X-From_: access-list-return-646-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 2 02:32:46 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:34:32 EST Subject: Virus B price To: access-list@teklab.com Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone seen it offered for less, please let me know. thanks, danX-From_: access-list-return-647-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 2 03:28:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:30:08 EST Subject: Re: Virus B price To: access-list@teklab.com hey, << Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone seen it offered for less, please let me know. >> Novamusik has it for $1199. http://www.novamusik.com/mi01.htm Washington Music Center will price match that, so if NM doesn't have it in stock, you can order there. www.wmcworld.com Or, Eurosynth does claim to sell the B for $1149 but they are not very reliable imo. www.eurosynthusa.com Maybe you'll get lucky and find a used one for $1000 shipped like some people on this list ;-) See you later, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-648-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 2 05:10:19 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 22:08:06 -0600 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Virus B price To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 I got mine for $1145, but that may not be available to all. I would think that $1150 is an average GOOD price. Rick >Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone seen it offered for less, please let me know. > >thanks, >danX-From_: access-list-return-650-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 2 20:23:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Virus B price Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:28:39 -0800 X-Priority: 3 > >> >>Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone seen it >>offered for less, please let me know. >> > >HeyHey, the retail is $1795, guess your dealer does not make any money with you. Take it ;-) > >-Christoph > This is a good thing Chrstoph or there would be a whole whopping 35 people on the planet owning the new B model at that price, and more people shifting to the new little Nova. Notron comes to mind here. It's not hard to make a great thing and sell only 50 units, takes hard work and dedication that some companies don't want to put forth to make a great thing for the masses. Notron doesn't even have MP3's on his site, his marketing stinks... but he doesn't want to sell a ton of units as he can't solder that fast... Its the easy way out when a company has that "prestigous" thing going on like Waldorf. My hats off to Access for working hard to empower many people with quality, and pulling it off. I like the "sell more for less" plan (assuming a business model supports it) and that way more people are empowered. It does wonders for mankind when man inspires and empowers man. Some musicans can adopt this too. Don't fear losing a patch to a "competitor"... Give and teach to those that want your expertise, and it will come back to help you later if your heart is not in fear. Living in fear is just no fun. Money goes as quickly as it comes... it's a temporary thing, and yeah it's good don't be ashamed of having it. But the Magic that we can spread with all we do sticks around quite some time and others benifit and spread it... and it returns. I know you were teasing... I just woke up and feel philosophical :-) KintamaX-From_: access-list-return-651-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 2 21:53:46 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "t@nk3" To: Subject: Re: Virus B price Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:56:13 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: tanke@neuewelt.com wow......read below: : ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Kintama To: Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Virus B price > >> >>> >>>Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone seen >it >>>offered for less, please let me know. >>> >> >>HeyHey, the retail is $1795, guess your dealer does not make any money with >>you. Take it ;-) >> >>-Christoph >> > >This is a good thing Chrstoph or there would be a whole whopping 35 people on the planet owning the new B model at that price, and more people shifting >to the new little Nova. > >Notron comes to mind here. It's not hard to make a great thing and sell only 50 units, takes hard work and dedication that some companies don't want >to put forth to make a great thing for the masses. Notron doesn't even have >MP3's on his site, his marketing stinks... but he doesn't want to sell a ton >of units as he can't solder that fast... Its the easy way out when a company >has that "prestigous" thing going on like Waldorf. My hats off to Access for working hard to empower many people with quality, and pulling it off. > >I like the "sell more for less" plan (assuming a business model supports it) >and that way more people are empowered. It does wonders for mankind when man inspires and empowers man. > >Some musicans can adopt this too. Don't fear losing a patch to a "competitor"... Give and teach to those that want your expertise, and it will come back to help you later if your heart is not in fear. Living in fear is just no fun. > >Money goes as quickly as it comes... it's a temporary thing, and yeah it's good don't be ashamed of having it. But the Magic that we can spread with all we do sticks around quite some time and others benifit and spread it... >and it returns. > >I know you were teasing... I just woke up and feel philosophical :-) > >Kintama > X-From_: access-list-return-652-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 2 22:00:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "t@nk3" To: Subject: Fw: BOUNCE - your mail to " " Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:03:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: tanke@neuewelt.com why am i getting this mail in return although the original mail went to the list ?? jay ??? cheerz t@nk3 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: t@nk3 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: BOUNCE - your mail to " " >The user you mailed to is no longer part of Sony Online Entertainment: > >If this message is related to Sony Online Entertainment, please forward the message to the appropriate person with in SOE Otherwise, this person's new personal email address is: UNSPECIFIED > >This message was generated automatically by SOE's mail server and has not been sent onward to anyone for reading > >****************** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ************************** From access-list-return-651-dmoxon=station.sony.com@teklab.com Sun Jan 2 15:56:36 2000 >Received: from teklab.com (w168.z206111199.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [206.111.199.168]) >by monitor.station.sony.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19036 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20195 invoked by alias); 2 Jan 2000 20:56:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com >Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Received: (qmail 20188 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2000 20:56:46 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf5563$cf6529a0$9936ded4@tnk3> From: "t@nk3" >To: >References: <000601bf5557$940f2740$1d92e0d8@kintama> Subject: Re: Virus B price >Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:56:13 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; >charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: tanke@neuewelt.com > >wow......read below: > >: ) > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kintama >To: >Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 8:28 PM >Subject: Re: Virus B price > > >> >>> >>>> >>>>Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone >seen >>it >>>>offered for less, please let me know. >>>> >>> >>>HeyHey, the retail is $1795, guess your dealer does not make any money >with >>>you. Take it ;-) >>> >>>-Christoph >>> >> >>This is a good thing Chrstoph or there would be a whole whopping 35 people >>on the planet owning the new B model at that price, and more people >shifting >>to the new little Nova. >> >>Notron comes to mind here. It's not hard to make a great thing and sell only 50 units, takes hard work and dedication that some companies don't >want >>to put forth to make a great thing for the masses. Notron doesn't even >have >>MP3's on his site, his marketing stinks... but he doesn't want to sell a >ton >>of units as he can't solder that fast... Its the easy way out when a >company >>has that "prestigous" thing going on like Waldorf. My hats off to Access >>for working hard to empower many people with quality, and pulling it off. >> >>I like the "sell more for less" plan (assuming a business model supports >it) >>and that way more people are empowered. It does wonders for mankind when >>man inspires and empowers man. >> >>Some musicans can adopt this too. Don't fear losing a patch to a "competitor"... Give and teach to those that want your expertise, and it will come back to help you later if your heart is not in fear. Living in >>fear is just no fun. >> >>Money goes as quickly as it comes... it's a temporary thing, and yeah it's >>good don't be ashamed of having it. But the Magic that we can spread with >>all we do sticks around quite some time and others benifit and spread >it... >>and it returns. >> >>I know you were teasing... I just woke up and feel philosophical :-) >> >>Kintama >> >> > > > X-From_: access-list-return-653-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 3 02:51:35 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "D_Tikovoi" To: Subject: need help creating a sound Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:09:03 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Hi, I'm trying to achieve a rebound ball fx with the cutoff, you know starting slowly and accelerating progressively. Can anyone help me with this one ? DimitriX-From_: access-list-return-654-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 3 03:06:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 03:06:15 +0100 From: Michael Lauer Reply-To: Michael Lauer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fw: BOUNCE - your mail to " " >why am i getting this mail in return although the original mail went to the >list ?? Apparently the majordomo is not configured properly. Bounces really should go to the majordomo-owner, not to the sender. -- Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de --------------------------------------------------------- How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?X-From_: access-list-return-655-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 3 09:56:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: need help creating a sound Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 08:57:06 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:09:03 -0000, "D_Tikovoi" wrote: >I'm trying to achieve a rebound ball fx with the cutoff, you know starting slowly and accelerating progressively. Do you mean having an LFO chop the filter progressively faster? If so, you might consider setting one LFO to modulate cutoff, then setting another to Envelope Mode, picking a sawtooth, sending it inversely to modulate the speed of the first LFO so as it rises the first LFO speed increases. Is that the kind of thing you meant? You can also direct the first LFO to panning so it moves in stereo... Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-656-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 3 14:16:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "D_Tikovoi" To: , Subject: Re: need help creating a sound Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:16:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 THANKS !!! That's exactly the fx I was looking for ! Dimitri -----Original Message----- From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Monday, January 03, 2000 8:59 AM Subject: Re: need help creating a sound >On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:09:03 -0000, "D_Tikovoi" wrote: > >>I'm trying to achieve a rebound ball fx with the cutoff, you know starting slowly and accelerating progressively. >Do you mean having an LFO chop the filter progressively faster? If so, you might consider setting one LFO to modulate cutoff, then setting another to Envelope Mode, picking a sawtooth, sending it inversely to modulate the speed of the first LFO so as it rises the first LFO speed increases. Is that the kind of thing you meant? You can also direct the first LFO to panning so it moves in stereo... > >Paul > >--- >Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music >email: paul@softroom.co.uk >web: www.softroom.co.uk >--- >Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-657-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 3 14:20:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 14:48:21 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus B price Do you believe me now when i said that america is selling the most synths a lot cheaper then our dealers here in europe . Well , its clear that the retail price is the same but they sell it far below that price :( Oli CKe9644719@aol.com schrieb: >In einer eMail vom 02.01.00 02:34:55 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone seen it offered for less, please let me know. >> > >HeyHey, the retail is $1795, guess your dealer does not make any money with you. Take it ;-) > >-ChristophX-From_: access-list-return-658-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 19:41:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:43:04 -0800 Subject: Mailing List Spam? To: access-list@teklab.com Is it just me or have people seen an increase in SPAM since subscribing to the Virus mailing list? I'm not accusing anyone since it could be from a variety of sources but I have noticed that I seem to be getting lot's o' spam ever since subscribing. Is it just me? Sorry for the off-topic (Virus-wise) but I guess it is on topic on the subject of mailing lists. -Dennis X-From_: access-list-return-659-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 19:53:58 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "t@nk3" To: Subject: Re: Mailing List Spam? Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:57:13 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: tanke@neuewelt.com not for me..... and hopefully not in the future.... but i feel sorry for u ..... ; ) cheerz t@nk3 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 7:43 PM Subject: Mailing List Spam? >Is it just me or have people seen an increase in SPAM since subscribing to the Virus mailing list? I'm not accusing anyone since it could be from a variety of sources but I have noticed that I seem to be getting lot's o' spam ever since subscribing. Is it just me? > >Sorry for the off-topic (Virus-wise) but I guess it is on topic on the >subject of mailing lists. > >-Dennis > > X-From_: access-list-return-660-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 20:24:55 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:26:42 -0800 Subject: Re: Virus B price To: kintama@jps.net Cc: access-list@teklab.com No kidding... I got my Notron with its serial number 45 or so and was pretty shocked - hell I think its been available for over a year or two now and I just got mine. I personally enjoyed your short discourse there. Especially how he doesn't want to sell a ton of units 'cause he can't solder that fast. :) -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Virus B price Author: Non-HP-kintama (kintama@jps.net) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 1/2/00 11:28 AM > >> >>Hey, is $1229 the lowest i can get a virus b module??? Has anyone seen it >>offered for less, please let me know. >> > >HeyHey, the retail is $1795, guess your dealer does not make any money with you. Take it ;-) > >-Christoph > This is a good thing Chrstoph or there would be a whole whopping 35 people on the planet owning the new B model at that price, and more people shifting to the new little Nova. Notron comes to mind here. It's not hard to make a great thing and sell only 50 units, takes hard work and dedication that some companies don't want to put forth to make a great thing for the masses. Notron doesn't even have MP3's on his site, his marketing stinks... but he doesn't want to sell a ton of units as he can't solder that fast... Its the easy way out when a company has that "prestigous" thing going on like Waldorf. My hats off to Access for working hard to empower many people with quality, and pulling it off. I like the "sell more for less" plan (assuming a business model supports it) and that way more people are empowered. It does wonders for mankind when man inspires and empowers man. Some musicans can adopt this too. Don't fear losing a patch to a "competitor"... Give and teach to those that want your expertise, and it will come back to help you later if your heart is not in fear. Living in fear is just no fun. Money goes as quickly as it comes... it's a temporary thing, and yeah it's good don't be ashamed of having it. But the Magic that we can spread with all we do sticks around quite some time and others benifit and spread it... and it returns. I know you were teasing... I just woke up and feel philosophical :-) KintamaX-From_: access-list-return-661-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 20:29:13 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:30:56 EST Subject: Re: Virus B price To: access-list@teklab.com hi, What is the Notron homepage (url) or sites with other info on it? Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-662-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 21:57:04 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:50:29 +0100 From: Heiko Briebrecher X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: KnobDisplay Hi, Access-List ! I'm a very happy owner of a Virus KB with System 3.0 since Christmas. It really ROCKS !!!!!! But one thing: i'm not able to activate the KnobMode in the SYSTEM-Menu. I can switch it to short/long with the valuebuttons, but nothing really changes. Every time switching the menupage back and forth, the value is back to OFF !? ... no big deal, but i wonder if it's me or the Virus... :) As a complete newbie to the Virus, i'd also like to see a complete manual for 3.0 with all the ModMatrix/Effects/Vocoder/Input/whatever features described in one place. Writing documentation is boring and timeconsuming, but it would help a lot (at least me)! ... still wading through the 1.x manual ... :^)X-From_: access-list-return-663-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 22:00:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:02:23 -0800 Subject: Re: Virus B price To: ShawnClear@aol.com Cc: access-list@teklab.com Here's their homepage: http://frame1.cerbernet.co.uk/notron/ There's not much other info out there about it. I'm still a newbie to Notron but if you have any questions feel free to ask. Teklab also has a Notron mailing list but it is pretty much inactive. I've found it a great tool for writing cool lines on the Virus - I'll have a track real soon that makes use of both. -Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Virus B price Author: Non-HP-ShawnClear (ShawnClear@aol.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 1/4/00 11:30 AM hi, What is the Notron homepage (url) or sites with other info on it? Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-664-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 22:39:57 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:42:20 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Virus B price To: access-list@teklab.com Is it possible to sequence a whole performance with the Notron, or does it have to be in between a sequencer and some devices......I want to buy one, but I'm not sure its worth the money to me at this point in time......someone convince me otherwise!!!!!! Gel-Sol --- dennis_schissler@hp.com wrote: >Here's their homepage: > >http://frame1.cerbernet.co.uk/notron/ > >There's not much other info out there about it. I'm still a newbie to >Notron but if you have any questions feel free to ask. Teklab also >has a Notron mailing list but it is pretty much inactive. > >I've found it a great tool for writing cool lines on the Virus - I'll >have a track real soon that makes use of both. > >-Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgenius > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Re: Virus B price >Author: Non-HP-ShawnClear (ShawnClear@aol.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 >Date: 1/4/00 11:30 AM > > >hi, > >What is the Notron homepage (url) or sites with other info on it? > >Thanks, > >Shawn >shawnclear@aol.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-665-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 4 23:23:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:25:44 -0800 Subject: Re: Virus B price --> Notron info To: gelsol@yahoo.com Cc: access-list@teklab.com I'm not sure if I should take this topic offline or not but here's the dirt as I know it (remember I'm still a bit of a newbie with it): I don't think the Notron was really meant to sequence an entire track from beginning to finish. You *can* chain patterns together but I'm not sure that you're going to want to do an entire track this way. I've found that I will generally develop the line or pattern in Notron then dump it to my software sequencer (Cakewalk for midi to digital - then to ACID for final assembly). I think the power and intention of Notron is more for taking patterns and then as that TV chef says: "kicking them up a notch" by giving you many tools to tweak them and entirely mess them up so that you end up with something entirely different and hopefully better in the end. It's more of a creative tool to encourage those precious "accidents" where you develop a great lead or arpeggio that was never intended. I hear that it also was developed for doing live work though I don't use it that way. Maybe some more experienced users will feel differently. It is a lot of bones for what it does (I paid ~US$1200) but in the end I think it is a powerful tool - especially with the Virus. Hope that helps, Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius P.S. It is definitely the most beautiful looking piece of equipment I own! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Virus B price Author: Non-HP-gelsol (gelsol@yahoo.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 1/4/00 1:42 PM Is it possible to sequence a whole performance with the Notron, or does it have to be in between a sequencer and some devices......I want to buy one, but I'm not sure its worth the money to me at this point in time......someone convince me otherwise!!!!!! Gel-Sol --- dennis_schissler@hp.com wrote: >Here's their homepage: > >http://frame1.cerbernet.co.uk/notron/ > >There's not much other info out there about it. I'm still a newbie to >Notron but if you have any questions feel free to ask. Teklab also >has a Notron mailing list but it is pretty much inactive. > >I've found it a great tool for writing cool lines on the Virus - I'll >have a track real soon that makes use of both. > >-Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgenius > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Re: Virus B price >Author: Non-HP-ShawnClear (ShawnClear@aol.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 >Date: 1/4/00 11:30 AM > > >hi, > >What is the Notron homepage (url) or sites with other info on it? > >Thanks, > >Shawn >shawnclear@aol.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-666-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 5 03:21:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SLAK305@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:23:43 EST Subject: update To: access-list@teklab.com hi just wondering what setting i have to get my virus on to download the the new update 3.0 i have the virus b do i have to set it on anything special to receive the download i downloaded the zip file i click on it and it brings up my windows player and then it plays it but i dont hear anything any help would be appreciated thanksX-From_: access-list-return-667-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 5 03:48:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 03:50:29 +0100 From: Kanou Reply-To: Kanou X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: re: update yep man cannot believe what you wrote so... cannot help you... no... never... nobody. try playing with accoustic instruments... think it s much better. kanouX-From_: access-list-return-668-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 5 03:52:37 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SLAK305@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:36 EST Subject: Re: update To: access-list@teklab.com, Kanou@gmx.net what do u mean im serious i dont know what to set the virus on to receive the download why does this sound strange stick to accoustics? u probably dance to half my tracks in the clubs that u go to thats if u go out . if u got something smart to say dont say anything u assholeX-From_: access-list-return-669-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 5 09:30:48 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:31:21 +0100 From: Michael Lauer Reply-To: Michael Lauer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: update >hi just wondering what setting i have to get my virus on to download the the >new update 3.0 i have the virus b do i have to set it on anything special to >receive the download i downloaded the zip file i click on it and it brings >up my windows player and then it plays it but i dont hear anything any help >would be appreciated thanks if you've got V2.52, just play the file to the MIDI out the VIRUS is connected to. Otherwise, check the section "SYSTEM UPDATE LOAD PROCEDURE" @ http://www.access-music.de/files/os/system-2-52/read_252.txt -- Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de --------------------------------------------------------- How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?X-From_: access-list-return-670-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 5 11:52:59 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Michel" To: Subject: update Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:53:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Load the midi file in cubase.... Download a demo of cubase from www.steinberg.com X-From_: access-list-return-671-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 5 13:17:59 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 13:17:07 +0100 From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: update X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net the reason of hearing nothing is simple.the os update is a summary of sysex data in hexadezimal format.there are no note events or things like that.play the file in logic or cubase or any other sequencer except cakewalk.sent it to the midi out the virus is connected to. another very good idea is to read the readme file which comes with every new update.there you can find a detailed procedure for updating the virus ! bye jens SLAK305@aol.com schrieb: > >hi just wondering what setting i have to get my virus on to download the the new update 3.0 i have the virus b do i have to set it on anything special to receive the download i downloaded the zip file i click on it and it brings up my windows player and then it plays it but i dont hear anything any help would be appreciated thanksX-From_: access-list-return-672-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 6 09:42:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:41:42 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: amnoti To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Wanted : Virus A If anyone in Germany is thinking of upgrading to a VirusB and selling his/her VirusA, please email me. ___________________________________________________________ http://www.firemail.de - Ihr Briefkasten im Web. Einfach, schnell, sicher. Neu! Jetzt auch mit kostenlosem Fax-Empfang und Voicemail!X-From_: access-list-return-674-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 6 13:34:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: h0444wfy@popserv.rz.hu-berlin.de Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:21:26 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: michael wolf Subject: virus a os update? (Re: KnobDisplay-Value - Bug) >Will be fixed next OS! speaking of os updates: will that final update for the virus a, that you guys announced back in the last century and that weve all been (more or less patienly) waiting for since then, ever come? micX-From_: access-list-return-676-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 7 12:12:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: NUTRON - What price? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:10:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 I know this is off-topic, but could anyone out there give me an estimate on one of these machines? ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-677-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 7 12:13:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Doing an update of VER3 using Cakewalk 8/9 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:14:52 +0200 X-Priority: 1 I have tested this and it works 100%. The trick is to set the TEMPO to 60. Once a dump has been extracted (CPW9) from the VIRUS-b as one BIG SYX BANK, the update can be sent using the standard SYSEX manager of CPW. If anyone is interested in getting one LARGE sysex bank for the VIRUS-b V3 O/S, I will gladly post it on my webpage. Thanks cyber7 ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-678-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 7 18:34:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: , "access-list" Subject: Re: Virus B price kint Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:35:53 -0800 X-Priority: 3 to "your name" " email@domain.com ", Why do you keep your email address and name anonymous if you want an answer to the offtopic question of who somone else might be? There is something peculiar about that. To answer your question while I'm here. I'm just another guy with a virus, and take no shame in following my gut instincts. And that is why I tend to be somewhat philosophical at times, and call 'em as I see 'em. I study 'self' alot, and share my findings... not concerned if others adopt my beliefs or findings of 'self', as I'm not assuming that I'm 'right' and others are 'wrong'... everything is relative imho. Keep off topic questions as private emails, this list is for Virus synth topics only. Kintama somewhat fitting to this... "In the absence of information, the worst is assumed." -PM -----Original Message----- From: Your Name To: access-list@teklab.com ; kintama@jps.net Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Virus B price kint >who is He?? > X-From_: access-list-return-679-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 7 19:03:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: Virus B price kint Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:05:03 -0800 X-Priority: 3 I was bounced back this message... perhaps MajorDomo is screwy? And this guy was emailed from majordomo and he's wondering where the hell it came from? When I sent the first message reguarding Virus Price I also recieved this bounce message from majordomo so maybe the confusion lies there? My apologies to "your name", as I think based on the bounce message that your from Sony and majordomo has filtered your real name and address, because in the bounce message it lists your email in full (assuming that is yours). Jay Somthing up with the list server? kintama -----Original Message----- From: Kintama To: email@domain.com ; access-list Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Virus B price kint >to "your name" " email@domain.com ", > >Why do you keep your email address and name anonymous if you want an answer to the offtopic question of who somone else might be? There is something peculiar about that. > >To answer your question while I'm here. I'm just another guy with a virus, and take no shame in following my gut instincts. And that is why I tend to be somewhat philosophical at times, and call 'em as I see 'em. I study 'self' alot, and share my findings... not concerned if others adopt my beliefs or findings of 'self', as I'm not assuming that I'm 'right' and others are 'wrong'... everything is relative imho. > >Keep off topic questions as private emails, this list is for Virus synth topics only. > >Kintama >somewhat fitting to this... "In the absence of information, the worst is assumed." -PM > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Your Name >To: access-list@teklab.com ; kintama@jps.net >Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Virus B price kint > > >>who is He?? >> >> > X-From_: access-list-return-680-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 07:00:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:07:02 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: rack ears I have some questions about the virus rack ears. Does the wood ends come off to put the rack ears on? If yes, how? I can't seem to get mine off(though I'm afraid to try very hard in case they aren't supposed to come off). Also, has anyone made their own virus rack ears? I am going to try to make mine but first I need to figure out how to get the wood ends off. Thanks in advance!X-From_: access-list-return-682-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 07:56:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:58:45 EST Subject: Re: rack ears To: access-list@teklab.com hey, << The Virus looks very nice racked up =) I think the ears cost me about $28. >> its also a bitch. i got rid of mine and got the b. the bottom is slanted, taking up extra rack room. the top has the outputs straight up taking another rack space and maybe a half. at least we have the option. end of virus rant...nord time. i am pissed that the nord rack 2 is like this also. why is it like this if its a "nord rack"? I understand people want to use it as a tabletop, but if that's the case, why didn't they build an enclosure like waldorf gear? reason- cost. clavia are cheap. similar to how access just took the virus and mounted it on a keyboard (could have spread the knobs out some), clavia did the same thing with the nord lead and rack. that aside, i really do like the new knobs on the b and the nord is very high construction quality (moreso than the other va's imo). only prob with the b's, and it may only be mine, both the wooden ends and lcd seem loose. oh well, they're not moving. over and out, shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-681-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 07:49:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "iinsectt" To: Subject: Re: rack ears Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 00:12:25 -0700 X-Priority: 3 The wood ends do not come off alone... you have to remove the whole back cover wich is attached to the wood ends. The rack ears that I bought for the Virus is a solid peice also, and fits in place of the peice removed. The Virus looks very nice racked up =) I think the ears cost me about $28. Good luck !!! >I have some questions about the virus rack ears. > >Does the wood ends come off to put the rack ears on? If yes, how? I can't seem to get mine off(though I'm afraid to try very hard in case they aren't supposed to come off). > >Also, has anyone made their own virus rack ears? I am going to try to make mine but first I need to figure out how to get the wood ends off. > >Thanks in advance! > > > > X-From_: access-list-return-683-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 09:13:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:16:30 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: ShawnClear@aol.com cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: rack ears Speaking of racking the Virus, let's say I want to put a Virus in a drawer in a rack. How many spaces is the Virus sitting in desktop position? Probably two or three? Obviously I don't have my Virus yet... MohoX-From_: access-list-return-684-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 16:25:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:32:48 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: rack ears On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, iinsectt wrote: >The wood ends do not come off alone... you have to remove the whole back cover wich is attached to the wood ends. The rack ears that I bought for the Virus is a solid peice also, and fits in place of the peice removed. The Virus looks very nice racked up =) I think the ears cost me about $28. > >Good luck !!! > > Hmm... I kind of suspected this. I suppose this would cause me to remove the "do not remove this sticker" sticker that says it will break the warranty? So is the rack kit something like this: ears ears | | \-----------------------------------/ Basically, normal rack ears with a big piece that runs across the back? I was hoping(at least wondering) if I could just buy some of those 4 space generic rack-ears and stick on the virus. I'm not really put off by the $30 for the virus ears, I'm just more in a hurry to get the thing racked. X-From_: access-list-return-685-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 19:34:19 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:36:41 EST Subject: Re: rack ears To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << Speaking of racking the Virus, let's say I want to put a Virus in a drawer in a rack. How many spaces is the Virus sitting in desktop position? Probably two or three? Obviously I don't have my Virus yet... >> I've been through this too. It won't fit in my standard skb 12 space. Right now its just being used as a tabletop module. I have 2 Raxxess SLE-1. A Novation is on one and the Virus was on the other until I ran out of rack room and took it out. The Virus won't slide into the drawer it just hangs over the stuff underneath it. The Nova will because its very small. Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-686-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 19:36:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:39:11 EST Subject: Re: rack ears To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << Hmm... I kind of suspected this. I suppose this would cause me to remove the "do not remove this sticker" sticker that says it will break the warranty? >> Didn't Christoph already state that racking the Virus won't invalidate the warranty? Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-687-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 22:53:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: rack ears On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: >I've been through this too. It won't fit in my standard skb 12 space. Right now its just being used as a tabletop module. I have 2 Raxxess SLE-1. A Novation is on one and the Virus was on the other until I ran out of rack room and took it out. The Virus won't slide into the drawer it just hangs over the stuff underneath it. The Nova will because its very small. Right, but how TALL is the virus when sitting on a desktop? 2 rack spaces? 3? MohoX-From_: access-list-return-688-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 8 22:58:39 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:01:12 EST Subject: Re: rack ears To: access-list@teklab.com << Right, but how TALL is the virus when sitting on a desktop? 2 rack spaces? 3? > bout 4 inc cables and slanted bottom.X-From_: access-list-return-692-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 18:16:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: dimi@mail.dds.nl Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:15:44 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Dimitri Sijperda Subject: Re: rack ears Hello! I like my Virus racked. The wooden front tabletop is more esthetic, but I'll never damage those beautifull wooden sides if I don't use them. :-) I strongly suggest to use -1U extra space for a 1U plate. -Hooked cables. -Permanent cables with e.g. a patch-unit so you won't have to change them -not putting the virus either horizontal or vertical. Dimitri.X-From_: access-list-return-689-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 01:08:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:11:39 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Virus B dimensions... Could somebody post the dimensions of the Virus B? MohoX-From_: access-list-return-690-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 07:41:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:43:45 EST Subject: Re: Virus B Dimensions To: access-list@teklab.com hi, The Virus is shaped funny, but here are the dimensions for the B at their highest points: 18 1/4 x 7 x 2 1/2 inches Kind regards, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-691-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 17:33:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:28:39 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Re: Virus B dimensions... At 19:11 09.01.00 -0500, you wrote: >Could somebody post the dimensions of the Virus B? The Virus b's dimensions in mm: 470 * 180 * 54 Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-693-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 18:42:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:44:21 EST Subject: Tubee.mid Patch TB-30H3 To: access-list@teklab.com hi, Who made the patch Tubee.mid otherwise known as TB-30H3? Did Excel make it? It sounds the same as the one used in his song "New Machines." Its an awesome patch- I'm sure to use it in one of my next recordings which should be finished anyday now. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-694-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 18:58:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:01:12 EST Subject: Re: Tubee.mid Patch TB-30H3 To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << Did Excel make it? >> Sorry that would be EXEL. Enclosed is the patch for future reference. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com Content-Type: audio/x-midi; name="Tubee.mid" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Tubee.mid" Attachment converted: f2000:Tubee.mid 3 (????/----) (000055F0)X-From_: access-list-return-695-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 19:07:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:09:44 EST Subject: Re: Tubee patch To: access-list@teklab.com hey, Sorry- that would be EXEL. BTW I tried to include the patch so others could hear what I was talking about but the list will no longer allow any attachments to be posted. This is complete crap if you ask me! If its not a .mid or .mp3, .jpg or whatever than don't download it, but whoever took control of the server at IT should allow us to post attachments. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-696-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 19:16:14 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:19:08 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Tubee patch chill dude ... your original message came thru to me with the .mid attachment... you probably just got some lame-o message from somebody's mail server whose account had been deleted. rock it zs >BTW I tried to include the patch so others could hear what I was talking about but the list will no longer allow any attachments to be posted. This is complete crap if you ask me! If its not a .mid or .mp3, .jpg or whatever than don't download it, but whoever took control of the server at IT should allow us to post attachments.X-From_: access-list-return-697-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 19:19:12 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:20:47 EST Subject: Re: Tubee patch To: access-list@teklab.com hey, << chill dude ... your original message came thru to me with the .mid attachment... you probably just got some lame-o message from somebody's mail server whose account had been deleted. >> yeah i bet you're right...didn't look close enough. thanksX-From_: access-list-return-698-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 19:26:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "iinsectt" To: Subject: Re: Tubee patch Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:49:04 -0700 X-Priority: 3 I received the Tubee .mid patch from your mail........ take a deep breath and relax =) >BTW I tried to include the patch so others could hear what I was talking about but the list will no longer allow any attachments to be posted. This is >complete crap if you ask me! If its not a .mid or .mp3, .jpg or whatever than >don't download it, but whoever took control of the server at IT should allow >us to post attachments. > >Thanks, > >Shawn >shawnclear@aol.com X-From_: access-list-return-699-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 21:14:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:16:45 EST Subject: Re: Virus B dimensions... To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 1/10/00 10:36:58 AM, jh@tsi-gmbh.de writes: >The Virus b's dimensions in mm: > >470 * 180 * 54 Funny, it sounds so much larger!!!!!! -Marshall (who upgraded from a Virus A, got his "B" today, and was left utterly speechless!!!!)X-From_: access-list-return-700-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 10 21:36:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:38:48 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Tubee.mid Patch TB-30H3 X-Originating-IP: 216.209.45.199 This patch was my creation man. I hope you're enjoying it. Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: ShawnClear@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: January 10, 2000 5:44:21 PM GMT Subject: Tubee.mid Patch TB-30H3 hi, Who made the patch Tubee.mid otherwise known as TB-30H3? Did Excel make it? It sounds the same as the one used in his song "New Machines." Its an awesome patch- I'm sure to use it in one of my next recordings which should be finished anyday now. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-701-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 11 09:52:48 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Question wrt OS3.01... Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:55:57 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Hi, I am sorry to do this, but after looking at some of the bugs that is still lurking in OS3, could someone tell me if there is an estimate when OS301 (Or something like that) could be expected? ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-702-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 11 10:02:56 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Cakewalk question... Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:06:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Hi, I got Cakewalk to work 100% with the dumping of the OS. The procedure is quite easy, load the OS into CPW, Start your VIRUS-b with the OS UPDATE command, set the speed of CPW to 60bpm and play the file back. It does take a bit longer than 5min to update the OS, but it works 100%. Remember to STORE the OS once completed. As a PS: Cakewalk now excepts LARGE DUMPS. If you want, I can create a single 500k file (syx) and make it available on my website for downloading to the VIRUS-b. It works 100% and is far quicker than sending SYX using midi... Now, I have a question that I have asked Cakewalk support (support@cakewalk.com) for the last 2 years, and every time my message gets ignored. HOW DO YOU SEND MTC TO ALL YOUR MIDI PORTS. Easy question, but it looks like I have the CPW dudes stumped... I am thinking of dumping CPW for either LOGIC or CUBASE, although I would not like to. It is going to cost me as much to crossgrade to the 2 sequencers as it will cost to upgrade to CPW9. Thanks again for the MOST DELICIOUS ANALOGUE MACHINE ever created. It was the MOST EXCELENT and PERFECT Xmas gift from my wife. She loves me so!!! ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-703-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 11 19:33:53 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:36:16 EST Subject: Re: Cakewalk question... To: access-list@teklab.com which version of cakewalk do you use???X-From_: access-list-return-704-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 02:32:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:52:15 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Tricks? Saturating noise: osc bal -> 1, osc 1 shape -> square, osc 1 pw -> 100%... boom. osc vol can saturate noise without any oscillators getting in the way. Are there any other wierd tricks like this? Bugs: These happen to anyone else? (OS 3) When I turn the lfo to "wave" and start selecting waves, the patch no longer makes sound. (or the patch gets very soft - I've had both happen) even if you change back to the normal lfo shapes. multimode->edit->selectnumber: when you cycle through the patches really fast (user patches... that have delay) it seems the delay "sticks"... you hear it even if it's zero in the effects menu.X-From_: access-list-return-705-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 04:29:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Tricks? Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:29:45 +1300 X-Priority: 3 >When I turn the lfo to "wave" and start selecting waves, the patch no longer makes sound. 'Compare' function should restore the sound. I think this is quite generally applicable when the sound engine has got confused. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-706-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 04:58:45 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: "Access List" Subject: Jay - dead subscriber Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:00:07 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Jay, can you please unsubscribe this person? dmoxon@station.sony.com >The user you mailed to is no longer part of Sony Online Entertainment: >****************** ORIGINAL MESSAGE ************************** >>From access-list-return-705-dmoxon=station.sony.com@teklab.com Tue Jan 11 22:33:42 2000 >Received: from teklab.com (w168.z206111199.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [206.111.199.168]) >by monitor.station.sony.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04786 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:33:41 -0500 (EST)X-From_: access-list-return-707-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 06:00:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: TomShear@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:00:42 EST Subject: Re: Tricks? To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 1/12/00 1:36:47 AM, you wrote: >When I turn the lfo to "wave" and start selecting waves, the patch no longer makes sound. (or the patch gets very soft - I've had both happen) even if you change back to the normal lfo shapes. Yep, I get this one all the time... can restore sound by selecting another patch, or simply hitting multimode and going back into single again... definitely a bug tho...X-From_: access-list-return-708-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 08:53:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Tubee... Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:56:46 +0200 X-Priority: 3 What a wicked, wicked sound. I've pushed this thru my JP8080 (to use the arppeggiator) into the VIRUS and brother, this sound kicks arse. My question is this, how did Shawn get onto this patch in the first place? I have looked all over the net (Access's page and k9's) and could not find the original. Is there some kind of 'hidden' archive that I don't know about? If so, please could yo give me access :)) ps - The moment you add VIRUS-b FX onto the sound, it is like it becomes alive. I would like to advise anyone out there (This is actually a hint for my friend 'I'm-a-tottie'.) who can get their grubbies onto the VIRUS-b, to get it. Even if it means a $140 more, you pay for the FX, man... If you trade it off on even the top of the range FX units, you will still not get that CLEAN FX sound the VIRUS-b gives you. I suppose it is because all the FX are created using algorithms? Just my 10c ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-709-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 12:55:26 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:48:52 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Jay - dead subscriber Jay: please respond to emails, I have many people who have complained to me that they are unable to subscribe, resubscribe or post to the list. they say they have contacted you but that you haven't responded. One of them (at least) is part of Access, someone who's job it is to listen to the list and pass on the ideas to Access, so this is a great chance and an important member of the list. Please try to help these people or find some way how they can join the list. thank you! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-710-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 14:00:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:03:24 +0200 (EET) From: Janne Kaipainen To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Tricks? (Bugs) On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 cerberus@moral.decay.net wrote: >multimode->edit->selectnumber: when you cycle through the patches really fast (user patches... that have delay) it seems the delay "sticks"... you hear it even if it's zero in the effects menu. Seen (or heard) that one, too. It can be fixed by turning the delay send to something else than 0 and then back to 0. But, a bug it is, I'd presume. Regards, .janneX-From_: access-list-return-711-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 14:09:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:11:31 EST Subject: Re: Tubee... To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << My question is this, how did Shawn get onto this patch in the first place? >> Glad you agree about the sound. When sequenced, it just screams! Believe it or not, it was uploaded to the list. I forget who already ;-), but the author admitted his creation a few days ago on the list. I've dloaded about 10 patches off this list, ranging from Tubee to the vocoder similar to the one used by the Beastie Boys on Intergalactic. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-712-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 14:14:19 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Seeing that we are on bugs and stuff... Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:17:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Have you noticed on VIRUS-b, Sometimes if you change the DELAY FX amount, you do not hear a difference? (In MULTI mode) I then have to manually close the FX (Make it 0) and then open it again? Thanks cyber7 (Aubrey) http://go.to/cyber7 - As from tomorrow, the new CAKEWALK pannel, the complete VER3 OS as a single SYX dump and some patches will be made available.X-From_: access-list-return-713-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 16:00:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:03:53 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Seeing that we are on bugs and stuff... On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >Have you noticed on VIRUS-b, > >Sometimes if you change the DELAY FX amount, you do not hear a difference? (In MULTI mode) I then have to manually close the FX (Make it 0) and then open it again? > I've got another one(virus b/3.0) When setting LFO2's shape to wave(defaults to S/H) and then using the parameter knob to select a different wave. It seems to act as a osc. volume knob(other other knob which affects the volume of the patch). As soon as I turn it to S/G the volume drops and then slowly rises as I move further up to wave 64. I've found no way around this. Can anyone else duplicate? This only seems to happen on LFO2. -Jack ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.phpwebhosting.com/ cheap, fast webhosting with php, mysql - $9.95/month -----------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-714-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 16:26:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Tricks? On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 cerberus@moral.decay.net wrote: >Bugs: These happen to anyone else? (OS 3) > >When I turn the lfo to "wave" and start selecting waves, the patch no longer makes sound. (or the patch gets very soft - I've had both happen) even if you change back to the normal lfo shapes. > me too! i just sent something off about this(I guess I should have read all my incoming mail first!).X-From_: access-list-return-715-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 16:29:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:31:16 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Seeing that we are on bugs and stuff... And since we all seem in the mood for bug reports, let's have another one. Virus kb OS 3.0: When sequencing, I sometimes get a stuck note... more like the same tone every time (whatever sound I use) that doesn't go away until I switch the Virus off and on again. Here's how I always have the bug: Sequencing in Logic: some note and filtermovements recorded, the song is still playing while I use the key commands to scroll quickly (8 bars forward or backward every time you hit the key): now I often (mostly) get this stuck tone. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-716-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 16:37:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: Valentijn Steenhoudt Subject: Re: Jay - dead subscriber To: access-list@teklab.com Hey, I've got also an annoying problem... A few months ago I couldn't mail to this list anymore so I tried unsubscribing myself but I got a message that I wasn't on the list anyway.. So I subscribied again but now I receive every mail from the access-list double which is very annoying... I mailed to Jay twice but never got a reply... :(( I hope someone can help me with this. Greetings, Valentijn --- "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: > >Jay: > >please respond to emails, I have many people who have complained to >me that they are unable to subscribe, resubscribe or post to the >list. they say they have contacted you but that you haven't responded. > >One of them (at least) is part of Access, someone who's job it is to >listen to the list and pass on the ideas to Access, so this is a >great chance and an important member of the list. Please try to help >these people or find some way how they can join the list. > >thank you! > >think different! > >Canine > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >canine@waf80.de >good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 >http://www.waf80.de/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-717-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 17:20:48 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:48:35 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Seeing that we are on bugs and stuff... sounds like a note hangs , did you try it with the panic function (press both transpose knobs) Oli Joeri Vankeirsbilck schrieb: >And since we all seem in the mood for bug reports, let's have another one. Virus kb OS 3.0: > >When sequencing, I sometimes get a stuck note... more like the same tone every time (whatever sound I use) that doesn't go away until I switch the Virus off and on again. > >Here's how I always have the bug: >Sequencing in Logic: some note and filtermovements recorded, the song is still playing while I use the key commands to scroll quickly (8 bars forward or backward every time you hit the key): now I often (mostly) get this stuck tone. > >Ciao, >Joeri >-- >Joeri Vankeirsbilck >joeri@belway.com > >List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > >http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-718-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 18:24:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:27:18 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Tubee... X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.61 Once again, Tubee is my creation, and I'm glad you like it. My name's Peter Hasek and I live in Toronto Canada. Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: ShawnClear@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: January 12, 2000 1:11:31 PM GMT Subject: Re: Tubee... hi, << My question is this, how did Shawn get onto this patch in the first place? >> Glad you agree about the sound. When sequenced, it just screams! Believe it or not, it was uploaded to the list. I forget who already ;-), but the author admitted his creation a few days ago on the list. I've dloaded about 10 patches off this list, ranging from Tubee to the vocoder similar to the one used by the Beastie Boys on Intergalactic. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-722-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 19:09:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:10:18 EST Subject: Re: Tubee... To: access-list@teklab.com hi Peter, I remembered your email address but not your name ;-) Do you have any patches similar to Tubee that you could upload to this list? Not necessarily the same sound but the same type of modulation... Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-723-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 21:40:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:42:06 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Re: Tubee... X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.61 I'll go through my banks and see if there's anything of interest. I do have have a version of the Tubee that is setup for use with a wind controller though (modulation set to BC) Peaceout Peter ------Original Message------ From: ShawnClear@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: January 12, 2000 6:10:18 PM GMT Subject: Re: Tubee... hi Peter, I remembered your email address but not your name ;-) Do you have any patches similar to Tubee that you could upload to this list? Not necessarily the same sound but the same type of modulation... Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.com ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-724-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 21:39:37 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:52:05 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: Jay - dead subscriber Guys - make sure you're following the instructions on this page: http://www.teklab.com/Internet.html I'll look into the personal mail sent to me about the access-list in a day or so. j. At 07:35 AM 01/12/2000 -0800, you wrote: Hey, I've got also an annoying problem... A few months ago I couldn't mail to this list anymore so I tried unsubscribing myself but I got a message that I wasn't on the list anyway.. So I subscribied again but now I receive every mail from the access-list double which is very annoying... I mailed to Jay twice but never got a reply... :(( I hope someone can help me with this. Greetings, Valentijn --- "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: > >Jay: > >please respond to emails, I have many people who have complained to >me that they are unable to subscribe, resubscribe or post to the >list. they say they have contacted you but that you haven't responded. > >One of them (at least) is part of Access, someone who's job it is to >listen to the list and pass on the ideas to Access, so this is a >great chance and an important member of the list. Please try to help >these people or find some way how they can join the list. > >thank you! > >think different! > >Canine > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >canine@waf80.de >good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 >http://www.waf80.de/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html X-From_: access-list-return-726-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 21:41:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:45:11 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: HW architecture Hi, >I don't yet own a Virus, however I'm seriously considering buying a Virus Keyboard. >I'm also looking at the Waldorf Q. I'm curious about the hardware architecture of the Virus v.s. that of the Q, like which processors do they use and how many of them each have and so forth. Anyone have any ideas? I know the specs, but I won't tell them because of the following reason: On paper, the Q looks muuuuuch better than the Virus, I even prefer the look of the blue Waldorf Q a tiny little more than the look of the Virus.... but then there's the sound... and that's where the Virus beats the hell out of the Q! We've done some big tests with lots of virtual analogs and all of us concluded the same thing: the Q doesn't have "balls". :-))) So, don't buy on the specs: that's a bad thing to do. LISTEN to the machines you're about to buy and THEN make your decision. After hearing both, you won't have any difficulty in making up your mind! Let me then congratulate you on your Virus Keyboard! :-) And by the way: the Virus is a machine that has proven itself, whereas the OS of the Q is still at 1.1x or so... still concentrating on bug fixes instead of adding new features (which is exactly what the Access team is good at!). One thing is better on the Q: the amount of knobs... but that's it. BTW, I also have a Virus kb, so don't hesitate to mail me privately for questions. I can recommend this synth to everyone! I love it. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-727-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 21:49:53 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:51:39 +0100 From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: HW architecture X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net Petter Trysell schrieb: > >Hi! > >I'm new to the list. I don't yet own a Virus, however I'm seriously considering buying a Virus Keyboard. >I'm also looking at the Waldorf Q. I'm curious about the hardware architecture of the Virus v.s. that of the Q, like which processors do they use and how many of them each have and so forth. Anyone have any ideas? > >Thx > >/Petter Hi Petter ! The Virus use only one Motorola DSP.The Q needs 4 DSP`s as far as I know. But it«s more a question of programming a DSP, not the only the number installed.And ,the Virus is very well programmed! Does the Q sounds better with 4 DSP«s ? It«s mostly a question of your personal taste and your budget! I think the virus sounds as good as or even better than the more expensive Q. Check both and buy the maschine you like more.(Virus b :-) ) stay fresh jens W.X-From_: access-list-return-728-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 22:00:53 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: HW architecture Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:04:41 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Don't let the Waldorf List hear you say this. They would have you burned at the steak. Seriously though, Q owners defend that beast like it is the BE ALL - END ALL of the VAs. They are constantly dissing the Virus in favor of the Q. I have had to hold my fingers from many a reply... BTW: I Funk'n LOVE the Virus B... Rick Waldorf Q a tiny little more than the look of the >Virus.... but then there's the sound... and that's where the Virus beats the hell out of the Q! X-From_: access-list-return-729-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 22:21:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Hans Petter Andersen" To: , "Rick Reyes" Subject: Re: HW architecture Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:18:57 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Not all Q owners defend their Q like that. I've got a Q since it came out, and I still have it. I'm very disapointed. The Q is indeed a good synth with lots of specifications. But considering the bucks it's worth, and all the specifications, you really wanna use it to it's full capability and more. It's not a synth you wanna have around just for some specific sounds. Well, I think the sentence that was said in an earlier mail on this thread is very true: The Q doesn't have balls. It doesn't! I think you're better off with a Virus, but don't listen to me, listen to your ears (go try them out, because alot of people disagrees with me). Let me just add: some people just look at the specifications of a synth and (it seems like) they give a slight damn about how it sounds. Music is all about sound, atleast to me it is, and in the end, it's the sound that counts. Maybe that's why I still love the old MiniMoog and Jupiter-8 more than anything? Regards, Hans Petter Andersen. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Reyes To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: Re: HW architecture >Don't let the Waldorf List hear you say this. They would have you burned at >the steak. Seriously though, Q owners defend that beast like it is the BE ALL - END ALL of the VAs. They are constantly dissing the Virus in favor of >the Q. I have had to hold my fingers from many a reply... > >BTW: I Funk'n LOVE the Virus B... > >Rick > >Waldorf Q a tiny little more than the look of the >>Virus.... but then there's the sound... and that's where the Virus beats the hell out of the Q! >> > X-From_: access-list-return-725-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 21:09:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Petter Trysell" To: Subject: HW architecture Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:27:42 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi! I'm new to the list. I don't yet own a Virus, however I'm seriously considering buying a Virus Keyboard. I'm also looking at the Waldorf Q. I'm curious about the hardware architecture of the Virus v.s. that of the Q, like which processors do they use and how many of them each have and so forth. Anyone have any ideas? Thx /PetterX-From_: access-list-return-730-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 22:54:04 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: mathias@cstone.net (Mathias Tornqvist) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:56:55 -0500 From: Mathias Tornqvist X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Looking for Virus B Hello Virus List! I've been lurking until now, but within a few more weeks I can finally afford a Virus B (actually, as I type this I'm locked up in a hotelroom doing a flu study, to raise the money.) I don't really expect it, but if anybody is interested in selling theirs, I'm certainly interested. I could pay $1000 - even though I know it can be found new for $150 or so more than that, I also hope to be able to afford a cheap controller keyboard. So if you're upgrading to a KB, need cash fast, or selling for some other strange reason - or know anyone who is - please email. I hope to be participating in the discussions soon. Thanks, MathiasX-From_: access-list-return-731-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 12 22:55:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Petter Trysell" To: , "Rick Reyes" Subject: Re: HW architecture Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:12:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi! I think the Virus b currently sounds far better than the Q does. But since Virus DSP seems to be almost 100% utlilized (which of course also is a good thing) since polyphony decreases when you use everything at max, you might not expect any future major upgrades (not like the synth doesn't have enough features now), or? I think i'll probably go with a Virus Keyboard anyway, even if the Q in theory have more potential. =] I was just curious how big the difference in theoritical performance was. /PetterX-From_: access-list-return-752-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 20:00:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@mail.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:52:19 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Jay - dead subscriber At 10:52 AM -0800 on 12.01.2000 Jay Vaughan wrote: I'll look into the personal mail sent to me about the access-list in a day or so. Great! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-732-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 03:28:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Marc Adler" To: Subject: Re: Looking for Virus B Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:31:12 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (actually, as I type this I'm locked up in a >hotelroom doing a flu study, to raise the money Damn man, do they intentionally give you the flu? Now this is harcore desire to have a virus! (well two) -MarcX-From_: access-list-return-734-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 04:04:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Craig Woodcroft To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: Looking for Virus B Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:57:10 +1100 I think it's a great idea, but yes it strikes me as very NOW (if ya know what I mean), 'given a virus to get a virus' welcome to 2000 craig -----Original Message----- From: Mathias Tornqvist [mailto:mathias@cstone.net] Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2000 14:03 To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Looking for Virus B Marc Adler wrote: >>(actually, as I type this I'm locked up in a hotelroom doing a flu study, to raise the money) > >Damn man, do they intentionally give you the flu? Now this is harcore desire to have a virus! (well two) > >-Marc Yup, tomorrow they will drip the virus (the bad kind) in my nose, and they won't let me leave the room for a week. Luckily they have also given me their new wonder drug, and even if I get the placebo, the flu will be attentuated. My wife has done it twice, and didn't get sick either time. And what the heck, they're paying me enough to get a virus and have money left (for bills...), for watching TV and surfing the web. Unfortunately I couldn't get the Virus (the good kind) before my confinement - it wouldn't be too bad to get locked in with a new wondertoy for a week! Now I feel like I need some real Virus content... hmmm. I will use the Virus as my only sound source, and I'm curious wether anyone is using any novel techniques for creating deum noises, other than the typical swept sinewave/noise combo? MathiasX-From_: access-list-return-733-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 03:59:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: mathias@cstone.net (Mathias Tornqvist) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:02:57 -0500 From: Mathias Tornqvist X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Looking for Virus B Marc Adler wrote: >>(actually, as I type this I'm locked up in a hotelroom doing a flu study, to raise the money) > >Damn man, do they intentionally give you the flu? Now this is harcore desire to have a virus! (well two) > >-Marc Yup, tomorrow they will drip the virus (the bad kind) in my nose, and they won't let me leave the room for a week. Luckily they have also given me their new wonder drug, and even if I get the placebo, the flu will be attentuated. My wife has done it twice, and didn't get sick either time. And what the heck, they're paying me enough to get a virus and have money left (for bills...), for watching TV and surfing the web. Unfortunately I couldn't get the Virus (the good kind) before my confinement - it wouldn't be too bad to get locked in with a new wondertoy for a week! Now I feel like I need some real Virus content... hmmm. I will use the Virus as my only sound source, and I'm curious wether anyone is using any novel techniques for creating deum noises, other than the typical swept sinewave/noise combo? MathiasX-From_: access-list-return-735-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 05:38:41 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Glotox@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:41:40 EST Subject: Re: HW architecture To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 1/12/00 3:45:41 PM, joeri@belway.com writes: >BTW, I also have a Virus kb, so don't hesitate to mail me privately for questions. I can recommend this synth to everyone! I love it. Hello, I'm also new to the list and in similar circumstances than the person who initiated this thred. I was wondering where I can purchase the Virus B Kb here in the US? I have talked to people at Sweetwater (music store) and they tell me that they will get in touch with the distributor in CA they even quoted a price ($1.695) ? The thing is I don't know if I should buy it from them because it seems they have never sold one of these instrumenst and they don't really know if it's being sold here in the states yet. I would like to ask Rouge here in NYC but they are a bit unpredictable in their sale moods, in other words I got a microwave xt from them and they where always changing the price on me... I sort of see them as rouges of the music business. Does anyone know anything about the new OB-12 from Oberheim? It's a VA keyboard with s/pdif. I tried subscribing from canine's site and failed, I subscribed from jay's site and got in. Link problem? Marcos ps: for the first time I am eager to get a VIRUS.X-From_: access-list-return-736-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 05:47:39 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Looking for Virus B So what other toys do you have in the room to play with? Just tv and internet? Moho P.S.-sorry to start this offtopic thread, I was just curious... On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Mathias Tornqvist wrote: >Marc Adler wrote: > >>>(actually, as I type this I'm locked up in a hotelroom doing a flu study, to raise the money) >> >>Damn man, do they intentionally give you the flu? Now this is harcore desire to have a virus! (well two) >> >>-Marc > >Yup, tomorrow they will drip the virus (the bad kind) in my nose, and they won't let me leave the room for a week. Luckily they have also given me their new wonder drug, and even if I get the placebo, the flu will be attentuated. My wife has done it twice, and didn't get sick either time. And what the heck, they're paying me enough to get a virus and have money left (for bills...), for watching TV and surfing the web. Unfortunately I couldn't get the Virus (the good kind) before my confinement - it wouldn't be too bad to get locked in with a new wondertoy for a week! >Now I feel like I need some real Virus content... hmmm. I will use the Virus as my only sound source, and I'm curious wether anyone is using any novel techniques for creating deum noises, other than the typical swept sinewave/noise combo? > >Mathias X-From_: access-list-return-737-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 07:17:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 01:21:10 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: HW architecture I would recommend you go to www.novamusik.com - great prices and they have the keyboard in stock I believe. I just ordered my virus rack ears from them and they seemed very nice on the phone. Sweetwater does not normally carry the virus so I would be careful there! On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 Glotox@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 1/12/00 3:45:41 PM, joeri@belway.com writes: > >>BTW, I also have a Virus kb, so don't hesitate to mail me privately for questions. I can recommend this synth to everyone! I love it. > >Hello, I'm also new to the list and in similar circumstances than the person who initiated this thred. >I was wondering where I can purchase the Virus B Kb here in the US? I have talked to people at Sweetwater (music store) and they tell me that they will get in touch with the distributor in CA they even quoted a price ($1.695) ? > >The thing is I don't know if I should buy it from them because it seems they have never sold one of these instrumenst and they don't really know if it's being sold here in the states yet. > >I would like to ask Rouge here in NYC but they are a bit unpredictable in their sale moods, in other words I got a microwave xt from them and they where always changing the price on me... I sort of see them as rouges of the music business. > >Does anyone know anything about the new OB-12 from Oberheim? It's a VA keyboard with s/pdif. > >I tried subscribing from canine's site and failed, I subscribed from jay's site and got in. >Link problem? > >Marcos > >ps: for the first time I am eager to get a VIRUS. X-From_: access-list-return-738-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 08:56:57 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: Re: HW architecture Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:56:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Hans Petter Andersen |Let me just add: some people just look at the specifications of a synth and |(it seems like) they give a slight damn about how it sounds. Music is all |about sound, atleast to me it is, and in the end, it's the sound that |counts. Maybe that's why I still love the old MiniMoog and Jupiter-8 more |than anything? | |Regards, |Hans Petter Andersen. :) JP-8, MiniMoog, Microwave, Prophet-600, Pulse....they make my heart beat faster.......just like the Virus.......they all make you love synths.......and its music that makes synths alive Rob Ps Which synth would Bach use? | |----- Original Message ----- |From: Rick Reyes |To: |Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 10:04 PM |Subject: Re: HW architecture | | |> Don't let the Waldorf List hear you say this. They would have you burned |at |> the steak. Seriously though, Q owners defend that beast like it is the BE |> ALL - END ALL of the VAs. They are constantly dissing the Virus in favor |of |> the Q. I have had to hold my fingers from many a reply... |> |> BTW: I Funk'n LOVE the Virus B... |> |> Rick |> |> Waldorf Q a tiny little more than the look of the |> >Virus.... but then there's the sound... and that's where the Virus beats |> >the hell out of the Q! |> > |> |> |X-From_: access-list-return-739-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 09:08:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: New Version.... Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:09:37 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com Since a new version is imminent, I don't suppose there's time for a couple of little extras? 