming majority. The trick is to find someone who is honest and knowledgeable and stick with them. Sometimes they even have good prices. E.g. John Mika at Music Central. "I began to add a few things up and realized there was no way I could come from a little town in Iowa, be eating 2,000 people a year, and nobody said anything about it" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 1 16:06:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:02:52 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: re: Shitty Service Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:52 AM +0100 on 01.01.1999 Gene Schwartz wrote: >The trick is to find someone who is honest and knowledgeable and stick with them. Sometimes they even have good prices. E.g. John Mika at Music Central. actually I found a mnusic dealer nearby that I got to know better because he needed some support for his in store computer system when I was 2working for some comuter company. The two guys at the store are always extrasupernice to me and always try to give me the best price they can. Very often they'll be a bit more expensive than the large mailorder stores (between 50-150 DM) and usually I buy from them anyways because I feel with such great support it's worth that little extra money. They have given me so much that money can't buy (let me take things with me over the weekend to check them out, even shopped around for me among their other clients when they knew I was looking for a particular piece of gear used and all that. I have put things on hold without having to put money down, they let me take my gear with me, saying "pay us later" and all that. Also they offer me coffee and sit down with me to chat whenever I come down to the store. The reliably call me back whenever I ask them to find something for me. I try to give back what I can by buying from them instead of someone who is only marginally cheaper and I recommend the store to people asking me about good music stores in the area. Maybe that is the key to a nice store. If they know you and you know them well they will be much nicer and much more competent... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 2 18:50:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Torsten Eichhorst" To: "Teklab" Subject: a new suggestion Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:44:21 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi, It would me nice, íf the virus is in Multi Single Mode and in the Edit or Ctrl menu, to leave this menus by pressing Edit or Ctrl again. Hitting the multi and single key at same time isnīt as easy as it could be ;-) Happy new year Torsten X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 3 00:07:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:38:05 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: a new suggestion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:44 PM +0100 on 02.01.1999 Torsten Eichhorst wrote: >Hitting the multi and single key at same time isnīt as easy as it could be ;-) Happy actually I think it used to be easier in an earlier version, but I could be wrong. Maybe I was just more dexterous...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 2 20:03:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 19:41:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: a new suggestion X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) >Torsten Eichhorst schrieb: > >Hi, >It would me nice, íf the virus is in Multi Single Mode and in the Edit or Ctrl menu, to leave this menus by pressing Edit or Ctrl again. Hitting the multi and single key at same time isnīt as easy as it could be ;-) >Happy new year >Torsten Hi Torsten ! You donīt have to press the Multi- and Singlebutton at the same time. Pressing only one of them is just enough. Try it !!! Happy new Year Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 2 20:14:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:08:13 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Shitty Service Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn I think typically you dont get very good service from shops here in the states, but I just relocated to the washington DC area, and found a music store that I was VERY impressed with...Washington Mucic Center... They had most of the new equipment that the tekno types are looking for...they even had a virus (which I have never seen in a store before....I had to special order mine) The guys at the store were pretty knowledgable....and even if they didn't really know tons about the gear...they knew the kinds of things I was looking for. These guys understand how to deal with a syth freak...I found a new store to donate my hard earned cash to......heheheh if you're in the Baltimore/DC area.....check them out...I was glad I did. peace CRazyJOn Master of Digital Chicanery P.S. Shameless Plug---- I have a couple of tracks up on the net in an MP3 format and would love feedback you can find them at: http://rampages.onramp.net/~panderso/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 3 01:31:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 01:27:49 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: a new suggestion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Torsten Eichhorst schrieb: Hi,It would me nice, íf the virus is in Multi Single Mode and in the Edit or Ctrl menu, to leave this menus by pressing Edit or Ctrl again. Hitting the multi and single key at same time isnīt as easy as it could be ;-)Happy new yearTorsten Yes, and often I return in Multimode, not in Multi-Single-Mode, and loose my sounds. X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 3 10:05:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net (Unverified) To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: controller reset Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:56:34 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield Hello all and Happy 1999!, I am looking for a way to reset all of my tweaked out VIRUS controllers when my sequence loops back around. I am creating a song using Virus channels 1-5 (my sequencer is EMAGIC LOGIC) I tried using the MIDI Dump TX to send the patch (recording it in the sequence) ....The patch info is on MIDI channel 2 but it sends it back to the *edit buffer* in the VIRUS-(even though I have it FORCE TO BANK A selected in the DUMP RX) - my patch is A124 (on midi channel 2). So if I have channel 1 (with the corresponding patch for that channel) selected on the LED on the VIRUS, the A124 patch from midi channel 2 overwites the patch on midi chanel 1 OR whatever patch/channel i have selected on the VIRUS led screen....(overwrites the current buffer) **Basically, I am looking to somehow get the controller values of my patch, record them to the appropriate midi channel, and then be able to send them back to that VIRUS patch and midi channel *only*. In this case I do not need all the info that is recorded with the MIDI TX such as patch name etc. I tried to filter out the SYSEX info in LOGIC but it seems that the patch info is sent as a SYSEX packet? so no controller info got through. *I know that there is a CONTOLLER CAPTURE function on the NORD LEAD - and thats what i am looking for. thanks !! David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 3 14:35:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Mike478640@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:32:36 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: my thought of the virus... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mike478640@aol.com hello list i'm just a regular ECUADORIAN guy, i use the virus sounds on my music all the time, sometimes i make radio or tv spots, sometimes i remix music, sometimes i play live with my band, i never had any problem updating to 2.00, i use a pc with cubase vst and a midi express xt. i have been reading this list for about 6 months, and i think is so cool to interact with people from around the world, and i just wanted to thank ACCESS for this beautiful synth, is the best one i own, and i'm gonna use the vocoder on so many projects.... thanx access. california, usa. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 3 17:41:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:29:59 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: controller reset Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:56 AM +0100 on 03.01.1999 David Battenfield wrote: >*I know that there is a CONTOLLER CAPTURE function on the NORD LEAD - and thats what i am looking for. well, an easy way to do this would be to set all the controllers that you are tweaking during the sequence (you will know which ones they are) to their initial values on 1.1.1.1 in Logic on that same track. That way Logic will read the controllers when "Chase Controllers" is enabled. Since you are probably not changing too many of them, this should be an easy way. Of course on the first beat of the first measure of the part you are cycling you could also put a program change message that switches this channel's part back to A124. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 3 19:34:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Torsten Eichhorst" To: Subject: Re: a new suggestion Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:30:08 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Torsten Eichhorst" >Hi Torsten ! > >You donīt have to press the Multi- and Singlebutton at the same time. Pressing only one of them is just enough. Tr it !!! >Happy new Year > >Jens W. Ok Jens youīre right. Pressing the single or the multi key to return to mult-single mode is obviously enough. Thanxs Torsten ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 04:05:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Shitty Service (bit long) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:02:16 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" The Ever-Interesting Blackstone Hamilton wrote... >... the staff in music stores are people who more or less found themselves in need of a job ... enough education to recognize the difference between a guitar and a synthesizer, but not much more ... economy of scale and a McDonald's type business model. ... consumer is driven to purchase, not on service or value but rather by low prices. Yes, and it turns out in weird ways. I bought my first synth 18 months ago. I spent about 5-6 months reading books and magazines before I did so, and really I spent a lot of the last 2 years educating myself from nothing about synthesis (and music) while building a studio. I'm pretty happy with my setup now, but I could have saved a lot of time in the past for sure. Only now am I starting to find out about synth clubs in my area and so on (San Francisco!). And it's a lot of work to go past the commercial messages and buy the gear you really need. This is where the sales people in the store can help or hinder you. I had a strange experience with this. To start with I had a new computer and I just included a simple soundcard. Fun for a week or two but I wanted analog sounds, not sampling - I like goa trance. Problem was, I didn't know what analog *was* or that I needed it. But I had some patch on my soundcard with a flanger sound and I liked it. So I went to 'Music and Computers' who seemed very knowledgeable. I explained to them (pretty well I think) what this flanging noise sounded like, and asked what it was so. 'Oh your soundcard is broken' they answered. I knew this was wrong and tried to explain further to them, but they were eally unhelpful. Then I went to Guitar Center which is the 'superstore' with the discounts and not-so-smart staff. There was one helpful guy and he showed me ReBirth, so I bought this and I was 'in business'. I had a lot of help at the Guitar Center in the first year and bought mst of my gear there. Now they know I am very into synth gear and they show me new equipment to ask my opinion (and maybe hope I will buy it too, sure). Now the economics here are that SF is a very musical city and the more Pro stores make plenty of money and don't care so much about the smaller customer. The big stores like Guitar Center fall more in the middle of the quality spectrum here, because they have to. So although there is some gear I cannot get at this 'superstore' (the Nord Modular, perhaps ... nooooo, no more gear!), still I was really pleased with the help they gave me. I have 2 synths I don't use much any more (Yamaha CS1x and Roland MC-505), but these were not forced on me by the store, they filled a need of the time. (I bought the 505 when it was very new, before any adverts. I just tried it and liked it straight away. It is a fine machine for writing music a certain way.) >This business model places the onus of information gathering on the consumer and the >manufacturer's advertising conduit. The retailers have stripped all of the service >component out of their business other than to provide a portal to goods. The upside is that a resourceful and diligent consumer can get goods for less expense (if you don't factor the research cost). Well, the research cost is certainly high. But I have to say that it kind of pays off too, I learned very much stuff along the way. >Picture yourself in a swarming fishmarket, and that is the mentality that will serve you best. Haggle with them and accept only the best price. After all, YOU are the expert on the product you are buying. There is a very good point which I had not thought of. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 05:07:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: db8@pop.slip.net To: access-list@teklab.com From: David Battenfield Subject: Re: controller reset Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:04:53 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From David Battenfield THanks for the helpful advice!, >Of course on the first beat of the first measure of the part you are cycling you could also put a program change message that switches this channel's part back to A124. **How exactly can I send a program change (patch change) ?? I looked in the Virus Manual, but I could not find it. I still feel it would be nice to have MIDI DUMP TX command of some sort that could send a "snapshot" of the initial controller values!! : -) thanks again Canine! -David ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 09:22:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:19:54 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: New Year 'Z' and Re: a new suggestion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda This proves that I am still learning from this list! I still wonder what the 'Z' access talked about would mean... will it be a very nice O.S. update? Dimitri. >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) >>Torsten Eichhorst schrieb: >>Hi, >>It would me nice, íf the virus is in Multi Single Mode and in the Edit or Ctrl menu, to leave this menus by pressing Edit or Ctrl again. Hitting the multi and single key at same time isnīt as easy as it could be ;-) >>Happy new year >>Torsten >Hi Torsten ! >You donīt have to press the Multi- and Singlebutton at the same time. Pressing only one of them is just enough. Try it !!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 13:11:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:49:01 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: controller reset Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:04 AM +0100 on 04.01.1999 David Battenfield wrote: >**How exactly can I send a program change (patch change) ?? I looked in the Virus Manual, but I could not find it. This is more of a Logic question. Go to the Event Editor. on the lefthand side you will see all the little icons for MIDI data Logic can generate. There click on the little two digit icon with tha command key held down. this will insert a Program Change at the position of your song locator. you can edit the number and if "OUT" is selected on the left side, you can watch the Virus change programs... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 19:08:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:04:50 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Another suggestion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker I`m working just in Multi-Single mode. When I want to return from edit or ctrl menu I have to press the multi-button. Sometimes it happens that I go in multimode directly and I loose all "notsaved " Sounds. Wouldn`t it be better, if you have to press the multi-button 4 seconds to enter the multimode, and same with singlemode ? What happend to the possibility to change the Soundbank from A to B by pressing single+parameter in OS 2.01? I liked this and I had never problems with this. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 19:11:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Bad Service Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:10:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" Anig wrote: >I had a lot of help at the Guitar Center in the first year and bought mst of my gear there. Now they know I am very into synth gear and they show me new equipment to ask my opinion (and maybe hope I will buy it too, sure). I visited the Guitar Center in SF almost exactly a year ago, and it's no wonder they ask your opinion. But to be fair, it's not *so* different in Germany or England. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 19:15:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:12:19 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: controller reset Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker > > >We should continue this discussion, if a new midi standart comes to the marked, which is ten times faster or so. > >Ciao >Christoph Kemper >access music I would like you to design it ! :-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 21:02:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:45:42 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: controller reset Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:56 PM +0100 on 04.01.1999 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >We should continue this discussion, if a new midi standart comes to the marked, which is ten times faster or so. You know, One thing I really really like about midi is that there hasn't been a "new and improved, ten times faster" standard and I sincerely hope there will never ever be one. MIDI and all its limitations has forced developers to think hard about how to do things (awesome things like smoothing of parameters) instead of falling back the ever increasing attitude in the computer market: "well, if it doesn't work with your computer just buy a faster one. I think that a lot of computer developers have become lazy and actually purposely make a program seem sluggish on an old CPU to help market the "new and improved" cpu... There are so many wonderful things we all do with MIDI, a standard that is becoming older than some of its users... Also in the case of MIDI the good old saying: "Good thing about standards is -- there are so many to choose from..." is not true. And I like that. Every piece of gear uses MIDI and everything is compatible. Well I know. There are limitations (i.e. Cakewalk) but hey. There fore I hope that MIDI is here to stay. and to improve more and more... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 4 23:21:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:18:14 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: new midi? (Re: controller reset) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda >>We should continue this discussion, if a new midi standart comes to the marked, which is ten times faster or so. >> >>Ciao >>Christoph Kemper >>access music > >I would like you to design it ! :-) New! Improved! Faster than your old MIDI! Play your keyboard in australia and let you grandma hear it on the north-pole! It's MIDI via TCP/IP! http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dgslomin/netmidi/ Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 5 03:59:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BURUFUNK@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:28:27 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Help installing 2.01 OS Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BURUFUNK@aol.com Hey there list! I just got my Virus today(finally). I purchased mine from Guitar Center in north Dallas, Tx, and the sales rep was very cool and gave me a great deal. It's definitely the coolest sounding synth I've heard in a while, but I'm having a problem loading the 2.01 OS. Every sequencer I try locks up when I attempt to play back the midifiles. I unzipped the midifiles to a floppy and tried playing them in a demo version of Cubase VST 3.5, Cakewalk 8.0 and Digital Orchestrator Pro. I've also tried several different shareware midifile players. I have downloaded the OS several times hoping that I had a corrupt download, but no luck. My browser is Microsoft IE 4.0 and I'm running a Pentium 233 with 32 meg of RAM. Does anyone know of a hardware sequencer I could try or some other software out there that might work? I sure would like to check out that vocoder. Thanks guys! BURUFUNK ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 5 16:08:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Another suggestion Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:05:29 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>What happend to the possibility to change the Soundbank from A to B... >This function fell out by accident while we included the possibility to change programs by the value poti when you press the SINGLE button simultaneous. (Joerg did it, but he didn't tell me, so it was not documented in the ReadMe.) >This function was actually a suggestion from somebody on the mailing list. He is the responsible, who was it ???!?:) It was one of mine, though I've been plugging harder for a Compare function (which seems to be on the way - yippee!) BTW: Same for Multi+Value (Edit+Value, Ctrl+Value)? >Ahm, we will restore the old bank funktion and keep the new feature in the next version. o.k.? Great. I'll skip 2.01 then. You guys certainly do keep the improvements coming - this machine is IMO already the best "analog" ever. If you make too much money ;-) , don't drop the price - improve the hardware instead (better potis, internal switching-PSU). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 5 19:14:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:12:10 -0800 From: b-La-roc To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From b-La-roc unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 5 19:29:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:26:59 -0800 From: b-La-roc To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From b-La-roc ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 5 20:39:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Shitty Service (my last thoughts) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:33:48 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton I've had a similar experience as Anig with GuitCtr. When I first walked in there, I had been out of the music scene long enough to be considered virtually 'tabla rasa' (blank slate) with respect to synths. The 'kids' in the synth dept didn't know who I was from Adam and didn't feel that educating me about a $4000 Kurzweil was worth their time. If I were on a used car lot and paused for two seconds at a jalopy worth $4k, there'd be a swarm of 'friendly greeters'. I've already stated a number of reasons why I think this is different in retail, but from a microscopic viewpoint, the music kids didn't recognize me as a person who could and would plunk down the money if the product could demonstrate its value (beyond the self demo - that is). >From the perspective of the guy in the music store, a lot of dudes come in and plink the keys and can't scrape together the necessary resources to walk out with something that will put some commission in their pocket. I'm sure they would get bored with such an existence if they had to constantly help each person as though he/she had the same potential to buy. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming the broke plinkers - most of us have been that guy), I'm just trying to explain what I think is happening in the skulls of others. Anyway, I eventually picked up a k2500 xs one day and have bought other gear from GC. When I walk in, some know me by name and make a point to say 'what's up...' I'm not confused; I don't I think they're my friends. It's just that when there's a crowd full of people, I no longer get ignored. They know I'm not gonna bug them for info (they aren't likely to have), but I'm gonna present them with the best price I've found. If they can come close enough, I'll get the thing. If the box doesn't perform to my liking, they know I'll bring it back in pristine condition packed as it was from the factory. It's kind of Zen (or just the natural resignation caused by an existence an anonymous metropolis), very little unnecessary resistance on both sides. Like I said before, if the sales guy imparts some knowledge in the process that's plausible, even if that's only to raise my awareness about some new gear, I consider it a bonus. For those of you in smaller communities, I imagine you will enjoy an altogether different experience. Peace. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 00:10:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:57:58 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Howdy Virus'ers, I don't know if this is possible or not, but I had this idea last night for a new feature for the Virus: "Ignore Controller Change" How it works is you can tell the Virus to totally ignore parameter changes on any of the knobs. The reason I want this feature is that last night after editing a nice new sound, I was recording some live adjustment of the Cutoff/Frequency controllers in my track, and inadvertently hit the ENV AMOUNT controller, sending my sound spinning off into la la land... now, this wasn't necessarily a big problem because I was just recording MIDI tracks, but if I was doing this live, it really would've been painful... So, maybe there's some way to have a feature where you can tell the Virus "Only pay attention to movement of these knobs: Res/Cutoff/FEG/etc.". I'm thinking there would be some key combination I could use to tell the Virus what to ignore - maybe hold down Param > and Value - at the same time, then turn the knob I want the Virus to ignore, or something like that. Then I could hold down Param < and Value + to tell the Virus to pay attention to every knob controller again... Does this make sense to anyone? Maybe I'm missing some feature of the Virus that makes this redundant, perhaps... I mean, I use my Virus for live playback, as an instrument, and this would really help me out during those "too many beers before the gig, getting very excited about this buildup, swagger swagger oops I just hit the wrong knob" moments I'm prone to experiencing... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 01:47:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:44:40 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Jay Vaughan wrote: >* From Jay Vaughan > >Howdy Virus'ers, > >I don't know if this is possible or not, but I had this idea last night for a new feature for the Virus: > > "Ignore Controller Change" > >How it works is you can tell the Virus to totally ignore parameter changes on any of the knobs. > >The reason I want this feature is that last night after editing a nice new sound, I was recording some live adjustment of the Cutoff/Frequency controllers in my track, and inadvertently hit the ENV AMOUNT controller, sending my sound spinning off into la la land... now, this wasn't necessarily a big problem because I was just recording MIDI tracks, but if I was doing this live, it really would've been painful... [...] Probably a better solution would be to get a knob box, such as the Peavey PC1600X and set up the sliders to do just what you want. With such a box, you could gang several controllers together, or limit the values from say 27 to 65 instead of 0-127. You can also invert the slider. While I have wanted many of the features that people bounce around on this list, I am also aware that the interface will get too overloaded if we keep on piling more and more features into a relatively simple box. I would strongly encourage a compare function and a ring modulator. I would also like to have a "do you want to save?" dialog. My OB*MX asks if I want to save changes to a patch if I try to change patches after I have modified something. Maybe "Store to save changes, Single to forget changes." -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 02:00:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 16:51:49 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Probably a better solution would be to get a knob box, such as the Peavey PC1600X and set up the sliders to do just what you want. With such a box, you could gang several controllers together, or limit the values from say 27 to 65 instead of 0-127. You can also invert the slider. I have a PC1600x... and actually, it's already being used for most of my other gear during a live performance - and a big draw for the Virus was that it has all the knobs I need for live control, you see... Heck, I've been a proponent of the PC1600x for years, so I definitely think you're spot on with your suggestion. It's just that mine is definitely being put to use elsewhere... I could get another one, I suppose, but I think it'd be better to enhance the control capabilities of the Virus, don't you? >While I have wanted many of the features that people bounce around on this list, I am also aware that the interface will get too overloaded if we keep on piling more and more features into a relatively simple box. > I agree... however, this has already happened with the Virus to some extent, which is why Access saw fit to add the "Advanced/Basic" editing option ... >I would strongly encourage a compare function and a ring modulator. I would also like to have a "do you want to save?" dialog. My OB*MX asks if I want to save changes to a patch if I try to change patches after I have modified something. Maybe "Store to save changes, Single to forget changes." I agree, all of these things are needed. My suggestion wasn't intended to cloud over other features, just for Access to add to the list for consideration when they get the chance... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 02:56:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:54:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:57 PM +0100 on 05.01.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >I mean, I use my Virus for live playback, as an instrument, and this would really help me out during those "too many beers before the gig, getting very excited about this buildup, swagger swagger oops I just hit the wrong knob" moments I'm prone to experiencing... does the "MIDI Panel int/Int+MIDI/MIDI" paramter solve your problem? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 05:03:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:58:11 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:51 AM +0100 on 06.01.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >I agree... however, this has already happened with the Virus to some extent, which is why Access saw fit to add the "Advanced/Basic" editing option ... Hm I have actually never set my Virus to "Easy" mode... I don't even know the difference... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 19:17:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:15:56 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>I would strongly encourage a compare function and a ring modulator. I think Access are working on these already (?) >>I would also like to have a "do you want to save?" dialog. My OB*MX asks if I want to save changes to a patch if I try to change patches after I have modified something. Maybe "Store to save changes, Single to forget changes." Woah! This would be very inconvenient, making it impossible to switch sounds on-the-fly. Remember that changing any parameter edits the program (without even being in "Edit" mode). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 20:10:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: s-cappiello@pop.ski.mskcc.org Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:11:18 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Steven Cappiello Subject: opinions? Virus vs. Supernova Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steven Cappiello Dear Access list, Does anyone have any opinions with regard to the Virus vs. the Supernova by Novation? Thanks! -Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 21:26:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paulo Abreu" To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:23:02 -0000 Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paulo Abreu" >>"Ignore Controller Change" >> >>How it works is you can tell the Virus to totally ignore parameter changes on any of the knobs. >Mhh, go to CTRL, SYSTEM Menu and set KNOB Mode to Off. Or a screen message saying "Don't touch me if you're to drunk/high" or better yet a "midi ballon" where you blow before playing and if alcool level goes beyound a threshould level the virus goes instantly to KNOB Mode Off.... I guess that if Access would implement a "per knob" protect function one would be "safe" when drunk live then 2 days latter one would get crazy trying to figure out "whats happening with this knob response??!!!!....it must be a BUG...". Let alone the virus, it is WONDERFUL the way it is already...the compare and ringmod would be great anyway ; ) Paulo Abreu ------------------- peabreu@isa.utl.pt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 6 22:04:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: opinions? Virus vs. Supernova Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:00:18 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton I haven't heard one personally, but others who have (on www.sonicstate.com) favor the Virus so far. Guess you can't go by them impressive specs alone. -----Original Message----- From: Steven Cappiello [mailto:s-cappiello@ski.mskcc.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 11:11 AM To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: opinions? Virus vs. Supernova * From Steven Cappiello Dear Access list, Does anyone have any opinions with regard to the Virus vs. the Supernova by Novation? Thanks! -Steven ________________________________________________________________________ ___ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 01:44:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Howard Scarr wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>>I would also like to have a "do you want to save?" dialog. My OB*MX asks if I want to save changes to a patch if I try to change patches after I have modified something. Maybe "Store to save changes, Single to forget changes." > >Woah! This would be very inconvenient, making it impossible to switch sounds on-the-fly. Remember that changing any parameter edits the program (without even being in "Edit" mode). The way the OB*Mx handles it is that program changes over MIDI don't require a confirmation if knobs have been changed, but program changes from the front panel require confirmation. Sometimes it annoys me a little, but no where near as much as accidentally loosing a great sound tweak because I forgot to store a change. Does it bother you when a desktop computer application asks for confirmation before you close a changed document without saving? Personally I don't understand why all synths don't at least have the option of turning this feature on. The Virus already keeps track of the fact that you have changed a patch, it just needs to confirm that you want to throw away the change. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 01:46:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Availability/Guitar Center Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:42:34 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton Christoph Kemper Wrote: This is very interesting, because after long period of delays the availability of Virus should be100 %, at least since two or three months. My question is: Is anyone on the list that also has actual problems to get a Virus or do you know about friends that have this problem at the moment? Are there any stores that never heard about the Virus, or still have large delays? Please send your reply directly to my address, since this topic might be less interesting for the rest of the list. Thanks Christoph Kemper access music Cke9644719@aol.com ========================== This has been my observation about GC. Each one starts off as a satellite store where they hire a few yokels to run it, catering to..a certain kind of music customer. Then when the town grows up around the GC, it reaches critical mass at which point it turns into a GC superstore, catering to a...different kind of customer. It seems that sometime shortly before, during or after the conversion, the yokels find other jobs. Additionally, each store tries to hog inventory, especially hot items. The outlying stores don't have much political power because they don't have the same sales numbers so they get ignored, even if someone asks for inventory transfer for a paying customer. And because there's usually a couple of Wayne's World characters running the outlying store, they aren't so assertive. It usually helps to find out where the piece is from their computer (just ask Wayne or Garth), and then call the store manager where the gear is yourself. Don't take 'no' for an answer. If the piece is at a superstore, it will actually get sent because the superstore mgr actually has some sensitivity to the customer. He probably came from some other facet of retail where 'the customer is always right'. As it is, where I live, there are 3 superstores within driving distance, so I almost never really have this problem, unless it's a close-out piece. Well...hopes this helps. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 03:16:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:04:33 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >>How it works is you can tell the Virus to totally ignore parameter changes on any of the knobs. >Mhh, go to CTRL, SYSTEM Menu and set KNOB Mode to Off. But I still want to be able to use *some* of the knobs - i.e. the ones I choose for a particulary performance. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 03:18:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:05:59 -0800 To: dirtylist@majordomo.net, an1x-list@tl36.teklab.com, music-bar@tl36.teklab.com, access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Lost Mail Cc: a3k-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan Hi, If you've sent me anything in the last 24 hours, please re-send it. I destroyedmy mail disk this morning, and have had to restore from my last backup (which, luckily for me, was yesterday). This applies to the following e-mail addresses: jay@teklab.com jv@teklab.com (Sorry if this turns up twice - wasn't sure if its been sent already) Thanks! j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 09:00:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jeff Fletcher To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:59:54 +0200 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jeff Fletcher ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 09:45:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Millenium proof Oscillators Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:41:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Eh, Is the Virus Millenium proof? Our is the display in 1-1-2000 giving this message: "Time to see a doctor" Sorry for this Joke.... May the Virus be with you in 1999 together with some fine new sounds !! Rob Papen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl >NEW: www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm< Address: ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 Account number: Rabobank Pey-Posterholt 14.20.11.649 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ What is out our coming out: -Signature Sound-Set for Access Virus (out !!) -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for EMU EOS samplers Out very soon. -Techno Synth Construction Yard Vol.1 for AKAI samplers -The new TerraTec 4MB set programmed by Rob Papen is on the EWS-64l/xl CD 09/98 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 10:03:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:00:10 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Date of birth of the Virus Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! I was wondering, when was the Virus born? It would be nice to know when I have to buy presents for the red rascal. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 18:35:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:11:45 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >The way the OB*Mx handles it is that program changes over MIDI don't require a confirmation if knobs have been changed, but program changes from the front panel require confirmation. Sometimes it annoys me a little, but no where near as much as accidentally loosing a great sound tweak because I forgot to store a change. Hmmm. If enough people agree with you, maybe Access could add (yet) another system parameter to make this optional. Personally, I wouldn't want this to be a permanent feature (i.e. not optional). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 18:35:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:15:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >But I still want to be able to use *some* of the knobs - i.e. the ones I choose for a particulary performance. Then you are a prime candidate for a separate MIDI controller unit, Jay! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 17:04:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:46:54 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) > >The way the OB*Mx handles it is that program changes over MIDI don't require a confirmation if knobs have been changed, but program changes from the front panel require confirmation. Sometimes it annoys me a little, but no where near as much as accidentally loosing a great sound tweak because I forgot to store a change. > What about a function called RECALL LAST EDIT, that gives the possibility to bring back the last edited sound if desired and isn't annoying in any ways? I think Rolands D-50 does it by pressing SHIFT + COMPARE. Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 18:02:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:59:20 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Guido Kirsch wrote: >* From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) > >> >>The way the OB*Mx handles it is that program changes over MIDI don't require a confirmation if knobs have been changed, but program changes from the front panel require confirmation. Sometimes it annoys me a little, but no where near as much as accidentally loosing a great sound tweak because I forgot to store a change. >> > >What about a function called RECALL LAST EDIT, that gives the possibility to bring back the last edited sound if desired and isn't annoying in any ways? >I think Rolands D-50 does it by pressing SHIFT + COMPARE. > >Guido Kirsch >access music electronics Depending on how this is implemented, it could solve the problem. Maybe you could describe it in more detail? Unfortunately the Virus doesn't really have enough buttons or a big enough display to deal with all of the little features that people want to add all the time. I still want a compare function, but I don't know how you will implement it in a clean way. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 12:08:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:39:57 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >What about a function called RECALL LAST EDIT, that gives the possibility to bring back the last edited sound if desired and isn't annoying in any ways? >I think Rolands D-50 does it by pressing SHIFT + COMPARE. Guido Kirsch >access music electronics I thought of this too (as a DX7 user), but rejected the idea - remember that *any* tweak after changing to another program will edit it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 18:56:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:50:31 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton >>Unfortunately the Virus doesn't really have enough buttons or a big enough >>display to deal with all of the little features that people want to add >>all the time. I can't remember who started this suggesstion, but I do recall that whoever it was quailified his suggestion already by saying that it was something he wanted added to the list. The prioritization was to be left up to Access. When we make rebuttals to a suggestion let's keep this in mind. This being said, I understand the idea behind the Controller change idea, but it's a little different than most implementations of such a thing. For example, most synths have a page where you can turn on and off the response to certain controllers. The Z1's list of controller filters is quite long. I do see a support issue if this idea is implemented in the way suggested. For example, someone could inadvertently switch off one or more, but not all, knobs, then panic when some of the knobs start working. Then they 'call' up Access or Wolfram (TSi) for support. I think a parameter page where controller filters (send/recv) could be implemented without undue stress on the Virus CPU. Actually, if there are filters with many controllers in OFF position, the CPU will actually be more free. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 20:01:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:51:51 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >>But I still want to be able to use *some* of the knobs - i.e. the ones I choose for a particulary performance. >Jay, is this a joke? Errrmmm... no. >Where do we put all the switches for each knob? You don't need switches, maybe just a little RAM to store which knobs are being ignored. Here's how I think it would work: Hold down < and - and turn the knob you want to ignore. From that point on, any movement on that knob is ignored by the virus, until you hold down >and +, which clears *all* ignored knobs and returns the Virus to the totally knobular mode. Sorry if this is confusing, it really shouldn't be. I'm not trying to take the piss out of anything here, its just that for live performance with my Virus this would be *very* useful to me. >Is the snap-mode not sufficient for your situation? Well, it's a partial solution, but if I really turn those knobs accidentally it's still the same problem. Anyway, I don't want to make a huge deal out of this - as others have mentioned, there are other features that people want. Its just that I had this idea that *seems* easy to program (to me) and would be _another_ one of those "god, they thought of everything" features that makes the Virus so special. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 20:01:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:52:35 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 11:15 AM 1/7/99 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Howard Scarr" > >>But I still want to be able to use *some* of the knobs - i.e. the ones I choose for a particulary performance. > >Then you are a prime candidate for a separate MIDI controller unit, Jay! > Already have my PC1600x in hard core use... You saying I need to buy another one? Not a problem, they are pretty cheap after all... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 20:47:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:46:49 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh Beaumont Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hugh Beaumont ---Guido Kirsch wrote: >What about a function called RECALL LAST EDIT, that gives the possibility to bring back the last edited sound if desired and isn't annoying in any ways? >I think Rolands D-50 does it by pressing SHIFT + COMPARE. > i think this would be great. in general, i say the more features the better. :) i think the point is that the *main* features are always easy to get to. past that i think it is fine if "extra" little features are a bit buried in the menus. just as long as *all* the features are buried as with other synths. it's sorta like the step sequencer(aka arppregiator with user patterns) which i would love to some day see incorporated into the virus - i would not mind at all if it was a real pain in the ass to use because it is an "extra" feature anyway, not something in the original plan. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 7 21:57:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:48:10 -0800 To: a3k-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: TekLab will be at NAMM this year... Cc: music-bar@teklab.com, an1x-list@teklab.com, access-list@teklab.com, fss-list@teklab.com, qy-list@teklab.com, fatman-l@teklab.com, sy85-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan For those of you traveling to Los Angeles to attend NAMM this year, I'm pleased to say that TekLab will have its first booth presence! No more press-pass wearing grovelishness for me, this year I'm an Exhibitor! Swing by and say "Hi" to us - we'll be in the Yamaha pavilion, demo'ing A3kDisky and the TekLab Wizard sample CD's. I'm sure you'll be able to spot us... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 01:33:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:25:20 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:51:51 -0800, Jay continued his obvious April Fool joke rather early...: >Sorry if this is confusing, it really shouldn't be. I'm not trying to take the piss out of anything here, its just that for live performance with my Virus this would be *very* useful to me. Wow. I wonder is someone could deactivate the black notes on my piano. It would save me learning not to catch them by accident when playing in the key of C..... Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ### Email address changing soon to softroom@btinternet.com - please start to use now. ### Web page moving soon to: http://www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 01:48:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:39:07 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 12:25 AM 1/8/99 +0000, you wrote: >* From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:51:51 -0800, Jay continued his obvious April Fool joke rather early...: >>Sorry if this is confusing, it really shouldn't be. I'm not trying to take the piss out of anything here, its just that for live performance with my Virus this would be *very* useful to me. > Hey, I'm *NOT* joking. Don't try and tell me that I'm joking when I'm not, this is deadly serious. In my Guinness-induced stupor, I have wiggled the wrong knob on occasion and royally screwed up what was once a perfectly amazing sound. >Wow. I wonder is someone could deactivate the black notes on my piano. It would save me learning not to catch them by accident when playing in the key of C..... Okay, now *you're* taking the piss... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 02:15:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:11:59 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton >>Wow. I wonder is someone could deactivate the black notes on my piano. >>It would save me learning not to catch them by accident when playing in the key of C..... >> >>Paul heh-heh-heh ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 16:17:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 04:08:33 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:39 AM +0100 on 08.01.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >Hey, I'm *NOT* joking. Don't try and tell me that I'm joking when I'm not, this is deadly serious. In my Guinness-induced stupor, I have wiggled the The answer is right there. Stop getting drunk *before* a gig. The audience will be grateful as well...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 05:14:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:11:06 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Jay suggested... >a new feature for the Virus: > > "Ignore Controller Change" Sorry, I think this is a pretty pointless idea. I would make more mistakes and screw-ups with this. >I mean, I use my Virus for live playback, as an instrument, and this would really help me out during those "too many beers before the gig, getting very excited about this buildup, swagger swagger oops I just hit the wrong knob" moments I'm prone to experiencing... Solutions: 1. Stop drinking beer and start smoking pot instead. 2. Use an external MIDI controller with fewer knobs. 3. Go to a plastic surgeon and have the size of your fingers reduced. 4. Pay someone to hit you when you play wrong. Soon you will learn self-discipline. 5. Drop acid before the gig. EVERYTHING will sound cool. 6. Use the Assign 1/2/3 features to do your important control changes. 7. Filter the CCs in your sequencer. 8. Cancel the gig and stay home inventing new sounds. 9. Buy acid for the audience and they will think everything you do is fabulous. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 09:59:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 00:57:46 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla unsubscribe synthwerks@earthlink.net ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ NORTH AMERICAN PRODUCT SUPPORT FOR WALDORF AND ACCESS PRODUCTS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 22:06:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:03:10 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! At 04:08 8-1-99 +0100, you wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:39 AM +0100 on 08.01.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >>Hey, I'm *NOT* joking. Don't try and tell me that I'm joking when I'm not, this is deadly serious. In my Guinness-induced stupor, I have wiggled the >The answer is right there. Stop getting drunk *before* a gig. The audience will be grateful as well...;) Hmm, I don't agree. Getting drunk from _Guinness_ can get you to great creative things. I even dare to say that without Guinness, the Virus wouldn't exist at all! I have an other solution: A knob-less virus. Just a module, without knobs. A red box. :-) Say, that woulnd't be such a stupid idea at all! If you have too little voices, buy the Virus expander! I think I am gonna make a list of idea's of hardware access could develop, suggested by the list. I quote some earlier messages: 1. The ASS (Access Step Sequencer) - should be exactly the same size and format as the Virus 2. The AVK (Access Virus Keyboard) - with a *tray* behind the keys to accomodate a Virus and an ASS, next to each other 3. The prion, successor of this virus, functionality still unknown. 4. A virus-expander (name?)- A virus without knobs. Next to the existing virus. More voices. Dumps can be sent to it from the virus. Controlled by controller-MIDI-out on virus. 5 A Virus sampler (name?) - Much like this virus, but a sampler between or in stead of the oscillators. And a lot of cool sampling features of course. Like tape filter for generation-loss like accoustics, etc, or...? 6 A access-helicopter (Idea of access itself. I think they especially want to use it themselves) 7 did i forget something?? 8 More ideas? Look at the EVP page for the latest ideas! Ohyeah, EVP members, the meeting will be in about march/april. Suggestions or the date? http://145.99.128.7/evp Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 23:09:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virtual LFO/ENV Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:03:43 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton While you're waiting for them extra LFO's/ENVs in the OS. In another discussion forum, this guy had an interesting idea that adds synched "LFO"s to you synth. Basically what you do is create a virtual LFO out of a repeating cycle of MIDI CC messages in the waveform you wish. He uses Cakewalk and claims to simply draw the waveform. You would then need to repeat this "waveform" for the duration needed (of the measure or whatever). Map the CC messages to whatever you'd like to control. Certain 'waveforms' such as random would be difficult to implement, but in this case you could use the synth's LFO for this function and apply a simple saw or square 'wave' via the Virtual LFO. You do use this technique to create perfectly synched ENVs where each stage of the ENV occurs in synch with tempo. This way you don't have to keep adjusting your patch. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 8 23:41:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:39:36 +0100 From: stef Organization: netwhere To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef Dimitri Sijperda wrote: > >* From Dimitri Sijperda >I have an other solution: A knob-less virus. Just a module, without knobs. A red box. :-) I would like this one: A voice-less virus. Just knobs, without synthesis engine. For easy access of all parameters that are hidden behind the display of your standard virus. Or for editing multiple sounds at once. :-) stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 9 03:21:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Question about Sound Character Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:18:04 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" I was at a friend's house last night where we were listening to his Virus and his Nord Lead. This is the first time for a while I have played with a Nord, and I know much more about making sounds than the last time. It sounded very interesting, more 'hard' than the virus, very bright. I prefer the fat warm tone of the virus, but it is also good to have contrast in music. I very much like to hear a hard quality in a kick drum and and a little in the bass, then a lot of warm sounds which to give the 'feel' of the piece. A hard or 'sharp' sound that contrasts tonally with the others intensifies the feeling of acoustic space for me. Distortion can be good but it is not my favorite sound. I wonder what other Virus users and sound designers think of to make the sound more 'sharply defined'. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 9 05:16:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:10:54 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Question about Sound Character Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn > > >I wonder what other Virus users and sound designers think of to make the sound more 'sharply defined'. APhex Aural Exciter....It's the shizz, that and I tend to use the saturation on digital or sharper ALOT.... CRaZyJOn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 9 17:24:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 17:20:26 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change" X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >Hey, I'm *NOT* joking. Don't try and tell me that I'm joking when I'm not, this is deadly serious. In my Guinness-induced stupor, I have wiggled the wrong knob on occasion and royally screwed up what was once a perfectly amazing sound. > Well, the easiest way to get out of this would be to tell your barkeeper to deactivate his Guiness Knob and give you a coke instead! Guido Kirsch access music electronics P.S. i AM joking. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 9 22:39:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:37:44 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Op Fri, 8 Jan 1999, stef schreef: >* From stef >I would like this one: >A voice-less virus. Just knobs, without synthesis engine. For easy access of all parameters that are hidden behind the display of your standard virus. >Or for editing multiple sounds at once. :-) That's not a bad idea at all! I've been thinking about that regularly: A panel with knobs for the hidden features. Or even a second panel with all features, so you don't have to switch the multi or multi-single. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 10 07:04:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:00:37 -0700 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Doug Masla Subject: Re: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") Cc: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Doug Masla At 10:37 PM +0100 01/09/1999, Dimitri wrote: >* From Dimitri > > > >Op Fri, 8 Jan 1999, stef schreef: >>* From stef >>I would like this one: >>A voic:e-less virus. Just knobs, without synthesis engine. For easy access of all parameters that are hidden behind the display of your standard virus. >>Or for editing multiple sounds at once. :-) >That's not a bad idea at all! I've been thinking about that regularly: A panel with knobs for the hidden features. Or even a second panel with all features, so you don't have to switch the multi or multi-single. > >Dimitri. > >>Dimitri: >Sounds like you could use the Doepfer DREBANK 64 assingable knobs with an editor on the Pc also runs on Mac platform under softwindows (doepfer.com)...check it out! Doug Masla ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ONE-O-EIGHT MUSIC INC.-VENICE CALIFORNIA MUSIC PRODUCTION AND SOUND DESIGNE FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ NORTH AMERICAN PRODUCT SUPPORT FOR WALDORF AND ACCESS PRODUCTS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 10 10:47:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:46:06 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: Access Virus List Subject: Galaxy module 1.4 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht Hi all, in response to problems (occuring after upgrading to 1.58 or 2.0x) i have revised the Galaxy module.. you can download it at www.pan.com/saliter/virus.html. regards .g.a. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 11 08:19:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:17:51 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht >>Doepfer DREHBANK >>also runs on Mac platform under softwindows (doepfer.com)...check it out! Doug Masla Hehehehehehehe! will run like all these PC CD-ROMs (not the realtime games, just the infotainment type). before i did not see that i would not believe it - or do you work with this solution, Doug? fact is. if you can program it in hardware (or by sysex etc.) it will run everywhere... if you need PC-only software it maybe cheaper to buy a small used PC (think they pay you if you take their 486) than to spend time & money on softwindows.... but thats just my opinion. regards .g.a. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 11 09:40:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:38:35 +0100 From: canine To: access-list , Guenther Albrecht X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00001976 Subject: OT:softwindows Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From canine >===== Original Message From Guenther Albrecht ===== * From Guenther Albrecht > >>>Doepfer DREHBANK >>>also runs on Mac platform under softwindows (doepfer.com)...check it out! Doug Masla >Hehehehehehehe! >will run like all these PC CD-ROMs (not the realtime games, just the Actually things have improved quite a bit there. It depends what you are doing and what type computer you have. On a G3 (not even the pillowshaped ones, but the older ones) Virtual PC (which I think runs a wee bit faster than softwindows) works ok. Not like a Pentium II 300MHz, but it's usable. Possibly this leads too far though...;) canine ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 11 11:58:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Originating-IP: [196.3.167.135] From: "Pierre Zeeman" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:51:12 PST Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Pierre Zeeman" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 11 18:49:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:44:51 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton It seems like the Matrix Programmer could be adapted without much development. The ROM could be reprogrammed to handle this job quite easily. The box would need a new silk screen. But how many people are going to shell out $500+ for this kind of control? As much as I want a Matrix Programmer, it's hard to justify. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dimitri [mailto:di-mi@dds.nl] >>Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 1:38 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") >> >> >>* From Dimitri >> >> >> >>Op Fri, 8 Jan 1999, stef schreef: >>>* From stef >>>I would like this one: >>>A voice-less virus. Just knobs, without synthesis engine. For easy access of all parameters that are hidden behind the display of your standard virus. >>>Or for editing multiple sounds at once. :-) >>That's not a bad idea at all! I've been thinking about that regularly: A >>panel with knobs for the hidden features. Or even a second panel with all >>features, so you don't have to switch the multi or multi-single. >> >>Dimitri. >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 11 19:08:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Guiness, Virus, EVP (Re: Feature Request - "Ignore Controller Change") Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:05:52 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" >3. The prion, successor of this virus, functionality still unknown. Hahaha! Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 11 19:46:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Question about Sound Character Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:43:45 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Crazy John wrote... >APhex Aural Exciter....It's the shizz, Really? I thought that was for lame producers to spice up their mixes with. I'll go listen to one sometime. >that and I tend to use the saturation on digital or sharper ALOT.... I have never been able to get much interesting out of the shaper - all the sound seems very thin and adjusting the filter does not seem to make much difference. I will play more. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 00:13:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:07:49 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Question about Sound Character Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn Anig Browl wrote: >* From "Anig Browl" > >Crazy John wrote... >>APhex Aural Exciter....It's the shizz, > >Really? I thought that was for lame producers to spice up their mixes with. I'll go listen to one sometime. > I think alot of people tend to abuse it, (esp by running a whole mix through one) but I tend to only use it on one or two sounds in the mix (usually to make one sound boom....and the second to sweeten the mid-highs...) I tend to tweak the highs during preformance (great for acid....) > >>that and I tend to use the saturation on digital or sharper ALOT.... > >I have never been able to get much interesting out of the shaper - all the sound seems very thin and adjusting the filter does not seem to make much difference. I will play more. > Thats one of the things that I like to use the sharper for...there was a preset in the factory patches call syn 4 (or something..crispy is another good example) I changed both of them to sharper for a kind of AM radio synth.... but I'm kinda getting into distortion these days.....next tracks gonna be the distorted acidik dubish thing...... Peace CraZyJon > >Anig Browl > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 05:11:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: "Access" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:59:17 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 12:21:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:17:54 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: OT: 01v related mailinglist wanted Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Hi list, I am wondering if any of you out there know about a mailinglist that deals with digital mixers and includes the Yamaha 01v? If cou do, pölease let me know. If you don't and are interested in such a list, please let me know as well, since I will try to have one set up then. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 13:47:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:40:48 +0100 From: stef Organization: netwhere To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: 01v related mailinglist wanted Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: >I am wondering if any of you out there know about a mailinglist that deals with digital mixers and includes the Yamaha 01v? If cou do, pölease let me I'm interested, too. stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 14:11:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Boehm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: 01v related mailinglist wanted Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:10:09 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Boehm Thomas-Lars I would go for this list, too. Up to buy one I have a lot of questions to ask ;-) Greetings, TL-Bee ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 15:37:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:33:28 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RE: 01v related mailinglist wanted Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 1/12/99 1:15:36 PM, Thomas-Lars.Boehm@dyckerhoff.de writes: <> Wow, I just bought one, hope to have it delivered this week! Maybe we should start calling this the Virus/01V list?????? (just kidding, of course!). But please let me know, I would be very interested also! Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 21:46:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pete@voicenet.com (Peter Calderwood) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: 01v related mailinglist wanted Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:44:30 GMT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pete@voicenet.com (Peter Calderwood) I just ordered a virus too, hope I get it soon... now all i need is a drum machine, mixer, sequencer, and sampler :) On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:33:28 EST, you wrote: >* From Marzzz@aol.com > > >In a message dated 1/12/99 1:15:36 PM, Thomas-Lars.Boehm@dyckerhoff.de writes: > ><Up to buy one I have a lot of questions to ask ;-) >>> > >Wow, I just bought one, hope to have it delivered this week! Maybe we should start calling this the Virus/01V list?????? (just kidding, of course!). But please let me know, I would be very interested also! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 22:43:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:36:58 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: OT: 01v related mailinglist wanted To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes I think there is already a list for the Yamaha line of digital mixers. I would not mind an O1v specific list, as long as there where good tips to be shared... BTW: Using the Omni outs & aux sends (set to pre-fader), can give your whole kit "Access" to the Virus inputs without re-routing any cables. Works great with the Vocoder too. I have been using this extensively... Rick >with digital mixers and includes the Yamaha 01v? If cou do, p–lease let me >know. If you don't and are interested in such a list, please let me know >as well, since I will try to have one set up then. > > > > >think different! > >Canine > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 12 22:39:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:39:01 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: RE: Question about Sound Character To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes Please, that's like saying only lame producers use EQ, Delay, etc. It's just an effect. Over use will kill it, subtle use is nice... Where the Shaper is concerned, Osc Volume and Resonance (filter one) seem to provide the most dramatic tonal changes. I funk'n love the shaper. Very FMish. I can get it to sound sick... Rick > >Really? I thought that was for lame producers to spice up their mixes with. >I'll go listen to one sometime. > >>that and I tend to use the saturation on digital or sharper ALOT.... > >I have never been able to get much interesting out of the shaper - all the >sound seems very thin and adjusting the filter does not seem to make much >difference. I will play more. > >Anig Browl > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 00:26:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:26:43 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: List statistics Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" To give you an idea who you are all dealing with, I have gotten into the habit of doing a little statistic now and then about the members of this list. a total of 217 people are subscribed. Their email addresses indicate they are from the following top level domains: .com: 72 .net: 37 .org: 3 .edu: 4 or the following countries: Germany: 51 Netherlands: 13 Sweden: 6 Belgium: 5 Canada: 3 UK: 3 The rest is from various countries from Finland to New Zealand, but for people's privacy's sake I prefer not to list this. Post to the list if you want to get in touch with someone from your area...;) now: how come there are so many people from the new world on this list? the Virus is from europe, where are all the euros? hmmm In my mailbox (which should be pretty accurate, I am person number two on the list) the access list has collected 2655 messages or 6544K of email data (not counting attachments). This means there was an average of about 8 mails per day or a total of 12 emails per subscriber so far. Maybe statistics are just a waste of time here...;) This is getting a bit Dilbert-esque...;) but maybe this is useful info to some. At least this shows how many people are in the Germany/Netherlands area that might be interested to join us in Amsterdam for the EVP meeting...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 00:47:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: Subject: Re: List statistics Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:44:26 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" >now: how come there are so many people from the new world on this list? the Virus is from europe, where are all the euros? hmmm maybe its because of tyranical hoard of resources we in the new world abuse, making us able to afford all kinds of synths, etc. :) daniel cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 01:18:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: List statistics Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:14:55 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton I have a feeling it's because so many other things, fuel and food being prime examples, are so much more affordable in the States. This has the impact of making the Virus more affordable. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Terminal Bliss [mailto:terminal@xnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:44 PM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: List statistics >> >> >>* From "Terminal Bliss" >> >> >>>now: how come there are so many people from the new world >>on this list? the >>>Virus is from europe, where are all the euros? hmmm >> >> >>maybe its because of tyranical hoard of resources we in the new world abuse, >>making us able to afford all kinds of synths, etc. :) >> >> >> >>daniel cain >>terminal@xnet.com >>www.xnet.com/~terminal >> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 01:28:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:20:43 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: List statistics Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >now: how come there are so many people from the new world on this list? the Virus is from europe, where are all the euros? hmmm > Just because they're on the list doesn't mean they actually have Viruses. Perhaps they're on the list to check out what's going on with the synth scene in Europe, because the US is so sparse for this sort of stuff right now. You'd be better off doing a form-based survey to find where all the Virii are - I think you'll discover the Europe has the lead. Virii aren't that well known over here in the US. I'll never forget walking into a Guitar Center, and watching all the muso's propagate around the Alesis and Kawai stuff, with a Virus sitting right on top, and I asked a guy what he thought of it all - his response for the Virus was "thats a good 'lead' synth, but not very good at anything else..." Clueless Americans, I tell you... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 02:14:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: List statistics Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:11:01 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jay Vaughan [mailto:jay@teklab.