1) Show the old AND the new value for the Definable 1&2 knobs 2) Allow the Multi Mode global delay parameters to be optionally taken from a part or at least copyable from a part. Maybe it'd be nice? Paul Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-745-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 16:39:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:47:53 +0200 From: Tom Shear Reply-To: tshear@radius.lenfest.com Organization: Production To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > While we're at it, I'd like to reiterate my wishes for ping-pong delay....individual 3-band EQ per patch in multi's...and noise as a syncable source.... -t/a23 http://www.synthetic.org/a23X-From_: access-list-return-740-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 10:05:52 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: , Subject: Re: New Version.... Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:01:51 +0200 X-Priority: 3 And another that I know will be VERY valuable - especially in a live environment: Give an indication when the ARP is set active on a patch... It would be nice aswell... Aubrey ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Nagle To: Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:09 am Subject: New Version.... >Since a new version is imminent, I don't suppose there's time for a couple of little extras? > >1) Show the old AND the new value for the Definable 1&2 knobs 2) Allow the Multi Mode global delay parameters to be optionally taken from a part or at least copyable from a part. > >Maybe it'd be nice? > >Paul > >Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com >http://www.softroom.co.uk > >Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.uk X-From_: access-list-return-741-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 14:30:59 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Paul Nagle wrote: >Since a new version is imminent, I don't suppose there's time for a couple of little extras? > >1) Show the old AND the new value for the Definable 1&2 knobs 2) Allow the Multi Mode global delay parameters to be optionally taken from a part or at least copyable from a part. > >Maybe it'd be nice? > I've got a few things I'd like to see as well... just suggestions of course, but I think they would be helpfull. Of course, considering my current experiences with the Virus, these features are probably already there and I've just not found them yet :) It would be nice if the multi's could over-ride the ring-modulator(under effect, not under osc.) for sounds and the input source for singles used in the multi. My desired end result would to be able to make a multi with one single going out an aux bus and then into the aux-bus routed ring modulator of another part. Currently, the only way I've found to do this is to save a copy of the single with the ring-mod and aux inputs already setup. This may sound like I'm just trying to save patch locations(i.e. not having two version of a single, one with ring-mod/aux inputs and one without). But my real modivation is just to enable me to easily ring-mod any two internal sounds at will without knowing that if I like the result I'll have to go back and resave a new version of the single which is ring-modulating the other sound. Is there a way to do this currently? I know that multi's save the output destination of each single. But I don't think they save the input or ring-modulation settings. Any help?X-From_: access-list-return-742-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 14:34:14 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:38:17 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >And another that I know will be VERY valuable - especially in a live environment: > >Give an indication when the ARP is set active on a patch... > >It would be nice aswell... > Agreed. I may have already mentioned this, but I would really like it if you could make the "env" buttons in the LFO section assignable. I find that I could easily living with env mode on/off being a software menu since I usually just set it once and then leave it alone. It would be great if for most uses I could have the env buttons set to functions such as ARP on/off or ARP hold(latch). -JackX-From_: access-list-return-743-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 14:44:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:48:48 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... >It would be nice if the multi's could over-ride the ring-modulator(under effect, not under osc.) for sounds and the input source for singles used in the multi. > Note: I know that you can change the setting in a multi. I just can't get them to SAVE with the multi(unless I've saved them in the underlying single). >My desired end result would to be able to make a multi with one single going out an aux bus and then into the aux-bus routed ring modulator of another part. Currently, the only way I've found to do this is to save a copy of the single with the ring-mod and aux inputs already setup. > >This may sound like I'm just trying to save patch locations(i.e. not having two version of a single, one with ring-mod/aux inputs and one without). But my real modivation is just to enable me to easily ring-mod any two internal sounds at will without knowing that if I like the result I'll have to go back and resave a new version of the single which is ring-modulating the other sound. > >Is there a way to do this currently? I know that multi's save the output destination of each single. But I don't think they save the input or ring-modulation settings. > >Any help? > > X-From_: access-list-return-744-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 16:31:46 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: New Version.... Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:36:27 -0600 X-Priority: 3 I would also like to be able to burn the new sound set to banks C and D. I like to leave A and B for my own creations, but I really like the new sound set. Maybe, if everyone agreed, you could switch out the sets in the OS. That way it would dump the new set to the ROM section... Rick >Since a new version is imminent, I don't suppose there's time for a couple of little extras? > >1) Show the old AND the new value for the Definable 1&2 knobs 2) Allow the Multi Mode global delay parameters to be optionally taken from a part or at least copyable from a part. > >Maybe it'd be nice? > >Paul at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-746-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 17:15:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:08:57 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Re: HW architecture At 21:51 12.01.00 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Petter ! >The Virus use only one Motorola DSP.The Q needs 4 DSP`s as far as I know. Just for info: the Q has 3 DSPs inside. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-747-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 17:18:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:22:12 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Tom Shear wrote: >> > >While we're at it, I'd like to reiterate my wishes for ping-pong delay....individual 3-band EQ per patch in multi's...and noise as a syncable source.... -t/a23 > I'd love to have any sort of eq(even one band). I find that (of all things) it's the mid-range I need to boost. I think it may just be my current patch programming style, but all my stuff seems to need more mid-range. Built-in eq would solve a lot of my problems! Some people used to complain about a lack of bottom end but I've not really noticed it. In fact my best 909 patch really is unusable because in head phone it just fucks with your ears too much after more than one hit.X-From_: access-list-return-748-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 17:59:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: From: dgothard@jbsi.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:01:58 -0600 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >It would be great if for most uses I could have the env buttons set to functions such as ARP on/off or ARP hold(latch). >-Jack I Aggree 100% !!!!!!! DonnyX-From_: access-list-return-749-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 19:38:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:41:33 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... Hi, >individual 3-band EQ per patch in multi's Seconded!!! Some sort of EQ, whether it's grafical EQ or parametric EQ doesn't matter, but I'd love some EQ's per patch as well. Parametric EQ is much more powerful, but grafical EQ is easier to use when doing sounddesign and I think it'd be great if we could choose from both. Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-750-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 19:49:13 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Gabe" To: Subject: Re: New Version.... Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:52:17 -0500 X-Priority: 3 I third the motion!! (hmm, does that mean access HAS to do it now? -) )... It would also be great if we could route external signals through the eq effect... >>individual 3-band EQ per patch in multi'sX-From_: access-list-return-751-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 19:57:04 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:00:39 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >Hi, > >>individual 3-band EQ per patch in multi's > >Seconded!!! Some sort of EQ, whether it's grafical EQ or parametric EQ doesn't matter, but I'd love some EQ's per patch as well. Parametric EQ is much more powerful, but grafical EQ is easier to use when doing sounddesign and I think it'd be great if we could choose from both. > I wonder if the new Analog Boost function could be modified to allow a small bit of "EQ-like" functionality. I'm guessing that he Analog Boost function just boosts all the frequencies at some hard-coded frequency. If Access made this frequency a parameter that could be adjusted we could pretty easily have at least some form of EQ. Of course, I would much prefer real, multi-band EQ but it might turn out to be very easy to atleast allow users to vary that frequency at which the analog boost is effective. I may be totally off on how the Analog Boost works, I personally don't use it much at all yet - it doesn't really strike me as adding much to the sound(just a bit of low-end EQ). I don't know why, but I had hoped for something that gave my sounds a bit more of that "raw" analog/electrical sound... hard to explain what I mean. -JackX-From_: access-list-return-753-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 20:26:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:29:37 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... >I wonder if the new Analog Boost function could be modified to allow a small bit of "EQ-like" functionality. I'm guessing that he Analog Boost function just boosts all the frequencies at some hard-coded frequency. If Access made this frequency a parameter that could be adjusted we could pretty easily have at least some form of EQ. Apparently, you haven't used the analog boost feature yet, let me explain: There's a level of boost that can be set and there's a frequency, which makes it indeed like some sort of EQ. Very nice and useful, but don't over-use it. >Of course, I would much prefer real, multi-band EQ but it might turn out to be very easy to atleast allow users to vary that frequency at which the analog boost is effective. Is available in OS 3.0! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-754-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 20:34:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:37:58 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >>I wonder if the new Analog Boost function could be modified to allow a small bit of "EQ-like" functionality. I'm guessing that he Analog Boost function just boosts all the frequencies at some hard-coded frequency. If Access made this frequency a parameter that could be adjusted we could pretty easily have at least some form of EQ. > >Apparently, you haven't used the analog boost feature yet, let me explain: There's a level of boost that can be set and there's a frequency, which makes it indeed like some sort of EQ. Very nice and useful, but don't over-use it. > >>Of course, I would much prefer real, multi-band EQ but it might turn out to be very easy to atleast allow users to vary that frequency at which the analog boost is effective. > >Is available in OS 3.0! > Great! I must be overlooking something. I could have sworn that I only had the boost level control??? I must have been too busy playing with all the other new features of 3.0! I'll have to look at this when I get home tonight.X-From_: access-list-return-755-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 13 21:59:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:01:11 +0100 From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: HW architecture X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net Joerg Huettner schrieb: > >At 21:51 12.01.00 +0100, you wrote: >>Hi Petter ! >>The Virus use only one Motorola DSP.The Q needs 4 DSP`s as far as I know. > >Just for info: the Q has 3 DSPs inside. > Just for info: i was wrong, sorry for that! ;-) stay fresh jens w.X-From_: access-list-return-756-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 02:54:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: New Version.... Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:56:42 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi people, >I'd love to have any sort of eq(even one band). I like the idea of parametric EQ as a filter type. Controllable boost or cut... Controllable width as well... And why not some other filter types while we're at it? All set up to be enveloped, swept, etc. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-757-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 04:16:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: mathias@cstone.net (Mathias Tornqvist) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:19:09 -0500 From: Mathias Tornqvist X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Looking for Virus B Moho Disco wrote: >So what other toys do you have in the room to play with? Just tv and internet? > >Moho > >P.S.-sorry to start this offtopic thread, I was just curious... Well, I could always play with my food... So, no cool techniques for making percussive sounds? Noise FM? Ring Mod? Fast S/H LFO's? Feedbacking chorus FX? And nobody selling a B? Oh well, maybe I should wait for NAMM early February, perhaps Clavia will catch up with the Virus with a Nord Lead 3? I must say I'd sacrifice some parameters to have it all accessed with hardware knobs and switches... While I'm typing, maybe I should plug my website - it is called KnobulatorII, and is a collection of listings of Knobs and Switches of about 50 vintage analog synths. Might come in handy for somebody out there. It's at : www.cstone.net/~mathias/knobulatorII/artofknobs.html MathiasX-From_: access-list-return-758-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 14:43:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:47:17 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: New Version.... >Great! I must be overlooking something. I could have sworn that I only had the boost level control??? I must have been too busy playing with all the other new features of 3.0! I'll have to look at this when I get home tonight. As with many features on the Virus: more controllable features are only activated when you switch the effect "on"! When analog boost is off, you only see 1 thing to modify, but when you switch it on, you find more controllable features. The same for delay and other effects etc... Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-759-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 18:01:13 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:04:46 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: FS: Virus A hey guys I can't take it any more. I need to get a Virus B. SO, I'll sell my Virus A to anyone willing to take it off my hands. Preferably someone in the San Francisco area (I don't like CODs or UPS or anything like that). $900 seems to be the going rate. Mail me privately if you're interested. -zsX-From_: access-list-return-760-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 20:14:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:43:54 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: Filter routing Hey all , I noticed some strange behaviour of the virus in the filter routings : The saturation is positioned between filter 1 and filter 2 so you should never hear it on filter 1 . But if i turn filter balance full to the left (filter 1) it saturates the sound and when i turn it full to the right (2) i hear no saturation . Do i mistake here something or is it a bug ??? I have OS3.0 . Anyone??? OliverX-From_: access-list-return-761-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 20:53:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Fw: Filter routing Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:56:35 -0600 X-Priority: 3 I believe saturation is prior to filter one. It does not feed filter 2... Rick >>Hey all , >> >>I noticed some strange behaviour of the virus in the filter routings : The saturation is >>positioned between filter 1 and filter 2 so you should never hear it on filter 1 . >>But if i turn filter balance full to the left (filter 1) it saturates the sound and when i turn it full >>to the right (2) i hear no saturation . Do i mistake here something or is it a bug ??? >>I have OS3.0 . Anyone??? >> >>Oliver >> X-From_: access-list-return-762-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 20:58:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:52 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: off topic... yammi fs1r i just ordered a yamaha fs1r for $399 and was wondering if anyone had any comments on it. off topic, i know so feel free to ignore me :) i'm just stuck waiting for it to arrive now so i thought i'd see if anyone had any comments on it. for $399 i don't think one can really go wrong, but i guess i will find out...X-From_: access-list-return-764-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 21:08:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:10:57 EST Subject: Re: off topic... yammi fs1r To: access-list@teklab.com i have one and it kicks ass... good luck.X-From_: access-list-return-765-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 21:11:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: off topic... yammi fs1r On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: >i have one and it kicks ass... > >good luck. > Did it come with the OEM version of SoundDiver bundled? I've heard that it might. I basically am looking for a way to make my own FSEQ's...X-From_: access-list-return-763-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 21:00:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:28:29 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fw: Filter routing Yep youre right , i was a bit confused . Thanks Oli Rick Reyes schrieb: >I believe saturation is prior to filter one. It does not feed filter 2... > >Rick > >>>Hey all , >>> >>>I noticed some strange behaviour of the virus in the filter routings : The saturation is >>>positioned between filter 1 and filter 2 so you should never hear it on filter 1 . >>>But if i turn filter balance full to the left (filter 1) it saturates the sound and when i turn it full >>>to the right (2) i hear no saturation . Do i mistake here something or is it a bug ??? >>>I have OS3.0 . Anyone??? >>> >>>Oliver >>> X-From_: access-list-return-766-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 21:38:35 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:42:40 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: fs1r Several people have emailed to ask where I got the FS1R at for $399 so I thought I would forward my reply to the whole list... www.americanmusical.com They advertise it for $499 but they will price match sam ash and guitar center who have it for $399(though I belive they are both sold out!). The only thing they won't do is their payment plan since it is a price match against places that don't have a payment plan. I only mention this because it might slow down your order if you ask for the payment plan(if you order online). They had to call me to make sure I still wanted it without the payment plan. Anyway, if you place an order by 5pm EST it will ship same day with free 2 day shipping. And no I don't work for them... :) -Jack -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.phpwebhosting.com --------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-767-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 14 23:12:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:02:39 +0100 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Arpegiator depressed Hi guys, I really have a serious problem with my Virus A. I can't get my arpeggiator on my Virus send notes out to my sequencer. Notes sound interupted when I put on Arp Send on. First my setup. Unitor 8 mkII, Cubase VST 3.7 R1 (official), Roland E-30 Keyboard, Roland JV-1080, TB303 and Akai VX90. All midi equipment is connected via its separate midi In and Out on the Unitor 8. When I connect my keyboard to the Virus In directly, and put my arp send ON, it works fine. But then of course, I CAN'T playback recorded Virus data (cutoff and all that), and I also hear my Virus all the time. (i have to put the midi volume of or set it to another midichannel or something. This is NOT what I want. What happens when I normally put arp SEND: ON (while arpeggiator is ON), I get a real short tone instead of the whole sound. When I play several notes at one time (like a chord), it sometimes works but Cubase records this as a whole chord instead of loose arpeggiator notes. When I delete the long notes, what's left is one note. I tried all combinations like setting Midi Softthru ON and Panel settings to midi, midi+int. or only internal but I tried it all, nothing works. I also tried several Cubase settings, like filtering channels, use a thru Off channel and I can't get it to work. This looks like a Midi loop but I checked cables and use one of the better midi-interfaces so.... How can this be solved??? Please help me cause I had this problem since I own the Virus A. I tried software-arpergiators, but I prefer to use my Virus. I hope someone can answer this question cause I'm desperate. P.S.:The Virus B has a separate midi thru connection, will this help? Greetings and thanks in advance. Martijn Baan Bean-inc@dds.nlX-From_: access-list-return-768-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 15 09:03:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com, "Rick Reyes" Subject: Re: Fw: Filter routing Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:04:56 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:56:35 -0600, "Rick Reyes" wrote: >I believe saturation is prior to filter one. It does not feed filter 2... It's always post filter 1. The diagram on page 13 of the original manual illustrates this (and has a typo suggesting that filter 2 is 24dB in SER4 mode - it is always 12dB). Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music Email: softroom@btinternet.com Web: www.softroom.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-771-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 15 16:33:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:37:49 -0600 From: Rick Reyes Subject: Re: Filter routing To: access-list@teklab.com X-Priority: 3 Yea, your right. I was not sure of it's position. Just that it did not affect filter two output... Rick > >>I believe saturation is prior to filter one. It does not feed filter 2... > >It's always post filter 1. The diagram on page 13 of the original manual illustrates this (and has a typo suggesting that filter 2 is 24dB in SER4 mode - it is always 12dB). > >Paul >---X-From_: access-list-return-772-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 15 18:06:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: TomShear@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:09:17 EST Subject: Controlling Virus To: access-list@teklab.com Sometime ago on this list someone discussed the method of using an empty preset on their Emu e6400 to control the virus... could someone walk me through this process (through private email so it doesn't bug the rest of the list) as I think I am missing something... thanks!X-From_: access-list-return-773-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 15 20:13:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:17:06 -0800 X-Priority: 3 When do us Virus A guys get an update to use the new patches? Or did I miss this? I was about to buy set #1 from Rob Papen but was told they were going to be free from access for the virus a model.... I've patiently waited months now. :-) Just curious.... I'm really antzy to get them installed... and feeling kinda neglected. :-) Kintama -----Original Message----- From: CKe9644719@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 6:52 AM Subject: OS 3.0 Rev. b >Hi List, > >A revision of OS 3.0 is available on our webside. Several bugs are fixed: > >- LFO2 Wave works correct. >- Delay Output Select is included >- No more hanging voices e.g. on fast forward in Logic > >Christoph Kemper >access music X-From_: access-list-return-774-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 15 20:54:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 19:54:04 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:17:06 -0800, "Kintama" wrote: >Just curious.... I'm really antzy to get them installed... and feeling kinda neglected. :-) Can't you just install them? The features that aren't present on the "a" won't work of course but that's OK.... Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-775-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 15 22:18:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:21:30 -0500 From: remi tanguay X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b hi there.... huh? a "revision" of OS 3.0 on the site? i dont see it anywhere apart from the normal OS 3.0.... am i missing something? hehe thanks CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >Hi List, > >A revision of OS 3.0 is available on our webside. Several bugs are fixed: > >- LFO2 Wave works correct. >- Delay Output Select is included >- No more hanging voices e.g. on fast forward in Logic > >Christoph Kemper >access musicX-From_: access-list-return-776-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 01:20:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:24:22 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com CC: Christoph Kemper Subject: Suggestion for Virus KB, was Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b >hi there.... huh? a "revision" of OS 3.0 on the site? i dont see it anywhere apart from the normal OS 3.0.... am i missing something? hehe thanks Reload the page: the old page might still be in the cache of your browser. The revision B also fixes the bug I had with Logic! Thanx Christoph!!! I also have a suggestion for the Virus KB: right now, the transpose buttons work on the patch itself, but it'd be much more handy if it worked not on the patch, but on the midi channel instead... I'd like a way to use the transport feature not only for sounds inside the Virus, but also for external sounds. Right now it seems like it doesn't transmit higher notes when using it as master keyboard and use the transpose buttons. Please fix this if possible. Many thanks. Greetings, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-777-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 02:07:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:11:16 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: fs1r To: access-list@teklab.com I just saw one at mars music for $350.....they've been discontinued.....I thought it was pretty cool, but I wondered if I could get most of those sounds with a virus or a MW XT....obviously not the vocal patches...does anybody use a Yamaha QY70 to compose while they're not in the studio or to control say a sampler? I just got one, and I want to know what other people think...... Gel-Sol --- robotfarm@holden.stefani.com wrote: >Several people have emailed to ask where I got the FS1R at >for $399 so I thought I would forward my reply to the >whole list... > > > >www.americanmusical.com > >They advertise it for $499 but they will price match sam ash and guitar center who have it for $399(though I >belive they are both sold out!). > >The only thing they won't do is their payment plan since >it is a price match against places that don't have a payment >plan. I only mention this because it might slow down your >order if you ask for the payment plan(if you order online). > >They had to call me to make sure I still wanted it without >the payment plan. > >Anyway, if you place an order by 5pm EST it will ship same >day with free 2 day shipping. > >And no I don't work for them... :) > >-Jack > -------------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.phpwebhosting.com > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-778-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 05:15:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:36:09 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Industrial Bass Any pointers on programming the cold/synthetic bass type sounds you hear from bands like front 242 and skinny puppy? I like the sound, but can't quite get it...X-From_: access-list-return-779-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 06:13:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:16:56 EST Subject: Re: off topic... yammi fs1r To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << Did it come with the OEM version of SoundDiver bundled? I've heard that it might. I basically am looking for a way to make my own FSEQ's... >> Mine didn't but there is an editor off of one of these links: http://members.xoom.com/FS1R/ http://www.mutone.com/fs1r/ BTW, the Formant Sequences are very, very cool! Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-780-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 06:16:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:19:26 EST Subject: Re: fs1r To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << I thought it was pretty cool, but I wondered if I could get most of those sounds with a virus or a MW XT....obviously not the vocal patches... >> Hmm, that's a tough one, but you're still comparing a wavetable synth to an 8 operator FM synth. I think there is definately room for both, especially at the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars Music). I have both and they don't clash...each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Surprisingly I find the fs1r better than the XT for most things. Email me if you'd like more information. Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-781-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 09:46:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for Virus KB, was Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:47:56 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:24:22 +0100, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >not on the patch, but on the midi channel instead... I'd like a way to use the transport feature not only for sounds inside the Virus, but also for external sounds. Right now it seems like it doesn't transmit higher notes when using it as master keyboard and use the transpose buttons. Please fix this if possible. Many thanks. Hear hear! If the transpose keys of the keyboard version worked in conjunction with the keyboard rather than just with the onboard "module", you could hold a note, transpose down an octave and not have the Virus' sound change until you hit another note. This is how transpose keys work on most master keyboards. Also, I'd love it to respond to standard Local Off MIDI controller (CC122 is it?) rather than require a burst of sysex to do this. NB I've just completed a Regelwerk Preset for the Virus "b" - will post it soon to my page if there is any interest. It provides slider control for Osc 3, ring mod, noise, arpeggiator functions and effects - as many as I could do with 24 sliders and buttons anyway. I'm now just waiting to see if there will be changes made to the way the keyboard transmits arpeggios etc. to both itself and external modules before I add the final two buttons.... Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music Email: softroom@btinternet.com Web: www.softroom.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-782-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 16:04:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:14:09 +0100 From: joel X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: fs1r Hey Could i get an mp3 or two of the FS1r please maybe ? ! Thanks! - Joel. ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: >hi, > ><< I thought it was pretty cool, but I wondered if I could get most of those sounds with a virus or a MW XT....obviously not the vocal patches... >> > >Hmm, that's a tough one, but you're still comparing a wavetable synth to an 8 operator FM synth. I think there is definately room for both, especially at the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars Music). > >I have both and they don't clash...each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Surprisingly I find the fs1r better than the XT for most things. > >Email me if you'd like more information. > >Thanks, > >Shawn >shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-783-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 16:56:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: mathias@cstone.net (Mathias Tornqvist) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:59:59 -0500 From: Mathias Tornqvist X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for Virus KB, was Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b >I also have a suggestion for the Virus KB: right now, the transpose buttons work on the patch itself, but it'd be much more handy if it worked not on the patch, but on the midi channel instead. Keep in mind that this would cause an incompatibility with the non-keyboard versions of the Virus. As it is now, I imagine that the transpose function was implemented as an editing function to help with the fact that the coarse tuning of Oscillator 1 is not quickly accessible. I assume a software switch could be implemented to select wich way you prefer, but that would clutter the interface even further. MathiasX-From_: access-list-return-784-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 17:24:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:28:21 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for Virus KB, was Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b Hi, >>I also have a suggestion for the Virus KB: right now, the transpose buttons work on the patch itself, but it'd be much more handy if it worked not on the patch, but on the midi channel instead. >Keep in mind that this would cause an incompatibility with the non-keyboard versions of the Virus. Correct indeed, and that's why I suggest a setting in the "control" menu for "transpose -> local/midi". And by the way, there are already some differences in the OS of the Keyboard, I think: the settings that are only available on the keyboard model (I think). Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-785-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 17:44:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:48:35 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: fs1r To: access-list@teklab.com theres a bunch of Mp3's at: http://members.xoom.com/FS1R/ Gel-Sol --- joel wrote: >Hey > >Could i get an mp3 or two of the FS1r please maybe ? ! > >Thanks! - Joel. > > >ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: > >>hi, >> >><< I thought it was pretty cool, but I wondered if >I could get most of those >>sounds with a virus or a MW XT....obviously not >the vocal patches... >> >> >>Hmm, that's a tough one, but you're still >comparing a wavetable synth to an 8 >>operator FM synth. I think there is definately >room for both, especially at >>the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars >Music). >> >>I have both and they don't clash...each have their >own strengths and >>weaknesses. Surprisingly I find the fs1r better >than the XT for most things. >> >>Email me if you'd like more information. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Shawn >>shawnclear@aol.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-786-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 17:47:30 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: mathias@cstone.net (Mathias Tornqvist) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:51:40 -0500 From: Mathias Tornqvist X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for Virus KB, was Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b >>Keep in mind that this would cause an incompatibility with the non-keyboard versions of the Virus. > >Correct indeed, and that's why I suggest a setting in the "control" menu for "transpose -> local/midi". And by the way, there are already some differences in the OS of the Keyboard, I think: the settings that are only available on the keyboard model (I think). > >Ciao, >Joeri Aha, but what about the cases where you have a patch, or a sequence, recorded with a B using the patch transpose, and then switch to a KB? Would the KB ignore this, since by making the KB transpose the keyboard, not the patch, the KB essentially doesn't have a patch transpose function. In theory I agree that a transpose function should originate at the keyboard. Instead of a transpose function, I'd prefer to have seen a Osc 1 Octave switch. Of course, if that had been the case, I wouldn't have expected them to add transpose switches when desiging the KB. I don't envy the Access designers (well, actually I do - I'd love to have their job...) in that they really try to keep everyone satisfied (and I have never seen a company as accomodating as Access) while trying to maintain their origial vision. If you look at the pictures of Virus prototypes on their website, you can see that it started out as a much simpler machine, and now the concept is being stretched to be everything to everyone! For those who wished it had a built in sampler - that completely defeats the purpose! NOT having samples is what's cool about the new wave of synthesis. And just as importantly, NOT having hundreds of parameters - one doesn't have to wonder long why the Yamaha F1SR (?) was a flop! MathiasX-From_: access-list-return-787-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 18:58:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:58:34 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Another idea!!!! :) was Re: Suggestion for Virus KB Hi, Sorry for the length of this mail, but the idea that I describe "might" be interesting. >Aha, but what about the cases where you have a patch, or a sequence, recorded with a B using the patch transpose, and then switch to a KB? Would the KB ignore this, since by making the KB transpose the keyboard, not the patch, the KB essentially doesn't have a patch transpose function. The local transposition itself could be stored inside the patch, but the transposition of the keyboard itself is only a midi setting (what notes it triggers) and wouldn't be stored inside a patch (we could leave it open for discussion whether it's stored in a multi). Toggling the ctrl menu [transpose -> "local"] let's you edit the local patch transpose again and toggling the ctrl menu [transpose -> "midi"] let's you edit the midi setting of the keyboard. You have both available and one doesn't exclude the other. >In theory I agree that a transpose function should originate at the keyboard. Instead of a transpose function, I'd prefer to have seen a Osc 1 Octave switch. Of course, if that had been the case, I wouldn't have expected them to add transpose switches when desiging the KB. Transpose switches on the KB would have been needed anyway to switch octaves when using it as masterkeyboard (which is exactly what you "can't" do with the transpose feature as it is now). Anyway, since there's no osc1 octave switch, there's no use in discussing the lack of it: we have to work with what we have... on the other hand, it might inspire to open up another idea. You're right: editing osc1 is sometimes more work than what it should be, because of the menu's. Now that we have osc4 in the new Virus models, we have even more menu entries to deal with... so, let's go for another suggestion (I'm just trying to think of new ways to control this synth, don't hesitate to comment on these ideas): What if we were able to switch the assignment of the knobs? Not every knob by itself, but a set of knobs: right now, osc2 has most knobs. What if we were able to use this section for controlling osc1, or osc3 (not the subosc, I mean the new full osc)? Switching could easily be done by (eg) press-holding osc edit and hitting the part up button to go to the next osc, or part down button to go to the previous osc. (or something else because if I remember correctly, the original Virus doesn't have the part knobs) That way you could scroll through the osc's that are assigned to the knob set of osc2. Is this possible? Is it a good idea? We'd be able to control any osc with the knobs of osc2. Two things to keep in mind: 1) what happens with the controller number the knobs send out? Can this be switched together with the osc set that is selected/assigned to the osc2 knobs? And 2) we'd need a clear display of what osc we're editing, otherwise we could be editing the wrong osc. Something in the display like "O1"/"O2"/"O3" (maybe instead of the name of the patch?). The same could be done to control LFO3 with the knob set of another LFO. >I don't envy the Access designers (well, actually I do - I'd love to have their job...) in that they really try to keep everyone satisfied I'm very happy and very satisfied with it. I'm not complaining, only suggesting new things that might be interesting for everyone. Changing someone's complaints or ideas into a opportunities is also an art. :))) >(and I have never seen a company as accomodating as Access) I fully agree! >And just as importantly, NOT >having hundreds of parameters - one doesn't have to wonder long why the Yamaha F1SR (?) was a flop! I don't think that having hundreds of parameters is the issue. The issue is to have a user interface that let's people work with it in a creative way. This can be done by hardware (knobs etc) or software (OS design with a good structure). Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-790-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 20:43:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:46:58 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: fs1r To: access-list@teklab.com I just got fs1r.....I couldn't resist with such a low price.....damn, I sound like a Wal-Mart commercial.... it's pretty damn cool.....I want to use some of the patches, and I'm not one to use patches....I prefer to tweak....the vocoded stuff is all very nice..... Gel-Sol --- ShawnClear@aol.com wrote: >hi, > ><< I thought it was pretty cool, but I wondered if I could get most of those >sounds with a virus or a MW XT....obviously not the vocal patches... >> > >Hmm, that's a tough one, but you're still comparing a wavetable synth to an 8 >operator FM synth. I think there is definately room for both, especially at >the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars Music). > >I have both and they don't clash...each have their own strengths and >weaknesses. Surprisingly I find the fs1r better than the XT for most things. > >Email me if you'd like more information. > >Thanks, > >Shawn >shawnclear@aol.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-791-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 22:30:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:34:18 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Ok thanks, I'm getting them now :-) James -----Original Message----- From: CKe9644719@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Sunday, January 16, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b >In einer eMail vom 15.01.00 20:17:41 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>When do us Virus A guys get an update to use the new patches? Or did I >miss >>this? I was about to buy set #1 from Rob Papen but was told they were >going >>to be free from access for the virus a model.... I've patiently waited months now. :-) >> >>Just curious.... I'm really antzy to get them installed... and feeling >kinda >>neglected. :-) > >The Virus sounds are available on our webside since weeks. You will find them on page 'SOUNDS'. > >-Christoph X-From_: access-list-return-792-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 22:33:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for Virus KB, was Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:34:41 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:38:42 EST, CKe9644719@aol.com wrote: >>Also, I'd love it to respond to standard Local Off MIDI controller (CC122 is it?) rather than require a burst of sysex to do this. >This should be possible as well, since this controller is not defined in the Virus yet. Does any unit (sequencer etc.) use this control by default? I believe Cakewalk sends it by default on startup to set up any connected master keyboards. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-793-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 16 23:54:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:58:24 +0100 From: Martijn Baan X-Accept-Language: nl To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Arpegiator depressed CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: >In einer eMail vom 14.01.00 23:16:40 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>I really have a serious problem with my Virus A. I can't get my arpeggiator on my Virus send notes out to my sequencer. Notes sound interupted when I put on Arp Send on. First my setup. Unitor 8 mkII, Cubase VST 3.7 R1 (official), Roland E-30 Keyboard, Roland JV-1080, TB303 and Akai VX90. >>All midi equipment is connected via its separate midi In and Out on the Unitor 8. >>When I connect my keyboard to the Virus In directly, and put my arp send ON, it works fine. But then of course, I CAN'T playback recorded Virus data (cutoff and all that), and I also hear my Virus all the time. (i have to put the midi volume of or set it to another midichannel or something. This is NOT what I want. > >The Arp Send feature is generally made for temporary use, especially for recording the Arpeggiator sequence. But do you need to record it? Why don't you simply record the notes of your keyboard? Then, the sequencer will trigger the Virus arpeggiator, as desired. You don't even have to change your midi cable setup. > >-Christoph This looks like a solution but it isn't cause I want to use the recorderd arpegiator pattern for other instruments. For example my 303 or Jv-1080. Isn't it possible? Do I mis something, of could it be a software bug in the Virus? Greetings, Martijn Baan Bean-inc@dds.nlX-From_: access-list-return-794-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 06:29:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:33:06 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Industrial Bass X-Originating-IP: 206.47.244.61 They used a lot of digital synths if I'm not mistaken. Try using a lot of FM and almost no other modulation. Should be able to imitate it by doing that, if not, I have no idea. Peaceout, Peter ------Original Message------ From: To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: January 16, 2000 4:36:09 AM GMT Subject: Industrial Bass Any pointers on programming the cold/synthetic bass type sounds you hear from bands like front 242 and skinny puppy? I like the sound, but can't quite get it... ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-795-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 08:51:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Am I missing something? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:53:46 +0200 X-Priority: 1 Hi, I have just d/l'ed the new O/S release, BUT 1. The readme file reads "Operating System 3.0" (NOT OS3.0b) 2. The Addendum reads "V30_Addendum_e.pdf" (NOT V30b) 3. ALL the files within the zip file reads "12/08/99". Is this file REALY the OS for 3.0b? I don't think so if I have a look at the above, or am I missing something? ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-796-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 09:04:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Fw: Am I missing something? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:00:15 +0200 X-Priority: 1 As an addition to my questions, the filename on the WEBPAGE is 'VIRUS300.ZIP', should it not be VIRUS30b.zip? Thanks Aubrey ----- Original Message ----- From: Aubrey Kloppers (System Administrator) To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 09:53 am Subject: Am I missing something? >Hi, I have just d/l'ed the new O/S release, BUT 1. The readme file reads "Operating System 3.0" (NOT OS3.0b) 2. The Addendum reads "V30_Addendum_e.pdf" (NOT V30b) 3. ALL the files within the zip file reads "12/08/99". Is this file REALY the OS for 3.0b? I don't think so if I have a look at the above, or am I missing something? >******************************************** >- Aubrey Kloppers >- systems@biblesociety.co.za >- Cape Town, South Africa >- tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) >- fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 >********************************************* X-From_: access-list-return-797-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 09:05:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: Arpegiator depressed Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:08:25 +0200 X-Priority: 3 I Know this is semi off-topic, but the VIRUS's ARP settings is very limited. For a VERY, VERY advanced ARP, goto http://teknotoys.com - These dudes have 2 REALY good software arp's, the first one being SEQ-303. You can do all kinds of things with it. I Personally use ARPx(8). With the JV1080 it is realy wicked. You can layer up to 8 ARPEGGIATORS at once, playing what you want when you want it. It exports standard MIDI files and slaves to any clocksource - OOPS, it is starting to sound like an advert. Have a look for yourself. Aubrey ----- Original Message ----- From: Martijn Baan To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 00:58 am Subject: Re: Arpegiator depressed > > >CKe9644719@aol.com schreef: > >>In einer eMail vom 14.01.00 23:16:40 MEZ, schreiben Sie: >> >>> >>>I really have a serious problem with my Virus A. I can't get my arpeggiator on my Virus send notes out to my sequencer. Notes sound interupted when I put on Arp Send on. First my setup. Unitor 8 mkII, Cubase VST 3.7 R1 (official), Roland E-30 Keyboard, Roland JV-1080, TB303 and Akai VX90. >>>All midi equipment is connected via its separate midi In and Out on the >>>Unitor 8. >>>When I connect my keyboard to the Virus In directly, and put my arp send >>>ON, it works fine. But then of course, I CAN'T playback recorded Virus >>>data (cutoff and all that), and I also hear my Virus all the time. (i have to put the midi volume of or set it to another midichannel or something. This is NOT what I want. >> >>The Arp Send feature is generally made for temporary use, especially for recording the Arpeggiator sequence. But do you need to record it? Why don't >>you simply record the notes of your keyboard? Then, the sequencer will trigger the Virus arpeggiator, as desired. You don't even have to change your >>midi cable setup. >> >>-Christoph > >This looks like a solution but it isn't cause I want to use the recorderd arpegiator pattern for other instruments. For example my 303 or Jv-1080. Isn't it >possible? Do I mis something, of could it be a software bug in the Virus? > >Greetings, > >Martijn Baan >Bean-inc@dds.nl X-From_: access-list-return-798-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 09:32:56 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:36:43 -0500 From: remi tanguay X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Fw: Am I missing something? yes i agree with you ... dunno if its REALLY a revision or the same things.... mayby someone have a better answer? Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >As an addition to my questions, the filename on the WEBPAGE is 'VIRUS300.ZIP', should it not be VIRUS30b.zip? > >Thanks >Aubrey >----- Original Message ----- >From: Aubrey Kloppers (System Administrator) To: >Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 09:53 am Subject: Am I missing something? > >>Hi, I have just d/l'ed the new O/S release, BUT 1. The readme file reads "Operating System 3.0" (NOT OS3.0b) 2. The Addendum reads "V30_Addendum_e.pdf" (NOT V30b) 3. ALL the files within the zip file reads "12/08/99". Is this file REALY the OS for 3.0b? I don't think so if I have a look at the above, or am I missing something? >>******************************************** >>- Aubrey Kloppers >>- systems@biblesociety.co.za >>- Cape Town, South Africa >>- tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) >>- fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 >>********************************************* X-From_: access-list-return-800-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 13:27:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:31:20 +0200 (EET) From: Janne Kaipainen To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Suggestion for Virus KB, was Re: OS 3.0 Rev. b On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote: >I also have a suggestion for the Virus KB: right now, the transpose buttons work on the patch itself, but it'd be much more handy if it worked not on the patch, but on the midi channel instead... I'd like a way to use the transport feature not only for sounds inside the Virus, but also for external sounds. Right now it seems like it doesn't transmit higher notes when using it as master keyboard and use the transpose buttons. Please fix this if possible. Many thanks. My words exactly. Seconded. Best regards, .janneX-From_: access-list-return-802-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 14:01:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Ideas, ideas Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:03:19 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com Are we never satisfied? Yes, I say. But still.... I'd personally LOVE a feature like the Polymorph where its third oscillator can be replaced by an external signal received at inputs 1&2 (or, I guess the auxilliaries, in the case of the Virus). This would allow for a whole extra bunch of timbres to be integrated neatly into the Virus' architecture.... far more neatly than using Multitimbral mode (which I don't anyway).... waddya think? Pretty please... ;-) Paul Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-803-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 14:29:36 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: mathias@cstone.net (Mathias Tornqvist) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:33:50 -0500 From: Mathias Tornqvist X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ideas, ideas Paul Nagle wrote: >I'd personally LOVE a feature like the Polymorph where its third oscillator can be replaced by an external signal received at inputs 1&2 (or, I guess the auxilliaries, in the case of the Virus). Perhaps the smoothest way of doing that (processing horsepower permitting) would be to offer the inputs and auxilliaries as additional digital waveforms. The would be found at the end of the sweep of the knob. That way, without adding a single menu item, we can FM, ring mod, blend with sawtooth, saturate, and hopefully (but probably not) sync. By modulating the waveform sweep you can even dynamically switch between the inputs, auxes, and waveforms. Also, by using one input at each oscillator and the split filter routing, you can get stereo, each with their own filters, using only one voice. While we're talking features, I'd like to see the possiblity of using the addtional outputs as FX sends. Right now we have a send parameter for delay, but if you could assign a pair out outputs with it's own send parameter, you'd have a much easier time patching FX without an external mixer. You CAN work around this by setting the delay to zero ms, routing the delay output to anything but the main pair, and then using the delay send parameter. Of course, then we lose the delay. MathiasX-From_: access-list-return-804-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 14:50:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ideas, ideas Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:52:26 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:33:50 -0500, Mathias Tornqvist wrote: >Perhaps the smoothest way of doing that (processing horsepower permitting) would be to offer the inputs and auxilliaries as additional digital waveforms. The would be found at the end of the sweep of the Ooh, even better! Nice idea. >knob. That way, without adding a single menu item, we can FM, ring mod, blend with sawtooth, saturate, and hopefully (but probably not) sync. By modulating the waveform sweep you can even dynamically switch between the inputs, auxes, and waveforms. Also, by using one input at each oscillator and the split filter routing, you can get stereo, each with their own filters, using only one voice. You got me convinced! >While we're talking features, I'd like to see the possiblity of using the addtional outputs as FX sends. Right now we have a send parameter for I'd love to see the option for delay parameters to be not global but taken directly from Part "x" (either user-assignable or maybe always Part 1) in multimode. The reason? My ONLY use of multimode and the additional outputs is as a getaround for there being no headphone socket but when I do this, the patch I am playing never sounds as it does in Single mode since it does not have its own delay parameters... Another suggestion for convenient headphone operation would be to switch on a function which mirrors the entire output in Single Mode to the other outputs. Paul P.S. Just thought: if several multi parts have modulation matrix settings to alter delay time, which one is honoured? Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-805-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 19:20:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: "access-list" Subject: Sequencer suggestions and advice ? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:24:16 -0800 X-Priority: 3 My first questions are specific to the RM1x for sequencing. Later in this message I'm asking for better suggestions/solutions to sequencing. Sorry for the long post. -----1 I'm curious to know if the RM1x works as a decent sequencer when you have a keyboard (in my case the Kawai K5000s) controlling the Virus, and the Virus being being recorded by the RM1x. I assume the RM1x can be used as a sound source along with the Virus for the sequencer on the RM1x, but there is no way to set up the Kawai to also be a sound source is there? Or would I have to get one of those 'old school' midi interfaces that arn't computer controlled like my little USB MidiSport 2x2 to record the Kawai also? Its not that big of a deal if the Kawai isn't used for more than a controller at this time. I'm mostly focused on the Virus and sequencing on the RM1x. My intent is to use the RM1x as a 'live' sequencer. I tend to make music better if I'm playing, and not paying attention to the mouse in cubase or logic. Seems with software your diddling with the computer as much as the music... is there a better solution than this? -----2 I'm open to any ideas. I'm even open to the reality I have to stick with the damn software sequencers (sorry I know people from logic frequent this list). But looking for something that suits my style where I can select a bunch of singles for a multi and hold notes on the keyboard (arpeggiate) or actually play my notes, while I twiddle knobs and it (IT = this sequencer solution you recommend) records it. As far as playing notes off the keyboard, I do like to actually play the notes not just hold something down to arpeggiate, so I would like it to have a facility to record notes played and save that so that I can merge it into a just note held arpeggiation. I know this sounds like something cubase or logic are good at, but god I tell ya I really hate using those sequencers... breaking out a pen tool to draw stuff in, the concept of having it know the bpm seems stupid to me, it should just be recording at such a high resolution that I don't have to worry about being in sync with the 'click' and then I just go back in later and line up all the tracks so they are in sync... I could go on and on with why I don't like software sequencers, but it comes down to the fact that I just want to play my keyboard, not run the mouse, anybody ever heard a mouse that sounded like a Moog or 909? Yeah Creamware's Pulsar could be considered an answer to that but again... lots of technology... I want my hands to only touch something that makes a noise or plays a note... that's it. This is making music for God's sake! I don't feel I'm asking too much. :-) Of course I'm new to all this, and coming at it without the background of sequencing from the 80's so I didn't "grow" into the current state of messed up sequencing that seems to work with everyone. My music (if I ever stop fighting with the technology to actually record something :-) ) is more dance/space/trance and yet sometimes more melodic. So maybe there are people on the list with similiar music tastes and been thru what I'm going thru that can offer advice? Thanks, Kintama PS I did look into the QY700 briefly, but never found out how you select instruments, or if it will solve my troubles. Cubase allows for those dumps from the Virus to select a patch from which I do like, but I would hate to think that on the hardware sequencers you have to pick Bank/Patch numbers instead of actual instrument/patch names. Again, I'm open to hearing anything that can help... thanks. X-From_: access-list-return-806-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 19:44:27 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:49:04 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list Subject: Re: Sequencer suggestions and advice ? On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Kintama wrote: >My first questions are specific to the RM1x for sequencing. Later in this message I'm asking for better suggestions/solutions to sequencing. Sorry for the long post. >-----1 >I'm curious to know if the RM1x works as a decent sequencer when you have a keyboard (in my case the Kawai K5000s) controlling the Virus, and the Virus being being recorded by the RM1x. > Yes. This is the setup I have and it works fine. keyboard --> midi-in rm1x midi-out --> virus >I assume the RM1x can be used as a sound source along with the Virus for the sequencer on the RM1x, but there is no way to set up the Kawai to also be a sound source is there? > The easiest way to have this would be to go kawai midi-out -> rm1x midi-in, rm1x midi-out -> kawai-in kawai-through- virus in. i think this would work. >or actually play my notes, while I twiddle knobs and it (IT = this >sequencer solution you recommend) records it. As far as playing notes The rm1x is a decent choice with the virus. I myself with probably eventually sell my rm1x and use the mpc2000's sequencer now that the mpc2000xl has better controls(dedicated mute buttons and bank buttons). I have it set up so the virus is in multi-mode and then I just select a track on the rm1x to play a different midi channel on the virus. My keyboard always transmits on the same channel. The rm1x re-channels the incoming data to whatever the current track is set to output to. > >I know this sounds like something cubase or logic are good at, but god I tell ya I really hate using those sequencers... breaking out a pen tool to draw stuff in, the concept of having it know the bpm seems stupid to me, it should just be recording at such a high resolution that I don't have to worry about being in sync with the 'click' and then I just go back in later and line up all the tracks so they are in sync... I could go on and on with why I don't like software sequencers, but it comes down to the fact that I just want to play my keyboard, not run the mouse, anybody ever heard a mouse that sounded Well, I think that with any sequencer you will need to play someone with the click for things to work out later on when you edit. Also, you should keep in mind that the rm1x can not update the virus o.s. as the midi file is too big for the rm1x's memory. You will still need a computer sequencer for this(although windows media player updated my virus with no problems at all). Good Luck! -Jack ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.phpwebhosting.com/ $9.95 a month with php3, mysql and more! -----------------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-807-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 17 19:50:04 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "t@nk3" To: Subject: thinking of selling my virus a ;-? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:54:55 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: tanke@neuewelt.com hi all ; ) i«d like to get the virus b and i«m not sure at what deal i can sell the virus a and were to get the cheapest virus b (in germany)....has anyone suggestions about that ? best thing would be of course a high price for the virus a and a low price for the virus b... ; )=) maybeÊsomeone knows how to deal with that or has already done this kinda trade... cheerz and peace out to ya all mark X-From_: access-list-return-813-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 21:32:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Yearn" To: "Virus-Mailing-Liste" Subject: Virus B Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:41:42 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hey, hat jemand von Euch mal dran gedacht, mehrere Viren B oder KB Ÿber letsbuyit zu organisieren? Das wŠr vielleicht der Weg, um gŸnstig dieses ABSOLUT FETTE GER€T abzugreifen, oder? Ich hab keine Ahnung, ob das geht, aber wenn ja, wer wŠr dabei? CU Musac X-From_: access-list-return-808-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 07:09:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Updating the VIRUS-b using Cakewalk. Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:13:42 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Hi, cyber7 (Aubrey) here. I have tested the dump of the VIRUS-b again from Cakewalk. Here follows the procedure: 1. Load the MIDI file into Cakewalk. 2. Boot the VIRUS-b into O/S UPDATE mode. 3. set the BPM to 60 on Cakewalk. 4. Start Cakewalk. I do nothing else and it works 100%. I am using Cakewalk 8.04 and no problems reported. Thanks ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-809-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 12:29:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "D_Tikovoi" To: Subject: Re: fs1r Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:30:39 -0000 X-Priority: 3 >>the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars Music). Shawn Is $349 the price of the Fs1r ? If not, what is the best price around ???X-From_: access-list-return-810-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 13:12:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Envelope Generator" To: Subject: Re: fs1r Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:16:45 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi I want to buy FS1R now in Germany for 1396,- DEM export price. -- Original Message ----- From: D_Tikovoi To: Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 12:30 PM Subject: Re: fs1r > > >>>the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars Music). Shawn > > >Is $349 the price of the Fs1r ? If not, what is the best price around ??? > > X-From_: access-list-return-811-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 14:22:48 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: fs1r Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:20:48 +0100 You lucky people ! after hearing about that price drop on this list, I called to a musicshop here in Belgium. They said that the price was 1220$, but with the price reduction, that would be 950$ !!!! Why can the FS1R be so cheap in the US, and I still have to pay so much money in Belgium ??? :( gtreetz, Steven PC:D_Tikovoi@email.msn.com on 18/01/2000 12:35:04 To: access-list@teklab.com @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Steven De Mesmaker/AIQ/CT/ATLAS COPCO) Subject: Re: fs1r >>the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars Music). Shawn Is $349 the price of the Fs1r ? If not, what is the best price around ???X-From_: access-list-return-823-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 13:49:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Joe Frost" To: Subject: Virus Patches Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:00:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal I'm part of a trio of DnB producers (http://www.hijackers.co.uk), and we've recently bought a Virus b running OS 3.0. We've already tweaked about 30 patches for various tracks that we're working on and have found ourselves making extensive use of the Virus already, but we'd love to trade patches with other people working on the same type of stuff. In particular we'd like to get hold of more old Hardcore/Rave sounds (think Prodigy:Experience), but we're interested in everything. If you want to trade then contact me either through the list or directly and we'll sort something out. On an entirely separate note, does anyone know if there will be support for the Virus b in SoundDiver or MIDIQuest? It would be great to have a random-patch-variation tool for the Virus (I know someone made a Logic Env for this but we missed out as we're all Cubase boys). Best Regards, Joe HijackersX-From_: access-list-return-812-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 15:01:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: fs1r Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:03:49 +0200 X-Priority: 3 >Why can the FS1R be so cheap in the US, and I still have to pay so much money in Belgium ??? Steve, I am from South Africa, and I must say that ANY hardware that I purchase (except for the VIRUS-b :)) comes from an outfit in the east at www.soundonsound.com Have a look, you will be surprised, and if the dude (Tamagotchi, or something) does not have the equipment, he will order it. As far as I am concerned, ANY ROLAND AND YAMAHA equipment I purchase comes from him. I bought a JP8080 at 50% the SA Price, a MU100r at about 45%, an A3000 for about 75% and a CS1x for about 30% of what the costs are in SA. The BIG schlep is that you need to do everything yourself, meaning, pay import taxes, get it from the shipping CO etc. BUT AT A FRACTION OF THE PRICE AT A MUSIC STORE. I am sorry, but this is not blatant advertising, I have just been ripped-off too much by the BIG musicstores in South Africa... cyber7 (Aubrey)X-From_: access-list-return-814-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 22:30:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "t@nk3" To: Subject: Re: Virus B Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:35:06 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: tanke@neuewelt.com ich auf jeden fall ;)) da mu§ man nur mal auf der site die anregung geben und vielleicht klappts.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Yearn To: Virus-Mailing-Liste Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 12:41 AM Subject: Virus B Hey, hat jemand von Euch mal dran gedacht, mehrere Viren B oder KB Ÿber letsbuyit zu organisieren? Das wŠr vielleicht der Weg, um gŸnstig dieses ABSOLUT FETTE GER€T abzugreifen, oder? Ich hab keine Ahnung, ob das geht, aber wenn ja, wer wŠr dabei? CU Musac X-From_: access-list-return-815-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 18 22:54:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Bart Muskala" To: Subject: Re: Virus B Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:58:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 English please ??? :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: t@nk3 To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Virus B ich auf jeden fall ;)) da mu§ man nur mal auf der site die anregung geben und vielleicht klappts.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Yearn To: Virus-Mailing-Liste Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 12:41 AM Subject: Virus B Hey, hat jemand von Euch mal dran gedacht, mehrere Viren B oder KB Ÿber letsbuyit zu organisieren? Das wŠr vielleicht der Weg, um gŸnstig dieses ABSOLUT FETTE GER€T abzugreifen, oder? Ich hab keine Ahnung, ob das geht, aber wenn ja, wer wŠr dabei? CU Musac X-From_: access-list-return-816-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 01:23:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:27:23 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus B They want to buy a Virus B in group to get discount. Funny that people mail in cryptic language when it comes to money matters. :))) I'm not so sure that the price would be much lower. I think the retail stores don't have big margins on the Virus. (not sure though) English please ??? :-) ich auf jeden fall ;))da mu§ man nur mal auf der site die anregung geben und vielleicht klappts.... Hey, hat jemand von Euch mal dran gedacht, mehrere Viren B oder KB Ÿber letsbuyit zu organisieren? Das wŠr vielleicht der Weg, um gŸnstig dieses ABSOLUT FETTE GER€T abzugreifen, oder? Ich hab keine Ahnung, ob das geht, aber wenn ja, wer wŠr dabei? Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born Deejays X-From_: access-list-return-817-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 03:35:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SLAK305@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:39:26 EST Subject: Re: Updating the VIRUS-b using Cakewalk. To: access-list@teklab.com HOW DO U GET THE VIRUS IN THE OS UPDATE MODE I CANT UPDATE THIS NEW VERSION FOR SHIT I NEED HELP IM NEW TO THISX-From_: access-list-return-818-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 06:08:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:12:06 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: fs1r To: access-list@teklab.com I bought my FS1R at a mars music in the DC metropolitan area, and the typically nerdy keyboard salesguy told me that when he was at the last namm show, he was drunk in a bar and got to talkin' with the synth designers at Yamaha and the reason they could sell the FS1r so cheap was because it was Yamaha's technology.....you can take that either way you want, I know I am......all I can say is that it was VERY worth $350......... Gel-Sol --- steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com wrote: >You lucky people ! > >after hearing about that price drop on this list, I called to a musicshop here in Belgium. They said that the price was 1220$, but with the price reduction, that would be 950$ !!!! > >Why can the FS1R be so cheap in the US, and I still have to pay so much money in Belgium ??? > >:( > >gtreetz, > >Steven > > > > > > > >PC:D_Tikovoi@email.msn.com on 18/01/2000 12:35:04 To: access-list@teklab.com @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Steven De Mesmaker/AIQ/CT/ATLAS COPCO) >Subject: Re: fs1r > > > > > >>>the prices of $979 (NovaMusik) and $349 (Mars >Music). >>>Shawn > > >Is $349 the price of the Fs1r ? If not, what is the best price around ??? > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-819-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 07:00:52 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: Updating the VIRUS-b using Cakewalk. Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:05:25 +0200 X-Priority: 3 The dump looks like it is incomplete. I have tested both (from the WEB and the e-mail attatchment) and neither works... Aubrey ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 04:39 am Subject: Re: Updating the VIRUS-b using Cakewalk. >HOW DO U GET THE VIRUS IN THE OS UPDATE MODE I CANT UPDATE THIS NEW VERSION >FOR SHIT I NEED HELP IM NEW TO THISX-From_: access-list-return-820-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 13:03:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: , "Jay Vaughan" , "frank katzer" Subject: WOOOOOOOPS? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:07:44 +0200 X-Priority: 1 Did I say something wrong by saying that the VIRUS-b dump (On the Web-Page and the e-mail attatchment) was incorrect? I have not seen anyone from access making/breaking the silence... PS - When exactly is the SONY-REJECT person going to be un-subscribed? ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-821-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 13:16:36 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:21:24 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Re: Updating the VIRUS-b using Cakewalk. At 21:39 18.01.00 EST, you wrote: >HOW DO U GET THE VIRUS IN THE OS UPDATE MODE I CANT UPDATE THIS NEW VERSION FOR SHIT I NEED HELP IM NEW TO THIS The Virus b or kb does not need to be set in update mode via pressing the [store] button when switching on the machine. The Virus b / kb recognizes incoming System Data automatically so the update-mode is not necessary anymore. Please make sure you checked the following points, too: - I had the best results with a speed of 80-85 bpm - please make sure Midi-Clock and -Click is off - The Virus b/kb should be connected directly to the Midi-Interface (no other gear inbetween) Send me an email and please describe what shows up in the display of your Virus when you start the System-File in your sequencer, etc. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-822-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 13:40:57 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: , Subject: Re: Updating the VIRUS-b using Cakewalk. Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:46:03 +0200 X-Priority: 1 The VIRUS-b OS 3.0b does not work correctly. Even the filesize does not look right. Please could someone from Access have a look? It has now taken 2 days off my work schedule (I work at a normal job during the day.) and would like someone reliable to re-create/update/send the new OS. Thank you cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: Joerg Huettner To: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 14:21 pm Subject: Re: Updating the VIRUS-b using Cakewalk. >At 21:39 18.01.00 EST, you wrote: >>HOW DO U GET THE VIRUS IN THE OS UPDATE MODE I CANT UPDATE THIS NEW VERSION >>FOR SHIT I NEED HELP IM NEW TO THIS > >The Virus b or kb does not need to be set in update mode via pressing the [store] button when switching on the machine. The Virus b / kb recognizes incoming System Data automatically so the update-mode is not necessary anymore. >Please make sure you checked the following points, too: > >- I had the best results with a speed of 80-85 bpm - please make sure Midi-Clock and -Click is off - The Virus b/kb should be connected directly to the Midi-Interface (no other gear inbetween) > >Send me an email and please describe what shows up in the display of your Virus when you start the System-File in your sequencer, etc. > >Best Wishes, > >Joerg Huettner > >--------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH >Product Support Neustr. 9-12 >jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf >http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 >http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 >--------------------------------------------------------------- X-From_: access-list-return-824-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 15:15:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:18:56 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Ramp Generator please? To: access-list@teklab.com Cc: ck@access-music.de Hi! First of all, thank you, Access, for the OS 3.0 revision b. That LFO2 wave select bug was really annoying. Now back to the topic. To the Virus programmer(s), would it be possible if you will add one or two bi-polar ramp generators to the Modulation Matrix source? I have had the Virus b for about a week (the best synth I have ever owned!), but I have created a lot of patches already and will do a lot more. I always find myself needing a ramp generator for making transient for the sounds or a pitch attack envelope that is seperated from the filter or amp envelope, etc. I think a few ramp generators will more or less skyrocket the Virus' sound creation possibilities at not too much processing power load. Please consider. Thank you! norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-825-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 15:19:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ramp Generator please? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:22:23 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:18:56 -0800 (PST), Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >I think a few ramp generators will more or less skyrocket the Virus' sound creation possibilities at not too much processing power load. Please consider. Have you considered using LFOs in envelope mode to achieve this? Paul Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-826-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 15:42:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:46:58 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: Ramp Generator please? To: access-list@teklab.com, softroom@btinternet.com --- Paul Nagle wrote: >On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:18:56 -0800 (PST), Norsez Orankijanan > wrote: > > >Have you considered using LFOs in envelope mode to achieve this? I think I missed this one. Could you elaborate more? What is the LFOs in envelope mode? norsez P.S. Are you the same Paul Nagle who writes for SOS??? :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-827-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 15:55:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ramp Generator please? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:58:24 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:46:58 -0800 (PST), Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >I think I missed this one. Could you elaborate more? What is the LFOs in envelope mode? LFO 1 and 2 can work as simple 1-shot envelopes. So you could set either of them to, say, sawtooth, and have the effect of a simple upwards or downwards ramp to control pitch, filter, anything. You can alter the contour of the waveform too and, if memory serves, its startpoint/phase and vary this according to key position. Remember that there is a freely-assignable slot for each LFO which means you can conserve valuable mod matrix slots. You can shorten the overall envelope using the LFO rate and you can invert it by inverting the moduation amount. I'm away from the studio now so all this is off the top of my head - but you should find everything you want in the LFO section - slightly more accessible on a Virus "b" but still fairly easy. Start with a basic patch and experiment. >P.S. Are you the same Paul Nagle who writes for SOS??? :) I do dabble from time to time when the real experts are unavailable... ;-) Paul Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com http://www.softroom.co.uk Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-828-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 19:44:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:15:03 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ramp Generator please? press env mode and the lfo does act as a envelope with free assignable destinations Oli Paul Nagle schrieb: >On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:46:58 -0800 (PST), Norsez Orankijanan wrote: > >>I think I missed this one. Could you elaborate more? What is the LFOs in envelope mode? >LFO 1 and 2 can work as simple 1-shot envelopes. So you could set either of them to, say, sawtooth, and have the effect of a simple upwards or downwards ramp to control pitch, filter, anything. You can alter the contour of the waveform too and, if memory serves, its startpoint/phase and vary this according to key position. > >Remember that there is a freely-assignable slot for each LFO which means you can conserve valuable mod matrix slots. You can shorten the overall envelope using the LFO rate and you can invert it by inverting the moduation amount. I'm away from the studio now so all this is off the top of my head - but you should find everything you want in the LFO section - slightly more accessible on a Virus "b" but still fairly easy. Start with a basic patch and experiment. > >>P.S. Are you the same Paul Nagle who writes for SOS??? :) >I do dabble from time to time when the real experts are unavailable... ;-) > >Paul >Paul Nagle softroom@btinternet.com >http://www.softroom.co.uk > >Check CDs Lore & Cyberdiver at http://www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-829-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 21:06:36 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dylan Brown Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:10:26 -0800 Reply-To: dylan@pixar.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Ramp Generator please? Can someone please take me off this list? Thanks, Dylan --X-From_: access-list-return-830-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Wed Jan 19 22:15:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:19:28 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: re: Ramp Generator please? To: access-list@teklab.com Paul Nagle wrote: > >Have you considered using LFOs in envelope mode to achieve this? > Hey Paul, I came home just to check out this one. Wow it's been staring at me for a week. Sometimes an easy to use synth make me miss cool little things like this. Same thing happened to me with my Nord Micro Modular. LFO's Env mode does much more than I wanted! I feel like I found US$500 hidden in my pocket. Thanks!!! norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-833-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 00:10:16 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:14:34 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: WOOOOOOOPS? >It was only the ZIP file that was not correct. The stand-alone First300.mid was revision b. >The ZIP file is correct now. Aha, that explains why the bugs were fixed... I thought I was going crazy: hearing that I had the old one while all bugs were fixed anyway. :) I had downloaded the midi file! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-834-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 00:54:06 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "efx" To: Subject: effects VIRUS-b OS3 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:55:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Eighty-two (80 + 2!) simultaneous effects (5 individual effects in 16 Multiparts, 32-Band-Vocoder, Stereo-Delay) I have read this in the Access web, Virus-b OS3, can anybody tell me what kind of effects have the virus-b and what quality have (sorry by my poor english) THANKS I–aki X-From_: access-list-return-835-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 01:26:14 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 01:30:33 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: effects VIRUS-b OS3 Hi Efx, The fx on the Virus are mostly sound-designing effects, ranging from vocoder to delay to chorus to a wooooonderful phaser, useful distortion models etc etc. All of them are VERY useful! The quality is very good for the phaser and distortion, but the chorus has always caused me phasing problems (which became obvious when switching my mixes to mono)... it's possible that I should tweak the chorus more though. 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See you next time. 8th Street Music Weekly Specials http://www.8thstreet.comX-From_: access-list-return-844-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 13:28:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Joe Frost" To: Subject: RE: Future Music and Access Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 01:18:47 -0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Check Paul's favourable review on SOS Feb2000 for the b/kb. I would like to add... Of every synth that I have ever used or owned, the Virus b is without doubt, the most complete, musically useable and beautiful sounding bar none. The time taken to complete a track has been reduced considerably since getting the Virus, and the tracks sound better than ever. It represents a near perfect balance between sonic flexibility, and hands on control, a definite 'best in class'. The fact that FM show little interest in it only serves to illustrate the point that SOS is a vastly superior piece of literature. Much respect to Access, SOS and all other 'in the know'. Joe Hijackers > >In a message dated 1/20/00 7:22:13 AM, Tugrul wrote: > >>I wonder the problem in between Access and Future Music. FM never mention Access Virus in their review. They always talk about Novation products. I guess FM behaviour is little bit subjective. What you think about? > >I always thought this was insane myself. I know it is all a matter of opinion, but how they could have slighted the Virus as much as they did is >beyond me. It's simply one of the best synths I have ever owned. X-From_: access-list-return-838-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 02:28:27 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: clockwork@pop.bvl.net Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:34:42 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Cam Subject: Re: Fwd: 8th Street Music Weekly Specials - 01/19/00 Ack! I've been spammed! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ check out the freon website at www.mp3.com/freon join the freon mailing list by replying to this mail and saying you want to =:-|=X-From_: access-list-return-839-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 03:42:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Ramp Generator please? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:45:46 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi people, >Now back to the topic. To the Virus programmer(s), would it be possible if you will add one or two bi-polar ramp generators to the Modulation Matrix source? Hmmm yeah. You can use the LFOs in envelope mode, but they're not hugely flexible. I'd like an extra envelope for modulation control. With extra control functionality. An initial level... a delay... attack to another spec'd level & decay... sustain level... fade up or down from sustain... release & maybe release level. Of course there are no knobs on the current Virii for this. Which is why the next Virus will use a Envelope Stage selector in combination with time & level knobs. Maybe the next V... will offer *two* such modulation envelopes in addition to Amp & Filter envs. Maybe Amp & Filter envs will offer 'simple' env setup as well as such extensive control... Or am I dreaming of a Nord Modular? Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-840-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 08:17:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: akyuz@mimoza.rnd.netas.com.tr Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:25:34 +0200 From: Tugrul Akyuz Organization: NETAS To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Future Music and Access Hi, I wonder the problem in between Access and Future Music. FM never mention Access Virus in their review. They always talk about Novation products. I guess FM behaviour is little bit subjective. What you think about? Sincerly TugrulX-From_: access-list-return-841-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 09:27:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:34:51 +0100 From: Rudolf Lindner Organization: F&F Computer Anwendungen und Unternehmensberatung GmbH X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Stay away, evil SPAM Jay, pls. help SLAK305@aol.com wrote: > blah, blah ....X-From_: access-list-return-856-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 17:12:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:22:16 +0200 From: Tom Shear Reply-To: tshear@radius.lenfest.com Organization: Production To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Future Music and Access X-Priority: 3 (Normal) cerberus@moral.decay.net wrote: >Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but there just aren't many places that >care the virus exists. News and review sites (www.harmony-central.com, > >www.sonicstate.com, to name a few.) simply don't mention the virus, and >when it is mentioned it refers to an old version of the software. The odd >part is that other "small companies" get way more press than access does. >(A question for access:) Do you write up anything like a press release to >send out when you do somthign major like OS3? I think reminding people you >exist would be a good thing. :) >Also, as we all are zelots when it comes to our precious synth, I think >the user comunity should be more active in getting the word out... post >reviews on the sites, etc... > Then again, I am not particularly upset if not everyone and their mother knows about the Virus... sort of a 'secret weapon' if you will. I do want the company to prosper though... companies with Access' attention to customer feedback are sorely needed.X-From_: access-list-return-842-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 11:20:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:13:52 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Virus Patches At 2:00 PM +0000 on 18.01.2000 Joe Frost wrote: On an entirely separate note, does anyone know if there will be support for the Virus b in SoundDiver or MIDIQuest? It would be great to have a random-patch-variation tool for the Virus (I know someone made a Logic Env for this but we missed out as we're all Cubase boys). I am sure there will be a SoundDiver adaptation and yes it was me who made the Logic environment, I will promise to update it to virus b as soon as I get my Virus kb (which I was told should be Real Soon Now...) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-843-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 12:54:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: TomShear@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:58:44 EST Subject: Re: Future Music and Access To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 1/20/00 7:22:13 AM, Tugrul wrote: >I wonder the problem in between Access and Future Music. FM never mention Access Virus in their review. They always talk about Novation products. I guess FM behaviour is little bit subjective. What you think about? I always thought this was insane myself. I know it is all a matter of opinion, but how they could have slighted the Virus as much as they did is beyond me. It's simply one of the best synths I have ever owned.X-From_: access-list-return-848-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 14:33:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: torsten@mail.projector.se Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:37:08 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: torsten edwinson Subject: Powersuply to the virus X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: torsten@projector.se Hi everyone! I'm new in this list and wanted to ask you about how to find a replacement for the powersuply to the Virus 2 kb. Can someone help me out? Thanks, Torsten of Masada http://masada.cjb.net torsten edwinson . creative developer p r o j e c t o r p n m a b . karlavŠgen 58 . 114 49 stockholm phone +46 8 562 15 446 fax +46 8 562 15 401 cellular +46 70 237 237 3 torsten@projector.se http://www.projector.seX-From_: access-list-return-849-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 15:00:34 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:04:46 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: Future Music and Access To: access-list@teklab.com --- TomShear@aol.com wrote: >>I wonder the problem in between Access and Future >Music. >>FM never mention Access Virus in their review. They >always talk about >>Novation products. I guess FM behaviour is little >bit subjective. >>What you think about? I think FM aims heavily at bedroom musicians and beginners. Because I notice that most of the gear they often talk about are either good bang for the buck (all in one stuff) or really easy to use or learn to use. (Of which is not a bad thing.) So I think they don't wanna bother talking about the Virus because, roughly speaking, it's too sophisicated compared to, say, Nova. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-850-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 15:08:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Joe Frost" To: Subject: RE: Future Music and Access Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:12:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal >I think FM aims heavily at bedroom musicians and beginners. Because I notice that most of the gear they often talk about are either good bang for the buck (all in one stuff) or really easy to use or learn to use. (Of which is not a bad thing.) So I think they don't wanna bother talking about the Virus because, roughly speaking, it's too sophisicated compared to, say, Nova. It does have to be said though, that compared to the Nova, the Virus b represents very good value for money. Joe HijackersX-From_: access-list-return-851-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 15:13:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:19:15 +0100 From: Nico Grubert X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: a new virus user Hi guys, this is nico from berlin, and since yesterday I own the virus a ! yeahhhh ! the greatest synth I have ever used. regards nicoX-From_: access-list-return-852-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 16:43:02 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Mark Holloway" From: "Mark Holloway" To: "Access List" Subject: Tip/Tricks/Hints Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:46:46 -0800 X-Priority: 3 I'm fairly new to the music world..well, the VA world anyway. When I was a little kid I took private keyboard lessons and from middle school thru high school I played drums. In high school it was all about alternative/rock, but in 1994 I devloped much more interest in techno/trance and some slower grooves like Morcheeba, Massive Attack, and Lamb. So now you know my flavor! Here is one of my questions about the Virus..is it a modeling synth like the AN1x....where you start with a basic "bleep" sound and build from there? Or do you build of the built in sounds, layer, and store them? Thanks, MarkX-From_: access-list-return-853-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 16:53:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:58:04 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Re: Tip/Tricks/Hints At 07:46 20.01.00 -0800, you wrote: >Here is one of my questions about the Virus..is it a modeling synth like the AN1x....where you start with a basic "bleep" sound and build from there? Or do you build of the built in sounds, layer, and store them? You can do it however you like it. You can start programming your own sounds from the beginning (the "start" or "init" sound) or you can change the already available soundprograms to your own flavour and store them. The Virus is a modeling synth. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-854-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 16:55:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: , "Mark Holloway" Subject: Re: Tip/Tricks/Hints Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:00:19 -0600 X-Priority: 3 You can build sounds from scratch, or you can modify the presets. You can use the multimode to layer them. I believe patch # 127 of bank C is the "Start" program. It is a raw sawtooth with osc balance all the way to osc 1. You can build any sound the Virus is capable of by beginning with this patch. Keep in mind, some of the better patches require care and creativity. Rick >Here is one of my questions about the Virus..is it a modeling synth like the >AN1x....where you start with a basic "bleep" sound and build from there? Or >do you build of the built in sounds, layer, and store them? > >Thanks, >Mark > > X-From_: access-list-return-855-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 17:06:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:27:16 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Future Music and Access Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but there just aren't many places that care the virus exists. News and review sites (www.harmony-central.com, www.sonicstate.com, to name a few.) simply don't mention the virus, and when it is mentioned it refers to an old version of the software. The odd part is that other "small companies" get way more press than access does. (A question for access:) Do you write up anything like a press release to send out when you do somthign major like OS3? I think reminding people you exist would be a good thing. :) Also, as we all are zelots when it comes to our precious synth, I think the user comunity should be more active in getting the word out... post reviews on the sites, etc... On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 TomShear@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 1/20/00 7:22:13 AM, Tugrul wrote: > >>I wonder the problem in between Access and Future Music. FM never mention Access Virus in their review. They always talk about Novation products. I guess FM behaviour is little bit subjective. What you think about? > >I always thought this was insane myself. I know it is all a matter of opinion, but how they could have slighted the Virus as much as they did is beyond me. It's simply one of the best synths I have ever owned. X-From_: access-list-return-857-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 17:38:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Mark Holloway" From: "Mark Holloway" To: "Access List" Subject: Midiman Thru 3x8 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:37:18 -0800 X-Priority: 3 [Sorry for being O/T] I'm pisseed! I spent $80 on a Midiman Thru 3x8 so I wouldn't have to daisy chain my Midi equipment. I have spent lots of money on professional equipment and cables for a clean sound, but as soon as I push the power button to turn it on, any device that is plugged in to the Midiman creates a humming noise through my speakers. It's not real loud, but enough to make it pointless to have the rest of my equipment be clean and professional. Is ths Midiman just a cheap knock-off piece of crap? Or am I doing something wrong? The guy at Guitar Center said it would be fine...bah!! I have a Nord Lead 2, Access Virus, RM1x, Access Virus, Electribe-R, and Mackie 1202..as soon as I connect the midi into the Midiman it hisses/hums, but if I daisy chain instead of using the Midiman, no hissing or humming! The Midiman 3x8 does use a power supply. Thanks, MarkX-From_: access-list-return-858-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 17:52:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: , "Mark Holloway" Subject: Re: Midiman Thru 3x8 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:56:10 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Mark, As far as MidiMan products go, I needed to get my gear talking to the sequencer, and since I'm new at this I didn't want to get a larger box than what I need, so I bought the Midiman USB MidiSport 2x2, and it was working in 20 min and no weird humming is introduced into my sound. My friend is getting a large motu so he's giving he his MidiSport so I'll have more ins/outs. He saw that I got it set up myself (which is a big feat for me and music gear/software... tho I'm not an idiot, the music world is just so abnormal in interfaces and ease of use stuff... That is why I RAVE about the Virus manual and UI, it's pretty damn good with the limitations they have of that small screen... and I'm a UI designer and I rip apart everything from my 3000GT's stink'n interface (dash) to doors that open backwards.) Anyway, if all MidiSport products are as easy as this to setup, and as reliable as this little yellow shit is, I'm gonna keep buying their products. Kintama -----Original Message----- From: Mark Holloway To: Access List Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:43 AM Subject: Midiman Thru 3x8 >[Sorry for being O/T] > >I'm pisseed! I spent $80 on a Midiman Thru 3x8 so I wouldn't have to daisy chain my Midi equipment. I have spent lots of money on professional equipment and cables for a clean sound, but as soon as I push the power button to turn it on, any device that is plugged in to the Midiman creates a >humming noise through my speakers. It's not real loud, but enough to make it >pointless to have the rest of my equipment be clean and professional. Is ths Midiman just a cheap knock-off piece of crap? Or am I doing something wrong? The guy at Guitar Center said it would be fine...bah!! I have a Nord Lead 2, Access Virus, RM1x, Access Virus, Electribe-R, and Mackie 1202..as soon as I connect the midi into the Midiman it hisses/hums, but if I daisy chain instead of using the Midiman, no hissing or humming! The Midiman 3x8 does use a power supply. > >Thanks, >Mark > > X-From_: access-list-return-859-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 17:57:59 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:04:21 +0100 From: Nico Grubert X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Midiman Thru 3x8 I own the midiman 4x2 with 4 midi-outs and 2 midi-ins and everything works fine. i have midi-out 1 connected to the virus, 2 to the esi-4000, 3 to the waldorf pulse+ . regards nicoX-From_: access-list-return-860-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 18:17:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:21:02 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: Access List , Mark Holloway Subject: Re: Midiman Thru 3x8 I have a friend who has been through two different Midiman products, and he sent them both back for various reasons. Then again, see if you can get rid of the hum by plugging everything into the same outlet/power strip. Moho On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Mark Holloway wrote: >[Sorry for being O/T] > >I'm pisseed! I spent $80 on a Midiman Thru 3x8 so I wouldn't have to daisy chain my Midi equipment. I have spent lots of money on professional equipment and cables for a clean sound, but as soon as I push the power button to turn it on, any device that is plugged in to the Midiman creates a humming noise through my speakers. It's not real loud, but enough to make it pointless to have the rest of my equipment be clean and professional. Is ths Midiman just a cheap knock-off piece of crap? Or am I doing something wrong? The guy at Guitar Center said it would be fine...bah!! I have a Nord Lead 2, Access Virus, RM1x, Access Virus, Electribe-R, and Mackie 1202..as soon as I connect the midi into the Midiman it hisses/hums, but if I daisy chain instead of using the Midiman, no hissing or humming! The Midiman 3x8 does use a power supply. > >Thanks, >Mark > X-From_: access-list-return-861-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 18:40:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:44:20 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: effects VIRUS-b OS3 >>The quality is very good for the phaser and distortion, but the chorus has always caused me phasing problems (which became obvious when switching my mixes to mono)... it's possible that I should tweak the chorus more though. > >What problems???? >When you switch to mono, you simply have two choruses on the same line. The phasing is the Chorus, and not a problem. :-) You should have similar effects, if you switch to mono, while the Unison mode is active. Very correct!!! Exactly why I don't use those two features. :-))) Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-862-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 18:41:37 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:45:42 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: Future Music and Access To: access-list@teklab.com I think most people think the Virus is some sort of "noise-maker/special effects" synth.....A salesman at mars was asking me about it, and I mentioned the great online support and the versatility of the virus and his eyes lit up.....support seems to be an important issue for alot of people....he said he was eyeballing the supernova, but I swayed him to the darkside.....my only request is that if you advertise the virus more, don't cheese out and go for the candy raver kids.....put some pokemon or naked women in the ads.....or both....kids AND adults like Pokemon......and naked women..... Gel-Sol --- cerberus@moral.decay.net wrote: > >Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but there just aren't many places that >care the virus exists. News and review sites (www.harmony-central.com, >www.sonicstate.com, to name a few.) simply don't mention the virus, and >when it is mentioned it refers to an old version of the software. The odd >part is that other "small companies" get way more press than access does. >(A question for access:) Do you write up anything like a press release to >send out when you do somthign major like OS3? I think reminding people you >exist would be a good thing. :) >Also, as we all are zelots when it comes to our precious synth, I think >the user comunity should be more active in getting the word out... post >reviews on the sites, etc... > >On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 TomShear@aol.com wrote: > >> >>In a message dated 1/20/00 7:22:13 AM, Tugrul >wrote: >> >>>I wonder the problem in between Access and Future >Music. >>>FM never mention Access Virus in their review. >They always talk about >>>Novation products. I guess FM behaviour is >little bit subjective. >>>What you think about? >> >>I always thought this was insane myself. I know >it is all a matter of >>opinion, but how they could have slighted the >Virus as much as they did is >>beyond me. It's simply one of the best synths I >have ever owned. >> > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-863-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 18:43:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: , "Mark Holloway" Subject: Re: Midiman Thru 3x8 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:48:14 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Sounds like a Ground Loop. Is the power supply three prong? If so, try plugging it in at different locations (I.e different wall sockets, etc.) Your other option is to get a ground lift adapter. It's the little thing that turns a three prong to a two prong. If it is a two prong any way, then this second option will not work. At least try it plugged in at different locations... Rick > >I'm pisseed! I spent $80 on a Midiman Thru 3x8 so I wouldn't have to daisy chain my Midi equipment. I have spent lots of money on professional equipment and cables for a clean sound, but as soon as I push the power button to turn it on, any device that is plugged in to the Midiman creates a >humming noise through my speakers. It's not real loud, but enough to make it >pointless to have the rest of my equipment be clean and professional. Is ths Midiman just a cheap knock-off piece of crap? Or am I doing something wrong? The guy at Guitar Center said it would be fine...bah!! I have a Nord Lead 2, Access Virus, RM1x, Access Virus, Electribe-R, and Mackie 1202..as soon as I connect the midi into the Midiman it hisses/hums, but if I daisy chain instead of using the Midiman, no hissing or humming! The Midiman 3x8 does use a power supply. > >Thanks, >MarkX-From_: access-list-return-864-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 18:48:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Future Music and Access Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:53:46 -0600 X-Priority: 3 I like naked women :-) put some pokemon or naked women in the >ads.....or both....kids AND adults like Pokemon......and naked women..... > >Gel-Sol X-From_: access-list-return-865-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 18:53:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Mark Holloway" From: "Mark Holloway" To: Subject: Re: Midiman Thru 3x8 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:57:22 -0800 X-Priority: 3 I think the main difference between the 3x8 and the less expensive ones is that the 3x8 uses a power supply and the others do not..X-From_: access-list-return-866-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 19:05:13 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Originating-IP: [24.130.45.163] From: "nicholas bennison" To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Where to store patches Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:09:10 PST I have the new OS 3.0 installed on a Virus b, and was wondering where to save my newly created patches to. I remember the instructions say to save it in banks A1-40 as these patches are repeated elsewhere - is this correct? Thanks, Nicholas Bennison ----Original Message Follows---- From: CKe9644719@aol.com Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Future Music and Access Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:32:13 EST In einer eMail vom 20.01.00 08:21:51 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >Hi, >I wonder the problem in between Access and Future Music. FM never mention Access Virus in their review. They did a review for Virus a longer time ago. What review are you talking about? >They always talk about >Novation products. I guess FM behaviour is little bit subjective. What you think about? They did a review, but their opinion about the Virus did not - let's say - "corelate" with all the other reviews made at the same time. As far as I know, they made a comparison between the Virus and the Korg Z1. };-) I heard rumor from people who are related to FM, that they killed the Virus, because we don't set advertisements in their magazine. Hope that's not true. On the other hand it's natural that the british people prefer Novation products; it's a british company, and the Novation products prices are lower in U.K. -Christoph ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com X-From_: access-list-return-867-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 19:08:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "cs" To: Subject: Virus / Multimoog Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:11:52 -0600 X-Priority: 3 I have a question for those old school synth guru's on the list. I have a virus a, and entirely love the sound and flexibility. I have an opportunity to get an old Multimoog. As far as sound quality, would the Multimoog compliment the virus, or can the virus do just about everything the moog can do? Thanks, Chuck.X-From_: access-list-return-868-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 19:12:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: SUBREACT@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:16:17 EST Subject: Re: a new virus user To: access-list@teklab.com welcome nico, into the innercircle... you are now one of us.. =), mattX-From_: access-list-return-869-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 19:42:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Mark Holloway" From: "Mark Holloway" To: "Access List" Subject: 3x8 Thru is working with no hum now. Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:41:58 -0800 X-Priority: 3 After trying a several different plugs in the room where my equipment is, I was able to get rid of the hum. I don't know exactly what the cause of it was, but it's gone now.. Thanks for all the advice!X-From_: access-list-return-870-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 20:29:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hasek To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: RE: Virus / Multimoog X-Originating-IP: 128.100.212.154 If it's a good price, grab it. Those babies are really nice, kind of like a minimoog but with extra goodies. One thing about the moog you will notice, is the difference btween its osc's and filters compared to the virus, and that difference will prevent any redundancy. As long as it's not over a grand, I'd say get it. If its over a grand, don't bother. Peaceout ------Original Message------ From: "cs" To: access-list@teklab.com Sent: January 20, 2000 6:11:52 PM GMT Subject: Virus / Multimoog I have a question for those old school synth guru's on the list. I have a virus a, and entirely love the sound and flexibility. I have an opportunity to get an old Multimoog. As far as sound quality, would the Multimoog compliment the virus, or can the virus do just about everything the moog can do? Thanks, Chuck. ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.comX-From_: access-list-return-871-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 20:53:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:57:24 -0500 (EST) From: Gabe G To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: FutureMusic etc. Hi, just want to throw in my 2 cents regarding FutureMusic: If you want to know how they are going to review a particular product, just check how many ads from the manufacturer appear in the magazine, more ads seems = better review. Future music gave a platinum award to the Akai S5000/6000 samplers, at the time fm reviewed these samplers, they were barely operational due to an extraordinarily buggy OS (many people ended up selling their S5000/6000's because they were so screwed up-- have a look on the Akai web site and notice all the OS updates), there is no way that FM could have given the S5000/6000 the grade it did if it had actually tested out the machines. Future music declared the JP8080 the "best synth ever" in its review... anyone who has heard the virus, the supernova, or the nord 2 knows that this is obviously not even close to the truth. If you want honest reviews and useful information, read Sound on Sound, if you want pictures of ugly models holding synthesizers, and crap CDs, buy Future Music.X-From_: access-list-return-872-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 21:28:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:32:02 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Oscillator modelling To: access-list@teklab.com I am guessing that the Virus produces its oscillators with functions and look up tables. Although I love how they sound to death, I just can't help daydreaming. What if the Virus had an algorithm (or a parameter) that added trivial imperfection to the waveforms? I just love how real (old) VCOs sound (especially for the Korg Mono/Poly). They sound so lively even in the rawest form. Somebody claims that Waldorf Q uses physical modelling of VCO on their waveforms. I really doubt it because those Q oscillators just don't sound imperfect. Anybody any thoughts? norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-873-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 21:52:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:56:24 -0600 X-Priority: 3 It has been stated by Wolfram (Waldorf dude) on the waldorf user forum that the Q osc is modeled after the circutry of one of their synths. The only real candidate would have to be the Pulse, though, that has not actually been stated. Rick > >Somebody claims that Waldorf Q uses physical modelling of VCO on their waveforms. I really doubt it because those Q oscillators just don't sound imperfect. Anybody any thoughts? > >norsezX-From_: access-list-return-874-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 22:00:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:05:02 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com CC: Mark Holloway Subject: Re: Midiman Thru 3x8 >>equipment and cables for a clean sound, but as soon as I push the power button to turn it on, any device that is plugged in to the Midiman creates a humming noise through my speakers. It's not real loud, but enough to make it pointless to have the rest of my equipment be clean and professional. Is most likely it's the power supply for the midiman. unless there's a MIDI "hum" controller I don't know about... try either: 1) exchanging your midiman 2) plugging it into a different electrical circuit in your house 3) plugging it into a different power strip than the rest of your gear good luck zsX-From_: access-list-return-875-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 22:04:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:08:31 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling you could get an "imperfect" sort of sound by putting one or more LFOs into "Sample and Glide" mode, and having that modulate some aspect of the oscillators (detune, pulse width, volume, etc, etc, etc) in a slight manner. =zs Norsez Orankijanan wrote: > >I am guessing that the Virus produces its oscillators with functions and look up tables. Although I love how they sound to death, I just can't help daydreaming. What if the Virus had an algorithm (or a parameter) that added trivial imperfection to the waveforms? I just love how real (old) VCOs sound (especially for the Korg Mono/Poly). They sound so lively even in the rawest form. > >Somebody claims that Waldorf Q uses physical modelling of VCO on their waveforms. I really doubt it because those Q oscillators just don't sound imperfect. Anybody any thoughts? > >norsez >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================X-From_: access-list-return-876-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 22:38:46 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:43:04 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >I just love how real (old) VCOs sound (especially for the Korg Mono/Poly). They sound so lively even in the rawest form. I too love the Mono/poly. Being that you are a Mono/poly lover, you simply MUST visit my Mono/poly page: www.kiva.net/~dob/mono/mono.html Sorry for the shameless plug, just had to do it... MohoX-From_: access-list-return-877-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 20 23:27:53 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:32:12 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling To: access-list@teklab.com Zack, I doubt that those techniques can achieves the emulation of imperfect characteristic of VCOs. (Detune will just detune the osc's frequency. Pulse width will only vary the pulse width. Volume will do only with the amplitude. etc.) Let's say if you wanna make a saw wave to have this imperfection. The shape of the saw must be different each time. These shape variations occurs with a period of a wave form. But modulating the frequency and amplitude of an osc won't vary the wave shape ove time and therefore won't achieve this effect, I am afraid. norsez --- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >you could get an "imperfect" sort of sound by putting one or more LFOs >into "Sample and Glide" mode, and having that modulate some aspect of >the oscillators (detune, pulse width, volume, etc, etc, etc) in a slight >manner. > >=zs > >Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >> >>I am guessing that the Virus produces its >oscillators >>with functions