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:21 PM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: List statistics >> >> >>* From Jay Vaughan >> >>>now: how come there are so many people from the new world >>on this list? the >>>Virus is from europe, where are all the euros? hmmm >>> >> >>Just because they're on the list doesn't mean they actually have Viruses. Touche! >>Perhaps they're on the list to check out what's going on with the synth >>scene in Europe, because the US is so sparse for this sort of stuff right now. >> >>You'd be better off doing a form-based survey to find where all the Virii >>are - I think you'll discover the Europe has the lead. Virii aren't that >>well known over here in the US. >> >>I'll never forget walking into a Guitar Center, and watching all the muso's >>propagate around the Alesis and Kawai stuff, Can't you be arrested for doing this in public? nevermind... >>with a Virus >>sitting right on >>top, and I asked a guy what he thought of it all - his response for the >>Virus was "thats a good 'lead' synth, but not very good at anything else..." >> >>Clueless Americans, I tell you... Hmm...Yes I made a logic jump but let's try this one. All Guitar Center employees are Americans and All GC employees are clueless, therefore all Americans are clueless...yeah..I guess that works. (:~@ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 02:17:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:14:16 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: List statistics Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 1/12/99 5:31:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, jay@teklab.com writes: << Clueless Americans, I tell you... >> I am an official representative of Americans With A Clue and our organization was deeply offended by this. We resemble this remark. ;-) Zon in Arizona (in the US) with his Virus! (and loving it!!) (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 02:35:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:32:46 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: OT: 01v related mailinglist wanted Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:36 PM +0100 on 12.01.1999 Rick Reyes wrote: >* From Rick Reyes > > > >I think there is already a list for the Yamaha line of digital mixers. I would not mind an O1v specific list, as long as there where good tips to be shared... I think since the Yamaha line of mixers share a lot of features, and I have to admit that I am interested in the 02R since I only bought the 01v since I couldn't afford the 02R, I wouldn't mind joining a list that is about the entire line of mixers. They would probably have some FAQs collected already... so... do you have any more information on that? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 03:01:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Paul Brousseau To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: List statistics && where to purchase Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:58:57 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Paul Brousseau Hey, I wanna join AWAC! I don't work for Guitar Center! But I don't have a Virus yet... :( obVirus: So I've been thinking about the pros and cons of purchasing a Virus in a "real store" vs. mail order. I think I can find the best price via mail order, but general wisdom says that you get terribly after-the-purchase service from mail-order. I had to take back my A3000 sampler when I first bought it, but it was an open-box... (I.E., maybe someone else had returned it before I got it). Have Virus owners had any trouble with their Virus, such that it needs to go back to the dealer? I get the impression that they're generally well built machines. If that's the case, then I'll likely mail order a Virus, which means paying less, which means getting it sooner! :) --PBr >-----Original Message----- >From: Synthworld@aol.com [SMTP:Synthworld@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 5:14 PM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: List statistics > >* From Synthworld@aol.com > >In a message dated 1/12/99 5:31:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, jay@teklab.com writes: > ><< Clueless Americans, I tell you... >> > >I am an official representative of Americans With A Clue and our organization >was deeply offended by this. We resemble this remark. > >;-) > >Zon in Arizona (in the US) with his Virus! (and loving it!!) (Synthworld@aol.com) > > >______________________________________________________________________ _____ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 03:15:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:12:40 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Vocoder usage, Bank Swapping, Vocoder labelling Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall I wasn't paying too much attention the first time this was discussed on the list because I hadn't installed the 2.0X upgrade yet, but now I need to know more about the vocoder. I was trying to get the vocoder set up with an internally generated carrier and an external modulator. I set the input mode to dynamic and input a signal from a CD into IN L. With the vocoder in OSC mode I can't detect any changes in the sound from the pitch changes of the keys that I press. I also can't detect any change from the waveform knobs. Do I need to use the AUX IN from another Virus voice to get a fully working carrier? Is OSC mode somehow a very crippled voice? I did notice that it is polyphonic - it at least gets louder as you press more keys. Part of the problem is that I didn't want to pick through the programs that I already have created in the Virus and back them up separatly in order to load the new sounds banks. I would have been easier if Access designated one of the banks to be a "user" bank and the other to be a "factory" bank. Am I missing something? What exactly does the bank swap command do? Does it replace the "working" patch bank with the one that is hidden or does it actually swap it in and out? Are there really more locations to store patches in? Will there be factory supplied labels to add the legends for the new vocoder functions? When Clavia went from the original Nord Lead to the 2.0 version of the OS they created labels for the old machines and updated the silkscreening on the newer machines. Of course, being a ROM upgrade they charged for it, but maybe someone could come up with a clean solution and charge about 10USD with shipping. (Note, I'm talking about the original Nord Lead not the Nord Lead II - the 2.0 revision of the original machine was a software only upgrade by swapping the ROMS, the "Nord Lead II" was a hardware change - not quite as confusing as Apple, which has put out about 20 different machines all labeled "G3" in the last year or two) Right now I just have a bunch of white tape with labels on my machine, but I would prefer something a little more prefessional. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 04:59:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: Subject: Re: List statistics Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:57:09 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" jay vaughan said: >I'll never forget walking into a Guitar Center, and watching all the muso's propagate around the Alesis and Kawai stuff, with a Virus sitting right on top, and I asked a guy what he thought of it all - his response for the Virus was "thats a good 'lead' synth, but not very good at anything else..." > >Clueless Americans, I tell you... as i said previously, i think this has something to do with guitar center. last weekend i was in dire need of some cdrs, so i went into guitar center to get the brand i use cheap.. i already knew they were out of the 100 on a spindle, so i asked him for some single cdrs of the brand i use in jewel cases... he goes and grabs a bunch of cdrws... when i notify him of his mistake, he goes.. "oh plain cdrs?" i swear im going to end up killing an employee there next time i ever walk into that store.. so if you hear about it on the news.. have pity.. daniel cain terminal@xnet.com www.xnet.com/~terminal ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 05:18:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:10:12 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: List statistics Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 09:57 PM 1/12/99 -0600, you wrote: >* From "Terminal Bliss" jay vaughan said: >>I'll never forget walking into a Guitar Center, and watching all the muso's propagate around the Alesis and Kawai stuff, with a Virus sitting right on top, and I asked a guy what he thought of it all - his response for the Virus was "thats a good 'lead' synth, but not very good at anything >else..." >>Clueless Americans, I tell you... >as i said previously, i think this has something to do with guitar center. last weekend i was in dire need of some cdrs, so i went into guitar center to get the brand i use cheap.. i already knew they were out of the 100 on a spindle, so i asked him for some single cdrs of the brand i use in jewel cases... he goes and grabs a bunch of cdrws... when i notify him of his mistake, he goes.. "oh plain cdrs?" No no, these were just customers that I'd observed, in Guitar Center. Maybe they try to match the cluelessness of their salespeople to the general populace cluelessness? I dunno, all I know is that I'm going to be shopping at Sam Ash more often now. >i swear im going to end up killing an employee there next time i ever walk into that store.. so if you hear about it on the news.. have pity.. Heh heh... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 23:04:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Cc: Subject: Guitar Center (was: Re: List statistics) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:37:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" (Taken to the music bar.) >* From "Terminal Bliss" > >as i said previously, i think this has something to do with guitar center. last weekend i was in dire need of some cdrs, so i went into guitar center to get the brand i use cheap.. i already knew they were out of the 100 on a spindle, so i asked him for some single cdrs of the brand i use in jewel cases... he goes and grabs a bunch of cdrws... when i notify him of his mistake, he goes.. "oh plain cdrs?" So we have Turnkey in the UK who are plain rude, and Guitar Center in the USA who are plain stupid. Does someone else have horror stories about music stores? >i swear im going to end up killing an employee there next time i ever walk into that store.. so if you hear about it on the news.. have pity.. You don't happen to be a postal worker, do you? :-) - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 20:31:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:24:45 +0100 From: Unkas Gemmeker X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Another suggestion Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Unkas Gemmeker >Definetely no. >As mentioned yesterday, you will not loose any sound if you enter the multi mode, this is not intended and was never reported since yesterday, so I don' t believe that you found a bug here. Sorry, youīre right. The loose of sounds happend in an early os-version and in my fear on it I didn`t recognized that itīs fixed. > >>What happend to the possibility to change the Soundbank from A to B by pressing >>single+parameter in OS 2.01? >>I liked this and I had never problems with this. > >This is actually an interesting question :) Mhh, what happened ? :( > >This function fell out by accident while we included the possibility to change programs by the value poti when you press the SINGLE button simultaneous. (Joerg did it, but he didn't tell me, so it was not documented in the ReadMe.) This function was actually a suggestion from somebody on the mailing list. He is the responsible, who was it ???!?:) >Ahm, we will restore the old bank funktion and keep the new feature in the next version. o.k.? > definatly yes. Thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 20:51:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Real audio of soundset Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:47:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" Hi list, I did put on my webpage a real audio file which you can download. It's from my Signature Set for the Access Virus. For the EMU EOS sampler users: you can load a high quality real audio file of the upcoming ROB PAPEN CD-ROM. Just go to my page and click on the page you want. With best regards, Rob Papen ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) -TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm - Very soon you will find my on: www.robpapen.com ___________________________________ Address: Rob Papen Sound-Design & Music Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt Holland (Europe) Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 21:54:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: Real audio of soundset Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:51:26 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" Very nice stuff! I am glad that you put a demo online as this is what is needed I believe before one will pay for news sounds. Again, great sounding stuff. Also, was that demo done using only the virus? Was any outside effects, etc. used? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Papen To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 3:11 PM Subject: Real audio of soundset >* From "Rob Papen" > >Hi list, > >I did put on my webpage a real audio file which you can download. It's from my Signature Set for the Access Virus. > >For the EMU EOS sampler users: you can load a high quality real audio file of the upcoming ROB PAPEN CD-ROM. > >Just go to my page and click on the page you want. > >With best regards, > >Rob Papen >___________________________________ >ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC >Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl > >What is new our coming out soon: > >- EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) > >- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) > >-TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 > >- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm > >- Very soon you will find my on: www.robpapen.com ___________________________________ >Address: >Rob Papen Sound-Design & Music >Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt >Holland (Europe) >Tel: 00-31 475410188 >Fax: 00-31 475410089 >___________________________________ > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 21:58:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:56:39 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: new OS To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus hey.... ne1 know how to get the new OS onto the virus??... its says that cakewalk CANT do it.. i tried anyway .. they were right :P...... so what could i use.... i checked for cubase demo.. but they dont have it on their site.... and the copy that i have crashes every time i open it.... is there another way i could do it??.. or do i NEED cubase?... i even tired media player in windows... that didnt seem to work.... every time i tried to install it... it would start to install... but soon as the virus showed 13% complete.. the virus would freeze...... the player would keep on sending but the virus wouldnt accept it...... if u know what i could do to fix that... or what i need to do to get the new OS onto the virus that would be great i really wanna test out the new vocoder feature :) thanx Eric _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 22:56:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:54:14 +0100 From: stef Organization: netwhere To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: os update procedure Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef I don't know how to handle the file 'secon20x.mid'. 'The singles and multis included in the 'secon20x.mid' are stored into the flash-rom the same way as the operating system.' Do i have to upload this file directly after first20x.mid ? Or with a new off/holdstore/on - procedure? They only say: 'If the version number of your previous OS was 1.12 or lower, you are asked to load file "secon20x.mid" right after switching on the Virus again.` I don't have version <=1.12, so what should i do? stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 13 23:30:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Terminal Bliss" To: Subject: Re: Guitar Center (was: Re: List statistics) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:27:55 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Terminal Bliss" >>i swear im going to end up killing an employee there next time i ever walk into that store.. so if you hear about it on the news.. have pity.. > >You don't happen to be a postal worker, do you? :-) > >- Peter well, a few years ago i did work for an international remail company... heh. daniel cain terminal@xnet.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 00:22:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:44:50 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: Re: os update procedure Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From michael wolf >* From stef > >I don't know how to handle the file 'secon20x.mid'. > just handle it the the very same way that you would handle first20x.mid. just like the readme says: >'The singles and multis included in the 'secon20x.mid' are stored into the flash-rom the same way as the operating system.' thats pretty unambiguous, isnt it? >Do i have to upload this file directly after first20x.mid ? i guess you can store it any time you want to. (but storing the sounds for os 2.01 without first having stored os 2.01 doesnt seem to make too much sense) mic. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 00:42:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:11:07 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Philipp Mott ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:05:43 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Philipp Mott ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Wed Jan 13 02:05:39 1999 >Received: from infooffice.crocodial.de (poschta.crocodial.de [193.99.153.102]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA04916 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:05:37 -0800 Received: from blei.crocodial.de (unverified) by infooffice.crocodial.de >(Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; >Mi, 13 Jan 1999 11:01:19 +0100 >Received: from chlor.crocodial.de (IDENT:root@cray157.crocodial.de [193.99.153.157] (may be forged)) > by blei.crocodial.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA28176 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:58:38 +0100 Received: from joern (JOERN.crocodial.de [193.99.153.133] (may be forged)) by chlor.crocodial.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA12171 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:58:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:57:34 +0100 >From: Philipp Mott To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Tips&Tricks: External Effects >Message-Id: <369C6E0E3E1.02ABP.MOTT@chlor.crocodial.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I needed an easy way to attach an external effect to the VIRUS and control the effect amount of all multi parts individually via MIDI. Here ist the solution: > >- Switch to multi mode >- Activate delay with 0ms delay time >- Set the delay's output to output 2 >- Connect external effects to output 2 >- Control effect amount using the delay effect send parameter >(Controller 113). > >I haven't checked wether you can use the input connectors for FX return- I just return my FX to my mixing console. > >You don't have your delay effect anymore, but then again you have an external FX send. You might want to set up a logic environment or a Cubase Mixermap to control your FX send values remotely. > > >Have fun > > Philipp j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 01:05:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:53:03 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Guitar Center (was: Re: List statistics) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 1/13/99 10:10:07 PM, pkorsten@xs4all.nl writes: <> World's worst music store: Apple Music in Portland, Oregon. I wanted to try a guitar, something like a PRS. THEY WOULDN'T LET ME. Incredible rudeness coupled with complete stupidity.......they are legend in the US. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 00:58:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: os update procedure - ATTN Access Support Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:54:38 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton I suggest the standard and tested methods as well as the ones which don't work be included in the README file. It seems most users are reading this, unusual as that may be. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: michael wolf [mailto:michael.wolf@rz.hu-berlin.de] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 2:45 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: os update procedure >> >> >>* From michael wolf >> >>>* From stef >>> >>>I don't know how to handle the file 'secon20x.mid'. >>> >> >>just handle it the the very same way that you would handle first20x.mid. >>just like the readme says: >> >>>'The singles and multis included in the 'secon20x.mid' are >>stored into >>>the flash-rom the same way as the operating system.' >> >>thats pretty unambiguous, isnt it? >> >>>Do i have to upload this file directly after first20x.mid ? >> >>i guess you can store it any time you want to. (but storing the sounds for >>os 2.01 without first having stored os 2.01 doesnt seem to make too much >>sense) >> >>mic. >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 00:58:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: os update procedure - ATTN Access Support Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:54:38 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton I suggest the standard and tested methods as well as the ones which don't work be included in the README file. It seems most users are reading this, unusual as that may be. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: michael wolf [mailto:michael.wolf@rz.hu-berlin.de] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 2:45 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: os update procedure >> >> >>* From michael wolf >> >>>* From stef >>> >>>I don't know how to handle the file 'secon20x.mid'. >>> >> WARNING: The remainder of this 4K message has not been transferred, because there was not enough disk space. Make more space and check mail again to get the whole thing.X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 01:24:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:16:47 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Guitar Center (was: Re: List statistics) Cc: music-bar@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 06:53 PM 1/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >* From Marzzz@aol.com >In a message dated 1/13/99 10:10:07 PM, pkorsten@xs4all.nl writes: <> >World's worst music store: Apple Music in Portland, Oregon. I wanted to try a guitar, something like a PRS. THEY WOULDN'T LET ME. Incredible rudeness coupled with complete stupidity.......they are legend in the US. I think this warrants moving to music-bar at this point ... its not very Access Virus related. Seems to me though, that someone should put up a web site for musicians that documents the really, really bad music stores that are out there... something like a list of crap music stores, with real stories about your experiences with these places - so that other musicians don't get duped into shopping there. Maybe then we'd see a change in quality ... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 03:37:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:36:12 -0800 (PST) From: Cyngus Cyngus Subject: hmmm os prob To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Cyngus Cyngus last message got messed up i think... what program do i need to install the new os?.. i cant seem to get cubase to werk.. it keeps crashing.. is there anythign else??... i tried to use windows media player.. but it dont seem to werk either... the virus hangs when it reaches 13% ... the media player keeps sending but the virus stops.. its weird... if there is another program that i could get... (thats free) or maby a werking demo of cubase some whar.. thanx Eric _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 09:35:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:31:57 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Spot the Virus Competition Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Look: www.synthfool.com/ke See it? How can he possibly use all that stuff ???? !!!! LoLife ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 13:17:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: Real audio of soundset Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:13:31 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: lauger Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: woensdag 13 januari 1999 22:08 Onderwerp: Re: Real audio of soundset |* From "lauger" | |Very nice stuff! I am glad that you put a demo online as this is what is |needed I believe before one will pay for news sounds. Again, great |sounding stuff. Thanks for the compliment. Great sounding stuff is only possible with a great sounding synth. | |Also, was that demo done using only the virus? Was any outside |effects, etc. used? No, it is directly recorded from the Virus. In Soundforge I made a Real audio file of it. I did want to put on the webpage also a higher quality Real Audio version, but therefore is no room on the page. Rob Papen | |Thanks. | |-----Original Message----- |From: Rob Papen |To: access-list@teklab.com |Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 3:11 PM |Subject: Real audio of soundset | | |>* From "Rob Papen" |> |>Hi list, |> |>I did put on my webpage a real audio file which you can download. It's from |>my Signature Set for the Access Virus. |> |>For the EMU EOS sampler users: you can load a high quality real audio file |>of the upcoming ROB PAPEN CD-ROM. |> |>Just go to my page and click on the page you want. |> |>With best regards, |> |>Rob Papen |>___________________________________ |>ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC |>Homepage: http://www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen |>E-mail: robpapen@multiweb.nl |> |>What is new our coming out soon: |> |>- EMU EOS CD-ROM Rob Papen (very soon, see homepage) |> |>- Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) |> |>-TerraTec 4MB set for EWS-64L/XL is on TerraTec CD 09/98 |> |>- Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.multiweb.nl/~robpapen/reactions.htm |> |>- Very soon you will find my on: www.robpapen.com |>___________________________________ |>Address: |>Rob Papen Sound-Design & Music |>Ligusterstraat 96 NL-6101 MC Echt |>Holland (Europe) |>Tel: 00-31 475410188 |>Fax: 00-31 475410089 |>___________________________________ |> |>__________________________________________________________________________ _ |>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 14:30:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:20:53 +0100 From: stef Organization: netwhere To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Second File Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >The Virus will automatically detect, whether it receives an OS or a Second File. Thank you! That explains exactly the point i didn't understand. stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 15:52:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Mike478640@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:48:30 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: List statistics && where to purchase Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mike478640@aol.com hello list. i got my virus from guitar center in san jose, california, it was in an open box, but never had any trouble after playing with it for more than 8 months. That was the only way i was gonna be able to get this synth without having to wait more than 4 months, who knows, maybe even more. Try and buy it from the main distributor in the USA., you shouldnt have any problem with it. see ya. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 15:51:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:52:42 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: New demo files posted Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" For all of you complaining about the sound quality of Rob's realaudio demo, I'm giving you something to complain about: download time...;) I just put up two new soundfiles: Rob's demo song for his Signature Set for the Virus (1300K) and a Vocoder Demo by Frank Katzer (990K). Both are in MP3 format, and all you windows users, please be careful with the file, these tend to break when you download them with Netscape's Navigator. As much as I hate to do it I must ask you to use the Microsoft equivalent instead..., unfortunately I can't give you an FTP alternative. Enjoy the sounds and tell everyone on the list what you think of them. all the best... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 16:07:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Mike478640@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:04:38 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Guitar Center (was: Re: List statistics) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mike478640@aol.com hello. i think this is a great idea, if music strore managers get to see their stores and in the 'black list', maybe they will hire people with real knowledge and profesionalism to work at their music stores.. =) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 16:18:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Mike478640@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:14:06 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mike478640@aol.com hello. i used cubase vst 3.6 on a pc to upgrade to 2.0x, try using it at the slowest tempo you can, i think i started upgrading it at tempo 60, then when it crashed i would decrease the tempo by 5, 55...50...45..., i dont remember wich one worked for me. let me know if it works for you so next time i upgrade, i'll know at what tempo to do the run the seq. see ya. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 16:34:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:34:03 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: random Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com another suggestion for the Virus-wishlist : the LFO's have several waveforms to choose from (like triangle , S&H, etc). but wouldn't it be great if there was also a random waveform to choose from (i have to admit that this could be difficult to implement as there is no led anymore available...suggestions for this?) BTW, any further news on the ringmodulator? greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 16:58:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:39:56 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" >How can he possibly use all that stuff ???? !!!! If you look closely you will notice that 90% of that stuff doesn't even have a cable coming out of it or a power cord ...... that should answer your question ;-))) ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Aug 12 18:55:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Jon_Radhha" To: Subject: Virus Dumps & Cubase Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:49:28 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi Iīve a problem with my Virus Dumps in Cubase. The program makes a short halt when playing the SysEx, SingleBuff or Multi, .... it doesnīt matter. I can understand this, because there are plenty of informations in nearly no time-span to be sended on this SysEx Dump. Now it is nevertheless very annoying when the song halts every time I change an instrument via SysEx. does anybody know this problem? thx Margarete excuse my bad english :) X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 19:21:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:20:36 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: random Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 4:34 PM +0100 on 14.01.1999 steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com wrote: >difficult to implement as there is no led anymore available...suggestions for this?) The thing I would like first is a sine wave LFO to be accessable from the front panel. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 19:31:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:23:14 GMT Organization: The Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:34:03 +0200, steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com wrote: >another suggestion for the Virus-wishlist : the LFO's have several waveforms to choose from (like triangle , S&H, etc). but wouldn't it be great if there was also a random waveform to choose from (i have to admit that this could be difficult to implement as there is no led anymore available...suggestions for this?) There's also sine (selectable by MIDI CC only) and of course two random ones already - S&Hold and S&Glide. How random would you like it? Do you mean noise as an LFO source maybe? 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The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 20:02:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: random Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:59:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" >* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com > >another suggestion for the Virus-wishlist : the LFO's have several waveforms to choose from (like triangle , S&H, etc). but wouldn't it be great if there was also a random waveform to choose from (i have to admit that this could be difficult to implement as there is no led anymore available...suggestions for this?) > Is there a difference between S&H and random? If so, please explain. I've always assumed that random was just another name for sample and hold... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 14 20:16:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BURUFUNK@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:10:44 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BURUFUNK@aol.com In a message dated 1/14/99 12:41:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, vcs3@usa.net writes: << Look: www.synthfool.com/ke See it? How can he possibly use all that stuff ???? !!!! >> Now that's one hell of a fire hazzard! =) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 10:07:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:45:08 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access list Subject: fm->filter Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong hi! i've been playing with a virus this afternoon and I was very impressed. One question: is it possible to fm-modulate the filter (send the osc output to the filter control input)? What does the vocoder sound like? thanks jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 00:36:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:32:57 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! With this problem I always suggest to use the simple, not MS like but well programmed 'Jazz' for windows95 or linux. You can find it at http://www.jazz.com. Never try the mediaplayer. It sends only things which microsoft think to be important. Dimitri. At 18:36 13-1-99 -0800, you wrote: >* From Cyngus Cyngus > >last message got messed up i think... > >what program do i need to install the new os?.. i cant seem to get cubase to werk.. it keeps crashing.. is there anythign else??... i tried to use windows media player.. but it dont seem to werk either... the virus hangs when it reaches 13% ... the media player keeps sending but the virus stops.. its weird... if there is another program that i could get... (thats free) or maby a werking demo of cubase some whar.. > >thanx > >Eric > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 00:52:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:50:02 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: random Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda I think a random waveform is what an ex-cbm64 user says to a noise-waveform: Each time the amp of the wave is different at random. Those commodore 64 sounds were very cool... Dimitri. At 14:07 14-1-99 EST, you wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 14.01.99 16:40:53 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >>* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >> >>another suggestion for the Virus-wishlist : the LFO's have several waveforms to choose from (like triangle , S&H, etc). but wouldn't it be >great >>if there was also a random waveform to choose from > >What is a random waveform ? > >Christoph Kemper >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 01:19:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Scott Abel To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: random Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:13:19 +1300 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Scott Abel Wouldn't the effect be the same if you selected a S&H LFO and turned the rate up really fast? I always kind of thought the only difference between a noise waveform/oscillator and S&H LFO was a matter of speed.... but please correct me if I'm wrong. S -----Original Message----- From: Dimitri Sijperda [mailto:di-mi@dds.nl] Sent: Friday, 15 January 1999 12:50 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: random * From Dimitri Sijperda I think a random waveform is what an ex-cbm64 user says to a noise-waveform: Each time the amp of the wave is different at random. Those commodore 64 sounds were very cool... Dimitri. At 14:07 14-1-99 EST, you wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 14.01.99 16:40:53 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >>* From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >> >>another suggestion for the Virus-wishlist : the LFO's have several waveforms to choose from (like triangle , S&H, etc). but wouldn't it be >great >>if there was also a random waveform to choose from > >What is a random waveform ? > >Christoph Kemper >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 02:15:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: hmmm os prob Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:11:28 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton How about a mailgroup just for the loading of the Virus OS? >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dimitri Sijperda [mailto:di-mi@dds.nl] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 3:33 PM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: hmmm os prob >> >> >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>With this problem I always suggest to use the simple, not MS like but well >>programmed >>'Jazz' for windows95 or linux. You can find it at http://www.jazz.com. >>Never try the mediaplayer. It sends only things which microsoft think to be >>important. >> >>Dimitri. >> >>At 18:36 13-1-99 -0800, you wrote: >>>* From Cyngus Cyngus >>> >>>last message got messed up i think... >>> >>>what program do i need to install the new os?.. i cant seem to get cubase to werk.. it keeps crashing.. is there anythign else??... i tried to use windows media player.. but it dont seem to >>werk either... >>>the virus hangs when it reaches 13% ... the media player >>keeps sending >>>but the virus stops.. its weird... if there is another >>program that i >>>could get... (thats free) or maby a werking demo of cubase >>some whar.. >>> >>>thanx >>> >>>Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? >>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>>____________________________________________________________ >>_______________ >>>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service >>of TekLab, and >>>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ >>for this list is >>>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - >>please read it! >>> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 02:51:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pokeweed@pipeline.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:49:04 -0500 Subject: Re: New demo files posted Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pokeweed@pipeline.com >Both are in MP3 format, and all you windows users, please be careful with the file, these tend to break when you download them with Netscape's Navigator. > >As much as I hate to do it I must ask you to use the Microsoft equivalent instead..., unfortunately I can't give you an FTP alternative. There is a simple solution to fix scrambled mp3 files that you may want to post on your page (some of us won't have had REALLY bad experiences with explorer). A free little DOS program called "UNCOOK.EXE", which weighs in at a whopping 9K, will fix netscape scrambled mp3's in only a few seconds. A search with any engine should turn it up, or I can mail it to you if you'd rather. Alternatively, you could just grab it from the download section of my (unfinished and unupdated) page at http://www.umbc.edu/~bthomp1. DeDMaN - Pokeweed@pipeline.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 03:30:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Question about Sound Character Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:26:57 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Rick Reyes wrote... >Please, that's like saying only lame producers use EQ, Delay, etc. It's just an effect. Over use will kill it, subtle use is nice... I take your point. Unfortunately, the usual piece I read in magazines goes like this: 'So what does an enhancer DO? (We can't say Exciter because the trademark is owned by Aphex) Well, nobody is quite sure, but you need one. Most of todays hit songs go through an exciter to sharpen the top end and make the track nice and loud. And if you want radio airplay, so must you. Now, the ZDQ 7903 comes in a fetching pink case with no knobs and an on-off switch. This may not seem like much, but it's all you really need, because these things are magic....' I will go and listen to one and see what it really does to the sound. I have just been put off by the terrible hype surrounding these products. Mind you, I might just buy a Nord Laed instead :) >Where the Shaper is concerned, Osc Volume and Resonance (filter one) seem to provide the most dramatic tonal changes. I funk'n love the shaper. Very FMish. I can get it to sound sick... Hmm, I did not play around with saturation & resonance very much. I will go back and give this another go. Perhaps it's just my feeling about distortion, I have never made heavy use of the saturation parameter. I usually modulate OSC volume with a square wave to get gate effects - for me the distortion sound on the Virus just seems to lose definition instead of make it hard. But you have given me some fresh ideas. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 03:30:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Clicking...still Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:27:19 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Dear Access, I am still getting an annoying clicking noise on my outputs sometimes. It happens in multi or multi-single mode, when I turn delay effect send on - I get a rhythmic clicking like a 16th note pattern (always sounds the same irrelevant of delay settings). Making a patch change to something with zero delay seems to get rid of it. Any ideas? I am still on OS 2.0 at the moment. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 15:22:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Böhm Thomas-Lars To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: WANT FEATURE ! (was RE: Second File) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:30:58 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6hm_Thomas-Lars?= >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >7. The Second File will be placed in the Flash ROM, so it will not overwrite >the RAM-Sounds. But after loading and burning the Second File you will be asked if you want to copy the new Sounds and/or Multis to the RAM. This procedure will overwrite the existing Sounds in the RAM. > Hello Christoph, according to you the factory patches are stored in the Flash ROM. I would like to have the RAM free for my own sounds with having to overwrite the factory sounds and losing them. Maybe you could implement a single bank C + D addressing the sounds stored in the Flash ROM. Is it possible to update the virus to this feature ? Thanx in advance. Greetings, TL-Bee ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 16:31:15 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: [Fwd: access virus] Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:31:12 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay Weld wrote: >>k.mertens@vmm.be wrote: >> >>How can I put the arpegiator off?? >can someone reply to this guy on his private mail, ive got things Um... RTFM? This one is pretty damn basic. Seriously, I'm not gonna write this guy. I've got things too. Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 19:25:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: random Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:26:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >I think a random waveform is what an ex-cbm64 user says to a noise-waveform: Each time the amp of the wave is different at random. Those >commodore 64 sounds were very cool... Oh they were fantastic! For all the cbm64 lovers, there are a lot of sid-tunes on the net plus sid-players... Truely classic tunes were made on it... With only 3 voices and still making fantastic music...thats how I like to see it :-) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 19:30:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Clicking...still Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:31:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Anig Browl" >I am still getting an annoying clicking noise on my outputs sometimes. It happens in multi or multi-single mode, when I turn delay effect send on - I >get a rhythmic clicking like a 16th note pattern (always sounds the same irrelevant of delay settings). Making a patch change to something with zero >delay seems to get rid of it. Any ideas? I am still on OS 2.0 at the moment. Did you check all the volumes? In single AND multi? Somehow if both are a bit high then clicking/clipping can occure. I had this too and now I don't seem to have it anymore... Once I made a some sounds, but they were heavily distorted...turned out that I had the osc-volumes way too high...very very unpleasant sound! Later! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 20:01:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: redo of tsi virus site??? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:58:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" thought i would mention that i noticed that tsi redid the virus site a bit. there are now two full pictures of the virus on there. it's not a big deal i suppose but i thought i would mention it since i was complaining about the lack of a full size shot a few weeks ago. damn, the virus is a beautiful machine :) - granted, i've not got to see one yet other than online, but as soon as this snow clears up, i'm off to chicago to find one! anyway... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 20:08:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: virus inputs as a "slicer" Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:05:46 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" i've got a question about the inputs on the virus. first, do they only allow sound to come through when they are triggered by a midi note or can they be set to allow sound through all the time? second, it would seem to me that one could use it as a "slicer" (as roland calls it) effect. for those not familiar with that term, it is the same as (for example) using a gate to chop up a pad to get those really trancy pads or vocals. anyway, couldn't one use the arp of the virus to trigger 1/16th notes, etc. to chop up the input signal or even, to chop up an internal virus sound(or might this lead to a feedback loop). i don't own a virus yet but it seems like this would work. any comments? i think it is quite funny how roland's brochures claim that their jp8080 is so ground-breaking when it seems to me that the virus does everything it does and much more. also, can't the virus run an arpregiator on all 16 parts of a multi at once? i was reading the emu audity2000 page and they claimed that the audity is the only synth to have 16 arps at once! i don't think this is true. anyway, thanks for any comments. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 21:07:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Cc: Subject: Re: random Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:57:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From "Marcel Engels" > >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>I think a random waveform is what an ex-cbm64 user says to a noise-waveform: Each time the amp of the wave is different at random. Those >>commodore 64 sounds were very cool... > >Oh they were fantastic! >For all the cbm64 lovers, there are a lot of sid-tunes on the net plus sid-players... >Truely classic tunes were made on it... With only 3 voices and still making fantastic music...thats how I like to see it :-) Buy a SidStation: http://www.sidstation.com/ And one for the music bar: does anyone have a SID-to-MIDI converter? I know that SID files are Commodore 64 executables, but since they can play them on Amiga's and PC's, you should be able to make a MIDI file out of it. Even just a MIDI file of Shades would be great. - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 22:10:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:40:44 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: RE: random Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 07:26 PM 1/15/99 +0100, you wrote: >* From "Marcel Engels" >Oh they were fantastic! >For all the cbm64 lovers, there are a lot of sid-tunes on the net plus sid-players... >Truely classic tunes were made on it... With only 3 voices and still making fantastic music...thats how I like to see it :-) And of course, there's the sidstation: http://www.sidstation.com/ j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 15 22:04:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: random Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:05:48 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Peter Korsten" > >Buy a SidStation: http://www.sidstation.com/ Well, I'm on their mailing-list :-) But I'm not sure if I need one though... Lots of sounds can be recreated with the Virus, not all though...but then again the sid-chip is a whole different story. >And one for the music bar: does anyone have a SID-to-MIDI converter? SHould be somewhere on the net...I've seen it. >Even just a MIDI file of Shades would be great. Aha...Chris Huelsbeck :-) I've downloaded all sid-tunes (at work :-)) and pressed a CDR of it... I listen to it a lot...maybe it's great old memories, but I still like them. Martin Galway is my hero, I love almost everything from him :-))) It was him that made me do my first synth-tunes on the c64 (I didn't had any synths back then)...which ultimately led to buying the Virus... I'll stop now, because it's probably food for another mailing-list... Later! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 01:06:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:04:20 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: virus inputs as a "slicer" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:05 PM +0100 on 15.01.1999 lauger wrote: >i've got a question about the inputs on the virus. first, do they only allow sound to come through >when they are triggered by a midi note or can they be set to allow sound through all the time? Both. There are two modes, one is called static (always on) and one requires a midi note, but lets you apply the envelopes to the external sounds. Unfortunately it's not an envelope follower, though. > >second, it would seem to me that one could use it as a "slicer" (as roland calls it) effect. for those >not familiar with that term, it is the same as (for example) using a gate to chop up a pad to get >those really trancy pads or vocals. anyway, couldn't one use the arp of the virus to trigger 1/16th notes, >etc. to chop up the input signal or even, to chop up an internal virus sound(or might this lead to a feedback loop). Just set the Virus to Dynamic mode and use notes to trigger the envelopes. No big deal on the Virus really...;)) > >also, can't the virus run an arpregiator on all 16 parts of a multi at once? i was reading the emu audity2000 >page and they claimed that the audity is the only synth to have 16 arps at once! i don't think this is true. Well, actually the Virus has only 12 voices, so they have to be split up between the 16 parts... so it just might be true. But maybe the number of arpeggiators isn't the only thing that makes a synth great. Have you tried to tweak a patch on any EMU synth yet...!?..;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 04:48:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: redo of tsi virus site??? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:45:30 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" >thought i would mention that it was your suggestion to have a full picture on >the virus site. And what a dandy suggestion it was ! I believe those are the only 2 full pictures of the Virus on the net , which is great for me since no one in my area carries them and I was dying to see what they looked like in a full picture ....and beautiful it is !!! ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 06:06:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:03:45 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com <> <> <> I see people talking about my setup behind my back. I photographed that setup just after I moved and got it all setup in one place. That, plus I don't have enough power outlets or audio cables to hook everything up at one time, explains why it is not all connected. It also reduces the risk of fire. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 06:37:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: virus inputs as a "slicer" Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:31:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" >> >>also, can't the virus run an arpregiator on all 16 parts of a multi at once? >>i was reading the emu audity2000 >>page and they claimed that the audity is the only synth to have 16 arps at once! i don't think this is true. > > >Well, actually the Virus has only 12 voices, so they have to be split up between the 16 parts... so it just might be true. But maybe the number of arpeggiators isn't the only thing that makes a synth great. Have you tried to tweak a patch on any EMU synth yet...!?..;) > well there is no way that i would ever buy the audity instead of the virus - the virus is way better. i just thought it was funny that emu was acting as though their audity2000 synth was something special when really it isn't! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 06:44:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:36:03 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I see people talking about my setup behind my back. I photographed that setup just after I moved and got it all setup in one place. That, plus I don't have enough power outlets or audio cables to hook everything up at one time, explains why it is not all connected. It also reduces the risk of fire. Well, you have one heck of a collection of synths. I'd personally like to hear some of your stuff - I'm sure you've got some recordings out that put some of the more interesting synths to good use... Got details on how we can hear your work? For your info, I refer to that series of shots as synthporn amongst all my friends... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 06:43:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: virus jpgs Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:37:29 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" > >And what a dandy suggestion it was ! I believe those are the only 2 full pictures of the Virus on the net , which is great for me since no one in my area carries them and I was dying to see what they looked like in a full picture ....and beautiful it is !!! > well speaking of virus images, i've got a huge one that i can send to anyone interested. it's well over a meg(i'd zip it up to send i suppose). i don't know where i got it from(i got it about a year ago or so) but it is very big. i think it is the same one as on the tsi site but in much greater resolution. you can clearly read every knob, label, etc. i also have a virus wallpaper that i made for 1024x768 screens. rather childish i suppose, but there really isn't a more beautiful synth than virus is there(at least not in the past few years)! :) it's of the shadowy lit up virus from the magazine ads. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 07:04:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:01:52 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" >I see people talking about my setup behind my back. I photographed that setup >just after I moved and got it all setup in one place. That, plus I don't have >enough power outlets or audio cables to hook everything up at one time, explains why it is not all connected. It also reduces the risk of fire. How can it possibly be behind your back when you are a member of the list that it was posted to ? Lighten up, I wish I had all that shit but I would be the first one to admit that I couldn't possibly use it all ...or understand it all 100% ...;-))) After I posted the original reply I brought my wife in my studio to show her the pic and she was the one who noticed the staircase banister in the background ...that was the first clue that it was set up in the living room and , unless you live alone , I don't think any roomate/parent/spouse would give up the living room for our strange addictions ;-)) That was when I realized that it was set up there for the photo shoot only .... ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 10:22:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:14:10 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [RamiroS@aol.com] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Dear Access, > >We are interested in your Virus Synthesizer but we are unaware of any retailers who sell them in the US. We also need to know what type of controller you recommend for the Virus, if it supports it. You can e-mail Jon and Ramiro at: >RamiroS@aol.com > >Thank you so much for help and cooperation. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 12:24:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:23:27 +0100 To: , access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: virus jpgs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:37 AM +0100 on 16.01.1999 lauger wrote: >* From "lauger" > >well speaking of virus images, i've got a huge one that i can send to anyone interested. it's >well over a meg(i'd zip it up to send i suppose). i don't know where i got it from(i got it about a year ago or so) but it is very big. i think it is the same one as on the tsi site but in much greater resolution. you can clearly read every knob, label, etc. Sure, why don't you send it to me, so I can put it up for downoads on my website? I might be able to reduce the filesize while keeping everything readable. That way you don't have to email it to everyone on the list who wants it. > >i also have a virus wallpaper that i made for 1024x768 screens. rather childish i suppose, but there really isn't a more beautiful synth than virus is there(at least not in the past few years)! :) it's of the shadowy lit up virus from the magazine ads. And that too, for the crazy ones among us...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 15:13:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:35:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hmm... I had the same problem...I've tried differents sequencer, different midi interface, and even dowload jazz and other programs from the net. Since vers 2.00, it seems that it's a pain in the ass to update for PC users. So I went to a friend whith a Mac, and it's working now ! It seems like access programed the midifile on a Mac and however there is some informations that are not compatible, because THIS IS NOT A CLOCK PROBLEM from PC. Good Luck D I M I T R I II >* From Mike478640@aol.com > >hello. >i used cubase vst 3.6 on a pc to upgrade to 2.0x, try using it at the slowest tempo you can, i think i started upgrading it at tempo 60, then when it crashed i would decrease the tempo by 5, 55...50...45..., i dont remember wich one worked for me. > >let me know if it works for you so next time i upgrade, i'll know at what tempo to do the run the seq. > >see ya. > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 13:58:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:57:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus jpgs X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi to all the picture freaks ! Look also at the TSI ftp server. There are some fullsize pictures of the virus. The address is ftp://ftp.tsi.de/pub/tsi/access/photos/ Enjoy Jens Wegerhoff lauger schrieb: > >* From "lauger" > >> >>And what a dandy suggestion it was ! I believe those are the only 2 full pictures of the Virus on the net , which is great for me since no one in my area carries them and I was dying to see what they looked like in a full picture ....and beautiful it is !!! >> > >well speaking of virus images, i've got a huge one that i can send to anyone interested. it's >well over a meg(i'd zip it up to send i suppose). i don't know where i got it from(i got it about a year ago or so) but it is very big. i think it is the same one as on the tsi site but in much greater resolution. you can clearly read every knob, label, etc. > >i also have a virus wallpaper that i made for 1024x768 screens. rather childish i suppose, but there really isn't a more beautiful synth than virus is there(at least not in the past few years)! :) it's of the shadowy lit up virus from the magazine ads. > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 15:01:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:00:46 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus jpgs X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Jens Wegerhoff schrieb: > >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > >Hi to all the picture freaks ! > >Look also at the TSI ftp server. There are some fullsize pictures of the virus. > >The address is ftp://ftp.tsi.de/pub/tsi/access/photos/ > >Enjoy > >Jens Wegerhoff > Hi again ! There is a little mistake in the address Itīs ftp://ftp.tsi-gmbh.de/pub/tsi/access/photos Sorry for that Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 17:52:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: pokeweed@pipeline.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:46:13 -0500 Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From pokeweed@pipeline.com After trying Cakewalk Proaudio, media player, and one of those cheap home stereo apps, I finally had good luck using the version of Quartz Audio Master that came with my soundcard. I know that there is a save-disabled demo on their websight. I don't have that address at hand, but if anyone is interested.. I'll dig it up. DeDMaN- pokeweed@pipeline.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 19:14:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:01:36 +0100 From: stef Organization: netwhere To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus jpgs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef does anyone have a picture of an opened virus? usually i open every piece of equipment, even before i switch it on the first time. But i remember the virus has one of these annoying 'warranty void if seal is broken' stickers. I would deal the picture for pictures of opened a3k, nordrack, matrix1000, microwave, prophecy, juno106, sh101(+schematics), TX81Z, k2000r, dp/4, ms20,... stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 22:05:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:57:39 +0100 From: stef Organization: netwhere To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus jpgs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From stef >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >not to be picky, but these are the types of questions which eventully make people sick of mailing lists, and the dreaded how does the virus sound compared to the new farfisa organ. cmon people! : ) weld I'm sorry, but I AM VERY interested what's inside the virus. I think talking about virus electronics is not off topic. If you stay using your synths as black boxes, you'll probably never understand how they work and what firmware upgrades can do. For example, i opened my Nord, now i know what DSP is inside, and how much DSP power it has. I opened the A3000 sampler and i could increase the level of its outputs. I opened my microwave, now i know what filters it uses, and how to tap the CVs. I opened the SH101, fixed it and added some CV inputs, .......... I think this list is not only for talking about sounds or virus troubleshooting. stef(an). ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 16 21:51:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BURUFUNK@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:40:49 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BURUFUNK@aol.com In a message dated 1/15/99 9:08:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, Elhardt@aol.com writes: << I see people talking about my setup behind my back. I photographed that setup just after I moved and got it all setup in one place. That, plus I don't have enough power outlets or audio cables to hook everything up at one time, explains why it is not all connected. It also reduces the risk of fire. >> Hey man, your setup looks great. Lucky you!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 01:03:57 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:00:03 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition #1 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com (Paul D'Amato) wrote: << How can it possibly be behind your back when you are a member of the list that it was posted to ? >> I was just joking. I figured that nobody on this list knew I was also on this list too. <> That's its permanent place. I live alone and own my house so I can decorate it however I like. The choice was either funiture or synthesizers. I picked the latter. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 01:15:51 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elhardt@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:12:31 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition # 2 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elhardt@aol.com << Well, you have one heck of a collection of synths. I'd personally like to hear some of your stuff - I'm sure you've got some recordings out that put some of the more interesting synths to good use... Got details on how we can hear your work? >> Since synthesizers have been an expensive hobby of mine for almost 20 years now, I don't have any professional work out. But I was thinking of uploading to Canine's site something I wrote that is in temporary form using the Virus in 16 voice multi-timbral mode. It is somewhat in the style of Baroque composer Scarlatti. That is the only piece I have in digital form on the computer right now. Although I do have some MP3s of some acoustic instuments that I synthesized on the Nord Modular at: http://www.midiwall.com/nordmodular/nord-snd.htm They are very realistic simulations of violins/cellos/plucked string sounds, with extreme attention to detail. I am just improvising the music on the fly in those, so don't pay too much attention to that part of it. Maybe I should get that Virus piece I did posted soon. -Elhardt ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 01:21:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:16:54 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: virus jpgs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 8:57 PM +0100 on 16.01.1999 stef wrote: >If you stay using your synths as black boxes, you'll probably never understand how they work and what firmware upgrades can do. For example, i opened my Nord, now i know what DSP is inside, and how much DSP power it has. I opened the A3000 sampler and i could increase the level of its outputs. I opened my microwave, now i know what filters it uses, and how to tap the CVs. I opened the SH101, fixed it and added some CV inputs, .......... sheesh, what a guy-thing to do... ;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 02:56:58 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:52:02 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >In einer eMail vom 16.01.99 15:19:32 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >>I had the same problem...I've tried differents sequencer, different midi interface, and even dowload jazz and other programs from the net. Since vers >>2.00, it seems that it's a pain in the ass to update for PC users. >>So I went to a friend whith a Mac, and it's working now ! > >There is no clock problem, when the clock is switched off. But obviously some >midi interfaces have problems to merge SysEx data and clock messages. We checked that already. (This problem appeared on a Mac.) Lemme guess: was the PC MIDI interface that of a Soundblaster? Just ask Peter Govaers, who's in the process of writing Blue Zone for the Yamaha A3000 sampler. He's not to trilled about the Soundblaster, especially for sysex. And now, I'm putting it mildly. In his words: it doesn't work. It works for me, though, with my SB 16 PnP and my AN1x. - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 03:15:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:55:41 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:24:23 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] > >>From jay@teklab.com Sat Jan 16 14:24:19 1999 >Received: from mgw02.wxs.nl (mgw02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.49]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA19766 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:24:18 -0800 From: djdjo000@wxs.nl >Received: from po02.wxs.nl (po02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.41]) by mgw02.wxs.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA13534 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:14:17 +0100 Received: from webmail ([195.121.6.34]) by po02.wxs.nl >(Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with SMTP id AAA5CC6 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:14:17 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: More virus questions >X-Mailer: Netscape Messenger Express 3.5 [Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98) via NetCache version NetApp Release 3.2.1R1: Fri Aug 7 11:52:45 PDT 1998] >Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:14:17 +0100 >Message-ID: <77267F24589.AAA5CC6@po02.wxs.nl> > >Hi all > >I really hope i'm not being too much of a nuisance, but before handing out the big money there are things i'd like to know and most of the time mailinglist prove to be the best way of getting info. > >* >I love the possibility to route sounds internally to other sounds. How does this work exactly? >Let say we've got a strings -chord. the sound is routed to another voice to filter some more. If i'd press three keys, will the whole chord be processed at once, or will all 3 voices get their own further processing, thus needing a total of 6 voices? The latter option would be great, although it sucks up recources. > >* >I checked some of the pictures again and I saw the indication of "FILTER 1+2" at LFO1 and "FILTER1" and "FILTER2" seperately at LFO2 (or vice versa). When the indication says something like filter 1+2, can you still change the amount on that LFO for filter 1 and 2 seperately, or will one setting work on both filters? That'd be a shame i feel > >* >I read in an old magazine there'd be a ring modulator inside the virus. I didn't read anymore about it since. > >* how does that damn vocoder sound? :) > >Thanks for your time, > > >Jasper > >(if all this proves positive I'll hand out the money next week :) > > > j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 03:15:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:56:39 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition #1 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >That's its permanent place. I live alone and own my house so I can decorate it however I like. The choice was either funiture or synthesizers. I picked the latter. Excellent! Of course, I've heard that that Multi Moog makes a nice sofa if you gouge out the insides and pour in lush venour or velvet. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 05:35:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:32:59 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE:virus ??? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 1/16/99 8:35:37 PM, weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net writes: >p.s. i sold my jup 8 to buy the virus and havnt looked back since Same here.....with the Virus I no longer miss synths like the Roland MKS 70 or 80, Oberheim Matrix 6, M1000, etc. I can even live without a Minimoog! I certainly don't miss the noise or the less than adequate MIDI implenetations. Anyone notice the price of these vintage analogs have been dropping lately? Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 12:18:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: hmmm os prob Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:19:10 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From "Peter Korsten" > >Lemme guess: was the PC MIDI interface that of a Soundblaster? Just ask Peter Govaers, who's in the process of writing Blue Zone for the Yamaha A3000 sampler. He's not to trilled about the Soundblaster, especially for sysex. And now, I'm putting it mildly. > >In his words: it doesn't work. It works for me too with the AWE32...never had any problems to update the OS. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl upd. 17 jan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 13:03:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:01:18 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen I loaded 2.01 with my PC using jazz sequencer and there were no problems. So, it can't be a Mac/PC-related problem. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 13:52:47 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:50:36 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from Cc: djdjo000@wxs.nl Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 2:55 AM +0100 on 17.01.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >>I love the possibility to route sounds internally to other sounds. How does this work exactly? >>Let say we've got a strings -chord. the sound is routed to another voice to filter some more. If i'd press three keys, will the whole chord be processed at once, or will all 3 voices get their own further processing, thus needing a total of 6 voices? The latter option would be great, although it sucks up recources. Hm, I am not sure, I believe it takes up six voices then. >> >>* >>I checked some of the pictures again and I saw the indication of "FILTER 1+2" at LFO1 and "FILTER1" and "FILTER2" seperately at LFO2 (or vice versa). When the indication says something like filter 1+2, can you still change the amount on that LFO for filter 1 and 2 seperately, or will one setting work on both filters? That'd be a shame i feel The filter cutoffs are controlled by LFO 2. There are three settings: filter 1, filter 2 or both filters with the same amount. This is very handy for live stuff. Resonance (of both filters, only together) is modulated by LFO 1, so is the filter gain (which can only be set once before the filters anyway) >> >>* >>I read in an old magazine there'd be a ring modulator inside the virus. I didn't read anymore about it since. >From all the smileys we get from access when people ask about it, it seems one day there will be a ring modulator. But when? as always with things like this: don't base your shopping decision on a feature that has not been double extra confirmed by the maker of a product! >> >>* how does that damn vocoder sound? :) First of all it sounds great. Second of all it doesn't sound much like you would expect a vocoder to sound. It's different, but very useful in many ways. The trick to make voices more legible is to mix the original signal back with the vocoder signal (using the Filter Balance control). I use it mostly for drums and other more experimental sounds, rather than voices. But I'm planning to use it for one of the next tracks. >> >>Thanks for your time, >> >> >>Jasper >> >>(if all this proves positive I'll hand out the money next week ;-) I hope this did... go for it...