and look up tables. Although I love >how >>they sound to death, I just can't help >daydreaming. >>What if the Virus had an algorithm (or a >parameter) >>that added trivial imperfection to the waveforms? >I >>just love how real (old) VCOs sound (especially >for >>the Korg Mono/Poly). They sound so lively even in >the >>rawest form. >> >>Somebody claims that Waldorf Q uses physical >modelling >>of VCO on their waveforms. I really doubt it >because >>those Q oscillators just don't sound imperfect. Anybody any thoughts? >> >>norsez >>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com > >-- > ------------------------------------------------------ >Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo >408.530.5372 > ====================================================== > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-878-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 00:03:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:25:35 -0600 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling The best way to pull this off would be to have an "oscallator shape" parameter and then modulate it to achive the "random" effect. But the big questions is: algorythmically speaking, what is "oscallator shape"? The devil is in the details to to speak. One that I thought of a while ago (I'm taking classes on signal processing purelly so I can make my own synth... call me a loser.) would be have a time distortion on the osc. Essentially, you can go fast and slow down and get a "bulging" saw, or go slow then speed up to get a "dipping" saw. I think the "shape" param on the JP-8000 achives the same effect. For it to work the best, the ammount of time distorting would be locked at the begining of each cycle. However, for a real mindfuck would be to have varrying algoryms for the speed changes. I'm a bit clueless on how FM works, is this redundant or could it be shoehorned in? On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >Zack, > >I doubt that those techniques can achieves the emulation of imperfect characteristic of VCOs. (Detune will just detune the osc's frequency. Pulse width will only vary the pulse width. Volume will do only with the amplitude. etc.) > >Let's say if you wanna make a saw wave to have this imperfection. The shape of the saw must be different each time. These shape variations occurs with a period of a wave form. But modulating the frequency and amplitude of an osc won't vary the wave shape ove time and therefore won't achieve this effect, I am afraid. > >norsez > >--- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >>you could get an "imperfect" sort of sound by putting one or more LFOs >>into "Sample and Glide" mode, and having that modulate some aspect of >>the oscillators (detune, pulse width, volume, etc, etc, etc) in a slight >>manner. >> >>=zs >> >>Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >>> >>>I am guessing that the Virus produces its >>oscillators >>>with functions and look up tables. Although I love >>how >>>they sound to death, I just can't help >>daydreaming. >>>What if the Virus had an algorithm (or a >>parameter) >>>that added trivial imperfection to the waveforms? >>I >>>just love how real (old) VCOs sound (especially >>for >>>the Korg Mono/Poly). They sound so lively even in >>the >>>rawest form. >>> >>>Somebody claims that Waldorf Q uses physical >>modelling >>>of VCO on their waveforms. I really doubt it >>because >>>those Q oscillators just don't sound imperfect. Anybody any thoughts? >>> >>>norsez >>>__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >>>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com >> >>-- >> >------------------------------------------------------ >>Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo >>408.530.5372 >> >====================================================== >> >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com X-From_: access-list-return-882-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 01:54:25 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:59:00 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: Oscillator Modeling To: access-list@teklab.com Musing is kind of fun. I am another person who is thinking of taking a DSP class to make my own synth. (Me loser #2). To me, oscillator shape is defined by a shape a curve in one cycle. Say, if you grap your graphing calculator and input y=sin(x), where -1 < y < 1 and 0 < x < 2*pi. The result you see in the calculator is an oscillator shape. This is what happens once in 1 second^(-1). I am guessing that the Virus is using some kind of lookup table to generate the oscillator. So the waveform will be exactly the same in each of every cycles over time. I think, in order to create more liveliness, the randomness should be applied to the shape of each of these minute cycles to create trivial imperfection of oscillator. (Wow, I guess we would need lot of processing power for doing that!) norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-883-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 01:59:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:03:27 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling >I doubt that those techniques can achieves the emulation of imperfect characteristic of VCOs. (Detune will just detune the osc's frequency. Pulse width will only vary the pulse width. Volume will do only with the amplitude. etc.) right but if you do a lot of little, different modulations (maybe with the filter too), the effect could _approach_ that of an imperfect oscillator. I know it will never be the *same*, but I'm just working with the tools I have available. -zsX-From_: access-list-return-884-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 03:10:48 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:15:19 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: Oscillator Modeling To: access-list@teklab.com Zack, Don't get me wrong. I am not after exact replica of VCO characteristics or anything. It's just that there are no modulation tools (even on real analog modular systems) can have any effect on the shape trivial variation of an oscillator. To illustrate my point, this is my (crappy) diagram http://www.geocities.com/norsez/imperfect.jpg Figure 1: Three samples at different time of an osc generated with a look up table. They are exactly the same every time you sample. Figure 2: Play this oscillator at low pitch. Figure 3: Play this osc at an higher pitch. The frequecy is increased. If an LFO is applied on the osc's pitch, the frequency (pitch) of the wave will vary to the degree of the LFO. Figure 4: Three samples at different time of the same waveform as Figure 1 when added with trivial imperfection. Note that now the shape are not exactly the same every time you take sample. Figure 5: Imperfect waveform played at the same pitch as in Figure 2. Imagine what it would sound like compared to Figure 2. As you can see no LFO or envelope can create any imperfection on a waveshape. I hope this helps illustrate my point clearer. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-885-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 03:27:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:30:27 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi Norsez, >What if the Virus had an algorithm (or a parameter) that added trivial imperfection to the waveforms? I just love how real (old) VCOs sound (especially for the Korg Mono/Poly). They sound so lively even in the rawest form. Yeah, a selection of Osc models, or parameters to tweak them, could be very cool. Same for filter models... Obviously smooth transition / automation between different Osc or Filter models would consume DSP. But a static selection would be fine, like the waves in the wavetable are switched rather than smoothly merged. Question about FM : the Virus always applies FM using a triangle wave, regardless of what Osc 1 actually produces. Would other waves sound significantly different? Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-886-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 03:33:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:38:11 -0800 Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling From: Shehryar Lasi To: on 1/20/00 6:30 PM, Thomas Whitmore at thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz wrote: >Question about FM : the Virus always applies FM using a triangle wave, regardless of what Osc 1 actually produces. Would other waves sound significantly different? Yes, just listen to a Nord Lead. -ShehryarX-From_: access-list-return-887-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 03:43:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:51:47 -0500 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Future Music and Access i dont own a virus yet but it's gonna be my next synth for sure. i am glad all the big stores shy away from the virus... the virus is like owning a underground synth. the badman. the underdog.... so keep the pokemon,naked chicks and pepsi ads off the virus and for god's sake don't let anyone know where to buy one..... maybe in ten years we will be able to sell ours for twice their worth?!.X-From_: access-list-return-888-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 04:05:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:09:19 EST Subject: Re: Future Music and Access To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << maybe in ten years we will be able to sell ours for twice their worth?!. >> sorry but that's just not going to happen once the new Access Finalizer comes out. Its not very easy to create a digital product that won't be obsolete within a couple of years, err year, even with gear as expensive as the Waldorf Wave (though the interface is usually cut down on to save costs). *Automated* mixers have been around for awhile now, and we even see automated synths! Imagine the knobs on a Virus synth being automated. Wow! later, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-889-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 04:18:55 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:22:55 EST Subject: Re: Virus Patches To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << We've already tweaked about 30 patches for various tracks that we're working on and have found ourselves making extensive use of the Virus already, but we'd love to trade patches with other people working on the same type of stuff. >> Why don't you upload some of these patches to our lovely "Access User Forum"? Eat your hearts out Waldorf... Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-890-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 04:25:48 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Virus knobs; Patch dump wish Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:28:54 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi Shawn, >*Automated* mixers have been around for awhile now, and we even see automated synths! Imagine the knobs on a Virus synth being automated. Wow! All of the Virus's parameters are automatable by MIDI. But the knobs are not motor-driven... that would require big heavy hardware. I didn't mind the idea of the AN1X, push the knob to find out where it is... though in practice it's pretty easy to grab a V knob & then turn it back to original value... When using Filter knobs Res / Env / Keyfollow with both filters selected, only one 'original' value is displayed. If the filters originally had differing values, we should see something to indicate that they must be restored individually. And thinking about this, I've come up with a couple of wishes : I'd like to dump & restore single patches by MIDI, so that the dumped values are considered as 'original'. Without writing patch memory, I'd like to know what the 'original' values of my *dump* were so I can restore if I tweak. I'd also like direct access to the 'Dump Single' function, using the Store key. I store customized patches in my sequencer, more often than I store into the Virus patch memory. Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-891-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 04:33:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:37:11 EST Subject: Re: Virus knobs; Patch dump wish To: access-list@teklab.com << All of the Virus's parameters are automatable by MIDI. But the knobs are not motor-driven... that would require big heavy hardware. >> um, duh? hehe http://www.touched-by-sound.com/ Have you seen the new synth by Touched On Sound? I think its called the Mephisto...if this is the one I'm thinking of, its fully automated with *motors*! Should be expensive but it will kick our ass (hopefully soundwise too). Thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-892-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 04:38:01 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:41:58 EST Subject: Future Music and Supernova/Nova 2 To: access-list@teklab.com hi, Speaking of FM, they do have some new info on a Nova 2 / Supernova 2 (taken from Gas-Station)...guess they have it first cause they helped hype the machine so much: Performance capabilities are the major selling point of the new breed, which include the Supernova II (and Pro, and Pro X) and the Nova II (and, imaginatively enough, the II X and II XL). Editing is a piece of the proverbial, with the Supernova models offering a control surface consisting of no less than 43 knobs, eight sliders, and 135 switches. Editing bliss! Add to that the 24 voices on board (expandable to 36 and 48, which is also the remit of the II Pro and II Pro X respectively). Most importantly though (and the most obvious difference between this and the original) is the fact that the Supernova II and the Nova II both sport a keyboard, giving you instant access to the brilliant range of sounds and effects inside these delectable instrument. Saying that though, it's clear from the outset that this new pair are much more than just keyboard versions of the original Nova and Supernova models. There have been various enhancements of the existing features and a few more sounds... although we've not been told exactly what yet. Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-893-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 05:25:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: Virus knobs; Patch dump wish Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:18:27 +1300 X-Priority: 3 >Have you seen the new synth by Touched On Sound? I think its called the Mephisto... >http://www.touched-by-sound.com/ It looks big and probably is heavy :-) Actually, if the value of the knobs can be shown on a display as well as heard, and the knob's physical position is not important to begin tweaking, there is little need for a motor to physically move the knob. Important knob functionality is : 1) Knowing what current value is 2) Adjusting up/ down from current value 3) Restoring to original value All of which can be achieved by continuous rotary encoder with some kind of push action. Click to see value on screen, double-click to revert to original value? Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-894-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 06:11:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:15:55 EST Subject: Re: Virus knobs; Patch dump wish To: access-list@teklab.com hi Thomas, I agree with you that its not needed, and it adds a considerable bit in apparant costs, but you have to admit its pretty damn cool! Shawn shawnclear@aol.com NP: Apop Berzerk "Eclipse"X-From_: access-list-return-895-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 07:23:22 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: FutureMusic etc. Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:28:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 > >Future music declared the JP8080 the "best synth ever" in its review... anyone who has heard the virus, the supernova, or the nord 2 knows that this is obviously not even close to the truth. > Wooooooow - STOP THE BUS!!! You are not going to diss my JP8080. (I know I did it on occation myself...) but after getting myself a VIRUS-b (6-8 weeks ago) I started re-looking at the JP8080, and MY DEAR, it has got balls... So much so, that I need to keep on turning the bottom-end down. I have had a lot of equipment thru my hands over the last 16years, and I can say without loosing a beat that the JP8080 has the most bottom-end I have EVER heard on a synth. The point is you have to tweak it to get to the nice sounds (which I would NEVER have done if I did not get a VIRUS-b). Granted the VURUS-b is by far a better thought-out machine, BUT every sound that can be created on the VIRUS-b can be created on the JP8080. Yes, Roland is main-stream and yes, the TB303 was thought out by them and yes all 909/808/303 type sounds was created by them first and yes EVERY ONE OF US IS USING AT LEAST ONE OF THESE SOUNDS in our daily composition. If you don't understand it, don't diss it... Excuse my ranting, but I can not stand narrow-mindedness... (Not that I am calling you narrow-minded, it is all in the approuch to a machine...) It is just as easy to create good music on a MC303 as it is creating bad music on a VIRUS. After all, I bought a VIRUS because of the sound creation engine and the awesome user-interface. I bought a JP8080 because of the presets... cyber7 (Aubrey)X-From_: access-list-return-896-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 08:34:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Gabe" To: Subject: Re: FutureMusic etc. Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 02:38:16 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Aubrey wrote: >Wooooooow - STOP THE BUS!!! You are not going to diss my JP8080. (I know I >did it on occation myself...) but after getting myself a VIRUS-b (6-8 weeks >ago) I started re-looking at the JP8080, and MY DEAR, it has got balls... So much so, that I need to keep on turning the bottom-end down. I have had >a lot of equipment thru my hands over the last 16years, and I can say without loosing a beat that the JP8080 has the most bottom-end I have EVER heard on a synth. SNIP Err, so let me get this straight, because the JP8080 does a good job of generating frequencies below 200hz it is therefore the "Best Synth Ever" as declared by Future Music? Give me a F!#&ing break. I never said the JP8080 is crap, since its not, but it certainly isn't close to being the "Best Synth Ever" as future music declared it to be. Hell, even the readers of Future Music ended up ignoring Future Music's advice (Future Music suggested that the JP8080 should win its annual synth of the year poll) and voting the Novation Supernova the Future Music synth of the year.X-From_: access-list-return-897-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 08:43:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 02:48:00 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: FutureMusic etc. On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >the VURUS-b is by far a better thought-out machine, BUT every sound that can be created on the VIRUS-b can be created on the JP8080. I find this statement impossible to believe. The Virus has far more capabilities than the 8080. Why did you buy a Virus then if your 8080 could make all the same sounds? MohoX-From_: access-list-return-898-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 09:55:58 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Chicken Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:26:19 +0200 X-Priority: 3 A farmer goes out one day, and buys a brand new stud rooster to copulate with his chickens. The farmer puts the rooster straight in the pen so he can get down to business. The young rooster walks over to the old rooster, and says, "Okay, old fellow, time to retire." The old rooster says, "You can't handle all these chickens ... look at what it did to me!" The young rooster replies, "Don't give me a hassle about this, time for the old to step aside, and the young to take over, so take a hike." The old rooster pleads, "Aw, c'mon ... just let me have the two old hens over in the corner. I won't be a bother to you." To this the young rooster says, "Scram! You're washed up! I'm taking over!" So, the old rooster thinks for a minute, and then says to the young rooster, "I'll tell you what, young fella, I'll have a race with you around the farmhouse. The rooster that wins the race gets domain of the chicken coop. And if I'm so weak and feeble, why not give me a little head start?" The young rooster says, "Sure, why not, I'll still beat you." They line up in back of the farmhouse, get a chicken to cluck, "GO", and the old rooster takes off running. About 15 seconds later the young rooster takes off after him. They round the front of the farmhouse and the young rooster is only about 5 inches behind the old rooster and gaining fast. The farmer, sitting on his porch, looks up, sees what's going on, grabs his shotgun and BOOM!!, he blows the young rooster to KFC heaven. The farmer shakes his head gloomily and says, "Son-of-a bitch ... third gay rooster I bought this week!" Now, you might ask me, what does this have to do with the VIRUS? Just as much as the JP8080/NOVA/FM/SOUN-on-SOUND discussion has to do with the VIRUS does this chicken joke have to do with the VIRUS. The only difference with my post and yours is that mine puts a smile on your dial. Your post makes people (1)Angry (2)Dispondant ... Should I carry on? just my 10c cyber7 (Aubrey) PS - Please excuse my previous mail wrt the JP8080...X-From_: access-list-return-899-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 09:57:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:01:17 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Hi, when dumping OS3.0b to my VIRUS-b, everything gets transferred up to where the VIRUS-b displays "4 61". The dump from my sequencer is complete, but it looks like the VIRUS is still waiting for more info. I have tried this with CAKEWALK, CUBASE and my midi player, with the same resault. Thsi happens with (1)The first 3.0b posted AND (2)The second 3.0b posted by the webmaster and (3)The zip file (marked new on the web page) BUT not on OS 3.0(Original)!!! Please could someone assist me? I am pulling my hair out :)) ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-900-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 10:08:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Envelope Generator" To: Subject: Re: Chicken Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:12:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 :o))) Good joke :o)X-From_: access-list-return-901-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 11:54:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:58:33 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? Play it slowly? Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >Hi, when dumping OS3.0b to my VIRUS-b, everything gets transferred up to where the VIRUS-b displays "4 61". The dump from my sequencer is complete, but it looks like the VIRUS is still waiting for more info. -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-902-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 12:08:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:38:02 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling Why to a nord lead when the virus can do the same ;) Well only the new one . Oli Shehryar Lasi schrieb: >on 1/20/00 6:30 PM, Thomas Whitmore at thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz wrote: > >>Question about FM : the Virus always applies FM using a triangle wave, regardless of what Osc 1 actually produces. Would other waves sound significantly different? > >Yes, just listen to a Nord Lead. > >-ShehryarX-From_: access-list-return-905-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 13:13:39 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:57:02 +0000 From: Paul Nagle Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com Organization: Hardly X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >I am guessing that the Virus produces its oscillators with functions and look up tables. Although I love how they sound to death, I just can't help daydreaming. What if the Virus had an algorithm (or a parameter) that added trivial imperfection to the waveforms? I Hmm, nice idea. I think maybe some new kind of distortion/saturation feature directly after the oscillators and before the filters might be an interesting way to mess with the raw sound. Something like the wavewrapper of the Nord Modular - it needn't necessarily mimic true analogue to be fun. PaulX-From_: access-list-return-903-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 13:01:55 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:06:28 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: FutureMusic etc. To: access-list@teklab.com >On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: > >>the VURUS-b is by far a better thought-out >machine, BUT every sound that can >>be created on the VIRUS-b can be created on the >JP8080. JP8k is no doubt a great synth, but it doesn't create everything you can on the Virus b. The simplest example would be the envelope. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-904-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 13:05:04 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:09:53 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Re: Where to store patches At 10:09 20.01.00 PST, you wrote: >I have the new OS 3.0 installed on a Virus b, and was wondering where to save my newly created patches to. I remember the instructions say to save it in banks A1-40 as these patches are repeated elsewhere - is this correct? Dear Nicholas, This is not correct. You can store your own sounds in Bank A and B - no matter at what place in this banks. The sounds of Bank A 01-40 are a sort of "best of" sounds and they can be found inside the rest of the other soundbanks A41-D128. On the other hand: if you downloaded the 3.0 Zip-File all soundbanks are there as single backup, too, so you can upload them to your Virus whenever you feel like getting back the original sounds. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-907-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 13:28:52 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:19:36 +0000 From: Paul Nagle Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com Organization: Hardly X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Oscillator modelling Shehryar Lasi wrote: >on 1/20/00 6:30 PM, Thomas Whitmore at thomasw@trade-exchange.co.nz wrote: > >>Question about FM : the Virus always applies FM using a triangle wave, regardless of what Osc 1 actually produces. Would other waves sound significantly different? > >Yes, just listen to a Nord Lead. > And an Access Virus "b"... ;-) PaulX-From_: access-list-return-906-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 13:18:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:24:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Even sending it at 40bpm gives me the same result. Can someone from ACCESS please answer me on my question? I have asked this question 4 times and no-one is giving me anything... My point is, if I can dump OS3.0a, why can I not dump 3.0b (Unless there is still a problem in the 3.0b OS and that is why ACCESS is silent on this issue) OS? Has anyone out there got OS3.0b to dump on CPW804? If so, please could you tell me so? I am trying CPW9 over this weekend at the musicstore, I will report back... cyber7 (Aubrey) ----- Original Message ----- From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck >Play it slowly? > >Aubrey Kloppers wrote: > >>Hi, when dumping OS3.0b to my VIRUS-b, everything gets transferred up to where the VIRUS-b displays "4 61". The dump from my sequencer is complete, >>but it looks like the VIRUS is still waiting for more info.X-From_: access-list-return-908-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 14:56:52 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? To: access-list@teklab.com Aubrey, I think you should have a better luck with CW9 if anything. I used it to load revision b and it worked fine. By the way, I think if you wanna contact Access directly, perhaps it's faster to get to them by their email address available on their website. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-909-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 15:06:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: You Know You've Been Hanging Around Synths and Samplers Too Long When: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:10:10 +0100 X-Priority: 3 You Know You've Been Hanging Around Synths and Samplers Too Long When: 1. You not only tap in time to the indicators on your car, but know how many BPM they flash at. 2. You go to hear an orchestra with your girlfriend, and while she listens to the beautiful music, you calculate the polyphony required to reproduce it. 3. You are sure you can hear the looppoints at a choir recital. 4. In addition to your in and out trays at work, you also have one marked 'thru'. 5. Last Christmas you synced your Christmas tree lights to your TB-303. 6. The accelerator on your car has aftertouch. 7. You've dialed the phone number 1-303-808-9091 just to see what happens. 8. Your cat's name is Octave. 9. You've look for a midi in out and thru on a Yamaha motorcycle. 10. You expect the cutoff frequency of your door to change when you turn the knob... 11. You wake up every night at 3:03 AM. (Er..wait a sec...most of us don't go to bed until well past 5...-R) 12. You find an immaculate Moog modular at a garage sale for $500, but you turn it down because the wood is slightly the wrong shade of brown... 13. Your girlfriend/wife drapes a wig over your favourite synth to remind you what she looks like. 14. You step out of your studio and realize that your family moved and you don't have a clue when it happened. 15. You have "Frequency" and "Resonance" tattooed above your nipples. (Don't ask where the pitchbend is...-R) 16. You don't worry about temperature instabilities in your older gear: you never turn it off. 17. Your wife says communication is important in a marriage..so you buy her her own synth and some CV/Gate leads. 18. You hear thunder and sit there marveling at how clean the low pass is. 19. Your daughter's first name is Polly. Her middle name is Six. 20. Your wedding song was "Still..You Turn Me On" 21. Your bathroom library consists entirely of old Keyboard magazines. 22. Your daughter's new boyfriend has tattoos, rides a Harley, and doesn't have a job. But you don't mind because his name is Roland. 23. Your telephone answering-machine message took 2 days to write and produce. 24. There is no couch, coffee table, dinner table or chairs in your appartment; only racks, mixers, keyboards, cables and power cords. 25. You have bass bins for end tables. 26. It is dangerous to walk around in your own living room at night. (See 24) 27. There's a giant yellow ball in the sky, and your not quite sure what it is, but when you go outside it burns out you retinas and makes your skin glow. 28. You can write a "mouth" 303 line over absolutely any beat, from any genre of music. 29. You can effectively scan classifieds/musical instruments in under a minute. 30. You wait until 12:01 A.M. to read the on-line music classified ads. 31. You are best friends with all the owners of pawn shops in your local area, even though you really hate them. 32. When turning the hot / cold knobs on your sink gets exciting. Looking for that "perfect" mix... 33. You never answer the phone. (Hmm...I wonder if it's to get people to listen to the answering message you spent so much time on in 23? -R) 34. Your best friends have knobs and sliders. 35. When all your significant other has to say, "Oh no, not another one" and you know what they're talking about. 36. If you just like to sit in the dark and watch all the pretty lights blink and glow. 37. If you perk-up on Sundays when you hear the word "Prophet". 38. You would rather fiddle with your synthesizer's knobs than fiddle with your girlfriend's/wife's knobs. 39. Somehow, you haven't been able to budget for clothes for 2+ years, but you have found thousands of dollars to buy gear. 40. Your girlfriend/wife goes to bed, You go to your STUDIO. :) 41. Your friends say "Why would you pay $XXX for that piece of crap?" and you glare back and actually get offended... 42. You can tell the difference between 12dB/24dB filters by ear... 43. You prefer "analog" instead of "digital" home appliances because ' they just work better ' 44. A friend tells you about "some old synth" he's had for years. He thinks its a moooooog or whatever, and you go to his house and its just an old pump organ. 45. Working feverishly late in your studio, you convince yourself you can stay awake longer, and maybe get an early night later on. This falls apart around 4PM, and you wake up around 7PM bleary eyed, and realise theres a new cigarette burn on your mixer, the computer crashed 2 hours ago, and you have "GOOMYROMEM" tattoed on your forehead :) 46. You start wondering if you can obtain a 24 db neural implant to filter your ever-increasing tinnitus problem. 47. You devise a method of connecting your CV sequencer to a mains relay to trigger the kettle every 1,024 gate pulses 48. You replace your doorbell/phone ringer with that unwell MC202 you vowed you would fix 11 months ago. At least theres some variety now. 49. Every piece of clothing you own has a synth manufacturers logo on it. You scam them for free every trade show you attend. This allows more money for the important things in life. 50. Your wife/girlfriend leaves you. You go into a depression for a while, then decide you can win her back with a simple, touching and heartfelt song, written especially for her. 6 months later, you are still mixing it. 51. You go to a trade show. You rush over to the brand new synth on display, fiddle for 5 minutes, declare it "a piece of crap" and then go on to tell the company reps how it works, where the PCM samples came from, and offer to do them better samples from your own analog wardrobes, all in a very loud voice. They give you an embroidered tour jacket on the condition that you go away NOW. (see 49) 53. Synth manufacturers call YOU for technical support. 54. First thing you think of after sex is turning on your synths. 55. You're dancing at a party, and all of a sudden you want to go home and try to recreate the 303 line you just heard on a record... on your modular synth. 56. You get excited about talking electronic toys and try to subvert them into saying bad words or doing weird stuff so you can sample them. 57. You dream of finding a $50.00 Moog 55 at a garage sale, and after you've thought of it, you stop at every one you see! 58. You carry around a picture of your modular in your wallet to show everyone. 59. You convince your wife to have your bathroom floor re-tiled in black and white. 60. Your monthly power bill is always in the triple digits. 61. You have a rack-mounted microwave oven. 62. Your neighbors constantly ask your wife about "that noise" coming from your house. 63. Your Doctor is treating you for "2600 elbow" Pieced together from the wisdom of Analogue Heaven, compiled by Rane...X-From_: access-list-return-910-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 15:13:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:12:53 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Thank you very much for your (And everyone at ACCESS) reply. I do think that it is CPW8.04 and will try again with 9. Thanks again cyber7 (Aubrey)X-From_: access-list-return-911-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 15:15:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:18:10 +0100 From: Groove303@t-online.de (Jens Wegerhoff) X-Accept-Language: de,en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? X-Sender: 02267880859-0001@t-dialin.net Hi ! What about trying a demo version of logic or cubase for example? When it works, it«s a sequencer problem.check also the sequencer settings.I«m sure your able to handle with cakewalk,but sometimes you don«t even know if something in the settings have changed. Try the old update procedure.(switch the virus off, restart the virus while pressing store...) stay fresh jens w. Aubrey Kloppers schrieb: > >Even sending it at 40bpm gives me the same result. Can someone from ACCESS please answer me on my question? I have asked this question 4 times and no-one is giving me anything... My point is, if I can dump OS3.0a, why can I not dump 3.0b (Unless there is still a problem in the 3.0b OS and that is why ACCESS is silent on this issue) OS? > >Has anyone out there got OS3.0b to dump on CPW804? If so, please could you tell me so? I am trying CPW9 over this weekend at the musicstore, I will report back... > >cyber7 (Aubrey) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck > >>Play it slowly? >> >>Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >> >>>Hi, when dumping OS3.0b to my VIRUS-b, everything gets transferred up to where the VIRUS-b displays "4 61". The dump from my sequencer is >complete, >>>but it looks like the VIRUS is still waiting for more info.X-From_: access-list-return-912-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 17:40:35 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:44:50 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Chicken On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >does this chicken joke have to do with the VIRUS. The only difference with my post and yours is that mine puts a smile on your dial. Your post makes people (1)Angry (2)Dispondant ... Should I carry on? Well let's see here. Did I say anything inflammatory? No. I asked a question, which you seem to be unable to defend/answer, and instead tell a good joke. I said: "I find this statement impossible to believe." Granted, maybe I should have said "hard" to believe, as I was seeking explanation here... " The Virus has far more capabilities than the 8080." That's a fact... "Why did you buy a Virus then if your 8080 could make all the same sounds?" I really do want to hear how it is you manage to get your 8080 to imitate the virus, I want to hear how you program, I want to hear you say "well I got them both because..." I want to hear you say "well, if you use a band-pass filter on the 8080 you can mimic some settings of the Virus' dual filters..." You know, stuff like that. Didn't mean to upset you, we're all fellow synth heads here, we gotta stick together. So please go into more detail about the relationship of your two synths. I'll end my letter with a smiley face. By the way, that was a good joke...&;^)-~ MohoX-From_: access-list-return-913-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 18:07:17 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:11:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Chicken Cc: access-list@teklab.com I hate to step in here but with the following statement I must take exception: >" The Virus has far more capabilities than the 8080." >That's a fact... And it's not that I don't agree with you that the Virus has more capabilities than the 8080 (I own a JP8K and the Virus kicks its little blue ass). It's just that I find it annoying when on subjective things (of which synthesizers capabilities are - I mean really: define "capabilities" - it's a very subjective thing of which everyone has their own opinion), people starting throwing around words like "fact". You find this "fact" stuff all the time in the PC/Mac debate (god - I'm sorry to bring that up again!). Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.... Peace, Dennis X-From_: access-list-return-914-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 18:45:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:48:56 +0100 From: Guido Storek X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: You Know You've Been Hanging Around Synths and Samplers Too Long ... LOL - that«s true Love it! BTW: How do I switch from poly-mode to chorus-rate??? ;-) carpe diem... Guido -- About me, my music and my sports: http://Tao7.tripod.com My music page at BeSonic (with RealAudio and MP3-samples): http://www.BeSonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t1o0i13132,00.htmlX-From_: access-list-return-915-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 18:58:20 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:04:27 -0500 (EST) From: To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? You might want to try to just use windows media player. That's what I use to update my OS. I've not tried it with 3.0b yet though. -Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phpwebhosting.com - $9.95/month - plain and simple ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >Hi, when dumping OS3.0b to my VIRUS-b, everything gets transferred up to where the VIRUS-b displays "4 61". The dump from my sequencer is complete, but it looks like the VIRUS is still waiting for more info. > >I have tried this with CAKEWALK, CUBASE and my midi player, with the same resault. X-From_: access-list-return-916-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 19:43:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Authentication-Warning: sherrill.kiva.net: dob owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:48:00 -0500 (EST) From: Moho Disco To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Chicken On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 dennis_schissler@hp.com wrote: >really: define "capabilities" - it's a very subjective thing of which everyone has their own opinion> I guess I mean "tweakable parameters, and possible outcomes from those parameters"... or something like that... MohoX-From_: access-list-return-917-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 20:06:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:08:25 +0100 From: John Machielsen Reply-To: culthero@swankarmy.net Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: off topic : the FS1R again.plus powersupplies. i bought it too. it will arrive soon (shipped internationally to the Netherlands.) it costed me 900 guilders to get the unit including shipping with Fed-Ex international insurance shipping. it was from AMS. 427$ .. hmm, this synth would undoubtedly have cost me like, 2400 guilders, about $1200 here in the Netherlands. i must say i love internet and my creditcard. but my real question and problem is, the powernets in the US and Northern-Europe are different, and the FS1R i get is one for the US net...not the N-Europe one. does anyone have an easy solution for this or experience on this matter ? i called our national Yamaha Service center and they could install a new power supply for 150$ maxim. i also know i can buy one of those converters at an electronic shop, but i'm afraid of a ground humloop problem with this kind of stuff near my fragile and expensive electronic gears. so, please help. greetings, John MachielsenX-From_: access-list-return-918-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 20:20:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:24:23 -0800 Subject: SoundDiver Cc: access-list@teklab.com What do people think about SoundDiver? It supports at least 3 synths of mine including the Virus and I'm wondering if it will make editing some of the "deeper" features easier. Is it good for patch-building or primarily as a patch librarian? Thanks, Dennis www.mp3.com/subgeniusX-From_: access-list-return-919-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 20:26:09 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:30:21 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: off topic : the FS1R again for those of you considering getting a FS1R, here is my experience with it so far: The Virus was my first synth. Within 20 minutes of plugging it in, I began to understand subtractive synthesis, and began fiddling with making my own sounds. Now a week into owning a FS1R, I'm still baffled as to how to construct the sounds I want to. I do have SoundDiver (without it, I wouldn't even consider trying to make patches), and the sheer number of controls the FS1R offers is discouraging (or amazing, or astounding, or nauseating). Whereas the Virus SoundDiver adaptation is _one_ nicely laid out screen, the FS1R has no less than !8! screenfulls of controls (performance + voice + FX edit screens) on my 1024x768 monitor. And the density of controls is *high*. Let's see ... 4 voices per performance, 8 oscillators (or voiced operators) per voice, 8 noise generators (unvoiced operators) per voice + 88 FM algorithms available per voice + 3 fully configurable FX for the performance + 2 LFOs (not MIDI syncable) + the Formant Sequencing adjustments + 1 unusable manual. It's a *lot* to take in. BUT, the sound quality of the FS1R is phenominal ... and there are loads and loads of neat presets. The FX section of the box is great (dozens of different effects available). BUT, if you treasure the ease at which you can construct patches on your Virus and are not willing to part with that, maybe the FS1R will be disappointing. If you are a masochist/genius/certified madman, maybe you will like it. So to sum up, the FS1R is a nice sounding box. Just *very* difficult to design sounds (for perspective, I find the Virus to be a piece of cake to make whatever sound I have in my head - thanks Access!). Proceed with caution. -zsX-From_: access-list-return-920-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 20:29:10 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:32:47 EST Subject: Re: I am Still having problems with OS3.0b - Please assist me? To: access-list@teklab.com hi, << You might want to try to just use windows media player. That's what I use to update my OS. I've not tried it with 3.0b yet though. >> I couldn't get Media Player to work with anything over 2.51 so I've been using Logic Audio instead. It might work with 3.0B, I haven't tried, but it wouldn't work for 3.0 Logic worked perfectly, though it may have just been my config at that moment. PS: Anyone using Dual Flat Screen monitors with their cpu rig, please email me in private. 800+ mhz are out now... thanks, Shawn shawnclear@aol.comX-From_: access-list-return-921-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 20:31:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:33:41 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SoundDiver hi Dennis, I *love* sounddiver. I use it for my Virus, FS1R, Lex MPX-100, and Alesis MidiVerb. To have all the virus's controls available on the monitor at once, live and animated as you twist knobs is really great. And to be able to change Vocoder settings and then make reassignments in the mod matrix without paging through the CONF menu is invaluable. Oh yeah, it also makes saving/restoring alternate banks & patches cake. So to answer your two questions (patch building or librarian) ... YES! Highly recommended. Just make sure you have MIDI IN *AND* OUT going to each of your devices. -zs dennis_schissler@hp.com wrote: > >What do people think about SoundDiver? It supports at least 3 synths of mine including the Virus and I'm wondering if it will make editing some of the "deeper" features easier. Is it good for patch-building or primarily as a patch librarian? > >Thanks, > >Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgenius -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================X-From_: access-list-return-922-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 20:34:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:04:17 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SoundDiver Its not that bad as librarian (when you have an Unitor8,before i bought that i had only trouble). But surely not for editing . Oli dennis_schissler@hp.com schrieb: >What do people think about SoundDiver? It supports at least 3 synths of mine including the Virus and I'm wondering if it will make editing some of the "deeper" features easier. Is it good for patch-building or primarily as a patch librarian? > >Thanks, > >Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgeniusX-From_: access-list-return-923-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 21:56:53 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:01:18 -0800 Subject: Re: SoundDiver To: zs@yahoo-inc.com Cc: access-list@teklab.com Thanks for the rave review - I will be purchasing it promptly! I seem to remember hearing some guy on the list having something to do with the Virus module for it - is everything already included in the packaged software or do I need to access a site somewhere with the Virus modules (I have the Virus "a" w/ latest firmware)? Thanks again, Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: SoundDiver Author: Non-HP-zs (zs@yahoo-inc.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 1/21/00 11:33 AM hi Dennis, I *love* sounddiver. I use it for my Virus, FS1R, Lex MPX-100, and Alesis MidiVerb. To have all the virus's controls available on the monitor at once, live and animated as you twist knobs is really great. And to be able to change Vocoder settings and then make reassignments in the mod matrix without paging through the CONF menu is invaluable. Oh yeah, it also makes saving/restoring alternate banks & patches cake. So to answer your two questions (patch building or librarian) ... YES! Highly recommended. Just make sure you have MIDI IN *AND* OUT going to each of your devices. -zs dennis_schissler@hp.com wrote: > >What do people think about SoundDiver? It supports at least 3 synths of mine including the Virus and I'm wondering if it will make editing some of the "deeper" features easier. Is it good for patch-building or primarily as a patch librarian? > >Thanks, > >Dennis >www.mp3.com/subgenius -- ------------------------------------------------------ Zack Steinkamp Technical Yahoo 408.530.5372 ======================================================X-From_: access-list-return-924-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 21:59:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Jeff Gabbert To: "'access-list@teklab.com'" Subject: RE: SoundDiver Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:04:01 -0800 SoundDiver is great, very important software for me. I use it with Cubase when sequencing. I love being able to see banks of patch names at a glance when trying to find a sound. I've tried some of the others over the years, but so far I like SoundDiver the best for me. The Virus adaptation in particular is great, though no support for Virus b 3.0 yet. The only (small) downside is that some of the editors for the more complex synths (z1, fs1r) suffer somewhat from "screen clutter", IMHO. I guess that's what you get for having so many options ;-). SoundDiver displays a patch as one big page (often larger than what can fit on the screen), which can be a little overwhelming sometimes. Then again, for some this might be an advantage. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: dennis_schissler@hp.com [mailto:dennis_schissler@hp.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:24 AM Cc: access-list@teklab.com Subject: SoundDiver What do people think about SoundDiver? It supports at least 3 synths of mine including the Virus and I'm wondering if it will make editing some of the "deeper" features easier. Is it good for patch-building or primarily as a patch librarian? Thanks, Dennis www.mp3.com/subgeniusX-From_: access-list-return-925-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 21 23:48:46 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:45:11 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: RE: SoundDiver Sorry, but I have to disagree wholeheartedly with the rave reviews previously posted. I hate soundDiver, use it anyway, but cannot recommend it to anyone. I tried using it for editing and it's terrible. I have to say that there are no modules for most of the gear I tried to use it with, only "adaptations" (a gruesome, crude thing, quickly thrown together without any love.) These are totally unusable. For example the one for the E-MU procussion has over 1000 parameters on a single page, the one for the drumstation comes close to that. I like the Microwave module (that's a real module) but I haven't been able to use soundDiver reliably with more than one device. I can't save libraries for songs without constantly losing sounds and so I pretty much stopped using the software and stopped editing some of the modules I used it for... I went to a trade show once and spoke to Michael Haydn to figure out what I am doing wrong. I showed him the way I worked at the time and he told me that it can't work because there is a bug in there somewhere. there is no other software like SoundDiver and it seems all companies are getting their act together now to get modules or adaptations. Which is a good thing. This software has to mature a lot though and this has been the case for the past 6 years (that's how long I have been using it)... Since Emagic doesn't write the modules and adaptations themselves but users and the companies that make the gear do, it can sometimes take a long time for a module to be updated or made when a new piece of gear comes out. hmmm.. What do people think about SoundDiver? It supports at least 3 synths of mine including the Virus and I'm wondering if it will make editing some of the "deeper" features easier. Is it good for patch-building or primarily as a patch librarian? Thanks, Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-926-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 00:02:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: dennis_schissler@hp.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:07:16 -0800 Subject: RE: SoundDiver Cc: access-list@teklab.com Gee, now I'm really confused: 2 *very* different opinions. Well I just cancelled my order and plan to do some more research first. Thanks for the feedback though. -Dennis ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: SoundDiver Author: Non-HP-canine (canine@muenster.de) at HP-Boise,mimegw6 Date: 1/21/00 2:45 PM Sorry, but I have to disagree wholeheartedly with the rave reviews previously posted. I hate soundDiver, use it anyway, but cannot recommend it to anyone. I tried using it for editing and it's terrible. I have to say that there are no modules for most of the gear I tried to use it with, only "adaptations" (a gruesome, crude thing, quickly thrown together without any love.) These are totally unusable. For example the one for the E-MU procussion has over 1000 parameters on a single page, the one for the drumstation comes close to that. I like the Microwave module (that's a real module) but I haven't been able to use soundDiver reliably with more than one device. I can't save libraries for songs without constantly losing sounds and so I pretty much stopped using the software and stopped editing some of the modules I used it for... I went to a trade show once and spoke to Michael Haydn to figure out what I am doing wrong. I showed him the way I worked at the time and he told me that it can't work because there is a bug in there somewhere. there is no other software like SoundDiver and it seems all companies are getting their act together now to get modules or adaptations. Which is a good thing. This software has to mature a lot though and this has been the case for the past 6 years (that's how long I have been using it)... Since Emagic doesn't write the modules and adaptations themselves but users and the companies that make the gear do, it can sometimes take a long time for a module to be updated or made when a new piece of gear comes out. hmmm.. What do people think about SoundDiver? It supports at least 3 synths of mine including the Virus and I'm wondering if it will make editing some of the "deeper" features easier. Is it good for patch-building or primarily as a patch librarian? Thanks, Dennis www.mp3.com/subgenius think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-927-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 00:26:57 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:31:44 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Arrangement Dump To: access-list@teklab.com I am using Cakewalk 9 with the OS 3 revision b. Why is it that the arrangement request macro doesn't seem to work? Only 289 bytes of data come in, but this can't be right. Is it because of Cakewalk or the OS? (Dumping directly from the Virus b works fine though) BTW, this is the macro I use, {F0,00,20,33,01,10,34,F7} Anybody has any idea? Thanks, norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-928-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 00:59:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 01:04:38 +0100 From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck Organization: Belway Productions X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: SoundDiver Hi Canine, >Since Emagic doesn't write the modules and adaptations themselves but users and the companies that make the gear do As far as I know, this is not correct: Adaptations and modules are also written by Emagic... not all of them. >, it can sometimes take >a long time for a module to be updated or made when a new piece of gear comes out. hmmm.. Well, no-one will stop you from making your own adaptation! :) As for my personal opinion: it's a difficult program at first, but it's great once you understand it! I love it. I agree with one thing though: it's advertised as if there were adaptations for every possible synth, but sometimes those adaptations don't have any features at all and you can sometimes just use them for back-up purposes, so check before buying. I recommend it though!!! Ciao, Joeri -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM http://www.belway.com - Belway Productions http://www.nbdj.com - Natural Born DeejaysX-From_: access-list-return-933-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 16:13:11 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:49:28 +0100 From: John Machielsen Reply-To: culthero@swankarmy.net Organization: http://culthero.com X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: off topic : the FS1R again As nice as your reply is Zack, i asked about the possibility and experiences from people who had problems with powersupplies from over-seas-bought gear ...I do know the FS1R is a hell to edit. but i must say that i'm willing to try. But the problem is the powersupply in this case. So if there's anyone who can shed a light on this ?? -John Machielsen- Zack Steinkamp wrote: >for those of you considering getting a FS1R, here is my experience with it so far: > >((SNIP)) > >So to sum up, the FS1R is a nice sounding box. Just *very* difficult to design sounds (for perspective, I find the Virus to be a piece of cake to make whatever sound I have in my head - thanks Access!). Proceed with caution. > >-zsX-From_: access-list-return-929-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 11:38:26 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: From: "Maik Jost" To: Subject: FutureMusic etc. / Test result vs Advertising Volume Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:44:11 +0100 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Importance: High Not saying anything about JP8080 vs Virus vs Nova etc I just want to remid you that Gabe G is absolutely right in one point: Advertising volume IS related to the result of a test! The more "low-volume" and "mass-appeal" a magazine is, the more this counts. You can easily check this out i.e. with the computer games testing mags aswell. And as Access isn't and can't be Ad-spender No.1 (especially not in a british magazine ruled by Novation Ads ;-)), the tests fail or cannot be so good as the "advertisment-supported" tests. (Imagine a big spender (Like Novation or Roland) withdrawing advertisment volume after a "head-to-head-combat" results in a loss of the big advertised product. What would they do... Maik -----UrsprŸngliche Nachricht----- Von: Gabe G [mailto:gfg202@is8.nyu.edu] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Januar 2000 20:57 An: access-list@teklab.com Betreff: FutureMusic etc. Hi, just want to throw in my 2 cents regarding FutureMusic: If you want to know how they are going to review a particular product, just check how many ads from the manufacturer appear in the magazine, more ads seems = better review. Future music gave a platinum award to the Akai S5000/6000 samplers, at the time fm reviewed these samplers, they were barely operational due to an extraordinarily buggy OS (many people ended up selling their S5000/6000's because they were so screwed up-- have a look on the Akai web site and notice all the OS updates), there is no way that FM could have given the S5000/6000 the grade it did if it had actually tested out the machines. Future music declared the JP8080 the "best synth ever" in its review... anyone who has heard the virus, the supernova, or the nord 2 knows that this is obviously not even close to the truth. If you want honest reviews and useful information, read Sound on Sound, if you want pictures of ugly models holding synthesizers, and crap CDs, buy Future Music.X-From_: access-list-return-930-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 12:24:31 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:38:25 +0100 From: Guenther Albrecht Reply-To: saliter@pan.com Organization: SoundHome X-Mller: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Macintosh; I; 68K) To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Galaxy Librarian Module & 3.0 hi all, i did the last revision of my opcode galaxy lib module in march 99; worked fine for me since. now i had complaints of Virus b/kb 3.0 users: they could not use their synths with my module. >I did use your librarian just (5 >minutes) before I updated the OS on my Virus b to make a backup of my current sounds. Then I updated my OS and I could not back up the sounds on the machine any more. I was able to send the original patches back to the Virus. but this could be anything else: i had problems after updating the OS because default settings (midi channel etc.) get changed by the update procedure. so it was helpfull to go thru all crucial parameters and make sure they are set right. as i have no virus b/kb & i think access will give me none for free even if i send in my old A... i have to ask the list: - is anyone successfull using a virus b/kb with OS 3.0 and my galaxy module? - did programmers of other adaptions etc. notice size or sysEx changes in 3.0? - Christoph & his team: any changes? just mail me in person, not the list! thanx -- ÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ.G.A. -> DOING STRANGE THINGS IN THE NAME OF ART... <- ÊÊÊÊÊÊVisit me at http://www.pan.com/saliter !X-From_: access-list-return-931-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 13:30:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: torsten@mail.projector.se Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:34:56 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: torsten edwinson Subject: Re: Powersuply to the virus X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: access-list@teklab.com X-Return-Path: torsten@projector.se At 18:22 2000-01-20 -0500, you wrote: Maybe i described my virus as the wrong model. It's the old version of the virus, with OS 2.52. It does have a external powersuply. >In einer eMail vom 20.01.00 14:38:11 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>I'm new in this list and wanted to ask you about how to find a replacement for the powersuply to the Virus 2 kb. >> >>Can someone help me out? > >The power supply of the Virus kb is build in. Why do you want to replace it? > >-Christoph torsten edwinson . creative developer p r o j e c t o r p n m a b . karlavŠgen 58 . 114 49 stockholm phone +46 8 562 15 446 fax +46 8 562 15 401 cellular +46 70 237 237 3 torsten@projector.se http://www.projector.seX-From_: access-list-return-932-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 15:22:45 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Marzzz@aol.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:27:09 EST Subject: Re: RE: SoundDiver To: access-list@teklab.com In a message dated 1/21/00 4:53:30 PM, canine@muenster.de writes: >Since Emagic doesn't write the modules and adaptations themselves but users and the companies that make the gear do, it can sometimes take a long time for a module to be updated or made when a new piece of gear comes out. hmmm.. > The alternative was even worse- I used to use Studiovision and Galaxy Plus Editors, and Opcode would only release a new editor if a synth was extremely popular. Of course, at the moment they shut down they hadn't released a new librarian in nearly three years...... -MarshallX-From_: access-list-return-934-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 19:22:49 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:51:06 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: RE: SoundDiver At 9:27 AM -0500 on 22.01.2000 Marzzz@aol.com wrote: The alternative was even worse- I used to use Studiovision and Galaxy Plus Editors, and Opcode would only release a new editor if a synth was extremely popular. Of course, at the moment they shut down they hadn't released a new librarian in nearly three years...... You are very right, that's what I meant when I said that there is no other soft- or hardware that can do what SoundDiver can. unfortunately SoundDiver is not the best way imaginable to do what it does...;-( think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-935-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 22 19:23:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de (Unverified) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:55:22 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: FutureMusic etc. At 4:06 AM -0800 on 21.01.2000 Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: > >>the VURUS-b is by far a better thought-out >machine, BUT every sound that can >>be created on the VIRUS-b can be created on the >JP8080. JP8k is no doubt a great synth, but it doesn't create everything you can on the Virus b. The simplest example would be the envelope. I really like the JP 8000 for its warmth, fatness, bass and pads, but the delay on it is just shite. try turning the delay time parameter while a sound is playing and you will get worse statci then when listening in to police radio...;-) think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-936-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 00:47:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:52:20 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Incognito Subject: Re: FutureMusic etc. To: access-list@teklab.com Don't get me started on the JP-8000.....I paid a little more than a fourth of the price for a FS1R, and its a way better synth.....and comparing the JP to a Virus? If I were a Virus, I'd be a little bit insulted....and hurt.....then i'd start crying and the tears would short out my circuitry, and then I'd start singing, "Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do......" I'm sorry, but the JP-8000 couldn't pour piss out of a boot even if the instructions were written on the sole.... My 3 cents....you deserve more than two! Gel-Sol --- "K.9 Kai Niggemann" wrote: >At 4:06 AM -0800 on 21.01.2000 Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >>>On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Aubrey Kloppers wrote: >>> >>>>the VURUS-b is by far a better thought-out >>>machine, BUT every sound that can >>>>be created on the VIRUS-b can be created on >the >>>JP8080. >> >>JP8k is no doubt a great synth, but it doesn't >create >>everything you can on the Virus b. The simplest example would be the envelope. > > >I really like the JP 8000 for its warmth, fatness, bass and pads, but >the delay on it is just shite. try turning the delay time parameter >while a sound is playing and you will get worse statci then when >listening in to police radio...;-) > >think different! > >Canine > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >canine@waf80.de >good night europe. >ICQ: 5357396 >http://www.waf80.de/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-937-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 01:31:37 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:36:45 -0800 (PST) From: chris B Subject: Loading patches into VIRUS To: access-list@teklab.com I can really use some help with this... I use logic and want to check out some sounds others have created. So I downloaded them and now I cann't figure out how to get them in the virus from LOGIC 4.1.2. Thank you chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-938-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 01:33:32 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: chris B Subject: Re: Loading patches into VIRUS To: access-list@teklab.com Sorry, I ment into logic and then to the virus. I am basicly haveing difficulty placing the midi file into a track. Pressing play is easy! --- chris B wrote: >I can really use some help with this... I use logic and want to check out some sounds others have created. So I downloaded them and now I cann't figure out how to get them in the virus from LOGIC 4.1.2. > >Thank you >chris >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-939-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 02:35:55 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:46:51 +0100 From: joel X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: off topic : the FS1R again I can say a few words about this.. I am subscibed to a synth-DoItYourself list, now i only know the emailadress, i don't know the homepage anymore, so all i can offer you is that. and.. ofcourse, that i hope they can help you there. :) Joel John Machielsen wrote: >As nice as your reply is Zack, i asked about the possibility and experiences > >from people who had problems with powersupplies from over-seas-bought gear ...I do know the FS1R is a hell to edit. but i must say that i'm willing to try. > >But the problem is the powersupply in this case. So if there's anyone who can shed a light on this ?? > >-John Machielsen- > >Zack Steinkamp wrote: > >>for those of you considering getting a FS1R, here is my experience with it so far: >> >>((SNIP)) >> >>So to sum up, the FS1R is a nice sounding box. Just *very* difficult to design sounds (for perspective, I find the Virus to be a piece of cake to make whatever sound I have in my head - thanks Access!). Proceed with caution. >> >>-zsX-From_: access-list-return-940-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 03:37:24 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:42:31 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: wave wrapper To: access-list@teklab.com Somebody mentioned Nord Modular's Wave Wrapper the other day. I think the Shaper Distortion on the Virus B sounds very close to the Wave Wrapper effect. norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-941-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 03:44:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 03:54:57 +0100 From: joel X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: (DIY adress) Re: off topic : the FS1R again Now what if i just forgot to put the adress with it :)) *lol* shit, sorry.. It is: synth-diy@mailhost.bpa.nl joel wrote: >I can say a few words about this.. > >I am subscibed to a synth-DoItYourself list, now i only know the emailadress, i don't know the homepage anymore, so all i can offer you is that. and.. ofcourse, that i hope they can help you there. :) > >Joel > >John Machielsen wrote: > >>As nice as your reply is Zack, i asked about the possibility and experiences >> >>from people who had problems with powersupplies from over-seas-bought gear ...I do know the FS1R is a hell to edit. but i must say that i'm willing to try. >> >>But the problem is the powersupply in this case. So if there's anyone who can shed a light on this ?? >> >>-John Machielsen- >> >>Zack Steinkamp wrote: >> >>>for those of you considering getting a FS1R, here is my experience with it so far: >>> >>>((SNIP)) >>> >>>So to sum up, the FS1R is a nice sounding box. Just *very* difficult to design sounds (for perspective, I find the Virus to be a piece of cake to make whatever sound I have in my head - thanks Access!). Proceed with caution. >>> >>>-zsX-From_: access-list-return-943-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 09:24:19 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Paul Nagle To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: wave wrapper Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:26:32 +0000 Organization: The Soft Room Reply-To: softroom@btinternet.com On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:42:31 -0800 (PST), Norsez Orankijanan wrote: >Somebody mentioned Nord Modular's Wave Wrapper the other day. I think the Shaper Distortion on the Virus B sounds very close to the Wave Wrapper effect. Indeedy, which is why I suggested (did I, can't remember?) it would be great to position it just after the oscillators and before both filters. Especially if this waveform distortion had a modulation matrix input so that you could apply slight variations to the waveforms before they go any further. Subtlety is the key to keeping the ear interested - sometimes you don't even realise it on a conscious level. Take ROMplers for example, they sound superficially OK but repeated hearing of them triggers something in the brain that tells you "this is identical". You play the same phrase, it triggers the same samples, it sounds "dead" - to me. Simply adding a bit of random tuning won't fool you for long either - modelling an analogue synthesizer is a tough call - there are lots of real components making up that sound, each ageing, heating up, doing real world things, maybe its selection of resistors and capacitors vary wildly within their tolerances.... The bottom line is (I'm boring you, aren't I?) that striving for the "perfect" sawtooth wave is not going to give us the ultimate in analog modelling if it gives us an identical, static sound every time. Maybe it is the subtle imperfections in an old analog that makes it exciting for us - in the way that hearing a real piano is always interesting but a sampled piano eventually becomes boring. Don't ask me why, I'm no scientist, but it seems to me that the more your ears get accustomed to hearing a certain kind of sound, the more you can focus on it. When I got my first synth, a long time ago, I was convinced it could sound like all those synths on record - until I heard it next to some of them! Is there a point to this email, you ask? Well, just that I am still seeking every possible way to add the tiniest, most subtle variations to every aspect of the sound at raw waveform level and beyond. It is not intended to be a criticism of the Access Virus or other modelled instruments just a call to keep working at all those tiny details; anything Access can do in this area will give them even more of an edge on the competition. BTW you should see the shape of waveforms that some of my analog stuff produces - they seem to vary at different frequencies, even at the same frequencies but when played at different times etc. etc. BUT the sound is gorgeous and I never get tired of it! I'll shut up now. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music email: paul@softroom.co.uk web: www.softroom.co.uk --- Latest CD "Lore" available from www.neuharm.demon.co.ukX-From_: access-list-return-944-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 11:37:56 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:09:28 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: LFO Trigger suggestion Hey all , A feature i really miss and would be unique i guess , is an option to trigger the LFO after some notes of your choice and not only every note . The problem i have is that you could do some great modulation if you could trigger the LFO this way regardless of what you play . And when i dont trigger the LFO the modulation isnt constant and changes the feel always . This could be done for measures or amount of notes and would give you some powerful options to use the modulation matrix in a real creative way . Your 2 c would be appreciated . OliverX-From_: access-list-return-945-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 12:43:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:48:47 +0100 From: Michael Lauer Reply-To: Michael Lauer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: RE: SoundDiver >You are very right, that's what I meant when I said that there is no other soft- or hardware that can do what SoundDiver can. unfortunately SoundDiver is not the best way imaginable to do what it does...;-( However... and I like to point this out again and again, it get's the job done! One gets used to the interface and creating adaptions is _really_ straightforward. (I created the Supernova adaption). -- Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de --------------------------------------------------------- How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?X-From_: access-list-return-946-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 12:58:50 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:03:48 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: LFO Trigger suggestion To: access-list@teklab.com >A feature i really miss and would be unique i guess , is an option to >trigger the LFO after >some notes of your choice and not only every note . Hey Oli, That's interesting. So how do you specify which notes will have triggering and which won't? norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-947-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 13:46:30 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:18:15 +0100 From: Oliver X-Accept-Language: de To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: LFO Trigger suggestion I think the best way would be a measure setting like the LFO clock so you could set the LFO to trigger every measure or half or ...( from the first note played or fixed by midi clock) I think this would open perspectives for a whole new kind of sounds . I could imagine that this wouldnt take too much DSP power and programing effort . Another very interesting approach would be to set the amounts of notes played to trigger the LFO . Lets think you set to 4 notes and it would trigger always when you hit the 5ht note. You could play some very interesting grooves with that too . Oli Norsez Orankijanan schrieb: >>A feature i really miss and would be unique i guess , is an option to >>trigger the LFO after >>some notes of your choice and not only every note . > >Hey Oli, > >That's interesting. So how do you specify which notes will have triggering and which won't? > >norsez >__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-948-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 14:50:12 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 05:54:55 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: OS3.0b knob display bug? To: access-list@teklab.com Hey list, I switched the knob display mode to short yesterday. Now I can't switch it back to long anymore. Everytime I leave the menu and go back to it. It will go back to off. This is quite bugging. Does it happen to anybody else? norsez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-951-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 22:19:00 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:26:27 +0100 From: molter X-Accept-Language: de,en To: "access-list@teklab.com" Subject: a to b hi. does anybody know a store in germany which will "upgrade" my virus a to version b? (exchange a plus money for b) cheers chrisX-From_: access-list-return-952-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 22:24:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Mark L. Holloway" Sender: mholloway@flashmail.com Reply-to: mholloway@flashmail.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:30:04 -800 Subject: Midi 101? X-User-Info: 24.234.91.136 I'm pretty new to the world of midi and sequencing. Are there any web sites that give a basic run down of how to connect the equipment, how to control a module (say a Yamaha RM1x) from another synth (Nord Lead 2)..? I guess I don't need anything that's specifc to particular equipment since I have the manuals..but the manuals assume that you aren't a newbie, which I am. So I brain fart and get lost easily.. The thing is that I played drums for 6 years and played the piano when I was younger, so the creativity isn't the hard part, it's making everything talk and work together! Thanks..I appreciate any feedback! Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your FREE FlashMail Address now at http://www.flashmail.com It's Free, Easy, & Fun !!!X-From_: access-list-return-953-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 23 23:05:33 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:10:20 +0100 From: Michael Lauer Reply-To: Michael Lauer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: a to b >hi. >does anybody know a store in germany which will "upgrade" my virus a to version b? (exchange a plus money for b) cheers chris Some years ago, SynthesizerStudio Jacob did this for me. I traded a Korg 01/Wfd for a Yamaha SY99. It wasn't such a good deal, though. Check out http://www.synthjacob.de -- Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de --------------------------------------------------------- How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?X-From_: access-list-return-955-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 00:23:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: canine@pop.muenster.de Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:38:28 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: "K.9 Kai Niggemann" Subject: Re: Midi 101? I'm always glad when people who are new to all the electronics stuff (re-)open my eyes to what we all are enduring day in day out by computer and instrument makers... As easy as modern user interfaces may be but questions like this one show me how much they can still lag behind...;-) anyway, Welcome to the Desert of the Real... a nice place to start should be websites like: www.hyperreal.com www.harmonycentral.com www.wizoo.com www.yahoo.com (they have a large section on electronic instruments, there is even an entire section about Virus related websites...) and then there is always books and magazines...;-) enjoy, of course we will be there to help you also...! At 1:30 PM -0800 on 23.01.2000 Mark L. Holloway wrote: I'm pretty new to the world of midi and sequencing. Are there any web sites that give a basic run down of how to connect the equipment, how to control a module (say a Yamaha RM1x) from another synth (Nord Lead 2)..? I guess I don't need anything that's specifc to particular equipment since I have the manuals..but the manuals assume that you aren't a newbie, which I am. So I brain fart and get lost easily.. The thing is that I played drums for 6 years and played the piano when I was younger, so the creativity isn't the hard part, it's making everything talk and work together! Thanks..I appreciate any feedback! Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your FREE FlashMail Address now at http://www.flashmail.com It's Free, Easy, & Fun !!! think different! Canine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ canine@waf80.de good night europe. ICQ: 5357396 http://www.waf80.de/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-From_: access-list-return-954-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 00:02:47 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: "access-list" Subject: half note on display and midi probs. Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:08:05 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Hi List, Using Cubase, and trying to play an arpeggiated patch I get this half note on the LCD. And often times cubase stops recording notes into the track. Sometimes in playback it gives the half note (getting the half note is like getting the finger I am learning :-) ) and the sound drops off that track. I'm assuming its some sort of midi error and it kills it. If I go into the track and look at it, there is no note data... but the funny thing is that It played it before (or so I think). Now sometimes "I think" it gives the the half note and acts like there is nothing to play when in fact there is.... and everytime it hits a certain point it pukes. I have my sync set as Cubase, I have my Kawai K5000S set either as int or ext (I have yet to get the Kawai to sync to this as a source or a slave). So for now I just use it to play the notes, not a sound source. I've played with the sync settings for days on and off now (many hours total), on all three units, and no luck... So now I have to ask for help. (I've looked all over the manuals for the virus on what getting the finger... err half note means, but only in the begining does it mention anything about it. And it's not like a comple explanation, and doesn't seem to fit my situation.) One more thing about this... I ALWAYS get the half note when I play an arp'd patch, but most of the time it works anyway, tho I know it's not 'happy' about it. Thanks for the help in advance. Kintama X-From_: access-list-return-956-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 00:38:14 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: half note on display and midi probs. Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:41:51 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi Kintama, I'd guess that you might have a MIDI loop; with the Virus sending arpeggiation back into your sequencer, and interfering with the notes from your master keyboard. We had someone with a similar problem just last week... slightly different symptoms though. >I have my sync set as Cubase, I have my Kawai K5000S set either as int or ext (I have yet to get the Kawai to sync to this as a source or a slave). So for now I just use it to play the notes, not a sound source. Sync has nothing to do with MIDI notes; it affects clocks & transports. >(I've looked all over the manuals for the virus on what getting the finger... err half note means, but only in the begining does it mention anything about it. And it's not like a comple explanation, and doesn't seem to fit my situation.) Yep, normally for notes on other parts of the multi. But maybe it also comes up when 'note off' is received on this part... Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-958-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 02:51:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: half note on display and midi probs. Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:56:15 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Hi Christoph & Thomas, Yes i do have the arp send off on all 3 modes. I should also state I'm using 2.51 on a Virus A, and I've got it in Multi Single Mode so that I can use Cubase. Ok I figured out what was happening with the half note (and it's unrelated to the problem as you will see in a bit). Incase other newbies have this puzzling half note... My Virus is in MultiSingle mode so I can play different patches into Cubase. If the patch displayed is NOT the patch playing, that is why I get the half note cuz that sound is not on the channel playing (thanks to Christoph for that explanation of the half note it lead me to explore this). If you click the Parameter <> buttons to find the patch playing it DOES have the Quarter note. Now back to the problem... I have new data and I am sure someone has an answer... Now unfortunately I still have this weird problem of loosing patches... AND... I just recreated the problem me bye pressing harder on my Kawai so it would send aftertouch. Finally I can reproduce this heres what I did... On track one I have AR-KICK going which is an arp'd patch On track two I am recording System55RP arp'd patch While recording track two I pressed the key a little harder... and BINGO! Track #1 was silent. In some attempts it doesn't die when pressing harder, it dies when I pull it back some. And then to get the #1 sound to come back I let off the note and then play it. I'm sure someone will tell me that "ohh I know exactly what it is... your horizontal subcarrier phaseshift is set to null"... or something... and I'll be looking forward to the answer. :-) I know I could turn pressure sending off on the Kawai, but I would hate to do that and loose out on the way it tweaks out some patches. Seems this is not fixing the real problem with my system by doing that, cuz I would think that the virus and cubase are designed for it. Thanks, James PS the patches I've refered to are in Rob Papen's #1 set that you buy for about $40 bux... the bank of patches is well worth it !!! -----Original Message----- From: CKe9644719@aol.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Sunday, January 23, 2000 4:55 PM Subject: Re: half note on display and midi probs. >In einer eMail vom 24.01.00 00:43:43 MEZ, schreiben Sie: > >> >>I'd guess that you might have a MIDI loop; with the Virus sending arpeggiation back into your sequencer, and interfering with the notes from >>your master keyboard. >> >>We had someone with a similar problem just last week... slightly different >>symptoms though. > > >Please check if you switched on CTRL: MIDI ArpeggSend. > >You don't need this feature if you want to play back an arpeggiator phrase. Just record the Notes from your keyboard. > >The half note in the display means the Virus is receiving notes on a different midi channel. Does the Virus play without arpeggiator? > >-Christoph X-From_: access-list-return-959-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 03:01:56 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:11:01 -0500 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net To: access-list@teklab.com, Paul Nagle Subject: luxx: wave wrapper/paul what kind of music do u do???X-From_: access-list-return-960-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 04:36:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Thomas Whitmore" To: Subject: Re: half note on display and midi probs. Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:40:15 +1300 X-Priority: 3 Hi Kintama, >If the patch displayed is NOT the patch playing, that is why I get the half note cuz that sound is not on the channel playing (thanks to Christoph for that explanation of the half note it lead me to explore this). Oh. I thought you were well past this issue... >Now unfortunately I still have this weird problem of loosing patches... AND... I just recreated the problem me bye pressing harder on my Kawai so it would send aftertouch. Finally I can reproduce this heres what I did... You say the Virus is reacting to your keyboard, further suggesting the aftertouch as culprit. There's also polyphonic channel pressure which might be involved. So set the Virus not to use these control methods! Or filter them so they don't go to the Virus. On the V's MIDI control LoPage/ HiPage settings you select which MIDI messages are used; change whichever one is problematic to SysEx. >I'm sure someone will tell me that "ohh I know exactly what it is... your horizontal subcarrier phaseshift is set to null"... or something... You already said you know what it is (more or less), you hardly need me to fix it... Cheers, ThomasX-From_: access-list-return-961-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 04:53:07 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Kintama" To: Subject: Re: half note on display and midi probs. Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:58:24 -0800 X-Priority: 3 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Whitmore To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Sunday, January 23, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: Re: half note on display and midi probs. >Hi Kintama, > >>If the patch displayed is NOT the patch playing, that is why I get the half note cuz that sound is not on the channel playing (thanks to Christoph for that explanation of the half note it lead me to explore this). > >Oh. I thought you were well past this issue... Forgive me your Lordship, I asked for help not belittling. > >>Now unfortunately I still have this weird problem of loosing patches... AND... I just recreated the problem me bye pressing harder on my Kawai so it would send aftertouch. Finally I can reproduce this heres what I did... > >You say the Virus is reacting to your keyboard, further suggesting the aftertouch as culprit. There's also polyphonic channel pressure which might be involved. > >So set the Virus not to use these control methods! Or filter them so they don't go to the Virus. On the V's MIDI control LoPage/ HiPage settings you select which MIDI messages are used; change whichever one is problematic to SysEx. > >>I'm sure someone will tell me that "ohh I know exactly what it is... your horizontal subcarrier phaseshift is set to null"... or something... > >You already said you know what it is (more or less), you hardly need me to fix it... > > >Cheers, >Thomas > I guess I assumed there was a way to keep the after touch since we have patches that take advantage of it. I don't consider it a solution to kill off the aftertouch, seems either the Virus or Cubase has a problem. I'll look into the polyphonic channel pressure you speak of. KintamaX-From_: access-list-return-963-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 05:39:57 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: ShawnClear@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:44:23 EST Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me pleaz? To: access-list@teklab.com hey, << SORRY, i've been trying to unsubscribe forever, and it never works... so who ever runs this, please get me off the mailing list, thanx! =) >> FAT chance buddy, ahaha!X-From_: access-list-return-964-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 07:32:57 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Envelope Generator" To: Subject: Re: off topic : the FS1R again Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi.all For FM synthesis programming (DX,TX, FS1R) is very helpfull a software for ATARI called AVALON. It convert a sample (wav,aiff ....) to a FM programm for DX/TX serie. The result is not the same, but for sound design it«s great utility. I hope that YAMAHA make somethig like AVALON for FS1R and PC or MAC. E.G.X-From_: access-list-return-965-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 08:17:52 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Vocoder, vocoder, vocoder. Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:23:57 +0200 X-Priority: 3 Please could someone outline any hidden pitfalls or any awesome tips/tricks that I can apply using the Vocoder on the VIRUS? I am about to devulged myself into using the Vocoder. I would also like to know how it compares to other vocoders in the market. What would be the best way of using the vocoder? What is the best routing (internal and external) for the vocoder? (Sorry about the change of subject:) ******************************************** - Aubrey Kloppers - systems@biblesociety.co.za - Cape Town, South Africa - tel (+27-21-) 421-2040 (+2.00 GMT) - fax (+27-21-) 419-4846 *********************************************X-From_: access-list-return-962-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 05:37:12 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:40:27 -0800 From: ABLam X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Unsubscribe me pleaz? SORRY, i've been trying to unsubscribe forever, and it never works... so who ever runs this, please get me off the mailing list, thanx! =)X-From_: access-list-return-966-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 10:40:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: Chicken Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:33:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 >"Why did you buy a Virus then if your 8080 could make all the same sounds?" The operative word is 'could'. I think it is a case of, if you want to you would, but... >I really do want to hear how it is you manage to get your 8080 to imitate the virus, I want to hear how you program, Can I send a MP3 attatchment? >I want to hear you say "well >I got them both because..." I want to hear you say "well, if you use a band-pass filter on the 8080 you can mimic some settings of the Virus' dual filters..." You know, stuff like that. I actually got the JP8080 because the guy distributing the ACCESS/WALDORF products in my country acts like a bit of a bird brain, and I never could get a VIRUS in my hands to 'try'. (You know, small-town mentality!). I did however get my JP8080 out of a catalogue without ever hearing it. I also got the JP8080 about 6 months before it was released to the general public, which (at about 50% it's street price) was a very big plus in my studio. ALSO since it was the only equipment that emulated any kind of 'ANALOGUE' - type synth. >So please go into more detail about the relationship of your two synths. I'll end my letter with a smiley face. Well, it is like any large sound production. If you have ONE major piece of equipment in your studio and you OVER use the sound within your music, you WILL after about 3-4 songs find that to your own ears that everything starts to sound the same, well this is my relationship with the JP8080. BECAUSE it is treated within my studio (as the VIRUS-b is) as a single generating sound-source, what you hear within my music is not an overwelming presents of JP8080, but rather a 'wash' of sound-generation by multiple synths. I mainly use the JP8080 as a bit of a work-horse. It is great for the typical 303-line type sounds, (I use a PULSE for my bass-lines) it also have a very strong ARPEGGIATOR with very, very-solid midi-sync'ing capabilities. ALL the 'delay' and FX settings is DIRECTLY sync'ed via midi, which makes it great as a perf. type synth. Other synths/generators I use is an (And don't diss me:) A3000 sampler, a MU100r (for any druming/precussion and fills) and a CS1x (Altough, I find myself using the CS1x as a KeybController) > >By the way, that was a good joke...&;^)-~ > >MohoX-From_: access-list-return-967-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 11:22:40 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: systems@biblesociety.co.za (Aubrey Kloppers) To: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me pleaz? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:22:44 +0200 X-Priority: 3 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 06:44 am Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me pleaz? >hey, > ><< SORRY, i've been trying to unsubscribe forever, and it never works... so >who ever runs this, please get me off the mailing list, thanx! =) >> > >FAT chance buddy, ahaha! mhahaha-a-a-a - I bet that is why they call it the VIRUSLIST!!!X-From_: access-list-return-968-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 14:38:08 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:42:53 -0800 (PST) From: Norsez Orankijanan Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me pleaz? To: access-list@teklab.com I subscribed to this list since I was just interested in the Virus. But I could never unsubscribed either. So I ended up buying the synth so I didn't have to unsubscribe. norsez P.S. Try writing to Jay . Perhaps he could help. --- ABLam wrote: >SORRY, i've been trying to unsubscribe forever, and it never works... so >who ever runs this, please get me off the mailing list, thanx! =) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.comX-From_: access-list-return-969-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 17:04:45 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jh@mail.tsi-gmbh.de Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:01:01 +0100 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Joerg Huettner Subject: Re: NAMM Get together -- who's coming to LA? At 21:33 22.01.00 -0800, you wrote: >Well, NAMM is just a few short weeks away, and I thought I'd try and at least organize in advance a bit of a get together for those that are [...] >you want to have looked into further, let me know and I'll start taking notes. >j. Hi Jay, I'm definitively at the NAMM show but I can't tell you when I have time for a talk, because I'm at the Waldorf/Access-booth most of the time. Maybe you find the time to visit us there. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner --------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Huettner TSi GmbH Product Support Neustr. 9-12 jh@tsi-gmbh.de D-53498 Waldorf http://www.tsi-gmbh.de Hotline #: +49-(0)2636-9764-64 http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de Fax #: +49-(0)2636-9764-99 ---------------------------------------------------------------X-From_: access-list-return-970-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 19:33:23 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: zs@yahoo-inc.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:37:56 -0800 From: Zack Steinkamp X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Vocoder, vocoder, vocoder. >What would be the best way of using the vocoder? with an open mind... >What is the best routing (internal and external) for the vocoder? not much routing ... you have it listen to the one or both of the external inputs, unless you want to use an internal sound to modulate the vocoder (then you would use the AUX busses). I've had neat results running two of my sampler's outputs into the Virus inputs and using the vocoder on drumloops, vocal samples, sounds I've recorded, etc, etc, etc. Just turn all the knobs to see what they do ... you'll figure it out. -zs (ps ... use the LFOs to modulate the vocoder parameters too -- that's neat)X-From_: access-list-return-971-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Mon Jan 24 21:49:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com X-Sender: jay@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:51:33 -0800 To: access-list@teklab.com From: Jay Vaughan Subject: Re: NAMM Get together -- who's coming to LA? At 05:01 PM 01/24/2000 +0100, you wrote: Hi Jay, I'm definitively at the NAMM show but I can't tell you when I have time for a talk, because I'm at the Waldorf/Access-booth most of the time. Maybe you find the time to visit us there. Best Wishes, Joerg Huettner Hi Joerg, For sure I'll be visiting the Access/Waldorf booth this year - I'll keep an eye out for you. Is Christoph coming too - we had a coffee last year, might be nice to have another one this year too! :) j. -- Jay Vaughan | jay@teklab.com TekLab | http://www.teklab.com {UsePGP:[YES] ICQ:[454804] IRC:[EFNet:#teklab/Torpor]} ** A3k Sample Library: http://www.samplelibrary.net/ ** TekLab SpyCam : http://lab1.teklab.com/~jay/spycam.html X-From_: access-list-return-972-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Tue Jan 25 07:51:18 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:56:10 -0800 Subject: OS3 bug? X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,10-18 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: noteit@juno.com Greetings fellow Infecties, Noticed something strange this evening- When using a patch that has osc. 1 and/or osc. 2 programmed as a sine, triangle (or pulse wave) I can't switch it to the other wave forms. The display indicates it is changing but there is no audible difference. Now, if the patch has osc. 1 and 2 osc. set to one of the "other" wave forms I am able to activate any of the wave forms (including the sine, triangle or pulse wave). Any ideas? Thanks, Mike * NoteIt's World of MIDI * A place for Six-Trak, Prophet 600 and FZ users E-Mail: NoteIt@Juno.com * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2163 * ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.X-From_: access-list-return-974-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 00:37:56 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:47:03 -0500 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net To: access Subject: [Fwd: d&b/experimental/trancey/-2500] luxx wrote: >o.k. some people had some problem with the address i gave them last email i found out that it is not a anonymous ftp you must use a ftp client program..i have one for mac if someone needs it.. here is the address again. >i do remixes..some of my biggest influences arethe optical/ed rush gang, t-power,aphex twin,autechre,progressive trance and goa movement including richard dekkard,sasha, platipus label, cant forget panacea, l.s.g. a.k.a. oliver lieb,and last but not least weird and science fiction movies >please give me feedback on the mixes > >> >>Host: herbivor.ubikorp.com >>User: luxxguest >>Pass: woodenboxes >> >> >> >> Received: from [209.43.20.102] by grucom2.gru.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/4c.aeaq) with ESMTP id luxx for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:39:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 11734 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2000 21:38:52 -0000 Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (209.43.20.203) by iquest2.iquest.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2000 21:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27038 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2000 21:36:55 -0000 Received: from liststar.sweetwater.com (206.246.173.14) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2000 21:36:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:41:01 -0500 Message-Id: <388F699B.DBE3E068@gru.net> From: luxx Subject: d&b/experimental/trancey/-2500 To: "KurzList@ListStar.Sweetwater.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: Bulk X-List-Software: ListSTAR v2.0 by StarNine Technologies, a Quarterdeck Company Errors-To: "KurzList" Sender: "KurzList" List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Help: X-Archive-URL: http://www.hyperindex.com/k2/k_arc.htm X-Mail-Help-URL: http://www.hyperindex.com/k2/k_mail.htm o.k. some people had some problem with the address i gave them last email i found out that it is not a anonymous ftp you must use a ftp client program..i have one for mac if someone needs it.. here is the address again. i do remixes.. please give me feedback on the mixes > >Host: herbivor.ubikorp.com >User: luxxguest >Pass: woodenboxes > > > X-From_: access-list-return-975-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 07:45:28 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Michael Egar" To: Subject: soundiver transmit? Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:56:11 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Hi, I'm trying to use the soundiver adaptation with the virus and everything works OK except for transmiting patches to the virus. I can receive the banks, move the pathces around etc. but none of the buffers seem to accept the patches that I transmit to them. "Sysex" appears on the virus screen but nothing happens. I've tried switching the device id from omni to match the id in soundiver but it still doesn't do anything. Does anyone have any ideas? I'd love to get this going so I could organise myself a bit better. Thanks, Mike X-From_: access-list-return-976-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 10:57:31 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 05:02:22 -0500 From: remi tanguay X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: soundiver transmit? Hi Michael, i cant help about the adaption for the virus cause i dont have the patch yet :) but i wanted to know where can i get this "patch" for Soundiver? (i have a registered version) thanks alot, Remi Haggans Michael Egar wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use the soundiver adaptation with the virus and everything works OK except for transmiting patches to the virus. I can receive the banks, move the pathces around etc. but none of the buffers seem to accept the patches that I transmit to them. "Sysex" appears on the virus screen but nothing happens. I've tried switching the device id from omni to match the id in soundiver but it still doesn't do anything. Does anyone have any ideas? I'd love to get this going so I could organise myself a bit better.Ê Thanks, Mike X-From_: access-list-return-977-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 11:34:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: steven.de.mesmaker@atlascopco.com To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Access Matrix controller Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:38:54 +0100 Can somebody tell me what a good price for a second hand Access Matrix controller would be like ? And/or what's the price for a new one ? Thanks, StevenX-From_: access-list-return-978-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 11:36:38 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 05:39:26 -0500 From: remi tanguay X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: soundiver transmit? haahhaha... sorry it was a LAME question from me hehehe just got the patch on the emagic web site.... sorry for the stupid question ;) remi tanguay wrote: Hi Michael, i cant help about the adaption for the virus cause i dont have the patch yet :) but i wanted to know where can i get this "patch" for Soundiver? (i have a registered version) thanks alot, Remi Haggans Michael Egar wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use the soundiver adaptation with the virus and everything works OK except for transmiting patches to the virus. I can receive the banks, move the pathces around etc. but none of the buffers seem to accept the patches that I transmit to them. "Sysex" appears on the virus screen but nothing happens. I've tried switching the device id from omni to match the id in soundiver but it still doesn't do anything. Does anyone have any ideas? I'd love to get this going so I could organise myself a bit better.Ê Thanks, Mike X-From_: access-list-return-979-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 13:30:43 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Christophe VERDIN" To: Subject: Virus retailers Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:34:22 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Do anybody of you, german people, know a good shop where to buy a Virus Kb in Frankfurt or near there ? Could you tell me the price too ? Many thanks, Christophe (Paris) X-From_: access-list-return-980-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 18:56:15 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:01:55 +0100 From: Michael Lauer Reply-To: Michael Lauer To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: Virus retailers >Do anybody of you, german people, know a good shop where to buy a Virus Kb in Frankfurt or near there ? Musik-Schmidt. >Could you tell me the price too ? 2699.- >Many thanks, Bitte, gerne :-) Mickey / Frankfurt am Main -- Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de --------------------------------------------------------- How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?X-From_: access-list-return-981-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Thu Jan 27 23:22:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:11:37 +0100 From: Jasper de Jong X-Accept-Language: nl To: List: Access Subject: os3 soundz Hi! I'm flippin through the new soundset made for OS3.0 and I have to say: this is the ultimate release for exam-stress...:) Some _fantastic_ sounds! Esp.: Cyberpop oby-pad gunggung movement the fog (should've called this Dr Who christophe!) lfosstz dmodepad timpotro (one of the best virus soundz ever Howard!!!) kalimbam qt-soft thanks guys! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298X-From_: access-list-return-982-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 28 00:28:03 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Gabe" To: Subject: Urgent! possible BUG In OS3!! Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:33:04 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Hi, I have found the following bug in OS3: if I turn KnobDispl to "off," it is impossible to turn it back on, it stays permanently stuck to "off." Even if I change knobdispl to "on," "short," or "long," the Virus still behaves as if Knob Display mode is set to "off." Also, if I set knobdispl to anything other than "off," say, for example, I set it to "long," as soon as I return to that page on the ctrl menu, it shows that it is set at "off" again. The only way to get the parameter unstuck is to reburn the OS, and then as soon as I change the knobdispl mode it becomes stuck again. The problem occurs with OS3 versions "a" and "b." Has anyone else noticed this problem? I can't imagine this is a hardware problem since everything else works fine on my virus and the knobdispl only becomes stuck "off" after I set it to "off." -GabeX-From_: access-list-return-984-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 28 07:02:29 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Gabe" To: Subject: Re: Urgent! possible BUG In OS3!! Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:07:41 -0500 X-Priority: 3 Christoph wrote: >It's a software bug, but I hope it's not urgent :-) It just changes the display of parameters. We'll fix it for the next update. >No need to reburn the OS, simply do a Reset, as described in the Addendum Manual (switch on the Virus while holding the LFO 1 SHAPE button). This kind of support is why Access rocks. Man o man, I love this company!! PS: Please please please include a parametric eq in the effects section!!!!X-From_: access-list-return-985-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 28 08:54:54 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:09:01 -0800 Subject: Bug in 3.0? X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-6,8-16 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: noteit@juno.com Hi Christoph, When using a patch that has osc. 1 and/or osc. 2 programmed as a sine, triangle (or pulse wave) I can't switch it to the other wave forms. The display indicates it is changing but there is no audible difference. Now, if the patch has osc. 1 and 2 osc. set to one of the "other" wave forms I am able to activate any of the wave forms (including the sine, triangle or pulse wave. And am able to hear quite a difference). Any ideas? Thanks, Mike * NoteIt's World of MIDI * A place for Six-Trak, Prophet 600 and FZ users E-Mail: NoteIt@Juno.com * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2163 * ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.X-From_: access-list-return-987-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 28 20:01:56 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "Rob Papen" To: Subject: update on Virus page Rob Papen Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:05:24 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi List, I updated my Virus page with: - MP3 song with the very short demo-song made with the new Virus Bank B sounds. - Multie dump that combines the new Virus b sounds multies with the Signature Set multies. www.robpapen.com best regards, Rob Papen Ps. New Waldorf Pulse SoundSet is out! ___________________________________ ROB PAPEN SOUND-DESIGN & MUSIC Homepage: www.robpapen.com E-mail: rob@robpapen.com What is new our coming out soon: - EMU EOS/Ultra CD-ROM - PROTEUS-2000 Techno Synth 32MB ROM (out) - Waldorf Pulse 2000 Sound Set (HOT) - Access Virus Signature Set Rob Papen (see homepage) - Reaction/comments to RP sounds: www.robpapen.com/guestbook.htm ___________________________________ Tel: 00-31 475410188 Fax: 00-31 475410089 ___________________________________X-From_: access-list-return-988-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 28 20:14:21 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com To: access-list@teklab.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:14:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Bug in 3.0? X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-6,13-14,19-20,32-70 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: noteit@juno.com Good morning Christoph, >Is it a special patch you are working on? Possibly the Osc Shape is (invisibly) modulated so that you don't hear the waves but PWM. >Try the INIT sound. Does it work there? Thank you for the quick response. It was user error! Selecting the waveforms works fine with the knobs. I was using the buttons- when I pulled-up OSC1 for example, and went through wave 04-64 I didn't hear any change because SHAPE was not set to wave. If memory serves me correctly, on the A I didn't have to set the SHAPE to wave (when using the buttons). When I hit EDIT, I could scroll through the waves and hear waves immediately. Thanks again for both the A and B. And for all those A owners that complained on the list about OS3 not running on their A I appoligize. I sold my A and purchased the B for a couple of hundred more- if there was a "X" upgrade for the A I am sure 99% of them would have upgraded without thinking about spending $200-300 for the "X". Since you are always asking about possible new features for the Virus here is a wild one- how about a totally different OS that turns the Virus into an effects processor? The additional effects for the B are amazing, but I find myself not using using the ADSRs for example- maybe with the new "FX OS" you could use these knobs for other functions? For example, you could have a combo-effect that used a tap-delay and a phasor- each ADSR could be used to control volume/balance, feedback, color and rate (this is just off the top of my head, I'm sure I could come up with many examples). It would also be nice that if you could determine the order of the effects too. You could make PDF overlays avaliable from the site (or ZIP them when you download the new OS). Please keep those amazing filters though ;) Thanks. Keep up the great work! Best wishes, Mike >>Hi Christoph, >> >>When using a patch that has osc. 1 and/or osc. 2 programmed as a >sine, >>triangle (or pulse wave) I can't switch it to the other wave >forms. The >>display indicates it is changing but there is no audible >difference. >>Now, if the patch has osc. 1 and 2 osc. set to one of the "other" >wave >>forms I am able to activate any of the wave forms (including the >sine, >>triangle or pulse wave. And am able to hear quite a difference). >Any >>ideas? > >Is it a special patch you are working on? Possibly the Osc Shape is (invisibly) modulated so that you don't hear the >waves but PWM. >Try the INIT sound. Does it work there? > >-Christoph * NoteIt's World of MIDI * A place for Six-Trak, Prophet 600 and FZ users E-Mail: NoteIt@Juno.com * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2163 * ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.X-From_: access-list-return-989-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 28 23:16:05 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: hscarr@csi.com From: "Howard Scarr" To: Subject: Just testing! Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:22:09 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Hi List - can you read me at last? HowardX-From_: access-list-return-990-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Fri Jan 28 23:30:41 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Reply-To: "Rick Reyes" From: "Rick Reyes" To: Subject: Re: Just testing! Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:37:10 -0600 X-Priority: 3 Yes...X-From_: access-list-return-991-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 29 00:24:06 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Sender: hscarr@csi.com From: "Howard Scarr" To: "Access list" Subject: Virus a update? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:28:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 >>Anybody else noticed the LFO3 triangle sometimes turning into a saw... >It's a bug. It only appears when a sound was selected where LFO 2 Clock is not Off. Then it stays. We'll fix it for the next update. I guess you're all still busy with the b - but can we expect a bugfix in the near future? I don't really want to "downdate"...X-From_: access-list-return-992-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 29 14:30:37 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "chris mendoza" To: Subject: vocoder and OT: what drum mashine??? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:39:51 -0500 X-Priority: 3 ok... first of all... im a new virus user. let , me just say that im blown away by the synth and the support from access. mad props. second... im trying to use the vocoder, but i cant seem to get it rite..lets just say for the sake of argument that i want to make a kraftwerkian type of vocoder voice; mic in the inputs, synth modulating the voice... HOW? ive tried, but i cant do it. call me stupid... third... sorry for the OT question, but i figure that we are all gearheads and someone here gotta know the answer... i got this friend that i want to do some live stuff with. he is a WHIZ at the rebirth drum sections, but we need to get him a drummaschine to get him properly midified and phattened... he needs it to work as close as RB as possible, but ive heard (pardon the ignorance here) that the 909 wont do pattern writing and playback at the same time... what should we get for him? korgs ER-1?? jomox XBASE-09??? the real-deal 909???? he can afford all of these toys... or maybe just a nice compressor and sound card for his laptop???? any thought greatly appreciated!! sorry for the long post and thx! cX-From_: access-list-return-993-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sat Jan 29 17:51:50 2000 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:51:47 +0100 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: "d.vitrano" To: access-list@teklab.com Importance: Normal Subject: Possible bug in OS2.52 for VIRUS A I use my Virus in a midi setup and I use to sync it to my Atari' clock. After updating to version 2.52 from 2.51(where all worked well) the Virus lose the midi-clock e.g. tempo is set to 120bpm and Delay and arpeggiator work at 113bpm. I tried to re-update from factory-settings but the problem still remains. Please check it out.... I still love my A!! Peace -- TiscaliFreeNet, libero accesso ad Internet. http://www.tiscalinet.itX-From_: access-list-return-994-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 30 00:19:51 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com From: Dgerbs@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:24:00 EST Subject: OT: Home recording To: trinity@harmony-central.com, access-list@teklab.com Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice as to what is a good computer setup for recording??? G4, PC?? And what about Hard drive space, Megahertz, Ram etc... How much is needed to setup a good system for recording??? Basically, a 101 in PC digital recording. I think many of us could value from this!! thanks in advance, DanX-From_: access-list-return-995-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 30 03:18:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:28:52 -0500 From: luxx Reply-To: luxx@gru.net To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Home recording this seems like a very off topic subject teklab has a list exactly for this its called bar members...X-From_: access-list-return-996-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 30 11:59:42 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:11:50 +0100 From: joel X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Home recording rather like homestudio@topica.com imo. >this seems like a very off topic subject teklab has a list exactly for this its called bar members...X-From_: access-list-return-997-canine=muenster.de@teklab.com Sun Jan 30 12:00:44 2000 Mailing-List: contact access-list-help@teklab.com; run by ezmlm Reply-To: access-list@teklab.com Delivered-To: mailing list access-list@teklab.com Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:12:28 +0100 From: joel X-Accept-Language: en To: access-list@teklab.com Subject: Re: OT: Home recording or AudioMix@onelist.com ? >this seems like a very off topic subject teklab has a list exactly for this its called bar members...