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 17 16:51:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: Subject: Re: Spot the Virus Competition #1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:42:23 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" That's its permanent place. I live alone and own my house so I can decorate it however I like. The choice was either funiture or synthesizers. I picked the latter. You are a lucky man ;-)) My wife would shoot me ..... ______________________________________________________ Paul D'Amato... sevin@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~sevin/sevin.html ______________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 16:10:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Dimitri TIKOVOI" To: Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:54:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Dimitri TIKOVOI" >Did somebody ever try to cut the OS-file in two or more pieces, like it was explained a couple weeks ago, to solve these problems? Yes, I did, and I had no luck. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 00:41:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Clicking...still Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:37:52 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Marcel Engels wrote.. >Did you check all the volumes? In single AND multi? It turns out this is a hardware problem actually. But thanks for your suggestion :-) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 01:18:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:56:20 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:42:25 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] > >>From jay@teklab.com Sun Jan 17 04:42:23 1999 >Received: from mgw02.wxs.nl (mgw02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.49]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA26669 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:42:22 -0800 From: djdjo000@wxs.nl >Received: from po02.wxs.nl (po02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.41]) by mgw02.wxs.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA22844 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:34:53 +0100 Received: from webmail ([195.121.6.34]) by po02.wxs.nl >(Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with SMTP id AAA7083 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:34:52 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: RE:virus ???sfrom [djdjo000@wxs.nl] X-Mailer: Netscape Messenger Express 3.5 [Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98) via NetCache version NetApp Release 3.2.1R1: Fri Aug 7 11:52:45 PDT 1998] >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:34:52 +0100 >Message-ID: <77267F80D7C.AAA7083@po02.wxs.nl> > >First of all, sorry for my bounced messies. I'm on the list but i'm writing from a different user name for some reason when i m using webmail. > >>Virus Vocoder--Good >>Ring Mod-- still Coming- patients >>LFO to filter 1 and 2 is independant > >Are you absolutely sure of this? >I checked the manual again and it says that if you set the amount for "Filter 1+2" (or "shape 1+2" in LFO2 for example), it sets the amount for BOTH and you can't control amounts seperately. This would be very disturbing as both will be controlled at all times! > >It all this true? > >Thanks again! >Jasper de jong j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 01:18:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:57:25 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 07:55:06 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] > >>From jay@teklab.com Sun Jan 17 07:55:03 1999 >Received: from mgw02.wxs.nl (mgw02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.49]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA28354 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 07:55:02 -0800 From: djdjo000@wxs.nl >Received: from po02.wxs.nl (po02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.41]) by mgw02.wxs.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA26383 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:47:47 +0100 Received: from webmail ([195.121.6.34]) by po02.wxs.nl >(Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with SMTP id AAAC82 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:47:46 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from X-Mailer: Netscape Messenger Express 3.5 [Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98) via NetCache version NetApp Release 3.2.1R1: Fri Aug 7 11:52:45 PDT 1998] >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:47:46 +0100 >Message-ID: <77267F83128A.AAAC82@po02.wxs.nl> > >Hi! > >thanks for all your help > >>>>I checked some of the pictures again and I saw the indication >of >>>>"FILTER 1+2" at LFO1 and "FILTER1" and "FILTER2" seperately >at >>>>LFO2 (or vice versa). When the indication says something >like >>>>filter 1+2, can you still change the amount on that LFO for filter 1 and 2 seperately, or will one setting work on both filters? That'd be a shame i feel > >>The filter cutoffs are controlled by LFO 2. There are three >settings: >>filter 1, filter 2 or both filters with the same amount. This >is very >>handy for live stuff. >>Resonance (of both filters, only together) is modulated by LFO >1, so is the >>filter gain (which can only be set once before the filters >anyway) > >Why on earth did they make the lfo1 to modulate the res of both filters only together? This sure takes away a lot of possibilities. > >>>>(if all this proves positive I'll hand out the money next >week > >>;-) I hope this did... go for it...;) > >Thanks. I'm not convinced yet. The machine sure sounds good, but there are quite a few strange things about it. > >bye >jasper j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 01:38:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:40:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:57 AM +0100 on 18.01.1999 Jay Vaughan wrote: >>Why on earth did they make the lfo1 to modulate the res of both filters only together? This sure takes away a lot of possibilities. probably because they had to compromise somewhere. with only 5 LEDs what can you do? If you need all the modulation that a heart could want, you should get the Nord Modular instead. It may set you back a bit more, but there is no limit to what it can do. (speaking synthwise, I mean) >> >>>>>(if all this proves positive I'll hand out the money next >>week >> >>>;-) I hope this did... go for it...;) >> >>Thanks. I'm not convinced yet. The machine sure sounds good, but there are quite a few strange things about it. WQell, I wouldn't call it strange. Compare it to other synths of its pricerange and you will see that each one has benefits and drawbacks the others don't have. The sounds that are easy to create on a synth (because of things like both resonance settings being modulated at once) make up a synth's character. And that's where it pretty much comes down to taste and personal preference. Thus, you will have to decide...;) We can only asnwer your questions. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 09:22:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:16:36 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >* From Buddha >As I said, I'm very happy with the machine as it is, it's just that a mod matrix would be real the turbo booster......... You spoke my mind. A mod-matrix would be a dream-come-true! In fact, I would willingly sacrifice a voice for a mod-matrix, a ring-modulator and . . . . . . a third envelope generator. LoLife ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 09:41:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:39:56 +0100 From: canine To: Buddha X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00001976 Subject: RE: hmmm os prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From canine >===== Original Message From Buddha ===== * From Buddha > >Also Canine, how do I upload some music featuring the Virus to your website? Please give me basic instructions as I am new to this website malarky. Thanks > >Bilbo Bagginz Hey Bilbo, Sorry, there is no way for you to actually upload anything to my site, you will have to send it to me (in email or snail, on CD) and I will put it up there. If the files are really big (like 5megs, which a full length song can easily have) I would prefer if you send me the files on a CD, otherwise I will feel a bit like there is a big blob of hair clogging up my email...;) It's not so bad, since I do have ISDN, but tell me how big it is. Often people have experienced problems sending large emails, but I don't think that had anything to do with my account. so, just let me know and if you want to send it via regular mail, here is my address (If you would like to include other music of yourself for me to enjoy, I'd be very pleased too...;): Kai Niggemann Johanniterstrasse 17 48145 Muenster Germany thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 02:46:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:06:57 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha I have updatedthe o.s regularly since 1.55 ( at 120 bpm) using a P.C.with absolutely no problems whatsoever, using cubase 3.1 with aTurtle beach Tahiti soundcard/midi interface. I don't think that the problem is the computer, it could well be the interface if it isn't the known problem sequencer software. Also Canine, how do I upload some music featuring the Virus to your website? Please give me basic instructions as I am new to this website malarky. Thanks Bilbo Bagginz >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > > >>I had the same problem...I've tried differents sequencer, different midi interface, and even dowload jazz and other programs from the net. Since vers 2.00, it seems that it's a pain in the ass to update for PC users. >>So I went to a friend whith a Mac, and it's working now ! > >>It seems like access programed the midifile on a Mac and however there is some informations that are not compatible, because THIS IS NOT A CLOCK PROBLEM from PC. >>Good Luck ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 02:46:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:43:47 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha Dear Access, The Virus is a blindingly good synth. I haven't stopped creating music with it since I bought it 9 months ago. I can take or leave a ring modulator, or even the vocoder but I can't take or leave a compare function or Modulation matrix. You know as well as I do that this is the ( the mod matrix) would make this machine sooo much more powerful than it already is. What is the story with this? Is it too much of a problem too tackle? ( I imagine that it would take a whole re-write of the o.s., which I'm sure would be a nightmare.) Please let me know so's I can shut the **** up and leave you in peace :-) As I said, I'm very happy with the machine as it is, it's just that a mod matrix would be real the turbo booster......... Thanx again, Bilbo Bagginz ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 10:12:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:10:12 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: MIDIcards & Dump problems (Re: hmmm os prob) WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: >I think, generally the update problem is possibly not a matter of the >sequencer, but of the midi interface, that is used. That's what I think too! I use a SB16ASP (Yes, the first 16 bit version! I paid 300 Euro for it), and a SB-PRO compatible MIDI interface. I assume that the dumps the virus makes are the same when you make them twice, and that my expensive enough MIDI cable is good. But when I make 2 dumps in syx format (MDF.EXE, an old DOS programme), theyre always different! I've made a batch file that accepts a MIDI dump twice, and then compares them. If theyre the same the programm exists, otherwise it restarts. Well, I can press that store button as much as I want, but they're never the same lately! Guess It's time for a new soundcard. Say, does anybody know if the SB-LIVE is controlable by a Peavey 1600? I'd like to use it as a mixing console with Cubase VST. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 10:26:20 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:23:56 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: new MP3 song available WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! I'd like to invite you all to listen to my new song, made with the Virus. Only one funkbass sample is un-virus. One small problem though, the virus hanged during the recording, I coulnd't change a knob, though the sounds and notes continued playing. I haven't cut that out yet... I had to switch it aff-and-on. Hope this won't happen during a gig... The top-day of visits was on august 17th. Will you all help me to make a new highscore and all go to http://145.99.128.7/dimi ? And please mail me what you think of it! The song is called Cybercushion. (Couldn't think of anything better...) Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 16:47:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:49:19 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo000@wxs.nl] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >>>Why on earth did they make the lfo1 to modulate the res of both filters only together? This sure takes away a lot of possibilities. >probably because they had to compromise somewhere. with only 5 LEDs what can you do? If you need all the modulation that a heart could want, you should get the Nord Modular instead. It may set you back a bit more, but there is no limit to what it can do. (speaking synthwise, I mean) That's true. But, a modular leaves you with less voices and you'll need to have a computer on making noise most of the time. I think endless possibilities will distract me from making music. >>>Thanks. I'm not convinced yet. The machine sure sounds good, but there are quite a few strange things about it. >WQell, I wouldn't call it strange. Compare it to other synths of its pricerange and you will see that each one has benefits and drawbacks the others don't have. The sounds that are easy to create on a synth (because of things like both resonance settings being modulated at once) make up a synth's character. Yes, that's absolutely true. Limits makes one being creative. I don't like too many limits though...:) Put something like this far away in the menu's, I don't care. >And that's where it pretty much comes down to taste and personal preference. Thus, you will have to decide...;) We can only asnwer your questions. Thanks, you're making my life a lot easier...:) Real thanks for answering! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 16:48:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:49:22 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo0. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong >>>I checked the manual again and it says that if you set the amount for "Filter 1+2" (or "shape 1+2" in LFO2 for example), it sets the amount for BOTH and you can't control amounts seperately. This would be very disturbing as both will be controlled at all times! >You should doublecheck the manual. >The filter frequencies can be modulated separately! The destinations that are modulated together are PulseWidth 1+2, Resonance 1+2, and Shape 1+2. These are destinations that are usually modulated together or commonly not used that often. While this may be true, it still is a shame IMHO. Imagine the shape (or resonance) of osc 1 being modulated in another direction than the shape of osc 2. I think it could be very useful. The PW isn't such a problem, it's handled by lfo3. I'd be great if access could put some more menu pages in (and ofcourse a modulation matrix). For such things i don't mind flicking through menu's...:) Bye Jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 16:01:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:55:01 +0000 From: bROthERs tEsTaS To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From bROthERs tEsTaS UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE . ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 17:14:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Davidzzz@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:11:59 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Davidzzz@aol.com What is a mod matrix??? david << a mod-matrix, >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 17:18:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: Jasper's Request Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:18:48 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay Jasper wrote: >>And that's where it pretty much comes down to taste and personal preference. Thus, you will have to decide...;) We can only asnwer your questions. >Thanks, you're making my life a lot easier...:) Well, to throw my 2 cents into the ring: Like Weld, I sold a JP8 to get the Virus, and I have not regretted it at all. And for me, the Virus fits in the sonic space that the Jupiter vacated. Now, the Jupiter didn't have much complexity in the mod routings department. The Virus has quite a bit. Not enough for some, but more than enough for me. And it's the SOUND that sells it for me, really. I think that one crucial advantage the Virus has is the set of digital waveforms: They get you to clangorous timbres without FM.... The ability to do analog AND ppg-sounding digital on a synth with this much power to begin with.... Well, it's incredible. So Jasper - please don't worry too much about mod routings: The sound will take you away! Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 20:38:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: the future of the virus... Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:35:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" I've got a couple of ideas concerning the virus that I thought I would share. Keep in mind that I realize that most of this may seem a bit unrealistic, but I thought I'd through the ideas out there for discussion anyway... Imagine if the architecture of the virus was opened up so that anyone(with sufficient programming skill) could write a new o.s. for it. Basically the virus becomes something a ~$1200 computer that you buy which happens to include a kick-ass synth built in but if others are so inclined to write the software, one can update to perform other functions. It could also serve as a nice test platform for those interested in dsp programming. taken to a very far extreme, access might even be seen as more of a hardware manufaturer than a synth company, selling knob-boxes filled with dsp chips. A second(and more feasible) idea - what if access released "experimental" o.s.'s? These would have to be strictly "no support" releases which had no priority over the "real o.s." but still had neat functions. For example, I am a software developer and I very often have small fixes and features that are never released due to either bugs or business requirments. Still, for a small number of users, those releases would be very usefull. I am curious if the good people at Access have features that are cool but still to obscure of buggy to release to the general public. It would be interesting if they decided to go ahead and put those out for us to try, but with no guarntees or promises of course. or... I often see people saying that they would rather have a mod matrix more than a vocoder or this feature more than that feature, etc. (in my case a step sequencer!!!) but due to dsp power not all of this is possible. wouldn't it be cool if a user could choose which o.s. features to download, perhaps trading more features for less voices, etc. i know that all of this is pretty unlikely and must say that Access is already doing a very good job of supporting their users. still, i think that these are very fun ideas to theorize about. if anything, i think it would be very cool if someday years from now when the virus is no longer sold if access would then release all the internal information about the virus(under sort of a gnu gpl type licensee) so that adverntureous people could do "digital mods" to the virus! well enough for now i suppose! -jack p.s. one more thing which would make a cool virus mod. imagine a new o.s. which made the virus into a giant filter box. each knob would perform an unamed feature and one would have to just play with them all to find out what worked and didn't. i once made a small windows program to do this to wav files and got interesting results. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 20:46:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:48:31 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo0. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >>>You should doublecheck the manual. >>>The filter frequencies can be modulated separately! The destinations that are modulated together are PulseWidth 1+2, >Resonance >>>1+2, and Shape 1+2. These are destinations that are usually modulated >>together >>>or commonly not used that often. >>While this may be true, it still is a shame IMHO. Imagine the shape (or resonance) of osc 1 being modulated in another direction than the shape of osc 2. I think it could be very useful. The PW isn't such a problem, it's handled by lfo3. >What a shame :-) >I think if we hadn't provide the Shape destination at all, you wouldn't have missed it. Well, I'm not sure about it. But hey, it's not that I won't buy a machine without LFO->waveshape, I just think it's a feature that could've been very useful. >Do you miss a destination called 'Volume' ? No. :) I was looking more at the possibilities to create strange sounds. I don't mean to harm anyone! Are you associated with access in some way BTW? If so, consider all this constructive critisism...:) Bye Jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 18 20:47:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:50:18 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Jasper's Request Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong >Well, to throw my 2 cents into the ring: Like Weld, I sold a JP8 to get the Virus, and I have not regretted it at all. And for me, the Virus fits in the sonic space that the Jupiter vacated. Now, the Jupiter didn't have much complexity in the mod routings department. The Virus has quite a bit. Not enough for some, but more than enough for me. >And it's the SOUND that sells it for me, really. I think that one crucial advantage the Virus has is the set of digital waveforms: They get you to clangorous timbres without FM.... The ability to do analog AND ppg-sounding digital on a synth with this much power to begin with.... Well, it's incredible. >So Jasper - please don't worry too much about mod routings: The sound will take you away! Thanks. This puts me back on the ground...:) I'll just sell my MKS-50 and VX-600 and get me a virus. Bye jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 00:11:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: Mod matrix Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:18:12 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From Davidzzz@aol.com > >What is a mod matrix??? That's a modulation matrix. It means that you can assign what MIDI controller controls which parameter on your synth. A nice example is the Yamaha AN1x. With this instrument, you have sxiteen sets of controller/parameter pairs and two common pairs, the latter two for things like pan, main volume, etc. So, you could assign MIDI controller #42 to control Ring Modulation. A similar feature is the ability to assign what physical controller (velocity, aftertouch, ribbon controller X/Y, etc.) uses what MIDI controller. So Aftertouch could control MIDI controller #42 and hey presto, Aftertouch controls Ring Modulation. In other words, if you have an AN1x, you don't need a controller matrix in your Virus. Hey, you might not even need a Virus at all. After all, it has both a controller matrix and ring modulation -- the latter which I'm using right now to bring that extra sparkle in my piano patch. No flames! I was kidding! :-) - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 00:11:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: MIDIcards & Dump problems (Re: hmmm os prob) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:26:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" >* From di-mi@dds.nl > >CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: > >>I think, generally the update problem is possibly not a >matter of the >>sequencer, but of the midi interface, that is used. >That's what I think too! I use a SB16ASP (Yes, the first 16 bit version! I paid 300 Euro for it), and a SB-PRO compatible MIDI interface. I assume that the dumps the virus makes are the same when you make them twice, and that my expensive enough MIDI cable is good. But when I make 2 dumps in syx format (MDF.EXE, an old DOS programme), theyre always different! I've made a batch file that accepts a MIDI dump twice, and then compares them. If theyre the same the programm exists, otherwise it restarts. Well, I can press that store button as much as I want, but they're never the same lately! Guess It's time for a new soundcard. > >Say, does anybody know if the SB-LIVE is controlable by a Peavey 1600? I'd like to use it as a mixing console with Cubase VST. If you have a problem with your soundcard with MIDI SysEx, and if that soundcard just happens to be some kind of SoundBlaster, and if you're looking for a new one: don't buy another SoundBlaster. I can't speak from my own experience, because I've never had problems sending SysEx dumps to my AN1x. But I know from Peter Govaers, who writes Blue Zone for the Yamaha A3000, that *all* SoundBlasters, including the Live, have problems with MIDI SysEx. (I mentioned this a couple of days ago.) - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 00:11:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Peter Korsten" To: Subject: Re: the future of the virus... Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:53:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Peter Korsten" First of all, I'm in no way associated with Access. (Unfortunately.) >* From "lauger" > >I've got a couple of ideas concerning the virus that I thought I would share. >Keep in mind that I realize that most of this may seem a bit unrealistic, but >I thought I'd through the ideas out there for discussion anyway... > >Imagine if the architecture of the virus was opened up so that anyone(with sufficient programming skill) could write a new o.s. for it. Basically the virus becomes something a ~$1200 computer that you buy which happens to include a kick-ass synth built in but if others are so inclined to write the >software, one can update to perform other functions. It could also serve as a >nice test platform for those interested in dsp programming. taken to a very far extreme, access might even be seen as more of a hardware manufaturer >than a synth company, selling knob-boxes filled with dsp chips. But you already can write your own OS for the Virus. Just reverse engineer the MIDI file that contains the OS. If you open the Virus, you can look what microcontroller they're using -- and it's not the one labeled Motorola 56303 :-) -- and get the information online from the chip manufacturer. It's a lot of work and illegal in the States, but that's beside the issue. Access sells you an instrument, not a computer. That this instrument happens to be based on computer technology is not very relevant. If you were a carpenter, would you make modifications to your Steinway grand piano? It's the software that makes the Virus special. It's not too hard to build a computer with a small microcontroller and a DSP. Just get the evaluation kit from Motorola, Analog Devices, you name it. If Access would be selling the hardware and release the software SDK, some Asian firm would copy design, sell it for half the price and Access would be out of business before you can say "duh". >A second(and more feasible) idea - what if access released "experimental" o.s.'s? >These would have to be strictly "no support" releases which had no priority over the >"real o.s." but still had neat functions. > >For example, I am a software developer and I very often have small fixes and >features >that are never released due to either bugs or business requirments. Still, for a small >number of users, those releases would be very usefull. I am curious if the good people >at Access have features that are cool but still to obscure of buggy to release to the general >public. It would be interesting if they decided to go ahead and put those out for us to try, >but with no guarntees or promises of course. Hmm, would all people who bought their Virus not to make music but to get the latest beta software please raise their hands? >I often see people saying that they would rather have a mod matrix more than >a vocoder or >this feature more than that feature, etc. (in my case a step sequencer!!!) but due to dsp >power not all of this is possible. wouldn't it be cool if a user could choose which o.s. features to >download, perhaps trading more features for less voices, etc. The DSP is not the problem -- hence the vocoder. The microcontroller (which you would use for a modulation matrix), that's more of a problem. >i know that all of this is pretty unlikely and must say that Access is already doing a very good job >of supporting their users. still, i think that these are very fun ideas to theorize about. if anything, i >think it would be very cool if someday years from now when the virus is no longer sold if access would >then release all the internal information about the virus(under sort of a gnu gpl type licensee) so that >adverntureous people could do "digital mods" to the virus! Well, I've been thinking of a box with a big colour display (like the one in a laptop), a bunch of controllers, and an abundance of memory and DSP power. An open software standard, so you can write your own filter for a virtual modular synth, would be very kewl. The problem is that most people know shit about programming. It's an art that only a few talented people really master. And I'm afraid that something like that would happen: an instable instrument. - Peter ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 00:25:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:24:52 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:11 PM +0100 on 18.01.1999 Davidzzz@aol.com wrote: >What is a mod matrix??? it's a way to connect midi controllers to any number of parameters inside a synth using a variable amount to control how much the parameter will be influenced by the controller. For example: Modulation (controller 1) could be set to control cutoff 1 by +127 and to cutoff 2 by - 20. at the same time it could control AmpEnvDecay by -15 and OSC2Detune by +5 at the same time you could set up another controller (say 16, a general controller often used for this kind of purpose) to control one or more other parameters. the way this works is usually this: you need a source ("modulation"), one or more destination(s) (cutoff 1, cutoff 2, AmpEnvDecay, OSC2Detune) and an amount for each of these destinations. This is a very flexible albeit somewhat complex way to make synth sounds very alive and modulatable in real time. that's what makes playing with a synth a lot of fun...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 00:28:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:26:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [djdjo0. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:51 PM +0100 on 18.01.1999 CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >* From CKe9644719@aol.com > >What a shame :-) >I think if we hadn't provide the Shape destination at all, you wouldn't have missed it. > >Do you miss a destination called 'Volume' ? yes I do ;) any particular reason why you ask this...;) ?? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 00:57:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:48:44 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the future of the virus... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 1/18/99 5:14:21 PM, pkorsten@xs4all.nl writes: >Access sells you an instrument, not a computer. That this instrument happensto be based on computer technology is not very relevant. If you were a carpenter, would you make modifications to your Steinway grand piano? >It's the software that makes the Virus special. It's not too hard to build a computer with a small microcontroller and a DSP. Just get the evaluation kit from Motorola, Analog Devices, you name it. If Access would be selling the hardware and release the software SDK, some Asian firm would copy design, sell it for half the price and Access would be out of business before you can say "duh".< The person who originally posted on this topic may want to consider the Symbolic Sound KYMA System, which is basically a wide open multi-DSP platform (the CAPYBARA) with an object-based programming language (KYMA). You would have pretty much a blank slate with the ability to do just about anything you want with it. A basic system starts at about $3300, not bad considering the cost of a Nord Modular system, and it is supported by Mac and PC platforms (as well as laptops). In the meantime, I love my Virus!!!!! Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 19:23:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Mod matrix Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:12:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >>* From Buddha >>As I said, I'm very happy with the machine as it is, it's just that a mod matrix would be real the turbo booster......... >You spoke my mind. A mod-matrix would be a dream-come-true! In fact, I would willingly sacrifice a voice for a mod-matrix, a ring-modulator and . . . . . . a third envelope generator. LoLife As long as the "Prion" has these features, I'm happy! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 03:34:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:20:25 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: the future of the virus... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >There is still a better solution: >Motorola offers an evaluation board, called DSP 56002 EVM or DSP 56303 EVM for less than 200 Dollar/Euro. >The board comes with on board AD and DA converters and an interface for PC (Mac?) to 'look' into the DSP. A complete documentation is also included, and a little operating system, which handles the converters etc. On this operating system you can easily program whatever you want. It's fun! And, to put my few cents worth into the discussion, Analog Devices make a kit called EZ-CSOUND, which is a full kit containing one of their new SHARC processors (exciting new audio DSP) on an interface board, cables and software for the PC that allows you to do hardware-accelerated CSound audio design. Very nice kit! http://www.analog.com/ (search for EZ-CSOUND) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 09:18:08 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:14:30 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: I'm puzzeled Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Hi Mara, > >please send the Virus back to us. Please use the address below. > > >Best Wishes, > >Wolfram Franke This is what they told me. If it is just a bad cable connection, why can't it be repaired here in Finland? --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 09:20:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:16:40 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Sorry! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen I'm really sorry. It was supposed to be a mail for Christoph only. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 09:21:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:18:01 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: MIDIcards & Dump problems (Re: hmmm os prob) WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hmmm. You have a point there. In fact, the reason I want to buy a SB-Live is that it is the cheapest S/P-DIF in/out card, and that they claim that the mixing of audiochannels does not take CPU usage... Of course, I could alway buy a stand-alone MIDI interface, and just ignore the SB-Midi. Though I wonder if it's not a timing problem, coming from the "OS" Win95. The programm I used is run in a DOS-box. Guess I'll have to test it without win95. Dimitri. "Peter Korsten" schreef: >If you have a problem with your soundcard with MIDI SysEx, and if that >soundcard just happens to be some kind of SoundBlaster, and if you're >looking for a new one: don't buy another SoundBlaster. > >I can't speak from my own experience, because I've never had problems >sending SysEx dumps to my AN1x. But I know from Peter Govaers, who writes >Blue Zone for the Yamaha A3000, that *all* SoundBlasters, including the >Live, have problems with MIDI SysEx. (I mentioned this a couple of days >ago.) > >- Peter > > >___________________________________________________________ ________________ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 11:29:41 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:26:18 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >it's a way to connect midi controllers to any number of parameters inside a synth >* From "Peter Korsten" >It means that you can assign what MIDI >controller controls which parameter on your synth Hmmmmmmmm . . . . . . . That's only part of the story; We are forgetting something important here. The very point of a modulation matrix for me is to GET AWAY from sending midi-controllers all over the place. (I'm old fashioned, you know, just like analog synths) For me, a four slot modulation matrix looks like this: Modulation Source 1 -> Amount 1 -> Destination 1 Modulation Source 2 -> Amount 2 -> Destination 2 Modulation Source 3 -> Amount 3 -> Destination 3 Modulation Source 4 -> Amount 4 -> Destination 4 The modulation sources are not only midi contollers, BUT ALSO the 3 LFOs, the 2 envelope generators, definitely noise and possibly other exotic things such as LFO * Envelope etc. etc. Have a look at the Waldorf Pulse. The modulation destinations are of course too many too mention, but I hope that the following will get your mouth watering: LFO frequency, envelope times, filter balance, oscillator wave, LFO symmetry, sub-osc volume, noise level, filter env amount, fm amount, (ring-mod level!!), mod amount 1 (2, 3, 4), and so on. There are hundreds more. I don't care if the menus for this sort of thing are hidden deep inside. Perhaps the Virus could have three user levels instead of just two: 1)Easy, 2)Expert, 3)Mad Professor ! Come on Howard, Paul. Back me up on this ! LoLife -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 12:40:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:42:38 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong >>What is a mod matrix??? >it's a way to connect midi controllers to any number of parameters inside a synth using a variable amount to control how much the parameter will be influenced by the controller. Hey, it's not only about midi-controllers. It's more about connecting different modules inside the machine. In a vx-600 or matrix you can for example just take env2 out and route it to whatever you want (cutoff, FM). Think about controlling the lfo1 speed with the lfo2. Maybe Access could add a few menu's with, say, three matrix-slots. It sure brings huge flexibility. Bye, jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 10:59:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: pego@exchange.telindus.be Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:58:23 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Peter Govaers Subject: Re: hmmm os prob Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Peter Govaers >>There is no clock problem, when the clock is switched off. But obviously somemidi interfaces have problems to merge SysEx data and clock messages. We checked that already. (This problem appeared on a Mac.) >Lemme guess: was the PC MIDI interface that of a Soundblaster? Just ask Peter Govaers, who's in the process of writing Blue Zone for the Yamaha A3000 sampler. He's not to trilled about the Soundblaster, especially for sysex. And now, I'm putting it mildly. >In his words: it doesn't work. >It works for me, though, with my SB 16 PnP and my AN1x. Surprise ! I'm here too. Just to make sure my words are not misinterpreted or anything : I have encountered serious problems with the SB MIDI interface when handling large blocks of INCOMING sysex frames. Me and the b.Zone (A3k editor) beta testers have done lots of testing and found problems ranging from plain PC crashes to loss of data. My conclusion simply is (what everybody probably already knows): The SB is not a professional MIDI interface. If you spend 1000s of dollars on synths and stuff, you might consider spending some on a decent MIDI interface to hook em all up. I use a Unitor8 now and am very pleased with it. P ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 12:16:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:13:02 GMT Organization: Soft Room Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From softroom@btinternet.com (Paul Nagle) On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:26:18, you wrote: >I don't care if the menus for this sort of thing are hidden deep inside. Perhaps the Virus could have three user levels instead of just two: 1)Easy, 2)Expert, 3)Mad Professor ! > >Come on Howard, Paul. Back me up on this ! OK, I vote for Mad Professor too! In fact, wouldn't it be cool to have a "User" level which only listed those parms you wanted? ;-) Paul ###---### web: www.softroom.freeserve.co.uk ###---### ###---### email: softroom@btinternet.com ###---### ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 12:42:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:36:53 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" ou are so right. I overlooked that this is not included in the term midi controllers... I have a Waldorf Microwave 1, this is the list of Modulation sources you can use there: LFO1 LFO2 Volume Envelope Filter Envelope Wave Envelope LFO envelope Keytracking Velocity Release Velocity Aftertouch Polypressure Pitchbend Mod Wheel Sustain pedal VolCtr (forget what this meant...) Pan center breath controller Control w-z (four assignable Midi controllers) max. min. Midi clock But I'm sure noone would want any of this in their *Virus*, right?...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 12:42:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:40:17 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:13 PM +0100 on 19.01.1999 Paul Nagle wrote: >OK, I vote for Mad Professor too! In fact, wouldn't it be cool to have a "User" level which only listed those parms you wanted? >;-) how about a test, sort of like an adventure game: Expert mode is only activated after you have shown to the Virus that you master the buttons on the front panel. There will be little tests built into the OS. In the middle of a gig the Virus will ask you: "Please create the settings for a pad using both envelopes". The Virus will look up and beep to signal errors if you mess up. If you find settings that make sense, the Virus will activate the next level, playing a little "victory" melody. Maybe I have been playing too much quake lately...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 15:17:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:46:53 +0100 From: ANA3STH To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix / uwaveII-XT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From ANA3STH Hello I think the modulation matrix of the Microwave II, ( or the the uwave I), would be a good source of inspiration. It allows a great flexibility and enlightens the basic sounds. "Le pompon", or should I say the Top on the top, it's the Modifiers of the uwaveII, that are logical/arithmetical operators between two sources and then you can assign the result to whatever destination you like thru the mod matrix. Complex. But Amazing. And finally a random function would be usefull. Very usefull. I love this thing because it discovers sonic field pretty unusual. A huge source of inspiration fot patch programming. My wish are: -first: Random Function -first: Modulation Matix -first: Ring Modulator -second: It's all and I'll be glad. _______________________________________________________________ S.ROLLAND anaesth@wanadoo.fr ANA3STh is an elektro.industrial.project from Paris ANA3STh HOMEPAGE: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/anaesth/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 14:12:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:04:48 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner >>OK, I vote for Mad Professor too! In fact, wouldn't it be cool to have a "User" level which only listed those parms you wanted? >>;-) > >how about a test, sort of like an adventure game: Expert mode is only activated after you have shown to the Virus that you master the buttons on the front panel. There will be little tests built into the OS. In the middle of a gig the Virus will ask you: "Please create the settings for a pad using both envelopes". The Virus will look up and beep to signal errors if you mess up. If you find settings that make sense, the Virus will activate the next level, playing a little "victory" melody. > >Maybe I have been playing too much quake lately...;) > > >think different! > >Canine > Sounds like a HIGH-SCORE function.... Every well done knob-turn makes 100 sound-points, and a super sound will get an extra-life! I'm sure, Dimitri will install a "HALL OF FAME" at once :) Jörg ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 14:12:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: 30minutes and Creamware Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:05:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Rob Papen" -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jasper de Jong Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: dinsdag 19 januari 1999 12:56 Onderwerp: Re: Mod matrix |* From Jasper de Jong | |> >What is a mod matrix??? | |> it's a way to connect midi controllers to any number of parameters inside a |> synth using a variable amount to control how much the parameter will be |> influenced by the controller. | |Hey, it's not only about midi-controllers. |It's more about connecting different modules inside the machine. In a |vx-600 or matrix you can for example just take env2 out and route it to |whatever you want (cutoff, FM). |Think about controlling the lfo1 speed with the lfo2. |Maybe Access could add a few menu's with, say, three matrix-slots. It |sure brings huge flexibility. Jip, but the VX-600 needs 30minutes to warm up. Compaired to the Virus, the Virus is sounding much better. (more open). I can tell because I had two VX-600. Another thing: Will the Virus also be a synth that will apear in Creamware Pulsar(Scope)? Creamware did put a Juno-106 (with a different name) and a wavetable oscillator in their new Pulsar(Scope). They might draw a Virus-like synthesizer with another name and put it in the Pulsar(Scope)? Lucky enough the SHARK dsp will not eat the sounds of the Virus, our?? So Access, what will you do when they make a look-alike Virus in the Creamware Pulsar(Scope), that converts all Virus sounds. Oeps, Rob Papen -still looking for samples in my MiniMoog- Rob | |Bye, |jasper | | |-- |jsdejong@wxs.nl |http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong | |OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 | | |___________________________________________________________________________ |The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and |is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is |available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! | ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 18:56:32 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Mod matrix Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:51:52 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton I'd say 4 routings would probably be enough given the current number of default routings. However, even with the Matrix 6, it's easy to hit the limit of 10 routings. Considering the Nord Modular is fully routable, it's polyphony can be reduced to 4 voices, I wouldn't want to sacrifice that much polyphony for the sake of full modulation. Maybe 1 or 2 voices. Question to Access: With the current fixed modulations, what percentage of the CPU is left over? Question to List Members: If full modulation were available, would you be content to have this capability as a software only option as with the Nord, then upload the sounds to the engine? >>-----Original Message----- >>From: lowlifeform [mailto:vcs3@usa.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 2:26 AM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: Mod matrix >> >> >>* From lowlifeform >> >> >> >>>* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" >> >>>it's a way to connect midi controllers to any number of parameters inside a synth >> >> >>>* From "Peter Korsten" >> >>>It means that you can assign what MIDI controller controls which parameter on your synth >> >> >>Hmmmmmmmm . . . . . . . >>That's only part of the story; We are forgetting something important here. The very point of a modulation matrix for me is to GET AWAY from sending midi-controllers all over the place. (I'm old fashioned, you know, just like analog synths) >> >>For me, a four slot modulation matrix looks like this: >> >>Modulation Source 1 -> Amount 1 -> Destination 1 Modulation Source 2 -> Amount 2 -> Destination 2 Modulation Source 3 -> Amount 3 -> Destination 3 Modulation Source 4 -> Amount 4 -> Destination 4 >> >>The modulation sources are not only midi contollers, BUT ALSO the 3 LFOs, the 2 envelope generators, definitely noise and possibly other exotic things such as LFO * Envelope etc. etc. >> >>Have a look at the Waldorf Pulse. >> >>The modulation destinations are of course too many too mention, but I hope that the following will get your mouth watering: LFO frequency, >>envelope times, filter balance, oscillator wave, LFO symmetry, sub-osc >>volume, noise level, filter env amount, fm amount, (ring-mod level!!), >>mod amount 1 (2, 3, 4), and so on. There are hundreds more. >> >>I don't care if the menus for this sort of thing are hidden deep inside. Perhaps the Virus could have three user levels instead of just two: 1)Easy, 2)Expert, 3)Mad Professor ! >> >>Come on Howard, Paul. Back me up on this ! >> >> >>LoLife >>-_-_-_ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ________________________________________________________________________ ___ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 18:57:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: 30minutes and Creamware Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:53:18 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton Blasphemy! >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rob Papen [mailto:robpapen@multiweb.nl] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:06 AM >>To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: 30minutes and Creamware >> >> >>* From "Rob Papen" >> >> >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>Van: Jasper de Jong >>Aan: access-list@teklab.com Datum: dinsdag 19 januari 1999 12:56 >>Onderwerp: Re: Mod matrix >> >> >>|* From Jasper de Jong | >>|> >What is a mod matrix??? >>| >>|> it's a way to connect midi controllers to any number of parameters inside >>a >>|> synth using a variable amount to control how much the parameter will be >>|> influenced by the controller. >>| >>|Hey, it's not only about midi-controllers. |It's more about connecting different modules inside the machine. In a >>|vx-600 or matrix you can for example just take env2 out and route it to >>|whatever you want (cutoff, FM). >>|Think about controlling the lfo1 speed with the lfo2. |Maybe Access could add a few menu's with, say, three matrix-slots. It >>|sure brings huge flexibility. >> >> >>Jip, but the VX-600 needs 30minutes to warm up. Compaired to the Virus, the Virus is sounding much better. (more open). >>I can tell because I had two VX-600. >> >>Another thing: >> >>Will the Virus also be a synth that will apear in Creamware Pulsar(Scope)? >>Creamware did put a Juno-106 (with a different name) and a wavetable oscillator in their new Pulsar(Scope). >> >>They might draw a Virus-like synthesizer with another name and put it in the >>Pulsar(Scope)? >>Lucky enough the SHARK dsp will not eat the sounds of the Virus, our?? >> >>So Access, what will you do when they make a look-alike Virus in the Creamware Pulsar(Scope), that converts all Virus sounds. >> >>Oeps, >> >>Rob Papen >> >>-still looking for samples in my MiniMoog- >> >>Rob >> >> >>| >>|Bye, >>|jasper >>| >>| >>|-- >>|jsdejong@wxs.nl >>|http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong >>| >>|OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 | >>| >>|____________________________________________________________ _______________ >>|The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>|is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>|available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >>| >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 23:13:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:15:54 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >I'd say 4 routings would probably be enough given the current number of default routings. However, even with the Matrix 6, it's easy to hit the limit of 10 routings. It's the same on my VX-600, but you've got to make ALL connection in this matrix, so not even the env1 or gate -> vca is fixed. >Considering the Nord Modular is fully routable, it's polyphony can be reduced to 4 voices, I wouldn't want to sacrifice that much polyphony for the sake of full modulation. Maybe 1 or 2 voices. Yes, but maybe you can make something like this: when the vocoder is working you lose a voice, but when it's off you'll have the full 12 voices (the vocoder must take _lots_ of cpu power, in the nord it takes 50%!). >Question to Access: With the current fixed modulations, what percentage of the CPU is left over? >Question to List Members: If full modulation were available, would you be content to have this capability as a software only option as with the Nord, then upload the sounds to the engine? Nah, it'll take probably not more then 10 extra menu pages to do this, that shouldn't be the problem should it? BTW, nice to have such a direct and fruitful mailinglist! Bye Jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 19 23:56:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:53:03 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 14:04 19-1-99 +0100, you wrote: >Sounds like a HIGH-SCORE function.... >Every well done knob-turn makes 100 sound-points, and a super sound will get an extra-life! I'm sure, Dimitri will install a "HALL OF FAME" at once :) Huh? Who, me? You mena at the EVP page? Okay, if everybody who has a new personal record just sends his scores i'll add it! ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 01:30:01 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 01:28:30 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:15 PM +0100 on 19.01.1999 Jasper de Jong wrote: >* From Jasper de Jong > >Yes, but maybe you can make something like this: when the vocoder is working you lose a voice, but when it's off you'll have the full 12 voices (the vocoder must take _lots_ of cpu power, in the nord it takes 50%!). Well, that's the way the vocoder works right now. If you don't use it, you don't lose any voices. If you do use it, 32 bands take up about 3-4 voices. > >>Question to Access: With the current fixed modulations, what percentage of the CPU is left over? >>Question to List Members: If full modulation were available, would you be content to have this capability as a software only option as with the Nord, then upload the sounds to the engine? No way. I wouldn't want that on the Virus. Not an editor. No way. I want it all in there. Sorry, but that is one of the reasons I use a Virus and not a Nord Modular... immediacy is the word here...;) > >Nah, it'll take probably not more then 10 extra menu pages to do this, that shouldn't be the problem should it? actually maybe two pages per modulation could be enough. But maybe that looks a bit cramped. we'll see. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 04:40:45 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Subject: Re: the future of the virus... Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:33:48 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "lauger" >* From "Peter Korsten" > >But you already can write your own OS for the Virus. Just reverse engineer the MIDI file that contains the OS. If you open the Virus, you can look what >microcontroller they're using -- and it's not the one labeled Motorola 56303 >:-) -- and get the information online from the chip manufacturer. > >It's a lot of work and illegal in the States, but that's beside the issue. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes, very unfortunate. stupid politics :) > >Access sells you an instrument, not a computer. That this instrument happens >to be based on computer technology is not very relevant. If you were a carpenter, would you make modifications to your Steinway grand piano? > well, like i said, the ideas are not meant to be taken totally seriously. yet i do believe there is a future in this. look at the nord modular. how long do you think it will be before they create a windows interface to allow users to create their own modules? i suspect it will happen eventually. i actually agree with you more than you might think. with only 24 hours in a day, i myself am sure i would spend much more time playing the virus as an instrument than trying to reprogram it. still, i believe it is an interesting idea to think about. as soon as synths turned digital, much of the "modding" done to analog synths went away - it was just to hard to go in and modify a box of computer chips. however now that many machines are using "off-the-shelf" dsp processors, it becomes much more feasible for ambitious users to modify digital synths. >It's the software that makes the Virus special. It's not too hard to build a >computer with a small microcontroller and a DSP. Just get the evaluation kit >from Motorola, Analog Devices, you name it. If Access would be selling the >hardware and release the software SDK, some Asian firm would copy design, >sell it for half the price and Access would be out of business before you can say "duh". you are very correct, the problem is primarily a business one. how to protect the intellectual property of the software? i do not claim to have the answers but i do predict that in the future someone will solve this problem. for if it could be solved, a company could only gain from it. "normal" users would continue to buy the products(the virus in this case) simply to have a wonderful musical instrument. however the company would find a whole new market in buyers who buy the instrument primarily in order to create new features for it. think about the game quake. a good deal of it's success is due to the many add-on's that people have made for it. i myself have barely played the actual 1 player quake that comes on the quake cd, however i have spent far too many hours playing capture the flag and other 3rd party add-ons. yes, it may be a bit off-base to compare a synth to a video game, but like i said - these are only ideas. just something fun to talk about :) >>A second(and more feasible) idea - what if access released "experimental" o.s.'s? >>These would have to be strictly "no support" releases which had no priority >>over the >>"real o.s." but still had neat functions. >> >Hmm, would all people who bought their Virus not to make music but to get the latest beta software please raise their hands? > then you would simply not download those clearly-marked "experimental" o.s. look at linux for example, it has a new kernal released almost daily. some download and use them, some don't. in fact i think this idea would almost bring more happiness to the virus programmers than to users. there are many times when i (working as a software developer) would like to show some small little modification to someone but few people are actually interested. i think it would be neat if someday access posted a .mid file to the mailling list which did some interesting but useless thing to the virus. sure i would reinstall the "real" o.s. right after i played around with the "joke" one. but it would be fun none-the-less. oh well, these are just ideas to talk about... -jack ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 05:14:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:09:00 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: the future of the virus... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn hehehee with all the talk of mods and whatnot it brings up the one thing I always wanted to do.... repleace all the yellow orange LEDs with Blue ones.....possible? CrAzYjOn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 12:28:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:24:45 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: the future of the virus... Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner At 23:09 19.01.99 -0500, you wrote: >* From CrAzYjOn > > > >hehehee > >with all the talk of mods and whatnot it brings up the one thing I always wanted >to do.... > >repleace all the yellow orange LEDs with Blue ones.....possible? > Yes, possible of course - but it is not as simple, as one may believe. You do not have only to out-solder all leds, you also need a power-supply with more power, 'cause blue leds need more current. It's only something for experienced people, which have additionally enough time to exercise also different hobbies with the virus but make music with it (or him! (or her? :) )). Jörg ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 16:24:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Paul D'Amato" To: "Access" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:22:28 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Paul D'Amato" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 15:40:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:32:11 +0000 From: bROthERs tEsTaS To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE !!! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE !!! X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 17:01:19 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: How to Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:00:56 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe access-list >---------- >From: Paul D'Amato[SMTP:sevin@worldnet.att.net] Reply To: access-list@teklab.com >Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 9:22 AM To: Access >Subject: unsubscribe > >* From "Paul D'Amato" > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ _ >The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 17:22:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: s-cappiello@pop.ski.mskcc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:23:02 -0500 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Steven Cappiello Subject: Re: opinions? Virus vs. Supernova Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Steven Cappiello is there no one on this list that has an opinion on how the Virus stacks up against the Supernova...? >Dear Access list, > >Does anyone have any opinions with regard to the Virus vs. the Supernova by Novation? > >Thanks! >-Steven > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 17:48:14 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Blackstone Hamilton To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: opinions? Virus vs. Supernova Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:43:53 -0800 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Blackstone Hamilton Haven't even seen one in the US. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Steven Cappiello [mailto:s-cappiello@ski.mskcc.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 8:23 AM To: access-list@teklab.com >>Subject: Re: opinions? Virus vs. Supernova >> >> >>* From Steven Cappiello >> >> >>is there no one on this list that has >>an opinion on how the Virus stacks up >>against the Supernova...? >> >> >>>Dear Access list, >>> >>>Does anyone have any opinions with regard to the Virus vs. the Supernova by Novation? >>> >>>Thanks! >>>-Steven >>> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ ______________ >>The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and >>is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is >>available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 17:59:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Synthworld@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:54:35 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: opinions? Virus vs. Supernova Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Synthworld@aol.com In a message dated 1/20/99 9:26:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, s- cappiello@ski.mskcc.org writes: > >* From Steven Cappiello > > >is there no one on this list that has >an opinion on how the Virus stacks up >against the Supernova...? My personal opinion: While reviewing the Supernova for Keyboard magazine I discovered that the Supernova really IS a very good synth; far better than the initial factory presets would lead one to believe. The programming interface works really well and I was able to whip up some very nice patches. It has a different character of sound than any of the other virtual analog synths out there and sounds a lot like older Roland polyphonic synths (like the JX-10) to me. However, you could also get it to sound convincingly "Moog-like" in a mix. It is very versatile and I would like to own one someday. In comparison to the Virus, the biggest difference is - the "character tone" of the Virus is more individualistic. It sounds like a Virus; not like a Moog or a Roland or a Clavia. That's why I own a Virus. Each instrument in my home studio is there because it does things that none of the other synths do as well, or it has such a strong character of tone that it is worthy of the studio space. The unique voice of the Virus compliments my Nord Lead and Nord Modular "virtual analog cohorts" quite well without being redundant. How an instrument sounds to YOU should be the number one reason (above any other spec) for choosing it over any other. Ask yourself, "Does it sing to me?" The Supernova might sing to you, or the Virus might be truer to the voice you want to hear. If it does, then snag it and start making music. I have heard everything out there and a lot of synthesizers speak a wide vocabulary but they don't all sing. Both the Virus and the Supernova do, but they sound quite a bit different from each other. So, the bottom line is: they are both great synths so give em both a try. One of them will sing to ya'. Zon (Synthworld@aol.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 17:54:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:57:43 -0800 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: Access List Subject: Global Expression Control Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM Hello all, I've been using the Virus with a Trinity to layer pad sounds. The Virus will not globally respond to a expression controller pedal. Unfortunately, the expression control in the Assigment section of the Edit menu only allows limited volume control and I would like to have 0 (silence) to 127 (loudest "normal" volume) available. Is this a Virus or Trinity issue? Are the CC assignments different (the Trinity manual is not easily obtained)? Has anyone gotten an expression pedal to control the Virus' full volume range? Thanks, Daniel Catron. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 20 18:30:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:01:20 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: The Ultimate Mod Matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha Regarding a mod matrix for the Virus. Given that the Virus already has the capability to assign (a limited but very useful) range of up to six parameters for modulation via external continuous controllers (mod wheel, breath control etc.,) For me, by far the most important feature for the Virus mod matrix to have is to be able to assign the 2 envelopes (inc. amp env.) and 3 very useful lfo/envelopes as sources (as well as lfo speed to destinations, enabling lfos to modulate lfo speed, depth etc.) Keytrack, pitch follow and portamento time would also be useful . In other words, the internally generated mod sources should be freely assignable to a nice long list of destinations, including themselves in some cases. Also it would be useful to be able to choose fractions or integers of the lfo speed once the rate has been set. (1/8, 1/4 ,1/2, 1, 2/1, 4/1, 8/1 etc) as sources. So 1 lfo could function as many lfos. For example: Lfo 2 to pan (1/1) and lfo 2 (1/2) to modulate filter cutoff 1. As the machine stands I cannot do this quite simple patch and other quite simple ones, even using both lfo1 and 2 (and 3!) The problem is not that the Virus has limited modulators, but it lacks the ability to use them. Hence the need for a mod matrix, to make full use of the Virus' resources. Along the same lines, adding an envelope mode to lfo 3 ( with adjustable Tri. Symmetry ) would effectively deal with the lack of a third envelope generator. Pushing the boat out a bit further, The ability to choose different waveshape outputs for the same lfo (as it does on my Lexicon MPX 1) would be even more useful. For example: lfo 2, square, to pan and lfo 2, triangle, to filter cutoff. or combined with the above: lfo 2, 1/1, square, to pan and lfo 2, 1/4, triangle, to filter cutoff. Thats all for now, Bilbo Bagginz (Cosmosis) -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis >From "Peter Korsten" >>* From Davidzzz@aol.com >> >>What is a mod matrix??? >That's a modulation matrix. It means that you can assign what MIDI controller controls which parameter on your synth. >AA similar feature is the ability to assign what physical controller (velocity, aftertouch, ribbon controller X/Y, etc.) uses what MIDI controller. So Aftertouch could control MIDI controller #42 and hey presto, >Aftertouch controls Ring Modulation. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 10:34:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:44:32 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: multi-single : help ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Hi list, I need your help! Whenever I make a patch which I like, I save it as a small midi file by doing a dump of the single sound to Cubase. Now I've got a whole directory full of nice sounds. My preferred way of sequencing the Virus from Cubase is in multi-single mode, accessing a different patch via each midi channel. Now my question is this: How can I use the single-dumps to change the patch on the fly, for a given part? I would have thought that it would be possible to import the midi file containing the single-patch and send it out to the Virus on the appropriate channel. But this does not seem to work. As far as I can tell, the dump is only sent to the part which is currently being shown in the display, and has nothing to do with the midi channel used. I had a look at the manual, but found no reference to this. Does anyone understand what I am getting at??? LoLife -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 07:54:49 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Mod matrix Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:49:51 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Canine writes.. >>What is a mod matrix? > >it's a way to connect midi controllers to any number of parameters inside a >synth using a variable amount to control how much the parameter will be influenced by the controller. Well, it's more than that. Actually, we have that feature now in a limited fashion with the assign 1,2,3 knobs, which is very useful. But a real mod matrix does not just let you take MIDI control values as sources. You can also take the output of modules within the synth, so that an LFO can control something else, such as an envelope parameter, to give you the sound of somethinging approaching and receding in rhythm. Or you might have a pad where the filter envelope would inversely modulate the resonance - as well as the filter - by a small amount (you just have to hear this one). My personal favorite thing is to have two LFOs acting on several parameters at once in varying amounts, some of which are indirectly modulating the LFOs themselves, causing them to spdup'n sloooowww doooooowwwwwnnnnn inwyrd waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyys-s-s-s. The Waldorf pulse has a mod matrix, as do the Microwave synths and the new Q. But the cheapest way to get your hands on one of these is to get an Oberheim Matrix synth. these are fairly old now, about 12-15 years, and they are pretty cheap. I have a Matrix-6 rack, which is still huge - I could fit 4 Viruses inside it :) The keyboard versions usually have aftertouch. Try to get a Matrix-6 or a matrix 1000. The matric 12 has some more goodies but it uses nasty analog oscillators and has problems staying in tune for long. The Matrix 6 and 1000 use digital oscillators and hardly ever go out of tune, heh heh. These are cheap because compared to many synths today the Oberheim sounds weak, and it's also a real pain in the ass to program. The Matricks-12 gave you knobs, but the other models came from the minimalist button school of synth design. I had my Matrix 6 for 3 months before I figured out how to save the patches I was creating :) In fact, one of Access's earlier products (before the Virus) was a controller for the Matrix series. In fact, the Matrix can sound amazing when you program it, and a controller is a great way to learn the machine. I had some setups on a Peavey pc1600 which gave me some insight into the machine. Funny, it was my Virus which helped me really understand how to program it though :) So the good part about mod matrices is that they sound wild and crazy, which is something we all like. The bad news is that it may need some 'rewiring' in the software of the virus to make the different data types match properly in real time and modulate each other in a recognizable way. Actually this should not be so hard if all MIDI input is normalised to a common data type like an 8-bit word or something before the math, but I am not a programmer. There is the problem of the extra interface controls. Programming need not be so hard, but it will be really confusing for people who don't understand how the sound is being modulated. And finally the problem that it's also easy to produce awful or silent sounds using the mod matrix, which can lead to confusion! What is my opinion? I would certainly enjoy having one, and I would get even weireder sounds from my Virus. On the other hand, I think it is a lot of extra synth power to do this. Also you can not add features forever. Waldorf and Nord seem to have some very powerful alternatives, and Oberheims are one of the best-kept secrets of synthesis and very affordable. So I will not blame Access if they do not include this feature. However! There are some similar ways the Virus could be improved without too much extra work. It would be very nice to include the arpeggio division as a destination in the assign controllers. Also to include more parameters under the filter envelope mod - that time knob is just sooooooooooooo good, I want to use it on everything (like the OB ramp). Then allow one way to either share or swap the destination of the LFO, and SOME way for the LFOs to mod each other. These would be my priorities, and would keep me very happy while I was waiting for the Access Lunar Module ;) Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 08:48:16 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:38:36 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Louis Bartok ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:22:24 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [Louis Bartok ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Wed Jan 20 23:22:18 1999 >Received: from apollo.is.co.za (apollo.is.co.za [196.4.160.2]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA19313 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:22:14 -0800 Received: from exhsrv.softconn.co.za (catsrv.softconn.co.za [196.33.208.25]) by apollo.is.co.za (8.8.6/8.7.5/IShub#2) with ESMTP id JAA02424 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:14:26 +0200 (GMT) Received: by EXHSRV with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:12:26 +0200 Message-ID: From: Louis Bartok To: "'access-list@tl36.teklab.com'" Subject: louisb@sotfconn.co.za >Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:17:18 +0200 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi there? Louis Bartok here, I am a owner of a Access Virus, Is there any patches for sounds to save me time making them? Thanks Louis Bartok j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 08:59:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "marian kubinec" To: Subject: test Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:58:29 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness Hi! Sorry , but this is only test for my new e-mail adress check my home page http://www.space.cz/home/envelope sorry once time! bye X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 11:26:52 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Philipp Mott" To: "access-list@teklab.com" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:23:08 +0100 Subject: Re: multi-single : help ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Philipp Mott" On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:44:32, lowlifeform wrote: >Now my question is this: How can I use the single-dumps to change the patch on the fly, for a given part? I would have thought that it would be possible to import the midi file containing the single-patch and send it out to the Virus on the appropriate channel. The VIRUS has different dump formats for dumping and restoring either bank information (that's probably what you used), single edit buffer and multi edit buffers. You might want to check my Studio Module driver - contributed to canine, is it there somewhere ? It is capable of handling the different buffers. CU flp ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 03:42:40 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:39:36 -0800 From: Buddha Organization: Laughing Buddha Music Productions To: "access-list@tl36.teklab.com" Subject: Ultimate Mod Matrix (V1.2) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Buddha Being slightly horrified that I could not understand my own posting, here it is again in coherent english. (And well done to anybody who managed to decipher what exactly I was ranting about) Regarding a mod matrix for the Virus. Given that the Virus already has the capability to assign (a limited but very useful) range of up to six parameters for modulation via external continuous controllers (mod wheel, breath control etc) by far the most important feature for the Virus mod matrix to have is to be able to assign the 2 envelopes ( amp env. and filter env.) and the 3 very useful lfo/envelopes as sources (not forgetting to add lfo speed and depth to destinations to enable one lfo to modulate another lfo's speed or depth etc.) Keytrack, pitch follow and portamento time would also be useful sources. In other words, the internally generated mod sources should be freely assignable to a nice long list of destinations, including themselves in some cases. Also it would be useful to be able to choose different fractions or integers of the lfo speed once the rate has been set, to use as more sources (1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2/1, 4/1, 8/1 of lfo speed) So that one lfo could function as many lfos. So for example in this patch: < Lfo 2 to pan (rate:1/1) and lfo 2 (rate:1/2) to modulate filter cutoff 1. > both destinations are modulated at different rates by the same lfo As the machine stands I cannot do this quite simple patch and other simple ones, even using both lfo1 and 2 or even all 3 for that matter. The problem is not that the Virus has limited modulators, but it lacks the ability to use them. Hence the need for a mod matrix, to make full use of the Virus' resources. Along the same lines, adding an envelope mode to lfo 3 ( with adjustable Tri. Symmetry ) would effectively deal with the lack of a third envelope generator. Pushing the boat out a bit further, The ability to choose different waveshape outputs for the same lfo (as it does on my Lexicon MPX 1) would be even more useful. For example imagine the patch: < lfo 2, shape: square to pan and lfo 2, shape: triangle to filter cutoff.> or combined with the above: < lfo 2, rate:1/1, shape: square to pan and lfo 2, rate:1/4, shape: triangle to filter cutoff.> Many more creative possibilities, I would say enough for most people (except for mad professors of course ) Bilbo Bagginz (Cosmosis) -- http://www.innerverse.com/cosmosis ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 12:04:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:52:53 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Global Expression Control Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 5:57 PM +0100 on 20.01.1999 DTM wrote: >* From DTM > >Hello all, > >I've been using the Virus with a Trinity to layer pad sounds. The Virus will not globally respond to a expression controller pedal. Unfortunately, the expression control in the Assigment section of the Edit menu only allows limited volume control and I would like to have 0 hm, where is that edit menu? A good idea might be to hook up both synths to Logic on the computer, create a physical input and a monitor object, connect them to each other and watch what is coming in and out... Other than that, you need to be a bit more specific, I'm afraid I am not entirely sure where the problem rests... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 12:04:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:54:51 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: The Ultimate Mod Matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 1:01 AM +0100 on 21.01.1999 Buddha wrote: >Thats all for now, > >Bilbo Bagginz >(Cosmosis) pretty good stuff you are suggesting there. Let's see what 3.0 will bring us...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 13:35:34 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:27:18 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: The Ultimate Mod Matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com just a YES- vote for more routing possibilities... greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 18:53:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Mod matrix Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:46:57 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >I don't care if the menus for this sort of thing are hidden deep inside. Perhaps the Virus could have three user levels instead of just two: 1)Easy, 2)Expert, 3)Mad Professor ! Trouble is ... I'd be rummaging around in MP Mode all day and wouldn't get round to washing my dishes (or myself) ;-) At least the Prion should have a modulation matrix, but Access have surprised us before with new features for the Virus, so maybe... ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 18:53:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Mod matrix Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:48:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >...the front panel. There will be little tests built into the OS. In the middle of a gig the Virus will ask you: "Please create the settings for a pad using both envelopes". The Virus will look up and beep to signal errors if you mess up. If you find settings that make sense, the Virus will activate the next level, playing a little "victory" melody. > >Maybe I have been playing too much quake lately...;) Or have you been having trouble with an SSL desk? ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 20:29:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: 614230@pop.gmx.net (Unverified) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:24:45 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: thilo koch Subject: unsubscribe tiko@gmx.net Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From thilo koch ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 21:19:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:21:24 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >At least the Prion should have a modulation matrix, but Access have surprised us before with new features for the Virus, so maybe... This may be a stupid question, but what's a Prion? Never heard of it.... Thanks jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 22:19:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elwood.Smith@Chase.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHASE To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:16:44 -0500 Subject: inputs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elwood.Smith@chase.com Can someone give me an Idea on how to get the inputs working on the virus and to activate that sound, i am a Novice to this machine, I would like to plug up my microphone (if possible) and output my voice, also I would like to have an idea on what i can use the inputs for, e.g. can I run the output of the Orbit or any other rack synth through it . thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 22:48:25 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:49:26 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 9:21 PM +0100 on 21.01.1999 Jasper de Jong wrote: >This may be a stupid question, but what's a Prion? Never heard of it.... It is a protein more sophisticated than a virus that makes cows do funny dances then die. It also is the proposed name for a successor to the Virus by Access. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 23:02:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:00:06 -0600 From: chuck To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Vocoder Effect..? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From chuck Does anyone on the list know how to get the vocoder type effect that is used on Cher's club song 'Do u believe in life after love' it is an interesting vocoder shift type effect used on the lead vox in the beginning of the song, and i haven't been able to figure it out on my Virus yet... Thanks, Chuck. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 23:05:12 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:05:42 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: inputs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 10:16 PM +0100 on 21.01.1999 Elwood.Smith@Chase.com wrote: >* From Elwood.Smith@chase.com > >Can someone give me an Idea on how to get the inputs working on the virus and to activate that sound, i am a Novice to this machine, I would like to plug up my microphone (if possible) and output my voice, also I would like to have an idea on what i can use the inputs for, e.g. can I run the output of the Orbit or any other rack synth through it . Hm do you not have a manual? You will have to read either way (Email or Manual) so don't ask us to type unless you don't have a manual or can't understand it... (There are PDF-files of the manual on my website as well as on TSi's site at http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access/virus.html) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 23:09:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:11:00 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Vocoder Effect..? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:00 PM +0100 on 21.01.1999 chuck wrote: >Does anyone on the list know how to get the vocoder type effect that is used on Cher's club song 'Do u believe in life after love' > >it is an interesting vocoder shift type effect used on the lead vox in the beginning of the song, and i haven't been able to figure it out on my Virus yet... I believe that it is not a vocoder after all. German Keyboards writes it was made using the Antares AT-1, the hardware 1ru version ($2000+) of their Autotune VST plugin. a truely awesome effect, I must agree...! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 23:24:46 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:18:42 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: inputs Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn >Hm do you not have a manual? You will have to read either way (Email or Manual) so don't ask us to type unless you don't have a manual or can't understand it... (There are PDF-files of the manual on my website as well as on TSi's site at http://www.tsi-gmbh.de/access/virus.html) > That had to have been the nicest, funnyest RTFM reply I have ever seen CrAzYjOn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 21 23:26:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Jim B-Reay To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Vocoder Effect..? Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:27:12 -0600 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jim B-Reay >Does anyone on the list know how to get the vocoder type effect that is used on Cher's club song 'Do u believe in life after love' I thought that somebody had posted that her voice had been heavily processed through Antares Autotune on that song? Like, she just talked, and autotune forced the melody, which is why it sounds very odd. Or was that something else? Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 00:25:26 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:15:02 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Vocoder Effect..? Cc: music-bar@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I believe that it is not a vocoder after all. German Keyboards writes it was made using the Antares AT-1, the hardware 1ru version ($2000+) of their Autotune VST plugin. >a truely awesome effect, I must agree...! A friend of mine, Jono, from the a3k-list achieved a similar effect on a vocal line he did in his "CityLife" tune, which you can hear here: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/ (will be moved to the a3k/A3K_SONGS/MPEG3/ dir soon) He told me he got it by messing around with the vocal sample in SoundForge, using the basic SoundForge tools. If you're interested in that effect, drop him a line at jono@teklab.com. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 00:39:38 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:37:05 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: RE: Vocoder Effect..? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda At 16:27 21-1-99 -0600, you wrote: >>Does anyone on the list know how to get the vocoder type effect that is used on Cher's club song 'Do u believe in life after love' >I thought that somebody had posted that her voice had been heavily processed through Antares Autotune on that song? Like, she just talked, and autotune forced the melody, which is why it sounds very odd. When I heard this song the first time, I thought it was done with an sound2midi converter, you know, which analyses the freq of the input, and sends a midi note. Like a MIDI-guitar. I guess that's the same as an 'autotune'. But i thoought that maybe then it was put through a tube, put in your mouth, and the sound is taken over by a microphone. Like that synth that makes your teeth fall out we talked about a month or 2 ago. And if it's not, it would be nice to try if I had the equipment. Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 02:42:03 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:37:54 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoder Effect..? X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >Does anyone on the list know how to get the vocoder type effect that is used on Cher's club song 'Do u believe in life after love' > To me it definitely sounds like a talkbox. like in CALIFORNIA (the thing with the tube in the mouth, wich is bad for your teeth ...). You can't achieve this sound with any vocoder. Guido Kirsch access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 08:11:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-HotPOP: -------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com -------------------------------------------- From: "lauger" To: Cc: Subject: access virus in chicago Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:15:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness A few people have mentioned seeing the Access Virus at various music stores in the Chicago area in the past. I thought I'd saved those messages but can't seem to find them now. Could anyone who knows of a store that might have the virus please post it to the store? If it is one of the many guitar centers, could you mention which location you saw it at? I'm planning a trip in the next few days and have given up on calling the stores and asking them if they have it. In the past they have told me they didn't and then I later find out that the person on the phone just didn't know what they where talking about. Thanks for any help... X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 08:13:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:18:30 -0800 From: DTM X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: OT: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From DTM The prion is much smaller than most viral particles (let alone a viral genome--it's DNA and/or RNA). It is composed of protein (a short sequence of amino acids) and that's all! It's still a mystery as to how it causes such drastic changes and seems to behave like an infectious particle. My theory is it is a class of chameronin-type enzyme. The prion, as Canine mentioned, is resonsible for subacute spongiform encephalopathies (Kuru or mad cow disease). SSE turns the "brain into sponge" as the name implies. It's really nasty, and I probably won't eat much English beef for awhile. I would be more than happy to go on, but many will be begging me to quit (or already have). The ramblings of a bionerd...afterall, I had to work with viruses to get my Virus. DTM. "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >* From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" > >At 9:21 PM +0100 on 21.01.1999 Jasper de Jong wrote: >>This may be a stupid question, but what's a Prion? Never heard of it.... > >It is a protein more sophisticated than a virus that makes cows do funny dances then die. It also is the proposed name for a successor to the Virus by Access. > >think different! > >Canine > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 09:45:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:42:53 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: EVP page updated. WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! The homepage of the European Virus Posse has been updated! Finally! It has frames and... a Logo! Now there's one problem... I didn't update it well, so you can't see the logo yet, I can't do it from here, and won't be able to change it until monday-evening probably... But the information is presented better now, some new users, quotes and hardware suggestions made on the list are put on the page. It's at http://145.99.128.7/evp Have fun! Dimitri ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 14:30:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elwood.Smith@Chase.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHASE To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:32:54 -0500 Subject: Re: access virus in chicago Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I bought mine from the Guitar Center in sSprinfield, New Jersey "lauger" on 01/21/99 11:15:11 PM Please respond to access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com cc: music-bar@teklab.com (bcc: Elwood Smith/CHASE) Subject: access virus in chicago A few people have mentioned seeing the Access Virus at various music stores in the Chicago area in the past. I thought I'd saved those messages but can't seem to find them now. Could anyone who knows of a store that might have the virus please post it to the store? If it is one of the many guitar centers, could you mention which location you saw it at? I'm planning a trip in the next few days and have given up on calling the stores and asking them if they have it. In the past they have told me they didn't and then I later find out that the person on the phone just didn't know what they where talking about. Thanks for any help... Content-Type: text/html; name="att-1.htm" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="att-1.htm" Content-Description: Internet HTML Attachment converted: SCSI Disk 1050:att-1.htm (TEXT/MSIE) (0000A216)X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 14:55:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:55:09 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: OT: endless moog Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" (apologies to everyone who is also on the waldorf list, you know about this already) there is a company that put their Moog system 55 on the net with a real audio/video stream. Check it out at: Aslo we are streaming MOOG ENDLESS. Moog system 55 moduler screaming streaming 24 hours! http://www.cavestudio.com/S+V/moog_endless.html I thought it was pretty impressive, sounded like radiowaves from space, like Close Encounters, like something that was not supposed to be on the net yet...,) check it out. think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 15:02:31 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:00:28 +0100 From: Stefan Nee X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoder Effect..? Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Stefan Nee I know it was done with Antares Autotune plug-in. I believe the "Cher" effect appears when Autotune forces the tone to stay in tune even though the original vocals glide from one tone to the other. I haven't tried the Virus vocoder yet, but to me it seems it can't be done with a vocoder. FYI //Stefan chuck wrote: >Does anyone on the list know how to get the vocoder type effect that is used on Cher's club song 'Do u believe in life after love' ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 18:39:22 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: multi-single : help ! (is on the way ! :=) ) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 99 18:38:07 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz lowlifeform wrote : >Does anyone understand what I am getting at??? hi, if i understand u right ,u want to change one patch while beeing in multisinglemode. the patches u saved as a part in cubase by dumping the patch are created in the singlemode,i bet... :-) the virus does NOT use the singlepatches from the singlemode in the direct-access-way. if u are in multisinglemode and u use for example patch 001 bank a the virus COPIES the patch OUT of the singlemode INTO the multisinglemode, wich means that there is the UNTOUCHED PATCH IN THE SINGLEMODE,and a COPY of it in the multisinglemode,which u can edit independently. so u cannot send a SINGLEMODE PATCH (dumped from the singlemode into cubase) to MULTISINGLEMODE. for the virus its (if u do so) simply the wrong adress the patch is sent to.... so,as far i can see (someone please correct me if im wrong !!) there is no posibility to "programchange" one PATCH in multisinglemode,because there is no option that allowes u to dump ONE multisinglepatch, only the complete multisinglemode. anyway,this option might be not implemented because its not "usual" to use different patches on the same output,because its very tricky to handle when it comes to the mixdown,thinking of the individual eq,compression and all that.... but since the virus does sound so good that u mostly just have to make a simple adjustment (in the mix), your whish comes closer to me too,sometimes. btw, did u try to store the multisinglemode u created first,then copy it , make the individual settings u need ,store it again to another place (also the singles both times,but for each multisinglesetup remember to use different storageplaces for the individual singlepatches!),and then,in your song, simply dump and recieve (programchange) the complete multisetup?this "should" work...(i never tried it !!).. :=) its not the "golden" way,but if it brings the results u want.......... good luck, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "CHILL WITH EVERY FRAME" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 18:39:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Vocoder Effect..? NO!!! Date: Fri, 22 Jan 99 18:38:09 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz Guido Kirsch wrote : >Does anyone on the list know how to get the vocoder type effect >>that is used on Cher's club song 'Do u believe in life after love' >> > >To me it definitely sounds like a talkbox. hi, its not.its not a vocoder,too. its the plugin "autotune" by antares (or the hardwareversion of it). its made for adjusting incorrect tunings and intonations automaticly (such as bad singers do:=)......) if u use it the "wrong" way,then it sounds like this. if u listen close to that song u will notice that this effect appears only at useful places on the vocaltakes. against all romours cher DID sing the song,NOT autotune(someone wrote in the list that cher didTALK the text and autotune did SING it.that is not possible in this case,because the colour (formants) of her voice is still a "singing one" not a "talkin one",wich would sound very different o the original singing parts in the song). greetings, nico --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "CHILL WITH EVERY FRAME" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Fri Jan 22 23:04:00 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:50:07 EST To: access-list@teklab.com, lauger@punkass.com Subject: Re: access virus in chicago Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 1/22/99 1:12:47 AM, lauger@punkass.com writes: >A few people have mentioned seeing the Access Virus at various music stores in the Chicago area in the past. Guitar Center on Halstead (you have to look for it, they put it in funny places like the digital workstations) Gand Music, Frontage Rd. in Northfield (more fun place to shop, more professional, more expensive!!!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 23 00:09:11 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:58:11 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["Scott L. Holmes" ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:52:04 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["Scott L. Holmes" ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Fri Jan 22 14:51:59 1999 >Received: from mailhost.dplus.net (dplus.net [206.181.96.7]) by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13287 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:51:58 -0800 Received: from dell2 ([209.116.184.226]) by mailhost.dplus.net >(Post.Office MTA v3.5 release 215 ID# 0-51971U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01be465a$e247a660$e2b874d1@dell2.nhdg.com> From: "Scott L. Holmes" To: , , , >, >"Steven Cappiello" Subject: Re: Tool's "Enema" / more than usual CD info. Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:59:36 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 > >I know that Robert Fripp does this. I found out that the entire Discipline Global Mobile record label is on one of his CDs quite by accident. I was working in the studio and I wanted to listen to the CD on my computer. I put it in and instead of the CD Player program coming up, his catalog started! Really cool. > >I suspect to check Tool's (I don't have it), merely put it in your computer. Check the files in your favorite file lister and see if there are any setup programs if it doesn't start up automatically. > >Many CD Burner (for instance NTI CD-Maker Pro 95) programs will let you easily combine data and audio on CDR. Most CD players just ignore the data portion. > >Scott > >From: Steven Cappiello Subject: OT: Tool's "Enema" / more than usual CD info. > > >>Someone just told me that Tool's "Enema" CD has more information on it than a "normal" CD. Is this possible? and if so, does anyone know how it can be done ?? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 23 01:30:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "cybie" To: Subject: RE: access virus in NEW JERSEY Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:19:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "cybie" >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >[mailto:owner-access-list@teklab.com]On Behalf Of Elwood.Smith@Chase.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 8:33 AM >To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: access virus in chicago > > >I bought mine from the Guitar Center in sSprinfield, New Jersey > > > > >"lauger" on 01/21/99 11:15:11 PM > >Please respond to access-list@teklab.com > Hey! Thats where I got my virus this past summer. I used to work 15 minutes from there. Anyone else in NJ/NYC area have the virus? Reply to me directly cybie@cyberwar.com thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 23 02:29:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:30:45 +0100 To: access-list@tl36.teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: links and rechts Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" heeeloo tovarishi, I just added a linkpage to my site. In the process I noticed that I apparently have lost some of the links that people have sent me over time. Please resubmit all links that aren't mentioned on my page and please include a short description (one or two sentences) along with it. thanks! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 23 07:35:27 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["Scott L. Holmes" ] Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:27:06 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Thomas Whitmore" Hi Jay, why do the messages seemingly from you have so much non-message crap in them? Please fix this. Cheers, Thomas Example : * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:52:04 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["Scott L. Holmes" ] > >>From jay@teklab.com Fri Jan 22 14:51:59 1999 >Received: from mailhost.dplus.net (dplus.net [206.181.96.7]) >by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13287 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:51:58 -0800 Received: from dell2 ([209.116.184.226]) by mailhost.dplus.net >(Post.Office MTA v3.5 release 215 ID# 0-51971U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id net; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01be465a$e247a660$e2b874d1@dell2.nhdg.com> From: "Scott L. Holmes" To: , , , >, >"Steven Cappiello" Subject: Re: Tool's "Enema" / more than usual CD info. Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:59:36 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; >charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 > >I know that Robert Fripp does this. I found out that the entire Discipline Global Mobile record label is on one of his CDs quite by accident. I was working in the studio and I wanted to listen to the CD on my computer. I put it in and instead of the CD Player program coming up, his catalog started! Really cool. > >I suspect to check Tool's (I don't have it), merely put it in your computer. >Check the files in your favorite file lister and see if there are any setup programs if it doesn't start up automatically. > >Many CD Burner (for instance NTI CD-Maker Pro 95) programs will let you easily combine data and audio on CDR. Most CD players just ignore the data portion. > >Scott > >From: Steven Cappiello Subject: OT: Tool's "Enema" / more than usual CD info. > > >>Someone just told me that Tool's "Enema" CD has more information on it than a "normal" CD. Is this possible? and if so, does anyone know how it can be done ?? j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 23 07:55:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:44:44 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from ["Scott L. Holmes" ] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan At 07:27 PM 1/23/99 +1300, you wrote: >* From "Thomas Whitmore" > >Hi Jay, > >why do the messages seemingly from you have so much non-message crap in them? > >Please fix this. > They're not *from* me, I'm just forwarding the bounces that I get, as the mail administrator of this list. Forwarding it to the list myself is usually a good way of showing people they've got something wrong with their mail setup and/or list subscription, at the same time as putting their content on the list. And I include *all* the junk so that the original person whose message it is can work out what the hell went wrong. Hope that explains it to you. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sat Jan 23 19:11:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:10:19 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: OT: Tool's "Enema" / more than usual CD info. To: access-list@teklab.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Rick Reyes I am not sure if its the CD you are talking about, but my friend had one of their old CDs that did this. He accessed the extra tracks by advancing the tracks until it hit the extra track(s). I think there where around 15-30 blank tracks between the last track and the extra... Rick >Someone just told me that Tool's "Enema" CD has more information on it than a "normal" CD. > >Is this possible? and if so, does anyone know how it can be done ?? > >thanks. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 08:23:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:25:43 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Organization: SoundHome To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: multi-single : help ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Guenther Albrecht no fear: you can load / send the various parts of a multi buffer, so only one single sound buffer is changed. this is in the dreaded SysEx implementation... regards .g.a. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Sun Jan 24 14:52:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:48:54 +0100 (NFT) From: Hagen Lorenz To: Access List Subject: volume keyfollow Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Hagen Lorenz Hi, can somebody tell me, how the patch volume is controlled by the key? There is a keyfollow for the filter cutoff but i cannot find this for the volume. It also doesn't seem to be possible to ASSIGN the MIDI note as a source. My problem is that i want to make the low notes louder or at least as loud as the middle ones and dont know how. Thanks in advance, Hagen ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 00:50:04 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:38:10 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [raym3@worldnet.att.net.spam.not.welcome (Ray Markarian)] Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:19:01 -0800 >From: owner-access-list@teklab.com >X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f >To: owner-access-list@teklab.com >Subject: BOUNCE access-list@teklab.com: Non-member submission from [raym3@worldnet.att.net.spam.not.welcome (Ray Markarian)] > >>From jay@teklab.com Sun Jan 24 06:18:59 1999 >Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) > by tl36.teklab.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA32740 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:18:58 -0800 Received: from 37.new-york-13-14rs.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.78.197.37]) >by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP >id ><19990124141107.FXFG16065@37.new-york-13-14rs.ny.dial-access.att.net> >for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:11:07 +0000 From: raym3@worldnet.att.net.spam.not.welcome (Ray Markarian) To: access-list@teklab.com >Subject: Re: volume keyfollow >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:11:31 GMT >Message-ID: <36ab29e6.2491967@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: > In-Reply-To: > X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tl36.teklab.com id GAA32741 > >On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:48:54 +0100 (NFT), you wrote: > >>* From Hagen Lorenz >> >>Hi, >> >>can somebody tell me, how the patch volume is controlled by the key? There is a keyfollow for the filter cutoff but i cannot find this for the volume. It also doesn't seem to be possible to ASSIGN the MIDI note as a source. >>My problem is that i want to make the low notes louder or at least as loud as the middle ones and dont know how. >> >>Thanks in advance, >>Hagen >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > >-- >Regards, > >Ray j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 03:27:56 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: raym3@worldnet.att.net (Ray Markarian) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: MULTI sounds gone - HELP Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:26:08 GMT Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From raym3@worldnet.att.net (Ray Markarian) Hi I just bought a Viru and I noticed M24 through M126 are all set to 'A0 Overture K'. Is this normal or should I return it and get a new one? -- Regards, Ray ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 03:39:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:29:54 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: MULTI sounds gone - HELP Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >I just bought a Viru and I noticed M24 through M126 are all set to 'A0 Overture K'. Is this normal or should I return it and get a new one? That's not normal. Whether or not you should return it and get a new one is up to you, but if it were me I'd try and upgrade it to the latest OS first, load in the factory sounds, and see if that fixes it. See the URL at the bottom of this message for OS upgrade details ... j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 09:15:21 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:13:29 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform I really think NOISE should be available as a modulation source. It introduces a certain element of uncertainty when used to modulate oscillator frequency. A control for "NOISE COLOUR" would be a good idea, too. -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 17:47:39 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:41:10 +0000 From: Ronald Pieket X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Ronald Pieket lowlifeform wrote: >I really think NOISE should be available as a modulation source. It introduces a certain element of uncertainty when used to modulate oscillator frequency. A control for "NOISE COLOUR" would be a good idea, too. In my experience, modulating the frequency of an oscillator with white noise sounds exactly the same as if you mix white noise into the output of the oscilllator. Only when the noise spectrum is somehow limited, does it sound different from mixing noise directly with the output. But that would require an extra filter. And as for modulating with low frequency noise, try the Sample&Glide waveform on LFO1, with the LFO frequency cranked to the max. In effect, this *is* low frequency filtered noise. This might give you the effect you are after. - Ronald Pieket. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 12:43:02 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: meissjdp@mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:39:38 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Meissner Subject: Re: MULTI sounds gone - HELP Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Joerg Meissner At 02:26 25.01.99 GMT, you wrote: >* From raym3@worldnet.att.net (Ray Markarian) > >Hi >I just bought a Viru and I noticed M24 through M126 are all set to 'A0 Overture K'. Is this normal or should I return it and get a new one? >-- >Regards, > >Ray This is normal! Jörg Meissner access ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 12:54:35 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Subject: Re: Mod matrix Date: Mon, 25 Jan 99 12:52:52 -0000 x-sender: nolowcut@mail1.stuttgart.netsurf.de From: Nico Herz To: "Access List" Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Nico Herz lowlifeform wrote : >I really think NOISE should be available as a modulation source. It introduces a certain element of uncertainty when used to modulate oscillator frequency. A control for "NOISE COLOUR" would be a good idea, too. 1 0 0 % AGREED. (just thinking of what we can create with this possibillity and a ringmodulator,wich i hope is going to be included in one of the upcoming sytem-upgrades.... :=) ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nico Herz nolowcut@gmx.de "CHILL WITH EVERY FRAME" ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 20:14:23 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:17:33 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Mod matrix Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jasper de Jong Hi! >And as for modulating with low frequency noise, try the Sample&Glide waveform on LFO1, with the LFO frequency cranked to the max. In effect, this *is* low frequency filtered noise. This might give you the effect you are after. That brings me to another question: what's the range of the virus' lfo's, do they go into audio range? Thanks! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Mon Jan 25 22:41:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:28:31 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Namm Show Cc: CKe9644719@aol.com Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >Come to visit us on the Namm Show. I'm leaving for L.A tomorrow. We are probably listed under our distributor TSI / Waldorf. Would be great to meet somebody from the mailing list. Please answer to my privat mailing address. Hi Christoph! I will definitely see you there - I'll be exhibiting our new products in the Yamaha pavilion, and will make it a point to swing by and see you guys! I run the access virus mailing list here at TekLab, in case you didn't know... :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 26 22:36:59 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:28:54 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform Well, I'm using multi-single mode more and more recently. This leads me to the subject of voice-stealing. It is not always easy to tell whether (at any particular moment) voices are being stolen because the maximum number of voices has been reached. So it would be nice to have some indication (either in the display, or by some clever use of the LEDs) that the maximum number of voices has been exceeded. Is this possible? -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 26 11:24:42 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:23:16 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com >Well, I'm using multi-single mode more and more recently. This leads me to the subject of voice-stealing. It is not always easy to tell whether (at any particular moment) voices are being stolen because the maximum number of voices has been reached. >So it would be nice to have some indication (either in the display, or by some clever use of the LEDs) that the maximum number of voices has been exceeded. Is this possible? this would be usefull indeed ! maybe Access could make all the led's start blinking when the maxium number of voices has been exceeded... greetings, Steven ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 26 11:32:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Oliver Szigan To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:28:54 +0100 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Oliver Szigan ok, that would be useful - sometimes, but please use a page in the ctrl menu or whereever in the lcd display if you really need to know. all these led blinking all the time... I would have to wear sunglasses all the time ;) >-----Original Message----- >From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com [SMTP:steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 11:23 AM > >this would be usefull indeed ! > >maybe Access could make all the led's start blinking when the maxium number of voices has been exceeded... > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 26 10:52:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:49:04 +0000 (GMT) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re:Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From di-mi@dds.nl Hello! Yes, that's a good idea! I don't need a CPU% indicator, an overload/voice stealing indicator would be fine too! Dimitri. lowlifeform schreef: >* From lowlifeform > > >Well, I'm using multi-single mode more and more recently. This >leads me to the subject of voice-stealing. It is not always easy >to tell whether (at any particular moment) voices are being stolen >because the maximum number of voices has been reached. > >So it would be nice to have some indication (either in the display, or by some clever use of the LEDs) that the maximum >number of voices has been exceeded. Is this possible? ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 26 13:15:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:12:21 From: lowlifeform To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From lowlifeform OK, I've had a little think about this. It didn't hurt ! (much). We have the following symbols which appear in the top line of the display: quarter-note, half-note, sysex, clock and controller (knob). (Are there more?) I would suggest a new symbol, like a "smiley", but with the mouth inverted, so he is frowning. This would indicate voice-stealing, and would remain in the display for about a second. You could start your sequencer running and observe this symbol to check for stealing. How about it? -_-_-_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 26 16:22:50 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:41:57 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 12:12 PM +0100 on 26.01.1999 lowlifeform wrote: >I would suggest a new symbol, like a "smiley", but with the mouth inverted, so he is frowning. This would indicate voice-stealing, and would remain in the display for about a second. You could start your sequencer running and observe this symbol to check for stealing. How about it? If you can't *hear* voice stealing why would you need an indicator about it? If you can *hear* voice stealing, why do you need a visual indicator about it? The good thing about the Virus is that note stealing occurs very intelligently (SmartCrook(tm)-Technology) so you can't *hear* it. So I don't really get your point here... think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Tue Jan 26 18:57:10 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:53:18 +0100 From: Anders Palmqvist To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness K.9 Kai Niggemann wrote: If you can't *hear* voice stealing why would you need an indicator about it? If you can *hear* voice stealing, why do you need a visual indicator about it? The good thing about the Virus is that note stealing occurs very intelligently (SmartCrook(tm)-Technology) so you can't *hear* it. So I don't really get your point here... think different! Canine Thereīs a lot of things we can *hear* from the Virus that isstill handy to get a graphic indication on. If you have a big mix going with a lot of stuff involved part from the Virus and 'something' is missing or sounding strange it would be helpful to get fast information on why. And if the problem is that you threw in that extra twin-moded pad somewhere down the line itīs faster/smoother/cooler to find that out from the display than from starting counting how many voices, on how many tracks, at the same time, with how many in twin-mode or in vocoder-action...or even worse, start looking for muted parts or lost midi-information. I really get the point here... Anders X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 02:15:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:34:13 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 6:53 PM +0100 on 26.01.1999 Anders Palmqvist wrote: >twin-mode or in vocoder-action...or even worse, start looking for muted parts or lost midi-information. well in that case you are probably right. It just seemed a bit dilbert-esque at first...;) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 02:13:44 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:39:49 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Fwd: virus rack mount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Jay Vaughan >From: CW808@aol.com >Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:38:49 EST >To: list-admin@teklab.com >Subject: virus rack mount >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 > >I purchased a rack mount kit from a store in New York. And for the life of me I can't figure out what to do with it. I'm not even sure if this store sent me the right kit. It was just two L-shaped brackets rubber-banded together. I hoping you can help me. j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com Chief Technologist : http://www.teklab.com Partner, TekLab | la, calif. Q:[8008] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[DALNet/#a3k/Torpor] ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 01:55:05 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Re: Voices . . . stolen ! ! ! Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:54:08 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Howard Scarr" >So it would be nice to have some indication (either in the display, or by some clever use of the LEDs) that the maximum number of voices has been exceeded. Is this possible? As low lifeforms go, you have some pretty good ideas... Clever use of the LEDs? How about indicating note-stealing by inverting the transpose LEDs (i.e. all are lit except the current octave). The inversion should have a fairly sharp attack and longer decay of course, otherwise the flashing LEDs would give you the screaming heebie-jeebies! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 02:23:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:21:32 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: virus rack mount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall >>From: CW808@aol.com >>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:38:49 EST >>Subject: virus rack mount >> >>I purchased a rack mount kit from a store in New York. And for the life of me I can't figure out what to do with it. I'm not even sure if this store sent me the right kit. It was just two L-shaped brackets rubber-banded together. I hoping you can help me. You have to take the wooden side panels off and replace them with the L-brackets. Unscrew the case, and carefully unscrew the side panels (the screws are on the inside). The side panels may be lightly glued to the metal chassis, so be carefull. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 08:18:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: Mod matrix Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:15:34 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Jasper de Jong asked... >That brings me to another question: >what's the range of the virus' lfo's, do they go into audio range? No. It would be rather cool if they did though. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 13:41:07 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:33:44 +0100 Organization: access To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: virus rack mount X-Sender: 066165694-0001@t-online.de From: access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >You have to take the wooden side panels off and replace them with the L-brackets. Unscrew the case, and carefully unscrew the side panels (the screws are on the inside). The side panels may be lightly glued to the metal chassis, so be carefull. No, no, no, stop it !!! You have the wrong kit! You normally get a new bottom plate with those rack ears mounted. You change the old bottom with the wood parts with the new one with the metal brackets by unsrewing the 6 bottom srews. That's all.You won't destroy your wooden cheeks! Those 'lonely' pairs of L-brackets were sold at last years namm due to a mistake. We apologise for that. Guido Kirsch mechanical tests department access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 17:04:13 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elwood.Smith@Chase.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHASE To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:24:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Fwd: virus rack mount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Elwood.Smith@chase.com The wood panels on the virus makes it look very nice, besides it seems easier to operate the virus on a flat top as oppose to a rack mount especially if your rack mount case doesn't mount synths on an angle. Simon Gatrall on 01/26/99 08:21:32 PM Please respond to access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com cc: (bcc: Elwood Smith/CHASE) Subject: Re: Fwd: virus rack mount * From Simon Gatrall >>From: CW808@aol.com >>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:38:49 EST >>Subject: virus rack mount >> >>I purchased a rack mount kit from a store in New York. And for the life of me I can't figure out what to do with it. I'm not even sure if this store sent me the right kit. It was just two L-shaped brackets rubber-banded together. I hoping you can help me. You have to take the wooden side panels off and replace them with the L-brackets. Unscrew the case, and carefully unscrew the side panels (the screws are on the inside). The side panels may be lightly glued to the metal chassis, so be carefull. -s!mon ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 17:57:55 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Marcel Engels" To: Subject: RE: Fwd: virus rack mount Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:00:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Marcel Engels" >* From Elwood.Smith@chase.com > >The wood panels on the virus makes it look very nice, besides it seems easier to operate the virus on a flat top as oppose to a rack mount especially if your rack mount case doesn't mount synths on an angle. I can only speak for myself of course, but I'm GLAD I finally have the rack mount for the Virus... Of course the wooden ends look great, but for me it's so much more practical to use it in a rack... I have no clue where I should put it otherwise when I have a concert... And I have no problems with the cables when it's in the rack, but that may depend on what rack you have... Later! Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@wxs.nl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 19:17:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Thomas Eigel Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:14:26 +0100 (MET) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Sound tutorials Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Thomas Eigel hello! are there any sound tutorials (especially for the vocoder) somewhere in the net. I think of step-by-step tutorials like for 3d-studio. thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 19:54:09 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:51:27 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: RE: Fwd: virus rack mount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! >I can only speak for myself of course, but I'm GLAD I finally have the rack mount for the Virus... >Of course the wooden ends look great, but for me it's so much more practical to use it in a rack... >I have no clue where I should put it otherwise when I have a concert... Well, my brother uses-how do they call it in English? Those boards my mother uses in combination with a big, hot, electric thing to make my clothing look flat. In Dutch it is a 'strijkplank'. They are very inexpensive, esecially second hand, and the public think you're just being very original and creative. Ideal to put your virus on!! Dimitri. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 20:12:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:06:13 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus rack mount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com That would be an ironing board. I sit my Virus on the right top of my K2000. Next to it I rest a Rave-O- Lution309, which I use to run the Virus. On the Virus I have Multis which match up with the channels of the ROL309. Access would do well to make their own ROL-like front-end for the Virus. While the K2000 may cost more than an ironing board, I find it makes a better sample player. B << Well, my brother uses-how do they call it in English? Those boards my mother uses in combination with a big, hot, electric thing to make my clothing look flat. >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 20:30:17 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: di-mi@dds.nl Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:27:15 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Sijperda Hello! Say, do you know where I can buy a cheap K2000 ironing board? :-) I always thought that the 309 wasn't usable as an external sequencer, but this is not true? My problem is, I have about Hfl2000.- to spend (about $1000 ), I really need a good hardware sequencer and a sampler (especially for drums) for live performances, but I don't know what to choose! An sp808? A 309? A regelwerk in combination with a small sampler? So, how do you like the 309 with the virus? Maybe that would be a good option... Dimitri. At 14:06 27-1-99 EST, you wrote: >* From BHaber@aol.com > >That would be an ironing board. > >I sit my Virus on the right top of my K2000. Next to it I rest a Rave-O- Lution309, which I use to run the Virus. On the Virus I have Multis which match up with the channels of the ROL309. Access would do well to make their own ROL-like front-end for the Virus. > >While the K2000 may cost more than an ironing board, I find it makes a better sample player. > >B > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 20:57:33 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: BHaber@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:43:43 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From BHaber@aol.com Here is a live videocam of my K2K/Virus setup: http://members.aol.com/bhaber/buzztv.html or you can link to it off of my home page: http://members.aol.com/bhaber/ Anyway, I pretty much LOVE my ROL-K2K setup. The only problem is, if I set it up so that I can control Virus VCF, Q, or whatever from the ROL knobs, if I change patterns on the ROL, it sends a huge mess of controlers that totally screw up the Virus, so it's mostly down to quickly switching between singles on the Virus, tweaking the knob, switching again. But yeah, the ROL309 sends MIDI and controllers. So it makes a great external sequencer, particularly with the 303-style patches on the Virus and the Virus's drums, which are so good I don't need a TR-909 anymore! The ROL309's sounds are gar-bage, though, I think. Maybe you could find a cheapo K2K, or else try that SP202 with a used ROL309? B << Say, do you know where I can buy a cheap K2000 ironing board? :-) I always thought that the 309 wasn't usable as an external sequencer, but this is not true? My problem is, I have about Hfl2000.- to spend (about $1000 ), I really need a good hardware sequencer and a sampler (especially for drums) for live performances, but I don't know what to choose! An sp808? A 309? A regelwerk in combination with a small sampler? So, how do you like the 309 with the virus? Maybe that would be a good option... >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 22:53:24 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:43:37 EST To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: virus rack mount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Marzzz@aol.com In a message dated 1/27/99 10:09:46 AM, Elwood.Smith@Chase.com writes: >The wood panels on the virus makes it look very nice, besides it seems easier to operate the virus on a flat top as oppose to a rack mount especially if your rack mount case doesn't mount synths on an angle. Which reminds me, Does anyone know if there's a "wood end panel" for the Waldorf XT if you don't want to rackmount that, either? I am planning on getting a large formica board to put on my keyboard stand, and put all these wonderful knobby modules on it, just above the master keyboard. Marshall ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Wed Jan 27 23:33:37 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:32:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Dimitri Sijperda schrieb: > >* From Dimitri Sijperda > >Hello! > >Say, do you know where I can buy a cheap K2000 ironing board? :-) I always thought that the 309 wasn't usable as an external sequencer, but this is not true? >My problem is, I have about Hfl2000.- to spend (about $1000 ), I really need a good hardware sequencer and a sampler (especially for drums) for live performances, but I don't know what to choose! An sp808? A 309? A regelwerk in combination with a small sampler? So, how do you like the 309 with the virus? Maybe that would be a good option... > >Dimitri. Hi Dimitri ! When youīre searching for a good Hardwareseqeuncer,try the Roland MC-303. This maschine is great for live performances.You can control up to 8 midi out channels. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens W. ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 00:18:30 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:14:43 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "K.9 Kai Niggemann" At 11:32 PM +0100 on 27.01.1999 Jens Wegerhoff wrote: >>My problem is, I have about Hfl2000.- to spend (about $1000 ), I really need a good hardware sequencer and a sampler (especially for drums) for live performances, but I don't know what to choose! An sp808? A 309? A regelwerk in combination with a small sampler? So, how do you like the 309 with the virus? Maybe that would be a good option... >> how about an MPC 2000? if you get a used one, that should fit into your budget, right? think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 00:28:43 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:26:45 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Hello! Are you sure? I have an antipathy against the mc-303, but i can't say why. That's why i never paid attention to it. Maybe I should try it at the shop! Dimitri. Op Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Jens Wegerhoff schreef: >* From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) > >Dimitri Sijperda schrieb: >> >>* From Dimitri Sijperda >> >>Hello! >> >>Say, do you know where I can buy a cheap K2000 ironing board? :-) I always thought that the 309 wasn't usable as an external sequencer, but this is not true? >>My problem is, I have about Hfl2000.- to spend (about $1000 ), I really need a good hardware sequencer and a sampler (especially for drums) for live performances, but I don't know what to choose! An sp808? A 309? A regelwerk in combination with a small sampler? So, how do you like the 309 with the virus? Maybe that would be a good option... >> >>Dimitri. > >Hi Dimitri ! > >When youĨre searching for a good Hardwareseqeuncer,try the Roland MC-303. >This maschine is great for live performances.You can control up to 8 midi out >channels. > > >Stay Fresh , Stay Cool > >Jens W. >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! > ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 00:54:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:52:30 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Gatrall X-Sender: gatrall@slip-3 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fwd: virus rack mount Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Simon Gatrall No bad merchandise. I got my rack mount "kit" last year at NAMM (free from Christophe - thanks). I had no idea that there was an updated version. -s!mon On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net wrote: >* From weldelectronica@worldnet.att.net > >sounds like geoff at gsf passing bad merchandise!! hehehe >Weld > >Guido Kirsch wrote: >> >>* From access-me@t-online.de (Guido Kirsch) >> >>>You have to take the wooden side panels off and replace them with the L-brackets. Unscrew the case, and carefully unscrew the side panels (the screws are on the inside). The side panels may be lightly glued to the metal chassis, so be carefull. >> >>No, no, no, stop it !!! You have the wrong kit! You normally get a new bottom plate with those rack ears mounted. You change the old bottom with the wood parts with the new one with the metal brackets by unsrewing the 6 bottom srews. That's all.You won't destroy your wooden cheeks! >> >>Those 'lonely' pairs of L-brackets were sold at last years namm due to a mistake. We apologise for that. >> >>Guido Kirsch >>mechanical tests department >>access music electronics ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 02:23:28 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:16:19 -0500 From: CrAzYjOn Organization: Penguinz Rule X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From CrAzYjOn Jens Wegerhoff wrote: > > >Hi Dimitri ! > >When youīre searching for a good Hardwareseqeuncer,try the Roland MC-303. >This maschine is great for live performances.You can control up to 8 midi out >channels. > >Stay Fresh , Stay Cool > >Jens W. I just sold my MC-303 to get my new sampler (well its used...I got an ESI-32 with the turbo kit, and 32M of ram for 400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) All I used my 303 for was sequencing (I would never use any sound from the mc303...they are waaaaaaaaaaaaay lame), it's great for live prefomances, you can have 8 tracks running (but only on ch 1-7 & 10)..the only problems (especially in terms of using it to control the virus) is that you can not record sysex info to it (nor transmit from) I think my next hardware seqencer will be the Notron ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) CrAzYjOn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 04:56:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: RE: 30minutes and Creamware Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:53:10 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Christoph Kemper wrote: >They did also a Mini Moog emulation with about 3 Hz midi controller update rate. >My impression: The screen design is excellent :) I missed this message last week, but I had to reply. Christoph, your are being very unfair to the Pulsar. Everyone knows the original Minimoog did not have any MIDI at all, so 3 Hz is a very big improvement on nothing. I admit the Pulsar has no knobs, but that is because it is a computer card and most people would not want to leave their computer open while using the card. Anyway realtime control is only for people who cannot make up their minds about how they want the patch to sound for the whole song. Seriously, I am getting a Nord Micro Modular soon (this deal is too good to miss) and I will be very interested to try making a Virus-sounding patch with it. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 04:56:53 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: "Anig Browl" To: Subject: Small changes for 2.1+? Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:53:15 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From "Anig Browl" Well I do not know what is happening with the big plans for a mod Matrix in the virus. But here are a few small things I would like to see, which I do not believe take too much programming effort. I have the manual for the Motorola DSP chip now, so I am feeling more confident about asking these questions :) LFOs - can they work over 8 bars instead of 4? I guess it is possible to do the piece at 72 bpm or whatever and play in 4/8 time but this is a little confusing. Flanger - is there any way to clock it like the delay? How about controlling the phase of the flange so it starts falling or rising every time? If anyone has not played with this, I recommend you do so - I have been fiddling with one patch for 2 days because I like it so much. Set the feedback to a very high or low value and freak out. Filt Envelope Mod - more assignments would be nice. Last, a question: the shaper distortion shapes the sound, and it does indeed make for some very hard sounds (tank you friends for all the tips). But what is the actual shape? I guess adjusting Osc volume is the same as changing the envelope amount for the filter or something. But I am very curious to know why you picked one shape, or does it change over time in a way which I do not hear? I am having excellent results now by changing osc2 to non-octave values to bring out the beating between the two different tones. Anig Browl ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 08:17:48 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:15:39 +0100 (MET) From: Dimitri To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Dimitri Hello! The Notron, yes, she looks pretty great. My eye fell on that one too. Do you now its price? It's strange that they don't even have an internet site. Though that one can't send sysex dumps to my virus too, I think i can live with that. That's about the difference between the 303 and the notron: I can't fall in love with the 303, I can with the notron. It was the same when I bought my Virus. (Sigh) It's so hard to choose... Dimitri. >.I got an ESI-32 >with the >turbo kit, and 32M of ram for 400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) All I used my 303 for was sequencing >(I would never use any sound from the mc303...they are waaaaaaaaaaaaay lame), it's great >for live prefomances, you can have 8 tracks running (but only on ch 1-7 & 10)..the only problems >(especially in terms of using it to control the virus) is that you can not record sysex info to it >(nor transmit from) > >I think my next hardware seqencer will be the Notron ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 11:23:06 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is sgclarke@CSUFB1.csd.plym.ac.uk To: BHaber@aol.com, access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:30:36 +0000 Subject: 1)K2000 sequencer. 2)Virus crashes. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From S.G.Clarke@plymouth.ac.uk >or you can link to it off of my home page: http://members.aol.com/bhaber/ > >Anyway, I pretty much LOVE my ROL-K2K setup. The only problem is, if I set it >up so that I can control Virus VCF, Q, or whatever from the ROL knobs, if I change patterns on the ROL, it sends a huge mess of controlers that totally screw up the Virus, so it's mostly down to quickly switching between singles on the Virus, tweaking the knob, switching again. But yeah, the ROL309 sends MIDI and controllers. So it makes a great external sequencer, particularly with the 303-style patches on the Virus and the Virus's drums, which are so good I don't need a TR-909 anymore! The ROL309's sounds are gar-bage, though, >I think. > >Maybe you could find a cheapo K2K, or else try that SP202 with a used ROL309? > I also use a K2000 and Virus combination. It's great but there are some major problems with using the K2000 sequencer for live work. I write my tunes on Logic and them export them as MIDI files for the K2000 to use. This is much more of a tricky business than you might imagine. The K2000's sequencer has a maximum song size of 64K which is not enough for a 10 minute deep trance epic with lots of natty Hi Hat programming and tons of controller movements for the virus. You can effectively double this by using the arrange facility (which also gives you 32 MIDI channels) but it's still not enough. You can chain songs but the sequencer "glitches" at the changeover points which is not good. All in all it's not quite the neat solution to live work that I hoped for. I'm taking a computer out for live work at the moment! Incidently I did a gig last weekend in which my Virus crashed twice. how many seconds would it take you to mute 6 channels on your desk, switch the Virus off and on and then unmute the channels? That booting up period seems to last an eternity in this circumstance! Anybody know why it's crashing? it seems to happen during controller movements (panel set to internal). I for one would be happier if the Virus could be made more "bullet proof" in relation to crashing before than the team sort a modulation matrix out (wonderful as that would be). I have become highly suspicious of my Opcode Studio 64x MIDI interface in relation to this and other problems (to do with MIDI clock) I have had with my Virus but have yet to find it "guilty beyond reasonable doubt." Anyway OMS is a pain in the arse IMHO. Anybody out there had similar problems? (I'm running Logic on a Mac BTW.) Even if my interface does throw nasty things at the Virus from time to time I would hope that it would be possible to make the Virus more robust. Any comments Access? Now I know you're going to say "is this repeatable?" Christoph and the answer is - not by me. The Virus will hang several times one day and then be OK for a couple of weeks so I have no idea what's going on. I'm currently investigating things with the use of a MOTU MIDI express instead of the Opcode. I'll post anything I manage to find out when I get the time. Best Regards Steve (n-tropic) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 14:14:54 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f From: Elwood.Smith@Chase.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHASE To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:15:40 -0500 Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness I use the mpc 2000 to sequence, plus its a good sampler, its the bomb, beside its a better feel to tap on pads than tapping on your keyboard. CrAzYjOn on 01/27/99 08:16:19 PM Please respond to access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com cc: (bcc: Elwood Smith/CHASE) Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) * From CrAzYjOn Jens Wegerhoff wrote: > > >Hi Dimitri ! > >When you īre searching for a good Hardwareseqeuncer,try the Roland >MC-303. >This maschine is great for live performances.You can control up to 8 midi out >channels. > >Stay Fresh , Stay Cool > >Jens W. I just sold my MC-303 to get my new sampler (well its used...I got an ESI-32 with the turbo kit, and 32M of ram for 400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) All I used my 303 for was sequencing (I would never use any sound from the mc303...they are waaaaaaaaaaaaay lame), it's great for live prefomances, you can have 8 tracks running (but only on ch 1-7 & 10)..the only problems (especially in terms of using it to control the virus) is that you can not record sysex info to it (nor transmit from) I think my next hardware seqencer will be the Notron ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) CrAzYjOn ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 16:44:29 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:21:37 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: about realtime control Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen Anyway realtime control is only for people who >cannot make up their minds about how they want the patch to sound for the whole song. Dispite the fact that you are joking there are people who think this way. --- Martti Salminen Fleminginkatu 10 A 16 00530 HELSINKI mara.salminen@kolumbus.fi ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 16:45:18 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:36:50 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: k2000 ironing board & rave-o-lution 309 (Re: virus rack mount) X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-online.de From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) Hi Dimitri , Hi Jon , Hi everybody ! The sounds of the MC-303 are not good, thatīs right. I use my one only for drums. But think about the price.Itīs very cheap.And you have some good grooving arpeggiators in it and also at midi-out. Sure there are much better sequencers on the market with more "image",but Iīm still happy with my MC-303.It does itīs job. Stay Fresh , Stay Cool Jens W. Dimitri schrieb: > >* From Dimitri > >Hello! > >The Notron, yes, she looks pretty great. My eye fell on that one too. Do you now its price? It's strange that they don't even have an internet site. Though that one can't send sysex dumps to my virus too, I think i can live with that. That's about the difference between the 303 and the notron: I can't fall in love with the 303, I can with the notron. It was the same when I bought my Virus. (Sigh) It's so hard to choose... > >Dimitri. > >>.I got an ESI-32 >>with the >>turbo kit, and 32M of ram for 400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) All I used my 303 for was sequencing >>(I would never use any sound from the mc303...they are waaaaaaaaaaaaay lame), it's great >>for live prefomances, you can have 8 tracks running (but only on ch 1-7 & 10)..the only problems >>(especially in terms of using it to control the virus) is that you can not record sysex info to it >>(nor transmit from) >> >>I think my next hardware seqencer will be the Notron ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it! ___________________________________________________________________________ The Access Synth Discussion mailing list is a free service of TekLab, and is open to all members of the Internet community. The FAQ for this list is available from http://www.muenster.de/~canine/virus/ - please read it!X-From_: owner-access-list@tl36.teklab.com Thu Jan 28 16:44:36 1999 X-Delivered: at request of bin on bbaer X-Authentication-Warning: tl36.teklab.com: majordomo set sender to owner-access-list@teklab.com using -f X-Sender: kc9117@mail.kolumbus.fi Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:40:47 +0200 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Mara Salminen Subject: Virus crashes. Sender: owner-access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com X-TekLab: cre8ive_env:jayV. X-TekLab-Beer: Guinness * From Mara Salminen I for one would be happier if the Virus >could be made more "bullet proof" in relation to crashing before than the team sort a modulation matrix out (wonderful as that would be). Me too. I use the Virus in live situations with a midikeyboard just like a "normal" synth. After upgrading to 2.01 many problems went away. What still amazes me is the value "illegal" for parameter INPUT MODE that just comes from somewhere. Last time that happened to patches that I had stored from single bank B to single bank A. Not immediately, it happened when the Virus was switched off, because the next time I switched it on these patches were dead and I had to go through all of them and chance the parameter value to "off". I can live with it now that I know how to get rid